1 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: Life Audio. 2 00:00:04,140 --> 00:00:07,140 Speaker 2: But there is nothing that will shipwreck a life, a relationship, 3 00:00:07,220 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 2: a family, and a future faster than poor financial stewardship. 4 00:00:10,940 --> 00:00:12,500 Speaker 2: You know, is this a faith issue? Do I just 5 00:00:12,850 --> 00:00:15,130 Speaker 2: need to trust God more? Do I need to prepare more? 6 00:00:15,290 --> 00:00:17,590 Speaker 1: You went to work and you felt the need that 7 00:00:17,630 --> 00:00:19,690 Speaker 1: God wanted you to go to work and save and 8 00:00:19,730 --> 00:00:23,349 Speaker 1: prepare for the future. This is no different. But don't 9 00:00:23,450 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 1: take it for a second that he just intends for 10 00:00:25,980 --> 00:00:29,300 Speaker 1: you to stay still. Moses said when they were backed 11 00:00:29,340 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 1: up against the Red Sea, he's like, stand still and 12 00:00:32,220 --> 00:00:34,480 Speaker 1: see the salvation of the Lord. But God turned around 13 00:00:34,500 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: and said, I didn't tell you to stand still. Go 14 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 1: stretch out your rod. You got to go forward. You 15 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:39,780 Speaker 1: do need to start marching. 16 00:00:41,380 --> 00:00:43,730 Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to the March or Die show today. 17 00:00:43,830 --> 00:00:47,669 Speaker 2: Very glad to have you joining us as always. And 18 00:00:48,050 --> 00:00:50,030 Speaker 2: this is very important. I'm going to use the tagline 19 00:00:50,050 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 2: we use. I'm going to talk about why That's more 20 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 2: important today maybe than normal. But our tagline, if you've 21 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 2: watched the show, is giving you the principles and perspectives 22 00:00:59,460 --> 00:01:01,380 Speaker 2: you need to march when it would be easier to 23 00:01:01,420 --> 00:01:04,650 Speaker 2: stay where you are and die. The principles and perspectives 24 00:01:04,670 --> 00:01:07,070 Speaker 2: you need to march when it would be easier to 25 00:01:07,110 --> 00:01:09,590 Speaker 2: stay where you are and die. We talk about all 26 00:01:09,690 --> 00:01:12,910 Speaker 2: kinds of things on this show, of course. But one 27 00:01:12,930 --> 00:01:15,550 Speaker 2: of the areas that I have not spent time really 28 00:01:15,590 --> 00:01:18,140 Speaker 2: talking about, I've addressed it kind of in passing but 29 00:01:18,180 --> 00:01:23,860 Speaker 2: not specifically previously, is financial stewardship. And man, if there 30 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:28,419 Speaker 2: is a topic or an issue that will prevent us 31 00:01:28,500 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 2: from moving forward in our lives, it is a lack 32 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:36,250 Speaker 2: of good financial stewardship. I think as Christians, we often 33 00:01:36,750 --> 00:01:40,390 Speaker 2: are really good on spiritual stewardship. And we talk about 34 00:01:40,410 --> 00:01:42,370 Speaker 2: parenting and we talk about being the men and women 35 00:01:42,410 --> 00:01:45,070 Speaker 2: God created us to be. Wonderful and important, of course. 36 00:01:45,910 --> 00:01:48,050 Speaker 2: We can talk about physical stewardship when you take care 37 00:01:48,070 --> 00:01:50,830 Speaker 2: of the bodies that God's given to us. And those 38 00:01:50,870 --> 00:01:54,030 Speaker 2: things are more tangible in a sense, but there is 39 00:01:54,090 --> 00:01:57,250 Speaker 2: nothing that will shipwreck a life, a relationship, a family, 40 00:01:57,370 --> 00:02:00,290 Speaker 2: and a future faster than poor financial stewardship. So I 41 00:02:00,350 --> 00:02:03,230 Speaker 2: am very thankful to have on today, David Holland. David, 42 00:02:03,350 --> 00:02:05,950 Speaker 2: thank you for being with us today. Really appreciate it. 43 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: Absolutely, Jeremy. It's a pleasure to be here. As always, 44 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:15,260 Speaker 1: enjoy the program. And the theme is very, is very 45 00:02:15,780 --> 00:02:18,380 Speaker 1: relevant to the world we live in, especially right now. 46 00:02:18,700 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot of, a lot of, a 47 00:02:20,580 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: lot of chaos out there and giving clarity there is 48 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:23,890 Speaker 1: very important. So I appreciate that. 49 00:02:24,210 --> 00:02:26,329 Speaker 2: Yeah, man, there is, there's a lot of chaos and 50 00:02:26,370 --> 00:02:29,210 Speaker 2: giving clarity. I, I, you know, just as a dad 51 00:02:29,250 --> 00:02:33,810 Speaker 2: and a husband and trying to navigate finances, our kids, 52 00:02:33,870 --> 00:02:35,900 Speaker 2: some of them are older and some of them are 53 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:38,540 Speaker 2: younger and just trying to understand it. And then everything 54 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 2: that we hear on the news, it's, it's, It really 55 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 2: pushes at least me and my spirit into a place 56 00:02:44,380 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 2: where I just want to go into a hole and 57 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:49,100 Speaker 2: hang on and hope we make it. But we know 58 00:02:49,139 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 2: that's not the right answer. First of all, as Christians, really, 59 00:02:52,180 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 2: that's not the right answer. But then as stewards of 60 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:57,540 Speaker 2: what God's given to us. And so, man, I appreciate 61 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:00,260 Speaker 2: you coming on. This is unique for the show in 62 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:01,959 Speaker 2: that we're going to do two episodes. We've got a 63 00:03:01,980 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 2: lot to cover. And so we're going to do this 64 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,930 Speaker 2: in two episodes. And there's a reason for that. You 65 00:03:07,060 --> 00:03:12,010 Speaker 2: are the president and founder of Alpha Omega Gold. And 66 00:03:12,070 --> 00:03:14,370 Speaker 2: you have a very, very interesting story. We were introduced 67 00:03:14,430 --> 00:03:17,210 Speaker 2: through a mutual friend. You have a very interesting story 68 00:03:17,230 --> 00:03:19,170 Speaker 2: about how you got to doing what you're doing today. 69 00:03:20,030 --> 00:03:24,230 Speaker 2: And again, extremely relevant. So let's just start there. Give 70 00:03:24,270 --> 00:03:26,590 Speaker 2: us some of your background. You have not always been 71 00:03:26,630 --> 00:03:30,390 Speaker 2: involved in what you're doing now, but made a decision 72 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:31,940 Speaker 2: at some point along the way, this is where you 73 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 2: needed to end up. So talk about your family a 74 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:35,980 Speaker 2: little bit and how we got where we are today. 75 00:03:36,740 --> 00:03:40,390 Speaker 1: Absolutely. Well, It's easy to talk about my family because 76 00:03:40,450 --> 00:03:46,130 Speaker 1: they're pretty important, right? They're very central to me. I 77 00:03:46,210 --> 00:03:49,620 Speaker 1: realized that if I didn't have them, if I wasn't 78 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:53,260 Speaker 1: a father of six and a husband of the most 79 00:03:53,300 --> 00:03:56,860 Speaker 1: wonderful wife in the world, how men get, it's like 80 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:00,100 Speaker 1: I would shudder to think where God would have directed me. 81 00:04:00,190 --> 00:04:03,510 Speaker 1: But you're right. Where I'm at, what I'm doing right 82 00:04:03,570 --> 00:04:09,260 Speaker 1: now is, I wouldn't say... I planned it out. At 83 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:11,650 Speaker 1: some point in life, and I would say mine probably 84 00:04:11,690 --> 00:04:14,810 Speaker 1: started in my you know, it started when I was younger, right? 85 00:04:14,830 --> 00:04:17,110 Speaker 1: Cause you always get these early directions, but lots of 86 00:04:17,150 --> 00:04:19,510 Speaker 1: times when you're younger, you have more energy and you 87 00:04:19,529 --> 00:04:25,650 Speaker 1: have more, um, um, more time, right. To do things, uh, 88 00:04:25,730 --> 00:04:28,289 Speaker 1: and make mistakes and not really, you know, follow what 89 00:04:28,330 --> 00:04:31,210 Speaker 1: God's leading you to do. But, uh, in my life, 90 00:04:31,330 --> 00:04:34,330 Speaker 1: it was, it was, you know, probably no different. Um, I, 91 00:04:34,500 --> 00:04:37,529 Speaker 1: you know, when I was younger, I felt a call into, uh, 92 00:04:38,210 --> 00:04:42,270 Speaker 1: ministry of sorts to just, you know, be a minister 93 00:04:42,410 --> 00:04:44,730 Speaker 1: of some sort. I didn't have like, hey, I want 94 00:04:44,750 --> 00:04:46,380 Speaker 1: to be a pastor. Hey, I wanted to be an 95 00:04:46,420 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: evangelist or a missionary, you know. It was just, you know, 96 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:52,460 Speaker 1: felt God leading me to do something. But I wouldn't 97 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 1: have thought from that time, you know, when I was 16, 98 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: 17 years old to, you know, my mid-30s where life or, 99 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:01,290 Speaker 1: you know, it was kind of a stopover in my 100 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:03,830 Speaker 1: early 20s. But, you know, God really got a hold 101 00:05:03,890 --> 00:05:06,250 Speaker 1: of me. And I drifted quite a bit just trying 102 00:05:06,270 --> 00:05:09,380 Speaker 1: to figure out, you know, God gives you direction, but 103 00:05:09,420 --> 00:05:11,140 Speaker 1: you don't really know what to do with it. It's 104 00:05:11,180 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 1: like God hands you a photo and says, hey, go 105 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 1: find this place. And you're like, I don't really know. 106 00:05:16,339 --> 00:05:17,919 Speaker 1: And I don't, you know, I have my own things 107 00:05:17,980 --> 00:05:20,660 Speaker 1: I want to do. So needless to say, I'll make 108 00:05:20,700 --> 00:05:23,860 Speaker 1: a long story short, you know, through God just really 109 00:05:23,980 --> 00:05:26,900 Speaker 1: kind of stopping things in my life. And I realized 110 00:05:26,940 --> 00:05:28,980 Speaker 1: at that point, you know, looking back and even while 111 00:05:29,020 --> 00:05:31,730 Speaker 1: I was in it, when God just kind of, forcibly 112 00:05:31,770 --> 00:05:35,670 Speaker 1: halts you like he did Jonah, for instance. Jonah was 113 00:05:35,710 --> 00:05:39,230 Speaker 1: there on the ship. And it's interesting, the Bible uses 114 00:05:39,270 --> 00:05:43,910 Speaker 1: the phrases that God prepared the ship for Jonah and 115 00:05:43,930 --> 00:05:47,750 Speaker 1: he prepared the fish for Jonah. And those things that 116 00:05:47,790 --> 00:05:50,570 Speaker 1: were difficult for him because of what he was trying 117 00:05:50,589 --> 00:05:53,630 Speaker 1: to do on his own were a blessing. And so 118 00:05:53,750 --> 00:05:56,550 Speaker 1: for me, it was no different. God just kind of 119 00:05:56,589 --> 00:06:00,420 Speaker 1: locked up my life and I couldn't get past things. 120 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:02,890 Speaker 1: I couldn't I went to college, I did well, but 121 00:06:02,910 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 1: I couldn't get to the point to where I could 122 00:06:05,380 --> 00:06:08,220 Speaker 1: overcome some challenges I was having. So I just, I 123 00:06:08,260 --> 00:06:11,820 Speaker 1: had to quit and through a whole long process of God, 124 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:14,099 Speaker 1: basically just letting me go all the way to the bottom, 125 00:06:14,260 --> 00:06:18,970 Speaker 1: if you will. And then, and kind of resurrecting me 126 00:06:19,089 --> 00:06:20,750 Speaker 1: out of that and then meeting my wife at the 127 00:06:20,810 --> 00:06:24,010 Speaker 1: same time. He really set me, you know, on the 128 00:06:24,029 --> 00:06:26,190 Speaker 1: path to go straight. So I did my best, you know, 129 00:06:26,290 --> 00:06:28,850 Speaker 1: from that point, I was faithful husband, me and my 130 00:06:28,890 --> 00:06:33,419 Speaker 1: wife started having kids and, somewhere around after the fourth child, 131 00:06:33,460 --> 00:06:35,660 Speaker 1: we were still living in Texas at the time and 132 00:06:37,140 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: just had all of a sudden the same thing started 133 00:06:39,980 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: happening again. Life started locking up. And so God said, 134 00:06:43,350 --> 00:06:44,950 Speaker 1: you know, I need you to go do something. I 135 00:06:44,990 --> 00:06:47,770 Speaker 1: called you back way back then. And so I, you know, 136 00:06:47,890 --> 00:06:50,130 Speaker 1: submitted at that point and said, okay, I'm gonna head 137 00:06:50,170 --> 00:06:53,810 Speaker 1: to California. We ended up going to a Bible college 138 00:06:53,830 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: out in California and just followed God, said, whatever you want, 139 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:00,500 Speaker 1: you know, I'll put everything else in my life on hold. 140 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,620 Speaker 1: Obviously this is important. So I need to change my life. 141 00:07:03,700 --> 00:07:06,700 Speaker 1: And so, you know, as a husband and as a father, 142 00:07:06,940 --> 00:07:09,780 Speaker 1: you know, everyone's looking at you for how to feed 143 00:07:09,820 --> 00:07:11,230 Speaker 1: and how to eat and pay the rent and the 144 00:07:11,260 --> 00:07:14,020 Speaker 1: bills and buy clothes. So I just started working. And 145 00:07:14,060 --> 00:07:17,950 Speaker 1: so I did completely different jobs. They did mostly outside 146 00:07:17,990 --> 00:07:20,650 Speaker 1: like landscaping and things back in Texas. When I moved 147 00:07:20,670 --> 00:07:23,550 Speaker 1: to California, all that went out the window. So God said, 148 00:07:23,590 --> 00:07:26,500 Speaker 1: I want you to go into sales. I want you 149 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:29,300 Speaker 1: to start interacting with people because after all, you know, 150 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: when you're called to ministry, it's all about people. So 151 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 1: I started with sales and never looked back. I started 152 00:07:35,180 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: door knocking. You know, people had pity on me and 153 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,690 Speaker 1: gave me jobs. And I learned this craft later in life. 154 00:07:42,630 --> 00:07:46,810 Speaker 1: And then eventually it led me into the gold business 155 00:07:47,230 --> 00:07:50,570 Speaker 1: when we moved to Southern California. And I knew gold 156 00:07:50,610 --> 00:07:52,930 Speaker 1: and silver. I like gold and silver, but I had 157 00:07:53,030 --> 00:07:56,890 Speaker 1: no clue about the business. So I just I out 158 00:07:56,930 --> 00:07:59,070 Speaker 1: on a limb and I felt God saying, go, go, 159 00:07:59,190 --> 00:08:00,820 Speaker 1: go to another company and then I want you to 160 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,980 Speaker 1: start working. And it was a pretty bad company. And 161 00:08:04,100 --> 00:08:06,700 Speaker 1: I would say God sent me there to learn the 162 00:08:06,820 --> 00:08:09,660 Speaker 1: inverse of what he was trying to tell me. And 163 00:08:09,700 --> 00:08:12,340 Speaker 1: sometimes he does that. Sometimes he'll send you through situations 164 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 1: when you're obedient to say, hey, don't this is the 165 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:17,790 Speaker 1: way I want you to not do things. So. In 166 00:08:17,830 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: the process of that, I learned the business. And then 167 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: after a while, had a few more roles at a 168 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:28,530 Speaker 1: different company learning the business and then felt them say, OK, 169 00:08:28,630 --> 00:08:31,190 Speaker 1: it's time to start your own. And so we've built 170 00:08:31,250 --> 00:08:35,490 Speaker 1: a company here that is functionally important through what is 171 00:08:35,730 --> 00:08:38,500 Speaker 1: gold and silver and what it does for folks. but 172 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: also honoring to what God is calling us to do. 173 00:08:41,740 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: And that part of that ministry is just, hey, helping 174 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:47,459 Speaker 1: people get ready for what we see. And I think 175 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: you can kind of clearly see that in the news. 176 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:52,620 Speaker 1: And if you're looking at your Bible pretty close, there's 177 00:08:53,070 --> 00:08:55,350 Speaker 1: challenges to say the least coming our way. And I'm, 178 00:08:55,370 --> 00:08:57,410 Speaker 1: you know, part of our ministry is to get people 179 00:08:57,470 --> 00:08:59,730 Speaker 1: prepared for that and kind of walk them through the steps. 180 00:08:59,809 --> 00:09:02,650 Speaker 1: So that's it in a nutshell though. So I'm father 181 00:09:03,110 --> 00:09:05,630 Speaker 1: of six kids. I got five boys all in a row. 182 00:09:05,690 --> 00:09:08,010 Speaker 1: And at the very end, God decided to have a 183 00:09:08,110 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: little mercy on my wife and gave us a little girl. 184 00:09:10,340 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 1: So we're happy with that right now. Oh, man. 185 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 2: I love how you talk about ministry. You know, I 186 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:22,210 Speaker 2: think for most people, ministry goes right to church work or, 187 00:09:22,710 --> 00:09:24,650 Speaker 2: you know, foreign missions work or something like that. And 188 00:09:24,690 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 2: certainly that's ministry. But this is something I think. people 189 00:09:29,140 --> 00:09:31,579 Speaker 2: have to get their brains around is that the call 190 00:09:31,620 --> 00:09:34,490 Speaker 2: to ministry is not necessarily a call to what we 191 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:37,209 Speaker 2: call vocational ministry, where you get paid to pastor, to 192 00:09:37,250 --> 00:09:40,370 Speaker 2: plant a church, to do those things. Very important, very 193 00:09:40,410 --> 00:09:46,210 Speaker 2: important calls and direction. But when you think about ministry 194 00:09:46,250 --> 00:09:48,449 Speaker 2: and hearing you talk about it that way is encouraging. 195 00:09:48,830 --> 00:09:51,570 Speaker 2: When you think about ministry, how do you think about 196 00:09:51,870 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 2: kind of that combining of the call of God to 197 00:09:56,630 --> 00:09:59,740 Speaker 2: ministry and the work you're doing in what would be 198 00:09:59,960 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 2: maybe in a secular world be considered business? 199 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:05,090 Speaker 1: So how do you think about those two things? Yeah, 200 00:10:05,590 --> 00:10:08,090 Speaker 1: it was really interesting for me because I, you know, 201 00:10:08,110 --> 00:10:10,670 Speaker 1: I had to fill in a lot of the gaps. 202 00:10:10,690 --> 00:10:13,340 Speaker 1: God kind of gives you the mountaintop. Someone that was 203 00:10:13,380 --> 00:10:16,260 Speaker 1: in Bible college, pretty interesting. He said, you know, he's 204 00:10:16,300 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: like the prophets when they prophesied in the Old Testament, 205 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:21,380 Speaker 1: they would give you the mountaintop so you'd see. mountaintop 206 00:10:21,420 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: to mountaintop, but he never saw the valleys, like what's 207 00:10:23,980 --> 00:10:26,500 Speaker 1: in between. And so God kind of does that in 208 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 1: our lives. And for me, it was like, well, I 209 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:31,420 Speaker 1: knew what he wanted me to do. And we felt 210 00:10:31,500 --> 00:10:34,420 Speaker 1: a call, you know, in the ministry work to, obviously 211 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: it is to help people. It's all about people who need, 212 00:10:38,100 --> 00:10:42,220 Speaker 1: you know, what Jesus offers. And for us, we felt 213 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:45,860 Speaker 1: the calling to help with, you know, establishing metro missions. 214 00:10:45,900 --> 00:10:49,540 Speaker 1: So big cities like Los Angeles, like we're in, they 215 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:52,750 Speaker 1: don't have that are under church. So, um, but every 216 00:10:52,780 --> 00:10:54,150 Speaker 1: time we would go to the door. And so of 217 00:10:54,210 --> 00:10:57,050 Speaker 1: course there are ministries that help you plan a church. 218 00:10:57,090 --> 00:10:59,870 Speaker 1: They are, uh, organizations that help you do that. But 219 00:11:00,130 --> 00:11:02,729 Speaker 1: every time we would approach that, it was a closed door. 220 00:11:02,830 --> 00:11:04,390 Speaker 1: It was God saying, no, it's not the way I'm 221 00:11:04,410 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 1: doing it. So part of our ministry realizing was that, Hey, 222 00:11:08,540 --> 00:11:10,580 Speaker 1: there's a big gap. God is trying to fill here 223 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:13,620 Speaker 1: for what we're doing. Uh, when it comes to gold 224 00:11:13,660 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: and silver and preparing, um, I think Christians at large 225 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:20,209 Speaker 1: and you know, for that matter, anybody who will, get ready, 226 00:11:20,450 --> 00:11:24,350 Speaker 1: but also using the mechanism much like Paul did when 227 00:11:24,390 --> 00:11:27,930 Speaker 1: he was tent making. So he made money on the 228 00:11:27,970 --> 00:11:31,429 Speaker 1: side and then he would do his work, you know, 229 00:11:31,450 --> 00:11:32,949 Speaker 1: with the left hand and with the right hand, he 230 00:11:32,990 --> 00:11:36,030 Speaker 1: would do one and the other. And many times, depending 231 00:11:36,110 --> 00:11:38,550 Speaker 1: on what God's trying to do, he's opening up doors 232 00:11:38,570 --> 00:11:41,270 Speaker 1: that would not be opening and not open up to 233 00:11:41,309 --> 00:11:45,460 Speaker 1: you traditionally. And so, you know, We just follow the 234 00:11:45,510 --> 00:11:48,699 Speaker 1: leading of the Spirit. But ministering to people, I mean, 235 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:52,020 Speaker 1: I can tell you countless conversations with people on the 236 00:11:52,059 --> 00:11:55,500 Speaker 1: phone who are upset. They may be a widow who 237 00:11:55,540 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: do not have family anywhere nearby. Some of them are 238 00:11:59,960 --> 00:12:02,890 Speaker 1: sitting on quite a bit of money, which is surprising. 239 00:12:03,210 --> 00:12:05,850 Speaker 1: But there's no one to either share it with or 240 00:12:05,890 --> 00:12:08,110 Speaker 1: what to do about it or how to function or 241 00:12:08,170 --> 00:12:10,110 Speaker 1: what do I do. I've got this for maybe kids 242 00:12:10,150 --> 00:12:12,910 Speaker 1: who aren't believers or You know, all kinds of things. 243 00:12:12,950 --> 00:12:15,290 Speaker 1: And so we lots of times are just sounding boards 244 00:12:15,330 --> 00:12:19,390 Speaker 1: and helping people walk through difficulties in life and saying, hey, 245 00:12:19,510 --> 00:12:21,830 Speaker 1: this is where we are to serve. And if God 246 00:12:21,870 --> 00:12:25,370 Speaker 1: put me down and had a connection between you and me, 247 00:12:25,590 --> 00:12:28,050 Speaker 1: then I'm going to do my best to serve you 248 00:12:28,090 --> 00:12:30,290 Speaker 1: in the way that, you know, I would expect you 249 00:12:30,309 --> 00:12:32,590 Speaker 1: to serve me if God had sent me to you 250 00:12:32,650 --> 00:12:36,690 Speaker 1: and vice versa. So it's no different than that. It's just, hey, 251 00:12:36,730 --> 00:12:38,970 Speaker 1: if you're at a McDonald's and that's what God has 252 00:12:39,010 --> 00:12:41,090 Speaker 1: you doing right at the moment. Yep. Do it with 253 00:12:41,110 --> 00:12:45,700 Speaker 1: a smile. Do it with a happy face. That's how 254 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: that light is shining, if you will, to those around us. 255 00:12:49,740 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 2: It really is basic Christian living, right? It's whether you 256 00:12:53,340 --> 00:12:55,020 Speaker 2: eat or drink or whatever you do, do all to 257 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:57,020 Speaker 2: the glory of God and keeping that front and center. 258 00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:02,450 Speaker 2: I would guess, I hate to overgeneralize, but in the 259 00:13:02,570 --> 00:13:06,109 Speaker 2: financial services industry, in the world that you occupy, that's 260 00:13:06,190 --> 00:13:09,740 Speaker 2: probably not the first thing people think about when They 261 00:13:09,780 --> 00:13:14,339 Speaker 2: start thinking about investing in precious metals or whatever it 262 00:13:14,420 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 2: is that their hands are in. Probably the first question 263 00:13:17,700 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 2: is not generally, what would God have for me to do? 264 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:26,790 Speaker 1: That's it. I mean, I know that there's always kind 265 00:13:26,850 --> 00:13:31,850 Speaker 1: of a marketplace for a Christian version of whatever people 266 00:13:31,870 --> 00:13:34,990 Speaker 1: are doing, whether it's a Christian coffee shop or Christian clothing. 267 00:13:35,030 --> 00:13:38,270 Speaker 1: I mean, there is that because... you know, the old 268 00:13:38,340 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 1: world we used to inhabit, that was kind of the mainstream. 269 00:13:41,059 --> 00:13:43,339 Speaker 1: So if you were doing a subcategory of that, it 270 00:13:43,380 --> 00:13:46,900 Speaker 1: typically wasn't Christian. But nowadays, you know, whether it's modest 271 00:13:46,980 --> 00:13:50,980 Speaker 1: clothing or, you know, faith-based this or that. So there 272 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:56,690 Speaker 1: is that aspect. But financially, so the weird part is, 273 00:13:56,770 --> 00:14:02,770 Speaker 1: is that doing what we do for gold and silver, and, 274 00:14:02,790 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: you know, I get a lot of pushback from Christians 275 00:14:05,670 --> 00:14:09,030 Speaker 1: in the financial industry, Because what we deal in is 276 00:14:11,190 --> 00:14:14,350 Speaker 1: kind of preparing for what I would say, if you 277 00:14:14,390 --> 00:14:17,929 Speaker 1: look at it biblically, and here I'm not going to 278 00:14:17,990 --> 00:14:20,890 Speaker 1: cast shade on people like most financial advisors that are 279 00:14:20,910 --> 00:14:25,109 Speaker 1: Christians generally care about their clients. I respect that. I 280 00:14:25,170 --> 00:14:28,150 Speaker 1: understand that. Of course. It's not lost on me. But 281 00:14:28,290 --> 00:14:31,650 Speaker 1: it's kind of like where if Jesus said, okay, here's 282 00:14:31,690 --> 00:14:33,570 Speaker 1: the story of the two houses. One was built on 283 00:14:33,590 --> 00:14:35,750 Speaker 1: the rock and one was built on the sand. Storms 284 00:14:35,790 --> 00:14:39,340 Speaker 1: of life came, same storm, same different houses, different foundations. 285 00:14:39,380 --> 00:14:43,580 Speaker 1: So there's two different results. And I would say, you know, 286 00:14:43,620 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: for us, it's a little bit of an outcast because 287 00:14:46,620 --> 00:14:49,570 Speaker 1: precious metals are often looked at as dead relics or 288 00:14:50,830 --> 00:14:53,830 Speaker 1: dead assets or pet rocks or things like that. But 289 00:14:54,470 --> 00:14:57,690 Speaker 1: I think if you deep dive into the scripture or 290 00:14:58,170 --> 00:15:00,270 Speaker 1: if you just surface dive, if you look at it, 291 00:15:00,910 --> 00:15:04,370 Speaker 1: you basically can get God's financial plan. And if we're 292 00:15:04,390 --> 00:15:08,180 Speaker 1: talking about financial stewardship, if I do labor for you 293 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:10,140 Speaker 1: or you do labor for me or we do labor 294 00:15:10,180 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 1: for somebody else, I expect that I'm able to turn 295 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:16,820 Speaker 1: that labor into something that's going to service me. So 296 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:19,420 Speaker 1: I'm trading my time, which is important. You're trading your time. 297 00:15:20,020 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: I need to be handed something that's going to serve 298 00:15:22,060 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 1: me and my family. And if I work harder and 299 00:15:25,500 --> 00:15:28,140 Speaker 1: I make more or investments or whatever, I need to 300 00:15:28,180 --> 00:15:31,630 Speaker 1: be able to set on that for maybe a year 301 00:15:31,710 --> 00:15:34,330 Speaker 1: or two or a generation or pass it to my kids. 302 00:15:34,810 --> 00:15:37,350 Speaker 1: But if I'm doing that in the current financial system, 303 00:15:37,870 --> 00:15:40,090 Speaker 1: I'm at the mercy of the U.S. dollar and the U.S. 304 00:15:40,150 --> 00:15:45,330 Speaker 1: inflation rate. And, you know, the last several decades, you know, 305 00:15:45,390 --> 00:15:47,890 Speaker 1: from the from, you know, I would say the 80s onward, 306 00:15:48,970 --> 00:15:51,310 Speaker 1: we've done pretty well. I mean, it's it's it hasn't 307 00:15:51,330 --> 00:15:53,570 Speaker 1: been always up, but we've had some setbacks. But I'm 308 00:15:53,590 --> 00:15:55,489 Speaker 1: telling you, it's a it's a it's a rocket ship, 309 00:15:56,050 --> 00:15:58,090 Speaker 1: but also the cost of everything else has gone up. 310 00:15:58,590 --> 00:16:01,770 Speaker 1: But What I would say is that the Bible clearly 311 00:16:01,810 --> 00:16:04,740 Speaker 1: lays out that there are honest weights and measures. There 312 00:16:04,780 --> 00:16:07,380 Speaker 1: are ways to do it. And for us and what 313 00:16:07,460 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: we do, I think it's important. And again, there's aspects 314 00:16:12,900 --> 00:16:15,980 Speaker 1: of this that are people within our industry, just like 315 00:16:16,020 --> 00:16:18,590 Speaker 1: there's people in every industry that take advantage of people. 316 00:16:19,050 --> 00:16:21,590 Speaker 1: But I think it's very relevant that God created a 317 00:16:21,750 --> 00:16:27,020 Speaker 1: system of store of value. for people for fathers for 318 00:16:27,100 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 1: mothers for families to have their a value be able 319 00:16:30,900 --> 00:16:33,180 Speaker 1: to be stored and when they need it it's going 320 00:16:33,230 --> 00:16:35,850 Speaker 1: to be there to serve them and i i truly 321 00:16:36,330 --> 00:16:39,690 Speaker 1: completely believe that's why god created gold and silver to 322 00:16:39,730 --> 00:16:41,750 Speaker 1: be a store of value and that way it can 323 00:16:41,850 --> 00:16:43,869 Speaker 1: serve man you know when you when you look at 324 00:16:43,890 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 1: the creation and the story of creation all the things 325 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:49,620 Speaker 1: that god created were there for the benefit of the 326 00:16:49,660 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: man that he created and put in the garden And 327 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:54,900 Speaker 1: then that man was supposed to have, you know, relationship 328 00:16:54,940 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 1: with him. And obviously that didn't go so well and 329 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:59,830 Speaker 1: we see the consequences of it, but the, the, the 330 00:16:59,870 --> 00:17:02,390 Speaker 1: value of what God created. And then, and then, you know, 331 00:17:02,430 --> 00:17:04,650 Speaker 1: if you go fast forward a little bit from Genesis 332 00:17:04,690 --> 00:17:08,770 Speaker 1: and then go on down into, uh, into, you know, 333 00:17:08,910 --> 00:17:12,130 Speaker 1: Leviticus and some in Exodus. But when Moses is laying 334 00:17:12,170 --> 00:17:14,669 Speaker 1: forth the law and stuff, they're measuring things by the 335 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:18,300 Speaker 1: sanctuary shekel. It's like a unit of measurement and that 336 00:17:18,380 --> 00:17:20,420 Speaker 1: everything else is tied off of that. Well, that's a 337 00:17:20,460 --> 00:17:23,500 Speaker 1: very beautiful picture of Jesus. Like this is the measurement. 338 00:17:23,859 --> 00:17:25,419 Speaker 1: We all match up to that. This is what we're 339 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 1: supposed to be living by. But also it is a 340 00:17:29,340 --> 00:17:32,580 Speaker 1: unit standard of measurement so that everything can be equal. And, 341 00:17:32,740 --> 00:17:35,930 Speaker 1: you know, U.S. dollar is not equal to a British pound, 342 00:17:35,970 --> 00:17:39,290 Speaker 1: and they're always changing, and there's inflation depending on how 343 00:17:39,350 --> 00:17:43,469 Speaker 1: much stimulation checks were sent out in COVID and what 344 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:48,260 Speaker 1: is the inflation rate. Over history, I should be able 345 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:52,220 Speaker 1: to generally pay the same for bread, loaf after loaf 346 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:56,460 Speaker 1: throughout history. Famines, yes. Lack and war and things like 347 00:17:56,510 --> 00:18:00,389 Speaker 1: that notwithstanding. But it's only gone one way, but up. And, 348 00:18:00,470 --> 00:18:02,310 Speaker 1: you know, now you and I are doing the unthinkable. 349 00:18:02,350 --> 00:18:03,750 Speaker 1: And if you're trying to buy the healthy bread, it's 350 00:18:03,810 --> 00:18:07,430 Speaker 1: like eight bucks a loaf. And that's not really how 351 00:18:07,470 --> 00:18:10,109 Speaker 1: it was designed. So we're trying to do that in 352 00:18:10,130 --> 00:18:14,970 Speaker 1: the Christian side of financial stewardship, because we do believe 353 00:18:14,990 --> 00:18:16,470 Speaker 1: the kind of the end of the road of what 354 00:18:16,540 --> 00:18:19,060 Speaker 1: we have known is like the U.S. financial system is 355 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: is is getting closer with inflation being what it is. 356 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:26,340 Speaker 1: And we've seen those those tastes lately. We may not 357 00:18:26,380 --> 00:18:30,810 Speaker 1: have long and Preparing using physical gold and silver is 358 00:18:30,850 --> 00:18:33,590 Speaker 1: a way that we believe Christians can and should, and 359 00:18:33,790 --> 00:18:35,830 Speaker 1: I believe we'll be left with no choice but to 360 00:18:35,869 --> 00:18:38,930 Speaker 1: do that, depending on how long that timeline is left 361 00:18:39,030 --> 00:18:39,310 Speaker 1: for us. 362 00:18:40,470 --> 00:18:45,310 Speaker 2: How do you think about or communicate, on one hand, 363 00:18:45,410 --> 00:18:50,389 Speaker 2: preparing for what you just described? Things are uncertain at best. 364 00:18:50,990 --> 00:18:53,340 Speaker 2: As Christians, we know kind of the end of the story, 365 00:18:53,380 --> 00:18:55,159 Speaker 2: and it gets worse before it gets better, right? So 366 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:57,119 Speaker 2: we can look down the road and think, We need 367 00:18:57,140 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 2: to be prepared for that. And some people are very 368 00:18:58,900 --> 00:19:01,260 Speaker 2: good at that. Some people not so much. So you 369 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:03,820 Speaker 2: have that kind of response is I'm going to prepare 370 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:06,330 Speaker 2: for what is out there. And then you have the 371 00:19:06,380 --> 00:19:10,950 Speaker 2: other response, which is the more, I'll say churchy response, 372 00:19:11,450 --> 00:19:13,670 Speaker 2: which is, well, just pray, trust God. It's going to 373 00:19:13,690 --> 00:19:15,889 Speaker 2: be okay. God's always taking care of us. God will 374 00:19:15,910 --> 00:19:18,250 Speaker 2: continue to take care of us. You shouldn't put so 375 00:19:18,290 --> 00:19:22,500 Speaker 2: much emphasis on money and those kinds of things. How 376 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 2: do you talk through that with Christians, sincere Christians? And 377 00:19:26,260 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 2: I'm not talking about people who are just angry that 378 00:19:29,140 --> 00:19:29,700 Speaker 2: somebody said. 379 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:30,719 Speaker 1: Something right, yeah, or whatever. 380 00:19:31,460 --> 00:19:35,150 Speaker 2: But sincere Christians who really are trying to figure out like, okay, 381 00:19:35,190 --> 00:19:37,350 Speaker 2: is this a faith issue? Do I just need to 382 00:19:37,369 --> 00:19:39,250 Speaker 2: trust God more? Do I need to prepare more? How 383 00:19:39,390 --> 00:19:40,250 Speaker 2: do you work through that? 384 00:19:40,730 --> 00:19:44,210 Speaker 1: Yeah, that is very common. And I would say those 385 00:19:44,250 --> 00:19:48,830 Speaker 1: are good questions because having done this and spent a 386 00:19:48,869 --> 00:19:52,170 Speaker 1: lot of time meditating, and looking at it and digesting 387 00:19:52,190 --> 00:19:55,449 Speaker 1: it and even praying, you know, obviously about it and say, okay, God, 388 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:57,780 Speaker 1: if you have me here right now, what are we 389 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 1: looking at? How does this work? I would say that 390 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,510 Speaker 1: both sets are valid. But typically when we say, hey, 391 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 1: I'm just going to pray about it and trust God, 392 00:20:07,020 --> 00:20:11,400 Speaker 1: it's because It's not because prayer wasn't my first option, 393 00:20:11,420 --> 00:20:13,659 Speaker 1: because I always think prayer should be my first option 394 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:17,530 Speaker 1: as well as my last option. But as a dad, 395 00:20:17,609 --> 00:20:22,070 Speaker 1: as a provider, when I came to California, I didn't 396 00:20:22,130 --> 00:20:23,929 Speaker 1: know what to do. I knew what God wanted me 397 00:20:23,970 --> 00:20:25,909 Speaker 1: to do, but I also knew he didn't tell me, 398 00:20:26,369 --> 00:20:27,970 Speaker 1: this is what I have planned for you to provide 399 00:20:28,010 --> 00:20:29,929 Speaker 1: for your family. He gave me none of that. I 400 00:20:29,950 --> 00:20:32,540 Speaker 1: brought just enough money to pay my first rent in 401 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,060 Speaker 1: a small apartment that we had, and I had enough 402 00:20:35,100 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 1: for the next month's rent and a little bit of gas. 403 00:20:37,180 --> 00:20:41,230 Speaker 1: And so, I immediately had started Bible college there. And 404 00:20:41,670 --> 00:20:44,189 Speaker 1: then I, I started going and I would work in 405 00:20:44,230 --> 00:20:45,820 Speaker 1: the morning or go to school in the mornings. And 406 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 1: then for the first few days, I was just, okay, 407 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:53,159 Speaker 1: 14 job proposals or your resumes. I didn't know what to, 408 00:20:53,260 --> 00:20:56,500 Speaker 1: I literally had no context until some guy saw me 409 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 1: and he's like, Hey, can you come work for me? 410 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,160 Speaker 1: And I'm like, okay, so this is God opening that door. 411 00:21:01,540 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 1: So I was busy working and planning with what I 412 00:21:04,380 --> 00:21:06,980 Speaker 1: knew I had doing the best I could until God 413 00:21:07,070 --> 00:21:09,530 Speaker 1: opened the door. What I would say to people who said, Oh, 414 00:21:09,550 --> 00:21:11,530 Speaker 1: we just, we don't need to trust it. If you 415 00:21:11,570 --> 00:21:14,470 Speaker 1: have gone to work, if you have a retirement account, 416 00:21:14,490 --> 00:21:17,490 Speaker 1: if you have a savings account, if you are not 417 00:21:17,670 --> 00:21:20,180 Speaker 1: say living off of social security or something like that 418 00:21:20,220 --> 00:21:22,880 Speaker 1: which if you are i mean i i have relatives 419 00:21:22,900 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 1: that have and so there's if that's where god had 420 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 1: you in life that's okay that's where you are that's 421 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,810 Speaker 1: a trust god issue but if you went to work 422 00:21:31,270 --> 00:21:33,070 Speaker 1: and you felt the need that god wanted you to 423 00:21:33,109 --> 00:21:35,570 Speaker 1: go to work and save and prepare for the future 424 00:21:36,090 --> 00:21:39,429 Speaker 1: this is no different because What you're saying is it 425 00:21:39,470 --> 00:21:42,060 Speaker 1: was good for me over here when I knew I 426 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:44,900 Speaker 1: could do it and I understood it. But when times changed, well, 427 00:21:44,940 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 1: suddenly it gets a little too complex. So I just 428 00:21:47,300 --> 00:21:50,620 Speaker 1: let things go. That's not what God prepares us for. 429 00:21:50,900 --> 00:21:55,350 Speaker 1: He did write the entire book of Revelation where if 430 00:21:55,390 --> 00:21:57,830 Speaker 1: you read a lot of the breakdowns of how it works, 431 00:21:57,850 --> 00:22:00,950 Speaker 1: we've got the first four chapters, right? Or first three chapters, 432 00:22:00,990 --> 00:22:03,730 Speaker 1: if you will. that are written to like us. And 433 00:22:03,750 --> 00:22:05,689 Speaker 1: then a lot of people say, well, going into the 434 00:22:05,730 --> 00:22:08,120 Speaker 1: fourth chapter, we're talking about a whole different dimension, but 435 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 1: God nevertheless wrote all these chapters full of all these 436 00:22:12,020 --> 00:22:16,399 Speaker 1: descriptions that are very vivid, very detailed for what? So 437 00:22:16,420 --> 00:22:18,020 Speaker 1: that we could just say, I'm not worried about it. 438 00:22:18,020 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: I'm just going to pray about it. He said, no, 439 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 1: blessed is the man that reads and understands. It's like 440 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 1: a book with the promise. And if I'm not mistaken, 441 00:22:24,619 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 1: that's the only book written with the promise that says 442 00:22:27,540 --> 00:22:29,860 Speaker 1: whosoever reads and understands, you know, he's going to have 443 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:33,250 Speaker 1: a blessing here. So If God gives you the ability 444 00:22:33,270 --> 00:22:37,300 Speaker 1: to do something and if he gives you the assets, it's, again, 445 00:22:37,619 --> 00:22:40,939 Speaker 1: no different than the parable of the talents. And not 446 00:22:40,980 --> 00:22:44,020 Speaker 1: to mention the talents, you know, scholars would say are 447 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 1: equal to, each talent was equal to about 20 years 448 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,909 Speaker 1: worth of labor paid out in silver. So when the 449 00:22:49,950 --> 00:22:53,710 Speaker 1: king in the parable that Jesus told gave the servant talents, 450 00:22:54,450 --> 00:22:56,230 Speaker 1: he was saying, okay, I'm going to give you a 451 00:22:56,350 --> 00:22:58,709 Speaker 1: pile of money to go out and I want, when 452 00:22:58,730 --> 00:23:00,080 Speaker 1: I'm going to leave, and it said he left for 453 00:23:00,100 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 1: a long while and he came back. He wants to 454 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 1: see what kind of business. He said, occupy till I come. 455 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,180 Speaker 1: And that word occupy, you can translate that out in 456 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: the Greek to be business, do business. Like I'm going 457 00:23:10,859 --> 00:23:13,070 Speaker 1: to give you money and I want not only that 458 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:14,889 Speaker 1: money back, but I want more because I want you 459 00:23:14,910 --> 00:23:18,290 Speaker 1: to be a profitable servant. And so that's what I 460 00:23:18,350 --> 00:23:22,510 Speaker 1: believe God. Not only is that applicable to us and 461 00:23:22,810 --> 00:23:29,150 Speaker 1: everything God does for us, whether it's ministry, people, family, fatherhood, brothers, sisters, 462 00:23:29,430 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 1: everything that God would have for us. It also applies 463 00:23:32,420 --> 00:23:36,409 Speaker 1: for your finances because if you look at kind of 464 00:23:36,450 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 1: where I look at a roadmap of where the church 465 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,660 Speaker 1: age is going is where the church age began. We 466 00:23:42,700 --> 00:23:45,810 Speaker 1: had house churches in the beginning. And it said, as 467 00:23:45,890 --> 00:23:50,490 Speaker 1: the spirit moved on, everyone sold and they gave money and, 468 00:23:50,510 --> 00:23:53,830 Speaker 1: you know, Barnabas sold his plot of land and he, 469 00:23:54,030 --> 00:23:55,990 Speaker 1: and they, and they gave the money. Well, they had 470 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 1: to have money. They had to have investments. And so 471 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:00,869 Speaker 1: they didn't just sit around and just pray about it. 472 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 1: They didn't say, okay, well, God will provide at some level. 473 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,460 Speaker 1: There is some of that when you're, when you're in 474 00:24:06,500 --> 00:24:09,300 Speaker 1: that position, but the spirit led them to do things 475 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:13,770 Speaker 1: physically and sell things and buy things and, and get prepared. And, um, 476 00:24:14,300 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 1: That's where that's part of our responsibility, because in the 477 00:24:18,140 --> 00:24:23,360 Speaker 1: American church, I would say we are used to everything's 478 00:24:23,420 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 1: been as it always has been and will be as 479 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:26,879 Speaker 1: it always has been. And it's just kind of the 480 00:24:26,940 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 1: same flow. But we are, you know, this, you know, 481 00:24:31,100 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 1: I think podcast is very appropriate because we are entering 482 00:24:34,220 --> 00:24:37,210 Speaker 1: into a time that is wanting people to shut down. 483 00:24:37,310 --> 00:24:40,410 Speaker 1: You're seeing such a vast amount of information that hits 484 00:24:40,430 --> 00:24:42,689 Speaker 1: people head on. And so the first thing, like you 485 00:24:42,730 --> 00:24:43,930 Speaker 1: mentioned earlier, the first thing I want to do is 486 00:24:43,970 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: just like, I'm going to go crawl in a hole 487 00:24:45,619 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 1: and I'm going to ignore it. Because that is a 488 00:24:48,380 --> 00:24:51,880 Speaker 1: basic human response when our senses get overwhelmed. I mean, 489 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 1: having six kids, most of them are a little older, 490 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,270 Speaker 1: but they can still be like that. But when they 491 00:24:57,290 --> 00:24:59,890 Speaker 1: all come at my wife asking for something, at some 492 00:24:59,910 --> 00:25:01,669 Speaker 1: point I've seen her just lay on the ground, you know, 493 00:25:01,910 --> 00:25:04,410 Speaker 1: sort of as a joke, sort of not. But it's like, hey, 494 00:25:04,450 --> 00:25:07,970 Speaker 1: you got to lay up. I can only process one 495 00:25:08,020 --> 00:25:10,710 Speaker 1: stream of it, maybe two if I'm good. but we're 496 00:25:10,750 --> 00:25:15,470 Speaker 1: having stuff change so quickly that God sometimes just wants 497 00:25:15,550 --> 00:25:17,490 Speaker 1: us to pause it all and say, okay, where am 498 00:25:17,570 --> 00:25:19,790 Speaker 1: I at? Let me take stock of, you know, the 499 00:25:19,850 --> 00:25:22,030 Speaker 1: things that he's given me. How do I manage that? 500 00:25:22,070 --> 00:25:25,210 Speaker 1: My family, you know, the hierarchy of needs is a 501 00:25:25,250 --> 00:25:27,090 Speaker 1: good place to start. You know, you got to have shelter. 502 00:25:27,150 --> 00:25:30,209 Speaker 1: Is your roof fixed? You know, is your fridge, you know, 503 00:25:30,230 --> 00:25:31,820 Speaker 1: you got a little extra food in there in case 504 00:25:31,859 --> 00:25:34,660 Speaker 1: the power goes out. I mean, I read a thing 505 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:38,459 Speaker 1: this morning where In France, the cyber attackers came in 506 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,580 Speaker 1: into like, I don't know how many it was, tens, 507 00:25:42,060 --> 00:25:44,939 Speaker 1: I think it might've been hundreds of grocery stores and 508 00:25:44,980 --> 00:25:48,500 Speaker 1: they hacked into their refrigerators and jacked the temperature up 509 00:25:48,660 --> 00:25:51,439 Speaker 1: and spoiled the food. And that was something no one 510 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,239 Speaker 1: prepared for. But in the way in the world that 511 00:25:54,260 --> 00:25:57,500 Speaker 1: we're living, there is so much coming at us. God 512 00:25:57,580 --> 00:26:00,090 Speaker 1: will help us through it if we trust him and 513 00:26:00,140 --> 00:26:01,660 Speaker 1: when we trust him. And even if we don't trust 514 00:26:01,700 --> 00:26:03,550 Speaker 1: him and we're still trying to do our best, he's 515 00:26:03,590 --> 00:26:06,939 Speaker 1: going to work with us. but don't take it for 516 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 1: a second that he just intends for you to, to, 517 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 1: to stay still. Moses said when they were backed up 518 00:26:12,540 --> 00:26:14,940 Speaker 1: against the, uh, the, the, the red seas, like stand 519 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,180 Speaker 1: still and see the salvation of the Lord. But God 520 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,460 Speaker 1: turned around and said, I didn't tell you to stand still, 521 00:26:19,500 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: go stretch out your rod. You got to go forward. 522 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,350 Speaker 1: You can't just sit here and expect the towering flame 523 00:26:24,390 --> 00:26:26,510 Speaker 1: of fire to take care of Pharaoh. I'm going to 524 00:26:26,550 --> 00:26:28,609 Speaker 1: drown them in the ocean. I'm doing a type of 525 00:26:28,710 --> 00:26:30,870 Speaker 1: baptism that goes on to the new test. I need 526 00:26:30,890 --> 00:26:33,670 Speaker 1: you to keep walking and I'll provide the miracle, but 527 00:26:33,730 --> 00:26:37,060 Speaker 1: it's a, It's a way to look at that just 528 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,979 Speaker 1: because it's too much to deal with. Don't expect you 529 00:26:40,020 --> 00:26:41,959 Speaker 1: have to eat it all at once. If it's an elephant, 530 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,220 Speaker 1: you can eat an elephant one bite at a time, 531 00:26:44,700 --> 00:26:48,399 Speaker 1: but it does mean you need to keep going. And 532 00:26:48,460 --> 00:26:50,970 Speaker 1: to your podcast title, you do need to start marching. 533 00:26:51,030 --> 00:26:53,690 Speaker 1: Just make movement in the right direction of at least 534 00:26:53,790 --> 00:26:56,010 Speaker 1: learning more, understanding more, and things like that. 535 00:26:57,109 --> 00:27:00,489 Speaker 2: One thing that I've talked about a lot is it's 536 00:27:00,530 --> 00:27:04,510 Speaker 2: amazing how God really is the provider, the sustainer, all 537 00:27:04,550 --> 00:27:06,869 Speaker 2: of those things that he is to us, but that 538 00:27:06,910 --> 00:27:09,170 Speaker 2: he includes us in his plan, whether it's his plan 539 00:27:09,210 --> 00:27:11,230 Speaker 2: for reaching the world with the gospel or his plan 540 00:27:11,290 --> 00:27:14,640 Speaker 2: for taking care of our families, what you just talked about. 541 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 2: So whereas we look at him as the provider, the sustainer, 542 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:20,820 Speaker 2: the one who gives us wisdom and direction and takes 543 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,980 Speaker 2: care of us, he includes us in that. And it's 544 00:27:24,060 --> 00:27:26,820 Speaker 2: crazy because his inclusion in that isn't for his benefit, 545 00:27:26,859 --> 00:27:29,709 Speaker 2: it's for ours. And we receive a blessing if we 546 00:27:29,730 --> 00:27:31,350 Speaker 2: do what he's called us to do. And yet so 547 00:27:31,369 --> 00:27:34,910 Speaker 2: many people still, I had a teacher when I was 548 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,980 Speaker 2: young who would talk about those who sit on their hands, right? 549 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:40,659 Speaker 2: They're sitting on their hands. They're not getting up and 550 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 2: doing anything. I always thought it was a weird imagery 551 00:27:42,460 --> 00:27:45,420 Speaker 2: when you're like in fifth grade, you know, but man, 552 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,570 Speaker 2: a lot of people are like that. God will just 553 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,590 Speaker 2: knock me out of my chair if I need to 554 00:27:49,630 --> 00:27:52,830 Speaker 2: do something, but that's not how God works. How do you, 555 00:27:52,850 --> 00:27:54,830 Speaker 2: so we're going to do another episode. We're going to 556 00:27:54,850 --> 00:28:00,210 Speaker 2: talk about principles for stewardship and kind of down in 557 00:28:00,230 --> 00:28:02,950 Speaker 2: the weeds a little bit more. But when someone comes 558 00:28:02,990 --> 00:28:07,169 Speaker 2: to you and maybe they don't have a lot to invest, 559 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:12,120 Speaker 2: but they're very nervous or very scared, they certainly don't 560 00:28:12,220 --> 00:28:15,619 Speaker 2: have peace. We talk about the peace that passes understanding 561 00:28:15,660 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 2: and the peace of God and those things. Because of 562 00:28:18,220 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 2: finances and the uncertainty in the world, they're not experiencing 563 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,540 Speaker 2: peace at all. How do you walk someone through that? 564 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:30,540 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's always a fine line. The industry I worked 565 00:28:30,580 --> 00:28:33,380 Speaker 1: in has always been, you know, pumping the fear. And 566 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 1: I would say, you know, there is a biblical precedent 567 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,140 Speaker 1: for a small amount of that, right? So you have 568 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,530 Speaker 1: Jude saying, some save with fear, pulling them from the fires, right? 569 00:28:43,550 --> 00:28:46,230 Speaker 1: So there is an element to where- It motivates, for sure. 570 00:28:46,310 --> 00:28:49,950 Speaker 1: It's motivation, yeah. And some of us, hey, fear is 571 00:28:49,990 --> 00:28:52,090 Speaker 1: the thing. You know, for me, my motivation is a 572 00:28:52,110 --> 00:28:54,670 Speaker 1: little different than the next person. And you know, it is. 573 00:28:54,710 --> 00:28:59,170 Speaker 1: So I typically don't, I have to sometimes explain the 574 00:28:59,230 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 1: news and things like that, but I generally don't have 575 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 1: to say, you know, Hey, the U S dollar is 576 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,180 Speaker 1: coming to an end. I think in my lifetime, if 577 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 1: not sooner, you know, than the next few years, depending 578 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 1: on all these things that can happen. But cause I 579 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 1: think down deep people understand that like, like I don't 580 00:29:16,310 --> 00:29:19,290 Speaker 1: know what that principle is. There's a German word zeitgeist, 581 00:29:19,310 --> 00:29:21,290 Speaker 1: which just means kind of like the spirit of the age, 582 00:29:21,350 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 1: which is, has been used in a non-Christian way for 583 00:29:24,820 --> 00:29:28,979 Speaker 1: many times. But I think generally that as Christians and 584 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:33,130 Speaker 1: as people in America, I can feel that things are 585 00:29:33,190 --> 00:29:37,570 Speaker 1: not right. I mean, I have a diesel Suburban. My 586 00:29:37,610 --> 00:29:39,710 Speaker 1: wife and I pretty much share one. I can walk 587 00:29:39,750 --> 00:29:42,820 Speaker 1: to work. You know, we have all the kids. We 588 00:29:42,900 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 1: typically don't take long trips except on Sundays when we 589 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 1: go to church, it's not, you know, across the river 590 00:29:48,460 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 1: and through the woods, but it's, it's a decent hike. 591 00:29:50,620 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 1: So it's a, it's a diesel Suburban and I fill 592 00:29:53,540 --> 00:29:56,450 Speaker 1: it up. And of course I'm in California, but, but you, 593 00:29:56,780 --> 00:30:00,410 Speaker 1: But last Sunday, I spent $ 150 on the way to church, 594 00:30:00,990 --> 00:30:04,430 Speaker 1: and I spent $ 150 on the way back. And I 595 00:30:04,510 --> 00:30:07,030 Speaker 1: did not get the thing all the way full. So 596 00:30:07,250 --> 00:30:09,530 Speaker 1: something is telling me this is not a one-off. This 597 00:30:09,590 --> 00:30:14,140 Speaker 1: is not just because, hey, there's war in Iran or there's– 598 00:30:14,660 --> 00:30:18,050 Speaker 1: Russia is bombing Ukraine and vice versa. Some things tell 599 00:30:18,070 --> 00:30:21,150 Speaker 1: me there's a deeper problem going on and there is 600 00:30:21,170 --> 00:30:23,770 Speaker 1: an urgency. So I always have to balance with clients 601 00:30:23,890 --> 00:30:26,310 Speaker 1: as well as my own family and how we prepare 602 00:30:26,430 --> 00:30:29,830 Speaker 1: and get ready for things that we see is I 603 00:30:29,870 --> 00:30:31,350 Speaker 1: don't want to do it under fear, but I want 604 00:30:31,370 --> 00:30:33,710 Speaker 1: to do it with a sense of urgency. So there 605 00:30:33,750 --> 00:30:37,910 Speaker 1: is a sense of, I want to be found working. 606 00:30:37,950 --> 00:30:40,110 Speaker 1: I want to be found moving as best I can. 607 00:30:40,450 --> 00:30:42,110 Speaker 1: Not saying you can't take a break, not saying you 608 00:30:42,130 --> 00:30:45,750 Speaker 1: can't go on vacation, All those things are important. Principle 609 00:30:45,790 --> 00:30:48,670 Speaker 1: of the Sabbath, I believe, is still there. But there 610 00:30:48,790 --> 00:30:52,490 Speaker 1: is a there is a a good reason not to 611 00:30:52,530 --> 00:30:55,810 Speaker 1: stick your head in the sand and say it'll be fine. 612 00:30:56,630 --> 00:30:59,850 Speaker 1: So I typically just say, you know, I'll explain things 613 00:30:59,910 --> 00:31:02,490 Speaker 1: if people have it. We generally talk about a few 614 00:31:02,530 --> 00:31:04,650 Speaker 1: things we have, like within the company, we kind of 615 00:31:04,670 --> 00:31:07,190 Speaker 1: have some like campaigns that we do, like should Christians 616 00:31:07,260 --> 00:31:09,410 Speaker 1: buy gold? And so we answer a lot of the like. 617 00:31:09,770 --> 00:31:12,130 Speaker 1: Typical questions would be like, won't they throw their gold 618 00:31:12,150 --> 00:31:14,190 Speaker 1: and silver in the streets? And like, okay, well, answer 619 00:31:14,230 --> 00:31:16,870 Speaker 1: the scripture. How's the context? Why do they say that? 620 00:31:17,350 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 1: And how that's not exactly how people use it. But also, 621 00:31:22,390 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 1: we will simply just go into things like the AI 622 00:31:27,220 --> 00:31:29,959 Speaker 1: control grid that's being literally built around us and how 623 00:31:29,980 --> 00:31:33,340 Speaker 1: things that we can see coming in the Bible are 624 00:31:33,380 --> 00:31:36,340 Speaker 1: being set up right now. How do you prepare for those? Well, okay, 625 00:31:36,820 --> 00:31:39,810 Speaker 1: I'm here to tell you the truth. But just like 626 00:31:39,910 --> 00:31:42,070 Speaker 1: Jesus did, he would give them the truth. Hey, if 627 00:31:42,110 --> 00:31:44,350 Speaker 1: you don't believe in me, you know, you are going 628 00:31:44,370 --> 00:31:46,990 Speaker 1: to die in your sins and be lost. But hey, 629 00:31:47,090 --> 00:31:49,510 Speaker 1: there's an open door. I am the door. And so 630 00:31:49,550 --> 00:31:53,180 Speaker 1: he would give them the truth that was hurtful quite 631 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:54,700 Speaker 1: a bit of the time. But then he would also 632 00:31:54,740 --> 00:31:56,940 Speaker 1: give them the open door. So it wasn't like bad 633 00:31:57,020 --> 00:32:00,180 Speaker 1: news and then close the door. There's going to be 634 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,460 Speaker 1: a way to prepare. And I believe, you know, on 635 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,940 Speaker 1: this instance, you know, when we're looking at finances, gold 636 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,510 Speaker 1: and silver is the way to go. for sound financial future. 637 00:32:09,590 --> 00:32:15,940 Speaker 1: But it has to take an urgency on my part, 638 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,020 Speaker 1: but also not overplaying it. Like I say, look, you 639 00:32:19,060 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 1: can pray about this. Look, let's take one step today, 640 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,690 Speaker 1: or let's talk about it. I've given you the information. 641 00:32:25,010 --> 00:32:27,430 Speaker 1: Here's your decisions you can make, and you can start 642 00:32:27,490 --> 00:32:29,850 Speaker 1: wherever you'd like. And this journey can be picked up 643 00:32:29,950 --> 00:32:32,550 Speaker 1: multiple times. Now, I can't tell you that the world's 644 00:32:32,590 --> 00:32:34,390 Speaker 1: not going to go crazy tomorrow. I can't tell you 645 00:32:34,410 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 1: these things, but I know that God usually, you know, 646 00:32:37,500 --> 00:32:39,780 Speaker 1: will be merciful to those that are, that are coming, 647 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,700 Speaker 1: you know, they're coming his way. They're working that journey. He's, 648 00:32:42,900 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 1: he's giving them more graces as their kind of understanding 649 00:32:45,900 --> 00:32:47,540 Speaker 1: and he's helping them. And I know he's done that 650 00:32:47,580 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 1: for me. And I believe that's the principle he's, he's, uh, 651 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,770 Speaker 1: I believe, I forget if it's Isaiah or Jeremiah, but 652 00:32:54,790 --> 00:32:56,490 Speaker 1: through one of the old Testament prophets, he says, I 653 00:32:56,630 --> 00:33:00,050 Speaker 1: will show myself to them. Like they show themselves to me. 654 00:33:00,090 --> 00:33:02,469 Speaker 1: I will be, you know, basically hardheaded to those that 655 00:33:02,530 --> 00:33:04,950 Speaker 1: are hardheaded. I will be, you know, kind to those 656 00:33:04,970 --> 00:33:07,930 Speaker 1: that are kind. So how you are approaching it and, and, 657 00:33:08,170 --> 00:33:11,209 Speaker 1: and trying to seek help, I think God meets you 658 00:33:11,250 --> 00:33:14,710 Speaker 1: there and, and, and, and works with you because he knows, 659 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:16,459 Speaker 1: he knows how we are. He knows how weak we 660 00:33:16,540 --> 00:33:19,860 Speaker 1: are and our propensity to be a fallen, which, you know, 661 00:33:20,020 --> 00:33:21,140 Speaker 1: unfortunately comes from birth. 662 00:33:21,780 --> 00:33:27,700 Speaker 2: Right. It's built in. Yeah. Um, we'll, uh, we'll come 663 00:33:27,740 --> 00:33:30,220 Speaker 2: to an end here, but before we do, um, talk 664 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,500 Speaker 2: about the company and talk about how people can find 665 00:33:32,540 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 2: you and, and, um, what they can expect to find 666 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:36,380 Speaker 2: when they find you. 667 00:33:36,420 --> 00:33:41,090 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely. So generally, so alpha Omega gold is a 668 00:33:41,270 --> 00:33:44,290 Speaker 1: physical precious metals company. So if you're looking for any 669 00:33:44,330 --> 00:33:46,450 Speaker 1: sort of paper promises, you're not going to find it 670 00:33:46,470 --> 00:33:50,010 Speaker 1: with us. Um, we help people typically one of two ways. 671 00:33:50,090 --> 00:33:52,750 Speaker 1: It's going to be physical delivery to their front door. 672 00:33:53,030 --> 00:33:55,979 Speaker 1: For instance, if they want to take gold and silver home, um, 673 00:33:56,080 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 1: we can walk them through different processes, different, um, different products. 674 00:34:00,940 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 1: I think that our, um, less about them just having 675 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:08,219 Speaker 1: gold and silver more functionally useful um like we've seen 676 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 1: you know for many years even in current you know 677 00:34:11,660 --> 00:34:16,070 Speaker 1: uh situations where you know countries like venezuela zimbabwe have 678 00:34:16,110 --> 00:34:18,890 Speaker 1: you know currency crises and even in other countries like 679 00:34:18,989 --> 00:34:22,270 Speaker 1: russia and places that get locked down gold is is 680 00:34:22,330 --> 00:34:24,210 Speaker 1: the standard of money so we we walk them through 681 00:34:24,230 --> 00:34:26,549 Speaker 1: different products uh if they want to take them home 682 00:34:26,570 --> 00:34:29,029 Speaker 1: uh but most popular i would say probably 80 of 683 00:34:29,070 --> 00:34:33,260 Speaker 1: the business 70 to 80% is retirement accounts. So people 684 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:37,910 Speaker 1: who have IRAs, 401ks, that can be a 401k instance, 685 00:34:37,950 --> 00:34:40,029 Speaker 1: if you can roll it over, if you're eligible to 686 00:34:40,070 --> 00:34:43,050 Speaker 1: be rolled over, you can put physical gold and silver 687 00:34:43,170 --> 00:34:46,609 Speaker 1: inside that retirement account. And so I think that's kind 688 00:34:46,650 --> 00:34:49,370 Speaker 1: of how we're filling a lot of the movement because 689 00:34:49,410 --> 00:34:54,109 Speaker 1: there's 30, $ 40 trillion in retirement money that's out there 690 00:34:54,150 --> 00:34:57,859 Speaker 1: from whether it's boomers on down, that are setting there 691 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 1: and they're feeling good about the AI boom and about 692 00:35:00,660 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 1: where all this is taking us. But when 08 hit 693 00:35:04,260 --> 00:35:07,980 Speaker 1: and the average 401k loss was 52%, not many people 694 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,299 Speaker 1: were feeling good. So this is kind of where that 695 00:35:10,380 --> 00:35:12,430 Speaker 1: setup is going and we can set that up with 696 00:35:12,870 --> 00:35:15,890 Speaker 1: physical gold and silver. So we give them options. People 697 00:35:15,930 --> 00:35:20,810 Speaker 1: have questions. We have a link landing page for March 698 00:35:20,870 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 1: or Die is just ao.gold. forward slash MOD. So you 699 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,359 Speaker 1: can just go to there, to that website and then 700 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,009 Speaker 1: put your information in. We don't do high pressure sales. 701 00:35:31,510 --> 00:35:33,760 Speaker 1: We explain it. We answer questions. We send you some, 702 00:35:33,930 --> 00:35:36,790 Speaker 1: some pamphlets. We have some gold guides and the should 703 00:35:36,830 --> 00:35:39,930 Speaker 1: Christians buy gold and excellent little reader, a PDF that 704 00:35:39,969 --> 00:35:43,029 Speaker 1: you guys would enjoy as well as one on the 705 00:35:43,210 --> 00:35:46,730 Speaker 1: AI control grid. But we, we, you know, we just 706 00:35:46,770 --> 00:35:48,810 Speaker 1: walk you through and give you options. What I think 707 00:35:48,969 --> 00:35:52,190 Speaker 1: is that that Christians realize how not complicated it is. 708 00:35:52,969 --> 00:35:55,719 Speaker 1: And just getting some clarity helps you make decisions. I 709 00:35:55,780 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 1: know any point in my life where I've put off 710 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,799 Speaker 1: things and then once I got the clarity, I mean, 711 00:36:00,820 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 1: the weight just comes off my shoulders like I wouldn't believe, 712 00:36:03,660 --> 00:36:05,270 Speaker 1: but I put it off and I put it off. 713 00:36:05,310 --> 00:36:08,330 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm no different with procrastination, but we're there 714 00:36:08,350 --> 00:36:09,989 Speaker 1: to walk you through it. We're not there to say 715 00:36:10,050 --> 00:36:11,710 Speaker 1: the world's ending and that you have to do this. 716 00:36:12,150 --> 00:36:14,210 Speaker 1: We just want to give you clear answers. And then 717 00:36:14,250 --> 00:36:15,920 Speaker 1: if you ask us questions, we want to give you 718 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,660 Speaker 1: reasonable recommendations. And it's going to be based from what 719 00:36:19,700 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 1: we personally do as a company, what I do with 720 00:36:22,260 --> 00:36:26,219 Speaker 1: my family. And everyone on the team is going to 721 00:36:26,260 --> 00:36:29,500 Speaker 1: be like me. They're going to believe in what we 722 00:36:29,540 --> 00:36:32,060 Speaker 1: do and going to hold you in that higher regard 723 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,239 Speaker 1: of who you are and what we can do for you. 724 00:36:35,630 --> 00:36:36,150 Speaker 1: That's awesome. 725 00:36:36,530 --> 00:36:38,090 Speaker 2: One more time, the website. 726 00:36:39,090 --> 00:36:41,850 Speaker 1: Yep. So AO as in Alpha Omega, just AO and 727 00:36:41,870 --> 00:36:46,430 Speaker 1: then dot G-O-L-D forward slash M-O-D. And that will get 728 00:36:46,469 --> 00:36:48,460 Speaker 1: you to the landing page. Yeah, so pretty short and sweet. 729 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,800 Speaker 1: There's no dot coms, none of that. We got a 730 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:52,580 Speaker 1: nice short and sweet for you there. Awesome. 731 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:54,750 Speaker 2: And we'll get that in the notes as well. David, 732 00:36:54,870 --> 00:36:56,220 Speaker 2: thank you so much. Really appreciate it. 733 00:36:56,890 --> 00:36:58,110 Speaker 1: You're welcome, Jeremy. It was a pleasure.