1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,640 Speaker 1: And oh all back. 2 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 2: Down May May Hey, everybody, thanks so much for joining 3 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 2: us right here on the right view tonight we're joined 4 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 2: by Florida congresswoman, my friend you know her, you love her, 5 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:20,280 Speaker 2: Anna Paulina Luna. 6 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 3: Thank you much for joining us tonight. Congresswoman. We're so 7 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 3: excited to have you on. You have been very vocal 8 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 3: on X about pushing for a band on insider trading 9 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 3: in Congress. I think this is music to a lot 10 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 3: of people's ears. So tell me about this. What inspired 11 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,160 Speaker 3: you to lead this charge? 12 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 4: Well, since I got in, there's been this no no 13 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 4: like kind of this dirty little secret that all members 14 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 4: of Congress know that there are members actively getting and 15 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 4: engaging in insider trading, so obviously super illegal, but people 16 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 4: kept saying they wanted to do something publicly about it, 17 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 4: especially to the press, but they weren't actually doing anything. 18 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 4: And so I was actually sitting on the steps of 19 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 4: the Capitol with Representative Birchet from Tennessee, and we had 20 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 4: just seen a massive posting from I think it was 21 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 4: that unusual Wales website, but there was a member of 22 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 4: Congress that had done a multimillion dollar trade. Of course, 23 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 4: the legislation went through, so they basically shortened the stock 24 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 4: and I'm like, this is this has to stop, right 25 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:21,199 Speaker 4: Like optically, the American people a don't respect Congress because 26 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 4: of it. I think it's in part why this institution 27 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 4: is so broken, because how could you ever expect to 28 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 4: fix anything if you're personally profiting. And so I said, 29 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:30,479 Speaker 4: you know what, We're just going to force the vote 30 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 4: on this. And so there's a piece of bipartisan legislation 31 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 4: over one hundred Democrats and Republicans collectively had signed onto 32 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 4: to actually bring to the floor for a vote, but 33 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 4: no one in House leadership actually wanted to do it, 34 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 4: and so we filed the discharge petition. We've so far 35 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 4: collected over seventy signatures for it. And then I just 36 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 4: actually got notification about an hour and a half ago 37 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 4: that the speakers wanting to meet with us on Thursday 38 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 4: to discuss bringing the bill to the floor in a 39 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 4: normal fashion, which I would advocate for, but I mean, Laura, 40 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 4: it's been an ongoing issue in a nutshell for a 41 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 4: very long time. No one wanted to fix it, so 42 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 4: we figured we forced the conversation in the bot well. 43 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 3: So that's great news. So hopefully we're going to see 44 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:08,519 Speaker 3: some movement on this soon. You said you have over 45 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:11,799 Speaker 3: seventy members who signed on to the petition, you have 46 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 3: the Speaker wanting to meet about it. Is there something 47 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:15,679 Speaker 3: else you would need or do you just need the 48 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 3: speaker's blessing to get it on the floor. 49 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 4: Well, the Speaker could put it technically on the floor, 50 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 4: you know, this week if you wanted to write, But 51 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 4: ultimately it'll probably happen when we get back, just because 52 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 4: there has to be consensus on the bill. But there's 53 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 4: a lot of parliamentary stuff that goes into it, right, 54 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 4: Like to do an open amendment process would be to 55 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 4: allow members to provide amendments and then mark it up 56 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 4: literally on the floor, and then whatever passes is then 57 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 4: codified and sol and sent over to the Senate. Right, 58 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 4: so that would be the typical process. But I mean, 59 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 4: either which way, when you have people like Nancy Pelosi 60 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 4: who has made seventeen thousand percent returns on her initial investment, 61 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:51,519 Speaker 4: which is statistically not possible unless you are literally insider trading, 62 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 4: and then members both Democrats and Republicans who do engage 63 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 4: in the individual stock trader making now on average six 64 00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 4: hundred percent returns on their investments out performing the SA 65 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 4: or you'll have people that have never traded stocks in 66 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 4: their life and all of a sudden they come to 67 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 4: Congress and their you know, outperforming Wall Street. That's a problem, 68 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 4: and so you know it is it is a step 69 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 4: forward in the right direction. I've also heard from, you know, 70 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 4: some of my Democrat colleagues, one most notably Hockeying Jeffreys, 71 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 4: that said, well, you know, Luna just parachuted in and 72 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 4: she doesn't want to include the executive branch. 73 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 5: Well, I would argue that. 74 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 4: If we had the same standards as an executive branch, 75 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 4: that there would be no insider trading. And so that's 76 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 4: been kind of interesting to see Democrats kind of try 77 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 4: to box himself into the corner on this because it's like, 78 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 4: why would you not want. 79 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:30,679 Speaker 5: To fix this. 80 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 4: I've been in Congress a lot less of time versus 81 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 4: these other people, and so why am I having to 82 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 4: fix it? 83 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 5: But here I am. 84 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: Well, it's interesting. 85 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 3: I give you a lot of credit for taking this 86 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 3: on because you know, there are a lot of people, 87 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 3: very clearly congresswomen who've made a lot of money because 88 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 3: of this, and I'm sure there are a lot of 89 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 3: people in Congress who were probably like I wish Luna 90 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 3: would just stop talking and just kind of write like 91 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 3: you know that you think about that. I mean, has 92 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 3: anyone ever other than obviously what Hakim Jeffrey said, But 93 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 3: do people ever say like, hey, just knock it. 94 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: Off, like that's enough. 95 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 5: Yeah. 96 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 4: I was told that if we forced the vote, that 97 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 4: we were going to cost you know, the Republican Party 98 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 4: in the midterms, that we were going to destroy democracy, 99 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 4: that we were trying to just force their colleagues to 100 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 4: take bad votes. But I would say to that, you know, 101 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 4: first of all, destroying the democracy of the republic. You know, 102 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 4: the founding fathers didn't have stock portfolios, and they different 103 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 4: definitely didn't anticipate that legislation would be kind of run 104 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 4: the way that it is in the Congress, would be 105 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:30,679 Speaker 4: a full time job at that So probably separate discussion 106 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 4: for term limits. 107 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 5: But specifically to that. 108 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, they've told me that, you know, this is not 109 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:37,160 Speaker 4: wildly popular. 110 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:38,359 Speaker 5: But it's interesting because you look at the. 111 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 4: Polling and eighty six percent of Americans support this, yep, 112 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 4: bipartisan length. 113 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 3: I was going to say, I think it's probably unpopular 114 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 3: within the walls of in the halls of Congress. I 115 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 3: think out in the country, the American people would love 116 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 3: to see something like this because I think it actually says, 117 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 3: as you noted, like we should be the example, we 118 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 3: should be doing the right thing here in Congress, right, 119 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 3: So I think that to me, I think that's a 120 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 3: win for the midterms. 121 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 1: I don't know who thinks otherwise. 122 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:07,720 Speaker 4: But you're a smart one. 123 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: Well thank you. 124 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 3: But you know something else that I think has been 125 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 3: very kind of crazy to see happen. But I guess 126 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 3: maybe you shouldn't surprise us are the activist judges and 127 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 3: prosecutors in these blue states. 128 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 1: Now. I know that you've talked about this. 129 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 3: I've heard, of course the President and Vice president talk 130 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 3: about it. Is there anything that can be done there? 131 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 3: Because I think it is. It's outrageous that it feels 132 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 3: like they're they're thwarting the will of the president, and 133 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 3: that is really the will of the American people who 134 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 3: put them there. 135 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 4: I mean, you know, in the state of Florida, for example, 136 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 4: if we have individuals prosecutors that are undermining federal law. 137 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 4: I mean, I think that there's a certain statute where 138 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 4: the governor could essentially remove someone and we actually had 139 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 4: a case that it happened with a source appointed, a 140 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 4: source funded prosecutor. But you know, for the rest of 141 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 4: the country, unfortunately, I do think that a lot of 142 00:05:58,520 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 4: these are. 143 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 5: You know, kind of an touchable and that's why they 144 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 5: choose to pursue what they do. 145 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 4: But it doesn't necessarily mean that you can't hold them accountable. 146 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:08,239 Speaker 4: For example, when you have you know, judges for example, 147 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 4: that are upholding certain legislation. 148 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 5: Let's say a city's doing something. 149 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 4: Undermining federal law, maybe it goes to court they're undermining it. Well, 150 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 4: there's still something that the DOJ can do if you 151 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:19,479 Speaker 4: know that someone's breaking a federal law, right and so 152 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:22,799 Speaker 4: I think that the DOJ right now is pretty much understaffed, 153 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 4: specifically with the amount of people and resources that they 154 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 4: really have to be able to pursue everything. And to 155 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 4: be clear, you know, you have the Trump administration coming in, 156 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 4: but this is like decades of consolidated power and really swampy, 157 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 4: deep state bureaucratic behavior that has to be really fleshed out. 158 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 5: And so you know, you could bring forward. 159 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 4: All the prosecutor or all the cases for prosecution, but 160 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 4: if you don't have the proper attorneys, the AUSA attorneys 161 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:45,679 Speaker 4: to actually try the cases. 162 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 5: Then your short. 163 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 4: Staff there and so would What I would continue to 164 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 4: say is, you know, Congress has that specific ability to 165 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 4: use and leverage the power of the purse. And so 166 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 4: if you see that cities and counties and states are 167 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,359 Speaker 4: not playing ball with the right thing to do with 168 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 4: with what the federal governments legislating on and really upholding 169 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 4: the laws of the land, then why the heck are 170 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 4: we funding them? Why are we giving these representatives for 171 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 4: these areas and these districts such massive earmarks and the 172 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 4: appropriation spills. I mean, that's something that I think Congress 173 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 4: as a whole needs to be more aggressive about. But 174 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 4: it does seem really in the last couple of years, 175 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 4: it seemed like Congress really was very happy to not 176 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 4: have social media because they could do these things kind 177 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 4: of behind closed doors and you could didn't really have 178 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 4: a spotlight on it. But now there's people like myself 179 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 4: and others that will call it out and identify it directly. 180 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 4: So I guess it's made me again, probably wildly and 181 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 4: popular within the House Chamber, but popular among the American people. 182 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 3: Well, we like that you have always have a place 183 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 3: in our hearts for sure. Something that I think is 184 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 3: really amazing is you helped stop American tax dollars from 185 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 3: going to the Taliban, which I mean, first of all, 186 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 3: that is quite an accomplishment. 187 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: I hope you're proud of that. 188 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 3: And please explain how on earth we found ourselves in 189 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 3: this situation where he was going there anyway. 190 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, for so to provide context, I would have never 191 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 4: voted for legislation that allowed that to happen, because that 192 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 4: Taliban literally shot my husband in twenty fourteen when he 193 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 4: was deployed. So like, that's the perspective. And I don't 194 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 4: think that we should be funding any organization or government 195 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 4: like that. We have a lot other bigger issues to fry. 196 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 4: But specifically to that legislation, Tim Burchette had actually come 197 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 4: up with a piece of legislation I think the numbers 198 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 4: like about forty million a week going to the Taliban, 199 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 4: and he put it into log He wanted it to 200 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 4: be in the National Defense Authorization Act that no US 201 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 4: dollars would go to the government of Afghanistan, i e. 202 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 5: The Taliban. 203 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 4: Right, it was like very simple language, and they refused 204 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 4: to add it into the National Defense Authorization Act. In fact, 205 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 4: there was one staffer specifically that ripped it out over there. 206 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 4: And then so what we did is when it came 207 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 4: time for the bill to be voted on on the 208 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:50,679 Speaker 4: House floor, so went to Senate and then came back 209 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:52,559 Speaker 4: to the House to you know, be sent through then 210 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 4: off to the President's ysk for signature. Birchett, myself and 211 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 4: Bober actually withheld our votes and then we actually had 212 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 4: the Speaker get the Secretary of State on the phone 213 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 4: and explain the situation. And Secretary Rubia, to his credit, 214 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 4: said like, first of all, we are unaware that this 215 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 4: was still happening, and Burchette actually does have a list 216 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 4: of about a thousand NGOs that are actually engaging in this. 217 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 5: We totally have the paper trail for it. 218 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 4: And so he said, look, make an appointment with my 219 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 4: office as soon as you get this. Get this information 220 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 4: directly to me, and I'll cut it off immediately. He 221 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 4: was joking, goes, youah, the President would have my behind 222 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 4: if you realized that the State Department was doing this. 223 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 5: And so, to Rubia's. 224 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 4: Credit, had he not been made aware of that and 225 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 4: had we not withheld the vote, then that wouldn't have happened. 226 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 4: Because there's so many people that, especially within the Secretary 227 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 4: or even the executive branch, they try to kind of 228 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:39,599 Speaker 4: consolidate and pad and insulate really the members or the 229 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 4: secretary in these different positions. 230 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 5: And so we're able to go direct. 231 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 4: General has always talked to General, so we're able to 232 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 4: go direct to sender. And actually I believe it's going 233 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 4: to be sometime this week that Secretary Rubio will be 234 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 4: meeting with Timberjett and myself to actually get that finalized. 235 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 3: I cannot believe that any anyone was advocating for that. 236 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 3: That is, it's just mind byuggling. It's just mind boggling. 237 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 3: But thank you, thank you for making sure that didn't happen. 238 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 3: That is absolutely wild. But it just goes to show 239 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 3: what a little bit of thoughtfulness and effort will do. 240 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 3: You know, a lot of people would have just been 241 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:16,959 Speaker 3: fine to say, like, all right, this isn't our problem, 242 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 3: like we're just going to look the other way. But 243 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 3: it takes someone like you. It takes someone like President 244 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 3: Trump who says, whoa, whoa, whoa, this is this is 245 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 3: not right, Like we can't continue on like this. So 246 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 3: so thank you for so much for doing that. This 247 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 3: has been quite a year in Congress, It's been quite 248 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 3: a year for the country. Obviously, we have President Trump 249 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 3: as his into his first full year back in the 250 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 3: White House. What what do you expect to see happen 251 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 3: in twenty twenty six. What are some of your priorities 252 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 3: and focus is going to be in the coming year? 253 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 4: The number one thing, I think, especially for the based 254 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 4: Republican voter, and then also for turnout for the midterms, 255 00:10:58,040 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 4: because remember, if we don't win the midterms, it's going 256 00:10:59,920 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 4: to be impeachment two point out all over again. And 257 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 4: you know, it's interesting because even Nancy Pulos is like, 258 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 4: why don't see grounds for impeachment? Well, Nancy, where there 259 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 4: was never grounds for impeachment in the first place. But 260 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 4: she's also on our way out, so she's not worried 261 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:13,559 Speaker 4: about her reelection, so she's telling the truth for probably 262 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 4: the first time in her entire career. But you know, 263 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 4: you have this aspect of really the American people and 264 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 4: really like some members of Congress like myself, that are 265 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 4: frustrated that we haven't been able to codify more of 266 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 4: Trump's executive orders. And so just today it was announced 267 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 4: out of the House top that I believe that it's 268 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 4: going to be eighty one executive orders. I think it 269 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 4: was Caroline Lovett maybe that was also in conjunction discussing 270 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 4: this of the executive orders will be codified into law, 271 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 4: and that's incredibly important because you know, when eventually a 272 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 4: Democrat administration comes in or a Democrat Congress comes in, 273 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 4: you have to make sure that those laws are literally 274 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 4: carved in stone, because it's not that often that you 275 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 4: have a Democrat super majority or Republican supermajority, which means 276 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 4: you have all three chambers House, Senate and then White 277 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 4: House as well, or two chambers and then the White House, 278 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 4: and so it's really important that we make sure that happens. 279 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 4: So i'd say that that's probably topic number one, and 280 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 4: then also to talking about issues of affordability. Remember President 281 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:08,679 Speaker 4: Trump inherited literally a garbage on fire from the Biden administration, 282 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 4: and there's certain things that we can do though to 283 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 4: ensure that everything that he's been fighting for, and really 284 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 4: he's been doing a lot of the heavy blocking that 285 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 4: we're able to get wins on. 286 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 5: And so the number one thing I think would. 287 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 4: Be focusing on is, for example, something easy like a 288 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 4: capping prescription pill prices. 289 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 5: That's something that's incredibly like just in. 290 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 4: My opinion, it's very you know, you don't have to 291 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 4: think about it too much on understanding that that's a 292 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 4: win for the American people and so things like that 293 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 4: I think would be top priority. And then also to 294 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 4: ensuring that Congress is backing the president's perspective and the 295 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:41,079 Speaker 4: administration really on his foreign policy. I do think I 296 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 4: think a lot of people have not talked about this, 297 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 4: but if President Trump, which I think he will be, 298 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 4: with Steve Wincoffin and also Jared Kushner being able to 299 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 4: accomplish the Ukraine Russia peace deal, we're talking about a 300 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 4: two trillion dollar trade deal potential on the horizon, that's 301 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 4: going to be great for everyone. I mean, you think 302 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 4: that right now things are expensive actuality, I think that 303 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 4: it's going to drop significantly better than you would have 304 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 4: ever seen under the Biden administration. 305 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 3: Well, I will tell you all of that stuff sounds 306 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 3: absolutely great to me and to a lot of people. 307 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:13,839 Speaker 3: And I love that you brought up the midterms. This 308 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:15,599 Speaker 3: is just to wrap it up, because we know you 309 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 3: got things going on. You know, everyone talks about the 310 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:23,319 Speaker 3: midterms Everyone talks about why we need to win these midterms, 311 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 3: But I still believe that if the Democrats were able 312 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 3: to get their you know, claws back in Congress, that 313 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 3: they were able to get a majority in the House 314 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 3: and Senate again. Congresswoman, I think that we're looking at 315 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 3: DC and Puerto Rico statehood. I think we're looking at 316 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 3: a pack Supreme Court. I think we're looking at eliminating 317 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 3: the filibuster. I think this could be very dangerous. And 318 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 3: you're absolutely right, they're gonna they can't wait to impeach 319 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 3: the president again. It's all they're just salivating over the 320 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 3: prospect of it. Tell the American people why this is 321 00:13:56,280 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 3: so important to keep a House and Senate under Republican 322 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 3: leadership in the coming year. 323 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, because, I mean they've said it. The Democrats have 324 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 4: said it point blank. I mean their game plan is 325 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 4: to a obstruct and then be impeach where they can. 326 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:13,199 Speaker 4: And so they are going to do everything that they can. 327 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 4: If you think that you're you know, noticing gas prices 328 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 4: going down, et cetera, that's because of foreign policy wins, 329 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 4: that's because of domestic policy wins. And they're going to 330 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 4: do everything they can to stop that. You know, it's 331 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 4: interesting right now, we're talking about health care a lot 332 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 4: on the Hill and you have, you know, people like 333 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 4: Mike Lawler, who actually had you know, a great floor speech. 334 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 4: He goes, you know, the Democrats aren't even trying to 335 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 4: fix this issue. We have maybe potentially solutions here, but 336 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 4: they don't even want to allow their members to sign 337 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 4: on to a discharge petition that could offer solution because 338 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 4: they're actually not focused on actually fixing it. They're focused 339 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 4: on reelecting, trying to get their base drummed up for 340 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 4: the midterms and a show of support, and that you know, 341 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 4: they really don't care at. 342 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 5: What cost or expense that it happens at. 343 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 4: And so I you know, unfortunately, I see these conversations 344 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 4: happen on a regular basis behind closed doors. 345 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 5: And so that's the reality. We have a very short window. 346 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 4: And look, I'm a member of Congress, and I'm not 347 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 4: always happy with the way that Congress performs. 348 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 5: However, I can tell you it's a heck of a. 349 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 4: Lot better in this administration and in a Republican health 350 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 4: Congress than under Democrat or Democrat presidency. 351 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 5: And that's just the fact of the matter. 352 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 4: You know, we went from having you know, people flashing 353 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 4: people on the White House lawn that were biological males, 354 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 4: to a number of other creepy things happening out of 355 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 4: the Department of the formal Department of Defense, to where 356 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 4: we have a strong military, we have you know, class 357 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 4: back in the White House, and we have a lot 358 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 4: of good people that genuinely care about this country. 359 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:27,359 Speaker 5: And so we're going to continue. 360 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 4: I hope to be on the campaign trail with you 361 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 4: and with the President in the midterms. I'm sure you'll 362 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 4: be out there. He loves you. You're great at what 363 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 4: you do. Laura, thank you, and we'll be helping the 364 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 4: president bring home the win. 365 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 5: We have to do it. 366 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 3: It's important, you know, people tend to during these midterm 367 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 3: years kind of get laxadaisical about things. We can't do 368 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 3: that it's too important. You have to understand that if 369 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 3: you went out and voted in twenty twenty four for 370 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 3: President Trump and you like the wins that he's been scoring, 371 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 3: you got to keep them going for the last half 372 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 3: of his second term in office, and you have to 373 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 3: get out and vote in those midterms. So Congresswoman Patlin Aluna, 374 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 3: thank you so much for joining us this evening. 375 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: We appreciate you. 376 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 3: Thanks for all you do, keep kicking ass there in 377 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 3: DC and taking names. We absolutely love to see it 378 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 3: and we'll talk to you very soon. 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Orders 413 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 3: placed between now in December twenty fifth will have their 414 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 3: guarantee extended all the way through March first, twenty twenty six. 415 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 3: We're joined by President of the American Experiment, John Hinderocker. John, 416 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:21,880 Speaker 3: Welcome to the show. Thank you so much for being 417 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 3: with us. As someone who's based in Minnesota, you know 418 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 3: where we gotta go. We gotta go to the fraud. 419 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 3: I have to ask you about this. It is so 420 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 3: mind boggling to think that at least that we know 421 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:37,119 Speaker 3: of a billion dollars in fraud was committed there in 422 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 3: the state of Minnesota. Tell me about what you found 423 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 3: to be the case there. Did people know that there 424 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 3: was something going on where they're whispers of this before 425 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 3: it came to light, because I think a lot of 426 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 3: us were totally shaken whenever we heard the news of 427 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 3: this come out. 428 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 6: Well, first of all, the assistant US Attorney who has 429 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 6: prosecuted all these cases has publicly said that. 430 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 7: The total fraud, and there are multiple. 431 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 6: Frauds, add up to the billions of dollars plurals. He 432 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 6: says his office does not have the band power to 433 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 6: prosecute the ball. Some of these people are going to 434 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:13,879 Speaker 6: walk because law enforcement really just can't handle the multiplicity 435 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 6: of frauds. 436 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 7: So there's a lot of history here. 437 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 6: My organization American Experiment on my website power Line have 438 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 6: both been writing about the Feeding our Future fraud, which 439 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 6: is the biggest of them and the one that got 440 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 6: the most famous since January of twenty twenty two. So 441 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 6: that'll be four years next month. 442 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:32,400 Speaker 7: Wow. 443 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 6: This is locally really kind of an old story. It 444 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 6: was investigated by the FBI, it's been prosecuted by the 445 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 6: US Attorney's Office, and there have been two trials with 446 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 6: criminal convictions. There's another fifty or sixty defendants who have 447 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 6: pleaded guilty, and so there's a lot of water over 448 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 6: this dam. And there have been prior scandals centered in 449 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:54,880 Speaker 6: the Somali community here in Minnesota. You can go back 450 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 6: a decade and there were childcare scandals where people would 451 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 6: just make up aims of Somali children and claim that 452 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 6: they're caring for them in these daycare centers, and in 453 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 6: fact they didn't exist. And there were some criminal prosecutions 454 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:11,120 Speaker 6: I think a decade ago, arising out of those frauds. 455 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 7: So there's a lot of history here. Wow. 456 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 3: So how did that one the feeding our future start 457 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 3: to come to light? Was there something special that kind 458 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 3: of broke the dam on that? 459 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 7: Well? 460 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 6: I think actually there were some people in the Somali 461 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 6: community who started blowing the whistle and say, hey, there's 462 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 6: an enormous amount of money flowing out of the state 463 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 6: government and going to defraudsters. And the FBI got a 464 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 6: tip and they started to investigate. State authorities never did 465 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:44,919 Speaker 6: do anything. There was a lawsuit going on between Feeding 466 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 6: Our Future and the Department of Education of the State 467 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 6: of Minnesota, which is the agency that oversaw that particular program. 468 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 6: That lawsuit dragged on for some time. But these prosecutions 469 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 6: have all been federal and they've all been the result 470 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:04,120 Speaker 6: of investstigation by the FBI and prosecution by the US 471 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 6: Attorney's Office now extending over a period of going on 472 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:08,679 Speaker 6: four years. 473 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 3: So the question that everyone has, and I don't know 474 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 3: that we'll ever get an answer to this, is why 475 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 3: did Governor Tim Walls's administration failed to either prevent this 476 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 3: or stop it whenever? It seems like they knew about it. 477 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 3: From what I've read, it sounds like there were kind 478 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 3: of rumblings of this, but they said, oh, we don't 479 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 3: want to look like we're targeting a certain group or anything. 480 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:36,360 Speaker 1: What is your take on that. 481 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 6: Well, there's a lot you could say there. The Legislative 482 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 6: Auditor did an investigation, wrote a very good report tracing 483 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 6: the history of the Feeding our Future fraud in particular 484 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 6: and talking about the reasons for it, and she concluded 485 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 6: that the ultimate cause was a culture within these state 486 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 6: agencies where they just don't care about other people's money. 487 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 6: They're there to write check and they didn't really care 488 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 6: is this legit, is it fraudulent? Is a person eligible 489 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:09,959 Speaker 6: for this program? They saw their job simply as writing checks. 490 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 6: I think it goes a little bit deeper than that. 491 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:17,400 Speaker 6: The Walls administration has poured billions and billions of dollars 492 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,679 Speaker 6: into the Somali community. Some of it was legal, some 493 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 6: of it was legitimate, some of it was just successively generous, 494 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,439 Speaker 6: and we now know that a lot of it was fraudulent. 495 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 6: But at the end of the day, that didn't really matter. 496 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 6: The billions of dollars that the Walls administration poured into 497 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:37,199 Speaker 6: the Somali community had the desired result, which is to 498 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 6: create a very loyal and substantial voting block in the 499 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 6: city of Minneapolis, in Hannipin County, which is the county 500 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 6: of Minneapolis is in, and even the whole state. 501 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 7: There have been statewide. 502 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:53,159 Speaker 6: Elections that have been swung by Somali voters, and I 503 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 6: think that is probably the ultimate cause. This is a 504 00:22:56,600 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 6: classic example of using other people's money to buy votes. 505 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 3: You know, to hear you say that the people who 506 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 3: were kind of working in these different agencies weren't concerned 507 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 3: with other people's money. I think that's exactly right, and 508 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 3: I think it's part of the thing that frustrates so 509 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 3: many Americans. It's why John, I'm guessing whenever people started 510 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 3: hearing initially about Doge and what Elon Musk was doing 511 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 3: with Doge, people were like, well, thank god, somebody is 512 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 3: paying attention, because it feels like to the average American 513 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 3: that you have no idea what happens to your money, 514 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 3: and you assume the worst, You assume that things like 515 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 3: this are happening out there. And to hear that that 516 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 3: was probably the case, man, that is so upsetting and 517 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 3: so frustrating and shame on all of these people. 518 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 1: You got to be better than that. That is part 519 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: of your job. 520 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,399 Speaker 3: And I'm hopefully they clean house and we get you know, 521 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 3: new people in there at the very least who understand 522 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 3: the value of people's money. 523 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:54,479 Speaker 1: But I think you're right. 524 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 3: I think a lot of this comes down to politics. 525 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 3: When you hear Tim Walls, I believe it was this weekend, 526 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,679 Speaker 3: a fundraising event in Seattle, talking about the fact that 527 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 3: he wants to bring more Somali's into the state of Minnesota. 528 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 1: That kind of tells you all you need to know. 529 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 7: John, It kind of boggles the mind. Let me just 530 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 7: add this thing. 531 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:17,880 Speaker 6: There are multiple programs, multiple different frauds. What are these programs? 532 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,959 Speaker 6: It was a medicaid program and the idea was to 533 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 6: give people advice on how they could find housing. What 534 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,719 Speaker 6: that has to do with medicaid, I don't know. But 535 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:30,160 Speaker 6: an investigation found that out of the one hundred million 536 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 6: dollars that program spent last year twenty twenty four, there 537 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:36,640 Speaker 6: was not a single. 538 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 7: Dollar that was proper and legal. 539 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:44,159 Speaker 6: The entire one hundred million dollars was completely fraudulent, and 540 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 6: they terminated the program. So we're not just talking about 541 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 6: a little fraud around the edges, you know, We're talking 542 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:54,959 Speaker 6: about just unbelievable, pervasive, massive fraud. 543 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,640 Speaker 3: Jeez, let me ask Let me ask you about Tim 544 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 3: Walls becoming Kamala Harris's v pick. 545 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:02,679 Speaker 1: Did that surprise you? What did you make of that? 546 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 6: Well, I think it's surprised almost everywhere. You know he 547 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 6: got on the short list. I'm to put out a 548 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 6: list of five or six people, and Tim Wallas was 549 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 6: probably the least well known and the least likely to 550 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:17,640 Speaker 6: get the VP nomination on that list. But in my opinion, 551 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 6: what happened is that one thing after another came along. 552 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 6: So Mark Kelly was probably going to be the guy 553 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 6: I started from Arizona that it turned out he was 554 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:29,159 Speaker 6: a partner in a satellite deal with the communist Chinese. 555 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 1: That'll do it every time. 556 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, the governor of Kentucky pulled out for whatever reason, 557 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 6: so what after another fell? It looked like it was 558 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 6: going to be Josh Shapiro, the governor of Pennsylvania. But 559 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,879 Speaker 6: then at the eleventh and they even scheduled the rally 560 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 6: where they're going to make the announcement in Philadelphia. It 561 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 6: wasn't Minneapolis, it was Philadelphia, and Josh Shapiro. 562 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 7: Was going to be the VP nominee. 563 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 6: But then just days before that happened, there was a 564 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 6: story that came out when he was a college student, 565 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 6: he wrote a paper that was critical of the Palestinians, 566 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 6: was pro Israel. The anti Semites on Twitter went crazy, 567 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 6: genocide Josh, hashtag genocide Josh was all over left wing Twitter. 568 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,920 Speaker 6: And what I think happened is Kamla panicked and said, 569 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 6: oh no, I can't go with the Shapiro, who's left. 570 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 6: Then the guy that was left was Tim Walls. I 571 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 6: don't think he was very carefully vetted, and he certainly 572 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 6: was not at that time very widely known. 573 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, No, I think it shocked all of us, 574 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 3: because you're right, I think we all assumed Josh Shapiro 575 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,479 Speaker 3: was probably the guy, especially to your point. They had 576 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 3: a whole thing set up there in Pennsylvania. Believe me, 577 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,160 Speaker 3: when we heard Tim Walls and then to see them 578 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:48,120 Speaker 3: try to make Tim Walls, like you know, become the guy, it. 579 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 1: Just didn't stick. It didn't land, I don't think with 580 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:50,919 Speaker 1: the American people. 581 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 3: So no, no, that was probably not the best pig 582 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 3: turned out. It was a great pig as far as 583 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 3: we were concerned at the RNC and the Trump campaign. 584 00:26:58,440 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 1: But I digress. 585 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 3: Have there been any political repercussions or investigations into any 586 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 3: of these state officials that we're mentioning that are probably 587 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 3: involved in all of this chaos there in Minnesota. 588 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 6: Well, in April, my organization obtained a tape recording that 589 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 6: had been made by a participant, secretly made by a 590 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 6: participant in a meeting between six or seven feeding our 591 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 6: future people and our Attorney General, Keith Ellison, and they 592 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 6: were complaining that the Department of Education was starting to 593 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 6: get tough. They were talking about cutting off funding and 594 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 6: could Alison intervene to protect them from these people who 595 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 6: are questioning all this money flowing out the door, because 596 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 6: after all, it's just racism, right And so our Attorney 597 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,919 Speaker 6: General Keith Ellison said, yeah, a lot of racists in 598 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 6: these agencies. Sometimes I have to make a phone call 599 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 6: that'll usually take care of it. And he said, Governor 600 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 6: Wallace agrees with me that these stupid piddly things either 601 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:59,919 Speaker 6: Feeding our Future scandal shouldn't be used against East Africa 602 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 6: and business people. And about nine days I think it 603 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 6: was after that, some of these Feeding our Future people 604 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 6: made campaign contributions to Keith Ellison and also his son 605 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 6: who's also in politics. And then a few days after 606 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 6: that the FBI raids happened and the whole scandal blue 607 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 6: sky high. But right up until the last minute, the 608 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 6: Attorney General of our state, far from leading the prosecutions, 609 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:27,479 Speaker 6: far from running the investigations and uncovering and prosecuting the fraud, 610 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 6: was undertaking to help the fraudsters. 611 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,160 Speaker 3: That's probably the least surprising thing I've ever heard, especially 612 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 3: as it relates to Keith Ellison. 613 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 1: But I digress. 614 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 3: There are other attorneys general around the country who likewise 615 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 3: have not really done the job that they were elected 616 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 3: to do. But that's probably the least surprising thing anybody's 617 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:52,719 Speaker 3: ever heard. So do you think, John, that this ultimately 618 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 3: has any sort of an impact in the way people 619 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 3: in Minnesota their thing? Do you think that this shakes 620 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 3: people awake and they say, wait a minute, Maybe we 621 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 3: got to wake up and we got to study for 622 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 3: whom we are voting a little more close, So we've 623 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 3: got to study what the goals are of these people. 624 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 3: Maybe does this push them a little more right in Minnesota? 625 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 3: What do you think the impact of this will be? 626 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 7: Well, it had better have some impact. Right. 627 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 6: If this doesn't, I'm not sure what it would take. 628 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 6: My organization polled this issue for our quarterly magazine in September. 629 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 6: Our polling found that fifty six percent of respondents thought 630 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 6: Governor Walls had not done enough about fraud in the suburbs, 631 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 6: which are the key battleground areas. Sixty one percent thought 632 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 6: he hadn't done enough. Now, after the scandal went national, 633 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 6: that's when it was still a Minnesota news story. 634 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 7: Then it went national. 635 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 6: Within the last month or so, one of the local 636 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 6: TV stations did some polling and the numbers were even worse. 637 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 6: There's a high level of concern and a high level 638 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:54,959 Speaker 6: of criticism directed toward Tim Walls and his administration in 639 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 6: the polling. So we'll find out in November, I guess, 640 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 6: you know, we'll find out whether voters are really to 641 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 6: be serious about this or not. 642 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 3: It is an interesting situation and I think it, you know, 643 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 3: it perfectly encapsulates why people oftentimes don't trust the government, 644 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 3: why people are frustrated with sending, you know, paying taxes 645 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 3: that they say, I don't even know where this goes 646 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 3: because you don't know, and sometimes it ends up in 647 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 3: the hands of fraudsters, to the tune of now billions 648 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 3: of dollars there in the state of Minnesota. It's been 649 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 3: wild stuff to watch. But we appreciate you breaking it 650 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 3: all down for us. John, Thank you so much for 651 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 3: keeping an eye on it. We'd love to come back 652 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 3: to you and get an update maybe sometime in the 653 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 3: near future when there's there's kind of more exposed on 654 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 3: all of this, but let's keep exposing it Let's keep 655 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 3: shining the light in all the dark places because we 656 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 3: know that's how we get the best outcomes. 657 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,719 Speaker 1: So John, thanks so much for joining us. We appreciate it. 658 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 7: Thank you great to be with you all. 659 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 3: Right to everybody at home, as always, make sure you like, subscribe, 660 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 3: share and follow, and we'll see you back here next 661 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 3: time for more of the right view and wall back down. 662 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 4: Baby, May 663 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 2: There ain't knowing any way out