WEBVTT - The Scott Jennings Podcast, April 27, 2026

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<v Speaker 1>The voice of free speech, the truth delivered, common sense

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<v Speaker 1>for the American people.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to the Scott Jennings Show.

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<v Speaker 1>Weekend.

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<v Speaker 3>Terror in Washington reminds us that, yes, in fact, the

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<v Speaker 3>American left has a violence problem. We'll discuss in just

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<v Speaker 3>a moment what is the security fallout from Saturday night's

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<v Speaker 3>attack on President Trump At the White House correspondence dinner.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll talk to a former deputy director of the Secret

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<v Speaker 3>Service for his opinion, and we get the latest on

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<v Speaker 3>Iran today as the details of diplomacy remain murky as

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<v Speaker 3>we enter a new week of ceasefire and blockade. It

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<v Speaker 3>is Monday, April the twenty seventh. This is common sense

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<v Speaker 3>for the American people. I'm Scott Jennings, broadcasting for Salem

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<v Speaker 3>from your nation's capital. On this day in history, twelve

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<v Speaker 3>ninety six, King Edward the First of England invaded Scotland,

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<v Speaker 3>setting off years of warfare between the two nations. And

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<v Speaker 3>as for today's news, the present King of England, King

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<v Speaker 3>Charles the Third, arrives in Washington, d C.

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<v Speaker 1>For a state visit the British Royals.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll meet with President Trump host a garden party at

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<v Speaker 3>which yours truly is expected to be present and deliver

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<v Speaker 3>and addressed to Congress. These two great nations have been

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<v Speaker 3>the protectors of Western civilization in decades past. Perhaps the

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<v Speaker 3>King will leave here imbued with and reminded of that

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<v Speaker 3>spirit as his own nation grapples with an immigration crisis

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<v Speaker 3>that has warped its domestic politics and jeopardized its standing

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<v Speaker 3>as a pillar of the West. Now to the weekends

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<v Speaker 3>events in Washington, d C. The annual White House Correspondent's

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<v Speaker 3>Dinner was to take place Saturday night at the Washington Hilton,

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<v Speaker 3>site of an attempted assassination of President Reagan in nineteen

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<v Speaker 3>eighty one. This dinner takes place at this location every year.

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<v Speaker 3>All of Washington's journalists, powerbrokers, special interests, government officials, even

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<v Speaker 3>if you celebrities, gat to celebrate the First Amendment. Other

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<v Speaker 3>presidents have routine lee attended this dinner, but not President Trump,

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<v Speaker 3>who hasn't been since twenty eleven, when President Obama famously

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<v Speaker 3>made fun of him, leading Washington's elite to laugh at

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<v Speaker 3>the one day, forty fifth and forty seventh president. Those

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<v Speaker 3>are jokes, I'm sure the elite wish they could have back.

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<v Speaker 3>Since then, Trump has snubbed the dinner, but this year,

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<v Speaker 3>for some reason, he decided to attend and then terror struck.

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<v Speaker 3>Thirty one year old Cole Thomas Allen of Torrance, California

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<v Speaker 3>rushed the security checkpoint with a shotgun, two handguns, and

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<v Speaker 3>multiple knives. He was taken down by Secret Service, but

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<v Speaker 3>shockingly avoided being shot himself. Allan did hit a Secret

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<v Speaker 3>Service agent in the bulletproof vest.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank goodness, he'll be okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Thomas the shooter is now under arrest and faces several

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<v Speaker 3>federal charges. He's appearing in district court in Washington today.

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<v Speaker 3>In the hours that followed the dinner, which was postponed,

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<v Speaker 3>a clear picture emerged. This man, a school teacher with

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<v Speaker 3>a PhD from Caltech, had been marinating in standard issue

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<v Speaker 3>left wing talking points, things you hear every day on

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<v Speaker 3>cable news and on the left's favorite social media websites.

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<v Speaker 3>He also attended a No King's rally, apparently where people

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<v Speaker 3>routinely hold signs and call for Trump's death. Trump is hitler,

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<v Speaker 3>Trump is a fascist. Trump is a racist, Trump is

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<v Speaker 3>a threat to democracy. Trump is a pedophile. That is

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<v Speaker 3>what Cole Allen was marinating in on a regular basis,

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<v Speaker 3>and he was programmed by people like Congressman Ted lu

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<v Speaker 3>Take a listen to Cut seventeen.

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<v Speaker 4>Donald Trump is in the Epstein files thousands and thousands

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<v Speaker 4>of times.

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<v Speaker 5>In those files, there's highly disturbing allegations of Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 5>raping children, of Donald Trump threatening to kill children.

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<v Speaker 3>Obviously, the shooter believed Ted Luw's lies and decided to

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<v Speaker 3>do something about it. I mean, if you believed all

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<v Speaker 3>the things they say about Trump, you could see how

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<v Speaker 3>someone might get the idea that killing him is a

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<v Speaker 3>good idea. Would it be a good idea to kill Hitler?

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<v Speaker 3>After all? But when violent action occurs, we get Democrats

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<v Speaker 3>immediately claiming they have no idea what you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 3>Listen to Congressman Jamie Raskin on Sunday morning, the morning

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<v Speaker 3>after this on CNN.

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<v Speaker 1>It's jaw dropping cut eighteen.

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<v Speaker 5>And you have, as many of your fellow Democrats have

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<v Speaker 5>used some heated rhetoric against the president. And do you

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<v Speaker 5>think twice about that when something like this happened.

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<v Speaker 3>What rhetoric do you have in mind? What a complete

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<v Speaker 3>and total joke of a human being, The idea that

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<v Speaker 3>he doesn't know what is said on the left about

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<v Speaker 3>Trump that incites all these lunatics to violence. This sort

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<v Speaker 3>of feigned ignorance is a permission structure to keep it going.

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<v Speaker 3>But it isn't confined to a clown like Raskin. None

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<v Speaker 3>other than the former President of the United States, Barack Obama,

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<v Speaker 3>on late Sunday afternoon, well after we knew the motivations

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<v Speaker 3>of the left wing lunatic shooter, issued a statement about

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<v Speaker 3>the matter. I'll read you the first sentence and I quote,

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<v Speaker 3>although we don't yet have the details about the motives

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<v Speaker 3>behind last night shooting end quote. This is insidious, it

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<v Speaker 3>is sick, and it is what the left does to

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<v Speaker 3>keep the violence in the violent rhetoric going. They have

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<v Speaker 3>no ability to control their radical base, and so people

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<v Speaker 3>like Raskin and Obama have just decided to excuse it

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<v Speaker 3>by pretending to ignore it. And guess what, six months

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<v Speaker 3>from now, six years from now, some Democrat talking head

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<v Speaker 3>on cable TV will say, oh, we don't really know

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<v Speaker 3>why that guy shot up the White House Correspondence dinner.

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<v Speaker 3>Even Obama said so. Just a couple of days before

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<v Speaker 3>the dinner, the most hateful man in America, Jimmy Kimmel,

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<v Speaker 3>gave this mock dinner speech.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen to this cut eleven our first left, dy Malania

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<v Speaker 1>is here.

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<v Speaker 4>Look at more's so beautiful, missus Trump. You have a

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<v Speaker 4>glow like an expectant widow, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, laughing laughing at that, they were, Do you get it?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you understand? This isn't Kimmel being funny. This is

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<v Speaker 3>wish casting, This is dreaming, this is hoping. This is

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<v Speaker 3>Jimmy Kimmel trying to will into existence the death of

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<v Speaker 3>Donald Trump. And he pretty much does this on a

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<v Speaker 3>nightly basis. Three weeks ago, Saturday Night Live joked about

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<v Speaker 3>Trump being assassinated cut nineteen.

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<v Speaker 4>President Trump attended the opening night of Chicago at the

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<v Speaker 4>Kennedy Center. And I think that's cool that the president

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<v Speaker 4>is going to the theater.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, what's the worst that could happen?

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<v Speaker 3>The liberals have decided that the trouble was subtlety is

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<v Speaker 3>that not everyone gets it.

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<v Speaker 1>So they just pretty much say out loud.

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<v Speaker 3>Now their preferred outcomes and hope for someone to take

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<v Speaker 3>them up on it. Last September, the biggest buffoon in

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<v Speaker 3>American politics, Tim Walls was hoping to wake up to

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<v Speaker 3>news that Trump had died. Cut twenty you get up

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<v Speaker 3>in the morning and you doom scroll through things. And

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<v Speaker 3>although I will say this, the last few days.

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<v Speaker 1>You woke up thinking there might be news.

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<v Speaker 2>Just saying, just saying, there will be news sometime, just

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<v Speaker 2>so you know there will be.

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<v Speaker 1>News, folks.

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<v Speaker 3>They aren't hiding it and they aren't sorry about it either.

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<v Speaker 3>Democratic candidates know what time it is in their party.

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<v Speaker 3>They know exactly what their radical base wants to hear,

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<v Speaker 3>listen to Abdel al sayed, the leading Democrat candidate for

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<v Speaker 3>send it Up in Michigan.

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<v Speaker 1>Cut twenty one.

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<v Speaker 7>We don't knock down, with all due respect that they

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<v Speaker 7>go low, we don't go high.

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<v Speaker 8>We take them to the mud and choke them out.

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<v Speaker 3>And last week Democrat leader Hakeem Jeffries issued orders to

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<v Speaker 3>the nation's radicals cut fourteen.

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<v Speaker 8>We are in an era.

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<v Speaker 4>Of maximum warfare everywhere, all the time, and we're going

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<v Speaker 4>to keep the pressure on Republicans in every single state

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<v Speaker 4>in the Union to ensure at the end of the

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<v Speaker 4>day that there is a fair national map, because we

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<v Speaker 4>believe that it's the people who should decide who's in

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<v Speaker 4>the majority in the next Congress, not Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 3>Maximum warfare, folks, we have a left wing violence problem

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<v Speaker 3>in America. As I had to explain to a CNN

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<v Speaker 3>panel on Sunday Afternoon Cut twenty two, you can understand

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<v Speaker 3>why we're on edge as conservative zough three times the President,

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<v Speaker 3>Steve Scalise, Brett Kavanaugh, Charlie Kirk. Heck, there was even

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<v Speaker 3>a plot against Russ Volt the other day. Who's the

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<v Speaker 3>head of the Office of Management and Budget. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>Conservatives are I think rightfully on edge because this keeps

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<v Speaker 3>happening over and over and over again, and people keep

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<v Speaker 3>calling the Donald Trump and Nazi, and they keep calling

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<v Speaker 3>him a fascist, and they keep repeating lies about him

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<v Speaker 3>that are not true, yet they keep getting repeated regarding Epstein.

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<v Speaker 1>And other things.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I'm just telling you as a Conservative who lives

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<v Speaker 3>in this every day. My friend was murdered last year,

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<v Speaker 3>My presidents had three assassination attempts. I have a notot

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<v Speaker 3>in my stomach about it every day that I wake up.

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<v Speaker 3>We have a left wing violence problem in this country. Media, comedians, politicians,

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<v Speaker 3>even some of the left wings supposed religious leaders, all

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<v Speaker 3>of them creating permission structures and excuses and motivations for

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<v Speaker 3>violence against President Trump and his party.

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<v Speaker 1>It is disgusting.

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<v Speaker 3>It is dangerous, and to be honest, I cannot believe

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<v Speaker 3>how calm the President himself is about all of it.

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<v Speaker 3>It is Monday, April the twenty seventh. As I glance

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<v Speaker 3>at the monitor, I see the White House Press Secretary

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<v Speaker 3>Caroline Levitt at the podium. We'll grab some sound from Caroline.

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<v Speaker 3>See what she has to say. I suspect she's got

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<v Speaker 3>some harsh words for Jimmy Kimmel and others who've been

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<v Speaker 3>inciting violence against President Trump and the President today will

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<v Speaker 3>reportedly meet with his national security team in the Situation

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<v Speaker 3>Room talking about Iran. It comes after some peace talks

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<v Speaker 3>we're canceled in Pakistan over the weekend. Someone who's been

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<v Speaker 3>in the situation room and in these kinds of meetings

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<v Speaker 3>is Victoria Coach. She joins us now. She's at the

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<v Speaker 3>Heritage Foundation and she's a former deputy National Security Advisor

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<v Speaker 3>to the President. Victoria, thanks for coming on the Scott

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<v Speaker 3>Jennings Show today.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's start here.

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<v Speaker 3>Give us your impression of where we stand with Iran

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<v Speaker 3>and the prospect of peace talks occurring.

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<v Speaker 7>This week.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, I'll tell you, Scott, this is the darnedest thing.

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<v Speaker 8>It's like the Tales two Wars. On the one hand,

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<v Speaker 8>you have this narrative that's being pushed by the New

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<v Speaker 8>York Times, Washington Posts, maybe even by some of your

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<v Speaker 8>colleagues on another news network, that we are losing this war,

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<v Speaker 8>that Garan is playing masterfully being Chairman Chancellor Mertz of

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<v Speaker 8>Germany came out today and said that the United States

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<v Speaker 8>is being humiliated by Iran, and it runs in the

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<v Speaker 8>base of every fact we know about this war, in

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<v Speaker 8>which we have crushed them militarily. They're going into day

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<v Speaker 8>fifty nine with no Internet for ninety nine percent of

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<v Speaker 8>their citizens. They're dragging junk ships out of dry dock

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<v Speaker 8>to stuff whale into them because they're running out of storage.

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<v Speaker 8>Their currency has no value, and the president has all

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<v Speaker 8>the cards. He can just sit there and watch that

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<v Speaker 8>whole country implode. So I think they'll be talking about

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<v Speaker 8>how they can exploit the very real leverage that they have.

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<v Speaker 8>Can it's the Iranians not to listen to the New

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<v Speaker 8>York Times in the Washington Post and to look at

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<v Speaker 8>the reality of what they face and come to the

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<v Speaker 8>table and make a decent deal.

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<v Speaker 1>Victoria Coach is our guest.

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<v Speaker 3>Victoria, tell us what you think Iran's immediate future is

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<v Speaker 3>when it comes to their economy. We still have this

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<v Speaker 3>naval blockade going on, and even though a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>people in the media want to argue that Iran has

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<v Speaker 3>more time here than the United States, I tend to

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<v Speaker 3>think it's the opposite. The Iranian economy is being choked

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<v Speaker 3>off from this oil revenue and other shipping revenue on

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<v Speaker 3>a daily basis.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it days, is it weeks?

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<v Speaker 3>How much longer can the Iranian economy withstand the US

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<v Speaker 3>naval blockade, which I think has been extremely successful.

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<v Speaker 8>It really has been, and it's broke old paradigm that

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<v Speaker 8>we have to be held hostage by the Iranians because

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<v Speaker 8>of the strait of hormotes. That's not true anymore. And

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<v Speaker 8>so there are going to be a couple of benchmarks.

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<v Speaker 8>The first is this storage issue they have for oil

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<v Speaker 8>that they probably have another five six days that they

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<v Speaker 8>can pump at normal capacity and store it. And after

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<v Speaker 8>that they're going to have to make some really hard

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<v Speaker 8>decisions about potentially capping wells, which can be as I'm

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<v Speaker 8>sure you know, very damaging to that precious resource for them.

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<v Speaker 8>Then there is the issue of the currency. They announced

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<v Speaker 8>before the war they were going to print five million

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<v Speaker 8>reale notes. They're now up to ten million real notes.

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<v Speaker 8>So I don't know if we're going to go to

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<v Speaker 8>twenty you know, what's what they're going to do about

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<v Speaker 8>their currency. And then there is the issue of when

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<v Speaker 8>they turn their stock market back on, which has been

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<v Speaker 8>shuttered since early March. I mean, will we see historic

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<v Speaker 8>They have to do it at some point, and what

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<v Speaker 8>we see historic capital flight out of Irun. So I

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<v Speaker 8>think this is going to be a rolling situation rather

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<v Speaker 8>than a single, you know, a single episode pushing it

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<v Speaker 8>over the edge. But it's very hard to see how

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<v Speaker 8>they solve those systemic problems.

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<v Speaker 3>Victoria Coats, thanks for your commentary on a RAN before

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<v Speaker 3>we go. I didn't want to find out if you

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<v Speaker 3>had any reaction to the attempted assassination the third time

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<v Speaker 3>of President Trump. This weekend, I was doing coverage on

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<v Speaker 3>CNN as I usually do for the White House Correspondent's Dinner.

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<v Speaker 1>What did you think when you saw that news?

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<v Speaker 8>It was just shocking. Each of these episodes over the

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<v Speaker 8>last couple of years where President Trump has been directly targeted.

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<v Speaker 8>Has been a real shock to the political system, and

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<v Speaker 8>I think shows us how dangerous the vitriol is that

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<v Speaker 8>is boiling on the left towards him, very personally and

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<v Speaker 8>towards anyone who associates with him. I mean, I've been

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<v Speaker 8>on the receiving end of it. I'm sure you have.

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<v Speaker 8>It is ugly, it's divisive, and it is beholden on

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<v Speaker 8>Democrat leadership to call it out and put an end

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<v Speaker 8>to it before somebody really gets hurt.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>The Democratic leadership, I'm afraid though, has just decided to

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<v Speaker 3>ignore it or pretend it isn't happening, because, honestly, Victoria,

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<v Speaker 3>I think radical base has.

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<v Speaker 1>Control of them and not the other way around.

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<v Speaker 3>Victoria Coates is vice president at the Heritage Foundation. She's

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<v Speaker 3>a national security expert, and she's former deputy National Security

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<v Speaker 3>advisor to President Trump. Thanks for coming on today. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>sure we'll have you back soon as we watch the

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<v Speaker 3>unfolding developments in the Middle East. When we return after

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<v Speaker 3>the next commercial break, I have on with me my

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<v Speaker 3>friend and author and journalist Selena Zito as she covered

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<v Speaker 3>the president in Butler, Pennsylvania. The last time there was

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<v Speaker 3>an assassination attempt against him. I want to talk to

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<v Speaker 3>her about her views on what happened at the White

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<v Speaker 3>House Correspondence dinner this weekend. It's common sense for the

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<v Speaker 3>American people. I'm Scott Jennings.

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<v Speaker 1>Stay with us, the man who made CNN that's safe

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<v Speaker 1>for conservatives again. Here Scott Jennings.

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<v Speaker 3>It is Monday, April the twenty seventh. We're tracking breaking news.

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<v Speaker 3>Caroline Levitt, the White House Press Secretary, has just finished

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<v Speaker 3>a briefing from the podium.

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<v Speaker 1>She wasn't even supposed to brief anymore. She was gonna

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<v Speaker 1>wrap up her.

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<v Speaker 3>Duties on Friday, but because of Saturday night's events, she

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<v Speaker 3>went back to the podium today. We'll bring some of

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<v Speaker 3>that to you in just a little bit, and coming

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<v Speaker 3>up in sixty seconds, we have the great journalist Selena

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<v Speaker 3>Zito here to discuss what happened on Saturday. First, though,

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<v Speaker 3>Jennings Broadcasting for Salem Joining us now. Selena Zito, author

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<v Speaker 3>of the number one New York Times bestseller Butler, The

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<v Speaker 3>Untold story of the near assassination of Donald Trump and

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<v Speaker 3>the fight for America's Heartland. She also writes for The

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<v Speaker 3>DC Examiner and for The Washington Post. Selena, Welcome back

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<v Speaker 3>to the Scott Jennings Show. I thought of you this

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<v Speaker 3>weekend as I was doing coverage on CNN of the

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<v Speaker 3>White House Correspondence Dinner, because you literally wrote the book,

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<v Speaker 3>the most thorough and detailed book and journalism about what

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<v Speaker 3>happened to the president in Butler, Pennsylvania as you watched

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<v Speaker 3>Saturday Nights events. What was going through your mind given

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<v Speaker 3>what you experience yourself and Butler.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, Scott, first of all, thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 8>having me on. You know, I have to say I

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<v Speaker 8>never I didn't realize how much I didn't process what

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<v Speaker 8>happened in Butler. To me. If people read my book

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<v Speaker 8>or know me, they know those shots went right over

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<v Speaker 8>my head and that my daughter was right beside me.

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<v Speaker 8>But I didn't. I didn't realize I hadn't processed it

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<v Speaker 8>appropriately because I kept working, right, and you just you

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<v Speaker 8>just keep working. And when I heard those shots that

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<v Speaker 8>really sort of hit me and hit me hard.

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<v Speaker 7>It was.

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<v Speaker 9>I think.

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<v Speaker 8>The first thing that strikes me, though, is President Trump's comportment.

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<v Speaker 8>He was calm, he was a matter of fact. He

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<v Speaker 8>took it in stride. And what's so important about that

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<v Speaker 8>is that accept the tone for the room and just

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<v Speaker 8>in the way that it set the tone at the

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<v Speaker 8>at the rally in Butler, people often comment like, look,

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<v Speaker 8>how calm the crowd is. Where aren't they freaking out?

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<v Speaker 4>You know?

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<v Speaker 8>And when he did what he did in Butler, when

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<v Speaker 8>he got off and said fight by fight, when he

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<v Speaker 8>made sure he had his shoes on when he left,

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<v Speaker 8>when he made sure he didn't go out in a stretcher.

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<v Speaker 8>He told me the next day that was because he

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<v Speaker 8>had an obligation, not as Donald Trump the man, but

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<v Speaker 8>as someone who is representing the presidency for over two

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<v Speaker 8>hundred years. He had to show that the country goes on,

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<v Speaker 8>that the country is strong, that nothing breaks us down.

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<v Speaker 8>That was his obligation and I saw that again on

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<v Speaker 8>Saturday night.

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<v Speaker 3>Selena, as you watch what happened Saturday, I'm curious about

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<v Speaker 3>what you're thinking regarding the Secret Service and the security

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<v Speaker 3>situation with the president at an event like that. You

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<v Speaker 3>obviously studied the Secret Service perimeter and reaction to what

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<v Speaker 3>happened in Butler. You saw what happened on Saturday. You've

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<v Speaker 3>been to many other presidential events. I guess the question

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<v Speaker 3>I have is are you confident in the security situation

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<v Speaker 3>around the president right now? And is this just something

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<v Speaker 3>that he's going to have to live with because of

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<v Speaker 3>who he is, and how the left has decided to

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<v Speaker 3>treat him.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, I'm confident in their response in the room. I

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<v Speaker 8>thought they were quick, they were fast, They're efficient. They

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<v Speaker 8>got him out of the way. A lot of they

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<v Speaker 8>got the vice president out of the way. A lot

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<v Speaker 8>of people have not seen the angle where one serviceman

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<v Speaker 8>just stood right in front of him, right like, just

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<v Speaker 8>faced out into the crowd, while the other ones made

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<v Speaker 8>sure that he was down and out. So I think

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<v Speaker 8>that that aspect of the service was on top of things.

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<v Speaker 8>I don't know enough about what happened in the perimeter

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<v Speaker 8>of her in a dotal, you know, a pe of

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<v Speaker 8>journalists saying, well, I got in this way and I

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<v Speaker 8>got in that way, and so I don't know enough

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<v Speaker 8>about that to make an educated point of view. I

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<v Speaker 8>certainly I'm sort of like a wait and see person.

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<v Speaker 8>I wanted to see the reports, see what happened where

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<v Speaker 8>the flaws were just in the way of what happened

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<v Speaker 8>in Butler. If you were if you were standing within

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<v Speaker 8>feet of the president in Butler, like I was, the

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<v Speaker 8>response was perfect, but getting into it and the security

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<v Speaker 8>around it was not perfect. And I suspect that we

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<v Speaker 8>might find out something like that as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Selena Zito is our guest. She wrote the book on Butler.

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<v Speaker 3>She's a great journalist and lives in Pennsylvania. Selena, as

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<v Speaker 3>I was thinking about the dinner Saturday night during our coverage,

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<v Speaker 3>I was thinking, you know, the entire president line of

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<v Speaker 3>succession is there, with the exception of Chuck Grassley, the

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<v Speaker 3>Senate President pro tem from Iowa.

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<v Speaker 1>But you had the.

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<v Speaker 3>President, vice president, Speaker of the House, senior members of

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<v Speaker 3>the cabinet. Does the White House need to rethink having

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<v Speaker 3>Trump in vance at public events like that together in

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<v Speaker 3>the future.

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<v Speaker 10>Probably.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm sure they're having that conversation right now or you know,

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<v Speaker 8>in the next couple hours, in the next couple of days.

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<v Speaker 8>It's it is. It is a sad statement of the

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<v Speaker 8>world that we live in. You know. I used to say,

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<v Speaker 8>I used to think that it was worse when I

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<v Speaker 8>was young, because I'm old enough to have experienced John

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<v Speaker 8>Kennedy being shot and Robert Kennedy and Gerald Ford and

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<v Speaker 8>Ronald Reagan right to think this is cyclic. But now

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<v Speaker 8>three attempts on one man. And I had to say

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<v Speaker 8>this because I think this is so important, and sometimes

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<v Speaker 8>I hold back and being critical, but honestly, I'm not

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<v Speaker 8>going to anymore. I think it's awful when you have

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<v Speaker 8>elected officials, just like happened in Pittsburgh a couple of

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<v Speaker 8>weeks ago, when there was a No King's rally and

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<v Speaker 8>there's all these like eighty six forty, you know, like

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<v Speaker 8>to kill Trump and talk about killing him and dehumanizing him,

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<v Speaker 8>and these local Democrats go in front of these crowds

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<v Speaker 8>and and you know, Rob raw and then psyche him

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<v Speaker 8>up and never ever once say you shouldn't do that.

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<v Speaker 8>What I saw in that crowd behind me that shouldn't happen.

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<v Speaker 8>They don't. And this is incredibly dangerous because I don't

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<v Speaker 8>know what the mental state was of this young man

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<v Speaker 8>that did this, but I do know that if you

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<v Speaker 8>look at that manifest it may as well been written

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<v Speaker 8>from something that was on on social media or came

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<v Speaker 8>from a Democratic elected official. I'm not quite sure that

0:26:05.000 --> 0:26:08.800
<v Speaker 8>he was mentally unstable. I'm thinking that he thinks he's

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<v Speaker 8>doing something righteous, and that's even more scary.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, no, no question about it.

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<v Speaker 3>If you look at his writings, I mean, the things

0:26:16.880 --> 0:26:20.679
<v Speaker 3>he's writing about, they weren't really unhinged or you know,

0:26:20.800 --> 0:26:23.760
<v Speaker 3>rantings They were basically cut and pasted from anything you

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<v Speaker 3>could get off of some people's ex accounts, off of Reddit,

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<v Speaker 3>what you might hear on a cable TV panel. I

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<v Speaker 3>mean he's literally or from a member of Congress who routinely.

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<v Speaker 1>Calls Donald Trump Hitler or some such.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, he's ingesting this, he's marinating in it, he's

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<v Speaker 3>reflecting it back in his writings, and then all of

0:26:41.400 --> 0:26:44.480
<v Speaker 3>a sudden, he shows up with a shotgun. Caroline Levitt,

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<v Speaker 3>the White House Press Secretary, just stepped off the podium.

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<v Speaker 1>We have some sound from Matt. Let's hear from her

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<v Speaker 1>and cut number twenty three.

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<v Speaker 11>Saturday was supposed to be a joyful evening celebrating free

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<v Speaker 11>speech in the First Amendment with all of you members

0:26:57.760 --> 0:27:01.399
<v Speaker 11>of the press. Instead, the night was hijacked by a

0:27:01.520 --> 0:27:06.000
<v Speaker 11>crazed anti Trump individual who traveled across the country to

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<v Speaker 11>assassinate the President and as many administration officials as possible.

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<v Speaker 11>This is the third major assassination attempt against President Trump

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<v Speaker 11>in two years. No other president in history has faced

0:27:19.080 --> 0:27:23.800
<v Speaker 11>such repeated serious attempts on his life. First, and foremost,

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<v Speaker 11>the President, the first Lady, and everyone in this White

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<v Speaker 11>House are extraordinarily grateful to the brave law enforcement professionals

0:27:31.840 --> 0:27:34.840
<v Speaker 11>who sprang into action to apprehend the would be assassin

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<v Speaker 11>and keep all of us safe. The President would especially

0:27:38.600 --> 0:27:40.960
<v Speaker 11>like to express his gratitude to the men and women

0:27:41.040 --> 0:27:43.920
<v Speaker 11>of the United States Secret Service, who acted with the

0:27:44.080 --> 0:27:47.560
<v Speaker 11>utmost professionalism, courage, and sense of duty.

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<v Speaker 3>It's White House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt and we are

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<v Speaker 3>speaking with Selina Zito, journalist who wrote the book Butler,

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<v Speaker 3>about the President's assassination attempt there during the twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 3>four campaign. And Selena, as you listen to the White

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<v Speaker 3>House Press secretary, I'm interested in because of your reporting

0:28:05.280 --> 0:28:09.720
<v Speaker 3>and your extensive writing about this, the president's personal relationship

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<v Speaker 3>with the Secret Service.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, obviously he has a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>Of respect for and obviously a lot of thankfulness for

0:28:17.880 --> 0:28:20.359
<v Speaker 3>what they do to protect him because of the threats

0:28:20.400 --> 0:28:23.000
<v Speaker 3>that he has and faces it on a daily basis.

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<v Speaker 3>What can you tell us about that personal relationship between

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<v Speaker 3>the Trump's President, Milania, the Trump family and their protective detail.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, I've never heard anything the President nor anybody that's

0:28:38.200 --> 0:28:41.160
<v Speaker 8>been in charge of them trying to have anything had

0:28:41.200 --> 0:28:42.200
<v Speaker 8>to say about them.

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<v Speaker 9>They have a deep respect, mutual respect, for each other

0:28:48.360 --> 0:28:53.520
<v Speaker 9>that've developed a warm relationship between each other.

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<v Speaker 8>And it's very sort of different than what you saw

0:28:57.320 --> 0:29:01.640
<v Speaker 8>with the Clintons and their secret Service detail. And with

0:29:01.680 --> 0:29:05.840
<v Speaker 8>the Obamas, and there was their secret service detail, there

0:29:05.960 --> 0:29:11.120
<v Speaker 8>was sort of a coolness in an arms length body

0:29:11.240 --> 0:29:15.320
<v Speaker 8>language that went between them, and you can just go

0:29:15.400 --> 0:29:19.720
<v Speaker 8>back and look at pictures and see that. But I

0:29:19.840 --> 0:29:23.600
<v Speaker 8>have been around the President in the White House on

0:29:23.640 --> 0:29:28.840
<v Speaker 8>the road of even been in the Beasts, and there

0:29:28.920 --> 0:29:32.680
<v Speaker 8>is a rapport and a respect and an admiration that

0:29:32.800 --> 0:29:37.959
<v Speaker 8>goes across both him and the agents at Urfaim.

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<v Speaker 3>Selena Zito wrote the book Butler. She was in Butler, Pennsylvania,

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<v Speaker 3>in the summer of twenty twenty four when the President

0:29:46.400 --> 0:29:50.280
<v Speaker 3>was nearly assassinated. I encourage you if you haven't read

0:29:50.320 --> 0:29:53.640
<v Speaker 3>Selena's account of being there and her reporting on the

0:29:53.720 --> 0:29:57.120
<v Speaker 3>aftermath of what happened in Butler. I cannot recommend it

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<v Speaker 3>highly enough.

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<v Speaker 1>Selena. We wait for the movie.

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<v Speaker 3>I know the movie rights soul of this book, and

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<v Speaker 3>we wait to see how that turns out.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're grateful for your time today. Thanks for coming

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<v Speaker 1>on the show.

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<v Speaker 8>Oh, thank you so much. It's tim production now, so Yeah,

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<v Speaker 8>that'd be great.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you so much, Thank you, Selena, Selena Zito. Boy,

0:30:15.720 --> 0:30:18.000
<v Speaker 3>if you need to follow somebody and understand what's.

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<v Speaker 1>Going on in Middle America and our American political affairs,

0:30:21.320 --> 0:30:23.479
<v Speaker 1>Selena Zito is one to follow.

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<v Speaker 3>like Esther. Visit supportif CJ dot org. That is SUPPORTIFCJ

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<v Speaker 3>dot org. Seeing in legal analyst Elliott Williams is up

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<v Speaker 3>next on the charges against Saturday shooters.

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<v Speaker 1>Stay with us.

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<v Speaker 12>It's the very definition I've never backed down here, Scott Jennings.

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<v Speaker 3>In the next hour, the man who shot up the

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<v Speaker 3>White House correspondence dinner on Saturday night is expected in

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<v Speaker 3>federal court in Washington, d C. Joining us to discuss

0:31:40.520 --> 0:31:44.520
<v Speaker 3>the charges that he faces presently and could face over

0:31:44.520 --> 0:31:48.040
<v Speaker 3>the next few days. My friend CNN legal analyst and

0:31:48.160 --> 0:31:52.920
<v Speaker 3>former federal prosecutor Elliott Williams. Elliott, thanks for your time today.

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<v Speaker 3>So let's start here. The man's name is Cole Thomas Allen.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not really in question whether he did it. It's

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<v Speaker 3>on video when the police subdued him in the seconds

0:32:02.720 --> 0:32:06.160
<v Speaker 3>after he rushed into the event. What are the charges

0:32:06.200 --> 0:32:08.480
<v Speaker 3>he faces now and what are you expecting to hear

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<v Speaker 3>at this hearing today?

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<v Speaker 6>Right so, right now, Scott, it looks like he's going

0:32:13.360 --> 0:32:17.520
<v Speaker 6>to face charges of using a firearm during the commission

0:32:17.840 --> 0:32:21.240
<v Speaker 6>of a crime of violence, pretty common charge, and assaulting

0:32:21.240 --> 0:32:24.920
<v Speaker 6>a federal officer for shooting at an officer. Now, yeah,

0:32:25.160 --> 0:32:27.360
<v Speaker 6>you know, it seems pretty obvious that he did it.

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<v Speaker 6>You saw the video. I saw the video. Everybody in

0:32:29.520 --> 0:32:32.520
<v Speaker 6>America saw the video. But really, prosecutors can only move

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<v Speaker 6>forward with what they have and they can prove beyond

0:32:35.400 --> 0:32:39.480
<v Speaker 6>reasonable doubt right now. Right more evidence is I think

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<v Speaker 6>absolutely going to come out over time for additional charges

0:32:42.720 --> 0:32:44.400
<v Speaker 6>he can face, but right now it's just those two.

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<v Speaker 6>It's the use of a gun during a crime of

0:32:46.120 --> 0:32:48.600
<v Speaker 6>violence and that assault against an officer.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess what everybody's wondering Elliott is based on the

0:32:52.480 --> 0:32:55.240
<v Speaker 3>evidence that emerges, and we're already seeing some things in

0:32:55.280 --> 0:32:58.400
<v Speaker 3>his writings and his political leanings, but based on whatever

0:32:58.400 --> 0:33:01.080
<v Speaker 3>comes out, is it possible that he will be charged

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<v Speaker 3>with trying to assassinate the president or members of the

0:33:04.080 --> 0:33:05.120
<v Speaker 3>president's cabinet.

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<v Speaker 6>Absolutely, I think it's absolutely possible. But I think everybody

0:33:09.520 --> 0:33:12.040
<v Speaker 6>needs to take a breath and just remember that because

0:33:12.080 --> 0:33:16.560
<v Speaker 6>something's been reported, whether it's on social media or any network,

0:33:16.600 --> 0:33:20.120
<v Speaker 6>whether it's CNN or the Scott Jennings Show, anywhere, it's

0:33:20.160 --> 0:33:23.800
<v Speaker 6>still not official until prosecutors have it, have reviewed it

0:33:23.880 --> 0:33:25.880
<v Speaker 6>and vetted it, and they can charge someone with it,

0:33:25.920 --> 0:33:28.160
<v Speaker 6>and they can go into court and prove something beyond

0:33:28.200 --> 0:33:30.920
<v Speaker 6>a reasonable doubt. Like, Yeah, it seems pretty obvious that

0:33:30.960 --> 0:33:32.760
<v Speaker 6>this guy was there to kill the president. When you

0:33:32.800 --> 0:33:34.640
<v Speaker 6>show up with a long gun at the White House

0:33:34.640 --> 0:33:38.720
<v Speaker 6>correspondence dinner as a gut feeling, that seems like it

0:33:38.760 --> 0:33:40.680
<v Speaker 6>makes total sense. The problem is that you can't prosecute

0:33:40.720 --> 0:33:43.440
<v Speaker 6>someone on gut feelings. Prosecutors have to have it. The

0:33:43.520 --> 0:33:45.680
<v Speaker 6>FBI has to happen, and I'm confident that they're trying

0:33:45.720 --> 0:33:49.040
<v Speaker 6>to get there. But just right now, it's not common

0:33:49.080 --> 0:33:51.880
<v Speaker 6>to go in on that very first arraignment to charge

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<v Speaker 6>him with just a few offenses and then add them

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<v Speaker 6>later on.

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<v Speaker 3>Hellyet, a couple of questions about the defendant here A

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<v Speaker 3>have you heard about whether he's co operating with federal

0:34:01.680 --> 0:34:06.640
<v Speaker 3>prosecutors or federal investigators on any information about what he

0:34:06.760 --> 0:34:09.239
<v Speaker 3>was doing Saturday? And be do you know who is

0:34:09.280 --> 0:34:11.680
<v Speaker 3>representing him? Does he have an attorney yet or is

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<v Speaker 3>he using a public defender.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know the answer to the second question what

0:34:16.080 --> 0:34:16.960
<v Speaker 6>his representation is.

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<v Speaker 8>Now.

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<v Speaker 6>I've heard a number of times he's not quote unquote

0:34:19.760 --> 0:34:22.279
<v Speaker 6>cooperating with law enforcement. You got to remember he's not

0:34:22.719 --> 0:34:25.640
<v Speaker 6>obligated to cooperate with law enforcement. You've heard the words,

0:34:25.960 --> 0:34:28.880
<v Speaker 6>you have the right to remain silent from every copture

0:34:28.920 --> 0:34:31.120
<v Speaker 6>you've ever watched throughout your life. He doesn't have to

0:34:31.160 --> 0:34:35.960
<v Speaker 6>cooperate and doesn't have to testify against other people that

0:34:36.040 --> 0:34:39.279
<v Speaker 6>might have worked with himber whatever else. And it's his right,

0:34:39.920 --> 0:34:41.840
<v Speaker 6>is his constitutional right to not say anything. And I

0:34:41.880 --> 0:34:43.880
<v Speaker 6>would even go further and say, if people want this

0:34:43.960 --> 0:34:47.960
<v Speaker 6>guy to go to jail, you know, let him exercise

0:34:48.080 --> 0:34:51.200
<v Speaker 6>his rights now so that nothing screws the case up.

0:34:51.560 --> 0:34:54.520
<v Speaker 6>You want a clean prosecution where you know, no right

0:34:54.640 --> 0:34:57.360
<v Speaker 6>that he might have had get stepped on or in

0:34:57.400 --> 0:34:59.359
<v Speaker 6>the way of by prosecutors. So yeah, if he wants

0:34:59.400 --> 0:35:01.799
<v Speaker 6>to not cooperate, let him not cooperate. You see you

0:35:01.840 --> 0:35:04.200
<v Speaker 6>in court, see you at trial, and then he can

0:35:04.239 --> 0:35:06.440
<v Speaker 6>have his day then. But it's perfectly valid for him

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<v Speaker 6>not to be cooperated with law enforcement.

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<v Speaker 3>Checking the monitor here, Elliott, we're talking with Elliott Williams,

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<v Speaker 3>cing INN legal analyst, And according to the screen, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>looking at CNN reporting that the suspect here is being

0:35:19.800 --> 0:35:22.960
<v Speaker 3>arraigned in federal court in Washington, d C.

0:35:23.880 --> 0:35:24.520
<v Speaker 1>Right now.

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<v Speaker 3>So that is occurring as we speak, Elliot, as we

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<v Speaker 3>wrap up our conversation, two questions for you on the

0:35:30.520 --> 0:35:33.480
<v Speaker 3>process here. A, based on what you know today and

0:35:33.520 --> 0:35:36.640
<v Speaker 3>I know it's early, is it likely based on current

0:35:36.719 --> 0:35:40.640
<v Speaker 3>charges or additional charges that could be tacked on, that

0:35:40.719 --> 0:35:42.600
<v Speaker 3>he could face the death penalty?

0:35:42.719 --> 0:35:44.719
<v Speaker 1>And B how long would you.

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<v Speaker 3>Expect a case like this to take to get to

0:35:47.400 --> 0:35:49.319
<v Speaker 3>some kind of resolution If in fact it does go

0:35:49.360 --> 0:35:51.320
<v Speaker 3>to trial, he's.

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<v Speaker 6>Not going to face the death penalty only because even

0:35:54.600 --> 0:35:58.640
<v Speaker 6>for the attempt, the statutes here allow for life in

0:35:58.680 --> 0:36:02.120
<v Speaker 6>prison but not death under federal law. He would need

0:36:02.160 --> 0:36:04.680
<v Speaker 6>to have killed someone in order to get the death comly,

0:36:04.719 --> 0:36:06.440
<v Speaker 6>but he could face life in prison. And he actually

0:36:06.480 --> 0:36:10.600
<v Speaker 6>has a few different life life charges, both begun charge

0:36:10.680 --> 0:36:13.400
<v Speaker 6>and if he's ultimately charged with trying to assassinate the president,

0:36:14.040 --> 0:36:17.239
<v Speaker 6>so he could go away for a very very long time.

0:36:18.400 --> 0:36:21.560
<v Speaker 3>Elliott Williams is a former federal prosecutor and he is

0:36:21.560 --> 0:36:23.960
<v Speaker 3>one of the great CNN legal analysts. You see him

0:36:23.960 --> 0:36:27.319
<v Speaker 3>across the shows analyzing the legal news of the day,

0:36:27.360 --> 0:36:29.759
<v Speaker 3>and he's a good friend here. Elliott, thanks for your

0:36:29.760 --> 0:36:32.600
<v Speaker 3>time today. I'm keeping an eye on CNN as we

0:36:32.719 --> 0:36:36.120
<v Speaker 3>do the broadcast, and it looks like Cole Thomas Allen

0:36:36.200 --> 0:36:39.799
<v Speaker 3>will be arraigned in federal court here. Over the next

0:36:39.800 --> 0:36:41.719
<v Speaker 3>few minutes, we're going to take a break here on

0:36:41.719 --> 0:36:43.960
<v Speaker 3>the Scott Jennings Show. When we come back, we got

0:36:44.000 --> 0:36:47.759
<v Speaker 3>to talk to Jonathan Turley, another legal expert. Next hour,

0:36:47.800 --> 0:36:49.840
<v Speaker 3>we got to talk about what's going on in Congress

0:36:49.880 --> 0:36:52.360
<v Speaker 3>this week, which is not in substantial. Beth Vandyne of

0:36:52.400 --> 0:36:55.680
<v Speaker 3>Texas will join us all of that right after this Monday,

0:36:55.760 --> 0:36:58.720
<v Speaker 3>April the twenty seventh. We start with a quick check

0:36:58.800 --> 0:37:03.560
<v Speaker 3>of the headlines. Florida Republican Governor Ron DeSantis today has

0:37:03.640 --> 0:37:08.920
<v Speaker 3>released a proposed redraw of the Sunshine States congressional map

0:37:09.040 --> 0:37:12.759
<v Speaker 3>that on paper, would create four new Republican seats. We're

0:37:12.760 --> 0:37:15.120
<v Speaker 3>going to cover that story on the show a little

0:37:15.120 --> 0:37:18.239
<v Speaker 3>bit more tomorrow. And there's been some movement in Virginia

0:37:18.680 --> 0:37:22.960
<v Speaker 3>on the case against the new jerrymanderd map in Virginia.

0:37:23.080 --> 0:37:26.400
<v Speaker 3>Kin Coochinelli, former Virginia Attorney General, joins us later this

0:37:26.520 --> 0:37:29.240
<v Speaker 3>hour to discuss the latest on the legal case against

0:37:29.600 --> 0:37:31.759
<v Speaker 3>that new map, which would go from six to five

0:37:31.840 --> 0:37:36.600
<v Speaker 3>Democrat to ten to one Democrat. White House Correspondence dinner

0:37:36.719 --> 0:37:41.160
<v Speaker 3>shooting suspect Cole Thomas Allen being arraigned this hour in

0:37:41.280 --> 0:37:44.960
<v Speaker 3>federal District Court in Washington, and in breaking news this

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<v Speaker 3>just end of the Scott Jennings Show, Cole Thomas Allen

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<v Speaker 3>has now been charged with attempting to assassinate President Trump.

0:37:53.280 --> 0:37:56.360
<v Speaker 3>In addition to the other charges that we already knew about.

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<v Speaker 1>This new assassination.

0:37:58.200 --> 0:38:02.520
<v Speaker 3>Charge would carry a possible sentence of life in prison.

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<v Speaker 3>Just a little while ago, White House Press Secretary Caroline

0:38:06.000 --> 0:38:08.960
<v Speaker 3>Levitt took to the podium there in the briefing room.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's hear from her and cut number twenty four.

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<v Speaker 11>And while we are blessed to have a fearless president,

0:38:14.360 --> 0:38:17.440
<v Speaker 11>we should not live in a country where such constant

0:38:17.560 --> 0:38:22.200
<v Speaker 11>fear of political violence permeates our society every single day.

0:38:22.880 --> 0:38:26.840
<v Speaker 11>We can, and we should have fierce disagreement in this country.

0:38:27.239 --> 0:38:30.239
<v Speaker 11>As you all know, we disagree often myself in this role,

0:38:30.280 --> 0:38:32.359
<v Speaker 11>in all of you in the news media. But those

0:38:32.400 --> 0:38:38.080
<v Speaker 11>disagreements must remain peaceful. Debating, peaceful, protesting and voting are

0:38:38.120 --> 0:38:42.239
<v Speaker 11>how we need to settle disagreements, not bullets. Nobody in

0:38:42.320 --> 0:38:45.799
<v Speaker 11>recent years has faced more bullets and more violence than

0:38:45.880 --> 0:38:50.640
<v Speaker 11>President Trump. This political violence stems from a systemic demonization

0:38:50.800 --> 0:38:55.080
<v Speaker 11>of him and his supporters by commentators. Yes, by elected

0:38:55.120 --> 0:38:59.960
<v Speaker 11>members of the Democrat Party and even some in the media.

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<v Speaker 3>Sunday night, the President appeared on sixty Minutes and he

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<v Speaker 3>was asked about the security provided by the Secret Service.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's what the President had to say and cut number five.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, I could take any event having to do

0:39:12.239 --> 0:39:15.080
<v Speaker 7>with security or anything else, I can always find fault.

0:39:15.280 --> 0:39:18.000
<v Speaker 7>Those guys did a good job last night. They did

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<v Speaker 7>a really good job.

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<v Speaker 3>We're now joined by At Smith, former Deputy Director of

0:39:23.120 --> 0:39:26.400
<v Speaker 3>the United States Secret Service, to discuss the security questions

0:39:26.760 --> 0:39:29.800
<v Speaker 3>that have arisen since Saturday night. We'll start here. Mister Smith,

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<v Speaker 3>thanks for your time today. Do you agree with the president?

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<v Speaker 3>Did the Secret Service perform admirably on Saturday night?

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<v Speaker 7>Yes?

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<v Speaker 12>They did. Actually, they did a wonderful job in terms

0:39:41.400 --> 0:39:45.440
<v Speaker 12>of covering and evacuating the President first lady, you know,

0:39:45.520 --> 0:39:48.359
<v Speaker 12>and the Vice President, as well as the other protectees

0:39:48.400 --> 0:39:52.520
<v Speaker 12>that were there. The security plan obviously worked. You are

0:39:52.560 --> 0:39:56.120
<v Speaker 12>never planning for an assailant such as the event the

0:39:56.160 --> 0:39:59.320
<v Speaker 12>other night occurred. But at the same time, you know,

0:39:59.360 --> 0:40:02.799
<v Speaker 12>people should keep in mind that as bad as that was,

0:40:03.520 --> 0:40:06.120
<v Speaker 12>the individual was stopped and the Secret Service was able

0:40:06.160 --> 0:40:07.880
<v Speaker 12>to do that before he made his way into the

0:40:07.880 --> 0:40:13.160
<v Speaker 12>ballroom and likewise everyone inside, you know, remained safe, albeit

0:40:13.960 --> 0:40:15.640
<v Speaker 12>it was disrupted to say the least.

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<v Speaker 3>Mister Smith, I have a question about this venue, the

0:40:19.320 --> 0:40:22.560
<v Speaker 3>Washington Hilton. Obviously they have this dinner there every year.

0:40:23.160 --> 0:40:25.640
<v Speaker 3>How nervous does this building make you? I assume you

0:40:25.719 --> 0:40:29.400
<v Speaker 3>covered and serviced events that were at the Washington Hilton.

0:40:29.520 --> 0:40:30.560
<v Speaker 1>It's a public hotel.

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<v Speaker 3>There are people that rent rooms there that have nothing

0:40:32.920 --> 0:40:35.960
<v Speaker 3>to do with that dinner that took place on Saturday night.

0:40:36.040 --> 0:40:39.120
<v Speaker 3>How should we be thinking about this venue and venues

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<v Speaker 3>like it for presidential security moving forward?

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<v Speaker 12>Well, it's certainly problematic, and the Washington Hilton is probably

0:40:47.120 --> 0:40:50.279
<v Speaker 12>as problematic a hotel as you will find because of

0:40:50.320 --> 0:40:53.120
<v Speaker 12>the way it's situated, and as you probably know, you

0:40:53.200 --> 0:40:55.480
<v Speaker 12>have to go in and the way that this ticketing

0:40:55.520 --> 0:40:59.320
<v Speaker 12>worked for this event. You went past the red carpet

0:40:59.320 --> 0:41:01.279
<v Speaker 12>and the ticket check point on one level, and then

0:41:01.280 --> 0:41:04.080
<v Speaker 12>you move down to go through the magnetometers, and then

0:41:04.120 --> 0:41:07.880
<v Speaker 12>the ballroom is really below ground almost so it is

0:41:08.080 --> 0:41:11.239
<v Speaker 12>very challenging. And at the same time, the Hilton is

0:41:11.280 --> 0:41:14.440
<v Speaker 12>doing business as a public business, and people that are

0:41:14.480 --> 0:41:16.400
<v Speaker 12>guests there, as you said, that have nothing to do

0:41:16.480 --> 0:41:19.000
<v Speaker 12>with the event are coming and going, and so the

0:41:19.000 --> 0:41:22.960
<v Speaker 12>Secret Service has to approach all of that in the

0:41:23.080 --> 0:41:26.160
<v Speaker 12>advance work to make sure they're not impeding the public

0:41:26.200 --> 0:41:29.400
<v Speaker 12>anymore than you know is absolutely necessary, and by the

0:41:29.440 --> 0:41:33.960
<v Speaker 12>same token, trying to provide adequate security and an adequate

0:41:34.000 --> 0:41:37.120
<v Speaker 12>security plan to keep those that are attending this event

0:41:37.719 --> 0:41:42.960
<v Speaker 12>safe and none is probably more involved than this event

0:41:43.080 --> 0:41:45.120
<v Speaker 12>because of the fact that you had the President, the

0:41:45.120 --> 0:41:47.919
<v Speaker 12>first Lady, the Vice President, as I said, numerous other

0:41:48.440 --> 0:41:49.840
<v Speaker 12>protectees and attendance.

0:41:51.200 --> 0:41:53.640
<v Speaker 3>At Smith is a former deputy director of the United

0:41:53.680 --> 0:41:56.400
<v Speaker 3>States Secret Service. We're talking to him about what happened

0:41:56.400 --> 0:42:00.000
<v Speaker 3>at the White House correspondence dinner on Saturday night. Mister Smith,

0:42:00.120 --> 0:42:03.080
<v Speaker 3>let's listen to another cut of President Trump from sixty

0:42:03.120 --> 0:42:04.719
<v Speaker 3>minutes talking about the ballroom.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's cut number six.

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<v Speaker 7>So, first of all, I have to say, it's not

0:42:09.360 --> 0:42:13.520
<v Speaker 7>a safe ballroom. I'm building a safe ballroom, and one

0:42:13.520 --> 0:42:16.440
<v Speaker 7>of the reasons I'm building it is exactly what happened

0:42:16.640 --> 0:42:20.560
<v Speaker 7>last night. We're building a room right there. If you

0:42:20.600 --> 0:42:23.560
<v Speaker 7>walk out and move twenty yards to the left, you'll

0:42:23.600 --> 0:42:26.200
<v Speaker 7>be right at the entrance to the ballroom. And that

0:42:26.320 --> 0:42:28.720
<v Speaker 7>ballroom is being built on the safest piece of property

0:42:28.760 --> 0:42:31.279
<v Speaker 7>in this country, probably one of the safest pieces of

0:42:31.800 --> 0:42:33.840
<v Speaker 7>land in the world, and we have.

0:42:34.520 --> 0:42:36.520
<v Speaker 5>But that's owned, that's the White House.

0:42:36.520 --> 0:42:38.919
<v Speaker 8>The White House Correspondence Center can't use White House.

0:42:38.960 --> 0:42:41.919
<v Speaker 7>It's able to be used by certainly the White House,

0:42:41.960 --> 0:42:44.319
<v Speaker 7>it says the White House Correspondents. Well, that's the White

0:42:44.320 --> 0:42:46.879
<v Speaker 7>House Press. I'm sure that it's available. You know, it's

0:42:46.960 --> 0:42:49.680
<v Speaker 7>up to the president, but that would be made available.

0:42:50.320 --> 0:42:53.120
<v Speaker 7>And this has bulletproof glass. This says, you know, this

0:42:53.200 --> 0:42:55.080
<v Speaker 7>is the highest level of security.

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<v Speaker 3>If as someone who's been in a position of protecting

0:43:00.080 --> 0:43:02.160
<v Speaker 3>a president of the United States, what do you think

0:43:02.160 --> 0:43:06.719
<v Speaker 3>about this? Do we need a fully secure ballroom in Washington, DC,

0:43:06.960 --> 0:43:10.000
<v Speaker 3>as the President proposes for events like what we saw

0:43:10.040 --> 0:43:10.799
<v Speaker 3>on Saturday night?

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<v Speaker 12>Well, I know the ballroom itself as a political issue

0:43:15.200 --> 0:43:17.919
<v Speaker 12>that goes back and forth. But the President's exactly right.

0:43:18.080 --> 0:43:21.279
<v Speaker 12>I mean, any event held on the White House complex

0:43:21.800 --> 0:43:24.960
<v Speaker 12>is going to be safe and secure, and to his point,

0:43:25.000 --> 0:43:27.759
<v Speaker 12>it would probably be the most secure place in the

0:43:27.800 --> 0:43:30.160
<v Speaker 12>world to hold an event. So he's exactly right on

0:43:30.160 --> 0:43:30.640
<v Speaker 12>that level.

0:43:31.719 --> 0:43:33.600
<v Speaker 3>Mister Smith, I want to ask you about who was

0:43:33.640 --> 0:43:36.279
<v Speaker 3>in the room. I was doing coverage on CNN, and

0:43:36.320 --> 0:43:38.440
<v Speaker 3>I'm looking in the room. There you've got the President,

0:43:38.640 --> 0:43:41.800
<v Speaker 3>the Vice president, the Speaker of the House, senior members

0:43:41.840 --> 0:43:44.839
<v Speaker 3>of the cabinet. The only member of the presidential line

0:43:44.840 --> 0:43:47.279
<v Speaker 3>of succession that was not in there, I think was

0:43:47.360 --> 0:43:51.160
<v Speaker 3>Iowa was Chuck Grassley, the Senate President pro tem. As

0:43:51.200 --> 0:43:54.360
<v Speaker 3>a Secret Service agent, as someone in a leadership position

0:43:54.400 --> 0:43:57.839
<v Speaker 3>at the Secret Service, do they think about things like that,

0:43:57.880 --> 0:44:01.160
<v Speaker 3>the entire line of succession being in the same place

0:44:01.200 --> 0:44:02.440
<v Speaker 3>at the same time, And do they.

0:44:02.400 --> 0:44:04.600
<v Speaker 1>Ever offer advice to the White House.

0:44:04.560 --> 0:44:07.040
<v Speaker 3>You know, things like, hey, maybe we ought to rethink

0:44:07.080 --> 0:44:09.200
<v Speaker 3>having all these people in the same location.

0:44:10.960 --> 0:44:13.520
<v Speaker 12>Well, that's something they should do. And you know, again

0:44:13.640 --> 0:44:18.080
<v Speaker 12>that's normally an administration decision. I know, for instance, as

0:44:18.120 --> 0:44:19.839
<v Speaker 12>you know with the state of the Union, they leave

0:44:19.920 --> 0:44:22.880
<v Speaker 12>one member of the cabinet out just in case of

0:44:22.920 --> 0:44:25.880
<v Speaker 12>a catastrophic event. But that's part of the role of

0:44:25.920 --> 0:44:29.719
<v Speaker 12>the Secret Services too. They advise the administration on security

0:44:29.760 --> 0:44:32.560
<v Speaker 12>related matters, things that they may not be thinking of

0:44:32.640 --> 0:44:36.520
<v Speaker 12>on a daily basis. So, yes, that is certainly an

0:44:36.560 --> 0:44:40.200
<v Speaker 12>area that the Secret Service should you know, be at

0:44:40.280 --> 0:44:43.799
<v Speaker 12>least forceful in in terms of making it known. Now,

0:44:43.880 --> 0:44:46.640
<v Speaker 12>ultimately they be in the administration will make a decision

0:44:46.680 --> 0:44:50.520
<v Speaker 12>about whether they want to follow that advice or have

0:44:50.640 --> 0:44:54.360
<v Speaker 12>everyone there. But quite frankly, yeah, that is part of

0:44:54.400 --> 0:44:57.080
<v Speaker 12>the apparatus of the Secret Service to go ahead and

0:44:57.080 --> 0:45:00.279
<v Speaker 12>discuss these measures and bring up things like that that

0:45:01.120 --> 0:45:03.799
<v Speaker 12>not only could potentially cause a problem, but you know,

0:45:03.880 --> 0:45:05.240
<v Speaker 12>serve as a level of advice.

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<v Speaker 3>Final question for you, mister Smith, after Butler, after Saturday night,

0:45:10.280 --> 0:45:13.360
<v Speaker 3>and after the Secret Service, which exists in the Department

0:45:13.400 --> 0:45:17.320
<v Speaker 3>of Homeland Security being treated like something of a political football,

0:45:17.440 --> 0:45:20.640
<v Speaker 3>especially by the Democrats in Washington as it relates to funding.

0:45:21.080 --> 0:45:24.080
<v Speaker 3>What is in your opinion the current state the current

0:45:24.160 --> 0:45:25.640
<v Speaker 3>status of the Secret Service?

0:45:25.719 --> 0:45:27.840
<v Speaker 1>Is this agency in good shape?

0:45:27.920 --> 0:45:30.400
<v Speaker 3>And do you have any recommendations for it over the

0:45:30.400 --> 0:45:31.400
<v Speaker 3>next few months.

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<v Speaker 12>Well, I think the agency is in good standing. I

0:45:35.600 --> 0:45:38.160
<v Speaker 12>think the morale is good and I think that was

0:45:38.200 --> 0:45:41.799
<v Speaker 12>exemplified by how you saw those Secret Service agents and

0:45:41.840 --> 0:45:45.920
<v Speaker 12>officers react on Saturday night. They did their job. You know,

0:45:46.000 --> 0:45:48.840
<v Speaker 12>as to the political aspect of it, they should be paid.

0:45:48.960 --> 0:45:51.160
<v Speaker 12>This should not be part of a political football back

0:45:51.200 --> 0:45:54.920
<v Speaker 12>and forth, you know, playing with not only their salaries

0:45:54.960 --> 0:45:57.400
<v Speaker 12>but their families' lives and things of that nature. So

0:45:57.440 --> 0:46:01.399
<v Speaker 12>they should definitely pay them. Said that, I think all

0:46:01.400 --> 0:46:05.160
<v Speaker 12>of the agents are dedicated regardless of whether they're being

0:46:05.200 --> 0:46:07.839
<v Speaker 12>paid or not. The fact that they showed up did

0:46:07.880 --> 0:46:10.520
<v Speaker 12>their job shows their left dedication.

0:46:11.000 --> 0:46:14.759
<v Speaker 3>At Smith former Secret Service Deputy Director, we thank you

0:46:14.880 --> 0:46:15.960
<v Speaker 3>very much for your time today.

0:46:16.000 --> 0:46:17.120
<v Speaker 1>We look forward to having you back.

0:46:18.200 --> 0:46:19.040
<v Speaker 12>Thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't miss it. When he's done.

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<v Speaker 8>The Oval Office are owning the libs on CNN.

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<v Speaker 3>One count attempting to assassinate the president, one count discharging

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<v Speaker 3>a firearm during a violent crime. And there's one other

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<v Speaker 3>charge that's being faced by Cole Thomas Allen, the shooter

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<v Speaker 3>from Saturday Night's Dinner. This is all just breaking right now.

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<v Speaker 3>He's being arraigned in federal court. We'll talk more about

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<v Speaker 3>that later in the show. Joining us now to talk

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<v Speaker 3>about what's going to happen in Congress this week. Congresswoman

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<v Speaker 3>Beth van Dine of Texas. She's on the House Ways

0:48:04.760 --> 0:48:06.960
<v Speaker 3>and Means Committee. Beth, thanks for coming back to the

0:48:07.000 --> 0:48:09.560
<v Speaker 3>Scott Jennings show. I want to start here if I

0:48:09.680 --> 0:48:12.000
<v Speaker 3>understand it correctly, you all are hauling a bunch of

0:48:12.120 --> 0:48:15.440
<v Speaker 3>hospital CEOs in front of Congress this week to discuss

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<v Speaker 3>healthcare affordability.

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<v Speaker 1>What can you tell us about that?

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<v Speaker 8>Well, look, I mean I think for far too always

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<v Speaker 8>seen these massive healthcare empires that have been able there

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<v Speaker 8>like basically rip off taxpayers. I mean they're hurting patients

0:48:27.960 --> 0:48:30.439
<v Speaker 8>and they're really squeezing a lot of money from hard

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<v Speaker 8>work in Americans. I think the healthcare lobby seeds to

0:48:32.880 --> 0:48:36.200
<v Speaker 8>stick together when there is a taxpayer check on the table,

0:48:36.600 --> 0:48:40.200
<v Speaker 8>but when you point fingers, they all start to bust.

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<v Speaker 8>The accountability, high costee all start to point to one another.

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<v Speaker 8>And last month we grolled from the biggest insurance company

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<v Speaker 8>CEOs early this year and they blend the hospital for

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<v Speaker 8>the rising costs. So on Tuesdays, we're bringing the hospital

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<v Speaker 8>CEOs before the Ways the Means Committee to kind of

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<v Speaker 8>answer for their role in the sky rocketing posts. They're

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<v Speaker 8>just seem to be crushing our work and families.

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<v Speaker 3>Beth, you all have a lot going on in Congress

0:49:02.360 --> 0:49:05.040
<v Speaker 3>right now. You've got this big hearing on healthcare. You've

0:49:05.080 --> 0:49:08.200
<v Speaker 3>got the FISA Section seven oh two issue going on,

0:49:08.920 --> 0:49:12.680
<v Speaker 3>You've got immigration enforcement funding with the reconciliation bill, You've

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<v Speaker 3>got the farm bill going on. It's a jam packed

0:49:16.160 --> 0:49:19.359
<v Speaker 3>time for the House Republican majority. Can you get all

0:49:19.400 --> 0:49:20.920
<v Speaker 3>this work done? How long is it going to take?

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<v Speaker 10>Well, yeah, we can.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, I think the House has biled a prow

0:49:24.480 --> 0:49:26.320
<v Speaker 8>that it can get a remarkable and undone and it

0:49:26.400 --> 0:49:29.200
<v Speaker 8>seems that it goes to the Senate to die. So yeah,

0:49:29.239 --> 0:49:30.719
<v Speaker 8>we've got, like you said, the size the bill. I

0:49:30.840 --> 0:49:32.560
<v Speaker 8>know that we've been working on that over the weekend,

0:49:32.680 --> 0:49:35.759
<v Speaker 8>trying to get some agreement between folks who want to

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<v Speaker 8>make sure that there are proper reforms that respect and

0:49:41.120 --> 0:49:45.280
<v Speaker 8>don't hurt people's constitutional rights, but that still provide national security.

0:49:45.680 --> 0:49:49.279
<v Speaker 8>We're looking at a farm bill and making sure that

0:49:49.360 --> 0:49:53.239
<v Speaker 8>our farmers can still get food on the table, and

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<v Speaker 8>then we're looking at a reconciliation bill, and we're calling

0:49:55.560 --> 0:49:57.440
<v Speaker 8>a reconciliation bill. But I think at this point in time,

0:49:57.440 --> 0:49:59.600
<v Speaker 8>there's two different ways of looking at There is a

0:49:59.680 --> 0:50:02.960
<v Speaker 8>short term funding bill for homeland security, which should have

0:50:03.080 --> 0:50:05.680
<v Speaker 8>been done months ago, which we had opportunity to get

0:50:05.680 --> 0:50:08.279
<v Speaker 8>done months ago. Democratist in the way. And then there's

0:50:08.320 --> 0:50:11.480
<v Speaker 8>a larger reconciliation bill that a number of us are

0:50:11.560 --> 0:50:14.440
<v Speaker 8>talking about that would include waste for our abuse and

0:50:14.520 --> 0:50:17.000
<v Speaker 8>ways of including things that got dropped out of last

0:50:17.080 --> 0:50:20.239
<v Speaker 8>year's Working Family's tass cut. So yeah, we have our

0:50:20.280 --> 0:50:22.480
<v Speaker 8>work cut out for us, but I think it's a

0:50:22.560 --> 0:50:25.160
<v Speaker 8>mistake to let people go home until that work's done.

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<v Speaker 3>Congress Willman Beth van Dinas from Texas. She's our special

0:50:28.920 --> 0:50:31.800
<v Speaker 3>guest member of Congress today. Beth, I'm sure you watched

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<v Speaker 3>in horror Saturday night, just as I did, as someone

0:50:34.680 --> 0:50:36.799
<v Speaker 3>for a third time tried to kill a President Trump.

0:50:36.880 --> 0:50:39.440
<v Speaker 3>That person's now been charged just a moment ago with

0:50:39.520 --> 0:50:42.560
<v Speaker 3>attempting to assassinate the president. It's pretty obvious this guy

0:50:42.760 --> 0:50:46.120
<v Speaker 3>was marinating in left wing talking points that you can

0:50:46.200 --> 0:50:48.640
<v Speaker 3>hear every day on cable news, that you can see

0:50:48.680 --> 0:50:51.239
<v Speaker 3>on social media, and that you hear come out of

0:50:51.280 --> 0:50:54.040
<v Speaker 3>the mouths of some of your colleagues in Congress.

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<v Speaker 8>Your reaction to this, yeah, No, I think you're absolutely right.

0:50:57.160 --> 0:50:58.840
<v Speaker 8>I mean, I mean, you have Hakeem Jeffery is saying that,

0:50:58.920 --> 0:51:01.360
<v Speaker 8>you know, we have to have constant warfare, you know,

0:51:01.960 --> 0:51:05.279
<v Speaker 8>on a blood red background, and he's leading, He's the

0:51:05.440 --> 0:51:09.760
<v Speaker 8>leading a Democrat in Congress. I mean, yes, this is warfare.

0:51:09.880 --> 0:51:11.680
<v Speaker 8>This is how they're identifying it, and they're trying to

0:51:12.000 --> 0:51:14.120
<v Speaker 8>justify it. And I want to thank you because you

0:51:14.200 --> 0:51:17.280
<v Speaker 8>had a post earlier today in your comments on CNN

0:51:17.360 --> 0:51:19.319
<v Speaker 8>when you called it out and you said you are

0:51:19.440 --> 0:51:23.160
<v Speaker 8>far left extremists who are justifying this violence, who are

0:51:23.280 --> 0:51:26.279
<v Speaker 8>happy to see it it occur, and it's only going

0:51:26.320 --> 0:51:27.719
<v Speaker 8>to cause more. So I want to thank you for

0:51:28.200 --> 0:51:30.040
<v Speaker 8>calling it what it is. And they don't have a

0:51:30.120 --> 0:51:32.520
<v Speaker 8>response for that, but they sit here and try to

0:51:33.080 --> 0:51:36.640
<v Speaker 8>blame Republicans for it. This is hateful, this is this

0:51:36.719 --> 0:51:40.640
<v Speaker 8>is this apparently was a normal guy who has been radicalized.

0:51:40.680 --> 0:51:42.840
<v Speaker 8>And I don't know if it was in his academic

0:51:43.880 --> 0:51:46.560
<v Speaker 8>career that this happened or it's just from seeing it

0:51:47.280 --> 0:51:49.640
<v Speaker 8>justified over and over again. But at the same time

0:51:49.680 --> 0:51:52.759
<v Speaker 8>that they're calling Trump nazi and saying that the Republicans

0:51:52.800 --> 0:51:55.759
<v Speaker 8>are haters haters, you're seeing more and more violence from

0:51:55.840 --> 0:51:58.360
<v Speaker 8>the left for petraying on the right. And it's a

0:51:58.440 --> 0:52:01.440
<v Speaker 8>number now of attacks against this president.

0:52:02.520 --> 0:52:06.160
<v Speaker 3>I was on Sunday morning and saw Congressman Jamie Raskin

0:52:06.320 --> 0:52:08.800
<v Speaker 3>of Maryland get asked directly, are you worried about the

0:52:08.840 --> 0:52:10.719
<v Speaker 3>rhetoric on the left, and he said, what rhetoric are

0:52:10.760 --> 0:52:11.440
<v Speaker 3>you talking about?

0:52:11.520 --> 0:52:16.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean this idea that they're not aware yea restaurant.

0:52:16.560 --> 0:52:18.320
<v Speaker 8>When you see them in shopping centers.

0:52:18.480 --> 0:52:20.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's crazy. It's crazy.

0:52:20.600 --> 0:52:23.560
<v Speaker 3>And so the failure to take responsibility for this or

0:52:23.640 --> 0:52:26.440
<v Speaker 3>to say well, it's both sides, or you know, Donald

0:52:26.480 --> 0:52:29.319
<v Speaker 3>Trump brought that on himself, which is what you hear

0:52:29.440 --> 0:52:32.120
<v Speaker 3>from people on the left commonly. It's actually pretty despicable,

0:52:32.120 --> 0:52:35.200
<v Speaker 3>but it creates a permission structure on the left for

0:52:35.320 --> 0:52:38.799
<v Speaker 3>these kinds of things to keep happening. Congresswoman Beth van

0:52:39.040 --> 0:52:41.040
<v Speaker 3>Dine of Texas, I know you have a busy week

0:52:41.120 --> 0:52:43.800
<v Speaker 3>with this Ways and Means Committee hearing. We wish you

0:52:43.840 --> 0:52:46.360
<v Speaker 3>the best with the hospital CEOs, and we wish the

0:52:46.440 --> 0:52:48.480
<v Speaker 3>Republicans the best as they try to get their work

0:52:48.520 --> 0:52:49.520
<v Speaker 3>done for the American people.

0:52:49.560 --> 0:52:50.560
<v Speaker 1>Thanks for your time today.

0:52:51.280 --> 0:52:52.760
<v Speaker 8>Hey, thank you very much, Scott.

0:52:53.520 --> 0:52:56.480
<v Speaker 3>Beth one of the best members of the House Republican Congress,

0:52:56.520 --> 0:52:58.799
<v Speaker 3>always grateful for her time. We're going to take a break,

0:52:58.880 --> 0:53:02.320
<v Speaker 3>but when we come back. Fox News legal analyst Jonathan

0:53:02.400 --> 0:53:04.759
<v Speaker 3>Turley joins us he's got a book out and I

0:53:04.880 --> 0:53:06.400
<v Speaker 3>want to get his opinion of what we're seeing with

0:53:06.440 --> 0:53:08.200
<v Speaker 3>this arraignment in federal court, all of it.

0:53:08.280 --> 0:53:10.719
<v Speaker 1>Right after this on the Scott Sheenning Show, Common Sense

0:53:10.840 --> 0:53:11.880
<v Speaker 1>for the American People.

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<v Speaker 5>This is the Scott Jenning Show.

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<v Speaker 3>Monday, April the twenty seven, Common Sense for the American People.

0:53:18.960 --> 0:53:22.000
<v Speaker 3>It's Scott Jennings broadcasting to you today on a Monday

0:53:22.120 --> 0:53:25.520
<v Speaker 3>in Washington, d C. Lot going on and to discuss that,

0:53:25.680 --> 0:53:30.600
<v Speaker 3>we'll have legal Legend Fox News legal analyst and author

0:53:30.760 --> 0:53:34.399
<v Speaker 3>Jonathan Turley coming up in sixty seconds. First, a word

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<v Speaker 3>Scott Jennings here on Salem. It is Monday, April the

0:54:30.719 --> 0:54:34.680
<v Speaker 3>twenty seventh. And joining us now is Jonathan Turley, nationally

0:54:34.960 --> 0:54:39.320
<v Speaker 3>recognized legal scholar and author of the new book called

0:54:39.640 --> 0:54:45.040
<v Speaker 3>Rage and the Republic, The Unfinished Story of the American Revolution. Jonathan,

0:54:45.080 --> 0:54:46.480
<v Speaker 3>it's a great honor for us to have you on

0:54:46.520 --> 0:54:48.640
<v Speaker 3>the Scott Jennings Show today. I want to start with

0:54:48.760 --> 0:54:52.640
<v Speaker 3>your book. We're obviously in America two point fifty right now.

0:54:52.760 --> 0:54:55.719
<v Speaker 3>This book's coming along at an interesting time. Tell us

0:54:55.800 --> 0:54:57.200
<v Speaker 3>about Rage in the Republic.

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<v Speaker 10>Well, Scott, thank you for having me on. And it

0:55:02.280 --> 0:55:05.280
<v Speaker 10>is a book that, unfortunately is a bit more poignant

0:55:05.320 --> 0:55:08.160
<v Speaker 10>than I hoped it would be, certainly more timely. We're

0:55:08.239 --> 0:55:12.640
<v Speaker 10>watching an age of rage unfold. And this is a

0:55:12.680 --> 0:55:17.040
<v Speaker 10>book about revolutions, about how they begin and more importantly,

0:55:17.080 --> 0:55:20.680
<v Speaker 10>how they end. Most revolutions end poorly, which is one

0:55:20.680 --> 0:55:24.360
<v Speaker 10>of the reasons the US Revolution is so notable.

0:55:25.040 --> 0:55:25.080
<v Speaker 8>That.

0:55:25.560 --> 0:55:28.120
<v Speaker 10>The first half of the book looks backwards and tries

0:55:28.200 --> 0:55:31.920
<v Speaker 10>to figure out why we have two revolutions occurring at

0:55:32.120 --> 0:55:35.360
<v Speaker 10>roughly the same time, the Revolution in the United States

0:55:35.400 --> 0:55:38.000
<v Speaker 10>and the one in France, and one became the most

0:55:38.040 --> 0:55:42.000
<v Speaker 10>successful democracy in history and the other became the terror

0:55:42.880 --> 0:55:46.680
<v Speaker 10>and I try to isolate the elements that are responsible

0:55:46.760 --> 0:55:51.160
<v Speaker 10>for those very different trajectories. The founders wanted to avoid

0:55:51.320 --> 0:55:56.759
<v Speaker 10>the pattern in history of democracies becoming what they called

0:55:57.200 --> 0:56:00.880
<v Speaker 10>my biocracies. The second half of the book forward and

0:56:01.040 --> 0:56:05.200
<v Speaker 10>asks can that republic survive in the twenty first century?

0:56:05.600 --> 0:56:09.280
<v Speaker 10>Can it survive us? And that's a bit more poignant

0:56:09.320 --> 0:56:14.160
<v Speaker 10>than I'd hoped, because it talks about the rage politics

0:56:14.280 --> 0:56:18.120
<v Speaker 10>being used by many today, particularly on the left, where

0:56:18.239 --> 0:56:21.640
<v Speaker 10>you have rage rhetoric and this desire to use that

0:56:21.920 --> 0:56:27.280
<v Speaker 10>rage to reacquire power, particularly in the midterms. And unfortunately

0:56:27.320 --> 0:56:31.759
<v Speaker 10>what we saw just at the recent dinner is an

0:56:31.800 --> 0:56:34.200
<v Speaker 10>example of that. In fact, many of the statements from

0:56:34.239 --> 0:56:37.120
<v Speaker 10>the manifesto of the shooter could have been ripped from

0:56:37.120 --> 0:56:39.400
<v Speaker 10>the pages of Rage and the Republic. Those are almost

0:56:39.480 --> 0:56:42.040
<v Speaker 10>exact quotes of what I talk about in the book,

0:56:42.920 --> 0:56:46.440
<v Speaker 10>but they're coming from democratic politicians and people on the left.

0:56:47.360 --> 0:56:50.839
<v Speaker 10>And that's the thing about rage is that it has

0:56:50.920 --> 0:56:55.960
<v Speaker 10>a purpose, right, It's designed to take away the humanity

0:56:56.080 --> 0:56:58.880
<v Speaker 10>of people that disagree with you. They're no longer people,

0:56:59.440 --> 0:57:02.920
<v Speaker 10>and you can eat them completely and absolutely, you can

0:57:03.000 --> 0:57:06.160
<v Speaker 10>even take their lives. And that's what we see in

0:57:06.239 --> 0:57:09.440
<v Speaker 10>this manifesto, that's what we see in all around us today.

0:57:09.960 --> 0:57:12.560
<v Speaker 10>And what people won't admit it, Well, what they said

0:57:12.600 --> 0:57:15.600
<v Speaker 10>they won't admit is that they like it, and then

0:57:15.640 --> 0:57:19.880
<v Speaker 10>it's contagious and it's addictive. But these politicians that are

0:57:20.000 --> 0:57:24.080
<v Speaker 10>injecting this rage into the body politic are playing a

0:57:24.200 --> 0:57:27.680
<v Speaker 10>dangerous game because they can't control it. They can't control

0:57:27.720 --> 0:57:31.000
<v Speaker 10>people like this guy. You know, these are people who

0:57:31.040 --> 0:57:34.320
<v Speaker 10>are looking for a license to commit violence.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think you're exactly right, Jonathan.

0:57:37.960 --> 0:57:40.840
<v Speaker 3>They realize they can't control it, and so they take

0:57:41.320 --> 0:57:43.720
<v Speaker 3>different tactics to try to deflect from it. I was

0:57:43.800 --> 0:57:47.520
<v Speaker 3>on CNN Sunday morning with Congressman Jamie Raskin who got

0:57:47.560 --> 0:57:50.960
<v Speaker 3>asked directly, you know what about the rageful rhetoric on

0:57:51.040 --> 0:57:53.000
<v Speaker 3>the left, are you worried about that? And he said, well,

0:57:53.000 --> 0:57:55.600
<v Speaker 3>what rhetoric are you talking about? And this idea that

0:57:55.720 --> 0:57:58.200
<v Speaker 3>you can just you know, pretend that it's not happening,

0:57:58.320 --> 0:57:59.720
<v Speaker 3>or put your head in the sand. I think it's

0:57:59.760 --> 0:58:01.760
<v Speaker 3>in it mission. They can't control it, but it's also

0:58:01.840 --> 0:58:05.000
<v Speaker 3>a permission structure for people to go out and act

0:58:05.080 --> 0:58:07.200
<v Speaker 3>on it. In fact, let's listen to this. This is

0:58:07.240 --> 0:58:11.320
<v Speaker 3>a congressman named Rajah Krishtna Murphy. He was asked about

0:58:11.480 --> 0:58:14.720
<v Speaker 3>the shooting attempt on Saturday night. Here's what he had

0:58:14.760 --> 0:58:16.000
<v Speaker 3>to say at cut number fifteen.

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<v Speaker 13>There's tremendous, as you can understand, concern given the threat

0:58:22.920 --> 0:58:25.560
<v Speaker 13>levels that are going up in part because of the

0:58:26.600 --> 0:58:30.440
<v Speaker 13>president and now three assassination attempts on him, is very

0:58:30.480 --> 0:58:35.920
<v Speaker 13>low approval ratings, which unfortunately fuel a lot of disaffection.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, here you have a member of Congress just

0:58:39.720 --> 0:58:42.280
<v Speaker 3>this morning on television saying, well, the president has low.

0:58:42.200 --> 0:58:43.840
<v Speaker 1>Approval ratings, So what do you expect?

0:58:43.880 --> 0:58:48.200
<v Speaker 3>I mean, that's essentially was him wiping away any responsibility

0:58:48.280 --> 0:58:48.480
<v Speaker 3>for this.

0:58:49.280 --> 0:58:51.160
<v Speaker 1>How do you respond to something like that. I was

0:58:51.200 --> 0:58:51.960
<v Speaker 1>shocked when I heard it.

0:58:53.800 --> 0:58:56.520
<v Speaker 10>You know, it's good that we still haven't lost our

0:58:57.320 --> 0:59:01.520
<v Speaker 10>capacity for shock. I think many people have. He is

0:59:01.640 --> 0:59:04.080
<v Speaker 10>one of the great rage bongers on the hill, but

0:59:04.200 --> 0:59:08.720
<v Speaker 10>he's not alone, and they know exactly what they're doing,

0:59:08.920 --> 0:59:12.080
<v Speaker 10>you know, they're there. They believe that this mounting level

0:59:12.160 --> 0:59:15.840
<v Speaker 10>of rage will bring them power in just a few months.

0:59:16.320 --> 0:59:19.280
<v Speaker 10>And that's what this is all about. And that's one

0:59:19.280 --> 0:59:22.320
<v Speaker 10>of the reasons why they're not coming forward today and saying, Wow,

0:59:22.920 --> 0:59:25.680
<v Speaker 10>we need to really step this down, We need to

0:59:26.480 --> 0:59:30.880
<v Speaker 10>take responsibility, because this rage has a purpose, you know.

0:59:31.440 --> 0:59:34.280
<v Speaker 10>They you know, rage in the Republic looks back at

0:59:34.320 --> 0:59:37.600
<v Speaker 10>our revolution. It figures like Thomas Paine, who is sort

0:59:37.640 --> 0:59:41.560
<v Speaker 10>of the voice of righteous rage in our revolution. And

0:59:41.680 --> 0:59:44.640
<v Speaker 10>I follow his life through the American Revolution then to

0:59:44.720 --> 0:59:47.120
<v Speaker 10>the French revolutions. If he was one of two figures

0:59:47.120 --> 0:59:50.280
<v Speaker 10>who played a role in both, and the other being Lafayette.

0:59:51.080 --> 0:59:56.160
<v Speaker 10>What Pain witnessed in the French Revolution was what happens

0:59:56.320 --> 1:00:00.920
<v Speaker 10>if you have a revolution without the structural protections that

1:00:01.080 --> 1:00:05.800
<v Speaker 10>we have. He saw what one French writer described iss

1:00:05.880 --> 1:00:11.920
<v Speaker 10>how revolutions like Saturn devour their own children. It almost

1:00:12.080 --> 1:00:15.960
<v Speaker 10>killed Pained, It was almost guillotine. But he saw what

1:00:16.240 --> 1:00:21.760
<v Speaker 10>happens when you allow unrestrained rage to take over. That's

1:00:21.840 --> 1:00:25.080
<v Speaker 10>what we're facing again on our two or fiftieth anniversaries

1:00:25.120 --> 1:00:27.560
<v Speaker 10>I talk about in regular their public you've got law

1:00:27.640 --> 1:00:32.040
<v Speaker 10>professors and themes calling for us to scrap our constitution.

1:00:32.240 --> 1:00:35.800
<v Speaker 10>They're saying that the constitution is now harmful and it's

1:00:35.880 --> 1:00:40.720
<v Speaker 10>what's hurting us. And they're actually calling for the very

1:00:40.840 --> 1:00:44.600
<v Speaker 10>elements that distinguished us from the French Republic, the very

1:00:44.640 --> 1:00:47.160
<v Speaker 10>elements had led to the terror in France.

1:00:48.600 --> 1:00:51.400
<v Speaker 3>That boys, you're hearing on the show today. Jonathan Turley,

1:00:51.560 --> 1:00:54.560
<v Speaker 3>he's got a book out. It's incredible. It's called Rage

1:00:54.720 --> 1:00:58.400
<v Speaker 3>and the Republic, The Unfinished Story of the American Revolution.

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<v Speaker 1>It was an instant New York Times best seller.

1:01:00.760 --> 1:01:04.400
<v Speaker 3>It gets amazing reviews from customers who've read it on Amazon.

1:01:04.520 --> 1:01:06.480
<v Speaker 3>You can go there and order it right now. A

1:01:06.520 --> 1:01:09.360
<v Speaker 3>bit of breaking news that actually is related to the

1:01:09.400 --> 1:01:12.560
<v Speaker 3>American Revolution. I see on my monitor here, Jonathan, that

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<v Speaker 3>the plane carrying King Charles and Queen Camilla from London

1:01:16.600 --> 1:01:19.240
<v Speaker 3>has arrived in the United States. I see the stairs

1:01:19.760 --> 1:01:21.640
<v Speaker 3>being rolled up, and so we'll see the King of

1:01:21.720 --> 1:01:25.520
<v Speaker 3>England arriving for his state visit shortly. Will bring you

1:01:25.640 --> 1:01:28.560
<v Speaker 3>details of that as they unfold, Jonathan, I want to

1:01:28.600 --> 1:01:30.960
<v Speaker 3>shift gears to what we saw happen on Saturday night,

1:01:31.040 --> 1:01:34.439
<v Speaker 3>we just saw the shooter arraigned in federal District court

1:01:34.800 --> 1:01:38.360
<v Speaker 3>in Washington, d C. They have added a charge attempting

1:01:38.440 --> 1:01:41.919
<v Speaker 3>to assassinate the President of the United States that would

1:01:42.040 --> 1:01:44.880
<v Speaker 3>carry a life sentence possibly if he is convicted. Do

1:01:44.920 --> 1:01:47.360
<v Speaker 3>you think they can make that stick given the details

1:01:47.480 --> 1:01:51.280
<v Speaker 3>of the case that you know right now, yes, Scott.

1:01:51.320 --> 1:01:55.160
<v Speaker 10>I mean the problem for his defense counsel, and I

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<v Speaker 10>spent most of my career as a criminal defense attorney,

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<v Speaker 10>is that there's really now defense here. His high functionality,

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<v Speaker 10>the planning, the manifesto all make it virtually impossible in

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<v Speaker 10>my view, for him to make a capacity or insanity defense.

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<v Speaker 10>So he doesn't have a lot left. He's on video

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<v Speaker 10>shooting a secret Service agent. You know, he's on video

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<v Speaker 10>trying to get into the room with the president. His

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<v Speaker 10>manifesto talks directly about the president, says he's the Antichrist,

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<v Speaker 10>so that he's going to end his legacy. All of

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<v Speaker 10>that makes these charges land pretty hard and pretty stably

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<v Speaker 10>for a prosecutor. You know, he might be able to

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<v Speaker 10>argue that he was actually gunning for others, but it's

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<v Speaker 10>pretty implausible that you would go into a room and

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<v Speaker 10>you would have a bunch of cabinet members and the president,

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<v Speaker 10>and you start out by taking out the sectary of hut.

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<v Speaker 10>I mean, they it's rather obvious that he was after

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<v Speaker 10>the president and these other people. Now, those charges, particularly

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<v Speaker 10>the first one, come with in man a life imprisonment sentences,

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<v Speaker 10>and this is just the sort of placeholders you're going

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<v Speaker 10>to see. I think when we finally see the indictment

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<v Speaker 10>which his hass go to a grand jury, I expect

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<v Speaker 10>we'll see not just an indictment, but probably a superseding indictment.

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<v Speaker 10>They'll just keep adding charges just to make sure they've

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<v Speaker 10>got bells and suspenders. But judging from the evidence already

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<v Speaker 10>in this case, you know, unless he's got an evil twin,

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<v Speaker 10>he didn't have much.

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<v Speaker 12>Of a defense.

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<v Speaker 3>Jonathan Turley is our guest here on the Scott Jennings Show.

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<v Speaker 3>One of the things I've been thinking about since Saturday night,

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<v Speaker 3>and you're a constitutional scholar, I'm interested in your opinion

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<v Speaker 3>of this is the entire line of succession save Chuck

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<v Speaker 3>Grassley of Aisle Well, the Senate President pro tem, was

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<v Speaker 3>in that room. Do you think that the executive and

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<v Speaker 3>legislative branch leaders need to think a little more carefully

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<v Speaker 3>about where they put themselves. I mean, you had the

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<v Speaker 3>president and vice president, you had the Speaker of the House,

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<v Speaker 3>you had senior members of the cabinet. Are we to

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<v Speaker 3>a point now, based on what we're seeing in our

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<v Speaker 3>political culture, where we're going to have to keep these

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<v Speaker 3>people apart from each other as much as possible.

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<v Speaker 10>You know, it's interesting because the White House said today

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<v Speaker 10>that they were already aware that various cabinet members would

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<v Speaker 10>not be attending the dinner, so they didn't have to

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<v Speaker 10>use the sort of state of the Union approach and

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<v Speaker 10>have that one successor out because they had a number

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<v Speaker 10>of successors. I think that the biggest change will obviously

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<v Speaker 10>be one of security. It's always amazed me about the dinner.

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<v Speaker 10>The last time I was there, I didn't go this year.

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<v Speaker 10>Last time I was there, I was like three feet

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<v Speaker 10>away from the president.

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<v Speaker 12>He was, you know, And.

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<v Speaker 10>The fluidity of the movement in front of the president

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<v Speaker 10>is really surprising. All the events I have gone to

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<v Speaker 10>with president, that's the one that is the most fluid.

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<v Speaker 10>That people walk right up to the President. And so

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<v Speaker 10>it's always been a little bit unnerving that, you know,

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<v Speaker 10>if the other unnerving quality is it's really really compact.

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<v Speaker 10>I always thought if there was a fire in this room,

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<v Speaker 10>half the people couldn't get out because it's so compact.

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<v Speaker 10>So I'm a feeling that they're going to change it.

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<v Speaker 10>They're going to probably make it left compact. There's an

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<v Speaker 10>argument that they're going to make a single entrance not

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<v Speaker 10>connect to hotel. But the really poignan argument, Scott, as

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<v Speaker 10>you know, is you know this question about the new ballroom.

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<v Speaker 10>You know, it's really interesting that.

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<v Speaker 3>And maybe necessary, as the President has said, I mean

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<v Speaker 3>you've got yeah, I mean it would be the most

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<v Speaker 3>secure place in DC to do anything like this. I

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<v Speaker 3>mean the President has been making this point. Now it's

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<v Speaker 3>pretty obvious.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, as you know, Scott, the judge that justin joined

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<v Speaker 10>it made a note to say, well, there's not any

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<v Speaker 10>real clear national security values.

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<v Speaker 1>Like what Well, now you just ease to turn on

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<v Speaker 1>the news and figure it out.

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<v Speaker 3>The book is called Rage in the Republic, The Unfinished

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<v Speaker 3>Story of the American Revolution. The author that voice you've

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<v Speaker 3>been hearing, Jonathan Turtley. You see him on Fox News.

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<v Speaker 3>He's a legend of the legal business, and we look

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<v Speaker 3>to him and look to you often. Jonathan for your

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<v Speaker 3>comment on legal issues of the day in our US constitution.

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<v Speaker 3>We're grateful for your time today and we look forward

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<v Speaker 3>to seeing you in your next appearance, which I'm sure

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<v Speaker 3>we'll be soon given.

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<v Speaker 1>The legal issues at play today. Appreciate it. Thanks for

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<v Speaker 1>coming on.

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<v Speaker 10>Thank you, Scott.

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<v Speaker 1>Good to be with you all right.

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<v Speaker 3>Jonathan Turley from FOXW making his inaugural appearance on The

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<v Speaker 3>Scott Jetting Show. We'll take a break and we come back,

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<v Speaker 3>Virginia Redistrict Team. We've got some news on that. Stay

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<v Speaker 3>with us.

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<v Speaker 7>Portion to the Scot Jetting Show are sponsored in part

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<v Speaker 7>by Americans for Prosperity.

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<v Speaker 3>Monday, April twenty seventh, the breaking news is King Charles

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<v Speaker 3>and Camilla have just descended the staircase and they're at

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<v Speaker 3>Andrew's Air Force Base in Maryland. They're greeting people at

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<v Speaker 3>the bottom of the staircase right now. They've been handed

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<v Speaker 3>some flowers by some children. I think that's our friend

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<v Speaker 3>Monica Crowley, the protocol officer at State who you hear

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<v Speaker 3>on the show sometimes there is helping coordinate this visit.

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<v Speaker 1>So the King of England and the Queen.

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<v Speaker 3>Will head over to the White House for tea and

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<v Speaker 3>then we'll see him over at the British Embassy this say, afternoon.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going over there after the show, by the way,

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<v Speaker 3>to hopefully see the King and the Queen. So we'll

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<v Speaker 3>tell you about that tomorrow. Do you want to give

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<v Speaker 3>you a quick message that our friends in Israel, our

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<v Speaker 3>Jewish friends, are feeling rather forgotten right now. The story

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<v Speaker 3>is about a woman named Esther, and she's at her

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<v Speaker 3>home in Israel. She's living through days and nights of fear.

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<v Speaker 3>There sirens sounding, rockets are screaming through the sky. She's

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<v Speaker 3>spending long stretches in bomb shelters. Eighty four years old,

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<v Speaker 3>she's elderly, she's fragile.

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<v Speaker 1>She's alone.

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<v Speaker 3>No help, no food, no medical care, no one knocking

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<v Speaker 3>at the door in the middle of this war zone.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what she fail.

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<v Speaker 3>But because of friends like you, Esther is in fact

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<v Speaker 3>not alone. And it's through the International Fellowship of Christians

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<v Speaker 3>and Jews.

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<v Speaker 1>You're right there.

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<v Speaker 3>You're bringing the food, you're meeting urgent needs, and you're

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<v Speaker 3>reminding Jewish people like Esther that you're not forgotten in

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<v Speaker 3>times of fear and uncertainty. Your compassion brings hope and

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<v Speaker 3>help Esther asked me to pass along these words. Quote

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<v Speaker 3>to those who give, you're doing a very great mitzvah,

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<v Speaker 3>a good deed you give from your hearts. May God

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<v Speaker 3>protect you your prayers for God's protection and for the

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<v Speaker 3>peace of Jerusalem.

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<v Speaker 1>Give Jewish people like Esther hope.

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<v Speaker 3>Stand with Israel in prayer by visiting SUPPORTIFCJ dot org.

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<v Speaker 3>That is support IFCJ dot org. It's the home stretch

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<v Speaker 3>of the Scott Jennings show here on Monday, April the

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<v Speaker 3>twenty seventh, We're going to get an update now from

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<v Speaker 3>former Virginia Attorney General Ken Kouchinelli who joins us. He

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<v Speaker 3>is part of the legal challenge that is going on

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<v Speaker 3>against this jerrymanderd redistricting map in Virginia. It is headed

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<v Speaker 3>to the Virginia Supreme Court. Can I see that there's

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<v Speaker 3>a little action on this today?

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<v Speaker 1>What can you tell us?

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<v Speaker 8>So?

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<v Speaker 2>The Supreme Court heard oral argument this morning. They called

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<v Speaker 2>a special session to do it and they heard on

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<v Speaker 2>the argument on the twenty twenty five calendar in fractions

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<v Speaker 2>by the Democrat General Assembly. A different case has the

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty six violations of the Virginia Constitution and that

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<v Speaker 2>incredible ballot language that so many people have read. You

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<v Speaker 2>can see it on my Twitter feed at ten Kuchinelli.

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<v Speaker 2>But today was focused on twenty twenty five, the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that while the Democrats gave us a forty five day

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<v Speaker 2>election and we vote odd years, it's like y'all doing Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 2>So we had an election last year. A million people

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<v Speaker 2>had already voted on Halloween when they General Assembly swooped

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<v Speaker 2>into town to pass this proposed Gerrymander amendment. And their

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<v Speaker 2>lawyer today, he's only defense of it was, look, if

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<v Speaker 2>you vote early, you do so at your own risk.

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<v Speaker 2>That was the Democrats lawyer. Now the argument, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Jay Jones, the Age of Virginia, has been out saying

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<v Speaker 2>he's defending the vote outcome. Defending the vote outcome. The

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<v Speaker 2>first question from a justice to the AG's lawyer was

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<v Speaker 2>does the vote outcome matter for our legal analysis? Answer? No, Justice,

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<v Speaker 2>it does not. So what j Jones has been out

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<v Speaker 2>arguing for six days in public was immediately conceded to

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<v Speaker 2>be irrelevant by his own lawyer at the first question.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah in the case.

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<v Speaker 3>Today, Ken, so bottom line here, and you broke this

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<v Speaker 3>news on the Scott Jenny Show last week is that

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<v Speaker 3>it's your view, and it appears to be a more

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<v Speaker 3>than viable argument that the Democrats here violated the Virginia

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<v Speaker 3>Constitution's calendar mandates as it relates to a constitutional amendment,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's not really in question.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're going to get a ruling on this from

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<v Speaker 1>the court pretty quickly.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, it will be pretty quick. They did briefing Thursday,

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<v Speaker 2>two days after the referendum. They heard oral argument today.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't ever remember a case they are going any faster,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I wouldn't be surprised to see a ruling

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<v Speaker 2>in two weeks or by mid bay.

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<v Speaker 1>All right.

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<v Speaker 2>That is former Reds is lightning fast.

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<v Speaker 1>Lightning fast.

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<v Speaker 3>But of course people need to know because this map

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<v Speaker 3>has passed and it radically changes the congressional districts in Virginia.

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<v Speaker 2>So I guess see that's why they're going some fast,

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<v Speaker 2>and I give them credit for that.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, The former Attorney General of Virginia Kin Kochinelli.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the voice you've been hearing.

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<v Speaker 2>Ken.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll keep updating with you on this as we wait

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<v Speaker 3>for the Virginia Supreme Court while this is going on.

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<v Speaker 3>By the way, in Virginia, which the map could be

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<v Speaker 3>thrown out, you could revert to the old districts. We've

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<v Speaker 3>got the situation in Florida, which we're going to track

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<v Speaker 3>tomorrow where Governor Ron De Santis has unveiled a possible

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<v Speaker 3>new map today and it would add four Republican seats

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<v Speaker 3>in Florida. So we could see a real swing of

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<v Speaker 3>momentum on redistricting towards the Republicans based on what happens

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<v Speaker 3>over the next couple of weeks. I'm headed off to

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<v Speaker 3>see the King of England. Thank you for listening. We'll

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<v Speaker 3>be back on the air with you tomorrow at Scott

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<v Speaker 3>Jennings on Salem. Common sense for the American people. We

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<v Speaker 3>appreciate you.

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<v Speaker 7>Thanks for a litten voice of reason, common sense for

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<v Speaker 7>the American people.

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<v Speaker 8>This is the Scott Jenny Show.