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Speaker 2: And Howard Lutnick and his wife and children having lunch

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Speaker 2: all over again. Today. This is the council to Barack

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Speaker 2: So this was all while she shielded Barack Obama's White

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Speaker 2: So again, put all of it in context. And Trump

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Speaker 2: whether they trafficked in sex with children or whether they didn't.

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Speaker 2: We are a society now who knows. We have the

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Speaker 2: the last couple of decades that has done anything with him,

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Speaker 2: And you're really suspect if you're taking flights with him

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Speaker 2: I can't tell you how to feel about this Jeffrey

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Speaker 2: But if we're rating it, the Lutnik family lunch with

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Speaker 2: Scott Jennings was out there, Larry Elder was out there.

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Speaker 2: And here's some of it. The so called endangerment finding

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Speaker 9: These crippling restrictions were a major factor in driving up

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Speaker 9: Immediately, we're repealing the ridiculous endangerment finding and terminating all

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Speaker 2: ever encountered an energy efficient product? That you use, name

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Speaker 2: Does it actually clean anything? Answer? No Environmental rules for

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Speaker 2: need power, more power cap a lot, and it's not

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Speaker 2: coming from pin wheels. The stupid In fact, Trump was

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Speaker 2: asked about the win mills yesterday, give me number seventy one.

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Speaker 3: What do you do to make sure these things.

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Speaker 9: Well, we're trying to make sure it doesn't happen, and

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Speaker 9: we've basically stopped all windmills in this country. It's the

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Speaker 9: most expensive energy you can get. They're all made in China,

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Speaker 9: a little bit in Germany, but mostly in China, and

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Speaker 9: we're putting them all over our fields and ruining the

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Speaker 9: fields and killing the birds and all of this. And

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Speaker 9: the Environmentalis say they like them, but they really are

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Speaker 9: a tremendous isore.

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Speaker 6: They've ruined.

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Speaker 9: Europe has gone as you know, it's gone to it.

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Speaker 9: Europe is even recognizable anymore, between immigration and because of

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Speaker 9: environmental things like the windmills which are taking over.

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Speaker 2: The people hate them.

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Speaker 9: The energy is by far the most expensive, and we're

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Speaker 9: fighting very hard to make sure that they don't get built.

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Speaker 9: I hope we don't have one built. During my administration,

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Speaker 9: we inherited some contracts where they've gone down the line

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Speaker 9: a little bit. We're trying to terminate them for a

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Speaker 9: lot of different reasons. One of the reasons is you

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Speaker 9: had mentioned dagerment for the military. It's also in dangerment

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Speaker 9: for airliners. So we're trying to take care of those situations.

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Speaker 2: Now, that's good. So this is real stuff that affects

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Speaker 2: your life and mind. This is important. This is the

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Speaker 2: real news. This is stuff that a president of the

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Speaker 2: United States can impact to better your life and mind.

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Speaker 2: Right now, what he just did yesterday, this should matter

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Speaker 2: to you more than virtually anything else. If you're concerned

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Speaker 2: about the price of things, if you're concerned about the

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Speaker 2: price of electricity and your energy needs, if you're concerned

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Speaker 2: about rolling blackouts and brownouts during extreme weather, this should

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Speaker 2: matter more to you than anything else. Now, the news

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Speaker 2: media today will tell you that anything matters more than

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Speaker 2: what he just said. I would submit to you that

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Speaker 2: what just happened yesterday is more important than virtually anything else.

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Speaker 2: If you value this thing that you carry around in

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Speaker 2: your purse or your pocket, and you like hopping on

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Speaker 2: AI and Google in the blink of an eye, if

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Speaker 2: you like the convenience of living in twenty twenty six,

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Speaker 2: what he did yesterday is more important than anything else

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Speaker 2: anyone else is talking about. Over at CBS, though, Uija

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Speaker 2: Jiang very concerned about your public health Number seventy.

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Speaker 10: Two tell Americans who are concerned that at one point,

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Speaker 10: for your trillion dollars in savings, does cometic cost to

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Speaker 10: public health and the environment.

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Speaker 11: Based on clients.

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Speaker 9: I tell him, don't worry about it, because it has

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Speaker 9: nothing to do with public health. And this is all

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Speaker 9: a scam, a giant scam. This is a ripoff of

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Speaker 9: the country by Obama and Biden. And let's say Obama

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Speaker 9: started it and got it rolling, and a terrible ripoff.

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Speaker 9: They'll have more money to spend for healthcare if you

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Speaker 9: look at it now, they can go at it.

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Speaker 2: This is why I vote for this guy. This is

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Speaker 2: why I'm thrilled he's president. He looks down the barrel

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Speaker 2: of these ridiculous questions, what about public health? What about

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Speaker 2: the threat of climate to public health? And he looks

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Speaker 2: right at her and he goes, it's a scam. Lady. Next,

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Speaker 2: that's just tremendous. That's Stapleton. You guys watching on the

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Speaker 2: Salem News channel. You got a beautiful looking shot of

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Speaker 2: the nation's capital today as the sun comes up. Those

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Speaker 2: of you listening who can't see that beautiful shot, you're

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Speaker 2: listening to just some of the most fantastic singing. You're

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Speaker 2: going to get for my money. Chris Stapleton, just fantastic

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Speaker 2: Chris Stapleton for me for my money. I don't know

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Speaker 2: that I've ever gone to an arena show. He opened

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Speaker 2: for George Strait of all things. At a concert I saw,

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Speaker 2: I think a couple of summers ago, and Chris Stapleton walked.

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Speaker 2: This will always stay with me. I don't have a

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Speaker 2: memory for shows. I know ed you said that you

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Speaker 2: went to see your Backstreet Boys and you said that

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Speaker 2: was the greatest concert that you'll ever see. I have

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Speaker 2: a poor recall on that stuff. I will enjoy something

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Speaker 2: and then I'll forget. People say, do you remember on

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Speaker 2: third and four when the Eagles went for it in

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Speaker 2: nineteen eighty two, you know, And I'm like, I, I

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Speaker 2: don't have that kind of memory. You know people that

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Speaker 2: have that kind of memory. I don't, do you. I

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Speaker 2: used to.

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Speaker 3: Ever since I hit my thirties, I've lost that kind

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Speaker 3: of memory.

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Speaker 2: I mean, and I don't know if it's just because

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Speaker 2: because I remember feeling emotional about games or concerts generally,

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Speaker 2: but I can't tell you specifically the play or the

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Speaker 2: moment under the look of the show. But one of

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Speaker 2: the moments that I will always remember in concert history

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Speaker 2: was Chris Stapleton, who was a pretty big deal. I

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Speaker 2: mean it was just a couple of years ago. Already

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Speaker 2: everybody knew who he was. He was opening for George

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Speaker 2: straight sold out arena and everybody's excited to see Chris Stapleton.

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Speaker 2: And everybody's just kind of standing around, you know, as

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Speaker 2: people do, waiting for the show to start. No bally who,

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Speaker 2: no fireworks, no and now ladies and gentlemen. Nothing. He

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Speaker 2: just walks out, picks up the guitar and starts playing.

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Speaker 2: That's it. Doesn't say a word, doesn't welcome anybody. I

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Speaker 2: think he said good evening maybe, and then just started.

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Speaker 2: And I looked at my wife, I go, is the

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Speaker 2: show starting? Is that? What it said to me was

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Speaker 2: I'm so good at what I do. I'm just going

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Speaker 2: to let it do the speaking for me. I'm just

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Speaker 2: going to let what I do handle the rest and

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Speaker 2: the place. Of course, it was lights out, and he

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Speaker 2: brought the place down and he didn't need any of it.

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Speaker 2: He didn't need any kind of fanfare, no announcing, no

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Speaker 2: musical interlude, no lights, nothing, just walked down on the

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Speaker 2: stage and started playing and brought the house down.

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Speaker 3: That's no, It's unbelievable. And Chris, you ask if I

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Speaker 3: do remember that happened in twenty eighteen. I will always

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Speaker 3: have respect. You're gonna laugh. It's another pop guy, Ed Sheeron.

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Speaker 3: I will always have respect for Ed Sheeran his show

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Speaker 3: at the Link in twenty eighteen. I was actually working it.

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Speaker 3: I had no idea what to expect. Obviously, screaming girls everywhere.

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Speaker 3: He came out with an acoustic guitar, same thing, and

548
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Speaker 3: just brought the house.

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Speaker 2: Down, and it was just isn't that funny? That's so

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Speaker 2: you remember that like Stapleton, he did the same thing,

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Speaker 2: just no no fanfare, just walked out and started singing.

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Speaker 12: Yep.

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Speaker 2: See. Now, that to me is just supreme talent and confidence.

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Speaker 2: That's a guy that just says I don't need any

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Speaker 2: of the noise. I don't need any fanfare. Just let

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Speaker 2: the voice handle the work. Let's go to Paul in

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Speaker 2: North Carolina to get the show started today and open

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Speaker 2: line Friday because I'm late on getting to call. Sorry, Paul,

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Speaker 2: what's on your mind? Good morning, Thanks for waiting.

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Speaker 13: Good morning, Chris. First off, I want to thank you

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Speaker 13: for being the voice of righteousness and the surge of

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Speaker 13: evil that we face today. I was going to talk

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Speaker 13: about the Holy One that was still in but from

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Speaker 13: what you were saying before about the climate situation, I

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Speaker 13: don't know if you're aware that no matter how much

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Speaker 13: carbon that we put into the air, the trees are

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Speaker 13: the ones that maintaining the level of carbon. They're growing

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Speaker 13: faster because we are putting more carbon in the air.

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Speaker 2: So that's amen. It's a what's the word? It's a

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Speaker 2: why am I forgetting the world all of a sudden,

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Speaker 2: It's like a supplement trees. I mean, the planet is

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Speaker 2: greener than it's ever been. Actually, you know, if it

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Speaker 2: warms a little bit, you can grow more vegetation, which

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Speaker 2: is better for crops and food production.

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Speaker 13: But I digress, And the other point I wanted to

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Speaker 13: make is that I just watched the documentary on the chemtrails.

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Speaker 13: I live in Monroe County, Union County in Monroe, which

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Speaker 13: is in the out in rural area, and I have

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Speaker 13: probably twenty four to thirty pictures of chemtrails, and it

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Speaker 13: looks like, like, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, I'm gonna I don't mean to interrupt you on this,

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Speaker 2: It's just that I haven't spent a lot of time

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Speaker 2: in study on that thing. But you think, what do

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Speaker 2: you think think that is? Give me a ten second answer.

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Speaker 13: They call it geo engineering. They're controlling the weather and

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Speaker 13: they're using it as a military way to affect other countries.

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Speaker 2: All right, duly noted registered, it's open line Friday. As

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Speaker 2: I said, anything goes, even chemdrails. What the hell see

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Speaker 2: if you're on Obamacare, you know how expensive those premiums

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Speaker 2: times a year. So if you would like to become

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Speaker 2: part of some of the elite in this audience, the

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Speaker 2: super smart, come on in. The conversations are great. I

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Speaker 2: know that I learn a lot from hermers. I poll

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Speaker 2: you on daily news and issues that I want specifically

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Speaker 2: to hear from this audience rather than social media. I

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Speaker 2: could do the polls on X and stuff like that,

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Speaker 2: but that's I'll drive by troll hater stuff. I don't

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Speaker 2: like that. I like the benevolent dictatorship of the Harump Society.

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Speaker 2: There's no trolls, there's no sniping. Again, doesn't mean everybody

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Speaker 2: agrees in the Harrum Society. It just means everybody's decent

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Speaker 2: and kind and we're all on the same team, no subversives.

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Speaker 2: So Chris stiggul dot com and I hope you will

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Speaker 2: join us. There also open line Friday at eight five

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Speaker 2: fives to gaul come on in love to talk to

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Speaker 2: you today. In fact, let's kick off the hour with

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Speaker 2: a call, let's go to Indiana and talk to Rudy. Hey, Rudy,

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Speaker 2: glad you're here. Thanks for being a part of the show.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Good morning.

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Speaker 14: Yeah. When Trump and the Feds went into raid some

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Speaker 14: of the fake businesses, they pulled all the books in

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Speaker 14: the hard drives, and they found ill Hand's name on

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Speaker 14: the books with her husband and her brother, and Walts

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Speaker 14: was on the books, and Fry was on the books.

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Speaker 14: And there were a few attorneys and some judges that

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Speaker 14: were covering some of their illegal activities because they had

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Speaker 14: a little legal cover, but the Feds went in and

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Speaker 14: arrested them. I don't think she knows that legal protection's gone.

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Speaker 14: So even if they don't get every single person in

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Speaker 14: the rest of the suite, it's definitely going to give

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Speaker 14: the Democrats a very, very very bad name and take

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Speaker 14: out over half of them.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's interesting you bring this up, Rudy, and

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Speaker 2: I'm glad that you did. I will just offer this

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Speaker 2: as a suggestion, and I offered this at the Herrum

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Speaker 2: Society a couple of weeks ago. I'm not saying this

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Speaker 2: is true. I'm not saying I know this. I'm just

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Speaker 2: asking you if you think this is a possibility. Could

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Speaker 2: Pambondy doj Cash, Mattel FBI Trump himself. Could they know

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Speaker 2: that there's some stuff like this they've been wanting to

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Speaker 2: look at they now have hard evidence about, and that

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Speaker 2: they will soon roll out charges pretty explosive stuff coming

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Speaker 2: a little later in the year. Said another way, they

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Speaker 2: and you know, look, you want justice whenever it gets here.

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Speaker 2: I don't. You don't want to politicize it. But what

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Speaker 2: if to be the most impactful they roll out the

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Speaker 2: stuff that you've just discussed and charge this kind of

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Speaker 2: stuff a little later in the year to kind of

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Speaker 2: remind the American public just how scandal ridden the Democrat

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Speaker 2: Party really is. Is that a possibility for people that

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Speaker 2: feel like they haven't moved fast enough? Is that a possibility? Rudy,

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Speaker 2: see that coming?

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Speaker 14: Because even if you go in minute detail and try

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Speaker 14: to see where everyone else is at, if you just

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Speaker 14: take what's there, what's on the books which you can

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Speaker 14: see and connect the dot to just doing that will

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Speaker 14: put a huge dent and put a huge dent in

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Speaker 14: what you're doing and take out over half the Democrats.

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Speaker 2: Well, Rudy, I like what you're saying. I think you're right.

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Speaker 2: I think they found some stuff in these sweeps that

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Speaker 2: in fact, that's the news today that Trump is pulling

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Speaker 2: out of Minneapolis altogether. Tom Holman effectively had a press

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Speaker 2: conference yes today and said we're done here. I think

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Speaker 2: they got what they needed, And to your point, I

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Speaker 2: think they found a lot of dirt. Ellison was up

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Speaker 2: on Capitol Hill yesterday with Josh Holly. That went poorly.

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Speaker 2: I'll have some of that for you in a minute.

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Speaker 2: But you know, the broader point is, for nearly a decade,

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Speaker 2: Democrats have been telling us that President Trump is the

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Speaker 2: authoritarian and some go further and call him a fascist.

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Speaker 2: And of course that's all built on the idea that

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Speaker 2: he is supportive of centralized state power. Now, I just

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Speaker 2: told you in the last hour he is deregulating big time.

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Speaker 2: He's getting government out of the way of your energy

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Speaker 2: consumption and mind to make it less expensive to let

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Speaker 2: commerce and business grow. That is just one bit of

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Speaker 2: evidence to suggest this is not a guy that wants

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Speaker 2: to centralize power. Again, Fascism, authoritarianism is developed and built

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Speaker 2: on centralized state power. So let's look at the governing philosophies. Okay,

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Speaker 2: not rhetoric. Authoritarian systems expand and control, They consolidate authority,

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Speaker 2: They enlarge the administrative state. Eight Now, who does that

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Speaker 2: sound like? Who wants to grow the administrative state? And

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Speaker 2: which president did? We just find out has brought federal

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Speaker 2: jobs down to the lowest level in fifty years. Do

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Speaker 2: you know that this is the smallest federal workforce force

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Speaker 2: we've had as a country in fifty years? Who enlarges it?

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Speaker 2: Who wants it bigger? And who wants it smaller? Authoritarians

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Speaker 2: do not dismantle federal government jobs. They grow them. In

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Speaker 2: two thousand and nine, Barack Obama's EPA issued this endangerment

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Speaker 2: finding declaring carbon dioxide a regulated pollutant under the Clean

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Speaker 2: Air Act. It's absurd carbon dioxide What you and I

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Speaker 2: exhale a nutrient plants need to survive. And with that

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Speaker 2: one ruling, that unlocked sweeping federal authority over power, plants, cars,

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Speaker 2: vast sectors of the American economy. From that flow the

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Speaker 2: Clean Power Plan, aggressive greenhouse gas standards, all designed to

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Speaker 2: reshape our energy grid. Now, whatever you want to believe

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Speaker 2: about climate policy, the structural effect of what Barack Obama

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Speaker 2: did was clear. It was a significant expansion of federal

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Speaker 2: power over how we produce and consume energy. Its government

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Speaker 2: dictated centralization. How about the Affordable Care Act Obamacare, reorganizing

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Speaker 2: a sixth of the United States economy. Think of that?

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Speaker 2: Are you starting to see it more clearly?

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Speaker 12: Now?

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Speaker 2: The governing instinct of Barack Obama and the left was

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Speaker 2: regulatory expansion, Grow the size of government, more federal rules,

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Speaker 2: broader agency discretion over things you and I consume and do,

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Speaker 2: deeper bureaucratic reach. What's Donald Trump doing the opposite? He's

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Speaker 2: undoing all of these things, and yet he's called the

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Speaker 2: fascist and the authoritarian. In his first term, deregulation was

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Speaker 2: a central objective For every new regulation, two were eliminated

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Speaker 2: under Donald Trump. The Clean Power Plan was completely rescinded.

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Speaker 2: Permitting with streamlined domestic energy production went through the roof.

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Speaker 2: We had oil tankers full, we couldn't store, sitting off

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Speaker 2: the coasts, just brimming with oil. Now he's repealed this

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Speaker 2: stupid endangerment finding, and Trump is targeting the legal cornerstone

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Speaker 2: of all that regulatory architecture. Now you can debate the policy,

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Speaker 2: but dismantling federal regulatory authority is not authoritarian. That's not

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Speaker 2: what a fascist does. Authoritarians, once again, they can solid power.

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Speaker 2: They don't surrender power. They don't deregulate. Deregulation disperses authority.

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Speaker 2: It shifts the decision making away from federal agencies and

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Speaker 2: back towards the states and to markets and to citizens.

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Speaker 2: It narrows the government footprint, not expands it. So you

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Speaker 2: can call Trump disruptive, you can call him embarrassing, you

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Speaker 2: can call him brash, you can call him whatever you

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Speaker 2: want to call him. You may oppose everything about him,

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Speaker 2: but a president systematically reducing regulatory authority. He may be

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Speaker 2: a lot of things, but he ain't a fascist. He's

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Speaker 2: shrinking the state. The irony is that those most comfortable

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Speaker 2: with expansive federal management of energy, healthcare, finance, one of

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Speaker 2: the greatest deregulators in our nation's history, they call him

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Speaker 2: a despot. It's obscene. Words matter. It's just a bald

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Speaker 2: faced lie. And it's why we're being treated to Ice

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Speaker 2: distractions or Epstein distractions, because he is dismantling the state

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Speaker 2: as we speak. You know that caller referencing the fraud

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Speaker 2: in Minneapolis. I think this hearing yesterday that coincided with

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Speaker 2: Keith Ellison, the Attorney General of Minnesota. It got fiery

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Speaker 2: with Josh Holly. I'll have some of this in just

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Speaker 2: a minute, but I pretty sure that Hawley effectively told

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Speaker 2: him that he was and we have evidence that he

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Speaker 2: was in meetings where people were petitioning him to help

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Speaker 2: deflect investigations into their fraudulent activity. And again, if they

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Speaker 2: have this stuff, one wonders are they waiting for the opportunity.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we know that Tim wall has stepped down

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Speaker 2: and is not going to run for governor again. Elon

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Speaker 2: Omar is a fabulously wealthy woman who came to the

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Speaker 2: table with nothing and after just a couple of years

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Speaker 2: now has tons of dough. Keith Ellison is the top

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Speaker 2: cop in Minnesota and he's thick of s thieves with

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Speaker 2: these Democrat fraudsters. So one wonders, you know, do they

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Speaker 2: know something? Are they sitting on it? Are they waiting

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Speaker 2: to strike? It's early, folks. I know, again, the news

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Speaker 2: cycle is ice Epstein affordability all the time. But if

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Speaker 2: there's one thing that Donald Trump and this administration understand,

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Speaker 2: it's the news cycle. And it's a long road to November.

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Speaker 2: So I posited this a couple of weeks ago. Could

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Speaker 2: it be that they're waiting making sure all their ducks

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Speaker 2: are in a row? And just a maybe midyear reminder

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Speaker 2: of just how corrupt democrats can be. Maybe eight five

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Speaker 2: five stigalls the telephone number if you want to get

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Speaker 2: in here on open Line Friday. Bottom line, Fascism is

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Speaker 2: centralized economic control. It is coercive state authority. Fascism is

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Speaker 2: not the repeal of rules. Fascism is what you know,

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Speaker 2: somebody just said an X during the break. I was

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Speaker 2: looking at it. They said, well, you know, fascism is

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Speaker 2: what we're seeing in the streets in Minneapolis while ICE

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Speaker 2: was trying to clean up. That's exactly right. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you had citizens up there trying to stop other citizens

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Speaker 2: from peacefully walking down the street without showing their papers. Now, folks,

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Speaker 2: that's authoritarian as at kids. So the debate we're going

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Speaker 2: to have as a country is going to reflect the

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Speaker 2: two views of power. That's what's really going to be

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Speaker 2: on the ballot this fall. Ultimately, do we see Washington

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Speaker 2: as an architect or do we see Washington as a referee?

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Speaker 2: Because guys like Obama and the American left think Washington

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Speaker 2: is an architect. That's their instinct. Donald Trump sees it

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Speaker 2: as a referee. So voters can choose which philosophy they prefer.

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Speaker 2: As always, but we should all be very very clear

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Speaker 2: on what fascism means. And when you hear that term

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Speaker 2: fascism or authoritarian or whatever, throw that right back in

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Speaker 2: any leftist space and remind them what it is. Shrinking

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Speaker 2: government is not fascism. Deregulating is not fascism. Demanding everyone

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Speaker 2: wear a mask or show their papers, or take that shot,

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Speaker 2: or attend this school or use this light bulb or

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Speaker 2: pay these taxes, that's authoritarian stuff. And that ain't Donald Trump.

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Speaker 2: Whatever you want to say about Donald Trump, that ain't him.

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Speaker 2: He's the opposite. Okay, eight five five Stagall is the

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Speaker 2: telephone number if you want to get in here on

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Speaker 2: open line Friday. I will take some more of your

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Speaker 2: calls coming up here. A little bit from Keith Ellison

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Speaker 2: yesterday quickly. It was good. We could go in any direction.

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Speaker 2: I liked this one from Bernie Marino, the Ohio Senator,

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Speaker 2: questioning him on what the definition of illegal entry into

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Speaker 2: one's country or home is. Number sixty four. This was hilarious.

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Speaker 1: If you enter the country illegally or you overstay a visa,

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Speaker 1: should you be deported?

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Speaker 7: My simple answer is, sir, it depends.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So somebody breaks into your home, should they be

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Speaker 1: arrested for breaking entering?

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Speaker 7: Or does it depend? It's an entirely different scenario. How

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Speaker 7: is that because immigration is essentially civil and breaking into

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Speaker 7: my home is a criminal matter?

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, gotcha.

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Speaker 1: So if so, there's laws that should be enforced. So

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Speaker 1: we shouldn't enforce civil violations.

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Speaker 7: We absolutely should enforce them under but you just said.

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Speaker 2: That it's a civil matter, so it's different. So good,

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Speaker 2: you got it. I mean that's the flavor of it.

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Speaker 2: I'll play it again a little later. And it's just

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Speaker 2: that's the chief law enforcement officer in Minnesota. I think

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Speaker 2: they are. You'll have to check that at Pima County,

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Speaker 2: Pema County, Arizona, where this Nancy Guthrie thing has unfolded.

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Speaker 2: Pema County's Democrat, I'm pretty sure, isn't it. I know

859
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Speaker 2: we call Arizona purple, but I would bet you that

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Speaker 2: Pema County is probably governed by Democrats, probably went to

861
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Speaker 2: Cackle Bridges in the last election. I think it was

862
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Speaker 2: down there by the border Tucson, and it's populated. I

863
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Speaker 2: feel like Pema County is governed by Democrats. And the

864
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Speaker 2: reason I bring it up is there's news now that

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Speaker 2: the FBI cash Pattel and his crew that have gone

866
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Speaker 2: in there to try to help, and President Trump has

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Speaker 2: offered his help. The Pema County guys apparently are fighting

868
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Speaker 2: with Patel's guys and they're like, we've got this, we

869
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Speaker 2: don't need your help. Which I guess it's not uncommon

870
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Speaker 2: for these law enforcement agencies to battle one another. But

871
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Speaker 2: I have a funny feeling. I just have a funny

872
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Speaker 2: feeling there's politics involved there. Ed you know anything you

873
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Speaker 2: see anything? My memory? My memory correct or no, I

874
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Speaker 2: might be wrong.

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Speaker 15: None.

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Speaker 3: It's actually trending toward Republican So this is from October

877
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Speaker 3: of twenty twenty five. Republicans expand voter registration edge in Arizona.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's Pema check out that sheriff. Would you have

879
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Speaker 2: the Pima County sheriff. I bet he's a Democrat. I

880
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Speaker 2: can't prove it. I don't know. I just have a

881
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Speaker 2: funny feeling because now they it turns out he sent

882
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Speaker 2: a glove that they found off to some private lab

883
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Speaker 2: instead of Taquantico. And it just sounds to me like

884
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Speaker 2: either this sheriff is just a hot shot who likes

885
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Speaker 2: to do it his way, or he's a Democrat who

886
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:33,839
Speaker 2: hates Trump and has Trump derangement syndrome and doesn't want

887
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Speaker 2: to do anything with cash matel in that FBI, My

888
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Speaker 2: hunch is the latter. I can't prove it. I don't know.

889
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Speaker 2: There was a fascinating piece at our sister publication, town

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Speaker 2: hall dot com recently we came across authored by Christopher Wilson,

891
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Speaker 2: headlined Gallup admitted what voters already know. Gallup admitted what

892
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Speaker 2: voters already know If you missed this Gallup, which has

893
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Speaker 2: tracked presidential approval for a long, long time decades, they

894
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Speaker 2: finally announced We're just done doing that. We're not going

895
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Speaker 2: to track presidential approval anymore. There was an extensive piece

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Speaker 2: as to why that is and what we now know

897
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Speaker 2: about polling. That Gallup frankly just can't keep up. It

898
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Speaker 2: appears institutionally not really sure, but Christopher Wilson does, which

899
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Speaker 2: is why we brought him in to give us his analysis.

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Speaker 2: He is the CEO of a company called Eyes Over

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Speaker 2: and joins us this morning, mister Wilson, pleasure to meet

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Speaker 2: you here. Good morning, Good morning Chris.

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Speaker 11: Thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 2: Let's start with eyes Over. Can you tell the folks

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Speaker 2: about it? What you do?

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Speaker 11: I did so eyes.

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Speaker 4: Over is it is a we analyze online conversations for

908
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Speaker 4: the purposes of extrap waiting opinion. And that's why I

909
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Speaker 4: wrote about the Gallop the Gallup story, because Gallup is

910
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Speaker 4: more than it's more of the business decision. It reflects

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Speaker 4: I think how polling frameworks have changed, and that's why

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Speaker 4: I had the opportunity to join eyes Over about a

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Speaker 4: year ago.

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Speaker 11: A CEO years in.

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Speaker 4: Traditional polling, and I saw the challenges that were facing

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Speaker 4: the polling industry. Also had the opportunity to see what

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Speaker 4: I's over it done. When I was offered in this position,

918
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Speaker 4: I jumped at it so again, just to take the

919
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Speaker 4: analysis of what happened with Gallup. When they go out

920
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Speaker 4: and they ask people whether not someone approves or disapproves

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Speaker 4: of Donald Trump, it's a binary choice. Whereas we analyze millions,

922
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Speaker 4: in some cases tens and hundreds of millions of online conversations,

923
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Speaker 4: we use large language models and normal language processing to

924
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Speaker 4: understand what is being said in those conversations, and we

925
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Speaker 4: then project whether or not the American public is approving

926
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Speaker 4: or disapproving of Donald Trump. So it's a far more

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Speaker 4: accurate way of measuring public opinion, and I believe it's

928
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Speaker 4: the future of measuring public opinion. And that's why I

929
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Speaker 4: wrote about what Gallup said.

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Speaker 2: We're often accused of being in our own bubbles as

931
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Speaker 2: conservatives or leftists, and I think that's fair. I'll be honest.

932
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Speaker 2: I don't spend a lot of time outside of my

933
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Speaker 2: job reading what the left rights or what they say online.

934
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Speaker 2: I think I consume more of it than most because

935
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Speaker 2: that's my job. But you know, in my free time,

936
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Speaker 2: I don't want anything to do with it. I just

937
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Speaker 2: ignore it. And so I readily confess that I have

938
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Speaker 2: confirmation bias often in some things that I will consume

939
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Speaker 2: in my free time. Culturally, is that where we are

940
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Speaker 2: people that are on X all day long. Their feed

941
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Speaker 2: is curated with things that affirm what they think. And

942
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Speaker 2: does that give us a skewed point of view? Well?

943
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Speaker 11: It does, But understand, we're not just analyzing your.

944
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Speaker 4: Feed or my feed, or even Donald Trump's feed. Where

945
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Speaker 4: it may be a specific point of view that exists

946
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Speaker 4: for you individually, because you've curated that. What we are

947
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Speaker 4: doing is we're analyzing millions of real expressions online, how

948
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Speaker 4: people feel, how strongly they feel about it, where their

949
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Speaker 4: attention is going, how fast that narrative is changing.

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Speaker 11: We kind of see that a little bit in the

951
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Speaker 11: back and forth in our timeline.

952
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Speaker 4: We may post something someone agrees, someone disagrees, and for

953
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Speaker 4: strategists and media listeners alike, this is real time intelligence,

954
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Speaker 4: and it's far more dynamic and far more immediate than

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Speaker 4: a monthly approval rating. And I'll give you an example

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Speaker 4: on something that happened because we do reports on a

957
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Speaker 4: regular basis for several elected officials. And about a year ago,

958
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Speaker 4: right after I first joined the company, and there was

959
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Speaker 4: someone we were doing work for and he had a

960
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Speaker 4: seven point drop in his cinema analysis is approval. I'll

961
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Speaker 4: refer to it as approval radio. It's kind of the

962
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Speaker 4: same thing. And someone his team reached out and said, well,

963
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Speaker 4: why did this happen? And so I took all of

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Speaker 4: his conversations. We have a large live language model built

965
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Speaker 4: into the platform.

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Speaker 11: And we analyzed it.

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Speaker 4: We're able to say it it was because of X

968
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Speaker 4: and his comms guy said, oh, that's easy, was to

969
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Speaker 4: stop saying X, And sure enough he stopped saying it,

970
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Speaker 4: and the cinema recovered in about twenty four hours, a

971
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Speaker 4: little bit more of that thirty six hours, and it

972
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Speaker 4: never got picked up in the polling.

973
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Speaker 2: This is a fascinating development. And Christopher Wilson with us again.

974
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Speaker 2: He's the CEO of a company called eyes Over, analyzing

975
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Speaker 2: conversation in real time and gathering information kind of a

976
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Speaker 2: public opinion snapshot in real time what people are doing

977
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Speaker 2: online and what the approval disapproval, like dislike. But are

978
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Speaker 2: you also seeing then in this data And that's so

979
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Speaker 2: fascinating that the public perception of whatever the issue or

980
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Speaker 2: person is can turn on a dime, like we suspect

981
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Speaker 2: has always been true, but we've never been able to

982
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Speaker 2: measure before.

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Speaker 16: Yes, yes, that's exactly right, and in fact it's why

984
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Speaker 16: a lot of times my old industry pulling, we would

985
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Speaker 16: see that a race was over before we had the

986
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Speaker 16: opportunity to get the survey questionnaire fielded.

987
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Speaker 4: And what we see is voters are not detached respondents

988
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:48,240
Speaker 4: in a survey. That's kind of what Gallup was picking

989
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Speaker 4: up on. They're active participants now in the public discourse.

990
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Speaker 4: I mean, think about how many people there are just

991
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Speaker 4: at Salem that are communicating to the American public on

992
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Speaker 4: a regular basis, and then move on to all the

993
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Speaker 4: other media platforms exists, and you can see all of

994
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Speaker 4: those are having impact, and so opinions are shaped in

995
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Speaker 4: real time by narrative forces. You're a narrative force, and

996
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Speaker 4: you can think of all Michelle Defoy as an errative force,

997
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:14,440
Speaker 4: and where Trump's a narrative force. All you have all

998
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Speaker 4: these narrative forces that are shaping real time opinion. So

999
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 4: because of that, a static poll is really old before

1000
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Speaker 4: it's even published, and so that shift is really not methodological,

1001
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 4: and that's why Gallup couldn't fix it. It's cultural, it's political,

1002
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Speaker 4: and it's driven by the new media landscape that you're

1003
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Speaker 4: a major part of, and I think there are you

1004
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Speaker 4: can point to several other people that are major parts

1005
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Speaker 4: of that. You're picking up exactly on that.

1006
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Speaker 2: Christopher Wilson again, CEO of a company called eyes Over,

1007
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Speaker 2: analyzing real time data points on places like social media

1008
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Speaker 2: and the conversation. And here's where this gets interesting and

1009
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Speaker 2: divisive and sometimes slippery in my view, The thing that

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Speaker 2: I have always prided this show on is you may

1011
00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 2: not like what I say, but you know who I am,

1012
00:57:58,120 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 2: and I come from an honest place. You know whom

1013
00:57:59,880 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 2: I sponsors are. You know what drives my opinion. I

1014
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Speaker 2: try to come back and own it if I'm wrong.

1015
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Speaker 2: In today's twenty twenty six social media era, influencers podcasters,

1016
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Speaker 2: there are so many people in the space influencing opinion,

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Speaker 2: and you don't really know what drives it. There's a

1018
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Speaker 2: lot of money in driving opinion now that there didn't

1019
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 2: used to be. That doesn't have to be transparent, and

1020
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Speaker 2: I know that's not particularly why you're here, but I

1021
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Speaker 2: am mindful that it seems opinion is now being shaped

1022
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Speaker 2: by subversive actors that aren't necessarily always transparent about where

1023
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Speaker 2: their funding comes from.

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Speaker 11: No, that's exactly right, and I think so there's certain

1025
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Speaker 11: things that fit into that.

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Speaker 4: And I don't want to go all act at any

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Speaker 4: cure on your listeners and put them to sleep here

1028
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Speaker 4: first in the morning, but I'll go through a few

1029
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Speaker 4: of them.

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Speaker 11: I think, first of all, there's narrative framing.

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Speaker 4: People rarely form opinion from facts, and that's what makes

1032
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Speaker 4: what you just said so important they formed them more

1033
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Speaker 4: from stories who's the villain, who's the victim, who's the protector,

1034
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Speaker 4: who's the threat, And that frame shaped shapes sorry interpretation

1035
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Speaker 4: before policy details even matter. So when a story, let's

1036
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Speaker 4: just take something sort of amorphos like inflation becomes a

1037
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Speaker 4: story about eliting competence, which we're seeing now, that is

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Speaker 4: a narrative shift. When immigration moves from policy debate to

1039
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Speaker 4: public safety crisis, which the clips you're sharing in earlier

1040
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Speaker 4: with Keith Ellison, that is narrative reframing, and we measure

1041
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Speaker 4: at eyes over how those frames move across digital networks.

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Speaker 4: So that's whereber one to be narrative. From numer two,

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Speaker 4: I would say be emotional activation, three issues at issue salients,

1044
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Speaker 4: and four would be social identity and group cues. And

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Speaker 4: then finally, most importantly would be momentum. And I can

1046
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Speaker 4: talk about each one of those, but think about momentum

1047
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Speaker 4: for a second. I'll end we here with the last one.

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Speaker 4: Opinion moves a lot like the stock market. It builds,

1049
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Speaker 4: a cascades, it accelerates. So momentum is about direction and speed,

1050
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Speaker 4: not just position, not just statement, not just what you

1051
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Speaker 4: may be saying or what somebody who's funded by guitar

1052
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Speaker 4: hypothetically may be saying, so let's take it this and

1053
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Speaker 4: put it into a political campaign. Two candidates can both

1054
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Speaker 4: be of forty five percent approval and we pull back

1055
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Speaker 4: in the galloping well. One is rising and one is deteriorating.

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Speaker 4: And that difference and this is where I come in

1057
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Speaker 4: in terms of what I do on a regular basis,

1058
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Speaker 4: because I try and help people win elections and win

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Speaker 4: battles in public opinion. That difference to terms of the strategy.

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Speaker 4: And so that's why I moved from pulling into eyes over,

1061
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Speaker 4: because poles capture position, whereas we want to measure velocity momentum.

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Speaker 2: If you have time, mister Wilson, could I hold you

1063
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Speaker 2: over and ask you about a couple of specific issues.

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Speaker 6: Do you mind be happy to sure?

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Speaker 2: Thank you, I appreciate your patience, Chris Wilson, Eyes Over.

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Speaker 2: I want to specifically ask about things like ice, immigration, affordability,

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Speaker 2: and where we're headed this year next. Good to be

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Speaker 2: with you here today in the Relief Factor Studios. Looking

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Speaker 2: at you, Dallas, Texas on the Salem News Channel. Beautiful

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Speaker 2: looking shot as the sun comes up. Thanks for listening

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Speaker 2: on AM six sixty the Answer, and hundreds of our

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Speaker 2: I hope you'll subscribe to that Christigall dot com for

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Speaker 2: all of it. Brilliant piece. We're learning a lot in

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Speaker 2: real time. Old school polling is just that old school.

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Speaker 2: It's dead. There's a new way of measuring how people

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Speaker 2: feel about things. It's real time and it's constant, and

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Speaker 2: that's what the company Eyes Over does. Chris Wilson is

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Speaker 2: their CEO, and he's written a piece at town Hall

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Speaker 2: called Gallup admitted what voters already know. And we've been

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Speaker 2: learning a little bit about how the modern era of

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Speaker 2: polling and measuring sentiment amongst voters' works. And so what

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Speaker 2: I wanted to ask you, Chris was this, and thanks

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Speaker 2: for sticking around. I posted today on X this do.

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Speaker 2: The Democrats have found three issues that they're going to

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Speaker 2: ride like Seabiscuit to November, and they are in no

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Speaker 2: particular order. Ice, affordability, and Epstein. I've boiled it down

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Speaker 2: to those three Ice and Epstein. Those are the three

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Speaker 2: hits they think they'll play. You've watched it in real time?

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Speaker 2: Is that a smart play? And what do Republicans and

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Speaker 2: President Trump do to counter it? If so?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, first of all, let me just to recap

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Speaker 4: a little bit. What we're measuring at isover is not polling.

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Speaker 4: We're not calling a thousand voters and asking what they

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Speaker 4: approve or disapprove of R analyzing millions of real time

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Speaker 4: conversations across all digital platforms to understand narrative flow.

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Speaker 11: Remember that, so first cinema exactly.

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Speaker 4: So emotional intensity issues, salience soon ICE is over the

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Speaker 4: last several weeks, and we do a.

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Speaker 11: Free weekly report on Wednesday.

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Speaker 4: All your listeners, I would say, go to our website

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Speaker 4: and sign up for But the immigration.

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Speaker 11: Has split into two distinct emotional universes.

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Speaker 4: You have based Republicans they care about sovereignty, while of order,

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Speaker 4: restoration of order. And then you have and I'm not

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Speaker 4: even to mention Democrats because they're not going to vote

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Speaker 4: for Republicans in the in fall. So let's talk about

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Speaker 4: those that are going to decide the elections. Immigrant independence

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Speaker 4: and moderate universes, and they care about something different fairness, proportionality, discomfort,

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Speaker 4: and perceived excess. So the key here is not really

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Speaker 4: support or opposition, it is its intensity distribution. So ICE

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Speaker 4: enforcement narratives generate extremely high intensity on both sides, and

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Speaker 4: that means strong engagement, high share velocity, rapid cascade across networks.

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Speaker 11: You probably see this.

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Speaker 4: When you post that, I mean this is what you

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Speaker 4: see occur in our own timeline. So here's the strategic

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Speaker 4: signal that I would say to anyone's running for office.

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Speaker 4: Listens among persuadable and soft Republican clusters, we are seeing volatility,

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Speaker 4: not a shift of volatility, and that's where elections move.

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Speaker 11: And it really is a key point that you're making.

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Speaker 4: So enforcement is framed as restoring order, it consolidates if

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Speaker 4: it's framed as heavy handed or chaotic. And think about

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Speaker 4: the images we see coming off of I'll randomly choose

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Speaker 4: two networks CNN in the CVC and just randomly in

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Speaker 4: my mind. But when it's heavy handed or chaotic, it

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Speaker 4: erodse and that narrative framing decides determines which direction wins.

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Speaker 11: So let me shifting there into affordability.

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Speaker 4: So what we are seeing in are weekly tracking there,

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Speaker 4: and we actually have created an index.

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Speaker 11: Is affordability is a stabilizing driver.

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Speaker 4: And Art Laugher posted something maybe said, I can't remember

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Speaker 4: one or the other not too long ago, is that

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Speaker 4: the economy approves months before others, whether the public starts

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Speaker 4: to feel it. So inflation, not just inflation as a statistic,

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Speaker 4: but we see everyday cost pressures.

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Speaker 11: Pushed bubbling up.

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Speaker 4: People are saying grocery's too high, red can't afford insurance

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Speaker 4: costs are killing me, my heat and my oil costs

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Speaker 4: are way too.

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Speaker 11: Much, my credit card debt. So we are measuring for

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Speaker 11: those conversations. That's what it'salked about. The normal language processings, and.

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Speaker 4: Affordability consistently dominates issue salans outside of those immigration events,

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Speaker 4: and that matters because when affordability is dominant, voters prioritize

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Speaker 4: competence and economic relief. And that's what the language coming

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Speaker 4: out of the administration is so important in these matters.

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Speaker 4: So when immigration spikes without economic frame and you can

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Speaker 4: feel disconnected from that daily stress, and I would suggest

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Speaker 4: that the election right now is cost sensitive first, an

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Speaker 4: ideological second. This is what I say to my clients

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Speaker 4: all the time. You know, they're like, well it got

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Speaker 4: to be a conservative. Yes you're a conservative, but you

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Speaker 4: got to care about what they are first. I want

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Speaker 4: us to go all Bill Clinton on you feel your pain,

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Speaker 4: but it does matter in this in this and it's

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Speaker 4: a structural environment.

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Speaker 11: And so where this is heading for twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to fill the bus to your show,

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Speaker 4: but the directional call that I would constantly make is

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Speaker 4: we're entering a narrative compression cycle and we'll see this

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Speaker 4: manifest itself in the primary elections they're coming up. We

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Speaker 4: got economic fatigue, we've got immigration intensity, and we have

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Speaker 4: institutional distrust. And that's how I pull in the Epstein

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Speaker 4: aspect that we just talked about, is that institutional trust

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Speaker 4: and the party that frames I'm going to tie this

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Speaker 4: back into a key issue here. Immigration through economic competence

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Speaker 4: is going to be the one that wins. And yes,

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Speaker 4: Epstein plays into that, but that's going to go That

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Speaker 4: will dissipate by the time we get to the general election.

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Speaker 4: The Democrats don't want it to they're gonna keep talking

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Speaker 4: about it, but it will. It just kind of pops

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Speaker 4: as little things happening here and there. So the party

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Speaker 4: that allows immigration to become a moral spectacle is going

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Speaker 4: to risk erosion amongst independents. And that's why you've seen

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Speaker 4: some of these special elections that have occurred around the

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Speaker 4: time we've had the visuals coming out in Minnesota have

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Speaker 4: favorite Democrats because that spectacle, that moral spectacle, if you will,

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Speaker 4: is what's driving that. So this isn't a policy prediction. Prediction,

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Speaker 4: Let'll be clear on that. I stay as far away

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Speaker 4: from that as possible.

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Speaker 11: But it's a narrative of men forecast.

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Speaker 4: And if affordability remains elevated and immigration enforcement becomes emotionally overheated,

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Speaker 4: independents are going to move toward economic stability candidates. So,

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Speaker 4: but if immigration is framed as protecting economic opportunity, then

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Speaker 4: Republicans maintain a structural advantage. And I do believe that

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Speaker 4: Trump's instinct is going in that direction.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems with Holman that's exactly what he's doing. Chris,

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Speaker 2: very quickly, just ten seconds. Can you tell me where

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Speaker 2: can people find you?

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Speaker 4: Iesover dot us or at Chris Wilson qed.

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Speaker 2: On as iesover dot us. We'll have you back. This

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Speaker 2: is fascinating stuff. Have a great weekend. Chris Wilson, it's over.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't be happier about the development yesterday from President Trump.

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Speaker 2: The deregulation that we saw yesterday maybe some of the

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Speaker 2: most significant deregulation we'll see out of this presidency, and

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Speaker 2: he's done quite a bit of it. Daniel Turner I

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Speaker 2: talk about its significance to the energy industry, which is

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Speaker 2: what you watch every day.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean this is going to be monumental and

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Speaker 6: in terms of its scope, it will take a little

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Speaker 6: while for it to be felt. But what the Endangerment

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Speaker 6: Finding did, and we have to go back in time

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Speaker 6: to two thousand and nine when it was implemented, it determined,

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Speaker 6: you know what, we think this is bad and therefore

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Speaker 6: we now have the authority to regulate it. And you

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Speaker 6: I think that's a good thing. But then why can't

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Speaker 6: government do that with any aspect of your life? Right?

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Speaker 6: Why can't government say that we think your sweaters are bad,

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Speaker 6: we think you know, we think cotton is bad, So

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Speaker 6: we're going to regulate that. We think walking down the

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Speaker 6: then say and therefore, now we get to control that

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Speaker 6: in a democracy. Congress can give itself this authority. But

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Speaker 6: you know, we have a rule in Congress that we

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Speaker 6: they have to you know, there's an open process. Obama

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Speaker 6: And so it's a really simple thing to say. If

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Speaker 6: you're worried about greenhouse gases, have Congress pass a law

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Speaker 6: Define it? They don't want to define it, but they

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Speaker 6: is a pollution. Now it's carbon dioxide. It used to

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Speaker 6: be methane. Now it's methane too. But you know, now

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Speaker 6: it's also going to be anything else we decide And

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Speaker 6: how much pollution there, Chris, how many parts per million?

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Speaker 6: You know what, we don't know what we're going to

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Speaker 6: regulate it. We're going to dick that, I argue. So

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Speaker 6: that's what we're doing, is we're giving power back to

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Speaker 6: the people through a legislative process, not bureaucracy.

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Speaker 2: Daniel, isn't this all predicated on mostly that I methane,

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Speaker 2: carbon dioxide, these kind of natural occurring things. You know,

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Speaker 2: photosynthesis requires carbon dioxide. It's a nutrient for plants to survive.

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Speaker 2: The perversity of this movement turned it into something they

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Speaker 2: called a pollutant. I could never get my mind wrapped

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Speaker 2: around it becoming remotely acceptable to thinking people that what

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Speaker 2: we exhale as a pollutant.

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Speaker 6: Oh, exactly, and if you want to determine it as

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Speaker 6: a pollutant, pass along, call it that, right, and you

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Speaker 6: have that ability as a congressman. I've been retweeting congressman

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Speaker 6: for the last couple of days, Adam Schiff, Chuck Schumer,

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Speaker 6: all of them clutching their pearls, saying we're not going

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Speaker 6: to be safe. Well, you know what, It is so

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Speaker 6: easy for you as a senator to craft a bill

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Speaker 6: right now and say I have determined carbon dioxide as

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Speaker 6: a pollutant and I think the parts per million should

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Speaker 6: be x number, and then make a law. And now

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Speaker 6: the EPA is forced to do that, and that's the

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Speaker 6: way the system should work. But of course they know

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Speaker 6: they don't have that authority, they know they don't want

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Speaker 6: to actually author that legislation, so they try to get

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Speaker 6: it through the evil bureaucracy, right, And that's one of

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Speaker 6: the big difference between the left and the right. The

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Speaker 6: right likes laws. If you break the law, you follow

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Speaker 6: the consequences. The left likes regulation, right. They like arbitrary, nebulous,

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Speaker 6: vague things because there's a lot of weasel room in there,

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Speaker 6: and you can steal money and you can kind of

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Speaker 6: shift things around, and is that person illegal. No, he's

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Speaker 6: not an illegal. He's a dreamer. It's like, what the

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Speaker 6: hell is a dreamer? It's someone we just invented to right.

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Speaker 6: We like laws, the left likes regulation, and they use

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Speaker 6: the government, the bureaucracy to get all of this stuff

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Speaker 6: they want done without having to actually pass the law

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Speaker 6: and face the scrutiny of the American people. This is

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Speaker 6: a great, great, great day. You can tell by my enthusiasm,

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Speaker 6: the exciting stuff.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't agree more. Daniel Turner, Founder, executive director of

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Speaker 2: Power of the Future at Daniel Turner PTF on X.

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Speaker 2: The question I know that comes across many people's minds

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Speaker 2: is all right, well, if Obama did it be executive order,

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Speaker 2: now Trump is undoing it, can it be reinstalled again?

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's just just a ping pong of executive authority.

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Speaker 6: It could be. There's no doubt because what we what

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Speaker 6: we did yesterday, what Administrator Zelden did, is he didn't

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Speaker 6: really do he undid he undid something that never should

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Speaker 6: have happened to begin with. Can the next guy who wins,

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Speaker 6: If Gavin Newsom wins and he puts in Luney mclooney

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Speaker 6: face as EPA administrator, they can what we need now

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Speaker 6: our interest, We need this on so many different levels.

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Speaker 6: Goodness gracious, let's start with the Save Act. What we

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Speaker 6: need now is our Republican majorities to do their damn

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Speaker 6: job and codify these things in law. Right. What we

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01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:57,400
Speaker 6: need is, we need we need legislative fixes so that

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Speaker 6: when the next lunatic does get in the White House,

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Speaker 6: and it's going to happen, right, it may not happen

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Speaker 6: in twenty twenty eight, but eventually they're going to be

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Speaker 6: back control, in control, and that they don't have these

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Speaker 6: these systems in place to exert influence and force and

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Speaker 6: authority over us. So that's what we need our legislators

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Speaker 6: to do now.

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Speaker 2: More than ever, how do you think I mean, I

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Speaker 2: just read two different stories today. Detroit automakers take a

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Speaker 2: fifty billion dollar hit as the EV bubble bursts. Ford

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01:15:29,720 --> 01:15:33,839
Speaker 2: alone is going to lose something like ten billion dollars

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Speaker 2: over the next two years because of their investments in EV,

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01:15:36,720 --> 01:15:41,120
Speaker 2: and their CEO admitted without subsidizing, people don't want them.

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Speaker 2: So the government continues to try to endorse this stuff

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Speaker 2: that the American public doesn't want So will the market react,

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01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:52,240
Speaker 2: will private business act or are they fearful that, as

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Speaker 2: you just said, there'll be another guy a Gavin Newsom

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Speaker 2: god forbid and whips all back. I mean, I don't

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Speaker 2: know how private sector reacts to this really exactly.

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Speaker 6: And that's why things have been overall expensive and stagnant

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Speaker 6: in our economy because if you have something like the

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Speaker 6: engagement finding and you run a business, you have no

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Speaker 6: idea what the new rules are going to be because

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Speaker 6: they're not set in the law. Right, If I run

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Speaker 6: a coal plant and I know I have to comply

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Speaker 6: with X rule, I do everything necessary to comply with

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Speaker 6: X rule. And that's new technologies and it's innovation, and

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Speaker 6: it's smarter people than I am who come up with

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Speaker 6: new systems too, because this is the benchmark, right, this

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Speaker 6: is the rule I have it before me. With the regulation,

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Speaker 6: I don't know what the hell it's going to be.

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Speaker 6: I just get a letter from from the Obama administration

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Speaker 6: or the Biden administration and say, guess what the new

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Speaker 6: rules have now changed. You don't meet them, so you're

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Speaker 6: out of business. So absolutely, the ping pong thing is

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01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:48,040
Speaker 6: something to be worried about, but it's troubling where we

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Speaker 6: have been with this nebulous regulatory state. When you go

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Speaker 6: back to the automakers, this is tragic, right, And this

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Speaker 6: is one of the things that is your heart breaks

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Speaker 6: for whether it's an EV plant or a solar or

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Speaker 6: wind plant. Right when government starts subsidizing all of these

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Speaker 6: factories and they create fake factory jobs with government tax dollars,

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Speaker 6: now those people are going to suffer, and there are

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Speaker 6: fellow Americans, and that's heartbreaking. But we can continue to

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Speaker 6: subsidize failed industries and no one wants these evs and

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Speaker 6: to say, well look at this, Donald Trump is firing

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Speaker 6: thousands of factory workers in Detroit. You know what, Joe

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Speaker 6: Biden shouldn't have hired them to begin with. And that's

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Speaker 6: the sad thing about when government starts picking winners and losers,

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Speaker 6: we all all all lose in the end. And so

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Speaker 6: if those guys are sad and those plant workers are

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Speaker 6: now frustrated and they're trying to fix figure out how

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Speaker 6: to pay their mortgage, you point your fingers at Barack

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Speaker 6: Obama and Joe Biden because if they were those who

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Speaker 6: created this BS industry, subsidizing it with hundreds of billions

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Speaker 6: of tax dollars incentivizing people to buy this crappy product

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Speaker 6: with a seventy five hundred dollars tax rebate. They this

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Speaker 6: pickle and it's pulling off the bandaid is hard, but

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Speaker 6: it's got to be done.

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Speaker 2: Do you think the public With about thirty seconds to go, Daniel,

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Speaker 2: do you think the public the worm has turned? Polling

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Speaker 2: always seems to suggest that people have never really been

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Speaker 2: with this climate agenda to begin with. They certainly aren't

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Speaker 2: now as a priority. It's next to nothing in terms

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Speaker 2: of being measured. But do people buy that carbon dioxide's

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Speaker 2: a pollutant? I mean, you know, I hope not, But

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Speaker 2: do they? I don't know. Where's the public?

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Speaker 6: No, not, not at all? And climate change never polls. Well,

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Speaker 6: just go back to twenty twenty four. Kamala Harris didn't

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Speaker 6: even talk about it during the campaign right less gubernatorial races.

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Speaker 6: None of the big Democrats who one talked about climate change.

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Speaker 6: Right They never talk about it on the campaign trail.

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Speaker 6: But when they get power, they use it as a

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Speaker 6: reason to control your life, just like they did to

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Speaker 6: the endangerment finding.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's just this is so big yesterday,

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Speaker 2: this endangerment finding it's been repealed and courtesy of the

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Speaker 2: Trump administration. Again, that's not authority tarianism. That's deregulating. Authoritarians

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Speaker 2: like to consolidate power. That's Obama, that's Biden. That's Kamala Harris.

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Speaker 2: Daniel Turner our great friend at Daniel Turner PTF on X.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, my friend. Have a great weekend for a

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Speaker 2: moment icy looking Minnesota this morning, Minneapolis, Minnesota on a

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Speaker 2: M twelve eighty the Patriot Boy. Isn't that beautiful looking?

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Speaker 2: You know what, I've never done ice fish. I've never

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Speaker 2: ice fished in my life. I don't know if you

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Speaker 2: can get out there and ice fish on that stuff,

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Speaker 2: if it's cold enough. I've got some friends up in Wisconsin.

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Speaker 2: That's what they do. They go out on that. I

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Speaker 2: mean it is, you know, inches and inches and inches

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Speaker 2: thick of ice. They'll go out there and they'll pitch

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Speaker 2: one of those things and turn on a heater and

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Speaker 2: cut some kind of hole in the ice and they'll

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Speaker 2: sit there and they'll fish in one of those shanties.

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Speaker 2: I've always thought that looked interesting. One of these days

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Speaker 2: I'll do it. Bucket list stuff. We're watching the Salem

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Speaker 2: News channel one of our cameras stationed there over the

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Speaker 2: Good morning, welcome in.

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Speaker 15: Hey, what's up, Chris, Good morning.

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Speaker 2: And to you, sir, thank you.

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Speaker 15: I have heard that since this Epstein files dropped recently

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Speaker 15: that the cancer cheers have started coming about, where people

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Speaker 15: are saying that, you know, hey, there's cancer fears all overplaced,

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Speaker 15: pancreatic cancer, colon cancer. Supposedly it had something to do

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Speaker 15: where they're distracting.

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Speaker 11: I guess Trump.

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Speaker 15: Pulled out of the WHO, so I don't know how

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Speaker 15: they're correlating that. I was wondering what your takeway is on.

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Speaker 2: A gosh, I don't know that I've heard that. So

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Speaker 2: the suggestion is that now that the Epstein files have dropped,

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Speaker 2: there are solutions to cancer.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, I guess they're trying to distract from the heinous

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Speaker 15: crimes by releasing some kind of, you know, cures for cancer.

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Speaker 12: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Who the villain. I'm just to be clear. I don't

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Speaker 2: who who is releasing cures to cancer all.

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Speaker 15: Over Spain, I think France, there's different places all around

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Speaker 15: the world. Since Trump pulled out of who, you know,

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Speaker 15: the World Health Organization. Supposedly they're releasing all these cures

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Speaker 15: because I don't know, trying to distract from something regarding

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Speaker 15: that's interesting.

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Speaker 2: I guess A couple of things come to mind. If true,

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Speaker 2: I guess that's a happy distraction, I guess, or no,

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Speaker 2: or you don't buy it? Is that what you mean?

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Speaker 12: Though?

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Speaker 15: I'm all for it, I just you know what's the

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Speaker 15: trade off?

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Speaker 6: Right?

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Speaker 2: Well? Yeah, how about the Epstein thing? Where are you

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Speaker 2: on it? I don't have a ton of time, but

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Speaker 2: give me your thirty second synopsis? Where are you with it?

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Speaker 12: Epstein?

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Speaker 15: I really the whole thing. I don't buy into it.

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Speaker 15: I just don't understand all the whole They're painting this

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Speaker 15: big picture. Why is the picture being painted?

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Speaker 11: That's where I'm at.

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Speaker 15: If it's happened and there's truth, I think there's truth

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Speaker 15: in everything.

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01:22:22,080 --> 01:22:22,240
Speaker 6: So.

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Speaker 15: You know, we'll just have to find out, you know,

1495
01:22:25,880 --> 01:22:27,160
Speaker 15: how it plays out. I'm not sure.

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01:22:27,400 --> 01:22:30,519
Speaker 2: Are you dis Are you dissatisfied with the President on

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01:22:30,760 --> 01:22:31,360
Speaker 2: handling it?

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01:22:31,800 --> 01:22:32,040
Speaker 6: Am? I?

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01:22:32,600 --> 01:22:34,160
Speaker 12: No, no, no, no, absolutely not.

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01:22:34,200 --> 01:22:37,360
Speaker 15: And I think I think he's I think everything's scripted,

1501
01:22:37,439 --> 01:22:40,160
Speaker 15: you know, when he's talking about here's the storm, calm

1502
01:22:40,200 --> 01:22:41,240
Speaker 15: before the storm and all that.

1503
01:22:41,280 --> 01:22:42,200
Speaker 6: I think he's a genius.

1504
01:22:42,240 --> 01:22:45,280
Speaker 15: Actually, I don't have any ill will towards the truck President.

1505
01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:48,160
Speaker 15: I don't think that he's doing He's doing the best

1506
01:22:48,160 --> 01:22:48,519
Speaker 15: he can.

1507
01:22:49,400 --> 01:22:52,360
Speaker 2: Okay, hey, listen, I'm grateful to hear from you, Scott.

1508
01:22:52,800 --> 01:22:55,799
Speaker 2: I have not heard that news on the cancer cure stuff.

1509
01:22:56,439 --> 01:22:59,519
Speaker 2: I hope that's true. That would be the best distraction ever.

1510
01:22:59,560 --> 01:23:02,000
Speaker 2: If true, I'll look and do it. Thanks for the call.

1511
01:23:02,080 --> 01:23:05,479
Speaker 2: More open line Friday on the way been bragging on

1512
01:23:05,479 --> 01:23:08,240
Speaker 2: this show about how much leaner and meaner we are.

1513
01:23:08,640 --> 01:23:12,200
Speaker 2: In twenty twenty six, you add the executive producer of

1514
01:23:12,240 --> 01:23:15,639
Speaker 2: the show fast Eddie and me and our combined weight loss.

1515
01:23:15,680 --> 01:23:18,799
Speaker 2: Do you now know that we are officially over seventy

1516
01:23:18,880 --> 01:23:23,040
Speaker 2: pounds leaner as a show. Now, Eddie, how's it going

1517
01:23:23,120 --> 01:23:26,840
Speaker 2: so far? You are? You said, thirteen fourteen weeks, I've

1518
01:23:26,880 --> 01:23:28,240
Speaker 2: lost count now into the program.

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01:23:28,360 --> 01:23:32,680
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm in my thirteenth week, I am, And you

1520
01:23:32,720 --> 01:23:33,160
Speaker 3: are down?

1521
01:23:33,400 --> 01:23:33,840
Speaker 2: How far?

1522
01:23:34,320 --> 01:23:37,480
Speaker 3: Thirty one point five pounds?

1523
01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:41,160
Speaker 2: Sir? Thirty one point five and that point five matters?

1524
01:23:41,160 --> 01:23:43,120
Speaker 2: Believe me as a guy who knows thirty one point

1525
01:23:43,120 --> 01:23:45,000
Speaker 2: five in fourteen weeks.

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01:23:45,320 --> 01:23:48,000
Speaker 3: Well, we'll be entering my fourteenth week this weekend.

1527
01:23:49,479 --> 01:23:52,439
Speaker 2: Now again, we set your goal as fifty pounds down

1528
01:23:52,439 --> 01:23:55,360
Speaker 2: by May, so that's your well ahead of schedule. If

1529
01:23:55,600 --> 01:23:57,280
Speaker 2: I'm not great at math, But I think that's right.

1530
01:23:57,360 --> 01:23:59,519
Speaker 3: I think I am. I think I am.

1531
01:24:00,520 --> 01:24:02,479
Speaker 2: And by the way, you took a four day trip

1532
01:24:02,520 --> 01:24:05,439
Speaker 2: to Vegas where you pretty much did what you pleased.

1533
01:24:06,680 --> 01:24:07,080
Speaker 2: I did.

1534
01:24:07,240 --> 01:24:12,160
Speaker 3: I yes, my sleep schedule was not as good as

1535
01:24:12,200 --> 01:24:15,160
Speaker 3: it could be. My meal schedule was not as good

1536
01:24:15,160 --> 01:24:17,120
Speaker 3: as it could be. But I was stress free for

1537
01:24:17,200 --> 01:24:20,280
Speaker 3: four days and I still managed to lose a pound

1538
01:24:20,320 --> 01:24:20,679
Speaker 3: and a half.

1539
01:24:20,800 --> 01:24:24,519
Speaker 2: Chris, Wow, And you also do a lot of walking too,

1540
01:24:24,560 --> 01:24:25,840
Speaker 2: don't you. You call it your fat walk.

1541
01:24:26,439 --> 01:24:28,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do my fat walk every night. Wasn't able

1542
01:24:28,640 --> 01:24:30,640
Speaker 3: to do the fat walk in Vegas, but I did

1543
01:24:30,800 --> 01:24:31,719
Speaker 3: dance quite a lot.

1544
01:24:32,760 --> 01:24:36,599
Speaker 2: So that's the story of fast Eddy's success in fourteen weeks. Now,

1545
01:24:36,640 --> 01:24:39,160
Speaker 2: I told you that last year I lost over forty pounds,

1546
01:24:39,160 --> 01:24:42,639
Speaker 2: just a little like forty two pounds in under four months.

1547
01:24:43,040 --> 01:24:45,040
Speaker 2: That was my story. And the great thing is is

1548
01:24:45,040 --> 01:24:47,559
Speaker 2: now I'm coming up on my one year anniversary of

1549
01:24:47,560 --> 01:24:51,120
Speaker 2: that loss and I haven't gained it back. That is,

1550
01:24:51,520 --> 01:24:55,760
Speaker 2: for me, one of the most remarkable achievements. I will

1551
01:24:55,800 --> 01:24:58,920
Speaker 2: probably dial in to lose some more. But what I

1552
01:24:58,960 --> 01:25:01,320
Speaker 2: wanted to really see was after losing over forty could

1553
01:25:01,360 --> 01:25:04,559
Speaker 2: I maintain it? And the answer is yes, I've been

1554
01:25:04,600 --> 01:25:06,840
Speaker 2: able to maintain it. And the reason why is this

1555
01:25:06,920 --> 01:25:09,639
Speaker 2: Lady's taught us how to do it. Doctor Ashley Lucas,

1556
01:25:09,720 --> 01:25:11,719
Speaker 2: host of her very own show. If you're not familiar

1557
01:25:11,720 --> 01:25:14,160
Speaker 2: with her yet, you should dial it up because she

1558
01:25:14,240 --> 01:25:15,760
Speaker 2: does a show not just on weight loss, but all

1559
01:25:15,840 --> 01:25:19,160
Speaker 2: kinds of matters of health and the Maha era. She's

1560
01:25:19,160 --> 01:25:21,240
Speaker 2: in high cotton, as they say. She is the owner

1561
01:25:21,280 --> 01:25:23,519
Speaker 2: and founder of PhDe Weight Loss, host of the Doctor

1562
01:25:23,560 --> 01:25:28,160
Speaker 2: Ashley Show. Again myphdeweightloss dot com for more information on

1563
01:25:28,200 --> 01:25:29,960
Speaker 2: this program that Eddie and I are on, and if

1564
01:25:29,960 --> 01:25:33,160
Speaker 2: you want it and you mention this show when you call,

1565
01:25:33,840 --> 01:25:35,639
Speaker 2: she's going to throw two weeks at you for free,

1566
01:25:35,880 --> 01:25:38,040
Speaker 2: which is fantastic. Doctor, good to see you again.

1567
01:25:38,080 --> 01:25:40,839
Speaker 11: Good morning, Hi Chris, good morning.

1568
01:25:41,760 --> 01:25:43,200
Speaker 2: How about that success from Eddie?

1569
01:25:44,560 --> 01:25:49,320
Speaker 18: I know, I actually I'm so impressed and I would

1570
01:25:49,360 --> 01:25:53,040
Speaker 18: love to know what his fat walk entails. I right

1571
01:25:53,160 --> 01:25:53,759
Speaker 18: to hear more.

1572
01:25:55,360 --> 01:25:55,920
Speaker 2: What do you do?

1573
01:25:55,960 --> 01:25:56,320
Speaker 6: All right?

1574
01:25:56,439 --> 01:26:00,599
Speaker 3: So do my coach, my PhD coach, Heather awesome coach.

1575
01:26:00,640 --> 01:26:03,720
Speaker 3: She said, you should try to walk every single night

1576
01:26:03,800 --> 01:26:06,840
Speaker 3: after you eat. I said, okay, so that was a goal.

1577
01:26:06,880 --> 01:26:08,360
Speaker 3: It's like, all right, let's try and do this.

1578
01:26:09,200 --> 01:26:10,519
Speaker 2: Why is that important, Ashley?

1579
01:26:12,439 --> 01:26:15,519
Speaker 18: So when you walk after meals, it helps to lower

1580
01:26:15,560 --> 01:26:18,880
Speaker 18: your blood sugar, helps to lower insulin, insulin when it's

1581
01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:23,040
Speaker 18: chronically elevated as a fat storage hormone. So when Eddie

1582
01:26:23,120 --> 01:26:26,000
Speaker 18: goes for his quote unquote fat walk after dinner, he's

1583
01:26:26,040 --> 01:26:30,360
Speaker 18: lowering his blood sugar by probably thirty thirty three percent,

1584
01:26:30,520 --> 01:26:33,080
Speaker 18: which just helps him to get back into that fat

1585
01:26:33,160 --> 01:26:35,040
Speaker 18: burning mode a little bit faster.

1586
01:26:35,360 --> 01:26:36,759
Speaker 6: That's why he's called fast Eddie.

1587
01:26:36,760 --> 01:26:39,640
Speaker 2: Maybe that's right, So Sarin interrupted, I just wanted to

1588
01:26:39,680 --> 01:26:41,760
Speaker 2: clarify why that was important. So you get that walk

1589
01:26:41,800 --> 01:26:43,360
Speaker 2: in and you're burning that bitder right off.

1590
01:26:43,479 --> 01:26:45,960
Speaker 3: Very important, And it used to be I would say, okay,

1591
01:26:46,000 --> 01:26:48,040
Speaker 3: like I probably should go for a walk, I should

1592
01:26:48,080 --> 01:26:50,519
Speaker 3: take the dog for a walk. Now it's intentional. Every

1593
01:26:50,560 --> 01:26:53,479
Speaker 3: single night we finished dinner and it's just like, all right,

1594
01:26:53,600 --> 01:26:56,720
Speaker 3: maybe ten minutes, clean up the dishes, and now I

1595
01:26:57,000 --> 01:27:00,200
Speaker 3: just set out outside, no matter how cold it is,

1596
01:27:00,240 --> 01:27:02,880
Speaker 3: and I just walk until it's time to turn around.

1597
01:27:02,960 --> 01:27:05,760
Speaker 3: So sometimes that's an hour, sometimes it's a half hour,

1598
01:27:05,840 --> 01:27:08,200
Speaker 3: but it's planned time now that I must get in

1599
01:27:08,360 --> 01:27:11,200
Speaker 3: every single night after my meal and it's done, wonders.

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01:27:11,439 --> 01:27:12,400
Speaker 15: That's great, true.

1601
01:27:12,520 --> 01:27:14,120
Speaker 3: I love that half pounds.

1602
01:27:14,280 --> 01:27:17,240
Speaker 2: How cool? Thank you, so, doctor Lucas, here's something I

1603
01:27:17,240 --> 01:27:19,599
Speaker 2: want to ask you about right off the top. Heather

1604
01:27:20,120 --> 01:27:23,000
Speaker 2: are the aforementioned counselor and I have spoken about this

1605
01:27:23,000 --> 01:27:27,559
Speaker 2: once upon a time too, This notion of I guess

1606
01:27:27,560 --> 01:27:30,880
Speaker 2: maybe it's called intermittent fasting. It's become kind of all

1607
01:27:30,920 --> 01:27:33,920
Speaker 2: the age over the years. But I don't know that

1608
01:27:33,960 --> 01:27:36,160
Speaker 2: that's necessarily called that. But Heather has said to me

1609
01:27:36,200 --> 01:27:41,880
Speaker 2: in the past, eating dinner, let's say six o'clock, and

1610
01:27:41,960 --> 01:27:44,960
Speaker 2: because we get a very very early, she said, don't

1611
01:27:44,960 --> 01:27:47,760
Speaker 2: wake up and eat first thing. She said, maybe wait until, like,

1612
01:27:49,000 --> 01:27:50,800
Speaker 2: you know, six o'clock the next morning. You know, I

1613
01:27:50,800 --> 01:27:53,400
Speaker 2: get up at three three thirty. She said, go ahead

1614
01:27:53,400 --> 01:27:56,400
Speaker 2: and wait to eat until six or however your day

1615
01:27:56,400 --> 01:27:59,680
Speaker 2: works out. Why is that important to maybe give that

1616
01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:03,160
Speaker 2: twelve hour fast window. How does that work? Or does

1617
01:28:03,240 --> 01:28:03,639
Speaker 2: that work?

1618
01:28:03,920 --> 01:28:04,840
Speaker 6: That's a great question.

1619
01:28:05,000 --> 01:28:05,759
Speaker 3: It does work.

1620
01:28:06,240 --> 01:28:08,800
Speaker 18: That's our goal is to get twelve hours between your

1621
01:28:08,920 --> 01:28:10,840
Speaker 18: last meal of the day and the first meal of

1622
01:28:10,840 --> 01:28:14,960
Speaker 18: the next day to allow the body again to get

1623
01:28:15,000 --> 01:28:17,720
Speaker 18: into the state of fat burn. So I never look

1624
01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:20,519
Speaker 18: at calories. I have no idea how many calories you're

1625
01:28:20,560 --> 01:28:24,960
Speaker 18: consuming or Eddy's consuming. I'm looking at the metabolism and

1626
01:28:25,040 --> 01:28:28,840
Speaker 18: how when we eat and what we eat impacts our metabolism.

1627
01:28:29,280 --> 01:28:32,360
Speaker 18: Most of us are coming in with the slowed metabolism

1628
01:28:32,400 --> 01:28:34,960
Speaker 18: that needs repair. And so one of the ways that

1629
01:28:35,000 --> 01:28:38,240
Speaker 18: we can do this is walking after meals. It's eating

1630
01:28:38,360 --> 01:28:42,639
Speaker 18: specific types of foods at specific times. When we give

1631
01:28:42,680 --> 01:28:45,519
Speaker 18: the body about a twelve hour window of not eating,

1632
01:28:46,040 --> 01:28:48,760
Speaker 18: the body can get back into fat burn, it can

1633
01:28:48,840 --> 01:28:53,440
Speaker 18: start to repair the body, and the cell start to rejuvenate.

1634
01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:56,360
Speaker 18: It's just a very healthy window to give the body

1635
01:28:56,439 --> 01:28:59,840
Speaker 18: time to be in this fasted state without food. When

1636
01:29:00,280 --> 01:29:02,679
Speaker 18: you are not eating, your hormones are different than when

1637
01:29:02,680 --> 01:29:05,280
Speaker 18: you're in the fed state. And most of us are

1638
01:29:05,280 --> 01:29:08,519
Speaker 18: eating all the time. The window between those last meal

1639
01:29:08,560 --> 01:29:11,599
Speaker 18: and first meal is very short, so we never really

1640
01:29:11,640 --> 01:29:15,000
Speaker 18: get into that fat burning mode. And when we do that,

1641
01:29:15,080 --> 01:29:18,920
Speaker 18: it feels so good. You won't be hungry. The body

1642
01:29:18,960 --> 01:29:21,960
Speaker 18: actually starts to work the way that it's naturally supposed

1643
01:29:22,000 --> 01:29:22,280
Speaker 18: to do.

1644
01:29:22,360 --> 01:29:25,200
Speaker 2: So do you know when I started doing that what

1645
01:29:25,320 --> 01:29:27,719
Speaker 2: I noticed? And I'd heard people talk about this before,

1646
01:29:28,560 --> 01:29:33,000
Speaker 2: mental clarity. People talk about this incredible clarity they have

1647
01:29:33,080 --> 01:29:34,960
Speaker 2: when they fast, and I always thought that sounds kind

1648
01:29:35,000 --> 01:29:38,759
Speaker 2: of weird, But the truth be told, not eating first

1649
01:29:38,760 --> 01:29:41,080
Speaker 2: thing in the morning when I stopped doing that, I

1650
01:29:41,120 --> 01:29:43,840
Speaker 2: eat in the morning, but just later, like after the

1651
01:29:43,840 --> 01:29:45,880
Speaker 2: show or late in the show, is usually when I

1652
01:29:45,960 --> 01:29:48,719
Speaker 2: will take a break and eat little something in between

1653
01:29:48,760 --> 01:29:53,559
Speaker 2: commercial and my mind is sharper. That's a thing.

1654
01:29:53,840 --> 01:29:56,040
Speaker 6: I guess it's a thing.

1655
01:29:56,560 --> 01:29:59,559
Speaker 18: And you should feel in general when you're following the

1656
01:29:59,760 --> 01:30:02,960
Speaker 18: peace HD meal plan that we created for you, that

1657
01:30:03,000 --> 01:30:06,839
Speaker 18: you feel sharper throughout the day, you sleep better, better energy,

1658
01:30:07,320 --> 01:30:10,839
Speaker 18: and the reason why the root of all disease stems

1659
01:30:10,840 --> 01:30:14,120
Speaker 18: from having a lot of inflammation in the body. And

1660
01:30:14,240 --> 01:30:17,280
Speaker 18: when we guide you to eat the specific way with

1661
01:30:17,400 --> 01:30:21,120
Speaker 18: this timing, take breaks in your eating plan. Once you're

1662
01:30:21,439 --> 01:30:24,000
Speaker 18: fat adapted, we do need to first, you know, we

1663
01:30:24,000 --> 01:30:25,479
Speaker 18: didn't have you start that way.

1664
01:30:25,560 --> 01:30:26,160
Speaker 2: We had you.

1665
01:30:26,200 --> 01:30:30,479
Speaker 18: Starting to eat more consistently throughout the day to get

1666
01:30:30,479 --> 01:30:33,920
Speaker 18: your metabolism repaired. And then once it's there, we can

1667
01:30:33,960 --> 01:30:36,519
Speaker 18: play with the timing like we did for you, and

1668
01:30:36,560 --> 01:30:40,160
Speaker 18: we can reduce inflammation through that process. And when that

1669
01:30:40,320 --> 01:30:46,000
Speaker 18: happens it feels so good. Women benefit too, but men specifically,

1670
01:30:46,720 --> 01:30:50,120
Speaker 18: I hear all the time what you're saying, enhanced mental clarity,

1671
01:30:50,240 --> 01:30:54,960
Speaker 18: better focus, better memory. You're just sharper, quicker, sleep deeper.

1672
01:30:55,040 --> 01:30:57,880
Speaker 18: Don't necessarily need more sleep, but when you wake up

1673
01:30:57,960 --> 01:31:00,840
Speaker 18: from the same amount of sleep you were getting, you

1674
01:31:00,960 --> 01:31:05,120
Speaker 18: now feel more rejuvenated and awake and alert. It's really amazing.

1675
01:31:06,320 --> 01:31:09,960
Speaker 2: My phdweightloss dot Com is the website and people call

1676
01:31:10,240 --> 01:31:13,240
Speaker 2: from this audience often. Now I'm thrilled to here are

1677
01:31:13,240 --> 01:31:15,720
Speaker 2: calling your office to get on board. And you're kind

1678
01:31:15,800 --> 01:31:18,120
Speaker 2: enough to tell the audience that if they're willing to

1679
01:31:18,160 --> 01:31:20,080
Speaker 2: call you and get started on your program, you're going

1680
01:31:20,120 --> 01:31:23,400
Speaker 2: to give them two free weeks complimentary just for being

1681
01:31:24,000 --> 01:31:25,800
Speaker 2: a listener of this show. And we thank you for

1682
01:31:25,840 --> 01:31:27,759
Speaker 2: that because I know people are wanting to get healthy

1683
01:31:27,840 --> 01:31:31,240
Speaker 2: all over the country that listen. You talk about that

1684
01:31:31,600 --> 01:31:34,160
Speaker 2: visceral fat a lot, as it's called belly fat, and

1685
01:31:34,200 --> 01:31:35,920
Speaker 2: as we get older, you know, I'm pushing the big

1686
01:31:35,960 --> 01:31:39,880
Speaker 2: five to zero. It just does everybody understands that it

1687
01:31:39,880 --> 01:31:43,639
Speaker 2: gets harder to lose that particular fat, the belly fat.

1688
01:31:43,880 --> 01:31:45,480
Speaker 2: Why what's going on there?

1689
01:31:47,280 --> 01:31:51,320
Speaker 18: Most people don't understand the impact of the belly fat.

1690
01:31:51,479 --> 01:31:55,040
Speaker 18: So what happens in our lives is we usually experience

1691
01:31:55,120 --> 01:31:58,280
Speaker 18: a trigger, and this trigger changes the way that we

1692
01:31:58,400 --> 01:32:02,240
Speaker 18: tolerate our food. Men usually it's some kind of stress

1693
01:32:02,320 --> 01:32:06,760
Speaker 18: trigger like a change in job, or getting out of

1694
01:32:06,840 --> 01:32:11,600
Speaker 18: college and starting a new life, getting married, getting divorced.

1695
01:32:11,960 --> 01:32:15,360
Speaker 18: These things for men trigger the accumulation of this deep

1696
01:32:15,400 --> 01:32:18,400
Speaker 18: belly fat what's called visceral fat. For women, it's usually

1697
01:32:18,439 --> 01:32:23,519
Speaker 18: a hormonal response like perimenopause, menopause, pregnancy, and all of

1698
01:32:23,520 --> 01:32:26,479
Speaker 18: a sudden we start packing on the pounds, specifically in

1699
01:32:26,520 --> 01:32:29,840
Speaker 18: the belly. Now, this deep belly fat is different than

1700
01:32:29,840 --> 01:32:32,280
Speaker 18: the fat throughout the rest of the body. It packs

1701
01:32:32,320 --> 01:32:35,320
Speaker 18: in and around your organs, It squeezes them tight like

1702
01:32:35,400 --> 01:32:38,960
Speaker 18: a straight jacket. It grows its own blood vessels as

1703
01:32:38,960 --> 01:32:41,360
Speaker 18: a result, it gets its own oxygen supply, and it

1704
01:32:41,439 --> 01:32:44,800
Speaker 18: starts to secrete hormones. So what I want you to

1705
01:32:44,800 --> 01:32:47,000
Speaker 18: think about when it comes to the belly fat is

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01:32:47,040 --> 01:32:49,840
Speaker 18: that it's like a tumor almost It acts in the

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01:32:49,880 --> 01:32:54,040
Speaker 18: same way. It secretes hormones that cause major inflammation in

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Speaker 18: the body. We were just talking about inflammation. It's the

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01:32:56,680 --> 01:32:59,759
Speaker 18: root of all disease. And then in men, for example,

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Speaker 18: secretes this hormone called aromatase, which takes your testosterone converts

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Speaker 18: it into estrogen. So if you're a man and you're

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01:33:07,280 --> 01:33:11,559
Speaker 18: carrying belly fat, you've got lower testosterone, higher estrogen. You're

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01:33:11,600 --> 01:33:14,879
Speaker 18: going to continue to accumulate the fat in specific areas

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01:33:14,920 --> 01:33:18,679
Speaker 18: as a result, like your belly, chest, throat, and head,

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01:33:18,800 --> 01:33:21,800
Speaker 18: and then you're going to experience high blood pressure and

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01:33:21,840 --> 01:33:25,960
Speaker 18: sleep apnea. Like it's just this cascade of events that happens.

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Speaker 18: So what's important to understand is your belly fat keeps

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01:33:30,000 --> 01:33:32,960
Speaker 18: you fat. All it wants to do is get fatter

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01:33:33,040 --> 01:33:35,920
Speaker 18: as fast as possible, and it secretes hormones that also

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01:33:36,080 --> 01:33:41,160
Speaker 18: cause cravings and hunger, and it slows your metabolism. So

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Speaker 18: a lot of people think, oh, gosh, to lose weight,

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Speaker 18: I just need to take a medication that's going to

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01:33:46,040 --> 01:33:49,080
Speaker 18: have me eat less or I need to move more.

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Speaker 18: But it's really so much more complicated than that. It's

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Speaker 18: all driven by this belly fat that just wants to grow,

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Speaker 18: and you know, no willpower in the world is going

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Speaker 18: to overcome those feelings.

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Speaker 2: And this is what Doctor Ashley Lucas can teach you

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Speaker 2: and tackle if you pick up the phone and work

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Speaker 2: with her team at PhD Weight Loss. A couple of

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Speaker 2: ways to do it, of course eight six four sixty

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Speaker 2: the Doctor Ashley Show. We're going to catch up again

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Speaker 2: soon and we're gonna be even thinner as a show

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Speaker 2: by the time we talk again, doctor Lucas. We're grateful,

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Speaker 2: thank you, thank you. Hey, good morning, glad to have

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Speaker 2: you along. Hope you're ready for a fantastic weekend. Let's

1738
01:34:32,439 --> 01:34:36,000
Speaker 2: head to Detroit Motor City on open line Friday and

1739
01:34:36,040 --> 01:34:38,799
Speaker 2: talk to Steve O. Hey, Steve, you've been very patient

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01:34:39,160 --> 01:34:41,880
Speaker 2: listening there on ninety two point seven. Grateful for you.

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01:34:41,960 --> 01:34:43,160
Speaker 2: Good morning, thanks for calling.

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01:34:43,800 --> 01:34:46,400
Speaker 12: Yeah, good news. They got you guys on for three

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01:34:46,439 --> 01:34:50,080
Speaker 12: hours now, so I got it right on. Yeah. I

1744
01:34:50,120 --> 01:34:52,960
Speaker 12: got on the car in early January because after seven

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01:34:53,000 --> 01:34:55,600
Speaker 12: o'clock I want to race the work to pick up

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01:34:55,640 --> 01:34:57,240
Speaker 12: the other half of the show. I put you on

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01:34:57,280 --> 01:34:58,759
Speaker 12: a computer when I have the time.

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01:35:00,320 --> 01:35:03,679
Speaker 2: We're on for full three hours on ninety two point

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01:35:03,760 --> 01:35:05,559
Speaker 2: seven in Detroit, now, all three hours.

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01:35:06,160 --> 01:35:08,800
Speaker 12: Somebody did something good, so that.

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01:35:08,840 --> 01:35:11,800
Speaker 2: Must be Hey, listen, that's all you guys. You're letting

1752
01:35:11,800 --> 01:35:13,479
Speaker 2: folks know they're at the station. You want to hear

1753
01:35:13,479 --> 01:35:16,120
Speaker 2: more of the show. We're grateful to you, sincerely.

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01:35:16,280 --> 01:35:20,519
Speaker 12: It's a good show. I want to follow up. I'm

1755
01:35:20,560 --> 01:35:23,720
Speaker 12: going to kind of defend the sheriff, even though you

1756
01:35:23,760 --> 01:35:26,160
Speaker 12: know his political thing came out.

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01:35:26,720 --> 01:35:27,519
Speaker 2: You hit on it.

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01:35:27,560 --> 01:35:30,559
Speaker 12: The head fake we're getting from the media when they

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01:35:30,560 --> 01:35:33,160
Speaker 12: made a big deal last week about him being at

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01:35:33,160 --> 01:35:36,600
Speaker 12: a ball game. You know, the media never held Obama

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01:35:36,760 --> 01:35:40,200
Speaker 12: or Clinton accountable for ben Gozzi. We still don't know

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01:35:40,200 --> 01:35:44,640
Speaker 12: where they were. So and a good police investigator, the

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01:35:44,720 --> 01:35:48,000
Speaker 12: boss is going to say, hey, give me a heads

1764
01:35:48,080 --> 01:35:50,960
Speaker 12: up on any case. So really, the sheriff, he's not

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01:35:51,000 --> 01:35:53,320
Speaker 12: going to be involved in the investigation other than the

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01:35:53,400 --> 01:35:56,639
Speaker 12: camera time. You know, if he goes somewhere, you get

1767
01:35:56,680 --> 01:35:59,160
Speaker 12: the old man a head up and heads up, and

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01:35:59,200 --> 01:36:01,600
Speaker 12: you go about your business. And in some cases you

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01:36:01,680 --> 01:36:03,800
Speaker 12: might not even want the boss there in any line

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01:36:03,800 --> 01:36:04,960
Speaker 12: of work, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: You're talking about. I was bringing up earlier for people

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01:36:07,280 --> 01:36:10,120
Speaker 2: that missed it, the kerfuffle between the FEDS and the

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01:36:10,240 --> 01:36:14,080
Speaker 2: local law enforcement authorities investigating the Nancy Guthrie disappearance.

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Speaker 12: Now I don't know about what's going on there, but

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01:36:17,120 --> 01:36:19,760
Speaker 12: it was earlier last earlier in the week where they

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01:36:19,760 --> 01:36:23,639
Speaker 12: were making a big deal he was at ah oh.

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Speaker 2: I guess I missed that the sheriff was hanging out

1778
01:36:25,800 --> 01:36:28,400
Speaker 2: a game instead of investigating Nancy Guthrie. Didn't.

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01:36:28,439 --> 01:36:31,080
Speaker 12: I didn't see that he was at a college game,

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01:36:31,439 --> 01:36:34,519
Speaker 12: you know, And basically, any boss in any line of work. Hey,

1781
01:36:34,880 --> 01:36:36,920
Speaker 12: give me a heads up if something happens, if you're

1782
01:36:36,960 --> 01:36:39,040
Speaker 12: working on something special, because the boss ain't going to

1783
01:36:39,120 --> 01:36:41,960
Speaker 12: be there doing the stuff. He's got his own trained people.

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01:36:42,000 --> 01:36:43,760
Speaker 12: Whatever line of work it is to do it, we

1785
01:36:43,880 --> 01:36:45,760
Speaker 12: just give him the heads up. You know, whoever is,

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01:36:46,600 --> 01:36:48,439
Speaker 12: you know you hit it early too, though, the head

1787
01:36:48,439 --> 01:36:50,920
Speaker 12: fake with the media. I mean, there's a lot of

1788
01:36:50,920 --> 01:36:54,000
Speaker 12: good things happened. Ben Ghazi, they locked that guy up,

1789
01:36:54,680 --> 01:36:59,360
Speaker 12: the stock market fifty thousand points last week, the election

1790
01:37:00,479 --> 01:37:06,960
Speaker 12: raid in uh Georgia. And I know people kids, and

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01:37:07,000 --> 01:37:09,600
Speaker 12: they do have young children. They're gonna get five digits

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01:37:09,680 --> 01:37:13,679
Speaker 12: back in their tax returns. So a lot of good

1793
01:37:13,760 --> 01:37:14,479
Speaker 12: news out there.

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01:37:15,000 --> 01:37:16,960
Speaker 2: Oh, by the way, could I do you want to

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01:37:17,080 --> 01:37:19,519
Speaker 2: you want a new piece of breaking good information this morning,

1796
01:37:19,600 --> 01:37:22,519
Speaker 2: Steve Ready for this January inflation now fell to two

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01:37:22,560 --> 01:37:26,280
Speaker 2: point four percent, which is an eight month low on inflation.

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01:37:26,560 --> 01:37:28,120
Speaker 2: Those numbers just came out this morning.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, so you know, Chris, keep keep doing what you're doing.

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Speaker 12: Some like I said, somebody at w DTK was smart,

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01:37:36,320 --> 01:37:38,120
Speaker 12: said we got to give this guy three hours. I

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01:37:38,160 --> 01:37:39,960
Speaker 12: wish I could have said I called. I'd never had

1803
01:37:39,960 --> 01:37:42,639
Speaker 12: a chance to, but I listened to you regularly all

1804
01:37:42,680 --> 01:37:46,120
Speaker 12: the time, even on the road. And the thing is, though,

1805
01:37:47,120 --> 01:37:50,240
Speaker 12: keep pitting those good news. I you know, it's going

1806
01:37:50,320 --> 01:37:52,519
Speaker 12: to take a long time to get the economy back

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01:37:52,560 --> 01:37:56,680
Speaker 12: after what previous administrations did. We may need, you know,

1808
01:37:57,040 --> 01:38:01,519
Speaker 12: a number of terms of conservatives in office to get

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01:38:01,520 --> 01:38:05,680
Speaker 12: it going. So anybody that's going to be in a

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01:38:05,760 --> 01:38:07,840
Speaker 12: russ and in a panic, well it hasn't changed. It

1811
01:38:07,960 --> 01:38:12,599
Speaker 12: has changed. And then two with the the EPA knocking

1812
01:38:12,720 --> 01:38:14,840
Speaker 12: down that one thing for the auto emissions, if they

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01:38:14,840 --> 01:38:17,800
Speaker 12: want to talk affordability, it's going to drop a car price.

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01:38:17,840 --> 01:38:19,360
Speaker 11: I'm told twenty four hundred bucks.

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01:38:19,439 --> 01:38:22,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, the endangerment rule, that was a big one. Steve Oh,

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01:38:22,640 --> 01:38:24,240
Speaker 2: it is a pleasure to hear from you. Thanks for

1817
01:38:24,280 --> 01:38:26,960
Speaker 2: listening in Detroit all three hours. By the way now

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01:38:27,000 --> 01:38:29,880
Speaker 2: on WDTK ninety two point seven. We are thrilled to

1819
01:38:29,920 --> 01:38:33,040
Speaker 2: have you board, sir. Have a great weekend our telephone

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01:38:33,080 --> 01:38:35,519
Speaker 2: number eighty five fives to go. I like that we

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01:38:35,600 --> 01:38:38,360
Speaker 2: belong in Detroit, Eddie. They need us at Michigan.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, the true grit of the mighty Detroit. I'm from

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Speaker 3: the that Philadelphia.

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01:38:43,680 --> 01:38:47,400
Speaker 2: That was clearly a very wise managerial decision there on

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01:38:47,439 --> 01:38:49,720
Speaker 2: the ground locally. I commend them, We love it to

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01:38:49,760 --> 01:38:56,360
Speaker 2: salute Mark Zuckerberg of Meta, Facebook, Instagram fame is now

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01:38:56,400 --> 01:39:00,719
Speaker 2: looking at moving to Florida. You know, Elon has already

1828
01:39:00,760 --> 01:39:03,760
Speaker 2: moved to Texas. Now Mark Zuckerberg is going to move

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01:39:03,800 --> 01:39:06,720
Speaker 2: to the billionaire Bunker, as they're calling it down there

1830
01:39:06,800 --> 01:39:10,600
Speaker 2: in Florida. Perhaps, Facebook founder CEO Mark Zuckerberg expected to

1831
01:39:10,600 --> 01:39:14,480
Speaker 2: become the latest billionaire to relocate from California to Florida

1832
01:39:15,280 --> 01:39:18,639
Speaker 2: and join what they call the elite billionaire Bunker, as

1833
01:39:18,680 --> 01:39:21,840
Speaker 2: the state legislator hopes to levy a five percent tax

1834
01:39:22,200 --> 01:39:25,760
Speaker 2: on the megawealthy in California. It just keeps happening, And

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01:39:25,800 --> 01:39:28,040
Speaker 2: I tell you what, what a talking point? What a

1836
01:39:28,080 --> 01:39:31,080
Speaker 2: talking point? You know, Gavin Newsom and Ron De Santis

1837
01:39:31,080 --> 01:39:34,360
Speaker 2: have had this famous battle before, and DeSantis incredibly keeps

1838
01:39:34,360 --> 01:39:36,559
Speaker 2: saying that all the wealthy people keep coming to him.

1839
01:39:36,800 --> 01:39:39,400
Speaker 2: All the movement is happening to Florida and Tennessee. In

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01:39:39,479 --> 01:39:45,320
Speaker 2: places like that, they're abandoning the high tax states, the

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Speaker 2: blue states. So that's a wrap for another Christi gall

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Speaker 2: Show podcast. Thanks for committing to it, listening to it

1843
01:39:50,400 --> 01:39:52,960
Speaker 2: all the way through You're a fighter. I like that

1844
01:39:53,000 --> 01:39:55,200
Speaker 2: about you. Hope you'll leave it a five star review

1845
01:39:55,360 --> 01:39:58,200
Speaker 2: and a written review. Apple Podcasts, Spotify. We'll see you

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