1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,480 Speaker 1: Well, coming up. This is a Democrat shutdown. This has 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: nothing to do with republic. 3 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 2: This is the Democrats down the layer, upset that the 4 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 2: crime numbers are so good. 5 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 1: They're very unhappy that the crime numbers are so good. 6 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 2: They're very unhappy that there's a movement for get getting 7 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 2: voter ID. 8 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 1: They want voter ID. The population ninety eight percent. 9 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:24,080 Speaker 2: I was President Donald Trump earlier in the week talking 10 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 2: about the government shutdown. So will the partial government shutdown 11 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 2: be the backdrop to next week's State. 12 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: Of the Union address? Now? Speaker Mike Johnson will join 13 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 1: us later. 14 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 2: Also, the USS has significantly expanded its military presence in 15 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 2: the Middle East amid rising tensions with Iran, now described 16 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 2: as the largest deployment in the Middle East since two 17 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 2: thousand and three. Former Minnesota Congressman Michelle Bachman, who served 18 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 2: on the House Intail Committee, will be here. On the 19 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 2: domestic fronte, a coalition of sixty members of Congress have 20 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 2: submitted an amicus brief to the US District Court for 21 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:04,960 Speaker 2: the Western District of Louisiana in support of a Louisiana 22 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 2: lawsuit against the FDA. Congressman John Rose of Tennessee will 23 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 2: be here to talk about it. All of that and 24 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 2: more coming up on this edition This week on Capitol Hill. 25 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 1: Well, let's meek. 26 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 2: President Donald Trump chaired the first in person meeting of 27 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 2: the Board of Peace. 28 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: What we're doing is very simple peace. 29 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 2: It's called the Boarder Piece, and it's all about an 30 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:36,479 Speaker 2: easy word to say, but. 31 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:39,960 Speaker 1: A hard word to produce peace. But we're going to 32 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 1: produce it. We're going to talk about peace. 33 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 2: So delegates from nearly fifty countries attended the meeting, held 34 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 2: in Washington, d C. Nine nations pledged approximately seven billion 35 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 2: dollars toward Gaza's reconstruction and humanitarian relief. The US has 36 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 2: reportedly committed ten billion. Now, some believe the discussion of 37 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 2: peace and rebuilding is premature, as Hamas remains armed and 38 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 2: in place. Joining us now is Chris Mitchell, Middle East 39 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 2: Bureau Chief for CBN News. Normally he comes to us 40 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 2: from Jerusalem, but tonight he's here in person. Chris, Welcome 41 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 2: to this week on Capital Tony. Great to be with 42 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 2: you here in Nashville and in person. It is good 43 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,239 Speaker 2: to see you, and I'm sure you like that. There's 44 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 2: no time to go. Yeah, that's right. 45 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 3: Usually it's nine pm or later when we get together. 46 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 1: So let's talk about the president. 47 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 2: He chaired the meeting on Thursday of the Gaza Board 48 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 2: of Peace. In several countries pledged money to this effort. 49 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 2: But there seems to be a sticking point, and that 50 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 2: is Hamas. Right, Yeah, that is the main sticking point. 51 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 3: And the whole idea of the twenty point plan, a 52 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:54,799 Speaker 3: peace plan, was that Hamas would need to disarm and 53 00:02:56,080 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 3: hopefully demilitarize the whole Gaza strip. Right now is saying 54 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 3: they've never agreed to disarm. They won't disarm, They will 55 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:08,079 Speaker 3: only disarm to quote unquote palacety and entity and give 56 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 3: their arms back to them. So that is the main 57 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 3: sticking point. Prime Minister in that now has been very 58 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 3: vocal or very clear that they can't go on with 59 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 3: this quote unquote peace plan unless SAMAS disarms, and that 60 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 3: is the main sticking point. There's no military organization that 61 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 3: will go in there. I think there's eight thousand troops 62 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 3: pledged by perhaps Indonesia and Malaysia, but it's only the 63 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 3: IDEF that's capable of going in and actually defeating and 64 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 3: disarming Hamas. And I think the IDEAF is ready to 65 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 3: do that when the time comes. 66 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: There's no way. 67 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 2: Based upon the comments that Prime Minister Benjamina, who has 68 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 2: made publicly that they will tolerate Hamas remaining in place, 69 00:03:57,760 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 2: remaining arm. 70 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, Hamas has said they're not going to disarm. They 71 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 3: haven't changed. They've actually been using this ceasefire to actually 72 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 3: re arm and regroup, perhaps even rebuild some of their 73 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 3: tunnels that they have constructed for many, many years. So 74 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 3: that is the main sticking point. At the beginning of 75 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 3: the war. In October eighth, when Israel actually declared war, 76 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 3: they made three goals, and that was to defeat Hamas, 77 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 3: make sure that Maas could not control Gaza, and return 78 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 3: the hostages. Thankfully, the hostages are all back, but Hamas 79 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 3: has not been defeated. They have been strengthening themselves in 80 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 3: the part of forty seven percent of the Gaza Strip 81 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 3: they controlled, the idea of controls fifty three percent. So 82 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 3: that is the main sticking point and this talk of peace, 83 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 3: but you can't get to peace until you not only 84 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 3: disarm Hamas, demilitarize the Gaza Strip and deradicalize the people 85 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 3: of Gaza Strip that have been infused with this ideology 86 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 3: that they want to destroy Israel. 87 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 2: But this is not something that just happened. I mean, 88 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 2: this has been going on for decades now. Is there 89 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,799 Speaker 2: any real sense that we can get to that point? 90 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 2: I know the President talks about, you know, peace and 91 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 2: the East, historic peace, but this is deeply rooted. 92 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 1: I mean, we've seen this for decades now. 93 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 3: It's deeply rooted for generations, this inductrination of a generations 94 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:33,479 Speaker 3: of Palestinians in Gaza, and not only Gaza, but in 95 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 3: Juday and Samaria, that their goal is to destroy Israel. 96 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 3: And we talked about the sense that it's really a 97 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 3: religious war for Hamas. This is their ideology. Part of 98 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 3: the Charter of Hamas is that they need to destroy 99 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 3: the entity known as Israel, and they quote the Qur'an. 100 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 3: This is what animates them, This is what propels them 101 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:00,040 Speaker 3: to go in and continue to fight. You would I 102 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 3: think after being defeated so forcefully by the idea for 103 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,919 Speaker 3: more than two years, still not completely defeated, but degraded 104 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 3: in such a dramatic fashion, and yet they still fight. 105 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 3: Why are they fighting? This is a religious war for them, 106 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 3: This is something they do for Islam. 107 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 2: Has that been a liability for the United States? Not 108 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 2: understanding the Middle East and the role that that religious 109 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 2: ideology plays because we've been dismissive of religion in the West. 110 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, very much so. 111 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 3: I think that's perhaps one of the major points, if 112 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 3: not the major points, of why the West doesn't get 113 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 3: what's going on in the Middle East. Israel gets it. 114 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 3: They're on the front lines of this war. They're the 115 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 3: point of the tip of the sphere sort of. We 116 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 3: had an interview with a man named Gil Huffman from 117 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 3: Honest Reporting, and he says, you know, this is really 118 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 3: a battle of Western civilization, and Israel is on the 119 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 3: front lines. And the reason they're are on the front 120 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 3: lines is because one of the tenets of Islam is 121 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 3: that any land that had been under the sway, under 122 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 3: the subjugation of Islam needs there's a religious duty to 123 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 3: get that land back under the sway of Islam. It's 124 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 3: called the house of war and the house of peace. 125 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 3: The house of peace is that part of the world 126 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 3: that's under Shivria Lah. The house of war is that 127 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 3: part of the world that needs to be subjugated. 128 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 2: Chris Mitchell, talking about land, let's talk about Juday and Samaria, 129 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 2: the biblical heartland. 130 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: You and I have talked about that before, but. 131 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 2: The kanesse to the Israeli administration taking some actions recently. 132 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: To not annex, no, but annex by another term. I mean, 133 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 1: it's very subtle in getting what they're doing. 134 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 2: Because even the day before Prime Minister Benjamintnahu came last 135 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 2: week to meet with the President. President Trump said he's 136 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 2: opposed to annexation. But we've seen some initiatives by Israel 137 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 2: that is taking more jurisdiction over Juday and Samaria. Yeah, 138 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 2: and one of those things is actually releasing the restrictions 139 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 2: on buying land in Judaea and Samaria for Israelis that 140 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 2: had been very. 141 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: Hard for that to do. 142 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 2: And now going back to nineteen sixty seven when the 143 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 2: Georgia Dallians had exactly some people call this de facto 144 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 2: declaration of sovereignty. 145 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 3: I don't think it's that far, but it is getting 146 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 3: a step towards that where Jews can actually buy land 147 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 3: in their biblical heartland. What a well. And this is 148 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 3: important and I talk about it a lot. 149 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 2: People really get tired of me talking about it, but 150 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 2: it is central to the identity of the Jewish people, right. 151 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 1: This is this is where it all happened. 152 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's what the international community calls the West 153 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:42,199 Speaker 2: Bank and wants to take away. 154 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 3: And this is, you know, fulfilledment of scripture, the Jewish 155 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 3: people coming back to the land after two thousand years. 156 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 3: And if you go to that quote unquote west Bank 157 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 3: of Juday and Samaria, that's where God appeared to Abram, 158 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 3: That's where Joshua divided the land between the twelve tribes. 159 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 3: You know, where Sheiloh and the Ark of the Covenant was. 160 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 3: So this is our Bible, you know, where so many 161 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 3: things that happen in the hebrewscriptures and in the New Testament. 162 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 2: So what's at risk of giving that land a way 163 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 2: for this elusive promise of peace. 164 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 3: It's very sobering because I think Joel chapter three says 165 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 3: that he enters into judgment with the nations because they 166 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 3: have divided his land and scattered his people. Because there's 167 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 3: an understanding, because we understand the spiritual ramifications. Some politicians 168 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 3: may not, but it's not you have to be sober 169 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 3: when you deal with the land of Israel. And unfortunately, 170 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 3: I think that's what's been happening in Gaza. They're kind 171 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:46,319 Speaker 3: of dividing the land. There's talk of, you know, having 172 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 3: other nations overseeing the land. This is the land of 173 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 3: the Bible. Gaza was given to the tribe of Judah, 174 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 3: and so I think you need to be very careful, 175 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 3: very sober when you're dealing with the God that was 176 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 3: promised to people. 177 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 2: Chris about twenty five seconds laugh. Sure, how can we 178 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 2: be praying for Israel? 179 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,959 Speaker 3: Pray obviously for the peace of Jerusalem, and especially now, 180 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 3: pray for wisdom for President Trump. Pray minished to Nitinia 181 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 3: who that they would make wise and godly decisions because 182 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 3: what's happening right now is Uh impacts history, impacts. 183 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: The Middle East. 184 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 3: Millions of people lives and especially inside of Ron are 185 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 3: at steak. 186 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: It's an exciting time to be in ISRAELI very much, Solf. 187 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 1: You never know what's going to happen. Yeah, no, every 188 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: day we pray for you. Thank you so much for 189 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: being with us. Thanks Tony. Chris Mitchell from CBN News 190 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:37,439 Speaker 1: Middle East Bureau Chief. Glad to have him with us. 191 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:41,439 Speaker 2: All right, coming up next, Former Congressman Michelle Bachman joins us, 192 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 2: So don't go away. We're coming back with more after this. 193 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 2: Welcome back to this week on Capitol Hill. 194 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 1: I'm Tony Perkins. Well. 195 00:10:56,600 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 2: President Donald Trump warned Iran on Thursday, make it or 196 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 2: it's over its nuclear program, or really bad things will happen. 197 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 2: He said, a potential deadline of ten to fifteen days 198 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 2: before the US might act. As tensions rise across the 199 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 2: Middle East. President Trump said talks with Tehran are good, 200 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 2: but any agreement must be meaningful. The US insists Iran 201 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 2: cannot have nuclear weapons, warning that piece depends on it. Meanwhile, 202 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 2: Iran is conducting joint military exercises with Iran. This as 203 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 2: the largest display of US military force since the invasion 204 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 2: of Iraq, so both sides seem to be flexing their 205 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 2: military muscles. Joining me now to discuss this and more. 206 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 2: Michelle Bachman, former congressman from Minnesota who is now the 207 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 2: dean of the Robertson School of Government at Regent University. 208 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 1: Michelle, welcome back to the program. Thanks for joining me. 209 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. I got to start before we 210 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 2: get into Iran. I got to talk about another crazy place, 211 00:11:58,320 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 2: what's happening in Minnesota. 212 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 4: Well, what you are seeing is an example of the 213 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 4: extreme hard progressive left that hates America. That's what you're seeing. 214 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 4: You're seeing hate America on display. And there's two lies 215 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 4: that are being pushed, and the first one is that 216 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:21,079 Speaker 4: all problems come from white people. That has been pushed. 217 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 4: It's an overarching lie. The second one is this that 218 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 4: we live on stolen land. Both of those are absolutely 219 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 4: false lies. For one thing, the Bible says we are 220 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 4: one blood, we descend from Adam and Eve, and so 221 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:39,959 Speaker 4: the problems aren't for one set of skin color. The 222 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 4: second is the stolen land aspect, the land that God 223 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 4: gave to Israel for instance, that is the cleanest land 224 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 4: on earth. God signed the deed to the Jewish people forever. 225 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 4: There's no ending point, and the same with America. And 226 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 4: we could go through a long lesson, a history lesson, 227 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 4: but no other nation has had a free and clear 228 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 4: title the way that we have and it is not stolen. 229 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 1: Is there a warning here for things to come? 230 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:12,199 Speaker 4: Yes, what you've seen in Minnesota, Minnesota has been kind 231 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 4: of the top headline in a very negative way for 232 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 4: the last two months or more, and this is what 233 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 4: you will be seeing all across America unless we push back. 234 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 4: And what we have to do to by pushing back 235 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 4: is tell the truth. Right, So we have to tell 236 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 4: the truth about what's happening. Tell the truth about the 237 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 4: lies that are being told, but tell the truth, which 238 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 4: is the truth in answer to those lies. 239 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 2: All right, let's go from Minnesota to the mulis in Iran. Hey, 240 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 2: there's a lot of mula that was sup Yeah, well 241 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:45,559 Speaker 2: that's true. That is true. You served on the House 242 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:49,559 Speaker 2: Intelligence Committee during your time in offices. That's a very 243 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 2: small group that has access to all the nation's secrets. Basically, 244 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 2: do you really think that this deal that the President 245 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 2: trying to get giving Iran ten to fifteen days to 246 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 2: respond to come to grips with the fact that they've 247 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 2: got to give up their nuclear aspirations? 248 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 1: Do you think they're going to do that? That Iran 249 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 1: will do it? So, I don't. 250 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 4: They won't be they said overtly they won't. For forty 251 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 4: seven years. They've been committed to this outcome. This is 252 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 4: the ultimate Jahad, and so they have no plan to 253 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 4: give this up and they won't. 254 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 1: The President has put if they did, it'd be a 255 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: fake out. It wouldn't be it wouldn't be true. 256 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 2: That's what Prime Minster Benjamin dan who said it is 257 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 2: the only thing you can believe. 258 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: What they say is that you can't believe what they 259 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: said exactly. That's right. 260 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 4: They've lied for forty seven years. They haven't upheld anything 261 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 4: that they've said they were going to do so past 262 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 4: this prologue. 263 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 2: And we need to be in no we've seen this 264 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 2: movie before where we see a regime top or a 265 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 2: bad guy taken out, only to be filled by a 266 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 2: worst bad guy. What happens in the least with the 267 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 2: vacuum of the regime in Iran? 268 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 4: I think the good news is the Persian people are 269 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 4: good people overall, not all, but overall they are good people, 270 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 4: educated people, smart people. For those who are a little 271 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 4: bit older, they remember what Iran was like before, a 272 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 4: very Western oriented country, completely Western oriented country, and so 273 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 4: I think that there's enough people that have that memory, 274 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 4: and so the transition, You're right, it will be very 275 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 4: dicey and whoever they choose for their leader, if they're 276 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 4: allowed to choose, and my guess is there'll be some 277 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 4: external help from other sources through this transition. There's a 278 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 4: lot writing on this, and I think we want to 279 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 4: ensure that there's ultimately a positive outcome for art. 280 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 2: Are you concerned about the broader Middle East and what 281 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 2: may happen. You know Turkey, I think, what will seize 282 00:15:56,760 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 2: an opportunity to provide more of a a leadership in 283 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 2: the Islamic world. 284 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 4: Well, they do because Airdawan sees himself as the caliph 285 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 4: and for a new caliphate, meaning a new control of 286 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 4: Islam over the entire Middle East, and so they intend 287 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 4: to dominate Israel. They intend to dominate. But those plans 288 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 4: made in all likelihood won't come to fruition. But we 289 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 4: know what the Bible says about Iran, Turkey, Russia in 290 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 4: the future. 291 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 2: Now, I was talking with Chris Mitchell. You heard our 292 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 2: conversation here before this live audience at NRB. You have 293 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 2: been the co chair of the Jerusalem Prayer Breakfast. You 294 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 2: spent a lot of time in Israel. It's a passion 295 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 2: of yours. Are you concerned about what's kind of developing 296 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 2: with the Peace Board and with Hamas and with Gaza. 297 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 2: I'm absolutely concerned. I think the United States is on 298 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 2: a knife edge. 299 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 4: The President of the United States is the greatest pro 300 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 4: visual president we've ever had. However, the President in his 301 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:04,360 Speaker 4: first term revealed his peace to Prosperity plan that envisioned 302 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 4: a division of the land, just as Chris Mitchell said, 303 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:10,880 Speaker 4: a violation of Joel Chapter three, verses one through three. 304 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 4: Because God only holds nations to one criteria, how do 305 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 4: they treat Zion? And they may not divide the land. 306 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 4: President Trump's first iteration in his first term had a 307 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 4: plan that would divide the land. The same individual, Jared Krishner, 308 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 4: just today was named the Envoy for Peace and his 309 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:34,879 Speaker 4: viewpoint has been a two state solution, meaning division of 310 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 4: the land, taking away God's given land to Israel and 311 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 4: taking a part of May and Judaea, Samar and now 312 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 4: Gaza and giving that to a terrorist enterprise. It would 313 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 4: be the Islamic State of Palestine, and it would be 314 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 4: a terrorist state. It'd be a tragedy, but it would 315 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:58,199 Speaker 4: be more of a spiritual tragedy for America that I 316 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 4: think would lead to tremendous physical consequences for us. The 317 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 4: judgment that goes along with that is a godly judgment, 318 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 4: and at our peril, we would seek to divide the land. 319 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 4: That is my greatest concern right now, Tony, is that 320 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:18,679 Speaker 4: a decision will be made by this administration to divide 321 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 4: the land, and then that would bring immediate consequences for 322 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 4: judgment to America. 323 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 1: Twenty five seconds. 324 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 2: Is Cutter and Turkey weighing in and influencing this administration. 325 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 4: Oh, without a doubt. And it's with money. Through money, 326 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 4: they are influencing. And they have struck deals with Jared 327 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 4: Kushner who's been appointed as the Envoy for peace, and 328 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 4: so there is like a direct conflict of interest. I'm 329 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 4: not suggesting corruption, but there is a conflict of interest. 330 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 4: I think it's unwise to have people who are doing 331 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 4: business deals to also be involved in calling the shots 332 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 4: on American foreign policy, especially regarding Israel. 333 00:18:57,240 --> 00:18:59,120 Speaker 1: It was along twenty five seconds. I've got a few 334 00:18:59,119 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 1: more seconds. 335 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 2: How should we be praying over this particular situation, As 336 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 2: Chris Mitchell is. 337 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 4: Talking about, we need to pray according to scripture, and 338 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:10,160 Speaker 4: so we have to pray for those who are in authority, 339 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 4: that they will be in alignment with the word of God, 340 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 4: meaning that they will follow Joel chapter three, they'll follow 341 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:21,880 Speaker 4: Zechariah two, they will follow Genesis twelve three, meaning all 342 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 4: of them say bless Israel, don't curse, bless the land. 343 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 4: God's covenant is the people the land to be a 344 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 4: blessing to all people on earth. 345 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:35,360 Speaker 2: Congressman Congresswoman Michelle Bachman, thank you so much. 346 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: Thank you, Tony. All right, folks, stick with us. 347 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 5: On the other side of the break, Congressman John Rhoades 348 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 5: joins us, don't go away. We're back with more right 349 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 5: after this. Welcome back to this week on Capitol Hill. 350 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:55,879 Speaker 5: I'm your host, Tony Perkins. 351 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 2: We're broadcasting before a live audience at the National Religious 352 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 2: b Podcasters Convention in Nashville, Tennessee. Well, a coalition of 353 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 2: sixty members of Congress have submitted an amicus brief to 354 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 2: the US District Court for the Western District of Louisiana 355 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:19,679 Speaker 2: in support of Louisiana's lawsuit. Now that Louisiana is filing 356 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:25,959 Speaker 2: a lawsuit against the FDA over the dispensing requirements that 357 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 2: are not in place for mipha press stone, which is 358 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 2: the deadly abortion drug that's being sent via mail without 359 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 2: medical consultation into states across the nation. Congressman John Rose 360 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 2: was one of the sixty lawmakers who signed that amicus, 361 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 2: and he joins us now here in Nashville, which happens 362 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 2: to be your district, got it, thrice, Welcome to the stick. 363 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: Well, thank you, it's good to be here. 364 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 2: Congresson Row serves on the House Financial Services Committee and 365 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:56,879 Speaker 2: the House Agriculture Committee. 366 00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:00,440 Speaker 6: FFACT comes from a family of farmers. That's right, generation 367 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 6: Tennessee farmer. 368 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:02,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. 369 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 2: Boy, you've been digging in the ground a long time. 370 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 2: So let's talk about you. Remember the House Pro Life Caucus. 371 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 2: We're here in the sixth Congressional District of Tennessee. You've 372 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 2: signed on to this amicus brief. You've been very clear 373 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 2: about where you stand on life. Absolutely staunchly pro life. 374 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 2: I think we have to do everything we can to 375 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 2: protect the onborn. 376 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 1: Are you concerned about methylpres stone and the fact that 377 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 1: many states that have pro life laws are being undermined 378 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 1: by this policy allowing this is a Biden era policy 379 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: that's allowing these drugs to be mailed into the states. 380 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 6: Absolutely gratefully concerned, not just because it sidesteps our laws 381 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 6: to protect life, but because it puts so many women 382 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 6: in danger of their health and safety and danger well, 383 00:21:54,520 --> 00:22:00,200 Speaker 6: we've seen that the the there's. 384 00:21:58,200 --> 00:21:59,919 Speaker 2: Been studies that you have at eleven percent of these 385 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 2: women have adverse of facts as a result of this, 386 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 2: end up in emergency rooms because they're not having that 387 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 2: medical consultation in advance. So it is it's obviously deadly 388 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 2: for the baby, but it's also proven deadly for many 389 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 2: of the women as well. I want to talk about 390 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,920 Speaker 2: another measure that right before Congress up, you've been on recess. 391 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 2: This week, right before Congress left, you pass the Save 392 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:27,120 Speaker 2: America Act, which deals with voting. 393 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 1: Talk about that. 394 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 6: Sure, So, Congress the House over four hundred days ago. 395 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 6: Last year we pay past the Save Act, and unfortunately 396 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 6: it's never gotten a hearing in this Senate. 397 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 1: Very frustrated about that. 398 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 6: But this past week, eight days ago, we passed the 399 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 6: Save America Act, which goes as step further. 400 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 1: This is an issue that eighty three percent. 401 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 6: Of Americans agree on that you ought to be provide 402 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 6: proof that you're a citizen in order to vote, and 403 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 6: that you ought to have a photo ID when you 404 00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 6: show up. 405 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 2: To vote, when you vote in Congress, when you vote, 406 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 2: when you cast a vote for your constituents. 407 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,679 Speaker 1: Do you not have to have an ID card? Absolutely? 408 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 1: The Democrats don't have to have one. It's just a 409 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: Republican right now. They have one too. 410 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,919 Speaker 5: Yes, really, they have an ID card that they have 411 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:16,160 Speaker 5: to vote with, that's right. 412 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 1: So they use an ID card. 413 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 2: To vote with but they don't think American citizens should 414 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 2: have an ID card. 415 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 6: That's right, And you know, the government we're in to 416 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 6: shutdown a partial government shutdown right now. One of the 417 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 6: demands that they're making is that they want ICE agents 418 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 6: to have a photo ID with them when they're in 419 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 6: the field doing their work. And so they're shutting down 420 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 6: the government to demand that that'd be implemented as a requirement. 421 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 6: But then they vote against a bill that eighty three 422 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 6: percent of Americans, seventy one percent of Democrats support this issue. 423 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 1: You can't make that stuff up, you cannot. So it 424 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 1: passed the House. In fact, it was bipartisan partisan. We 425 00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 1: got one Democratic vote. 426 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:05,439 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I just got to text the Speaker is 427 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 5: taxing down the runways. 428 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:08,439 Speaker 1: He's going to be joining us in the next segment. 429 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 1: So that's good news. The bill now goes to the House, 430 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 1: but the future of it's uncertain. I'm sorry. It goes 431 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 1: to the Senate, but the future of it is uncertain. 432 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 1: That's right. 433 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:24,639 Speaker 6: So far, Leader Thoon on the Senate side has not 434 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 6: taken up the Save Act from last year. Yet to 435 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 6: be seen if he will take up the Save America 436 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 6: Act despite this overwhelming support from American citizens, and it's 437 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 6: critical that we get this done while Republicans control Congress, 438 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 6: and we hope that goes on, but we have to 439 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 6: secure the elections in this country. It is the most 440 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 6: fundamental of things that I think that Congress is a 441 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 6: duty to the American people to do. And we've all 442 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 6: seen in recent years how our elections have run off 443 00:24:56,200 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 6: the rails in twenty twenty in other cases, and we 444 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 6: simply have to push back and make sure that we 445 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 6: safeguard the integrity of the vote. 446 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 1: It's important to. 447 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 2: We're almost out of time, but I would encourage people 448 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 2: to contact their senators to say, take up this measure, 449 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 2: protect our votes, make sure that our votes count. 450 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: That's right, and the Senate. 451 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 6: You know, it might take some time in the Senate, 452 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 6: but I think it would be worth the investment. I 453 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 6: think there's nothing more fundamental than to preserving the Republic 454 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 6: than to safeguard the sanctity of the vote. Congressman John Rose, 455 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 6: thanks so much for joining us, Thanks for having me. 456 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,640 Speaker 2: All right, votes stick with us on the other side 457 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,160 Speaker 2: of the voice will be ruined by House Speaker Mike Johnson. 458 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 1: If we don't go anywhere. 459 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 2: Welcome back to this week on Capitol Hill as we 460 00:25:55,119 --> 00:26:01,360 Speaker 2: broadcast from Nashville, Tennessee at the National Resigious Religious Broadcasters 461 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 2: Convention here in Nashville before a live audience. Well after 462 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 2: Senate Democrats rejected both a full year bill and a 463 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:16,640 Speaker 2: short term continuing resolution, the partial Department of Homeland Security 464 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 2: shutdown continued throughout the week, with senators from both parties 465 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 2: on call to hustle back to Capitol Hill in case 466 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 2: a breakthrough emerged. Well, no breakthrough came about, However, many 467 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 2: observers say this stalemate could drag on for a while. 468 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 5: Now. 469 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 2: Next week we have the President's State of the Union 470 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 2: address before a joint sestion of Congress. Will the shutdown 471 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,160 Speaker 2: be the backdrop? Joining us now to talk about this 472 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 2: in our weekly Conversations. House Speaker Mike Johnson represents the 473 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:53,880 Speaker 2: fourth Congressional District of Louisiana and he joins us from Texas. 474 00:26:54,119 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 7: Mister speaker, welcome to this week on Capitol Hill. Thanks 475 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 7: so much, Tony. With the marvel of technology, I can 476 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 7: talk to you live. You're in Nashville, Lemon, Dallas on 477 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 7: the tarmac literally just landed here. We have a big 478 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 7: day of events and fundraising in Dallas for work tomorrow 479 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 7: leading into the midterms. But yes, indeed, Tony, the coming 480 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 7: week is going to be an historic one. The President 481 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,879 Speaker 7: is excited about his State of the Union address, and 482 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 7: we've been excited to welcome him. 483 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 1: It's going to be an epic speech because he. 484 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 7: Has so much to tout about everything that we've been 485 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,159 Speaker 7: able to accomplish after the first year of his second 486 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 7: term and historic run, and so much more ahead of us. 487 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 7: But the big question that looms, as you said, is 488 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 7: whether the government will be open or not. I hate 489 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,879 Speaker 7: to tell you this, but the latest news is, Tony, 490 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 7: I do not expect that it will be I'm afraid 491 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 7: the Democrats are playing games with this once again. 492 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 2: So so what that factor into the president's comments on 493 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 2: Tuesday night. 494 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:56,160 Speaker 1: I think it will. 495 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,879 Speaker 7: I think he's frustrated as I am, as all of 496 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,639 Speaker 7: us are. Democrats are willing to play games with this. 497 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 7: They're not negotiating in good faith. They've made terms to 498 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 7: reopen the government fully that they know cannot be fulfilled. 499 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 7: And it's as if they're trying to use this for 500 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 7: political purposes. 501 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 1: Go figure. 502 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 7: It's got a backfire on them, Tony, because the agencies 503 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,399 Speaker 7: that they've closed down here that the agencies within the 504 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 7: Department of Homeland Security do exactly what the name suggests, 505 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 7: they keep the homeland safe. And you're talking about agencies 506 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:31,360 Speaker 7: as we've discussed, like FEMA, like the Coast Guard. I mean, 507 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 7: you've got agencies like TSA that keep us safe in 508 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 7: the airports here as we're going through all of these 509 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 7: trying to get onto our flights, and the Coast Guard 510 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 7: and so many other things. And it's really a foolish 511 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 7: and dangerous gambit that they're playing, and I think the 512 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 7: President's had about enough of it. 513 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 1: So let me ask you this question. 514 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 2: I'm hearing that some of your Democratic colleagues are going 515 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 2: to boycott the President's State of the Union. 516 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 1: Are you anticipate some vacant seats? 517 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 7: Yes, I do have counter programming that there's a couple 518 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 7: of different, you know, basically protest rallies that I think 519 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 7: some of them are going to attend. I hope most 520 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 7: of them will act like grown ups and you know, 521 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 7: fulfilled the dignity of their offices. They're supposed to be 522 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 7: representing each of us, about seven hundred and fifty or 523 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 7: eighty thousand people, and to have the seat appsent, I 524 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 7: think is a very bad look for them. Look, we've 525 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 7: attended State of the Unions when President Biden was there, 526 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 7: when when you know, leaders of other parties were addressed 527 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 7: in the body. You don't have to agree with everything 528 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 7: that's said, but you do have a role to play, 529 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 7: and I think the decorum of the occasion, you know, 530 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 7: is what should come through. I also expect Tony and 531 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 7: I hope I'm wrong about this, and some of them 532 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 7: will try to stage a disturbance on the on the 533 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 7: House floor. And you remember in the last joint address 534 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 7: that the President gave, I had to actually have someone 535 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 7: objected from the floor for the first time. That's a 536 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 7: really sad occasion. It's a really bad look for the institution, 537 00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 7: and I hope they don't do that. 538 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 2: I want to camp out on that for just a moment, 539 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 2: mister Speaker. The decorum, I mean, you may disagree maybe 540 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 2: a different party that's in power, but there is a 541 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:13,959 Speaker 2: certain decorum responsibility to be a representative of the people. 542 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 2: And this was something before you ascended to the Speaker's 543 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 2: chair that you were concerned about the incivility that we 544 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,719 Speaker 2: see in our process. I would have to say that 545 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 2: your concern has only grown. 546 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 7: It has, And you know, I've been in Congress a 547 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 7: little over nine years now, and we've seen the korum 548 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 7: devolve since that time, just over that period, with the 549 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 7: rise of social media and how ubiquitous it is in 550 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 7: politics now, how toxic it is to the system, the 551 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 7: algorithms doubling down on people's biases and all the rest. 552 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 7: We have a larger division between the parties and really 553 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 7: in society than we've had maybe since the era of 554 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 7: the Civil War. So it all comes out in a 555 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 7: live broadcast when Congress has assembled. 556 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 1: Wish that it would not. 557 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 7: When I was new to Congress, as you mentioned, I 558 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 7: got authorate document called the Commitment to Civility. You got 559 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 7: everyone in my freshman class at one hundred and fifteen 560 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 7: Congress back in twenty seventeen to sign on both parties 561 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 7: to say we were treating one another with dignity and respect. 562 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 7: Even if we disagree, we'll do it in an agreeable manner. Basically, 563 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:22,239 Speaker 7: I restated the Golden Rule and got everybody to sign on, 564 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 7: and they held that commitment for a while. But things 565 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 7: have gotten pretty bad now. Honestly, everybody can see it. 566 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 7: I'm really intent on trying to get us back to 567 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 7: the old ways, to the decorum, to the respect and 568 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 7: the dignity of the offices that we hold, and hopefully 569 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 7: the state of the Union is a knight that we 570 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 7: can highlight that we'll see how it goes. I'm appealing 571 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 7: to all the Republicans. I'm ordering them all to be 572 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 7: on their best behavior. I expect that if they will, 573 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 7: it's the Democrats I'm worried about. And we'll see how 574 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 7: it goes well. We'll be praying. We'll encourage our viewers 575 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 7: and listeners to be praying to that end. Mister speaker, 576 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 7: I know we got a couple minutes left. 577 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 2: I know you're traveling the country, and so the midterm 578 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 2: elections that are approaching, I mean, the House is narrowly divided, 579 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 2: the majority is hanging in the balance. What are the 580 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 2: three top issues that you are hearing and that you're 581 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 2: also using to talk to voters that differentiate the Republicans from. 582 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 7: The Democrats running on our record, I'm very bullish about 583 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 7: the midterms. I'm convinced that we're going to grow this majority. 584 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 7: So I have a margin larger than one, which is 585 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 7: what it is right now. And the reason I'm confident 586 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 7: will win Tony is because we have delivered on our promises. 587 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 1: This promises made, promises kept. 588 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 7: I think a lot of the attentions on the economy 589 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 7: and that is beginning to rise again because of the 590 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 7: policies that we instituted, the big beautiful bill to work 591 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 7: with family's tax cuts and all the rest of it. 592 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 7: And people are grateful that we got the border secure, 593 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 7: but now they're concerned about that illegal immigration, about making 594 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,479 Speaker 7: sure that we're upholding the rule of law, defending the borders, 595 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 7: but also deporting dangerous illegals who are here. 596 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 1: That'll be a continuing dem And. 597 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 7: Of course what we're doing going forward to bring down 598 00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 7: the cost of living, it is Republican and the Republican 599 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 7: Party that have the ideas to make life more affordable again, 600 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 7: not the Democrats. Look at the latest example in New 601 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 7: York City with the mayor sayt he wants to raise taxes. 602 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 7: That's just a little glimmer, a little picture of what 603 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 7: you'd get if Democrats take over again. Chaos, higher taxes, 604 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 7: an impeachment of the president. That is not what we 605 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 7: need right now. 606 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 2: Mister speaker, I want to thank you for taking time 607 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 2: to join US today, and safe travels as you move 608 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 2: about the country, and we will see you in Washington 609 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:28,959 Speaker 2: next week. 610 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 1: Thank you, brother, good to talk with you. God bless everybody. 611 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 2: House Speaker Mike Johnson on the road taking the message 612 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 2: of the Republicans to the voters. 613 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 1: Stick around. 614 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 2: We've got a few final thoughts after the break. Welcome 615 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 2: back to this week on Capitol Hill. 616 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 1: Well. 617 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 2: The recent storming of Cities Church in Saint Paul by 618 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 2: Don Lemon and Crewe has once again put a spotlight 619 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 2: on the growing hostility toward orthodox religious beliefs here in 620 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:08,280 Speaker 2: the United States. It was not an isolated confrontation over ice. 621 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 2: It was a snapshot of something deeper unfolding in our culture. 622 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 2: According to Family Research Councils Hostility against Churches Report, the 623 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 2: previous six years shows a troubling escalation in incidents targeting 624 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 2: US churches. FRC documented fifty incidents in twenty eighteen eighty 625 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,759 Speaker 2: three and twenty nineteen, fifty five in twenty twenty, and 626 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,759 Speaker 2: ninety eight in twenty twenty one. Then came a dramatic 627 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 2: spike after the overturn of Roe v. Wade, one hundred 628 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 2: and ninety eight incidents in twenty twenty two, and that 629 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,720 Speaker 2: was followed by four hundred and eighty five in twenty 630 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 2: twenty three. The year later, it leveled off at four 631 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:46,759 Speaker 2: hundred and fifteen incidents. The elevated number reveals a new 632 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:50,359 Speaker 2: norm of hostility. Now here's the question we need to ask. 633 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:55,440 Speaker 2: Is hostility toward religious exercise expanding beyond vandalism and threats 634 00:34:55,480 --> 00:35:01,759 Speaker 2: and becoming institutional resistance? We have it's increasing pressure on 635 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 2: conscience protections in healthcare. We've seen faith based adoption and 636 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,840 Speaker 2: foster care providers forced out of states for adhering to 637 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:13,279 Speaker 2: biblical truth. We've watched regulatory agencies treat religious organizations not 638 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,839 Speaker 2: as partners in civil society, but as obstacles to their 639 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:21,759 Speaker 2: ideological agendas. This is not merely about broken windows, graffiti, 640 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,800 Speaker 2: or even firebombs. It is about a shifting cultural posture 641 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 2: toward faith itself. Yet, this is where we must look 642 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 2: beyond the fog of the cultural war and recognize what 643 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:38,279 Speaker 2: is really happening. Religious exercise is on the march. If 644 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:42,720 Speaker 2: religious liberty becomes only a defensive battle court cases, injunctions, 645 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:48,319 Speaker 2: reactive legislation, we risk narrowing the focus to survival. But 646 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,840 Speaker 2: religious liberty was never intended merely to shield private belief. 647 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 2: It was designed to protect public witness. The First Amendment 648 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:59,239 Speaker 2: does not secure faith in a fortified lock box. It 649 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:03,440 Speaker 2: protects its free exercise. And that means religious liberty is 650 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 2: not only something to defend, it is something to exercise. 651 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 2: Members of Congress who pray openly, who allow conviction to 652 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 2: shape their votes, who speak about transcendent moral truth in 653 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:18,839 Speaker 2: committee hearings, They're not violating the Constitution, They're living within it. 654 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,960 Speaker 2: Pastors who engage public issues from the pulpit are not 655 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 2: trespassing into politics. They're exercising their God given responsibility to 656 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:32,720 Speaker 2: speak truth. Has hostility increased, Yes, Hostility rises when faith 657 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 2: refuses to retreat, And across his country, believers are refusing 658 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,719 Speaker 2: to retreat. Over the last decade, hundreds of Christian men 659 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,840 Speaker 2: and women have answered God's call to step into the 660 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 2: realm of government without checking their faith at the door. 661 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,760 Speaker 2: That has the forces of spiritual darkness behind the profits 662 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:53,920 Speaker 2: of secularism deeply troubled because they're losing ground. 663 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,880 Speaker 1: The ultimate question before us in Washington, d C. And 664 00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,880 Speaker 1: across the nation is not whether religious liberty survives on paper. 665 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 1: It is whether it is lived out with conviction. 666 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 2: Religious liberty is strongest when it is visible, when it's 667 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:16,760 Speaker 2: exercised with humility, confidence, encourage. When believers live their convictions openly, serving, speaking, legislating, praying, 668 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 2: then religious liberty becomes more than a defensive line. 669 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:25,719 Speaker 1: It becomes a transforming testimony. Religious freedom is not being 670 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 1: attacked because it is in retreat, just the opposite, because 671 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:34,040 Speaker 1: it is advancing. That has been this week on Capitol Hill.