Speaker 1: The voice of free speech, the truth delivered, common sense
Speaker 1: for the American people. Welcome to the Scott Jennings Show.
Speaker 2: Treasury Secretary Scott Bessant says the United States is launching
Speaker 2: Economic d Day designed to further isolate the Iranian regime
Speaker 2: and to punish countries that continue doing business with it.
Speaker 2: Press conference underway right now in Washington will bring you
Speaker 2: the audio from Bessant as soon as we have it.
Speaker 2: The Trump Administration's fight against drug cartels continues as the
Speaker 2: US military has destroyed a suspected drug smuggling vessel in
Speaker 2: the Eastern Pacific. Two are killed in that attack, and
Speaker 2: democratic infighting continues as House Democrat Leader Hakim Jeffries is
Speaker 2: facing intense criticism from within his own party after privately
Speaker 2: meeting with Jared Kushner. The two met to discuss possible
Speaker 2: bipartisan cooperation on housing, affordability and immigration, but some Democrats
Speaker 2: are none too pleased with Jeffreys over this meeting. It
Speaker 2: is Monday, August twenty fourth. I'm Scott Jennings broadcasting for Salem.
Speaker 3: Men.
Speaker 2: Were coming to you live from Louisville, Kentucky today on
Speaker 2: this day in eighteen fourteen, the British army was marching
Speaker 2: towards Washington. American forces had collapsed at Bladensburg. President James
Speaker 2: Madison fled the Capitol and at the White House. First
Speaker 2: Lady Dolly Madison was being urged to leave before the
Speaker 2: enemy arrived, but she refused to go until one national
Speaker 2: treasure was secured, Gilbert Stewart's full length portrait of George Washington.
Speaker 4: The enormous painting was fastened to the wall.
Speaker 2: There was no time to carefully unscrew it, so at
Speaker 2: Dolly Madison's direction, White House workers broke the frame, removed
Speaker 2: the canvas, and carried President Washington to safety, and only
Speaker 2: then did Dolly Madison escape. Hours later, British troops entered
Speaker 2: the President's house, ate the food that had been left behind,
Speaker 2: and set the building ablaze. They also burned the Capitol
Speaker 2: and other government buildings. Washington was in flames, but the
Speaker 2: portrait of the man who had defeated the British and
Speaker 2: ultimately created the presidency did survive. Dolly Madison saved George
Speaker 2: Washington in the War of eighteen twelve. On this day,
Speaker 2: August twenty fourth, eighteen fourteen, that painting, by the way
Speaker 2: hangs at the National Portrait Gallery in Washington. Always nice
Speaker 2: to stop by and see mister Washington and the other
Speaker 2: presidents when I'm in DC, one of my favorite museums.
Speaker 2: In other news this hour, as I mentioned Scott Bezen
Speaker 2: announcing what he calls Economic d Day for Iran. Bessett
Speaker 2: describes it as the single greatest financial offensive ever marshaled
Speaker 2: against an American adversary. And I believe this announcement may
Speaker 2: confirm something that many in our political class refuse to acknowledge.
Speaker 2: The United States has won the war against Iran. Wars
Speaker 2: are one when one side achieves its strategic objectives and
Speaker 2: the other loses the ability to achieve its own. Iran
Speaker 2: entered this war with four great pillars of strength. It's
Speaker 2: nuclear program, its missiles and drones, its regional terror network,
Speaker 2: and its ability to hold the world economy hostage through
Speaker 2: the strait of war moves. Every one of those pillars
Speaker 2: has been severely damaged or outright destroyed. But Democratic Senator
Speaker 2: Chris Murphy Democratic Senator Chris Murphy sees it differently. Listen
Speaker 2: to him on Meet the Press this weekend. Cut seven.
Speaker 5: Donald Trump has lost this war. America is weaker, Iran
Speaker 5: is stronger. The price to reopen the strait increases by
Speaker 5: the day.
Speaker 2: Even though Iran has lost the war, they haven't lost
Speaker 2: their public relations agency. I see listen to ha Kiem
Speaker 2: Jeffreys cut number eight.
Speaker 6: Donald Chaupen Republicans have plunged America into a reckless and
Speaker 6: costly war of choice that has been a disaster. There
Speaker 6: has been few cases in our lifetime where a president
Speaker 6: started a foreign policy endeavor that has been such a
Speaker 6: colossal failure.
Speaker 2: Democratic Party, it seems, is unified in its desire for
Speaker 2: the American people to believe that we have lost this war,
Speaker 2: even though it's clear the opposite is true. Has Iran
Speaker 2: built a nuclear weapon No, and they couldn't build one
Speaker 2: for decades based on the destruction wrought by the United
Speaker 2: States and Israel. Has Iran defeated the United States military? No,
Speaker 2: quite the opposite. The Navy is fully sunk, The army
Speaker 2: is decimated. Has it driven the United States Navy out
Speaker 2: of the Strait of Hormuz?
Speaker 4: No, our ships travel at will.
Speaker 2: Is Iran able to stop oil from moving in and
Speaker 2: out of the strait?
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 2: In fact, millions of barrels of oil are transiting the
Speaker 2: Strait of Hormos every day more and more every day.
Speaker 2: In fact, the Iranian military has been devastated, its missile
Speaker 2: and drone attacks have dramatically declined, its economy is disintegrating,
Speaker 2: and its neighbors are aligning against it. Yet Chris Murphy
Speaker 2: and a Keen Jeffreys, and Corey Booker and virtually every
Speaker 2: other Democrat wants you to believe that America has lost.
Speaker 2: This is what Trump hatred has done to the Democratic Party.
Speaker 2: If Trump succeeds, it's something anything, then Democrats lose politically.
Speaker 2: So if America wins, Trump receives the credit, so they
Speaker 2: minimize every American excess success, They exaggerate every setback, and
Speaker 2: they declare defeat while our enemy is barely able to survive.
Speaker 2: There's nothing wrong with questioning a war or debating its
Speaker 2: costs and tactics. But there is something deeply wrong with
Speaker 2: allowing partisan hatred to make you so emotionally invested in
Speaker 2: American failure, especially when that leads you to openly lie
Speaker 2: to the American people about what's actually going on here.
Speaker 2: Let's look at the balance sheet. Iran spent decades and
Speaker 2: billions of dollars building, underground missile sites, drone factories, naval shipyards,
Speaker 2: air defenses, revolutionary guard installations. The United States military has
Speaker 2: systematically took it all apart. The Pentagon said months ago
Speaker 2: that Iranian missile and drone attacks had fallen by more
Speaker 2: than ninety percent, and that more than two thirds of
Speaker 2: Iran's missile, drone and naval production facilities and shipyards had
Speaker 2: been damaged or destroyed. Now, Iran may still possess the
Speaker 2: ability to lash out a wounded animal, after all, does
Speaker 2: remain dangerous, but it no longer possesses the military power
Speaker 2: it claimed to have before the war began, and they
Speaker 2: no longer possess the ability to make a nuclear bomb.
Speaker 2: Iran may retain nuclear knowledge, but knowledge is different than
Speaker 2: making a bomb. A bomb requires facilities, machinery, material protection,
Speaker 2: and delivery systems. America has demonstrated that whenever Iran attempts
Speaker 2: to assemble those pieces, we can find them, reach them,
Speaker 2: and destroy them, and that will be true forever. That's
Speaker 2: what we call deterrence, and it's also what we should
Speaker 2: be calling victory. The strait of horror moves. This was
Speaker 2: supposed to be Iran's ultimate weapon. Tehran believed it could
Speaker 2: close the straight choke off the world's energy supply and
Speaker 2: force America to retreat. And in fact, that's what the
Speaker 2: Democrats wanted, full retreat. But what's the situation today? Oil
Speaker 2: is moving. Tankers are crossing through a system coated and
Speaker 2: protected by the US Navy. Iran tried to close the
Speaker 2: world's oil highway, but the United States Navy punched a
Speaker 2: lane right through it and found other ways to get
Speaker 2: oil out of the region. And now comes Economic d
Speaker 2: Day today from Scott Bessen. The administration is dramatically expanding
Speaker 2: secondary sanctions and what that means in plain English is
Speaker 2: that any foreign bank, refinery, shipping company, or government helping
Speaker 2: Iran sell oil or move money will face a choice.
Speaker 2: You can do business with Iran or you can do
Speaker 2: business with the United States, but you cannot do both.
Speaker 2: China purchases more than eighty percent of Iran's shipped oil,
Speaker 2: so this message is aimed directly at Beijing and at
Speaker 2: anyone else who is financing the Iranian regime. The pressure
Speaker 2: is working, and the Iranian currency has fallen beyond two
Speaker 2: million to one American dollar. Iran's economy is projected to
Speaker 2: shrink by more than five percent this year. Prices for
Speaker 2: basic food or soaring. The American naval blockade is strangling
Speaker 2: the oil revenue that Iran uses to finance it's terrorism
Speaker 2: and terrorist proxies. This is the strategic position that Trump
Speaker 2: has created.
Speaker 4: And all that's left.
Speaker 2: All that's left is for our president to come to
Speaker 2: the American people and say we've won, declare victory. And
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Speaker 1: Stay with us, the man who made CNN safe for
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Speaker 2: Monday, August the twenty fourth, Common Sense for the American People.
Speaker 2: Scott Jennings is here on Salem, joining us now. Elizabeth Pipco,
Speaker 2: former GOP national spokeswoman and Trump campaign official, also an
Speaker 2: author and outspoken activist on Behalf of the Jewish People.
Speaker 2: She's also the founder of Lest People Forget, a digital
Speaker 2: initiative dedicated to preserving Holocaust history and combating anti Semitism.
Speaker 2: MS Pipco, Welcome back to the Scott Jennings Show.
Speaker 7: Thanks for having me. Good to see you.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad to see you, glad to hear your voice.
Speaker 2: I want to get your thoughts on what's going on
Speaker 2: up in Michigan to me. And you've been outspoken in
Speaker 2: your fight against anti Semitism in our politics, and you've
Speaker 2: also been outspoken in your warnings about socialism. But to me,
Speaker 2: the greatest convergence of these things is happening in that
Speaker 2: Senate race up in Michigan. The Democrat is Abdul l
Speaker 2: Sayed and the Republican there is Mike Rogers. But when
Speaker 2: you consider what Abdul l Sied has said, what his
Speaker 2: campaign surrogates are saying every day, the fact that the
Speaker 2: Michigan Attorney General, a Jewish Democrat herself, is feeling so
Speaker 2: unsafe that she can't go to the Democratic convention up there.
Speaker 2: I'm just curious, Elizabeth, about your thoughts and feelings on
Speaker 2: what's going on in Michigan. To me, this is the
Speaker 2: battle line on these two issues. What say you about
Speaker 2: the stakes of the race in Michigan.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I think, fortunately, or maybe unfortunately, the
Speaker 7: fact that we're here and having this conversation kind of
Speaker 7: proves just how much these two issues go together. Right,
Speaker 7: Those who hate Jews and hate Israel, despite Israel being
Speaker 7: one of our closest allies, also very often find themselves
Speaker 7: on the side with those who hate America. It's blatantly obvious,
Speaker 7: and it happens time and time again. But I don't
Speaker 7: know if there is a case as clear and blatant
Speaker 7: as El sa Ed in Michigan as this people speaking
Speaker 7: for his campaign, those he refuses to distance himself from
Speaker 7: the common that he has made, despite every single person
Speaker 7: that's already endorsed him standing by him. I don't see
Speaker 7: there being anything he could possibly do or say right
Speaker 7: now that would cause anyone to, you know, kind of
Speaker 7: withhold an endorsement. I think someone like Bernie Sanders going
Speaker 7: out saying he supports him, then Elsayad going out and
Speaker 7: saying he's actually a capitalist, and then saying he wants
Speaker 7: to take things further than Bernie does when it comes
Speaker 7: to socialism, proofs that words, unfortunately don't matter anymore. They
Speaker 7: don't even know what they're saying anymore. They changed their
Speaker 7: mind to daily, and yet what they don't change their
Speaker 7: mind on is standing with folks like Hassan Piker who
Speaker 7: say we deserved nine to eleven. So I have warned
Speaker 7: people for years. I've had the privilege of getting to
Speaker 7: understand this problem because I come from a family of immigrants.
Speaker 7: Both my parents fled the Soviet Union. I was told
Speaker 7: about anti Semitism almost at the same level that I
Speaker 7: was warned about socialism and communism by my parents and grandparents.
Speaker 7: And to see folks in our country really proudly taking
Speaker 7: on all of these beliefs and these policy proposals and
Speaker 7: winning these primaries is very, very scary, especially for a
Speaker 7: party that you know, was the party of JFK that
Speaker 7: my parents became, you know, proud members of when they
Speaker 7: came to this country. And seeing it happen is incredibly scary.
Speaker 7: But ironically, it's exactly what my grandfather warned me about
Speaker 7: for many, many years.
Speaker 2: Elizabeth Pipco, former national spokesperson for the Republican Party and
Speaker 2: for the Trump campaign, is our guest here on the
Speaker 2: Scott Jetting Show. Elizabeth, I am curious about your reaction
Speaker 2: to how the Democrats are treating Natalie Harp. I've talked
Speaker 2: a lot about this on the show and on CNN
Speaker 2: the last several days, but you know, you as an
Speaker 2: accomplished female political operative who rose up in the ranks
Speaker 2: of the Republican Party. When you see Democrats dragging Natalie
Speaker 2: Harp's name through the mud, punching down on someone who's
Speaker 2: not a famous person, who's not a household name, and
Speaker 2: clearly communicating this sexism and misogyny, do you think voters
Speaker 2: are going to be repulsed by this? I certainly hope
Speaker 2: they see what's going on here. What do you think,
Speaker 2: you know?
Speaker 7: I hope so. I think those that are undecided tho
Speaker 7: in the middle certainly would be. Unfortunately, I think we're
Speaker 7: so polarized. I don't know how large that percentage of
Speaker 7: American voters actually is at this point. But Natalie is
Speaker 7: a friend. She's a wonderful person. She is someone who
Speaker 7: has never sought the limelight in any way, shape or form.
Speaker 7: She just wants to serve the president and this country.
Speaker 7: To see the attacks is not surprising to see the
Speaker 7: lack of people having the courage to go out and say, hey,
Speaker 7: this is wrong. We can hate Donald Trump, or we
Speaker 7: can't treat the staffers this way. Again, it's to be
Speaker 7: expected at this point in time, but we noticed this
Speaker 7: back in twenty sixteen. People have always been really really
Speaker 7: nasty during primaries during election cycles to the candidates, but
Speaker 7: they've never attacked their families, their staffers, and their supporters
Speaker 7: as they do and have for ten years with President Trump.
Speaker 7: Everyone excuses it, but Natalie doesn't deserve it. None of
Speaker 7: us deserve it. Very similar comments. Let's say I've been
Speaker 7: made about me and it hurt me, and it hurts
Speaker 7: me to watch Natalie go through it. I know she's
Speaker 7: tough enough to deal with it, but I would hope
Speaker 7: there are enough You ask me the number of people.
Speaker 7: I'm hoping there are enough people that realize that they're
Speaker 7: repulsed by this and that no amount of hatred for
Speaker 7: Donald Trump excuse us as kind of behavior.
Speaker 4: That's amazing.
Speaker 2: When you begin to be totally consumed by hate the
Speaker 2: way the president's enemies are exactly, you can really get
Speaker 2: off the rails in a hurry. I think that's what's
Speaker 2: happening here with Harp and the Party of Women has
Speaker 2: lost its way. Elizabeth Pipcoh, thanks for joining us here
Speaker 2: on the Scott Jennings Show. Grateful for your insights today.
Speaker 2: We have to take a break when we come back.
Speaker 2: Brent Sadler from the Heritage Foundation is here. He's our
Speaker 2: naval blockade expert. We're going to talk more about Iran
Speaker 2: and have some audio from Scott Besson right after this.
Speaker 1: The very definition I've never backed down. Here's Scott Jennings.
Speaker 2: In about thirty seconds, we're gonna get to our friend
Speaker 2: Brent Sadler from the Heritage Foundation.
Speaker 4: You've heard Brent.
Speaker 2: He's our expert on naval warfare and this naval blockade
Speaker 2: that is going on, and I want to get him
Speaker 2: to react to this as promised. Here's some audio from
Speaker 2: our Treasury Secretary Scott Besson, who has launched today what
Speaker 2: he is calling Economic d Day for Iran. This is
Speaker 2: a set of crippling sanctions designed to really put the
Speaker 2: proverbial boot on the throat of the Iranian terror regimes.
Speaker 2: Here is Scott Besson and cut number twelve.
Speaker 6: Nation economic outcasts to foreclose every other option available to
Speaker 6: the Iranian regime. Treasury has mapped every node, every facilitator,
Speaker 6: and every network that Iran has used to smuggle oil
Speaker 6: and evade sanctions. Beginning today, the actions of Treasury and
Speaker 6: other agencies will tighten the noose and block every potential
Speaker 6: source of revenue that funds the IRGC and the evil
Speaker 6: Iranian regime. We are enforcing a zero leakage approach. There
Speaker 6: will be no minimal breathing space for the regime to
Speaker 6: rebuild this capacity to inflict terror against America and the world.
Speaker 6: The final refuge of this regime is a mistaken conclusion
Speaker 6: of nations that still finance the Iranian threat in the
Speaker 6: hopes of evading it.
Speaker 2: All right, that was Scott Bessant just moments ago announcing
Speaker 2: these new sanctions against Iran. Let's bring Brent Sadler in
Speaker 2: here from the Heritage Foundation. Brent, welcome back to the
Speaker 2: Scott Jennings Show. You are a research fellow for Naval
Speaker 2: Warfare and Advanced Technology at the Heritage Foundation. Twenty six
Speaker 2: years in the Navy, you had operational assignments aboard nuclear
Speaker 2: powered subs, and you worked on the staff over at
Speaker 2: the Pentagon of its most senior officials. Brent, when you
Speaker 2: hear Scott Bessant today and when you look at the
Speaker 2: news over the weekend that basically Iran has lost control
Speaker 2: of the Strait of Horror moves, what does this tell
Speaker 2: you about where we stand in this war against Iran?
Speaker 8: Thanks for having me back on I mean, clearly militarily,
Speaker 8: the United States has won this fight quite a long
Speaker 8: time ago. It's really you know, inaction or to kind
Speaker 8: of acquiesce that we could lose all of the hard
Speaker 8: fought advantages and putting this terroristic regime in perhaps the
Speaker 8: weakest place it's ever been since its revolution in nineteen
Speaker 8: seventy nine. The economic tools that are being brought to bear,
Speaker 8: there's a kinetic element to it that I think kind
Speaker 8: of gets not really mentioned enough, and that is the
Speaker 8: target of these economic d day is going to be
Speaker 8: breaking down the networks, the finance networks, of course, which
Speaker 8: includes people moving some very insanity characters, moving suitcases of
Speaker 8: cash and interdicting that as well as keeping those that
Speaker 8: are benefiting and maybe moving liquid finances through global finance
Speaker 8: markets to be able to benefit by facilitating even at
Speaker 8: the higher level the trade and energy in particular with
Speaker 8: this regime. So it's going to have to be comprehensive,
Speaker 8: and it's going to get dirty and a level that
Speaker 8: we haven't really seen or associated with the word economic
Speaker 8: sanctions in the past.
Speaker 2: This appears, I think you're right to go well beyond
Speaker 2: what we normally think of as sanctions and in fact,
Speaker 2: if you listen carefully to Bessent there, it sounds like
Speaker 2: they have basically tracked down every possible source of funding
Speaker 2: for Iran and in fact, they leave no stone unturned here.
Speaker 4: Let's listen to bess In here.
Speaker 2: About what he's expecting this week on that very front,
Speaker 2: Cut thirteen, and.
Speaker 6: I would expect that you will see a major announcement
Speaker 6: of a financial institution being sanctioned by the end of
Speaker 6: this week.
Speaker 2: So brand it sounds like the US government is at
Speaker 2: the point where they're saying to the rest of the world,
Speaker 2: either with us or you with the Iranians, and we're
Speaker 2: not going to tolerate anybody out there who's trying to
Speaker 2: go behind our backs or play both sides of that.
Speaker 8: Is that what you hear, I think something very close
Speaker 8: to that, if nothing else, is a very principled approach. It's like,
Speaker 8: if you continue with your activities that are in the
Speaker 8: dark a, we're going to bring it out to the
Speaker 8: public to see to the world, and we're also going
Speaker 8: to start to go after and make it, you know,
Speaker 8: a detriment or a liability for you to continue doing
Speaker 8: this activity. So I'm pretty sure the Secretary knows and
Speaker 8: has a list more than one of institutions that are
Speaker 8: on the list, and that includes, you know, not just
Speaker 8: financial institutions. Might it could be shipping firms, It could
Speaker 8: be those that are ensuring those those shipping interests to
Speaker 8: move Iranian petroleum. But it's not just petroleum, of course,
Speaker 8: it's at risk here.
Speaker 2: Brent Sadler from the Heritage Foundation is our guest. Brent,
Speaker 2: let's talk about the naval blockade for a moment. You know,
Speaker 2: for weeks we were told by Democrats that we had
Speaker 2: lost the war because Iran had taken control of the
Speaker 2: Strait of Horror Moves. There was no oil flowing, we
Speaker 2: had no capacity to do anything about it. Fast forward
Speaker 2: just a few weeks and there's headlines now even in
Speaker 2: CNN that say Iran has lost control of the Strait
Speaker 2: of Horror Moves. We've seen millions of barrels of oil flowing,
Speaker 2: and so it's like this sort of last ditch effort
Speaker 2: by the Iranians to have any leverage here. The Strait
Speaker 2: of Hormuz is gone. It's evaporated for them, and it's
Speaker 2: in large part because of the US Navy.
Speaker 4: How did we do it?
Speaker 8: Yeah, so there's a couple of things. I mean, again
Speaker 8: where we are right now, there's a military element, and
Speaker 8: that's sinking the Iranian Navy degrading significantly any of their
Speaker 8: missile forces and drone forces to threaten shipping in the
Speaker 8: straight oh hor moves. But it's not zero. I mean
Speaker 8: they're relying on a terror campaign to try to get
Speaker 8: inside the mind of the shippers and the captains of
Speaker 8: these ships so that they don't make the transit. It
Speaker 8: still is lethal. You had two sailors that died in
Speaker 8: the last week trying to make that transit. But more
Speaker 8: and more ships are passing through. But also importantly, and
Speaker 8: this is an important point, that this is a fight
Speaker 8: for the US to lose really by our own actions.
Speaker 8: The oil markets have adjusted in a way they're not
Speaker 8: going to go back to one. Petroleum is moving through pipes,
Speaker 8: the East West Pipeline across from the Persian Gulf to
Speaker 8: the Red Sea in Saudi Arabia. There's pipeline at max
Speaker 8: capacity in UAE that is now moving well over a
Speaker 8: majority of the crude oil over pipelines, and more of
Speaker 8: that is coming. It's going to take time, of course,
Speaker 8: to build the pipelines. A big question is you know LNG,
Speaker 8: which there is no pipeline for that, but that's really
Speaker 8: for countries like South Kreen and Japan to kind of
Speaker 8: have to deal with because they rely on that. But
Speaker 8: the key point of this is the markets are moving
Speaker 8: to American advantage. The OPEK, which has been really still
Speaker 8: trying to suppress production, you had it break apart. Now
Speaker 8: you have UAE that departed in May first, and so
Speaker 8: the steams of what has not been you know, an
Speaker 8: oil cartel that really has American interest to one now
Speaker 8: where American energy production is going to be the strategic
Speaker 8: lever that the world spends on. And that's good for
Speaker 8: American security, it's good for American prosperity too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, when I hear Democrats Brent say that we've lost war,
Speaker 2: this was a blunder. There was no plan, So I
Speaker 2: hear this. These are political talking points. And now we
Speaker 2: see though how everything was working together. US military campaign
Speaker 2: was overwhelmingly successful, naval blockade overwhelmingly successful. Now we have
Speaker 2: this sort of final blow against the Iranians, these crippling
Speaker 2: next level economic sanctions. It's obvious to anybody who's paying
Speaker 2: attention and isn't broken brain by their own partisanship that
Speaker 2: yes there was a plan, and yes there is a
Speaker 2: way to bring about the end of this war to
Speaker 2: not just America's advantage, but to the advantage of.
Speaker 4: The rest of the civilized world. Is that how you
Speaker 4: see it?
Speaker 8: Absolutely? I mean, there's a couple ways to go about
Speaker 8: fighting this. For the President has chosen to take his
Speaker 8: time about it because he has all the advantages. I mean,
Speaker 8: the military threat is significant reduced from the Iranians. If
Speaker 8: you wanted to kind of march in and dictate terms,
Speaker 8: that's putting boots on the ground, and that's not something
Speaker 8: that anyone's really he really entertaining, nor is it necessary
Speaker 8: to get to a better place. So let time play out.
Speaker 8: The economic pressure and the military pressures have to be maintained,
Speaker 8: of course, hand in hand. But time is actually on
Speaker 8: the United States' side. It's certainly not on the Chinese
Speaker 8: side in this. And I think the regime in Tehran
Speaker 8: is you know, by the time they realize the game
Speaker 8: is up for them, it'll be too late and you'll
Speaker 8: start to see a fracturing of the regime very quickly.
Speaker 2: That's Brent Sadler from the Heritage Foundation Naval Warfare exper
Speaker 2: here on the Scott Jennings Show. We got a little
Speaker 2: more from Scott Besson's press conference which just ended a
Speaker 2: few minutes ago. Here's the Secretary of the Treasury cut fifteen.
Speaker 9: Any of those institutions targeted here, is that something that
Speaker 9: is coming in this campaign, or is the very delicate
Speaker 9: trade truce with China something that could prohibit you from,
Speaker 9: you know, going that far and taking that very big step.
Speaker 6: We want to make clear to here today that no
Speaker 6: one is above the reach of US sanctions, that if
Speaker 6: they facilitate transactions and are part of the ecosystem that
Speaker 6: turns Iranian oil into money into repression, they will be targeted.
Speaker 6: We find that the best way to engage with countries
Speaker 6: is through quiet diplomacy, and we are level setting with
Speaker 6: every country to tell them our expectations. We know who
Speaker 6: they are, They know who they are, so when the
Speaker 6: hammer of US Treasury actions falls upon them, they will
Speaker 6: have no one to blame but themselves. Richard from CBS Brent.
Speaker 2: When I hear a Scott Bessont talking today, I hear
Speaker 2: American resolve. And that is a real difference in attitude here,
Speaker 2: isn't it between the two Trump administration, which I think
Speaker 2: you correctly pointed out they've exhibited patients and resolve versus
Speaker 2: the manic, frantic handwringing anti American hyperpartisan democrats who want
Speaker 2: to declare American defeat for political reasons. I hear resolve
Speaker 2: versus manic frantic politics.
Speaker 4: How do you see it?
Speaker 8: I see it the same way. It's gonna take It's
Speaker 8: gonna take time to play out. I don't think it's
Speaker 8: going to be many months to play out. The economic Uh,
Speaker 8: you know, this economic campaign to force it starting at
Speaker 8: least a collapse of this regime at least in part.
Speaker 8: It's going to happen fairly quickly. We'll know if this
Speaker 8: course of action is the right one, I think, certainly
Speaker 8: before the midterm elections. Now, the other thing that's you know,
Speaker 8: the rubber is going to meet the road. Here is
Speaker 8: the China element.
Speaker 3: Here.
Speaker 8: There's a lot riding the summit in September. So how
Speaker 8: much resolved there is that the administration has on holding
Speaker 8: Chinese entities and some of those are of course government entities.
Speaker 8: An agent sies to account. It's going to be the
Speaker 8: real test of this. And one of the key things
Speaker 8: is the United States and this quiet diplomacy providing avenues
Speaker 8: for the Chinese to find to meet their energy needs elsewhere.
Speaker 8: And that's on the tune of several million barrels of
Speaker 8: petroleum a day and untold amounts of LNG that they
Speaker 8: have to find other markets, ideally that be the United States.
Speaker 8: But that quiet diplomacy can make sure that they have
Speaker 8: an off ramp while we continue to wield the economic
Speaker 8: hammer over their head by not complying, and they're going
Speaker 8: to try to cheat, of course, at the same time.
Speaker 4: One more cut from Scott Vessant, let's hear cut fourteen.
Speaker 6: Devote themselves to death to America and seek nuclear weapons
Speaker 6: to do just that. They have murdered and maimed more
Speaker 6: of our citizens and service members than any other terrorist
Speaker 6: regime on Earth. And they have been at war against America,
Speaker 6: their neighbors in the Gulf, and much of the world
Speaker 6: for forty seven years. President Trump has taken action that
Speaker 6: his predecessors have long deferred, and under his leadership, America
Speaker 6: is no longer managing the Iranian threat. We are ending it.
Speaker 2: There you have it from Scott Bessett, Brent Sadler, Thanks
Speaker 2: for coming by. We'll have you back in soon to
Speaker 2: continue to further cover the victory of the Americans in
Speaker 2: Iran quick note about a documentary that is coming out
Speaker 2: that I think you're gonna want to hear. If you
Speaker 2: love Charlie Kirk, and we did love Charlie, he was
Speaker 2: our friend, you need to watch this documentary called Can
Speaker 2: You Hear Me Now? You can get it and pre
Speaker 2: order it by going to can You Hear Me Now?
Speaker 2: Film dot com? Sorry, can you Hear Me Now? Film
Speaker 2: dot com or go to Salem Now dot com. Either
Speaker 2: way get the film. But Charlie sat down for an
Speaker 2: interview just a couple of weeks before he was assassinated,
Speaker 2: and it turned into this documentary and it's sort of
Speaker 2: wrestling over questions of faith and history and what's going
Speaker 2: on in our world today. If you love Charlie, I
Speaker 2: highly recommend you check out this documentary. Can You Hear
Speaker 2: Me Now? Go to Salemnow dot com. More news after this,
Speaker 2: it's Scott Jennings on Salem, Stay.
Speaker 1: With Us Saving Western Civilization, One busted leftist narrative at
Speaker 1: a time. It's the Scott Jenny Show.
Speaker 2: Coming up in thirty seconds, we bring you an interesting
Speaker 2: update to this China birth tourism story that we've been covering.
Speaker 2: It seems that President Trump's actions on this are working.
Speaker 2: First though, I'd like to say to you that for
Speaker 2: nearly two hundred and fifty years, America's founding principles have
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Speaker 2: It was a wonderful time and saw all of our
Speaker 2: friends out there. So thanks for that invitation. Next guest
Speaker 2: here is senior contributor at the Federalist and she has
Speaker 2: some reporting about actions being taken by the Trump administration
Speaker 2: to curb the rise of birth tourism. Her name is
Speaker 2: Helen Raleigh, making her inaugural appearance on the Scott Jennings Show. Helen, Welcome, Inn.
Speaker 2: Tell us what you found out about how the Trump
Speaker 2: people are cracking down successfully on birth tourism.
Speaker 3: Thank you for having me, Scott. I'm a big fan.
Speaker 3: So President the Trump recently signed an executive order banning
Speaker 3: the cracking down our burst tourism, and as a as
Speaker 3: a result, the State Department also set up a task
Speaker 3: force Scott, the State Department has successfully revoked six hundred
Speaker 3: tourists di visas suspect of UH. You know, the primary
Speaker 3: goal was a burst tourism, and those actions really already
Speaker 3: have a deterrence effect. So on Chinese social media, women's
Speaker 3: pregnant women's or intended to pregnant women's are exchange messages
Speaker 3: about UH. Some women's previous to travel to US to
Speaker 3: give births, and now the tourists divisa being application being
Speaker 3: rejected and some of them actually were turned away at
Speaker 3: the border UH by the Custom officers, and so there
Speaker 3: were a lot of uncertainty and anxiety and their discussions
Speaker 3: about some women's are thinking about changing their plan to
Speaker 3: come to you as just for the goal to give
Speaker 3: birds have their children obtain US citizenship. So there's definitely
Speaker 3: those actions by the Trump administration is working. Yeah.
Speaker 2: According to your reporting, Helen, the State Department has already
Speaker 2: revoked more than six hundred visas worldwide as part of
Speaker 2: this effort. And so what you're telling us is that
Speaker 2: the President communicated I'm not putting up with this anymore.
Speaker 2: His administration took concrete actions, and now the word on
Speaker 2: the street in China is we can't get away from
Speaker 2: we can't get away with this anymore. So basically the
Speaker 2: actions are working, but also the news is spreading on
Speaker 2: the ground in China.
Speaker 3: Is that right? Yes, basically believe it or not, Scott,
Speaker 3: if you inforced existing law, actually you will deter you know,
Speaker 3: unlawful behaviors. So imagine not against the law to yeah,
Speaker 3: exactly right. It's not against the law to give burst
Speaker 3: about you United States, but it is stated in US
Speaker 3: law it is against the US immigration law that if
Speaker 3: you apply for tourists with specific purpose to come to
Speaker 3: us to give burst that is always against the law,
Speaker 3: and with a little bit of enforcement, and that deter
Speaker 3: is the fact is very obvious.
Speaker 4: All right.
Speaker 2: The writer is Helen Raleigh, and I would recommend you
Speaker 2: check her out at the Federalists the Federalist dot com.
Speaker 2: Her latest headline is Chinese social media chatter indicates Trump's
Speaker 2: birth tourism crackdown is starting to work. Helen, I'm really
Speaker 2: grateful that you wrote this piece because oftentimes, you know,
Speaker 2: our government announces things and we hear it and we say, oh,
Speaker 2: that sounds like a good idea, But how many times
Speaker 2: do we ever say, well, what happened with And in
Speaker 2: this case, you followed up on it and you found out.
Speaker 4: That visas are being revoked.
Speaker 2: You have people who were trying to violate our laws
Speaker 2: being turned away at the border. And because of all
Speaker 2: these actions, the word is out on Chinese social media.
Speaker 2: The United States isn't playing this game anymore. They mean
Speaker 2: what they say that they're not going to put up
Speaker 2: with this birth tourism in the crackdown is working. Helen Raleigh,
Speaker 2: thanks for coming on the show. We look forward to
Speaker 2: having you again.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 2: All right, that was Helen Raleigh from the Federal I
Speaker 2: love it when we get new writers Hollywood. Sean Helen
Speaker 2: making her debut here with a great story. We'll have
Speaker 2: Helen back. And we're always grateful for the journalists out
Speaker 2: there bringing good information to the American people.
Speaker 4: More news after this.
Speaker 2: Stay with us portion of this God Jedi Show our
Speaker 2: sponsored in part by Americans for Prosperity. All right, welcome
Speaker 2: back to common Sense for the American people. Quick check
Speaker 2: at the headlines here on Monday, August the twenty fourth,
Speaker 2: let's check in on the Texas Senate race. James tall Rico,
Speaker 2: the Democrat candidate there, doesn't just hate poll watchers. He
Speaker 2: hates voter ID. Voter ID, he says, he hates it.
Speaker 2: Let's listen to some new video just into the show.
Speaker 2: Cut number ten.
Speaker 10: In that voter suppression bill, still an immoral, anti American,
Speaker 10: anti Democratic bill, one that I hate with every fiber
Speaker 10: of my being. But I knew that my job as
Speaker 10: a member of the minority is to do harm mitigation,
Speaker 10: and so by coming back, we were able to remove
Speaker 10: some of the worst parts to the bill, the ban
Speaker 10: on souls to the polls, the provisions that would make
Speaker 10: it easier to overturn the election, taking some of these
Speaker 10: federal penalties, these felony penalties, and bringing them down to misdemeanors,
Speaker 10: requiring that these poll watchers, who I don't think should
Speaker 10: be in the polling place at all, but if they're
Speaker 10: going to be there, we were able to ensure that
Speaker 10: they at least have mandated election code training so that
Speaker 10: they don't have an excuse of saying they didn't know
Speaker 10: the election code before they violate.
Speaker 2: James Tallericoke, a Democrat candidate for Senate down in Texas,
Speaker 2: says he hates voter ID with every fiber of his being.
Speaker 2: Murder trial of Lendsey Clancy has become a national debate
Speaker 2: over things like postpartum psychosis, prescription drugs, and criminal responsibility.
Speaker 2: Amid that debate, some people are reminding us that we
Speaker 2: can never forget these three young victims in this case.
Speaker 2: Let's go over the core event. It happened January twenty fourth,
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three and Duxbury, Massachusetts. The victims here a
Speaker 2: five year old Cora, a three year old dawson, and
Speaker 2: an eight month old Callen. Lendsy Clancy strangled the children
Speaker 2: using exercise bands while her husband was out of the
Speaker 2: house picking up takeout. She then slashed her own wrists
Speaker 2: and neck and jumped out of a second story window
Speaker 2: in a suicide attempt. She survived that fall, but it
Speaker 2: left her paralyzed from the chest down. Clancy has pleaded
Speaker 2: not guilty. Her defense does not just that she killed
Speaker 2: the children, but the central question of the trial is
Speaker 2: her state of mind. Defense arguing she is not guilty
Speaker 2: by reason of insanity. The prosecution argues she is fully
Speaker 2: fully responsible for first degree murder. They contend she acted rationally,
Speaker 2: deliberately and methodically tricking her husband into leaving the house
Speaker 2: to carry out a planned act because she wanted to
Speaker 2: escape her life. So what's going on with the trial
Speaker 2: right now? The defense recently rested its case after weeks
Speaker 2: of emotional testimony for medical experts, family members, and the husband,
Speaker 2: Patrick Clancy, and the trial is nearing its final stages
Speaker 2: with closing arguments. To discuss all of this, as our
Speaker 2: friend Lilah Rose, the founder and president of Live Action,
Speaker 2: a national pro life organization, Lila, welcome back into the
Speaker 2: Scott Jennings Show.
Speaker 4: We have not covered this trial on the show. Lila.
Speaker 2: I've been watching the national discourse unfold. But I'm curious,
Speaker 2: how do you see things with this Clancy murder trial.
Speaker 11: Thank you, Scott, thank you for having me on. You know,
Speaker 11: it's such a devastating case, and that's why it's captured
Speaker 11: the attention of really all of America and beyond. And
Speaker 11: you have millions of American mothers, especially tuning in. And
Speaker 11: there's a real harsh divide in how people are responding
Speaker 11: to this case, and understandably so. On the one hand,
Speaker 11: you have people who say this is completely unconscionable, that
Speaker 11: this was done, This is barbaric acts against children. You know,
Speaker 11: strangulation of little ones takes multiple minutes. It's a very
Speaker 11: they say, intimate act of violence. She would have had
Speaker 11: to have been, you know, operating consistently to accomplish the
Speaker 11: act in such a horrific way to strangle a child
Speaker 11: one by one, three one after the next, and that,
Speaker 11: of course she needs to be held criminally responsible for
Speaker 11: these you know, unthinkable actions. And then there's another party.
Speaker 11: Right now we're seeing actually protests outside the court. How
Speaker 11: right now, women standing there saying basically we are lindsay too,
Speaker 11: you have you know, the TikTok internet salutes and Mama
Speaker 11: sluts online saying that no, Lindsay's not culpable whatsoever. She's
Speaker 11: a victim of the medical system who failed her care
Speaker 11: with her postpart of depression, impossible psychosis, and she should
Speaker 11: not be held liable whatsoever, even blaming her husband, or
Speaker 11: blaming the medical establishment, or blaming others. And you know
Speaker 11: what this case really tells me. You know, we'll find
Speaker 11: out this week. Likely the jury will be determining, you
Speaker 11: know what, they're where they're stand in the next few days.
Speaker 11: But what I think this case really shows is increasingly
Speaker 11: an adult centric culture where we do not take the
Speaker 11: suffering of children seriously enough. And you know, my background
Speaker 11: leading Live Action is fighting abortion, advocating for life. You
Speaker 11: have a million abortions every year, a million American women
Speaker 11: choosing abortion, and they think it's altruistic. Many of them
Speaker 11: they think they're ending the lives of their child, their
Speaker 11: unborn children, for good reason, that this child wouldn't have
Speaker 11: had a good life. Lindsay explicitly told multiple professionals and
Speaker 11: others after the slayings that she thought that this was
Speaker 11: best for them. I mean, this was kind of her
Speaker 11: rationale because she was not going to be able to
Speaker 11: be there for them because she was going to commit suicide.
Speaker 11: And so there's a term called altruistic philicide that's being used.
Speaker 11: But at the heart of it is a narcissistic view
Speaker 11: that we as mothers or parents have total control over
Speaker 11: our children and can decide their fates, kill them if
Speaker 11: we please, in even their best interests. And that's the
Speaker 11: narrative that concerns me the most. Scott and what I
Speaker 11: have authored a our essay on this that's been making
Speaker 11: the rounds. When we put the suffering of adults over
Speaker 11: the suffering of children as more important, we ignore the
Speaker 11: chaos that we're creating for children, and even the murder
Speaker 11: of children, and we say, oh, the mother's a perpetual victim,
Speaker 11: and it's understandable that she did this, And I think
Speaker 11: that is a mistake. And so my position is that
Speaker 11: it's devastating. Women need support. Postpartum depression is real, that's
Speaker 11: all true, But we cannot forget the number one victim
Speaker 11: in this case. It's not Lindsay, it's Cora, Dolphin and Colin,
Speaker 11: and they should be here today and their lives mattered
Speaker 11: and they need justice.
Speaker 2: Llila, is it your view that this culture of a
Speaker 2: callousness or an indifference to life that has you know,
Speaker 2: populated our culture in the United States and really in
Speaker 2: other cultures around the world, and it's sort of the
Speaker 2: culture of abortion. Is that what led to this situation
Speaker 2: that we're in today where people just seem to want
Speaker 2: to think it's okay to devalue or disregard the lives
Speaker 2: of young children. I mean, it stands to reason if
Speaker 2: you don't think a baby at seven, eight or nine
Speaker 2: months should be that shouldn't be considered valuable life, why
Speaker 2: would you consider children, you know, just on the other
Speaker 2: side of those numbers to be valuable. Do you see
Speaker 2: the connection between sort of this culture of anti life
Speaker 2: people and how they're reacting to this Clancy murder trial?
Speaker 11: Yes, I do, and I think you can absolutely have
Speaker 11: compassion for women and mothers and acknowledged postpartum depression is real.
Speaker 11: Lindsay Clancy clearly had a number of, you know, mental
Speaker 11: health issues, but mental health issues which unfortunately, you know,
Speaker 11: it's a fourth to well third of mothers today are
Speaker 11: taking some sort of anti psychiatric drug or some other
Speaker 11: drug to address mental health or anxiety. That's become all
Speaker 11: the norm today, But that doesn't take away moral responsibility,
Speaker 11: and that doesn't mean that then the mother is the victim,
Speaker 11: even to the point where she may take the life
Speaker 11: of the children, but she's still the victim and the
Speaker 11: one that deserves the empathy and the sympathy, and the
Speaker 11: children are just sort of the collateral, you know, for
Speaker 11: her mental illness. Like, we need to still assert that
Speaker 11: moral responsibility exists for parents even when the parents may
Speaker 11: be struggling, which at some point every parent is going
Speaker 11: to struggle, right, so we need to come up with
Speaker 11: good solutions for mothers, better postpartum care. I think we
Speaker 11: need to hold back on the over prescription of antipsychotic medications. Unfortunately,
Speaker 11: the current medical system does, I believe, over prescribe these
Speaker 11: anti psychotic drugs. I mean, Joseph wit Dooring is a
Speaker 11: wonderful psychiatrist, and he works with the Taper Clinic to
Speaker 11: try to get people off these meds because they can
Speaker 11: have terrible side effects that can be very destructive. All
Speaker 11: of that is true, But what is also true and
Speaker 11: very important and often missed I think in the coverage
Speaker 11: of this case and the response for many unfortunately women
Speaker 11: even is that those little children should be here, and
Speaker 11: they were murdered intentionally and methodically. And despite the medical
Speaker 11: challenges the mother was facing, she had never been diagnosed
Speaker 11: with psychosis. She was never diagnosed. But that wasn't like
Speaker 11: she was constantly hearing voices and reporting that. The first
Speaker 11: time she reported hearing voices, Lindsay plancy of reported hearing
Speaker 11: voices was after the slayings of her children and it
Speaker 11: was kind of an excuse to her husband for why
Speaker 11: she did this unthinkable act. So all to say is
Speaker 11: these children deserve justice and mothers need helpful things are true.
Speaker 2: Lyla Rose is the founder and president of the life
Speaker 2: organization called Live Action. She's the host of the Lyla
Speaker 2: Rose Show. She's been closely following the case. Lylah, thanks
Speaker 2: for your reporting on this today. I guess in the
Speaker 2: next few days we'll see how this turns out and
Speaker 2: what the jury decides to do with it. We're going
Speaker 2: to take a break. More news when we come back,
Speaker 2: including a little more audio from Scott Bessant cracking down
Speaker 2: on IRAN today.
Speaker 4: Right after this, stay with the.
Speaker 1: Voice of reason, common sense for the American people. This
Speaker 1: is the Scott Jenny.
Speaker 2: Show, all Right, Monday, August It's twenty fourth. Tracking some
Speaker 2: breaking news today here on the Scott Jenny Show. The
Speaker 2: Treasury Secretary Scott Bessant has launched crippling, crippling sanctions against
Speaker 2: the Iranian regime and any countries and entities that do
Speaker 2: business with Iran. This is an attempt to bring the
Speaker 2: country fully to heal absent renewed military strikes. So this plan,
Speaker 2: Scott best is calling economic d Day. This will ratchet
Speaker 2: up pressure on the Iranian regime to come back to
Speaker 2: the table and make a deal. These secondary sanctions essentially
Speaker 2: they're tracking.
Speaker 4: Every dollar all over the world.
Speaker 2: And Scott Besson says, let there be no ambiguity as
Speaker 2: to the position of the United States, and economic engagement
Speaker 2: of any kind with this murderous regime will expose those
Speaker 2: responsible to the full reach of American power. No one
Speaker 2: is above this. This is economic asphyxiation of this regime,
Speaker 2: and no one should test our resolve. Let's hear more
Speaker 2: from Scott Besson and cut sixteen.
Speaker 6: Aron Nelfaous is a very clear choice with only two
Speaker 6: paths before them, complete global isolation and a subsistenced economy,
Speaker 6: or a path back to normalcy with an opportunity to
Speaker 6: rejoin the global economy. Today, we're launching Operation Economic Outcasts
Speaker 6: to foreclose every other option available to the Iranian regime.
Speaker 6: Treasury has mapped every node, every facilitator, and every network
Speaker 6: that Iran has used to smuggle oil and evade sanctions.
Speaker 6: Beginning today, the actions of Treasury and other agencies will
Speaker 6: tighten the noose and block every potential source of revenue
Speaker 6: that funds the IRGC and the evil Iranian regime. We're
Speaker 6: enforcing a zero leakage approach. There will be no minimal
Speaker 6: breathing space for the regime to rebuild this capacity to
Speaker 6: inflict terror against America and the world.
Speaker 2: Really an announcement of resolve and upgraded enforcement from Scott
Speaker 2: Vessent today. There's already a lot of sanctions on Iran,
Speaker 2: but they've really, in some ways only been partially enforced.
Speaker 2: And what the United States is going to have to
Speaker 2: do here is mobilize all of its Western allies to
Speaker 2: form effectively a coalition to fully enforce all these sanctions now.
Speaker 4: In order to do this.
Speaker 2: In order to do this, the Trump administration is going
Speaker 2: to have to talk to, or confront, or cajole or
Speaker 2: threaten countries like China, Russia, India, Pakistan, Cutter Turkey and
Speaker 2: others who still trade with Iran. We haven't done that
Speaker 2: so far, but that would be the next step. If
Speaker 2: you fully want to choke off the Iranian regime, you'd
Speaker 2: have to talk to those folks. The state of play
Speaker 2: here is interesting. The political state of play in the
Speaker 2: United States is that the war is unpopular, and the Democrats,
Speaker 2: because of their craven political position, are trying to convince
Speaker 2: the American people that we've lost the war. In fact,
Speaker 2: the opposite is true. We've destroyed their military, We've taken
Speaker 2: away their defense industrial complex, We've set their nuclear program
Speaker 2: back decades, we sunk their navy. Now we're choking off
Speaker 2: all of their ability to sell oil and really trade
Speaker 2: anywhere else. I mean, we have, by all measurements, won
Speaker 2: this war. We're just waiting for President Trump to come
Speaker 2: before the American people and formalize it. The Iranian economy
Speaker 2: is in crisis. As of this morning, the currency in
Speaker 2: Iran was two million to one US dollar two million
Speaker 2: to one. This naval blockade of the United States has
Speaker 2: prevented Iran from exporting its oil that's the life blood
Speaker 2: of their economy. By the way, this is how they
Speaker 2: make money. And the US naval blockade has been nothing
Speaker 2: short of beautiful, of expert and cutting off off Iran's
Speaker 2: ability to export any oil. And Iran is having a
Speaker 2: really hard time going around it. You know, if you
Speaker 2: were in Iran's position, you might say, well, well, maybe
Speaker 2: find other routes over land or other ways out via water.
Speaker 2: They can't do it. They can't do it, which then
Speaker 2: in turn is cutting off their ability to provide basic
Speaker 2: functions and goods and services to their people. So all
Speaker 2: of this is happening. That's driving up inflation in Iran,
Speaker 2: that's driving up food prices. So by any reasonable measurement,
Speaker 2: we have defeated Iran militarily. We have defeated them diplomatically
Speaker 2: because we've allied the entire Gulf region against them, we
Speaker 2: have defeated them economically every possible way you can defeat somebody.
Speaker 2: We have defeated these people in what Vescent is announcing today,
Speaker 2: of course, is sort of the last thing you would
Speaker 2: do to fully run this regime into the ground. Hopefully
Speaker 2: they see the position they're in and decide I'd like
Speaker 2: to come back to the table and end this conflict.
Speaker 4: On our terms.
Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about the documentary. You've heard us
Speaker 2: talking about it here. It's this can You Hear Me Now? Documentary?
Speaker 2: What makes it special? What makes it special is that Charlie,
Speaker 2: our friend, Charlie sat down for one of his final interviews,
Speaker 2: just two weeks before he died, to wrestle with this
Speaker 2: timeless question does God still Speak Today? And the footage
Speaker 2: of that interview in the hands of director Matthew Thayer,
Speaker 2: turned into this film Can You Hear Me Now? You
Speaker 2: can go to Salemnow dot com Salemnow dot com and
Speaker 2: pre order the movie. You also get a free DVD
Speaker 2: if you do it that way. I think that's how
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do at Hollywood, Sean. I'm going to go
Speaker 2: to Salemnow dot com and pre order. But I want
Speaker 2: to see what Charlie had say one of his last interviews.
Speaker 2: Part of this new documentary can You Hear Me Now?
Speaker 2: We take a break. Pollster Natalie Jackson on the other sides, David.
Speaker 1: Conversation said stories you simply won't hear from the mainstream media.
Speaker 1: It's the Scott Jenny.
Speaker 2: Show, Monday, August the twenty fourth. Back in the chair
Speaker 2: here in Louisville, Hollywood, Sewan. I spent my whole weekend
Speaker 2: moving around. I flew to Des Moines, Iowa, and appeared
Speaker 2: at a big event with our friends at Americans for Prosperity.
Speaker 4: I met Enis Canter Freedom.
Speaker 2: By the way, I met the greatest women's basketball player alive,
Speaker 2: Enus Canter Freedom.
Speaker 4: Nice guy.
Speaker 2: And then I see after he met me, he went
Speaker 2: off and got thrown out of a WNBA game the
Speaker 2: other day. Can't take that guy anywhere. Then after that,
Speaker 2: I got on an airplane and flew back to Washington,
Speaker 2: d C. Got back there in the middle of the night,
Speaker 2: woke up Sunday morning. I had to go on and
Speaker 2: take my beatings on CNN. And while I was doing that,
Speaker 2: they were getting ready for the Grand Prix and the
Speaker 2: loudest noises I've ever heard.
Speaker 4: In my life.
Speaker 2: Hollywood sewn these flyovers. They had jets and bombers. These
Speaker 2: things were as close to the ground as you could
Speaker 2: possibly be. And I'm there trying to do my television
Speaker 2: and have a little breakfast in between. The dishes were rattling,
Speaker 2: the forks were rattling. It's how loud it was, but
Speaker 2: it sounds like the Grand Prix went off without a
Speaker 2: hitch and it was a great success for the Freedom
Speaker 2: two fifty celebrations. So congratulations to Trump and his people
Speaker 2: for getting that Grand Prix race there in Washington, d C.
Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about data centers and what is
Speaker 2: going on with public opinion around data centers. As you know,
Speaker 2: America's artificial boom is driving a rapid expansion of data centers,
Speaker 2: but new polling shows growing resistance from communities who worry
Speaker 2: about things like higher electric bills, water use, and environmental
Speaker 2: impacts in neighborhoods. Joining us to discuss all of this
Speaker 2: is thank goodness, somebody who knows what's going on is here.
Speaker 2: We've been on the air for an hour and a
Speaker 2: half and finally somebody who knows what's going on is here.
Speaker 2: Natalie Jackson, the founder of Centerline Research, is here. She's
Speaker 2: also a columnist for National Journal. Long time, long time polster. Nat,
Speaker 2: Welcome to the Scott Jennings Show. Welcome back. I should
Speaker 2: say you wrote a column that you published this morning
Speaker 2: in the National Journal about these data centers and what's
Speaker 2: going on with public opinion.
Speaker 4: What can you tell us?
Speaker 12: Well, thanks for having me and thanks for calling me old. There,
Speaker 12: long time Polstal.
Speaker 1: I'm calling you old.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying you started your career at a young age,
Speaker 2: and look how far you've come in a very short
Speaker 2: period of time.
Speaker 13: Anyway, go ahead, sure, sure, sure.
Speaker 12: Now I have been doing this for twenty years, so
Speaker 12: it's been a while. Data centers have blown up more negatively,
Speaker 12: more quickly than any one issue I've seen in my career.
Speaker 12: And I've been watching this for well over a year.
Speaker 12: You know, I posted on x I actually took a
Speaker 12: victory lap yesterday because I found the old post where
Speaker 12: I said in December of last year, this is a
Speaker 12: sleeper issue for the midterms, and that has played out.
Speaker 12: People are angry. They don't appreciate having these things coming
Speaker 12: into their territory without you know, appropriate limits and accommodations
Speaker 12: from the companies. And you know, part of the picture
Speaker 12: is that this development really started before there was any
Speaker 12: public input, and so the reaction has been extremely harsh
Speaker 12: toward these companies and these data centers because it feels
Speaker 12: out of control.
Speaker 2: But net I'll play Devil's advocate here against everybody who's
Speaker 2: engaged in this mass hysteria. We've had data centers in
Speaker 2: the United States for decades and now everybody's been out
Speaker 2: of shape about it. Is how much of this, in
Speaker 2: your opinion, has to do with just the rapid spread
Speaker 2: of I think foreign Chinese back propaganda online.
Speaker 4: I mean, is that? Where is that? How public opinion
Speaker 4: changed so rapidly in your opinion? Do you know?
Speaker 14: So?
Speaker 13: There are a few things, you know.
Speaker 12: One of the things that I come back to is
Speaker 12: I grew up in extreme rural Texas and there was
Speaker 12: a coal strip mine about half a mile from my
Speaker 12: house and every time the mind blasted stuff would fall
Speaker 12: off the walls, you know, like it was just a
Speaker 12: thing that was part of the landscape of living there.
Speaker 12: And so you know, I compare that to data centers now,
Speaker 12: you know, it's a new form of this infrastructure that
Speaker 12: we need to keep advancing. There are obvious reasons for
Speaker 12: China to want us to slow down. There is a
Speaker 12: lot of misinformation that runs around about particularly the water use,
Speaker 12: the electricity use. You know, I think people don't really
Speaker 12: know who or what to believe on any of this
Speaker 12: because you know, it's hard to believe the companies because
Speaker 12: they are the ones who want to come in.
Speaker 13: And do this.
Speaker 2: The politicians, let me ask you a lot of let
Speaker 2: me ask you about that issue and that because I
Speaker 2: think this is part of this is a hypothesis. You
Speaker 2: tell me if I'm crazy, But I think some of
Speaker 2: what's going on is that people don't trust the technology
Speaker 2: companies or the social media companies whatever. So they don't
Speaker 2: they inherently don't trust or they dislike that. Therefore anything
Speaker 2: connected to that, or if they say, oh, don't worry,
Speaker 2: this is good for you, they're just an inherent amount
Speaker 2: of mistrust there. And so therefore, if you believe a
Speaker 2: data center is aiding and abetting these companies, I already
Speaker 2: don't like. I'm gonna I'm going to be against the
Speaker 2: data centers. Do you do you see that connection to
Speaker 2: my off base here?
Speaker 13: I do?
Speaker 12: You know, we to make a broader point, people don't
Speaker 12: trust much of anything these days. You know, the trust
Speaker 12: a government is very low, Trusting corporations is low, trust
Speaker 12: in other humans is low. You know, we're just existing
Speaker 12: in a low trust society, and so people don't trust
Speaker 12: anyone else to be looking out for them. So that's
Speaker 12: definitely a piece of it. They're worried about their bills,
Speaker 12: you know, a big huge chunk of this ties into
Speaker 12: the affordability debate that we're having around the country. Will
Speaker 12: their utility rates rise? Will they have their property values affected?
Speaker 12: You know, all of these monetary things come into play
Speaker 12: at a time when people are already freaked out about
Speaker 12: rising costs, you know, and have been for the last
Speaker 12: you know, six seven years.
Speaker 2: Matt, I saw a pole the other day and people
Speaker 2: were saying they would rather live next to a coal
Speaker 2: fired power plant than live next to a data center. Now,
Speaker 2: for those of us who are here in Kentucky, our
Speaker 2: eyebrows were raised. We thought, hey, look, opportunity knocks. But
Speaker 2: but I mean, that's that's where we are with this debate.
Speaker 2: People want live next to a coal fired power plant.
Speaker 2: I think they also might have set a nuclear plant
Speaker 2: more than they wanted to live near a data center.
Speaker 4: So I bring that up to ask you this, based.
Speaker 2: On the data that you've seen, how is it possible
Speaker 2: to dig out of this public relations hole? And if so,
Speaker 2: how would you go about it based on what you've
Speaker 2: seen here.
Speaker 12: So this is one of the big problems with how
Speaker 12: public opinion is kind.
Speaker 13: Of being reported right now.
Speaker 12: Most people aren't getting beyond everybody hates this, but there
Speaker 12: is some work that's digging deeper. Echelon Insights did a
Speaker 12: really interesting poll that they released last week where they said,
Speaker 12: do you support or oppose.
Speaker 13: A data center?
Speaker 12: And of course most people said no, you know, they
Speaker 12: oppose it. But then they said, do you support or
Speaker 12: oppose a data center if they're paying all of their costs,
Speaker 12: if they're making sure all of the water is taking
Speaker 12: care of, if they're you know, once you put the
Speaker 12: conditions on it, and these are the things that people want.
Speaker 12: You know, you ask people why they're opposed to the
Speaker 12: data centers, it's the costs, it's this and that. If
Speaker 12: you put those conditions in the survey question, what Echelon
Speaker 12: found was that a majority of people would support the
Speaker 12: data center. So it's really a pathway forward of cooperation
Speaker 12: between communities and the companies. The complicating factor right now
Speaker 12: that is kind of preventing that from happening is the election.
Speaker 12: Politicians running for office right now are responding to the
Speaker 12: overwhelmingly negative sentiment by you know, let's just stop all
Speaker 12: of this, So that makes it a lot more urgent
Speaker 12: and the need for these people running for office to
Speaker 12: take action right now. I think is stepping on the
Speaker 12: ability of this cooperation to start building for everyone to
Speaker 12: move forward. I expect that to get a little bit
Speaker 12: easier once we get over the election hump, at least
Speaker 12: until we start talking about twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 2: I think one of the smart things Trump is doing
Speaker 2: on this is this rate payer protection pledge, This idea
Speaker 2: that a company building one of these things, they would
Speaker 2: have to fully bear the cost of their energy needs,
Speaker 2: their energy infrastructure, so none of this gets passed on.
Speaker 2: I think that was a pretty good idea. I know
Speaker 2: there's legislation moving on that. Do you see any data
Speaker 2: on that when people are described this idea of rate
Speaker 2: payer protection will make them take care of everything, all
Speaker 2: the costs as it relates to hooking up to the
Speaker 2: energy grid.
Speaker 4: Here, I assume that scores well, doesn't it.
Speaker 12: Absolutely? That's exactly what people want. When you ask them
Speaker 12: why they oppose data centers and what would change their mind,
Speaker 12: those are the things that they want, you know. They
Speaker 12: want the data centers and the companies operating them to
Speaker 12: pay for the upgrades to the electrical grids. They want
Speaker 12: them to pay for all of the water outlays, any
Speaker 12: additional electricity that they pull any you know, reasons that
Speaker 12: the rates might go up, and you know in a
Speaker 12: lot of places those those things are being set up.
Speaker 12: You know, in Louisiana there's a data center where Meta
Speaker 12: has paid for all kinds of upgrades to the schools.
Speaker 12: They gave teachers like a fifty thousand dollars bonus, and
Speaker 12: so there are ways for the companies to come in
Speaker 12: and pay for everything still get the benefit, and that
Speaker 12: seems to be what a big chunk of the public wants.
Speaker 13: There are some, of course, the final change their minds.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's my final question for you. I got about
Speaker 2: thirty seconds here. I read that article too. So you've
Speaker 2: basically got locations that are able to do things they've
Speaker 2: never been able to do before, give teachers massive bonuses,
Speaker 2: upgrade education facilities. I suspect you're going to start seeing
Speaker 2: reductions and property taxes and other local tax rates out
Speaker 2: there where you have data centers flowing at a bunch
Speaker 2: of revenue.
Speaker 4: Does the public accept this?
Speaker 2: If you get that, will they then change their mind
Speaker 2: based on the data you've seen. I know we've seen
Speaker 2: a massive shift against it, but if those things come
Speaker 2: to pass, you think they can shift back based on
Speaker 2: basic you know, common good type stuff like that.
Speaker 12: It certainly won't move everyone. There are people, there is
Speaker 12: a small slice. It's you know, fifteen to twenty of
Speaker 12: people who are just opposed to everything AI.
Speaker 13: They don't want any of it, all right, want the
Speaker 13: data centers?
Speaker 4: All right?
Speaker 2: All right, well those are sticks in the mud. Everybody else,
Speaker 2: be mindful. Natalie Jackson, Centerline, National journal reader stuff.
Speaker 4: We'll take a break and.
Speaker 1: Be right back at scotch any common sense for the
Speaker 1: American people. This is the Scott Jenny Show.
Speaker 2: All right. We round out the show here on Monday,
Speaker 2: August twenty fourth with some coverage of what I guess
Speaker 2: is going to be a trade war with Canada. Last
Speaker 2: week we told you that President Trump was expressing optimism
Speaker 2: that a deal was on the horizon with the Canadians,
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden Friday, everything fell apart.
Speaker 2: The White House says the Canadians made a bunch of
Speaker 2: unreasonable last minute demands and the entire thing collapsed. There's
Speaker 2: a lot of he said, she said in this but
Speaker 2: today Scott Vessant tore into Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney.
Speaker 2: Let's hear that cut seventeen.
Speaker 13: One Canada to become a state.
Speaker 9: He did say that they're getting all the benefits of
Speaker 9: being a state without being one.
Speaker 6: I think he would like Canada to come to the
Speaker 6: table and negotiating good faith. They were offering quite a
Speaker 6: good deal last week they chose to reject it. Unfortunately,
Speaker 6: Prime Minister Carnate Carney rose to power on an anti American,
Speaker 6: anti Trump platform. I believe it was more than twenty
Speaker 6: points behind. And you know, he seems to have gone
Speaker 6: back to his old playbook. And I think one has
Speaker 6: to ask oneself, is he trying to benefit himself, the
Speaker 6: Liberal Party or the Canadian people because they were offered
Speaker 6: a very good job.
Speaker 2: So yep, all right, so that was best And now
Speaker 2: I guess Mark Carney, the Prime Minister of Canada, has
Speaker 2: responded Cut eighteen.
Speaker 14: An attitude at the negotiation table that Canada is a
Speaker 14: subsidiary of the United States, the Canadian industry is going
Speaker 14: to be disadvantaged relative to American industry, that we're going
Speaker 14: to set up terms so that over time Canadian industry
Speaker 14: is going to face constant headwinds. That's not something we're
Speaker 14: going to accept. And that's before you get to constraints
Speaker 14: on our to do what the rest of the world wants,
Speaker 14: which is to sign trade deals with Canada.
Speaker 2: And finally, Vice President jd Vance, speaking just a little
Speaker 2: while ago up in Maine, he also had some harsh
Speaker 2: words for the Canadians, issuing this warning to Carney cut twenty.
Speaker 15: But we know that Canada allows itself to be used
Speaker 15: as a backdoor for Chinese goods. They treat Chinese goods
Speaker 15: more fairly than they do the goods that come from
Speaker 15: the people of Maine. It's insanity. And what we've said
Speaker 15: to Canada is stop it. Apply a basic principle of
Speaker 15: fairness to the trade that you're doing between North Dakota
Speaker 15: and Canada, between Maine and Canada. And what happened at
Speaker 15: the very end is that came in with a bunch
Speaker 15: of unreasonable last minute demands.
Speaker 1: I frankly thought we had a deal.
Speaker 15: I think that we should have a deal, But I
Speaker 15: think that we need to send a message loud and
Speaker 15: clear to the Prime Minister of Canada. Stop taking advantage
Speaker 15: of the people of Maine. Stop taking advantag of America.
Speaker 15: Gets over. We expect fairness in our trade policy, all right.
Speaker 2: Natalie Jackson's Center Line strategies Polster and columnists for National
Speaker 2: Journal remains on the line with us here at the
Speaker 2: Scott Jennings Show. Natalie, you're hearing the back and forth.
Speaker 2: A lot of this is political posturing. There are key
Speaker 2: Senate races going on in Maine, That's why JD. Vance
Speaker 2: is there. And also in Michigan. Some people are saying
Speaker 2: a trade war is going to hurt Republican chances.
Speaker 4: There.
Speaker 2: You heard Vance try to position the administration on it.
Speaker 2: What's your reaction.
Speaker 12: You know there's also Alaska involved. You know, there's a.
Speaker 13: Huge number of.
Speaker 12: Border miles at stake here, and I think it depends
Speaker 12: on what people see in their wallets. You know, our
Speaker 12: due prices go up by November. You know what's happening
Speaker 12: October November as people voting, I think that has the
Speaker 12: biggest impact on kind of how this situation with Canada
Speaker 12: plays out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, obviously, if people perceive a direct impact
Speaker 2: on their own personal financial situation based on this, yes,
Speaker 2: I agree with you. But I guess my question to
Speaker 2: you is as a campaign strategy, I'll give you the
Speaker 2: last word here.
Speaker 4: We're almost at a time.
Speaker 2: Do you think voters want to see the administration fighting
Speaker 2: against other countries that you know, they argue we're taking
Speaker 2: advantage of us, or would they just rather see deal announces,
Speaker 2: Oh we have a deal, here's some paper. What what
Speaker 2: do you think is sort of on the minds of voters?
Speaker 2: Fight or deal?
Speaker 13: I think right now it's deal.
Speaker 12: Just given the affordability crisis that a lot of people
Speaker 12: are facing, that we've been talking about for the last
Speaker 12: six years, you know, I think deals that give people
Speaker 12: some stability and assurance that the prices are not going
Speaker 12: to skyrocket again. I think that's as helpful as anything
Speaker 12: right now.
Speaker 11: All right.
Speaker 2: Natalie Jackson is a polster with center line strategies. Read
Speaker 2: her stuff in the National Journal. She publishes a column
Speaker 2: every week about public opinion trends. We're done for the day.
Speaker 2: We'll be back tomorrow. Great show coming up tomorrow, that column,
Speaker 2: this stuff in Seattle. Who got fired over his column,
Speaker 2: The sports Guy. He's going to be with us all
Speaker 2: that more tomorrow on The Scott Jenning Show.
Speaker 4: Thanks for listening.