1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: Erica Kirk finally hits back against the insane conspiracists who 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 1: are sowing massive discord on the American rights. Meanwhile, a 3 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:11,719 Speaker 1: tanker sees off the coast of Venezuela. Things are deeply 4 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: heating up here in this Western hemisphere. What doesn't mean for 5 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: a Trump foreign policy? All of that, much more in 6 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: today's episode of The Josh Hammer Show. Well Erica Kirk, 7 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: the widow of Charlie Kirk, finally breaking her silence and 8 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: smashing in no uncertain terms the unhinged conspiracists, the utter, mental, lunatic, insane, 9 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 1: asylum worthy loombacks who have been saying some of the 10 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 1: most backcraf crazy stuff imagine. But we're going to get 11 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: to all of that as well as Tyler Robinson, the 12 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 1: alleged likely assassin of Charlie Kirk, is now in court 13 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: for the first time today. All that and more momentarily, 14 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: but for now, just some news of the day. So, 15 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: a really high profile incident off the coast of Venezuela yesterday. 16 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: This is not the kind of thing that you see 17 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: every day. An oil tanker, an oil tanker, a full 18 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: fledged oil tanker, was seized by the United States Coast 19 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: Guard and by the United States Navy. Now, the way 20 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: that this worked is you had a war boat striker 21 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 1: group led by the USS Gerald Ford, which is a 22 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: major aircraft carrier. This is all sent down off the 23 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:27,119 Speaker 1: coast of Venezuela to the Southern Caribbean area and US 24 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: Southern Command. This all happened over the past month, month 25 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 1: and a half or so. It is a historical, fairly 26 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: unprecedented show of force when it comes to the United 27 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 1: States of Americas, specifically talking about Venezuela and the way 28 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 1: this went down yesterday off the coast of Venezuela was 29 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: the seizure was led by the US Coast Guard with 30 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: support by the United States Navy. Even more granular details. 31 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: The literal way that this actually went down is you 32 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: had some Coast Guard members who were taken to this 33 00:01:55,680 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 1: Venezuela and oil tanker by helicopter. The helicopter departing from 34 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: from the USS gerald are Ford. The Ford again arrived 35 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: just last month. In this trumpion show of force, all 36 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: orchestrated against Nicholas Medoro, who is barely hanging on to 37 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: his seat as the communist straw men there in Venezuela, 38 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: and the video shows that people the video is pretty crazy. Pambondi, 39 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: the Attorney General tweeting out showing that folks are fast roping. 40 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: They're roping down from the helicopters as a hover's just 41 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 1: feet off the deck and the seizure actually went fairly swimmingly. 42 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 1: For what is worth a little bit more about this 43 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 1: particular vessel, the US officials, who have spoken on the 44 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: condition of anonymity, have described this vessel as something that 45 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: they referred to only as the Skipper. Now, the Skipper 46 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: was previously known as the MPT Adisa according to ship 47 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 1: tracking data. There's all sorts of maritime experts who have 48 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 1: this sort of data in their databases. The Adisa was 49 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: previously sanctioned by the United States in the year twenty 50 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 1: twenty two, so just three years ago, over accusation that 51 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:03,799 Speaker 1: the ship at that time belonged to a highly sophisticated 52 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 1: network of shadow maritime vessels that were involved in smuggling 53 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: crude oil on behalf of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Core, 54 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 1: which is part of the revolutionary Iranian regime as well 55 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: as Hezbola. We've talked about this in the show numerous times. 56 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 1: Is this insidious long standing decades long connection actually between 57 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 1: Hezbolah above all, as well as their patrons in Tehran 58 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: and a lot of the drug cartels in the in 59 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: the Americas, in Latin America. There's a problem that goes 60 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: back many, many, many decades. Is one of the many 61 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: reasons that Hezbolah for forty plus years now has been 62 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: the Irani regime single favorite proxy of all their terrorist 63 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: proxies is the way that Hesbola has been able to 64 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: insinuate themselves and develop really deep relations with a lot 65 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: of the cartels. This actually reached something of a breaking 66 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: point in the second Obama term about ten eleven years 67 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: ago or so. Unfortunately, the Obama ministration ends up large quashing, 68 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: largely ends up burying that particular investigation. Politico did a 69 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: long story of it at the time. I think it 70 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: was actually in the first year of the Trump presidency 71 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: twenty and seventeen. Political had this story at the time. 72 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: It was really one of the great undercovered scandals in 73 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: recent American history. The lengths to which the Obama administration 74 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 1: went to totally quash and to bury this story about 75 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 1: the extent of coronation between Hesballa and the drug Cartels Maduro, 76 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: the Cashro, Regimia, cuball all the various bad actors in 77 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: the Western Hemisphere. They oftentimes have hes Ball specifically and 78 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 1: ultimately Iranian regime support. So this tanker has been on 79 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: the US radar for a while now, and they went 80 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 1: ahead and actually just seized it yesterday Pambondi who tweeted 81 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 1: out this really remarkable video of the actual US Coast 82 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:50,039 Speaker 1: Guard Coach's guardsmen getting off the chopper going down to 83 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: the vessel known as the Skipper. And here's what Attorney 84 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: General Pam Bondi says talking about the legal justification of 85 00:04:56,800 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: what happened off the coast of Venezuela yesterday. Pampbondi put 86 00:04:59,880 --> 00:05:03,919 Speaker 1: in on X yesterday quote today, the FBI, the Homeland 87 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 1: Security Investigations, and the US Coast Guard, with support from 88 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: the Department of War, executed a seizure war and for 89 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 1: a crude oil tanker used to transport sanctioned oil from 90 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: Venezuela and Iran. So there again as the Iran has 91 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: Bola connection. For multiple years, the oil tanker has been 92 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: sanctioned by the United States due to its involvement in 93 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 1: an illicit oil shipping network supporting foreign terrorist organizations. This seizure, 94 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: completed off the coast of Venezuela, was conducted safely and 95 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 1: securely in our investigation alongside the Department of Homeland Security 96 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: to prevent the transport of sanctioned oil continues. So this 97 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: is sanctioned oil. It is Irani and Hasbola oil, it 98 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 1: is Venezuela and oil. All this is sanctioned at this point, 99 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: and ultimately this really is part of the now extended 100 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:54,679 Speaker 1: months long pressure campaign from the truministration. The narco terrorist 101 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: boat strikes very much a part of this. By the way, 102 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: when it comes to this amplification of press sure on 103 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: the Maduro regime, trying to essentially force regime change without 104 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: actually having to fire a single bloody shot at Maduro. 105 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: That's really what's actually going on here. As far as 106 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,799 Speaker 1: what happens to the oil, the actual oil on that boat, 107 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: Donald J. Trump, as he often does, had a pretty 108 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: humorous answer, go ahead and watch this. 109 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 2: Ship. Well we keep it. I guess when you have 110 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 2: to follow the tanker. You know here a good judgment. 111 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 2: Just follow the tanker, follow follow it. Good. A helicopter 112 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 2: followed the tanker. We're going to get assume we're going 113 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 2: to keep the I. 114 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: Mean, I mean, sometimes, how do you not love this man? 115 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 1: I I mean sometimes I just laughed so hard at 116 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: Donald Trump. But I've said this so many times of 117 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: the years. It is one of Donald Trump's great political 118 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: gifts is the fact that he is just a slapstick, 119 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 1: slap your knee kind of funny man. He says of humor. 120 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: Is is something that that politically sustains him from voter 121 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: to voter, and frankly, he's been doing this now for 122 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 1: the better hard of fifty fifty five years in the 123 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 1: tabloids when not there, it's really what sustains him oftentimes 124 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 1: from generation to generation as well. Meanwhile, the Department of 125 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: Homeland Security, the head the secretary there, Chrissy Noam, also 126 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 1: had this essay on Fox News about the Venezuelan tanker 127 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: seizure and what was. 128 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 2: DHS's involvement in the seizing of that oil tanker of 129 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 2: Venezuela yesterday. 130 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 3: It was a Coast Guard light operation, so they worked 131 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 3: very closely with the Department of War and Department Justice FBI. 132 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 2: We're thankful that we have an opportunity to push back 133 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 2: on that. 134 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: Regime, all right, so she's talking there about the regime, 135 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: the regime being the Maduro regime. Now who is Nicholas 136 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: Mudua Now Nicholas Mudurero is Some folks to call him 137 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: a socialist. I preferred to his call him a communist, 138 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: a dirty commedy. He is the successor to Ugo Chappez, 139 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: his predecessor, who was a Castro esque, a close Castro ally, 140 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: a deeply horrific socialist communist leader there in Venezuela. Hugo 141 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: Chapas overseeing the plummeting the descent of Venezuela from one 142 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: of the wealthiest Latin American countries. Venezuela blessed with tremendous 143 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: natural resources. Natural resources is that no other Latin American 144 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: country really has really none of them, Peru, Paraguay, Argentina, Brazil, 145 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: you name it, none, None of them have the oil 146 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: reserves that Venezuela has there right off the coast. It 147 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: is a remarkable blessing for the people of Venezuela, or 148 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: at least it should be. It should be unlessoned until 149 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 1: communism takes holt. And that is why Venezuela now has 150 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: become a Third World. Horrific poverty, state, overrun by the cartels, 151 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 1: overrun by by foreign influence, overrun by China, has bala Aran. 152 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: The people are are totally skinny. You see the photos there, 153 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 1: they are emaciated. They're all skin and bones. You see 154 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:42,199 Speaker 1: the rib cages they're they're eating dog and eating all 155 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 1: sorts of other stuff there. They can't even get enough 156 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 1: foods to actually put food on the table to feed 157 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 1: their family. It is yet another lesson, as if you 158 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: need it, as to why socials and communism are just 159 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 1: complete and utter nonstarters when it comes to to how 160 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: to structure an economy, A complete and utter nonstarter because 161 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: there is no one who suffers more from socialists and 162 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:07,959 Speaker 1: communist utopian schemes actually implemented into reality. There was no 163 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: one who suffers more than the actual people themselves. I've 164 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:12,199 Speaker 1: never been to it as well. I actually have been 165 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: to Cuba. I was in Cuba actually in twenty nineteen. 166 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: I kind of reluctantly went and I saw it, and 167 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: I couldn't believe sometimes what I saw the level of 168 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 1: communist propaganda, like literal highway billboard style propaganda, social sl 169 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: foot threro, socialism, the fees, the future, these images of 170 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: chay Gavara, and again just the poverty I mean, the dilapidated 171 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: buildings at the time in Havana, just the people just 172 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: homeless and searching for food everywhere that can find it, 173 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: the stray dogs, I mean, just awful, just awful, awful stuff. 174 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 1: And then as well of it very much is another 175 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 1: example of that. 176 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 2: Now. 177 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 1: The actual reason though that Trump and the administration cares 178 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 1: so much about the Maduro regime and trying to have 179 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 1: this pressure campaign trying to get the Maduro regime ultimately 180 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: step down, ideally to abdicate without having to fire an 181 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 1: actual single shot. The reason for that is not necessarily 182 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: because they are Samantha Power esque liberal internationalist humanitarians. To 183 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:16,079 Speaker 1: be clear, we all care when people around the world 184 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 1: are suffering, and Donald Trump has said some wonderful things 185 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 1: about the plights of Christians who are currently being genocided 186 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: by Boko Haram and various other islamust actors there in 187 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: Nigeria in Western Africa. So there's I'm not downplaying the 188 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: basic human emotion that comes with seeing other people suffering, 189 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 1: but the main reason just calling it like I see, 190 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: I mean, the main objective reason why the truministration cares 191 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 1: about what's happening in Venezuela is not necessarily for human rights 192 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: or humanitarian reasons. Rather, it is because of pressing national 193 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 1: security reasons. And that's because everything from Iran and has Bola, 194 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: as we just discussed, to the Chinese Communist Party via 195 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 1: their Belt and Roate initiative, which is this sprawling twenty 196 00:10:56,720 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: first century geopolitical framework by which the Chinese Communist Party 197 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: is seeking to increase its clout, increases clout and influence 198 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 1: all throughout the world, everywhere from China through Central Asia 199 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: into Europe. That's kind of the older Marco Polo Silk Road, 200 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: all the way to the Horn of Africa. China building 201 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: a naval base in Djibouti in the Horne of Africa, 202 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: right near Eeritrea and Ethiopia. And yes, they are very 203 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 1: deeply heavily involved in our own hemisphere as well. The 204 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 1: Chinese Communist Party has made major major investments in ports 205 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 1: and other maritime naval infrastructure in countries such as Peru 206 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: on the Pacific coast of South America. They are extremely 207 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: extremely cozy, as you might expect with the Communist regime. 208 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 1: The Castro regimes to this day still in Cuba, very 209 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 1: close to where I am currently speaking here in South Florida. 210 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: China is all over and they are very very very 211 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 1: close with the Maduro regime in Venezuela as well. In fact, 212 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: a recent phone call that she Jimpang, the Chinese Communist Party, 213 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 1: had Hancho, the recent phone call that she had with 214 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 1: Maduro in Venezuela, basically doubling down and saying that, bro, 215 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 1: We've got your back. Essentially no matter what, so China 216 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: has has doubled down on this port from Madero. Lamar 217 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 1: Putin incidentally has done the exact same thing from his 218 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: perch over and over in the Kremlin. And that is 219 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:15,679 Speaker 1: why the trumpministration comes in there and says, no, I'm 220 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: actually not gonna support this, This is not okay. This 221 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: has actually been part of the doctrine of this second 222 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 1: trumministration since the get go. Think about the fact that 223 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: Marco Rubio himself is the Secretary of State, Marca Rubio, 224 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: who rose to political prominence right here in South Florida 225 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,319 Speaker 1: where I now live, Marca Rubio, who is himself the 226 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: son of Cuban refugees, someone who has a very very 227 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 1: keen set of eyes and ears when it comes to 228 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: Latin America more broadly, if you're called to January. This 229 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: past January, Rubio's first overseas trip was actually to Latin America. 230 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: The Waltree Journal had a whole op at the time 231 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: from their Lantin affairs columnist Anastasio Grady. She had a 232 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 1: whole column talking about how this is the reassertion of 233 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 1: the Monroe doctrine for the twenty first century when it 234 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: comes to Trump with Mark Rubio, the son of Cuban 235 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:11,079 Speaker 1: refugees and a fluent Spanish language speaker there as kind 236 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: of the symbolic and figurative head of this. So what 237 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 1: exactly is Monroe doctrine and how does it relate to 238 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 1: what we are now seeing play out with the Trump 239 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:22,599 Speaker 1: ministration and their approach to Latin America more broadly and 240 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: also to Venezuela specifically. So the Monroe doctrine takes his 241 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: name from James Monroe, who was the early nineteenth century 242 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 1: president and a pretty good one of that and underappreciated president, 243 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 1: I would argue by some historians, and he essentially argued 244 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 1: that when a foreign state intervenes in the political affairs 245 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: of the Americas more broadly North and South America. When 246 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 1: there is a foreign state, which at the time really 247 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: meant Europe, when there is a foreign aka European political 248 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:52,199 Speaker 1: intervention meddling in the internal affairs of the Americas, then 249 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 1: that should be viewed as a potentially hostile act against 250 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:59,839 Speaker 1: the United States, a potentially hostile act against the United States. Now, 251 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 1: that is that was followed, that was expanded upon in 252 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 1: nineteen oh four during the Teddy Roosevelt administration with a 253 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 1: doctrine that is known as the Roosevelt corollary. So the 254 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: Roosevelt Corollary, prolengated by President Teddy Roosevelt in nineteen oh four, 255 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: says that the United States could legitimately directly intervene directly 256 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 1: intervene in the internal affairs of Latin American countries if 257 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 1: they do not do enough to prevent foreign aggression, which 258 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: at the time again means European aggression. But by the 259 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: same logic, this could extend to any kind of aggression. 260 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 1: Today that would be Russia, China, and Iran namely above all. Now, 261 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: the most interesting kind of update for this is is 262 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 1: this we haven't actually get covered on the show. So 263 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 1: the trudministration just recently put out their brand new National 264 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: Security Strategy. So administrations, whether it's on an annual or 265 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: sometimes a biennial basis, they will periodically produce what is 266 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 1: known as a National Security Strategy, which is a fairly systemic, 267 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 1: thirty forty fifty document just laying out how the presidential 268 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: administration views the world, how they view foreign policy, how 269 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 1: they view national security, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. 270 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 1: There are a lot of good footprints from folks in 271 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 1: the state departments on this most recent document. I know 272 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: some of the folks involved, and I won't say names, 273 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: but I think pretty highly of these folks there, so 274 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 1: that there's a lot to like about this National Security 275 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 1: Strategy document that just came out from the Trump ministration. 276 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: There are some reasons, at least to be somewhat skeptical. 277 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: There is something of a bolstering of the legitimacy of 278 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 1: the Chinese Communist Party when it comes to having their 279 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: own purported, legitimate sphere of influence. I could do without that, frankly, 280 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 1: and I could do with a little more of trying 281 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: to bolster or actual analyze in the Indo Pacific. When 282 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: it comes to Japan, Philippines, Taiwan to you know, extra 283 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: playing even further places like India and Australia. 284 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 2: Let's table that for now. 285 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 1: We'll have more on the Chinese Communist Party and NVIDI 286 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 1: and all that on tomorrow's show, I think, but for 287 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: now I want to focus on this. In the recent 288 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 1: Trump National Security Strategy, they explicitly introduce what they refer 289 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: to as the Trump corollary to the Munroe doctrines. So 290 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: we're actually no longer just talking about the Roosevelt corollary, 291 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: the eponymous corollary of President Teddy Roosevelt from nineteen oh four. Now, 292 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: per the National Security strategies, brand new language, and this 293 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: just came out within the past like week and a half, 294 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: two weeks, they're referring actually explicitly now, so they're kind 295 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: of retroactively justifying these series of Pete heggsth led narco 296 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 1: strikes and now presumably also this brand new Venezuelan oil 297 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 1: tanker seizure. They're justifying this on the Trump corollary. So 298 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 1: here's how the Trump ministrations National Security Strategy talks about 299 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 1: the Trump corollary to the Monroe doctrine. 300 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 2: It says as follows. 301 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: Quote after years of neglect, the United States will reassert 302 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 1: and enforce the Monroe Doctrine to restore American pre eminence 303 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: in the Western Hemisphere and to protect our homeland and 304 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: our access to key Ggosh graphies throughout the region. We 305 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: will deny non hemispheric competitors. Note that language. This is 306 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: aside from me non hemispheric competitors. So that's on the 307 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:13,199 Speaker 1: twenty first century update to the original Munroe doctrins emphasis 308 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 1: on European. So we're talking here about non hemispheric. That 309 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: means not just European, that means also Iranian, Russian, Chinese, 310 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 1: and so forth. Okay, back to the security strategy quote, 311 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 1: we will deny non hemispheric competitors the ability to position 312 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 1: forces or other threatening capabilities, or to own or control 313 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 1: strategically vital assets in our hemisphere. The Trump corollary to 314 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:39,159 Speaker 1: the Monroe doctrine is a common sense and potent restoration 315 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: of American power and priorities consistent with American security interest. 316 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: So there's a lot to like here. There is a 317 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 1: lot to like about this. The most basic reason why 318 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 1: the Monroe doctrine, the Rosevel corollary, and now the Trump corollary, 319 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: The most basic reason why this makes sense is because 320 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 1: it's just really freaking intuitive. You don't have to have 321 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:01,679 Speaker 1: a PhD in international fairs or public diplomacy to understand 322 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: then when it comes to our own backyard, like our 323 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: literal own hemisphere, yeah, we should probably care a little 324 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 1: bit more and taking a more hyperactive, more aggressive approach 325 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 1: to preventing hostile foreign intrusion. It's often been said that 326 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 1: America is blessed with geography, and so we are from 327 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 1: seat to shining sea. We have major bodies of water, 328 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 1: gargantuan global oceans on both our west coast and our 329 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: east coast. That's amazing. We have a failed Narco state, however, 330 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 1: to our south, and there are plenty of other failed 331 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: or deeply troubled states even further to Mexico south, and 332 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 1: we have a reason for reasons of basic proximity and 333 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 1: geography when it comes to the international human trafficking rings, 334 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 1: when it comes to the drug cartels, when it comes 335 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: to the transnational shipping of fentanyl and cocaine, the de 336 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: facto chemical warfare flowing into the United States, killing untold, 337 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 1: untold thousands or millions by now millions and millions, and 338 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: millions of Americans there. We absolutely ought to care more 339 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: about what is happening south of're a border in this 340 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 1: own hemisphere for the most part of than what is 341 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:07,159 Speaker 1: happening halfway or fully around the world. I am a 342 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:10,640 Speaker 1: longtime proponent of the Monroe doctrine and these various corollaries 343 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 1: for the very simple reason that it just makes sense, 344 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: and that broadly is how the administration views this as well. 345 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:21,120 Speaker 1: They are they are talking out about the Trump corollary. Now, 346 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 1: how long is this going to go on? 347 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:23,360 Speaker 2: That? 348 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 1: That's kind of my question. I'm very supportive of the strategy. 349 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 1: I've got no qualms whatsoever with this oil tanker seizure. 350 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 1: Is it an escalatory action? Yeah, I mean it's definitely 351 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 1: not de escalatory. Do I support it? Hecky, I support it. 352 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 1: I mean, this ship was already sanctioned three years ago. 353 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: There was legal justification there. It was a swift, smooth operation. 354 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:46,120 Speaker 1: There were there were there were no there were no casualties, 355 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:47,239 Speaker 1: no tragedies anything like that. 356 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:47,400 Speaker 2: There. 357 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 1: It is deeply humilitating for Nicholas Muduro. It is deeply 358 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:53,400 Speaker 1: humiliating for all of his allies from China to Hezbola 359 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 1: and so forth. There and yeah, as President Trump says, 360 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:57,680 Speaker 1: we got the oil, which is always nice to try 361 00:19:57,680 --> 00:19:59,919 Speaker 1: to reduce prices from a good old fashioned econ one 362 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 1: one supplied demand curve as well. 363 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 2: So there's a lot to like about this. 364 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 1: My only question is how much longer is this cat 365 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:08,199 Speaker 1: and mouse game gonna go on when it comes to 366 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: President Trump and Nicholas Maduro. Maduro, for what it's worth, 367 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,679 Speaker 1: doesn't seem to particularly care too much about all this 368 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 1: pressure that Donald Trump is putting on him. There is 369 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:20,360 Speaker 1: this utterly hilarious new video that I was looking out 370 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:23,400 Speaker 1: this morning and just frankly just laughing my butt off 371 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 1: to myself with Madua wearing this really funny like old 372 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:30,879 Speaker 1: man straw hat and he starts speaking of Spanish, and 373 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:34,159 Speaker 1: then he starts speaking in English. Don't worry be happy, 374 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,439 Speaker 1: like trying to conjure up the best of Bob Marley, 375 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 1: Try trying to tell his you know he deeply oppressed 376 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 1: dog eating constituents. You need if you even call them constituents, 377 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: they are subjects in a communist tyranny. Try and tell 378 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: them like, don't worry, be happy. So I mean, he 379 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 1: clearly is unfazed. He clearly does not or at least publicly. 380 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 1: He doesn't really give a crab about what's happening there. 381 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 1: He's very much struggling at home. I do hear secondhand 382 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 1: from a lot of folks who are veterans of the DEA, 383 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 1: the Drugonforce, and agency groups like that, that they are 384 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:10,880 Speaker 1: not entirely sure exactly what is President Trump's endgame here 385 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 1: when it comes to Venezuela. Now, if you take the 386 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 1: Monroe Doctrine and the Roosevelt Corrollarry at face value, it 387 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: is worth noting that at face value they do justify 388 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: up to an including actual military action. I guess the 389 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 1: point would be this is that, mister President, I'm not 390 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: entirely sure that this is exactly what your voters voted for. 391 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 2: Either. 392 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:35,439 Speaker 1: I'm not entirely sure that supporting the attempt to topple 393 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:39,199 Speaker 1: another corrupt Latin American regime is exactly what a lot 394 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,159 Speaker 1: of Trump's voters supported. Now, on the one hand, we 395 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 1: are robust supporters here of the Monroe doctri We are 396 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 1: robust supporters of the notion of caring more about the 397 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: Western hemisphere than virtually any other place around the world 398 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 1: for obvious intuitive reasons. I'm just not entirely sure that 399 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:59,400 Speaker 1: if push comes to shove, if another Bay of Pigs 400 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 1: invasion in style operation is necessary, is necessarily something that 401 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:04,919 Speaker 1: will redound to our interest. 402 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 2: We'll see. 403 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 1: All I'm saying is that America has the doctrine, and 404 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: Corollari is nowithstanding. America has a very long and checkered, 405 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:14,879 Speaker 1: I think will be a charitable way of putting it, 406 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: a very long and very checkered history when it comes 407 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 1: to trying to impose regime chains, color revolutions, or actual 408 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: toping of dictators when it comes to Latin America. So 409 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 1: I'm somewhat cautious, somewhat wary of that. Anything short of that, 410 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,880 Speaker 1: basically though, I think is totally fair game. And certainly 411 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 1: this venezuela and oil tanker seizure is definitely an escalation. 412 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,959 Speaker 1: We'll see how Madua responds. He hasn't really necessarily done 413 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:40,919 Speaker 1: a whole lot to respond yet, other than basically just 414 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 1: telling his oppressed people who don't worry, be happy, which 415 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if they're doing, because they're definitely worrying 416 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: and they're definitely not happy. But I guess we'll see 417 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 1: how that plays out. In other news, the mayor of Minneapolis. 418 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:57,880 Speaker 1: What an utter and utter buffoon, What an absolute utter buffoon. 419 00:22:57,920 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 1: We've been talking for a while on this show about 420 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 1: about the growing threats of Islamisation of America, the two 421 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 1: eyes Islamization and immigration, and the toxic intersection thereof the 422 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 1: Somali fraud in Minneapolis, which is shaping out to be 423 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 1: the largest bilking of the taxpayer, likely in the in 424 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 1: the entire history of the United States. Minneapolis is very 425 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 1: much ground zero of this. But I mean, I saw 426 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 1: this company. I just couldn't believe this. I mean, the 427 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,880 Speaker 1: mayor of Minneapolis, not only is he unfazed at how 428 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 1: Somalis and Muslims have just totally taken over the Twin Cities, 429 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 1: he seems to be darn proud of it. 430 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:31,360 Speaker 2: Go ahead and watch this. 431 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:33,479 Speaker 4: I wanted to talk to you about a few issues 432 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 4: that are important for me, both what we have done 433 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,919 Speaker 4: and also what we're going to do. I was the 434 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:43,400 Speaker 4: first mayor in the entire country to allow for call 435 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 4: to prayer in Aadan five times a day. 436 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:54,640 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, let's clap like seals. Bullets, Let's clap like seals. 437 00:23:55,600 --> 00:24:01,160 Speaker 1: Because this purportedly putatively Jewish guy that's the mayor of Minneapolis. 438 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 1: He's allegedly Jewish, who is bragging about how I'm the 439 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: first guy to allow the call to prayer five times 440 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:08,360 Speaker 1: a day? 441 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 2: What is wrong with you? 442 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 1: Did you have any appreciation of what America is? When 443 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,639 Speaker 1: America is not? Do you have any understanding of what 444 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: built this country? I mean to say that they're clueless 445 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:26,680 Speaker 1: in Minnesota, I think is an understatement. By the way 446 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 1: Tim Walls one thing that he's done, and I hope 447 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 1: that Tim Walls ends up in jail to be clear, 448 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 1: from this whole Somali fraud thing. He has been profoundly complicit. 449 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 1: Scott is sand and the Treasury Treasury Department, they are 450 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: currently investing in the extent to which Tim Walls Illino 451 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:44,160 Speaker 1: Omar all these various other Minnesota leaders, the Attorney General 452 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 1: Keith Ellison, and Muslim brotherhood Stoge. They are currently looking 453 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 1: into the extent to which all these idiots were complicit 454 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 1: in builking the tax payer. There another thing under the 455 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 1: radar that Tim Waltz has done that hasn't gone a 456 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 1: whole lot of attention. I actually only knows myself. When 457 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 1: I went Minnesota for the first time in August to 458 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 1: visit my buddy who's got a lake house there, and 459 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 1: we were playing golf at his club and I saw 460 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 1: the state flag in Minnesota. I was like, wait a minute, 461 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 1: that's not the state flag that I remember, because I 462 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 1: used to know all the state flags just come like 463 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 1: a nerdy thing I used to know. And the new 464 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 1: state flag of Minnesota, which Tim Walls has himself signed 465 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:23,159 Speaker 1: to law, has a shocking resemblance to the Somaldi flag. 466 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 1: Literally after the show's over, go ahead and google google 467 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:29,199 Speaker 1: Minnesota flag Somali flag. You'll see the same star. I 468 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 1: think that's deliberate. I don't think that that is purely coincidental. 469 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 1: So anyway, the mayor there just bragging bringing about how 470 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 1: he's basically just just running rough shot over his own 471 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:43,199 Speaker 1: citizens by blasting this highly obnoxious call to prayer from 472 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 1: the minarest of the mosque fought five times a day. 473 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 1: And by the way, the first called a prayer is 474 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 1: really freaking early in the morning. Guess what. I wake 475 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 1: up early in the morning too. This is literally on 476 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:56,440 Speaker 1: yesterday's show. I wake up nowadays around five am. I'm 477 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 1: instant sinding God. By six am or just thereafter there. 478 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,639 Speaker 1: Guess what, I don't need a call to prayer to 479 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 1: wake up half the city around me. 480 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 2: It's called an alarm clock. 481 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 1: I'm not entirely sure why that's not good for all 482 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 1: of the world's religions, but apparently the mayor of Minnesota 483 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 1: is bragging about the fact that the Mosques are waking 484 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: up half a city in the wee hours of the morning. 485 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 2: Just just unbelievable stuff. 486 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 1: I mean, to be clear, the call of prayer is 487 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 1: frankly the least of our concerns. I mean, there are 488 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,880 Speaker 1: a much more profound concerns when it comes to the 489 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 1: compatibility or lack thereof, of the so called religion of 490 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 1: peace and these United States of America. The shocking poll 491 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 1: that we mentioned on this show that was taken less 492 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 1: than three weeks after October seven, twenty twenty three, showing 493 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,679 Speaker 1: that fifty seven point five percent of American Muslims felt 494 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,919 Speaker 1: that the Hamas program or the Nazi esque slaughter on 495 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 1: that terrible day, they thought that it was either justified 496 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:49,880 Speaker 1: or somewhat justified. Fifty seven point five percent of American Muslims, 497 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 1: I mean muslim is similar. Assimilation to America is not 498 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 1: going well. I mean, understatement of the freaking century, and 499 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 1: here we have the mayor Minnesota, who is being a 500 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,199 Speaker 1: chess and pretends like he's proud of the fact that 501 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: he's the first mayor to just have this called a 502 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 1: prayer of five times to day. What I mean to 503 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 1: call this man a useful idiot, I think would be 504 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 1: unduly praiseworthy. He is a scoundrel and a fool, and 505 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 1: and I frankly wish him nothing. 506 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 2: But the absolute worst. 507 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: Incidentally, one of the individuals who has been, or I 508 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:24,880 Speaker 1: should say, who was sounding the loudest alarm in all 509 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,640 Speaker 1: of the commentarias and all of the chattering class when 510 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: it comes to the threats of Islam and the notion 511 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 1: that Islam is simply not categorically compatible with the United States. 512 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 1: I say categorically because some individuals fine, but as talking 513 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: here in categories, okay, the notion that Islam is not 514 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: categorically compatible. One of the loudest voices on this was 515 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:49,400 Speaker 1: the late Charlie Kirk. We discussed this on Charlie's show. 516 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 1: We discussed it at his private, off record, now infamous 517 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 1: retreat that he organized in the Hamptons in August, the 518 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:01,120 Speaker 1: one that's been the subject of so much conspiracy. Charlie 519 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 1: was all in on the notion that Islam and immigration 520 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:08,120 Speaker 1: are not compatible. And one of the reasons that Charlie 521 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 1: was so adamant that Islam is not compatible with the 522 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 1: United States is because Charlie correctly understood America to be 523 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 1: a biblical nation to be founded, as is often said 524 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 1: in the Timeless Eternal Truths, Principles and Ideals of the Bible, 525 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:26,400 Speaker 1: of the Jeo Christian Tradition, the Hebrew Bible, the New Testament, 526 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,439 Speaker 1: all of it. Charlie himself, even though he was an 527 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 1: Evangelic Christian, closely closely studied the Hebrew Bible, the tour 528 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 1: of the Books of Moses above all. In fact, one 529 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 1: of things that Charlie Kirk did was he actually turned 530 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 1: his phone off. He turned his phone off when Orthodox 531 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 1: Jews like myself do from Friday Night to Sauray Knights. 532 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 1: He observed his version, their family observed their version of 533 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 1: the Sabbath. It's an amazing, amazing thing. And his new 534 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: book out Stopped in the Name of God, talks about 535 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 1: it now. His grieving widow, Erica Kirk, has been making 536 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 1: the media rounds for the past few days and probably 537 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 1: for the next few to guests as well, talking about, 538 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 1: among other things, the release of this book, which has 539 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,959 Speaker 1: been sold out on Amazon. Hopefully they restock. I personally 540 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 1: know what that feels like. My own book earlier this 541 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 1: year was out of stock on Amazon the morning of 542 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 1: publication day. 543 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 2: Not a great feeling. We'll hold that story for another day. 544 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 1: So eric Kirk has been making the rounds, and among 545 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 1: the things that she did, I mean, this is really 546 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 1: amazing stuff. She finally comes out swinging, finally again some 547 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 1: of just the utterly unhinged conspiracy theories I've been flying 548 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 1: against her Turning Point USA, yours truly, and so many others. 549 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 2: Here is Erica Kirk. 550 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 3: Come after me, call me names, I don't care, call 551 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 3: me what you want, go down that rabbit hole, whatever. 552 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 3: But when you go after my family, my Turning Point 553 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 3: USA family, my Charlie Kirk Show family, when you go 554 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 3: after the people that I love, and you're making hundreds 555 00:29:56,040 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 3: and thousands of dollars every single episode going after the 556 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 3: people that I love because somehow they're in on this. 557 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 2: No, you know, I have to say it. I've never 558 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 2: seen you like that. 559 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 3: No, I'm I'm very this is righteous anger, because this 560 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 3: is not Okay, it's not healthy. This is a mind virus. Yes, 561 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 3: I believe in our judic jewdicial system. I do. We 562 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 3: have a hell of a team working on this. Excuse 563 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 3: my French, but this is not okay. 564 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 2: So strong stuff there. 565 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 1: From Erica Kirk with Harris Faulkner on out Numbered over 566 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 1: on Fox News. You see the deep root of frustration. 567 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 1: You see the anger in her eyes. A little bit 568 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: more actually for now from America Krk. Go ahead and 569 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 1: watch this clip as well. 570 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 3: Your words are very powerful, and we are human. My 571 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 3: team are not machines and they're not robots. They are human. 572 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 3: We have more death threats on our team and our 573 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 3: side than I have ever seen. I have kidnapping threats, 574 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 3: I have you name it, we have it. And my 575 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 3: poor team is exhausted. And every time they bring this 576 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 3: back up, what are we supposed to do relive that 577 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 3: trauma all over again. They watched my husband get murdered. 578 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 3: I have no idea how I would have reacted if 579 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 3: I was there that day, and think the good Lord 580 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 3: that I did not have to see that happen. But 581 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 3: my team, they are rocked the core. So why every 582 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 3: single day did they have to be dragged through the mud, analyzed, 583 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 3: hyper analyzed. This is a duty to my husband and 584 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 3: it's an absolute honor, and I will never back down. 585 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 3: And so my message to them is to stop, to stop. 586 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 2: Really powerful stuff. 587 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 1: You know, it was either in that interview or in 588 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 1: a different interview as well, that Erica Kirk actually cited 589 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 1: a somewhat lesser known portion of the Book of Niamiah 590 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 1: from the Hebrew Bible, basically trying to explain why she 591 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 1: was she's been too focused on building on her late 592 00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 1: husband's legacy rather than responding to all of the noise there. 593 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 1: So frankly, the fact that she was able to cite 594 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 1: the Book of Nehemaya to me is just deeply impressive. 595 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 3: There. 596 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 1: You don't necessarily walk and meet a ton of Christians 597 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 1: or Jews for that matter, who are able to just 598 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 1: freely cite the Book of Niamayah. So that was really 599 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 1: really great to hear as well. Look, all of the 600 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 1: very strands of this story are now reaching something of 601 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 1: a head. Erga Kirk speaking out for the first time 602 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 1: really in these now three months since Charlie's untimely and 603 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 1: horrific assassination about the unhinged lunatic conspiracy theories from the 604 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 1: likes of Candice Owens and all of our various fellow 605 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 1: travelers there. Meanwhile, today also Tyler Robinson, the alleged but 606 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 1: I guess we'll editorialize and say likely all but assuredly 607 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 1: assassin of Charlie Kirk, making his first in person court 608 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 1: appearance day in Provo, Utah. Robinson is being charged with 609 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 1: aggravated murder and a series of other related felonies, all 610 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 1: in connection with his alleged but again I will say 611 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 1: likely in but assured assassination of Charlie Kirk on September 612 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 1: tenth at the Chemist Events in Utah at Utah Valley University. 613 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 2: So it's all coming to a head. Robinson is in court. 614 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 1: There's been a lot of back and forth, by the way, 615 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 1: trying to figure out the extent to which the judge 616 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 1: is acting properly and trying to make a lot of 617 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 1: these preceding secrets, trying to protect privacy rights for what 618 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,239 Speaker 1: it's worth. Erica Kirk herself has been critical of that, 619 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 1: actually has said that no more of this should be public. 620 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 1: A lot of other media organizations as well have called 621 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 1: for more transparency. This is one of the longstanding given 622 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 1: takes of trials is you always have this back and 623 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 1: forth between folks who are more sympathetic towards criminal defendants 624 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 1: when it comes to privacy rights than when it comes 625 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 1: to the public interest, more transparency. I frankly, you actually 626 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 1: see the same kind of tension play out when it 627 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 1: comes to debates over whether or not the US Supreme 628 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 1: Court should actually televise their oral arguments, which to this 629 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 1: day they actually do not do. So there's ultate detensions 630 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 1: there which are content side. But Tyle Robinson is making 631 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 1: his first physical in court appearance today, personally, assuming that 632 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 1: he is found guilty, which I have a little doubt 633 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 1: that he will be. I hope that he is executed asap. None, none, 634 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,800 Speaker 1: none of this bs None of these years and years 635 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 1: and decades of the of these overly frivolous appeals when 636 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 1: it comes to it, when it comes to uh, you know, 637 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 1: this petition or that petition or habeas corpus or just 638 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:21,880 Speaker 1: trying to rig the system when it comes to the 639 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:25,240 Speaker 1: ACL you and all these various liberal left wing legal NGOs. 640 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:26,880 Speaker 2: No, it's garbage. It's horrible. 641 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 1: I hate, hate, hate the fact that the death penalty 642 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 1: in this country takes decades to execute. Okay, yes, you 643 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,759 Speaker 1: have your appeal obviously, that is that as part of 644 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 1: due process, you have your day in court. No one 645 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 1: is trying to deny your right to appeal, and you 646 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,840 Speaker 1: can appeal that for legitimately as long as as a 647 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,799 Speaker 1: legal system takes. But the notion that someone like a 648 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,920 Speaker 1: Tyler Robinson, the notion that someone like a Jokar Zarnayev 649 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:54,319 Speaker 1: the Boston Marathon bar that these people can just rot 650 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 1: on death row for decades and decades. What why if 651 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 1: you are guilty of the most terrific crimes and you've 652 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,840 Speaker 1: had your legitimate appeal, then execute the son of a 653 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 1: you know what do it? 654 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 2: I mean, for what it's worth. 655 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 1: I will say now something that I said on television 656 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 1: shortly after Charlie's assassination. Charlie was a friend, as the 657 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 1: viewers likely know, I said a Newsmax shortly after his assassination. 658 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 1: Utah is actually one of the only states in the 659 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 1: country that still has firing squad as a possible option 660 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 1: when it comes to when it comes to death. If 661 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:33,239 Speaker 1: someone is actually legitimately sentenced to death, I said on TV, 662 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,400 Speaker 1: then I will reiterate now that if that day comes, 663 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 1: and if it's not the lethal injection or some other 664 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,440 Speaker 1: form of execution, if it's the actual firing squad, I 665 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,880 Speaker 1: will gladly volunteer to fly out to Utah with my 666 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 1: rifle be part of that. That is how strongly I 667 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:53,320 Speaker 1: believe in legitimate, just capital punishment, assuming you've been found guilty, convicted, 668 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,879 Speaker 1: gone off through the ranks of appeal, et cetera, et cetera, 669 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,279 Speaker 1: et cetera. I genuinely, honestly do feel the way and 670 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 1: believe in that. The arguably though even more important point 671 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,840 Speaker 1: is this, her appeal has to be heard. 672 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 3: Now. 673 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 1: I've actually been encouraged looking at social media over the 674 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,520 Speaker 1: past twenty four to forty six hours, it seems like 675 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 1: the message is coming out. I'm not sure exactly what happened, 676 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 1: as seems to me like maybe someone in Turning Point 677 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,839 Speaker 1: sent out either a formal message blast, some sort of memo, 678 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 1: or an informal kind of blast text message, slack channel. 679 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 1: I'm not privy to this, I'm not part of this 680 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,840 Speaker 1: particular text message or slack channel if it exists, but 681 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 1: the memo has gone out, whether officially or unofficially, that 682 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 1: we are no longer tolerating these conspiracy theories. Tim Poole 683 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 1: incidentally went on an extraordinary, an expletive filled, but extraordinary 684 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:49,319 Speaker 1: rant against the unhinged conspiracist Candice Owens earlier this week. 685 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:50,920 Speaker 1: You should go ahead and check that out over at 686 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 1: Tim Poole's channel. I was really encouraged to see that 687 00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:56,279 Speaker 1: I was on Tim Poole's show a few months ago. 688 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,360 Speaker 1: I don't really know that Tim Poole is necessarily exactly 689 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:01,840 Speaker 1: where I'm at these issues, so that was really encouraging 690 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:06,280 Speaker 1: to say. I saw Megan Kelly actually tweeting out her 691 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 1: showlengk or something something like that there, and all the replies, 692 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:13,480 Speaker 1: even from very very maga accounts like cat Turd, the 693 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:17,200 Speaker 1: replies were all essentially telling Megan, no one cares what 694 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,239 Speaker 1: you have to say on this. Tell us that you 695 00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:23,719 Speaker 1: will condemn candae Owns, which is amazing. So clearly the 696 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:28,240 Speaker 1: message is getting out there that this stuff is not okay, folks. 697 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,399 Speaker 1: There is nothing wrong in an a. In fact, there 698 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,960 Speaker 1: was much to be said in praised when there are 699 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:38,280 Speaker 1: legitimate doubts about asking questions to make sure you actually 700 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,239 Speaker 1: have the truth of the matter. This is the scientific 701 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:45,360 Speaker 1: method that you learn about in elementary school, just basic 702 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:49,759 Speaker 1: human inquiry. Basic human inquiry has advanced a lot of 703 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:53,880 Speaker 1: knowledge throughout the entire course of human history. That is 704 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:59,840 Speaker 1: a far cry from accusing innocent people like me, accusing 705 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:06,000 Speaker 1: organizations like Charlie's own turning Point USA, like accusing his wife, 706 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:12,759 Speaker 1: his widow of what, of being involved in his assassination 707 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,960 Speaker 1: when we know, beyond the shadow of a doubt, if 708 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 1: I can editorialize again that it was this left wing, 709 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:28,800 Speaker 1: transgender adjacent, furry fetishist, lapsed Mormon left the fanatic with 710 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:33,719 Speaker 1: the lyrics to bellet show on his bullets, that was 711 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:38,480 Speaker 1: that monster who pulled the trigger? Why are you doing this? 712 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:44,160 Speaker 1: Is it literally all for clicks? Are clicks worth selling 713 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:48,040 Speaker 1: your soul? Is Katari money or Russian money, whatever, whatever 714 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,440 Speaker 1: the heck the case may be, Is that worth selling 715 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 1: your soul? It's disgusting, It is abhorrent and is disgusting, 716 00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:02,920 Speaker 1: and it has real ramifications. But when I was in 717 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:07,759 Speaker 1: Europe at a conference in October, they arrested someone in 718 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,520 Speaker 1: Texas for issuing online death threats against me and a 719 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:14,160 Speaker 1: few others here in Florida, namely Carol Marquitz Seth Dillon 720 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:18,799 Speaker 1: and Laura Lumer. That individual has posted bond from the 721 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 1: Palm Beach County, Florida jail. He cannot have internet access, 722 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:24,840 Speaker 1: no mobile phone, twenty four to seven ankle monitor. 723 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:25,560 Speaker 2: All that there. 724 00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,959 Speaker 1: The point is that these things, as I know personally now, 725 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:34,360 Speaker 1: have real consequences when it comes to security, when it 726 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:38,239 Speaker 1: comes to reputation, and above all, most importantly, when it 727 00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,760 Speaker 1: comes to whether or not you can go to sleep 728 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:44,240 Speaker 1: at night, whether one day you will face your maker 729 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:48,799 Speaker 1: on the prespoe of entering the world to come, and 730 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:50,879 Speaker 1: you will be made accountable. 731 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,400 Speaker 2: You will have to answer for what you did in 732 00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,439 Speaker 2: this world. Each and every day. 733 00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,319 Speaker 1: You should go about your life making sure that you 734 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:03,520 Speaker 1: are ready to answer those questions and say, Lord, I 735 00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:08,560 Speaker 1: have done my service, I have done my deeds, and 736 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:14,120 Speaker 1: I have not not violated your commandments. Candice Owens and 737 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:17,040 Speaker 1: folks like that, not only do they belong in a mental. 738 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:20,120 Speaker 2: Institution, which they do. 739 00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:22,479 Speaker 1: They have a lot of repentance to do as well. 740 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,000 Speaker 1: I pray for them, truly, I really do. But for now, 741 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:30,160 Speaker 1: Erica Kirk's words should be heard in clarion, clarion voice 742 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,560 Speaker 1: from sea to shining sea, God willing they will be 743 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,680 Speaker 1: doing exactly that well as a minor. Folks, make sure 744 00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:37,640 Speaker 1: to like and subscribe to The Josh Hammer Show. You 745 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:41,080 Speaker 1: can watch our video format over a newsweek at the 746 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,600 Speaker 1: Newsweek YouTube page. You also watched the show via the 747 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:46,160 Speaker 1: Salem News Channel, but for now I'm Josh Hammer. Hope 748 00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:52,640 Speaker 1: you enjoyed today's episode of The Josh ammershow The Josh 749 00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:55,440 Speaker 1: Hammer Show is a member of the Trust Project.