1 00:00:21,500 --> 00:00:25,820 Speaker 1: Welcome to Timeless Wisdom with Dennis Prager. Here thousands of 2 00:00:25,860 --> 00:00:29,460 Speaker 1: hours of Dennis's lectures courses in classic radio programs. Had 3 00:00:29,500 --> 00:00:39,940 Speaker 1: to purchase Dennis Prager's Rational Bibles, go to Dennisprager dot com. 4 00:00:40,140 --> 00:00:42,740 Speaker 2: Listen the Ultimate Issues hour on the Dennis Prager Show. 5 00:00:42,780 --> 00:00:43,380 Speaker 3: Every week. 6 00:00:43,580 --> 00:00:46,820 Speaker 2: At this hour, I talk to you about some great 7 00:00:46,860 --> 00:00:49,940 Speaker 2: issue of life. And it might be micro, it might 8 00:00:49,980 --> 00:00:55,020 Speaker 2: be macro, It could be religious, philosophic, moral, human nature, 9 00:00:55,580 --> 00:00:57,660 Speaker 2: some of the great questions of life. And I am 10 00:00:57,820 --> 00:01:01,380 Speaker 2: now you can't get greater than this one, certainly in 11 00:01:01,500 --> 00:01:06,700 Speaker 2: terms of ad mystifying much of humanity, if not all 12 00:01:06,700 --> 00:01:11,820 Speaker 2: of humanity. What do women want? And I raise it 13 00:01:11,860 --> 00:01:16,300 Speaker 2: because of the news item today about this tragic story, 14 00:01:16,340 --> 00:01:18,340 Speaker 2: And to me, it is a tragic story. And I 15 00:01:19,780 --> 00:01:23,420 Speaker 2: must tell you I resent any one in the media 16 00:01:24,420 --> 00:01:28,940 Speaker 2: making fun of the of the of this astronaut, of 17 00:01:29,060 --> 00:01:31,660 Speaker 2: making jokes about it. All I think of is that 18 00:01:32,020 --> 00:01:35,500 Speaker 2: we have here a mother, a wife, a mother of 19 00:01:35,540 --> 00:01:39,500 Speaker 2: three children, and and all the lives that have been 20 00:01:39,660 --> 00:01:44,620 Speaker 2: terribly affected by this, by this terrible story. I don't 21 00:01:44,620 --> 00:01:47,980 Speaker 2: find it funny at all, And and I even have 22 00:01:48,020 --> 00:01:50,540 Speaker 2: a very dark sense of humor but there's nothing funny 23 00:01:50,540 --> 00:01:54,340 Speaker 2: about it. But it does raise a tremendous question. We 24 00:01:54,460 --> 00:01:58,620 Speaker 2: have here the story of this astronaut. She has just incidentally, 25 00:01:58,700 --> 00:02:02,180 Speaker 2: it's just been charged with first degree attempt at first 26 00:02:02,180 --> 00:02:08,500 Speaker 2: degree murder. And here is a woman who both literally 27 00:02:08,540 --> 00:02:12,340 Speaker 2: and figuratively reached the greatest heights a human can achieve, 28 00:02:12,419 --> 00:02:16,780 Speaker 2: being an astronaut and actually being in in outer space. 29 00:02:18,139 --> 00:02:18,660 Speaker 3: You can't. 30 00:02:18,700 --> 00:02:22,139 Speaker 2: You can't get a more prestigious position in this country. 31 00:02:23,500 --> 00:02:26,779 Speaker 2: Maybe President of the United States, Maybe that would be it, 32 00:02:27,180 --> 00:02:34,260 Speaker 2: that would be the one more prestigious position or achievement 33 00:02:34,620 --> 00:02:40,579 Speaker 2: an astronauts? Is that highly regarded? And and what is 34 00:02:40,620 --> 00:02:43,060 Speaker 2: it all boil down to when all of a sudden done, 35 00:02:44,180 --> 00:02:47,540 Speaker 2: she's in the midst of a romantic triangle or whatever 36 00:02:47,580 --> 00:02:49,419 Speaker 2: the facts may come out as. 37 00:02:49,460 --> 00:02:52,580 Speaker 3: And she is not the issue for this hour. 38 00:02:53,060 --> 00:02:56,620 Speaker 2: But rather I use this only as an example to 39 00:02:56,700 --> 00:03:00,900 Speaker 2: say that I believe that a generation of women in 40 00:03:00,940 --> 00:03:04,780 Speaker 2: the post in the post and height of feminism period 41 00:03:04,860 --> 00:03:10,140 Speaker 2: from the sixties on, have been terribly, terribly misled to 42 00:03:10,220 --> 00:03:15,060 Speaker 2: deny what for most women is the greatest single yearning 43 00:03:15,180 --> 00:03:17,660 Speaker 2: of their life, and that is to find a good 44 00:03:17,740 --> 00:03:19,940 Speaker 2: man who will love her and whom. 45 00:03:19,740 --> 00:03:20,380 Speaker 3: She will love. 46 00:03:21,260 --> 00:03:25,100 Speaker 2: For the great, great, great majority of women, that is 47 00:03:25,180 --> 00:03:29,140 Speaker 2: their greatest and deepest yearning. You cannot say this at 48 00:03:29,140 --> 00:03:31,620 Speaker 2: a college campus. To say this is to be regarded 49 00:03:31,660 --> 00:03:38,900 Speaker 2: as a patriarchal anachronism, as something from the Stone age. Morally, No, 50 00:03:39,420 --> 00:03:41,460 Speaker 2: that's not what women want. In fact, there was a 51 00:03:41,460 --> 00:03:45,900 Speaker 2: Los Angeles Times Peace just this very weak. In fact 52 00:03:47,100 --> 00:03:51,940 Speaker 2: two days ago Los Angeles Times Peace titled she earns 53 00:03:51,980 --> 00:03:55,580 Speaker 2: More in that's okay, And it's about how many, how 54 00:03:55,620 --> 00:03:57,940 Speaker 2: often it is now that women are earning more, How 55 00:03:57,980 --> 00:04:00,340 Speaker 2: they are now half the law school students, half the 56 00:04:00,380 --> 00:04:05,620 Speaker 2: medical school students, that the ratio of college degrees is 57 00:04:05,660 --> 00:04:08,740 Speaker 2: now essentially six to four in favor of females, and 58 00:04:08,780 --> 00:04:12,860 Speaker 2: how wonderful this is. And they have this historian of 59 00:04:13,380 --> 00:04:18,659 Speaker 2: a family, historian Stephanie Koontz, whom I've had on my program, 60 00:04:18,740 --> 00:04:23,060 Speaker 2: and she is quoted here. There's a certain exhilaration that 61 00:04:23,140 --> 00:04:27,820 Speaker 2: women are feeling. Historian Kontz said, women have suddenly been 62 00:04:27,900 --> 00:04:31,539 Speaker 2: freed to pursue ambitions that they once had to channel 63 00:04:31,580 --> 00:04:35,900 Speaker 2: into finding a successful man, rather than being a successful person. 64 00:04:37,180 --> 00:04:41,420 Speaker 2: And that's the classic feminist and academic and elite statement. 65 00:04:41,500 --> 00:04:43,779 Speaker 2: That is what you will read and hear and read 66 00:04:43,820 --> 00:04:46,620 Speaker 2: and hear and read and hear over and over, and 67 00:04:47,100 --> 00:04:50,180 Speaker 2: that is what girls are told now. There was an 68 00:04:50,260 --> 00:04:53,860 Speaker 2: article in the New York Times magazine by a feminist 69 00:04:54,100 --> 00:04:58,420 Speaker 2: mother who was writing recently about how the idea of 70 00:04:58,500 --> 00:05:01,580 Speaker 2: her daughter wanting to be a princess and having princess 71 00:05:01,660 --> 00:05:04,620 Speaker 2: dolls disturbed her a great deal because it implied that 72 00:05:04,660 --> 00:05:07,540 Speaker 2: what she really wants is to be a princess married 73 00:05:07,580 --> 00:05:11,219 Speaker 2: to a great prince, when in fact, what she should 74 00:05:11,260 --> 00:05:14,780 Speaker 2: really want is to be a successful whatever it is 75 00:05:14,900 --> 00:05:18,940 Speaker 2: in the outer world, and make a nice income and 76 00:05:19,460 --> 00:05:24,420 Speaker 2: be a success in some profession. And that's what women 77 00:05:24,540 --> 00:05:28,739 Speaker 2: really really want. They shouldn't have, as the Stephanie Koontz writes, 78 00:05:29,580 --> 00:05:33,700 Speaker 2: they shouldn't have to channel themselves to channel their ambitions 79 00:05:33,740 --> 00:05:37,099 Speaker 2: into quote finding a successful man rather than being a 80 00:05:37,140 --> 00:05:43,300 Speaker 2: successful person. And so on this ultimate issues our I 81 00:05:43,420 --> 00:05:46,020 Speaker 2: I'd like to venture and answer to the question of 82 00:05:46,020 --> 00:05:49,620 Speaker 2: what to do. What do women want? And if they 83 00:05:49,660 --> 00:05:53,060 Speaker 2: know their nature, that's what they really want. They want 84 00:05:53,220 --> 00:05:57,580 Speaker 2: a good man to love and be loved by. That 85 00:05:57,740 --> 00:06:01,140 Speaker 2: is the way it has been throughout history until the 86 00:06:01,260 --> 00:06:06,260 Speaker 2: very modern modern contemporary period in American life one eight 87 00:06:06,380 --> 00:06:09,420 Speaker 2: Prager seven seven six one eight p R. A. G. 88 00:06:09,580 --> 00:06:13,339 Speaker 2: E Er seven seven six. Oh if only you could, 89 00:06:13,420 --> 00:06:16,339 Speaker 2: you could see all the emails and and and on 90 00:06:16,500 --> 00:06:20,300 Speaker 2: occasion hear the calls from women who have been very 91 00:06:20,340 --> 00:06:22,780 Speaker 2: skls successful and don't have a man in their life, 92 00:06:24,300 --> 00:06:27,260 Speaker 2: and ask and say, you know, I was really led 93 00:06:27,300 --> 00:06:30,420 Speaker 2: to believe that this is where the greatest satisfaction for me, 94 00:06:31,860 --> 00:06:37,660 Speaker 2: the greatest satisfaction for me really has been. I was told, 95 00:06:37,700 --> 00:06:40,020 Speaker 2: I should say I a woman. I was told the 96 00:06:40,020 --> 00:06:43,500 Speaker 2: greatest satisfaction will be in professional success. Well, here I 97 00:06:43,540 --> 00:06:49,900 Speaker 2: am making into the six figure income, and I said, oh, 98 00:06:49,940 --> 00:06:52,700 Speaker 2: I'll be successful and then I'll find a man one day. 99 00:06:53,340 --> 00:06:56,739 Speaker 2: Well here I am at forty years of age, and 100 00:06:57,260 --> 00:07:00,540 Speaker 2: by golly, I really am successful. Run my own business 101 00:07:00,660 --> 00:07:03,580 Speaker 2: or a really good top with a top law firm, 102 00:07:03,940 --> 00:07:07,980 Speaker 2: or whatever it might be, and the prospect of another 103 00:07:08,060 --> 00:07:11,500 Speaker 2: fifty years, and by golly. Most women have every reason 104 00:07:11,540 --> 00:07:14,540 Speaker 2: to believe that unless tragedy strikes, they will live till 105 00:07:14,620 --> 00:07:20,980 Speaker 2: ninety or more and they'll have the great, great professional success. 106 00:07:21,500 --> 00:07:23,220 Speaker 3: But that's not what they most want. 107 00:07:23,820 --> 00:07:26,300 Speaker 2: Now. I'm not speaking for every single woman on the 108 00:07:26,300 --> 00:07:29,500 Speaker 2: face of the earth, there is no such thing. But 109 00:07:29,620 --> 00:07:33,420 Speaker 2: for the vast majority of women it is. It is 110 00:07:33,460 --> 00:07:37,500 Speaker 2: a good man to and and I emphasize good man, 111 00:07:37,580 --> 00:07:40,460 Speaker 2: not any man. And there was a time where basically 112 00:07:40,500 --> 00:07:42,740 Speaker 2: any man who so long as he made an income, 113 00:07:44,580 --> 00:07:47,060 Speaker 2: made a living, that he would he would might suffice 114 00:07:47,100 --> 00:07:49,940 Speaker 2: as a husband. That that should not be. It should 115 00:07:49,980 --> 00:07:52,900 Speaker 2: be a good man. And I speak a great deal 116 00:07:52,940 --> 00:07:55,220 Speaker 2: on this program and have written a great deal about 117 00:07:55,420 --> 00:07:57,540 Speaker 2: it what it means to be a good man, which 118 00:07:57,620 --> 00:08:01,060 Speaker 2: which concludes first and foremost to take care of a 119 00:08:01,100 --> 00:08:10,180 Speaker 2: woman and a family. But the I believe, and I 120 00:08:10,540 --> 00:08:15,500 Speaker 2: I it it pains me that women, young women and 121 00:08:15,540 --> 00:08:17,980 Speaker 2: now now they're not so young anymore, have been led 122 00:08:18,020 --> 00:08:21,700 Speaker 2: to believe that their nature they don't have this in 123 00:08:21,740 --> 00:08:27,060 Speaker 2: their nature. Now as this Stephanie Kuntz right, women have 124 00:08:27,180 --> 00:08:30,220 Speaker 2: suddenly been free to pursue ambitions that they once had 125 00:08:30,220 --> 00:08:33,780 Speaker 2: to channel into finding a successful man, rather than being 126 00:08:33,780 --> 00:08:40,420 Speaker 2: a successful person, as as if success this defined success 127 00:08:40,579 --> 00:08:46,540 Speaker 2: entirely in the outside of relationship realm. But women are 128 00:08:46,620 --> 00:08:53,260 Speaker 2: relationship oriented. I remember the stories told by people who 129 00:08:53,380 --> 00:08:56,339 Speaker 2: raised their daughters in non sexist ways. They wouldn't give 130 00:08:56,380 --> 00:09:00,540 Speaker 2: their daughters dolls. And I think of the former president 131 00:09:00,620 --> 00:09:03,780 Speaker 2: of Harvard, Lawrence Summers, who told the story about about 132 00:09:04,100 --> 00:09:07,420 Speaker 2: his daughter gave them. He and his wife gave their 133 00:09:08,020 --> 00:09:12,740 Speaker 2: their daughter trucks instead of dolls, and to his to 134 00:09:12,820 --> 00:09:16,939 Speaker 2: his amazement, he found that his little girl had named 135 00:09:17,060 --> 00:09:22,179 Speaker 2: the trucks. Gave the trucks names, have a relationship as 136 00:09:22,179 --> 00:09:30,300 Speaker 2: it were with the trucks. One eight Praguer seven seven six. 137 00:09:31,900 --> 00:09:35,420 Speaker 2: This is what the deepest yearning is in female nature. 138 00:09:36,580 --> 00:09:40,700 Speaker 2: And to say this on a college campus today is 139 00:09:40,900 --> 00:09:45,820 Speaker 2: equivalent to saying in an astronomy class that the Earth 140 00:09:45,900 --> 00:09:53,260 Speaker 2: is flat or that the Sun revolves around the earth. Alrighty, 141 00:09:53,380 --> 00:09:57,060 Speaker 2: let's go to your calls here and one eight Praguer 142 00:09:57,179 --> 00:10:00,260 Speaker 2: seven seven six is the number we will as soon 143 00:10:00,300 --> 00:10:08,100 Speaker 2: as we come back. Poor woman, and the whole story 144 00:10:08,179 --> 00:10:13,180 Speaker 2: is heartbreaking. I think of the families involved. Here came 145 00:10:13,220 --> 00:10:17,420 Speaker 2: an astronaut, and still what propelled her more than anything, was. 146 00:10:19,460 --> 00:10:23,500 Speaker 3: In the realm of love and relationship. 147 00:10:24,260 --> 00:10:27,300 Speaker 2: We return and I will take your calls, including the 148 00:10:27,380 --> 00:10:32,620 Speaker 2: many that differ, if there are at one eight Praguer 149 00:10:32,780 --> 00:10:35,620 Speaker 2: seven seven six. On the Ultimate Issues Hour on the 150 00:10:35,660 --> 00:10:36,780 Speaker 2: Dennis Prager Show. 151 00:10:37,220 --> 00:10:40,500 Speaker 1: This episode of Timeless Wisdom will continue right after this. 152 00:10:46,060 --> 00:10:49,620 Speaker 1: Now back to more of Dennis Prager's Timeless Wisdom. 153 00:10:50,140 --> 00:10:52,740 Speaker 2: This is the Ultimate Issues hour of the Dnis Prager Show, 154 00:10:52,740 --> 00:10:55,100 Speaker 2: on hour each week on some great issue of life. 155 00:10:56,140 --> 00:10:58,500 Speaker 2: And the issue today is what do women want? And 156 00:10:58,540 --> 00:11:02,260 Speaker 2: I brazenly offer you the answer that they most yearn 157 00:11:02,780 --> 00:11:08,100 Speaker 2: female nature most yearns for a relationship, and it is 158 00:11:09,060 --> 00:11:14,300 Speaker 2: ideally with a man. I say ideally, because women are 159 00:11:14,460 --> 00:11:18,340 Speaker 2: so yearned for relations that if it isn't going to 160 00:11:18,380 --> 00:11:20,140 Speaker 2: be a man, it may well be and I do 161 00:11:20,220 --> 00:11:23,300 Speaker 2: not mean in sexual terms, but it may well be 162 00:11:23,420 --> 00:11:28,180 Speaker 2: with an animal. It is not coincidental that overwhelmingly it 163 00:11:28,260 --> 00:11:33,939 Speaker 2: is single women who work most with animals at preserves, 164 00:11:34,220 --> 00:11:41,340 Speaker 2: at places where where animals are taken care of, in 165 00:11:41,380 --> 00:11:46,339 Speaker 2: the animal rights movement, and that the passion to have 166 00:11:46,460 --> 00:11:50,220 Speaker 2: a relationship is so deep to love and be loved, 167 00:11:50,860 --> 00:11:55,980 Speaker 2: that it has simply been thwarted because they have been told. 168 00:11:56,020 --> 00:11:59,500 Speaker 2: As I read to you from this La Times article 169 00:12:00,179 --> 00:12:03,020 Speaker 2: about women earning more than men, and it is about 170 00:12:05,020 --> 00:12:08,380 Speaker 2: this historian Stephanie Kotz says, you know what it used 171 00:12:08,380 --> 00:12:12,300 Speaker 2: to be that women have to channel their ambitions into 172 00:12:12,340 --> 00:12:15,780 Speaker 2: finding a successful man. Rather than being a successful person. 173 00:12:15,860 --> 00:12:21,060 Speaker 2: But now women have been freed to pursue those those 174 00:12:21,220 --> 00:12:27,380 Speaker 2: successful and there's ambitions for success without a man one aide. 175 00:12:27,420 --> 00:12:31,260 Speaker 2: Praguer seven seven six, take your calls, your challenges, Shawn 176 00:12:31,500 --> 00:12:33,939 Speaker 2: in Fountain Hills, Arizona, Dennis Prager. 177 00:12:33,700 --> 00:12:39,660 Speaker 4: Height, Hi, Dennis, Hi, Hey, I understand, and I appreciate 178 00:12:39,900 --> 00:12:42,460 Speaker 4: your point, and I agree with you, But I'm wondering 179 00:12:43,860 --> 00:12:46,820 Speaker 4: why you're limiting it, making it exclusive to women. Why 180 00:12:46,820 --> 00:12:51,180 Speaker 4: isn't this a discussion about the deepest yearning in human nature? 181 00:12:52,460 --> 00:12:54,860 Speaker 4: I mean it, it may take more time for a 182 00:12:54,900 --> 00:12:56,660 Speaker 4: man to realize it in his life, but isn't it 183 00:12:56,700 --> 00:12:59,540 Speaker 4: a human virtue? Isn't it tacit to being a human 184 00:12:59,660 --> 00:13:02,100 Speaker 4: to want to love and be loved? 185 00:13:03,060 --> 00:13:03,220 Speaker 3: Yeah? 186 00:13:03,300 --> 00:13:05,820 Speaker 2: Of course, of course men want to love and be loved. 187 00:13:05,900 --> 00:13:09,460 Speaker 2: Of course, but unless you hold and you might. So 188 00:13:09,580 --> 00:13:12,900 Speaker 2: let's let's analyze that. Do you believe that women and 189 00:13:12,980 --> 00:13:16,300 Speaker 2: men have virtually identical natures? 190 00:13:17,460 --> 00:13:17,700 Speaker 5: Well? 191 00:13:17,740 --> 00:13:20,460 Speaker 2: No, okay, then then Shawn, then it is fair to 192 00:13:20,460 --> 00:13:21,939 Speaker 2: say what do women want? 193 00:13:22,060 --> 00:13:24,180 Speaker 3: As a specific subject? 194 00:13:24,780 --> 00:13:27,180 Speaker 4: Well, I mean, you're talking about all the attributes of 195 00:13:27,260 --> 00:13:30,660 Speaker 4: men and women, But to say that women are quote 196 00:13:30,740 --> 00:13:33,219 Speaker 4: unquote relationship oriented, which. 197 00:13:33,500 --> 00:13:35,060 Speaker 3: That that's their deepest yearning. 198 00:13:35,179 --> 00:13:37,780 Speaker 4: Yes, okay, but I mean that seems to imply that 199 00:13:38,140 --> 00:13:39,140 Speaker 4: men aren't. 200 00:13:39,300 --> 00:13:43,860 Speaker 2: And all it implies that men have a somewhat different 201 00:13:44,260 --> 00:13:46,340 Speaker 2: deepest yearning. And I'll give you, I'll give you the 202 00:13:46,380 --> 00:13:50,380 Speaker 2: way I would answer it. I believe, certainly it's true 203 00:13:50,420 --> 00:13:52,980 Speaker 2: for me that that is as deep a yearning as 204 00:13:52,980 --> 00:13:58,179 Speaker 2: anything else. However, men are not capable of being happy 205 00:13:58,380 --> 00:14:03,540 Speaker 2: with that as their primary issue in life, as their 206 00:14:03,580 --> 00:14:08,260 Speaker 2: primary achievement in life, as women would be. A woman 207 00:14:08,340 --> 00:14:13,500 Speaker 2: is far more capable of having satisfaction and happiness in 208 00:14:13,540 --> 00:14:17,500 Speaker 2: life being loved by and loving a good man than 209 00:14:17,540 --> 00:14:20,420 Speaker 2: a man is by solely loving and being loved by 210 00:14:20,420 --> 00:14:25,820 Speaker 2: a good woman. For him, more than for female nature, 211 00:14:27,140 --> 00:14:33,060 Speaker 2: outward achievement, Conquering the world is a yearning on that level. 212 00:14:35,420 --> 00:14:38,500 Speaker 2: And that's and what feminism has said is women are 213 00:14:38,700 --> 00:14:42,060 Speaker 2: like men and wished to conquer the world just as 214 00:14:42,140 --> 00:14:47,020 Speaker 2: much as men do. But that's not so. That's why 215 00:14:47,060 --> 00:14:50,980 Speaker 2: I gave the astronaut story only only as an example, 216 00:14:51,340 --> 00:14:54,260 Speaker 2: only to use it as a springboard for this for 217 00:14:54,340 --> 00:14:58,820 Speaker 2: this discussion. She obviously doesn't typify all women. Most women 218 00:14:59,260 --> 00:15:01,980 Speaker 2: don't get don't don't get involved in the in the 219 00:15:02,060 --> 00:15:07,620 Speaker 2: tragic circumstances that this astronaut has. So yes, men and 220 00:15:07,660 --> 00:15:11,740 Speaker 2: women are are different in their deepest yearnings. Thank you, 221 00:15:11,820 --> 00:15:17,420 Speaker 2: Shanna was an important question. And we go to Lakeville, Minnesota. Janet, Hello, Janet, 222 00:15:17,420 --> 00:15:18,580 Speaker 2: Dennis Prager, Hi. 223 00:15:18,540 --> 00:15:22,980 Speaker 6: Dennis Hice. I have lived there the whole nine guards. 224 00:15:23,140 --> 00:15:25,140 Speaker 6: I was a tomboy. I went away to college. I 225 00:15:25,180 --> 00:15:28,500 Speaker 6: got my first degree in education, and I taught elementary school, 226 00:15:28,500 --> 00:15:30,740 Speaker 6: went back, got the NBA, the CPA, worked for two 227 00:15:30,780 --> 00:15:34,220 Speaker 6: of the finest corporations in the United States or practically worldwide, 228 00:15:34,300 --> 00:15:39,460 Speaker 6: absolutely phenomenal. I retired about eight years ago, and so 229 00:15:39,620 --> 00:15:42,660 Speaker 6: I had the career, I had the travel, I had everything. 230 00:15:42,740 --> 00:15:44,940 Speaker 6: My first marriage in the early eighties was on the 231 00:15:45,020 --> 00:15:47,300 Speaker 6: rocks from the get go, but we did have one son. 232 00:15:48,020 --> 00:15:50,380 Speaker 6: Part of it was my own issues. But I am 233 00:15:50,420 --> 00:15:53,340 Speaker 6: now married to a man who is absolutely the dream 234 00:15:53,380 --> 00:15:55,900 Speaker 6: of my life. If I would have met someone, well, 235 00:15:56,100 --> 00:15:59,260 Speaker 6: I can say that, but hindsight you know, twenty twenty. 236 00:15:59,780 --> 00:16:02,660 Speaker 6: But he has become the father to my son. He 237 00:16:03,500 --> 00:16:08,500 Speaker 6: is he's a guide's guy, but we have a great relationship. 238 00:16:08,540 --> 00:16:11,500 Speaker 6: But I have lived this independent stuff, the travel, the 239 00:16:11,580 --> 00:16:15,580 Speaker 6: small family, and I am the happiest now that I 240 00:16:15,620 --> 00:16:16,260 Speaker 6: have ever been. 241 00:16:17,780 --> 00:16:19,900 Speaker 2: Well, you know what, you need to write your story 242 00:16:19,980 --> 00:16:23,340 Speaker 2: or go to college and and tell young women at 243 00:16:23,380 --> 00:16:26,980 Speaker 2: college that they're being served a false meal. 244 00:16:27,380 --> 00:16:28,700 Speaker 6: I actually teach college. 245 00:16:28,740 --> 00:16:31,380 Speaker 3: Now, oh good, what subject business? 246 00:16:31,380 --> 00:16:35,060 Speaker 6: I teach a management information systems. It's the business side 247 00:16:35,060 --> 00:16:35,940 Speaker 6: of computer science. 248 00:16:35,980 --> 00:16:38,780 Speaker 3: Yeah, it will in the humanity and naturally. 249 00:16:38,860 --> 00:16:41,300 Speaker 2: But if you could ever sneak this into the women, 250 00:16:43,940 --> 00:16:46,340 Speaker 2: that would be a very good thing. I thank you 251 00:16:46,500 --> 00:16:54,460 Speaker 2: very much. Alrighty, let's go two. Ryan in the Phoenix. 252 00:16:54,580 --> 00:16:55,580 Speaker 2: Ryan Dennis Prager. 253 00:16:55,660 --> 00:16:59,580 Speaker 7: Hi, Hi Dennis, this is Ryan Love your show. Great 254 00:16:59,620 --> 00:17:00,100 Speaker 7: to talk to you. 255 00:17:00,100 --> 00:17:00,780 Speaker 5: I appreciate it. 256 00:17:01,660 --> 00:17:04,380 Speaker 7: I'm twenty six, we'll be twenty six on Saturday, and 257 00:17:04,619 --> 00:17:07,940 Speaker 7: I'm married and we've been married for a little over 258 00:17:07,980 --> 00:17:10,540 Speaker 7: five years. And my wife has always thought of herself 259 00:17:10,540 --> 00:17:14,540 Speaker 7: as a princess. So I think it was kind of 260 00:17:14,540 --> 00:17:17,020 Speaker 7: funny when you said that. Even now you know, I 261 00:17:17,020 --> 00:17:19,300 Speaker 7: bought her like a Bible cover and it says princess 262 00:17:19,300 --> 00:17:22,859 Speaker 7: on it, and if you love that. But I just 263 00:17:23,659 --> 00:17:28,339 Speaker 7: I thought, I really appreciate the fact that she is 264 00:17:28,419 --> 00:17:30,419 Speaker 7: at one of those women who is looking for a 265 00:17:30,419 --> 00:17:32,100 Speaker 7: cecil man and hopefully I can become that. 266 00:17:35,060 --> 00:17:36,460 Speaker 8: But she. 267 00:17:38,100 --> 00:17:39,540 Speaker 7: I'm sorry, a little nervous here. 268 00:17:39,820 --> 00:17:42,459 Speaker 2: That's all right, It's totally understandable. What you're saying is, 269 00:17:42,500 --> 00:17:45,459 Speaker 2: at twenty six years of age, you recognize this to 270 00:17:45,500 --> 00:17:45,979 Speaker 2: be true. 271 00:17:46,540 --> 00:17:49,340 Speaker 7: Yes, yes, I do. I mean, I'm there are exceptions. 272 00:17:49,780 --> 00:17:54,379 Speaker 2: You're religious, I got from the Bible, right, Yes, that's right. Well, 273 00:17:54,419 --> 00:18:00,100 Speaker 2: you know what, this is one of the reasons that 274 00:18:00,659 --> 00:18:04,139 Speaker 2: a lot of people of the secular elite have a 275 00:18:04,179 --> 00:18:08,020 Speaker 2: problem with the religious in our society because you will 276 00:18:08,060 --> 00:18:11,979 Speaker 2: take this view and this drives them crazy. My wife 277 00:18:12,060 --> 00:18:17,340 Speaker 2: wants to be a princess. The Cinderella story is largely true, 278 00:18:18,580 --> 00:18:21,659 Speaker 2: that that is the woman's yearning. This there is a 279 00:18:21,820 --> 00:18:27,220 Speaker 2: huge denial of this. There is, in fact at the university. 280 00:18:27,659 --> 00:18:32,539 Speaker 2: And I'm generalizing because a generalization means by definition that 281 00:18:32,699 --> 00:18:35,699 Speaker 2: is generally true. Of course, there are exceptions to what 282 00:18:35,739 --> 00:18:41,580 Speaker 2: I'm saying, but generally speaking, at the university, the idea 283 00:18:41,780 --> 00:18:45,700 Speaker 2: is offered to people, and especially to young women. This 284 00:18:45,780 --> 00:18:49,539 Speaker 2: is not what you want. Deny your nature. You have 285 00:18:49,699 --> 00:18:54,220 Speaker 2: a nature indistinguishable from that of men. Sexually, you want 286 00:18:54,219 --> 00:18:56,899 Speaker 2: to be as promiscuous as male nature wants men to be. 287 00:18:58,100 --> 00:19:02,100 Speaker 2: You want to be successful in the outer world. Relationships 288 00:19:02,139 --> 00:19:06,019 Speaker 2: are nice but not central to your self assessment. 289 00:19:06,699 --> 00:19:08,379 Speaker 3: And it's all a lie. 290 00:19:08,619 --> 00:19:10,459 Speaker 2: We'll be back in a moment. You're listening to the 291 00:19:10,500 --> 00:19:16,100 Speaker 2: Dennis Prager Show, the Ultimate Issues Hour. This is the 292 00:19:16,179 --> 00:19:19,019 Speaker 2: Ultimate Issues Hour on the Dennis Prager Show. Some great, 293 00:19:19,179 --> 00:19:23,100 Speaker 2: great issue of life discussed this hour each week. This 294 00:19:23,139 --> 00:19:27,899 Speaker 2: one is what do women want? Based on the tragic 295 00:19:27,979 --> 00:19:32,659 Speaker 2: story of the astronaut who had theoretically the greatest success 296 00:19:32,699 --> 00:19:35,859 Speaker 2: available to an American outside of the presidency, to be 297 00:19:35,899 --> 00:19:40,700 Speaker 2: an astronaut and to be an outer space and and 298 00:19:40,780 --> 00:19:47,059 Speaker 2: yet brought down by her by her yearnings and the 299 00:19:47,139 --> 00:19:53,179 Speaker 2: tragedy of of of the of her being arrested now 300 00:19:53,219 --> 00:19:57,139 Speaker 2: on charges of of of attempted first degree murder, and 301 00:19:57,219 --> 00:20:03,580 Speaker 2: I my heart breaks for for everybody concerned. Frankly, I 302 00:20:03,739 --> 00:20:06,979 Speaker 2: I I see no ability to make jokes about this 303 00:20:07,100 --> 00:20:12,019 Speaker 2: that situation. I only use it though as a jumping 304 00:20:12,100 --> 00:20:18,699 Speaker 2: off point, because of the of the enormity of the 305 00:20:18,739 --> 00:20:23,219 Speaker 2: dishonesty of what is what offered to young women today 306 00:20:23,219 --> 00:20:28,259 Speaker 2: at college, that they are indistinguishable from men in their sexuality, 307 00:20:28,739 --> 00:20:33,019 Speaker 2: they are indistinguishable from men in their yearnings, that it 308 00:20:33,179 --> 00:20:36,259 Speaker 2: was all a bunch of patriarchal sexist drivel that their 309 00:20:36,300 --> 00:20:38,579 Speaker 2: biggest yearning was to find a man to love and 310 00:20:38,619 --> 00:20:44,340 Speaker 2: be loved by. Now no, not not true. You want 311 00:20:44,340 --> 00:20:51,540 Speaker 2: to be astronauts one eight Praguer seven seven six. Try 312 00:20:51,580 --> 00:20:55,619 Speaker 2: and alternate men and women on this, on this particular issue. 313 00:20:57,179 --> 00:21:06,419 Speaker 2: And let's see m m okay in the Cleveland at 314 00:21:06,459 --> 00:21:08,180 Speaker 2: sim Hello, sim Dennis. 315 00:21:07,859 --> 00:21:11,740 Speaker 9: Prager, Hi, Dennis, it's too because you met in Cleveland, 316 00:21:11,739 --> 00:21:13,899 Speaker 9: and if you ever want to go home, please call. 317 00:21:14,179 --> 00:21:15,420 Speaker 3: I remember you sitting in. 318 00:21:15,340 --> 00:21:20,139 Speaker 9: The front row right right. So I feel that the 319 00:21:20,340 --> 00:21:23,179 Speaker 9: love for my child, my son, it was much stronger, 320 00:21:23,219 --> 00:21:26,060 Speaker 9: and the desire and a face. I wanted to have 321 00:21:26,340 --> 00:21:28,899 Speaker 9: a husband only to have children, you know, not that 322 00:21:28,939 --> 00:21:31,059 Speaker 9: I cared so much about a husband, but I wanted 323 00:21:31,300 --> 00:21:33,899 Speaker 9: my child to have a mother and father. But you know, 324 00:21:33,979 --> 00:21:37,659 Speaker 9: if the husband and the sun were drowning, I would 325 00:21:37,659 --> 00:21:38,700 Speaker 9: definitely save the sun. 326 00:21:40,939 --> 00:21:44,699 Speaker 3: You're married, right, Yes, I'm married. I met Yeah, I 327 00:21:44,739 --> 00:21:47,139 Speaker 3: met him. Yeah. Does he know this? 328 00:21:47,979 --> 00:21:52,219 Speaker 9: Uh yeah, uh huh, yeah he knows. I also called 329 00:21:52,260 --> 00:21:54,580 Speaker 9: one time when you had a question, and I said 330 00:21:54,979 --> 00:21:57,100 Speaker 9: that I put up with a husband for the sun. 331 00:21:57,219 --> 00:22:00,060 Speaker 2: Said he, well, all right, Well, that that may be 332 00:22:00,179 --> 00:22:03,979 Speaker 2: a reflection of your particular circumstance, and I, you know, 333 00:22:04,060 --> 00:22:08,059 Speaker 2: I feel that I it's not something perhaps for the 334 00:22:08,060 --> 00:22:11,419 Speaker 2: world to know. And I appreciate your call very much. 335 00:22:11,500 --> 00:22:13,939 Speaker 2: And there are a number of people calling in and say, no, 336 00:22:13,979 --> 00:22:17,020 Speaker 2: women's biggest yearning is for family, not for a man. 337 00:22:18,659 --> 00:22:25,899 Speaker 2: And that's first of all. They have been somewhat indistinguishable. 338 00:22:26,979 --> 00:22:32,300 Speaker 2: But I would be very interested to ask women if 339 00:22:32,340 --> 00:22:37,700 Speaker 2: they could have the love of their life until they die, 340 00:22:38,060 --> 00:22:45,220 Speaker 2: or no love of their life but a child. Which 341 00:22:45,300 --> 00:22:48,899 Speaker 2: would they Which would they they ask God for? That 342 00:22:48,939 --> 00:22:52,580 Speaker 2: would be a very interesting test of the of the question. 343 00:22:52,939 --> 00:22:55,100 Speaker 2: Not a husband to put up with, but the love 344 00:22:55,139 --> 00:23:02,139 Speaker 2: of your life. You know, my dear friends, I am crazy. 345 00:23:02,260 --> 00:23:07,060 Speaker 2: I am crazy about my children. I'm crazy about children. 346 00:23:07,619 --> 00:23:11,740 Speaker 2: I have always wanted more than anything, even more than 347 00:23:12,219 --> 00:23:15,019 Speaker 2: more than outer world achievement. I have wanted to be 348 00:23:15,100 --> 00:23:18,939 Speaker 2: a father. I love it beyond words. 349 00:23:18,580 --> 00:23:20,179 Speaker 3: It has filled. 350 00:23:20,859 --> 00:23:23,779 Speaker 2: Emotional holes in me that I that I wanted filled. 351 00:23:23,820 --> 00:23:26,899 Speaker 2: I I I am. I am crazed by it. But 352 00:23:27,459 --> 00:23:30,460 Speaker 2: so I only say that to preface the following. Children 353 00:23:30,580 --> 00:23:33,979 Speaker 2: have to grow up and leave you. You're a lousy parent. 354 00:23:34,020 --> 00:23:39,739 Speaker 2: If your children can't leave you. It is the bittersweet 355 00:23:39,820 --> 00:23:43,619 Speaker 2: task of a parent to raise children so that they 356 00:23:43,659 --> 00:23:48,340 Speaker 2: can leave. That's but but that's not the case with 357 00:23:48,739 --> 00:23:51,100 Speaker 2: the love of your life. The ideally, the love of 358 00:23:51,100 --> 00:23:54,260 Speaker 2: your life is that doesn't leave you. That that that's 359 00:23:54,300 --> 00:23:59,260 Speaker 2: the ideal. It's it's not common, but that's it's it's 360 00:23:59,459 --> 00:24:03,060 Speaker 2: it's tough to achieve and to find, and but that's 361 00:24:03,100 --> 00:24:07,899 Speaker 2: that's that remains the ideal. So I I don't believe 362 00:24:07,939 --> 00:24:11,020 Speaker 2: that women's greatest yearning is for children. Of course, there 363 00:24:11,100 --> 00:24:14,499 Speaker 2: is that deep, deep yearning and and and thank God 364 00:24:14,540 --> 00:24:17,139 Speaker 2: for it, and I think that's a yearning for many 365 00:24:17,179 --> 00:24:22,899 Speaker 2: men too. But uh, on the deepest level is to 366 00:24:22,939 --> 00:24:26,940 Speaker 2: be loved and love a good man. That's my take anyway. 367 00:24:27,179 --> 00:24:29,699 Speaker 2: And we continue on the Ultimate Issues Hour one to 368 00:24:29,780 --> 00:24:32,859 Speaker 2: eight Praguer seven seven six The Dennis Prager Show. 369 00:24:34,979 --> 00:24:38,299 Speaker 1: This episode of Timeless Wisdom will continue right after this. 370 00:24:43,820 --> 00:24:49,379 Speaker 1: Now back to more of Dennis Prager's Timeless Wisdom. 371 00:24:49,419 --> 00:24:52,500 Speaker 2: Dennis Prager here, and this is the Ultimate Issues hour, 372 00:24:52,939 --> 00:24:55,180 Speaker 2: the hour each week on some great issue. This one 373 00:24:55,260 --> 00:24:57,460 Speaker 2: is what do women most want? What did they most 374 00:24:57,540 --> 00:25:01,419 Speaker 2: yearn for? And I believe that it is to be 375 00:25:01,500 --> 00:25:05,899 Speaker 2: loved and love a good man, and that a real 376 00:25:05,979 --> 00:25:09,100 Speaker 2: bill of goods has been sold to young women for 377 00:25:09,139 --> 00:25:11,700 Speaker 2: the last generation. That no, no, no, no, no no no. 378 00:25:11,739 --> 00:25:16,379 Speaker 2: You want outer world professional success. You have the same 379 00:25:16,500 --> 00:25:18,979 Speaker 2: nature as a male does. The idea that men and 380 00:25:18,979 --> 00:25:24,060 Speaker 2: women have different natures is sex patriarchal drivel. You want 381 00:25:24,100 --> 00:25:28,179 Speaker 2: promiscuity as much as male nature wants promiscuity, and et. 382 00:25:28,100 --> 00:25:29,100 Speaker 3: Cetera, et cetera. 383 00:25:30,500 --> 00:25:36,540 Speaker 2: All right, now, let's go to Carol in Encino, California. 384 00:25:36,619 --> 00:25:38,220 Speaker 3: Hi, Carol, Dennis Praeger. 385 00:25:38,139 --> 00:25:40,979 Speaker 8: Hey there, Yeah, I love your show. I think you're awesome, 386 00:25:41,020 --> 00:25:43,060 Speaker 8: and I just want to say, like the media has 387 00:25:43,100 --> 00:25:47,019 Speaker 8: taught men, Okay, your prize is pamla Anderson. So average 388 00:25:47,020 --> 00:25:49,659 Speaker 8: looking girls out there, if we don't do it for ourselves, 389 00:25:49,939 --> 00:25:51,780 Speaker 8: we're I can't wait around for a guy. 390 00:25:51,939 --> 00:25:52,139 Speaker 4: You know. 391 00:25:52,340 --> 00:25:54,740 Speaker 8: I don't look like Pama Anderson. So I live in LA. 392 00:25:55,020 --> 00:25:57,059 Speaker 8: That's what guys want. They want the Hooters girl. If 393 00:25:57,060 --> 00:25:59,059 Speaker 8: you're normal looking, smart, have a good job, and a 394 00:25:59,100 --> 00:26:03,499 Speaker 8: personality doesn't matter. If you're not arm candy, you forget it. 395 00:26:03,780 --> 00:26:06,059 Speaker 8: I mean that's sound negative, but I've lived here. I 396 00:26:06,100 --> 00:26:08,260 Speaker 8: see what happens. I know my hot friends they get 397 00:26:08,260 --> 00:26:11,459 Speaker 8: asked out constantly. My plain looking friends who own real estate, 398 00:26:11,739 --> 00:26:15,019 Speaker 8: have great jobs, make good money. Really sweet people wouldn't 399 00:26:15,060 --> 00:26:18,299 Speaker 8: hurt a fly kind considering they're single. I don't get it. 400 00:26:19,979 --> 00:26:23,899 Speaker 2: I mean, well, all right, this is a very fair statement, 401 00:26:24,419 --> 00:26:27,939 Speaker 2: but it's not fully accurate. It's very fair. First, there 402 00:26:28,060 --> 00:26:33,460 Speaker 2: is probably a phenomenon in LA that is not quite 403 00:26:33,500 --> 00:26:38,699 Speaker 2: as true in Milwaukee, so that there is some truth 404 00:26:38,739 --> 00:26:43,179 Speaker 2: to that, given that LA has such a large number 405 00:26:43,260 --> 00:26:48,500 Speaker 2: of actresses, models and the like for flock here from 406 00:26:48,540 --> 00:26:53,899 Speaker 2: the Milwaukeees of America, So that's true. Having said that, 407 00:26:54,419 --> 00:26:58,460 Speaker 2: a vast number of as you put it, normal looking 408 00:26:58,580 --> 00:27:02,859 Speaker 2: or average or plainlooking women get married, vast numbers of them, 409 00:27:02,939 --> 00:27:06,939 Speaker 2: since by definition, if that were not the case, the 410 00:27:07,379 --> 00:27:10,019 Speaker 2: vast majority of women would never marry. But the vast 411 00:27:10,060 --> 00:27:14,540 Speaker 2: majority do marry, and the guys who only care about 412 00:27:14,659 --> 00:27:18,820 Speaker 2: Pamela Anderson types are probably are very possibly the type 413 00:27:18,859 --> 00:27:22,019 Speaker 2: of guy you wouldn't want to marry. Anyway, Having said 414 00:27:22,100 --> 00:27:24,739 Speaker 2: all of that, it is not wise. And I'm not 415 00:27:24,780 --> 00:27:26,779 Speaker 2: saying you are doing this, but it is not wise 416 00:27:26,820 --> 00:27:31,859 Speaker 2: for a woman to disregard how she looks because she 417 00:27:31,979 --> 00:27:35,459 Speaker 2: can't be Pamela Anderson Alan that that should be a 418 00:27:35,500 --> 00:27:38,540 Speaker 2: subject for for an hour or two. See, I would 419 00:27:38,619 --> 00:27:42,619 Speaker 2: be very interested in your case where you feel your hot, 420 00:27:42,699 --> 00:27:45,060 Speaker 2: your hot girlfriends, they get asked out and so on. 421 00:27:45,780 --> 00:27:49,459 Speaker 2: I would be as difficult as it is for me 422 00:27:49,500 --> 00:27:51,819 Speaker 2: to say this, I would be interested if if with 423 00:27:52,659 --> 00:27:57,300 Speaker 2: a serious infusion of money, you went to some massive 424 00:27:57,419 --> 00:28:00,659 Speaker 2: makeover place as I think they even had that on 425 00:28:00,739 --> 00:28:03,019 Speaker 2: TV where you know they do all sorts of things 426 00:28:03,060 --> 00:28:06,819 Speaker 2: with hair and with with face and and and you know, 427 00:28:06,979 --> 00:28:10,299 Speaker 2: have the I don't know, trainers and whatever. But if 428 00:28:10,419 --> 00:28:12,660 Speaker 2: if the if the time and effort and money were 429 00:28:12,699 --> 00:28:15,899 Speaker 2: put in Uh, it's it's hard for me to believe 430 00:28:15,899 --> 00:28:19,340 Speaker 2: that you would still be considered by yourself, even as 431 00:28:19,379 --> 00:28:23,100 Speaker 2: as plain looking. There's a lot that a woman could do, 432 00:28:24,020 --> 00:28:28,340 Speaker 2: and a lot of women sell themselves short by saying, well, 433 00:28:28,379 --> 00:28:32,060 Speaker 2: I'm not Pamela Anderson. Pamela Anderson probably walks around thinking 434 00:28:32,139 --> 00:28:35,739 Speaker 2: she's not Pamela Anderson. And if you saw her, you know, 435 00:28:35,820 --> 00:28:38,580 Speaker 2: in the morning, before makeup and before every way that 436 00:28:38,660 --> 00:28:42,900 Speaker 2: she appears to the public, that that would be a 437 00:28:43,459 --> 00:28:45,940 Speaker 2: that would be probably a sobering lesson for you. 438 00:28:46,380 --> 00:28:48,060 Speaker 8: Well, I'm just using her as an example. 439 00:28:48,140 --> 00:28:49,980 Speaker 2: I know, I know that, and I'm using her as 440 00:28:49,979 --> 00:28:52,540 Speaker 2: the same Yeah, I'm using her as the same example. 441 00:28:53,739 --> 00:28:55,500 Speaker 3: And I I. 442 00:28:58,060 --> 00:29:00,579 Speaker 2: All I'm saying to you, and this I'm saying this 443 00:29:00,700 --> 00:29:03,780 Speaker 2: too to Carol, because I'm saying this to all women 444 00:29:03,780 --> 00:29:07,940 Speaker 2: who feel as she does. There are many, many reasons 445 00:29:07,979 --> 00:29:11,340 Speaker 2: why men are attracted to a woman. Obviously, the physical 446 00:29:11,500 --> 00:29:15,300 Speaker 2: is first, because that's the only thing that is known first, 447 00:29:16,300 --> 00:29:19,900 Speaker 2: but over the course of time, and that is one 448 00:29:19,940 --> 00:29:22,820 Speaker 2: of the reasons that I believe that there are good 449 00:29:22,860 --> 00:29:28,019 Speaker 2: ways through the internet now to meet to meet a 450 00:29:28,060 --> 00:29:30,620 Speaker 2: person where you just get to know them as a 451 00:29:30,660 --> 00:29:33,779 Speaker 2: person first and then and then as a as a 452 00:29:33,820 --> 00:29:37,299 Speaker 2: physical being. But I also believe that a lot of 453 00:29:37,340 --> 00:29:40,540 Speaker 2: women do not do do not give the time and 454 00:29:40,700 --> 00:29:45,020 Speaker 2: effort to how they look that they need to. I'm 455 00:29:45,060 --> 00:29:47,779 Speaker 2: sorry to say this because a man doesn't have to 456 00:29:47,820 --> 00:29:49,819 Speaker 2: give the same amount. That's true, but a man has 457 00:29:49,900 --> 00:29:53,099 Speaker 2: to give a lot of time and effort to his 458 00:29:53,260 --> 00:29:59,180 Speaker 2: job because men are judged by their job as much 459 00:29:59,219 --> 00:30:03,060 Speaker 2: as women are judged by their looks. Each sex has 460 00:30:03,100 --> 00:30:11,380 Speaker 2: its own burden. And I say this only out of 461 00:30:11,420 --> 00:30:14,180 Speaker 2: a desire that all the women who want to get married, 462 00:30:14,300 --> 00:30:17,700 Speaker 2: find somebody. It's the only agenda that I have in 463 00:30:17,860 --> 00:30:25,820 Speaker 2: answering Carol. This way, alrighty, let's go to Philadelphia and Carol, Hi, Carol, 464 00:30:25,860 --> 00:30:28,259 Speaker 2: Dennis Prager this Carlos. 465 00:30:28,660 --> 00:30:29,420 Speaker 3: Oh, I'm sorry. 466 00:30:29,459 --> 00:30:33,300 Speaker 2: Your name Carlos, Carlos, it's down here as Carol. I'm 467 00:30:33,340 --> 00:30:35,900 Speaker 2: sorry I changed your sex, but that's Eva's fault and 468 00:30:35,940 --> 00:30:36,700 Speaker 2: she'll be punished. 469 00:30:38,260 --> 00:30:38,779 Speaker 3: Go ahead. 470 00:30:39,260 --> 00:30:41,979 Speaker 5: Then, I just want to say that I think I 471 00:30:42,060 --> 00:30:44,260 Speaker 5: disagree with you. I think your point of view comes 472 00:30:44,260 --> 00:30:48,660 Speaker 5: from a biblical perspective and from my cultural perspectives. I 473 00:30:48,700 --> 00:30:52,739 Speaker 5: think that people ten or twenty dosand years ago, women 474 00:30:52,820 --> 00:30:56,540 Speaker 5: when they were living in caves did not think about culture, 475 00:30:56,620 --> 00:31:00,100 Speaker 5: I mean about men the way they think about him. 476 00:31:00,260 --> 00:31:06,219 Speaker 5: After you know, coaches became civilized. I think this is 477 00:31:06,260 --> 00:31:08,780 Speaker 5: a okay, so all right, I will behavior. 478 00:31:08,380 --> 00:31:12,660 Speaker 2: All right, Carlos, I will modify. I will modify my 479 00:31:12,820 --> 00:31:16,060 Speaker 2: statement to this is women's nature for the last ten 480 00:31:16,140 --> 00:31:21,499 Speaker 2: thousand years, that that for chromagnet women it may have 481 00:31:21,620 --> 00:31:22,140 Speaker 2: been different. 482 00:31:22,860 --> 00:31:28,420 Speaker 8: Okay, have I met Have I have I met you? 483 00:31:28,860 --> 00:31:29,060 Speaker 3: Well? 484 00:31:29,580 --> 00:31:33,260 Speaker 2: You can argue learned, you can argue evolution, you can 485 00:31:33,380 --> 00:31:37,460 Speaker 2: argue divine, you can argue whatever it is that has 486 00:31:37,540 --> 00:31:41,979 Speaker 2: been women's nature through the recorded civilizations that we have. 487 00:31:42,459 --> 00:31:45,860 Speaker 2: That is the way Homer described Greek women. That is 488 00:31:45,900 --> 00:31:49,500 Speaker 2: the way the Bible described whatever women it was describing 489 00:31:49,900 --> 00:31:54,779 Speaker 2: the most ancient texts we have, where people did write 490 00:31:54,820 --> 00:31:58,900 Speaker 2: things in in pre literate society, in caves, it may 491 00:31:58,940 --> 00:32:03,900 Speaker 2: have been different. I can't address that. One eighth Prager 492 00:32:04,020 --> 00:32:07,259 Speaker 2: seven seven six final segment coming up on the Ultimate 493 00:32:07,300 --> 00:32:09,140 Speaker 2: Issues hour of The Dennis Prager Show. 494 00:32:11,020 --> 00:32:14,259 Speaker 1: This episode of Timeless Wisdom will continue what after this 495 00:32:19,860 --> 00:32:25,180 Speaker 1: Now back to more of Dennis Prager's Timeless Wisdom. 496 00:32:25,380 --> 00:32:28,059 Speaker 2: Dennis Prager here, final segment of this edition of the 497 00:32:28,140 --> 00:32:32,180 Speaker 2: Ultimate Issues Hour on The Dennis Prager Show. And a 498 00:32:32,219 --> 00:32:34,660 Speaker 2: reminder for those of you in Philadelphia, I will be 499 00:32:34,780 --> 00:32:38,980 Speaker 2: there this coming weekend scholar and residence at Temple Sinai 500 00:32:39,020 --> 00:32:43,220 Speaker 2: in Dresser, Pennsylvania. Two one five six four three sixty 501 00:32:43,260 --> 00:32:46,700 Speaker 2: five ten. People of every faith are welcome to one 502 00:32:46,820 --> 00:32:49,900 Speaker 2: five six four three sixty five ten. Saturday Night is 503 00:32:49,940 --> 00:32:54,540 Speaker 2: the Happiness Talk and it's meant to be life changing. 504 00:32:54,660 --> 00:32:58,620 Speaker 2: To be perfectly blunt with you, plus some other important 505 00:32:58,660 --> 00:33:02,980 Speaker 2: subjects such as the nature of America and UH and 506 00:33:03,219 --> 00:33:06,739 Speaker 2: uh Judaism as a as a as a vehicle to 507 00:33:07,020 --> 00:33:12,060 Speaker 2: personal fulfillment. Some very real big talks there two one, five, six, four, three, 508 00:33:12,979 --> 00:33:19,020 Speaker 2: sixty five ten. This edition of the Ultimate Issues Hour 509 00:33:19,100 --> 00:33:23,540 Speaker 2: has been devoted to the question raised by the tragic 510 00:33:23,620 --> 00:33:28,020 Speaker 2: story of the astronaut woman been arrested now with charges 511 00:33:28,140 --> 00:33:34,820 Speaker 2: of attempted murder in pursuing a fellow astronaut in competition 512 00:33:34,900 --> 00:33:38,580 Speaker 2: with another woman who I also believe was an astronaut. 513 00:33:38,620 --> 00:33:42,140 Speaker 2: But I don't recall. Astronaut is the highest achievement you 514 00:33:42,180 --> 00:33:46,900 Speaker 2: can achieve attain in America today, beats brain surgeon, beats 515 00:33:46,979 --> 00:33:51,580 Speaker 2: anything but perhaps president of the United States and her 516 00:33:51,620 --> 00:33:58,420 Speaker 2: greatest yearnings, and it was all chucked for her desire 517 00:33:58,580 --> 00:33:59,300 Speaker 2: for a man. 518 00:33:59,340 --> 00:33:59,940 Speaker 3: Apparently. 519 00:34:01,140 --> 00:34:06,380 Speaker 2: Now, I'm not saying her obviously, her conduct is not typical, 520 00:34:06,700 --> 00:34:11,260 Speaker 2: neither of astronauts or of anybody else. I'm only using 521 00:34:11,300 --> 00:34:15,220 Speaker 2: it to say that, you know what, little girls yearn 522 00:34:15,380 --> 00:34:18,819 Speaker 2: for a prince more than they yearn to be astronauts. 523 00:34:19,900 --> 00:34:22,060 Speaker 2: But they have been taught that they really want to 524 00:34:22,100 --> 00:34:26,620 Speaker 2: be astronauts and lawyers and doctors and business people, that 525 00:34:26,620 --> 00:34:29,419 Speaker 2: that's where their satisfaction will really lie. And they are 526 00:34:29,460 --> 00:34:33,140 Speaker 2: being sold a bill of goods and at the age, 527 00:34:33,339 --> 00:34:37,820 Speaker 2: at ages when it's easiest to attract a man, they 528 00:34:37,900 --> 00:34:43,420 Speaker 2: are overwhelmingly preoccupied with professional success. I have no desire 529 00:34:43,500 --> 00:34:46,980 Speaker 2: to deny any female professional success. That is not even 530 00:34:47,100 --> 00:34:52,020 Speaker 2: even a subliminal part of my message. My message is 531 00:34:52,060 --> 00:34:56,660 Speaker 2: to take human nature seriously, something that our universities do not. 532 00:34:57,700 --> 00:35:00,100 Speaker 2: They don't even believe that there is a difference between 533 00:35:00,100 --> 00:35:02,499 Speaker 2: male and female nature to begin with. And this would 534 00:35:02,540 --> 00:35:06,220 Speaker 2: be one of those examples. And so what do women 535 00:35:06,299 --> 00:35:10,779 Speaker 2: want in the first case, A relationship. That's what they 536 00:35:10,819 --> 00:35:14,340 Speaker 2: most yearn for. That is their genius, that is their gift, 537 00:35:15,540 --> 00:35:19,900 Speaker 2: and at his it has been squelched by a generation 538 00:35:20,140 --> 00:35:23,220 Speaker 2: raised to leave that they really want to be astronauts. 539 00:35:23,980 --> 00:35:26,820 Speaker 2: This has been the Ultimate Issues hour on the Dennis 540 00:35:26,819 --> 00:35:27,580 Speaker 2: Prager Show. 541 00:35:27,580 --> 00:35:28,500 Speaker 3: Thank you for listening. 542 00:35:40,900 --> 00:35:45,180 Speaker 1: This has been timeless wisdom with Dennis Prager. Visit Dennispraguer 543 00:35:45,259 --> 00:35:48,779 Speaker 1: dot com for thousands of hours of Dennis's lectures, courses, 544 00:35:48,819 --> 00:35:53,460 Speaker 1: and classic radio programs, and to purchase Dennis Prager's Rational Bibles.