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Speaker 1: All right, welcome to the Carl Jackson Show. We've got

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Speaker 1: a special edition for you. I wanted to get this

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Speaker 1: gentleman on. He's written a couple of columns that I

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Speaker 1: want to go through for the Daily Signal. Tyler O'Neill.

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Speaker 1: He's the senior editor at the Daily Signal. Also the

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Speaker 1: author of a couple of books, Making Hate Pay, the

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Speaker 1: corruption of the Southern Poverty Law Center, which is great,

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Speaker 1: the Woke to Pus, the Dark mining cabal, manipulating the

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Speaker 1: federal government.

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Speaker 2: Very important topics there.

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Speaker 1: But the topics that I want to speak to him

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Speaker 1: today about that he's written about are the latest arrest

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Speaker 1: of the invaders, if you will, of the city's church.

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Speaker 1: I think this is so crucial. I think that it's

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Speaker 1: important that we don't let this story go. And I

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Speaker 1: want to speak about free speech obviously, and what don

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Speaker 1: Lemon and what is the ladies name that invaded the

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Speaker 1: church for?

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Speaker 2: Okay, there you go. Okay, so I'm going to speak

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Speaker 2: about nine of them now.

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Speaker 1: So I love this and I think this is something

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Speaker 1: that needed to happen. I really feel like Tyler correct

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Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong, and we'll start.

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Speaker 2: Obviously talking about this issue. With the City's Church.

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Speaker 1: But I'm not even sure that most conservatives get why

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Speaker 1: this is important. I mean, some people will look at

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Speaker 1: the arrest of the invaders, if you will, of Cities

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Speaker 1: Church and it's like, yeah, it's about time that we're

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Speaker 1: we're getting justice, we're seeing justice on the right, and

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Speaker 1: that sentiment is true. But I think there's bigger powers

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Speaker 1: at play. I really do think we're in a battle

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Speaker 1: for it. I think this is communism versus a Judeo

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Speaker 1: Christian nation, and I'm not even sure if the lemmings

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Speaker 1: on the left understand that. But that's kind of my

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Speaker 1: take on what's what happened at City's Church and why

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Speaker 1: this is so important that we don't allow people like

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Speaker 1: Don Lemon and these other rioters. In my opinion, I

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Speaker 1: don't want to call them protest to invade churches.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I call them agitators. Okay, I think that's a

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Speaker 3: clear like. And to be clear, I don't consider this

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Speaker 3: necessarily to have been a riot, but it does verge

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Speaker 3: almost on the on the line of domestic terrorism because

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Speaker 3: what they were doing here was terrorizing innocent people in

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Speaker 3: the name of convincing pastor at City's Church to no

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Speaker 3: longer work for ice, and by making ice so unacceptable,

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Speaker 3: so radioactive, that you could not be considered. So like,

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Speaker 3: the levels that they went to here are just astounding

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Speaker 3: because we saw them justify, you know, victimizing children. So

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Speaker 3: we we had in this case a man by the

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Speaker 3: name of William Kelly who has protested in various parts

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Speaker 3: of the country right and gotten in the way of

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Speaker 3: people who are either coming to work or are also

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Speaker 3: going to church in Washington, d C. But he was

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Speaker 3: there inside the building. And by the way, most of

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Speaker 3: the documents, like, the thing that's crazy about this case

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Speaker 3: is that almost everything in the indictment comes directly from

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Speaker 3: videos that these agitators themselves published of themselves in the church.

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Speaker 3: So like everything is this is self incrimination on every level.

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Speaker 3: But this guy, William Kelly, who goes by the name

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Speaker 3: Dewoke Farmer, he was getting up in the faces of

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Speaker 3: children and shouting at them and saying, do you know

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Speaker 3: that your parents are Nazis and going to Hell? And

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Speaker 3: in the midst of this, you had these agitators chanting

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Speaker 3: in the middle of the church shouting, who shut this down?

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Speaker 3: We shut this down? Talking about shutting down a church

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Speaker 3: service and The other aspect that I don't think gets

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Speaker 3: enough discussion here is that these agitators were blocking parents

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Speaker 3: from getting to the childcare section where their children were,

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Speaker 3: and so on so many different levels. Here. You have

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Speaker 3: the invasion of private property property that is set aside

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Speaker 3: for church during a worship service. They're taking over, they're

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Speaker 3: bragging about taking it over. They're blocking parents from getting

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Speaker 3: to their children. There's a new aspect in the latest

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Speaker 3: version of the indictment that I hadn't heard, where not

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Speaker 3: only were they scoping out the parking lot ahead of time, saying, oh,

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Speaker 3: we can block people from getting in and getting out

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Speaker 3: by positioning ourselves here, but then after the incident, there's

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Speaker 3: a van that's trying to leave, and Georgia Fort, one

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Speaker 3: of the so called journalists, I mean, I think she

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Speaker 3: is a journalist, but in this case she's acting more

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Speaker 3: as an agitator, is interviewing Nikima Armstrong, who organized the

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Speaker 3: whole thing, and they do the interview right in front

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Speaker 3: of the bus that is attempting to leave. And so

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Speaker 3: you have this situation where people are blocked inside the

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Speaker 3: service from leaving when they're scared, I mean, and these

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Speaker 3: agitators they're standing up and shout and chanting. One of

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Speaker 3: the things that they chant is hands up, don't shoot,

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Speaker 3: and they're they're trying to echo general movement. They're trying

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Speaker 3: to echo the Black Lives Matter movement. But in the

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Speaker 3: context there, you know, people congreens there are are afraid

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Speaker 3: that there's that this is an active shooter situation. There

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Speaker 3: are people standing up all around you, chanting, shouting, and

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Speaker 3: suddenly you know, you're in church. You're sitting there, you

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Speaker 3: don't know what's going on, and they're shouting hands up,

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Speaker 3: don't shoot. I think there's a rational fear that maybe

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Speaker 3: there's a shooting going on here.

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Speaker 1: You know, And I think I think you've laid out

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Speaker 1: the case well. I tend to agree with you after

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Speaker 1: hearing your description. You're absolutely right. I think this this

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Speaker 1: is more along the lines of domestic terrorism. A couple

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Speaker 1: of things that I'd like to ask you for. One,

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Speaker 1: I'd like to know if the DLJ plans to charge

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Speaker 1: any of these people with kidnapping.

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Speaker 2: I know that that may sound outrageous.

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Speaker 1: When you're blocking parents from picking up their children, it

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Speaker 1: seems to me that that meets that that particular threshold. Also,

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Speaker 1: I just I want you to speak to the fact that, Okay,

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Speaker 1: this agitators they go into a church, but at large,

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Speaker 1: do you think this is a battle between seriously communism

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Speaker 1: and the Judeo Christian principles that have undergird it this country.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So to answer your first question, the specific charges

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Speaker 3: that the Fed's brought here, the most revealing aspect of

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Speaker 3: all of this is how so what we should have

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Speaker 3: had are local and state prosecutors bringing charges against these people,

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Speaker 3: Like in a just world, the authorities in Minnesota and

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Speaker 3: Minneapolis should be the ones who are bringing charges. But

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Speaker 3: they're not. And why aren't they? Well, it's partially because

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Speaker 3: right after this happened, Keith Ellison, who is the Attorney

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Speaker 3: church goers essentially needed to just put up with it.

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Speaker 3: He said that people have rights to protest in this country,

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Speaker 3: and he completely overlooked just how egregious this situation is.

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Speaker 3: So when you have the top prosecutor in the state

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Speaker 3: saying things like that, that's the reason why the FEDS

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Speaker 3: had to get involved. And they brought two specific charges

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Speaker 3: that I think have have strong resonance in this case

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Speaker 3: for a lot of reasons. Both of these charges were

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Speaker 3: laws that were passed in Congress in order to allow

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Speaker 3: the federal government to prosecute people for violating the rights

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Speaker 3: of Americans when state and local authorities are falling down

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Speaker 3: on the job. And so here you have the FACE Act,

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Speaker 3: which is the Freedom of Access to Clinic Entrances Act,

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Speaker 3: and the ku Klux Klan Act. The FACE Act was

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Speaker 3: passed in order to protect abortion centers, which is kind

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Speaker 3: of ironic, but they also threw in there a provision

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Speaker 3: that's very important to protect religious services and houses of worship,

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Speaker 3: and so in this case it very clearly applies to

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Speaker 3: the houses of worship angle. The Ku Klux Klan Act

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Speaker 3: was very important because that was passed after Reconstruction, when

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Speaker 3: you had the Ku Klux Klan going and intimidating, depriving

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Speaker 3: black people of their rights in the South, and many

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Speaker 3: of the governments in these southern states did not want

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Speaker 3: to charge the Klan for violating the rights of these

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Speaker 3: black people because they sided with the clan. So the

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Speaker 3: federal government said, no, the Justice Department will bring charges

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Speaker 3: and vindicate the rights of these people whose rights are

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Speaker 3: being violated and the states won't stand up for them.

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Speaker 3: On your other question. I think this is a spiritual battle.

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Speaker 3: I think what we're seeing on the left from so

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Speaker 3: many different corners is yes, communism, yes, critical race theory,

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Speaker 3: transgender ideology, the constellation of issues that I define as woke.

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Speaker 3: I think, are you know they're so dark that they

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Speaker 3: and these these are ideas that I think people believe.

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Speaker 3: But I don't know exactly how we can understand this

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Speaker 3: without seeing a spiritual dimension of evil. And that's not

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Speaker 3: to say that evil only presents itself ever on the left. Sure,

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Speaker 3: I mean, I do think we're seeing a lot of

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Speaker 3: anti Semitism on the side of you know people, I

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Speaker 3: don't consider them to be part of the right or

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Speaker 3: conservatism anymore, but they definitely were on that side for

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Speaker 3: a long time. I think we have to be attention

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Speaker 3: to the evil that can rise from both sides of

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Speaker 3: the political spectrum. But I also think that the ideologies

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Speaker 3: that dominate the left are particularly noxious and destructive. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I absolutely agree with you, and we'll get into the

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Speaker 1: point that you made about those that are on the

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Speaker 1: right in just a moment here in another segment. But

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Speaker 1: I think the left has been so they've been able

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Speaker 1: to get away with murder metaphorically speaking in places like Minneapolis,

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Speaker 1: Minnesota in general, under the leadership of Governor Wallace and

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Speaker 1: Mayor Fry and A. G. Keith Ellison there, I mean,

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Speaker 1: they're used to protesting, being disruptive, being agitators, and nothing

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Speaker 1: has ever done about it. But this makes it, Honestly,

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Speaker 1: the midterms. We say this every time, but I think

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Speaker 1: it is so true again anyway, that these midterms are

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Speaker 1: so important and a lot of people think it's ironic

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Speaker 1: that these people were charged with the KKK act. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: why is it ironic? The Democrat Party is the party

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Speaker 1: of the KKK. I don't know why this is ironic.

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Speaker 1: It shouldn't be. But anyway, Tyler O'Neill, thank you for

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Speaker 1: joining us. I really appreciate you in your time today.

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Speaker 1: God bless you.

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