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Speaker 1: you today coming up. Jonathan Schanzer, Ben and ben Belkablue

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Speaker 1: from the Foundation for the Defensive Democracy, Eleana Johnson from

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Speaker 1: the Washington Freebeacon, Jim tallon Alaska Senator Dan Sullivan, so

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Speaker 1: much more, But I start with the indispensable Jim Garrity

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Speaker 1: Washington Post call him as senior political writer for National Review.

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Speaker 1: He writes every morning the morning Joel would shot to

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Speaker 1: be getting and reading. Chim will cover the breaking news

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Speaker 1: of CHRISTI nom being fired and Mark Wayne Mullen being

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Speaker 1: named after I get your first assessment of how the

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Speaker 1: war with Iron is going, because that is the big

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Speaker 1: story of the day, and we're five days in. By

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Speaker 1: the end of the show, something terrible could happen, but

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Speaker 1: right now such Americans have been killed and Iran's getting

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Speaker 1: a living daylights knocked out of them. What do you think, Hugh.

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Speaker 2: The last time we talked, the war had not yet begune,

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Speaker 2: and I was reminding your listeners of Trump's truth Social

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Speaker 2: statement that help was on its way. I believe forty

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Speaker 2: six days passed between that statement on truth Social and

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Speaker 2: the actual beginning of bombing. In the interim, a lot

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Speaker 2: of the Iranian regime managed to kill a lot of protesters,

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Speaker 2: and I was frustrated by it. It came late, but

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Speaker 2: when it came, it came in just phenomenal numbers. And

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Speaker 2: the performance of the military has just been superlative in

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Speaker 2: terms of the precision, in terms of the scale of

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Speaker 2: the scope, the sheer integration with our Israeli allies, and

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Speaker 2: the use of Israeli intelligence has just been fascinating. And

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Speaker 2: you know, today's Morning jult I kind of went through

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Speaker 2: all the numbers. Before the conflict, Iran had the thirteenth

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Speaker 2: largest military.

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Speaker 3: In the world.

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Speaker 2: Whether there was a little bit of hyperbole in Secretary

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Speaker 2: of Defense Pete Hegsas comments yesterday when he said the

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Speaker 2: Iranian Navy has been destroyed, the Iranian Air Force has

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Speaker 2: been destroyed.

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Speaker 3: They're a shadow of their former.

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Speaker 2: Selves and In fact, just this afternoon, another Iranian warship

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Speaker 2: went into port at Sri Lanka and basically said we're out.

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Speaker 2: We're not leaving port for the remainder of the conflict.

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Speaker 2: We have no interest in joining that other ship at

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Speaker 2: the bottom of the ocean. It's been phenomenal, and you know,

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Speaker 2: we've been through at least one eye Atola, possibly two.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of hard to see because they cycle through

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Speaker 2: them so fast. The Iranian regime is never going to

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Speaker 2: be the same from us. I know the job is

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Speaker 2: not done. I really want to see the Iranian regime

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Speaker 2: utterly complete.

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Speaker 3: If we end up in a Venezuela type.

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Speaker 2: Situation where we leave the runner up or the right

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Speaker 2: going to be conducive to our long term interests. But

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Speaker 2: you know, kudos to the President for calling for taking

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Speaker 2: action that really no democratic even those alleged Neocon war

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Speaker 2: bongers Bush and Sheney never did something like this.

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Speaker 1: Two people coming up, Ben and Ben Talableau of the

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Speaker 1: Foundation for Defensive Democracies, and I often talked to Kareem

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Speaker 1: both been very public. Don't arm the courage, don't let

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Speaker 1: the country fall into civil war. What's your thought on that,

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Speaker 1: because you know, obviously we would like the regular Iranian

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Speaker 1: hold elections. But that's ye and I'd also like a

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Speaker 2: The wariness of arming the Kurds is well placed and justified.

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Speaker 2: It's been a long while since I've been in Turkey,

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Speaker 2: but the RAND has fired just about everything and everybody

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Speaker 2: they have not. There's one missile that got shot down

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Speaker 2: over Turkey. There's debate about whether it was set in

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Speaker 2: directly at Turkey. This is because they share a border.

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Speaker 2: Turkey has about a million men men when you throw

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Speaker 2: the Turks right now. One area, though, that where Iran

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Speaker 3: Curds on their territory.

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Speaker 2: Curtis stand if it existed as a country and included

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Speaker 2: And neither the Turks nor the Iranians want to see

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Speaker 3: The northern third of Iraq is a it's.

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Speaker 2: Not an independent country, but it's got a great deal

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Speaker 3: A bit of the Curds.

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Speaker 2: I understand the US wants to we're doing everything without

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Speaker 3: We've seen the limits of air power.

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Speaker 2: You can't remove a regime from power without somebody on

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Speaker 2: the ground fighting there. I do, however, think that this

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Speaker 3: I think they would be deeply concerned by this.

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Speaker 1: All right now, I want to hear every other I've

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Speaker 1: gotta have enough time to switch because you are the

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Speaker 1: father of a couple of robot geeks and they're in

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Speaker 1: high school. When I was in high school, Saigon fell

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Speaker 1: of age during disasters or maybe mixed messages. Your boys

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Speaker 2: We'll should point out My older one is in college

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Speaker 2: and apparently when you go to a tech school, nobody

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Speaker 2: Well, so like, uh yeah, like this this is not

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Speaker 4: It's all robots, it's all drunk.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, in high school.

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Speaker 2: There's been some talk with my own one, but my

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Speaker 3: So the number of Americans who can go through their.

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Speaker 2: Day and don't have a relative, don't have a friend,

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Speaker 2: don't feel like the country is at war. And some

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Speaker 2: go wrong. That there was the shooting in Austin and

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Speaker 2: otherwise we have not seen any activated Arabians, sleeper cells,

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Speaker 3: So that's, you know, that's good news.

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Speaker 2: But I think it also adds to this sense that

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Speaker 3: Also, very thankfully, we've had a great.

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Speaker 2: Fear of casualties in a war like this unless I

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Speaker 2: to mourn every last one of those heroes. But I

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Speaker 2: Now life goes on. I don't grudge people talking about

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Speaker 2: But I do kind of feel like it's strangely quiet

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Speaker 2: for us to have begun what it effectively amounts to

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Speaker 1: From my whole, I don't like I want to finish

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Speaker 1: with this, given how serious the foe is and Iran

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Speaker 1: is the octopus of terror. I am very glad that

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Speaker 1: Mark Wwaynemullin is going to DHS because I think he's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So first of all, let's point out that, like

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Speaker 3: Who's part of DHS is not getting paid.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know about you, Hugh, but I really

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Speaker 3: I'd like you to get paid.

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Speaker 2: It seems like literally the least we can do is

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Speaker 3: Christy Noam.

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Speaker 2: I wrote The Morning Joel back in January that she

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Speaker 2: And I should give a shout out to my colleague

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Speaker 2: Audrey Fahlberg, who first reported that Trump was just fed

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Speaker 2: up with no idea. Tell me again, Christy no My

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Speaker 1: Podcast. Yeah, stay up on the podcast for her.

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Speaker 2: it's not likely surprising. Christy Doman had knock been out

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Speaker 2: seemed like a bit of a strange pick. I know

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Speaker 2: the huge people thought Christy Dolan would be this be

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Speaker 1: But okay, Garity, you had missed your daily your your

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Speaker 1: weekly quotient of bad jokes. It's sort of like a

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Speaker 1: given that there's going to be a bad Garrity joke.

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Speaker 1: Were you bad on your boys? Were you like mister

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Speaker 1: dad joke on the Neighborhood Watch Hugh?

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Speaker 3: The whole reason I became a father is to tell Dad,

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Speaker 4: Joe, I thought so.

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Speaker 1: Garity. Read him in the Washington Post, read him in

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Speaker 1: the National Review. Listen to the Three Martini Lunch, listen

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Speaker 1: to the Editors podcast, and get the morning Joelt. I

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Speaker 1: don't what time you get up to write that thing.

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Speaker 2: I'm in front of my computer about six and forty

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Speaker 1: Well well done, that something's gone wrong every day. Well done,

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Jim Garretty follow him on exit. Jim Garretty

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Speaker 1: found me the next segment, I'm Hugo walking back America.

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Speaker 1: I'm Huughe Hewett. Every single Monday, Wednesday, Friday, I begin

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Speaker 1: my morning with John and Shenshanzer, who does the FDD

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Speaker 6: You know, this is not exactly something that the Iranians

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Speaker 1: Jonathan, I'm sure you remember the video that the IRGC

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Speaker 6: The question to my mind right now is, you know,

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Speaker 6: And then also the unity among the Iranian people, and

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Speaker 1: To slow, Jonathan, your colleague Ben and Ben in Taliblu

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Speaker 6: Look, here's what everybody needs to understand is that you

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Speaker 6: Or are they going to say, Hey, I thought and

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Speaker 6: This is just this is complexity that we don't necessarily

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Speaker 1: Another quite you're font of information. I appreciate it every

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Speaker 1: Absolutely. Walter Russell Meade made the same point today in

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Speaker 1: people on the Hill listen to FDD. Is FDD urging

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Speaker 6: Yeah, And look, the Israelis are going to need whatever

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Speaker 6: I believe they have hit fifty five five hundred targets

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Speaker 6: This is not charity, folks, This is the Israelis fighting

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Speaker 4: And I think we're on our way.

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Speaker 6: There's still a lot that can go wrong, but they're

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Speaker 4: They're working with us and for us.

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Speaker 1: John and Shann They're always good to talk to you. Again,

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Speaker 1: everyone ought to be listening to the Morning Brief Monday, Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: Friday with Jonathan. I don't know why we don't get

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Speaker 1: Tuesday's Thursdays. I don't know. I should ask Jonathan.

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Speaker 3: I'm tired.

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Speaker 1: I know your time here five days a week. Come on, Jonathan,

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Speaker 1: get up and tell me what's going on. Jonan Shands

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Speaker 1: Foundation for the Defense of Democracy Think tu in America.

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Speaker 1: I'm you doing Welcome Back in America. I'm to do it.

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Speaker 1: The question before the House is can President Donald J.

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Speaker 1: Trump pull off a Goldielocks war not too little like

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Speaker 1: right with Iran To answer that, have Eleana Y. Johnson

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Speaker 1: How about it, Eliana, are you hoping for the Goldielocks

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Speaker 7: Well, Hugh, I'm hoping for victory. I think that's what

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you've seen the picture yet of

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Speaker 7: I agree with you. Youugh things look right now, and

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Speaker 7: I don't want to be governed by a president who's

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Speaker 7: making decisions about national security and where to strike and

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Speaker 7: whether to strike based on scrutinizing poll numbers and looking

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Speaker 7: at the next election. I want a president doing what

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Speaker 7: I think this president is doing right now, which is,

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Speaker 7: you know, I'll distinguish why he did this at all

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Speaker 7: versus why he took this opportunity when he did it.

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Speaker 7: But he took an opportunity when he had it regardless

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Speaker 7: of what the polls said, and I think that's that's wise.

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Speaker 1: Let me divert for a moment, Eliana. I do not

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Speaker 1: talk about other podcasters who engage in stuff I don't

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Speaker 1: like because they don't want to draw attention to them.

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Speaker 1: I'm making an exception with you because you may have

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Speaker 1: had Hbad at Yale. I don't know if you did.

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Speaker 1: Habad is a fine organization. It's on most campuses. They

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Speaker 1: were the target of the Mumbai terror attack, they were

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Speaker 1: the target of the Bondai Beach terror attack. They are

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Speaker 1: always a target because Abbad is very public. Where there's

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Speaker 1: a hubbad house. Tucker went after Hubbad yesterday and I

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Speaker 1: want him to take it down. Are you shocked by that?

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Speaker 7: I have to say you, I've not listened to this

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Speaker 7: at length. I've seen maybe as you have clips on

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Speaker 7: this episode. I was surprised to see it, and I

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Speaker 7: think it's important for people to know that this is

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Speaker 7: an organization that supports Jews and Jewish life, and so

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Speaker 7: to get the facts out there about it, which is

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Speaker 7: that's the beginning of the end and end of why

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Speaker 7: this organization exists, and that's it.

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Speaker 1: And they support Jews everywhere around the world, and I

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Speaker 1: just don't want to put a target on their back,

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Speaker 1: and so I hope he takes it down. Let me

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Speaker 1: move back to the war with you.

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Speaker 7: We're not the other thing you is ahead is that

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Speaker 7: I would add to this is there may be an

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Speaker 7: aspect of this where things need to get worse before

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Speaker 7: they get better, where we will see increasingly unhinged conspiracy theories.

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Speaker 7: I saw Candice Owens weighing in praising that and talking about,

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Speaker 7: you know, Jews trying to have her murdered and so on.

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Speaker 7: Maybe that we need to spin off into those increasingly

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Speaker 7: that increasingly unhinged territory for all of this to get

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Speaker 7: rained back in eventually.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it broke my back. I've just ignored this stuff

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Speaker 1: because it's been around forever. It's been in the water forever,

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Speaker 1: and it's by the way.

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Speaker 7: The President has now weighed in as well, I would note,

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Speaker 7: and his comment to Jonathan Carl of ABC News was

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Speaker 7: that Tucker has lost his way. I knew that a

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Speaker 7: long time ago. He's not Maga, Mega's saving our country.

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Speaker 7: Mega's America first, Tucker's and of those things, Tucker is

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Speaker 7: really not smart enough to understand that. And look, those

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Speaker 7: two could be friends again in six months. Nothing's permanent

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Speaker 7: with the president, but obviously the President is standing with

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Speaker 7: the State of Israel right now, key partners in this war,

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Speaker 7: and with the Jewish people, as he has since twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 1: And Tucker come back to normalcy. That's also possible. Let

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Speaker 1: me ask you about whether or not you think that

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Speaker 1: Congress is going to move rapidly or take its time

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Speaker 1: to replenish the munition stock, both for America and Israel.

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Speaker 1: They could do that with a reconciliation in a week.

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Speaker 1: You need Budget Committee and Appropriating Committee and Armed Services

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Speaker 1: do that. But they could move quickly if they want to,

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Speaker 1: or they could wait and do a supplemental which takes longer.

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Speaker 1: They could wait for normal appropriation. I think they had

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Speaker 1: to go fast. What do you think, Eliana?

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Speaker 7: Of course I agree with you, Hugh, and I think

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Speaker 7: we should hear from the Secretary of War Pete Hegseth

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Speaker 7: on this screaming from the rooftops until it gets done,

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Speaker 7: as well as the president top national priority right now.

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Speaker 7: And it's worth noting that it's wonderful to see the

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Speaker 7: new weapons of war used here, powered by artificial intelligence,

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Speaker 7: and both by the US and Israel. Fantastic. It's been

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Speaker 1: If you're listening to Dan Senior or today Walter Russell

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Speaker 1: Mead says, it's incredible how advanced Israeli An American defense

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Speaker 1: technology and capabilities are. The World's going to want to

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Speaker 1: buy our stuff. That's what it comes down to. They're

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Speaker 1: not gonna want Chinese stuff. They're gonna want our stuff.

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Speaker 7: Beyond that, what the world is watching visa Russia and

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Speaker 7: China is those two countries stand on the sidelines as

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Speaker 7: their ally in Iran is attacked. Well America and Israel

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Speaker 7: operate together, it makes America an attractive ally, and it

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Speaker 7: makes Russia and Iran unattractive and unreliable partners. I think

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Speaker 7: that's being broadcast to the world right now.

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Speaker 1: Superb point Eleana y Johnson on X reader at the

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Speaker 1: Free Peacon and of course listening to her on the

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Speaker 1: commentary podcast Morning Thank You, Eliana, Don't Go Anywhere America

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Speaker 1: on Quod, Morning Glory and even Grace America. I'm Hugh

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Speaker 1: Hewett in the Relifact of Studio WET. You're watching on

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Speaker 1: the Sale News Channel, on Trudo, GV and whatever you

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Speaker 1: can find smart TV. I'm joined now by Ben and

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Speaker 1: Ben Talabou, senior fellow at the Foundation for the Defensive Democracies.

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Speaker 1: Whenever Benham comes on anywhere, I stop and listen. Betam,

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Speaker 1: I want to start with the first question. I've heard

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Speaker 1: you raise the alarm about arming the courage now to

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Speaker 1: a dummy like me. It sounded like a good idea

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Speaker 1: at first, but then when you and Kareem Sadia Poor

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Speaker 1: both tell me bad idea, bad idea, I listen because

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Would you explain it to my audience

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Speaker 1: why it's a bad idea to arm a Kurdish insurgency.

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Speaker 8: Well, it's always a pleasure to be with you, Hugh,

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Speaker 8: and thank you for the very kind note. Listen. I

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Speaker 8: think President Trump has a level of popularity inside Iran

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Speaker 8: that he even may not know. Yes, I think one

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Speaker 8: of those rapid response Twitter pages reposted an Iranian DJ

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Speaker 8: who was heralding the cliff where President Trump was saying

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Speaker 8: that Iran's now former Supreme leader I told Haminae was

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Speaker 8: dead in an air strike. But ultimately, even when you

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Speaker 8: look at US allies in Western Europe or around the world,

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Speaker 8: Donald Trumph is immensely popular. His Iran policy is immensely popular,

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Speaker 8: and his prosecution of maximum pressure to include military pressure

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Speaker 8: against Tehran's theocrats, is immensely popular, especially on the backdrop

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Speaker 8: of the most violently suppressed free protests in the history

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Speaker 8: of the Islamic Republic. And therefore, to lose that mass support,

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Speaker 8: it's not about minorities or the center versus the periphery.

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Speaker 8: It's to make sure that you have mass support for

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Speaker 8: the policies that you pursue in that country. And to

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Speaker 8: take note of the fact that a sectarian insurgency in

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Speaker 8: the Middle East hasn't traditionally worked. The curves are immensely

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Speaker 8: brave people. They've been immensely effective against terror organizations like ISIS,

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Speaker 8: but in those states that they've cohabitated in with many

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Speaker 8: of their Arab friends and brethren and compatriots. They haven't

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Speaker 8: been able to take over the capital. And if that

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Speaker 8: isn't the aim of this sort of an operation, does

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Speaker 8: Iran wants In its history about one hundred and some

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Speaker 8: odd years ago, one hundred and twenty years ago, had

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Speaker 8: various different ethnic groups, but primarily Lures and Bachtiaris from

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Speaker 8: and that was a key part of the constitutional revolution.

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Speaker 8: Arming a sectarian insurgency that isn't popular even in the

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Speaker 8: regions that it controls. You know, there are terrain wars

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Speaker 8: as well as within Iraqi curves, as well as within

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Speaker 8: several other Kurdish groups. They may have come together in

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Speaker 8: the short term, but that doesn't seem to be the

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Speaker 8: recipe for success, stability, or prosperity in the Middle East,

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Speaker 8: which this president wants, and I would say this president deserves.

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Speaker 8: So while I understand the need for a ground game

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Speaker 8: should be color blind, if you will, it should be

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Speaker 8: just the masses of the anti regime Irodians, regardless of

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Speaker 8: ethno linguistic background. And here, given the fact that from

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Speaker 8: the Woman Life Freedom protest to the present there have

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Speaker 8: that it has large numbers on its side. And if

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Speaker 8: perhaps the idea of a ground game is needed to

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Speaker 8: be entertained, that might be worth thinking how best to

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Speaker 8: actually use military pressure to drive street protests, because I

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Speaker 8: couldn't think of something else that might impede or retard

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Speaker 8: three Protest than Uncle Sam pairing up with an insurgent

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Speaker 8: group and potentially dampening the great amount of good will

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Speaker 8: that the President personally has been able to inculcate in

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Speaker 8: Iran policy for many years now. So it's more of

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Speaker 8: an alarm, it's more of a warning bell. And also

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Speaker 8: the President has been managing things with NATO ally Turkey,

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Speaker 8: which is quite challenging and quite precarious. Given the multiple

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Speaker 8: fronts the Syrian Front, Israeli Front, and all the other

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Speaker 8: way if there's a Kurdish insurgency near its border, given

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Speaker 8: the twenty plus percent of Turkey which is the Kurdish

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Speaker 8: versus the ten to twelve percent of Iran, which is

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Speaker 8: reportedly Kurdish, so things can spiral. And this is the

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Speaker 8: Middle East. Things can always get worse, not better. It's

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Speaker 8: hard to see how whether you're talking about the fears

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Speaker 8: of Balkanization from Iranian nationalism or anything else, it's hard

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Speaker 8: to see how this makes things easier for the president

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Speaker 8: rather than harder. But I think he does deserve a

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Speaker 8: pathway to victory given the risks he's taken in the

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Speaker 8: Middle East, which no previous president has been willing to take.

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Speaker 1: Bet that's a word I want the audience to hear,

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Speaker 1: and we'll put it up on YouTube. I hope everyone

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Speaker 1: sees that because initial enthusiasm for having someone on the

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Speaker 1: ground gives way to realism about the nature of the regime,

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Speaker 1: and we want the entire Iranian people on our side.

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Speaker 1: I want to ask you about the Goldilocks result nineteen

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Speaker 1: ninety one. It was too little. George H. W. Bush,

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Speaker 1: Dick Cheney, Colin Powell stopped after one hundred hours. The

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Speaker 1: Marsha carbs were slaughtered. They didn't go to Bagdad turned

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Speaker 1: out to be too little two thousand and three, too much.

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Speaker 1: We went, we conquered, we stayed. We're still there. There's

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Speaker 1: a civil war. It's a mess. That's been a mess.

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Speaker 1: There weren't any WMD. What's the goldilocks result here? That's

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Speaker 5: You know what.

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Speaker 8: You may not know it, sir, but you channeled the

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Speaker 8: quote I think from former UK Prime Minister Tony Blair

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Speaker 8: And that's because, with im Men's respect, I think we're

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Speaker 8: focusing on the tool, which is the nature of military power,

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Speaker 8: the nature of the intervention, the type of internationalism on display,

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Speaker 8: whereas really we need to understand the relationship between the tool,

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Speaker 8: military force and the target. It really is about these

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Speaker 8: different kinds of societies. I'm not saying we can't put

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Speaker 8: cases together and learn because fundamentally that is political science

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Speaker 8: one on one. That is international relations one on one.

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Speaker 8: We can learn from previous campaigns. Not every case is

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Speaker 8: sweet generate, but sometimes we do have to pay attention

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Speaker 8: to the differences, and sometimes we have to tailor the

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Speaker 8: tool to the targets and the kind of If one

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Speaker 8: is willing to entertain the costs and the risks associated

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Speaker 8: with military action, then we're going to have to conceive

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Speaker 8: of this first and foremost with respect as a campaign

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Speaker 8: rather than an operation. And it has to be a

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Speaker 8: campaign that paves the pathway for Iranian protesters. And this

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Speaker 8: is costly, it is risky, it is more protracted, and

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Speaker 8: it is bloody. But you cannot tell me that the

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Speaker 8: Middle East is anything but those things right now anyway.

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Speaker 8: I mean, the Islamic Republic of Iran is at war

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Speaker 8: with its neighbors, period, regardless of orientation, regardless of background.

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Speaker 8: It is firing at Azerbaijan, it's firing at Turkey, it's

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Speaker 8: firing at Arab countries that have oil VERSUS don't have oil.

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Speaker 8: It's firing at US bases, US diplomatic facilities, it's firing

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Speaker 8: at Israeli civilian targets. The Islamic Republic is widening the

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Speaker 8: war against everybody. So I think now more than ever

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Speaker 8: it's imperative to have a political theory of victory rather

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Speaker 8: than just a military theory of victory. And this is

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Speaker 8: where you know, the history is instructive because the Middle East,

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Speaker 8: not just America, not just Israel, not just Iron but

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Speaker 8: every actor that has existed in the Middle East has

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Speaker 8: had military victory.

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Speaker 1: Benham, are you old enough to Are you old enough

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Speaker 1: to remember Yosemite Sam, a Looney Tunes character.

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Speaker 8: I remember the cartoon.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, well that's what Iran's gone full Yosemite Sam.

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Speaker 1: They're just shooting at everything, but they're not hitting much.

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Speaker 1: Tell me about the numbers, how many launchers are left,

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Speaker 1: and what do you think is the damage done in

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Speaker 1: percentage terms to their missile arsenal? About what you are

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Speaker 1: the expert.

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Speaker 8: Well, that's very kind of you. There's a lot of

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Speaker 8: other good experts. But I do my best to keep

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Speaker 8: an open source, you know, tab on this kind of

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Speaker 8: stuff because this is the reason why the Islamica public

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Speaker 8: remains a state threat, and this is the ration now

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Speaker 8: for a defanging mission against the regime. This is the

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Speaker 8: region's biggest ballistic missile power, clearly using them. It's fired.

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Speaker 8: I think over one hundred and twenty odd ballistic missiles

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Speaker 8: at the UAE alone, for example, but up to a thousand.

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Speaker 8: I want to stress that for the audience up to

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Speaker 8: and over one thousand drones at the UAE loon. I mean,

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Speaker 8: I have to double check their records, but I think

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Speaker 8: the ballistic missile latest tally for March fifth is somewhere

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Speaker 8: between one eighty and one ninety depending on the source

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Speaker 8: you're using to UAE, not one twenty, forgive me, but

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Speaker 8: up to the one thousand plus when it comes to drones.

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Speaker 8: And this is because the regime is feeling the heat

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Speaker 8: as to the success of Israel and America's defanging strategy

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Speaker 8: against missiles and missile launchers, because it's forcing the regime

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Speaker 8: to take its quantitative advantage, which is the missile arsenal,

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Speaker 8: and funnel it through where it has a quantitative shortcoming,

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Speaker 8: which is the missile launchers. You can have a million missiles,

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Speaker 8: but if you have only two launchers, you can have

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Speaker 8: most only fire two at a time, and then you

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Speaker 8: would be very risk averse because you might lose one.

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Speaker 8: So the logic is to as the Israeli over the

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Speaker 8: Twelve Day War, go after the arrow versus Sorry, go

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Speaker 8: after the archer versus go after the arrow. Rather than

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Speaker 8: defend and pay for costly missile defense systems, go against

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Speaker 8: those who are shooting it. America, now that has entered

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Speaker 8: this war, can do that one step better because it

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Speaker 8: has heavy bombers. So if Israel can target the launcher

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Speaker 8: and America can target the launcher, with the introduction of

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Speaker 8: heavy bombers, America can target the subterranean IRGC bases that

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Speaker 8: house both the launcher as well as the missiles. So

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Speaker 8: think about collapsing the usability of the entire arsenal. And

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Speaker 8: the logic here is to replicate what America did in

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Speaker 8: the Twelve Day War when it had Operation Midnight Hammer.

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Speaker 8: Because it entombed the facile material. It did not destroy

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Speaker 8: the fisile material. It entombed it in the facility that

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Speaker 8: it destroyed, taking advantage of the natural geography there. So

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Speaker 8: you can make all of those little missile prisms and

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Speaker 8: allow the IRGC not to be able to draw on

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Speaker 8: them to fire at Israel, to fire it in America,

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Speaker 8: to fire at the Arabs, or to fire out who river.

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Speaker 8: So that should be the logic. Reportedly, the regime has

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Speaker 8: upwards of four hundred plus ballistic missile launchers. These are

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Speaker 8: basically large trucks that transport, erect and launch. That's why

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Speaker 8: they're called tels tel Transporter erector launcher. These various projectiles.

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Speaker 8: We don't have a breakdown as to in which bases

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Speaker 8: they are kept, but Iran has four chains of bases,

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Speaker 8: Western chains that are long the Zagros Mountains, Central chains

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Speaker 8: in the middle of the country south of the capitol,

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Speaker 8: eastern and along the Persian Gulf coastline. And destroying those

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Speaker 8: bases is going to be key to suppressing the fire

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Speaker 8: and defanging the Islamic.

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Speaker 1: Republic Anham thank you for joining me. Venham Ben Talabou

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Speaker 1: is our number one expert from the Foundation for the

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Speaker 1: Defensive Democracy on the Iran Mitchell prep. I appreciate the

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Speaker 1: time to take turned on you here. Welcome back, and

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Speaker 1: I'm q Hewett. Vic Mattis joins me, co host of

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Speaker 1: the Getting Hammered podcast, a brand new one of which

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Speaker 1: just dropped. It's called Boom. It's about the American war

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Speaker 1: with the Iran. He and Mary Katherine Ham go over

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Speaker 1: every aspect of it. I gotta say it was arresting.

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Speaker 1: Vic Matis hear you saying we wouldn't have gotten to

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Speaker 1: Morocco in World War two if we had the press

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Speaker 1: corps we have. Now, that's pretty good line.

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Speaker 4: That's thank you, Hugh.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true.

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Speaker 9: I was looking back into it, and that was Operation Torch,

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Speaker 9: and I think in that process of landing in Morocco, now, Jerry,

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Speaker 9: the Americans lost five hundred and fifty six uh and

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Speaker 9: then obviously thousands more who were injured.

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Speaker 1: This isn't even the Casserine Pass. You know, we were

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Speaker 1: back to Italy. We were all forget about it.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, no, forget about it, throwing the towel.

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Speaker 1: It's over, you can have it. Yeah, But what you

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Speaker 1: made me think, Ernie Pyle is not around today. Now,

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Speaker 1: we have some great war correspondence. In two thousand and three,

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Speaker 1: two thousand and one, John Fisher burned of the New

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Speaker 1: York Times, we had Dexter Filkns of the New Yorker.

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Speaker 1: I'm not, hey, we don't have any war correspondence because

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Speaker 1: nobody's in Iran or they're out of their mind. But

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Speaker 1: b they are predisposed to hate this president so much.

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Speaker 1: I wrote a column about this for the Washington Examiner yesterday.

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Speaker 1: They can't they'd rather America lose than Trump triumph. I

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Speaker 1: really think we're at that place.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I think that's right, Hugh. You can't help but

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Speaker 9: think that they're secretly rooting for, you know, setbacks and

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Speaker 9: anytime there's a casualty that's front and center and Trump acknowledged.

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Speaker 9: And you and I both know with an Operation to Scale,

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Speaker 9: you're going to have casualties. Unfortunately, that is the price

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Speaker 9: to pay to eliminate a threat like Iran. This has

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Speaker 9: been again a threat to this country into the West

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Speaker 9: since nineteen seventy nine.

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Speaker 1: I mean they've already killed you.

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Speaker 9: Know, hundreds, if not thousands, either directly or through its proxies,

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Speaker 9: you know, going into Iraq. If you think about that,

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Speaker 9: going all the way back to the Marine Barracks bombing,

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Speaker 9: and it had had something had to be done. But

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Speaker 9: as you mentioned, those on the left in the media,

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Speaker 9: they love skewering the Trump and this administration for any

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Speaker 9: small mistakes and errors and setbacks.

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Speaker 1: And this goes back to even.

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Speaker 9: Operation Midnight Hammer, where they thought that, oh, you know,

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Speaker 9: we didn't hit the mark and destroying that nuclear facility.

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Speaker 9: Oh that's too bad. Trump is wrong again. And then

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Speaker 9: now that we actually go to war against Iran. They said,

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Speaker 9: I don't know why he's going to war. We successfully

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Speaker 9: destroyed the nuclear facilities, so they they're trying to have.

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Speaker 5: It both ways.

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Speaker 1: They're broken, A lot of them are broken. And thought

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Speaker 1: I saw today Barry Wise and now Rank CBS hired

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Speaker 1: Aaron McClain from School of War, which is a fine podcast,

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Speaker 1: and brought him over. And I'm thinking, Barry Weiss is thinking,

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Speaker 1: if I want real talent that hasn't been infected by

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Speaker 1: newsroom itis or TDS, I got to go out and

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Speaker 1: find people from the podcast world who haven't got that.

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Speaker 1: And I don't blame her, no, And I think.

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Speaker 9: It's great that they picked my good friend Aaron McLain,

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Speaker 9: who I've known for many Oh I didn't know that.

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Speaker 9: Oh yes, he occupies the sometimes he comes by our

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Speaker 9: office and uses the office right behind this wall. So

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Speaker 9: I just saw him this morning and wished him congratulations.

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Speaker 1: Now that he's a media big shot. But Aaron was

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Speaker 1: in the Marine. Aaron's in the.

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Speaker 9: Marines, I really, you know, I mean, and he taught

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Speaker 9: at Annapolis. He's one of the smartest people I know.

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Speaker 9: And he's going to make a fantastic war correspondent for CBS,

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Speaker 9: and he's got that great podcast as well as you

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Speaker 9: mentioned School of War. My big question is to Aaron

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Speaker 9: hasn't opened any doors yet restaurants do you get do

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Speaker 9: you still.

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Speaker 1: Have to make reservations? I'm waiting for that, and then

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Speaker 1: I can you know, make use of Aaron I want

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Speaker 1: to make I want to let you know, Vic the

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Speaker 1: Salem News Channel and the Salem Radio Network, my podcast

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Speaker 1: does not get you anything. I want you to know

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Speaker 1: that doesn't get you a thing. I do want to

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Speaker 1: also ask you that in terms of Iran, they've gone

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Speaker 1: full Yosemite Sam. Now I'm using that on some people

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Speaker 1: who get it and other people who don't. Are you

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Speaker 1: the You're old enough to get that, aren't you? Yeah?

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Speaker 9: Getting the Looney Tunes a reference to Samity Sam. I

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Speaker 9: was gonna say, you know, even quite positively, the Tasmanian devil.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I mean, we're going all out, yeah, but there

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Speaker 1: was something endearing about the Tasmanian devil. We didn't likee Sam.

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Speaker 9: No, that's true, and he's definitely not Pepi Lapuugh.

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Speaker 5: Let's let me you know.

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Speaker 9: We know how the French are about this at the moment.

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Speaker 9: No again, as Mark Rubio said, they haven't even felt

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Speaker 9: the full brunt of the US force right now. I

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Speaker 9: do have some concerns obviously about the depletion of munitions,

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Speaker 9: and we need to ramp up the production of missiles

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Speaker 9: and to resupply the aircraft carrier battle groups.

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Speaker 4: So that's important.

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Speaker 9: But we just saw this amazing video of the US

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Speaker 9: submarine sinking an Iranian frigate, and people are upset about

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Speaker 9: that because that's in international waters, which reminds me, I'm

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Speaker 9: sure the US did that in World War Two. If

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Speaker 9: there was a U boat on the off the East coast,

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Speaker 9: I'm sure we just let it go.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they ought not to have declared war on US

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Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy nine or blown up the Marine Corps

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Speaker 1: barracks in nineteen eighty three. Let me talk to you

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Speaker 1: a little bit VIC about something. It's a complete right turn.

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Speaker 1: It's got nothing to do with anything. I was asked

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Speaker 1: to be on Fox today, so I read up on

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Speaker 1: a story. I could not believe that Fairfax County Prosecutor

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Speaker 1: mister D'scano let go a guy more than thirty times

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Speaker 1: who had stabbed, raped Donald and he murdered a forty

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Speaker 1: one year old mom at a bus stop. How in

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Speaker 1: the world do they sleep with themselves? How do they

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Speaker 1: get to bed at night when they release violent criminals

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Speaker 1: with detainers? With detainer I mean yeah again, Hugh.

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Speaker 9: A number of these prosecutors across the country. You mentioned

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Speaker 9: Steve Descano in fairfact, even in Arlington County, uh, prest

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Speaker 9: Gotti Tofty, She's also a Soros funded prosecutor. As you know,

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Speaker 9: Philadelphia is that way, the same way as well. They

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Speaker 9: really believe this stuff and it's disturbing because nothing good

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Speaker 9: can come of this. They're being released back onto the streets.

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Speaker 9: And for me, the big question, though, Hugh, is is

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Speaker 9: not when will these people realize what they're doing is insane,

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Speaker 9: but when will the voters, let's say, the voters in

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Speaker 9: the state of Virginia, realize that enough is enough.

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Speaker 4: What is their threshold?

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Speaker 9: Northern Virginia, as you know, is now heavily democratic, it's

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Speaker 9: heavily blue. You have a lot of federal workers, they're doze,

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Speaker 9: they hate Trump. What is their threshold for allowing murderers

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Speaker 9: and rapists back on the streets to commit What do.

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Speaker 1: You think does the story does this? Do people know

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Speaker 1: that a guy named Descana let a murderer out thirty times.

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Speaker 9: Yeah again, I mean we've done some reporting on this,

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Speaker 9: and again kudos to UH.

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Speaker 1: I believe it's Nick Minok who is done the reporting

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Speaker 1: on this as well. Locally.

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Speaker 9: I'm only now beginning to see other major networks begin

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Speaker 9: to cover it, namely Fox. I haven't seen whether or

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Speaker 9: not CNN or the other mainstream broadcasts are willing to

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Speaker 9: report on this story because it's definitely disturbing.

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Speaker 1: We're seeing now.

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Speaker 9: Multiple warnings from the police to the prosecutor's office saying

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Speaker 9: you cannot do this.

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Speaker 1: This band has committed.

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Speaker 9: Multiple crimes on multiple occasions. If you let him out again,

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Speaker 9: he will do something worse and he did. Where's the outrage?

881
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Speaker 9: And I'd like to know that, particularly in this.

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Speaker 1: State, so full circle? Do you think this is because

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Speaker 1: they hate Trump that they won't report stories that reflect poorly?

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Speaker 1: This guy was an Obama Department prosecut He went to

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Speaker 1: West Point by the way Descano, so he's a smart guy.

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Speaker 1: He's a military veteran, but he's an idiologue. We don't

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Speaker 1: need proscut Do you think that this story gets suppressed

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Speaker 1: because it might make Trump look Okay?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I know.

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Speaker 9: I mean because it definitely confirms what a lot of

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Speaker 9: people believe, which is they have a lot of concerns

892
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Speaker 9: when you let in, I don't know, nine ten million

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Speaker 9: illegal immigrants aliens into this country who haven't been vetted,

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Speaker 9: and what is a lot of them have actually committed

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Speaker 9: crimes and they're all beliefs and if they're out there.

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Speaker 1: You can't mention that because it'll make the president look back.

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Speaker 1: And there was a detainer. Retainers only exist for people

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Speaker 1: who are considered dangerous threats to the community. I don't

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Speaker 1: understand anyone not calling up by some saying take this

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Speaker 1: guy off our hand. Vic Mattis call him at Victorino

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Speaker 1: Madison X. Listens the new getting hammereds. Get ready to

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Speaker 1: get your Morocco map out. Thank you, Vic. I'll be

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Speaker 1: right back in America, State Jumner. Welcome back in America.

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Speaker 1: I'm joined by Josh Koshauer, editor in chief of Jewish Insider.

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Speaker 1: Josh Iran has fired eight salvos of missiles at Israel today.

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Speaker 1: Hezballah has wounded at least to Israeli soldiers operating in

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Speaker 1: southern Lebanon. As the effect begins, An earnest into Lemanon

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Speaker 1: to eradicate Hesbellah. So we're in the middle of a

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Speaker 1: very serious time and things go wrong in a hurry.

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Speaker 1: Six American service members have lost their lives. I'm not

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Speaker 1: going to make light of war at all, but i

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Speaker 1: want to ask you about whether or not you think

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Speaker 1: President Trump's Iran war could end up being the goldilocks.

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Speaker 1: For not too little, which was nineteen ninety one, we

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Speaker 1: stopped in Kuwait, we didn't go to Baghdad, not too

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Speaker 1: much treat just two thousand and three we went to

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Speaker 1: Bagdad and we never left. But just right, do you

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Speaker 1: think that's possible a goldilocks result?

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Speaker 10: Well, I think we have a long way to go

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Speaker 10: to really conclude that answer that question. I think this

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Speaker 10: is the playbook that Trump likes, very decisive strikes, so

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Speaker 10: that take out leaders in Venezuela was Maduro. The first

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Speaker 10: twenty four hours of the Iran operation, it was committely Ayatola.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 10: And I think the way things are going so far,

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Speaker 10: I think it's pretty safe to say that the threat

927
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Speaker 10: that Iran is going to put God to pose in

928
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Speaker 10: the region or through its proxies, is going to be

929
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Speaker 10: vastly diminished after however, this lasts, uh, after this operation

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Speaker 10: is finished, the bigger question, and the unanswered question, is

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Speaker 10: what is the leadership of Iran going to look like?

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Speaker 10: Is the IRGC, the Revolutionary Guard still going to remain

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Speaker 10: in power after this is over? Is there going to

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Speaker 10: be any any semblance of democracy? You know, Hugh, I'm

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Speaker 10: skeptical that without boots on the ground, without any you know,

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Speaker 10: efforts that there, I say, nation building, it's going to

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Speaker 10: be hard to shape the future Iranian regime and in

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Speaker 10: a more favorable way towards US interests. That said, I

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Speaker 10: don't think you need to get to that point to

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Speaker 10: really achieve a whole lot as part of this military operation.

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Speaker 10: So I think a lot of known unknowns, as Don

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Speaker 10: Rumsfeld like to say, But I think early indicators are

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Speaker 10: that the US and Israel are both achieving a lot

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Speaker 10: of their main missions.

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Speaker 1: All right, now, I want to switch subjects on you, Josh.

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Speaker 1: I am loath to talk about fringe commentary have left

947
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Speaker 1: or right, because it just is fringe. And when you

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Speaker 1: talk about clickbait, you add to the clicks. That's been

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Speaker 1: my theory for thirty five years in this business. Tucker Carlson, however,

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Speaker 1: today attacked Habad. I know Hubbad rabbis. Habbad members are

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Speaker 1: friends of mine. They are a good Jewish group that

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Speaker 1: does good work and support Judaism all over the world.

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Speaker 1: They've been attacked and Mumbai by terrorists. They've been attacked

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Speaker 1: in as recently as December at Bondai Beach by terrorists

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Speaker 1: by Islamis, and Tucker, whether he knew it or not,

956
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Speaker 1: put a circle on their back today. What did you

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Speaker 1: think about that? And are you doing a story about

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Speaker 1: Habbad to explain it to Americans.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, we have a story up at Jewish Insider and

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Speaker 10: looking sadly, Hugh doesn't come as a surprise. Tucker Carlson

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Speaker 10: has been mainlining pretty darn anti medic rhetoric on his show.

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Speaker 10: It's gotten worse and worse over time, and now he's

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Speaker 10: going after a very mainstream Jewish denomination that is full

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Speaker 10: of love and is Anyone who's been to Kabad service

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Speaker 10: or knows you know about emissaries, knows how warm they

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Speaker 10: are and how much they care about you know, Judaism

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Speaker 10: and spreading it to other Jews across the country and

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Speaker 10: the world. In fact, they have outposts in some of

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Speaker 10: the you know, in capitals of the world where there

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Speaker 10: just aren't many Jews, so Jews when they travel or

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Speaker 10: when they're on the road, they can celebrate their Jewish faith.

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Speaker 10: So the fact that, I mean, it's a very sinister

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Speaker 10: you know, I don't know what he's getting at. But

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Speaker 10: if you look at what Tucker's rhetoric has been like,

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Speaker 10: and you look at that interview he did with Huckabee

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Speaker 10: and a lot of the stuff that he mainlines on

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Speaker 10: his podcast, it's downright in the sewer and it's kind

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Speaker 10: of the you haven't heard anti semitism like that since

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Speaker 10: Father Coughlin in the nineteen thirties on our radio show.

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Speaker 10: So you know it really it doesn't come as a

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Speaker 10: surprise to me. And you heard Trump today say I

982
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Speaker 10: don't know what happened to Tucker Carlslon, But.

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Speaker 1: Do you think he actually knows that habad it's sort

984
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Speaker 1: of like Catholic focus. It's a I know for Abad

985
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Speaker 1: from their university towns. They usually go to university towns

986
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Speaker 1: and open up a habad house like the Hellel House,

987
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Speaker 1: and they're in places like Mumbai as it's the craziest

988
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Speaker 1: thing to put a target on them.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, it's dangerous too. As you mentioned, Hugh that there

990
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Speaker 10: was a terrorist attack in Australia in Bandai Beach where

991
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Speaker 10: a crazed terrorist slaughtered fifteen participants at Ahonica celebration sponsored

992
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Speaker 10: by Habbad. There's so many crazy people, Hugh, as you

993
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Speaker 10: know online, and I hate to give them attention to

994
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Speaker 10: Like these are trolls.

995
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Speaker 5: These are people who.

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Speaker 10: Don't have as much of a constituency as a lot

997
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Speaker 10: of people think they do. But sometimes perception becomes reality.

998
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Speaker 10: If if people talk about some of these extremist podcasters,

999
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Speaker 10: these fringe folks, they end up kind of creating their

1000
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Speaker 10: own constituenc that you're seeing this on the far left,

1001
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Speaker 10: Gavin Newsom and Oh my gosh, podcasts that are you

1002
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Speaker 10: know this, No politician would touch them ten years ago,

1003
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Speaker 10: and now they're going on these podcasts that are I

1004
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Speaker 10: would argue our antisemitic.

1005
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Speaker 1: Do you don't have to argue it is? Where is?

1006
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Speaker 1: Where is? Ram Emmanuel and Josh Shapiro today hitting Gavin

1007
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Speaker 1: Newsom for calling Israel an apartheid state and that we

1008
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Speaker 1: need to rethink are in the middle of a war

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Speaker 1: where Israel has proven to be the best ally we've

1010
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Speaker 1: had since World War two, in the middle of a war,

1011
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:38,240
Speaker 1: he suggests we cut off funding Israel. It's ridiculous, it's absurd,

1012
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Speaker 1: and he won't come on this show because he's afraid

1013
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Speaker 1: of going anywhere where he might get a serious question. Yeah,

1014
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Speaker 1: I mean the scary reality.

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Speaker 10: I think it's alarming and scary. But the sources by

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Speaker 10: which under thirty five year olds get news, you know,

1017
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Speaker 10: their social media platforms, certain podcasts, but a lot of these,

1018
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Speaker 10: you know, you get fed these ten second memes, the

1019
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Speaker 10: propaganda that's often not even you know, it's coming from

1020
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Speaker 10: outside the United States and sometimes coming from from our

1021
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Speaker 10: our enemies.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 10: And that's what a lot of younger people especially are

1024
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Speaker 10: are just gorging. And it's not a coincidence that you

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Speaker 10: see extremist views, anti Semitic views, just you know through

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Speaker 10: the you know, much much.

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Speaker 1: Much higher than with any other great question. So, do

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Speaker 1: you think it's your job, as the editor of a

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Speaker 1: platform devoted to Jewish news to go find a twenty

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Speaker 1: five to thirty year old, funny, smart, quick person, give

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Speaker 1: them a podcast, and promote the living daylights out of it. Yeah.

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Speaker 10: Look, I think part of part of our job is

1033
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Speaker 10: to kind of put good information, you could factual journalism,

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Speaker 10: good reporting, and people who can be engaging into the ecosystem.

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Speaker 10: I think that that is really the only thing you

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Speaker 10: can do. Frankly, Hugh, it's a it's sort of like

1037
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Speaker 10: the Tower of Babbel. People are in their own little universes,

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Speaker 10: speaking their own languages, and some of some of the

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Speaker 10: things that are being said in these mini echo champs

1040
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Speaker 10: are quite quite extreme and would have been you know,

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Speaker 10: the notes that politicians leading candidates for president would have

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Speaker 10: been all these shows and affiliating with these people would

1043
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Speaker 10: have been unthinkable a decade ago.

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Speaker 1: But that's for the reality. And I'm just I know

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Speaker 1: that Aaron McClain just went to work for CBS. That's

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Speaker 1: good news. I just like Jewish Insider to find a

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Speaker 1: kid who is going to be able to talk to

1048
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Speaker 1: the kids, because why are they getting crapped? Oh, I've

1049
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Speaker 1: got to talk to josh cross Hower. Follow josh on

1050
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Speaker 1: ex to Joshua cross Hower. Follow him a Jewish Insider

1051
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Speaker 1: as well, josh Crossauer, not Joshua Josh cross Ower. Follow

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Speaker 1: me to the next segment of the You hwish all right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, Grace America. I kicked off this hour with

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Speaker 1: Senator Jim Tallant, formerly Senator from Missouri, currently Senior Fellow

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Speaker 1: at the Reagan Institute for Peace through Strength. Senator Talent, welcome,

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Speaker 1: I've asked this question a number of times. I'm gonna

1057
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Speaker 1: ask it to you. Nineteen ninety one, in my view,

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Speaker 1: was the wrong war too little, and two thousand and

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Speaker 1: three the Iraq War number two was too big. Are

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Speaker 1: we going to hit the goldie blocked warrior just right

1061
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Speaker 1: given five days of what's just right? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: I think so.

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Speaker 11: I think the President and Rubio and Hexith have been

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Speaker 11: very clear.

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Speaker 5: The point of this war is to.

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Speaker 11: Defang our ancient adversary, at least five decades worth of adversary, Iran,

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Speaker 11: by taking out their ballistic missiles, their drones and their

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Speaker 11: capacity to produce them. And I'll say also, I think

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Speaker 11: this war is designed to settle forty seven years of accounts.

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Speaker 11: You during what time they've been attacking. They've been attacking Americans,

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Speaker 11: Americans abroad, American diplomats, American servicemen and women, and American shipping.

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Speaker 11: And you know what, you nobody does that to us

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Speaker 11: throughout history.

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Speaker 5: We've never tolerated it.

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Speaker 11: And finally, as Tom Cotton said, the butcher's bill is

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Speaker 11: being paid. There's an enormous overmatch there. This is like

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Speaker 11: I said, it's a turkey shoot in Missouri. We might

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Speaker 11: say it's like a duck going after a june bug.

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Speaker 11: I mean, it's not a fair fight. We don't want

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Speaker 11: a fair fight, and we're going to achieve all that now.

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Speaker 11: I don't believe we're going to get directly involved in

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Speaker 11: anything like regime change, but we are going to enjoy

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Speaker 11: the other benefits of it. The Chinese energy supply line

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Speaker 11: is a lot less secure than it used to be.

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Speaker 11: Hezbollah is a lot less secure in Lebanon than it

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Speaker 11: used to be. Remember, they're tied at the hip with

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Speaker 11: the narco terrorists in the Western hemisphere, and the world

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Speaker 11: is starting to believe that maybe.

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Speaker 5: The Americans are credible again.

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Speaker 11: Hey, can I close by reading a headline from the

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Speaker 11: South China Morning Posts, Oh please, which, as you know,

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Speaker 11: is one of the regime's mouthpieces. Here's the headline. Is

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Speaker 11: the US in decline after Iran strikes?

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Speaker 4: Maybe not?

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Speaker 5: Chinese analysts say.

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Speaker 1: All right, let me ask you this. When nineteen ninety

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00:56:56,160 --> 00:57:00,359
Speaker 1: one rolled around everyone in the post Soviet world, look

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00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:03,360
Speaker 1: at what we did and said, whoa. After two thousand

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00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:06,800
Speaker 1: and three, Kadathi called up and said, come take everything

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Speaker 1: I've got, don't invade me. What is the impact of

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Speaker 1: this display? And I mean Israel in the United States

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Speaker 1: together is an intelligent superpower on an exponential basis, and

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Speaker 1: our weaponry I just don't know how much of it

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00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 1: we've got, and they're being very quiet about that. What's

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Speaker 1: the world thinking that we're running out or that they

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Speaker 1: don't want to chance it?

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Speaker 11: Well, it is true that our military and Israels using

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Speaker 11: our equipment and theirs, is defeating an adversary that's using

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Speaker 11: Russian equipment and Chinese technology, and that can't be a

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Speaker 11: good news any good news for Beijing. You notice that

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00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 11: the countries in the region, which have been moving in

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Speaker 11: our direction anyway, are continuing to do that, which gives

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Speaker 11: rise to the possibility of a new equilibrium in the

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Speaker 11: Middle East. We've been talking about that ever since Operation

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Speaker 11: Midnight Hammer. And you here's the other thing that the

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Speaker 11: Chinese are not going.

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Speaker 5: To like about this.

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Speaker 11: If we can create a new balance of power where

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Speaker 11: the Israelis are the ones who are policing the region

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Speaker 11: at the behest and with the cooperation of the Gulf States,

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Speaker 11: Egypt and Jordan. Then we can draw down a lot

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Speaker 11: of our forces in the Middle East. And where do

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Speaker 11: you think we're going to send them. We're going to

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Speaker 11: send them to Indo Pecon.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 11: So no, this is this is not good news for

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Speaker 11: the aggressors in Beijing.

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Speaker 1: Tactical win, strategic win. Thus far bad things can happen.

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Speaker 1: It's early six service members have already made the ultimate sacrifice.

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Speaker 1: It could be a lot more. And Israelis are dying

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Speaker 1: on the ground in Lebanon today, and Iran continues to

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Speaker 1: say a fuselade against our allies set in a little

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Speaker 1: Sparta Uae. For example, let me ask you about the rebuilt.

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Speaker 1: They've gone Yosemite, Sam, and they fired off everything every

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Speaker 1: which which way to try and draw the air world

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Speaker 1: into this war and put pressure on them. They're just

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Speaker 1: not very smart in Iran, that's my view, because that

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Speaker 1: nobody likes getting blown up. And they fired off everything,

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Speaker 1: but we fired back a lot. To your former Senator,

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Speaker 1: if we wanted to, can Johnthon go to the Budget

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Speaker 1: Committee and Speaker Johnson go to the Budget Committee and say,

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Speaker 1: pass me a reconciliation that's defense only. We'll take it

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Speaker 1: to the Armed Services Committee in both houses, Committee of Jurisdictions.

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Speaker 1: Then we'll take it to Appropriation and we'll run it

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Speaker 1: through as a reconciliation and let the Democrats vote against rearming. Yeah.

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Speaker 11: I could do that, But the basic problem I don't

1147
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 11: think is money. Remember there's like one hundred and thirty

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Speaker 11: billion dollars in the big beautiful bill for defense, and

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Speaker 11: the Department has a lot of discretion in how they

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Speaker 11: spend it. The problem is capacity, and if there is

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Speaker 11: something that I worry about, it's running out of interceptors.

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Speaker 11: I don't think it's going to happen in this war,

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00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 11: but it is reducing our stock pile, and that's a

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Speaker 11: bad thing. So what we have to be to do

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Speaker 11: is to rebuild our capacity. On the other hand, there's

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Speaker 11: nothing that's going to produce that faster than a backlog

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Speaker 11: of orders, which I think you're going to see after this.

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Speaker 11: I kind of think we'll see if they do a

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Speaker 11: supplemental I don't think it will be by reconciliation. A

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Speaker 11: lot will depend on what the Democrats are willing to do.

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Speaker 11: But if we have to wait for the regular appropriations bill,

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Speaker 11: you I think we can.

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Speaker 1: Well talk about capacity, Senator, there are states all over

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Speaker 1: the country with defense buildings, and there are a few

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Speaker 1: that have none. Why don't we just subsidize capacity. And

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's three Unlock Lackeyed or Palmer

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Speaker 1: Lucky whatever he's running, or whatever Peter Thiel's running, or

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Speaker 1: if it's Palaeer, and just give them the money to

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Speaker 1: build the capacity and say we want it in two years.

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Speaker 1: You guys can do this. Why don't we do that?

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Speaker 5: Well, we are doing this.

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Speaker 11: I mean this administration is investing in defense production and

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Speaker 11: the defense industrial base to include the maritime industrial base,

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Speaker 11: as you know, you at an unprecedented level.

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Speaker 5: And two years some of it may be.

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Speaker 11: I mean the problem is again we have to replace

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Speaker 11: the interceptors in the meantime.

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Speaker 5: But you're talking several years out.

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Speaker 11: I mean, intention can change quickly, and we are intending

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Speaker 11: to bring up to build up the defense industrial base,

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Speaker 11: but capability can't. So you can't produce a factory or

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Speaker 11: expand a factory overnight. Well, I just I do think

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Speaker 11: the money is there is the point I was making.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm trying to talk about market signaling. There might

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Speaker 1: be a lot of money and it might be going through.

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Speaker 1: But I heard the most interesting conversation about the failure

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Speaker 1: of Pentagon procurement and the fact that for decades this

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Speaker 1: is not a Republican or a Democrat problem. It's a

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Speaker 1: bureaucracy problem. We have not been able to order munitions

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Speaker 1: in anything. Do we need a Minister of Munitions? That

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Speaker 1: took a full year of World War one's chaos and

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Speaker 1: carnage for a great brains to set up a Ministry

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Speaker 1: of munition. Do we need a munition zar.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, we kind of have one in the Secretary of

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Speaker 11: Defense or in this administration. The Deputy Secretary is really

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Speaker 11: in charge of that, Deputy Secretary Feinberg, and he's doing

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Speaker 11: a really good job. You're exactly right. The problem here is,

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Speaker 11: I should step back for a second. We at the

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Speaker 11: Reagan Institute have a National Security Innovation Base report card.

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Speaker 5: We've been putting it out for five years now. I

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Speaker 5: think a former.

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Speaker 11: Deputy Secretary, Bob Work and I headed a task force

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01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:38,600
Speaker 11: about six years ago put out a report and on

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Speaker 11: the basis of that we've been assessing every year. And

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Speaker 11: one of the biggest problems is demand clarity. In other words,

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Speaker 11: a consistent demand signal that the market understands is purposeful

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Speaker 11: and it's going to be there a year after year,

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Speaker 11: and so I think this administration is sending it. I mean,

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Speaker 11: we are buying munitions, but you are right. In the

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Speaker 11: past they weren't. And a big part of the reason

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Speaker 11: for that is that the service chiefs were saving money

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Speaker 11: on munitions in order to be able to invest it

1213
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Speaker 11: in their core weapons platform programs. And there was not

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Speaker 11: strong enough civilian leadership to frankly, just to make them

1215
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Speaker 11: put the money into two munitions. Now Congress would often

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01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:26,520
Speaker 11: plus it up. But see, that's not the kind of certain, clear,

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Speaker 11: consistent demand signal that will get the private sector to

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Speaker 11: invest substantially in new capacity.

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Speaker 1: I agree, And I wonder your student of history. Every

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Speaker 1: war teaches a new lesson, like World War two taught

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Speaker 1: us battleship's not so good, carrier is very very good.

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Speaker 1: Does this teach us that we need rockets, missiles and

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Speaker 1: anti missiles in a way that we've never fully understood before.

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Speaker 11: Yes, and drones unmanned. I mean, anybody can see it,

1225
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Speaker 11: just an educated layman and I can see it. And

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Speaker 11: we need sheep drones, which is one of the reasons

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Speaker 11: you this alliance with Israel is so significant. You notice

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Speaker 11: that the Germans. I don't know if they've confirmed this,

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Speaker 11: but I've been reading reports that they have a six

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Speaker 11: billion dollar defense deal with who with the Israelis because

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Speaker 11: they develop an adapt technology for military use better than

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Speaker 11: anybody on the planet. I mean, Ukraine's are good too

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Speaker 11: now on drones, and so I think this alliance is

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01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:30,880
Speaker 11: going to pay off. You talk a lot about Golden Dome.

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Speaker 11: We can't do it. I don't think without the Israelis

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Speaker 11: helping us, and they're going to help us, and we

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Speaker 11: need the alliance that has emerged. Oh yeah, the alliance

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Speaker 11: because we don't because of the bureaucracy and the red tape,

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Speaker 11: and they're doing better now.

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Speaker 5: We don't move as quickly as we need to move.

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Speaker 11: You and every Secretary of Defense, every Armed Services Committee

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Speaker 11: going back to when I went into the Congress, has

1243
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Speaker 11: tried to solve it. Well, if we outsource some of

1244
01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:02,840
Speaker 11: this to the Israelis and we get the technology that way,

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Speaker 11: I don't care.

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Speaker 1: I get the missiles, get the interceptors, get the drawn.

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Speaker 1: Jim Tallon, former Senator from Missouri and from the Reagan Institute,

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Speaker 1: thank you for joining me, Senator I'll be right back

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Speaker 1: in America. Stay tuned. Welcome back to America. I'm Hugh Hughet.

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Speaker 1: I hope you are watching us live on the Sale

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Speaker 1: News channel, unless you're driving home, in which case look

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Speaker 1: at the road, not at the Sale News channel. But

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Speaker 1: and on Pluto TV. I'm joined out by Seth Mandel

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Speaker 1: of commentary magazine. Seth, I've been asking everyone about this

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01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:43,120
Speaker 1: war and how does the president stick the dismount here?

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Speaker 1: What's the best result.

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Speaker 12: The best result is hard to prove, because the best

1259
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:56,400
Speaker 12: result really is Ron not being able to drag us

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Speaker 12: into conflicts in the Middle East anymore, and a region

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Speaker 12: free of you know, Iranian funded insurgencies and occupations and

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Speaker 12: things like that. But in the near term, I think

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Speaker 12: that you have to look at our golf partners, you know,

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Speaker 12: our golf partners. The economists just reported today that our

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01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:18,400
Speaker 12: golf partners are telling Trump stay the course because if

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Speaker 12: he if he doesn't, then and he leaves the Iranian

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Speaker 12: regime more or less intact, even without common A, then

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Speaker 12: you've got a sort of dangerous cornered animal over there.

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Speaker 12: And it's their corner, right, they'll be left in the

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Speaker 12: neighborhood with them they need at this point because of

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Speaker 12: everything that we've you know, as far as we've come,

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Speaker 12: you need to go all the way. So I think

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Speaker 12: that we should look to our golf allies. They you know,

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01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:46,040
Speaker 12: they they'll they will show when they are in a

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Speaker 12: position that is comfortable with where Iran ends up. And

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Speaker 12: I don't think we should get out before our regional allies,

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Speaker 12: including Israel, by the way, you know, feel like the

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01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:02,840
Speaker 12: mission has accomplished what it needs to accomplish and there

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Speaker 12: won't be blowback because we left too much of the

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Speaker 12: Iranian regime intact.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting thinking about it from the perspective reality. I

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Speaker 1: hadn't thought of that set. I'm thinking it from the

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Speaker 1: perspective of high school students. When I was a freshman

1284
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Speaker 1: in college, the helicopter left the embassy in Segon and

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Speaker 1: it was a disaster when you're too young to remember

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Speaker 1: nineteen ninety one and the absolute devastation wrecked on the

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Speaker 1: Iraqi Arby on the Highway of death. But that was

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Speaker 1: too little, and then Iraq two thousand and three, which

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Speaker 1: is probably in your wheelhouse. Is a young man that's

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Speaker 1: too that's too big. So the Goldilocks is what I'm

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Speaker 1: looking for, not too little, not too big, not a disaster.

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Speaker 1: This isn't World War two. Any idea what it looks

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Speaker 1: like to our youngsters, to people who are in high

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Speaker 1: school and college today, what a victory would look like.

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Speaker 12: Well, it shouldn't require anything like Iraq, so you know,

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Speaker 12: that's one thing to void.

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Speaker 4: But you know, again it's very hard to say what

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Speaker 4: victory looks like.

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Speaker 12: You have complete capitulation by the Iranians, but that's by

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Speaker 12: the Granian regime. But that's not really happening. Trump wants

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Speaker 12: to be involved in deciding who takes over.

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Speaker 1: For common a.

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Speaker 12: I don't know how that's going to go. It depends

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Speaker 12: on the regime that's in power. You know, victory is

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Speaker 12: really the military aspect.

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Speaker 4: Of this has gone incredibly well.

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Speaker 12: We expected that it would go well, but it's gone

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Speaker 12: probably even better than expected, more more efficient, more effective.

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Speaker 12: But I think then you have to grade it by

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Speaker 12: whether the regime that is left in power at the

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Speaker 12: end of this is materially different from the one that's

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Speaker 12: there now, and that Iran is set on a visibly

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Speaker 12: different course all.

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Speaker 1: Right now in the first year Rock War, we ended

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Speaker 1: up establishing no fly zones in the north and the

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Speaker 1: south that we patrolled from Kuwait and reinforced. How about

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Speaker 1: a no launch zone over all the Rock that is

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Speaker 1: patrolled by everyone in the Middle East jointly. Does that

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Speaker 1: look like victory because they can't They can't have these missiles.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why people are so dumb. They cannot

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Speaker 1: have an arsenal of missional to fire off like Yosemite,

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Speaker 1: Sam and everybody that they're mad at today.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, my sense is that they are uh that the

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Speaker 12: Israelis and the US are just going around and taking

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Speaker 12: out their launchers, their missilestock piles everything they can. And

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Speaker 12: there's been a lot of movement today toward bringing Ukrainian

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Speaker 12: expertise in on drone interceptors, the and the and they

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Speaker 12: you know what happened to the in the war in

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Speaker 12: Russia's war with Ukraine. Russia took Iranian SA heads right,

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Speaker 12: drones and and and just tried to send swarms of

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Speaker 12: them that Ukrainian and Ukraine had to figure out a

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Speaker 12: cost effective way to intercept.

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Speaker 4: Them because they can't. You can't.

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Speaker 12: You will be bled dry if you use updated missile interceptors,

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Speaker 12: and that's you know, the question around the movies. And

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Speaker 12: it looks like Ukraine is coming to the table and

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Speaker 12: they're not asking anything unreasonable, you know, for their own side.

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Speaker 12: So I think that the what's coming together is a

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Speaker 12: fierce destructive onslaught against missile Iranian missiles, missile producing factories

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Speaker 12: and the batteries, especially the mobile ones, and possibly away

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Speaker 12: for the rest of the region to be able to

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Speaker 12: afford whatever it takes, you know, to get through the

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Speaker 12: rest of this until Iran is defeated.

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Speaker 1: I announced that the big question. Donald Trump has broken

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Speaker 1: so many people in the ten years that he's risen

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Speaker 1: and taken over the Republican Party that I sometimes wonder

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Speaker 1: if they'd rather we lose this war than Trump gain

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Speaker 1: a big win. And the Democrats seem to have totally

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Speaker 1: lied their way as a pro American victory party. And

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Speaker 1: I don't know why Ram Emmanuel gets it, others get it,

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Speaker 1: but people like Gavin Newsom go on the Podbros And

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Speaker 1: engage in viril and anti Semita. What's wrong with the Democrats?

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Speaker 1: Eighty years ago they led the country to worldwide victory.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, what's wrong with them is that.

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Speaker 12: You know, it's kind of like the tail wagging the dog.

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Speaker 12: They're being led by their base. The progressive base is angry.

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Speaker 12: They're angry about Israel. And you know, Gavin Newsom, he's

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Speaker 12: not a guy who has any real firm beliefs.

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Speaker 4: He's a weather vane.

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Speaker 12: If you want to see which way the trends are

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Speaker 12: moving on his side of the aisle, you watch him,

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Speaker 12: and those trends are moving in this direction. He's clearly

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Speaker 12: spooked enough to say something incredibly stupid about our allies

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Speaker 12: on the ground in a war during which we're fighting

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Speaker 12: side by side with them. You know, whatever he might

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Speaker 12: think about Israel otherwise and aid to Israel, the answer

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Speaker 12: should be, we're not talking about this now. Right now,

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Speaker 12: we're in a war and Israelis are fighting alongside us,

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Speaker 12: and their presence there is, you know, making things safer

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Speaker 12: for us, saving American lives and making it less costly

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Speaker 12: for America to do this, and so now is not

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Speaker 12: when we're going to have the conversation about cutting them off.

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Speaker 4: But he doesn't.

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Speaker 12: He's just it's like the war isn't happening to them.

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Speaker 5: They're just so wearing it.

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Speaker 1: I need I need an exit question from you, though, Seth,

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Speaker 1: I try not to. For thirty five years, I have

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Speaker 1: not elevated the Alex Joneses and the crazy people of

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Speaker 1: the world, and I don't pay attention to marginal content

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Speaker 1: or left or right. Tucker attacked to BOD today. I

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Speaker 1: know too many bad people. I know how Bod rabbis.

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Speaker 1: They're on college campuses. I think he put a target

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Speaker 1: on the back of an organization that was attacked in

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Speaker 1: Mumbai in two thousand and eight at Bondai Beach in December.

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Speaker 1: Do you have any experience with Abod? Can you explain

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Speaker 1: to people what Habbad is and why it is not

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Speaker 1: It should not be singled out as a target. And

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Speaker 1: that's what happened today.

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Speaker 12: It's it's the core of rabbad is joy. It's it's

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Speaker 12: you know, they're a Hasidic movement, but they don't require anybody,

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Speaker 12: They don't really tell anybody what to do, and so

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Speaker 12: they get a lot of people. They go to far

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Speaker 12: flung places where there aren't synagogues and there aren't Jewish

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Speaker 12: schools and institutions and basically set up shop almost as

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Speaker 12: embassies of the Jews in a way, and through them,

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Speaker 12: if you want to get a kosher meal, you can get.

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Speaker 12: If you want to get, you know, a Friday night,

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Speaker 12: a Shabbat meal, or a place to go for Shabbat,

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Speaker 12: you seek out Rabbad.

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Speaker 4: They're there just to help, no matter.

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Speaker 12: What you believe, no matter how religious you are, They're

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Speaker 12: just there to sort of help.

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Speaker 8: So yes, it's ludicrous, it's.

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Speaker 1: Ludicrous and it's dangerous. Set Mandel, Thank you. Follow set

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Speaker 1: and thank you. Welcome back, America. I'm Hewett, joined by

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Speaker 1: Alaska's great Senator Dan Sullivan. Senator Sullivan, welcome back. I'd

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Speaker 1: like to ask you first a quick procedural question. Do

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Speaker 1: you expect your colleague Mark Wayne Mallin to get confirmed

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Speaker 1: quickly as head of DHS And if so, how soon

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Speaker 1: is soon?

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Speaker 13: Yes, Hugh, great to be back on the show and

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Speaker 13: the answer is yes. Mark Wain is a great senator

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Speaker 13: and an inspired choice by the President.

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Speaker 3: He's a really good friend of mine. But here's the thing.

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Speaker 13: He has great relationships across the aisle with Democrat senators

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Speaker 13: and uh in the House as well, so a super

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Speaker 13: well respected member of the Senate. He's made a huge

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Speaker 13: impact in the Senate. Like I said, I think he's

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Speaker 13: going to get confirmed very quickly. You know, of course

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Speaker 13: they'll have to be a hearing, but I will say

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Speaker 13: he needs to be confirmed quickly. But also the Democrats

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Speaker 13: need to stop shutting down homeland security. I've seen a

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Speaker 13: lot of government or partial government shutdowns. To you, this

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Speaker 13: is the most stupid, ridiculous and dangerous government shutdown, partial

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Speaker 13: government shutdown I've ever seen. Chuck Schumer's playing games with

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Speaker 13: the safety of the American people. We know there's an

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Speaker 13: increased threat from the Iranians in terms of terrorism, and

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Speaker 13: they've kept DHS shut down. It's ridiculous and it's got

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Speaker 13: to stop.

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Speaker 1: I want to remind the audience Senator at Sullivan is

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Speaker 1: also a Wawyer. He is a Marine. He's retired now,

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Speaker 1: but Colonel Sullivan is with us, and so I want

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Speaker 1: to ask you guys about the marine as a Senator

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Speaker 1: on Armed Services. Senator of Sullivan, how do you think

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Speaker 1: the war with Iran is going? Nineteen ninety one too little,

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Speaker 1: we left too little after a too little time. Two

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Speaker 1: thousand and three, too big, we stayed too long. Are

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Speaker 1: we going to goldilocks US and get it just right?

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Speaker 13: I hope so, Hugh, and look first to shout out,

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Speaker 13: of course, to our brave men and women and our

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Speaker 13: military their leaders. I shared a Readiness subcommittee hearing with

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Speaker 13: all the top vice chiefs of all the services yesterday,

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Speaker 13: of course, where our hearts go out to the warriors

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Speaker 13: who have given their lives. But this is all about

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Speaker 13: going after a country that, to be honest, and you

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Speaker 13: know it, you and I have talked about it. They've

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Speaker 13: been at war with us for almost fifty years. The

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Speaker 13: Iranian terrorists have killed and wounded thousands, thousands of American

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Speaker 13: service members. Heck, just in twenty twenty four, Iran was

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Speaker 13: actively trying to kill then candidate Trump. We were in

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Speaker 13: a hearing on election interference right before the election. I

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Speaker 13: asked the FBI Director appoint blank question, are the Ranians

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Speaker 13: still trying to kill President Trump a month out before

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Speaker 13: for the November twenty twenty four election.

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Speaker 4: Answer, yes, Senator, they are.

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Speaker 8: Wow.

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Speaker 13: So, this terrorist regime has been at war with US

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Speaker 13: for almost fifty years, and as you know, we have

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Speaker 13: needed to bring back to terrens with regard to Iran.

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Speaker 13: During the Biden administration. They could do anything they wanted

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Speaker 13: to our military. As you know, they bomb sent missiles

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Speaker 13: and drones at the USS Carney Destroyer in the Persian

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Speaker 13: Gulf over one hundred Hugh, and Biden never did anything

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Speaker 13: to retaliate. Those days are over, and I think right

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Speaker 13: now the conflict is going well, but it's early days,

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Speaker 13: and you know there's going to be more challenges.

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Speaker 1: Certainly, Sartah, you're a Chair of Readiness of Armed Services,

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Speaker 1: so you're the perfect guest to ask this. There's a

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Speaker 1: lot of buzz in the media, uninformed as usual, because

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Speaker 1: I don't know anything. Nobody knows anything you would about

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Speaker 1: our munition stockpiles. Do we need do we need a reconciliation,

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Speaker 1: a supplemental, or a quick appropriation in order to restock

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Speaker 1: what we have expended and to build more of what

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Speaker 1: we are finding to be of particular use in the

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Speaker 1: new era of war.

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Speaker 13: Look, I'm going to leave that request up to the

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Speaker 13: Department of Defense and the President. If there is we

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Speaker 13: should rapidly move a supplemental with regard to munitions. But Hugh,

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Speaker 13: I've been in three briefings, one classified, two unclassified hearings

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Speaker 13: this past week and I've asked that question every time,

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Speaker 13: and I think the answer, I know the answers. We

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Speaker 13: have enough munitions, certainly to not only prosecute this conflict

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Speaker 13: with Iran, but to be able to defend our interests

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Speaker 13: in other parts.

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Speaker 4: Of the world and especially into pay COOM, and I've

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Speaker 4: asked that.

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Speaker 13: I asked that out of the Under Secretary for Policy

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Speaker 13: Bridge Colby in Armed Services hearing this week. I asked

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Speaker 13: it of all the Vice service chiefs, and what I

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Speaker 13: wanted them to say was, Hey, if you're a country

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Speaker 13: and you think you're reading about munitions being low and

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Speaker 13: you want to do something aggressive and in another part

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Speaker 13: of the world, don't do it, because we do have

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Speaker 13: the capacity, we do have the capability, and we do

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Speaker 13: have the mission of the munitions to defend our interests,

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Speaker 13: including in the Taiwan straight So that's a message for Shijinping.

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Speaker 13: I asked that directly of some witnesses. So that's the answer.

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Speaker 13: We clearly have the capacity. Do we need to do

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Speaker 13: more in the defense industrial base? Absolutely, And that was

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Speaker 13: a big part of my readiness hearing that I shared yesterday.

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Speaker 13: We had a long way to go. I think we're

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Speaker 13: getting on it. Under President Trump. What I particularly like

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Speaker 13: was what he and Secretary Hegseth noted that they're going

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Speaker 13: to put out in terms of the budget a one

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Speaker 13: point five trillion dollar top line. We talked about that

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Speaker 13: end up my hearing yesterday. But we have a long

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Speaker 13: way to go on the defense industrial base. But we

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Speaker 13: do have the munitions night right now. And if you're

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Speaker 13: a dictatorship or a country that wants to cause trouble

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Speaker 13: because you think we don't have the capability, don't do it,

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Speaker 13: because you'll be surprised we do, all right.

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Speaker 1: Last question, Senator, Alaska would be the front edge of

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Speaker 1: Golden Dome. I know that you've used your position, your

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Speaker 1: seniority to advance Golden Dome for Alaska in the country.

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Speaker 1: Are we moving fast enough on that?

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Speaker 13: You know, Hugh, there's so much going on in Alaska,

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Speaker 13: it's unbelievable. Last night we had another Russian bear bomber

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Speaker 13: incursion into our aid is. You know, this doesn't even

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Speaker 13: make the news anymore. They're being so aggressive up in Alaska.

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Speaker 13: We've had two Russian bear bomber incursions with fighters in

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Speaker 13: the last three weeks. Our military, which they always do,

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Speaker 13: they do a great job of going out. We had

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Speaker 13: F twenty two's F thirty fives a wax tankers going

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Speaker 13: to intercept these Russians. So once again they did a

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Speaker 13: great job in my state. So we are on the

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Speaker 13: front lines of this new air of authoritarian aggression with

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Speaker 13: Russia and China in the northern part of America, in

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Speaker 13: the Arctic, in the North Pacific, seeing that all the

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Speaker 13: time in Aska. But Alaska you mentioned it, Hugh, were

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Speaker 13: also the cornerstone of missile defense for the country. All

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Speaker 13: the ground based missile interceptors that we have protecting America,

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Speaker 13: with the exception of four in California, they're all in Alaska.

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Speaker 13: All the big radar systems the track incoming ballistic missiles

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Speaker 13: are in Alaska. So but what the Golden Dome does,

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Speaker 13: it's going to build out that system and it's going

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Speaker 13: to integrate it with a space space system in terms

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Speaker 13: of tracking in space space interceptors. We had a down

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Speaker 13: payment of twenty five billion dollars for that in the

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Speaker 13: budget reconciliation bill. The President's provided great leadership. Senator Kramer

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Speaker 13: and I got legislation in the NBAA this year to

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Speaker 13: kind of put into law of the Golden Dome initiative,

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Speaker 13: but we need to accelerate it more.

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Speaker 4: There's a lot more work to do, so to answer your.

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Speaker 13: Question, a good start, but we need to accelerate it

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Speaker 13: because it's a really important initiative, especially during a dangerous time.

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Speaker 1: Senator Dan Sullivan, thank you for joining me on the

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Speaker 1: Uhuit Show.