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Speaker 1: Here's one of our favorite clips. We didn't share it

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Speaker 2: Take a look here in California.

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Speaker 3: What makes this hospice and whole healthcare fraud so hard

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Speaker 3: and that is over twelve thousand claims. The velocity of

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Speaker 3: Are they going back to Arminia, Are they going back

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Speaker 3: But that is what the business model the hospice is is.

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Speaker 3: They just literally rent out these small little suites, charge

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Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom's California. He wants your city to look like this.

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Speaker 1: Mark my words, that's what will happen. Speaking of Gavin Newsom,

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Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom must be held accountable. Then we showed you

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Speaker 1: a moratorium on new hospice licenses beginning in twenty twenty one. Okay, so,

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Speaker 1: First of all, it's Donald Trump's Medicare program according to

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Speaker 1: the Gavin news Some press office, and yet his state

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Speaker 1: For the last five years, there had been no new

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Speaker 1: to be proud of. I've got an idea. How about

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Speaker 1: suppose because he's a Blue Sky sick. Ephant tried to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, surely's done it again. He showed up to a

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Speaker 1: Basically accused, baselessly accused people of fraud, then cited state

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Speaker 1: records which directly contradict his claims. Classic Nick Shirley formula.

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Speaker 1: And here here's an investigative finding that he's showing here.

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Speaker 1: But if you notice it's dated September eighth, twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 1: This is for a licensing program. Excuse me for the

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Speaker 2: This is all Donald Trump's federal program. We don't have

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Speaker 1: Oh really, then, who are these licensing program analysts working

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Speaker 1: site evaluation report. Here's the one from twenty three for

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Speaker 1: Shirley says he exposed one hundred and seventy million dollars

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Speaker 1: but that's okay. Let's see what the professional journalists are

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Speaker 1: But actually it's much worse than that. Let's read this together,

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Speaker 1: shall we. Thick Shirley's latest video is forty minutes long,

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Speaker 3: So predictably, yes, being the capital of Silicon Valley, we

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Speaker 1: We're going to keep asking for taxes from everybody because

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