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Speaker 2: I have I'm going to throw out a theory today
Speaker 2: that I once I threw out once, and it is
Speaker 2: simply this. This is about our society at this time,
Speaker 2: or at least for the last generation. Something happens to
Speaker 2: a lot of women around age twenty nine in the
Speaker 2: way they look at life, so much so that it
Speaker 2: may in fact be a cause of a disproportionate number
Speaker 2: of marital breakups.
Speaker 1: That's coming off on Timeless Wisdom with Dennis Prager, and
Speaker 1: it starts right now.
Speaker 2: I am old fashioned. I like two sexes.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think all of a sudden, I don't like being
Speaker 2: married to what is known as a new woman. I
Speaker 2: want a wife, not a competitor.
Speaker 1: Competator, competitor, talk about a bit, this crying in the
Speaker 1: morning thing. It's depression, you know, let's get that fixed.
Speaker 4: That's what men think, isn't it.
Speaker 5: What Unless you've got the answer, Unless you can say, oh,
Speaker 5: I know this bloke in Essex Road, call fix that,
Speaker 5: and there's no point bothering.
Speaker 6: How do you write women so well?
Speaker 1: I think of a man and I take away reason
Speaker 1: and accountability.
Speaker 7: I love him.
Speaker 8: I love him and I don't care what you think.
Speaker 7: I love him for the for the man he wants
Speaker 7: to be, and I love him for the man that
Speaker 7: he almost is.
Speaker 5: What do people have rowse about him?
Speaker 2: Money? It's sex sex money he wants, she doesn't want,
Speaker 2: she wants, he doesn't want women. I've always been a
Speaker 2: big problem to me, doctor Fusspenden. Yes, yes, yes, go on,
Speaker 2: gon hi everybody, and welcome to the Welcome to the
Speaker 2: Dennis Prager Show, The Male Female Hour. Alrighty there, all right,
Speaker 2: throat be good, ah, my friends. Every week at this
Speaker 2: time we talk about men and women. It's titled The
Speaker 2: Male Female Hour, and I'm Dennis Prager and I welcome
Speaker 2: you to it. Truly honest talk about men and women.
Speaker 2: I mean, really honest. There are times that it's so
Speaker 2: honest and so mature to use a term that has
Speaker 2: fallen out of common usage that I actually tell you
Speaker 2: that maybe kids under a teenage years might not be
Speaker 2: it may not be appropriate, for that's not the case
Speaker 2: this time, but it gives you an idea of how
Speaker 2: honest we do talk about honestly we do talk about
Speaker 2: these issues I have. I'm going to throw out a
Speaker 2: theory today that I once I threw out once. Do
Speaker 2: we have that letter? By the way, hoh? Is this
Speaker 2: it good? Yes? I threw this out once or twice,
Speaker 2: perhaps in the course of talking about related ideas, but
Speaker 2: I never ever developed it, and I fully acknowledge it
Speaker 2: is just a theory of mine based on observation. It may,
Speaker 2: it may, and it may not be. Well, that's redundant.
Speaker 2: If it may, then it may not. You know, like
Speaker 2: when people say, well maybe or maybe not, but maybe
Speaker 2: means maybe not anyway, I love to get your reactions,
Speaker 2: and I suspect that, well, no, I think men may
Speaker 2: have something to say about this, but certainly, certainly I
Speaker 2: suspect a fair number of women. And if not not,
Speaker 2: we'll just find out. But if I'm right, it was
Speaker 2: worth raising in because the consequences of this may affect
Speaker 2: people down the road and not long down the road,
Speaker 2: as you will understand, quite considerably. And that is this,
Speaker 2: and I have believed this now for let's see, oh
Speaker 2: about twenty twenty five years, and it is simply this,
Speaker 2: at least in our society at our time. I do
Speaker 2: not say that at all, that this is universal. Most
Speaker 2: of my theories about men and women are universal. This
Speaker 2: is not. This is about our society at this time,
Speaker 2: or at least for the last generation. Something happens to
Speaker 2: a lot of women around age twenty nine in the
Speaker 2: way they look at life, so much so that it
Speaker 2: may in fact be a cause of a disproportionate number
Speaker 2: of marital breakups. If this resonates with you, call me
Speaker 2: male or female, but it is not. But it is
Speaker 2: about females. Males at twenty nine is no different than
Speaker 2: male at twenty five. Male at thirty five. Males have
Speaker 2: a fairly males may have a midlife crisis. But which
Speaker 2: of course, could be at fifty, at sixty, at forty five,
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. I would say those
Speaker 2: forty five to sixty five, I guess. But that's a
Speaker 2: very broad period of time and that we all know about.
Speaker 2: But there seems to be something that happens at around
Speaker 2: twenty nine to a lot of women who all of
Speaker 2: a sudden start asking and the full number here is
Speaker 2: one eighth Praeger seven seven six one eight pr g
Speaker 2: Er seven seven six, which is eight seven seven two
Speaker 2: four three triple seven six eight seven seven two four
Speaker 2: three triple seven six. And it appear years that, at
Speaker 2: about age twenty nine, a lot of women start asking
Speaker 2: who am I? What am I? What do I want
Speaker 2: in life? Why am I here in this marriage, in
Speaker 2: this relationship, in this in this work, in whatever. It's
Speaker 2: like it overtakes them. It's like a if there's a
Speaker 2: midlife crisis for men, then I don't know, is this
Speaker 2: an early life crisis. I don't know what to call it.
Speaker 2: A twenty nine year it's almost like an alarm clock.
Speaker 2: And look, if I didn't, if I didn't see this
Speaker 2: in more than a few cases, then I would never
Speaker 2: even bring it to your attention, and certainly I wouldn't
Speaker 2: broadcast it on a national radio show. I mean, it's
Speaker 2: it would be embarrassing if you know, I knew two
Speaker 2: people that something happened to and then say, folks, you
Speaker 2: tell me, do you do you find an increase in
Speaker 2: I don't know, Dan Ruffo at the age of thirty six.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's not like that it's that I have
Speaker 2: just too often seen it. I mentioned this once in
Speaker 2: passing and I received a number of responses. Here's an
Speaker 2: example of one from a Katie in Scottsdale, Arizona. Subject
Speaker 2: twenty nine is the magic number. Question mark please please
Speaker 2: please expand on this, Dennis, and then three exclamation points.
Speaker 2: This woman is into Trinity's please please please, three exclamation points.
Speaker 2: I have to know the theory. I am twenty nine
Speaker 2: and have undergone tremendous changes in the past year. I
Speaker 2: actually just told my husband the other night that I
Speaker 2: don't want to be married to him anymore. I love
Speaker 2: him and I don't want to end it, but he
Speaker 2: is such a miserable, selfish pain. Anyhow, this is just
Speaker 2: one of the many quote unquote changes. If you have
Speaker 2: some insight into this than we the royal we needed,
Speaker 2: then it's one exclamation point. Alrighty, So let's see if
Speaker 2: by the way, if this is so, if there really
Speaker 2: is this phenomenon in our society, then it there should
Speaker 2: be some It should have some effect on marital decisions
Speaker 2: that men and women make, and and I'll talk about that.
Speaker 2: It doesn't mean you don't marry a woman under twenty nine.
Speaker 2: But it means that care be taken by the woman
Speaker 2: and the man has she thought through a lot of
Speaker 2: things already, if it's even possible to do so in
Speaker 2: every case. All right, Catherine in Phoenix, Arizona, Catherine, Dennis
Speaker 2: Praeger High, Hi.
Speaker 7: Thanks so much for taking my call.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 7: As soon as I heard what you were saying, I
Speaker 7: stopped dead in my tracks and just picked up my ears.
Speaker 7: I completely I GESTI with everything you've just said. I
Speaker 7: think it's whether you're.
Speaker 2: Single, well you are, you are twenty nine.
Speaker 7: I am twenty nine, and I am single. I'm in
Speaker 7: a serious, committed relationship. But you start going through this
Speaker 7: phase of just asking all these questions and you feel
Speaker 7: like you know less now than you've ever known in
Speaker 7: your life, and it's hard to make decisions because it's
Speaker 7: kind of what the color of Katie from Scottsdale. You know,
Speaker 7: she's having major attortionities now. But I feel like it
Speaker 7: happens when you're single or married.
Speaker 5: Yes, and I would love to hear more.
Speaker 2: So wait, I want you. I want to hear a
Speaker 2: little more from you. Tell me what this alarm clock
Speaker 2: at age twenty nine alarmed you about.
Speaker 7: You start to ask career questions. You start to ask
Speaker 7: where am I headed in my life? What am I doing?
Speaker 7: Is that the right thing? But you're you're kind of
Speaker 7: at a point where if you are single, your I
Speaker 7: don't know if it's the biological clock, but something's ticking.
Speaker 7: It makes you feel like, well, if you're not married,
Speaker 7: you're either doing something wrong or I need to get
Speaker 7: on that bandwagon pretty soon.
Speaker 2: Right. But the women, but again, as I said, so
Speaker 2: many of the women wonder why they got married. I know,
Speaker 2: so it's it is an alarm clock. Did it take
Speaker 2: you by surprise?
Speaker 7: It's a girlfriend and I we have lots of theories.
Speaker 7: Around twenty six, she was a year ahead. She was
Speaker 7: at twenty seven. She says, Catherine, you're going to start
Speaker 7: going through a point in your life where things just
Speaker 7: don't make sense. And she was that, I feel like
Speaker 7: it starts happening around twenty six and twenty nine. I
Speaker 7: just it's I feel like it is stronger than it
Speaker 7: ever has been.
Speaker 2: And I know, you know, kind of trouble by the
Speaker 2: way you want you want Katie's email address, maybe you
Speaker 2: could stop. You want Katie's email address? Your neighbors, Sure,
Speaker 2: she's I can't do that. But now I'm just kidding.
Speaker 2: It would be fun, though, to have like the twenty
Speaker 2: nine year old Woman's club where you can all sit
Speaker 2: and say how confusing life is.
Speaker 7: And it's like, you know, I pray for answers and
Speaker 7: I just take you day by day.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, we'll have a lot of people, all
Speaker 2: I mean, we're just overloaded already with with thank you,
Speaker 2: thank you, Catherine. I appreciate it. I think I'm onto
Speaker 2: something here. And have you ever heard it? Be beyond
Speaker 2: me saying this? And I'm not sitting here to tell
Speaker 2: you I'm terrific. I just I have not seen it mentioned.
Speaker 2: And why in our society is it? You know? Is
Speaker 2: it happening in Uzbekistan and in Paraguay and I don't know.
Speaker 2: All right, well, we'll take more of your calls. This
Speaker 2: is the male Female Hour on the Dennis Prager Show.
Speaker 1: This episode of Timeless Wisdom. We'll continue right after this.
Speaker 1: Now back to more of Dennis Prager's timeless wisdom.
Speaker 2: This is the male female Hour on the Dennis Prager Show.
Speaker 2: And I'm Dennis Prager, and I try to be as
Speaker 2: transparent as possible, and it has its risks. But the
Speaker 2: benefits so far outweigh the risks. And therefore, when people
Speaker 2: say to me, you know Dennis, I feel like I
Speaker 2: know you? You do you do know me? This is
Speaker 2: me and the transparency that I'm about to offer you
Speaker 2: is what went into my making this hour on this subject.
Speaker 2: It is something I have thought about for twenty five years.
Speaker 2: But I gambled an effect in making this a subject
Speaker 2: for the Male Female Hour, because what if my theory
Speaker 2: was kaka maimie. I never read about it, nobody else
Speaker 2: told this to be, and so we really we debated
Speaker 2: Alan and I over this. He wanted it sooner than I.
Speaker 2: I finally felt like, let's take the risk. And yet
Speaker 2: I look at these calls and I think, I do
Speaker 2: think I'm onto something here, And if I am, it's
Speaker 2: a very important thing to know because the better people
Speaker 2: know themselves, and the better the sexes know each other,
Speaker 2: the more chance there is for good relations between the
Speaker 2: sex and a happier life. And it's a very simple theory.
Speaker 2: I hope it's not simplistic, but it is simple. Something
Speaker 2: happens to women and many women in our society around
Speaker 2: age twenty nine rethinking everything, A is it true? B
Speaker 2: If it is true, why is it so? So let's
Speaker 2: first see is it true and get some more calls.
Speaker 2: Here we go to Houston, Texas and is your name Hazen? Yes,
Speaker 2: there it is Hi Hazen, Dennis Prager, thanks for calling.
Speaker 5: Yeah, good afternoon, mister Prager. I think to answer your
Speaker 5: two questions right there, I think, yes, you're onto something.
Speaker 5: And I can only ponder a guest, but I think
Speaker 5: between the well.
Speaker 2: Tell us why you think I'm onto something? Tell us
Speaker 2: your own experience with this.
Speaker 5: Well. I celebrated my fifth year anniversary last weekend with
Speaker 5: my wife, got two lovely boys. And she needs time
Speaker 5: and space.
Speaker 2: And how old is she?
Speaker 5: She's thirty, okay?
Speaker 2: And did it seem to come out of nowhere?
Speaker 5: Out of nowhere? It just absolutely blindsided me. She's needed
Speaker 5: time and space. And and I'm to the point where
Speaker 5: as I told your screener, you know what are you doing?
Speaker 5: I've given you everything you've ever wanted. You stayed on mom,
Speaker 5: beautiful house, healthy boys, loved you. Everything I have is
Speaker 5: in your hands.
Speaker 2: Run with it.
Speaker 5: And she's all of a sudden now not happy. And
Speaker 5: I think she's not happy because what she's realizing this
Speaker 5: is where my pop psychology comes in. She's venturely. She
Speaker 5: doesn't know how to love. She doesn't know if it's
Speaker 5: if it's primal in like nineteen fifties ish, or if
Speaker 5: it's by being a strong, independent, career minded woman. She doesn't.
Speaker 5: She's I think she's so she's got to be torn up.
Speaker 5: There's there's a the biological as your earlier caller said
Speaker 5: about the biological Yeah.
Speaker 2: But she is. She has already met her biological clock.
Speaker 2: She has two kids. She had to exactly.
Speaker 5: No, your previous caller addressed that, And what I wanted
Speaker 5: to say is this clock has been met and uh
Speaker 5: and that part of the equation in my in my
Speaker 5: world is out, so you know. So now she's saying, Okay,
Speaker 5: well now I have everything I ever wanted, and now,
Speaker 5: well what is it that I really want? You you
Speaker 5: intimated that earlier.
Speaker 2: That's that's exactly right, Hazen. I just want you to
Speaker 2: know this is of no help to you, but my
Speaker 2: heart goes out to you. Please note that I I
Speaker 2: I'm not casting any villains here, but by the way,
Speaker 2: there are times I do. I I don't hesitate for
Speaker 2: making moral judgments, but I just want to say here
Speaker 2: that my heart goes out to a guy if what
Speaker 2: he describes is accurate, I mean, he is blindsided. You
Speaker 2: know what? What did I do wrong? He must make up,
Speaker 2: pinch himself and ask well, isn't this like the dream
Speaker 2: of women and folks. I'm not saying this as a
Speaker 2: condemnation or anything. I'm saying this is so we need
Speaker 2: to understand if the phenomenon is true. The need to
Speaker 2: know that, and if it is true, we need to
Speaker 2: figure out why because of a lot of gratuitous pain
Speaker 2: that occurs between humans. Mike and Philadelphia. You're on the
Speaker 2: Dennis Prager Show.
Speaker 9: Denz, thank you so much for taking my call. You
Speaker 9: are definitely on something here. I was married for seven
Speaker 9: years and my wife, well ex wife is twenty nine,
Speaker 9: and literally got blindsided, just like your other callers.
Speaker 2: You're thirty three now, yes you have kids. No, you
Speaker 2: were married seven years, so you married. She was twenty
Speaker 2: two when she married. Yes you were you the same age?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: Well were you?
Speaker 9: I was on Tlin four years older?
Speaker 2: All right to you? Oh, I us that this just happened, Yes,
Speaker 2: just that a year ago, and you were blind You
Speaker 2: were you? And you felt blindsided as.
Speaker 9: Well, absolutely, just one day I found out that there
Speaker 9: was an infinity, that there.
Speaker 2: Was a lot, There was a lot infidelity. Yeah, you're
Speaker 2: breaking up a little, okay, in infidelity? And what did
Speaker 2: she say to you? While were her words?
Speaker 9: She doesn't know what she wants?
Speaker 2: Boy, I tell you.
Speaker 9: And this was after years of marriage. You know home,
Speaker 9: you know everything. We're kind of moving towards a shared
Speaker 9: goal and then all of a sudden I was kind
Speaker 9: of left on my own and you loved her absolutely
Speaker 9: without a doubt.
Speaker 2: Wow, all right, Mike, I thank you so much. And
Speaker 2: you know you'll certainly meet somebody and have a happy life.
Speaker 2: I'm convinced of that. It's really uh. I mean, folks,
Speaker 2: if you throw out something like this, look, if you
Speaker 2: have a big enough audience. I'm not foolish. I understand
Speaker 2: that if you have a large enough audience a selection
Speaker 2: of humanity, then then you know, perhaps I could have
Speaker 2: said that men at twenty nine, this happens, But I
Speaker 2: don't think I would have filled up the lines like
Speaker 2: this with stories like this. My husband changed at twenty nine.
Speaker 2: I don't think that happens in one percent of the cases.
Speaker 2: All right, now, now we'll have enough time for me
Speaker 2: to offer what I think we might want to learn
Speaker 2: from this, but it's so important to hear from as
Speaker 2: many of you as possible. We go to Anaheim and Teresa, Hello, Teresa,
Speaker 2: Dennis Prager, Hi.
Speaker 6: Dennis, how you doing?
Speaker 2: I'm well? Thank you good?
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 6: Here is here is an opinion sixty plus point of view,
Speaker 6: kind of an overview of the various milestones in a
Speaker 6: woman's life. I think men seem to only have one milestone,
Speaker 6: and that would be midlife. Whenever that happens to them,
Speaker 6: and they try to feel younger, so they try to
Speaker 6: get dinner and they try to get a younger woman.
Speaker 6: But a woman realizes about twenty nine, she's really come
Speaker 6: of age when she's says, wow, you know, okay, life
Speaker 6: is passing by really quickly. Either I need to have
Speaker 6: a child if I have childless, or I need to
Speaker 6: go back to school, or I need to get a
Speaker 6: better job. And I think the reason behind this is
Speaker 6: that a woman is always seeming a woman always seems
Speaker 6: to want to get better. Men seem to feel like
Speaker 6: they've arrived. You know, they have their job, so they
Speaker 6: do their job and they come home and that's it.
Speaker 6: I'll be sixty three in a few days and right now.
Speaker 6: I mean, I want to do it all. I want to,
Speaker 6: you know, try different fun jobs after I retire. I
Speaker 6: want to enjoy the grandkids. I want to travel. I
Speaker 6: think women are more well rounded. I think that kind
Speaker 6: of ads to as to the problem of what you
Speaker 6: men seem to think is confusing in a way because
Speaker 6: you don't know what's happening in our minds. And I
Speaker 6: think women are just more well rounded than men.
Speaker 2: And we can so what happens at twenty nine is
Speaker 2: a virtue?
Speaker 6: Well, I think it's in a way, and I think
Speaker 6: women are getting married to soon. They should they should.
Speaker 2: Say well, that, by the way, is one of the
Speaker 2: questions I want to discuss here. If there is a
Speaker 2: lesson here, is that one of the conclusions to be
Speaker 2: drawn back in a.
Speaker 1: Moment this episode of Timeless Wisdom. We'll continue right after
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Speaker 2: Times. I think if we had one hundred lines to
Speaker 2: the studio, one hundred lines would be lit up and
Speaker 2: with apparently with examples of what I am talking about.
Speaker 2: One a Praguer seven seven six is the number if
Speaker 2: you can get in and and it's it's it's worth trying,
Speaker 2: people drop off or whatever happens. But in any event,
Speaker 2: the subject on this male female hour. Every week at
Speaker 2: this time, I devote an hour to male female issues.
Speaker 2: Is a theory of mine that I don't claim is
Speaker 2: unique to me, but I haven't heard it elsewhere. And
Speaker 2: that is that something happens around age twenty nine to
Speaker 2: a great many women in our society, and it's almost
Speaker 2: like an alarm clock goes off and brand new questions
Speaker 2: about their whole life arise. And as you've heard men
Speaker 2: calling up and saying, out of nowhere, in a seemingly happy,
Speaker 2: loving marriage, their wife wants a divorce out of nowhere. No,
Speaker 2: he has had no affair, and you know no, I mean,
Speaker 2: everything seemed to be great. It seems to come out
Speaker 2: of nowhere, and it seems to come out of nowhere
Speaker 2: to the woman too, It's not just to the man.
Speaker 2: And if this is true, then we have to figure
Speaker 2: out why. And once we figure out why, let's figure
Speaker 2: out what we can do about that. And let's go
Speaker 2: to Deborah in San Antonio, Texas. Hi. Deborah Dennis Prager.
Speaker 3: Hi, Dennis. First of all, I want to say that
Speaker 3: your idea is not kakameme. I would call you many things,
Speaker 3: but never cocka. Mamie.
Speaker 2: Well, I wouldn't call me kakamemi either. The question was
Speaker 2: where the idea was, not me?
Speaker 3: Go ahead, I won't make that connection. Then. I was
Speaker 3: just going to tell you that when I was about thirty,
Speaker 3: I had exactly what you're describing. Happened to me, and
Speaker 3: I've seen it happen to my girlfriends. I'm fifty now
Speaker 3: that I remember this very vividly, and what happened, in
Speaker 3: my opinion, is that women feel time passing so much
Speaker 3: more quickly than men do. And my theory is that
Speaker 3: our culture places so much value on youth and beauty,
Speaker 3: and when a woman starts getting close to thirty, we
Speaker 3: begin to feel that we only have a few good
Speaker 3: years left, and suddenly there's a pick to wonder, is
Speaker 3: there something better with these few good years. It's kind
Speaker 3: of like listening to the radio and you like the
Speaker 3: song that's on, but what if there's something better? So
Speaker 3: you switch stations. And that's what happened with me. I
Speaker 3: walked away from a very content, perfectly good life because
Speaker 3: I panicked because I thought time is slipping away? Time
Speaker 3: is running out? And what if I what if there
Speaker 3: was something better for me? What if I could have
Speaker 3: you know, done better? What if there could have been
Speaker 3: more for.
Speaker 2: Me or a better man I'm sorry, or a better man?
Speaker 3: Well maybe that I was married to a wonderful man.
Speaker 2: Well wait, wait, did you stay married?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 3: I got a divorce?
Speaker 2: All right, So then then what I what I said
Speaker 2: was accurate. That part of the what if there was
Speaker 2: something better was what if there's a better man? You
Speaker 2: yourself said, I'll switch stations.
Speaker 3: Sure, I think that was part of it is could
Speaker 3: there be a better marriage?
Speaker 2: Okay? Fine, all right? And in retrospect, did you, by
Speaker 2: the way, did you remarry?
Speaker 6: I did?
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, so it's hard to ask because it would
Speaker 2: seem to it would it doesn't reflect on your current marriage.
Speaker 2: But uh, I'll still ask, and please know that it
Speaker 2: doesn't reflect you. May have the most wonderful marriage in
Speaker 2: the world, but in retrospect, do you think it was
Speaker 2: worthy of divorcing over?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: I wish I had been more mature. I'm so happy
Speaker 3: with my marriage. Now.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, you are an honest woman, because you see
Speaker 2: it would be tempting for you to say, well, since
Speaker 2: I'm so happily married. Now I realized it was the
Speaker 2: right decision. But you answered me very honestly, and I
Speaker 2: salute you for that. You're you're a very deep person
Speaker 2: and I appreciate that call. But this is exactly why
Speaker 2: I raised this. And it was a gamble, as I said,
Speaker 2: because what if I was just wrong and people would
Speaker 2: think the guy has this bizarre theory met you know,
Speaker 2: he met two women in his life that this or
Speaker 2: heard about two cases, and now he's generalizing, you know,
Speaker 2: my my theory. Anyway, generalizations are the mother of wisdom,
Speaker 2: but of course a wrong generalization is the mother of foolishness.
Speaker 2: So better don well be a good generalization. You don't
Speaker 2: have a very clear view of the world. I think
Speaker 2: this is clear, so I will take more calls, but
Speaker 2: I think now we have to ask and I will
Speaker 2: have to start thinking through with you if this is true,
Speaker 2: and apparently it is, what can be done to forestall tragedy?
Speaker 2: And one answer I'll tell you right now is just
Speaker 2: given by Deborah. It's called maturity, and that is not
Speaker 2: something we aim for much in this society. It's a
Speaker 2: big problem male female hour at Dennis Prager show well
Speaker 2: to my satisfaction, and I'm Dennis Prager, and this is
Speaker 2: the male female Hour to my intellectual satisfaction. I think
Speaker 2: we've established that my theory has a basis in reality
Speaker 2: that enough of itself is worth talking about. By the way,
Speaker 2: how you come to understand life based on your own experiences,
Speaker 2: whether your experiences are atypical or not. I mean there's
Speaker 2: a lot in that whole issue of what you can
Speaker 2: you learn from your own observations, because remember, college makes
Speaker 2: you stupider. I mean that literally. I don't mean it.
Speaker 2: It's an attack, but I don't mean it to be
Speaker 2: an attack. I mean it literally. It makes you stupider
Speaker 2: in part because it says what you observe means nothing.
Speaker 2: The only thing you can ever learn from our studies,
Speaker 2: and so we become stupider when we look at life. Anyway,
Speaker 2: that's a side issue, but a very important side issue,
Speaker 2: hence I mentioned it. My theory is that for many
Speaker 2: women in our society, I'm not speaking about other societies
Speaker 2: or historically, around the age of twenty nine, for many
Speaker 2: women and some alarm clock goes off out of nowhere
Speaker 2: seemingly and asks the ultimate questions of what am I?
Speaker 2: Who am I? What am I doing here? Whatever? The
Speaker 2: here is? Why am I single? Why am I married?
Speaker 2: Why do I have kids? Why don't I have this job?
Speaker 2: Why are and I traveling? Why are and I staying home?
Speaker 2: Why are and I? Who am I? Well? Will be
Speaker 2: the best you like? Some of you are so eloquent,
Speaker 2: by the way, It's my point. You remember that when
Speaker 2: people are passionate, they become eloquent. And some of you
Speaker 2: have truly been, and you feel women do in our
Speaker 2: society at any rate with the premium on youth and beauty,
Speaker 2: how many years that was really irrevelatory and for many people,
Speaker 2: I think, how many years do I have left at
Speaker 2: this worth? And have I done the very best I
Speaker 2: can do with this? It's almost like I have a treasure.
Speaker 2: The treasure is now starting to flow through my hands
Speaker 2: before it dissipates. What can I do? What do I
Speaker 2: even want to do? Is what many women ask now.
Speaker 2: And this last woman, I mean just honestly saying as
Speaker 2: great as her current marriage is, that there was no
Speaker 2: good reason for her to divorce at thirty, but she did. Dallas,
Speaker 2: Texas and Julietta Julietta Dennis Prager, thank you for calling.
Speaker 2: How old are you? I am twenty one, sir, Oh,
Speaker 2: so you have eight years to look forward to.
Speaker 6: Sounds like it.
Speaker 8: I listened to you all the time, and I don't
Speaker 8: think I've ever been as interested in a topic as
Speaker 8: this one. I told your screener, I'm twenty one, and
Speaker 8: I know that I'm young and all this stuff, but
Speaker 8: I think that it doesn't necessarily deal with being twenty nine.
Speaker 8: I think the factor that you have to look at
Speaker 8: is if you have a goal in mind and if
Speaker 8: you've achieved it. I am currently in law school. I
Speaker 8: finished college in two and a half years. I'm kind
Speaker 8: of just on the fast track, and I think I
Speaker 8: had something like this. I don't think to the same
Speaker 8: extent because I'm single and you know, I still live
Speaker 8: with my parents trying to save money. But I think
Speaker 8: I came to the point where I was just thinking,
Speaker 8: you know, I've done everything, like what am I going
Speaker 8: to do when I graduate? I'm going to have a
Speaker 8: job and done what?
Speaker 2: And then you know, so you think, so you think
Speaker 2: you have speeded up your life, is what you're saying,
Speaker 2: and you're asking these questions already.
Speaker 8: It's not necessarily spew it out my life. I'm happy
Speaker 8: with where I am. I think it's just the idea
Speaker 8: of having some goal in mind, and I've already. I
Speaker 8: think it happens for twenty nine year olds later, because
Speaker 8: I mean, not everybody goes through at the same place, right.
Speaker 2: Well, I somehow wish. It's very rare that I ever
Speaker 2: want to visit the future. I have no desire to
Speaker 2: see the future, but if I could have a call
Speaker 2: with you in eight years, I would love that. I mean,
Speaker 2: in other words, now if I could, if I could
Speaker 2: somehow visit the future, I'd like to know if all
Speaker 2: of your goal setting and obviously terrific attainments at your
Speaker 2: age you sound like a remarkable young woman, will in
Speaker 2: some way a militi against your going through this experience
Speaker 2: at twenty nine. I just don't know. I'm agnostic on
Speaker 2: the issue. I'm not predicting it at will. Julietta, I
Speaker 2: can't say this to women, though, it is worth asking
Speaker 2: these big questions before twenty nine, because no wisdom is
Speaker 2: given over in college, none zero. In fact, it's anti wisdom.
Speaker 2: I think that that's a factor. This is about seven
Speaker 2: eight years after college. For many women, they have had
Speaker 2: time to undo the foolishness that college has instilled in them,
Speaker 2: like profession is everything, or indeed, to assimilate it, whatever
Speaker 2: it might be. I don't think that that's the only
Speaker 2: factor by any means, but I think it is a factor.
Speaker 2: We are not kids are not made wise today. They're
Speaker 2: made educated, but they're not made wise religion, which was
Speaker 2: a major factor in wisdom teaching. Kids would learn proverbs,
Speaker 2: for example, Most kids today never heard of the Book
Speaker 2: of Proverbs, but so today there are no aphorisms even
Speaker 2: in their lives. They don't know what the word aforism means,
Speaker 2: for that matter, and so they don't get wisdom, and
Speaker 2: so wisdom is achieved only through experience, and experience is
Speaker 2: a great teacher. But if only experience teaches, and we
Speaker 2: learn nothing from our elders or from traditions that precede
Speaker 2: our elders, then we will all be fools until we
Speaker 2: experience life. And it shouldn't have to be that way.
Speaker 2: The whole point is to learn about life as best
Speaker 2: as possible without having to experience it. When I was
Speaker 2: a kid, I used to say, if one hundred people
Speaker 2: in front of me are walking in a certain direction,
Speaker 2: and they all fall off a cliff. I don't feel
Speaker 2: it necessary to fall off that cliff. I take their
Speaker 2: word for it. I will fall off the cliff too.
Speaker 2: That's sense to say that life hasn't taught me an
Speaker 2: immense amount. It certainly has. But I did believe that
Speaker 2: there was wisdom that preceded me. And these are questions
Speaker 2: I would advise every young woman listening to ask herself,
Speaker 2: who am I? What do I really want? Life? What
Speaker 2: is really important? Ask those questions now. The sooner you
Speaker 2: ask them, the less that alarm clock will be loud
Speaker 2: when life will force you to ask those questions. What
Speaker 2: sort of man do I really want? What sort of marriage?
Speaker 6: Do?
Speaker 2: I believe that marriage is at least as important as career? Children?
Speaker 2: What about children? In fact, it's funny because we were debating.
Speaker 2: The other subject I was thinking of doing for this
Speaker 2: hour was how children can adversely affect the relationship between
Speaker 2: husband and wife. I'm going to talk about that obviously
Speaker 2: another week, but that is something to think about in advance.
Speaker 2: The more that life hits you with surprise is the
Speaker 2: less able we are to deal with them. The more
Speaker 2: we can think through in advance, the better we will
Speaker 2: be able to deal with life. So for young women
Speaker 2: knowing that twenty nine may all of a sudden pose
Speaker 2: all these questions, ask them now at twenty four and
Speaker 2: help others. Ask others to help you answer them. There
Speaker 2: are people over thirty who have wisdom. Back in a moment.
Speaker 2: I'm Dennis Prager.
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Speaker 2: twenty nine? Jessica, Minneapolis, Dennis Praguer, High, Hi, Dennis, I'm
Speaker 2: just shaking.
Speaker 4: I can't believe I'm not alone in this. I'm twenty
Speaker 4: nine and I've been married nine years, and i have
Speaker 4: three kids, and I'm secure in my marriage. My husband
Speaker 4: went through I don't know if you call it a
Speaker 4: corter life crisis at twenty six and I was forced
Speaker 4: to deal with that whole year. Why am I in
Speaker 4: this marriage? Is it worth it? And we were through that,
Speaker 4: and I feel very secure and solid in my marriage.
Speaker 4: But I feel like since I've turned twenty nine and
Speaker 4: I've had a crisis in every other one of my relationships.
Speaker 4: I've stopped talking to my mom, who's been emotionally abusive
Speaker 4: my whole life. I've evaluated every single friendship I have.
Speaker 4: I feel like I'm going through a crisis of faith.
Speaker 6: What is real?
Speaker 4: What does God want?
Speaker 8: From me.
Speaker 4: Who do I believe? And who is right? And what
Speaker 4: am I supposed to be doing? What am I doing here?
Speaker 6: What is my purpose?
Speaker 4: It's nice to know that I'm not alone, and I'm
Speaker 4: so glad you're doing this hour.
Speaker 2: Oh, thank you for telling me you are not alone, Jessica.
Speaker 2: It seems to me that women who go through that
Speaker 2: age and don't have this issue, they're more in the
Speaker 2: minority than you are.
Speaker 4: Oh.
Speaker 2: I will have a lot to say about this and
Speaker 2: ensuing weeks, by the way, but I did want to
Speaker 2: get to who is this? John? Was that right? The
Speaker 2: one yes? John? In Los Angeles? Dennis Prager High, Are
Speaker 2: you okay? Thank you?
Speaker 10: So I completely agree with you.
Speaker 2: I heard it.
Speaker 10: When I think one time you had mentioned it previously,
Speaker 10: and I just happened to hear that snippet, and I
Speaker 10: thought I was gonna cry because I went through it
Speaker 10: three years ago when my wife just turned twenty nine,
Speaker 10: and we had been planning our wedding and our kids
Speaker 10: and started building our dreamhouse and we spent five years together.
Speaker 10: And it was the weekend after Thanksgiving and we just
Speaker 10: had family over and she cooked and everything was so happy.
Speaker 10: And I came home from Mark, and she said that
Speaker 10: she thinks we're moving in different directions.
Speaker 2: That's right, all right, what does it all mean? That's
Speaker 2: why I invite you to future editions of The Male
Speaker 2: Female Hour. I'm Dennis Braker.
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