1 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: Life Audio. 2 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:09,320 Speaker 2: Welcome to I Wish you could hear this, where we 3 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 2: explore great stories and simple, proven steps to help you 4 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 2: thrive in life, faith, and relationships. 5 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:20,920 Speaker 3: In our research, we've heard hundreds of Hopefield strategies for marriage, parenting, leadership, 6 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:24,319 Speaker 3: and life that are grounded in science and consistent with 7 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 3: biblical truth, and now you can hear them too. 8 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: I'm Shanti Felteim. 9 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:32,200 Speaker 3: And I'm Jeff Felton. 10 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 2: Young Christian moms know how difficult it can be to 11 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:40,559 Speaker 2: balance everything life, kids, maybe a job, a spouse, and 12 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 2: when on earth is there supposed to be time to 13 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 2: pray or read my Bible. It can be overwhelming and uncertain. 14 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 2: And every Christian mom wants to prioritize their faith and 15 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 2: be a good mother, wife, friend, coworker, but we may 16 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 2: not know how, or at least how to get started, 17 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 2: especially while also being exhausted. There is a way to 18 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 2: both find the purpose and the rest that God has 19 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 2: for us without all the guilt or the pressure or overwhelm. 20 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 2: With our special guest, Brittany An, a woman who has 21 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 2: been there and who has built a huge ministry to 22 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 2: millions of young moms. 23 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 1: That is what we're going to tackle today on I 24 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: wish you could hear this. 25 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 3: Welcome Brittany, and thanks so much for joining us on 26 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 3: this podcast. 27 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 4: Thank you so much for having me. I'm so excited 28 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 4: for this conversation and just get to hang out with 29 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 4: you both today. 30 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 3: That's great. 31 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 1: That's great. 32 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 3: So let me introduce you to our viewers or viewers 33 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 3: and listeners. So you're an author, speaker, podcast host, and 34 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 3: wife and busy mom to four kids. You're also the 35 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 3: founder of Equipping Godly Women, a non denominational ministry that 36 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 3: encourages Christian moms with practical biblical tips and advice. You've 37 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 3: written a couple of books, including fall in Love with 38 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 3: God's Words, and since you started that ministry in twenty fourteen, 39 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 3: it's grown and grown. You reach millions of Christian women, 40 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 3: and you clearly have hit a nerve. 41 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 4: So thank you well, thank you for that. I feel 42 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 4: like all talked up now, like oh wow, because that's 43 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 4: like it's fun to read a bio and to see 44 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 4: like all of the things, but that doesn't always translate 45 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:24,639 Speaker 4: to like day to day on a Tuesday. So it's 46 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 4: like today it's you know, I'm taking care of two 47 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 4: kids who are homesick, and it makes it sound so glamorous, 48 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:32,399 Speaker 4: and you can maybe as you're listening to this kind 49 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 4: of think like, oh, Wow, she's done all these things. 50 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 4: But from my perspective, I'm just like, Oh, I'm just 51 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 4: over here, like taking care of my kids and trying 52 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 4: to be a good wife when I can, and just 53 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 4: trying to balance all of the things. So I'm so 54 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 4: excited that we're going to have this discussion because I 55 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 4: think that is something that so many moms wrestle with. 56 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 2: I think it is absolutely fantastic that you are doing 57 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 2: a podcast as an author and ministry leader while you're 58 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 2: also being a mom taking care of two kids who 59 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 2: are homesick. Earlier before, before we pressed record on this, 60 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 2: I asked Brittany and how old her kids were and 61 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:05,959 Speaker 2: she started to tell me, and she said, I better 62 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 2: get it right because one of them is staring at 63 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 2: me right now, like you better get this right, mom. 64 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 2: And so I love that because that is what we're 65 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 2: going to be talking about today, is balancing life as 66 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 2: a young mom especially, but really this can apply to 67 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 2: any mom, and it certainly is helpful even for those 68 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 2: of us who are beyond the young mom phase and 69 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:30,959 Speaker 2: have maybe some of you listening have kids who are 70 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 2: in that young mom phase. 71 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 3: I didn't say that you were beyond the young. 72 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 2: Youthful mom. 73 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: Oh oh, thank you, thank you so much. 74 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 2: Jeff, absolutely no, but but we have to admit we 75 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 2: are beyond beyond the PA. We are in the empty 76 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 2: nest phase all of a sudden, and it's it's wonderful, 77 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 2: but it's very different. 78 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 3: So, Brittany, and can you tell us why you started 79 00:03:58,680 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 3: this particular ministry. 80 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, so starting all of equipping got the women as 81 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 4: a whole was It wasn't as spiritual as I sometimes 82 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 4: wish that I could be, like, Oh I just had 83 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 4: this heart for women and just ministry because I feel 84 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 4: like that's what so many people says. I just wanted 85 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 4: to do this amazing thing for the Lord, but for 86 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 4: me personally and honestly was like, we had kids, we 87 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 4: were young, we had bills to pay, and so I 88 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 4: was thinking, you know, what can I do in the 89 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 4: season that I'm at And that's something that I talk 90 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 4: about all the time, like what can I do right 91 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 4: now where I'm at? And I just knew, like my 92 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 4: husband and I both decided we didn't want me to 93 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 4: go out and get a job out of the home, 94 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 4: Like I wanted to be home for my kids who 95 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 4: were really little, so I found out that you could 96 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 4: make money writing online. So that's truly how I started. 97 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 4: It wasn't this whole big grand plant. It wasn't like 98 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 4: God spoke to me through the clouds. It was like, hey, 99 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 4: we have babies. We didn't have health insurance, we had 100 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 4: huge hospital bills, and so I'm like, okay, what can 101 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 4: I do. I will sit down and write. So that 102 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,479 Speaker 4: is really how I got my start is every time 103 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 4: that my kids were napping, my bottom was in the 104 00:04:57,720 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 4: chair and I would just sit and I would just type, type, type, 105 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 4: and I just no, like even though I was only 106 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 4: making like five dollars an hour and it was like pitiful, 107 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:07,359 Speaker 4: and I was like writing about dental implants to start 108 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 4: in like car dealerships, and it was not glamorous. But 109 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 4: I'm like, Okay, I just know if I sit down 110 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:16,559 Speaker 4: and if I just keep going, eventually something will happen. 111 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 4: So it wasn't I think sometimes we think that we 112 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 4: have to have this like big clouds opening moment where 113 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 4: oh God is leading us to do this thing, or 114 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,359 Speaker 4: it's going to look so glamorous or it's going and 115 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 4: it really wasn't. It was just like, hey, i've got 116 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 4: bills to pay, I can write out some articles and 117 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 4: so I just started there and it's just it's funny, 118 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 4: but it's beautiful in the sense that what I found 119 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 4: is when you start walking through the first door, then 120 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 4: God opens the next door, that door and God opens 121 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 4: the next door, and you're like, I'd like show me 122 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 4: the whole plan, like what's the whole thing? And God's like, 123 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 4: you don't need to know that, Like none of that 124 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 4: has anything to do with right now. You just need 125 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 4: to know right now. So it really was just this 126 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 4: long process of going from dental implants to realizing, oh, 127 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 4: people actually start their own website, I'll do that. What 128 00:05:58,200 --> 00:05:59,039 Speaker 4: do I want to write about? 129 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: I don't know it up? Faith all right? 130 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 4: Up? Like parenting? 131 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 1: Why not? 132 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 4: So there's you know, so much strategy obviously in those 133 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 4: early days that went into it, but it really was 134 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 4: just taking the next step and taking the next step 135 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 4: and when one opportunity opens, and a lot of things 136 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 4: led to nothing and some things led to something, and 137 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 4: just every day showing up being a mom and when 138 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 4: I had some time and setting that time aside intentionally. 139 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 4: I don't want to act like I was just like 140 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 4: when I had some time, but walking intentionally each day 141 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 4: to say, Okay, God, what's next? What's today? 142 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 1: I love that. 143 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 3: Me too as entrepreneurs. That is the story of our journey. 144 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 3: And I love that you put it so eloquently that 145 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 3: you know what, it's just taking that next step. 146 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: We it's interesting. 147 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 2: We often I was literally just talking to somebody about 148 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 2: this yesterday on another podcast. 149 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: We often don't. 150 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 2: Give enough grace in our lives and the sort of 151 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 2: the space that we need to be able to say, 152 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 2: you know what, there is a reason why God says 153 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 2: his word is a lamp unto our feet and a 154 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 2: light onto our path. And that picture, that word picture 155 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 2: isn't that you're going to see what's far ahead of you. 156 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 2: You're going to see like the next step or two. 157 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: And we need to. 158 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 2: Have the grace with ourselves and candidly is gonna sound funny, 159 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 2: but with God like, rather than getting mad that we 160 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 2: don't know everything, to be able to say, I'll just 161 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 2: take that next step and wait and watch and then 162 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 2: whatever the next door is that opens, take that next 163 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 2: step and wait and watch, and it strikes me that 164 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 2: we're sitting here talking in this podcast about trying to 165 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 2: help a young, maybe exhausted, young mom who needs help 166 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 2: knowing how to balance life. And I wonder if this 167 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 2: idea of this one step at a time thing is. 168 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: Part of that. 169 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 4: Yeah. Absolutely, I think so often we can put so 170 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 4: much pressure on ourselves that we need to do all 171 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 4: of the things, especially if we are scrolling on Instagram 172 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 4: and all the other social media's. I actually took Instagram 173 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 4: off my phone recently because I was like, I just know, 174 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 4: as even as a grown up, like this is not 175 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 4: healthy for me to just be scrolling. I made a 176 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 4: list once of scrolling Instagram, like I'm just curious, what 177 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 4: are all of the things as I scroll that. I'm like, 178 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 4: I feel like I should be good at that. I 179 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 4: feel like I should be good at that. It was 180 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 4: like twenty things where I'm like, oh, I need to 181 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 4: eat my protein, and I need to be a good mom, 182 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 4: and I need to like all of these things. And 183 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 4: so I think when we scroll social media, or we 184 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 4: go to the moms group, or we go to church, 185 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 4: and we see all of these messages from well meeting 186 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 4: people myself included, who are like Oh, here's how to 187 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 4: do this, and here's how to do this. We can think, oh, 188 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 4: everybody has this figured out. Everybody is doing all of 189 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 4: these things, and how in the world can I do 190 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 4: these things? Like looking at my real life. So the 191 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 4: first thing I want to encourage you is that people 192 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 4: are not doing all of the things. I loved how 193 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 4: you talked about earlier, some of that seasonality of you're 194 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 4: in the empty nest years right now, and like, this 195 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 4: really is a topic that doesn't go away. Yes, it's 196 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 4: so applicable for young moms, but it's also applicable for 197 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:03,679 Speaker 4: every stage I went through. Like I don't know if 198 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 4: I consider myself a young mom because I went through 199 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 4: that like sixteen years ago, but now we have our 200 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 4: little caboose surprise baby. So my kids range from like 201 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 4: sixteen to one. So it's like I went through that, 202 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:15,679 Speaker 4: I had my three kids, and then we had another 203 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 4: one and I'm like, okay, and now I'm back here again. 204 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 4: And so I've seen so much, like as I've gone 205 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 4: through this ministry of there have been times where my 206 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 4: kids are older, and they are older and then I 207 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 4: have one who now is little, and it's every time 208 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 4: that we add another kid to the mixer. Every time 209 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 4: it goes from the summer into the fall and now 210 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 4: school season starts or the beginning of the year, like 211 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 4: it changes constantly. So the first thing I want to 212 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 4: say is that nobody's doing everything. Everybody's just doing what 213 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 4: they can in that season. And everybody has a different capacity. 214 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 4: Some people can do a lot and some people can 215 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 4: do less, and that's okay. God is not going to 216 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:52,359 Speaker 4: ask you to do this much work with this much capacity, 217 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 4: Like he will give you what you need or he 218 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 4: will probably okay, here's better, he will give you slightly 219 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 4: less than what you need because you are I'm not 220 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 4: sure if that that's biblical. That is just my experience 221 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 4: because even now, like every day I'm like, God, I 222 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 4: don't like, I don't have this, I don't have all, 223 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 4: like all these things that you want from me, Like 224 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 4: I don't have it, And He's like, but that's cool, 225 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 4: because you don't have to, Like, it's not on us. 226 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:15,679 Speaker 4: It's not on us to be perfect. There's only one 227 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:18,679 Speaker 4: person who's perfect. It's not us. God's not asking us 228 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 4: to do all the things. He's asking us to do 229 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 4: what is right in front of us. 230 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: So that really love that. Thank you. 231 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 2: I love that we put so much pressure on ourselves, 232 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 2: and you're right, it's not just young moms, it's it 233 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 2: doesn't go away. We put that kind of pressure on ourselves, 234 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 2: and you know, at every stage of the game. And 235 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:43,079 Speaker 2: one of the things just to keep going with this 236 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 2: particular conversation we're doing right now, we're doing quite a 237 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:52,959 Speaker 2: bit of talking to and research with young couples and 238 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:58,959 Speaker 2: young families, and you have been and back and are 239 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 2: back in that with a little one, and you also 240 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 2: have a ministry to a lot of those women. One 241 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 2: of the things that I see is probably one of 242 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 2: the things that you see and that you lived, which 243 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 2: is that when you're in that frantic, kind of chaotic 244 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 2: like exhausted phase early on, especially maybe maybe the first kid, 245 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 2: maybe the second kid, you're probably a little bit less 246 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 2: less clueless by the time you're at the fourth kid. 247 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 2: But when you really are in that first phase, you 248 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:40,199 Speaker 2: don't even know where to start, Like you're just exhausted 249 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 2: all the time, your brain isn't working properly. 250 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 1: You don't what do I do to get. 251 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 2: Started to try to have some sort of balance of 252 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 2: life as a young mom. I'm I'm curious just as 253 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:57,559 Speaker 2: a starting point if some if a young woman comes 254 00:11:57,600 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 2: to you, if you're speaking at an event or something, 255 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 2: and she goes. 256 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: How do I even get started? 257 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 2: What's the one or two first steps that you would 258 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 2: suggest that she do to start bringing some peace into 259 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:10,719 Speaker 2: that chaos. 260 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,079 Speaker 4: The first thing that I would do, honestly if it 261 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 4: were me, is just to prayerfully ask some really big questions. 262 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 4: And there's two that come to mind is and they're 263 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 4: very related, hopefully ideally, what is God? What are you 264 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 4: calling me too in the season. That's a big question. 265 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 4: That's not a question unfortunately that you know, any podcast, 266 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 4: any book can say like God specifically is calling you 267 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:39,199 Speaker 4: to this, that's a prayer. Like I do have a 268 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 4: book that you know, can walk you through how to 269 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 4: like get some of those answers from God, And like, yeah, 270 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 4: that is my book follow God's will? 271 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:48,559 Speaker 1: Right, yes, yes, really walks you through. 272 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 4: Okay. I want to know, like how is God calling 273 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 4: me in the season? Like I know what the Bible says. 274 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 4: I know that I'm supposed to read my Bible and 275 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 4: I'm supposed to pray, and I'm supposed to love my 276 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 4: husband and I'm supposed to love my neighbor, but like, 277 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 4: how is God calling me? Specifically? So that really walks 278 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 4: you through, Okay, how do I figure this out? So 279 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 4: that's a prayerful conversation that you're going to want to 280 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 4: have with God, like, God, how are you calling me? 281 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 4: And then the other side of that, which they really 282 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 4: have to work together, is how are you uniquely gifted 283 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 4: or interested or wired? Like what is important to you? 284 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 4: Which hopefully is what is important to God, but you know, 285 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 4: could be your preferences. So this is something that I 286 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 4: had to do myself at one point because I remember 287 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 4: like scrolling on social media and seeing even like my 288 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 4: sister in laws, who are They're wonderful, I love them, 289 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 4: but seeing like oh this one is so crafty and 290 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 4: oh this one is so good at planning parties and 291 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 4: I'm not a crafty mom, Like I don't sit on 292 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 4: the floor with my kids and play Lego as well. 293 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 2: Thank god, Jamie, and you just relieved the pressure off 294 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 2: of so many women out there, including me, going I don't. 295 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 4: I don't color with them very often, although my child 296 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 4: there does now demand I draw like pictures of doggies. 297 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 4: They're terrible, but she loves them, so I do draw 298 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 4: lots of little doggies, but other like I don't sit 299 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 4: in and do all these craps with them constantly. I'm 300 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 4: not a crafty mom. I'm not a party planning mom. 301 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 4: I'm not a like take you out and like go 302 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 4: explore the woods and find frogs kind of mom. And 303 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 4: so I like one day said to my husband, like, 304 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 4: I just like feel like I'm not a good enough 305 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 4: mom because I see them doing these wonderful things and 306 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 4: like I'm not doing them. And what he said to 307 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 4: me was, no, you do do things with your kids, 308 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 4: you just don't post about them on Facebook. And I 309 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 4: was like, Okay, actually you kind of have a point there. 310 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 4: And I had to ask myself this question of like 311 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 4: what is important to me. I don't care about coloring, 312 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 4: I don't care about sports, But what do I care about, 313 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 4: you know, for me personally, and it's gonna look a 314 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 4: little different for everyone. I care about making sure that 315 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 4: my kids know God's word. Do I spend time in 316 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 4: that area? Yes, I absolutely do. We read the Bible 317 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 4: together because that is what is really important to me. 318 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 4: We have so many conversations, like we're constantly having conversations 319 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 4: about the Bible and how it applies to real life. 320 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 4: And we're talking about reading because that's what's important to me. 321 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 4: So I think it just was so helpful for me 322 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 4: to just narrowly define, like this is what I can say. 323 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 4: That's not the kind of mom God is calling me 324 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 4: to be, and that's okay. Like I can cheer on 325 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 4: these other women like my sister in laws and all 326 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 4: my friends. I love them. I cheer that, like I 327 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 4: am so excited for you. I don't have to have 328 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 4: the pressure to be all the things I can say. Okay, 329 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 4: God has called me in this season for me. God 330 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 4: has called me in a season where I'm working and 331 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 4: I'm building a ministry and there are trade offs there. 332 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 4: There are so many things that I don't get to 333 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 4: do that I desperately want to do. I so badly 334 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 4: want to do them. I can't do them. It's not 335 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 4: my season, and I just have to remember, Okay, God 336 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 4: has called me here. I don't have to do all 337 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 4: these other things, even if I really want to, even 338 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 4: if they're good. Maybe I'll do them in a different season, 339 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 4: but right now, like this is where I'm called. This 340 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 4: is where I need to focus. 341 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: Great word, thank grateful word. 342 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you for sharing that one of the things 343 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 2: that really helped me in that season, because I was 344 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 2: juggling young kids and a book that just took off, 345 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 2: and like I was getting speaking engagement requests for like 346 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 2: fifty events a year. Wow, I know, like it was crazy, 347 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 2: and I was exhausted all the time. I had a 348 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 2: four year old and a one year old and was 349 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 2: traveling all over the place to women's events. 350 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 1: I had an. 351 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 2: Amazing to say that, I had an amazing husband who 352 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 2: stepped in and was like doing everything with the kids, 353 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 2: and so I could do that traveling. 354 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 3: But and we also took the approach that look, just 355 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 3: as what you were saying, this is a season, and 356 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 3: we saw the opportunity as you know, this is what 357 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 3: God has putting. 358 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 1: Those were some doors. 359 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 3: Those fifty events a year. I mean she took. 360 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 2: Them well, I did. Until I don't know if you 361 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 2: remember this. This was like a touchstone for me as 362 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 2: a young mom. I was speaking at a big women's 363 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 2: conference and it was one of those where there's like 364 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 2: twenty speakers and you know, everybody's like in the green 365 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 2: room ala once talking about whatever the plans are for 366 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 2: the next two days, and we had a few minutes 367 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 2: before the event started, and I was over in the 368 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 2: corner talking to Liz Curtis Higgs. 369 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 1: Now, I don't know if you know what I mean. 370 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 2: Okay, Liz Curtis Higgs, comedian, She's just she's been wonderful 371 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 2: and she sees the dark bags under my eyes and 372 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 2: she's like, how are you doing? 373 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 1: And I'm like, I'm okay. 374 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 2: She's like, yeah, let's ask that question again. 375 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:19,160 Speaker 1: How are you doing? 376 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 2: And I start crying and I'm like crying off my 377 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 2: mascara and I'm about to go on stage. 378 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: I'm like what, And she said, what's going on? 379 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 2: And I explained, right like, even though I have this 380 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 2: wonderful husband, I'm away from the kids too much, you know, 381 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:36,719 Speaker 2: but just trying to seize these opportunities. 382 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: You know whatever. 383 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 2: And she challenged me. She's like, and she said, as 384 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:44,120 Speaker 2: you have probably heard and many women have heard from 385 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:49,400 Speaker 2: maybe a slightly more experienced mom, she said the same 386 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:51,919 Speaker 2: thing to me, which is you will never get this 387 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 2: time back with your kids, right this is a season. 388 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 1: And I'm going to. 389 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 2: Challenge you to pray about something. And I said okay, 390 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 2: And she said, I want you to pray about cutting 391 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 2: back from fifty events to twenty five. Twenty five is 392 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 2: still a lot. You're still gonna be on the road 393 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 2: a lot, but you can bring the kids with you. 394 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 2: You guys can do stuff together. But pray about whether 395 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 2: you're really supposed to be taking on all this responsibility 396 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 2: at this point in your life. And she said there 397 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 2: will be other seasons. 398 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 1: In your life. 399 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 2: And that to me was like a turning point because 400 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 2: I recognized I really was feeling like I'm going to 401 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 2: miss something if I don't. You know, I've got to 402 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 2: sort of seize the day. And it's like, yeah, Okay, 403 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 2: God has provided these amazing opportunities, but God doesn't want 404 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:48,439 Speaker 2: your family to suffer or you to suffer as a 405 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 2: result of those things. So I love the question that 406 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:54,400 Speaker 2: you said you have to wrestle with at the very 407 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 2: sort of as a first step, which is what is 408 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:59,959 Speaker 2: God calling you two in this season? 409 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 1: And to be willing to be really honest. 410 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 4: Yeah. I heard some really similar advice from a friend 411 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 4: of mine. I don't know if you would know her, 412 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:09,400 Speaker 4: Katie Orr is a online Bible. 413 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:12,439 Speaker 1: Teacher as well, but he stuff, thank you. 414 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 4: She gave me really fantastic advice that was God calls 415 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 4: all of us. But there's our primary calling and our 416 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 4: secondary calling. And our primary calling is what is very 417 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 4: explicit in scripture. You know, you should love your neighbor, 418 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 4: you know, love God, all of that, and then you 419 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 4: have your secondary calling that you may include like the 420 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:32,479 Speaker 4: missions and other things God has called you to do. 421 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:34,479 Speaker 4: And so often you want to do all of these 422 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 4: secondary things, but if it is getting in the way 423 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 4: of your primary calling, you don't do it. And that's 424 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 4: what I'm thinking right now in terms of there's so 425 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:42,639 Speaker 4: many things I want to do. I want to go 426 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 4: on mission strips, and I want to volunteer like and 427 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 4: all of these good things that are that are that 428 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 4: are good that God calls us to do, but I 429 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 4: know that I cannot do them without jeopardizing my first calling. 430 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 4: Like if I am not showing up for my family, 431 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,199 Speaker 4: if I am grouchy all the time, if I am 432 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 4: not getting enough sleep that I am running myself down, then 433 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:04,159 Speaker 4: even if I'm doing good things like I shouldn't be 434 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 4: doing them because I can only do so much. I'm 435 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:08,880 Speaker 4: a human. I have limited capacity, and God knows that, 436 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 4: and he would never call us to do thirty two 437 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 4: hours of things in our twenty four hour day that 438 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:15,159 Speaker 4: he's given us as much as I want to, Like, 439 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:16,880 Speaker 4: that's like my dream. I'm like, you just want thirty 440 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 4: two hours. I just want to do all the things 441 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:20,159 Speaker 4: Like a puppy. I'm like, I just want to do 442 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 4: all the things. He's like, no, you have twenty four 443 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 4: hours is all you get to do. But I want 444 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 4: to do more things. 445 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 2: So you know, it's interesting. There's so many reasons for that. 446 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 2: One of them when I do when I speak at 447 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 2: women's retreats, one of the things that we unpack a 448 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 2: little bit of is what's underneath the But I want 449 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 2: to do all the things right, Like I don't want 450 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 2: to not do this. There's this wonderful stuff over here, 451 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 2: and it goes all the way back to the garden. 452 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 2: I mean, we see Eve having this incredible like God 453 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:59,919 Speaker 2: says you can have any fruit of any of these trees, 454 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 2: just not this one, just one, just this one thing. 455 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 2: And the enemy comes and goes you're missing something. He's 456 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 2: keeping something from you, Like there's this beautiful thing that 457 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 2: you're not not allowed to do right now. And we 458 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 2: all have a little bit of that in our sinful 459 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,479 Speaker 2: nature of But I don't want to miss something. I 460 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 2: want to seize all those opportunities, and instead we do 461 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 2: have to tell ourselves. I think, I think, and it's 462 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 2: important for me even now, even as an empty nester, 463 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 2: that if we accept the limits that God puts on 464 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 2: us in each individual season, it's just like again back 465 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 2: in the garden, we wouldn't lose something, we'd find something. 466 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,679 Speaker 2: We have all this wonderfulness. That's what we need to 467 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 2: embrace in the whatever the season that we're in. So anyway, 468 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 2: that's what occurs to me as you're sharing that. 469 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 4: That's so good. I think sometimes we're just greedy and 470 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 4: we want everything, and God's like that, like I'm thinking, 471 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 4: like you know, I have young children who like to eat. 472 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 4: It was Easter recently, so they were like, how much 473 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 4: Easter candy can we eat? I'm like, I want you 474 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 4: to enjoy Easter candy, but like, don't eat all of it. 475 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 4: You will get a belly ache, Like be reasonable. And 476 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 4: I think that concept really applies here because I'm like, 477 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:17,479 Speaker 4: I just want all of the Eastern candy, like all 478 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:19,160 Speaker 4: of the experiences. I want to do all of these things. 479 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 4: And God's like, you will give yourself a belly ache 480 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 4: if like you can have some but like be reasonable, 481 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 4: but I think sometimes we're greedy or honestly, this is 482 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 4: going to hit hard. We can be idolatrous to think, oh, 483 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 4: I can do everything, like I have all of the capacity, 484 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 4: I can do everything, and I can do it perfectly, Like, no, 485 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 4: you can't. You're human. And like that's where the gospel 486 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 4: comes in. You don't have to be perfect, you don't 487 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:43,919 Speaker 4: have to do all the things. It doesn't rest on you. 488 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 4: God has only asked you to carry your part and 489 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 4: trust that He's got all the rest. It's not up 490 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 4: to you. He doesn't need you to do all of it, 491 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 4: even though I really, really speaking to myself, really really 492 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 4: want to. 493 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 1: That is so yes, that is so true. 494 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 2: You're you're you're channeling all the things that we as 495 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 2: women are often juggling with. And I will just tell 496 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 2: for any anyone who's listening to this who is in 497 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 2: that young, exhaustive mom phase right like anyone who is 498 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 2: in that chaotic phase, I promise, like I'm gonna say 499 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 2: this and know that this is true. I promise you 500 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:26,959 Speaker 2: that you will have opportunities again when the kids are 501 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 2: older and you have a different season that you're navigating. 502 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:35,880 Speaker 2: And suddenly the kids start driving, and wow, like your 503 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 2: life just changes dramatically when empty nest comes, it's a 504 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 2: completely different season. Your life changes dramatically. And just as 505 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 2: an encouragement, I know that this may sound like it's 506 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 2: forever way to a young mom, But one of the things, 507 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 2: as an example that's occurring to me is that I 508 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 2: felt when I had that conversation with Liz Curtis Eggs. 509 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 2: One of the things that I felt pretty clearly from 510 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 2: the Lord was that I had to turn down We 511 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:06,880 Speaker 2: had been getting. 512 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 1: International speaking invitations. 513 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 2: And we did a few where we could bring the kids, 514 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:18,679 Speaker 2: but mostly that we had to turn them down because 515 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 2: going international that's way longer than just flying a few 516 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 2: states over right, and that that would take too much 517 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,479 Speaker 2: time away from the kids and other things that we 518 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,159 Speaker 2: were called to do. And I was like, but I 519 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 2: want to be able to do this, like these are 520 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 2: like my equivalent of mission trips, Like I want to 521 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 2: be able to do this, and it was like this, chill, right, 522 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 2: that's not the season that you're in. And it's interesting. 523 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 2: Suddenly we become empty nesters and didn't even try to 524 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 2: set this up. Could never have set this up. We're 525 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 2: speaking at an event immediately after becoming empty nesters. We're 526 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 2: speaking at an event in Hawaii, of all places, suffering 527 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 2: for Jesus. And the person at the table book table 528 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 2: next to ours that Jeff started talking to was one 529 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 2: of the key leaders of Compassion International and asked, if 530 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 2: you know, we wanted to become Compassion International speakers and 531 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:20,160 Speaker 2: suddenly now we have these opportunities to go on Compassion 532 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 2: trips and to have this kind of hopefully this more 533 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 2: international impact as well. And couldn't have arranged that. That 534 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 2: was something that God just set up. And so that's 535 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 2: an encouragement to the young moms, which is some of 536 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,120 Speaker 2: this is just trusting God. 537 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's so encouraging to me, so to be 538 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 4: very vulnerable. I really struggled the couple of years, last 539 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,479 Speaker 4: couple of years, which is this idea of getting older 540 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 4: because I saw so much online this narrative of oh, 541 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 4: once you get older and everything falls apart, and I'm like, okay, 542 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 4: I know, like I've been told like there will be time, 543 00:25:57,840 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 4: and even my husband like that's what he would tell me. 544 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,160 Speaker 4: He's like, there will be time when our kids aren't little, 545 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 4: and I'm like, I don't want to invent anybody else, 546 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,639 Speaker 4: but I'll be old then, Like I don't know what 547 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 4: it's like to be fifty and sixty, Like I haven't 548 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 4: gotten there. This is me in my thirties. I'm like, 549 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 4: but I like that seems so far off, And like 550 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 4: everything I read online is like all of these people 551 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 4: they hit forty and then they completely fall apart and 552 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:19,199 Speaker 4: it feels so dramatic and like you have to do 553 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 4: all of these things. And I'm like, but am I 554 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,439 Speaker 4: gonna have the time? Am I going to have the energy? 555 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 4: And then I did recently turn forty, and then I 556 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,679 Speaker 4: was like, oh, I still feel young, probably because I 557 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,640 Speaker 4: have a tuther, but I'm like, oh, like my life, 558 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 4: that sounds way too dramatic. My life isn't over. But 559 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 4: I'm like, I still have lots of energy. I still 560 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,879 Speaker 4: have lots of time. But when you're twenties and in 561 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 4: your thirties you don't know that yet. Like I don't 562 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 4: know what it's like to be older. So that's why 563 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 4: I love having this conversation, not calling you older, but 564 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:47,639 Speaker 4: just somebody here. 565 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 2: It's okay, we've had to make peace with that too, 566 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 2: But can I just tell everybody else, including you. One 567 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 2: of the things that we found in our research, everybody 568 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 2: feels thirty inside. 569 00:26:58,280 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: Like it doesn't matter. 570 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 2: You can be talking to an eighty years old and 571 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 2: they're like, yeah, I'm still thirty inside, like or twenty 572 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:04,919 Speaker 2: five like somewhere. 573 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 1: The way we see ourselves, the way we. 574 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 2: See ourselves is we never get to the point. Most 575 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 2: people don't get to the point where they see themselves 576 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 2: as oh wow, I'm eighty and I feel eighty. 577 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 1: Uh fascinating, so you know, yeah. 578 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 3: Of course the chiropractor tells me that I'm not thirty inside, 579 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 3: but nevertheless, I'm a slow learner. 580 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:27,439 Speaker 4: So that's fascine. 581 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 3: That's why I go to the chiropractor. 582 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 4: I love it. I actually sent out an email because 583 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 4: I have an email list, so I sent out an 584 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:34,679 Speaker 4: email and I was like, Okay, I know some of 585 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 4: you are older, and I need you to encourage me, 586 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,919 Speaker 4: like if you are in your sixties, seventies, eighties, like 587 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 4: what are you doing, Like tell me about these awesome 588 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,399 Speaker 4: things that you're doing and how like what do you 589 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,920 Speaker 4: want to be doing? And some of them replied back 590 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 4: and they were like, I'm so happy because I'm just 591 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 4: hanging out with my green kids. And I'm like, awesome, 592 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 4: Like this is the life you wanted and you have 593 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 4: it and you're happy. But others were like, you know what, 594 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 4: I'm riding motorcycles and going on Mission Strip and I'm 595 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 4: like people are doing that, like it's still possible. So 596 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 4: I just love having these conversations to be like, Okay, 597 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 4: some people might be whining about getting older, but other 598 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,440 Speaker 4: people they really are still living life. 599 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 1: And I don't know. 600 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,359 Speaker 4: It was probably dumb, but it was a revelation to 601 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 4: me to be like, it's not all over, even though 602 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,479 Speaker 4: I can't see that far ahead. I don't know what 603 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 4: that's like, but just to hear like there's more, it's coming. 604 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:21,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, different seasons. 605 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:27,639 Speaker 2: As we've said, Okay, let's dive back into just briefly. 606 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,880 Speaker 2: I want to give some practical help to these young 607 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 2: moms that are listening, or to the parents of the 608 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 2: young mom who can pass it along. 609 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 1: Because one of the very very practical. 610 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:43,719 Speaker 2: Things that is often an issue when you're in that 611 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 2: phase are mournings. Mornings are just insane, like they're the 612 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 2: craziest part of a day, getting the kids around for school, 613 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 2: like all the things preschool, school, whatever. Do you have 614 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 2: any like super practical advice that you could share to 615 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 2: help a young mom who's just trying to get through 616 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 2: the morning without losing her mind. 617 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 4: Yeah. I think what I'm going to say is not 618 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 4: to try to follow somebody else's morning plan, but to 619 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 4: figure out for yourself what specifically is causing you trouble 620 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 4: and how you can fix it, because I think so 621 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 4: often we get online and we see like, oh, here's 622 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 4: this morning plan or here's what these people do, and 623 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 4: we're like, oh, well, I'll just follow their plan. But 624 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 4: all of us are so unique in terms of what 625 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 4: ages our kids are, and if we're morning people or 626 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 4: night people, and where we are going. So what I 627 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 4: would encourage women to do is just to be really 628 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 4: intentional think through, like right now, go or like after 629 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 4: you listen to this podcast, like get out a piece 630 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 4: of paper and say, okay, what do I do in 631 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 4: the morning. Maybe take a couple days where you're like 632 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 4: writing it down, Okay, I do this, and I do, 633 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 4: like make a list of all the things that you're doing, 634 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 4: how long they take, and then say, okay, which of 635 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 4: these things are stressful and which of these things are 636 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 4: not stressful? And if you just start like identifying the 637 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 4: pieces that are stressful and making a strategy for those. 638 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 4: So if you're like, oh, we have stress because my 639 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 4: kids won't get dressed, Okay, then move that to the 640 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 4: night before. Or we have stressed because of lunches, okay, 641 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 4: move that to night before, or we have stress because 642 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 4: we're always running late. Okay, Well, then that is the 643 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 4: night before. There's all the night before, it's coming up 644 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 4: a lot, but the night before you need to go 645 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 4: to bed earlier. You need to do them. And if 646 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 4: there's things that don't stress you out, okay, awesome. But 647 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 4: if there's things where you're like, do I really need 648 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 4: to be doing this in the morning or is there 649 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 4: a better way to do it instead of just saying oh, 650 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:26,959 Speaker 4: I just like mornings are just stressful and it just 651 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 4: is what it is. Okay, Like what specifically is stressful? 652 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 4: How can you tackle that piece? 653 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 1: That's so good? Yeah, you're very problem solving easy. 654 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 3: So I recognize your your ministry, Brittany in is to 655 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 3: young moms or to moms in general. We've got listeners 656 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 3: here who are dads. Yeah, so I think about dads 657 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 3: in crazy mornings, and you know, in our case, and 658 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 3: I think with a lot of guys that I talk with. 659 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 3: Men and women tend to process that craziness kind of differently. 660 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 3: So in our case, you know, I can be very 661 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 3: task driven, and the task is to get the kids 662 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 3: fed and get them out the door to school tom 663 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 3: and and you know, whether they're closed match isn't necessarily 664 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 3: something that's part of my list of things that are 665 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 3: important to make sure are done perfectly. So also in 666 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 3: accomplishing that task, I oftentimes do it differently than Shaunty, 667 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 3: and I can be sometimes at the risk of hurting 668 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 3: feelings in order to get things. 669 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 2: Well know, you're not like the military stuff, if the 670 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 2: kids aren't, if the kids aren't falling into line after 671 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 2: two or three times, yeah, exactly. 672 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 3: So the difference I think between me and Shaunty, and 673 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 3: I think we've found that between men and women, is 674 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 3: as those kids get out the door, I'm then now 675 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 3: in my work mode and so I'm off to my 676 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 3: job and I'm not thinking about I knew I'm probably 677 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 3: hurt their feelings, but you know, we'll deal with that later, okay. 678 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 3: Whereas Shanty, on the other hand, is acutely aware of 679 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 3: the hurt feelings and wondering throughout her day how she's 680 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 3: going to how the kids are doing at school, whereas 681 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 3: that thought really just doesn't come up in my mind. 682 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 3: So the question is, how does a young mom in 683 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 3: this kind of craziness where you and your husband may 684 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 3: have very different parenting styles in this how do you 685 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 3: prevent yourself from telling yourself a narrative about your husband 686 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 3: that he's just not sensitive or he's you know, unkind 687 00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 3: or permitting or allowing resentment toward him to build up. 688 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 3: How does a young mom in this crazy phase manage that? 689 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, I have so many things I could say on 690 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 4: this topic, because yes, this resonates in our marriage too. 691 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 4: We have had seasons. My husband and I both work 692 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 4: from home, but we have had seasons most of the time. Honestly, 693 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 4: he and I don't come down at the same time 694 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 4: because he knows like, I've got a perfectly well oiled 695 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 4: machine and he wants to help. But if he comes 696 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 4: down when I like it is time to we are 697 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 4: moving and we're like getting out the door. So he 698 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 4: has kind of figured out like if he comes in 699 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 4: gets involved, it's going to make it worse. So he 700 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 4: just kind of like, lets me do my thing. So 701 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 4: that's one strategy is he's just like eh, and that 702 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 4: works really well for us. I don't know that I 703 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 4: would recommend it for everyone because some wives might be 704 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 4: like no, like get down here and help, But for us, 705 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 4: I'm like, no, I got this, just like. 706 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 3: Lets you talked it through to find out or you 707 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 3: kind of learn. 708 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 1: That about each other. 709 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, we learned that about each other. He's kind of 710 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 4: like did that and then told me after the fact, Oh, hey. 711 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 1: Like this is what I'm doing. 712 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 4: And I'm like, I'm not gonna argue with you, like 713 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 4: we got it. Like I'm just very independent. I'm like 714 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 4: I don't need help, Like we're fine, like just live 715 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 4: your life. But like then he helps. He helps so 716 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 4: much another way, So I don't want to be like, 717 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 4: oh he's a hands off because he's not at all. 718 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 4: Just like in that short window of time, he's like 719 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 4: you've got this, You've got your system. So that's one strategy. 720 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,360 Speaker 4: Wouldn't recommend it for everyone, works really well for us. 721 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 4: Another thing is to say hey, to have a conversation, 722 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 4: to say hey, this is really important to me, and 723 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 4: this is why there's so many things throughout our marriage. 724 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 4: There so many times we've disagreed on things or he's 725 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 4: done something and I'm like in my head internally, I'm like, 726 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 4: why would you do that? That was dumb, Like I 727 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 4: wouldn't do it that way, like obviously your way is wrong. 728 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 4: And we even out loud to each other, we'll have 729 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,360 Speaker 4: these conversations as politely as we can and we're like, 730 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:44,920 Speaker 4: I know, I think you're wrong, like why. 731 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:45,399 Speaker 1: Would you do that? 732 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 4: But if I am wise enough to keep my mouth 733 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 4: shut and I don't say that out loud, and I 734 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 4: try to like I'm sure he has a reason. There 735 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:55,360 Speaker 4: have been so many times, or he's come back to 736 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 4: me later and just like mentioned in passing like, oh yeah, 737 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,279 Speaker 4: I did this thing, and here's the reason. And when 738 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 4: he tells me the reason, I'm like, oh, like actually 739 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,880 Speaker 4: makes a lot of sense. It's actually better than my 740 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:08,800 Speaker 4: way of doing something. So that's my second piece of 741 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 4: advice is you know, sometimes you just do it and 742 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:12,759 Speaker 4: get through it. But then sometimes maybe you have the 743 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 4: conversation and you're like, hey, like I've noticed that I'm 744 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,800 Speaker 4: kind of this way and you're kind of this way. 745 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 4: What do you think that could be? And try to 746 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:23,359 Speaker 4: keep it a friendly, inquisitive conversation and you might find 747 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,759 Speaker 4: out that there's things that he is doing that are 748 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:27,880 Speaker 4: actually better than the way you're doing, and there may 749 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 4: be things that you're doing on purpose for a reason 750 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,759 Speaker 4: that he just doesn't have that information, and it really 751 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:34,799 Speaker 4: your way really is better and he just doesn't know 752 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,279 Speaker 4: the context or his ways better, and so having some 753 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 4: more of that context rather than just immediately assuming well, 754 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,359 Speaker 4: you're just dumb and you're strong, Like, there's probably a 755 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,759 Speaker 4: reason if you married a decent person, like they love you, 756 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 4: they love your kids, they're not out to harm you, 757 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 4: they're not just hopefully just not being lazy and uncaring, 758 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,439 Speaker 4: there's probably a reason you have. Like every person, even 759 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,239 Speaker 4: if we say, oh, of course God's number one and 760 00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 4: our family's number two, we all have different values. Some 761 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 4: people really value being quick and efficient, some people really 762 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 4: value community and feelings. And I honestly I love that 763 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,400 Speaker 4: about our marriage, that we have very different views on things. 764 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:14,239 Speaker 4: But it's such a benefit because rather than doing things 765 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,520 Speaker 4: his way versus my way, I'm like, great, now we 766 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:18,120 Speaker 4: get the best of both worlds. Like we'll bring my 767 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,399 Speaker 4: perspective and your perspective and we figure out the third 768 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 4: way that works for both of us. So obviously, like 769 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 4: if you can talk through it. It's great. But even 770 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 4: in the in between, before you get to that talk, 771 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 4: just giving them the benefit of the doubt and saying, 772 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,319 Speaker 4: you know what, my spouse is a loving person. He 773 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 4: loves me, he loves our kids. He is not actively 774 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 4: trying to harm us. Maybe there's information he doesn't know, 775 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,439 Speaker 4: maybe there's information I don't know. So we're just gonna 776 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,239 Speaker 4: give them the benefit of the doubt. Later we will discuss. 777 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,959 Speaker 4: We might agree, we might not agree, but either way, 778 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 4: sometimes things really matter, and some things you're like, you know, 779 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 4: it doesn't matter. It is gonna be fine. These kids 780 00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 4: like need some adversity to grow big and strong. They're 781 00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:56,720 Speaker 4: gonna be fine. 782 00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 1: They're gonna be fine. I love that. 783 00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:03,280 Speaker 2: That's a great, great way to avoid that narrative, avoid 784 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 2: that resentment. Okay, as we get to the end of 785 00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 2: our time, I want to at least spend a few 786 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:14,279 Speaker 2: minutes digging into something that you spend a lot of 787 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 2: time on with young moms and with your kids, which 788 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 2: is about studying the Bible and having the time to 789 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:26,640 Speaker 2: dig into God's word. This We could spend a whole 790 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,360 Speaker 2: podcast on this, but since we're near the end of 791 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,320 Speaker 2: our time, One of the things that I think would 792 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:37,439 Speaker 2: help some young moms is a why do you think 793 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,600 Speaker 2: that that is so important? When they're like, look, I 794 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:41,760 Speaker 2: know the Bible is important, but I'd rather have a nap, thinks, 795 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:46,359 Speaker 2: And then b how do they actually do that when 796 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:50,719 Speaker 2: they're in that chaotic phase. One of my close friends, 797 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 2: this was a number of years ago, she had five kids, 798 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:55,120 Speaker 2: always chaos. 799 00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 1: She always she. 800 00:37:56,680 --> 00:38:00,719 Speaker 2: Was like, I just am not finding time for my 801 00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,439 Speaker 2: quiet time with the Lord. And she finally went, wait, 802 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:05,920 Speaker 2: who says it has to be quiet? So she had 803 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,880 Speaker 2: loud time with the Lord with the Bible on her 804 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:14,239 Speaker 2: lap while the kids are running around. What's your advice, 805 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:18,440 Speaker 2: your practical tips, as you have spent all this time 806 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 2: with millions of young moms to help them understand the 807 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:26,320 Speaker 2: importance and understand how to do that in this phase. 808 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I love that you mentioned loud time with the Lord. 809 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:32,279 Speaker 4: That's amazing and that's really where I want to start. 810 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,360 Speaker 4: Because nowhere in the Bible does it command you to 811 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,399 Speaker 4: read the Bible every single day. It is not in there. 812 00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,200 Speaker 4: I double check to be sure it's not in there, 813 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,600 Speaker 4: like obviously it couldn't have been, because the Bible wasn't 814 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:46,719 Speaker 4: the Bible before it was exactly but like literally, it 815 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 4: does not say I made sure. Nowhere does it say 816 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,719 Speaker 4: you have to read the Bible every day. Now. What 817 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 4: it does say is and I don't remember the first 818 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:56,080 Speaker 4: off the top of my head, which I should, but 819 00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,320 Speaker 4: it does say to like meditate on God's word. 820 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,359 Speaker 1: Constantly, constantly yep. 821 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,359 Speaker 4: So however, the actual verse says it talks a lot 822 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:07,080 Speaker 4: about being in God's word, letting, whether it's reading your 823 00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:11,080 Speaker 4: Bible or just like getting scripture inside of you whatever 824 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,560 Speaker 4: that looks like. So that's the first place I want 825 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,319 Speaker 4: to start. If you are in a season where you're 826 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 4: like I have kids with special needs, I have a newborn. 827 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,319 Speaker 4: Work in is crazy mode right now, and I just 828 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:23,600 Speaker 4: cannot give yourself some grace because God's not asking you 829 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,279 Speaker 4: to be the perfect Bible study teacher and leader. Like 830 00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,920 Speaker 4: that's not your season and that's okay. There will be 831 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:30,960 Speaker 4: a season where that's your season now, is not it? 832 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:34,319 Speaker 4: And that's okay. I don't read my Bible every single day. 833 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,040 Speaker 4: My goal is five days a week and then I 834 00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:37,479 Speaker 4: have church and then i have the other day because 835 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:39,319 Speaker 4: I'm a mom and I'm gonna fall asleep before it 836 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,839 Speaker 4: happens somedays, so we've given ourselves grace. So first start 837 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:44,640 Speaker 4: there is you don't have to sit down and read 838 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:46,160 Speaker 4: your Bible. You can have a lot of time. You 839 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,040 Speaker 4: can have listened to praise and worship time. You can 840 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:51,000 Speaker 4: have pray while you are reading time, pray while you're 841 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:54,319 Speaker 4: going up about your daytime. But the most important thing 842 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,160 Speaker 4: is just to get God's word inside of you, to 843 00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,399 Speaker 4: know the verses, to know what it says. That's something 844 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,480 Speaker 4: that I have really been clinging to so much lately 845 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:05,279 Speaker 4: in the season I'm in right now where I'm trying 846 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:06,879 Speaker 4: to build this ministry and I'm trying to take care 847 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,640 Speaker 4: of all of these kids and all of the things 848 00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:11,319 Speaker 4: that I'm trying to do all at the same time. 849 00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,480 Speaker 4: Like I don't have time to sit and look up 850 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:15,200 Speaker 4: the verse and like go look and think. But I've 851 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,960 Speaker 4: read it. I've read it before. It's in here. I 852 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,319 Speaker 4: know it. So when I am going through something and 853 00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,400 Speaker 4: I do read the Bible, and that'll come up. But 854 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,560 Speaker 4: as I'm going through my day, I remember a verse 855 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:27,400 Speaker 4: or I have a conversation like this, I'm listening to 856 00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,160 Speaker 4: a podcast. They're listening to a podcast right now. I'm 857 00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:33,000 Speaker 4: listening to praise and worship music, whatever that is, and 858 00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:37,319 Speaker 4: these verses come up and I remember the stories. I 859 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:40,480 Speaker 4: remember Job who went through a really hard season. I 860 00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:42,919 Speaker 4: remember the story of the Loaves and the Fish where 861 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,440 Speaker 4: the disciples were like, we can't feed these people and 862 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,200 Speaker 4: God was like, just go do it and they were like, 863 00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:49,560 Speaker 4: we can't do it. And that's like the one that 864 00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:51,400 Speaker 4: I'm clinging to right now. I'm like, this all have, 865 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:53,480 Speaker 4: it's not enough, and He's like, it doesn't need to 866 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,960 Speaker 4: be enough. So just knowing these stories and knowing these 867 00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,279 Speaker 4: verses and the Lord will bring them to mind, so 868 00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:01,640 Speaker 4: you don't have to say, sit and be in the 869 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:05,160 Speaker 4: Bible every day. To be in the Bible every day 870 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,640 Speaker 4: when you read it, when you can, when you observe it, 871 00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:09,359 Speaker 4: even if it's a teeny tiny bit at a time, 872 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:10,640 Speaker 4: just to get it in your heart. 873 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:12,480 Speaker 1: The little remind you. 874 00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,000 Speaker 4: And it is such an encouragement to look back at 875 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,280 Speaker 4: those stories of Oh, you came through for that person, 876 00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,399 Speaker 4: and you came through for that person. You came through 877 00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,160 Speaker 4: for that person, and you gave this promise, and you 878 00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,120 Speaker 4: gave that promise, and you gave that promise, and the 879 00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,120 Speaker 4: God you are then is the God you are now 880 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:27,080 Speaker 4: and you will come through for me too. 881 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:29,240 Speaker 2: Amen. 882 00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:34,160 Speaker 3: Wow, I don't know if we can say anything more 883 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:38,680 Speaker 3: than what you just said, Brittany. And one thing in 884 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:42,880 Speaker 3: our regular listeners listeners will know that when we wrap 885 00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:48,080 Speaker 3: a particular podcast, we always recognize that a lot of 886 00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:52,799 Speaker 3: information has been shared, but we also want them to 887 00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:56,760 Speaker 3: be able to remember one thing or to take away 888 00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,960 Speaker 3: one thing that they can use going forward in their lives. 889 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,240 Speaker 3: And so with you, I'm going to ask a question. 890 00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:07,480 Speaker 3: I'm going to say for one of those average listeners, 891 00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,480 Speaker 3: if they were to remember just one thing that we 892 00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:15,240 Speaker 3: talked about right in this session, or if there's something 893 00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:19,040 Speaker 3: else about this that we didn't get to, what would 894 00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,960 Speaker 3: that one thing be in your mind that you feel 895 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:28,920 Speaker 3: would help them move forward with hopefulness, with courage in 896 00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:29,720 Speaker 3: a crazy time. 897 00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,399 Speaker 4: Yeah, the one thing I would just love to leave 898 00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,320 Speaker 4: if I had a microphone for the entire world. What 899 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,359 Speaker 4: I want to tell everyone is that following God is 900 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,560 Speaker 4: always worth it. And by following God, I don't mean 901 00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,480 Speaker 4: following it their way or their way. It's just focusing 902 00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:47,359 Speaker 4: in on what is God calling you to do in 903 00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,280 Speaker 4: this season right now where you are with the resources 904 00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:53,480 Speaker 4: He's given you the skills, the talents, the abilities, the interests, 905 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,160 Speaker 4: He's given you all of that. How is he calling 906 00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:59,919 Speaker 4: you to follow him right now? It's going to be hard, 907 00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:03,360 Speaker 4: It's gonna be really hard, but it is always worth it. 908 00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:05,799 Speaker 1: Wow. I love that. 909 00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:07,000 Speaker 3: I love that too. 910 00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:11,200 Speaker 2: Thank you so, brittany Ana. How can people find you? 911 00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:13,319 Speaker 2: How can they find your ministry? How can they find 912 00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,120 Speaker 2: your books like fall in Love with God's Word? 913 00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:16,680 Speaker 1: Uh? Yeah? 914 00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:20,960 Speaker 4: I blog online at equipping at godlywomen dot com, where 915 00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,960 Speaker 4: I challenge and courage and quit busy Christian moms to 916 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,000 Speaker 4: go all in in their faith and family and to 917 00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,319 Speaker 4: figure out what does that look like on a day 918 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,000 Speaker 4: to day basis. I have a bunch of books, my 919 00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:34,359 Speaker 4: two most applicable for this conversation or fall in Love 920 00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:36,560 Speaker 4: with God's Word, which is perfect if you are saying, hey, 921 00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,200 Speaker 4: I want to get into my Bible more regularly and 922 00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:41,680 Speaker 4: have that quiet time or that loud time whatever it 923 00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:43,520 Speaker 4: looks like. We're gonna help you figure out, like step 924 00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,400 Speaker 4: by step. I'm a very practical list thinker. Here is 925 00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,680 Speaker 4: how you, specifically in the season you're in, figure out 926 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:51,719 Speaker 4: how do I get into God's Word? And then the 927 00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,719 Speaker 4: follow up is follow God's will. That's okay. Once you're 928 00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:57,120 Speaker 4: reading your Bible? How do you live that out? What 929 00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,000 Speaker 4: does that look like on a Tuesday? How is God 930 00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:02,239 Speaker 4: calling you specifcifically in your season? I wish I could 931 00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:03,799 Speaker 4: say I'm on social media and all the things, but 932 00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:05,480 Speaker 4: like I do not have the band with right now, 933 00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:08,719 Speaker 4: so I don't know how people feel about email, but 934 00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:10,640 Speaker 4: like getting on my email list, like that is the 935 00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:14,360 Speaker 4: best way I send out encouragement every single week. And yeah, 936 00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:15,319 Speaker 4: that's the best way. 937 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:17,920 Speaker 1: That's fantastic. Thank you. 938 00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:21,360 Speaker 2: I want to say thanks to Brittany and for coming 939 00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:25,080 Speaker 2: on the show today. Please check out her books, her website, 940 00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,680 Speaker 2: her email list, the blog she's talking about for more 941 00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:33,000 Speaker 2: of what you've heard today. Clearly there's a lot of 942 00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,879 Speaker 2: insight there, and so we're going to put the details in. 943 00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:36,560 Speaker 1: The show notes. 944 00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:40,279 Speaker 2: And if you know someone who needs to hear what 945 00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:43,160 Speaker 2: she's been sharing today, what we've been talking about today, 946 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:47,000 Speaker 2: please share today's episode and tag us and tag her 947 00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:50,160 Speaker 2: on all your social media channels. 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