1 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: I'm Josh Hammer, and this is the Josh Hammer Show. 2 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:10,960 Speaker 1: You know, one of the funny things about being an 3 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: observant Jew and taking off Saturdays for the full twenty 4 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: five hour and change Jewish Sabbath is that when you 5 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: go to turn your phone back on, you never quite 6 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 1: know what's going to transpire over the past twenty five hours. 7 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 2: Now. 8 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: To be sure, usually there's nothing world's altering that happens, 9 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: but every so often there is, and as the case 10 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 1: may be, this past weekend was very much one of 11 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: those days, because the world saw the most aggressive use 12 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: of the United States military abroad at least since the 13 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: assassination of Wassam bin Laden in Abadabad, Pakistan, back in 14 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:48,279 Speaker 1: twenty eleven. Arguably a heck of a lot further than that, 15 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 1: as the case may be, all of our fellow Americans, 16 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: even those of whom were not observing the Jewish Sabbath, 17 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 1: woke up on Saturday more than themselves, at least those 18 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: who are not awake at two three am in the 19 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: middle of the night and somehow getting a live updates 20 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:03,319 Speaker 1: over what was happening in Caracas. Because America woke up 21 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: Saturday morning to the tremendous news that the months long 22 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 1: brinksmanship of the Trump administration with respect to the Maduro 23 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:17,559 Speaker 1: Narco terrorist communist state of Venezuela has come, at least 24 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: for now to an abrupt, bold, audacious end. The United 25 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 1: States Army Delta Force swooping in and the wee hours 26 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: of the morning Friday evening into Saturday morning, with air 27 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:34,199 Speaker 1: strikes with all sorts of ships enforcing this blockade there 28 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 1: to abduct to capture Nicholas Maduro and his wife from 29 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:41,759 Speaker 1: their bedroom while the while they were sleeping, taking them 30 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 1: to New York City, where earlier today in the SDN 31 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: Y in the US District Court for the Southern Dishes 32 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: of New York, which is home to some of the 33 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: nation's most important prosecutions, where they have now been formally 34 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: arraigned based on a grand jury indictment for twenty twenty. 35 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: There is so much to unpack hereficult to know, frankly 36 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: even even where to begin. Before getting into the legal 37 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: elements of what happened a weekend, before getting into the 38 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: constitutional elements, beore getting into the very real and glaring 39 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: foreign policy elements there, I think it's worth probably just 40 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 1: just briefly hearing from President Trump as to why he 41 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 1: ended up going with this path in the first place. So, 42 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: for instance, here was Donald Trump aboard Air Force One, 43 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: just on suddenly talking about what happened in Caracas. 44 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 3: Ven azuellay, you had a sum up operation and absolutely resolve. 45 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 4: Would you say that it was about oil, for it 46 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 4: was about regime change. 47 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 2: It's about peace on earth? 48 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 4: How peace? 49 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 2: I gotta have piece hemisphere. The Monroe doctrine was very 50 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 2: important when it was done, and other presidents, a lot 51 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:47,119 Speaker 2: of them, they lost. 52 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 3: Sight of it. I didn't. 53 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 1: I didn't say, but it really is. 54 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 4: It's peace on Earth. 55 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: So we spent a lot of time on the Josh 56 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: Hammer Show talking about the Monroe Dodgins. The Monroe Dodgin 57 00:02:56,320 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 1: goes back to the eponymous man himself, to James who, 58 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 1: as President of the United States in the early nineteenth century, 59 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 1: announced a doctrine that the United States was not going 60 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: to budge an inch when it came to foreign involvement 61 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:13,119 Speaker 1: in the Western hemisphere, including it up to getting involved 62 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: in potential military kinetic action on the ground to keep 63 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:18,799 Speaker 1: the then foreign powers, which at the time were the 64 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: European powers primarily at beg The Monroe doctrine of the 65 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: early nineteenth century was then buttressed by the Roosevelt corollary, 66 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:29,079 Speaker 1: which gives its name to Teddy Roosevelt when he was 67 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: president in the first decade of the twentieth century. The 68 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: Roosevelt corollary in term was then buttressed quite presciently, as 69 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: the case now in retrospect appears to a ban by 70 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: the man you just saw, President Donald Trump himself, who 71 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:47,119 Speaker 1: in the administration's first official national security strategy document, which 72 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: came out just about a month ago or so, they 73 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: announced the Trump corollary called the Donroe doctrine, if you will, 74 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: a corollary of sorts to the Monroe doctrine. There and 75 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: this really was in the courge those who are willing 76 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: to go back and think about the earliest days of 77 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: this administration. Mark Rubio, when he was Secretary of State 78 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: last January, took his very first international trip abroad to 79 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: Latin America. 80 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 3: It caught a lot of attention to the time. 81 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,799 Speaker 1: Those who have the tendency to pay a close attention 82 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: to the small things really picked up on this. You 83 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:23,720 Speaker 1: had Anastasio Grady, the Latin affairs Western Hemisphere columnist for 84 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: The Wall Street Journal, Roady whole column at the time 85 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: about the symbolic importance of the Secretary of State using 86 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: his first trip to actually go to Central America, to 87 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: Latin America, as opposed to going halfway around the world 88 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: to the Middle East or to China or Japan or 89 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,359 Speaker 1: the far Res or place of that. So this really 90 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 1: has been a concerned effort. Now, it didn't necessarily have 91 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 1: to get to this point where Maduro was actually taken 92 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: out of his bed in the middle of the night. 93 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 1: To be clear, Donald Trump flanked as he has been 94 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: for the past three days, at his side by Secretary 95 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 1: of Defense Pete Hegseth, Secretary of State, and Marco Rubio, 96 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: who is really the man in the moment. As Trump 97 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: and Rubio have explained, Mduro had ample opportunities to surrender himself, 98 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: ample opportunities. Donald Trump himself personally personally on the phone 99 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: with Maduro. Based on what we can glean and based 100 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: on what has been publicly discussed, Trump apparently personally gave 101 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: Mduro an off ramp. This going back at least as 102 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: far as mid to late November, recalled that that the 103 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: broader narco terrorists strike the boat campaign against the drug 104 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 1: running vessels commenced over the summer around late August really September. 105 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 1: There have now been between twenty five to thirty strikes 106 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: on the boat's been a full naval blockade. Mduro can't 107 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 1: say that he didn't necessarily see this coming. He clearly 108 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: knows that Donald Trump, as Secretary Rubio has been saying, 109 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 1: Gavin Pats few days, Rubio just doing a total blitzkreak 110 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 1: of this. Sunday talk shows, Faced the Nation, meet the Press, 111 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: all the above on Sunday to kind of give the 112 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: administration's word on this. As Rubio said, you can't say 113 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: that Donald Trump is the president who does not act 114 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: on what he actually says. He means what he says, 115 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: and he acts on what he needs. How many times 116 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 1: must we see this? In order to prove a point? 117 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 1: He warned Iran that bad things were going to happen 118 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 1: unless they stood down with their nuclear program, and sure enough, 119 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: he became the first US president to directly to directly 120 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: engage in kinetic military US backed action against the Ronnie 121 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: regime since that Islamist theocracy took over forty six years ago. 122 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 1: He warned repeatedly to Isis and bocal ran the various 123 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 1: other Isla's militants operating inside of Nigeria. Then unless you 124 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 1: stop persecuting and slaughtering Christians, there were going to take action. 125 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: He did that symbolically, as the case may be, on 126 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: on Christmas Day, just under two weeks ago. Now and 127 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: now he yet again Maduro called Trump's bluff, and it 128 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: turns out that the commander in chief wasn't bluffing. He 129 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 1: was not bluffing at all. Now, a lot of folks 130 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: who are who are out there shouting, oh my god, 131 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: international law in the United States has violated international law. Look, 132 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: for the most part, so called international law is a 133 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 1: flaming dog of poop, a flaming dog of just feeded, 134 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: rancid poop. For the most part, there is no such 135 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:11,559 Speaker 1: thing as quote unquote international law. Now it is true, 136 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: you want to be really technical that you go back 137 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: three hundred years ago, give or take. There were some 138 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: early international law theorists, people like Hugo Groscies, people like 139 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: Emmer Devatl. Emmerdvattel wrote his well known treatise, that treatise 140 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: that is studied by law students to this day known 141 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 1: as the Law of Nations. It's true that there is 142 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: such thing as the law of nations, as something of 143 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: a common law of the international realm and common law 144 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: of the seas. But the key thing to remember about 145 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: so called international law, especially the way that leftists and 146 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: global is involved with the term today, the key thing 147 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: to know is that there is no enforcement mechanism. Who 148 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: exactly is enforcing so called international law today? Is it 149 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: the United Nations? Really are are they the ones enforcing 150 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: so called international law? Is it the World Trade Organization 151 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: or the even worse, the COVID nineteen adult brain wa 152 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: show the World Telforganization. Who the heck is actually enforcing 153 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: so called international law? Again, It's true, technically speaking, in 154 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: courts of common law, there's such thing as the law 155 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: of nations. There are even very early American statutes in 156 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: the very early years of the Republic, such as the 157 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: Alien Torte Statute, which goes back to the first deca 158 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: or two of the Republic, that make reference to the 159 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: law of nations. There So there is such thing, in 160 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 1: a very very very limited capacity as the law of nations. 161 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: It really does not go nearly as far as the 162 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 1: left wing lunatics seem to think that it does. The 163 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 1: most important things to recognize for purposes of legality of 164 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: this particular action are the following one. Nicholas Maduro was indicted. 165 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 1: He was indicted by a grand jury in twenty twenty, 166 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 1: in the final year of the first Trump administration. It 167 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: might have been easy to miss that there was a 168 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: lot going on in twenty twenty. There was COVID nineteen, 169 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: there was the contest election, the Hunter Binal laptop, all 170 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: that garbage. There was a lot happy at the time 171 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: Maduro and his wife were indicted. Initially, they were indicted 172 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: actually here in South Florida where I live, given the 173 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: geographic proximity of Florida to Venezuela and the broader Caribbean 174 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: region there. Eventually there was a superseding indictment issued by 175 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 1: SD and Y by the Southern District of New York. 176 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 1: A lot of folks are asking how Madura's wife are 177 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: being tried in New York? 178 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:21,079 Speaker 3: What is the hook to New York? Well, SD and why? 179 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: As I mentioned, is one of the most well known 180 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: prosecutorial offices in the entire United States. There are a 181 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: lot of top lawyers there in that office. There they 182 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: typically go after very high profile international crimes when it 183 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 1: comes to why collar crimes, A lot of financial crimes 184 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 1: sec type investigations things like that, and they also sometimes 185 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 1: try high level international drug offenses, for which statutes such 186 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: as the Kingpin Act, which is a late nineteen nineties 187 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 1: Bill Clinton era statue, a statue that specifically gives certain 188 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: courts and certain prosecutoral offices the ability to go after 189 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: well known, prolific international drug traffickers. It is statutes like 190 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 1: the Kingpin Act that allow for a jurisdictional hook in 191 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 1: places like the Southern District of New York. It's also 192 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: the fact that when you look at the actual charges 193 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 1: brought and earlier today again was the formal raiment against 194 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 1: Murdua and his wife, there are things like narco terrorism 195 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 1: conspiracy and cocaine importation conspiracy. So if you can prove 196 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 1: some sort of causal connection between victims who are the 197 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 1: alleged victims of the Venezuelans their drug pedaling, and specifically, 198 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:29,439 Speaker 1: as the case may be, Maduro and his wife are 199 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 1: considered by you authorities to be the heads of the 200 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: cartel of the Sons de la Sols, of their own cartel. 201 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 1: This is how you can get a connection to the 202 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 1: southern dish of New York as well. 203 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 3: Recall also that there are now. 204 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:45,479 Speaker 1: Being three administrations in a row, the first trum administration 205 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: after the contested Venezuela election twenty nineteen, the Buying administration, 206 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: and now this second tru administration. They have all been 207 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:54,839 Speaker 1: in the opinion that Nicholas Mdurero and is a key point, folks. 208 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: Mduro is is not or was not really was not 209 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: the legitimate leader of Venezuela. It is true that even 210 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 1: under this very mild water down version of the law 211 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 1: of Nations, international law, there's this day. It is true 212 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: that there is typically absolute immunity when it comes to 213 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: heads of state. I mean, you know, try to tell 214 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 1: him that to Tasori Mamdani with his persecution at biebniznawho 215 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: will hold that aside. But he's not the actual head 216 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 1: of state because he lost the election at the latest 217 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: lash or two years, but now in twenty twenty four 218 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:28,239 Speaker 1: to Mundo Gonzales. In fact, because of the twenty twenty indictments, 219 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:33,319 Speaker 1: the Biden Harris ministration had a fifty million dollar bounty 220 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:35,959 Speaker 1: on his head. So the better way to view it 221 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: happened in Caracas over the summer. Is that you're looking 222 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 1: at a law enforcement operation, not necessarily a military action, 223 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 1: but a law enforcement operation going to abduct and abstract a. 224 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 3: Fugitive of justice. 225 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: That is the heroic action that took place from the 226 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 1: US Army Delta Force in Caracas, Venezuela. There is so 227 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 1: much more to impact that we're barely just getting started here. 228 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 1: Stay tuned, will be right back on today's episode of 229 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 1: the Josh Amershaw. Before the break, we were talking about 230 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 1: the difference between military action and a law enforcement operation. 231 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 1: A lot of the folks who are losing their everlasting 232 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: minds over this, from all the usual suspects on the 233 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: MS NOW New York Times Left to even some hardcore 234 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: isolationists such as Thomas Massey and Tucker Carlson. On the 235 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 1: quote unquote right, they are accusing Trump of engaging in 236 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 1: reckless militaristic intervention. But because Madurna's wife have not been 237 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 1: for three successive administrations, the actual recognized head of States 238 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: of Venezuela, and because he is a fugitive of justice, 239 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:40,719 Speaker 1: this is not a military operation at all, and it 240 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 1: actually does not even implicate Therefore, if you want me 241 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: really truly speaking here, it doesn't even implicate the whole 242 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: constitutional separation of powers war powers debate. Now, a lot 243 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: of folks when never the president does anything whatsoever abroad, 244 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: whether it's Nigeria or on this that there, they say, 245 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 1: congressional authorization for the use of. 246 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 3: Four is it generally a good idea? 247 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 1: Is generally a good idea to get congressional authorization before 248 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: you you are going to engage in military action overseas? 249 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: Generally speaking, a good idea, if what it's worth. Donald 250 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:13,839 Speaker 1: Trump was actually asked this at a presser at mar 251 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 1: Lago over the weekend there on Saturday, and here's what 252 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: he had to say about this. 253 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 5: We call members of Congress immediately after. This is not 254 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 5: the kind of mission that you can do congressional notification on. 255 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 5: It was a trigger based mission in which conditions had 256 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 5: to be met night after night. We watched and monitor 257 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 5: that for a number of days. So it's just simply 258 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 5: not the kind of mission you can call people and say, hey, 259 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 5: we may do this at some point in the next 260 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 5: fifteen days. 261 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 3: But it's largely a law enforcement function. 262 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 5: Remember, at the end of the day, At its core, 263 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 5: this was an arrest of two indicted fugitives of American Justice, 264 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 5: and the Department of War supported the Department of Justice 265 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 5: in that job. Now there are broader policy implications here, 266 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 5: but it's just not the kind of mission that you 267 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 5: can pre notify because it endangers the mission. 268 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 3: One thing, to the Congress, a tendency to leak. 269 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 2: This would not because the general I think it would 270 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 2: have been made me a very different result. 271 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 1: Okay, so all that is accurate. The United States is 272 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 1: not formally declared war. For what it's worth, on a 273 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 1: congressional level, in a very formal declare war style statutes, 274 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 1: arguably since World War II when we declared war on 275 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: Imperial Japan following Pearl Harbor, the two thousand and one 276 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 1: Post nine to eleven Authorisation for Use Military Force, the 277 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: Iraq Authorization for Free Military Force. These are lower level statutes, 278 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: but they are not done in the heat of a moment. Apparently, Apparently, 279 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: this daring raid about the US Delta Force was actually leaked. 280 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: Apparently was leaked beforehand to the Washington Post and the 281 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: New York Times, and they actually decided not to not 282 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: to run the story because they because out of concern 283 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: for the safety of the Delta forces, you know, very 284 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: good for the Post and the Times. Not something I 285 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: say very often. They are horrific that a leaked in 286 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: the first place is horrific, Absolutely horrific. I hate to 287 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: say it, but one thing that that thisa administration has 288 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 1: not done a good job of is putting a lid 289 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: on the leaks. It's actually a very, very a leaky administration, 290 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: especially when it comes to foreign policy and national security. 291 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 1: Hopefully they get to the bottom of who the heck 292 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 1: is actually doing the leaking there. But this is squarely 293 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: within the President's Article to ability, his Article two solemn 294 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 1: constitutional obligation to take care that the laws be faithfully executed. 295 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: You have a fugitive in justice who is not the 296 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: recognized head of state with a bounty on his head. 297 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: Normally speaking, you just get the US Marshals, right, the 298 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 1: US Marshals, maybe swat team or something like that. Maybe 299 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 1: maybe FBI if it's a particularly higher profile target, if 300 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: if he's likely to be armed, dangerous, that or there. 301 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: In this particular case, because the nature of who the 302 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 1: fugitives are, they required a daring operation that's being called 303 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: Operation Absolute Resolved by the US Delta Forces, which they 304 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: trained for months and months appearently they did a full 305 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 1: scale simulated raid of the Maduro compound at some point 306 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 1: in Kentucky over the past month or two. Incredible stuff, 307 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 1: absolutely incredible stuff there. But again, at its core, the 308 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: Rubio statement there is correct. This is a law enforcement operation, 309 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: not a military operation, and it's not one without precedent. 310 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 1: A lot of folks have correctly been noting that the 311 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: Maduro raid in Kracas happened thirty six years to the 312 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: day to the day after the Emmanuel Noriega raid in 313 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: Panama during the George H. W. Bush administration back in 314 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety. The facts back then were very similar to 315 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: the facts today. Noriega at the time was indicted in 316 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 1: American courts for very similar offenses to Maduro has been 317 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 1: indicted over the past few years here when it comes 318 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 1: to international drug trafficking, narco terrorism, things like that. Noriega 319 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 1: similarly was the dispute at best or illegitimate worst leader 320 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 1: of Panama at that time. So the United States under 321 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: President Bush the first did a very similar extraction raid 322 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 1: of Norjega to bring it back to America to faith justice. 323 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: He was subsequently indicted to or sentenced to decades and prey, 324 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 1: and he ultimately died in US prison in around twenty seventeen, 325 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:04,719 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen. 326 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 3: Back around them. 327 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,159 Speaker 1: So all the arguments that you're going to hear from 328 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: Maduro's lawyers that they're alreadymaking now in correct and is 329 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 1: going to be one of the one of the higher 330 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:15,120 Speaker 1: profile cases will hear over the next few years. Most 331 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 1: of these arguments so called due process claims. Most of 332 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 1: these arguments have have been dealt with in the Noriega 333 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:23,919 Speaker 1: preston thirty six years later. By the way, in a 334 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: funny twist of history, the legal memo that the George HW. 335 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:33,440 Speaker 1: Bush DOJ relied on to engage in the Noriega extraction 336 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:37,400 Speaker 1: operation in nineteen ninety was penned by an assistant Attorney 337 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:40,159 Speaker 1: General by the name of Bill Barr. Yes, that's the 338 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:42,880 Speaker 1: that's the same Bill Barr who is Donald Trump's attorney 339 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:46,120 Speaker 1: general back in twenty twenty when they actually when SD 340 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 1: and Y actually have the superseding indictment of Maduro and 341 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 1: his wife there. So it's a very very funny fate 342 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 1: of history. Bill Barr, because of how intimately familiar he 343 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 1: is on these topics, was also there on the Sunday 344 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 1: Talk shows doing the round. By the way, speaking of 345 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:00,479 Speaker 1: those who are on the Sunday talk shows, let's talk 346 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 1: a little bit about Mark Rubia. Is there anyone in 347 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 1: the trumpministration whose stock is soaring skyrocket in this case 348 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 1: and b quite as much as Mark Rubia. I can't 349 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 1: tell you how popular this action is. Here in South 350 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 1: Florida where I live, there was a huge Venezuelan x 351 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 1: pac community here. You can basically go up the street 352 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 1: and hear people cheering, see Venezuelan flags waving. 353 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 2: There. 354 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:27,199 Speaker 1: You can go to Durral where Trump's famous golfer Zortes 355 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 1: a Trump draw. Their draw is a huge Venezuelan population 356 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:34,160 Speaker 1: here in South Florida. There they are raucously approving of 357 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:37,640 Speaker 1: what President Trump did. Mark Rubio, who is from South 358 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 1: Florida from Miami, his parents fled communism in Cuba to 359 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:44,159 Speaker 1: bring him here. Mark Rubia overall has presided over a 360 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 1: historically impressive first year as Secretary of State of the 361 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 1: United States, a historically impressive first year. All the various 362 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:55,119 Speaker 1: piece deals that the administration has been able to broker 363 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:58,439 Speaker 1: when it comes to Thailand and Commodia, to India and Pakistan, 364 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 1: to Congo and Rwanda to the Middle eases fires between 365 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 1: Israel and I Ran, and then Israel and Hamas when 366 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 1: it comes to Armenia, as of Reijehan, when it comes 367 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 1: to standing up for beleaguer persecuted Christians in Nigeria, and 368 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 1: now this now a hemisphere defining moment actually going in 369 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 1: and proving that the Russian supplied air defenses. These S 370 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 1: three hundreds are essentially garbage because just as the Iranians 371 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 1: relied and failed on Russian air defenses back in June 372 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 1: during the Twelve Day War, so did Maduro in his 373 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:32,120 Speaker 1: Kami Narco thugs rely on the Russian S three hundreds 374 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 1: apparently over this past weekend, and they failed mightily. By 375 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:39,640 Speaker 1: the way, the Absolute Resolve operation by Delta Force also 376 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 1: happened about a day or two after Shi Jimping of 377 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 1: China just sent a high ranking emissary over to Venezuela 378 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 1: to basically vow to Maduro in no uncertain terms that 379 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:54,919 Speaker 1: China would be the of Venezuela essentially till the end. 380 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: So a fat lot that Russia and China were able 381 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 1: to do for Venezuela this same way that a fat 382 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 1: lot that China and Russia were able to do for 383 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 1: Ran back in June is just staggering. What this president 384 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: has been able to do and what Secretary of Say 385 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: Ruby has been able to do to shuffle the geopolitical chessboard. 386 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 1: They have demonstrated twice just in their first year of 387 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 1: the administration the fundamental paper tigers, at least in some 388 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 1: ways that Russia, to a lesser extent China actually are 389 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: when it comes to their air defense infrastructure there, when 390 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:32,120 Speaker 1: it comes to their diplomatic reassurances there. Fundamentally, getting rid 391 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: of the Maduro regime is a net positive for the 392 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 1: United States. That's not to say that we know what's 393 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: going to happen next. That's the million dollar question. What 394 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 1: the heck is going to happen next? No one really knows. 395 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 3: Right now. 396 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 1: You have Maduro's former vice president and Delsi Rodriguez who 397 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 1: has been sworn in. That person ideally, from our perspective 398 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 1: in the United States, probably ought to be a Maria 399 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: Karina Machado, who is the long time Hugo Chavez Nicholas 400 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: Maduro dissident who recently won the Nobel Peace Prize. The 401 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:00,919 Speaker 1: rumors are that Donald Trump doesn't want to recognize her 402 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 1: because Machado won the New Old Peace Prize, not on Trump. 403 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 1: Your mileage mayvary as to how much a stock you 404 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 1: actually put into that rumor there. So there are a 405 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 1: lot of questions left right now. China looks stupid, Russia 406 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 1: looks stupid. Roan is reeling and looks stupid. While there 407 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 1: appeal protesting in the streets, and while the Ayatola kaime 408 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 1: Ni is apparently thinking of putting some plan on the 409 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,919 Speaker 1: back burner to actually abdicate and fleet to Moscow much 410 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: like Basher Alssade if the protest get worse. The cash 411 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: regime in Havana, which is supported by Venezuelan oil, is 412 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:33,400 Speaker 1: also now crumbling. This is master class stuff from Donald Trump, 413 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 1: absolute master class stuff. He is playing the geopolitical chess 414 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,959 Speaker 1: board like a fiddle, and there is really no one 415 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 1: in administration who is more responsible for that than MARKA. 416 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 3: Rubio. 417 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 1: Look, I don't know Marca Rubio plans to run in 418 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 1: twenty twenty eight. I'm not sure if he himself does, 419 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: But I'm just saying right here, right now, right now, 420 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,400 Speaker 1: if he doesn't, he will be very very silly. We'll 421 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: be right back. Welcome back. One of the other major 422 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 1: ravocations of what happens over the weekend in Venezuela. In 423 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 1: addition to the legal aspect. In addition to the geopolitical 424 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 1: foreign policy chessboard aspects is the energy aspect as well. 425 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: So Venezuela is a longtime member of OPEK. They are 426 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:18,399 Speaker 1: the most petroleum rich country in all of Latin America 427 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:20,119 Speaker 1: and one of the most petroleum rich countries in the 428 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 1: Western Hemisphere more generally outside of the United States and Canada. Now, 429 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 1: in recent years, recent decades, the gdpre per capita has 430 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 1: absolutely catastrophically plummeted under Ugo Chavis, under Nichols Maduro, who 431 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: have been socialists, narco compromised, profoundly corrupt, kleptocratic, thug statesmen 432 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 1: who have run their country into the ground such that 433 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: the people are barely surviving. Their most recent g gpver 434 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 1: capita has been barely over one thousand dollars. I mean, 435 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 1: they're eating dog on this street. It's just utterly, utterly, 436 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: frankly astounding there. But if you actually want to tap 437 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 1: into it, there is a lot of oil interests there. 438 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 1: In the United States, Donald Trump and Marc Rubio I 439 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 1: have been talking with lots actually about the oil interest 440 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:08,479 Speaker 1: there in Venezuela as well. And here's Mark Rubio doing 441 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,159 Speaker 1: the rounds again on the Sunday talk shows. He was 442 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:14,639 Speaker 1: on ABC's this week asked about the specific oil angle 443 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 1: here to what happened to Venezuela over the weekend. 444 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:20,159 Speaker 4: Chevron is the only American company working in Venezuela right now, 445 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 4: only American oil company working in Venezuela right now. Have 446 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 4: you gotten commitments from any other US oil companies to 447 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 4: go in. 448 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 5: I haven't spoken to US oil companies in the last 449 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 5: few days, but we're pretty certain that there will be 450 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 5: dramatic interests from Western companies. Non Russian, non Chinese companies 451 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 5: will be very interested. Our refineries in the Gulf Coast 452 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 5: of the United States are the best in terms of 453 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 5: refining this heavy crud, and there's actually been a shortage 454 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 5: of heavy crude around the world that so I think 455 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 5: there would be tremendous demand and interests from private industry 456 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 5: if given the space to do it, if given the 457 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,640 Speaker 5: opportunity to do it, and that will spin off tremendous 458 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 5: royalties for the people of Venezuela to benefit the people 459 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,640 Speaker 5: of that country, not the handful of people at the top, 460 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 5: but the people. 461 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 1: So in many ways this ties back to domestic politics 462 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,640 Speaker 1: here in the United States. Republicans are currently facing something 463 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 1: of an uphill battle when it comes to the ballot 464 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,159 Speaker 1: box in twenty twenty six, although actions like this frankly 465 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 1: are very popular with the American people, so we'll see 466 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 1: how that plays out when it comes to the polling 467 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 1: in the next few weeks. Thumbs up, thumbs down, do 468 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 1: you disapprove on the administration, et cetera, et cetera. But 469 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: when it comes to energy, which is the mother's milk 470 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 1: of the economy, the price of oil ultimately affects virtually 471 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 1: everything due to transportation, due to filling up your truck 472 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 1: or car at the tank, and on and on. This 473 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 1: is a shrewd play, certainly from that perspective when it 474 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 1: comes to trying to increase oil output. Again, Venezuela one 475 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 1: of the largest produces of oil in the entire Western hemisphere, 476 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 1: really outside of the US and Canada. And that's not 477 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 1: the main reason, or anywhere close to a Franklin, that 478 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 1: the United States engage in this law enforcement operation to 479 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: abstract and extract an abduct Nicholas Maduro from Venezuela. The 480 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,679 Speaker 1: primary reasons where one he is a fugitive from American 481 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,920 Speaker 1: justice to it is a really informed policy geopolitical play. 482 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 1: And three the most important reason as well on the 483 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 1: actual granular details, has to do with the drugs flowing. 484 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,879 Speaker 1: That's what he's actually, that's what he's been indicted in 485 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,120 Speaker 1: a rain for when it comes to narco terrorism, when 486 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 1: it comes to cocaine importation there, that's why we've been 487 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: blowing off these boats for months and months now, has 488 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:20,199 Speaker 1: to do with stopping the flow of drugs. But if 489 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 1: it was a fourth reason, the fourth reason definitely certainly 490 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 1: would would be oil. And I'll be fascinating to see, frankly, 491 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: how that plays out. By the way, a lot of 492 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 1: idiots just have total mud on their face. A lot 493 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 1: of folks have total mud on their face. Kamala Harris 494 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 1: took to social media over the weekend to decry, in 495 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 1: no uncertain terms, the Trump administration for what she seemed 496 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 1: to be characterizing as an allegedly purportedly bawless act. Ma'am, 497 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,920 Speaker 1: do you know what your own administration's policy was? 498 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:50,159 Speaker 4: Like? 499 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 1: Do you actually literally know what your policy was when 500 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 1: it came to Nicholas Muduro and his wife. You guys 501 00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 1: had a fifty million dollar bounty on this, do head 502 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 1: like what is wrong with you? I mean talk about 503 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 1: like Kamala Harris Scott walloped schlacked on the twenty twenty 504 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 1: four elections. She literally didn't even know her policy. I 505 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,120 Speaker 1: get a lot of usual suspects, the aocs, the Zori, 506 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,639 Speaker 1: Mam Donnie's the world, the people who basically just trip 507 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 1: all over themselves to fall in love with and offer 508 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 1: all sorts of apologia for the world's worst tyrants, the 509 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 1: world's most oppressive communist socialist scumbacks. These are kind of 510 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: folks who are also screaming due process, due process code, 511 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: you know the code pink style argumentation right well, Jonathan 512 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 1: Turley foot it's worth John Van Turley was on Fox 513 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 1: News over the weekend and he was asked about this 514 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 1: there and he had this aside for. 515 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:47,159 Speaker 6: All these Democrats objecting they heard of the authority that 516 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 6: Trump could cite is Barack Obama. You know, Barack Obama 517 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 6: vaporized a US citizen without a criminal charge. One would 518 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 6: think that if a president could do that, And I 519 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:01,639 Speaker 6: don't remember democrats objecting in May that you could arrest 520 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,160 Speaker 6: someone for trial with an existing indictment. 521 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 1: Okay, so he's talk in there about on war. Al Lockey, 522 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 1: who was the US citizen nonetheless, was a leading spiritual 523 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,199 Speaker 1: leader of al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula back when 524 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 1: he was droned out of existence by an Obama administration 525 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 1: Drome in Yemen back in twenty eleven. So Democrats definitely 526 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 1: looked very hypocritical on this. I mentioned how the Biden 527 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:30,120 Speaker 1: Harris administration talks about how or had a fifty million 528 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 1: dollar bounty on their head. You know, once at a time, 529 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 1: the notion that these tyrants in Latin America, the castro 530 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 1: regime in Cuba, that the Chavez Maduro socialist leptocracy in Caracas, 531 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 1: the notion that these regimes were demonstrably hostile to American 532 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 1: interests in the hemisphere. Once upon a time, this really 533 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 1: was not particularly controversial, even partisan points. So Chris Murphy, 534 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:57,920 Speaker 1: the absolutely appalling idiot center from Connecticut, was on scene 535 00:27:58,000 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 1: end of the weekend, and to ce N's craft, they 536 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 1: actually go ahead and watch. 537 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,879 Speaker 4: In twenty nineteen, you wrote a not bed and you 538 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 4: called for Maduro to be gone. You said, let's get 539 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,359 Speaker 4: one thing straight. There should no longer be any debate 540 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 4: about mdua's lack of democratic legitim legitimacy. The Trump administration 541 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 4: is right to put restoring Venezuelan democracy at the center 542 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 4: of our approach to this crisis. A return to a 543 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 4: stable democracy is in the interest of the Venezuelan people 544 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 4: and the United States and the hemisphere. We don't know 545 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 4: what's going to happen with regard to the civilian leadership 546 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 4: there Tom Cotton, which is here saying that he hopes 547 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 4: that there are democratic elections. Isn't that what you want? 548 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 2: Well, the rest of that article was a criticism of 549 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 2: President Trump's early moves to saber rattle around resume change. 550 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 1: All right, So Murphy is just totally trying to cover 551 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 1: from that brutal question. And there was a lot of 552 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 1: mud on Hunts face. There was a lot of mud 553 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 1: on a lot of people's face, including some folks on 554 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 1: the so called right. And that brings us back to 555 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 1: Tucker Carlston, who not that long ago, was shilling in 556 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 1: pretty over the top terms for Nicholas Maduro on his 557 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:08,959 Speaker 1: show Go ahead and watch this too. 558 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 2: So the question is, why why are we doing this? 559 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,479 Speaker 2: Why are we so opposed to Nicholas Muduro. So if 560 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 2: you ask someone on the street, random person, why are 561 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 2: we against Nicholas Maudurero, the answer you're going to get is, 562 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 2: who's Nicholas Mudurero. But if you find someone in South Florida, 563 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 2: for example, who knows who Nicholas Madureau is, who can 564 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 2: identify where Venezuela is on a map, that person almost 565 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 2: certainly said, well, because he's a communist or a socialist, 566 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 2: he's exceeding in the left wing. And that is true. 567 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 2: Nicholas Mudurero and his government are very left wing on economics, 568 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 2: not on social policy, by the way, which is kind 569 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 2: of interesting. In Venezuela, gay marriage is banned, abortion is banned, 570 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 2: sex changes for transgenderism are banned. It's one of the 571 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 2: very few countries in the entire hemisphere with those policies. 572 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 2: It is on social policy, not defending the regime, just 573 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 2: saying one of the most conservative countries in North or 574 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 2: South or Central America. Only El Salvador really comes close. 575 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 1: I'm not defending Maduro, I'm just saying, by the way, 576 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 1: you can't help but not notice the little RT logo 577 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 1: there on that screen. Grap that we just played for you. 578 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 1: RT is Russian state television. So to Tucker at this 579 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 1: point is just becoming apparently literal to an extent Russian, Chinese, 580 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 1: Iranian Venezuelan in propaganda. 581 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 3: Bab way, the notion that Nicholas. 582 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 1: Maduro is actually a titan of social conservatism is such 583 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 1: demonstrable and easily demonstrable bs that you frankly question the 584 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 1: basic intellectual confidence of someone who could possibly assert anything 585 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 1: to the contrary. Daniel Greenfield, who is is the CEO 586 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 1: of the David Horwaritz Freedom Center, had a fantastic take 587 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 1: on this recently at the Horrord S. Freom Center's online 588 00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 1: publication from Page Magazine. I encourage you to go ahead 589 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 1: and read the article for itself. There are a million 590 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 1: different ways that the socialist regime is not anything close 591 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 1: to a social conservative bashion. There there's all sorts of 592 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 1: peans to the rainbow jihad and transgenderism and this and that, 593 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 1: their homosexual agenda. It's absolutely nonsense for relevant purposes. Though, 594 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 1: let's just say this, Thank goodness that the Trump ministration 595 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 1: is not listening to Tucker Carlson. Thank goodness that they 596 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 1: are not listening to Martin Taylor Green, thank goodness that 597 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 1: they are actually doing what is best in the American 598 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 1: national interest and that they do not understand they correctly 599 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 1: do not understand America first to be America only. America 600 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 1: is a real country with real interests all around the world, 601 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 1: including but not limited to the Western hemisphere. That goes 602 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 1: back to James Monroe. It is crucial to act on 603 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 1: that Trump Minstration is right on this. Tucker, Martin tayl Green, 604 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 1: they are dead dead wronk, We'll be right back. Welcome back. Well, 605 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 1: there's other things happening in the world besides ven Azuella. 606 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 1: It's kind of hard to believe because we're so glued 607 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 1: to this incredible story. In certainly we care a lot 608 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 1: about the Somali fraud issue in Minnesota. Tim Wallas with 609 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 1: a shocking announcement or today. We'll get to that in 610 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 1: just a moment, but for now, just just a brief code, 611 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 1: a brief final word for now, for now on on 612 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 1: what is in some ways the end, but in some 613 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 1: ways also just the beginning of the affair Madua. When 614 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 1: it comes to Venezuela, who again is now being prosecuted. 615 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 1: In the Southern edition, of New York in New York City. 616 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 1: This is a bold, gutsy and brilliant move from the 617 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 1: Donald Trump administration. It is gutsy because it easily could 618 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 1: have gone totally awry, it very very if the US 619 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 1: Delta Force was not as absolutely incredible, as impeccably trained, 620 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 1: as courageous, as professional, as amazing as they are. If 621 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,959 Speaker 1: the US Air power was not as precise and amazing 622 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 1: as they were at taking out those Russian provided S 623 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 1: three hundred missile defense weapons, at taking out all of 624 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 1: the Maduro compounds weapons there. There are approximately five million 625 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 1: different ways that this could have gone potentially catastrophically wrong. 626 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 3: It didn't. 627 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 1: So it was a huge gamble, a huge gamble for 628 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 1: a president who was facing currently declining improved ratings there, 629 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 1: who is being told by a lot of folks that 630 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 1: the real issue is the economy, focus here on the 631 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 1: domestic front. As you mentioned the oil. It all kind 632 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 1: of relates back to the domestic front. But it was 633 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 1: a huge political, huge military, huge diplomatic gamble for this 634 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 1: president to do this, and frankly, he looks absolutely absolutely incredible. 635 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 1: That's not propaganda, that is just the actual reality. Because 636 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 1: Donald Trump has shown yet again that he is a 637 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 1: man of his word and that he is not someone 638 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 1: who is afraid to act in America's national interests. And 639 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 1: taking us back to Tucker Carlson and Martha Taylor Green, who, 640 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 1: thank goodness, is out as of today from Congress. So Cyonarsucker, 641 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 1: go back to to Northwest Georgia. I hope to never 642 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 1: hear or see from you again. Thank goodness that the 643 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 1: trudministration that they are not listening to the fifth column 644 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 1: subversives on the quote unquote right, those who are clamoring 645 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 1: to do absolutely nothing, those who are saying that the 646 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 1: only real way to think about America first is to 647 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 1: bury your head in a sand like an Ostrich and 648 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 1: to just not have anything to do with the world stage. 649 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:17,719 Speaker 1: As if that is ever sustainable, ever ever sustainable for 650 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 1: a first world power like the United States. 651 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:20,839 Speaker 3: It's nuts. 652 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 1: It's an absolutely fanciful, utopian, pie in the sky thing 653 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 1: to think of that. Another huge winner of this is 654 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 1: Pambondi and the used Barn of Justice, because fundamentally this 655 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,720 Speaker 1: was a law enforcement operation, Delta Force. They're the heroes, 656 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 1: the liberal heroes on the ground. DOJ looks brilliant because 657 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 1: they now actually have extracted and obtained both of these 658 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,279 Speaker 1: fugitives from justice, and this is going to be a 659 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 1: remarkably high profile prosecution, almost assuredly, I mean, to be clear, 660 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 1: you get to process. Funny enough, Actually, the Delta Force 661 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 1: on the ground actually mirandize Maduro and his wife, which 662 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,759 Speaker 1: means that under the Miranda case of the sixties, they 663 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,240 Speaker 1: read them there, Miranda, you have the right to remain silent. 664 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,840 Speaker 1: I can kind of pictures a lawyer, the legal nerds, 665 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 1: some of whom areply my friends frankly, who were involved 666 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 1: here in kind of legally justifying this operation and kind 667 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 1: of whispering, you know, to the jacked up you know, 668 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 1: Delta Force guys. Oh, by the way, after you get them, 669 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 1: you have to read them. They're the Miranta rights. I mean, 670 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 1: something that you would not think of unless you're a 671 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 1: lawyer about anyway. It is fundamentally a legal operation and 672 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,799 Speaker 1: a turnd genteral BONDI and the US part justice they 673 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 1: also look absolutely brilliant. But there's really no one whose 674 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,239 Speaker 1: stock has swored more as a result of this than 675 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 1: Marco Rubio, who is from Miami, who is the son 676 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 1: of Cuban refugees, who cares tremendously about Latin America, who 677 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:46,320 Speaker 1: speaks fluent Spanish, who cares tremendously about the eventual demise 678 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 1: not merely of the communist regime in Venezuela, but also 679 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,400 Speaker 1: of their staunch allies, the communist regime in Cuba. The 680 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 1: other winners of this are the American people themselves, for 681 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:59,879 Speaker 1: the very simple reason that, as Ann Coulter, who's known 682 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 1: as Yan Culture and many others have pointed out, there 683 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 1: these drugs of which Maduro and his close allies and 684 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,960 Speaker 1: Hesbola and all the various cartels, including the cartel that 685 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,239 Speaker 1: he is or was a leader of, the Cartel de 686 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 1: la Solzo, the sons, those drugs are flowing into the 687 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:20,960 Speaker 1: United States. They had been responsible for murdering countless Americans countless. 688 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 1: That's why he was indicted in Madureau in twenty twenty 689 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:29,400 Speaker 1: on narco terrorism and cocaine importation conspiracy. So the biggest 690 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,480 Speaker 1: winter of all is not necessarily just Donald Trump. It's 691 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,239 Speaker 1: the American people. It's the young vulnerable men of this 692 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 1: country from Cedars Shining Sea who had been just dropping 693 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 1: like flies because of this country's horrific, horrific years long 694 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 1: drug overdose epidemic and epidemic that was getting better, still 695 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:46,880 Speaker 1: is getting better, but still has a ways to go. 696 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:50,360 Speaker 1: So just tremendous, tremendous stuff here. I love to see it. 697 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:52,360 Speaker 1: It is a win win as far as I'm concerned 698 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 1: by the United States. The United States under Trump is 699 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,439 Speaker 1: back and in many ways we are bigger and better 700 00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:58,319 Speaker 1: than ever. 701 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,279 Speaker 3: Real quick before we closed the day, though, the. 702 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 1: Tim Walls news out of Minnesota really kind of caught 703 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 1: me by surprise. We talked on last week's show at 704 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,320 Speaker 1: length about the Somaldi fraud issue, and the week before that. 705 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 1: It is an issue that's been going on for a 706 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,480 Speaker 1: while thanks to the incredible work initially of Chris Ruffo 707 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:17,760 Speaker 1: and other investigator journalists over at City Journal. Nick Surely 708 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:22,480 Speaker 1: this young independent YouTuber twenty three years old, Bravo, just 709 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:26,920 Speaker 1: tremendous stuff there, who went to Minnesota exposing the depths 710 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:30,719 Speaker 1: of the Somali fraud there in Minnesota. He deserves a 711 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 1: lot of credit there, and the pressure has sufficiently escalated 712 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:39,360 Speaker 1: on Tim Walls, where he announced earlier today that he 713 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,959 Speaker 1: is not seeking re election. Apparently there were enough people 714 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,440 Speaker 1: in his inner circle, there were enough people at the DNC, 715 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 1: enough people in elite Democratic circles at all the K 716 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:53,719 Speaker 1: Streets Democrat consultancies more generally, that convinced Tim Walls that 717 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:57,600 Speaker 1: he was set to be a Joe Biden second term 718 00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,840 Speaker 1: type person who really should have just thrown in the 719 00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 1: ten and therefore he is out. So as Nick Shurley, 720 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,920 Speaker 1: the young YouTuber put on X earlier today, he put 721 00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:10,919 Speaker 1: in all caps, I ended Tim Walls, and sure enough, 722 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:14,759 Speaker 1: mister Shirley, in many ways, you really did. Because one 723 00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,399 Speaker 1: must wonder whether or not Tim Walls would have gone 724 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:21,080 Speaker 1: to this point where he said I'm out, I'm not 725 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 1: running for reelection. You really must wonder if this would 726 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,440 Speaker 1: have happened were not for Nick Shurley and some of 727 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:30,440 Speaker 1: the other lesser known, lesser celebrated independent YouTubers and podcasters 728 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:32,840 Speaker 1: who were there on the ground as well. If it 729 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:34,800 Speaker 1: was just the corporate press, if it was just the 730 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 1: coastal elite press that were there reporting on the story, 731 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:43,040 Speaker 1: the occasional page fifteen mentioned by The New York Times, 732 00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:47,200 Speaker 1: the occasional glancing at it from CNN. If it had 733 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 1: just been that, would Tim Wallas have gone to the 734 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,000 Speaker 1: point where he actually resigned or at least in run 735 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:52,480 Speaker 1: free election. 736 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:53,480 Speaker 2: I don't know. 737 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,360 Speaker 1: I think it's a very very fair question. And this 738 00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,360 Speaker 1: is a huge victory, frankly for alternative media, is a 739 00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:04,080 Speaker 1: huge victory for sober civilizationally inclined media, and in many 740 00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:07,239 Speaker 1: ways it's a loss for the vestigial legacy media who 741 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 1: simply did not do their job for years and years. 742 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:13,279 Speaker 1: When it comes to this scandal, it was barely touched upon. 743 00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,800 Speaker 1: It was written off by the local Minnesota newspapers. It 744 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,480 Speaker 1: was written off as just being the peculiar obsession of 745 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:22,200 Speaker 1: a bunch of anti Musslim, anti Somali racist How dare you? 746 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:26,080 Speaker 1: How dare you talk about this horrific, glaring builty on 747 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,680 Speaker 1: the taxpayer to the tune of billions of dollars? How 748 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:32,480 Speaker 1: dare you bunch of troglodyte racist. Well, it turns out 749 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:36,279 Speaker 1: it's not that it's racist. It's real, and it's so 750 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,160 Speaker 1: real to Tim Walls is not running for reelection. I 751 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,399 Speaker 1: still have all the same questions here, and I hope 752 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,280 Speaker 1: this will be thoroughly investigated, not just the financial crimes 753 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:47,840 Speaker 1: when it comes to Secretary Scott Besant and the trade departments, 754 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,160 Speaker 1: but also the potential legal crimes as well. When it 755 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:54,320 Speaker 1: comes to Pambondi and the DOJ, who knew what and 756 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,600 Speaker 1: when did they know it? Tim Walls, what did he 757 00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 1: know and when did he know it? The attorned General 758 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:04,240 Speaker 1: Well Keith Ellison, who has a longstanding care Muslim Brotherhood 759 00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:07,120 Speaker 1: friendly ties. What did Keith Elson know and when did 760 00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:10,640 Speaker 1: he know it? What did Ilhan Omar know and when 761 00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,879 Speaker 1: did she know it? Jacob Fry, the mayor of Minneapolis, 762 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:15,840 Speaker 1: what did he know and when did he know it? 763 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,280 Speaker 1: And perhaps above all, what I am really really curious 764 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:26,040 Speaker 1: about is what did Kamala Harris or miracularly her apparently 765 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:27,520 Speaker 1: completely incompetent vetting team. 766 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,279 Speaker 3: What did she know? What did they know and when 767 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:30,880 Speaker 3: did they know it? 768 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,040 Speaker 1: All these questions really ought to be answered, And we 769 00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,239 Speaker 1: also have answers to them that we can actually go 770 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:41,640 Speaker 1: home and be happy about and ress assured about. Because 771 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,399 Speaker 1: there's only so many scandals that can go by where 772 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,439 Speaker 1: there are no answers, where there are no scalps, where 773 00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,760 Speaker 1: there's no resolution. It could only be so many attempts 774 00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:53,759 Speaker 1: to gaslight the American people with no resolution, no just 775 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,520 Speaker 1: come up infore the American people just say I'm out, 776 00:40:56,800 --> 00:41:01,440 Speaker 1: I've had it, and perhaps above all folks, in concluding 777 00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,600 Speaker 1: and perhaps above all, that is why at its core, 778 00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:09,960 Speaker 1: things like the Maduro abduction extraction operation are so incredibly good. 779 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,080 Speaker 1: It's amazing for the Americans who will not dive drug 780 00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:15,279 Speaker 1: over roses. It's amazing for America's geopolitical interests, amazing for 781 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,520 Speaker 1: our hemispheric interests. It's a huge blow for our enemies Russia, China, 782 00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:23,319 Speaker 1: ron there. It's also just great from a visceral chest pumping, red, 783 00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:25,960 Speaker 1: white and blue perspective. If you're not the kind of 784 00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:29,040 Speaker 1: American who gets happy when you hear this they consider 785 00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,520 Speaker 1: the possibility, then maybe you don't actually love this country. 786 00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:35,399 Speaker 1: This is good for American morale. It's just good, good, good, 787 00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:38,000 Speaker 1: and the administration deserves just an absolute ton of credit 788 00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:41,520 Speaker 1: for one of the most astonishingly brilliant and successful operations 789 00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,200 Speaker 1: that I've seen, frankly my entire lifetime, that we will 790 00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:47,720 Speaker 1: see for a very long ways to come. Whop enjoys 791 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,200 Speaker 1: his episode of The Josh Hammer Show. I'm Josh Hammer. 792 00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,600 Speaker 1: We'll be right back with our new episode tomorrow. 793 00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,360 Speaker 3: The Josh Hammer Show is a member of the Trust 794 00:41:59,480 --> 00:41:59,880 Speaker 3: Project