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Speaker 1: Life Audio.

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Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to the Praying Christian Woman Podcast. I

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Speaker 2: am Alana here with Jamie. How are you.

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Speaker 1: I'm doing great? How are you? I'm good.

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Speaker 2: We are going to be talking today about sports, and

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Speaker 2: there is always a joke about, oh, I prayed for

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Speaker 2: my sports team to win. There are plenty of pastors

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Speaker 2: who make fun of people who pray for their sports

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Speaker 2: seems to win. There is also a huge experience of

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Speaker 2: being a mother of an athlete or watching somebody play

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Speaker 2: a sport that you love and care about and you're

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Speaker 2: definitely praying for that person. So we're going to have

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Speaker 2: all of these discussions and more, and I'm really excited.

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Speaker 3: Our first of the day today is from Colossians three

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Speaker 3: twenty three from the NIV. It is whatever you do,

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Speaker 3: work at it with all of your heart, as working

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Speaker 3: for the Lord, not for human mess So obviously, no

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Speaker 3: matter what we do, whether it's sports or things that

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Speaker 3: seem more spiritual, it's all for God. And I think

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Speaker 3: that's a great segue into the conversation because I think

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Speaker 3: some of us feel guilty for praying for sports, or

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Speaker 3: even for praying for elements of sports that don't feel spiritual,

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Speaker 3: like oh, yeah. I can pray for my kid to

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Speaker 3: witness to his team, but I can't pray for my

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Speaker 3: kid to score a goal, you know, and that's a

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Speaker 3: lesser prayer. So I think it'll be interesting to kind

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Speaker 3: of get into is it or what?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: What is yeah?

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Speaker 2: Whether you play sports, whether you watch sports, whether you

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Speaker 2: have any loved ones or children or grandchildren who play sports.

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Speaker 2: I think there's going to be some good information here

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Speaker 2: for you. I'm changing up are just for fun from

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Speaker 2: what I was going to do. How about this for

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Speaker 2: just for fun question? Do you have a favorite sports movie?

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Speaker 3: I would say one of my favorites sports movies is Miracle.

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Speaker 1: It's like Miracle on Ice.

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Speaker 3: It's the Disney movie that's about the nineteen eighty US

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Speaker 3: Olympic hockey team and how it's during the Cold It

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Speaker 3: takes place during the Cold War where there's just like

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Speaker 3: high tensions between the US and the Soviet Union, and

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Speaker 3: the Soviets have dominated the sport for decades and the

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Speaker 3: US comes in with literally no chance. In fact, they

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Speaker 3: play a game just before the big Olympic game and

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Speaker 3: they get creamed. And so it's about their you know,

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Speaker 3: it's an underdog story.

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Speaker 1: It's cool.

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Speaker 2: Is it a real story?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's true. Cool, Yeah, it's completely true.

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Speaker 3: It's yeah about the nineteen eighty US Mensal Olympic hockey team.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, what about you.

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Speaker 2: I think up until last year, I probably would have

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Speaker 2: said the Cool Runnings, Yeah, they're so cute, the Jamaican

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Speaker 2: Bother Olympic undernog Yeah, and just very feel good, happy inspiring.

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Speaker 2: There are quite a few sports movies that I don't

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Speaker 2: dislike it all. But actually I think my favorite sports movie,

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Speaker 2: at least at this exact stage of my life, is

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Speaker 2: Chariots a Fire.

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Speaker 3: I was going to guess that because we've had a

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Speaker 3: conversation recently about that and that, Yeah, that came to

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Speaker 1: That is such a good movie.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I rewatched it with our son, who's a runner.

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Speaker 2: I've got a lot of runners in my family. There's

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Speaker 2: also a There were just a lot of close connections.

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Speaker 2: The missionary runner, Eric Little that it's about, grew up

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Speaker 2: on the mission field at the same time my grandma

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Speaker 2: would have been there, and so lots of neat stuff there.

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Speaker 2: I know we did an episode on Christian True Crime Junkies,

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Speaker 2: and I think we might have put that episode on

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Speaker 2: the Praying Christian Woman feed. But if you didn't grab

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Speaker 2: that one yet, we have a whole episode about Eric

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Speaker 2: Little and the man in Chariot's a fire But what

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Speaker 2: happened to him afterwards is where the true crime side

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Speaker 2: and the missionary side comes from. But yeah, I would

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Speaker 2: say at least at this point, that's my book. Cool

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Speaker 2: Runnings is just so happy it's hard not to get

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Speaker 1: Oh.

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Speaker 3: Another good one is Mystery Alaska. Another hockey movie and

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Speaker 3: I think it's Disney also, but it's about Mystery Alaska. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: so it's got the Alaska and it's got the hockey theme.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I like that one too. It's cool.

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Speaker 2: Well, where do you want to Actually, I know where

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Speaker 2: I want to start our conversation. I want to start

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Speaker 2: our conversation with a pet peeve that I have heard

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Speaker 2: lots of Christians talk about, and that is using Philippians

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Speaker 2: is I can do all things through Christ. It gives

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Speaker 2: it's a common tat it's a common verse for athletes,

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Speaker 2: but I have heard Christians get very puritanical, and not

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Speaker 2: opinion saying this verse is specifically about living in plenty

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Speaker 2: or living in once. This verse is about being content.

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Speaker 2: This verse was written by Paul, who was not an

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Speaker 2: Olympic gold medalist. So the question is is it wrong

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Speaker 2: to use that verse to motivate yourself if you're an athlete.

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Speaker 3: I feel like if you can do all things through Christ,

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Speaker 3: who gives you strength, then I mean, can I fly

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Speaker 3: don't think you should claim it like, oh, I can

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Speaker 3: because Christ gives me strength and it's a guarantee.

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Speaker 1: But I can persevere.

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Speaker 3: Beyond what I think are in my own limitations, in

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Speaker 3: I think, in any circumstance, because Christ is our motivation,

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Speaker 3: because we want to do all things for the glory

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Speaker 1: But I think it can have.

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Speaker 3: Some pitfalls for sure, Like you know, I don't know

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Speaker 3: and win the game. You know, I don't know. I'm

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Speaker 3: not sure what part of it is the pet peeve

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't say that it's a pet peeve of mine.

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Speaker 2: It's just when that I have heard peevish by others, right,

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Speaker 2: And so if I were to put myself into the

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Speaker 2: when used in an athletic setting, it's no. God doesn't

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Speaker 2: promise that you're going to score that goal, and so

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Speaker 2: to make light of and joke about people praying for

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Speaker 2: and let's go ahead and also say there's a segment

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Speaker 2: that would say, well, yeah, whichever team has like the

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Speaker 4: Tug of war, a spiritual tug of war, a spiritual

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Speaker 4: we're like, well, you know, the Packers had twelve hundred

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Speaker 2: So I guess the Seahawks are going to win this year.

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Speaker 2: You know. So I guess where I have a peeve

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I mean this brings me to a verse.

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Speaker 3: I thought it was a cool verse. I almost made

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Speaker 3: for physical training is of some value, but godliness has

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Speaker 1: And I could see someone looking at this.

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Speaker 3: And saying, well, see, why are you even playing sports?

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Speaker 3: an interesting verse, and he's like, well, so much of

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Speaker 3: an important reminder. But the other the reminder is you

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Speaker 3: it for God's glory. It doesn't matter whether you eat,

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Speaker 3: looking at the big picture of it, not just through

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of benefits to sports and to

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Speaker 2: benefits to pushing yourself just to learn that you can

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Speaker 2: earthly minded. Can it go overboard? Absolutely. But one of

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Speaker 2: then God's going to punish me because he doesn't want

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Speaker 2: that's why I love that Colossian Street seventeen. I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: probably go out on a pretty thick glimb. I don't

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Speaker 2: think it's at stretch. It's probably our most quoted verse

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Speaker 3: my intention to God, like, come on, you know what

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Speaker 1: And come on, how easy would it be.

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Speaker 3: To let him score a goal. It was a full

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Speaker 3: really hard for him and when he wasn't good for years,

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Speaker 3: and if he hadn't had that, you know, maybe that

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Speaker 3: was I mean, I think there's a temptation to figure

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Speaker 3: it and say, well, it's because if he had been

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Speaker 3: stories to tell about pushing through that would have maybe

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Speaker 3: gotten him into West Point. Maybe he wouldn't have gotten in.

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Speaker 3: But the reality is we don't know, and we may

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Speaker 3: never know. But it has to be okay whatever God decides,

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Speaker 3: and it doesn't mean he's not listening or that he

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Speaker 3: doesn't care, or that he loves you less for giving

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Speaker 3: you the exact opposite of what you prayed for.

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Speaker 1: Amen.

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Speaker 2: I think a really good takeaway for any praying woman,

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Speaker 2: whatever you're praying for, if you are passionately and fervently

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Speaker 2: allow the outcome to fall where it falls, and worship

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Speaker 2: God regardless. There's a verse from Job that I've been

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Speaker 2: thinking about quite a lot, and it's, you know, God

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Speaker 2: blessed Job. He was rich, he had a great family,

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Speaker 2: and then everything got taken away, and his wife tells

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Speaker 2: him just curse God and die, and he says, shall

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Speaker 2: we accept good from the Lord and not harm? And

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Speaker 2: so the idea is, pray with all of your heart

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Speaker 2: your heart are completely just squashed, that you will praise

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Speaker 2: God with the same love and joy and gratitude as

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Speaker 2: if he had answered that prayer, because He's the same

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Speaker 2: God no matter what.

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Speaker 3: And what I find is typically in those situations I

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Speaker 3: don't want to do You don't have that overflow of

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Speaker 3: joy that just turns into praise, so you have to

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Speaker 3: work a little harder at it. But what I do

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Speaker 3: find is when I am able to do that, and

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie, I sometimes I can't. Sometimes I'm

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Speaker 3: just like kind of not I can't. Sometimes sometimes I'm

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Speaker 3: just not there, But when I make an effort and

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Speaker 3: I get to that place of going through the motions

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Speaker 3: of being thankful and grateful and recognizing that there's such

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Speaker 3: a depth of victory, like I feel like there is

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Speaker 3: because it transforms you, because it helps I don't know,

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Speaker 3: giving thanks in hard things is and praising God and

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Speaker 3: hard things like I think not only for us as humans,

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Speaker 3: it transforms us and it empowers us in a way

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Speaker 3: that isn't the same as when it's just bubbling up

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Speaker 3: joy bubbling over into praise and they're both good. I'm

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Speaker 3: not saying one's bad or one's good, but I just

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Speaker 3: there is a real depth to it and a real

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Speaker 3: satisfaction in being able to do that. And I just

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Speaker 3: also feel like it sticks it to the enemy extra

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Speaker 3: hard when you can overcome and basically the enemy is

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Speaker 3: trying to I'm certain the enemy is trying to get

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Speaker 3: a foothold, getting you to question God, getting you to

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Speaker 3: doubt God and be angry with God. And when you

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Speaker 3: don't let him, and you override that easy way out

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Speaker 3: into complaining and frustration. Not to say that frustration is bad,

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Speaker 3: but when you can override that with praise, like I

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Speaker 3: don't know, I think something very a spiritual reality happens.

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Speaker 3: Something happens spiritually that is amazing.

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Speaker 1: Amen.

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Speaker 2: Well, if that should be close with our blessing and benediction.

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Speaker 1: Yes, all right.

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Speaker 2: May the Lord open the eyes of your heart and

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Speaker 2: fill you with wisdom in the inmost places. May the Glory,

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Speaker 2: Yes Father, grant you a spirit of wisdom and revelation,

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Speaker 2: so you may know Christ, who has become for us

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Speaker 2: wisdom from God. In the areas of your life in

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Speaker 2: need of guidance, may God grant you his wisdom in abundance,

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Speaker 2: so that you will not lean on your own insight,

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Speaker 2: but rely on the full riches of complete understanding, which

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Speaker 2: are yours in abundance through Christ.

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Speaker 3: And our benediction is from Romans fifteen, verses five and six.

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Speaker 3: May the God of endurance and encouragement grant you to

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Speaker 3: live in such harmony with one another in accord with

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Speaker 3: Christ Jesus, that together you may with one voice glorify

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Speaker 3: the God and Father of our Lord, Jesus Christ.

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Speaker 1: Amen.

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