WEBVTT - THE U.S. HAS WON THE WAR AGAINST IRAN 

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<v Speaker 1>The voice of free speech, the truth delivered, common sense

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<v Speaker 1>for the American people. Welcome to the Scott Jennings Show.

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<v Speaker 2>Treasury Secretary Scott Bessant says the United States is launching

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<v Speaker 2>Economic d Day designed to further isolate the Iranian regime

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<v Speaker 2>and to punish countries that continue doing business with it.

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<v Speaker 2>Press conference underway right now in Washington will bring you

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<v Speaker 2>the audio from Bessant as soon as we have it.

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<v Speaker 2>The Trump Administration's fight against drug cartels continues as the

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<v Speaker 2>US military has destroyed a suspected drug smuggling vessel in

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<v Speaker 2>the Eastern Pacific. Two are killed in that attack, and

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<v Speaker 2>democratic infighting continues as House Democrat Leader Hakim Jeffries is

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<v Speaker 2>facing intense criticism from within his own party after privately

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<v Speaker 2>meeting with Jared Kushner. The two met to discuss possible

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<v Speaker 2>bipartisan cooperation on housing, affordability and immigration, but some Democrats

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<v Speaker 2>are none too pleased with Jeffreys over this meeting. It

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<v Speaker 2>is Monday, August twenty fourth. I'm Scott Jennings broadcasting for Salem.

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<v Speaker 3>Men.

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<v Speaker 2>Were coming to you live from Louisville, Kentucky today on

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<v Speaker 2>this day in eighteen fourteen, the British army was marching

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<v Speaker 2>towards Washington. American forces had collapsed at Bladensburg. President James

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<v Speaker 2>Madison fled the Capitol and at the White House. First

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<v Speaker 2>Lady Dolly Madison was being urged to leave before the

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<v Speaker 2>enemy arrived, but she refused to go until one national

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<v Speaker 2>treasure was secured, Gilbert Stewart's full length portrait of George Washington.

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<v Speaker 4>The enormous painting was fastened to the wall.

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<v Speaker 2>There was no time to carefully unscrew it, so at

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<v Speaker 2>Dolly Madison's direction, White House workers broke the frame, removed

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<v Speaker 2>the canvas, and carried President Washington to safety, and only

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<v Speaker 2>then did Dolly Madison escape. Hours later, British troops entered

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<v Speaker 2>the President's house, ate the food that had been left behind,

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<v Speaker 2>and set the building ablaze. They also burned the Capitol

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<v Speaker 2>and other government buildings. Washington was in flames, but the

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<v Speaker 2>portrait of the man who had defeated the British and

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<v Speaker 2>ultimately created the presidency did survive. Dolly Madison saved George

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<v Speaker 2>Washington in the War of eighteen twelve. On this day,

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<v Speaker 2>August twenty fourth, eighteen fourteen, that painting, by the way

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<v Speaker 2>hangs at the National Portrait Gallery in Washington. Always nice

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<v Speaker 2>to stop by and see mister Washington and the other

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<v Speaker 2>presidents when I'm in DC, one of my favorite museums.

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<v Speaker 2>In other news this hour, as I mentioned Scott Bezen

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<v Speaker 2>announcing what he calls Economic d Day for Iran. Bessett

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<v Speaker 2>describes it as the single greatest financial offensive ever marshaled

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<v Speaker 2>against an American adversary. And I believe this announcement may

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<v Speaker 2>confirm something that many in our political class refuse to acknowledge.

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<v Speaker 2>The United States has won the war against Iran. Wars

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<v Speaker 2>are one when one side achieves its strategic objectives and

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<v Speaker 2>the other loses the ability to achieve its own. Iran

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<v Speaker 2>entered this war with four great pillars of strength. It's

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<v Speaker 2>nuclear program, its missiles and drones, its regional terror network,

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<v Speaker 2>and its ability to hold the world economy hostage through

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<v Speaker 2>the strait of war moves. Every one of those pillars

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<v Speaker 2>has been severely damaged or outright destroyed. But Democratic Senator

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<v Speaker 2>Chris Murphy Democratic Senator Chris Murphy sees it differently. Listen

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<v Speaker 2>to him on Meet the Press this weekend. Cut seven.

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<v Speaker 5>Donald Trump has lost this war. America is weaker, Iran

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<v Speaker 5>is stronger. The price to reopen the strait increases by

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<v Speaker 5>the day.

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<v Speaker 2>Even though Iran has lost the war, they haven't lost

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<v Speaker 2>their public relations agency. I see listen to ha Kiem

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<v Speaker 2>Jeffreys cut number eight.

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<v Speaker 6>Donald Chaupen Republicans have plunged America into a reckless and

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<v Speaker 6>costly war of choice that has been a disaster. There

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<v Speaker 6>has been few cases in our lifetime where a president

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<v Speaker 6>started a foreign policy endeavor that has been such a

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<v Speaker 6>colossal failure.

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<v Speaker 2>Democratic Party, it seems, is unified in its desire for

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<v Speaker 2>the American people to believe that we have lost this war,

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<v Speaker 2>even though it's clear the opposite is true. Has Iran

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<v Speaker 2>built a nuclear weapon No, and they couldn't build one

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<v Speaker 2>for decades based on the destruction wrought by the United

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<v Speaker 2>States and Israel. Has Iran defeated the United States military? No,

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<v Speaker 2>quite the opposite. The Navy is fully sunk, The army

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<v Speaker 2>is decimated. Has it driven the United States Navy out

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<v Speaker 2>of the Strait of Hormuz?

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<v Speaker 4>No, our ships travel at will.

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<v Speaker 2>Is Iran able to stop oil from moving in and

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<v Speaker 2>out of the strait?

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<v Speaker 3>No.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, millions of barrels of oil are transiting the

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<v Speaker 2>Strait of Hormos every day more and more every day.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, the Iranian military has been devastated, its missile

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<v Speaker 2>and drone attacks have dramatically declined, its economy is disintegrating,

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<v Speaker 2>and its neighbors are aligning against it. Yet Chris Murphy

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<v Speaker 2>and a Keen Jeffreys, and Corey Booker and virtually every

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<v Speaker 2>other Democrat wants you to believe that America has lost.

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<v Speaker 2>This is what Trump hatred has done to the Democratic Party.

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<v Speaker 2>If Trump succeeds, it's something anything, then Democrats lose politically.

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<v Speaker 2>So if America wins, Trump receives the credit, so they

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<v Speaker 2>minimize every American excess success, They exaggerate every setback, and

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<v Speaker 2>they declare defeat while our enemy is barely able to survive.

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<v Speaker 2>There's nothing wrong with questioning a war or debating its

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<v Speaker 2>costs and tactics. But there is something deeply wrong with

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<v Speaker 2>allowing partisan hatred to make you so emotionally invested in

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<v Speaker 2>American failure, especially when that leads you to openly lie

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<v Speaker 2>to the American people about what's actually going on here.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's look at the balance sheet. Iran spent decades and

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<v Speaker 2>billions of dollars building, underground missile sites, drone factories, naval shipyards,

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<v Speaker 2>air defenses, revolutionary guard installations. The United States military has

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<v Speaker 2>systematically took it all apart. The Pentagon said months ago

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<v Speaker 2>that Iranian missile and drone attacks had fallen by more

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<v Speaker 2>than ninety percent, and that more than two thirds of

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<v Speaker 2>Iran's missile, drone and naval production facilities and shipyards had

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<v Speaker 2>been damaged or destroyed. Now, Iran may still possess the

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<v Speaker 2>ability to lash out a wounded animal, after all, does

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<v Speaker 2>remain dangerous, but it no longer possesses the military power

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<v Speaker 2>it claimed to have before the war began, and they

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<v Speaker 2>no longer possess the ability to make a nuclear bomb.

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<v Speaker 2>Iran may retain nuclear knowledge, but knowledge is different than

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<v Speaker 2>making a bomb. A bomb requires facilities, machinery, material protection,

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<v Speaker 2>and delivery systems. America has demonstrated that whenever Iran attempts

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<v Speaker 2>to assemble those pieces, we can find them, reach them,

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<v Speaker 2>and destroy them, and that will be true forever. That's

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<v Speaker 2>what we call deterrence, and it's also what we should

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<v Speaker 2>be calling victory. The strait of horror moves. This was

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to be Iran's ultimate weapon. Tehran believed it could

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<v Speaker 2>close the straight choke off the world's energy supply and

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<v Speaker 2>force America to retreat. And in fact, that's what the

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<v Speaker 2>Democrats wanted, full retreat. But what's the situation today? Oil

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<v Speaker 2>is moving. Tankers are crossing through a system coated and

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<v Speaker 2>protected by the US Navy. Iran tried to close the

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<v Speaker 2>world's oil highway, but the United States Navy punched a

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<v Speaker 2>lane right through it and found other ways to get

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<v Speaker 2>oil out of the region. And now comes Economic d

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<v Speaker 2>Day today from Scott Bessen. The administration is dramatically expanding

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<v Speaker 2>secondary sanctions and what that means in plain English is

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<v Speaker 2>that any foreign bank, refinery, shipping company, or government helping

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<v Speaker 2>Iran sell oil or move money will face a choice.

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<v Speaker 2>You can do business with Iran or you can do

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<v Speaker 2>business with the United States, but you cannot do both.

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<v Speaker 2>China purchases more than eighty percent of Iran's shipped oil,

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<v Speaker 2>so this message is aimed directly at Beijing and at

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<v Speaker 2>anyone else who is financing the Iranian regime. The pressure

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<v Speaker 2>is working, and the Iranian currency has fallen beyond two

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<v Speaker 2>million to one American dollar. Iran's economy is projected to

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<v Speaker 2>shrink by more than five percent this year. Prices for

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<v Speaker 2>basic food or soaring. The American naval blockade is strangling

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<v Speaker 2>the oil revenue that Iran uses to finance it's terrorism

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<v Speaker 2>and terrorist proxies. This is the strategic position that Trump

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<v Speaker 2>has created.

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<v Speaker 4>And all that's left.

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<v Speaker 2>All that's left is for our president to come to

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<v Speaker 2>the American people and say we've won, declare victory. And

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<v Speaker 2>I suspect you're going to see that sooner rather than later.

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<v Speaker 4>More news after this, It's Scott Jennings on Salem.

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<v Speaker 1>Stay with us, the man who made CNN safe for

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<v Speaker 1>conservatives again. Here's Scott Jennings.

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<v Speaker 2>Monday, August the twenty fourth, Common Sense for the American People.

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<v Speaker 2>Scott Jennings is here on Salem, joining us now. Elizabeth Pipco,

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<v Speaker 2>former GOP national spokeswoman and Trump campaign official, also an

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<v Speaker 2>author and outspoken activist on Behalf of the Jewish People.

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<v Speaker 2>She's also the founder of Lest People Forget, a digital

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<v Speaker 2>initiative dedicated to preserving Holocaust history and combating anti Semitism.

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<v Speaker 2>MS Pipco, Welcome back to the Scott Jennings Show.

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<v Speaker 7>Thanks for having me. Good to see you.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm glad to see you, glad to hear your voice.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to get your thoughts on what's going on

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<v Speaker 2>up in Michigan to me. And you've been outspoken in

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<v Speaker 2>your fight against anti Semitism in our politics, and you've

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<v Speaker 2>also been outspoken in your warnings about socialism. But to me,

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<v Speaker 2>the greatest convergence of these things is happening in that

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<v Speaker 2>Senate race up in Michigan. The Democrat is Abdul l

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<v Speaker 2>Sayed and the Republican there is Mike Rogers. But when

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<v Speaker 2>you consider what Abdul l Sied has said, what his

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<v Speaker 2>campaign surrogates are saying every day, the fact that the

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<v Speaker 2>Michigan Attorney General, a Jewish Democrat herself, is feeling so

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<v Speaker 2>unsafe that she can't go to the Democratic convention up there.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just curious, Elizabeth, about your thoughts and feelings on

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on in Michigan. To me, this is the

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<v Speaker 2>battle line on these two issues. What say you about

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<v Speaker 2>the stakes of the race in Michigan.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I mean, I think, fortunately, or maybe unfortunately, the

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<v Speaker 7>fact that we're here and having this conversation kind of

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<v Speaker 7>proves just how much these two issues go together. Right,

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<v Speaker 7>Those who hate Jews and hate Israel, despite Israel being

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<v Speaker 7>one of our closest allies, also very often find themselves

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<v Speaker 7>on the side with those who hate America. It's blatantly obvious,

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<v Speaker 7>and it happens time and time again. But I don't

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<v Speaker 7>know if there is a case as clear and blatant

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<v Speaker 7>as El sa Ed in Michigan as this people speaking

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<v Speaker 7>for his campaign, those he refuses to distance himself from

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<v Speaker 7>the common that he has made, despite every single person

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<v Speaker 7>that's already endorsed him standing by him. I don't see

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<v Speaker 7>there being anything he could possibly do or say right

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<v Speaker 7>now that would cause anyone to, you know, kind of

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<v Speaker 7>withhold an endorsement. I think someone like Bernie Sanders going

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<v Speaker 7>out saying he supports him, then Elsayad going out and

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<v Speaker 7>saying he's actually a capitalist, and then saying he wants

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<v Speaker 7>to take things further than Bernie does when it comes

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<v Speaker 7>to socialism, proofs that words, unfortunately don't matter anymore. They

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<v Speaker 7>don't even know what they're saying anymore. They changed their

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<v Speaker 7>mind to daily, and yet what they don't change their

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<v Speaker 7>mind on is standing with folks like Hassan Piker who

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<v Speaker 7>say we deserved nine to eleven. So I have warned

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<v Speaker 7>people for years. I've had the privilege of getting to

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<v Speaker 7>understand this problem because I come from a family of immigrants.

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<v Speaker 7>Both my parents fled the Soviet Union. I was told

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<v Speaker 7>about anti Semitism almost at the same level that I

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<v Speaker 7>was warned about socialism and communism by my parents and grandparents.

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<v Speaker 7>And to see folks in our country really proudly taking

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<v Speaker 7>on all of these beliefs and these policy proposals and

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<v Speaker 7>winning these primaries is very, very scary, especially for a

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<v Speaker 7>party that you know, was the party of JFK that

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<v Speaker 7>my parents became, you know, proud members of when they

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<v Speaker 7>came to this country. And seeing it happen is incredibly scary.

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<v Speaker 7>But ironically, it's exactly what my grandfather warned me about

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<v Speaker 7>for many, many years.

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<v Speaker 2>Elizabeth Pipco, former national spokesperson for the Republican Party and

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<v Speaker 2>for the Trump campaign, is our guest here on the

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<v Speaker 2>Scott Jetting Show. Elizabeth, I am curious about your reaction

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<v Speaker 2>to how the Democrats are treating Natalie Harp. I've talked

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<v Speaker 2>a lot about this on the show and on CNN

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<v Speaker 2>the last several days, but you know, you as an

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<v Speaker 2>accomplished female political operative who rose up in the ranks

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<v Speaker 2>of the Republican Party. When you see Democrats dragging Natalie

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<v Speaker 2>Harp's name through the mud, punching down on someone who's

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<v Speaker 2>not a famous person, who's not a household name, and

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<v Speaker 2>clearly communicating this sexism and misogyny, do you think voters

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<v Speaker 2>are going to be repulsed by this? I certainly hope

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<v Speaker 2>they see what's going on here. What do you think,

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<v Speaker 2>you know?

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<v Speaker 7>I hope so. I think those that are undecided tho

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<v Speaker 7>in the middle certainly would be. Unfortunately, I think we're

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<v Speaker 7>so polarized. I don't know how large that percentage of

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<v Speaker 7>American voters actually is at this point. But Natalie is

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<v Speaker 7>a friend. She's a wonderful person. She is someone who

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<v Speaker 7>has never sought the limelight in any way, shape or form.

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<v Speaker 7>She just wants to serve the president and this country.

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<v Speaker 7>To see the attacks is not surprising to see the

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<v Speaker 7>lack of people having the courage to go out and say, hey,

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<v Speaker 7>this is wrong. We can hate Donald Trump, or we

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<v Speaker 7>can't treat the staffers this way. Again, it's to be

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<v Speaker 7>expected at this point in time, but we noticed this

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<v Speaker 7>back in twenty sixteen. People have always been really really

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<v Speaker 7>nasty during primaries during election cycles to the candidates, but

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<v Speaker 7>they've never attacked their families, their staffers, and their supporters

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<v Speaker 7>as they do and have for ten years with President Trump.

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<v Speaker 7>Everyone excuses it, but Natalie doesn't deserve it. None of

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<v Speaker 7>us deserve it. Very similar comments. Let's say I've been

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<v Speaker 7>made about me and it hurt me, and it hurts

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<v Speaker 7>me to watch Natalie go through it. I know she's

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<v Speaker 7>tough enough to deal with it, but I would hope

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<v Speaker 7>there are enough You ask me the number of people.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm hoping there are enough people that realize that they're

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<v Speaker 7>repulsed by this and that no amount of hatred for

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<v Speaker 7>Donald Trump excuse us as kind of behavior.

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<v Speaker 4>That's amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>When you begin to be totally consumed by hate the

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<v Speaker 2>way the president's enemies are exactly, you can really get

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<v Speaker 2>off the rails in a hurry. I think that's what's

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<v Speaker 2>happening here with Harp and the Party of Women has

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<v Speaker 2>lost its way. Elizabeth Pipcoh, thanks for joining us here

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<v Speaker 2>on the Scott Jennings Show. Grateful for your insights today.

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<v Speaker 2>We have to take a break when we come back.

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<v Speaker 2>Brent Sadler from the Heritage Foundation is here. He's our

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<v Speaker 2>naval blockade expert. We're going to talk more about Iran

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<v Speaker 2>and have some audio from Scott Besson right after this.

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<v Speaker 1>The very definition I've never backed down. Here's Scott Jennings.

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<v Speaker 2>In about thirty seconds, we're gonna get to our friend

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<v Speaker 2>Brent Sadler from the Heritage Foundation.

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<v Speaker 4>You've heard Brent.

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<v Speaker 2>He's our expert on naval warfare and this naval blockade

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<v Speaker 2>that is going on, and I want to get him

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<v Speaker 2>to react to this as promised. Here's some audio from

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<v Speaker 2>our Treasury Secretary Scott Besson, who has launched today what

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<v Speaker 2>he is calling Economic d Day for Iran. This is

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<v Speaker 2>a set of crippling sanctions designed to really put the

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<v Speaker 2>proverbial boot on the throat of the Iranian terror regimes.

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<v Speaker 2>Here is Scott Besson and cut number twelve.

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<v Speaker 6>Nation economic outcasts to foreclose every other option available to

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<v Speaker 6>the Iranian regime. Treasury has mapped every node, every facilitator,

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<v Speaker 6>and every network that Iran has used to smuggle oil

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<v Speaker 6>and evade sanctions. Beginning today, the actions of Treasury and

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<v Speaker 6>other agencies will tighten the noose and block every potential

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<v Speaker 6>source of revenue that funds the IRGC and the evil

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<v Speaker 6>Iranian regime. We are enforcing a zero leakage approach. There

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<v Speaker 6>will be no minimal breathing space for the regime to

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<v Speaker 6>rebuild this capacity to inflict terror against America and the world.

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<v Speaker 6>The final refuge of this regime is a mistaken conclusion

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<v Speaker 6>of nations that still finance the Iranian threat in the

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<v Speaker 6>hopes of evading it.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, that was Scott Bessant just moments ago announcing

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<v Speaker 2>these new sanctions against Iran. Let's bring Brent Sadler in

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<v Speaker 2>here from the Heritage Foundation. Brent, welcome back to the

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<v Speaker 2>Scott Jennings Show. You are a research fellow for Naval

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<v Speaker 2>Warfare and Advanced Technology at the Heritage Foundation. Twenty six

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<v Speaker 2>years in the Navy, you had operational assignments aboard nuclear

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<v Speaker 2>powered subs, and you worked on the staff over at

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<v Speaker 2>the Pentagon of its most senior officials. Brent, when you

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<v Speaker 2>hear Scott Bessant today and when you look at the

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<v Speaker 2>news over the weekend that basically Iran has lost control

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<v Speaker 2>of the Strait of Horror moves, what does this tell

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<v Speaker 2>you about where we stand in this war against Iran?

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<v Speaker 8>Thanks for having me back on I mean, clearly militarily,

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<v Speaker 8>the United States has won this fight quite a long

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<v Speaker 8>time ago. It's really you know, inaction or to kind

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<v Speaker 8>of acquiesce that we could lose all of the hard

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<v Speaker 8>fought advantages and putting this terroristic regime in perhaps the

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<v Speaker 8>weakest place it's ever been since its revolution in nineteen

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<v Speaker 8>seventy nine. The economic tools that are being brought to bear,

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<v Speaker 8>there's a kinetic element to it that I think kind

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<v Speaker 8>of gets not really mentioned enough, and that is the

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<v Speaker 8>target of these economic d day is going to be

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<v Speaker 8>breaking down the networks, the finance networks, of course, which

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<v Speaker 8>includes people moving some very insanity characters, moving suitcases of

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<v Speaker 8>cash and interdicting that as well as keeping those that

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<v Speaker 8>are benefiting and maybe moving liquid finances through global finance

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<v Speaker 8>markets to be able to benefit by facilitating even at

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<v Speaker 8>the higher level the trade and energy in particular with

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<v Speaker 8>this regime. So it's going to have to be comprehensive,

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<v Speaker 8>and it's going to get dirty and a level that

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<v Speaker 8>we haven't really seen or associated with the word economic

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<v Speaker 8>sanctions in the past.

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<v Speaker 2>This appears, I think you're right to go well beyond

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<v Speaker 2>what we normally think of as sanctions and in fact,

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<v Speaker 2>if you listen carefully to Bessent there, it sounds like

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<v Speaker 2>they have basically tracked down every possible source of funding

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<v Speaker 2>for Iran and in fact, they leave no stone unturned here.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's listen to bess In here.

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<v Speaker 2>About what he's expecting this week on that very front,

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<v Speaker 2>Cut thirteen, and.

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<v Speaker 6>I would expect that you will see a major announcement

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<v Speaker 6>of a financial institution being sanctioned by the end of

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<v Speaker 6>this week.

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<v Speaker 2>So brand it sounds like the US government is at

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<v Speaker 2>the point where they're saying to the rest of the world,

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<v Speaker 2>either with us or you with the Iranians, and we're

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<v Speaker 2>not going to tolerate anybody out there who's trying to

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<v Speaker 2>go behind our backs or play both sides of that.

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<v Speaker 8>Is that what you hear, I think something very close

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<v Speaker 8>to that, if nothing else, is a very principled approach. It's like,

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<v Speaker 8>if you continue with your activities that are in the

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<v Speaker 8>dark a, we're going to bring it out to the

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<v Speaker 8>public to see to the world, and we're also going

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<v Speaker 8>to start to go after and make it, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>a detriment or a liability for you to continue doing

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<v Speaker 8>this activity. So I'm pretty sure the Secretary knows and

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<v Speaker 8>has a list more than one of institutions that are

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<v Speaker 8>on the list, and that includes, you know, not just

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<v Speaker 8>financial institutions. Might it could be shipping firms, It could

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<v Speaker 8>be those that are ensuring those those shipping interests to

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<v Speaker 8>move Iranian petroleum. But it's not just petroleum, of course,

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<v Speaker 8>it's at risk here.

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<v Speaker 2>Brent Sadler from the Heritage Foundation is our guest. Brent,

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<v Speaker 2>let's talk about the naval blockade for a moment. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>for weeks we were told by Democrats that we had

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<v Speaker 2>lost the war because Iran had taken control of the

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<v Speaker 2>Strait of Horror Moves. There was no oil flowing, we

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<v Speaker 2>had no capacity to do anything about it. Fast forward

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<v Speaker 2>just a few weeks and there's headlines now even in

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<v Speaker 2>CNN that say Iran has lost control of the Strait

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<v Speaker 2>of Horror Moves. We've seen millions of barrels of oil flowing,

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<v Speaker 2>and so it's like this sort of last ditch effort

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<v Speaker 2>by the Iranians to have any leverage here. The Strait

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<v Speaker 2>of Hormuz is gone. It's evaporated for them, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>in large part because of the US Navy.

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<v Speaker 4>How did we do it?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, so there's a couple of things. I mean, again

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<v Speaker 8>where we are right now, there's a military element, and

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<v Speaker 8>that's sinking the Iranian Navy degrading significantly any of their

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<v Speaker 8>missile forces and drone forces to threaten shipping in the

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<v Speaker 8>straight oh hor moves. But it's not zero. I mean

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<v Speaker 8>they're relying on a terror campaign to try to get

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<v Speaker 8>inside the mind of the shippers and the captains of

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<v Speaker 8>these ships so that they don't make the transit. It

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<v Speaker 8>still is lethal. You had two sailors that died in

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<v Speaker 8>the last week trying to make that transit. But more

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<v Speaker 8>and more ships are passing through. But also importantly, and

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<v Speaker 8>this is an important point, that this is a fight

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<v Speaker 8>for the US to lose really by our own actions.

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<v Speaker 8>The oil markets have adjusted in a way they're not

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<v Speaker 8>going to go back to one. Petroleum is moving through pipes,

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<v Speaker 8>the East West Pipeline across from the Persian Gulf to

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<v Speaker 8>the Red Sea in Saudi Arabia. There's pipeline at max

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<v Speaker 8>capacity in UAE that is now moving well over a

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<v Speaker 8>majority of the crude oil over pipelines, and more of

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<v Speaker 8>that is coming. It's going to take time, of course,

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<v Speaker 8>to build the pipelines. A big question is you know LNG,

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<v Speaker 8>which there is no pipeline for that, but that's really

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<v Speaker 8>for countries like South Kreen and Japan to kind of

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<v Speaker 8>have to deal with because they rely on that. But

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<v Speaker 8>the key point of this is the markets are moving

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<v Speaker 8>to American advantage. The OPEK, which has been really still

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<v Speaker 8>trying to suppress production, you had it break apart. Now

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<v Speaker 8>you have UAE that departed in May first, and so

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<v Speaker 8>the steams of what has not been you know, an

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<v Speaker 8>oil cartel that really has American interest to one now

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<v Speaker 8>where American energy production is going to be the strategic

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<v Speaker 8>lever that the world spends on. And that's good for

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<v Speaker 8>American security, it's good for American prosperity too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, when I hear Democrats Brent say that we've lost war,

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<v Speaker 2>this was a blunder. There was no plan, So I

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<v Speaker 2>hear this. These are political talking points. And now we

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<v Speaker 2>see though how everything was working together. US military campaign

0:24:11.480 --> 0:24:16.800
<v Speaker 2>was overwhelmingly successful, naval blockade overwhelmingly successful. Now we have

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<v Speaker 2>this sort of final blow against the Iranians, these crippling

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<v Speaker 2>next level economic sanctions. It's obvious to anybody who's paying

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<v Speaker 2>attention and isn't broken brain by their own partisanship that

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<v Speaker 2>yes there was a plan, and yes there is a

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<v Speaker 2>way to bring about the end of this war to

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<v Speaker 2>not just America's advantage, but to the advantage of.

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<v Speaker 4>The rest of the civilized world. Is that how you

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<v Speaker 4>see it?

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<v Speaker 8>Absolutely? I mean, there's a couple ways to go about

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<v Speaker 8>fighting this. For the President has chosen to take his

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<v Speaker 8>time about it because he has all the advantages. I mean,

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<v Speaker 8>the military threat is significant reduced from the Iranians. If

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<v Speaker 8>you wanted to kind of march in and dictate terms,

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<v Speaker 8>that's putting boots on the ground, and that's not something

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<v Speaker 8>that anyone's really he really entertaining, nor is it necessary

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<v Speaker 8>to get to a better place. So let time play out.

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<v Speaker 8>The economic pressure and the military pressures have to be maintained,

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<v Speaker 8>of course, hand in hand. But time is actually on

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<v Speaker 8>the United States' side. It's certainly not on the Chinese

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<v Speaker 8>side in this. And I think the regime in Tehran

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<v Speaker 8>is you know, by the time they realize the game

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<v Speaker 8>is up for them, it'll be too late and you'll

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<v Speaker 8>start to see a fracturing of the regime very quickly.

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<v Speaker 2>That's Brent Sadler from the Heritage Foundation Naval Warfare exper

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<v Speaker 2>here on the Scott Jennings Show. We got a little

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<v Speaker 2>more from Scott Besson's press conference which just ended a

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<v Speaker 2>few minutes ago. Here's the Secretary of the Treasury cut fifteen.

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<v Speaker 9>Any of those institutions targeted here, is that something that

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<v Speaker 9>is coming in this campaign, or is the very delicate

0:25:51.920 --> 0:25:56.280
<v Speaker 9>trade truce with China something that could prohibit you from,

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<v Speaker 9>you know, going that far and taking that very big step.

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<v Speaker 6>We want to make clear to here today that no

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<v Speaker 6>one is above the reach of US sanctions, that if

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<v Speaker 6>they facilitate transactions and are part of the ecosystem that

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<v Speaker 6>turns Iranian oil into money into repression, they will be targeted.

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<v Speaker 6>We find that the best way to engage with countries

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<v Speaker 6>is through quiet diplomacy, and we are level setting with

0:26:30.200 --> 0:26:34.360
<v Speaker 6>every country to tell them our expectations. We know who

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<v Speaker 6>they are, They know who they are, so when the

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<v Speaker 6>hammer of US Treasury actions falls upon them, they will

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<v Speaker 6>have no one to blame but themselves. Richard from CBS Brent.

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<v Speaker 2>When I hear a Scott Bessont talking today, I hear

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<v Speaker 2>American resolve. And that is a real difference in attitude here,

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<v Speaker 2>isn't it between the two Trump administration, which I think

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<v Speaker 2>you correctly pointed out they've exhibited patients and resolve versus

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<v Speaker 2>the manic, frantic handwringing anti American hyperpartisan democrats who want

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<v Speaker 2>to declare American defeat for political reasons. I hear resolve

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<v Speaker 2>versus manic frantic politics.

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<v Speaker 4>How do you see it?

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<v Speaker 8>I see it the same way. It's gonna take It's

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<v Speaker 8>gonna take time to play out. I don't think it's

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<v Speaker 8>going to be many months to play out. The economic Uh,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, this economic campaign to force it starting at

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<v Speaker 8>least a collapse of this regime at least in part.

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<v Speaker 8>It's going to happen fairly quickly. We'll know if this

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<v Speaker 8>course of action is the right one, I think, certainly

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<v Speaker 8>before the midterm elections. Now, the other thing that's you know,

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<v Speaker 8>the rubber is going to meet the road. Here is

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<v Speaker 8>the China element.

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<v Speaker 3>Here.

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<v Speaker 8>There's a lot riding the summit in September. So how

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<v Speaker 8>much resolved there is that the administration has on holding

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<v Speaker 8>Chinese entities and some of those are of course government entities.

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<v Speaker 8>An agent sies to account. It's going to be the

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<v Speaker 8>real test of this. And one of the key things

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<v Speaker 8>is the United States and this quiet diplomacy providing avenues

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<v Speaker 8>for the Chinese to find to meet their energy needs elsewhere.

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<v Speaker 8>And that's on the tune of several million barrels of

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<v Speaker 8>petroleum a day and untold amounts of LNG that they

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<v Speaker 8>have to find other markets, ideally that be the United States.

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<v Speaker 8>But that quiet diplomacy can make sure that they have

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<v Speaker 8>an off ramp while we continue to wield the economic

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<v Speaker 8>hammer over their head by not complying, and they're going

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<v Speaker 8>to try to cheat, of course, at the same time.

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<v Speaker 4>One more cut from Scott Vessant, let's hear cut fourteen.

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<v Speaker 6>Devote themselves to death to America and seek nuclear weapons

0:28:43.200 --> 0:28:47.520
<v Speaker 6>to do just that. They have murdered and maimed more

0:28:47.520 --> 0:28:52.040
<v Speaker 6>of our citizens and service members than any other terrorist

0:28:52.080 --> 0:28:56.959
<v Speaker 6>regime on Earth. And they have been at war against America,

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<v Speaker 6>their neighbors in the Gulf, and much of the world

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<v Speaker 6>for forty seven years. President Trump has taken action that

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<v Speaker 6>his predecessors have long deferred, and under his leadership, America

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<v Speaker 6>is no longer managing the Iranian threat. We are ending it.

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<v Speaker 2>There you have it from Scott Bessett, Brent Sadler, Thanks

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<v Speaker 2>for coming by. We'll have you back in soon to

0:29:21.920 --> 0:29:25.959
<v Speaker 2>continue to further cover the victory of the Americans in

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<v Speaker 2>Iran quick note about a documentary that is coming out

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<v Speaker 2>that I think you're gonna want to hear. If you

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<v Speaker 2>love Charlie Kirk, and we did love Charlie, he was

0:29:34.920 --> 0:29:37.960
<v Speaker 2>our friend, you need to watch this documentary called Can

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<v Speaker 2>You Hear Me Now? You can get it and pre

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<v Speaker 2>order it by going to can You Hear Me Now?

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<v Speaker 2>Film dot com? Sorry, can you Hear Me Now? Film

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<v Speaker 2>dot com or go to Salem Now dot com. Either

0:29:52.360 --> 0:29:56.000
<v Speaker 2>way get the film. But Charlie sat down for an

0:29:56.000 --> 0:29:59.080
<v Speaker 2>interview just a couple of weeks before he was assassinated,

0:29:59.440 --> 0:30:01.640
<v Speaker 2>and it turned into this documentary and it's sort of

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<v Speaker 2>wrestling over questions of faith and history and what's going

0:30:05.400 --> 0:30:08.960
<v Speaker 2>on in our world today. If you love Charlie, I

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<v Speaker 2>highly recommend you check out this documentary. Can You Hear

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<v Speaker 2>Me Now? Go to Salemnow dot com. More news after this,

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<v Speaker 2>it's Scott Jennings on Salem, Stay.

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<v Speaker 1>With Us Saving Western Civilization, One busted leftist narrative at

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<v Speaker 1>a time. It's the Scott Jenny Show.

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<v Speaker 2>Coming up in thirty seconds, we bring you an interesting

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<v Speaker 2>update to this China birth tourism story that we've been covering.

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<v Speaker 2>It seems that President Trump's actions on this are working.

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<v Speaker 2>First though, I'd like to say to you that for

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<v Speaker 2>nearly two hundred and fifty years, America's founding principles have

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<v Speaker 2>of people gathered up in Des Moines to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>It was a wonderful time and saw all of our

0:31:39.120 --> 0:31:41.880
<v Speaker 2>friends out there. So thanks for that invitation. Next guest

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<v Speaker 2>here is senior contributor at the Federalist and she has

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<v Speaker 2>some reporting about actions being taken by the Trump administration

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<v Speaker 2>to curb the rise of birth tourism. Her name is

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<v Speaker 2>Helen Raleigh, making her inaugural appearance on the Scott Jennings Show. Helen, Welcome, Inn.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell us what you found out about how the Trump

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<v Speaker 2>people are cracking down successfully on birth tourism.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you for having me, Scott. I'm a big fan.

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<v Speaker 3>So President the Trump recently signed an executive order banning

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<v Speaker 3>the cracking down our burst tourism, and as a as

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<v Speaker 3>a result, the State Department also set up a task

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<v Speaker 3>force Scott, the State Department has successfully revoked six hundred

0:32:29.520 --> 0:32:33.120
<v Speaker 3>tourists di visas suspect of UH. You know, the primary

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<v Speaker 3>goal was a burst tourism, and those actions really already

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<v Speaker 3>have a deterrence effect. So on Chinese social media, women's

0:32:43.240 --> 0:32:48.440
<v Speaker 3>pregnant women's or intended to pregnant women's are exchange messages

0:32:48.560 --> 0:32:51.800
<v Speaker 3>about UH. Some women's previous to travel to US to

0:32:51.840 --> 0:32:55.760
<v Speaker 3>give births, and now the tourists divisa being application being

0:32:55.800 --> 0:32:58.920
<v Speaker 3>rejected and some of them actually were turned away at

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<v Speaker 3>the border UH by the Custom officers, and so there

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<v Speaker 3>were a lot of uncertainty and anxiety and their discussions

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<v Speaker 3>about some women's are thinking about changing their plan to

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<v Speaker 3>come to you as just for the goal to give

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<v Speaker 3>birds have their children obtain US citizenship. So there's definitely

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<v Speaker 3>those actions by the Trump administration is working. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>According to your reporting, Helen, the State Department has already

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<v Speaker 2>revoked more than six hundred visas worldwide as part of

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<v Speaker 2>this effort. And so what you're telling us is that

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<v Speaker 2>the President communicated I'm not putting up with this anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>His administration took concrete actions, and now the word on

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<v Speaker 2>the street in China is we can't get away from

0:33:44.560 --> 0:33:48.600
<v Speaker 2>we can't get away with this anymore. So basically the

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<v Speaker 2>actions are working, but also the news is spreading on

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<v Speaker 2>the ground in China.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that right? Yes, basically believe it or not, Scott,

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<v Speaker 3>if you inforced existing law, actually you will deter you know,

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<v Speaker 3>unlawful behaviors. So imagine not against the law to yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>exactly right. It's not against the law to give burst

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<v Speaker 3>about you United States, but it is stated in US

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<v Speaker 3>law it is against the US immigration law that if

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<v Speaker 3>you apply for tourists with specific purpose to come to

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<v Speaker 3>us to give burst that is always against the law,

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<v Speaker 3>and with a little bit of enforcement, and that deter

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<v Speaker 3>is the fact is very obvious.

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<v Speaker 4>All right.

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<v Speaker 2>The writer is Helen Raleigh, and I would recommend you

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<v Speaker 2>check her out at the Federalists the Federalist dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>Her latest headline is Chinese social media chatter indicates Trump's

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<v Speaker 2>birth tourism crackdown is starting to work. Helen, I'm really

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<v Speaker 2>grateful that you wrote this piece because oftentimes, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>our government announces things and we hear it and we say, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>that sounds like a good idea, But how many times

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<v Speaker 2>do we ever say, well, what happened with And in

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<v Speaker 2>this case, you followed up on it and you found out.

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<v Speaker 4>That visas are being revoked.

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<v Speaker 2>You have people who were trying to violate our laws

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<v Speaker 2>being turned away at the border. And because of all

0:35:11.120 --> 0:35:14.480
<v Speaker 2>these actions, the word is out on Chinese social media.

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<v Speaker 2>The United States isn't playing this game anymore. They mean

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<v Speaker 2>what they say that they're not going to put up

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<v Speaker 2>with this birth tourism in the crackdown is working. Helen Raleigh,

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<v Speaker 2>thanks for coming on the show. We look forward to

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<v Speaker 2>having you again.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, that was Helen Raleigh from the Federal I

0:35:32.520 --> 0:35:35.760
<v Speaker 2>love it when we get new writers Hollywood. Sean Helen

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<v Speaker 2>making her debut here with a great story. We'll have

0:35:38.080 --> 0:35:41.120
<v Speaker 2>Helen back. And we're always grateful for the journalists out

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<v Speaker 2>there bringing good information to the American people.

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<v Speaker 4>More news after this.

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<v Speaker 2>Stay with us portion of this God Jedi Show our

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<v Speaker 2>sponsored in part by Americans for Prosperity. All right, welcome

0:35:51.600 --> 0:35:54.200
<v Speaker 2>back to common Sense for the American people. Quick check

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<v Speaker 2>at the headlines here on Monday, August the twenty fourth,

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<v Speaker 2>let's check in on the Texas Senate race. James tall Rico,

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<v Speaker 2>the Democrat candidate there, doesn't just hate poll watchers. He

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<v Speaker 2>hates voter ID. Voter ID, he says, he hates it.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's listen to some new video just into the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Cut number ten.

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<v Speaker 10>In that voter suppression bill, still an immoral, anti American,

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<v Speaker 10>anti Democratic bill, one that I hate with every fiber

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<v Speaker 10>of my being. But I knew that my job as

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<v Speaker 10>a member of the minority is to do harm mitigation,

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<v Speaker 10>and so by coming back, we were able to remove

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<v Speaker 10>some of the worst parts to the bill, the ban

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<v Speaker 10>on souls to the polls, the provisions that would make

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<v Speaker 10>it easier to overturn the election, taking some of these

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<v Speaker 10>federal penalties, these felony penalties, and bringing them down to misdemeanors,

0:36:46.520 --> 0:36:49.040
<v Speaker 10>requiring that these poll watchers, who I don't think should

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<v Speaker 10>be in the polling place at all, but if they're

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<v Speaker 10>going to be there, we were able to ensure that

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<v Speaker 10>they at least have mandated election code training so that

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<v Speaker 10>they don't have an excuse of saying they didn't know

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<v Speaker 10>the election code before they violate.

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<v Speaker 2>James Tallericoke, a Democrat candidate for Senate down in Texas,

0:37:04.480 --> 0:37:09.000
<v Speaker 2>says he hates voter ID with every fiber of his being.

0:37:09.400 --> 0:37:13.640
<v Speaker 2>Murder trial of Lendsey Clancy has become a national debate

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<v Speaker 2>over things like postpartum psychosis, prescription drugs, and criminal responsibility.

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<v Speaker 2>Amid that debate, some people are reminding us that we

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<v Speaker 2>can never forget these three young victims in this case.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go over the core event. It happened January twenty fourth,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty three and Duxbury, Massachusetts. The victims here a

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<v Speaker 2>five year old Cora, a three year old dawson, and

0:37:36.560 --> 0:37:40.520
<v Speaker 2>an eight month old Callen. Lendsy Clancy strangled the children

0:37:40.640 --> 0:37:44.480
<v Speaker 2>using exercise bands while her husband was out of the

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<v Speaker 2>house picking up takeout. She then slashed her own wrists

0:37:47.480 --> 0:37:50.280
<v Speaker 2>and neck and jumped out of a second story window

0:37:50.880 --> 0:37:53.239
<v Speaker 2>in a suicide attempt. She survived that fall, but it

0:37:53.360 --> 0:37:57.400
<v Speaker 2>left her paralyzed from the chest down. Clancy has pleaded

0:37:57.440 --> 0:38:00.960
<v Speaker 2>not guilty. Her defense does not just that she killed

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<v Speaker 2>the children, but the central question of the trial is

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<v Speaker 2>her state of mind. Defense arguing she is not guilty

0:38:08.480 --> 0:38:12.360
<v Speaker 2>by reason of insanity. The prosecution argues she is fully

0:38:12.800 --> 0:38:16.920
<v Speaker 2>fully responsible for first degree murder. They contend she acted rationally,

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<v Speaker 2>deliberately and methodically tricking her husband into leaving the house

0:38:20.520 --> 0:38:23.640
<v Speaker 2>to carry out a planned act because she wanted to

0:38:23.800 --> 0:38:26.440
<v Speaker 2>escape her life. So what's going on with the trial

0:38:26.520 --> 0:38:30.719
<v Speaker 2>right now? The defense recently rested its case after weeks

0:38:30.760 --> 0:38:35.400
<v Speaker 2>of emotional testimony for medical experts, family members, and the husband,

0:38:35.400 --> 0:38:38.800
<v Speaker 2>Patrick Clancy, and the trial is nearing its final stages

0:38:39.480 --> 0:38:42.480
<v Speaker 2>with closing arguments. To discuss all of this, as our

0:38:42.520 --> 0:38:47.439
<v Speaker 2>friend Lilah Rose, the founder and president of Live Action,

0:38:47.600 --> 0:38:51.239
<v Speaker 2>a national pro life organization, Lila, welcome back into the

0:38:51.239 --> 0:38:52.400
<v Speaker 2>Scott Jennings Show.

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<v Speaker 4>We have not covered this trial on the show. Lila.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been watching the national discourse unfold. But I'm curious,

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<v Speaker 2>how do you see things with this Clancy murder trial.

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<v Speaker 11>Thank you, Scott, thank you for having me on. You know,

0:39:06.719 --> 0:39:10.000
<v Speaker 11>it's such a devastating case, and that's why it's captured

0:39:10.040 --> 0:39:12.840
<v Speaker 11>the attention of really all of America and beyond. And

0:39:12.880 --> 0:39:16.680
<v Speaker 11>you have millions of American mothers, especially tuning in. And

0:39:17.000 --> 0:39:20.840
<v Speaker 11>there's a real harsh divide in how people are responding

0:39:20.880 --> 0:39:24.040
<v Speaker 11>to this case, and understandably so. On the one hand,

0:39:24.080 --> 0:39:27.359
<v Speaker 11>you have people who say this is completely unconscionable, that

0:39:27.560 --> 0:39:31.480
<v Speaker 11>this was done, This is barbaric acts against children. You know,

0:39:31.560 --> 0:39:35.319
<v Speaker 11>strangulation of little ones takes multiple minutes. It's a very

0:39:35.440 --> 0:39:38.600
<v Speaker 11>they say, intimate act of violence. She would have had

0:39:38.640 --> 0:39:42.200
<v Speaker 11>to have been, you know, operating consistently to accomplish the

0:39:42.239 --> 0:39:44.840
<v Speaker 11>act in such a horrific way to strangle a child

0:39:44.920 --> 0:39:47.920
<v Speaker 11>one by one, three one after the next, and that,

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<v Speaker 11>of course she needs to be held criminally responsible for

0:39:52.040 --> 0:39:56.680
<v Speaker 11>these you know, unthinkable actions. And then there's another party.

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<v Speaker 11>Right now we're seeing actually protests outside the court. How

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<v Speaker 11>right now, women standing there saying basically we are lindsay too,

0:40:04.920 --> 0:40:08.080
<v Speaker 11>you have you know, the TikTok internet salutes and Mama

0:40:08.120 --> 0:40:12.000
<v Speaker 11>sluts online saying that no, Lindsay's not culpable whatsoever. She's

0:40:12.040 --> 0:40:14.399
<v Speaker 11>a victim of the medical system who failed her care

0:40:14.480 --> 0:40:17.960
<v Speaker 11>with her postpart of depression, impossible psychosis, and she should

0:40:17.960 --> 0:40:21.360
<v Speaker 11>not be held liable whatsoever, even blaming her husband, or

0:40:21.360 --> 0:40:24.520
<v Speaker 11>blaming the medical establishment, or blaming others. And you know

0:40:24.600 --> 0:40:27.000
<v Speaker 11>what this case really tells me. You know, we'll find

0:40:27.040 --> 0:40:29.920
<v Speaker 11>out this week. Likely the jury will be determining, you

0:40:29.960 --> 0:40:33.080
<v Speaker 11>know what, they're where they're stand in the next few days.

0:40:33.080 --> 0:40:36.560
<v Speaker 11>But what I think this case really shows is increasingly

0:40:36.600 --> 0:40:40.719
<v Speaker 11>an adult centric culture where we do not take the

0:40:40.800 --> 0:40:44.400
<v Speaker 11>suffering of children seriously enough. And you know, my background

0:40:44.560 --> 0:40:48.319
<v Speaker 11>leading Live Action is fighting abortion, advocating for life. You

0:40:48.360 --> 0:40:51.279
<v Speaker 11>have a million abortions every year, a million American women

0:40:51.440 --> 0:40:53.960
<v Speaker 11>choosing abortion, and they think it's altruistic. Many of them

0:40:53.960 --> 0:40:55.960
<v Speaker 11>they think they're ending the lives of their child, their

0:40:56.000 --> 0:40:59.080
<v Speaker 11>unborn children, for good reason, that this child wouldn't have

0:40:59.080 --> 0:41:04.719
<v Speaker 11>had a good life. Lindsay explicitly told multiple professionals and

0:41:04.760 --> 0:41:07.799
<v Speaker 11>others after the slayings that she thought that this was

0:41:07.840 --> 0:41:09.440
<v Speaker 11>best for them. I mean, this was kind of her

0:41:09.520 --> 0:41:11.920
<v Speaker 11>rationale because she was not going to be able to

0:41:11.960 --> 0:41:13.960
<v Speaker 11>be there for them because she was going to commit suicide.

0:41:14.080 --> 0:41:17.440
<v Speaker 11>And so there's a term called altruistic philicide that's being used.

0:41:17.960 --> 0:41:20.600
<v Speaker 11>But at the heart of it is a narcissistic view

0:41:20.840 --> 0:41:24.839
<v Speaker 11>that we as mothers or parents have total control over

0:41:24.840 --> 0:41:27.560
<v Speaker 11>our children and can decide their fates, kill them if

0:41:27.560 --> 0:41:30.719
<v Speaker 11>we please, in even their best interests. And that's the

0:41:30.800 --> 0:41:33.160
<v Speaker 11>narrative that concerns me the most. Scott and what I

0:41:33.320 --> 0:41:36.040
<v Speaker 11>have authored a our essay on this that's been making

0:41:36.040 --> 0:41:39.839
<v Speaker 11>the rounds. When we put the suffering of adults over

0:41:39.880 --> 0:41:42.080
<v Speaker 11>the suffering of children as more important, we ignore the

0:41:42.400 --> 0:41:45.280
<v Speaker 11>chaos that we're creating for children, and even the murder

0:41:45.280 --> 0:41:47.840
<v Speaker 11>of children, and we say, oh, the mother's a perpetual victim,

0:41:47.880 --> 0:41:50.319
<v Speaker 11>and it's understandable that she did this, And I think

0:41:50.360 --> 0:41:52.919
<v Speaker 11>that is a mistake. And so my position is that

0:41:53.360 --> 0:41:57.200
<v Speaker 11>it's devastating. Women need support. Postpartum depression is real, that's

0:41:57.239 --> 0:42:00.760
<v Speaker 11>all true, But we cannot forget the number one victim

0:42:00.840 --> 0:42:03.960
<v Speaker 11>in this case. It's not Lindsay, it's Cora, Dolphin and Colin,

0:42:04.280 --> 0:42:07.280
<v Speaker 11>and they should be here today and their lives mattered

0:42:07.320 --> 0:42:09.080
<v Speaker 11>and they need justice.

0:42:09.440 --> 0:42:14.560
<v Speaker 2>Llila, is it your view that this culture of a

0:42:14.640 --> 0:42:17.920
<v Speaker 2>callousness or an indifference to life that has you know,

0:42:18.680 --> 0:42:21.320
<v Speaker 2>populated our culture in the United States and really in

0:42:21.560 --> 0:42:24.640
<v Speaker 2>other cultures around the world, and it's sort of the

0:42:24.640 --> 0:42:29.240
<v Speaker 2>culture of abortion. Is that what led to this situation

0:42:29.320 --> 0:42:31.640
<v Speaker 2>that we're in today where people just seem to want

0:42:31.640 --> 0:42:35.840
<v Speaker 2>to think it's okay to devalue or disregard the lives

0:42:35.840 --> 0:42:38.040
<v Speaker 2>of young children. I mean, it stands to reason if

0:42:38.080 --> 0:42:40.680
<v Speaker 2>you don't think a baby at seven, eight or nine

0:42:40.760 --> 0:42:43.919
<v Speaker 2>months should be that shouldn't be considered valuable life, why

0:42:43.920 --> 0:42:46.920
<v Speaker 2>would you consider children, you know, just on the other

0:42:46.960 --> 0:42:49.239
<v Speaker 2>side of those numbers to be valuable. Do you see

0:42:49.239 --> 0:42:53.840
<v Speaker 2>the connection between sort of this culture of anti life

0:42:54.080 --> 0:42:56.560
<v Speaker 2>people and how they're reacting to this Clancy murder trial?

0:42:57.480 --> 0:42:59.880
<v Speaker 11>Yes, I do, and I think you can absolutely have

0:43:00.080 --> 0:43:04.000
<v Speaker 11>compassion for women and mothers and acknowledged postpartum depression is real.

0:43:04.920 --> 0:43:08.480
<v Speaker 11>Lindsay Clancy clearly had a number of, you know, mental

0:43:08.520 --> 0:43:11.520
<v Speaker 11>health issues, but mental health issues which unfortunately, you know,

0:43:12.120 --> 0:43:14.600
<v Speaker 11>it's a fourth to well third of mothers today are

0:43:14.680 --> 0:43:17.120
<v Speaker 11>taking some sort of anti psychiatric drug or some other

0:43:17.239 --> 0:43:20.839
<v Speaker 11>drug to address mental health or anxiety. That's become all

0:43:20.880 --> 0:43:24.880
<v Speaker 11>the norm today, But that doesn't take away moral responsibility,

0:43:25.239 --> 0:43:28.200
<v Speaker 11>and that doesn't mean that then the mother is the victim,

0:43:28.239 --> 0:43:29.879
<v Speaker 11>even to the point where she may take the life

0:43:29.880 --> 0:43:31.640
<v Speaker 11>of the children, but she's still the victim and the

0:43:31.640 --> 0:43:33.719
<v Speaker 11>one that deserves the empathy and the sympathy, and the

0:43:33.800 --> 0:43:36.399
<v Speaker 11>children are just sort of the collateral, you know, for

0:43:36.480 --> 0:43:39.960
<v Speaker 11>her mental illness. Like, we need to still assert that

0:43:40.120 --> 0:43:43.279
<v Speaker 11>moral responsibility exists for parents even when the parents may

0:43:43.280 --> 0:43:45.919
<v Speaker 11>be struggling, which at some point every parent is going

0:43:45.960 --> 0:43:48.200
<v Speaker 11>to struggle, right, so we need to come up with

0:43:48.239 --> 0:43:53.000
<v Speaker 11>good solutions for mothers, better postpartum care. I think we

0:43:53.040 --> 0:43:58.400
<v Speaker 11>need to hold back on the over prescription of antipsychotic medications. Unfortunately,

0:43:58.400 --> 0:44:01.920
<v Speaker 11>the current medical system does, I believe, over prescribe these

0:44:02.400 --> 0:44:07.120
<v Speaker 11>anti psychotic drugs. I mean, Joseph wit Dooring is a

0:44:07.160 --> 0:44:10.120
<v Speaker 11>wonderful psychiatrist, and he works with the Taper Clinic to

0:44:10.160 --> 0:44:12.000
<v Speaker 11>try to get people off these meds because they can

0:44:12.040 --> 0:44:15.160
<v Speaker 11>have terrible side effects that can be very destructive. All

0:44:15.239 --> 0:44:18.319
<v Speaker 11>of that is true, But what is also true and

0:44:18.560 --> 0:44:21.000
<v Speaker 11>very important and often missed I think in the coverage

0:44:21.000 --> 0:44:23.480
<v Speaker 11>of this case and the response for many unfortunately women

0:44:23.560 --> 0:44:27.040
<v Speaker 11>even is that those little children should be here, and

0:44:27.080 --> 0:44:33.360
<v Speaker 11>they were murdered intentionally and methodically. And despite the medical

0:44:33.440 --> 0:44:36.880
<v Speaker 11>challenges the mother was facing, she had never been diagnosed

0:44:36.920 --> 0:44:39.600
<v Speaker 11>with psychosis. She was never diagnosed. But that wasn't like

0:44:39.640 --> 0:44:42.120
<v Speaker 11>she was constantly hearing voices and reporting that. The first

0:44:42.120 --> 0:44:44.960
<v Speaker 11>time she reported hearing voices, Lindsay plancy of reported hearing

0:44:45.040 --> 0:44:47.840
<v Speaker 11>voices was after the slayings of her children and it

0:44:47.880 --> 0:44:49.839
<v Speaker 11>was kind of an excuse to her husband for why

0:44:49.880 --> 0:44:52.400
<v Speaker 11>she did this unthinkable act. So all to say is

0:44:52.840 --> 0:44:56.360
<v Speaker 11>these children deserve justice and mothers need helpful things are true.

0:44:57.600 --> 0:45:00.439
<v Speaker 2>Lyla Rose is the founder and president of the life

0:45:00.520 --> 0:45:03.520
<v Speaker 2>organization called Live Action. She's the host of the Lyla

0:45:03.680 --> 0:45:07.200
<v Speaker 2>Rose Show. She's been closely following the case. Lylah, thanks

0:45:07.239 --> 0:45:09.360
<v Speaker 2>for your reporting on this today. I guess in the

0:45:09.360 --> 0:45:11.920
<v Speaker 2>next few days we'll see how this turns out and

0:45:12.560 --> 0:45:14.840
<v Speaker 2>what the jury decides to do with it. We're going

0:45:14.920 --> 0:45:17.439
<v Speaker 2>to take a break. More news when we come back,

0:45:17.480 --> 0:45:20.359
<v Speaker 2>including a little more audio from Scott Bessant cracking down

0:45:20.360 --> 0:45:21.440
<v Speaker 2>on IRAN today.

0:45:21.800 --> 0:45:23.200
<v Speaker 4>Right after this, stay with the.

0:45:23.280 --> 0:45:27.880
<v Speaker 1>Voice of reason, common sense for the American people. This

0:45:27.920 --> 0:45:29.200
<v Speaker 1>is the Scott Jenny.

0:45:28.920 --> 0:45:33.160
<v Speaker 2>Show, all Right, Monday, August It's twenty fourth. Tracking some

0:45:33.280 --> 0:45:35.880
<v Speaker 2>breaking news today here on the Scott Jenny Show. The

0:45:36.080 --> 0:45:44.000
<v Speaker 2>Treasury Secretary Scott Bessant has launched crippling, crippling sanctions against

0:45:44.160 --> 0:45:48.880
<v Speaker 2>the Iranian regime and any countries and entities that do

0:45:49.080 --> 0:45:53.200
<v Speaker 2>business with Iran. This is an attempt to bring the

0:45:53.280 --> 0:45:59.280
<v Speaker 2>country fully to heal absent renewed military strikes. So this plan,

0:45:59.440 --> 0:46:03.240
<v Speaker 2>Scott best is calling economic d Day. This will ratchet

0:46:03.320 --> 0:46:06.920
<v Speaker 2>up pressure on the Iranian regime to come back to

0:46:06.960 --> 0:46:12.000
<v Speaker 2>the table and make a deal. These secondary sanctions essentially

0:46:12.040 --> 0:46:13.240
<v Speaker 2>they're tracking.

0:46:12.840 --> 0:46:14.600
<v Speaker 4>Every dollar all over the world.

0:46:14.719 --> 0:46:19.719
<v Speaker 2>And Scott Besson says, let there be no ambiguity as

0:46:19.719 --> 0:46:22.400
<v Speaker 2>to the position of the United States, and economic engagement

0:46:22.400 --> 0:46:26.360
<v Speaker 2>of any kind with this murderous regime will expose those

0:46:26.480 --> 0:46:30.600
<v Speaker 2>responsible to the full reach of American power. No one

0:46:30.760 --> 0:46:35.680
<v Speaker 2>is above this. This is economic asphyxiation of this regime,

0:46:35.840 --> 0:46:40.319
<v Speaker 2>and no one should test our resolve. Let's hear more

0:46:40.360 --> 0:46:42.080
<v Speaker 2>from Scott Besson and cut sixteen.

0:46:42.520 --> 0:46:46.719
<v Speaker 6>Aron Nelfaous is a very clear choice with only two

0:46:46.760 --> 0:46:52.520
<v Speaker 6>paths before them, complete global isolation and a subsistenced economy,

0:46:53.160 --> 0:46:56.640
<v Speaker 6>or a path back to normalcy with an opportunity to

0:46:56.719 --> 0:47:02.600
<v Speaker 6>rejoin the global economy. Today, we're launching Operation Economic Outcasts

0:47:02.640 --> 0:47:07.600
<v Speaker 6>to foreclose every other option available to the Iranian regime.

0:47:08.719 --> 0:47:13.960
<v Speaker 6>Treasury has mapped every node, every facilitator, and every network

0:47:14.160 --> 0:47:17.759
<v Speaker 6>that Iran has used to smuggle oil and evade sanctions.

0:47:18.719 --> 0:47:23.200
<v Speaker 6>Beginning today, the actions of Treasury and other agencies will

0:47:23.239 --> 0:47:27.160
<v Speaker 6>tighten the noose and block every potential source of revenue

0:47:27.520 --> 0:47:32.399
<v Speaker 6>that funds the IRGC and the evil Iranian regime. We're

0:47:32.520 --> 0:47:36.320
<v Speaker 6>enforcing a zero leakage approach. There will be no minimal

0:47:36.360 --> 0:47:39.960
<v Speaker 6>breathing space for the regime to rebuild this capacity to

0:47:40.040 --> 0:47:43.280
<v Speaker 6>inflict terror against America and the world.

0:47:45.560 --> 0:47:50.800
<v Speaker 2>Really an announcement of resolve and upgraded enforcement from Scott

0:47:50.880 --> 0:47:53.720
<v Speaker 2>Vessent today. There's already a lot of sanctions on Iran,

0:47:54.719 --> 0:47:59.320
<v Speaker 2>but they've really, in some ways only been partially enforced.

0:47:59.600 --> 0:48:01.680
<v Speaker 2>And what the United States is going to have to

0:48:01.719 --> 0:48:05.520
<v Speaker 2>do here is mobilize all of its Western allies to

0:48:05.719 --> 0:48:11.760
<v Speaker 2>form effectively a coalition to fully enforce all these sanctions now.

0:48:12.040 --> 0:48:12.960
<v Speaker 4>In order to do this.

0:48:14.040 --> 0:48:16.879
<v Speaker 2>In order to do this, the Trump administration is going

0:48:16.920 --> 0:48:21.439
<v Speaker 2>to have to talk to, or confront, or cajole or

0:48:21.480 --> 0:48:31.080
<v Speaker 2>threaten countries like China, Russia, India, Pakistan, Cutter Turkey and

0:48:31.239 --> 0:48:35.440
<v Speaker 2>others who still trade with Iran. We haven't done that

0:48:35.520 --> 0:48:38.279
<v Speaker 2>so far, but that would be the next step. If

0:48:38.320 --> 0:48:41.120
<v Speaker 2>you fully want to choke off the Iranian regime, you'd

0:48:41.160 --> 0:48:44.919
<v Speaker 2>have to talk to those folks. The state of play

0:48:44.960 --> 0:48:49.200
<v Speaker 2>here is interesting. The political state of play in the

0:48:49.280 --> 0:48:53.640
<v Speaker 2>United States is that the war is unpopular, and the Democrats,

0:48:54.840 --> 0:48:59.680
<v Speaker 2>because of their craven political position, are trying to convince

0:48:59.719 --> 0:49:02.000
<v Speaker 2>the American people that we've lost the war. In fact,

0:49:02.000 --> 0:49:04.799
<v Speaker 2>the opposite is true. We've destroyed their military, We've taken

0:49:04.800 --> 0:49:08.719
<v Speaker 2>away their defense industrial complex, We've set their nuclear program

0:49:08.760 --> 0:49:12.840
<v Speaker 2>back decades, we sunk their navy. Now we're choking off

0:49:13.400 --> 0:49:16.080
<v Speaker 2>all of their ability to sell oil and really trade

0:49:16.120 --> 0:49:21.080
<v Speaker 2>anywhere else. I mean, we have, by all measurements, won

0:49:21.520 --> 0:49:24.120
<v Speaker 2>this war. We're just waiting for President Trump to come

0:49:24.160 --> 0:49:29.040
<v Speaker 2>before the American people and formalize it. The Iranian economy

0:49:29.160 --> 0:49:34.359
<v Speaker 2>is in crisis. As of this morning, the currency in

0:49:34.400 --> 0:49:38.840
<v Speaker 2>Iran was two million to one US dollar two million

0:49:39.800 --> 0:49:43.600
<v Speaker 2>to one. This naval blockade of the United States has

0:49:43.719 --> 0:49:47.720
<v Speaker 2>prevented Iran from exporting its oil that's the life blood

0:49:47.760 --> 0:49:49.640
<v Speaker 2>of their economy. By the way, this is how they

0:49:49.680 --> 0:49:54.600
<v Speaker 2>make money. And the US naval blockade has been nothing

0:49:54.680 --> 0:50:00.840
<v Speaker 2>short of beautiful, of expert and cutting off off Iran's

0:50:00.880 --> 0:50:06.799
<v Speaker 2>ability to export any oil. And Iran is having a

0:50:06.800 --> 0:50:10.080
<v Speaker 2>really hard time going around it. You know, if you

0:50:10.120 --> 0:50:12.720
<v Speaker 2>were in Iran's position, you might say, well, well, maybe

0:50:13.560 --> 0:50:16.800
<v Speaker 2>find other routes over land or other ways out via water.

0:50:17.280 --> 0:50:19.799
<v Speaker 2>They can't do it. They can't do it, which then

0:50:20.360 --> 0:50:25.040
<v Speaker 2>in turn is cutting off their ability to provide basic

0:50:25.120 --> 0:50:28.600
<v Speaker 2>functions and goods and services to their people. So all

0:50:28.640 --> 0:50:31.840
<v Speaker 2>of this is happening. That's driving up inflation in Iran,

0:50:31.920 --> 0:50:38.400
<v Speaker 2>that's driving up food prices. So by any reasonable measurement,

0:50:39.640 --> 0:50:43.720
<v Speaker 2>we have defeated Iran militarily. We have defeated them diplomatically

0:50:44.360 --> 0:50:48.640
<v Speaker 2>because we've allied the entire Gulf region against them, we

0:50:48.719 --> 0:50:52.520
<v Speaker 2>have defeated them economically every possible way you can defeat somebody.

0:50:53.320 --> 0:50:56.520
<v Speaker 2>We have defeated these people in what Vescent is announcing today,

0:50:57.560 --> 0:51:00.759
<v Speaker 2>of course, is sort of the last thing you would

0:51:00.800 --> 0:51:04.680
<v Speaker 2>do to fully run this regime into the ground. Hopefully

0:51:04.680 --> 0:51:07.719
<v Speaker 2>they see the position they're in and decide I'd like

0:51:07.800 --> 0:51:11.480
<v Speaker 2>to come back to the table and end this conflict.

0:51:11.520 --> 0:51:13.160
<v Speaker 4>On our terms.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's talk about the documentary. You've heard us

0:51:15.920 --> 0:51:19.680
<v Speaker 2>talking about it here. It's this can You Hear Me Now? Documentary?

0:51:20.160 --> 0:51:24.280
<v Speaker 2>What makes it special? What makes it special is that Charlie,

0:51:24.600 --> 0:51:29.000
<v Speaker 2>our friend, Charlie sat down for one of his final interviews,

0:51:29.040 --> 0:51:31.920
<v Speaker 2>just two weeks before he died, to wrestle with this

0:51:32.000 --> 0:51:36.520
<v Speaker 2>timeless question does God still Speak Today? And the footage

0:51:36.520 --> 0:51:40.120
<v Speaker 2>of that interview in the hands of director Matthew Thayer,

0:51:40.760 --> 0:51:43.960
<v Speaker 2>turned into this film Can You Hear Me Now? You

0:51:44.000 --> 0:51:48.960
<v Speaker 2>can go to Salemnow dot com Salemnow dot com and

0:51:49.239 --> 0:51:51.800
<v Speaker 2>pre order the movie. You also get a free DVD

0:51:52.520 --> 0:51:53.960
<v Speaker 2>if you do it that way. I think that's how

0:51:53.960 --> 0:51:55.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna do at Hollywood, Sean. I'm going to go

0:51:55.719 --> 0:51:58.879
<v Speaker 2>to Salemnow dot com and pre order. But I want

0:51:58.880 --> 0:52:01.520
<v Speaker 2>to see what Charlie had say one of his last interviews.

0:52:02.000 --> 0:52:05.040
<v Speaker 2>Part of this new documentary can You Hear Me Now?

0:52:05.080 --> 0:52:08.520
<v Speaker 2>We take a break. Pollster Natalie Jackson on the other sides, David.

0:52:08.760 --> 0:52:13.400
<v Speaker 1>Conversation said stories you simply won't hear from the mainstream media.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the Scott Jenny.

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<v Speaker 2>Show, Monday, August the twenty fourth. Back in the chair

0:52:21.120 --> 0:52:25.280
<v Speaker 2>here in Louisville, Hollywood, Sewan. I spent my whole weekend

0:52:25.400 --> 0:52:30.320
<v Speaker 2>moving around. I flew to Des Moines, Iowa, and appeared

0:52:30.400 --> 0:52:34.520
<v Speaker 2>at a big event with our friends at Americans for Prosperity.

0:52:34.880 --> 0:52:37.400
<v Speaker 4>I met Enis Canter Freedom.

0:52:37.640 --> 0:52:41.520
<v Speaker 2>By the way, I met the greatest women's basketball player alive,

0:52:42.719 --> 0:52:44.840
<v Speaker 2>Enus Canter Freedom.

0:52:45.520 --> 0:52:46.120
<v Speaker 4>Nice guy.

0:52:46.800 --> 0:52:49.719
<v Speaker 2>And then I see after he met me, he went

0:52:49.760 --> 0:52:52.319
<v Speaker 2>off and got thrown out of a WNBA game the

0:52:52.360 --> 0:52:56.879
<v Speaker 2>other day. Can't take that guy anywhere. Then after that,

0:52:57.160 --> 0:52:59.640
<v Speaker 2>I got on an airplane and flew back to Washington,

0:52:59.719 --> 0:53:03.879
<v Speaker 2>d C. Got back there in the middle of the night,

0:53:03.960 --> 0:53:05.759
<v Speaker 2>woke up Sunday morning. I had to go on and

0:53:05.800 --> 0:53:09.480
<v Speaker 2>take my beatings on CNN. And while I was doing that,

0:53:10.360 --> 0:53:14.560
<v Speaker 2>they were getting ready for the Grand Prix and the

0:53:14.680 --> 0:53:16.760
<v Speaker 2>loudest noises I've ever heard.

0:53:16.560 --> 0:53:18.040
<v Speaker 4>In my life.

0:53:18.239 --> 0:53:23.600
<v Speaker 2>Hollywood sewn these flyovers. They had jets and bombers. These

0:53:23.640 --> 0:53:25.719
<v Speaker 2>things were as close to the ground as you could

0:53:25.760 --> 0:53:32.080
<v Speaker 2>possibly be. And I'm there trying to do my television

0:53:32.120 --> 0:53:37.000
<v Speaker 2>and have a little breakfast in between. The dishes were rattling,

0:53:37.400 --> 0:53:39.480
<v Speaker 2>the forks were rattling. It's how loud it was, but

0:53:39.520 --> 0:53:42.800
<v Speaker 2>it sounds like the Grand Prix went off without a

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<v Speaker 2>hitch and it was a great success for the Freedom

0:53:46.880 --> 0:53:51.120
<v Speaker 2>two fifty celebrations. So congratulations to Trump and his people

0:53:51.160 --> 0:53:54.920
<v Speaker 2>for getting that Grand Prix race there in Washington, d C.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's talk about data centers and what is

0:54:01.360 --> 0:54:05.480
<v Speaker 2>going on with public opinion around data centers. As you know,

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<v Speaker 2>America's artificial boom is driving a rapid expansion of data centers,

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<v Speaker 2>but new polling shows growing resistance from communities who worry

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<v Speaker 2>about things like higher electric bills, water use, and environmental

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<v Speaker 2>impacts in neighborhoods. Joining us to discuss all of this

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<v Speaker 2>is thank goodness, somebody who knows what's going on is here.

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<v Speaker 2>We've been on the air for an hour and a

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<v Speaker 2>half and finally somebody who knows what's going on is here.

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<v Speaker 2>Natalie Jackson, the founder of Centerline Research, is here. She's

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<v Speaker 2>also a columnist for National Journal. Long time, long time polster. Nat,

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to the Scott Jennings Show. Welcome back. I should

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<v Speaker 2>say you wrote a column that you published this morning

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<v Speaker 2>in the National Journal about these data centers and what's

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<v Speaker 2>going on with public opinion.

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<v Speaker 4>What can you tell us?

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<v Speaker 12>Well, thanks for having me and thanks for calling me old. There,

0:55:04.080 --> 0:55:05.480
<v Speaker 12>long time Polstal.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm calling you old.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying you started your career at a young age,

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<v Speaker 2>and look how far you've come in a very short

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<v Speaker 2>period of time.

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<v Speaker 13>Anyway, go ahead, sure, sure, sure.

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<v Speaker 12>Now I have been doing this for twenty years, so

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<v Speaker 12>it's been a while. Data centers have blown up more negatively,

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<v Speaker 12>more quickly than any one issue I've seen in my career.

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<v Speaker 12>And I've been watching this for well over a year.

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<v Speaker 12>You know, I posted on x I actually took a

0:55:37.760 --> 0:55:40.200
<v Speaker 12>victory lap yesterday because I found the old post where

0:55:40.239 --> 0:55:42.960
<v Speaker 12>I said in December of last year, this is a

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<v Speaker 12>sleeper issue for the midterms, and that has played out.

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<v Speaker 12>People are angry. They don't appreciate having these things coming

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<v Speaker 12>into their territory without you know, appropriate limits and accommodations

0:56:00.880 --> 0:56:04.040
<v Speaker 12>from the companies. And you know, part of the picture

0:56:04.160 --> 0:56:08.879
<v Speaker 12>is that this development really started before there was any

0:56:08.920 --> 0:56:16.920
<v Speaker 12>public input, and so the reaction has been extremely harsh

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<v Speaker 12>toward these companies and these data centers because it feels

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<v Speaker 12>out of control.

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<v Speaker 2>But net I'll play Devil's advocate here against everybody who's

0:56:27.680 --> 0:56:31.319
<v Speaker 2>engaged in this mass hysteria. We've had data centers in

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<v Speaker 2>the United States for decades and now everybody's been out

0:56:36.200 --> 0:56:39.040
<v Speaker 2>of shape about it. Is how much of this, in

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<v Speaker 2>your opinion, has to do with just the rapid spread

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<v Speaker 2>of I think foreign Chinese back propaganda online.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, is that? Where is that? How public opinion

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<v Speaker 4>changed so rapidly in your opinion? Do you know?

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<v Speaker 14>So?

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<v Speaker 13>There are a few things, you know.

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<v Speaker 12>One of the things that I come back to is

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<v Speaker 12>I grew up in extreme rural Texas and there was

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<v Speaker 12>a coal strip mine about half a mile from my

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<v Speaker 12>house and every time the mind blasted stuff would fall

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<v Speaker 12>off the walls, you know, like it was just a

0:57:14.160 --> 0:57:18.080
<v Speaker 12>thing that was part of the landscape of living there.

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<v Speaker 12>And so you know, I compare that to data centers now,

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<v Speaker 12>you know, it's a new form of this infrastructure that

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<v Speaker 12>we need to keep advancing. There are obvious reasons for

0:57:34.480 --> 0:57:39.520
<v Speaker 12>China to want us to slow down. There is a

0:57:39.560 --> 0:57:44.000
<v Speaker 12>lot of misinformation that runs around about particularly the water use,

0:57:44.040 --> 0:57:48.520
<v Speaker 12>the electricity use. You know, I think people don't really

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<v Speaker 12>know who or what to believe on any of this

0:57:51.320 --> 0:57:54.400
<v Speaker 12>because you know, it's hard to believe the companies because

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<v Speaker 12>they are the ones who want to come in.

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<v Speaker 13>And do this.

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<v Speaker 2>The politicians, let me ask you a lot of let

0:57:59.720 --> 0:58:01.760
<v Speaker 2>me ask you about that issue and that because I

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<v Speaker 2>think this is part of this is a hypothesis. You

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<v Speaker 2>tell me if I'm crazy, But I think some of

0:58:06.760 --> 0:58:10.920
<v Speaker 2>what's going on is that people don't trust the technology

0:58:10.960 --> 0:58:14.920
<v Speaker 2>companies or the social media companies whatever. So they don't

0:58:15.160 --> 0:58:19.760
<v Speaker 2>they inherently don't trust or they dislike that. Therefore anything

0:58:19.800 --> 0:58:22.320
<v Speaker 2>connected to that, or if they say, oh, don't worry,

0:58:22.320 --> 0:58:24.720
<v Speaker 2>this is good for you, they're just an inherent amount

0:58:24.760 --> 0:58:28.400
<v Speaker 2>of mistrust there. And so therefore, if you believe a

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<v Speaker 2>data center is aiding and abetting these companies, I already

0:58:31.200 --> 0:58:33.880
<v Speaker 2>don't like. I'm gonna I'm going to be against the

0:58:33.920 --> 0:58:35.840
<v Speaker 2>data centers. Do you do you see that connection to

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<v Speaker 2>my off base here?

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<v Speaker 13>I do?

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<v Speaker 12>You know, we to make a broader point, people don't

0:58:44.360 --> 0:58:47.479
<v Speaker 12>trust much of anything these days. You know, the trust

0:58:47.520 --> 0:58:51.600
<v Speaker 12>a government is very low, Trusting corporations is low, trust

0:58:51.640 --> 0:58:56.320
<v Speaker 12>in other humans is low. You know, we're just existing

0:58:56.320 --> 0:59:01.400
<v Speaker 12>in a low trust society, and so people don't trust

0:59:01.480 --> 0:59:04.400
<v Speaker 12>anyone else to be looking out for them. So that's

0:59:04.440 --> 0:59:08.960
<v Speaker 12>definitely a piece of it. They're worried about their bills,

0:59:09.240 --> 0:59:11.600
<v Speaker 12>you know, a big huge chunk of this ties into

0:59:11.600 --> 0:59:16.560
<v Speaker 12>the affordability debate that we're having around the country. Will

0:59:16.600 --> 0:59:21.640
<v Speaker 12>their utility rates rise? Will they have their property values affected?

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<v Speaker 12>You know, all of these monetary things come into play

0:59:26.800 --> 0:59:29.200
<v Speaker 12>at a time when people are already freaked out about

0:59:29.280 --> 0:59:32.480
<v Speaker 12>rising costs, you know, and have been for the last

0:59:33.040 --> 0:59:34.400
<v Speaker 12>you know, six seven years.

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<v Speaker 2>Matt, I saw a pole the other day and people

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<v Speaker 2>were saying they would rather live next to a coal

0:59:43.320 --> 0:59:48.520
<v Speaker 2>fired power plant than live next to a data center. Now,

0:59:48.960 --> 0:59:51.400
<v Speaker 2>for those of us who are here in Kentucky, our

0:59:51.440 --> 0:59:55.640
<v Speaker 2>eyebrows were raised. We thought, hey, look, opportunity knocks. But

0:59:55.640 --> 0:59:59.480
<v Speaker 2>but I mean, that's that's where we are with this debate.

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<v Speaker 2>People want live next to a coal fired power plant.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they also might have set a nuclear plant

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<v Speaker 2>more than they wanted to live near a data center.

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<v Speaker 4>So I bring that up to ask you this, based.

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<v Speaker 2>On the data that you've seen, how is it possible

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<v Speaker 2>to dig out of this public relations hole? And if so,

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<v Speaker 2>how would you go about it based on what you've

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<v Speaker 2>seen here.

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<v Speaker 12>So this is one of the big problems with how

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<v Speaker 12>public opinion is kind.

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<v Speaker 13>Of being reported right now.

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<v Speaker 12>Most people aren't getting beyond everybody hates this, but there

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<v Speaker 12>is some work that's digging deeper. Echelon Insights did a

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<v Speaker 12>really interesting poll that they released last week where they said,

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<v Speaker 12>do you support or oppose.

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<v Speaker 13>A data center?

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<v Speaker 12>And of course most people said no, you know, they

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<v Speaker 12>oppose it. But then they said, do you support or

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<v Speaker 12>oppose a data center if they're paying all of their costs,

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<v Speaker 12>if they're making sure all of the water is taking

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<v Speaker 12>care of, if they're you know, once you put the

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<v Speaker 12>conditions on it, and these are the things that people want.

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<v Speaker 12>You know, you ask people why they're opposed to the

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<v Speaker 12>data centers, it's the costs, it's this and that. If

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<v Speaker 12>you put those conditions in the survey question, what Echelon

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<v Speaker 12>found was that a majority of people would support the

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<v Speaker 12>data center. So it's really a pathway forward of cooperation

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<v Speaker 12>between communities and the companies. The complicating factor right now

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<v Speaker 12>that is kind of preventing that from happening is the election.

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<v Speaker 12>Politicians running for office right now are responding to the

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<v Speaker 12>overwhelmingly negative sentiment by you know, let's just stop all

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<v Speaker 12>of this, So that makes it a lot more urgent

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<v Speaker 12>and the need for these people running for office to

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<v Speaker 12>take action right now. I think is stepping on the

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<v Speaker 12>ability of this cooperation to start building for everyone to

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<v Speaker 12>move forward. I expect that to get a little bit

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<v Speaker 12>easier once we get over the election hump, at least

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<v Speaker 12>until we start talking about twenty twenty eight.

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<v Speaker 2>I think one of the smart things Trump is doing

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<v Speaker 2>on this is this rate payer protection pledge, This idea

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<v Speaker 2>that a company building one of these things, they would

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<v Speaker 2>have to fully bear the cost of their energy needs,

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<v Speaker 2>their energy infrastructure, so none of this gets passed on.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that was a pretty good idea. I know

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<v Speaker 2>there's legislation moving on that. Do you see any data

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<v Speaker 2>on that when people are described this idea of rate

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<v Speaker 2>payer protection will make them take care of everything, all

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<v Speaker 2>the costs as it relates to hooking up to the

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<v Speaker 2>energy grid.

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<v Speaker 4>Here, I assume that scores well, doesn't it.

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<v Speaker 12>Absolutely? That's exactly what people want. When you ask them

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<v Speaker 12>why they oppose data centers and what would change their mind,

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<v Speaker 12>those are the things that they want, you know. They

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<v Speaker 12>want the data centers and the companies operating them to

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<v Speaker 12>pay for the upgrades to the electrical grids. They want

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<v Speaker 12>them to pay for all of the water outlays, any

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<v Speaker 12>additional electricity that they pull any you know, reasons that

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<v Speaker 12>the rates might go up, and you know in a

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<v Speaker 12>lot of places those those things are being set up.

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<v Speaker 12>You know, in Louisiana there's a data center where Meta

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<v Speaker 12>has paid for all kinds of upgrades to the schools.

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<v Speaker 12>They gave teachers like a fifty thousand dollars bonus, and

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<v Speaker 12>so there are ways for the companies to come in

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<v Speaker 12>and pay for everything still get the benefit, and that

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<v Speaker 12>seems to be what a big chunk of the public wants.

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<v Speaker 13>There are some, of course, the final change their minds.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's my final question for you. I got about

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<v Speaker 2>thirty seconds here. I read that article too. So you've

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<v Speaker 2>basically got locations that are able to do things they've

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<v Speaker 2>never been able to do before, give teachers massive bonuses,

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<v Speaker 2>upgrade education facilities. I suspect you're going to start seeing

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<v Speaker 2>reductions and property taxes and other local tax rates out

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<v Speaker 2>there where you have data centers flowing at a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of revenue.

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<v Speaker 4>Does the public accept this?

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<v Speaker 2>If you get that, will they then change their mind

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<v Speaker 2>based on the data you've seen. I know we've seen

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<v Speaker 2>a massive shift against it, but if those things come

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<v Speaker 2>to pass, you think they can shift back based on

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<v Speaker 2>basic you know, common good type stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 12>It certainly won't move everyone. There are people, there is

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<v Speaker 12>a small slice. It's you know, fifteen to twenty of

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<v Speaker 12>people who are just opposed to everything AI.

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<v Speaker 13>They don't want any of it, all right, want the

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<v Speaker 13>data centers?

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<v Speaker 4>All right?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, well those are sticks in the mud. Everybody else,

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<v Speaker 2>be mindful. Natalie Jackson, Centerline, National journal reader stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll take a break and.

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<v Speaker 1>Be right back at scotch any common sense for the

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<v Speaker 1>American people. This is the Scott Jenny Show.

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<v Speaker 2>All right. We round out the show here on Monday,

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<v Speaker 2>August twenty fourth with some coverage of what I guess

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<v Speaker 2>is going to be a trade war with Canada. Last

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<v Speaker 2>week we told you that President Trump was expressing optimism

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<v Speaker 2>that a deal was on the horizon with the Canadians,

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<v Speaker 2>and then all of a sudden Friday, everything fell apart.

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<v Speaker 2>The White House says the Canadians made a bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>unreasonable last minute demands and the entire thing collapsed. There's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of he said, she said in this but

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<v Speaker 2>today Scott Vessant tore into Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's hear that cut seventeen.

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<v Speaker 13>One Canada to become a state.

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<v Speaker 9>He did say that they're getting all the benefits of

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<v Speaker 9>being a state without being one.

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<v Speaker 6>I think he would like Canada to come to the

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<v Speaker 6>table and negotiating good faith. They were offering quite a

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<v Speaker 6>good deal last week they chose to reject it. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 6>Prime Minister Carnate Carney rose to power on an anti American,

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<v Speaker 6>anti Trump platform. I believe it was more than twenty

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<v Speaker 6>points behind. And you know, he seems to have gone

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<v Speaker 6>back to his old playbook. And I think one has

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<v Speaker 6>to ask oneself, is he trying to benefit himself, the

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<v Speaker 6>Liberal Party or the Canadian people because they were offered

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<v Speaker 6>a very good job.

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<v Speaker 2>So yep, all right, so that was best And now

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<v Speaker 2>I guess Mark Carney, the Prime Minister of Canada, has

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<v Speaker 2>responded Cut eighteen.

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<v Speaker 14>An attitude at the negotiation table that Canada is a

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<v Speaker 14>subsidiary of the United States, the Canadian industry is going

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<v Speaker 14>to be disadvantaged relative to American industry, that we're going

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<v Speaker 14>to set up terms so that over time Canadian industry

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<v Speaker 14>is going to face constant headwinds. That's not something we're

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<v Speaker 14>going to accept. And that's before you get to constraints

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<v Speaker 14>on our to do what the rest of the world wants,

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<v Speaker 14>which is to sign trade deals with Canada.

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<v Speaker 2>And finally, Vice President jd Vance, speaking just a little

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<v Speaker 2>while ago up in Maine, he also had some harsh

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<v Speaker 2>words for the Canadians, issuing this warning to Carney cut twenty.

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<v Speaker 15>But we know that Canada allows itself to be used

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<v Speaker 15>as a backdoor for Chinese goods. They treat Chinese goods

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<v Speaker 15>more fairly than they do the goods that come from

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<v Speaker 15>the people of Maine. It's insanity. And what we've said

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<v Speaker 15>to Canada is stop it. Apply a basic principle of

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<v Speaker 15>fairness to the trade that you're doing between North Dakota

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<v Speaker 15>and Canada, between Maine and Canada. And what happened at

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<v Speaker 15>the very end is that came in with a bunch

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<v Speaker 15>of unreasonable last minute demands.

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<v Speaker 1>I frankly thought we had a deal.

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<v Speaker 15>I think that we should have a deal, But I

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<v Speaker 15>think that we need to send a message loud and

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<v Speaker 15>clear to the Prime Minister of Canada. Stop taking advantage

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<v Speaker 15>of the people of Maine. Stop taking advantag of America.

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<v Speaker 15>Gets over. We expect fairness in our trade policy, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>Natalie Jackson's Center Line strategies Polster and columnists for National

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<v Speaker 2>Journal remains on the line with us here at the

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<v Speaker 2>Scott Jennings Show. Natalie, you're hearing the back and forth.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of this is political posturing. There are key

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<v Speaker 2>Senate races going on in Maine, That's why JD. Vance

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<v Speaker 2>is there. And also in Michigan. Some people are saying

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<v Speaker 2>a trade war is going to hurt Republican chances.

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<v Speaker 4>There.

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<v Speaker 2>You heard Vance try to position the administration on it.

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<v Speaker 2>What's your reaction.

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<v Speaker 12>You know there's also Alaska involved. You know, there's a.

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<v Speaker 13>Huge number of.

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<v Speaker 12>Border miles at stake here, and I think it depends

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<v Speaker 12>on what people see in their wallets. You know, our

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<v Speaker 12>due prices go up by November. You know what's happening

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<v Speaker 12>October November as people voting, I think that has the

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<v Speaker 12>biggest impact on kind of how this situation with Canada

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<v Speaker 12>plays out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, obviously, if people perceive a direct impact

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<v Speaker 2>on their own personal financial situation based on this, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I agree with you. But I guess my question to

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<v Speaker 2>you is as a campaign strategy, I'll give you the

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<v Speaker 2>last word here.

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<v Speaker 4>We're almost at a time.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think voters want to see the administration fighting

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<v Speaker 2>against other countries that you know, they argue we're taking

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<v Speaker 2>advantage of us, or would they just rather see deal announces,

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<v Speaker 2>Oh we have a deal, here's some paper. What what

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<v Speaker 2>do you think is sort of on the minds of voters?

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<v Speaker 2>Fight or deal?

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<v Speaker 13>I think right now it's deal.

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<v Speaker 12>Just given the affordability crisis that a lot of people

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<v Speaker 12>are facing, that we've been talking about for the last

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<v Speaker 12>six years, you know, I think deals that give people

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<v Speaker 12>some stability and assurance that the prices are not going

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<v Speaker 12>to skyrocket again. I think that's as helpful as anything

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<v Speaker 12>right now.

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<v Speaker 11>All right.

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<v Speaker 2>Natalie Jackson is a polster with center line strategies. Read

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<v Speaker 2>her stuff in the National Journal. She publishes a column

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<v Speaker 2>every week about public opinion trends. We're done for the day.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll be back tomorrow. Great show coming up tomorrow, that column,

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<v Speaker 2>this stuff in Seattle. Who got fired over his column,

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<v Speaker 2>The sports Guy. He's going to be with us all

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<v Speaker 2>that more tomorrow on The Scott Jenning Show.

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks for listening.