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It's the Alex Marlowe Show. 8 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 1: This is the Alex marlow Show, and I'm glad you're here. 9 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: We get a hot one for you today in at 10 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:44,880 Speaker 1: the bottom of the hour, that is when the minute 11 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 1: hand on the clock points to the bottom of the 12 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: clock at number six. And get the thumbs up from 13 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: Sean Already that I got that history ride in radio, 14 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: Wynton Hollis and joined me. He's got one of the 15 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: hottest books in the country, Code Read, where he does 16 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: a deep dive, the first deep dive from a conservative 17 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: perspective on AI. I've been a big AI headspace because 18 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: I spend time touring Silicon Valley with the Commerce Secretary 19 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 1: Howard Lutnik for Monday and Tuesday of this week. As 20 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: I mentioned briefly on the show, I have more content 21 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: on that coming. I'm gonna need to put together a big, 22 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:15,680 Speaker 1: thoughtful written piece on it, which is in the works, 23 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: and I will tell you about that when that's out. 24 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: But Trump administration definitely trying to reset. I think the 25 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: conservative MAGA movements thinking on AI understanding it is an 26 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: inevitability and is a problem that we need to confront 27 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: now and we don't want to see this to the left. 28 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 1: I think it's very wise and we'll talked to Windhall 29 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: about all that. Plus the essence of his book Code Read, 30 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: which I think will help you be It's like a 31 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: Pracie online on what we're seeing from the artificial intelligence 32 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: movement and where we can benefit and where things are going. 33 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: You can't get this train back in the station. It 34 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: is going. It left the station and we got to 35 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: get on or not. But I want to start today 36 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: with the update on the Joe Kan't Iran situation. Not 37 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: huge movement on the Iran war overnight. NATO and now 38 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: seems to be on board. I kind of predicted this 39 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: because remember Mark Rutt, who runs NATO, is seems very 40 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: pro Trump. He called them Daddy, which by the way, 41 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 1: originated that's a bright Bart original. We were calling trump 42 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: daddy in the first administration somewhat tongue in cheek, as 43 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: was Mark Rupp, but the NATO Secretary General seems to 44 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 1: be a fan of the Trumpian worldview in Trump's peacedrew 45 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: strength mentality, and so Trump was very critical of NATO 46 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: because none of the NATO countries are stepping up and 47 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 1: offering any help whatsoever to get that straight up war 48 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: moves open, which is so essential to be able to 49 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 1: have oil prices get back under control and have energy 50 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 1: and commerce, which is really the goal for the vast 51 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: majority of people on Earth. But oil, as we started 52 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: the show, one hundred and nineteen dollars a barrel. That 53 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 1: is a really bad scenario. And again when I talked 54 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: about how I want to give Trump three months to 55 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: work this out, if it stays at one nineteen, if 56 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: stuff like that, that that's going to people's tolerance for that. 57 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: He's not even gonna get that long to sort this 58 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: thing out. But the big topic of conversation to start 59 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: the day is, as predicted, Joe Kent flew immediately to 60 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: Maine and went to Tucker Carlson and did a two 61 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 1: hour interview with Tucker Carlson about his dramatic resignation. 62 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 3: Yesterday. 63 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 1: I listened to the whole thing, as you would expect 64 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 1: for someone in my capacity, and it was pretty interesting. 65 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: And I want to go through this in I'm putting 66 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: on my very neutral hat. This is the most neutral 67 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: that I can interpret the content of the interview, and 68 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 1: I want to go through it methodically, and I'm going 69 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 1: to start with the things that Kemp brought up that 70 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 1: I found to be compelling and stuff that might be 71 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 1: useful to this audience and in a non critical way. 72 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: The first thing that is implied that he success. He 73 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: suggests that Trump actually moved the goalpost to some degree 74 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: because Iran actually is not on the brink of getting 75 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: a nuclear weapon. And this is very interesting because there 76 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: is testimony recently from our own CIA director John Ratliff 77 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: said flat out that yes, Aroan is on the brink 78 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: of nuclear weapons. We knew that they were enriching beyond 79 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: to sixty percent, which is obviously no civilian purposes. As 80 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: we bring up, seems like just about every day on 81 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: the show that stack comes out and they continue to 82 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: enrich even after we bomb their nuclear facilities. And so 83 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: wouldn't the suggestion be that the people who've been calling 84 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: us the Great Satan, and who have been wanting to 85 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: wipe us off the earth for as long as we 86 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: can imagine, who funded every proxy terror proxy in the 87 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 1: region for decades. Wouldn't it stand to reason that they 88 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: want a nuclear reapon. Well, Joe Kent's interpretation, which again 89 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: it's the I'm just saying what he's saying, is it. 90 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 1: Actually that's not the case, and it's all negotiating tactic 91 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 1: and Iran is only developing simply because it gains them 92 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: more leverage in the public space. So he dismissed in 93 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: Richmond as a motivation completely. And so then the question becomes, 94 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 1: what about this enrichment level and whether or not this 95 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: is a legitimate thing for us to be Maybe we 96 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: have not gotten the full picture, and so Trump is 97 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:55,679 Speaker 1: probably wise to address that eventually at some point, because 98 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 1: that's what Kent got out there, and it's something that 99 00:04:57,720 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: I hadn't really considered that maybe we're not being told 100 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,679 Speaker 1: the truth about Iran's nuclear program. They never really intended 101 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: to get a nuke, and all they were doing is 102 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: trying to make it so that they have more leverage 103 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 1: to evade sanctions, et cetera. And to try to be 104 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 1: able to be allowed to operate with impunity in the 105 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: region without US meddling, So that was his perspective. He 106 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: also repeatedly suggested that we are in more specifically because 107 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: of Israel, and this is where I look at things 108 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: as perhaps somewhat revealing of his ultimate agenda in this 109 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: and that can who has been I would say, not 110 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: an overly pro Israel guy, but certainly not a negative 111 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 1: Israel person in his past statements, and has had a 112 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: lot of positive things to say about Israel over his career, 113 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: though I wouldn't say as overtly as some of the 114 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 1: people in the quote unquote neo khn movement, but he cites. 115 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 1: The main piece of evidence is Marco Rubio stating in 116 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: the statement that's now infamous era that Israel had prepared 117 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 1: to attack Iran, and because Israel was preparing to attack Ron, 118 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: we thought that we would get on board do things 119 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: preemptively as opposed to being reacting to whatever retaliation occurred. 120 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: And Rubio said this, it was one statement of a 121 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 1: very large commentary that he made, and it's only one 122 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: data point out of presumably millions of data points that 123 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: go into decisions like this, and that was offered up 124 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: as the main auspices for why we entered the war 125 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: is because of that one quote from Rubio suggesting that 126 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: we didn't intel that Israel was going in and so 127 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 1: we went in to support along with them. And that's 128 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 1: something that I could see that being interpreted as sufficient 129 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: to feel like that we got to point the finger 130 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 1: at Israel and only Israel. And for me, I feel 131 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: like there was probably something that is part of a 132 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: broader context. Maybe it's not the exact word choice that 133 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 1: Rubio would have used if he was speaking with not 134 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: speaking off the cuff, but it's noteworthy that that was 135 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 1: highlighted as the sole piece of evidence that Israel is 136 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: behind all this is that statement from Rubio. So again, 137 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: probably one that Rubio might want to come back around 138 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: and start addressing. So there were some holes in Kent's claims, 139 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: and I want to go through some of these, and 140 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,679 Speaker 1: I think these are very very important. First of all, 141 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: there was no real reference to Donald Trump's letter of 142 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: a year ago, exactly a year ago, where Trump laid 143 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: out the three conditions sort of a red line. Trump 144 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: wouldn't call him red line, but I'm calling him a 145 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: red line that stop enriching to nuclear capacity, no more 146 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: ballistic missiles, intercontinental ballistic missiles, stop funding care proxies in 147 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: the region, to which Iran did all three of those things, 148 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: So it literally did none of the three things Trump 149 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: laid out. And so of course all this negotiations, there's 150 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: a lot of bad actors in the region. There's bad 151 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: actors around the world. We have to learn to deal 152 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: with them. But this was not really discussed, and I 153 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: think this is essential that it is discussed because the 154 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: Iran is still doing all of those things, and Joe 155 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: Ken himself has been not only against Iran developing to 156 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: nuclear capacity, but he's been someone who has specifically opposed 157 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: the Iran developing more intercontinentaltic missiles. According to his own 158 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: tweets on x the Everything app you can see this, 159 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: So this is something that I think is really important 160 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: to note. One other thing is that they ignore any 161 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: evidence that there's any other actors in the region that 162 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: are allies of America that also would support taking out Iran. 163 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: So we've got Saudi Arabia very supportive, Qatar, our new 164 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: allies there, very supportive. So there are other actors in 165 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: the region that would like to see Iran wiped off 166 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 1: the map and probably taken to a level that even 167 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: the United States wants. There was a very hot tweet 168 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: last night from President Trump that criticized Israel for bombing 169 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: a Iranian oil facility, basically Trump saying, and again I 170 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: don't know if Trump knew about the attack ahead of 171 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 1: time and is just a bandaiding it with his truth 172 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:48,439 Speaker 1: bomb that he put out on truth social But overall, 173 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: Trump is suggesting that we're not trying to just completely 174 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: demolish and level Iran completely. We just wanted to cut 175 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: off that we were targeting military targets. That's the optics 176 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 1: Trump wants, and there are others in the region that 177 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: not only want to target military targets, they want to 178 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: go beyond that because they really think Aron is a 179 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 1: super bad actor in the region. They went and vanquished 180 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 1: none of that's really considered. Another thing that's very odd 181 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 1: in this is that there was repeated praise for Trump, 182 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: and both Tucker and Joe Kent just repeatedly lavishing praise 183 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: all over Trump, even though Trump, who had prided himself 184 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 1: and is bragged about being the president only recent president 185 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: in recent memory to start no new wars, and he 186 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: has made this a huge part of his identity, and 187 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: then we've started a new war. So theoretically you can argue, 188 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: and I think there's a very fair argument that we're 189 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 1: actually just trying to wrap up an age old war. 190 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 1: But overall Trump has prided himself in that and Trump 191 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: has gone against it. 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Very fatalistic and very nihilistic sort of 246 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: look on this very much a black pill the sort 247 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: of interview, and the real question comes down to a 248 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: couple of things. The first one is that whether or 249 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: not Iran was actually enriching to try to create a 250 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:53,679 Speaker 1: nuclear weapon, which Kent completely dismisses. They were just merely 251 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: negotiators and they were doing that as a as a tactic. 252 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 1: Is obviously not what the Trump administration's official part line is, 253 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: but that was what he advanced. And it was really 254 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: as real norly as reel that got us into the war, 255 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: and that Trump was compelled, probably against his better instincts, 256 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 1: to go along with it, and no other country in 257 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 1: the region was involved at all, and it was just 258 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 1: as reel and all of that is stuff where you 259 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 1: could disagree with it, but I at least kind of 260 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 1: can follow the logic of it. But then stuff started 261 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: to get pretty weird towards the end, as these things 262 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: do on these podcasts that go on for a very 263 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: long time. And this was a weird part that I 264 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: wanted to share with you, and I am intentionally being 265 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: in articulate with the word weird. To start it off, 266 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 1: let's play cut six guys. 267 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 4: So when one of President Trump's closest advisors, who is 268 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 4: vocally advocating for US to not go to war with 269 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 4: Iran and for US to rethink at least our relationship 270 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 4: with the Israelis, and then he suddenly publicly assassinated and 271 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 4: we're not allowed to ask any questions about that. It's 272 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 4: a data point. It's a data point that we need 273 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 4: to look into. 274 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 3: What do you mean when you say we're not allowed 275 00:13:58,480 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 3: to ask any questions about that. 276 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 4: We've been told that this individual Robinson is a loane gunman, 277 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 4: and maybe he is. But the investigation that I was 278 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 4: a part of the National Counterism Center was a part of. 279 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 4: We were stopped from continuing to investigate that Charlie was 280 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 4: under a lot of pressure from a lot of pro 281 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 4: Israel donors. And again we know Charlie was advocating to 282 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 4: President Trump against this war with Iran. 283 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 1: Well, but Charlie also, of course was a big supporter 284 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 1: of both stuff Trump did, Charlie do not want to 285 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 1: regime change war in Iran. And this is all basically 286 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: painting a picture that it is likely a likely scenario 287 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 1: that Israel was behind the murder of Charlie Kirk. We've 288 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: not seen the evidence of this. There is a text 289 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 1: chain that Charlie Kirk was a part of that I 290 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 1: was actually also a part of, where mostly it's a 291 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 1: pro Israel text chain, but there was an exchange where 292 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 1: Charlie was alarmed that some donors there were also pro 293 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: Israel donors, were being overly pushy about advancing pro is 294 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 1: reel talking points and Charlie. There's a leak text message 295 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: that's out there of Charlie suggesting that could cause him 296 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: to leave the cause of Israel, and it's something that 297 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: was one text message out of many, many, many, many 298 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 1: many messages in this thread. And then Joe kent suggestion 299 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: is based off of that sole text message that it 300 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: really could have been Israel and he's not allowed to 301 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 1: ask questions about it, even though he was in a 302 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: position in the government to do something about it theoretically, 303 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: and yet he's left the government, so now he's because 304 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: he was not allowed to ask questions about it while 305 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 1: he was within the government and in a big place 306 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 1: of power in our intelligence structure. This to me is 307 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: deeply illogical that he would leave the government in order 308 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: because he couldn't ask questions while he had the power 309 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: to do, so I don't follow it at all. And 310 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 1: the suggestion that a shadowy Israeli forced was behind the 311 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: murder of Charlie and not a transferry freak in the 312 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 1: fact that there was an adequate security and surveillance at 313 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: the event, this strains credulity to me. And Tucker actually 314 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 1: escalates it and he suggests that perhaps Israel was also 315 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: behind the bombing of the girls school, which we've owned 316 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: up to, that was on the Iranian at nuclear base, 317 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 1: that this wasn't just some sort of a mistake that 318 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: took place, that it was actually Israel done this intentionally 319 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: to try to murder Iranian schoolgirls. And then I just 320 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: start losing it. I start thinking that this is not 321 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: something that is an entirely credible thing. But you can 322 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 1: check it out, check it out for yourself. But the 323 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: bottom line is Iranians did try to sassay President Trump. 324 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 1: They were enriching to sixty percent. They're still executing prisoners today. 325 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: Trump loves his reputations not having start a new wars 326 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: our ally Saudi's guitaris, et cetera, also like or supporting 327 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: the war, and overall Trump does not like for his 328 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 1: word means nothing that to me still is why this 329 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: war is happening. Why I'm giving Trump a little bit 330 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 1: of leeway here, but it's compelling questions asked, and I 331 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: want to and I would love to get some real 332 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 1: responses here. 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This 350 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,479 Speaker 1: is a great sponsor for us on the show. Portions 351 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 1: of the show are brought to us by the American 352 00:17:50,520 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 1: Beverage Association. Americans simply do not have an infinite attention span. 353 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 1: There's only a certain number of things we can focus 354 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 1: on and to give a moment. I know this fair 355 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 1: than anyone leading the Bright Burtney's Room for the past 356 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 1: thirteen years. I think it is. And we just learned 357 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:16,199 Speaker 1: in the last twenty four hours from reporting from our 358 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 1: friend John Levine at the Washington Free Beacon that Rama Duwagi, 359 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 1: who is the first wife, first chick, whatever you want 360 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: to call her of New York City Mom, Donnie's wife, 361 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 1: not only has more posts on social media glorifying Palestinian terrorism, 362 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,640 Speaker 1: but she also is an N word user, which I'm 363 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: told that's frowned upon and is even cancelable. So we 364 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 1: just learned that stuff. But we don't have time to 365 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:44,479 Speaker 1: talk about the fact that we have a pro terrorist family. 366 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 1: At least some key family members have accelebrated terrorism in 367 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: Gracie manner as a mansion or manner always forget that, 368 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 1: And we don't time to talk about that because we're 369 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 1: talking about whether or not some wild conspiracy theory about 370 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 1: Israel murdering my dear friend Charlie Kirk, and it just 371 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 1: you're disturbing. And then you wonder what compels a guy 372 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 1: like Joe Ken, who's got this amazing history to go 373 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 1: down this road. And then perhaps we got our answer 374 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:10,160 Speaker 1: that I saw first on Laura Ingram Show on Fox 375 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: News yesterday's play Cut seven guys. 376 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 5: Joe Kent, the former director of the United States National 377 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 5: Counter Terror Center. This is from Semaphore. He just resigned. 378 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 5: He's now under FBI investigation for allegedly leaking classified information, 379 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 5: and the investigation predates his departure. 380 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, is anyone shocked by this? Given the dots I'm 381 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 1: trying to connect here that there's something up. I said 382 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: this yesterday Yesterday's show. There's something up. There's a variable 383 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 1: here in the algebra problem. Joe Kent, who is in 384 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 1: so many great things over his life, the war hero, 385 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 1: is a gold star husband, and he's been so right 386 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 1: in so many issues. And why he's coming out now 387 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:53,719 Speaker 1: in the way He's coming out to undermine a war 388 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 1: effort to undermine the president that he helped get elected. 389 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 1: Doesn't make any sense. There's something up this FBI investigation, 390 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: be that variable, maybe there's something else, and we'll keep 391 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:04,439 Speaker 1: an eye on it. But I'll tell you I have 392 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 1: a deeper dive on Mom, Donnie and his family with 393 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 1: Emma Joe Morris coming up on my next podcast. We 394 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: just recorded yesterday, so I got to get that out 395 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 1: for all of you. So remember to subscribed to all 396 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 1: my podcasts. You have three extra episodes every single week, 397 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 1: and I usually one with Ma Joe because she's one 398 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 1: of the best reporters around and is hilarious. All right, 399 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: this is a treat for all of you. Switching Gears 400 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:25,679 Speaker 1: Hard one of the books of the year, and I 401 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 1: only say this because our friend Peter Schweizer's Visible Coup 402 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 1: book also came out this year. Is Winton Hall. Winton 403 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 1: Hall is one of the unsung heroes of American conservatism 404 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 1: right now. He's been our social media director of Brighte 405 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 1: Bart News for over a decade, but he does so 406 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: much more than that, and he took on a herculean 407 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 1: effort and doing something that is absolutely essential is he's 408 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 1: going to help you, the American Conservative, understand artificial intelligence. 409 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: And I'll tell you this is where I want to start. 410 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: Winton and Winton, welcome to the show. Also part of 411 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 1: GAI government ACCOUNTABILD the institute. Where I want to start, 412 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 1: Winton is getting people to understand that we are in 413 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 1: this and no one can opt out. You cannot put 414 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 1: your head in this hand on AI. We are a 415 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 1: part of the AI revolution right now that's taking place, 416 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 1: and we can either get on board, help shape it 417 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 1: and help make it work for us, or not only 418 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 1: gonna get left behind. The future is not gonna include 419 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: us at all. 420 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:21,360 Speaker 3: Alex, You've nailed it. Exactly. 421 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 6: Ninety nine percent of us are already using a GI, 422 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 6: even though sixty four percent of us don't realize when 423 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 6: we're using AI. 424 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:29,640 Speaker 3: And you might say, how is that even. 425 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:32,640 Speaker 6: Possible, when well, it's because it's baked into the algorithms 426 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 6: of everything from your weather app to your GPS to 427 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 6: any of your daily algorithmic devices. And so if we're 428 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 6: going to already use it, and we do, we better 429 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 6: learn how to seize the upside and avert the political 430 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:48,920 Speaker 6: land mines. And that's the second reason AI is not 431 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 6: just a tool. People often call it that it is 432 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 6: a tool, but it's not just a tool. 433 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 3: It is political power. And that's not me saying it. 434 00:21:56,480 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 6: That is people like Mustafa Suliman, the AI CEO for 435 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 6: Microsoft's AI, and he says, quote, technology is political. Now, 436 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 6: eighty five percent of all political donations in Silicon Valley 437 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,959 Speaker 6: flow to the Democrats. So when I started this two 438 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 6: year investigation, Alex, what I realized was. 439 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 3: These people aren't hiding it anymore. 440 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 6: They understand the power of what they're creating, and they 441 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 6: want to remake the world. Reset our economic system, reset 442 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 6: our education system, reset the way we scan and ban 443 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 6: sensor content online, what we're allowed to say. 444 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 3: And they also want to control. 445 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 6: The terms of how we proceed on the battlefield, which 446 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,160 Speaker 6: is what we're seeing in this anthropic debate right now. 447 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 3: So when you say that, Alex, you're exactly right. We 448 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 3: have to. 449 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 6: Understand, particularly the conservative movement. The reason why I call 450 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,360 Speaker 6: it a code red moment is twofold. One code read 451 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 6: an alert and alarm flare getting ready and paying attention. 452 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 6: But the other reason is we need a code, a 453 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 6: set of principles for the Red team politically, so that 454 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 6: we understand how to navigate through what is going to 455 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,679 Speaker 6: be the most disruptive five years we've ever seen in 456 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:06,360 Speaker 6: terms of what is about to unfold exactly. 457 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 1: The book is Code Read the Left, the Right, China 458 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,360 Speaker 1: and the Race to control AI. And once you get 459 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 1: it now and this is a perfect one to get 460 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: for someone in your life who might not be a 461 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,479 Speaker 1: voracious consumer of news media, they will enjoy this. It 462 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: is as immersive as a sci fi novel, but it 463 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 1: is not a sci fi novel. This is about the 464 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 1: present and the near future stuff that is happening. And Winton, 465 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: I think that one of the things that I think 466 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,880 Speaker 1: is essential in your that I reflected on while going 467 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,880 Speaker 1: through the book is that this is a cultural revolution. 468 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 1: It's not just about tech. And if we don't get 469 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:45,120 Speaker 1: AI to align with traditional values, with American conservative values, 470 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 1: then we are not going to recognize humanity, and which 471 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 1: is why we need to get involved. Evaluate that and 472 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,199 Speaker 1: then assuming you agree to some point, to some extent, 473 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 1: how do we get involved. 474 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 6: No, it's a great question, Alex, and you're exactly right. 475 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 6: So the alignment problem is what technologists refer to when 476 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 6: they want to make sure that whatever artificial intelligence has 477 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 6: created aligns, hence the name alignment with human values. 478 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 3: But the question is who'se values. 479 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 6: Silicon Valley left us elits values, our values, the values 480 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 6: that we talk about here on Breitbart all the time 481 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 6: or with Breitbart all the time. And that's the real debate, 482 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 6: right And so what you see is this very big 483 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:25,679 Speaker 6: tuggle war. 484 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 3: Playing out right now. Now. 485 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:29,640 Speaker 6: The reality is is that when you look at those 486 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 6: cultural values and the way that that flows downstream, it's 487 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 6: also in things like entertainment. As Andrew taught us that 488 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 6: politics is downstream from culture, but it's also in things 489 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 6: like education. So for example, let's get real practical. Imagine 490 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 6: that your child has an AI tutor. Now there are 491 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 6: benefits to that if it's aligned properly, can help to 492 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 6: understand that your daughter is weak in algebra but does 493 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 6: very well in physics, and can reorder the daily quiz 494 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 6: and homework through machine learn to customize that learning experience. 495 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 3: That's all finding good, But once. 496 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,439 Speaker 6: You say which values are baked into that AI tutor 497 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 6: When it comes to things like talking and debating issues 498 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:17,440 Speaker 6: like the Second Amendment, climate change, abortion, evolution, any other 499 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,879 Speaker 6: kind of topic where there is a value component to 500 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 6: it beyond math or strict strict science. That's where you 501 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 6: start to see how this is going to metastasize very quickly. 502 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 6: We're already seeing the teachers' unions have fully embraced signing 503 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 6: up and working with the open AI labs to have 504 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 6: and bake in the curriculum. We do know that there 505 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,880 Speaker 6: are enormous amount of money flowing right now to quickly 506 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 6: get these AI systems built in at an infrastructure level, 507 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 6: and that just opens up enormous questions because we know 508 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:55,360 Speaker 6: that big tech has been enormously hostile to the values 509 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 6: of right of center, conservative and traditional Americans. And so 510 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 6: I I think we've got to wake up. And first 511 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:05,160 Speaker 6: thing is understand they're playing five D chess. Second thing, 512 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 6: understand where these fault lines are quickly, and then third 513 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 6: is to figure out what to do about it. And 514 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,200 Speaker 6: that's why in Code Read, I didn't just want to 515 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 6: write a doom book where you walk away and you say, well, 516 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 6: I guess it's all hopeless. I actually, at the end 517 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 6: of every single chapter give very specific principles and guidelines 518 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,439 Speaker 6: for us personally as well as politically of how we 519 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 6: can navigate through this quick moving moment. So that we 520 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,640 Speaker 6: can see the upside and avert those landmarks. 521 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 1: The book actually made me optimistic about the future of 522 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 1: AI in some ways, and I'll tell you some of 523 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 1: the things that I gleaned from it is that, first 524 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:42,640 Speaker 1: of all, every major AI company I don't think are 525 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 1: entirely hostile to us. I'm very concerned about Google, obviously 526 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,119 Speaker 1: concerned about Anthropic, but I feel like some of the 527 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 1: others are convincible, and if they feel like the Trump 528 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 1: administration and conservative audiences are in the picture here, I 529 00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 1: don't want them to dismiss us because I do feel 530 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 1: like that they have some of the same concerns that 531 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,640 Speaker 1: our populist audience has, and I think that that's very 532 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 1: interesting and it's a big opportunity. Other things that made 533 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 1: me optimistic I think this could completely derail the education 534 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 1: industrial complex, Like why send a kid to school for 535 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 1: four hundred thousand dollars when AI could personalize a tutor 536 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: for them. Another one is that my wife is in 537 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 1: the cancer field. I feel like the innovation that AI 538 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 1: could have in her ability to try to help people 539 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 1: survive cancer, I feel like that could really increase in 540 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,160 Speaker 1: a positive way. So the book isn't just about horrible stuff. 541 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 1: The book has got some stuff and that could get 542 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 1: you actually excited. 543 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 6: Absolutely, and that's what I really wanted to do. I 544 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 6: call it roses and land mines. There are numerous ways 545 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 6: that we can bloom opportunity, those roses of opportunity with AI, 546 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 6: and I really make sure to not just sprinkle them 547 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 6: through the book, but really anchor them through the book. 548 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 6: On the other hand, you also have to know that 549 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 6: your foot is over potentially different land mines, and so 550 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 6: you have to know how to navigate through to get 551 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 6: the roses and avert those landmines. You've nailed several of those, 552 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 6: and the ones that I laid out and the reasons 553 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 6: that I laid out at the beginning. I say from 554 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:11,360 Speaker 6: the jump, just to be very transparent, I'm an AI optimist. 555 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 3: But a political realist. 556 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 6: And by that I mean very optimistic because I'm the 557 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 6: son of a surgeon and a nurse, and my stepmom 558 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 6: was a nurse. 559 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 3: My mom was a. 560 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 6: Preschool teacher, so I see a lot of possibility for 561 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,680 Speaker 6: great things with AI. On the other hand, I'm a 562 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,919 Speaker 6: political realist because I know that when I've read and 563 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,880 Speaker 6: we've got eighty pages of indnotes in this poot eight 564 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 6: hundred and fifty innotes, just old style journalism. Let them 565 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 6: speak for themselves. When you really look at what where 566 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 6: they have put their money, where their mouth is on 567 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 6: their values. You understand that that when you put the biggest, 568 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 6: most powerful information weapon ever devised by human minds on 569 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 6: the battlefield of ideas, which was what AI is, Machiavelian 570 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 6: impulses are likely to arise because it's a great power 571 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 6: grab for control. And so we've got to realize that 572 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 6: there are massive, big moneyed interests who are going to 573 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 6: try to weaponize politically this. At the same time, we've 574 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 6: got to realize there's an enormous opportunity, and I try 575 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 6: to really show both sides of that so that you 576 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 6: don't miss out on those great hopeful moments. So that 577 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 6: would be a travesy just as much as if we 578 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 6: hit those landmines. 579 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 1: You're listening to Winton Hall. He's our social media director 580 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: at brip our News, but today he's on the show 581 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 1: in his capacity as author of Code Read, which is 582 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 1: one of the most unbelievable books you could ever read 583 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 1: on the urgent topic of the moment. And in the book, 584 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 1: you go through first of all, you give people an 585 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: understanding of where AI is going. In terms of education, 586 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 1: we talk about cheating a lot. We talk about AI 587 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 1: relationships with sex spots for lack of a better explanation. 588 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,719 Speaker 1: We also talk about AI warfare, the nature of that, 589 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 1: the risks, but perhaps the benefits. If we get this 590 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 1: stuff right and when we come back from the break, 591 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: I want you to go through what you think are. 592 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tease this to the audience, what your top 593 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 1: three concerns are, and then I'm want you to give 594 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 1: me your top three things you're excited about the AI 595 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 1: future because this book is very balanced book, and it is, 596 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 1: but we cannot opt out, and you can't opt out. 597 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 1: I think this is the main thing that you might 598 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 1: not be ready for. The AI revolution is Winton rights, 599 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 1: but you cannot opt out of it. And that's why 600 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 1: I want all of you all excited about this stuff. 601 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 1: I want you excited to feel like we're going to 602 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 1: be players in this space. We're gonna dominate in this space. 603 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 1: It's gonna be tough to do, but if we don't 604 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 1: take that approach, we're gonna get passed by and the 605 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 1: world is just gonna leave us behind. And that is 606 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 1: not okay with me. All Right, I've got the wrong 607 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 1: we're looking at we're looking at the wrong stuff on 608 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,959 Speaker 1: my screen. All right, here we go, can we get? 609 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 3: All right? 610 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 1: Almost there? We're almost there. There it is. There's a 611 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 1: you know, we're having some fun in the studio today. 612 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 1: I want to paint you all a picture. Sirens are blaring. 613 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 1: I got seconds to grab your child and run, and 614 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 1: now imagine your elderly and your legs don't work. Getting 615 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 1: downstairs feels like an impossible task. And after you do 616 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 1: all that, you're in a bomb shelter for hours or 617 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 1: maybe even days because you just can't make that trek again. 618 00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 1: That is what so many of our friends in Israel 619 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 1: are doing right now as Operation Epic Fury continues. Children 620 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 1: are being traumatized, families are exhausted, homes have been destroyed, 621 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 1: and that's why the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews 622 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 1: is there on the ground bring food, emergency equipment, care 623 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 1: for children. They're also building bomb shelters, which is amazing, 624 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,959 Speaker 1: supplying bomb shelters and medical centers as well with critically 625 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 1: needed essentials. If you've ever wondered what it looks like 626 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 1: to stand for Israel, stand against good. I see it 627 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 1: for good against evil. 628 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 3: This is it. Give forty five dollars right now. Forty 629 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:31,479 Speaker 3: five dollars. That's it. 630 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 1: So we're asking right now. That's the call to action. 631 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 1: Eight eight eight four eight eight IFCJ, give forty five 632 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 1: dollars right now at eight eight eight four a eight 633 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 1: IFCJ go to IFCJ dot org. Do it now, make 634 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 1: a meaningful contribution. We'll be right back, all right. Alix 635 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 1: Marlow's show is very proud. You have such a great staff. 636 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 1: Greg Evans, our executive producer, Sean McConnell runs the board. 637 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 1: Roger Wickers, Junior, Rick Locke, Garrett Chollie, Matt Zibel, Brandon Couples, 638 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 1: Misty Callahan, John Cassio, and Daniel west All pitch in 639 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 1: on the show, and we're very grateful they do. Remember 640 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,239 Speaker 1: it's not just a live radio show, or if you're 641 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 1: watching Seale News Channel live TV show. You three extra 642 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 1: podcasts a week. Emma Joe Morris, we break down the 643 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 1: Lace and Mom Donnie and we've have a lot of 644 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 1: fun and we've got a lot of variety on the 645 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 1: M and Joe podcast this week. And then my guest 646 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 1: for the remaining podcast will be Wynton Hall, who's with 647 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,479 Speaker 1: me now. On the live show, we'll be doing a 648 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 1: super deep dive into code read his latest book, which 649 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 1: is rising up the charts. You're going to want to 650 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 1: read this thing. You will enjoy it. You'll learn a lot. 651 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 1: It's pretty tight and which is good. I think it's 652 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 1: shorter than all my books, even my shortest book, which 653 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 1: kind of made me think maybe I got to keep 654 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 1: tightening up those books. Winton's with me now. 655 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 3: Wynton tells me. 656 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 1: One last story, very skeptical. So we're canceling Caesar Chavez now, 657 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 1: which is really interesting. And this last item I really 658 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 1: want to bring up, and just note that he's a 659 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 1: closed borders guy. He's an anti I legally immigration guy, 660 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden we're unearthing all this me 661 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 1: too stuff from decades ago. So just keep that in mind. 662 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 1: I haven't dug in it deeply enough. Maybe he was 663 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 1: a real predator, but just coincident. They're canceling the brown 664 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 1: hero who happened to be for closed borders. That was 665 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 1: the last news item I wanted to make sure to 666 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 1: get to Wintin. Wintin, I told you before the break 667 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 1: to prep three things that you're skeptical of or you're 668 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 1: scared of a little bit, and you want to warn 669 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 1: the audience about with AI. And I think one of 670 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 1: them has gotta be I'm guessing based off of what 671 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 1: we're seeing today fed economic growth projections, no new job 672 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 1: growth right now. This is the fear, right, there's got 673 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 1: to be one of them that AI is going to 674 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 1: display a bunch of us. That's got to be number one. 675 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, that definitely is real fear because we're hearing that 676 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 6: not from people who are skeptics. We're hearing that from 677 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 6: the creators of AI. We're hearing that from people like 678 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 6: Dario ama Day predicting that in twelve months twelve months, 679 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 6: I mean we're really sitting right here between twelve months 680 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 6: and five years that you're looking at fifty percent of 681 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 6: white collar entry level jobs all being replaced. You're talking 682 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 6: about Mustapha Suliman and looking at his prediction of twelve 683 00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 6: months to eighteen months that all. 684 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 3: White collar tasks will be able to be replaced. 685 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 6: So these are the people building that technology that's number one. 686 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 3: And you could say, well, maybe that's. 687 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:11,360 Speaker 6: Hype marketing to build support for their own products and 688 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 6: investor cash. But we see that constantly, that job apocalypse 689 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:19,880 Speaker 6: narrative number two. I think the concern is around children, 690 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 6: and one of the things that we see is this 691 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 6: access in terms of cheat GPT, not chat GPT, the 692 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 6: use of AI for plagiarism, and the way that that 693 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 6: will have a dilatorious impact on the ability to have 694 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 6: critical thinking through cognitive offloading to AI as children become 695 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,880 Speaker 6: more reliant on it. We're hearing from teachers and professors 696 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 6: saying it's becoming a real problem and they're really worried 697 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 6: about it because the research has shown that is a 698 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 6: serious erosion. And then the third thing I would say 699 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,720 Speaker 6: is to make sure that we're talking about child safety 700 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 6: around so called AI girlfriends or AI companions. We're seeing 701 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 6: suicidal ideation by AI with young people and minors. We're 702 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 6: seeing actually what they've feel is compelling them to commit 703 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 6: suicide or self harm. We're also seeing violent actions being 704 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:12,360 Speaker 6: taught and or encouraged. This is real and when you 705 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,759 Speaker 6: think of these things, a lot of people say, gosh, 706 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 6: I can't even imagine this world. 707 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,319 Speaker 3: When did we ever have this? That's the reality. We 708 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 3: have to be coached up. When did you have. 709 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 1: One of the most horrifying anecdotes in the book is 710 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 1: about a woman who's a mother of two who is 711 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 1: either divorced or lost her husband, and she says, just 712 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:32,840 Speaker 1: flat out, unabashedly, she prefers her AI boyfriend and she 713 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 1: gives a rationale. I will tease that we can come 714 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 1: back to that on the podcast later in the week, 715 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,319 Speaker 1: because that blew my mind that people are thinking that way. 716 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,719 Speaker 1: It scared me a lot, because relationships are messy, but 717 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:45,240 Speaker 1: they're beautiful in the same way. AI relationships not as messy. 718 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,719 Speaker 1: But I got to leave the audience with something positive. 719 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,440 Speaker 1: Give me something you're actually excited about in the new 720 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 1: AI era. 721 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:57,839 Speaker 6: Absolutely excited about the potential for medical and scientific discoveries. 722 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,799 Speaker 6: When you have something that can do mass pattern recognition 723 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 6: at scale, you're able to find new connecting points there 724 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,400 Speaker 6: and again. As the son of a surgeon and a nurse, 725 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,719 Speaker 6: that excites me for the potential of it. I'm also 726 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 6: a cancer survivor, so I have a lot of feeling 727 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,719 Speaker 6: for a lot of people who are hoping for a 728 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:19,760 Speaker 6: wing and a prayer solution for medically, you know, medical impact. 729 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 6: The other thing I think that's really exciting. It's going 730 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 6: to be for young entrepreneurs, people who have fire in 731 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 6: the belly, who have a dream. All they want to 732 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,319 Speaker 6: have is some kind of technology that can enable them 733 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 6: to do things that would have cost millions of investor 734 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:37,399 Speaker 6: dollars before. That is going to be enormously helpful. They're 735 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,840 Speaker 6: going to be able to scale their dream in ways 736 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:43,280 Speaker 6: that nobody ever could, very fast and at very low costs. 737 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,680 Speaker 6: So I think there's a lot of things to be 738 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,359 Speaker 6: excited about. And again, we just really have to learn 739 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,880 Speaker 6: that battlescape so that we know where those potential landmines 740 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,120 Speaker 6: are and where those roses of opportunity are. 741 00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,719 Speaker 1: That last point was so good because the entrepreneurs are 742 00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:58,440 Speaker 1: gonna be able to start with and they're gonna need 743 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 1: so much less seed capital. Fundraising is like it's the 744 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:04,560 Speaker 1: biggest skill in Silicon Valley and in the entrepreneurial world. 745 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 1: Very brilliant stuff. Code Read is the book The Left, 746 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,480 Speaker 1: the Right, China and the Race to Control. Ai Wintenhall 747 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,240 Speaker 1: is the author. He's a close friend and a wonderful person, 748 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,759 Speaker 1: a great American. He's written many best sellers as a ghostwriter. 749 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:19,200 Speaker 1: Let's make this his first one as a author himself. 750 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,640 Speaker 1: Go in peace, to love and serve the Lord and 751 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:22,319 Speaker 1: buy code read