1 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: Life Audio. 2 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 2: This conference is not for just the woman, like we said, 3 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:10,120 Speaker 2: who's celebrating her recovery. 4 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:12,960 Speaker 1: If you're struggling to get there, you do. 5 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 2: Need to come here. September is National Recovery Month. What 6 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 2: a great place to launch your recovery. I don't care 7 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 2: if you're not sober until the day before you come. 8 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 2: You could have this be your changed moment. I don't 9 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 2: know God's going to meet you here, and so are 10 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 2: all of us. 11 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 3: Welcome to Love Life Sober. I'm your host and your coach, 12 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:36,520 Speaker 3: Christy Osborne. This podcast is for the woman who loves 13 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 3: Jesus or is longing to reconnect with him, and who 14 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:42,639 Speaker 3: knows deep down that alcohol is no longer serving her. 15 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 3: Here we talk honestly, with grace and truth about how 16 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 3: stepping away from alcohol opens the door to the love, joy, 17 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 3: peace and connection you've been searching for. Because, Babe, those 18 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 3: things were never meant to be found in a bottle 19 00:00:55,600 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 3: of wine, They're found in Jesus. Through scripture, coaching and neuroscience, 20 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 3: I'll help you make sense of your habits, your nervous system, 21 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:06,320 Speaker 3: and what you're really craving so that freedom feels not 22 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 3: only possible, but sustainable. You don't have to do this alone, babe. 23 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 3: Let's dive in. Hello, my beautiful friend, Welcome back to 24 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 3: the Love Life Sober Podcast. Today is a very very 25 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 3: special episode because I have some of my friends joining 26 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 3: me who are either going to be speaking or. 27 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 4: Help me lead at the Aligned conference. 28 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 3: Now, if you haven't heard of what we are doing 29 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 3: in just a few weeks in Holland, Michigan, this podcast 30 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 3: episode is going to give you a small preview. 31 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:41,479 Speaker 4: Although, as you. 32 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 3: Will hear us talk about, so many of us have 33 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 3: known each other for a little bit of time and 34 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 3: we are so excited to just get in a room 35 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 3: together for the very very first time. So today on 36 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 3: the podcast, you're going to be hearing from Caroline Biedler, 37 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 3: Eric Anderson, John Seidel, as well as three of the 38 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 3: gals on the Love Life Sober Leadership team, Susan, Cindy 39 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 3: and Heather. We're going to talk about why we're excited 40 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 3: to be together in person. We're going to talk about 41 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 3: some of the conference topics that we are going to 42 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 3: discuss and learn about. We are going to hype you 43 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 3: up with some of the surprises we have and so 44 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 3: hopefully for the many of you who have already registered. 45 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:29,239 Speaker 3: This conversation is going to get you even more excited 46 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 3: and for the gals on the fence, hopefully when you 47 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:36,959 Speaker 3: hear how excited and what we have planned for you, 48 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 3: you will want to join us. Head to the link 49 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 3: in the show notes. There are going to be two 50 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 3: things that you can find there. Two links. First is 51 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 3: going to be the Aligned website with all of the 52 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 3: information on that website. We have links to hotels where 53 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 3: we have room blocks. We have the best airport to 54 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 3: fly into if you're flying, which is Grand Rapids, kind 55 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 3: of a rough rundown of the Tuesday Wednesday, Thursday, September 56 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 3: twenty second to the twenty fourth. We're starting on the 57 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 3: Tuesday night with a mocktail hour and we're finishing up 58 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 3: on Thursday. So this is an exciting conversation. I hope 59 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:13,639 Speaker 3: that when you get done listening to this that you 60 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 3: want to, as Caroline says, just run into the room 61 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 3: with us and give us all massive hugs. We are 62 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 3: so excited to see you. We are so excited Sherry 63 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 3: Hoppin and I to be hosting the very first ever 64 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 3: Christian woman's alcohol free conference. It is going to be 65 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 3: so incredibly special God is going to move in this room. 66 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 4: I just know it. 67 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 3: I cannot wait to see you this talk a little 68 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 3: bit about what. 69 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 4: Our beautiful speakers are going to be talking about. 70 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: Who wants to start? I'll start. 71 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 4: Yes, Caroline introduced yourself. 72 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: I name is Caroline Bibler. I'm a woman in recovery. 73 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 5: I love Jesus and I'm just grateful to be with 74 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 5: you all in a virtual room today. 75 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: And you all, I can't wait. 76 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 5: I feel like I'm going to run at you all, 77 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 5: So I don't know, be prepared to either like catch 78 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 5: me in the air. 79 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: I don't know. 80 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 5: If you're not a hugger, you got to wear a 81 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 5: shirt like a sign because I'm in a hug you all. 82 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 4: So anyways, I just have to say that. 83 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 5: But I just love recovery so much, so I do 84 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 5: a couple things related to that today. Just in my 85 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 5: professional life, recovery is a huge part of what happens 86 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 5: in my home and my family. So it's not just 87 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 5: something that is my own personal journey, but it's something 88 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 5: that my kiddo is, my husband, my community. It's like 89 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 5: we're all on in this together. And for my day job, 90 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,479 Speaker 5: I work for recovery dot Com, So I'm a managing 91 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 5: editor there, but I also just have a heart for 92 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 5: advocacy and building community. And so what that looks like 93 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 5: in my local community in Eastern Tennessee is connecting with 94 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 5: churches and recovery ministries, teaching about stigma and how churches 95 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 5: can open their doors to those of us in recovery 96 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 5: and kind of bridge this gap between like the recovery 97 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 5: community over here and the faith community over here. And 98 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 5: that's what when I started my journe it was very 99 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 5: much a separate experience, and so I'm learning over time, 100 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 5: and I feel like God is leading me to have 101 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 5: those more connected and be able to speak to others 102 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 5: about it, write about it, and hopefully encourage churches and 103 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 5: Christians to be able to support, encourage recovery, and maybe 104 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:20,359 Speaker 5: decide they want it for themselves. I'll be talking about 105 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 5: at the conference a new talk, so I'm putting it 106 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 5: together as we speak, and please would welcome your prayers. 107 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 5: But it's called from Numb to Known, and so I 108 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 5: really want to explore with attendees what it means to 109 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 5: go from living a life of hiding, of darkness, of 110 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 5: not being present in our life, but not just that 111 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:42,359 Speaker 5: but not present with our creator. I think for me, 112 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 5: substances including alcohols, separated me from a relationship with God 113 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 5: for so long, and I didn't realize that separation and 114 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 5: my desire to run away and to numb the pain 115 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:57,919 Speaker 5: that I had experienced, the trauma. How destructive that was 116 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:00,359 Speaker 5: not just to my mental health, physical health health, but 117 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 5: my spiritual health. 118 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 1: And so I'm going to be looking at scripture related 119 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 1: to that. 120 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 5: And yeah, just really excited to tell some personal stories 121 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 5: and connect. 122 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 1: With people and learn more about how we can. 123 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 5: Move from being numb to what it means to be 124 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 5: known by God and feel good about being in God's 125 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 5: presence without shame, and then also being known in community 126 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 5: with others, similar to how many of you all know 127 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 5: my deepest, darkest secrets and fears. 128 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: John brought maybe more than most. 129 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:31,479 Speaker 5: Eric, We've had some deep conversations, so anyways, but I'm 130 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 5: looking forward to being with you all in person. 131 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 4: I love that so. 132 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 3: Much, Caroline, and I love that this is what you're 133 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 3: speaking on. So I'm so glad that you're going to 134 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:42,799 Speaker 3: be talking about that, and I can't wait to hug 135 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 3: you in person as well. 136 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:46,160 Speaker 4: I'm Erica, will you. 137 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 3: Do a little intro and then talk a little bit 138 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 3: about what you're going to be talking about. 139 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 6: Sure, yeah, thank you for having me. I mean, for 140 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 6: everyone that's coming to the conference. My name's Erica. I 141 00:06:56,080 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 6: live in Indiana and I'm about to celebrate six years song. 142 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: So that is exciting. 143 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 6: It feels insane, feels like wow, I can't I can't 144 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 6: believe time has passed. This much time has passed and 145 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 6: I'm still I'm still in here doing this and I'm 146 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 6: a writer, and like many of us here, I'm a writer, 147 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 6: and I've been really fortunate to be able to write 148 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 6: about women and alcoholism and the faith aspect, and a 149 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 6: lot of these places, like in the New York Times, 150 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 6: in the Wall Street Journal, USA Today and Christianity Today 151 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 6: is a place where I was able to write a 152 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 6: big article about Christian women and alcohol a couple of 153 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 6: years ago, just how I connected with. 154 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: Caroline and Sherry initially, and I'm. 155 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 6: So glad I did because we've been hanging out ever 156 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 6: since then, which brought me to everyone else. And so 157 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 6: I feel very thankful that God has given me the 158 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 6: opportunity to be able to write about these things in 159 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 6: such a big way. And then I had my book 160 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 6: come out this January, Freely Sober, Rethinking Alcohol through the 161 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 6: Lens of Faith, which just took you know, the past 162 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 6: three or four years of that writing and then my 163 00:07:56,320 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 6: own story and put it together and really just to 164 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 6: be biblical guidance, a little bit of memoir, and then 165 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 6: also journalism, and I think for all of us here, 166 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 6: I can accurately say that the data side of what 167 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 6: alcohol has done to our bodies and minds has been 168 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 6: really important to what brought us to recovery. I wouldn't 169 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 6: say that's you know, everything, but a lot For a 170 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 6: lot of people that I've spoken to in my groups, 171 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 6: in your groups, understanding the impact that alcohol has on 172 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 6: our mental and physical health is one really important aspect 173 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 6: of what has been empowering to bring us to a 174 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 6: place where we felt like, yeah, this is something that 175 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 6: we really do want to overcome and get out of 176 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 6: our lives. 177 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: For just a variety of reasons, that being one of them. 178 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 6: And so that's a lot of the things that I 179 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 6: write about as well. And I am just excited to 180 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 6: be there in person. I have not met everyone here 181 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 6: in person yet, so I've only met Sherry in person, 182 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 6: but the rest of you. 183 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 1: I'm so excited to say. 184 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 6: Hello, and I know that several women from my group 185 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 6: that I've been running, the Freedom Circle are going to 186 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:00,040 Speaker 6: be there in person as well. There's nothing like the 187 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 6: the power of the in person experience. I mean, you 188 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 6: can be in a room online over and over and 189 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 6: over again, but to actually like be sitting next to someone, 190 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 6: it is ten times more powerful. And so that's why 191 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 6: I just know that good things are going to happen. 192 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 6: And you know, even though we are not a church specifically, 193 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 6: we are the church, and we're going to be the 194 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 6: church together, and God works so powerfully in that kind 195 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 6: of community, and the Holy Spirit just shows up in 196 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 6: ways that I'm sorry just are not possible through a screen. 197 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 6: So that that's one reason I'm just so pumped to 198 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 6: be there. 199 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 1: The talk that I'm going to. 200 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 6: Give is really about the myth that I believed for 201 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,839 Speaker 6: many years that I just didn't have a strong enough faith, 202 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 6: the myth that I believed that there was something wrong 203 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 6: with me and my relationship with God. Because I struggled 204 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 6: with this and because I had that belief for so long, 205 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 6: that is really what put off recovery for me, because 206 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 6: I just felt like I didn't deserve it or I 207 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 6: didn't there was just like this barrier, this life that 208 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 6: I had been believing from from the enemy that I 209 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 6: wasn't you know, I wasn't the kind of person that 210 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 6: this was going to work for. And I had to 211 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 6: you know, almost get better on the inside before I 212 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 6: could do this. And it's like no, Like that's the 213 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 6: whole promise of the Gospel is like just you come 214 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 6: as you are and then He fixes you, you know, 215 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:20,319 Speaker 6: once you're there. 216 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: And so that is going to be the topic of. 217 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 6: My talk and share a little bit of my story, 218 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 6: and I hope that that can really speak to someone 219 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 6: who maybe has that feeling as well. And to know 220 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 6: that like giving up drinking is only one part of 221 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 6: how you're going to draw closer to God, is not 222 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 6: even necessarily the most important part. And we've got to 223 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 6: take the pressure off ourselves to be perfect in order 224 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 6: to begin flourishing in our faith again and to get 225 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 6: closer to the Lord. 226 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 1: So that's what I'm going to talk about. 227 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 6: And I hope if you're listening and you're on the fence, 228 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 6: I really hope that you come. 229 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 1: We're so excited to see you there. 230 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 3: We'll be back right after a click word from our sponsors. 231 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 3: Thank you, Eric, It's going to be so so good 232 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 3: this is And what are your most excited about? 233 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 7: Oh, I am so excited to meet you in person, Christy. 234 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 7: We've known each other now for five years, and just 235 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 7: meet Heather, to meet Cindy, to meet all of you 236 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 7: who I actually am becoming familiar with. But I'm also 237 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 7: super excited about this opportunity to pray in person with 238 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 7: all the women that are coming. I just really feel 239 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 7: in my spirit that chains are really going to be broken. 240 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 7: So I'm really hoping that women come, not only who 241 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 7: are already alcohol free or sober that are working on it, 242 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 7: because I know that, you know, you can feel like, oh, 243 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 7: I shouldn't go. 244 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: I really can't go if I'm. 245 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 7: Not like already successful or whatever, and I just feel like, no, 246 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 7: this is for you, because I feel like the in 247 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 7: person prayer, the worship just coming together. I've been coaching 248 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 7: in the secular space, sobriety space for. 249 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: A long time. 250 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:54,959 Speaker 7: I've been to many many secular conferences and retreats, et cetera. 251 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 7: But the idea of sober sisters and Christian sisters coming 252 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 7: together and in the sobriety space is just so awesome 253 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 7: and so powerful, and I'm just I'm so blessed to 254 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 7: be a part of the Love Life Sober Team. It's 255 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 7: really God has just been speaking to me and I'm 256 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 7: just going fully all in. I happen to draw Christian 257 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:17,479 Speaker 7: women so many and most of my clients are Christians. 258 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:19,319 Speaker 7: But now I'm like, Okay, now I'm out there. I'm 259 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 7: going to start marketing it. That is who I'm here for. 260 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 7: So it will really help your journey because it helped 261 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 7: mine my first sober retreat and it wasn't Christian, but 262 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 7: adding the element of the Holy Spirit, I mean, come on, 263 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 7: it's just like, yeah, it's just so good. 264 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 1: Combination is going to be amazing. So I'm super excited. 265 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: So good. 266 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 3: One of the things that I'm like most excited about 267 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 3: is I've asked some of the gals who are clients 268 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 3: turned leaders in my community to give their testimonies, and 269 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 3: so two of those are Heather and Cindy, who are here. 270 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 3: I mean, Heather, you've given your testimony at church and 271 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:58,959 Speaker 3: on the podcast. What are you excited to share? Kind 272 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 3: of a little sniff at this time. 273 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:03,439 Speaker 8: Wow, I'm just so honored to be here, and I'm 274 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 8: going to be like Caroline just jumping up and like 275 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 8: running and attacking people with hugs. So hopefully I will 276 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:13,559 Speaker 8: laugh and more than I cry this time. And Susan, 277 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 8: that was so beautiful, because I think that's what I 278 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 8: am so excited about, too, is just loving on these 279 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 8: ladies that are, you know, possibly still struggling and still 280 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 8: working on breaking free and just sharing that this is, 281 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 8: you know, a lifelong journey and it's not, you know, 282 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 8: this is just the beginning of what God is. 283 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 9: Doing in our lives and in the community. And I'm 284 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 9: just honored to sit at this table. I honestly kind 285 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 9: of pinched myself every once in a while I got 286 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 9: just talk about being known. I feel like just I'm 287 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 9: coming out as a as a Jesus lover. I feel 288 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 9: like for the first time in my walk, and I've 289 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 9: been a Christian for over twenty. 290 00:13:55,000 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 10: Years, just to really be known as someone who loves 291 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 10: Jesus and wants to lead others to Jesus is probably 292 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 10: the biggest blessing at this community. Sorry, no, You're good 293 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 10: that I cannot talk without tears. 294 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 4: Cindy, what about you? What are you excited for? What 295 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 4: are you excited to share? 296 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:17,559 Speaker 11: Hi? 297 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 12: Everyone, I'm Cindy Johnson. I have known Christy. Oh you're 298 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 12: gonna have to help me Christy a couple of years. 299 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 4: It feels like my whole life. 300 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 12: Yeah, I'm giving my testimony and I'm still chatting about 301 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 12: this with the Holy Spirit about what to say because 302 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 12: I'm older than most of you and I have a 303 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 12: lot of. 304 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 4: Directions I could go. 305 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 12: What I want to really talk about with these women 306 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 12: is I was full time Christian ministry, employed at a 307 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 12: church and drinking heavily. 308 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 4: And thank you. 309 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: John for that nod as well? Yeah the two we do? 310 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 12: Yeah, okay, Verry awesome, Okay, I'm not alone in this, 311 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 12: Praise God. I know we're really never alone, and that 312 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 12: I wanted to talk about living the dichotomy, right, living 313 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 12: in two worlds and the pain and the dancing and 314 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 12: the lying, and I not. I don't want to do 315 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 12: that to say yay me. I want to do that 316 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 12: to give women hope, like we've all done it one 317 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 12: way or the other, whether we work at a church 318 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 12: or not, that there is there is hope and I'm 319 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 12: proof of that hope. 320 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: So good. 321 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:30,359 Speaker 4: I love that, Sherry, what do you think. 322 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 2: I too have been all over the place. But what 323 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 2: I do want to say here is something about a line. 324 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 2: So if you're listening to this, or if you've been 325 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:41,479 Speaker 2: debating about I've been thinking about. 326 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: Who is Aligned for? 327 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 2: And Susie, you've talked about this a little bit, don't 328 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 2: ignore the power of the invitation. 329 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, because the invitation it has it has the power 330 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: to change someone's life. So who do you invite? Or 331 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: if you're listening, this invitation is for you? 332 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 2: Because what happens when you sit at the table with 333 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 2: someone who understand stands how you feel, whether you're in 334 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 2: a place of desperation because you've tried everything, or you're 335 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 2: there you've quit, but you feel so alone. 336 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 1: You need a community all the things. That's what Aligned 337 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: is all about. 338 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 2: And I spent the first few years in recovery so 339 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 2: alone until I started finding a community. And when I did, 340 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 2: I realized in a faith based community, I knew what 341 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 2: was missing. And I felt like once I found my people, 342 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 2: my recovery lit up and my faith lit up, and 343 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 2: we empower each other. 344 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 1: And that's where ALIGNE. 345 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 2: That's where our conversation Christie and I started about this 346 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 2: and why is it so hard to get you to 347 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 2: come to this conference because I think Christian women, I 348 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 2: think we have a little bit more pride, which also 349 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 2: means we have a little bit more shame. 350 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 1: Shouldn't we have known better? 351 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 2: And I'm encouraging you to let that go because there 352 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 2: is nothing better than being in a community with someone 353 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 2: who knows how you feel and is going to rejoice 354 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 2: with you and celebrate with you. And this conference is 355 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 2: now for just a woman, like we said, who's celebrating 356 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 2: her recovery. If you're struggling to get there, you do 357 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:10,159 Speaker 2: need to come here. September is National Recovery Month. What 358 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 2: a great place to launch your recovery. I don't care 359 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 2: if you're not sober until the day before you come. 360 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 2: You could have this be your changed moment. 361 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. God's going to meet you here, and 362 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 1: so are all of us. 363 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 2: You can also come if you want to learn how 364 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 2: to love someone better that's in recovery. Carolyn's I'm sure 365 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,199 Speaker 2: going to speak greatly into that, as she does in 366 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 2: her book, How to Love Someone in Recovery. One of 367 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 2: the things I hear at Salehouse our rehab all the 368 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 2: time is I wish they understood me better, will come 369 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 2: to understand the one you love better, come to learn 370 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 2: how to support them better. But come to find your 371 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 2: people and celebrate with them, and come to get to 372 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 2: know us. I guarantee you you're going to leave forever changed. 373 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 2: That's just a guarantee. And it's not always going to 374 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 2: be about who you spend your time with, or who 375 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 2: you sit by or help many people. I know when 376 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 2: I get there, none of that's going to matter. What 377 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 2: matters is that you come, and I promise God's going. 378 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:11,159 Speaker 4: To meet you there. I'm so excited, Mike, drop. 379 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:17,439 Speaker 11: Like drop Okay, John, listen, I'm excited for this on 380 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 11: a lot of levels. I think fun is contagious. Excitement 381 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 11: is contagious, right, And so when we are all laughing 382 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 11: like girls, including me, when we finally meet each other, 383 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:34,400 Speaker 11: I'm hoping that everyone else will laugh and enjoy each 384 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:37,399 Speaker 11: other the same way. I'm reading a manuscript for a 385 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 11: couple that wrote a book, and and it's it's been 386 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 11: one of those experiences that I've had with a lot 387 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 11: of your books where you start reading it and like 388 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 11: you just you're just like, oh my gosh. And it's 389 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:56,679 Speaker 11: not necessarily that you're reading anything novel or new, but 390 00:18:56,720 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 11: when you read something and you feel known and seen 391 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 11: and understood and not alone like you just I'm like, 392 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:10,199 Speaker 11: I'm crying reading this book and it's nothing that I 393 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 11: don't know already, but you're just like, my gosh, I'm 394 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:17,439 Speaker 11: not as weird or as crazy or as awful or 395 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:20,679 Speaker 11: as far gone as I thought I was right, And 396 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:24,679 Speaker 11: I'm excited for those moments that people will get when 397 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 11: they're listening to Erica or Sherry or Susan or Caroline 398 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,880 Speaker 11: or Heather or Cindy or Christy maybe me. I think 399 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 11: that is powerful. So in some ways, if you're listening 400 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 11: to the podcast like you're kind of on the fence, 401 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:40,120 Speaker 11: it's like, I'm not going to promise you that everything 402 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 11: you hear will be new, and yet that's still worth it. 403 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:46,719 Speaker 11: What I want people to take away from this is 404 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 11: I can talk on radical vulnerability, right, and I'm like, maybe. 405 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 1: That's it, right. 406 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:53,919 Speaker 11: But what I feel really drawn to you as I 407 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 11: prayed about this is I want people to understand what 408 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 11: I call and it's not my term. I didn't come 409 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:04,479 Speaker 11: up with it, but like gospel centered recovery, like what 410 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 11: it is, why it's important and why like you don't 411 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,880 Speaker 11: have to be ashamed of it, because I think sometimes 412 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 11: we get kind of scared if you will to be 413 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 11: so open about taking a faith forward approach, and so 414 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 11: like I want people to like be excited and understand, like, 415 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 11: if you are a Christian, here's what it means to 416 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 11: be gospel centered in your approach, and you don't have 417 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,640 Speaker 11: to be ashamed of that. And if you can't find 418 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 11: circles that appreciate that, guess what. We're gonna have plenty 419 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 11: of people at this conference who have circles where you 420 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 11: will be welcomed and celebrated. As a Christian, I have 421 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 11: to believe that the best form of recovery is a 422 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:49,479 Speaker 11: gospel centered approach, and so I'm going to outline that 423 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:53,679 Speaker 11: and lay that out and hopefully people will be encouraged 424 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,400 Speaker 11: and then like take it back right. That doesn't mean 425 00:20:56,440 --> 00:21:00,679 Speaker 11: that the other tools, whether it's twelve step recovery or whatnot, 426 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 11: art are to be abandoned or pushed aside or can't 427 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,959 Speaker 11: be tools, But I want to I want women to 428 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 11: leave encouraged to kind of start, if you will, a 429 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 11: gospel centered recovery movement where they're at. 430 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: Can I can I chime in on something. 431 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, of course, I was. 432 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 1: Just going to say. 433 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 6: Just made me think of my experience in the secular 434 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 6: recovery world, which again I've said has been was wonderful 435 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,160 Speaker 6: and important for me in the time that I had 436 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 6: it in the beginning, especially, but at the end of 437 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 6: the day, like there was always something missing. And that's 438 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,400 Speaker 6: why I started looking for my people in the Christian world, 439 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:38,400 Speaker 6: because I was like, I'm not one hundred percent aligning 440 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 6: with these other groups because Jesus is not a part 441 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 6: of it. And so that is what set me out 442 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 6: on this journey to find my people and to write 443 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:50,239 Speaker 6: my book and to bring Christian women together. And I 444 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 6: was just talking to one of the women in my 445 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 6: group recently and she was telling me, you know, I 446 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 6: was in this with secular recovery group and one of 447 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:01,159 Speaker 6: the things they always said was sobriety your superpower. And 448 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 6: I'm sure we've all heard that before, and I get 449 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 6: this sentiment behind it, but she's like, it was just 450 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,719 Speaker 6: so empty to me because that is not our superpower, 451 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 6: Like that is not where our strength comes from. And 452 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:15,880 Speaker 6: so I think there's just something so distinct and different 453 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 6: about a group like this, And like what John was 454 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 6: saying about a gospel centered recovery. It is not the 455 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 6: same as all of those other groups and things out there, 456 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 6: And so I think for the Christian like those things 457 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 6: can be helpful that this is this is the place 458 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 6: where you're really going to feel seen and. 459 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 1: Find I don't know, the pathway that. 460 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 6: You're not seeing everywhere else necessarily, and really find your 461 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 6: people in a way that I was searching for for 462 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,120 Speaker 6: so many years and then found them. 463 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: And so we just we want you to be there 464 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 1: and be able to experience. 465 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 11: That, you know, real quickly, not to get too far 466 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 11: down the rabbit hole. But I just remember I was 467 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 11: listening to someone Pendullet talk, you know, Penn and Teller, right, 468 00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 11: and he's like a very famous atheist, and he said, 469 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 11: you know, I had a Christian friend once asked me, Hey, Penn, 470 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 11: you know, do you get annoyed that I'm constantly trying 471 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 11: to like save you, that I'm constantly trying to point 472 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 11: out why God is real, why you need to follow Jesus, 473 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 11: and the dangers of not doing so. And Penn said, 474 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 11: I told that guy, if he actually believes what he 475 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 11: says he believes, he better try to convince me because 476 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 11: if he's right, then it's really bad for me. Right, 477 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 11: And so I think what part of if you will 478 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 11: the heart behind aligned, if we truly believe that incorporating 479 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 11: our faith and that pursuing in a sense like Gospel 480 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 11: Senator approach is right, if Jesus is who he says 481 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 11: he is, then we owe it to people to carry 482 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 11: that message. 483 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's so good. 484 00:23:56,400 --> 00:24:00,159 Speaker 3: We'll be back right after a quick word from our sponsors. 485 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 3: I was just listening to you guys and gals. I 486 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 3: was thinking about just all of the wisdom that's going 487 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 3: to be shared. But I just want to also add 488 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,919 Speaker 3: that Sherry and I have so much fun planned as well, 489 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 3: Like this is not a conference where we're going to 490 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 3: be stuck in seats the whole time. Like we have 491 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 3: so many exciting things planned for the gals that are attending, 492 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,199 Speaker 3: and we have been working really really hard behind the 493 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:27,439 Speaker 3: scenes to just create surprises but also like moments, because 494 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 3: as we've all talked about, the connection is so so important, 495 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 3: and of course, like John said, maybe you won't hear 496 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:37,400 Speaker 3: anything new, but maybe you're going to connect with someone 497 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 3: at a coffee break or the mocktail hour, or or 498 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,680 Speaker 3: someone that you've never met before. That's going to be 499 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 3: a literal, lifetime long friend for you. And so we 500 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 3: have so so many exciting things planned. We're going to 501 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 3: put the link to the conference in the show notes, 502 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 3: but I'm also going to put the link to the 503 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 3: online space in the show notes where you don't have 504 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 3: to be a love Life Sober community member or any 505 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 3: of the communities here represented member. This is a space 506 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 3: that you can come if you want to talk about 507 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 3: logistics or just get excited with us. That's an open, 508 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 3: free space to come and hang out. And so we'll 509 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 3: put that in the show notes as well. Is there 510 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 3: anything that you wanted to add, Sherry before we wrap? 511 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 2: We have a lot of fun things planned. If you know, 512 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 2: Christy and I were not like sit in the seat 513 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 2: and just talk. People were kind of fun. 514 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:36,360 Speaker 4: I mean I think we are kind of yeah, I mean. 515 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 1: If you know, we like to have fun. 516 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:42,959 Speaker 2: So this is not going to be your average women's conference. 517 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 2: So one thing that if you've ever thought, can sobriety 518 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 2: be fun, We're here to prove it. 519 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 1: Yes, it is fun. 520 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 2: We're going to have a riot and where the conference 521 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,879 Speaker 2: is going to be in Holland a little partial you 522 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 2: know it is my stomping grounds, but it's an amazing 523 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:03,680 Speaker 2: Areamber is beautiful here, so I'm so excited. 524 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 3: If you have any questions, please let us know. We 525 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 3: are so so happy to help. We have an incredible team. 526 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 3: You've heard from some of them today and I'm so 527 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 3: so excited. I love all of you. I can't wait. 528 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 3: Thank you for being here today. Thank you for your time. 529 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 3: It's so valuable and I appreciate each of you. And 530 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 3: we will see you in September. Thanks guys, Thanks everybody, 531 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 3: Thank you for spending. 532 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 4: This time with me on Love Life Sober. 533 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:35,160 Speaker 3: If today's conversation stirred something in your heart, don't rush 534 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 3: past it, take it to prayer. If you're feeling ready 535 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 3: for deeper connection and support, I'd love to invite you 536 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 3: into the Love Life Sober community, a grace filled, shame 537 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 3: free space where real connection grows and lasting change takes root. 538 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 4: You can find the link to join us in the 539 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 4: show notes. 540 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:56,120 Speaker 3: Love Life Sober is part of the Life Audio podcast Network, 541 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 3: where faith centered podcasts help you grow deeper in your 542 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 3: walk with Christ. You can find more faith centered podcasts 543 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 3: at liveaudio dot com. Until next time, be gentle with yourself, 544 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 3: stay curious, and trust God's promises. 545 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:11,159 Speaker 4: He has freedom waiting for you.