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Speaker 1: And I guess he might have a point about all

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Speaker 1: And we will get to that story in just sixty seconds.

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Speaker 2: If you have time to listen. You were confronted by

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Speaker 2: I just wonder if someone who applauds violence against their

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Speaker 2: about being confronted by your constituents. The Senator, all your

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Speaker 2: America knows that the Somali welfare fraud in Minnesota stole

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Speaker 2: Well that's a lie. You got a chance today. You

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Speaker 2: You have never had the courage to look me in

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Speaker 3: Today.

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Speaker 2: I'll give you that chance to clear the record. Tell

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Speaker 1: See what I mean? This seems personal. I can tell

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Speaker 1: All right, And then he went on to follow his

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Speaker 1: those of you who don't know, senator from Oklahoma, used

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Speaker 1: Mark Waynemullen was willing to do it, and he got

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Speaker 1: Now, you might recognize the spherical head sitting right over

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Speaker 5: Even after your anger at cooled, you were still bragging

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Speaker 2: Do you think fighting as a resolution for political difference

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Speaker 2: I'm glad you guys are friends now and that you've reconciled,

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Speaker 2: Is that still your opinion that political disputes can sometimes

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Speaker 4: It's about character assassination. For you, that's the way this

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Speaker 1: And just so you know, and I've heard this story.

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Speaker 6: An what's your question?

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Speaker 1: The whole point here is that if you point out

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