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Speaker 1: Good morning, good afternoon, good evening, and good night. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the Erin Mullin Show. Great to have your company.

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Speaker 1: As always. I hope you've had okay weekends. I know

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Speaker 1: there's a lot going on in the world, not all

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Speaker 1: of it overly positive. This show, though, is jam packed,

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Speaker 1: and whilst the content is not particularly positive because we're

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Speaker 1: covering war, I promise it will make you feel good.

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Speaker 1: It will make you feel informed, it will make you

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Speaker 1: feel emboldened, it will encourage you that you are on

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Speaker 1: the right side of history.

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Speaker 2: What's coming up?

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Speaker 1: Rabbi will Licky, the man they called Charlie Kirk's Rabbi.

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Speaker 1: He exposes who has been leaking to Candice Owens this

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Speaker 1: entire time plus ballistic missiles. Can you believe the Islamic

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Speaker 1: regime have lied about how far they can go?

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Speaker 2: Yes? I can. It's been a real wake up.

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Speaker 1: Call for those who thought, oh gee, no, they're honest,

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Speaker 1: really good people, just telling the truth.

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Speaker 2: No they ain't.

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Speaker 1: So let's get stuck in plenty to get through before

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Speaker 1: we get to our interview, and let's start on that

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Speaker 1: this Islamic regime in this revelation regarding how far these

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Speaker 1: missiles can travel for those who thought that this regime

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Speaker 1: was Pollyanna like you know, truth tellers, innocent victims of

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Speaker 1: these war mongering Americans in israelis well, they were given

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Speaker 1: a rude shock over the weekend when a missile was

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Speaker 1: launched at a target four thousand kilometers away, twice the

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Speaker 1: distance this satanic regime have said publicly that they were

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Speaker 1: capable of.

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Speaker 3: Have a look, mister Rachia, if I may, we heard

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Speaker 3: from the present first in his State of the Union

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Speaker 3: address that took place on Tuesday, and again this morning

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Speaker 3: and recorded remarks that I'm sure you've heard the present set,

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Speaker 3: among other things, that Iran has been building missiles that,

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Speaker 3: in his words, could soon reach.

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Speaker 4: The American homeland.

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Speaker 3: So, as it relates to Iran's ballistic missile capabilities, does

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Speaker 3: Iran now have the capability to reach the US homeland?

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Speaker 3: How far removed is it from that capability?

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Speaker 5: No, no, we don't have those that capability. We have

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Speaker 5: intentionally kept the range of our missiles below two thousand kilometers,

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Speaker 5: so we don't have that capability. And we don't want

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Speaker 5: to do that because we don't have any hostility against

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Speaker 5: you know, the United States people, and and and you

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Speaker 5: know or Europeans or whatsoever. We have built that capability

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Speaker 5: in order to defend ourselves against our enemies.

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Speaker 1: So all of a sudden, we see Europe is just

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Speaker 1: a little bit less adversarial regarding providing assistance to this

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Speaker 1: war if it even though its Trump said a week

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Speaker 1: or so ago, it's too late, we don't need you anymore.

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Speaker 1: The UK realizing they are on the brink of being reached,

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Speaker 1: this should change everything. Everything, not for the moose of

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Speaker 1: us who already understood the threat, because we've got eyes is,

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Speaker 1: we can read, we've got a brain, we can comprehend.

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Speaker 1: We're not completely we haven't sold our souls to the devil.

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Speaker 1: But for those who were in denial or who are

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Speaker 1: being pulled by other factors that don't serve the best

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Speaker 1: interest of their nation, this should change everything. The legitimacy

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Speaker 1: of the threat now has been proven. And the point

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Speaker 1: I would make is, if this regime is willing to

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Speaker 1: lie about how far ballistic missiles can go, why would

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Speaker 1: they not also be lying about their intention when it

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Speaker 1: comes to nuclear weapons, or how far along they actually are.

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Speaker 1: We've seen Joe can't do the tour circuit of clowns

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Speaker 1: with all the podcasters, the Tucker Carson's, Meghan Kelly's Candorzoans,

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Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera.

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Speaker 2: And he's saying, oh, no, the Supreme Leader had a fatwah.

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Speaker 6: I mean, the Orians have had a religious ruling of

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Speaker 6: fatua against actually developing a nuclear weapons since two thousand

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Speaker 6: and four. That's been in place since two thousand and four.

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Speaker 6: That's available in the public sphere. Then, also, we had

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Speaker 6: no intelligence to indicate that that far to what was

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Speaker 6: being disobeyed or it was on the cusp of being lifted.

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Speaker 2: They were not wanting to make nuclear weapons.

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Speaker 1: Well, sorry, a, why the hell on earth would you

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Speaker 1: said their missiles could not travel further than two thousand kilometers.

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Speaker 7: Our long range ballistic missile which is two thousand kilometers,

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Speaker 7: And I mentioned that two thousand kilometers for now. They

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Speaker 4: After all, it has its costs and there's a reason

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Speaker 2: Not true.

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Speaker 1: And also when you're looking at the caliber of people

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Speaker 1: Terrorists who hang protesters, who shoot them dead in the street,

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Speaker 1: are not renowned for being truth tellers. You don't need

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Speaker 1: to be a nuclear physicist to realize that these satanic murderers,

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Speaker 1: as well as slaughtering innocent people, lie, lie. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if you also saw Joe Canton's interview with Megan Kelly,

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Speaker 1: in particular when he was being asked about leaking. And

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Speaker 1: we know that the FBI is investigating these alleged leaks.

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Speaker 1: His saying no and denying that was as weak as anything.

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Speaker 8: I have seen someone in government and some online or

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Speaker 8: speculating that, well, we know it was leaked to Candace

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Speaker 8: Owens and she reported on it and the summer speculating

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Speaker 8: that you were the leaker.

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Speaker 2: So did you leak that document to Candace?

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Speaker 9: No?

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Speaker 2: Did you leak it all to the media?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 8: And do you have you watched as other government employees

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Speaker 8: have leaked multiple documents and information with absolutely no threat

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Speaker 8: of prosecution.

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Speaker 2: I have the same access to the media that you do,

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Speaker 2: so I see it happening.

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Speaker 6: I don't know specifics of anyone, anyone specifically leaking themselves.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, as weak as anything.

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Speaker 1: And also again I mentioned it earlier, his attempt to say,

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Speaker 1: oh no, that there was a path while the Supreme

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Speaker 1: Leader said no nuclear weapons. Come on, if that's what

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Speaker 1: you are reliant upon, if that is the hill, you're

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Speaker 1: willing to die, and you need to find a new hill,

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Speaker 1: a bigger hill, a stronger hill, a less demonic hill.

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Speaker 2: It's ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: The basis of who they are is to do anything

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Speaker 1: that is required to dominate, to take over, to kill,

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Speaker 1: So referencing that.

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Speaker 2: Is just insane. It's insane.

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Speaker 1: Now I want to show you a reaction that I

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Speaker 1: Arad in Israel.

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Speaker 2: If you haven't seen it, take a look right now.

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Speaker 1: In Israel, they're searching under rubble for children after the

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Speaker 1: Islamic regime of Iran sent a ballistic missile directly towards

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Speaker 1: a residential apartment complex. Can we acknowledge the following is

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Speaker 1: true all evidence based.

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Speaker 2: This regime kills tens of thousands of its own people.

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Speaker 1: It's done that already this year, including hanging young men

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Speaker 1: for protesting surprise. They didn't shoot them point blank in

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Speaker 1: the street. That's their normal modus operande. They chant death

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Speaker 1: to America, death to Israel, death to the West. They

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Speaker 1: have the blood of Americans, Europeans, British, Australian and many

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Speaker 1: others on their hands. Their ballistic missile range is double

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Speaker 1: what they said publicly it was, and all the evidence

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Speaker 1: points towards nuclear capability imminently. So why do we demonize Israel?

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Speaker 1: Why when right now they are searching for their children

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Speaker 1: under rubble. American citizens are not dying right now. British

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Speaker 1: citizens are not dying. Israeli citizens knew the second this

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Speaker 1: war broke out that it would be them who would

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Speaker 1: pay with their lives, and not one that I have

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Speaker 1: seen thus far has said We're not willing to make

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Speaker 1: that sacrifice, not just for our own people, for our

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Speaker 1: have peace. Instead of demonizing them, we should be thanking them,

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Speaker 1: thanking them for being at the coal face, for running

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Speaker 1: to bombshelters every two seconds, for losing their lives for

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Speaker 1: the rest of us to have a future. Without this threat,

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Speaker 1: without an evil Islamic jihadi terrorist organization with the capability

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Speaker 1: and to annihilate. Thank you, Israeli's thank you. You knew

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Speaker 1: that you would be the hardest hit the second this

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Speaker 1: broke out, but you have bravely, bravely absorbed that threat.

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Speaker 2: Your willingness to do it is unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: It is so courageous, and it is not just on

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Speaker 1: behalf of yourselves, it is on behalf of all of us.

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Speaker 2: So thank you.

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Speaker 1: Now we know that incidents can also occur everywhere around

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Speaker 1: the world because we have been infiltrated. This ideology, this

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Speaker 1: Islamic extremism that wants to destroy everything the West holds

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Speaker 1: deer is already in our homes, it's in our cities,

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Speaker 1: it's online, it's everywhere. What we've seen all over the

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Speaker 1: Western world, these big gatherings of prayer, and Muslims themselves

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Speaker 1: have come out and said, this is not what our

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Speaker 1: to do. This is not what happens in Muslim majority countries,

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Speaker 1: and we've seen, particularly in the UK, this clamp down

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Speaker 1: with it. Conservative minister in the UK coming out so

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Speaker 1: and this campaign to cancel him, to have him sacked

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Speaker 1: is we are not okay with that. It doesn't feel right,

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Speaker 1: it's not who we are. And again, freedom of speech,

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Speaker 1: freedom of expression, freedom to worship.

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Speaker 2: Whoever you like. Absolutely, but what is occurring is not that.

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Speaker 1: It is an attempt to dominate, an attempt to intimidate,

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Speaker 1: an attempt to take over. Again, I tell you I

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Speaker 1: lived in Indonesia, the world's largest Islamic nation, as a child,

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Speaker 1: on two different occasions, two periods during the nineteen nineties,

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Speaker 1: and I'll always remember Mum and Dad were adamant to us,

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Speaker 1: we must respect the country we are going to the

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Speaker 1: culture of the religion. When we are in public anywhere,

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Speaker 1: we must dress in a way that is respectful, that

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Speaker 1: We don't use a certain hand because that is considered

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Speaker 1: dirty with dogs. Different things that we did to show

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Speaker 1: or tried to push it onto them.

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Speaker 2: We were still allowed to have our religious.

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Speaker 1: have created an environment or an occasion where any Muslim would.

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Speaker 2: Have felt intimidated by us. No, it just wasn't.

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Speaker 9: No.

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Speaker 1: We had respect for their nation, their culture, their beliefs,

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Speaker 1: their religion. We kept ours, but we did not dominate.

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Speaker 1: And this is what is occurring here. It's a complete opposite.

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Speaker 1: Have a listened to a couple of Muslim women who

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Speaker 1: have gone on UK television off the back of these

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Speaker 1: these mass gathering moments.

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Speaker 2: Have a listened to what they say.

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Speaker 10: And let me say this, I speak as someone who

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Speaker 10: is a Muslim, practicing Muslim. I am one hundred percent

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Speaker 10: against politicizing Islam, and this publicly pray We've been for

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Speaker 10: a long time, way before for the last sixteen years

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Speaker 10: calling for ban because this is politicizing Islam and is

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Speaker 10: actually against the teaching of Islam.

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Speaker 2: I don't see any Muslim.

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Speaker 10: Countries that people come into the streets praying. It is

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Speaker 10: Even at the time of Prophet Mamad existed, he either

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Speaker 2: And kiss Darma who I tell you what, Whimsy award

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Speaker 1: Weakest most dangerous, appalling world leader in more than a

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Speaker 4: The fact that he's.

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Speaker 1: Now, I would say to the UK Prime Minister maybe

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Speaker 1: But there's a group that I would rather be hated

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Speaker 4: The problem?

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Speaker 16: I look there. I've seen some of those reports and

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Speaker 1: Heckled seriously, and then afterwards our Prime Minister saying no, no,

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Speaker 1: Even more appeasement off the back of being treated appallingly.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't work. Weakness doesn't work. Appeasement doesn't work.

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Speaker 2: Burying your head in the sand does not work. Never does.

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Speaker 1: Now you can look at people who are extreme on

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Speaker 2: Colonel Richard Kemp.

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Speaker 14: Watch government now or no prospective government of the UK

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Speaker 2: It's got to happen because no one else will do

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Speaker 1: I'm seeing enough enough of the waking up now to

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Speaker 2: Never to go against their leader.

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Speaker 1: Because, in wonderful, surprising, absolutely unheard of news, the party

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Speaker 2: Now, listen, this is how it works over there. This

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Speaker 2: Go have your digestion. He didn't jug yourself against it?

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Speaker 1: I mean, you see these idiotic democrat douchebags at their

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Speaker 2: Go over there and no kings.

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Speaker 1: In fact, you can do the goat thing, you can sing,

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Speaker 2: Go do it someone where there's actually a dictator, actually

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Speaker 1: generally kind, but they were beyond blown away by how

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Speaker 1: good you are.

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Speaker 2: So very very grateful, Thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about Joe Kent to start with big headlines

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Speaker 1: regarding his resignation and of course the circuit of clowns

444
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Speaker 1: that he has partaken in since.

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Speaker 4: So so let.

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Speaker 9: Me tell you something about Joe Kent that probably no

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Speaker 9: one listening here knows.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So, if anyone's been following.

449
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:56,879
Speaker 9: The plot about Charlie Kirk and Candice Owens and the

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Speaker 9: famous text messages where Charlie was having a day where

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Speaker 9: he was very upset at his Jewish donor who pulled out,

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Speaker 9: and that famous screenshot that Candace made so much of.

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Speaker 4: So here's something I'm kind of revealing this for the

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Speaker 4: first time.

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Speaker 6: Erin.

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Speaker 9: You know that I was in that chat group, right,

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Speaker 9: We talked about that last time. The members of that

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Speaker 9: chat group have known for quite some time that the

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Speaker 9: way that those screenshots got.

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Speaker 4: To Candace is via Joe Kent.

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Speaker 9: You see what this has never been made public before,

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Speaker 9: Aaron right now on your show, this is I'm saying this.

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Speaker 9: So let me explain Andrew Colvitt, who's you know. It

464
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Speaker 9: was Charlie's number two guy who now hosts the show.

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Speaker 9: Andrew was in the chat group as well. He was

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Speaker 9: one of the nine people in the group, and he

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Speaker 9: admitted at first be perfectly honest. At first he was

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Speaker 9: denying it. We didn't know how Candace got them. But

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Speaker 9: then he admitted on the air on his show that

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Speaker 9: he had given these text messages. And when I say

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Speaker 9: text messages, screenshot, there were two screen shots that he gave.

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Speaker 9: One was that famous screenshot of that text exchange and

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Speaker 9: the other was a screenshot with the names of everyone

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Speaker 9: in that chet group. Okay, and he gave them two.

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Speaker 9: He said that on the show that he gave them

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Speaker 9: to someone in the government. He told us that that

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Speaker 9: he gave them to someone in the government and his

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Speaker 9: rationale for it, which I.

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Speaker 4: Think is foolish.

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Speaker 9: Although I'm not gonna I'm not going to go too

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Speaker 9: hard against Andrew here. I like Andrew his person, We're friendly,

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Speaker 9: and with Charlie just having been killed, I'm sure there

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Speaker 9: was a lot going on, and I know that he

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Speaker 9: regrets doing this, but his rationale was he didn't want

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Speaker 9: to leave any stone unturned. And he was asked about

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Speaker 9: this by someone in the government, and that he gave

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Speaker 9: those screenshots.

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Speaker 4: To someone in government.

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Speaker 9: And of course the response of the people in the

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Speaker 9: chat group was, you don't have a right to do that.

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Speaker 9: This is a private chat group. There was no warrant,

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Speaker 9: it doesn't work that way. But nevertheless he did it

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Speaker 9: and the next thing we know, Candace Owens is talking

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Speaker 9: about it.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 9: Candace has said publicly that she had been in touch

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Speaker 9: with Andrew after Charlie's assassination, that they had been talking.

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Speaker 9: But we knew that even if Andrew might maybe in

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Speaker 9: some alternate you know, if Andrew had messed up and

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Speaker 9: given her the text message with her name in it

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Speaker 9: where Charlie was saying he might invite her back to

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Speaker 9: Amfest because he was upset at this Jewish donor, that

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Speaker 9: could be possible that he would do that, although unlikely

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Speaker 9: because TPUSA had broken with Candace, and Andrew knows who

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Speaker 9: Candace is and.

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Speaker 4: What she might do with that, so it was doubtful.

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Speaker 9: But what really made us feel that Andrew was not

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Speaker 9: the one to give the text messages, was that second screenshot.

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Speaker 9: There's no way even if he had shared that first

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Speaker 9: screen shot that he would have revealed to Candace Owens

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Speaker 9: the names of all nine people in the group. It

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Speaker 9: made no sense. So we didn't know how it got

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Speaker 9: to her. And then we started putting pieces together because

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Speaker 9: Joe Kent was someone that we we knew that there

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Speaker 9: was a relationship there between Charlie and Andrew and Joe.

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Speaker 9: We knew that when Charlie would visit Washington, d C.

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Speaker 4: Who would talk to Joe.

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Speaker 9: And we kind of put two and two together and

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Speaker 9: eventually I'll leave out some of the details that I

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Speaker 9: shouldn't say. We kind of verified that the messages had

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Speaker 9: been given by Andrew to Joe Kent, and that Joe

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Speaker 9: Kent had been the one to pass them on to Candace.

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Speaker 9: And I was thinking about this when I saw that

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Speaker 9: interview that Tucker did with you know, so Tucker did

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Speaker 9: this interview with Joe, and Joe was talking about the

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Speaker 9: Charlie Kirk assassination. And you have to remember that Candace

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Speaker 9: kept saying that she has information from the from the

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Speaker 9: top levels that there's questions to be asked, Okay, this

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Speaker 9: is all Joe.

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Speaker 6: Kent not saying no, I don't think he will because

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Speaker 6: you know, because of this this happened.

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Speaker 4: I'm not saying that at all. I'm just saying there's

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Speaker 4: unanswered questions.

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Speaker 6: We know the pressure because of the text messages, text

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Speaker 6: messages that have been made public, that Charlie was under

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Speaker 6: a lot of pressure from a lot of pro Israel donors.

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Speaker 6: And again we know Charlie was advocating to President Trump

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Speaker 6: against this war with Iran because he's the head OFCCOUNT.

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Speaker 4: Now you have to think of it. Think of it

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Speaker 4: from Canda's perspective.

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Speaker 9: This is someone who's the head of the counter Terrorism

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Speaker 9: Center and he's saying that there's something there, right, and

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Speaker 9: he but he gave her the text messages. So when

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Speaker 9: he was on that when he was being interviewed by

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Speaker 9: Tucker and he said to Tucker, well, you know, we

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Speaker 9: all know about the text messages which were made public.

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Speaker 4: That was his exact words which were made public.

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Speaker 9: And I'm watching this and of course the millions of

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Speaker 9: people who watched this aren't seeing it the way I'm

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Speaker 9: seeing it.

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Speaker 4: I'm looking at going, excuse me, which war made public?

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Speaker 4: You made them public.

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Speaker 9: Yes, he's talk about leaking now in other words, like,

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Speaker 9: let me back up and say it this way.

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Speaker 4: Even if you say that there's reason.

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Speaker 9: To investigate this, there's no justification for sending those text

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Speaker 9: messages to Candice Owens, none whatsoever.

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Speaker 4: Anyway, that's my little reveal for you.

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Speaker 2: No, I mean, thank you first of all for sharing.

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Speaker 1: And the second part to that, though, Rabbi is I

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Speaker 1: watched him with Megan Kelly and she asked him in

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Speaker 1: three different kinds of ways that felt as though it

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Speaker 1: had been rehearsed prior, if I'm being honest, and his

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Speaker 1: response of no to her questions about had he been leaking?

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Speaker 1: I mean it looked like I'm not going to use

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Speaker 1: an analogy that's inappropriate, but you know, he looked nervous

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Speaker 1: and completely unsure of what he was saying, and the

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Speaker 1: no was was so weak. There was nothing in it

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Speaker 1: that felt like he was. I mean, if someone was

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Speaker 1: accusing me of that, I'd be pushing back hard, but

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Speaker 1: he was kind of no, no, no. I just feel like,

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Speaker 1: how can he say that? Though if he has done it,

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Speaker 1: because he said definitively no to leaking, will he now

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Speaker 1: look at it when it comes out and say, oh, well,

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Speaker 1: leaking is you know, defined as this, and what I

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Speaker 1: did wasn't lee you know, or they weren't confidential there.

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Speaker 2: You know, he'll somehow try to get out of it.

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Speaker 1: But the way he handled Megan Kelly, I thought he

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Speaker 1: looked wormish.

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Speaker 9: I think he's a mediocre person. I mean, yeh, but

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Speaker 9: he also got into a bad crowd. Much has been

582
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Speaker 9: made online in the last couple of days about how

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Speaker 9: his tweets from a few years ago were in a

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Speaker 9: completely different direction on Iran. And of course his second wife,

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Speaker 9: who he recently married, has written for Grey Zone, work

586
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Speaker 9: for Max Blumenthal, who's a notorious Israel hater, America hater,

587
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Speaker 9: Russia and Iran shill and that's what he's married to.

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Speaker 4: So there's a lot of.

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Speaker 9: Questions there, and it also raises I'll tell you something else,

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Speaker 9: and this is just conjecture. We all know that Charlie

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Speaker 9: wrote famously wrote that letter to Prime Minister in Nataniah

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Speaker 9: who which he talked about his support for Israel, and

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Speaker 9: we know that for years and years he was such

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Speaker 9: a non support of Israel. And then there was this

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Speaker 9: whole question of where he was in the final months

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Speaker 9: and whether he was wavering on Israel or turning on Israel.

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Speaker 4: Well, we always noticed that every time he would go

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Speaker 4: to Washington, d C.

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Speaker 9: And spend some time there, I mean, you'd go there

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Speaker 9: for a day, have some meetings, he'd always come back

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Speaker 9: kind of more cynical about Israel, more suspicious about Israel.

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Speaker 9: And now, in retrospect, I think back, and I wondered

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Speaker 9: to myself, you know, Charlie was a young guy, brilliant guy,

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Speaker 9: young guy. And here he's got this friend who's the

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Speaker 9: head of the counter Terrorism Department, he's in the Intel communities,

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Speaker 9: and he's in the Office of the of National Intelligence.

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Speaker 4: And I wonder if if all along.

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Speaker 9: It was Joe Kent who was who was poisoning Charlie

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Speaker 9: on Israel. That's just my conjecture, you know, because because

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Speaker 9: of who he is and the group and who he

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Speaker 9: runs with. It's also interesting, you know, when you think

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Speaker 9: back before when Tucker was on Fox, Joe Kent. You know,

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Speaker 9: Joe Kent ran for office a few times unsuccessfully.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's pretty much his career.

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Speaker 9: He served, He was a war hero for sure, and

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Speaker 9: his wife was killed and then he had a number

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Speaker 9: of unsuccessful runs for Congress and kind of became a

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Speaker 9: bit of a talking head on some MAGA shows, but

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Speaker 9: mainly on Tucker.

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Speaker 4: He was a regular on Tucker Carlson's.

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Speaker 9: Show, and so was Candace Owens, and so was Glenn

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Speaker 9: Greenwald and all these people who and they never talked

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Speaker 9: about Israel. Tucker Carlson never talked about Israel on his

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00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 9: show on Fox. But when you think back to the

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Speaker 9: people who were in that crowd, you know, I wonder

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Speaker 9: if they have a WhatsApp chat group.

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Speaker 1: Like a well exactly like a cult almost that you know,

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Speaker 1: it's slowly and he just chips away. The interesting part

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Speaker 1: is you talk about Charlie and how intelligent he was,

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Speaker 1: and he was one of the most phenomenal human beings

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Speaker 1: to ever live. But you also made the point last

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Speaker 1: time we spoke, Candice, maybe not so much included in

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Speaker 1: terms of intelligence and depth, but Megan Kelly clearly smart,

634
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Speaker 1: Tucker Carlson clearly very smart. And maybe it is just

635
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Speaker 1: the financial factor that motivates them. But if it's not,

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Speaker 1: if they've also been able to be kind of tricked

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Speaker 1: or coerced or indoctrinated, than anyone's vulnerable really aren't they.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's interesting, you know, it makes me think.

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Speaker 9: About you know, some of what made Charlie such an

640
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Speaker 9: admirable person. Charlie was suspicious of everybody, but not in.

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Speaker 4: A conspiratorial way, but in the meaning he took everything.

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Speaker 9: He was always measuring everything, and he wanted to hear

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Speaker 9: from different voices. This is how I ended up as

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00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 9: part of his life, right. He wanted them, you know,

645
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 9: he heard from those voices. He wanted to make sure he.

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Speaker 4: Had someone on the ground in Israel that he could

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Speaker 4: talk to.

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Speaker 1: And he was.

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Speaker 4: Always seeking people who knew more than him.

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Speaker 9: He had a number of people in his life who

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Speaker 9: were older than him, who were mentors on different topics

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Speaker 9: and different areas of his life that he was constantly

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Speaker 9: uh consulting with. There was a certain humility in that

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Speaker 9: he didn't think he had it all figured out, and uh,

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Speaker 9: you know, and that's and that's part of that's part

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Speaker 9: of what made him who That's part of what made

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Speaker 9: him who he was. But yeah, listen, people are vulnerable,

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Speaker 9: especially when you end up at a again at a

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Speaker 9: young age, having access. When you have access, there's this

660
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Speaker 9: you know, you feel like you're getting inside information.

661
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Speaker 4: You know, like when Candace says I have information all.

662
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Speaker 9: The way from the from the top in the intelligence community,

663
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 9: she's actually telling the truth.

664
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Speaker 4: Because if the head of counterintelligence is telling.

665
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Speaker 9: Her that this that this, that this ridiculous conspiracy theory

666
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Speaker 9: has has validity, she feels very much justified in saying

667
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Speaker 9: that it does.

668
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and emboldened, doesn't she?

669
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Speaker 1: And in some ways, you know, the role that he's

670
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Speaker 1: played in so much pain and suffering is significant.

671
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Speaker 2: And does he get held to account? We'll wait, We'll

672
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Speaker 2: wait and see.

673
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Speaker 1: I guess in a moral way or a religious way,

674
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Speaker 1: we all do eventually, don't we get held to account?

675
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Speaker 1: Speaking of Christian Zionism? Rabbi, you're fired up? Can you

676
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 1: explain this to me? I'm a good Catholic girl, but

677
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 1: probably this this.

678
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 9: Goes right into the conversation because you know, Joe and

679
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 9: and Candace and this uh, what's her name.

680
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 2: Carrie Sheen? Yeah, the beauty queen.

681
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, exactly, the Catholic who was harassing She was

682
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 9: harassing Chavis qust Enbaum at that hearing. That's that's how

683
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 9: she that's how she made her fame. So she got

684
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Speaker 9: her her seven minutes.

685
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Speaker 4: So there's something There's something interesting that's.

686
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Speaker 9: Happened in our political discourse about Israel over the last

687
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Speaker 9: really maybe half a year, mainly, which is that the

688
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 9: whole issue of Christian Zionism and the theological attack on

689
00:39:56,680 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 9: it coming from a lot of Catholics, but not only Athletics,

690
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 9: coming from Christians who view Christian Zionism as a kind

691
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 9: of heresy and are kind of doubling down. And part

692
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Speaker 9: of this, what makes it really dark, is part of

693
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Speaker 9: the messaging. And you hear it from Tucker a lot

694
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Speaker 9: and from Candace a lot, is that the Jews of today.

695
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Speaker 4: Aren't the real Jews. You've heard this before.

696
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Speaker 9: I'm sure you hear this, and I find it actually

697
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 9: a fascinating claim. I actually find it very interesting because

698
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 9: what makes it so interesting. Here's what makes it really

699
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 9: interesting is that it's brand new. Let me explain what

700
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 9: I mean. If you go back to let's say Martin Luther,

701
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:42,359
Speaker 9: who lived in the sixteenth century, okay, hated Jews, despise them.

702
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 4: He wrote a whole book.

703
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Speaker 9: Called on the Jews and their Lives Okay, despise Jews.

704
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Speaker 9: But he never claimed that the Jews of his time

705
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Speaker 9: were not the real Jews.

706
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Speaker 4: He absolutely acknowledged that they were. There are lots of.

707
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Speaker 9: Jew haters throughout history, a lot of a lot of

708
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Speaker 9: Jew haters in the name of Jesus throughout history. But

709
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Speaker 9: they didn't claim that the Jews of their time period

710
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Speaker 9: weren't the real Jews.

711
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Speaker 2: That's a good point.

712
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 9: It's a brand new claim. Now let me explain why

713
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 9: they're doing it. So I thought about this because I

714
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 9: encountered this.

715
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Speaker 4: I'll tell you a quick story.

716
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Speaker 9: I was once invited to speak, you know, before October seventh,

717
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 9: and I got involved in a lot of more political

718
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 9: messaging and advocating on behalf of Israel. My career is

719
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 9: really Jewish Christian relations, a lot of it in the

720
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Speaker 9: academic space, speaking in churches and Christian seminaries. I have

721
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Speaker 9: relationships with Christian theologians and leaders. And I was once

722
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Speaker 9: invited to speak at a Presbyterian church in the state

723
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Speaker 9: of Wyoming. And that's very unusual because the Presbyterian Church

724
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Speaker 9: of the United States of America, the PCUSA, is very

725
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Speaker 9: anti Israel. They support BDS, they're very very anti Israel.

726
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 4: But there was this one.

727
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Speaker 9: Presbyterian pastor, a woman out in Wyoming, and she wanted

728
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Speaker 9: to have me speak.

729
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Speaker 4: At her church, you know, to hear our side.

730
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Speaker 9: And she asked permission from the State presbyter of Wyoming

731
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Speaker 9: to have this event, and he didn't want to say yes,

732
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Speaker 9: but he also didn't want to say no to a

733
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Speaker 9: pastor of one of his churches and then have a

734
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Speaker 9: disgruntled pastor.

735
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Speaker 4: So he reluctantly allowed her to host me.

736
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Speaker 9: And he sent her an email allowing her to host

737
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Speaker 9: me and also saying that it had to be recorded,

738
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Speaker 9: the recording had to be sent to him. There was

739
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 9: all these stipulations, but the opening line of his email

740
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 9: to her was he said, I want to make my

741
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:31,839
Speaker 9: position clear. I do not equate the Jewish people of

742
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 9: today with the biblical nation of Israel. That was his

743
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Speaker 9: opening line. And she showed me the email. I don't

744
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Speaker 9: think he thought she'd show me the email. And she

745
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 9: showed me the email, and I thought to myself, that's

746
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 9: so interesting, like this is really a brand new thing.

747
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:46,839
Speaker 9: And then I looked into it and I realized it's

748
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 9: a claim that's only surfaced in the last few decades,

749
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 9: So why so let me It's very simple. Actually, the

750
00:42:56,040 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 9: classic Christian doctrine of the Jews is it's called super

751
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 9: sessionism or replacement theology, and that was the dominant view

752
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:08,760
Speaker 9: of all Christians from Augustine's.

753
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 4: Time until until today.

754
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Speaker 9: For most of that time, Christians believed that the Church

755
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 9: had replaced Israel, that the Jewish people had lost their

756
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 9: covenant right and everyone knows that, but it really became

757
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 9: a popular doctrine because Augustine, who's probably the most influential

758
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 9: Christian theologian, uh maybe of all time, arguably one of

759
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:32,800
Speaker 9: the most, he embraced this. But he explained it as follows.

760
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Speaker 9: He said that the Jewish people are like Cain, who

761
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Speaker 9: killed his brother and was then a wanderer for the

762
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Speaker 9: rest of his life. So too, the Jewish people, for

763
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 9: killing Jesus are destined. And he also based on our

764
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 9: verse in Psalms, he had a whole there's a whole

765
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Speaker 9: passage in his book The City of God where he

766
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 9: explains this that the Jews are destined to be scattered

767
00:43:53,640 --> 00:44:00,080
Speaker 9: and powerless in exile forever as a as a wit

768
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Speaker 9: to bear witness to the consequences of rejecting Jesus.

769
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 4: Okay, And that became.

770
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Speaker 9: The dominant theology of the Catholic Church, and that's the

771
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Speaker 9: way most Christians believed, and even in the Protestant circles

772
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Speaker 9: where they embraced other forms of supercessionism, it was all

773
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Speaker 9: kind of built on this construct that Augustine had formulated.

774
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 4: What's the problem.

775
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 9: The problem is that when you make an assertion like that,

776
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 9: an eschatological assertion, that the Jewish people will be in

777
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 9: exile forever, and meanwhile the Jews at the time are saying, well, yeah,

778
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:32,240
Speaker 9: we've been in exile for a while, but we believe

779
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 9: that we're going to go back one day. Someone's going

780
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:37,319
Speaker 9: to be right and someone's going to be wrong. It's

781
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,879
Speaker 9: not like one person believes in the Trinity and one

782
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 9: person doesn't, and you never have to it never comes

783
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:44,879
Speaker 9: to a head. You just have different beliefs. If you're

784
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 9: making an assertion about history, let's see what happens. So

785
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 9: what happens when the Jewish people who have an unbroken

786
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 9: chain of who we are?

787
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 4: We have it's a totally unbroken chain.

788
00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:00,760
Speaker 9: We have communal records and books written by Jewish leaders

789
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 9: from every single century, almost every generation, going all the

790
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 9: way back to Temple times. We know exactly who we

791
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,359
Speaker 9: are and where we've been. The assertion that the Jews

792
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 9: of today aren't the real Jews is not held by

793
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 9: any legitimate historian. Because it's completely ahistorical nonsense.

794
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:16,320
Speaker 4: It's easy to refute.

795
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 9: And that's also what makes this so interesting that there's

796
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 9: here's the problem that these people are faced with history progresses,

797
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 9: and lo and behold, the Jewish people are in gathered

798
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 9: to the land of Israel. After a thousand, after thousands

799
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 9: of years in exile, we come back to our land

800
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 9: from the.

801
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Speaker 4: Four corners of the earth.

802
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 9: And as the Bible says, even if you are scattered

803
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 9: to the ends of the heavens, from there, the Lord

804
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 9: your God will gather you and bring you back to

805
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 9: the land of your forefathers, and you will take possession

806
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 9: of it and become more numerous and more prosperous than

807
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 9: your ancestors. That's Deuteronomy thirty. That's the in gathering of

808
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 9: the Jewish people. It's then repeated dozens of times. It's

809
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 9: the most repeated prophecy in the Bible. Okay, and no

810
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,240
Speaker 9: other nation from the ancient world that went into exile

811
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,760
Speaker 9: ever came back home, and many many nations were exiled

812
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 9: by invading empires. So the only one that God said

813
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:11,399
Speaker 9: it would happen that nation comes back to the land

814
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 9: of Israel. So, now, if you believe in Augustine's doctrine,

815
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 9: you have a problem because if Augustine was alive today

816
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 9: with a prosperous nation of Israel in our homeland in

817
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:26,760
Speaker 9: gathered from the four corners of the earth, he wouldn't

818
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 9: have said what he said. So you have a problem

819
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 9: if you're a Catholic. Well, if you're a Catholic who

820
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 9: believes that, if you're a supercessionist, you say, wait a second,

821
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 9: what do I do? If I acknowledge that the Jewish

822
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:41,319
Speaker 9: people today are the same people from the times of

823
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 9: the Bible, then I have to face the fact that

824
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 9: the biblical prophecy of their return has happened.

825
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:49,359
Speaker 2: So what do I do?

826
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Speaker 9: I either have to adjust my theology, which is what

827
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:56,799
Speaker 9: Christian Zionists did. Christian Zionists basically say, oh wait, a

828
00:46:56,840 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 9: second replacement theology that says that the Jews are never

829
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 9: coming back turns out to be wrong, so they've made

830
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:09,359
Speaker 9: a change. So all these these traditional Catholics look at

831
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,720
Speaker 9: the Christian Zionis and say, hey, that's a brand new idea,

832
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 9: and therefore they try to delegitimize it. But what they're

833
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 9: actually doing is they're saying, hey, wait, we have to

834
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 9: adjust and these and these traditional Catholics, they can't accept

835
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 9: the fact that the.

836
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 4: Jewish people have returned to their land.

837
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Speaker 9: So their only way out, their only workaround is to

838
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:31,720
Speaker 9: say that the Jews aren't actually the Jews.

839
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Speaker 1: That incredible and you're right, because I can't deny the

840
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 1: return to the homeland that's happened.

841
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 9: They have to say, actually, the Jews right, yes, that

842
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:42,240
Speaker 9: is in Gosha.

843
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 2: Incredible.

844
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Speaker 1: I'm going to challenge you again, and it doesn't feel

845
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 1: like it's a challenge for you at all. But the

846
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:51,320
Speaker 1: MAGA fracture, the MAGA Coalition, can you tell me what

847
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 1: is going on and what impact do you think it

848
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 1: actually has in the real world, particularly with midterms coming

849
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 1: up in the future of MAGA the Republican po.

850
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 4: Oh, it's very serious.

851
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 9: Listen, MAGA, the MAGA Coalition was never one movement. It

852
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 9: was always a coalition of different groups. And these different groups,

853
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 9: even within the Mega movement, always have existed and even

854
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 9: in their own ecosystems within the movement.

855
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 4: Let me explain what I mean.

856
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:20,800
Speaker 9: The people who listened to let's say, the Daily Wire

857
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 9: and the people who watch Real America's Voice, and the

858
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 9: people who and the and the evangelical Christians watching.

859
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 4: TBN and CBN, and the people watching Fox. These are

860
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 4: not the same audiences.

861
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:37,359
Speaker 9: And the and the and the RFK health libertarians who

862
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 9: were also part of the MAGA coalition, these are all

863
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 9: These are different ideologies, These are different groups, and they

864
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:47,760
Speaker 9: don't really overlap. They all only overlapped around one person

865
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 9: who they all identified with and who appeared on all

866
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,760
Speaker 9: those platforms, and that was Charlie Kirk, which is why.

867
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 4: There's such a huge outsider.

868
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:58,919
Speaker 9: Sometimes wonder why is everyone fighting over what this thirty

869
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 9: two year old would have thought. The reason is that

870
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 9: everyone had this basic awareness that he was the only

871
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 9: person unifying the movement.

872
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 4: Everyone else is part of a certain faction. Think about it.

873
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 9: Every other big name in MAGA, they're clearly in a

874
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:18,839
Speaker 9: particular camp within MAGA. Whether it's Steve Bannon or Matt

875
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 9: Walsh or I don't know some of the people, or

876
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 9: Glenn Beck, they're all in a certain camp. The only

877
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 9: person who could credibly go on the Christian networks and

878
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,479
Speaker 9: go on this you know the same network as Steve

879
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 9: Bannon and go on you know, at Fox, and everyone

880
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 9: felt that he was one of them, was Charlie, and

881
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 9: it was very it was very intentional. The fracturing of

882
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 9: the movement started happening over the Iran War in the

883
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 9: summer and it's continued now. This issue has really highlighted

884
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:55,239
Speaker 9: a key breaking point in the movement over over involvement

885
00:49:55,360 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 9: in wars overseas, over where money gets spent, over Israel,

886
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:04,959
Speaker 9: and it's and I fear that it's going to cause

887
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 9: tremendous damage in the midterms. We'll have to see how

888
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:11,800
Speaker 9: much President Trump leans into the campaigning because he i

889
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:16,400
Speaker 9: he can unify the movement, I think, but I think

890
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:18,279
Speaker 9: it's I think we're at a very we're at a

891
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:20,800
Speaker 9: very problematic place, and it could very well be that

892
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 9: the that the MAGA movement is really fracturing into different

893
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 9: factions and could end up, you know, there could be

894
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:31,320
Speaker 9: another realignment within it. I you know, going back to

895
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:32,839
Speaker 9: what we talked about last time I was on your show,

896
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 9: and this connects to it. I think that Tucker Carlson

897
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 9: with the Joe Kent interview, which I don't think was

898
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 9: a good look, and also this other recent interview he

899
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 9: did with the Chinese Communist Party operative.

900
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 4: I think he's it's confirming what I said to you.

901
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:49,320
Speaker 9: I believe that he continues to shave off more and

902
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 9: more parts of his audience, and hopefully there will be

903
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 9: a kind of coalescing around a sane worldview that could

904
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:59,839
Speaker 9: hold the movement together. But I fear that I fear

905
00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 9: the MAGA movement, which again, it was never really one movement.

906
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 9: It was a coalition of groups that all agreed that

907
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 9: we have to get rid of the Democrats and get

908
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 9: Trump in, but they never really agreed ideologically on what

909
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 9: it means to make America great and what that greatness

910
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 9: really is.

911
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 4: So that's how I see the lad in the land.

912
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 1: It's fascinating just on the Iran war issue alone, when

913
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:24,839
Speaker 1: you look at some of the polls that are coming

914
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 1: out and Fox had a few of them on over

915
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 1: the past say twenty four hours or so, and what

916
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 1: they tend to show is that there is almost an

917
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:34,760
Speaker 1: increased support amongst those who refer to themselves as MAGA

918
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 1: voters and mega supporters for this war on Iran, despite these.

919
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 2: Very high profile.

920
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 1: Former MAGA you know, absolutists essentially, who are being very

921
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:49,839
Speaker 1: vocally against and arguing the exact opposite points. So does

922
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 1: that give you faith in that maybe these high profile

923
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 1: ones that are basically looking for money clicks and are

924
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:02,720
Speaker 1: motivated by self interest don't necessar necessarily bring the grassroots

925
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:04,880
Speaker 1: of MAGA along with them when they fracture.

926
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 2: Is that also a possibility that should comfort Yeah?

927
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 9: Yeah, And like I indicated that last time, the last

928
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 9: time we spoke that that you know, online world is

929
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:16,279
Speaker 9: not real world.

930
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 4: I think a lot of a lot.

931
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 9: Of the people who've been taken in by you know,

932
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:25,880
Speaker 9: the Tucker Candice Megan group skew much younger, who have

933
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 9: a low voter turnout. Anyway, Generally, I'm not sure how

934
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 9: much effect it'll have. But we've also seen some recalibrating

935
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 9: from some people. For example, Steve Bannon, who I've had

936
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 9: a longtime relationship with.

937
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 4: I still go on his show frequently, and you know,

938
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 4: sometimes and I mix it up.

939
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 9: He still has a lot of anti Israel people on also,

940
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 9: and you know, it's an important place, it's an important

941
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 9: platform for me to be on. I was on a

942
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:50,359
Speaker 9: show earlier today actually, and we were arguing, we were

943
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 9: disagreeing a bit. But whereas in June, his approach to

944
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 9: the Twelve Day War was very against American intervention, and

945
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 9: he was lashing out at Israel, and it almost sounded

946
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 9: like what we're hearing from some of the isolation is now,

947
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 9: where it almost seems like they're rooting against America because

948
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 9: they were so opposed to it.

949
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 4: He's not.

950
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 9: He's kind of recalibrated, and it's basically saying, look, I

951
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:18,279
Speaker 9: didn't like this, but once we're in it, we need

952
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 9: to win and we need to trust Trump. Like I

953
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 9: said last time I was with you, that that was

954
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 9: Charlie's approach to the war in June, which was, I

955
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:29,399
Speaker 9: don't like this, but we have to trust Trump. If

956
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:32,279
Speaker 9: that I really believe that if that's the approach that

957
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 9: these people would take, it would hold the coalition together.

958
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 9: So there are some hopeful signs, but I'm not going

959
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 9: to be I'm not going to be Pollyannish and say, oh,

960
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 9: everything's going to be fine.

961
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 4: I think the midterms, the midterms could be a big problem.

962
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I suspect they might be messy. I think you're

963
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 2: absolutely right.

964
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 1: I want to end today, Rabbi, and thank you so

965
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 1: much for giving me some extra time on the personal

966
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 1: aspect of this war. I did a piece yesterday that's

967
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 1: gone pretty viral. Mark Levin shed it and a few others,

968
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:03,800
Speaker 1: And of course you know, the hate is profound, but

969
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 1: it doesn't bother me in the slightest. But essentially making

970
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:09,800
Speaker 1: the point that what you're doing in Israel on behalf

971
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:13,879
Speaker 1: of us all is unbelievable. The sacrifice that the people

972
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:16,720
Speaker 1: of Israel are willing to make, not just for their children,

973
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:19,320
Speaker 1: not just for the people of Iran, but for the

974
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 1: rest of the West and the entire world to be

975
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 1: rid of this evil terrorist regime is extraordinary. And yet

976
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 1: we still try to demonize Israel. And my point was

977
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 1: we should be saying to you, to your wife, to

978
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 1: your family, to your children who are fighting, thank you,

979
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:36,359
Speaker 1: thank you for going through hell, thank you for being

980
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:39,320
Speaker 1: willing to die. Because the bombs from the Islamic regime

981
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 1: are not reaching America or the UK, or Europe or Australia.

982
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:45,439
Speaker 1: They can, which we've now learned a lot of people

983
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 1: are already suspected. We now know they can, but they're not.

984
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 1: Right now, it's you who are paying with your lives

985
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 1: so that we can have a chance at a life

986
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 1: without these terrorists scumbags. So the personal element of it.

987
00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 1: I'd love if we could end on.

988
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 4: That sure and thank you for that sentiment. It means

989
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 4: a lot.

990
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 9: And I know, I personally know many people in Israel

991
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 9: who great who take great.

992
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 4: Comfort in your words and your support, so on behalf

993
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 4: of them. I want to thank you.

994
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 9: Just on a personal note, I say, I have multiple

995
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 9: children who've been on the front lines since October seventh,

996
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:27,400
Speaker 9: in heavy combat situations, including what's going on in Lebanon now.

997
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 9: So I say this, you know, and I also have

998
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 9: you know, friends who've lost who've lost kids and lost

999
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 9: family members on the battlefield. But at the same time,

1000
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 9: you know, the Happiness Index that is published every year

1001
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 9: came out again and Israel once again was in the

1002
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:49,759
Speaker 9: top ten. Israel usually is in the top five, but

1003
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:50,319
Speaker 9: I guess there's a.

1004
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 4: War going on, so we're only like number eight.

1005
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:54,359
Speaker 9: And if you look at all the other countries up there,

1006
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 9: they're like Scandinavian countries that haven't had that have never

1007
00:55:57,160 --> 00:55:59,360
Speaker 9: had an enemy, you know, And you have to wonder

1008
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 9: why is it that is that Israel is one of

1009
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 9: the happiest places on earth even as we're fighting. And

1010
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 9: I think it has to do with the fact that

1011
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 9: when you have and I'm not wishing war on anyone,

1012
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 9: but everyone serving in the military and fighting side by

1013
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 9: side and making those sacrifices together.

1014
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:19,799
Speaker 4: There is a sense of social cohesion here of.

1015
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 9: Everyone in a shared experience, in a very intense, high stakes,

1016
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 9: shared experience, with the weight of Jewish history on our shoulders,

1017
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:30,920
Speaker 9: and an awareness that we are on the cusp of

1018
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 9: of of of of the of a great era of history.

1019
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 9: When we achieve victory, there's there's but the fact that

1020
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:40,400
Speaker 9: we're all going through together. There is a bond that

1021
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 9: people in Israel feel with each other that just that

1022
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 9: is I don't even know if you could have it

1023
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 9: without fighting together. So while it's difficult and it tests us,

1024
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:56,239
Speaker 9: and there's a lot of stresses, and there's a law

1025
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 9: and and and the and the problems are real, the

1026
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 9: PTSD and the broken families, and that is real, but

1027
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:03,400
Speaker 9: at the same time, on a societal level, on a

1028
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:08,800
Speaker 9: national level, there's great strength and joy and closeness and

1029
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:11,359
Speaker 9: intimacy that everyone in the country feels with each other

1030
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:15,400
Speaker 9: because of the war. So that's my personal reflection, and

1031
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 9: I really feel, you know, you can feel multiple things

1032
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 9: at once.

1033
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, in a very small way, and whilst I haven't

1034
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 1: done it long term, I was there during the Twelve

1035
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 1: Day War and the couple of families.

1036
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 2: I was there on my own.

1037
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 1: I've gone for one night to get an honorary doctorate

1038
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 1: from Reichmann University, which was an incredible honor, and the

1039
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:37,280
Speaker 1: next day was on the way to the airport when

1040
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 1: the war broke out. So it was there for twelve days,

1041
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 1: and the two families I was pain in the butt

1042
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 1: because I attached myself to them, and they've now become

1043
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 1: I visit them twice a year, you know, families for

1044
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 1: life because the bond that you go through. And when

1045
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 1: I left, I felt not even guilt, but this enormous

1046
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 1: disappointment that I was leaving given the enormity of what

1047
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:01,440
Speaker 1: was being done. You know, it's just it's so hard

1048
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 1: to explain. It's something I could never have understood had

1049
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 1: I not been there. But to do it long term

1050
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 1: is another kettle of fish. And the second thing I'll

1051
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 1: say is I did my first shab butt in Israel

1052
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 1: maybe a year ago now, and I will always remember

1053
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 1: coming from an Australian family where we love each other

1054
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 1: as much as you love your family.

1055
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 2: I have no doubt, but it was different.

1056
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 1: The way people interacted, The way mums stood there and

1057
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 1: put their arms around their teenage daughters, the way that

1058
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 1: a sixteen year old boy hugged his seven year old

1059
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 1: brother was different to what we would do in Australia.

1060
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 1: And I was looking at it thinking, you know, two

1061
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 1: of them were going off back to the IDF afterwards,

1062
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 1: we're going back off to service. And I thought, it's

1063
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 1: a different kettle of fish when you are a mum

1064
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 1: thinking your daughter might get killed in battle tomorrow, or

1065
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 1: might go back to Gaza, or when you're seventeen about

1066
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 1: to go and join and you've got a seven year

1067
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 1: old brother who in my country we would find a

1068
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 1: massive pain in the butt and you wouldn't be endearing

1069
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:57,440
Speaker 1: to you'd love each other, but it's different. There's a

1070
00:58:57,560 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 1: different kind of intimacy, love and a visual showing of

1071
00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 1: affection as well as the band are and everything else

1072
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 1: that comes from a group of people who know that

1073
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 1: life is precious, who know that tomorrow they may lose

1074
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 1: someone they love, and we don't have that in Australia.

1075
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:15,920
Speaker 1: It's not the same because it's not our experience, but

1076
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:18,440
Speaker 1: it stayed with me and it was just Yeah, it

1077
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 1: stayed with me for a long time.

1078
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:25,000
Speaker 4: That's beautiful. Wow, Yeah, it's really beautiful. It's really moving,

1079
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 4: and I mean it very much.

1080
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 1: Rabbi, thank you so so much and sending so much

1081
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 1: love to your family and your beautiful children. Please thank

1082
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:35,040
Speaker 1: them for their service on behalf of all of us

1083
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:37,440
Speaker 1: with half a brain and a whole heart, because we

1084
00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 1: understand what they're doing and we thank them.

1085
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 4: Thank you, God, bless you. Anne.

1086
00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 2: He's brilliant, isn't he. Oh my goodness. I could listen

1087
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 2: to him talk for hours and hours, So thank you

1088
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 2: so much for watching. It's time for some fan feedback.

1089
00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:52,640
Speaker 2: In the video we showed you at the start, or

1090
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 2: if you missed it, make sure you check it out.

1091
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 2: It was essentially my message to.

1092
00:59:57,000 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 1: The world saying, maybe say thank you to Israel for

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Speaker 1: being willing to die on behalf of us, all to

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Speaker 1: fight an enemy of us, all that will benefit all

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Speaker 1: of us.

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Speaker 2: And wow did that fire up the haters, my lord?

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Speaker 1: So I wanted to bring some of that to you,

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Speaker 1: mainly from X of course, I mean this it's more

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Speaker 1: picture form. So if you are listening to us on

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Speaker 1: the podcast, I mean you shed tears over things that

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Speaker 1: deeply hurt. Someone Putting a dumb bitch juice in my

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Speaker 1: hand and having me drink from it in an AI

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Speaker 1: generated picture is not one of those moments.

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Speaker 2: That really had an impact.

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Speaker 1: It's just I just I want people to be clever

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Speaker 1: if they're going to take me on, be funny, be clever,

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Speaker 1: be obliterate me.

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Speaker 2: But again, putting like a popper, like a little thing

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Speaker 2: of juice in my hand with the words dumb bitch

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Speaker 2: juice and having me drink it, it's none of the above.

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Speaker 2: It's so stupid. But I mean points for trying. Bless you.

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Speaker 1: Aston Bill says you are a brainless or critical thinker,

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Speaker 1: says boom boom.

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Speaker 2: Tel Aviv I mean, oh.

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Speaker 1: Paul Simon says, this is zionus BS propaganda and just

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Speaker 1: on something. By the way, a few people say the

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Speaker 1: same thing. I don't remember her saying beep about Palestinian lives,

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Speaker 1: recap and sou bitches, or where were you when they

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Speaker 1: kill Palistin. Look back at anything I've done post October seven,

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Speaker 1: particularly that year year and a half after, and I

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Speaker 1: think I would have spoken more about the suffering of

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Speaker 1: children in Gaza than almost anyone else who stood with Israel,

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Speaker 1: almost to the point where people were saying, hey, hold

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Speaker 1: back a little bit, sorry.

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Speaker 2: Watch my stuff.

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Speaker 1: I covered it in the most comprehensive way. But you

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Speaker 1: know why you don't care because I identified who was

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Speaker 1: actually responsible for their suffering, and it wasn't Israel.

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Speaker 2: It was Hummas.

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Speaker 1: It was the terrorists who make their lives a living hell,

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Speaker 1: who cause every second of pain and suffering, who are

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Speaker 1: responsible for every death in Gaza.

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Speaker 2: I spoke about it daily. But because I.

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Speaker 1: Refuse to buy into your bullshit and blame Israel, you say, oh,

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Speaker 1: where were you in all the power?

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Speaker 13: I was right there.

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Speaker 2: I was just actually too able to identify their enemy,

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Speaker 2: unlike you. Oh, here we go, you couldn't make this

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Speaker 2: shit up. She must love Zio Beep so much. I mean, beautiful,

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Speaker 2: here we go. Did you report on the kids dying

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Speaker 2: under rubbling Gaza?

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Speaker 4: Again?

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Speaker 1: Yes, I did, multiple times, over and over. In fact,

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Speaker 1: I shed tears over their suffering.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: But again I didn't blame Israel for it because I

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Speaker 1: have a brain. Oh edgar Bori, everyone looking at this

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Speaker 1: piece of trash. She's a failed TV sports host and

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Speaker 1: have moved into the podcast space because no one can

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Speaker 1: stand the side of it. Well, actually, no, I was

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Speaker 1: a TV host, a very successful one, a sports TV

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Speaker 1: host for fifteen years, and I got poached by a

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Speaker 1: news network from Channel nine who had offered me a

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Speaker 1: new contract and wanted me to stay. So sorry, No,

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Speaker 1: I wasn't a failed sports host.

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Speaker 2: I could still be there.

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Speaker 1: But you know what, eleven PM on a Friday night

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Speaker 1: talking about some blokes groin injury, just the novelty wore

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Speaker 1: off for me. Some people are suited to that, some

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Speaker 1: people love that. Some people that's their thing, and I

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Speaker 1: was so blessed to have that experience.

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Speaker 2: But for me, this is my space. This is what

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Speaker 2: I love, this is what I care about. So I

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Speaker 2: wasn't failed. I was poached. I don't know why that poached.

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Speaker 2: I was stolen knobs. Oh, by the way, I fled

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Speaker 2: million times.

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Speaker 1: If you don't fail multiple times a day, you are

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Speaker 1: not trying big enough things. I will continue to fail

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Speaker 1: over and over for the rest of my life.

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Speaker 2: Do you know why?

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Speaker 1: Because I am brave enough to try, and I back

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Speaker 1: myself even when it feels like it's just impossible, I'll

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Speaker 1: still try it.

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Speaker 2: And you know what happens?

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Speaker 1: Maybe one in ten times I'll pull it off. And

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Speaker 1: I might fail nine times prior, but for that one

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Speaker 1: in ten times, I'll pull it off. And you know what,

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Speaker 1: all of you people who are afraid to try anything,

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Speaker 1: you might not fail as much as I do, but

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Speaker 1: you'll never reach any great height.

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Speaker 2: And that's fine, each to their own. But I would

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Speaker 2: much rather try my ass off.

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Speaker 1: For everything that I want and to create a world

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Speaker 1: that I think is the best possible one for my child.

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Speaker 1: And I will fail along the way, but the times

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Speaker 1: that I succeed will mean more than anyone else who's

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Speaker 1: just going along like this and never put themselves out

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Speaker 1: there so proud to have failed multiple times.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's so many to go through. Ah blah

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Speaker 2: blah blah blah blah.

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Speaker 1: You know what.

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 13: I'm done.

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Speaker 1: There's enough war, you know, insults there. I mean, there's

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Speaker 1: a set of five hundred thousand views now an X

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Speaker 1: and the haters have been sharing it and just launching in.

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Speaker 1: But luckily for me and not so luckily for them,

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Speaker 1: don't care. Just gives me good content for my fan feedback.

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Speaker 2: Love you all, thank you.

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Speaker 1: Make sure Johnnys this week we have so much coming

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Speaker 1: up for you, Bishop Duwa an open letter to the

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Speaker 1: King of England saying stop this crap, save our nation.

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Speaker 1: Plus we've got Benham from the fd D on the

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Speaker 1: latest out of Iran.

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Speaker 2: When the war is one, Love you all and we'll

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Speaker 2: see you seek