1 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: Life Audio. 2 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 2: You're listening to every Day Prayers with million praying moms 3 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:19,799 Speaker 2: helping you pray God's word for your family in the 4 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 2: areas you need at most. I'm your host, Nicolette Bell. 5 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 2: Here we believe prayer isn't a last resort, It's our 6 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 2: first and best response in parenting, and every day we 7 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 2: come together to partner with God for the hearts of 8 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 2: our children. Today, we are wrapping up our Friday series 9 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 2: with author Christy Thomas talking about her new book, Everyday 10 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 2: Prayers for Gentleness, and today we are specifically talking about 11 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 2: the term gentle parenting and how that fits into or 12 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 2: doesn't fit into a Biblical understanding of gentleness. And I 13 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 2: am very excited to get into this conversation with Christy. 14 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 2: How do we become gentle parents in the biblical lens 15 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 2: and not in the sense of the world. And that's 16 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 2: what we're going to dive into today. Right after a 17 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 2: quick word from our sponsors, Christy, we're so glad to 18 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 2: have you on the show today. Welcome back, Hey, thanks 19 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 2: for having me again. For those that haven't met you yet, 20 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 2: tell us just really quickly who you are and how 21 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 2: old are your kids? Sure? 22 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:24,759 Speaker 3: I am a homeschool mom and an author in Alberta, Canada, 23 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:25,960 Speaker 3: and my boys are. 24 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 2: Seventeen, fourteen and twelve. Right now, those are really fun ages. 25 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 2: Lot's happening at your house. I am sure. I am 26 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 2: sure about it, Okay, Christy. So we have been talking 27 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 2: about what is gentleness, how we misunderstand gentleness, why our 28 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:46,639 Speaker 2: world needs gentleness, and then how we can practically begin 29 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 2: to see and grow in gentleness in our lives. And 30 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 2: so we've kind of talked through those things on the 31 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 2: past three fridays. If you've missed that, you want to 32 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 2: go back and grab those episodes, please do that. And 33 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 2: today we thought it would be interesting to kind of 34 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 2: talk through the concept of gentle parenting. It's kind of controversial. 35 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 2: Some people are all for gentle parenting and some people 36 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 2: are all against. Gentle parenting can be one of those 37 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 2: other maybe another hot take that we have talked about 38 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 2: or something that people feel really strongly about. And so 39 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 2: I wanted to just talk about it because when we're 40 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 2: talking about becoming more gentle in our motherhood and growing 41 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 2: in gentleness, how does that kind of relate to this 42 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 2: concept of gentle parenting. Okay, So. 43 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 3: We're not going to get controversial here because I think 44 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 3: that there are good things about gentle parenting, and I 45 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 3: think it falls flat in some other areas. So hopefully, 46 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 3: whether you love it or you hate it, you're going 47 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 3: to find something to agree with in this conversation and 48 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 3: maybe disagree with. 49 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 2: So gentle parenting. 50 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 3: There are some really beautiful things about gentle parenting, and 51 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 3: I for a long time I would have considered myself 52 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 3: a gentle parent, realizing you know, some of the traps 53 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 3: that sometimes it can lead you into. Because gentle parenting 54 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 3: what it gets right is that children are humans, and 55 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 3: they're loved, and they deserve empathy, and you know, sometimes 56 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 3: they have hard days too, and we should we should 57 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 3: respect that and appreciate that about them and know that. Like, 58 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 3: for example, one of my boys came downstairs one day 59 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:24,639 Speaker 3: and we were fighting all morning, and suddenly he's like, mom, 60 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 3: my teeth have been hurting all. 61 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: Night and all day. 62 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 2: I just have'm in so much pain. 63 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 3: And I was like, oh, my Papa should have been 64 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 3: a little nicer to you today. 65 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 2: I am so sorry. 66 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 3: Because that's what gentle parenting is very good at, is 67 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 3: seeing our kids with empathy and seeing that they are 68 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 3: there image bearers of God, and they are they're broken, 69 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 3: they're hurting flawed people to just like us. And I 70 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 3: think that's one of the things that gentle parenting is 71 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 3: also good at, is recognizing that we, as huge parents 72 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 3: are not perfect either. So we would contrast that with authoritarian, 73 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 3: not authoritative, but like authoritarian parenting, where like I am 74 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 3: always right, and you're gonna do what I'm gonna do, 75 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 3: and the first you know, if it's not first time obedience, 76 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 3: it's not obedience. And I don't think that I see 77 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 3: any of that in the Bible, to be honest, I 78 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 3: don't see that that is the way that God deals 79 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 3: with us. God deals with us in a much more 80 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 3: gentle withholding anger for a very long. 81 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 2: Time kind of way. 82 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 3: He is slow to anger and compassionate and forgiving. And 83 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 3: so when we want to become more christ Like in 84 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 3: our parenting, we do need to have some of these 85 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:42,919 Speaker 3: elements of kind of this traditional gentle parenting. However, where 86 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 3: the gentle parenting philosophy I think falls a little flat 87 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 3: is it tends to lead us into permissiveness. And this 88 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 3: is what when Christian parents say we're not gentle parent 89 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 3: it's usually because we see this permissive aspect of it. 90 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 3: So the secular parenting will it takes us love lovely 91 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:04,359 Speaker 3: idea of gentle parenting and turns it into permissiveness, and 92 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,799 Speaker 3: then we end up seeing these children who are total brats. 93 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 3: And then our Christians as Christians, were bucking against that 94 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 3: and saying, well, gentle parenting is permissive, and we need 95 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 3: to discipline our kids, and so we should avoid it 96 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 3: at all costs. But it's both based on a misrepresentation 97 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 3: of gentleness. And we talked about in all three episodes 98 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 3: that gentleness is strength under control. So as a parent, 99 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 3: I have more strength and power than my children. Even 100 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 3: though my teenage boys are taller than me. Now I 101 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 3: don't have physical strength over them anymore, but I do 102 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:38,600 Speaker 3: still have power over their lives. So when I parent 103 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 3: in the gentleness of Christ, it means I don't use 104 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 3: my power to control them, just like Jesus didn't use 105 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 3: his power to manipulate or control the people around him. 106 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,479 Speaker 3: So I'm going to use self control on myself to 107 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 3: create a place that is safe. 108 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 2: However, what we also need. 109 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 3: Is we do need discipline, because it says in the 110 00:05:58,000 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 3: Bible that God's kind. 111 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 2: You could say he's gentleness. He has a purpose. 112 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 3: It leads us toward repentance. It's not about just being 113 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 3: nice for the sake of being nice. So gentle for 114 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 3: this sake of being gentle and connection. God's the reason 115 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 3: God is gentle. The reason he connects with us is 116 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:19,280 Speaker 3: so that he can draw us toward him, into repentance, 117 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 3: into a new way of living. And so we need that. 118 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:27,599 Speaker 3: And I think as I was reading an article last 119 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 3: night actually, and it was talking about how gentle parenting 120 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 3: is exhausting for parents because you're constantly trying to empathize 121 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 3: with your child. And so, yes, while we need gentleness 122 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 3: and empathy, we also need discipline. 123 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 2: We also need limits and boundaries. 124 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 3: And so when we look at Jesus, he's gentle, but 125 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 3: he also has authority. He's gentle, and that comes from 126 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 3: his strength. It's Jesus was clear that for example him, 127 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 3: let me give you an example. So Jesus was really 128 00:06:56,560 --> 00:07:00,159 Speaker 3: clear that sin is a problem. He was not is 129 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 3: not okay with that. But how did he respond to sinners. 130 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 3: Let's look at like the woman at the well or 131 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 3: this or Zekias. He connected with them in gentleness. He 132 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 3: talked to both of them with kindness and gentleness and wisdom, 133 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 3: and then he pointed them toward life change. He didn't 134 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 3: just empathize with them for the sake of empathizing and connecting. 135 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 3: And I think like, as a parent, I'm actually learning 136 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 3: to go this second step as well, because my natural 137 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 3: instinct is to empathize. 138 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 2: And then just be like, that's okay. 139 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 3: But I'm learning that that is not that's not the 140 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 3: fullness of the gospel. The point of the empathy and 141 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 3: the connection is to draw us into this new life. So, 142 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 3: for example, one of my kids for a while was 143 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 3: lying a lot, like a lot, a lot, and he 144 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 3: was old enough to know that this was lying, Like 145 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 3: there are but in two year old lies that you 146 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 3: don't know that they're lying, right, Like they don't know 147 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,559 Speaker 3: that it's a sin. And that's part of what gentle 148 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 3: parenting has taught us for some things is that, like, 149 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 3: there are certain things that are developmenttally appropriate and some 150 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 3: things that are not. And sometimes a two year old 151 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 3: making up a story is just making up a story. 152 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 3: They're not trying to lie to you, they're just their 153 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 3: brains are just developmentally not able to understand that this 154 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 3: is a lie. 155 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 2: But when they're ten. 156 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 3: They know it's a lie, and they know it's a sin, 157 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 3: and they know that it breaks a relationship. So secular 158 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 3: gentle parenting would probably say, Okay, I. 159 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 2: Understand why you're doing this. You don't. You don't want 160 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 2: to get in trouble. 161 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 3: But our job is also to create a consequence and 162 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 3: point out to kids that Christ is the true source 163 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 3: of heart change. 164 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 2: It's not. 165 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 3: It's not it's not about just trying harder. So this 166 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,439 Speaker 3: is where we can bring the Gospel into our parenting 167 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:54,559 Speaker 3: as well into our gentle gentleness in christ parenting, I 168 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 3: don't know, maybe it needs a new name, because yes, 169 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:00,199 Speaker 3: I do agree that we should be parenting gently. 170 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 2: But to turn it off because it's gotten a bad 171 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 2: rap And yeah, a lot of Christians are like, I 172 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 2: don't I'm not even interested in talking about this, right, 173 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 2: And so yeah, there's some things we need to learn 174 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 2: from it, for sure. So yeah, I love I love 175 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 2: the idea. I give it a new new name, parenting 176 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 2: and gentleness. Maybe that's right parenting and the gentleness of Christ. 177 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 2: It doesn't have that, it's not pissy. I believe it's 178 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 2: a group of flourishing homes and families. 179 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 3: They talk about this a lot where they talk about 180 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 3: like understanding our kids, and so you could probably say 181 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 3: they're doing gentle parenting. 182 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 2: At its best, like the actual parenting in the gentleness 183 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 2: of Christ, where yes, you're recognizing your child's limitations, but 184 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 2: you're also not allowing them to just sit in those and. 185 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 3: Stay in those. You're guiding them forward. And that's I 186 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 3: think what God's gentleness is about is Yep, I see 187 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 3: your limitations, I'm gonna meet you there, and then I'm 188 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:52,079 Speaker 3: gonna pull you towards something else, something better. 189 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 2: Well, and that's exhausting. Right As a mom, I'm like, 190 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 2: that's the That's why I feel like we don't do 191 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 2: that very often, be because it's exhausting. And that's why 192 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 2: I feel like we fall in one of those other 193 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 2: two maybe ways instead of that kind of bridging those 194 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 2: two together, because we can either have empathy and that's it, like, oh, 195 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 2: I'm so sorry you feel that way because you're sick 196 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 2: and that's all you know and that's it, you know, 197 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 2: or whatever it might be. And then you know the 198 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 2: other side of that is just obey me because I 199 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 2: say so, and there's no empathy in that. And the 200 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 2: hard work what takes time and energy and effort and 201 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 2: putting our phone in the other room and truly engaging 202 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 2: with our kids and paying attention and coming back and 203 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 2: having the conversations. And that's hard to do. And it's 204 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:44,679 Speaker 2: hard for me to do that with my four year 205 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:47,319 Speaker 2: old when my baby's crying over here, right, And it's 206 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 2: hard for a mom with a teenager. That's hard to 207 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 2: do when this is going on in the other room 208 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 2: or this is happening in their lives, right. And so 209 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 2: I think that that's probably why we don't do it 210 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 2: very often, is because it's hard and hired. We're tired 211 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:04,439 Speaker 2: as moms, and so we need we need the strength 212 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 2: from the spirit, and that's what sets apart. I feel 213 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 2: like parenting and the gentleness of Christ versus gentle parenting, 214 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 2: we're just trying to do it on our own, and 215 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 2: we're just trying to show this gentleness to our kids 216 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 2: based on our own empathy. No, we are relying on 217 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 2: the Spirit. We're depending on the Spirit to give us 218 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 2: a supernatural dose of gentleness that we don't have on 219 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 2: our own, and we can't show our kids on our own. 220 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 2: And it's that that next level that can only come 221 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:33,959 Speaker 2: from from Christ and from His spirit living out in 222 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 2: our lives. It's that moment that you mentioned last week 223 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 2: of being in the other room or even in the 224 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 2: same room and going, God, I need your help before 225 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:44,319 Speaker 2: the words come out of our mouth. It's that pausing. 226 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 2: We can't do it on our own. We need you 227 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 2: to do it for us and with us and. 228 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 3: In us exactly, and in teaching our kids the same thing, 229 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 3: like right, like you can't you can't do this on 230 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 3: your own. You're gonna you can try harder all you want, 231 00:11:57,679 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 3: We're probably. 232 00:11:58,280 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 2: Still gonna fail. 233 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 3: But God, when you say to God, why need help 234 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 3: with this? Could you please help me, He's not gonna 235 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 3: be like, nah, I really don't want you to grow 236 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:10,559 Speaker 3: in this. You're gonna don't want you to stop lying. 237 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 2: I'm not going to help you with this. Of course, 238 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 2: it's gonna say yes, I know some are good. Bother Yeah. 239 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 3: There's sometimes prayers that he says, you know, he answers 240 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 3: with a no. That's not the kind of prayer. 241 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 2: He answers with the no. Amen to that, Christie, Amen, right? 242 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:25,839 Speaker 2: And you know that's how also we can know when 243 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 2: we talk about praying God's word for our kids. Here 244 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 2: a million praying moms. That's how we can know. Often 245 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 2: talk about like, how do we know if we're praying 246 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 2: God's will, And you know, praying scriptures if we can 247 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 2: do it in the right context, is a great way 248 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 2: to kind of know we're praying God's will. But God's 249 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 2: will is for us to or for our children to 250 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 2: do the things that make us more like Him, right, 251 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 2: so that we can pray for our children if they're 252 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 2: having a problem lying, we can pray for that with confidence. 253 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 2: We can know that His will for them is not 254 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 2: to do that right, or it's not to be angry 255 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 2: or short tempered or whatever it might be. And so 256 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 2: that gives us confidence in our prayers as moms that 257 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 2: we can pray those things. And I love that it's 258 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 2: not something He's just gonna be like, no, you're good, right, 259 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 2: I'll pass on that like that's a prayer that He 260 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 2: loves to answer on our behalf and then on behalf 261 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 2: of our children as well. He sure does. Thank you God, Yes, 262 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 2: thank you that he answers our prayers and response in 263 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 2: that way. Well, Christy, it has been so much fun 264 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 2: to have these discussions with you on Friday and to 265 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 2: really delve a little bit deeper into the gentleness topic. 266 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 2: I'm so grateful that you wrote this resource, and friends, 267 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:40,959 Speaker 2: if you don't have a copy yet, you've got to 268 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 2: get it. It's everyday prayers for gentleness. I think we 269 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 2: can all say this is something that we want to 270 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 2: grow in, we desire to grow in, and we need 271 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 2: some help to do it, and so you've written this 272 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:53,439 Speaker 2: beautiful guide to help us do that. And Christy, you've 273 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 2: told me multiple times this is a million praying mom's book. 274 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 2: But this book is not just written for mothers, And 275 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 2: so tell us just a little bit about that as 276 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 2: we kind of wrap up, because I think this would 277 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 2: be a great even a great resource like for your 278 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 2: college student or a young person that doesn't have kids 279 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 2: yet or those type of things, because it wasn't just 280 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 2: written for moms. Yeah, exactly. 281 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 3: Well, when when we talked about whether it was going 282 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 3: to be targeted at moms or targeted at women in general. 283 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 2: I was like, well, we all need this. I don't 284 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 2: think I can target this just at moms. 285 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 3: So the five Day the free one that I added 286 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 3: some extra parenting content into it because I do believe 287 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:32,359 Speaker 3: that as parents we need to grow in our gentleness. 288 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 3: But this one is really just for any I mean 289 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 3: a man could read it too, if they're going to 290 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 3: pick up a book with flowers and blue flowers on 291 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 3: the cover. But it really is just for anyone who 292 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 3: wants to grow in gentleness. 293 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 2: So you could give it to your mother. Maybe you 294 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 2: want to give it to your mother in law. 295 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 3: You want to give it if you have a college 296 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 3: age friends. There is no I do use some you 297 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 3: know parenting college age daughter, yeah, college age daughter. 298 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. So like you're a mom, so you write from 299 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 2: a perspective all the mom. But it really anybody can 300 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 2: pick it up and learn and grow from gentleness. It's 301 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 2: not specifically four months. Yeah I did have. 302 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 3: There's lots of other examples too of me being ungentle 303 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 3: or yes, needing to practice that in my other parts 304 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 3: of my life, because we are more than just parents, right, 305 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 3: there's other aspects of our lives as well. 306 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 2: Oh that's a good reminder for us today, because sometimes 307 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 2: we can get really caught up and feeling like mom 308 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 2: is the only title we have or the only thing 309 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 2: that we do. So such a good reminder there, Christy, Well, 310 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 2: I would love for you to tell us where we 311 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 2: can connect with you and if you wouldn't mind closing 312 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 2: us out in prayer as we. 313 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 3: Wrap up today, for sure. Well, you can connect with 314 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 3: me if you're on Instagram, you can find me a 315 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 3: Little Shoots Deep Roots or on my website if you 316 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 3: want to grab some of the different the extra free 317 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 3: resources that I've created for the book. It's Little Shoots 318 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 3: Deep Roots dot com. Slash Gentleness should be pretty easy 319 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:01,359 Speaker 3: to find, so there's information. 320 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 2: About the book as well. 321 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 3: As well some of the other stuff too that Million 322 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 3: Pregnant Moms has made as well. So all right, well 323 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 3: let's pray. Well, Jesus, we thank you that you are 324 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 3: the ultimate gentle answer that turns away wrath, that you 325 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 3: started this work in us, and that you will carry 326 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 3: it on to completion until the day of Christ. Jesus, 327 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 3: you've not left us to fuss through this problem on 328 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 3: our own, but you you have both forgiven us, and you, 329 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 3: through your spirit, are continuing to equip us to live 330 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 3: this life as people who want to live in gentleness, 331 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 3: not as not as just a tenderness or a permissiveness, 332 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 3: but in a way that leads leads us into life change, 333 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 3: leads the people around us into life change. And true 334 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 3: life with you. And I pray that as we wrap 335 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 3: up our conversations about gentleness, that it won't be something 336 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 3: that we just go, oh, that was nice and I 337 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 3: forget it, but that we would that this would be 338 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 3: something that would percolate in our spirits for a long time, 339 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 3: and that you would change us visibly to the people 340 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 3: around us in Jesus name. 341 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 2: Amen, Amen, let it be so, Let it be so. 342 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 2: Thank you, Christy and friends. We'll see you back next 343 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 2: week on the podcast. 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