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Speaker 1: All right, Welcome to the Carl Jackson Show. This is

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Speaker 1: your daily dose of objective truth in the world of

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Speaker 1: confusion and lies. We got a lot that I want

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Speaker 1: to talk about this evening, and I'm joined by my guests.

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Speaker 1: You guys know him. He's been on plenty of times before.

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Speaker 1: Attorney David Pollock and also host of The David Pollock Show.

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Speaker 1: You can find him on x Twitter. I like saying

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Speaker 1: twitter at David Pollock USA where he hosts spaces as well,

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Speaker 1: so make sure you check him out there. He has

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Speaker 1: his own show, The David Pollock Show. He's a great

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Speaker 1: political commentator and he's written a fabulous substack and it's funny.

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Speaker 1: He sent me this substack and I read through this

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Speaker 1: substack here, David, and I got to tell you, I

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Speaker 1: was like, pretty much what I think. I almost feel

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Speaker 1: like I could have heardritten this anyway. The title is

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Speaker 1: what is Maga? So I do want to get into

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Speaker 1: this because I think this is going to be extremely

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Speaker 1: important going forward. Obviously we're heading into an election season,

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Speaker 1: midterm election season. I just read a column from Daily

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Speaker 1: Caller earlier today, David that said, we're having the most

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Speaker 1: retirements out of the House that we've had in nen years. Frankly,

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Speaker 1: so I think this column is timely, and I think

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Speaker 1: that Republicans have to be aware of who we are

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Speaker 1: and be able to explain our policy ideas because I'm

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Speaker 1: just going to be frank, President Trump isn't going to

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Speaker 1: be there be there forever. So help us out, David,

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Speaker 1: what is MAG I want to get into each point,

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Speaker 1: but just give us a brief synopsis from the top

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean, look, this was this is the essential question

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Speaker 3: that we have to answer and ask ourselves going into

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty six and twenty twenty eight and beyond. And

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Speaker 3: it doesn't matter who really wins in twenty six or

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Speaker 3: twenty eight. The question becomes how do we get these

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Speaker 3: principles to continue? Because it's easy to think that MAG

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Speaker 3: as just Trump, right, I mean that's what everybody if

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Speaker 3: you just ask a regular person, what's MAG. Oh, that's

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Speaker 3: Trump supporters. MAG is Trump and his supporters. But it's

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Speaker 3: so much more than that. And this is something I've

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Speaker 3: had to explain to people and they just can't understand

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Speaker 3: because when I tell them that I was a Trump

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Speaker 3: supporter back before I was a public person. I'll be like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I support Trump, and they'll be like, how could you

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Speaker 3: support Trump? You seem like a regular guy. You're a lawyer,

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Speaker 3: You're an intelligent person. You're not wearing camo and shopping

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Speaker 3: at what Why I do shop at Walmart? But you

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Speaker 3: know what I mean, Like, there was this old persona

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Speaker 3: be a maga guy Trump supporter. And I said, you guys,

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Speaker 3: really don't you guys who didn't vote for Trump don't

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Speaker 3: really understand why people love Trump and why people vote

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Speaker 3: for Trump. It is not Trump the person. I do

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Speaker 3: think Trump is a great guy, and I like Trump

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Speaker 3: the person. A lot of people object to some of

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Speaker 3: his you know, the actually the way the media portrays him.

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Speaker 3: But a lot of people object to that. But that's

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Speaker 3: not why people support Trump. It's the policies and what

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Speaker 3: the policies are. Those are the policies that really people

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Speaker 3: have been begging for from their politicians for decades. It's

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Speaker 3: the eye idea that the politicians understand the struggles of

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Speaker 3: the middle class, actually understand if Democrats pretend to, but

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Speaker 3: they don't. It's the idea that our borders should be

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Speaker 3: secure is that we should have a functional immigration system,

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Speaker 3: we should have law and order like we should have

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Speaker 3: a strong national defense. We should be energy and dependent,

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Speaker 3: we should build things in the United States. These aren't

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Speaker 3: radical policies, and these aren't necessarily Republican policies.

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Speaker 2: These are American policies.

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Speaker 3: These are American principles and the idea that government has

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Speaker 3: a very limited role in our lives. And this document

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Speaker 3: give them. This idea isn't foreign. This idea is inherent

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Speaker 3: in every American's heart. And it's just been people have

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Speaker 3: don't realize that we actually all are maga. Every American

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Speaker 3: who loves this country wants a chance to wake up

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Speaker 3: whether they vote for Trump or not. So really, what

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Speaker 3: with what is maga. Maga is being American, loving this

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Speaker 2: And they do because what.

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Speaker 3: People are drawn to Trump about the reason why Democrats, Blacks, Hispanics,

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: The reason why all these people voted for Trump wasn't

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Speaker 3: was falling on deaf ears in Washington. That is maga.

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Speaker 3: Maga is America. And if you love this country, you

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Speaker 3: love maga. And now it's just about getting the right

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Speaker 2: And if they don't, they won't win.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So again I'm speaking to my guest, David Pollack.

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Speaker 1: Check out his show that David Pollack Show at David

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Speaker 1: Pollack USA. Find him on x Slash, Twitter David Pollock USA.

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Speaker 1: And we're talking about basically what is maga and this

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Speaker 1: I have this belief that I here's my opinion, and

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Speaker 1: I just want to go off the MAGA movement. I

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Speaker 1: comes to what MAGA is. But I'm just speaking surface

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Speaker 1: level MAGA movement. I believe that the MAGA movement retires

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Speaker 1: with Donald Trump. I'll and I'll tell you. I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you why. I don't think there's going to be anyone

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Speaker 1: second go round. But I'm not not even convinced that

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Speaker 1: a JD. Vance. I know a lot of people are

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Speaker 1: a hype on JD. Vance, and I like JD. Vans.

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Speaker 1: I you know Marco Rubio, I like I like Marco Rubio.

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Speaker 1: They'll never be Trump. Neither one of them will never

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Speaker 1: White House, I should say, excuse me, or the MAGA movement,

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Speaker 1: MAGA movement per se. And this is why I think

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Speaker 1: this article is extremely important too, because I think people

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Speaker 1: do have to understand that MAGA is more than Trump,

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Speaker 1: because if they don't understand that there is gonna Trump

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Speaker 1: but you're gonna have to woo people with policies, and

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Speaker 1: his policies have been effective.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just an excellent point. And you're right. Gosh,

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Speaker 2: hold on, because you make me think so much.

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Speaker 3: There's so much thought that goes into this conversation that

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Speaker 3: I have to stop and go back seven different directions.

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Speaker 3: In articular, I know you know what I'm talking about

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Speaker 3: with respect to MAGA.

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Speaker 2: Dying with Trump.

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Speaker 3: I think the Republican's ability to articulate MAGA dies with

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Speaker 3: Trump because because MAGA.

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Speaker 2: Itself doesn't die. Like I've said, MAGA has been here now.

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Speaker 3: Like I said in my substecs in seventeen seventy six,

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Speaker 3: that American spirit has never died. It just hasn't been

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Speaker 3: I do think the Republican's ability to articulate those principles

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Speaker 3: articulate those principles, yeah, I do think we're in trouble.

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Speaker 2: And I do like jd. Van's But the question is

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 3: Is he a Maga descendant? Or does he understand what

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Speaker 3: You can be in the administration. You can love Trump

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Speaker 3: and you can like his policies, but you understand MAGA

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Speaker 3: and can you articulate that you do? Because the voters

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Speaker 3: have voted for Trump that weren't necessarily Republicans are not

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Speaker 3: looking to vote for a Republican, They're looking to vote

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Speaker 1: I love okay, I I really appreciate what you said

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Speaker 1: about JD. Vance. I think he hit the nail on

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Speaker 1: be the heir apparent. I want a I want to

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Speaker 1: But I'm like, would he be doing half the stuff

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Speaker 1: I mean as senator he was, he was a new senator.

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Speaker 1: agree with, he says, he doesn't necessarily agree with, you know,

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Speaker 1: take this point by point in again, I'm speaking to

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Speaker 1: my guest, David Pollock. Check out his show, The David

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Speaker 1: I'm going through his sub stack and we're going to

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Speaker 1: get to some of the headlines to plenty of headlines

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Speaker 1: I definitely want to talk about those issues as well

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Speaker 1: with David. But you already touched on number one a

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Speaker 1: little more. Where MAGA actually comes from, because you have

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Speaker 1: several points that you outline in this column. So where

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Speaker 1: MAGA comes from, you say, basically, we start with the basics.

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Speaker 1: It is this ideal of America, this American ideal. Go

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I mean essentially where it comes from is

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Speaker 3: rooted in our founding principles. It's that power come from

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Speaker 3: the bottom up, not the top down. And this is

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Speaker 3: where we've deviated from our founding principles for so long,

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Speaker 3: the movement is centered. The movement is centered in just

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Speaker 3: that's how everything that has to do with Trump has

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Speaker 5: So we've had ice in DHS down in Louisiana for

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Speaker 6: Them boys are sitting across the state. No immigrants want

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Speaker 1: Heyday with okay, we can cut it there. You get

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Speaker 3: Look, there's a border crossing, the biggest busiest border crossing

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Speaker 3: It's not about not wanting people to come and work here.

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Speaker 3: So the idea that ICE is going around and spooking

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Speaker 3: I'm happy to see this, and kudos to ICE in

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Speaker 1: No, I absolutely and listen, I absolutely love what they

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Speaker 1: It's absolutely insane. But I just think that people love

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Speaker 1: So I feel like some many Democrats, well Democrats in general,

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Speaker 1: of the things that maga encompasses as well, David, is courage.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think a lot of politicians. What people

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, this has to do, and you talked about

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Speaker 3: had to go on this journey to figure out what

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Speaker 3: MAGA is a people's movement, which is why Republican candidates

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Speaker 3: People are excited about MAGA candidates because they feel connected

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Speaker 3: And so I feel like MAGA really is its own

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Speaker 2: And that's and that's the folks we keep seeing winning

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And frankly, I mean it's let's be honest, there's

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Speaker 1: I make no bones about it. I've said it over

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Speaker 1: and over again. I tend to be a DeSantis fan.

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Speaker 1: I love Governor Ron DeSantis. I don't know. I don't

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Speaker 1: believe that anyone can fill Donald Trump's shoes. But it's

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Speaker 1: why I say I want to see a primary because

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Speaker 1: I look at the person like DeSantis and I'm like,

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Speaker 1: this is a guy that's a fighter. You may not

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Speaker 1: agree with everything, but this is a guy that's a fighter.

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Speaker 1: This is a guy that has gone into government. Is

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Speaker 1: like I want to get stuff done and stuff that

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Speaker 1: has benefited the Ploridians the same way President Trump has

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Speaker 1: done for Americans.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I agree with you completely. I love everything

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Speaker 3: DeSantis did as governor. I still love everything he does

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Speaker 3: as governor. Same thing with Lieutenant Governor Jay Collins. I

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Speaker 3: love everything he's doing as lieutenant governor. The only thing

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Speaker 3: I don't like that DeSantis did and I don't like

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Speaker 3: what Lieutenant Governor Jay Collins is doing is the way

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Speaker 3: they're campaigning against Byron.

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Speaker 2: And it's not that they can't all that. There is

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Speaker 2: no air a parent.

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Speaker 3: There is, there is a primary, but we can't but

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Speaker 3: we can't do it the way we did it when

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Speaker 3: we say we, if DeSantis goes after or if Jay Collins,

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Speaker 3: or if any of these folks who after Byron the

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Speaker 3: way DeSantis went after Trump, it's going to divide us.

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Speaker 2: And that's the key.

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Speaker 3: If DeSantis goes to Washington and stays maga and stays

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Speaker 3: less GOP establishment, I think he'll do very well. It's

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Speaker 3: just a matter of what kind of campaign he would run.

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Speaker 3: We have to stay away from these deviceive GOP politics,

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Speaker 3: and I think we need to be more maga and

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Speaker 3: find things that unite us and talk about policies, not

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Speaker 3: so much personal division, because that's not MAGA, never has been.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we're going to see a brawl. I'll

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Speaker 1: be honest with you. I think that's what we saw

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Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen when Trump cleared the field. And frankly,

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Speaker 1: I don't think that you're going to see an air

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Speaker 1: apparent or I don't think you're going to see someone

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Speaker 1: even take over the movement without a straight up brawl.

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Speaker 1: I just think that's an impossibility. And I'm I, for one,

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Speaker 1: I don't even mind it in Florida, I listen. I

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Speaker 1: do not like coronations. I simply don't even with Byron

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Speaker 1: Donalds in Florida. Anyway, we'll be back with our guests,

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Speaker 1: David Pollock of The David Pollock Show. Stay tuned, all right,

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Speaker 1: Check out his substack as well. Check out his show,

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Speaker 1: The David Pollock Show. All right, David, let's get back

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Speaker 1: to your column here. Why wait, did we go through

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Speaker 1: why defining MEGA matters?

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Speaker 2: No, No, we need to. I touched on too briefly

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Speaker 2: before the break, but it would be good for us

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Speaker 2: talk about.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so let's do that. Why defining MAGA matters? Because

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Speaker 1: I think this is I think you have to. I

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Speaker 1: think this is important. I think a lot of people

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Speaker 1: have tried to define it, but I do think that

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Speaker 1: we're going to have to coals and unite around some meanings.

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Speaker 1: Language is very important as well, So go ahead and

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Speaker 1: break that down for us.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and like you talk, the language is important because

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Speaker 3: we need to understand what it is we belong to

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Speaker 3: and what it is we believe. And if labeling it

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Speaker 3: MAGA is the problem, right, if labeling it MAGA makes

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Speaker 3: people feel like it's too tight to trump, I'm okay

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Speaker 3: with redefining what MAGA is.

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Speaker 2: But it's the set of principles. And this is where

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Speaker 2: you talk about language.

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Speaker 3: Everybody's done such a good job of defining all of

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Speaker 3: these things for us and making it very confusing for

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Speaker 3: people to figure out where they belong. And as a result,

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Speaker 3: and I mentioned this before the break, we stay divided

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Speaker 3: and that allows the establishments to rain because we can

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Speaker 3: never organize to take back the parties. We can never

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Speaker 3: organize to take back Congress. And you have all these

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Speaker 3: institutions Congress, the low approval rating, send it with low

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Speaker 3: approval rating. How can you have all these institutions that

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Speaker 3: people don't agree with, yet the same people keep winning.

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Speaker 3: It is because we don't understand how actually unified we

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Speaker 3: are in opposition to some of these things. And that's

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Speaker 3: where the language and the definition part matters.

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Speaker 1: All right, yeah, and I think you're right. Language matters.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's why the left is so effective. Frankly,

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Speaker 1: even I always say, even when the left is out

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Speaker 1: of office, they know how to win. I mean, these

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Speaker 1: people win even when they lose, they win. I mean,

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Speaker 1: just look at the issue of affordability. They use the

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Speaker 1: language affordability. These people literally destroy I mean, destroyed the

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Speaker 1: economy for four plus years or what have you. And

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Speaker 1: then Trump gets an office tries to correct a lot

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Speaker 1: of their mistakes. I wish he would have cut taxes first,

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Speaker 1: that's just my opinion. But nonetheless, he's put in a

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Speaker 1: lot of work tariffs, trying to rebalance trade, trying to

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Speaker 1: bring in money, bring in revenue, so on, etc. The

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Speaker 1: Big Beautiful Bill hasn't kicked in yet. Gas prices are

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Speaker 1: going down, to egg prices are going down, some grocery

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Speaker 1: prices are going down. Inflation still exists a little bit.

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Speaker 1: The terriffs have helped with that a little bit. So

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Speaker 1: I don't want to ignore people's pain and suffering because

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Speaker 1: there's some prices that are still a bit too high,

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Speaker 1: and he's working on that. Some of the tariffs have

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Speaker 1: impacted some things, even though in the long run, I

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Speaker 1: knew that this would happen cause a little pain in

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Speaker 1: order to bring back a little bit of America manufacturing.

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Speaker 1: But people are growing a little bit impatient. Democrats seize

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Speaker 1: on that they use the word affordability when they're the

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Speaker 1: ones that destroyed the economy. And then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: you see Republicans and you see Trump on defense, and

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Speaker 1: I'm like, guys, what are we doing from the get go?

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Speaker 1: And I feel like this has to happen every single time.

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Speaker 1: All of the issues that the media comes after Trump

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Speaker 1: with whether it's Venezuela and drug boats, whatever it may be,

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Speaker 1: it's the economy stupid. It's always the economy stupid. So

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Speaker 1: with all these other issues, I think people will give

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Speaker 1: grace the borders, you know, ice raids, whatever, people give

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Speaker 1: grace as long as the economy is good but languid,

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Speaker 1: which matters. You have people questioning Trump's ability to turn

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Speaker 1: the economy around. I've heard people tell me, well, look,

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Speaker 1: he's too busy. He's handling this, he's handling this, and

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Speaker 1: I'm like, eh, prices are coming down, and Democrats had

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Speaker 1: no intention of bringing prices down. But language matters, David, well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and the Republicans do such a bad job.

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Speaker 3: And again this goes back to Republicans not actually understanding

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Speaker 3: what they stand for. And this is where the consultant

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Speaker 3: class really screws everything up. And I mentioned that in

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Speaker 3: the substack, because they're being told what to say, right.

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Speaker 3: The politicians are being told, oh, this is what the

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Speaker 3: voters want, this is how you have to sound like

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Speaker 3: a Republican, this is what winners sound like. But nobody

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Speaker 3: tells Trump what to say. And that's why it resonates

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Speaker 3: with people and the reason why the LEFTO so much

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Speaker 3: better is they're so much better articulating their positions that

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Speaker 3: it seems authentic and believable and people can subscribe to it,

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Speaker 3: versus Republicans. They seem detached from these positions, and they're

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Speaker 3: already having discussions of whether or not they're going to

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Speaker 3: use Trump's policy positions in their campaigns, where they're going

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Speaker 3: to distance them sell for Trump. They're saying, the economy

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Speaker 3: is not performing well, so they're gonna blame Trump and

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Speaker 3: try to be the Republicans that the consultants want them

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Speaker 3: to be.

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Speaker 2: And this is the difference between US and the Democrats.

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Speaker 3: The Democrats know exactly what resonates with their voters, and

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Speaker 3: every single one of those politicians knows exactly what to

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Speaker 3: say to get people excited. Republicans can't figure that out.

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Speaker 3: Even though you're right on affordability, on abortion, on gun rights, everything.

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Speaker 3: People agree with Republican policies more than anything else. Republicans

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Speaker 3: just can't articulate it. That is the issue, and it's

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Speaker 3: largely because of the consultant class advising these candidates on

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Speaker 3: what they're supposed to say, rather than letting them than

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Speaker 3: allowing candidates that are actually connected to these communities, who

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Speaker 3: understand the communities.

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Speaker 2: Rise to power. They refuse to allow it. And that

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Speaker 2: is our big issue.

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Speaker 3: It's the gatekeeping from the right that doesn't allow our

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Speaker 3: best candidates to understand the issues to move forward.

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Speaker 2: And that's really our biggest barrier.

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Speaker 1: I think, I do think that's part of it. I

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Speaker 1: also think there's a lot of Republicans that simply don't

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Speaker 1: believe it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.

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Speaker 1: These people get into office and they have no conviction.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you get there and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: your ike dropped, I mean jumps twenty points, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean. Everybody's kissing you butt, telling you how smart,

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Speaker 1: how smart you are, and then you're right. They bring

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Speaker 1: in the consulting class. The consulting classes. Do this, do that,

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Speaker 1: You're brilliant, you sound good, you look good.

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Speaker 5: Just do this.

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Speaker 1: You got a career here for twenty thirty years, and

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Speaker 1: I feel like people just kind of they just lose

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Speaker 1: their way. Frankly, they get out of touch with the people.

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Speaker 1: It's the craziest thing to me. I remember thinking, and

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Speaker 1: it said all the time, how is it that Trump,

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Speaker 1: a billionaire, can be in touch? Seemed to be in

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Speaker 1: touch with regular people. And I'm like, you know what,

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Speaker 1: it's because he's a construction He's a construction guy. He's

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Speaker 1: a real estate guy. You have to deal with everybody,

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Speaker 1: from the plumber to the you know, construction guy, to

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Speaker 1: the long guy irrigation guy. You deal with absolutely everybody

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Speaker 1: when it comes to construction, when it comes to real estate.

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Speaker 1: And the guy just loves to talk, he loves to entertain,

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Speaker 1: so on, etc. But a lot of these convictions that

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Speaker 1: he have are just common sense convictions. And he's an

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Speaker 1: older guy and he's like, Hey, this is who I am,

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Speaker 1: and he doesn't have to stick his finger up in

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Speaker 1: the air. I just feel like there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: Republicans that stick their finger up in the air. They

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Speaker 1: go in there, some of them with good intentions, and

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Speaker 1: it's I mean, I feel like we're watching this with

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Speaker 1: Marjorie Taylor Green. I'm like, how is it? How is it? Then,

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Speaker 1: Marjorie Taylor Green, and listen, I'm not mad. I don't

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Speaker 1: want to spend a lot of time on her. Frankly,

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Speaker 1: I'm so over this nonsense. It's just fatiguing to me.

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Speaker 1: But at the same at the same token, I'm like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: do you have a set of convictions or don't you

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Speaker 1: And I guess not. When you go in, we're seven

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Speaker 1: hundred thousand and now you're worth twenty something million in

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Speaker 1: five years.

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Speaker 3: But well, look there, if you want to become wealthy,

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Speaker 3: trade stocks like who follow the congressman's stock trades?

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Speaker 5: It is what it is.

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Speaker 3: It's a detachment from the voters that put him there.

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Speaker 3: And you're right, Trump is a billionaire somehow can connect

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Speaker 3: with people because he gets it, and we need more

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Speaker 3: people who get it. And the problem is, Carl And

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Speaker 3: this last thing I'll say on this is the fact

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Speaker 3: that so many people want Trump's winning recipe, but they

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Speaker 3: don't understand what it actually the recipe is. They just

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Speaker 3: emulate this version of Trump that's been created in the media,

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Speaker 3: and they think that by bullying people and saying nasty

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Speaker 3: things that makes you like Trump, and you see it,

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Speaker 3: they're like and they're like, you are so missing it.

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Speaker 3: You don't understand what it is about Trump. People vote

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Speaker 3: for Trump in spite of those things, not because of

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Speaker 3: those things. And really what it has to do with

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Speaker 3: the fact that he does he just gets it. You know,

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Speaker 3: He's connected to people, and he does it because you're right,

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Speaker 3: he is charismatic. But at the same time, you're right,

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Speaker 3: he's done it.

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Speaker 2: He gets it. He sits down with people, he understands

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Speaker 2: what they're going through. He means it.

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Speaker 3: He's honest and authentic, and we need more guys like that.

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Speaker 3: And so whoever that person is to pass, you know,

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Speaker 3: whoever it is, I look, I would like Marco Rubio.

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Speaker 2: I do like JD.

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Speaker 3: Van's I think Marko Ruby is a very honest guy.

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Speaker 3: I think he resonates with people. You know, his personality

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Speaker 3: is not like Trump. He's not as charismatic, but I

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Speaker 3: think he's a super nice guy and he's very effective.

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Speaker 2: But we'll see. I think Rondess Angeles will do well.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, Carl.

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Speaker 3: At the end of the day, it's whoever is going

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Speaker 3: to be able to convince people that they understand their problems,

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Speaker 3: and people who have been very wealthy and get dinner

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Speaker 3: to Capitol Hill Club with Democrats aren't gonna be able

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Speaker 3: to do that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, I agree with you, and and I'm not

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Speaker 1: picking any one guy now, but I do want to

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Speaker 1: see some guys in that fight. I know JD. Vance

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Speaker 1: will be in there. I suspect Marco Rubio will be

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Speaker 1: in there. I suspect the Santis. I don't know, but

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Speaker 1: I suspect the Santis. Will. I want to see the

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Speaker 1: heavy hitters in there, because I think the best ideas

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Speaker 1: will rise to the top. All right, let me jump

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Speaker 1: to ilhan Omar your homegirl there, David.

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Speaker 7: My homegirl. Yeah, so let's let's start. Let's start with

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Speaker 7: cut number two if we have time here, Gabe, and

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Speaker 7: then I may Is that cut that long? Okay, let's

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Speaker 7: let's let's go with cut number two. If I have

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Speaker 7: to stop it, I will.

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Speaker 8: I want to ask you something else that the architect

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Speaker 8: of the president's immigration policy, Stephen Miller, said on Thanksgiving Day,

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Speaker 8: he posted, no magic transformation occurs when failed states cross

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Speaker 8: borders at scale, migrants and their descendants recreate the conditions

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Speaker 8: and terrors of their broken homelands. What do you make

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Speaker 8: of this argument of failure to assimilate and sort of

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Speaker 8: ruining America? How do you understand this?

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Speaker 4: I mean, when I think about Stephen Miller and his

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Speaker 4: white soparatist rhetoric, it reminds me, Yes, it reminds me

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Speaker 4: of the way the Nazis described Jewish people in Germany.

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Speaker 4: And you know, as we know, there have been many

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Speaker 4: immigrants who've tried to come to the United States who've

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Speaker 4: turned back, you know, one of them being Jewish immigrants.

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Speaker 4: We know the way that people were described who were

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Speaker 4: coming from Ireland, Irish immigrants. We know the way in

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Speaker 4: which people were described back then when they were Italian immigrants.

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Speaker 4: And to me, you know, we're yes, of course, Nicklie Somali.

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Speaker 4: We are in this country as Americans, we are citizens,

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Speaker 4: we are productive part of this nation, and we will

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Speaker 4: continue to be.

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Speaker 8: Congress Iman Omar, thank you for your time today.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I don't have enough time to get a full responsive.

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Speaker 1: You can stick with me for one more segment here, David,

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Speaker 1: because I do want you to respond to this. I

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Speaker 1: think it is hilarious that she says Jewish. Stephen Miller

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Speaker 1: is talking like a zi And what's even more hilarious

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Speaker 1: and said is the fact that she knows her voters

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Speaker 1: will buy into it. And of course the DNC media,

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Speaker 1: the state run media that we saw right there. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: you're listening to the Carl Jackson Show, We'll be back

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Speaker 1: in a few all right, welcome back again. I'm joined

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Speaker 1: with my guest David Pollock The David Pollock Show. You

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Speaker 1: can find them on X. Twitter is what I like

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Speaker 1: to call it at David Pollock USA. Twitter just has

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Speaker 1: a better ring. I love you on but just Twitter.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry it had it had a better ring to it. Anyway.

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Speaker 1: Let me get your reaction, uh, David, if you recall

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Speaker 1: we had just watched this video of of Ilhan Omar

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Speaker 1: representative talking to saying, quote, when I think about Stephen

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Speaker 1: Miller and his white supremacist rhetoric, it reminds me of

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Speaker 1: the way Nazis described Jewish people in Germany. I'm not

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Speaker 1: sure if she knows Stephen Miller is Jewish or not.

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Speaker 3: I don't think they care. They call everybody, no, everybody Jish.

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Speaker 3: They don't care if he's Jewish or not. He's still

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Speaker 3: a Nazi.

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Speaker 2: We're all just Nazis. They don't know. I mean, they

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Speaker 2: just say it, right, They just use these terms.

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Speaker 3: And and for somebody like her to just to to

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Speaker 3: make comparisons to Nazis and even act like she understands

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Speaker 3: what happened to the Jewish people in World War Two

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Speaker 3: and there's no there's no some Mali holocaust in the

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Speaker 3: United States. Don't draw parallels. It is so offensive when

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Speaker 3: people like her draw parallels to Nazi Germany and the Holocaust,

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Speaker 3: and it's so ridiculous. But whatever, that doesn't surprise me.

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Speaker 3: She says things like that all the time. But to

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Speaker 3: the point of what Steven Miller was talking about, he's right, right,

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Speaker 3: you look at these look at all the fraud, look

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Speaker 3: at all the terrorism and everything that's coming out of

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Speaker 3: these especially that community, and what they're getting away with

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Speaker 3: over there. They're not coming here for a better life.

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Speaker 3: They're coming here to take advantage of the life that

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Speaker 3: we give them. And more so than that, when she

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Speaker 3: pretends that somehow there are these people are citizens and

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Speaker 3: loyal to America, she said herself that her allegiances to Somalia,

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Speaker 3: not the United States. So there is no assimilation there,

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Speaker 3: there is no love for America. These are not the

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Speaker 3: same type of immigrants that we had coming to the

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Speaker 3: Statue of Liberty and building New York City. These are

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Speaker 3: people who are here to take advantage of whatever they

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Speaker 3: can take, and then when they're done taken that they'll

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Speaker 3: go somewhere else and take advantage of their too. These people,

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Speaker 3: and I'm not speaking about all Somali people, sure, I'm

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Speaker 3: speaking about the ones that are committing the fraud, the

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Speaker 3: ones that are committing the crime, the ones that are here.

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Speaker 2: Illegally and living in that community.

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Speaker 3: And Elan Omoar just has such a flippant attitude towards

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Speaker 3: the United States, towards President Trump, towards our democracy. And

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Speaker 3: then she comes from a country, as Trump points out,

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Speaker 3: that has no really solid form of government that's wrought

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Speaker 3: with corruption. Yet she comes here and acts like Stephen

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Speaker 3: Miller's a Nazi. This is the problem. If everything is

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Speaker 3: so great where you come from, and America is so bad,

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Speaker 3: then go back.

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Speaker 1: It's amazing to me because I really believe the left

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Speaker 1: believes people like her. She's an ingrad is what she is.

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Speaker 1: I almost believe that they believe, Listen, we can have

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Speaker 1: all the power that we want inside of the United States.

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Speaker 1: We can have our policies, and it'll still be like

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Speaker 1: the United States in the sense it'll still be this

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Speaker 1: land of opportunity. It'll just be this land of opportunity

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Speaker 1: for us. They don't realize that their policies would totally

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Speaker 1: destroy America as it exists today. I mean, it's absolutely insane.

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Speaker 1: I think that New York City I'm so glad that

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Speaker 1: my wife and I visited last year for the first time,

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Speaker 1: probably the last time. I thought it was a neat experience.

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Speaker 1: I mean, dirty as all get out, but I could

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Speaker 1: see where the city used to be. You know, Coming

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Speaker 1: from a guy that grew up in Los Angeles, I

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Speaker 1: happen to like big cities as long as they're clean.

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Speaker 1: They destroyed Los Angeles, they destroyed New York City. I

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Speaker 1: think New York City is gonna be even worse by

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Speaker 1: the time Man Danny has done with it. But this

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Speaker 1: is what the left does. But this fraud stuff is insane,

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Speaker 1: and I agree with it. Listen, there's some there's some

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Speaker 1: Somali's I'm sure it came before the Civil war era

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Speaker 1: in Somalia and perhaps some even after that that were

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Speaker 1: allowed to come here as refugees, just like just like

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Speaker 1: ilhan Omar that aren't necessarily in grates. But she definitely is,

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Speaker 1: and there's no doubt about it. The fraud is rampant,

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Speaker 1: and it's in her district. You have people that turned

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Speaker 1: a blind eye, like Governor Tim Wallas allegedly because he

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Speaker 1: was concerned about being called a racist or what have you.

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Speaker 1: You have other people like Keith Ellison, the ag out there.

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Speaker 1: All of these people knew exactly what were going on,

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Speaker 1: in my opinion, and they likely turned a blind eye,

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Speaker 1: or who knows if they were complicit. I hope every

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Speaker 1: single one of them are invested, gated thoroughly, because you're

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Speaker 1: talking about spans. It went from possibly one billion now

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Speaker 1: I'm here in rumors of nearly eight billion dollars possibly

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Speaker 1: possibly in welfare fraud and theft. And we're talking about,

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Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, this isn't happening all over Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: We're talking about her district.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, and look, that's what do you expect, I mean,

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Speaker 3: and who's leading the district and that's where it's at.

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Speaker 2: And I think with Tim Walls, I don't know if

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Speaker 2: it's a blind eye.

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Speaker 3: I think, honestly, the Democrats have adopted this philosophy that

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Speaker 3: America is a is an evil place and they were redish. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and they really want people who don't like America to

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Speaker 3: be platformed. You saw this in the Macy's Day parade.

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Speaker 3: I had posted about this on TikTok. It did very well.

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Speaker 3: It's like they refuse to showcase anything that celebrates any

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Speaker 3: traditionally American culture, and they showcase everything else and it's

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Speaker 3: done intentionally because everything is okay except for American culture.

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Speaker 3: And Tim Walls is a guilty Democrat. He's a liberal,

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Speaker 3: probably a communist who just who feels guilty for being American.

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Speaker 3: He doesn't like this country. And of course he's going

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Speaker 3: to allow elon Omar to do whatever she wants because

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Speaker 3: she as long as she's saying something negative about the

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Speaker 3: ruling class in America, that means she's on his good side.

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Speaker 3: And this is a philosophy adopted by all Democrats. They

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Speaker 3: hate America. And I don't not all Democrats, those Democrats

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Speaker 3: who hate America let me be specific, but this whole

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Speaker 3: idea that this country, like Michelle Obama used to say

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Speaker 3: that she wasn't proud of this country, that this country

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Speaker 3: wasn't ever great, but things like that, I mean, how

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Speaker 3: can you even be in public office and not think

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Speaker 3: that this country is great? How can you be in

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Speaker 3: an immigrant community when you fled a country because of

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Speaker 3: civil war and famine could come to a country and

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Speaker 3: still think it's not great?

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Speaker 2: And and like, I just don't understand that mentality.

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Speaker 1: I do, I'll tell you, Yeah, I'll tell you why,

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Speaker 1: because because they are, frankly, the privileged to ones, and

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Speaker 1: they feel guilty that they're not down in the dirt

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Speaker 1: with people that have to struggle, and so they have

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Speaker 1: to become a part of that struggle. Elan Omar, I

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Speaker 1: mean it sounds like she pretty much got a free ride.

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Speaker 1: She's gone to college, she's a congresswoman. You look at

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Speaker 1: Michelle Obama trying to play the victim. She came from

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Speaker 1: a wealthy family for the most part. I mean, she

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Speaker 1: became an attorney making over three hundred thousand dollars back

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Speaker 1: in the day. It's not like they were she and

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Speaker 1: she and Barack Obama were living in poverty. And then

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Speaker 1: she continues to climb. How they I mean, they're worth

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Speaker 1: hundreds of millions of dollars or about one hundred million

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Speaker 1: dollars or whatever it is. They're worth a buttload of

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Speaker 1: money for mansions and some of the most expensive areas

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Speaker 1: in the entire world. Frankly, and these people have all

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Speaker 1: of this money, they have all of this privilege. I

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Speaker 1: think it's that they feel guilty for the privilege that

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Speaker 1: they have, if you will, and there's also no doubt

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Speaker 1: in my mind that they're elites. They're edumacated, if you will,

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Speaker 1: in these higher learning institutions that have brainwashed these people

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Speaker 1: into hating America. And I think the combination of feeling

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Speaker 1: the guilt that I suspect they feel. They may not

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Speaker 1: even understand it or recognize it, but I do believe

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Speaker 1: that I do believe that there's a lot of black people.

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Speaker 1: I'm just shooting straight. You become that wealthy, you become

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Speaker 1: that out of touch, you still want to be down

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Speaker 1: with the struggle, so you buy into all of this

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Speaker 1: nonsense that they teach you in academia because you want

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Speaker 1: to be able to virtue signal. You want to feel moral,

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Speaker 1: and that gives them an opportunity to feel moral. That

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Speaker 1: gives them an opportunity to connect with their people, as

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Speaker 1: opposed to like you see how Trump connects with different voters,

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Speaker 1: different groups. No, this gives them an opportunity to connect

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Speaker 1: with their people, beat white people over the head with

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Speaker 1: the cudgel, and it makes them feel good. So I

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Speaker 1: do really believe it's the combination of their privilege. They've

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Speaker 1: got a lot of money, and they've been brainwashing academia,

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Speaker 1: And I think I am so glad she did not

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Speaker 1: run for office, that lady. It's clear to me. It's

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Speaker 1: clear to me why Baraco Alabama was soap poisonous to

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Speaker 1: this country. In my opinion, one reason is because she

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Speaker 1: had his back and listening to her after you know, recently,

883
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Speaker 1: I'm like, good lord, no wonder, no wonder, that guy

884
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Speaker 1: was a disaster having her in his ear.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I mean, you imagine having the first lady

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Speaker 3: of the United States that the hates the United States.

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Speaker 3: And the funny thing about what you mentioned is this privilege,

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00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 3: this privilege, and but yet you don't appreciate the country

889
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Speaker 3: that gave you that privilege. And the funny thing about

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Speaker 3: the elites and the Democrat Party is the fact that

891
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:34,359
Speaker 3: they tell you a diversity is their strength. They tell

892
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Speaker 3: you about all these programs that that we should have

893
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Speaker 3: and all these you know, all these everything, But yet

894
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Speaker 3: they live in communities that are insulated from their policies.

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Speaker 3: They live in camer communities that are not diverse. Go

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Speaker 3: to like the nicest, richest areas of ninety eight percent

897
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Speaker 3: Democrat Virginia, and then they all go to country clubs

898
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Speaker 3: where there's there's not much diversity at all.

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Speaker 2: Except maybe on the weight staff.

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Speaker 3: And so these people act like they are all, you know, elite,

901
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Speaker 3: but they feel so good about all the work they're doing,

902
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 3: yet they refuse to live the lives that they tell

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Speaker 3: everyone else they should live. The most diverse, accepting, welcoming

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Speaker 3: communities are the conservative.

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Speaker 2: Communities where people all work for a living. They'll work together.

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Speaker 3: They don't look ato each other as being part of

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Speaker 3: a racial group or a gender or sexual orientation.

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Speaker 2: They're just people.

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Speaker 3: The only places you see these artificial divisions and everybody

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Speaker 3: being broken down by class and race is in leftist,

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Speaker 3: elitist communities. And it's the craziest thing for what you mentioned,

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Speaker 3: because I think you're exactly right. It is a sense

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Speaker 3: of guilt. But they don't want to live in the

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Speaker 3: communities that they think are so great, which I don't understand.

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Speaker 2: But I don't know. I guess this is just what

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Speaker 2: we get to deal with.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, well, honestly, I think that as long

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Speaker 1: as you have people like you and I out here

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Speaker 1: making the arguments perhaps we'll make, we'll wake more people up. Man,

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Speaker 1: there's so much more I want it to Oh, just

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Speaker 1: real quick, you know what, we only have about thirty

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Speaker 1: seconds you've got ice rates. Give us your take on

923
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Speaker 1: those real quick. Some people and I love them, frankly

924
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Speaker 1: understand some people might be upset. I think they're a necessity.

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Speaker 3: Look, Joe Biden, let tens of millions of people in

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Speaker 3: this country. We don't know who they are. We saw

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Speaker 3: a terrorist attack in Washington, d C. Over the Thanksgiving break.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we don't know who these people are. We

929
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Speaker 3: don't know what they're planning. This is a national emergency. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 3: this is the environment that Democrats created, and now we

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Speaker 3: have to have policies that maybe they think are unkind

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Speaker 3: for removal, but it's absolutely necessary due to the crisis

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Speaker 3: that the Democrats created. We're freeing children. You mentioned it,

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Speaker 3: Tom Holman. I think thirty thirty kids, right, So this

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Speaker 3: is a good thing. I don't see any bad anything

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Speaker 3: about it.

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Speaker 1: All right, man, we gotta have them back. We didn't

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Speaker 1: even get to Venezuela. All right, until next time, guys,

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Speaker 1: don't grow where you're doing. Good, God bless you.