1 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: Life Audio's Life gets hie, but moll forward by a days. 2 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 2: There's chapter is long. 3 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 3: I remember to turn the play. 4 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 4: Welcome back to the Real Deal Podcast with Abby Johnson 5 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 4: and Reagan Long, where we deliver the Real Deal Deal 6 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 4: completely unfiltered. Welcome everyone. It is Abby. I don't know 7 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 4: about how it is in Texas, but here in North 8 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 4: Carolina this morning, it is so gorgeous. It's going to 9 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 4: be eighty nine degrees in sunny today. 10 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 1: That is nice. 11 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 2: Let me say it, it's gonna be eighty. 12 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 4: Let me make most of the other states. 13 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 2: Tuning in just so a little bit jealous. 14 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 3: I just love it. 15 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:12,960 Speaker 1: The sun. The sun. 16 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,399 Speaker 4: Just Abby and I always talk about this. The sun 17 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 4: just makes me feel so good. It makes like it's 18 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 4: truly one of God's healing tools. 19 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. The other day, I was like, literally, 20 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 2: I looked like I don't know what I looked like. 21 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:31,479 Speaker 2: I looked like a weird person, but I was just 22 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 2: like I thought people were probably driving by, like what 23 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 2: is this woman doing? But I was just sitting out 24 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 2: on the driveway in a lawn chair with my head back, 25 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:46,279 Speaker 2: just letting the sun like hit my face. It felt 26 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 2: so good. I sent a picture to you. Yes, I 27 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 2: was like, I looked at me. 28 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 4: I used to do that when I was pregnant with 29 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 4: kJ I literally I had this like big old belly. 30 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: It looked like I was carrying triplets. 31 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 4: I would be like eating, holding like a bag of Cheetos, 32 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:08,519 Speaker 4: sitting at a lawn chair in the driveway, a baby 33 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 4: pull like a kiddie pool, putting my feet in it, 34 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 4: and I'm like, I'm so cousin eddie Ish and I 35 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 4: would care less like a kid. 36 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 2: Fulton was on his little crazy cart thing like just 37 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 2: doing circles and going crazy on it. I was just like, yes, 38 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 2: this is the best day ever. 39 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 3: Living it up. 40 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 5: Oh my god. 41 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 2: I love the sun. 42 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 3: I love the sun. 43 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 2: I just it was yat in the sun like every day. 44 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 2: I just love it. 45 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 3: I love it. Guys. 46 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 4: Before we started recording, Abby called me and again, and 47 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 4: I think most people are like this with their best friend. 48 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 4: It's like some days you can talk like four times 49 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 4: a day. There's some days you go four days without talking. 50 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 4: And I mean normally we text almost day, but when 51 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 4: Abbie's on the road, obviously it's you know, she's much 52 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 4: busier with her commitments and so like through the week, 53 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 4: I'm like randomly sending her reels and tiktoks and like 54 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 4: did you see this? 55 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 3: Did you see this? Yeah? 56 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 4: I was like, hey, let's get on, let's record a podcast. 57 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: And then I forget. 58 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 4: My best friend's like a world traveler, and I get these. 59 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 4: I'll be randomly in the carpool line or somewhere because 60 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 4: Abby and I have each other on Light three sixties, 61 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 4: so I randomly get a ding and it's like Abby 62 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 4: in Baltimore across the country or. 63 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 3: I know, so buddy, buddy, I know, I know. 64 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 2: I was like, like yan Has, I'll lose the raan 65 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 2: Has is now back home. They don't like you. 66 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 4: Actually, if you actually checked in with me a lot, 67 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 4: you'd be like that chick's back at Chick fil A. 68 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 4: She's a taco bell again, man, that's where all her 69 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 4: money goes. 70 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 2: I just get your I get your notifications every time 71 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 2: you like get home. It's like as a ride back 72 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 2: at home and I'm. 73 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 4: Like, oh good, this likeliday. You know, Like there's times 74 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 4: where Abby's like just waking up in the morning and 75 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 4: so she's at a hotel or whatever, and I'm like, dude, 76 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 4: like where are you? 77 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: And She'll be like. 78 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 4: Oh, I'm in like Wisconsin, and like her assistant will 79 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 4: be like in the background, no, Abby were in Michigan, Like, no, 80 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 4: we were already. 81 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know where I'm at. 82 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 3: I don't know. 83 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 2: I'm to roll over and like look at the phone 84 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 2: and look at the agress on the phone to be 85 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 2: like what time zone where we're staying? I'm not really sure. 86 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 2: I was walking through an airport the other day. 87 00:04:57,760 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 3: I literally looked at man and went. 88 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 2: Airport, Wait, where are we? 89 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. 90 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 1: It was so funny. 91 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 4: So have you literally, because I don't know this answer, 92 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 4: have you experienced some of these crazy like delays? Like 93 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 4: have you seen ice at the airports? 94 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 2: Okay? No, I have not yet. I expect I will 95 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 2: because I am flying to Lax on Monday and crying 96 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 2: out of Lax, so I expect. And because I'm going 97 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 2: on my like my favorite guy in the world, I'm 98 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,479 Speaker 2: going on his show and I'm doing it in person. 99 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 3: Shut up? Are you okay? I knew you were doing it, 100 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 3: did you, Jackie Peterson? 101 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 2: Yes, So I'm flying there on Monday and you're filming 102 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 2: on Tuesday morning, and so I'm just so flipping excited 103 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 2: to be opub and so literally thought it was like 104 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 2: a scam. When my just send it to me, I 105 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 2: was like, wait, I'm like, is this like a scam invitation? 106 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 2: She's like, dude, it's like real, It's like from the 107 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 2: bo's heir. And I'm like, oh my gosh. 108 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 4: I remember it was like a year ago or maybe 109 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 4: eighteen months ago, and you sent me like a reel 110 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 4: of his and you were like, I just love this guy. 111 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 4: He is so good and like and then when you 112 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 4: text me about it, you're just so pumped at I'm like, oh, 113 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 4: I love my gosh. 114 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my gosh, this is so exciting. Like 115 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 2: I don't get excited about being. 116 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 4: Met like big actors, big like big big, like big 117 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 4: time people, And she's like, oh, hey, how are you. Meanwhile, 118 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 4: they're drooling over Abby. So it's a very rare Abby 119 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 4: gets excited over someone. 120 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 2: She is so excited for this, so pumped to be 121 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 2: on Jesse Peterson's show. I just love him and like 122 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 2: it's not even that like I always agree with him 123 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 2: or anything like that, but I just have such admiration 124 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:03,479 Speaker 2: for people who are willing to put their opinions out there, 125 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 2: just so boldly, you know, and I'm justogically apologetically just 126 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 2: they just put their views out there. And he has 127 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 2: such an incredible life experience, you know, and so he 128 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 2: has just a really amazing perspective. And sometimes the things 129 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 2: that he says, like immediately is like it's it's kind 130 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 2: of like an affront to what we have been trained 131 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 2: to believe in our culture. And so sometimes I'm like, 132 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 2: like when I. 133 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 4: What I hear him saying, you should be used to that, 134 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 4: considering I'm your best friend. 135 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 6: I like, sometimes I like he said something, I'm like, 136 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 6: I don't know, Like I don't know. Then like I 137 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 6: think about it, and it really I'm like, uh like 138 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 6: that it is an interesting perspective, like, and it causes 139 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 6: me to really like think about and like sometimes rethink 140 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 6: about like the way that we have been to make 141 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 6: decisions in this country and the things that we incentivize 142 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 6: in this country and things like that. 143 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 2: And so but I just love how bold he is. 144 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 2: And two boldies on a polar good pump. So anyway, 145 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 2: so I fly to LA on Monday and then I 146 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 2: fly out on Tuesday, and so I feel like I'm 147 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 2: going to see, Yeah, I'm sure how bad it is 148 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 2: in LA and then I have to fly to New York, 149 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 2: and so New York will be probably interesting. Yeah, but 150 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 2: I have I'm going to be gone for ten days, 151 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 2: so I have seven events and ten days. So oh 152 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 2: and I have to fly up to Canada too, So 153 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 2: but Canada should be fine. But I know that Trump 154 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 2: was signing like an executive order for TSA for their 155 00:08:56,640 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 2: pay to be reinstated. But I actually talked a TSA agent, 156 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:03,319 Speaker 2: like a group of agents when I was leaving out 157 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 2: of Austin, and you know, I just asked them. I 158 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 2: was like, you know, how, like how are you guys doing, Like, 159 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 2: first of all, thank you for being here, for working 160 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 2: even though you're not getting paid. And I was like, 161 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 2: you know, I was like, are you guys going to 162 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 2: get like back paid for this? Like are you guys 163 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 2: going to eventually get paid? And they were like, oh yeah, yeah, 164 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 2: like we'll get paid. And this one really sweet woman, 165 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 2: she was one of the lead officers, and she said, 166 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 2: you know, she said, it's just really hard, like nobody 167 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 2: tells you when you sign up to be a TSA 168 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 2: officer that this could happen, like if the government, you know, 169 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 2: if they can't come to some sort of you know, 170 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 2: budgetary reconciliation, like we may not get paid, Like that's 171 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 2: not in the training, right, Like nobody tells you that. 172 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 2: And she said, you know a lot of people that 173 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 2: work here are single parents. They're living paycheck to paycheck, 174 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 2: like they have to have a job. And she was like, 175 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,439 Speaker 2: so there's like no shade thrown at them for being 176 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:05,199 Speaker 2: like I have to get out of here, like I 177 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 2: have to get another job. And so she's like it's 178 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 2: very understandable, like nobody's mad at anybody, you know, nobody here, 179 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 2: Like none of us are mad in our friends. 180 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: You're just trying to live. You're just trying to survive. 181 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 2: He was like, I'm fortunate because I'm married and I 182 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 2: have a husband who makes you know, an income. So 183 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 2: she was like, we can survive right now off of 184 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 2: his income, right, But yeah, she did say like she 185 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 2: was like, yeah, we are going to get you know, 186 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 2: back paced. So that that made me feel good, like 187 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 2: at least or not just right for nothing, you know, 188 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 2: right right, But yeah, I haven't. 189 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 4: I've seen different reports across the US like it's hit 190 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 4: or miss like some are. It's like, hey, it wasn't 191 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 4: like that wasn't what I expected, and then others there's 192 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 4: just photographs where the lines are just it's just it's 193 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 4: just it's crazy. 194 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 3: I know. 195 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 2: Well, I'm about to fly literally all over the United States, 196 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 2: so we will have a full report report. Yeah, like 197 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 2: I'm I'm gonna be everywhere, Like I'm going to Washington State, 198 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:22,439 Speaker 2: Saint Louis, New York, Ontario, Maine, Ohio, DC, California, Monty. Listen, 199 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 2: like okay, So I mean, like, if you want to 200 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 2: know the truth, we'll swing back to Abby in like 201 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 2: a week or two. Like you get in here, I'll 202 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 2: let you know on the podcast, like what it was. 203 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 4: Really I'm going to have to actually actually I'm like 204 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 4: interested in this, and I think many people will be. 205 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 4: And so who is it aw traveling with you? 206 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 2: Yeah for all those okay, well not for all of them, 207 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:46,559 Speaker 2: but well not for all of them. Well Christine is 208 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 2: traveling with me this week. 209 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 4: Oh okay, Well I need to like text both of 210 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 4: them to be like, listen, I want you to get 211 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 4: a little video footage with Abby and lines in each report, 212 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 4: document it and send it to me and we'll end 213 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 4: it up. 214 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 1: Because literally it. 215 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 4: It would be kind of cool to see all these 216 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 4: different parts and how and how it looks. 217 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 2: I know, Yeah, this week I'm going to Lax and 218 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 2: then Oklahoma, so I know Oklahoma. Yeah, gosh crazy. So 219 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 2: I'm speaking at Oklahoma State. So I'm really excited. So yeah, 220 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 2: two university events this week that went so great. And 221 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 2: then yeah, and then I have another one for Make 222 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 2: Abortion Murder Again campaign or Mama campaign. So or very excited. 223 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 1: But I know, it's really cool. 224 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 4: I like, you know, some of some of the places 225 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 4: that I've gotten to be with you, Whereas I'm just 226 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 4: the best friend, Like I just get to support you 227 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 4: and watch you and be there. It's really cool to 228 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 4: see you because of course, like I see Abby as 229 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 4: a mom. I see her she's like another mom to 230 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 4: my kids, and I'd be so good with kids, little 231 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 4: babies and toddlers and tweens and teens. But like, you 232 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 4: really do have such a cool way with college students, 233 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 4: and I've gotten to witness that a few times, and 234 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 4: it's like you're so good at being able to make 235 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 4: them comfortable and getting to their level. And so I 236 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 4: just know, just the small handful of interactions I've seen you, 237 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 4: it's like it's just so good. 238 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 2: It's just because I love them. I love them. 239 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're good, You're great. 240 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 2: I mean even if they even if they like oppose 241 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 2: what I'm saying, like, I still love talking to them. 242 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's like I love it. I'm like really 243 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:43,319 Speaker 4: pumped for this. 244 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. 245 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 2: So I'm really excited. And it's very it's like very 246 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 2: common for someone, especially if I'm tabling on campus, like 247 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:56,559 Speaker 2: for them to come in like real hot, you know, right, 248 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:58,199 Speaker 2: and to come and like really angry. 249 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 4: But I'm just but because she's so cool and calm, 250 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 4: it unsteadies them like when you like you were so 251 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 4: but again, like again, I'm high anxiety. Abby's just weirdly 252 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 4: calm and collected and like I remember before an event 253 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 4: you had here at Davidson, like there's all these kids 254 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 4: outside and they're drying on sidewalks everything like against Abby 255 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 4: and for abortion and all this stuff. And Abby's just 256 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 4: literally walking smoothly like like the like like a little 257 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 4: queen coming through, just calm and collected and smiling and 258 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 4: literally because you really can't shake Abby. It unsettles the 259 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 4: people a little bit. They're like hmm, you. 260 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 2: Know, And I was like, I hope you guys come 261 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 2: into the talk. 262 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, let's get some doughnuts after you went some Chacoal. 263 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. 264 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 2: Well, it's just like a like, I think there's different 265 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 2: ways of doing like campus outreach, and I think there's 266 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 2: a way to do it where you're on a microphone 267 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 2: and you're having people come up to a mic and 268 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 2: you're doing this like big kind of back and forth, 269 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 2: you know, and and of course, like you know, liberal 270 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 2: kids are going to come up to the mic and 271 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 2: and then you kind of feel like you need to 272 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:22,359 Speaker 2: own them at the mic or make them feel foolish. 273 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 2: And then that exists on social media forever, and yeah, 274 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 2: because it's good for hits. 275 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: It's good for click yeah. 276 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 2: Right, good for clicks and stuff, and I you know, 277 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 2: could probably monetize on that and do well. But I 278 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 2: feel like that's it's just not like who I am. Like, 279 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 2: that's just not my way. And I'm not like criticizing that. 280 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 2: I'm just saying, like my job is to is to 281 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 2: actually like bring them to a place of conversion and 282 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 2: like to bring them to Christ, like I want them 283 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 2: to see like the heart of Christ. And so I 284 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 2: just don't feel like owning these kids is just the 285 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 2: right way. 286 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 3: Way. 287 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 4: Doing them down first is not the way or for 288 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 4: breaking them down, for ridicule or I just don't that's just. 289 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 2: Not the way I go about it. So anyway, it's 290 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 2: just I'm excited. It's going to be fun. But yeah, anyway, Okay, 291 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 2: what we want to talk about on the podcast today 292 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 2: though it's super heavy, terrible, terrible situation that took place 293 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 2: in Spain actually yesterday, So today is a twenty seventh, 294 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 2: So this happened yesterday on the twenty sticks in Spain. 295 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 2: This sweet young girl, Noelia Castillo, at the age of 296 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 2: twenty four, had asked for to be euthanized. This young 297 00:16:56,040 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 2: girl has had psychological problems since she was thirteen years old. 298 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 2: She has been in and out of facilities since she 299 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 2: was thirteen. While inside a facility, she was gang raped, 300 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 2: just horrible, horrible, and after that she you know, was 301 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 2: having a really hard time of course, coping with that trauma. 302 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 2: She attempted suicide by jumping out of a five story building. 303 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 2: Her father saw it happen, and she ended up surviving, 304 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 2: but she was paralyzed from the waist down. Oh and 305 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:48,919 Speaker 2: so when she was twenty four, she asked a hospital 306 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 2: to you know, help euthanize her and her father contested it. 307 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 2: I mean he was aptsolutely like no way, right, you know, 308 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 2: her mind is she's just too traumatized to even you know, 309 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 2: have you know, to make this kind of consent, you know, 310 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 2: to give consent. She's like not in her right mind. 311 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:22,919 Speaker 2: You know, he really was. I mean, he did everything 312 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 2: he could to save his daughter. Her best friend came 313 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 2: yesterday to try to talk to her. The hospital would 314 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 2: not let her best friend and to see her because 315 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:38,640 Speaker 2: she was going to try to talk her out of it. Right, 316 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 2: The hospital refused entrance to the best friend, which I like, 317 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 2: I can't even imagine, like I would share it probably 318 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:50,880 Speaker 2: like John Q Public like with guns and be like. 319 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 3: Got on my line. 320 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and I would expect you, yeah, for sure. 321 00:18:55,480 --> 00:19:02,360 Speaker 4: I mean it's just crazy. So anyway, it's the sadest thing, Yeah, 322 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 4: it is. I mean it's just her photo. Her photo alone. 323 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 1: You see this beautiful innocence. You see pain, but you. 324 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 4: See such like you see this beautiful girl who was suffered, 325 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 4: who's tired, but yet there's this like there's this meekness 326 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 4: and there's almost this holiness. 327 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:30,880 Speaker 2: Yeah right right, that's what I saw too, right, Yeah, 328 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 2: I know that's what I saw too, and it's just 329 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 2: really really sad. So then her attorney, Noeli Is attorney 330 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 2: actually yesterday, came out and said that the hospital was 331 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 2: actually putting pressure on her to go through with the euthanasia, okay, 332 00:19:56,000 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 2: because the hospital was going to be receiving eight million 333 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 2: dollars from her organ. 334 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: Yes, oh my goodness. 335 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 4: And that rate there, Abbey, is is the red flag 336 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 4: that everybody needs to know what this is really about. 337 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:24,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, And they had already begun prepping her body for 338 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 2: organ transplant. So they had already been like giving her 339 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 2: drugs and stuff I guess to prep her body. And 340 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 2: the attorney like showed the receives for how much the 341 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 2: hospital was going to be receiving per organ, and it 342 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 2: totaled eight million dollars. And so the attorney was like 343 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:52,159 Speaker 2: speaking out against and this is her attorney, this is 344 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 2: Noeli's attorney speaking out against this, saying this was wrong, 345 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 2: like it didn't even give her the opportunity to her 346 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 2: mind because it was such a conflict of interest because 347 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:08,400 Speaker 2: the hospital had a financial interest in killing herself. 348 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: Right. 349 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 4: So sad well, well, sadly, we see that, we see 350 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,439 Speaker 4: that with everything, we even looking back and I'm not 351 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 4: going to go off on this tangent, but I mean, 352 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 4: one of the first things that comes to my mind, 353 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 4: Abby is the and you can so many doctors and 354 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 4: nurses and medical staff I have come forward saying the 355 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:35,479 Speaker 4: amount of money that was made during COVID and. 356 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 2: Those who are put on a say with like vaccines 357 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 2: every vacan incentives. And I can speak to that like personally, 358 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 2: because we at Planned Parenthood provided the guard to cell vaccine, 359 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 2: the HPV vaccine, yes, and we got paid one hundred 360 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 2: and fifty dollars for every vaccine that we gave someone, 361 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 2: and that is a three found vaccine, right, and so 362 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 2: we got paid So Merk not only did they pay 363 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 2: for the vaccine, but then we got one hundred dollars 364 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 2: and sent one hundred and fifty dollars incentive for every 365 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 2: vaccine that we jabbed somebody with. So these that's that 366 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 2: is a genuine conflict of interest. You're not really looking 367 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 2: out for the patient, You're looking out for your own 368 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 2: clinic revenue. And so I mean, it's crazy and it's 369 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 2: no wonder that they didn't even let her best friend 370 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 2: come in because the best friend was like, you don't 371 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 2: need to do this, I don't want you to do this, 372 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:43,159 Speaker 2: and yeah it's and they're like, no, no, no, no, no 373 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 2: no no, don't don't let anybody come in that may 374 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 2: talk her out of it. And so this poor girl 375 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:52,439 Speaker 2: died alone, which is what she wanted. She wanted to 376 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 2: die alone. She said she wanted to have a little 377 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 2: makeup on her face. She wanted to die in a 378 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 2: pretty dress. She did not want anyone in her room 379 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,920 Speaker 2: when she died. She had people come in and say 380 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 2: goodbye to her. She wouldn't allow her father to come 381 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 2: in because he had fought so hard to save her life, 382 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 2: and so she was angry with him. But her mother, 383 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 2: even though her mother was against what she was doing, 384 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 2: her mother in the end was like, well, this is 385 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 2: what she wants to do. I'll be there to support her. 386 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,679 Speaker 2: So I can't even imagine as a mother going to 387 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 2: say goodbye to my daughter for the last time, knowing 388 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 2: she's alive, and when I walk out, she's going to 389 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 2: be dead by choice, right. And then she died and 390 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 2: the hospital killed she didn't I, the hospital killed her, 391 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 2: the state killed her. And she had four pictures with 392 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 2: her in the bed And it's just the saddest thing 393 00:23:55,920 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 2: that this is state sanctioned murder, and like, here's my thing. 394 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 2: If somebody wants to kill themselves, I hate that, right, 395 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:12,159 Speaker 2: But if you want to kill yourself, all right, like okay, 396 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 2: I mean you have the ability you can do that, 397 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 2: but have a really hard time when the state gets involved. 398 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 2: And now you're getting medical providers involved. Now you're getting 399 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 2: nurses involved, Now you're getting other staff involved. Now you 400 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 2: are opening up your suicide and the trauma of suicide 401 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 2: onto other people that are medical workers. 402 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 3: Right. Yeah. 403 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 2: I don't think any medical assistants or you know, nurses 404 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 2: or wherever they go to work in the hospital thinking 405 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 2: oh good, I wanted to do this, this is what 406 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:59,360 Speaker 2: I wanted to do. I wanted to help people, physicians 407 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 2: assistants to side, right. But now they've involved all these 408 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 2: other people, which I mean, it is just crazy to 409 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 2: me that now they're dragging everyone in and the state's 410 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 2: allowing it. So, I mean, I know that's kind of 411 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 2: like a weird take, but I just think, like. 412 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 4: It's it's not it's not a weird take at all, 413 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 4: because here's here's the thing. Just as they have done 414 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 4: with abortion and you know, murdering a child in the 415 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 4: womb and dismembering a child and calling that reproductive freedom 416 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 4: and calling that love. And you know, you have people 417 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 4: like Anne Hathaway saying that's that's it's a grace. It's 418 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:43,160 Speaker 4: a grace to be able, it's mercy to do that. 419 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:48,360 Speaker 4: I've literally Satan, who is the prince of this world, 420 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:55,879 Speaker 4: has truly brainwashed and conditioned and groomed us to think 421 00:25:56,040 --> 00:26:00,439 Speaker 4: such evil and horror is normal and abby. This is 422 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:04,919 Speaker 4: exactly what is going to happen with this. It is 423 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 4: going to become normalized. It's going to become again. It's 424 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 4: a freedom. It show way out you don't have to 425 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 4: suffer anymore. 426 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 1: Well, I can't. 427 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 2: Believe, honestly, how many conservatives think this already, Like like 428 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 2: I look on people's pages that are I mean even 429 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 2: my own page like where I post something about it, 430 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 2: and there are literally conservatives on my page and on 431 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,920 Speaker 2: other people's pages that are like, well, I mean, she's 432 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 2: an adult, so if she wanted to do it, I mean, 433 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 2: that's up to her. I'm like, she's twenty five, Like 434 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 2: I just it's not what we need to be doing 435 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 2: to people who have been traumatized. You don't sure trauma 436 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 2: with suicide. 437 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:55,440 Speaker 4: I don't and I don't think. Okay, you and I 438 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 4: have both been diagnosed with depression at some point. You 439 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 4: and I have both been diagnosed with PTSD at some point. 440 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 4: You and I have both undergone you know, some light 441 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 4: baby blue stuff after babies, some normal postpartum stuff after babies. 442 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:13,680 Speaker 1: You know the. 443 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 4: Gamut, right, But I'm just gonna speak directly for myself here, 444 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:22,879 Speaker 4: and I mean, it wasn't long ago, Abby, I was 445 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 4: on the phone with you in such pain and heartache. 446 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 4: And again, if you haven't experienced this, then again you 447 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 4: just don't know. 448 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 1: But it's like when. 449 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:40,159 Speaker 4: You're it a low or you're like, you know, trying 450 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:44,119 Speaker 4: to keep your head above water and you slip. It 451 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 4: is very fast, it is very scary, and it's like, 452 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 4: again unless you've experienced it, you just can't wrap your 453 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 4: head around it because it's like you can be low 454 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 4: and then it's like you have just snowballed to the 455 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 4: bottom where it is terrifying. 456 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 1: Lo And you know, in those. 457 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 4: Moments, you know it's it's a physical pain, it's an 458 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 4: emotional pain. It's crying out to God in saying different things. 459 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 1: But I also, in my. 460 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,879 Speaker 4: Deepest pain and knowing like, Okay, I'm not okay, like 461 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 4: I'm i mentally hurt, I'm not like stable to make 462 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 4: good decisions right now, like I'm aware of that. Right 463 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:35,199 Speaker 4: but amongst chaos and pain, I do know that in 464 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,639 Speaker 4: even wishing like okay, Lord, take me up now, I 465 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,719 Speaker 4: just want to be with you, Lord, I do know 466 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 4: there's a part of you. And perhaps that's the Holy 467 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 4: Spirit talking that you are not rational. These are not 468 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 4: this is temporary. This is the enemy speaking lies into you, like, no, 469 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 4: you don't want to take your life. You don't want 470 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 4: someone else to take your life. Yes, this sucks, but no, 471 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 4: you're going to be okay. And it's like you have 472 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 4: to fight those urges. You have to claw your way 473 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 4: out of the low points. You have to invoke Jesus, 474 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 4: like you know, you're bigger than this, You're bigger than me. 475 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 1: Lord. 476 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 4: I'm giving this to you because I'm telling you it is. 477 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 4: It is incredibly easy to be consumed with despair. 478 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 2: Don't you think one of the things that that we're 479 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:32,239 Speaker 2: missing in our culture and even even in Christianity. I 480 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 2: don't think in Catholicism we're missing it, because I think 481 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 2: we we touch on it a lot in Catholicism. But 482 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 2: I think just kind of like in Christianity in general, 483 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 2: is we we miss the discussion of suffering, Yes, and 484 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 2: and almost like the importance of suffering and how suffering 485 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 2: brings us closer to God, like those crosses bring us 486 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 2: closer to the Lord, and how like yes, like they 487 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 2: can tempt us, like even Jesus was tempted, right, Yes. 488 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 7: They can bring us immense pain. 489 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 2: Like you know, I was reminded in the readings last 490 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 2: week at church that you know, when Lazarus died, Jesus wept, 491 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 2: he was. 492 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 7: In Immen's pain when his friend passed. Jesus experienced Immen's pain, 493 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 7: He experienced Immen's suffering, He experienced all of the things 494 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 7: that we, you know, experience as humans. That's why he 495 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 7: came to earth in human form. But like we we can't. 496 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 7: So I think that's why it's so important like for 497 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 7: us to talk about these things and talk about them 498 00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 7: in the church and not to be like, well, when 499 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 7: you're a Christian, it's just going to be all roses 500 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 7: and rainbows and its and it's not. It's not, and 501 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 7: there will be a lot of suffering is humans, Like, 502 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 7: of course it is just so you know, even some 503 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 7: of the greatest saints that walked this earth who truly 504 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 7: embraced suffering, like in a way that I can't imagine 505 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 7: doing so, But so yes, is this human? It's like, 506 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 7: who's really excited? Like, oh Lord, what kind of suffering 507 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 7: can you be stow upon me today? 508 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 4: Like we just don't do that? But there is something 509 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 4: and I think it's not. I mean, and just because 510 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 4: we're human, it's not until we see the glimmers of 511 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 4: light abby when we're kind of allowing God to pull 512 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 4: us through it where we're like, okay, you know what 513 00:31:56,560 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 4: I mean. But but it is. It's like it's hard 514 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 4: to see it when we're in it. But what a 515 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 4: joy to be able to even our suffering is a 516 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 4: drop in the bucket compared to what Jesus went through. 517 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 4: And every Good Friday, and this is approaching Easter or 518 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:18,479 Speaker 4: so it's right upon us, and every Good Friday, I 519 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 4: almost I get very anxious leading up to it every year, 520 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 4: and I think it's truly because I'm so incredibly aware 521 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 4: of the immense suffering Jesus went through. And every Good Friday, 522 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 4: my children and I watch Passion of the Christ, and 523 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:42,239 Speaker 4: every single time it. Honestly, I don't. It's almost like 524 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 4: it's harder to watch it. It doesn't get easier every year, No, 525 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 4: it doesn't much more aware and I and again, I 526 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 4: take it so much more personally, like looking at what 527 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 4: he went through and knowing my sins were a part 528 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 4: of that. And it's when you get to that level 529 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 4: of knowing, okay, you know, as a walk is a Christian. 530 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 4: I feel like it's like baby steps like I used 531 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 4: to be. For the longest time, I just didn't want 532 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 4: to go to Hell, Like, yeah, I loved God for sure, 533 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 4: but it was like just this intense fear of hell. 534 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 4: So I tried to like snap back out of sin right, 535 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,959 Speaker 4: and then it became it wasn't just that, it was 536 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 4: like when you truly know that we cause God to 537 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 4: weep and we're offending him and hurting him. Like I 538 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 4: really saw how I elevated in my walk with Christ 539 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 4: where it was like I just don't want to hurt 540 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 4: God anymore, Like I don't want to offend God any. 541 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 1: More than I already have. 542 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, because I've done it's so much and I've caused 543 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 4: him so much suffering. And yet it's like so those 544 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 4: moments of when we're in that grief and suffering. It's 545 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 4: like it's so hard to look at it that way, 546 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 4: but it is. It's like what an honor that we 547 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 4: get to suffer. 548 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:08,360 Speaker 2: But yeah, and I think it's like as we grow 549 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 2: in our faith, like we the Holy Spirit like pours out, 550 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,359 Speaker 2: like we receive the gifts of the Holy Spirit. Right, 551 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 2: So I think like when we're children and when we're 552 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 2: like young in our faith, our primary gift of the 553 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:28,360 Speaker 2: Holy Spirit is fear of the Lord. Yeah, right, I 554 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,360 Speaker 2: mean it's important. Yeah, yeah, and that is that is 555 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 2: a gift of the Holy Spirit. Like you're you're like, oh, 556 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 2: don't want to go to hell? Like, right, I know 557 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 2: that the. 558 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 3: Lord, you know. 559 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 2: But then as you grow, like you, you, the Holy 560 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,880 Speaker 2: Spirit starts to impart more gifts on you. 561 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 3: Right. 562 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 2: You start to get like the gift of understanding, You 563 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 2: start to get the gift of knowledge of piety, and 564 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 2: and then it's you know, you, as you continue to grow, 565 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:06,360 Speaker 2: you get the gift of fortitude, You get the gift 566 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 2: of counsel, which maybe then you can start getting to others, 567 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 2: and then you know, finally, I feel like that for 568 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 2: a lot of people, the last gift that the Holy 569 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:21,920 Speaker 2: Spirit imparts on us is wisdom, right, Like you're not 570 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:27,799 Speaker 2: going to have wisdom at you know, fifteen years old, right, but. 571 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:33,400 Speaker 4: Even it's forty or fifty, it's where you're matured in 572 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 4: your faith, right, you know what I mean? And that's 573 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,320 Speaker 4: just something until we take our last breath, we pray 574 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:42,840 Speaker 4: that it continues to grow. 575 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 3: Right. 576 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 4: And so again, my two things that I pray for 577 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,920 Speaker 4: daily is discernment and wisdom, which I feel like they 578 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 4: go hand in hand. But then the other biggest thing, 579 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 4: abby is I feel like all of us who truly 580 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 4: love God, we truly want to be in heaven, right, 581 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 4: But I don't you know, I constantly have to pray 582 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 4: for obedience to follow through because I do feel most 583 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:07,880 Speaker 4: of the time we all know, like what we're praying 584 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,920 Speaker 4: for an answer from God deep down deep dowb We 585 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 4: know what the answer is, and most often when we 586 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 4: keep asking him, it's because we don't like the answer 587 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:19,799 Speaker 4: and we're like, okay, you got to change your answer, God, 588 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,760 Speaker 4: like we already know. And so it's it's also praying 589 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 4: for that obedience to follow through God's will for us, 590 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:30,800 Speaker 4: because it looks different for every. 591 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 1: Single one of us. 592 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,440 Speaker 4: And so it's like, Okay, first you need that discernment 593 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:38,279 Speaker 4: and wisdom, and then it's like, oh, okay, Lord, I 594 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,480 Speaker 4: need the obedience. Bless me with the courage and the 595 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 4: strength to be obedient and to carry out your will 596 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:50,919 Speaker 4: because because also, Abby, even if our life is full 597 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 4: of suffering. And this is why you see, like the 598 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,880 Speaker 4: most the richest people in the world who don't have God, 599 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 4: they all will come and tell you, yeah, I have 600 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 4: every single thing I want for nothing, and I'm not happy. 601 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,359 Speaker 4: And yet you have a very poor person who has 602 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:10,719 Speaker 4: ailments and suffering, and they have Christ within them, and 603 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:14,279 Speaker 4: there's this certain piece and joy that they're like, it 604 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,319 Speaker 4: doesn't make sense, but I'm okay, I'm job. 605 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:22,480 Speaker 2: They feel they feel wealthy like they feel rich, you know, yes. 606 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:26,279 Speaker 4: And so it's like and so I truly do believe too, 607 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:31,279 Speaker 4: kind of putting the success and money aside. If you 608 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:35,319 Speaker 4: coulh you could be doing something in life where you're 609 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 4: not sinning, but you're also not walking in the will 610 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,240 Speaker 4: God has for you. So if that's the case, okay, 611 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 4: you're not sinning, you're not upsetting or offending God, but 612 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,719 Speaker 4: you still don't feel that peace like but something's not right, 613 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 4: it's not fitting, like this isn't what God's calling me 614 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:57,560 Speaker 4: to do. And until you are walking like I'm telling 615 00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,040 Speaker 4: you Abby, when I know I'm truly being obedient and 616 00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,120 Speaker 4: I'm truly I might not even be doing some really 617 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:06,920 Speaker 4: heavy lifting. It might be some very simple things, but 618 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:11,520 Speaker 4: like I have this unexplainable piece where I'm like, Okay, 619 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:15,280 Speaker 4: the last three days I've literally been walking in exactly 620 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:19,000 Speaker 4: what God's called me to do, and it's this unexplainable piece. 621 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 2: You know, yeah, totally yeah and yeah yeah. 622 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,479 Speaker 4: And then there's other days where I could be like, man, 623 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:32,040 Speaker 4: I accomplish this, this, this, this, and and yet I 624 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:35,720 Speaker 4: don't necessarily have that piece because even though I perhaps 625 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:39,400 Speaker 4: may have not been sitting, that was what God called 626 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,759 Speaker 4: me to do, right, you know. And so it's like 627 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 4: it's really trying to be every day dying to self, 628 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 4: literally every day dying to ourself, and like, no. 629 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:51,560 Speaker 1: God, what do you want from me? 630 00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:55,520 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, see you dying to sell? Did you 631 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:59,800 Speaker 2: see where James tall Rico put on which I believe 632 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,960 Speaker 2: Sames Telrico is probably one of the most dangerous people 633 00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:10,840 Speaker 2: running for office in this next selection because he you know, 634 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:17,120 Speaker 2: professes to be a Christian whatever. So Pete hag Sets 635 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:26,480 Speaker 2: pastor said that he hopes that James tell Rico becomes 636 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:32,759 Speaker 2: crucified with Christ, and James tell Rico took that as 637 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:40,120 Speaker 2: a death threat. Oh my gosh, oh lord. And I 638 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:47,000 Speaker 2: was like, okayright, like you don't understand that, like being 639 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:53,120 Speaker 2: crucified like means like dying to self? Like great, you 640 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:56,120 Speaker 2: actually think that his pastru meant we. 641 00:39:56,120 --> 00:40:00,360 Speaker 4: Want to crucify him on the right, right, It's like 642 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 4: find a Catholic to break that down for you. 643 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:09,279 Speaker 8: And we just tell Rico like goes online and it's like, 644 00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,799 Speaker 8: you know, he can choose hate with his words or 645 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:18,440 Speaker 8: something like that, but I choose love, right, Oh of course, 646 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:20,240 Speaker 8: of course. 647 00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:22,800 Speaker 3: I was laughing so hard. 648 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:26,920 Speaker 9: I was like, this guy like professes to be a Christian, 649 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:31,200 Speaker 9: like so got a Christian moral theologian or whatever. I 650 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:35,000 Speaker 9: doesn't know what being crucified in christ means? 651 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 3: Like what like what? 652 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:39,759 Speaker 1: And you know what and abby that is? 653 00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:43,479 Speaker 4: It is, it's it's insane and it's laughable. But I 654 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,920 Speaker 4: think that just goes to testify it's such a glaring 655 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:51,440 Speaker 4: truth of in Christianity today. 656 00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:53,480 Speaker 1: Just love, love, love. 657 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:57,680 Speaker 4: And just everything should feel good and happy and everything 658 00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,959 Speaker 4: should be comfortable, like why the heck should we ever 659 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:02,080 Speaker 4: have to suffer? 660 00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:06,640 Speaker 2: Like everything, and all the comments underneath were like, James, 661 00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:10,160 Speaker 2: you're such a good witness. We choose love with you. 662 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:15,240 Speaker 4: And I'm just like, oh my right, I mean, man, 663 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,360 Speaker 4: when Jesus comes back riding on his horse with the 664 00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,680 Speaker 4: sword and fire in his eyes, like people are like 665 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:26,840 Speaker 4: they just you know, but as with everything, as with 666 00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:31,759 Speaker 4: everything Abby, And again you and I also have this 667 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:38,000 Speaker 4: dare I say, authority influence very much more you, so 668 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:42,080 Speaker 4: very much more you. But with our numbers and our platforms, 669 00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:46,560 Speaker 4: anyone with a large platform has this influence and power 670 00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:52,840 Speaker 4: to literally condition their followers or people who come across 671 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:56,040 Speaker 4: what they're saying. We will literally That's why that's why 672 00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:59,880 Speaker 4: they're called influencers. And again you and I talk about 673 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,560 Speaker 4: the heaviness of that responsibility because we have to answer 674 00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:08,840 Speaker 4: to God for you know, truth or things of omission 675 00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,760 Speaker 4: that we didn't share that we should have or whatever 676 00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:15,799 Speaker 4: it might be. But again, this is I think we 677 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:19,439 Speaker 4: all need to remember. I mean, what God says about 678 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:23,000 Speaker 4: lukewarm Christians, Like I really feel like we're trying to 679 00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:26,880 Speaker 4: change what it means to be a Christian, Like, no 680 00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:32,040 Speaker 4: one wants to pick up their cross, right, follow Jesus. 681 00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,480 Speaker 4: Did Jesus live in a palace and have this life 682 00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:35,160 Speaker 4: of luxury? 683 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:35,319 Speaker 3: Like? 684 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,719 Speaker 4: What did he tell us? I mean, will it be 685 00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:42,680 Speaker 4: worth it? Did he promise and guarantee us that? Absolutely 686 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,640 Speaker 4: he did? Did he promise you a life of zero 687 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:50,480 Speaker 4: suffering or zero persecution? No, he told you the opposite, right, 688 00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:54,919 Speaker 4: that's what he told you. And and so I think 689 00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:58,879 Speaker 4: we forget like the whole basis of what the son 690 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:03,400 Speaker 4: of God warned us. What it is to me to 691 00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,520 Speaker 4: earn paradise, not that we can earn it, but what 692 00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:10,000 Speaker 4: it means to like unite ourselves into our. 693 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,439 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, so like we have to have fruit, right 694 00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:18,960 Speaker 2: like yeah, yeah, And so again people need to remember. 695 00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:22,200 Speaker 4: So many people and I've always used this saying abby 696 00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,960 Speaker 4: and I'm probably going to they think it's like Willy 697 00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:28,720 Speaker 4: Wonka with golden tickets that we just repasses to heaven 698 00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:33,439 Speaker 4: because we love Jesus and we proclaim he's the son 699 00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:35,120 Speaker 4: of God and he died for us and he rose 700 00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:38,200 Speaker 4: from the dead. And while that's great, Satan will tell 701 00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,520 Speaker 4: you all of that. The deacons will tell you all 702 00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,359 Speaker 4: of that they and they tremble before God. 703 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:47,640 Speaker 2: So yeah, it's like when people go, well, I'm spiritual, 704 00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:49,960 Speaker 2: Hill is the devil? 705 00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:53,799 Speaker 4: Yeah, And the couple can tell you all the facts 706 00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,719 Speaker 4: he can recite, and the devil knows he'll tell you 707 00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:00,759 Speaker 4: exactly what Jesus did in all the those things. Tell 708 00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:03,680 Speaker 4: you he's the son of God that he's Oh yeah, 709 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,440 Speaker 4: so is that enough because Satan can do that, the. 710 00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:07,360 Speaker 1: Demons can do that. 711 00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:11,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, And so it's much more than that. And again 712 00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,680 Speaker 4: because we are humans and so weak and frail. Yes 713 00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,720 Speaker 4: we need a savior. Yes, we need our heavenly Father. 714 00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:20,879 Speaker 4: And it takes that humility every day to go to him. Lord, 715 00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:22,880 Speaker 4: I'm giving you my life. I'm laying myself with my 716 00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,640 Speaker 4: family at the foot of the cross. Give me wisdom, 717 00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:30,759 Speaker 4: give me discernment, give me obedience, you know, and I 718 00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:35,400 Speaker 4: just you know, I tell everyone and I myself. You know, 719 00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,800 Speaker 4: we all have to be on guard of the shiny 720 00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:42,479 Speaker 4: things out there and anything that is trying to tell 721 00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:48,080 Speaker 4: you from a biblical standpoint or from an eternity standpoint, 722 00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,400 Speaker 4: anything to make it easier, or anything to water it 723 00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:55,160 Speaker 4: down or anything. Oh, happy, happy, happy, love, love love, 724 00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:58,560 Speaker 4: love love. It's just it's okay. God wants you to 725 00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:01,080 Speaker 4: be happy, to do what ever your little heart tells 726 00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:05,279 Speaker 4: you to do. No, your emotions will lie to you. Yeah, 727 00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,920 Speaker 4: so yeah. I think they're the mo when people and 728 00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:09,839 Speaker 4: people say like. 729 00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:12,960 Speaker 2: You know, well, it's just all about love and love 730 00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:15,960 Speaker 2: is love, and I'm like, well, water is water, so 731 00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:19,719 Speaker 2: go drink out of the toilet, like no, right, it 732 00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:24,480 Speaker 2: is not no, like it is not just about all 733 00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,719 Speaker 2: love or it's not just all about no. It is 734 00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:33,680 Speaker 2: like it is so like our relationship with God is 735 00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:39,400 Speaker 2: not just that easy, right, Like it is intimate, it 736 00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:44,400 Speaker 2: is all knowing. It takes me to be stripping human. 737 00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:48,759 Speaker 2: It takes work, just like any relationship, right right. It's 738 00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,200 Speaker 2: not like you have a one time encounter with a 739 00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:54,000 Speaker 2: friend and then you never speak to them again for 740 00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,160 Speaker 2: the rest of your life and then you're like, that's 741 00:45:56,239 --> 00:46:00,160 Speaker 2: my best friend. I met them one time forty years 742 00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,719 Speaker 2: ago and they've been my best friend ever since. Like 743 00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:07,080 Speaker 2: that would be ridiculous. Like you have to foster a friendship. 744 00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,720 Speaker 2: You have to nurture a friendship. You have to nurture 745 00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:13,520 Speaker 2: all relationships if you want them to be strong. It's 746 00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:18,680 Speaker 2: the same with the Lord absolutely, And in any relationship, 747 00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,480 Speaker 2: there's going to be hard times, there's going to be 748 00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:25,160 Speaker 2: difficult times, there's gonna be times of struggle. But the 749 00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:29,920 Speaker 2: difference is that there's a certainty in your relationship with 750 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:34,680 Speaker 2: God that he will never abandon you, never, never, And 751 00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:36,920 Speaker 2: that's that's the difference. That's the security. 752 00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:42,480 Speaker 4: And as someone who has a paralyzing fear of abandonment, 753 00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:49,440 Speaker 4: that is it's that word like security. It's like only 754 00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:52,200 Speaker 4: he can give that to me, like no one else 755 00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:54,359 Speaker 4: on this earth is ever going to be able to 756 00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:58,239 Speaker 4: fill that void. And you know, Abby, so often, I 757 00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:01,319 Speaker 4: feel like one of the most common essians I get 758 00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:05,400 Speaker 4: from people is whether they've never really had a relationship 759 00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:08,600 Speaker 4: or God or fallen away. They're just like, how do 760 00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:10,719 Speaker 4: you like pray? And how do you like talk to God? 761 00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,920 Speaker 4: And how do you start it? And I'm like, start 762 00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,800 Speaker 4: it by going to him and saying that, like, Lord, 763 00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:18,839 Speaker 4: I'm here and I don't know what to do, and 764 00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:22,440 Speaker 4: I feel lost, and I feel angry, and I feel scared, 765 00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:27,080 Speaker 4: and you are my father, And I said, talk to 766 00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:31,520 Speaker 4: him as he is your father, because he is. And 767 00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:33,799 Speaker 4: so I even tell people and I'm very open. I 768 00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:37,919 Speaker 4: go to God. I approach him like my father all 769 00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:40,520 Speaker 4: the time, and sometimes that's like a three year old 770 00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:44,279 Speaker 4: stomping their feet, Like I literally go to God is 771 00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:48,640 Speaker 4: my dad all the time, in so many different aspects, 772 00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:52,440 Speaker 4: and I feel like while there's such again a reverence 773 00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:55,840 Speaker 4: and like I just tremble at the thought of kneeling 774 00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,840 Speaker 4: before God one day, there's such a love and comfort 775 00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,200 Speaker 4: that it's like I just feel like I can also 776 00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,640 Speaker 4: curl up on his lap and just be like God 777 00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:07,279 Speaker 4: just told me, just give me that security. And so 778 00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:10,360 Speaker 4: you just I go to God with everything, all the emotions, 779 00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:13,160 Speaker 4: and He's pay like, there's my girl, there's. 780 00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:13,919 Speaker 1: My unhinged girl. 781 00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:15,480 Speaker 3: Covin ha. 782 00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:20,359 Speaker 4: But and so, you know, kind of coming back to 783 00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:25,560 Speaker 4: our main point of this podcast and seeing this beautiful 784 00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:31,279 Speaker 4: girl who was who was legally murdered in a hospital. 785 00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:38,040 Speaker 4: We all have suffering, We all have these we all 786 00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:40,680 Speaker 4: carry a certain pain abby that no one else is 787 00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:44,200 Speaker 4: going to understand. I've told you about some of mine, 788 00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,080 Speaker 4: You've told me about some of yours. 789 00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,040 Speaker 1: What this beautiful. 790 00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:52,759 Speaker 4: Young woman under went through none of us would be 791 00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:53,600 Speaker 4: able to understand. 792 00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:55,759 Speaker 1: But only God understands it. 793 00:48:56,440 --> 00:49:01,640 Speaker 4: He knows exactly what we've endured, and so I just 794 00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:07,040 Speaker 4: my goodness, whoever is hurting, whoever is suffering, or if 795 00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:11,279 Speaker 4: you're in a good spot, like, be aware that at 796 00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:15,279 Speaker 4: some point the bottom may possibly drop out. And you 797 00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:18,880 Speaker 4: have to know that when you were having those intense 798 00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,560 Speaker 4: emotions like this is it, this is it, I do 799 00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:23,960 Speaker 4: not want to be here anymore. Like you have to 800 00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:27,120 Speaker 4: know who is speaking those thoughts into your head, right, 801 00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:32,120 Speaker 4: and we have to realize that that is not that 802 00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:36,360 Speaker 4: is not a natural test, that is not in any way, 803 00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:39,439 Speaker 4: shape or form. All you have to go to is say, 804 00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:40,759 Speaker 4: would God approve of this? 805 00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:42,280 Speaker 3: Right? Again? 806 00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:45,120 Speaker 4: Would God ever approve of the of the pulling of 807 00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:47,680 Speaker 4: the limbs of his child in the womb? I don't 808 00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:51,080 Speaker 4: care how that baby was conceived. He would never, under 809 00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:55,200 Speaker 4: any circumstance approve of that. Would he approve? Yes, my 810 00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:59,279 Speaker 4: poor daughter has suffered so greatly, so I want you 811 00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,759 Speaker 4: to kill her by injecting her with these things. Never 812 00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:04,520 Speaker 4: in a billion years would he do that. 813 00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:08,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, but have you watched have you been watching the 814 00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:09,600 Speaker 2: Pit on HBO? 815 00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:10,040 Speaker 3: Max? 816 00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:15,920 Speaker 2: They are you know, of course it's on HBO, So 817 00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:19,560 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, you expect all the cultural things 818 00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:22,440 Speaker 2: right now, But they were Okay, let's see in the 819 00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:27,080 Speaker 2: past two episodes, Noah Wiley's in it and he's received 820 00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:30,040 Speaker 2: like all the awards for it, and like it's a 821 00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:31,920 Speaker 2: good show. There's good acting and stuff in it. But 822 00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:36,600 Speaker 2: let's see the last two episodes, they have completely demonized ice. 823 00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:41,800 Speaker 2: They have pushed a woman, They did euthanize a woman 824 00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:49,160 Speaker 2: in the hospital, and you know, made it totally like normal. Yeah, 825 00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:52,120 Speaker 2: she had the answer, and so they just totally normalize that, 826 00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:55,560 Speaker 2: you know, like, well, this is her choice, this is 827 00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:59,040 Speaker 2: what's best for her. She had two young children. You know, 828 00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:00,560 Speaker 2: she's didn't want to fly anymore. 829 00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:04,480 Speaker 4: Baby, It's going to be a total escape from suffering. 830 00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:07,120 Speaker 4: No one has to suffer any Yes, no one has 831 00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:08,040 Speaker 4: to suffer anymore. 832 00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:11,600 Speaker 2: And I and I just think like it's so, it's 833 00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:17,520 Speaker 2: just so our culture is so influenceable, Oh yeah, by 834 00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:21,160 Speaker 2: these messages, and this is these are this is a 835 00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:26,040 Speaker 2: TV show. This is fake right right, This isn't even 836 00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:30,279 Speaker 2: like someone's real story. This is like, hey, okay, these 837 00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:36,880 Speaker 2: are actors, but people are coming to conclusions and opinions 838 00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:43,560 Speaker 2: about other people's real lives based on stories that they 839 00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:49,600 Speaker 2: see by actors. And I'm like, oh my gosh, like, 840 00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:55,919 Speaker 2: how stupidly vulnerable is our society right now? 841 00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:59,839 Speaker 4: Well, we've done that with everything from even just from 842 00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:05,840 Speaker 4: Abby the culture around sexuality. Oh, it's from it's from Netflix, 843 00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:09,680 Speaker 4: is from HBO, it's from it's from series, it's from movies, 844 00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:14,640 Speaker 4: it's from TV shows of normalizing it and putting it 845 00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:20,920 Speaker 4: out there funny, qubickly and in that this is honestly, 846 00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:27,080 Speaker 4: I think we probably don't even realize being euthanized. It's 847 00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:31,480 Speaker 4: probaced so much more underway. 848 00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:32,799 Speaker 1: I think that that. 849 00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:37,279 Speaker 4: We're ready to realize this isn't just like random one here, 850 00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:39,040 Speaker 4: one here, isolated in the. 851 00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:42,800 Speaker 2: Center, happening like it's already happening in like Oregon, Washington 852 00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:46,440 Speaker 2: State like happening, and it's happening in New Mexico. 853 00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:52,760 Speaker 4: Going to accelerate with stories like this and TV shows 854 00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:56,840 Speaker 4: like this, and again with the programming around it. This 855 00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:00,959 Speaker 4: is uh, don't let your mother in law suffer, don't 856 00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:03,560 Speaker 4: let your husband suffer, you know what I mean? 857 00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:06,279 Speaker 1: And it that terrifies me. 858 00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:11,120 Speaker 4: And this will be accelerated to be the next normalized 859 00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:16,239 Speaker 4: thing as Satan laughs, because this is what we do, 860 00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:21,080 Speaker 4: our sick culture, our evil society. We take everything that 861 00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:24,440 Speaker 4: is good and holy, and we twist it, and we 862 00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:29,360 Speaker 4: contort it, and we take it to the exact opposite, 863 00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:30,919 Speaker 4: farthest from God. 864 00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:33,279 Speaker 2: Well, and conservative Christians are falling for it. 865 00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:36,360 Speaker 1: Yes, that's the worst part. Abby. 866 00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:40,840 Speaker 4: I can't even I can't even identify anymore. Literally, I 867 00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:44,200 Speaker 4: just I can't even identify. I feel like identifying even 868 00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:46,759 Speaker 4: as a Republican, like I always tell people I'm a 869 00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:51,719 Speaker 4: far right Christian conservative, but like, what again, everyone in 870 00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:54,520 Speaker 4: our I feel like I've ticked off all the Republicans 871 00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:56,879 Speaker 4: now too. I've always done a great job calling out 872 00:53:56,880 --> 00:54:00,520 Speaker 4: the Democratic Party, which I have no alignment with, so 873 00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:02,399 Speaker 4: I'm not saying that. But when you call out your 874 00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:06,080 Speaker 4: own party, they think, oh, you're automatically a Democrat. Oh 875 00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:09,200 Speaker 4: you're And I'm always like people are like hey, people 876 00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:11,560 Speaker 4: who are just stumble upon a post of mine and 877 00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:17,960 Speaker 4: my wording for just calling it like it is, Oh yeah, 878 00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:19,080 Speaker 4: she wanted Kamala. 879 00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:20,960 Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? 880 00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:22,120 Speaker 3: No? I'm just not. 881 00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:24,440 Speaker 4: Afraid to tell it like it is. And it breaks 882 00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:27,960 Speaker 4: my heart when I see people on the same quote 883 00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:31,120 Speaker 4: unquote team as me who are falling for it, who 884 00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:35,920 Speaker 4: are conforming who are bending, who are same like you said, 885 00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:40,640 Speaker 4: Appy has called it like it is because especially in 886 00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:44,840 Speaker 4: the pro life movement, why is the other side winning 887 00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:48,359 Speaker 4: because they never bend, They do not bend, And what 888 00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:52,520 Speaker 4: does our side do? We always bend, we always will. Okay, 889 00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:55,400 Speaker 4: let's just give it a like. That's not much at least, No, 890 00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:59,040 Speaker 4: that's not winning. You have to plant your feet in 891 00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:04,560 Speaker 4: the cement, not bend, because on most things it is 892 00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:09,880 Speaker 4: black or white. And too many people on our team 893 00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:12,319 Speaker 4: who are playing for God and who are playing for 894 00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:16,440 Speaker 4: the Christians and the Conservatives, they are they are abby. 895 00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:19,200 Speaker 4: They are being swiftly carried into the gray area. 896 00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:26,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's it's flarming willing, I mean willingly, willingly. 897 00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:29,160 Speaker 4: Like again, and so when I'm seeing an Abby, I'm like, Okay, 898 00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:32,400 Speaker 4: are they doing this blindly? Are they doing this for money? 899 00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:37,200 Speaker 4: Is Satan literally just blind siding them? Is it all 900 00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:37,840 Speaker 4: of the above? 901 00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:40,960 Speaker 1: And it's and. 902 00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:45,040 Speaker 4: Again I'm just like, man, this is such a crazy time, 903 00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:48,640 Speaker 4: Like you have to be armored up, you have to 904 00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:55,240 Speaker 4: be praying for graces. This is such spiritual warfare. And again, 905 00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:57,920 Speaker 4: what Abby and I always say, and I know her, 906 00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:00,320 Speaker 4: you know Abby and Doug do this with their chill children, 907 00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:03,319 Speaker 4: and I do this with mine. You constantly have to 908 00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:07,040 Speaker 4: be having very open conversations with your children. You constantly 909 00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:10,560 Speaker 4: have to be praying with them, constantly praying over them. 910 00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:14,640 Speaker 4: And again, you can't put them in a bubble. They 911 00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:18,120 Speaker 4: have to face evil head on. And so you have 912 00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:20,160 Speaker 4: to do it with them. I mean, that's the thing. 913 00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:23,120 Speaker 4: You have to do it with them. You have to 914 00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:28,000 Speaker 4: and just can't leave them like spiritually unprepared. 915 00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:30,640 Speaker 1: No, no, and it is. 916 00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:35,200 Speaker 4: It's it's literally armoring your kids up and armoring up 917 00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:38,680 Speaker 4: beside them and knowing this is truth. 918 00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:39,959 Speaker 1: This doesn't bend. 919 00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:43,839 Speaker 4: It's never going to change, no matter what your teacher says, 920 00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:46,840 Speaker 4: no matter what Johnny tells you in class, no matter 921 00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:47,799 Speaker 4: what the Netflix. 922 00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:50,359 Speaker 1: You know, the series tells you that. 923 00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:52,480 Speaker 2: What was what? 924 00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:55,640 Speaker 4: Oh Abby and I what was so innocent? For years, 925 00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:58,719 Speaker 4: our little boys loved cocoa melon, and then like a 926 00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:01,840 Speaker 4: year or two ago that that completely went sideways. 927 00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:02,480 Speaker 3: Yeah and so. 928 00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:09,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, and so it's like like come on, coco melon, 929 00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:13,000 Speaker 4: come on, like Abby, years, we gave you years with 930 00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:17,320 Speaker 4: kJ and fulls and and so it is that's suffer 931 00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:22,000 Speaker 4: we sufferg he sufferd through the music and the kJ 932 00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:23,160 Speaker 4: always had his hair. 933 00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:25,840 Speaker 2: AJ and JJ. 934 00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:30,240 Speaker 1: And and so it's. 935 00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:32,520 Speaker 4: Like, yeah, it's not a fairy tale. It's never going 936 00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:34,360 Speaker 4: to be And this is the world we live in. 937 00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:37,640 Speaker 4: And again we're called to be saints, we are called 938 00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:41,240 Speaker 4: to race saints. So it's like we can complain about 939 00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:43,880 Speaker 4: the times we're living in or we can also feel 940 00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:48,320 Speaker 4: honored to be like, dang, God shows us. God chose 941 00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:53,040 Speaker 4: us right now for right now. So let that light 942 00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:55,680 Speaker 4: of fire in you all. Yeah, because there are days 943 00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:58,120 Speaker 4: where I'm like, dang, this would just this sucks, man, 944 00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:01,720 Speaker 4: this sucks to be alive during this time while literally 945 00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:05,360 Speaker 4: all of Heaven and the saints you're envious of us 946 00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:09,000 Speaker 4: where they are just like if they even knew, what 947 00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:13,040 Speaker 4: a time to be alive, to to really soldier up 948 00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:16,800 Speaker 4: for God, what a time to be alive, to try 949 00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:20,440 Speaker 4: to become a saint, to try to raise saints, to 950 00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:25,040 Speaker 4: be a soldier for Christ amongst this evil, to stand 951 00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:28,800 Speaker 4: up against Satan, to stand up against the sick, evil world. 952 00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:32,400 Speaker 1: Man, the saints in Heaven are all envious. 953 00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:38,400 Speaker 2: So literally those are totally and abounds. 954 00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:41,600 Speaker 4: Grace abounds even more so when I do get scared 955 00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:47,000 Speaker 4: and like man, Lord. It's like his mercy does has 956 00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:52,040 Speaker 4: will abound even more. And so I'm telling you i'd 957 00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:53,960 Speaker 4: be when I need to give myself a pep talk 958 00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:57,240 Speaker 4: and a reminder of who I am and speak in 959 00:58:57,360 --> 00:59:01,440 Speaker 4: authority over the enemy. It's like I am and not 960 00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:05,440 Speaker 4: have a pity party for myself. Yeah, it's like the 961 00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:08,800 Speaker 4: daughter of the Most High, my father's the king of 962 00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:09,560 Speaker 4: the universe. 963 00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:10,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean. 964 00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:15,680 Speaker 4: Like it's it's like, man, we've got to step up 965 00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:19,520 Speaker 4: and stand out and be courageous and not bend, not 966 00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:21,040 Speaker 4: bend flipping inch. 967 00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:23,400 Speaker 2: Nope, that's what we've got to do. 968 00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:27,760 Speaker 7: Yeah, just stop getting in, stop stopping getting in. 969 00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:30,840 Speaker 4: I mean so many times, and we're gonna wrap here. 970 00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:34,919 Speaker 4: Like Abby has called me over the months and she's like, rag, 971 00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:37,680 Speaker 4: what am I doing? Like I'm the only one out 972 00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:39,560 Speaker 4: here on the slim Like am I crazy? 973 00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:40,480 Speaker 3: Am I? 974 00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:44,240 Speaker 4: Like? Should I back? And I'm like, dude, what an honor? 975 00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:49,680 Speaker 4: What an honor that it is? You saying certain things, 976 00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:54,680 Speaker 4: taking persecution being out on that plank all alone, Like 977 00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:57,720 Speaker 4: what an honor? And I think that's what I mean. 978 00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:01,320 Speaker 4: Abby's the first one to be humble. She's the first 979 01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:04,440 Speaker 4: one to list all her sins to you know, everything 980 01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:07,160 Speaker 4: of her past is out there. But it's like if 981 01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:09,760 Speaker 4: there's one thing, it's like Abby's going to shoot straight 982 01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:12,760 Speaker 4: with you and she's going to be like whatever, I'm 983 01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:14,160 Speaker 4: not moving, I'm not bending. 984 01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:15,680 Speaker 1: Say what you want. 985 01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:20,160 Speaker 4: And I think that is one of the most admirable 986 01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:23,680 Speaker 4: things where we know we're if we're we're on the 987 01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:26,480 Speaker 4: right side, if we're if we're if we're doing it 988 01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:29,760 Speaker 4: for Christ, and we know it's like, man, no matter what, again, 989 01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:32,640 Speaker 4: what a blessing to be persecuted. I think you know, 990 01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:34,960 Speaker 4: I have people coming at me left and right, and 991 01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:36,760 Speaker 4: some people are like, doesn't that hurt your feelings? 992 01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:39,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, you know what, this is all. It's embarrassing 993 01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:41,480 Speaker 1: to even compare it to what Jesus. 994 01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:41,520 Speaker 2: Did for me. 995 01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:42,280 Speaker 1: It's embarrassing. 996 01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:43,040 Speaker 7: It's nothing. 997 01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:45,920 Speaker 4: It's like every little thing that might get to me 998 01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:48,680 Speaker 4: or might hurt my feelings, I offer it up to God. 999 01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:51,160 Speaker 4: This is a drop in the bucket. This is it's 1000 01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:54,240 Speaker 4: beautiful to be persecuted and to suffer. 1001 01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:58,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's hard. It comes with the cost, 1002 01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:02,160 Speaker 2: but it's like us, do you know, whatever the penalty is, 1003 01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:04,400 Speaker 2: whatever the caust say is like Jesus, take care. 1004 01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:07,120 Speaker 1: This is a blip, your guys. 1005 01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:11,800 Speaker 4: Eternity is forever and ever and ever, and so you know, 1006 01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:14,760 Speaker 4: I pray every single person listening to this, I pray 1007 01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:17,360 Speaker 4: that God blesses you abundantly. I pray that He blesses 1008 01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:21,560 Speaker 4: your family abundantly with peace and joy and health and 1009 01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:26,600 Speaker 4: safety and perseverance, perseverance because again, yeah, I mean, we 1010 01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:29,160 Speaker 4: could all be just sitting in a closet crying, rocking 1011 01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:32,280 Speaker 4: back and forth, knowing the evil in this world. Or 1012 01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:35,640 Speaker 4: we can be like Lord, use me. I'm a I'm 1013 01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:39,200 Speaker 4: just your lowly servant. But use me, Lord, use me. 1014 01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:43,080 Speaker 4: Let me at least do something for you and your kingdom. 1015 01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:45,920 Speaker 4: And that just by the grace of God and what 1016 01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:49,680 Speaker 4: Jesus did for us, that I'm able and my children 1017 01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:53,440 Speaker 4: are able to spend eternity with you, worshiping you, and 1018 01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:57,280 Speaker 4: just let it light you on fire again, God shows 1019 01:01:57,320 --> 01:02:01,280 Speaker 4: you for this insane time, no matter how sinful you are, 1020 01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:03,880 Speaker 4: no matter how far off the path you are. I 1021 01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:07,200 Speaker 4: need again, Abby, one of my favorite verses. I mean, 1022 01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:11,120 Speaker 4: all of Heaven rejoices over that one that comes back 1023 01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:13,600 Speaker 4: versus the ninety nine that have been doing good because 1024 01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:15,480 Speaker 4: I know I've been there when I look at these 1025 01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:18,000 Speaker 4: super holy people and I'm like, man, I'm just so 1026 01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:22,520 Speaker 4: unworthy and gross and sinful. And then it's like all 1027 01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:25,400 Speaker 4: of Heaven is rejoicing. Every time I try to get 1028 01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:27,080 Speaker 4: back on track, They're like, she's back. 1029 01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:30,120 Speaker 1: She's back, she's enjoying it again. 1030 01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:32,120 Speaker 3: She's doing it. 1031 01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:32,800 Speaker 2: Folks. 1032 01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:37,720 Speaker 4: Come on like literally, guys like, I've gotta hype myself 1033 01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:38,320 Speaker 4: up like this. 1034 01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:41,680 Speaker 1: All of Heaven is like our girl's back. She's back. 1035 01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:45,360 Speaker 4: She is clawing away to get up here with us. 1036 01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:48,520 Speaker 4: And that's how you have to think of it. Literally, God, 1037 01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:52,280 Speaker 4: just use me, and I promise God will does not 1038 01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:55,840 Speaker 4: know how to say no when you are truly saying Lord, 1039 01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:58,920 Speaker 4: use me as a vessel, pour your graces into me. 1040 01:02:59,120 --> 01:02:59,880 Speaker 1: I promise you. 1041 01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:01,400 Speaker 4: He can't not do that. 1042 01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:03,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, and he will. 1043 01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:04,720 Speaker 1: He will. 1044 01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:08,920 Speaker 2: He will just have to have an open spirit, yes, and. 1045 01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:12,040 Speaker 4: Be willing to suffer, and be willing to suffer. You 1046 01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:17,640 Speaker 4: have to, because what that does come peace and joy there. 1047 01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:20,560 Speaker 4: It's an unexplainable peace and joy. 1048 01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:24,520 Speaker 2: I look at Job. If you've read the book of Job. 1049 01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:29,560 Speaker 4: Wild Man wild nobody got the shaft more than Job 1050 01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:33,480 Speaker 4: right and again it's not like he even had an 1051 01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:37,040 Speaker 4: inkling or because again, God knows her thoughts. It wasn't like, Okay, 1052 01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:39,960 Speaker 4: maybe if I push this out a little longer, I'm 1053 01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:41,360 Speaker 4: going to be blessed tenfold. 1054 01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:43,440 Speaker 2: No, it's like job's like man. 1055 01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:46,200 Speaker 4: Like, it's all gone. 1056 01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:50,200 Speaker 3: It's like I got boils on my body. 1057 01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:56,000 Speaker 4: Right, it's like dag, this is I can't get any lower. 1058 01:03:56,200 --> 01:04:00,800 Speaker 3: But you know why, God is good? Got boiled. 1059 01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:04,400 Speaker 1: It just hurts to be alive. 1060 01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:11,840 Speaker 4: You don't want to, right, You're probably moments Lord, if 1061 01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:17,200 Speaker 4: you want to bring me up, okay, anytime, any time good. 1062 01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:22,800 Speaker 4: But again, there was this something inside him that was like, 1063 01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:25,680 Speaker 4: you know what, No, you're not taking my worship away 1064 01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:29,160 Speaker 4: from God. You're taking my peace and joy away of 1065 01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:32,640 Speaker 4: my love for God. You know, he told his wife basically, 1066 01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:34,840 Speaker 4: what the hell are you speaking? 1067 01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:35,240 Speaker 3: Woman? 1068 01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:39,480 Speaker 1: I get behind me, sane? Literally, don't you. 1069 01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:42,800 Speaker 5: Dare All the all the apostles, like the way they 1070 01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:46,320 Speaker 5: were killed, they were like killed in horrific ways, right, 1071 01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:50,760 Speaker 5: they were like you know, crucified upside down. They're like 1072 01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:54,720 Speaker 5: flat open, like you're headed, like burned alive, like all 1073 01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:57,560 Speaker 5: these they're terrible and at any point in time they 1074 01:04:57,600 --> 01:05:01,400 Speaker 5: could have been like just kidding, like I didn't really 1075 01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:05,440 Speaker 5: see Jesus, like just kidding, like I wasn't the Last Supper, 1076 01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:08,080 Speaker 5: Like I didn't really see your rise from the dead. 1077 01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:11,760 Speaker 2: But like they were so sure, and they were so 1078 01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:13,200 Speaker 2: because they did see what. 1079 01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:16,280 Speaker 4: They dies and no one dies for a lie, No 1080 01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:18,520 Speaker 4: one dies for a lie, no one dies for life. 1081 01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:24,320 Speaker 4: And the Apostles were able to have this man, if 1082 01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:28,240 Speaker 4: I can only suffer a little more for what they saw, 1083 01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:32,240 Speaker 4: they they saw it, and so they were like, let 1084 01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:34,800 Speaker 4: me suffer more. No, you want to crucify me. No, 1085 01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:38,320 Speaker 4: I'm not worthy. Do it upside down, I'm not worthy 1086 01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:40,400 Speaker 4: to be crucified. 1087 01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:42,880 Speaker 2: Because I think it's like Saint Stephen was like he 1088 01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:45,800 Speaker 2: was like being burned alive and he's like he's like, 1089 01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:47,880 Speaker 2: turn me over, I'm done on this side. 1090 01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:53,880 Speaker 4: Literally like yeah yeah, like yeah, yeah, the other way. 1091 01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:58,240 Speaker 2: And so these were people that like knew I mean 1092 01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:00,600 Speaker 2: like they knew Jesus. And so look at. 1093 01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:03,840 Speaker 4: Saint John before being beheaded, there was like this peace 1094 01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:07,720 Speaker 4: and calmness and and it's like even you know, you know, 1095 01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:10,920 Speaker 4: just he knew what he was going towards. And it's 1096 01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:13,840 Speaker 4: like literally to be is and I always feel like 1097 01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:16,880 Speaker 4: I'm a little unhinged like Saint John. Like not I'm 1098 01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:18,400 Speaker 4: not trying to say good, but like I feel like 1099 01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:20,960 Speaker 4: I'm a little unhinged like Saint John, like all eating locusts. 1100 01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:26,480 Speaker 4: And but it's like to know, like, man, I'm about 1101 01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:28,000 Speaker 4: to be beheaded for God. 1102 01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:29,840 Speaker 1: This is so great, man. 1103 01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:35,400 Speaker 4: I mean, if we could all only write right and 1104 01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:39,000 Speaker 4: so and so, maybe we just pray that we can 1105 01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:43,600 Speaker 4: persevere until there and it will all be beheaded for Christ. Right, 1106 01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:47,800 Speaker 4: So literally, abby, I do There are times over a 1107 01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:50,680 Speaker 4: dozen i'd say that I have prayed for martyrdom, but 1108 01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:54,600 Speaker 4: I will say in the same breath I prayed two 1109 01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:57,680 Speaker 4: things that I never watched my children suffer and that 1110 01:06:57,760 --> 01:07:00,160 Speaker 4: they don't have to, And so I kind of put 1111 01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:01,200 Speaker 4: like little things on it. 1112 01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:03,160 Speaker 2: And I'm also like, Lord, if it could just be 1113 01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:05,720 Speaker 2: really quick, it could just be and I could be 1114 01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:07,040 Speaker 2: dying in a state of grice. 1115 01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:11,000 Speaker 4: Okay, So I've always liked me like, really really fast, 1116 01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:14,080 Speaker 4: and that's it, and don't let my children suffer or 1117 01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:16,560 Speaker 4: let me see them supper, and it could be really quick, 1118 01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:17,120 Speaker 4: and I'm in a. 1119 01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:20,800 Speaker 2: State of grace missions on this martyrdom, Okay, verry Lord, 1120 01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:25,560 Speaker 2: just those few, just those few, okay, and. 1121 01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:31,840 Speaker 4: That'll be okay, Oh my gosh. And again but Abby, 1122 01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:35,840 Speaker 4: and let's end on this statement. It is about those 1123 01:07:36,520 --> 01:07:42,479 Speaker 4: who persevere until the end, and so may we pray it's. 1124 01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:46,720 Speaker 2: A gift of the Holy spirits fortitude to persevere until 1125 01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:49,600 Speaker 2: the very end, no matter when that day comes. 1126 01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:53,040 Speaker 4: And I mean literally that should be in it. That 1127 01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:55,920 Speaker 4: should that should be the prayer, one of the many prayers, 1128 01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:59,680 Speaker 4: but a pretty frequent prayer. May may I persevere until 1129 01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:06,360 Speaker 4: the endlae four two dude, Yes, amen, Yeah, I. 1130 01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:08,040 Speaker 2: Just say I just want fortitude. 1131 01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:10,560 Speaker 3: Dude, Amen, I mean a. 1132 01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:18,600 Speaker 4: Well, I uh I pro people are probably like, we 1133 01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:21,200 Speaker 4: just never know what's coming from Abby and Reagan never know. 1134 01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:22,640 Speaker 3: You just never know. 1135 01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:24,960 Speaker 4: That's and Abby and I never know what's coming. And 1136 01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:26,160 Speaker 4: that's the best part about it. 1137 01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:28,519 Speaker 3: I love it. 1138 01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:31,360 Speaker 1: Well, I'm so glad y'all joined us. 1139 01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:33,720 Speaker 4: I am going to follow up with Abby and her 1140 01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:37,240 Speaker 4: assistance to make sure we get some airport updates over 1141 01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:41,200 Speaker 4: the next week or so and uh so peak at 1142 01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:46,680 Speaker 4: Abby socials for that. And truly, I really want everybody 1143 01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:52,400 Speaker 4: to remember this and stay steadfast until next time. 1144 01:08:53,240 --> 01:08:54,839 Speaker 2: Keep raising your little Saints 1145 01:08:55,520 --> 01:09:09,759 Speaker 4: Opted the little daring, take hard