Speaker 1: Erica Kirk finally hits back against the insane conspiracists who
Speaker 1: are sowing massive discord on the American rights. Meanwhile, a
Speaker 1: tanker sees off the coast of Venezuela. Things are deeply
Speaker 1: heating up here in this Western hemisphere. What doesn't mean for
Speaker 1: a Trump foreign policy? All of that, much more in
Speaker 1: today's episode of The Josh Hammer Show. Well Erica Kirk,
Speaker 1: the widow of Charlie Kirk, finally breaking her silence and
Speaker 1: smashing in no uncertain terms the unhinged conspiracists, the utter, mental, lunatic, insane,
Speaker 1: asylum worthy loombacks who have been saying some of the
Speaker 1: most backcraf crazy stuff imagine. But we're going to get
Speaker 1: to all of that as well as Tyler Robinson, the
Speaker 1: alleged likely assassin of Charlie Kirk, is now in court
Speaker 1: for the first time today. All that and more momentarily,
Speaker 1: but for now, just some news of the day. So,
Speaker 1: a really high profile incident off the coast of Venezuela yesterday.
Speaker 1: This is not the kind of thing that you see
Speaker 1: every day. An oil tanker, an oil tanker, a full
Speaker 1: fledged oil tanker, was seized by the United States Coast
Speaker 1: Guard and by the United States Navy. Now, the way
Speaker 1: that this worked is you had a war boat striker
Speaker 1: group led by the USS Gerald Ford, which is a
Speaker 1: major aircraft carrier. This is all sent down off the
Speaker 1: coast of Venezuela to the Southern Caribbean area and US
Speaker 1: Southern Command. This all happened over the past month, month
Speaker 1: and a half or so. It is a historical, fairly
Speaker 1: unprecedented show of force when it comes to the United
Speaker 1: States of Americas, specifically talking about Venezuela and the way
Speaker 1: this went down yesterday off the coast of Venezuela was
Speaker 1: the seizure was led by the US Coast Guard with
Speaker 1: support by the United States Navy. Even more granular details.
Speaker 1: The literal way that this actually went down is you
Speaker 1: had some Coast Guard members who were taken to this
Speaker 1: Venezuela and oil tanker by helicopter. The helicopter departing from
Speaker 1: from the USS gerald are Ford. The Ford again arrived
Speaker 1: just last month. In this trumpion show of force, all
Speaker 1: orchestrated against Nicholas Medoro, who is barely hanging on to
Speaker 1: his seat as the communist straw men there in Venezuela,
Speaker 1: and the video shows that people the video is pretty crazy. Pambondi,
Speaker 1: the Attorney General tweeting out showing that folks are fast roping.
Speaker 1: They're roping down from the helicopters as a hover's just
Speaker 1: feet off the deck and the seizure actually went fairly swimmingly.
Speaker 1: For what is worth a little bit more about this
Speaker 1: particular vessel, the US officials, who have spoken on the
Speaker 1: condition of anonymity, have described this vessel as something that
Speaker 1: they referred to only as the Skipper. Now, the Skipper
Speaker 1: was previously known as the MPT Adisa according to ship
Speaker 1: tracking data. There's all sorts of maritime experts who have
Speaker 1: this sort of data in their databases. The Adisa was
Speaker 1: previously sanctioned by the United States in the year twenty
Speaker 1: twenty two, so just three years ago, over accusation that
Speaker 1: the ship at that time belonged to a highly sophisticated
Speaker 1: network of shadow maritime vessels that were involved in smuggling
Speaker 1: crude oil on behalf of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Core,
Speaker 1: which is part of the revolutionary Iranian regime as well
Speaker 1: as Hezbola. We've talked about this in the show numerous times.
Speaker 1: Is this insidious long standing decades long connection actually between
Speaker 1: Hezbolah above all, as well as their patrons in Tehran
Speaker 1: and a lot of the drug cartels in the in
Speaker 1: the Americas, in Latin America. There's a problem that goes
Speaker 1: back many, many, many decades. Is one of the many
Speaker 1: reasons that Hezbolah for forty plus years now has been
Speaker 1: the Irani regime single favorite proxy of all their terrorist
Speaker 1: proxies is the way that Hesbola has been able to
Speaker 1: insinuate themselves and develop really deep relations with a lot
Speaker 1: of the cartels. This actually reached something of a breaking
Speaker 1: point in the second Obama term about ten eleven years
Speaker 1: ago or so. Unfortunately, the Obama ministration ends up large quashing,
Speaker 1: largely ends up burying that particular investigation. Politico did a
Speaker 1: long story of it at the time. I think it
Speaker 1: was actually in the first year of the Trump presidency
Speaker 1: twenty and seventeen. Political had this story at the time.
Speaker 1: It was really one of the great undercovered scandals in
Speaker 1: recent American history. The lengths to which the Obama administration
Speaker 1: went to totally quash and to bury this story about
Speaker 1: the extent of coronation between Hesballa and the drug Cartels Maduro,
Speaker 1: the Cashro, Regimia, cuball all the various bad actors in
Speaker 1: the Western Hemisphere. They oftentimes have hes Ball specifically and
Speaker 1: ultimately Iranian regime support. So this tanker has been on
Speaker 1: the US radar for a while now, and they went
Speaker 1: ahead and actually just seized it yesterday Pambondi who tweeted
Speaker 1: out this really remarkable video of the actual US Coast
Speaker 1: Guard Coach's guardsmen getting off the chopper going down to
Speaker 1: the vessel known as the Skipper. And here's what Attorney
Speaker 1: General Pam Bondi says talking about the legal justification of
Speaker 1: what happened off the coast of Venezuela yesterday. Pampbondi put
Speaker 1: in on X yesterday quote today, the FBI, the Homeland
Speaker 1: Security Investigations, and the US Coast Guard, with support from
Speaker 1: the Department of War, executed a seizure war and for
Speaker 1: a crude oil tanker used to transport sanctioned oil from
Speaker 1: Venezuela and Iran. So there again as the Iran has
Speaker 1: Bola connection. For multiple years, the oil tanker has been
Speaker 1: sanctioned by the United States due to its involvement in
Speaker 1: an illicit oil shipping network supporting foreign terrorist organizations. This seizure,
Speaker 1: completed off the coast of Venezuela, was conducted safely and
Speaker 1: securely in our investigation alongside the Department of Homeland Security
Speaker 1: to prevent the transport of sanctioned oil continues. So this
Speaker 1: is sanctioned oil. It is Irani and Hasbola oil, it
Speaker 1: is Venezuela and oil. All this is sanctioned at this point,
Speaker 1: and ultimately this really is part of the now extended
Speaker 1: months long pressure campaign from the truministration. The narco terrorist
Speaker 1: boat strikes very much a part of this. By the way,
Speaker 1: when it comes to this amplification of press sure on
Speaker 1: the Maduro regime, trying to essentially force regime change without
Speaker 1: actually having to fire a single bloody shot at Maduro.
Speaker 1: That's really what's actually going on here. As far as
Speaker 1: what happens to the oil, the actual oil on that boat,
Speaker 1: Donald J. Trump, as he often does, had a pretty
Speaker 1: humorous answer, go ahead and watch this.
Speaker 2: Ship. Well we keep it. I guess when you have
Speaker 2: to follow the tanker. You know here a good judgment.
Speaker 2: Just follow the tanker, follow follow it. Good. A helicopter
Speaker 2: followed the tanker. We're going to get assume we're going
Speaker 2: to keep the I.
Speaker 1: Mean, I mean, sometimes, how do you not love this man?
Speaker 1: I I mean sometimes I just laughed so hard at
Speaker 1: Donald Trump. But I've said this so many times of
Speaker 1: the years. It is one of Donald Trump's great political
Speaker 1: gifts is the fact that he is just a slapstick,
Speaker 1: slap your knee kind of funny man. He says of humor.
Speaker 1: Is is something that that politically sustains him from voter
Speaker 1: to voter, and frankly, he's been doing this now for
Speaker 1: the better hard of fifty fifty five years in the
Speaker 1: tabloids when not there, it's really what sustains him oftentimes
Speaker 1: from generation to generation as well. Meanwhile, the Department of
Speaker 1: Homeland Security, the head the secretary there, Chrissy Noam, also
Speaker 1: had this essay on Fox News about the Venezuelan tanker
Speaker 1: seizure and what was.
Speaker 2: DHS's involvement in the seizing of that oil tanker of
Speaker 2: Venezuela yesterday.
Speaker 3: It was a Coast Guard light operation, so they worked
Speaker 3: very closely with the Department of War and Department Justice FBI.
Speaker 2: We're thankful that we have an opportunity to push back
Speaker 2: on that.
Speaker 1: Regime, all right, so she's talking there about the regime,
Speaker 1: the regime being the Maduro regime. Now who is Nicholas
Speaker 1: Mudua Now Nicholas Mudurero is Some folks to call him
Speaker 1: a socialist. I preferred to his call him a communist,
Speaker 1: a dirty commedy. He is the successor to Ugo Chappez,
Speaker 1: his predecessor, who was a Castro esque, a close Castro ally,
Speaker 1: a deeply horrific socialist communist leader there in Venezuela. Hugo
Speaker 1: Chapas overseeing the plummeting the descent of Venezuela from one
Speaker 1: of the wealthiest Latin American countries. Venezuela blessed with tremendous
Speaker 1: natural resources. Natural resources is that no other Latin American
Speaker 1: country really has really none of them, Peru, Paraguay, Argentina, Brazil,
Speaker 1: you name it, none, None of them have the oil
Speaker 1: reserves that Venezuela has there right off the coast. It
Speaker 1: is a remarkable blessing for the people of Venezuela, or
Speaker 1: at least it should be. It should be unlessoned until
Speaker 1: communism takes holt. And that is why Venezuela now has
Speaker 1: become a Third World. Horrific poverty, state, overrun by the cartels,
Speaker 1: overrun by by foreign influence, overrun by China, has bala Aran.
Speaker 1: The people are are totally skinny. You see the photos there,
Speaker 1: they are emaciated. They're all skin and bones. You see
Speaker 1: the rib cages they're they're eating dog and eating all
Speaker 1: sorts of other stuff there. They can't even get enough
Speaker 1: foods to actually put food on the table to feed
Speaker 1: their family. It is yet another lesson, as if you
Speaker 1: need it, as to why socials and communism are just
Speaker 1: complete and utter nonstarters when it comes to to how
Speaker 1: to structure an economy, A complete and utter nonstarter because
Speaker 1: there is no one who suffers more from socialists and
Speaker 1: communist utopian schemes actually implemented into reality. There was no
Speaker 1: one who suffers more than the actual people themselves. I've
Speaker 1: never been to it as well. I actually have been
Speaker 1: to Cuba. I was in Cuba actually in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 1: I kind of reluctantly went and I saw it, and
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe sometimes what I saw the level of
Speaker 1: communist propaganda, like literal highway billboard style propaganda, social sl
Speaker 1: foot threro, socialism, the fees, the future, these images of
Speaker 1: chay Gavara, and again just the poverty I mean, the dilapidated
Speaker 1: buildings at the time in Havana, just the people just
Speaker 1: homeless and searching for food everywhere that can find it,
Speaker 1: the stray dogs, I mean, just awful, just awful, awful stuff.
Speaker 1: And then as well of it very much is another
Speaker 1: example of that.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: The actual reason though that Trump and the administration cares
Speaker 1: so much about the Maduro regime and trying to have
Speaker 1: this pressure campaign trying to get the Maduro regime ultimately
Speaker 1: step down, ideally to abdicate without having to fire an
Speaker 1: actual single shot. The reason for that is not necessarily
Speaker 1: because they are Samantha Power esque liberal internationalist humanitarians. To
Speaker 1: be clear, we all care when people around the world
Speaker 1: are suffering, and Donald Trump has said some wonderful things
Speaker 1: about the plights of Christians who are currently being genocided
Speaker 1: by Boko Haram and various other islamust actors there in
Speaker 1: Nigeria in Western Africa. So there's I'm not downplaying the
Speaker 1: basic human emotion that comes with seeing other people suffering,
Speaker 1: but the main reason just calling it like I see,
Speaker 1: I mean, the main objective reason why the truministration cares
Speaker 1: about what's happening in Venezuela is not necessarily for human rights
Speaker 1: or humanitarian reasons. Rather, it is because of pressing national
Speaker 1: security reasons. And that's because everything from Iran and has Bola,
Speaker 1: as we just discussed, to the Chinese Communist Party via
Speaker 1: their Belt and Roate initiative, which is this sprawling twenty
Speaker 1: first century geopolitical framework by which the Chinese Communist Party
Speaker 1: is seeking to increase its clout, increases clout and influence
Speaker 1: all throughout the world, everywhere from China through Central Asia
Speaker 1: into Europe. That's kind of the older Marco Polo Silk Road,
Speaker 1: all the way to the Horn of Africa. China building
Speaker 1: a naval base in Djibouti in the Horne of Africa,
Speaker 1: right near Eeritrea and Ethiopia. And yes, they are very
Speaker 1: deeply heavily involved in our own hemisphere as well. The
Speaker 1: Chinese Communist Party has made major major investments in ports
Speaker 1: and other maritime naval infrastructure in countries such as Peru
Speaker 1: on the Pacific coast of South America. They are extremely
Speaker 1: extremely cozy, as you might expect with the Communist regime.
Speaker 1: The Castro regimes to this day still in Cuba, very
Speaker 1: close to where I am currently speaking here in South Florida.
Speaker 1: China is all over and they are very very very
Speaker 1: close with the Maduro regime in Venezuela as well. In fact,
Speaker 1: a recent phone call that she Jimpang, the Chinese Communist Party,
Speaker 1: had Hancho, the recent phone call that she had with
Speaker 1: Maduro in Venezuela, basically doubling down and saying that, bro,
Speaker 1: We've got your back. Essentially no matter what, so China
Speaker 1: has has doubled down on this port from Madero. Lamar
Speaker 1: Putin incidentally has done the exact same thing from his
Speaker 1: perch over and over in the Kremlin. And that is
Speaker 1: why the trumpministration comes in there and says, no, I'm
Speaker 1: actually not gonna support this, This is not okay. This
Speaker 1: has actually been part of the doctrine of this second
Speaker 1: trumministration since the get go. Think about the fact that
Speaker 1: Marco Rubio himself is the Secretary of State, Marca Rubio,
Speaker 1: who rose to political prominence right here in South Florida
Speaker 1: where I now live, Marca Rubio, who is himself the
Speaker 1: son of Cuban refugees, someone who has a very very
Speaker 1: keen set of eyes and ears when it comes to
Speaker 1: Latin America more broadly, if you're called to January. This
Speaker 1: past January, Rubio's first overseas trip was actually to Latin America.
Speaker 1: The Waltree Journal had a whole op at the time
Speaker 1: from their Lantin affairs columnist Anastasio Grady. She had a
Speaker 1: whole column talking about how this is the reassertion of
Speaker 1: the Monroe doctrine for the twenty first century when it
Speaker 1: comes to Trump with Mark Rubio, the son of Cuban
Speaker 1: refugees and a fluent Spanish language speaker there as kind
Speaker 1: of the symbolic and figurative head of this. So what
Speaker 1: exactly is Monroe doctrine and how does it relate to
Speaker 1: what we are now seeing play out with the Trump
Speaker 1: ministration and their approach to Latin America more broadly and
Speaker 1: also to Venezuela specifically. So the Monroe doctrine takes his
Speaker 1: name from James Monroe, who was the early nineteenth century
Speaker 1: president and a pretty good one of that and underappreciated president,
Speaker 1: I would argue by some historians, and he essentially argued
Speaker 1: that when a foreign state intervenes in the political affairs
Speaker 1: of the Americas more broadly North and South America. When
Speaker 1: there is a foreign state, which at the time really
Speaker 1: meant Europe, when there is a foreign aka European political
Speaker 1: intervention meddling in the internal affairs of the Americas, then
Speaker 1: that should be viewed as a potentially hostile act against
Speaker 1: the United States, a potentially hostile act against the United States. Now,
Speaker 1: that is that was followed, that was expanded upon in
Speaker 1: nineteen oh four during the Teddy Roosevelt administration with a
Speaker 1: doctrine that is known as the Roosevelt corollary. So the
Speaker 1: Roosevelt Corollary, prolengated by President Teddy Roosevelt in nineteen oh four,
Speaker 1: says that the United States could legitimately directly intervene directly
Speaker 1: intervene in the internal affairs of Latin American countries if
Speaker 1: they do not do enough to prevent foreign aggression, which
Speaker 1: at the time again means European aggression. But by the
Speaker 1: same logic, this could extend to any kind of aggression.
Speaker 1: Today that would be Russia, China, and Iran namely above all. Now,
Speaker 1: the most interesting kind of update for this is is
Speaker 1: this we haven't actually get covered on the show. So
Speaker 1: the trudministration just recently put out their brand new National
Speaker 1: Security Strategy. So administrations, whether it's on an annual or
Speaker 1: sometimes a biennial basis, they will periodically produce what is
Speaker 1: known as a National Security Strategy, which is a fairly systemic,
Speaker 1: thirty forty fifty document just laying out how the presidential
Speaker 1: administration views the world, how they view foreign policy, how
Speaker 1: they view national security, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 1: There are a lot of good footprints from folks in
Speaker 1: the state departments on this most recent document. I know
Speaker 1: some of the folks involved, and I won't say names,
Speaker 1: but I think pretty highly of these folks there, so
Speaker 1: that there's a lot to like about this National Security
Speaker 1: Strategy document that just came out from the Trump ministration.
Speaker 1: There are some reasons, at least to be somewhat skeptical.
Speaker 1: There is something of a bolstering of the legitimacy of
Speaker 1: the Chinese Communist Party when it comes to having their
Speaker 1: own purported, legitimate sphere of influence. I could do without that, frankly,
Speaker 1: and I could do with a little more of trying
Speaker 1: to bolster or actual analyze in the Indo Pacific. When
Speaker 1: it comes to Japan, Philippines, Taiwan to you know, extra
Speaker 1: playing even further places like India and Australia.
Speaker 2: Let's table that for now.
Speaker 1: We'll have more on the Chinese Communist Party and NVIDI
Speaker 1: and all that on tomorrow's show, I think, but for
Speaker 1: now I want to focus on this. In the recent
Speaker 1: Trump National Security Strategy, they explicitly introduce what they refer
Speaker 1: to as the Trump corollary to the Munroe doctrines. So
Speaker 1: we're actually no longer just talking about the Roosevelt corollary,
Speaker 1: the eponymous corollary of President Teddy Roosevelt from nineteen oh four. Now,
Speaker 1: per the National Security strategies, brand new language, and this
Speaker 1: just came out within the past like week and a half,
Speaker 1: two weeks, they're referring actually explicitly now, so they're kind
Speaker 1: of retroactively justifying these series of Pete heggsth led narco
Speaker 1: strikes and now presumably also this brand new Venezuelan oil
Speaker 1: tanker seizure. They're justifying this on the Trump corollary. So
Speaker 1: here's how the Trump ministrations National Security Strategy talks about
Speaker 1: the Trump corollary to the Monroe doctrine.
Speaker 2: It says as follows.
Speaker 1: Quote after years of neglect, the United States will reassert
Speaker 1: and enforce the Monroe Doctrine to restore American pre eminence
Speaker 1: in the Western Hemisphere and to protect our homeland and
Speaker 1: our access to key Ggosh graphies throughout the region. We
Speaker 1: will deny non hemispheric competitors. Note that language. This is
Speaker 1: aside from me non hemispheric competitors. So that's on the
Speaker 1: twenty first century update to the original Munroe doctrins emphasis
Speaker 1: on European. So we're talking here about non hemispheric. That
Speaker 1: means not just European, that means also Iranian, Russian, Chinese,
Speaker 1: and so forth. Okay, back to the security strategy quote,
Speaker 1: we will deny non hemispheric competitors the ability to position
Speaker 1: forces or other threatening capabilities, or to own or control
Speaker 1: strategically vital assets in our hemisphere. The Trump corollary to
Speaker 1: the Monroe doctrine is a common sense and potent restoration
Speaker 1: of American power and priorities consistent with American security interest.
Speaker 1: So there's a lot to like here. There is a
Speaker 1: lot to like about this. The most basic reason why
Speaker 1: the Monroe doctrine, the Rosevel corollary, and now the Trump corollary,
Speaker 1: The most basic reason why this makes sense is because
Speaker 1: it's just really freaking intuitive. You don't have to have
Speaker 1: a PhD in international fairs or public diplomacy to understand
Speaker 1: then when it comes to our own backyard, like our
Speaker 1: literal own hemisphere, yeah, we should probably care a little
Speaker 1: bit more and taking a more hyperactive, more aggressive approach
Speaker 1: to preventing hostile foreign intrusion. It's often been said that
Speaker 1: America is blessed with geography, and so we are from
Speaker 1: seat to shining sea. We have major bodies of water,
Speaker 1: gargantuan global oceans on both our west coast and our
Speaker 1: east coast. That's amazing. We have a failed Narco state, however,
Speaker 1: to our south, and there are plenty of other failed
Speaker 1: or deeply troubled states even further to Mexico south, and
Speaker 1: we have a reason for reasons of basic proximity and
Speaker 1: geography when it comes to the international human trafficking rings,
Speaker 1: when it comes to the drug cartels, when it comes
Speaker 1: to the transnational shipping of fentanyl and cocaine, the de
Speaker 1: facto chemical warfare flowing into the United States, killing untold,
Speaker 1: untold thousands or millions by now millions and millions, and
Speaker 1: millions of Americans there. We absolutely ought to care more
Speaker 1: about what is happening south of're a border in this
Speaker 1: own hemisphere for the most part of than what is
Speaker 1: happening halfway or fully around the world. I am a
Speaker 1: longtime proponent of the Monroe doctrine and these various corollaries
Speaker 1: for the very simple reason that it just makes sense,
Speaker 1: and that broadly is how the administration views this as well.
Speaker 1: They are they are talking out about the Trump corollary. Now,
Speaker 1: how long is this going to go on?
Speaker 2: That?
Speaker 1: That's kind of my question. I'm very supportive of the strategy.
Speaker 1: I've got no qualms whatsoever with this oil tanker seizure.
Speaker 1: Is it an escalatory action? Yeah, I mean it's definitely
Speaker 1: not de escalatory. Do I support it? Hecky, I support it.
Speaker 1: I mean, this ship was already sanctioned three years ago.
Speaker 1: There was legal justification there. It was a swift, smooth operation.
Speaker 1: There were there were there were no there were no casualties,
Speaker 1: no tragedies anything like that.
Speaker 2: There.
Speaker 1: It is deeply humilitating for Nicholas Muduro. It is deeply
Speaker 1: humiliating for all of his allies from China to Hezbola
Speaker 1: and so forth. There and yeah, as President Trump says,
Speaker 1: we got the oil, which is always nice to try
Speaker 1: to reduce prices from a good old fashioned econ one
Speaker 1: one supplied demand curve as well.
Speaker 2: So there's a lot to like about this.
Speaker 1: My only question is how much longer is this cat
Speaker 1: and mouse game gonna go on when it comes to
Speaker 1: President Trump and Nicholas Maduro. Maduro, for what it's worth,
Speaker 1: doesn't seem to particularly care too much about all this
Speaker 1: pressure that Donald Trump is putting on him. There is
Speaker 1: this utterly hilarious new video that I was looking out
Speaker 1: this morning and just frankly just laughing my butt off
Speaker 1: to myself with Madua wearing this really funny like old
Speaker 1: man straw hat and he starts speaking of Spanish, and
Speaker 1: then he starts speaking in English. Don't worry be happy,
Speaker 1: like trying to conjure up the best of Bob Marley,
Speaker 1: Try trying to tell his you know he deeply oppressed
Speaker 1: dog eating constituents. You need if you even call them constituents,
Speaker 1: they are subjects in a communist tyranny. Try and tell
Speaker 1: them like, don't worry, be happy. So I mean, he
Speaker 1: clearly is unfazed. He clearly does not or at least publicly.
Speaker 1: He doesn't really give a crab about what's happening there.
Speaker 1: He's very much struggling at home. I do hear secondhand
Speaker 1: from a lot of folks who are veterans of the DEA,
Speaker 1: the Drugonforce, and agency groups like that, that they are
Speaker 1: not entirely sure exactly what is President Trump's endgame here
Speaker 1: when it comes to Venezuela. Now, if you take the
Speaker 1: Monroe Doctrine and the Roosevelt Corrollarry at face value, it
Speaker 1: is worth noting that at face value they do justify
Speaker 1: up to an including actual military action. I guess the
Speaker 1: point would be this is that, mister President, I'm not
Speaker 1: entirely sure that this is exactly what your voters voted for.
Speaker 2: Either.
Speaker 1: I'm not entirely sure that supporting the attempt to topple
Speaker 1: another corrupt Latin American regime is exactly what a lot
Speaker 1: of Trump's voters supported. Now, on the one hand, we
Speaker 1: are robust supporters here of the Monroe doctri We are
Speaker 1: robust supporters of the notion of caring more about the
Speaker 1: Western hemisphere than virtually any other place around the world
Speaker 1: for obvious intuitive reasons. I'm just not entirely sure that
Speaker 1: if push comes to shove, if another Bay of Pigs
Speaker 1: invasion in style operation is necessary, is necessarily something that
Speaker 1: will redound to our interest.
Speaker 2: We'll see.
Speaker 1: All I'm saying is that America has the doctrine, and
Speaker 1: Corollari is nowithstanding. America has a very long and checkered,
Speaker 1: I think will be a charitable way of putting it,
Speaker 1: a very long and very checkered history when it comes
Speaker 1: to trying to impose regime chains, color revolutions, or actual
Speaker 1: toping of dictators when it comes to Latin America. So
Speaker 1: I'm somewhat cautious, somewhat wary of that. Anything short of that,
Speaker 1: basically though, I think is totally fair game. And certainly
Speaker 1: this venezuela and oil tanker seizure is definitely an escalation.
Speaker 1: We'll see how Madua responds. He hasn't really necessarily done
Speaker 1: a whole lot to respond yet, other than basically just
Speaker 1: telling his oppressed people who don't worry, be happy, which
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if they're doing, because they're definitely worrying
Speaker 1: and they're definitely not happy. But I guess we'll see
Speaker 1: how that plays out. In other news, the mayor of Minneapolis.
Speaker 1: What an utter and utter buffoon, What an absolute utter buffoon.
Speaker 1: We've been talking for a while on this show about
Speaker 1: about the growing threats of Islamisation of America, the two
Speaker 1: eyes Islamization and immigration, and the toxic intersection thereof the
Speaker 1: Somali fraud in Minneapolis, which is shaping out to be
Speaker 1: the largest bilking of the taxpayer, likely in the in
Speaker 1: the entire history of the United States. Minneapolis is very
Speaker 1: much ground zero of this. But I mean, I saw
Speaker 1: this company. I just couldn't believe this. I mean, the
Speaker 1: mayor of Minneapolis, not only is he unfazed at how
Speaker 1: Somalis and Muslims have just totally taken over the Twin Cities,
Speaker 1: he seems to be darn proud of it.
Speaker 2: Go ahead and watch this.
Speaker 4: I wanted to talk to you about a few issues
Speaker 4: that are important for me, both what we have done
Speaker 4: and also what we're going to do. I was the
Speaker 4: first mayor in the entire country to allow for call
Speaker 4: to prayer in Aadan five times a day.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, let's clap like seals. Bullets, Let's clap like seals.
Speaker 1: Because this purportedly putatively Jewish guy that's the mayor of Minneapolis.
Speaker 1: He's allegedly Jewish, who is bragging about how I'm the
Speaker 1: first guy to allow the call to prayer five times
Speaker 1: a day?
Speaker 2: What is wrong with you?
Speaker 1: Did you have any appreciation of what America is? When
Speaker 1: America is not? Do you have any understanding of what
Speaker 1: built this country? I mean to say that they're clueless
Speaker 1: in Minnesota, I think is an understatement. By the way
Speaker 1: Tim Walls one thing that he's done, and I hope
Speaker 1: that Tim Walls ends up in jail to be clear,
Speaker 1: from this whole Somali fraud thing. He has been profoundly complicit.
Speaker 1: Scott is sand and the Treasury Treasury Department, they are
Speaker 1: currently investing in the extent to which Tim Walls Illino
Speaker 1: Omar all these various other Minnesota leaders, the Attorney General
Speaker 1: Keith Ellison, and Muslim brotherhood Stoge. They are currently looking
Speaker 1: into the extent to which all these idiots were complicit
Speaker 1: in builking the tax payer. There another thing under the
Speaker 1: radar that Tim Waltz has done that hasn't gone a
Speaker 1: whole lot of attention. I actually only knows myself. When
Speaker 1: I went Minnesota for the first time in August to
Speaker 1: visit my buddy who's got a lake house there, and
Speaker 1: we were playing golf at his club and I saw
Speaker 1: the state flag in Minnesota. I was like, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: that's not the state flag that I remember, because I
Speaker 1: used to know all the state flags just come like
Speaker 1: a nerdy thing I used to know. And the new
Speaker 1: state flag of Minnesota, which Tim Walls has himself signed
Speaker 1: to law, has a shocking resemblance to the Somaldi flag.
Speaker 1: Literally after the show's over, go ahead and google google
Speaker 1: Minnesota flag Somali flag. You'll see the same star. I
Speaker 1: think that's deliberate. I don't think that that is purely coincidental.
Speaker 1: So anyway, the mayor there just bragging bringing about how
Speaker 1: he's basically just just running rough shot over his own
Speaker 1: citizens by blasting this highly obnoxious call to prayer from
Speaker 1: the minarest of the mosque fought five times a day.
Speaker 1: And by the way, the first called a prayer is
Speaker 1: really freaking early in the morning. Guess what. I wake
Speaker 1: up early in the morning too. This is literally on
Speaker 1: yesterday's show. I wake up nowadays around five am. I'm
Speaker 1: instant sinding God. By six am or just thereafter there.
Speaker 1: Guess what, I don't need a call to prayer to
Speaker 1: wake up half the city around me.
Speaker 2: It's called an alarm clock.
Speaker 1: I'm not entirely sure why that's not good for all
Speaker 1: of the world's religions, but apparently the mayor of Minnesota
Speaker 1: is bragging about the fact that the Mosques are waking
Speaker 1: up half a city in the wee hours of the morning.
Speaker 2: Just just unbelievable stuff.
Speaker 1: I mean, to be clear, the call of prayer is
Speaker 1: frankly the least of our concerns. I mean, there are
Speaker 1: a much more profound concerns when it comes to the
Speaker 1: compatibility or lack thereof, of the so called religion of
Speaker 1: peace and these United States of America. The shocking poll
Speaker 1: that we mentioned on this show that was taken less
Speaker 1: than three weeks after October seven, twenty twenty three, showing
Speaker 1: that fifty seven point five percent of American Muslims felt
Speaker 1: that the Hamas program or the Nazi esque slaughter on
Speaker 1: that terrible day, they thought that it was either justified
Speaker 1: or somewhat justified. Fifty seven point five percent of American Muslims,
Speaker 1: I mean muslim is similar. Assimilation to America is not
Speaker 1: going well. I mean, understatement of the freaking century, and
Speaker 1: here we have the mayor Minnesota, who is being a
Speaker 1: chess and pretends like he's proud of the fact that
Speaker 1: he's the first mayor to just have this called a
Speaker 1: prayer of five times to day. What I mean to
Speaker 1: call this man a useful idiot, I think would be
Speaker 1: unduly praiseworthy. He is a scoundrel and a fool, and
Speaker 1: and I frankly wish him nothing.
Speaker 2: But the absolute worst.
Speaker 1: Incidentally, one of the individuals who has been, or I
Speaker 1: should say, who was sounding the loudest alarm in all
Speaker 1: of the commentarias and all of the chattering class when
Speaker 1: it comes to the threats of Islam and the notion
Speaker 1: that Islam is simply not categorically compatible with the United States.
Speaker 1: I say categorically because some individuals fine, but as talking
Speaker 1: here in categories, okay, the notion that Islam is not
Speaker 1: categorically compatible. One of the loudest voices on this was
Speaker 1: the late Charlie Kirk. We discussed this on Charlie's show.
Speaker 1: We discussed it at his private, off record, now infamous
Speaker 1: retreat that he organized in the Hamptons in August, the
Speaker 1: one that's been the subject of so much conspiracy. Charlie
Speaker 1: was all in on the notion that Islam and immigration
Speaker 1: are not compatible. And one of the reasons that Charlie
Speaker 1: was so adamant that Islam is not compatible with the
Speaker 1: United States is because Charlie correctly understood America to be
Speaker 1: a biblical nation to be founded, as is often said
Speaker 1: in the Timeless Eternal Truths, Principles and Ideals of the Bible,
Speaker 1: of the Jeo Christian Tradition, the Hebrew Bible, the New Testament,
Speaker 1: all of it. Charlie himself, even though he was an
Speaker 1: Evangelic Christian, closely closely studied the Hebrew Bible, the tour
Speaker 1: of the Books of Moses above all. In fact, one
Speaker 1: of things that Charlie Kirk did was he actually turned
Speaker 1: his phone off. He turned his phone off when Orthodox
Speaker 1: Jews like myself do from Friday Night to Sauray Knights.
Speaker 1: He observed his version, their family observed their version of
Speaker 1: the Sabbath. It's an amazing, amazing thing. And his new
Speaker 1: book out Stopped in the Name of God, talks about
Speaker 1: it now. His grieving widow, Erica Kirk, has been making
Speaker 1: the media rounds for the past few days and probably
Speaker 1: for the next few to guests as well, talking about,
Speaker 1: among other things, the release of this book, which has
Speaker 1: been sold out on Amazon. Hopefully they restock. I personally
Speaker 1: know what that feels like. My own book earlier this
Speaker 1: year was out of stock on Amazon the morning of
Speaker 1: publication day.
Speaker 2: Not a great feeling. We'll hold that story for another day.
Speaker 1: So eric Kirk has been making the rounds, and among
Speaker 1: the things that she did, I mean, this is really
Speaker 1: amazing stuff. She finally comes out swinging, finally again some
Speaker 1: of just the utterly unhinged conspiracy theories I've been flying
Speaker 1: against her Turning Point USA, yours truly, and so many others.
Speaker 2: Here is Erica Kirk.
Speaker 3: Come after me, call me names, I don't care, call
Speaker 3: me what you want, go down that rabbit hole, whatever.
Speaker 3: But when you go after my family, my Turning Point
Speaker 3: USA family, my Charlie Kirk Show family, when you go
Speaker 3: after the people that I love, and you're making hundreds
Speaker 3: and thousands of dollars every single episode going after the
Speaker 3: people that I love because somehow they're in on this.
Speaker 2: No, you know, I have to say it. I've never
Speaker 2: seen you like that.
Speaker 3: No, I'm I'm very this is righteous anger, because this
Speaker 3: is not Okay, it's not healthy. This is a mind virus. Yes,
Speaker 3: I believe in our judic jewdicial system. I do. We
Speaker 3: have a hell of a team working on this. Excuse
Speaker 3: my French, but this is not okay.
Speaker 2: So strong stuff there.
Speaker 1: From Erica Kirk with Harris Faulkner on out Numbered over
Speaker 1: on Fox News. You see the deep root of frustration.
Speaker 1: You see the anger in her eyes. A little bit
Speaker 1: more actually for now from America Krk. Go ahead and
Speaker 1: watch this clip as well.
Speaker 3: Your words are very powerful, and we are human. My
Speaker 3: team are not machines and they're not robots. They are human.
Speaker 3: We have more death threats on our team and our
Speaker 3: side than I have ever seen. I have kidnapping threats,
Speaker 3: I have you name it, we have it. And my
Speaker 3: poor team is exhausted. And every time they bring this
Speaker 3: back up, what are we supposed to do relive that
Speaker 3: trauma all over again. They watched my husband get murdered.
Speaker 3: I have no idea how I would have reacted if
Speaker 3: I was there that day, and think the good Lord
Speaker 3: that I did not have to see that happen. But
Speaker 3: my team, they are rocked the core. So why every
Speaker 3: single day did they have to be dragged through the mud, analyzed,
Speaker 3: hyper analyzed. This is a duty to my husband and
Speaker 3: it's an absolute honor, and I will never back down.
Speaker 3: And so my message to them is to stop, to stop.
Speaker 2: Really powerful stuff.
Speaker 1: You know, it was either in that interview or in
Speaker 1: a different interview as well, that Erica Kirk actually cited
Speaker 1: a somewhat lesser known portion of the Book of Niamiah
Speaker 1: from the Hebrew Bible, basically trying to explain why she
Speaker 1: was she's been too focused on building on her late
Speaker 1: husband's legacy rather than responding to all of the noise there.
Speaker 1: So frankly, the fact that she was able to cite
Speaker 1: the Book of Nehemaya to me is just deeply impressive.
Speaker 3: There.
Speaker 1: You don't necessarily walk and meet a ton of Christians
Speaker 1: or Jews for that matter, who are able to just
Speaker 1: freely cite the Book of Niamayah. So that was really
Speaker 1: really great to hear as well. Look, all of the
Speaker 1: very strands of this story are now reaching something of
Speaker 1: a head. Erga Kirk speaking out for the first time
Speaker 1: really in these now three months since Charlie's untimely and
Speaker 1: horrific assassination about the unhinged lunatic conspiracy theories from the
Speaker 1: likes of Candice Owens and all of our various fellow
Speaker 1: travelers there. Meanwhile, today also Tyler Robinson, the alleged but
Speaker 1: I guess we'll editorialize and say likely all but assuredly
Speaker 1: assassin of Charlie Kirk, making his first in person court
Speaker 1: appearance day in Provo, Utah. Robinson is being charged with
Speaker 1: aggravated murder and a series of other related felonies, all
Speaker 1: in connection with his alleged but again I will say
Speaker 1: likely in but assured assassination of Charlie Kirk on September
Speaker 1: tenth at the Chemist Events in Utah at Utah Valley University.
Speaker 2: So it's all coming to a head. Robinson is in court.
Speaker 1: There's been a lot of back and forth, by the way,
Speaker 1: trying to figure out the extent to which the judge
Speaker 1: is acting properly and trying to make a lot of
Speaker 1: these preceding secrets, trying to protect privacy rights for what
Speaker 1: it's worth. Erica Kirk herself has been critical of that,
Speaker 1: actually has said that no more of this should be public.
Speaker 1: A lot of other media organizations as well have called
Speaker 1: for more transparency. This is one of the longstanding given
Speaker 1: takes of trials is you always have this back and
Speaker 1: forth between folks who are more sympathetic towards criminal defendants
Speaker 1: when it comes to privacy rights than when it comes
Speaker 1: to the public interest, more transparency. I frankly, you actually
Speaker 1: see the same kind of tension play out when it
Speaker 1: comes to debates over whether or not the US Supreme
Speaker 1: Court should actually televise their oral arguments, which to this
Speaker 1: day they actually do not do. So there's ultate detensions
Speaker 1: there which are content side. But Tyle Robinson is making
Speaker 1: his first physical in court appearance today, personally, assuming that
Speaker 1: he is found guilty, which I have a little doubt
Speaker 1: that he will be. I hope that he is executed asap. None, none,
Speaker 1: none of this bs None of these years and years
Speaker 1: and decades of the of these overly frivolous appeals when
Speaker 1: it comes to it, when it comes to uh, you know,
Speaker 1: this petition or that petition or habeas corpus or just
Speaker 1: trying to rig the system when it comes to the
Speaker 1: ACL you and all these various liberal left wing legal NGOs.
Speaker 2: No, it's garbage. It's horrible.
Speaker 1: I hate, hate, hate the fact that the death penalty
Speaker 1: in this country takes decades to execute. Okay, yes, you
Speaker 1: have your appeal obviously, that is that as part of
Speaker 1: due process, you have your day in court. No one
Speaker 1: is trying to deny your right to appeal, and you
Speaker 1: can appeal that for legitimately as long as as a
Speaker 1: legal system takes. But the notion that someone like a
Speaker 1: Tyler Robinson, the notion that someone like a Jokar Zarnayev
Speaker 1: the Boston Marathon bar that these people can just rot
Speaker 1: on death row for decades and decades. What why if
Speaker 1: you are guilty of the most terrific crimes and you've
Speaker 1: had your legitimate appeal, then execute the son of a
Speaker 1: you know what do it?
Speaker 2: I mean, for what it's worth.
Speaker 1: I will say now something that I said on television
Speaker 1: shortly after Charlie's assassination. Charlie was a friend, as the
Speaker 1: viewers likely know, I said a Newsmax shortly after his assassination.
Speaker 1: Utah is actually one of the only states in the
Speaker 1: country that still has firing squad as a possible option
Speaker 1: when it comes to when it comes to death. If
Speaker 1: someone is actually legitimately sentenced to death, I said on TV,
Speaker 1: then I will reiterate now that if that day comes,
Speaker 1: and if it's not the lethal injection or some other
Speaker 1: form of execution, if it's the actual firing squad, I
Speaker 1: will gladly volunteer to fly out to Utah with my
Speaker 1: rifle be part of that. That is how strongly I
Speaker 1: believe in legitimate, just capital punishment, assuming you've been found guilty, convicted,
Speaker 1: gone off through the ranks of appeal, et cetera, et cetera,
Speaker 1: et cetera. I genuinely, honestly do feel the way and
Speaker 1: believe in that. The arguably though even more important point
Speaker 1: is this, her appeal has to be heard.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: I've actually been encouraged looking at social media over the
Speaker 1: past twenty four to forty six hours, it seems like
Speaker 1: the message is coming out. I'm not sure exactly what happened,
Speaker 1: as seems to me like maybe someone in Turning Point
Speaker 1: sent out either a formal message blast, some sort of memo,
Speaker 1: or an informal kind of blast text message, slack channel.
Speaker 1: I'm not privy to this, I'm not part of this
Speaker 1: particular text message or slack channel if it exists, but
Speaker 1: the memo has gone out, whether officially or unofficially, that
Speaker 1: we are no longer tolerating these conspiracy theories. Tim Poole
Speaker 1: incidentally went on an extraordinary, an expletive filled, but extraordinary
Speaker 1: rant against the unhinged conspiracist Candice Owens earlier this week.
Speaker 1: You should go ahead and check that out over at
Speaker 1: Tim Poole's channel. I was really encouraged to see that
Speaker 1: I was on Tim Poole's show a few months ago.
Speaker 1: I don't really know that Tim Poole is necessarily exactly
Speaker 1: where I'm at these issues, so that was really encouraging
Speaker 1: to say. I saw Megan Kelly actually tweeting out her
Speaker 1: showlengk or something something like that there, and all the replies,
Speaker 1: even from very very maga accounts like cat Turd, the
Speaker 1: replies were all essentially telling Megan, no one cares what
Speaker 1: you have to say on this. Tell us that you
Speaker 1: will condemn candae Owns, which is amazing. So clearly the
Speaker 1: message is getting out there that this stuff is not okay, folks.
Speaker 1: There is nothing wrong in an a. In fact, there
Speaker 1: was much to be said in praised when there are
Speaker 1: legitimate doubts about asking questions to make sure you actually
Speaker 1: have the truth of the matter. This is the scientific
Speaker 1: method that you learn about in elementary school, just basic
Speaker 1: human inquiry. Basic human inquiry has advanced a lot of
Speaker 1: knowledge throughout the entire course of human history. That is
Speaker 1: a far cry from accusing innocent people like me, accusing
Speaker 1: organizations like Charlie's own turning Point USA, like accusing his wife,
Speaker 1: his widow of what, of being involved in his assassination
Speaker 1: when we know, beyond the shadow of a doubt, if
Speaker 1: I can editorialize again that it was this left wing,
Speaker 1: transgender adjacent, furry fetishist, lapsed Mormon left the fanatic with
Speaker 1: the lyrics to bellet show on his bullets, that was
Speaker 1: that monster who pulled the trigger? Why are you doing this?
Speaker 1: Is it literally all for clicks? Are clicks worth selling
Speaker 1: your soul? Is Katari money or Russian money, whatever, whatever
Speaker 1: the heck the case may be, Is that worth selling
Speaker 1: your soul? It's disgusting, It is abhorrent and is disgusting,
Speaker 1: and it has real ramifications. But when I was in
Speaker 1: Europe at a conference in October, they arrested someone in
Speaker 1: Texas for issuing online death threats against me and a
Speaker 1: few others here in Florida, namely Carol Marquitz Seth Dillon
Speaker 1: and Laura Lumer. That individual has posted bond from the
Speaker 1: Palm Beach County, Florida jail. He cannot have internet access,
Speaker 1: no mobile phone, twenty four to seven ankle monitor.
Speaker 2: All that there.
Speaker 1: The point is that these things, as I know personally now,
Speaker 1: have real consequences when it comes to security, when it
Speaker 1: comes to reputation, and above all, most importantly, when it
Speaker 1: comes to whether or not you can go to sleep
Speaker 1: at night, whether one day you will face your maker
Speaker 1: on the prespoe of entering the world to come, and
Speaker 1: you will be made accountable.
Speaker 2: You will have to answer for what you did in
Speaker 2: this world. Each and every day.
Speaker 1: You should go about your life making sure that you
Speaker 1: are ready to answer those questions and say, Lord, I
Speaker 1: have done my service, I have done my deeds, and
Speaker 1: I have not not violated your commandments. Candice Owens and
Speaker 1: folks like that, not only do they belong in a mental.
Speaker 2: Institution, which they do.
Speaker 1: They have a lot of repentance to do as well.
Speaker 1: I pray for them, truly, I really do. But for now,
Speaker 1: Erica Kirk's words should be heard in clarion, clarion voice
Speaker 1: from sea to shining sea, God willing they will be
Speaker 1: doing exactly that well as a minor. Folks, make sure
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