1 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:08,799 Speaker 1: Life Audio. Hey Aron, Welcome to the Praying Christian Women podcast. 2 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: I'm Jamie Hampton and I'm excited to be back today 3 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: with another blest from the past. So we are going 4 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: to be revisiting episode two of the Praying Christian Women podcast. 5 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: You will not be able to find episodes one through 6 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 1: four on any of our podcast feeds because for some 7 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: reason it got lost when we migrated over from another 8 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: podcasting host at one point many years ago. This first 9 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: aired in October of twenty eighteen. And what I love 10 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 1: about these episodes last week we aired episode one. I 11 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: love that they kind of get back to us explaining 12 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 1: our heart for praying Christian Women. Why we even decided 13 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: to create a podcast called Praying Christian Women. We had 14 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: a podcast called The Prevailing Prayer Podcast before, but it 15 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 1: felt a lot more scripted, felt a lot more focused 16 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:07,479 Speaker 1: on prayer as an act, and we wanted to sort 17 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: of shift the feeling of our ministry, not away from 18 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: prayer in any regard, but to make it all about prayer, 19 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: but to include the component of the Body of Christ, 20 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:22,919 Speaker 1: the body of women that make up Praying Christian Women. 21 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: The Bible. The more I read, the more the Bible 22 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 1: speaks about unity in the Body of Christ and the 23 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: fact that we are not designed to operate in a vacuum. 24 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 1: We're designed to operate as a community, and that community 25 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 1: is global. And so that's kind of what Praying Christian 26 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: Women embodies, is the fact that prayer is absolutely the 27 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: reason why we do what we do. But the way 28 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 1: that that gets accomplished, the method of how prayer is 29 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: really going to make a difference in the most meaningful 30 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: way is by embracing what God tells us is the 31 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: point of it all, which is many members of the 32 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 1: Body of Christ coming together with so many differences. We 33 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 1: all pray differently, we look differently, we learn differently, we 34 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: are motivated differently, But when we all come together for 35 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 1: a common goal, then we are accomplishing far more than 36 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: the sum of us as individuals could ever have gotten accomplished. 37 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: So God is at work and we are so excited 38 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 1: that you're part of the Praying Christian Women community. And 39 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 1: today's episode, I'm going to give a spoiler. The title 40 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: of this episode is the one component of prayer nearly 41 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: all of us neglect, and I'm going to just tell 42 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: you it's about confession. And so confession is something that 43 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: can sound kind of scary, it can sound kind of daunting, 44 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 1: because it's not something that most of us think a 45 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: whole lot about. I know our listeners that are from 46 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: a Catholic tradition or any tradition where confession is a 47 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: regular sacrament and a part of your routine and your 48 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: practice as a believer, then maybe you are focusing on 49 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: that more. But for those of us who are in 50 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 1: more of a non denominational or a Protestant faith, we 51 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 1: don't necessarily focus on confession. But the Bible is not silent. 52 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: It is far from silent on this issue. And in fact, 53 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 1: confession is an important part of healing in the body 54 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: of Christ individually as a body, It's paramount, it's so important. 55 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: So I cannot wait to share this episode with you. 56 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: Please continue to keep Alana in your prayers. She's healing 57 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: from the flu and it's a long road and we 58 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: just really continue to pray for her and for her 59 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: family to be restored to one hundred percent complete health. 60 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: All right, without further ado, here is our episode on confession. 61 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 2: Hi guys, this is a Lona welcome and thank you 62 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 2: for joining us at the Praying to Women Podcast. We 63 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 2: are thrilled to have you here today. We're going to 64 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 2: be talking about the one component of prayer that nearly 65 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 2: all of us neglect. But before we jump into our discussion, 66 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 2: we're going to open with the word of prayer. 67 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: God, we just thank you for this day, and we 68 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: just pray that you would be present with us and 69 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: just open our hearts and our minds to your teaching, 70 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 1: to your spirit. Let our hearts become your heart, God, 71 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: and we just pray that you'd be glorified in this 72 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: podcast in Jesus' name. Amen. 73 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 2: Amen. 74 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: Our verse of the day is James five sixteen. Therefore, 75 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: confess your sins to each other and pray for each 76 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 1: other so that you may be healed. The prayer of 77 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 1: a righteous person is powerful and effective. And this verse 78 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: I love the fact that it talks about confessing in 79 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: relation to healing. You know, to that confession it purges 80 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: the infection of sin. It's actually a healing process, and 81 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 1: it makes us right before God. Not that the atoning 82 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 1: work of Jesus didn't make us right before God forever, 83 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: but it purges us and removes the prayer block of sin, 84 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: and it makes us aware of that sin. So We're 85 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: going to be talking today about the one component of 86 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:14,599 Speaker 1: prayer that nearly all of us neglect, and that is confession. 87 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 2: Spoiler alert, spoiler alert. Well, what we like to do, 88 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 2: if you're new to this podcast is we like to 89 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 2: start off with it just for fun questions. So today 90 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 2: I'm asking Jamie, what's the worst trouble you got into 91 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 2: when you were a kid. 92 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 1: The thing that comes to mind is just so silly. 93 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: You know. I was definitely a compliant child, and I 94 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 1: did not like to get in trouble. But you know 95 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 1: the Brownies, how they're part of Girl Scouts. I was 96 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: a Brownie for one year and we went to this 97 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 1: little camp where they had these bunks. We brought our 98 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: sleeping bags, but the bunk itself, the mattress on it 99 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: was kind of this like canvasy stuff. Anyway, I took 100 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 1: a pencil and I actually wrote Jamie was here, because 101 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: I wanted to be rebellious in pencil, you know. So 102 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: one of my friends told on me and said Jamie 103 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 1: wrote her name on here. And I didn't get so 104 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 1: much in trouble for writing in pencil, which could obviously 105 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: beat erace. But I lied about it, and I told 106 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: my Brownie troop leader that it wasn't me, and I 107 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: blamed it on my friend. It was horrible. I just 108 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: this is not me. Don't think less of me, people, 109 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 1: This is I was not a liar and a blamer, 110 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: but I was actually. 111 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 2: Kind of mild Jamie, Okay, but I just felt horrible. 112 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 2: Oh that's funny. Well, you know, at my worst trouble 113 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:33,599 Speaker 2: I got into is, Yeah, some people who were super 114 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 2: rebellious would just be rolling your eyes and laughing at us. Both, 115 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 2: that's you listening. We love you and we envy you 116 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 2: for having the courage to have the fun. We didn't. 117 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:48,799 Speaker 2: But I was part of a junior high youth group 118 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 2: and my parents were out of town and I was 119 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 2: staying at a ladies from her church for a little 120 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 2: bit and I asked to go over to spend some 121 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 2: time with another friend for youth group and she said sure, 122 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 2: And we baked cookies and we put the cookies on plates, 123 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 2: and we made little cards and we went doorbell ditching, 124 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 2: except when we doorbailled itched, we left a plate of 125 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 2: cookies on the porch for people. And her mom was 126 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 2: real sweet and drove us around. So we went, you 127 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 2: know to basically to people from youth group's house that 128 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 2: we knew, and eventually it got kind of dark, and 129 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 2: so it was, you know, after the sunset, and we 130 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 2: had one more house to go to, and we knew 131 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 2: this girl very very well, and we could hear the 132 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 2: TV on in her house, and so we rang the 133 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 2: doorbell and then we hid behind some bushes and waited, 134 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 2: but nobody came to the door. So by this point 135 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 2: we had had a ton of fun doorbell ditching all night. 136 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 2: So we rang the doorbell again and still no came, 137 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 2: and so then we thought it would be a great 138 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 2: idea to like pound on the door and shout things like, 139 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 2: we know you're in there, let us in. And what 140 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 2: happened was our friend's mom was home alone, didn't feel 141 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 2: comfortable opening the door at night, she didn't know who 142 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 2: it was, and then she heard people pounding on her 143 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,239 Speaker 2: door screaming let us in. So she called her neighbor, 144 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 2: who came running out of the lawn and Shannie, what 145 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 2: are you doing. And it turned out that my friend's 146 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 2: mom was pretty close with the family from church that 147 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 2: I was staying with, so called them, and I got 148 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 2: pretty badly lectured about making cookies for people. 149 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 1: Wow, that is pretty good. 150 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 2: Now that I am a mom, I don't answer the 151 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 2: door after it's dark if I don't know who it is. 152 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 2: You know, like I totally get that now, yeah, back then, 153 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 2: or like we just wanted to give you cookies. 154 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: Well, and just for the record, our question was what's 155 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: the worst trouble you got into as a kid? I 156 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: did get into a little bit of worse trouble as 157 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: a teenager. I will just leave it at that. 158 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 2: Ah, okay, yeah, we'll save that for another show. 159 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: Yeah or not. 160 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 2: Well, that's a great segue into our topic today, which 161 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 2: is confessing. And I think when people think about confession, 162 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 2: there are sort of two different ways. So we think 163 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 2: of confessing our sins to God in prayer and also 164 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 2: confessing to each other, which is sort of what our 165 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:26,079 Speaker 2: versus of the day was talking about. So we'll touch 166 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 2: a little bit on both, but mostly how we need 167 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 2: to be making confession a regular part of our daily 168 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 2: prayer routines. So some of this is going to be basic, 169 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 2: but we just want to spell out. I think it's 170 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 2: one of those things like sometimes there are things in 171 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 2: prayer life that I kind of relate to flossing your teeth, 172 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 2: Like everyone knows you should do it, and everyone knows 173 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 2: why you should do it, but not everybody does it. 174 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 2: And so why is confession so important? 175 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 1: There's an inner healing. I think that comes from regular 176 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 1: purging of the thing things that we know to confess. 177 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: And it also says the prayer of a righteous person 178 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: is powerful and effective. And you know, the definition of 179 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 1: righteous is right with God. And like I said, Jesus 180 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 1: made us rite with God once and for all. But 181 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 1: there are things that the Bible talks about that block 182 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: our prayers and block our ability to pray in God's 183 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: will because we're not connected to Him because of something 184 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: standing in the way. And so I think it frees 185 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 1: us to pray with more power as well. 186 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that that's a really good point that 187 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 2: if we have a whole lot of unconfessed sins that 188 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:35,839 Speaker 2: have built up, it does really hinder our prayers. Ahead 189 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 2: of friends talk about a similar concept in the context 190 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 2: of marriage and how if every single time you and 191 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 2: your spouse get upset with each other, imagine it's like 192 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 2: crumbling up one piece of paper and throwing it halfway 193 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 2: in the room and you're sitting, you know, on opposite 194 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 2: side to the room. Well, no, that one piece of 195 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 2: paper isn't going to do anything. But if that goes 196 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,559 Speaker 2: on for decades, pretty soon that pile is going to 197 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 2: be so big I can't see each other, you know, 198 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 2: and it's going to block your communication. So I think 199 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 2: one of the biggest problems that I struggled with with 200 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 2: confession was I sort of saved it for just the 201 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 2: really big things. So basically it was kind of, yeah, 202 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 2: I'm doing all right. If I hit a major roadblock, 203 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 2: I would to ask God for help, you know, like 204 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 2: if I'm really struggling with this sin so much that 205 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 2: I can't get out of it, and I've sent switched 206 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 2: to try to think about it just in terms of 207 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 2: I think it's Beth Moore who talks about keeping short 208 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 2: accounts with God, you know, so like end of every day, 209 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 2: going through the things from that day so they. 210 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: Don't build up. What I've found is that when I 211 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: start being intentional and regular, then I think of more 212 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: things that it's not just the things that are just blaring, 213 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: you know, in the front of your mind, but it's 214 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: you start thinking of more things. It's like peeling back 215 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 1: layers and not for the sake of discouragement, but for 216 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: this of getting it out of there, you know, and 217 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 1: purging it from inside or becoming aware of it and 218 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:10,079 Speaker 1: each other part is important too, because you know, obviously 219 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 1: God hears us and we can confess to God. But 220 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 1: this scripture in James talks about confess your sins to 221 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 1: each other and pray for each other. There is importance 222 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: in confessing to each other, not just to God as 223 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 1: much as it's important to confess to God. And there's 224 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:27,959 Speaker 1: certain things that maybe you don't want to confess to others, 225 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 1: but there is an important element and component of confessing 226 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 1: to another person. I think that accountability. I think it's 227 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: the idea of confession can seem scary, but there is 228 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 1: such a freedom once you say it out loud, and 229 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 1: then that other person is freed to say their confession 230 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 1: out loud, and then you can pray for each other 231 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: and realize that it's a positive thing and it opens doors. 232 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 1: I think the enemy would love to get a foothold 233 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 1: in our lives and make us feel isolated, like, oh, 234 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: nobody has that struggle, which is kind of why I 235 00:12:57,800 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 1: was like, well, you know, I did have other things 236 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: as a teenager, because I don't want to make it 237 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 1: seem like I was perfect. I don't know. I admire 238 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 1: so much people that aren't afraid to let it be 239 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 1: known that they're not perfect. 240 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 2: Absolutely, yeah, And I'm really glad you brought in the 241 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 2: additional concept of confessing sins to each other. And just 242 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 2: like it's a good practice to make confession part of 243 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 2: a daily prayer routine, it can't be really good practice 244 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 2: to make confession part of a prayer partnership or an 245 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 2: accountability So, for example, Jamie and I, before we record 246 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 2: an episode, we have a moment where we just say, hey, 247 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 2: what do you have to confess? And then what do 248 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 2: you have to confess? And it took us a while 249 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 2: to get comfortable with that. You know, we were super 250 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 2: comfortable as prayer partners, and we were super comfortable, you know, 251 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 2: closing our conversations with how can I be praying for you? 252 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 2: We prayed together a ton, but it was a few 253 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 2: years before we started making confession regular. Until then, it 254 00:13:56,920 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 2: was just one of those really big scary things that 255 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 2: if there was a major, big struggle, you might find 256 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 2: the courage to bring it up. But now I find 257 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 2: that since I know that when we record we're going 258 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 2: to ask each other this. It also helps me to 259 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 2: become aware of things throughout the day. You know, oh, 260 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 2: I'm going to have to remember to tell Jamie this well. 261 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: And there have even been times when I'll say, oh, 262 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 1: I knew that there was something that came to mind, 263 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: and I thought, oh, because I knew that we were 264 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 1: going to record and we were going to talk about it, 265 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: but I couldn't remember it once we came together, but 266 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: that the day before I was aware of it, and 267 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: I confessed it to God right then and there, and 268 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: I thought, well, I guess maybe I'm done with that, 269 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: and that's okay. So even if you don't get to 270 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 1: the point of confessing it out loud to someone, just 271 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: to get your mind used to thinking in terms of checking, 272 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 1: like the little red flag going up when you check yourself. 273 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, right right. It's a great habit to get into. 274 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 2: One thing that I do in my prayer journal. At 275 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 2: the end of the day, I list the things I'm 276 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 2: grateful for, and then I also have a section where 277 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 2: I list what I need to confess. And here's another 278 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 2: thing about confession, and it doesn't have to just be 279 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 2: the things you did wrong. You can also be confessing 280 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 2: your temptations, you can be confessing your struggles. Even adding 281 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 2: some corporate confession. I've started to try to incorporate that 282 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 2: more into my prayer routine. I'm trying to think of 283 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 2: who it was in the Bible with the king. It 284 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 2: was Nehemiah, and how in his prayers to God, he 285 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 2: wasn't just confessing the things that he did wrong. He 286 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 2: was confessing the sins of the entire nation of Israel 287 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 2: to the Lord. And it wasn't in a way of, 288 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 2: Oh God, I'm so glad that I don't do these sins. 289 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 2: It was God, have mercy on us. These are the 290 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 2: things that we do. So even adding some corporate confession 291 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 2: can be a really strong habit to get into. 292 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know, there was a time when I 293 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: was just praying one morning before church in our church 294 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 1: in Arizona, and I was just overcome with just this 295 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: feeling of I don't know why, but I kind of 296 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 1: started crying while I was praying, and I was praying 297 00:15:57,680 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: for the church and just kind of praying in general. 298 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: I felt this like tremendous sorrow and I just I 299 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: felt led to repent on behalf of our church and 300 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 1: it's not like we were going through this horrible thing. 301 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: But the Bible talks about how confession and repentance on 302 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: a larger scale can bring down God's power. And I 303 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 1: think it is something that until you said that, I 304 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 1: had never really thought about that as like a regular 305 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 1: thing to strive for. But that really is powerful. 306 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. You know what got me thinking about it is 307 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 2: I've had this horrible eyedryness. And I know I've told 308 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 2: you about it, Jamie, but my eyes have hurt so 309 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 2: much because they're just so dry. I can't even read anymore. 310 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 2: And I was joking with my husband and he just said, oh, well, 311 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 2: do I need to make you cry? I started to think, 312 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 2: in a long time since I actually have cried, I'm like, 313 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 2: you know, maybe having a good cry would be helpful. 314 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:05,679 Speaker 2: There was something about that. I was just reminded of 315 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 2: that conversation when I was praying later that day, and 316 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 2: somehow the connection was made in my spirit that there 317 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 2: are things that we need to mourn over, you know, 318 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 2: going on in this world and not in this judgmental, 319 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 2: hypocritical you know, thank God, I'm not like that tax 320 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 2: collector sort of mentality like we see in the story 321 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:27,959 Speaker 2: of the Pharisee, but really, in a God have mercy 322 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 2: on us, we are sinners. 323 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a really good point, and yeah, I'm interested 324 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: to hear what other people think about that also, or 325 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 1: if you've had an experience with corporate confession, share that 326 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 1: with us, because that's something that we don't hear a 327 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 1: lot about, So that'd be interesting to hear if other 328 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 1: people have had experiences with that. 329 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 2: You know what, I heard a really interesting correlation. At 330 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 2: one point, someone actually did an academic study about some 331 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 2: of the most significant spiritual Christian revivals that have happened 332 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 2: in the past few hundred years, and almost all, or 333 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 2: maybe they all start with a public confessing of sins. 334 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 2: And it's not a planned thing. It's just that God's 335 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:12,439 Speaker 2: spirit falls so heavily that people have no choice but 336 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 2: to confess and to do so publicly, which is important. 337 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: Well, so, when I was in college, the church that 338 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:21,239 Speaker 1: I went to, I don't know what started it, but 339 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 1: there was an invitation from the pastor if anyone wanted 340 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 1: to come up and confess like publicly, like in front 341 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:31,439 Speaker 1: of the church with the microphone. And at first it 342 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 1: was kind of quiet, and then someone, one person came up, 343 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 1: and then another person came up. By the end of 344 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 1: I mean, there was a line and the service had 345 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: to be delayed, and the second service had to meet 346 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 1: in a different room, or maybe we moved into a 347 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:46,400 Speaker 1: different room to continue. It was so powerful, and it 348 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 1: was yeah, it was very powerful. And it wasn't a 349 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:54,120 Speaker 1: confession on behalf of the church. It was individual confessions. 350 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 1: But it was really really powerful and cleansing. 351 00:18:57,160 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 2: I'm sure I was a kid, and we had a 352 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 2: decent sized church. You know, it's like in the probably 353 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 2: tens of thousands now, and at that point, you know, 354 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 2: at least several hundred, and you know, a couple of 355 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 2: different service times, and I remember being absolutely struck. I 356 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 2: don't remember a ton from that church, but I do 357 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 2: remember one point where they were getting ready to serve 358 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 2: communion and the pastor stopped the sermon walked down. It 359 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 2: was to the point where the church had gowing big 360 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:30,880 Speaker 2: enough that they needed parking attendants, and the pastor had 361 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:34,679 Speaker 2: been in a rush and had gotten a little bit 362 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 2: huffy with the parking attendant and he stopped the sermon. 363 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 2: He was so convicted and realized that he couldn't take communion, 364 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 2: you know, let alone a minister communion with that still 365 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 2: between him and this guy, and so he walked down 366 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 2: he publicly apologized, and if I remember right, you know, 367 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 2: like I was probably only like five or something. I 368 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 2: think I was really young, but the memory still stayed 369 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 2: with me. And if I remember, the parking attendant like 370 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 2: hadn't even realized that this had been a thing, you know, 371 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 2: like it might have been more the you know, like 372 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:09,159 Speaker 2: under your breath or rolling your eyes. But it really 373 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 2: stood out to me that our pastor, of all people 374 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 2: would lead in this way by example to confess like that. 375 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 1: Yes, and we had a pastor at a church that 376 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: we attended, and there was something that happened between him 377 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 1: and someone else and it was a misunderstanding. Personally, I 378 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,679 Speaker 1: didn't see that he had committed a sin, but that 379 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 1: other person had taken offense. And so he stood up 380 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 1: in front of the congregation and he confessed publicly, and 381 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:38,119 Speaker 1: then person by person he asked forgiveness. And that also 382 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 1: stood out to me just how powerful that can be. So, 383 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 1: you know, for people that are in positions of authority 384 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: of any kind, it can be really powerful to set 385 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 1: that example and put it out there. And if you're 386 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 1: a parent, yeah, oh yeah, going to your kids saying, 387 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 1: you know, i'm sorry I kind of lost my cool 388 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 1: will you forgive me? To show them what that means 389 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,439 Speaker 1: by example, one thing that we do with our kids. 390 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 1: You know how parents, if your kids get in a fight, 391 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 1: they'll be like, okay, now, so you're sorry. We have 392 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 1: really specific guidelines. 393 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 2: It's you need to say I am sorry for you know, 394 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 2: and mention what you're sorry about, and then to say 395 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,959 Speaker 2: the words will you please forgive me? And that's something 396 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 2: that my husband and I implemented when we get into 397 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:21,439 Speaker 2: struggles with each other. That's hard to say. It's so 398 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 2: much easier to say, yeah, I'm sorry, I'm sorry too, 399 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 2: but to go I'm like, will you please forgive me? 400 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 2: And you know, and to respond yes, I forgive you. 401 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 2: It can, and it does, whether you're talking about reconciliation 402 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 2: between two individuals or in your personal relationship with God. 403 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,399 Speaker 2: It keeps those barriers down between you. Something else that 404 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 2: I really like about confessing to others, you know you 405 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:46,640 Speaker 2: had already talked about, just the accountability and also sometimes 406 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 2: you realize, oh this sin that I thought was so 407 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 2: horrible and I was the only one in the world 408 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 2: this other person struggling with too. And I think another 409 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 2: benefit that can come from confessing sins to each other. 410 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 2: I think, especially as women, I think that sense of 411 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 2: vulnerability can create just deeper friendships and deeper intimacy. 412 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 1: It can. Now, what do you think, because I've heard 413 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 1: some people, I've heard two different things, and I don't 414 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,400 Speaker 1: really know exactly where I stand. What do you think 415 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 1: about the idea that you should be careful? Like, for instance, 416 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 1: when I heard this, I was in a ministry to teenagers. 417 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 1: I was a young adult, and one of the leaders said, 418 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 1: you don't want to glorify the sin, so don't be 419 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: specific in all cases of what the sin was. 420 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,119 Speaker 2: I could see that. Like, you know, if you're a 421 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 2: youth pleader and you're talking to someone who's struggling with 422 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 2: physical boundaries, for example, No, I don't think you need 423 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:43,119 Speaker 2: to go into detail about what your struggles were. I 424 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 2: think just saying hey, I was there too, I think 425 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 2: that makes sense. But when it's more of the peer 426 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 2: to peer, I do feel like in general, when you 427 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 2: get specific, that can take some of the shame away. 428 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, I could see that. So if you're in a 429 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 1: position of authority and influence, while it's good to be transparent, 430 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 1: you know, like with your kids, you're not going to 431 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: give them details of every single struggle at every single time, 432 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 1: or they could take a mission but to Yeah, definitely, 433 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: with peers or an accountability partner, there can be that 434 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: complete transparency. 435 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. And you know, this is a really good thing 436 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 2: to keep in mind when you're praying for your pastor, 437 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 2: because it's really hard. Who does a pastor go to. 438 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 2: You know, when my husband was pastoring a church, if 439 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 2: he had a struggle, he was blessed to have another 440 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 2: pastor friend he was real close to that they went 441 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 2: to Bible College together. But there are some pastors who 442 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 2: don't have that at all, or missionaries. I heard a 443 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 2: really sobering and heartbreaking statistic about the degree of spousal 444 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 2: abuse that happens on the mission field because people can 445 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 2: be so removed from accountability and it just turns into 446 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 2: when you have a struggle, who do you tell? If 447 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 2: I tell my sending church, they're gonna, you know, stop 448 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,640 Speaker 2: sending us a check. If I tell my missionary agency, 449 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 2: they're going to say I'm not qualified and I'm going 450 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 2: to lose my job. It can be very, very scary 451 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 2: and so I think it's important for all of us 452 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 2: to be praying for our pastors, and I think that 453 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 2: sense of just accountability is very important. 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