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Speaker 1: My name is Charlie Kirk. I run the largest pro

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Speaker 1: American student organization in the country, fighting for the future

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Speaker 2: My call is to fight evil and to proclaim truth.

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Speaker 1: If the most important thing for you is just feeling good,

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Speaker 3: Go start atturning point.

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Speaker 1: Yould say high school chapter. Go find out how your

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Speaker 3: Sign up and become an activist.

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Speaker 1: I gave my life to the Lord in fifth grade,

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Speaker 3: Here I am Lord, Use me.

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Speaker 1: Buckle up, everybody, Here we go. The Charlie Kirk Show

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Speaker 4: All right, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. It is

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Speaker 4: March twenty fourth, twenty twenty sixth Blake, how you doing.

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Speaker 5: I was better a few minutes ago.

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Speaker 4: Yeahrew, And we will get into that in just a second.

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Speaker 4: So moments ago, a new report from journalist Michael Schellenberger dropped.

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Speaker 4: As you know, yesterday we covered the backstory, but what

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Speaker 4: really happened with the screen grabs? The notorious screen grabs

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Speaker 4: now and I revealed to this audience that I did,

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Speaker 4: in fact share that screen grab with Joe Kent, and

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Speaker 4: Joe suggested that I leak that publicly.

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Speaker 3: I declined.

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Speaker 4: He actually went back through our messages and he suggested

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Speaker 4: Obviously, those were private messages. I wanted to keep them

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Speaker 3: I thought that it was honoring my anyway.

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Speaker 4: So this new report comes out from Schollenberger and it says,

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Speaker 4: So this is obviously a huge bombshell and escalates everything

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Speaker 4: to a much bigger level. I have reached out to

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Speaker 4: This is different. Joe Kent was a government official at

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Speaker 6: Yes, I mean, let's just recite it where he says Kent,

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Speaker 6: this is Shellenberger's reporting on substick. Kent said he knew

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Speaker 5: It's not something I'm seeking.

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Speaker 6: When pressed that his testimony could help the Robinson defense,

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Speaker 4: And we're gonna, like I said, be talking to Michael Schllenberger.

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Speaker 6: Like, let's refresh, people, there is a murder weapon that

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Speaker 6: That is the most obvious piece of evidence in the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you should be. And this this is.

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Speaker 4: Never mentioned one time about the Jews, Okay, never once.

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Speaker 4: We have to call it out because if this ends

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Speaker 4: This is an actual government official who's now going to

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Speaker 4: As we mentioned earlier, we were going to be joined

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the show. Michael. It's great to have you.

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Speaker 4: Thank you for you know, we talked this morning after

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Speaker 7: I mean I think it's pretty big news. Joe Can,

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Speaker 6: So two questions for you, Michael. So, first of all,

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Speaker 4: Here's what I want everybody to know. Shortly after Tyler

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Speaker 7: really not there's just not anything.

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Speaker 2: Here that would suggest that there's a cover.

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Speaker 7: Up going on that I'm seeing, or that anybody else

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Speaker 7: was involved, you know, then Tyler Robinson, you know, and

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Speaker 7: I think Ken at one point sort of or a

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Speaker 7: couple of points maybe in the interview sort of agreed

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Speaker 7: that you don't need anybody else.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Tyler Robinson.

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Speaker 7: You know, it appears from the evidence has been released

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Speaker 7: so far, there's ample motive and a lot of evidence

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Speaker 7: that he did it. So I don't I just don't

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Speaker 7: see the need to add something else to it. And

451
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Speaker 7: again you would think, well, maybe it's just for fun

452
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Speaker 7: and you know, just you know, you know, podcasting entertainment.

453
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Speaker 7: But in this case, I think the consequences could be

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Speaker 7: quite serious.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's what I think we're all terrified of.

456
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Speaker 4: And I just want to make a point here. I

457
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Speaker 4: am for asking questions this is why I shared the

458
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Speaker 4: group chat with Joe Kent in the first place. I'm

459
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Speaker 4: not afraid of the answer to those questions. If Israel

460
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Speaker 4: had a hand in killing Charlie, I want to know,

461
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Speaker 4: I wanted to know. What I'm telling you is that

462
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Speaker 4: we've had six months plus since that time to track

463
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Speaker 4: down all those leads, none of which have been corroborated,

464
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Speaker 4: none of which have actionable evidence behind, none of which

465
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Speaker 4: have been presented in any way, shape or form to

466
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Speaker 4: suggest there was there was a probable that there's any.

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Speaker 6: Evidence, overwhelming evidence, very rapidly trial.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I am willing to ask the hard questions. We

469
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Speaker 4: want the truth. But when there's no evidence and there's

470
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Speaker 4: no facts that would back up those questions, then you

471
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Speaker 4: have to say, okay, moving on, all right, you couldn't

472
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Speaker 4: corroborate it, Okay. So I'm not anti asking questions, I'm

473
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Speaker 4: not anti conspiracy theories. I'm I'm open to it all, okay,

474
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Speaker 4: but you have to have facts. In the recklessness with

475
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Speaker 4: which these accusations are being thrown out now has real

476
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Speaker 4: world implications, and I just it's this brain rot, Michael

477
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Speaker 4: that's driving me insane. Being on the other side of it,

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Speaker 4: I will never look at a conspiracy theory the same

479
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Speaker 4: way having been on this side of it, because people

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Speaker 4: make jumps to conclude. They jump to conclusions, they connect

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Speaker 4: disparate pieces of evidence, and they connect them in ways

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Speaker 4: that don't make any sense. So anyways, I guess final

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Speaker 4: minute to you, Michael, where does this leave us? And

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Speaker 4: what do you expect to happen next?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: I mean for me, you know, i'ven worked on this

487
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Speaker 7: for now a couple of days, and really it's been

488
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Speaker 7: heavy focus on it. I kind of walk away, just

489
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Speaker 7: reminded that these restrictions on what intelligence agencies can do

490
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Speaker 7: are really good and important, and we wouldn't want to

491
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Speaker 7: reduce those protections. I'm not seeing evidence of a wider conspiracy.

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Speaker 7: I don't think anyone's presented evidence of that. I am

493
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Speaker 7: very worried about this affecting the trial. I think most people,

494
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Speaker 7: when they think about what's occurred now, would share that concern.

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Speaker 7: And you know, I think that people sometimes want to

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Speaker 7: have a bigger meaning for the Charlie Kirk assassination, like

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Speaker 7: it couldn't just be one guy. I mean, because the

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Speaker 7: assassination is just it's one of the of the you know,

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Speaker 7: most significant political assassinations in American history, and so to

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Speaker 7: kind of go as just a guy, you know, you

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Speaker 7: know that had a maybe a furry fetish and a

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Speaker 7: trans identified boyfriend. I think for a lot of people

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Speaker 7: that might feel like not big enough or something or

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Speaker 7: significant enough.

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Speaker 2: And I would say it is big enough. What's I mean?

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Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk's whole legacy is tied up with him not

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Speaker 2: going along.

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Speaker 7: With the idea that he needed to agree with a

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Speaker 7: belief that you could change your sex.

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Speaker 4: Or that men it could become and it's a powerful

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Speaker 4: inside Michael, We've got to wrap it up.

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Speaker 3: That's a powerful insight.

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Speaker 4: The it's not psychologically satisfying enough the truth for some people,

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Speaker 4: but the truth has to be the truth at some point.

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Speaker 4: Blake and Jack Pisobic did a pick up the mic event?

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Speaker 8: We did?

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Speaker 3: Yes, we did? We did? How'd it go?

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Speaker 5: I was super nervous beforehand and once it began.

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Speaker 3: I love that about you that you're willing to admit

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Speaker 3: that you were nervous.

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Speaker 5: You know, That's actually what we talked about.

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Speaker 6: We spoke for a few minutes and I just talked,

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Speaker 6: you know, I know, obviously Charlie is far more memorable, remembered,

577
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 6: looked up to than I'm so I talked about the

578
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 6: process that went into it. It's a conversation I had

579
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Speaker 6: with Brian on our team once where he said one

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Speaker 6: of the most common questions Charlie we get is Charlie,

581
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Speaker 6: how can I be like you?

582
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Speaker 5: And Brian would.

583
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Speaker 6: Say they don't actually want to be like him because

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Speaker 6: it's a ton of work, because Charlie had to be

585
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Speaker 6: so disciplined with his time in a way that most

586
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 6: people just cannot manage. He was studying all the time,

587
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 6: he was prepping all the time, always, and I told

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Speaker 6: the story, you know, the last conversation I had with him,

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00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 6: you know, why is monogamy great? Like, let's get all

590
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Speaker 6: the talking points we were It was a great conversation,

591
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Speaker 6: but it was also that was daily life for him,

592
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 6: always getting those talking points, and that Charlie. Uh, he

593
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 6: succeeded so much because he failed so much that any

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Speaker 6: debate he didn't do perfectly any debate. I mean, he

595
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Speaker 6: lost some debates, and that was always the chance to

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Speaker 6: get better. So we talked about that at the start,

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Speaker 6: which I thought was a very good tribute to him.

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Speaker 8: Uh.

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Speaker 5: And then they asked us questions a lot of different.

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Speaker 6: Ones, and I finally felt what it was.

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Speaker 5: Like to be Charlie.

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Speaker 3: And did you get challenged? What kind of questions they

603
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Speaker 3: asked you? Man?

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Speaker 5: I didn't join in this one.

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Speaker 6: Jack got a question about the Spanish Civil War, which

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Speaker 6: I'm a big history dark so I kind of wanted

607
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Speaker 6: to jump in, but it was aimed.

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Speaker 5: At Jack because Jack had talked about it.

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Speaker 6: We got a question about anti semitism on the riot,

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Speaker 6: so that was that was a good one to answer,

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Speaker 6: because let's be real.

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Speaker 5: It is going up, it is increasing. It is something

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Speaker 5: we run into a lot. I think I did an

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Speaker 5: okay answer on that.

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Speaker 6: I think there's a few things I would have added

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Speaker 6: if I could have, if I could revisit.

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Speaker 4: It, Faz says, one of our producers said, Blake hit

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Speaker 4: a home run on the israel first question.

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Speaker 5: Ah, it was, it was all right, It was all right.

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Speaker 4: So these are gonna be clipped up and put on

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Speaker 4: social just like we.

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Speaker 6: We got a question about global warming that felt like

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Speaker 6: a blast from the past. Like you don't have a

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Speaker 6: lot of people asking about global warming anymore. It's very

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Speaker 6: twenty fourteen eraliberalism back.

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Speaker 3: When it's funny.

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Speaker 4: You still you still can't get those clips on Facebook.

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Speaker 4: I think they'll still get you if you don't.

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Speaker 6: Toe the Oh, there's still it's like it's gonna be

630
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Speaker 6: like asgal It's gonna be a vestigial thing, like they,

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Speaker 6: you know, AI will have cooked everyone's brains.

632
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Speaker 5: They won't know how to change the code to make

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Speaker 5: it so you can't.

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Speaker 3: Say it because it doesn't exist on some of the

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Speaker 3: social media plays.

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Speaker 5: No, but it actually is very funny.

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Speaker 6: Just you don't run into it that much because they

638
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Speaker 6: moved on to you know, systemic racism or whatever, but

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Speaker 6: we we still have the remnants of it, Like, you know,

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Speaker 6: you still can't get a plastic straw in Tempe, I think.

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Speaker 3: But seriously, well I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I got a paper straw the other day when I

643
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Speaker 5: was at a restaurant. I found it really annoying.

644
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Speaker 4: So this was interesting the before. So we wrapped the

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Speaker 4: show yesterday and then like almost immediately after we're done

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Speaker 4: with it, we get told that there are protesters out front,

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Speaker 4: and I think we have some pictures here if the

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Speaker 4: team can show them. So it's this other group. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: so they're outside and they've got film crew. And then

650
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Speaker 4: so Blake. I didn't even see Blake after the show,

651
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Speaker 4: like you were just gone. And then I was like,

652
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Speaker 4: where did Blake go? And they're like, oh, protesters out front.

653
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Speaker 4: You got to go confront them, and I was like,

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Speaker 4: I do you know? That doesn't seem like security protocol.

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Speaker 4: So I was like all right. So but it turns

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Speaker 4: out it's this this progressive group that we mentioned were

657
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Speaker 4: flipping off Charlie's memorial and doing all sorts of deranged

658
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Speaker 4: things outside of the HQ before that. The day before

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Speaker 4: that or over the weekend. So I joined Blake out

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Speaker 4: there and then next thing I know, Jack is out there.

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Speaker 6: It was such a funny conversation because they were mad.

662
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 6: I mean they were posting images of them flipping off.

663
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 5: A memorial and all of that, and they were.

664
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Speaker 6: Mad because they blamed us for getting an event of

665
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 6: theirs at ASU canceled and we go out and they

666
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 6: ask us about this, and we just go speaking truthfully,

667
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 6: that wasn't us. We don't have that kind of pull

668
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 6: with ASU. They in fact quite dislike us. And then

669
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Speaker 6: it was almost like they hadn't considered that possibility and

670
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Speaker 6: they instantly got were for the like oh oh yeah,

671
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Speaker 6: that makes sense.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because our day event also got U disallowed. Yeah.

673
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Speaker 5: I actually was confused.

674
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Speaker 6: I thought until I hadn't like really been paying pulse,

675
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Speaker 6: so I thought the event was actually going to be

676
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Speaker 6: around news.

677
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Speaker 3: So this is true.

678
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Speaker 4: I caved, I go, what times your your pick up

679
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:46,320
Speaker 4: the mic? And he's like he's like, ah, this afternoon

680
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 4: was like I thought it was a night event, and

681
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:48,839
Speaker 4: nobody had told Blake.

682
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Speaker 5: Well they told me, and I hadn't looked close. I'm

683
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Speaker 5: self conscious.

684
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Speaker 6: So when they sent me the announcement, I didn't want

685
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Speaker 6: to look at it because it had my dorky mugshot photo.

686
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Speaker 5: And so I love that you.

687
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Speaker 4: Were I actually loved that you were nervous because it

688
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Speaker 4: shows the reverence that you have for c K and

689
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 4: just how many reps he put in in that format.

690
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 4: And it is a powerful format because it really is

691
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 4: the collision of ideas and there is nothing off limits,

692
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 4: and it's it's mental sparring, and you got to make

693
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Speaker 4: your point.

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Speaker 3: As a matter of fact.

695
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 4: When we went out to confront these this left wing

696
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 4: group that was taking all these terrible pictures, that was

697
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 4: my first thing. They were like, they started with, look,

698
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Speaker 4: do you condemn President Trump for what he said.

699
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 3: About Bob Mueller?

700
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Speaker 4: And I was like, I was like, do you do

701
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Speaker 4: you condemn your friend over here for flipping off Charlie's

702
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 4: memorial and doing all this other gross crap. And her

703
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:40,280
Speaker 4: response was, well, I thought that you guys canceled our event.

704
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,240
Speaker 4: So I take it back and I'm sorry, I'll delete

705
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 4: that post. It's like, even if we did cancel your event,

706
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 4: which we didn't, you should not be doing that. You're

707
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Speaker 4: a grown woman that is giving into this like online

708
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Speaker 4: culture of just being you know, really gross. And by

709
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Speaker 4: the way, like when you've done the reps that turning

710
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Speaker 4: point's done with all these campuses across country, maybe maybe

711
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Speaker 4: then we'll take you more seriously. Up until now, you

712
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 4: guys are just a bunch of trolls, and I don't

713
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 4: take you seriously. I don't because all you're trying to

714
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,840
Speaker 4: do is leech off what we're doing. You're trying to

715
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 4: draft off what we've done and what we've built, what

716
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 4: Charlie built, and so you know, good luck, I guess,

717
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Speaker 4: and welcome to university bureaucracy. This is how it works.

718
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 4: You know, you win some, you lose some. Is by

719
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 4: the way, this is all Initially I.

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Speaker 6: Get a kick out of the them thinking like we

721
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 6: would want to shut down a left wing group that

722
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,839
Speaker 6: you know, would ask questions at our events because very

723
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 6: obviously there's a symbiotic relationship there, like we want liberals

724
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 6: to show up at our events, because that's how you

725
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 6: get the debate, that's how that's how you get viral clips,

726
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 6: that's how Charlie. Charlie would never want to go to

727
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 6: a campus and only get people who agree with him.

728
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Speaker 6: That would be incredibly lame.

729
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Speaker 4: Yeah, no exactly, and by the way, it's like, we don't.

730
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Speaker 4: First of all, we're not threatened by it. Second of all,

731
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Speaker 4: I didn't even know who these people were. I mean

732
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Speaker 4: I knew kind of a little bit from what we

733
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Speaker 4: know the group at Texas A and M. They they

734
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,959
Speaker 4: tried to count or our event or something that event

735
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 4: and that that My favorite part about that event was

736
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Speaker 4: when they tried to counter program us.

737
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Speaker 3: The sprinklers turned on.

738
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Speaker 5: That was probably are doing too. We probably have more pull.

739
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Speaker 8: Up a M.

740
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Speaker 4: We probably had the keys to the to the sprinkler system,

741
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 4: and we probably know that didn't happen.

742
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Speaker 3: This is what's halling in.

743
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Speaker 4: No, it was like, no, pull it's the time, go

744
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,839
Speaker 4: now and anyway, So it was kind of a fun

745
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 4: little moment, but it kind of and there was all

746
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 4: this press energy, like everybody wanted to see what we

747
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 4: were doing at uh at A s U versus the

748
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 4: that got these inquiries like did you block their event?

749
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Speaker 3: I'm like no, but they would love for you to

750
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 3: think that we did. Okay, Like so it was.

751
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Speaker 4: It was kind of a nothing burger in the end,

752
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 4: but nevertheless, fun to get back on campus, fun to

753
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 4: see you guys doing it. And honor Charlie that way.

754
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Speaker 4: So I was proud of you guys, and more to come.

755
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Speaker 4: I think I'm gonna do GCU soon, which will be

756
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 4: fun here in the valley. So uh, we'll keep you

757
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 4: posting on that, and as the clips come up, we'll

758
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,280
Speaker 4: maybe we'll show some of them on the show.

759
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 3: You know, we spend a lot.

760
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Speaker 4: Of time on this show talking about culture, about why

761
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Speaker 4: strong families matter, why values matter, why faith matters. But

762
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Speaker 4: here's something practical. If you actually want to build a

763
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Speaker 4: strong family someday, you have to start by meeting someone

764
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Speaker 4: who shares those same values and convictions. And in today's culture,

765
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Speaker 4: that's not always easy. A lot of apps are built

766
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 4: around casual connections, instant gratification, no long term vision, and

767
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Speaker 4: that's just not what many of you are looking for.

768
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Speaker 3: You want something better. That's why I like Upward.

769
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Speaker 4: Upward is a dating app designed around faith and shared

770
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Speaker 4: values people who care about commitment, integrity, marriage, and family.

771
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Speaker 4: You're starting from common ground instead of trying to negotiate

772
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Speaker 4: your core beliefs three months later into the relationship. That

773
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Speaker 4: kind of clarity really matters if faith is central to

774
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Speaker 4: your life, or even if it's something that shaped how

775
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Speaker 4: you were raised and how you see the world. Upward

776
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777
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778
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779
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782
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Speaker 3: When you see ice agents, you know, being deployed.

783
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Speaker 9: I like it.

784
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Speaker 8: I mean, I think trumpstone, I hold off.

785
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Speaker 6: I like it.

786
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Speaker 1: Most of the travelers we spoke with say, well, it's disappointing.

787
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Speaker 1: The current shutdown is having a negative impact on TSA staff.

788
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 5: They're pleased to see ice agents stepping it.

789
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Speaker 8: They're protecting us well.

790
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,839
Speaker 3: People love their ice agents at the airports lines wait

791
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:44,760
Speaker 3: times are dropping like crazy.

792
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Speaker 5: And you know we have like the thin blue line,

793
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Speaker 5: the thin red line.

794
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Speaker 6: Is this like the thin security line, then cold line?

795
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Speaker 4: The ice light here to help us break this down

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Speaker 4: is none other than borders are Tom Homan National Treasure

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Speaker 4: Thank you sir for joining us and making the time.

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Speaker 4: What can you tell us about what we're seeing ice

799
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Speaker 4: agents at our airports?

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Speaker 10: I think President Trump made a brilliant move He called

801
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Speaker 10: me late Saturday night and with this idea, and I

802
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Speaker 10: liked it. I mean, ICE agents are being paid TSA

803
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Speaker 10: art agents aren't lines drew back and up, and this

804
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Speaker 10: heightened security posture we're in right now because it's going

805
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Speaker 10: on in the world. We need to secure the airports,

806
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Speaker 10: we need to secure the airways, and we need to

807
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Speaker 10: get American people to those lines. I mean especially now

808
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Speaker 10: during spring break and Eastern and so forth. So I

809
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Speaker 10: thought it was a great idea, and so I've worked

810
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Speaker 10: very close with the ICE director and the acting Administrator TSA.

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Speaker 10: We put that plan together in less than twenty four hours,

812
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Speaker 10: and now we were sitting at about sixteen airports. Now they'll

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Speaker 10: be a few more added. It's be it's just it's

814
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Speaker 10: going to constantly be changing. But we're there filling jobs.

815
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Speaker 10: That's going to release more TSA agents to work right

816
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Speaker 10: in those security lines and especially the X ray machines

817
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 10: and you know, the initial and secondary security where they're

818
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Speaker 10: very well trained to do. We're going to take people

819
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Speaker 10: that are doing other security jobs and we're going to

820
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Speaker 10: fill those gaps so they can release those highly trained

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Speaker 10: TSA officials to help with the lines, maybe open up

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Speaker 10: more lines because we have more people looking at the

823
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Speaker 10: X ray monitors. So it's a great idea and and

824
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Speaker 10: I think the lines are going down quickly. And I

825
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 10: think President Trump not only made airports more secure, more safe,

826
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Speaker 10: he's moving the traveling public through quicker.

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Speaker 3: I love it well.

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Speaker 4: I mean I put up a few posts on x

829
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Speaker 4: yesterday and they went viral because everybody loves this idea.

830
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Speaker 4: Mister borders are But it does raise this other thing

831
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Speaker 4: that's getting the Democrats all freaked out. And we'll just

832
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Speaker 4: have President Trump, in his own words, describe it to three.

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Speaker 3: Will we see arrest.

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Speaker 10: People marketing, arrest of airports, arrest the ICE, arresting illegal migrants,

835
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Speaker 10: and airports talking. That's why the Democrats are got creation,

836
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Speaker 10: because they've.

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Speaker 11: Allowed, by what they did and to hold up we

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Speaker 11: put ice tore a very high.

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Speaker 12: Level I mean, they really are a high level group

840
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Speaker 12: of people, and they love it because they're able to

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Speaker 12: now arrest.

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Speaker 13: Illegals as they come into the country. That's that's very

843
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Speaker 13: fertile turntor.

844
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Speaker 3: But that's not why they're there.

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Speaker 13: They're they're really there to.

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Speaker 4: Help, all right, So it's very fertile teary. I've thought

847
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Speaker 4: about this a lot, Uh, mister, borders are that the

848
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Speaker 4: airports are where so much of this is happening, So

849
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Speaker 4: it makes sense to have ICE agents there.

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Speaker 3: Explain how that will work.

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Speaker 4: Will will they be processing somebody through the security line

852
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Speaker 4: and then they'll be like, oh, you're actually an a

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Speaker 4: llegal immigrant and.

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Speaker 3: You're you're now going to be removed from the country.

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Speaker 10: Well, look, you know CBP and ICE have always said

856
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Speaker 10: of presidence at the airports, not a big presence, because

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Speaker 10: we do a lot of human trafficking investigations, smuggling investigations,

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Speaker 10: bolt cash smuggling, so we we we have a presence there.

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Speaker 10: CBP also has a presence there because they're the ones

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Speaker 10: that screen everybody coming into the country from mother from

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Speaker 10: other nations.

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Speaker 8: So uh, but we're look, our number.

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Speaker 10: One mission, as a president said, is support TSA and

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Speaker 10: move those lines quicker and enhance security. However, the instructions

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Speaker 10: I gave uh to ICE was they're going to force

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Speaker 10: immigration law. Also if they see a criminal activity, they're

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Speaker 10: going to take action.

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Speaker 8: There's a lot of.

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Speaker 10: People say, well you should just help TSA with a

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Speaker 10: security posture and non enforce them er grace law. I'm

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Speaker 10: not gonna do that. We're going to force themmre grace law.

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Speaker 10: I'm not going to ask any ICE officer to ignore

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Speaker 10: the opes. They took an unforced immigration law, so you

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Speaker 10: will see immigration rest. So they they they got two missions,

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Speaker 10: one support TSA, two enforced law.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I think that makes all the sense in

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Speaker 4: the world.

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Speaker 3: Said, yeah, go ahead.

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Speaker 6: But first of all, I want to tout I was reading,

880
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Speaker 6: actually we were doing an a SU event yesterday and

881
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Speaker 6: I was studying up for it, and I saw that

882
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Speaker 6: the overall pace of ICE arrests per day has doubled

883
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Speaker 6: since last spring. So congratulations for that. But the rational

884
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Speaker 6: follow up, of course, is how much will let's say

885
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Speaker 6: this airport strategy of the Democrats keeps going. Is there

886
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Speaker 6: a risk that this will significantly slow down those arrests?

887
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,760
Speaker 6: Like could Democrats embrace this as a way to hamper

888
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 6: immigration enforcement by diverting so many agents.

889
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 8: Look, well, I have an effect on arrested.

890
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Speaker 10: I have a small effect on a rest, of course,

891
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 10: because more people call the fields to the airport. But look,

892
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,320
Speaker 10: the men and women with TSA, they're not being paid.

893
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:42,800
Speaker 10: This is a third time in the past year they've suffered,

894
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 10: So you know, bottom line is the Democrats up on

895
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Speaker 10: the Hill are punishing TSA, Coast Guard, SISA, Cybersecurity, FEMA.

896
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 10: They're punishing these employees by not paying them because they're

897
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Speaker 10: mad about immigration enforcement. And you know, bottom line is

898
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Speaker 10: I've been meeting on the Hill, you know, having discussions,

899
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 10: but bottom line, but we're not going to give up

900
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Speaker 10: ice authorities. We're not going to legislat or podify changes

901
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Speaker 10: in policy because what I've explaining from day one to

902
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Speaker 10: people there are the negotiating table.

903
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Speaker 8: Policy has not changed. The same policy.

904
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Speaker 10: We're using now was there with Clinton, Obama and Bush

905
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Speaker 10: one and Bush two. I've been doing this a long time.

906
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Speaker 10: It's not about policies, it's about execution. And you know,

907
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 10: as I said, this all startup Minnesota, and I said,

908
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 10: look Minnesota and one other it wasn't perfect. There are

909
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,240
Speaker 10: changes need to be made, and we made those changes.

910
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 10: Those changes are in place now. So I find it

911
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 10: shocking to any member of Congress, I don't care what

912
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 10: party you're in, does not want to open up the government,

913
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 10: does not want to fund the Department of Homeland Security

914
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Speaker 10: that keeps this nation safe, especially again that's elevated threat posture.

915
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 10: Everybody in DHS should be working, working hard. So we

916
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Speaker 10: need to get the government back open. President wants the

917
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Speaker 10: government back open, and we'll get it back hoping. But

918
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Speaker 10: we're not going to surrender immigration authority happen and we're

919
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 10: not going to do that. That's not that's off the table,

920
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 10: mask off the table. I mean, we're going to do

921
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Speaker 10: our jobs and we won't keep our officers safe.

922
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Speaker 4: Okay, well, that's that's good to hear the mass off

923
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Speaker 4: the table. We've got a clip here, it's too long.

924
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Speaker 4: Just Hakeem Jeffries, though, says that we're not going to

925
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Speaker 4: fund DHS. Democrats are not going to fund DHS unless

926
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Speaker 4: Democrats are assured that ICE will not monitor polling places.

927
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Speaker 4: What's your reaction to.

928
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Speaker 3: That, sir?

929
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 10: Are illegal aliens voting? I mean, bottom line is what

930
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Speaker 10: are they afraid of? And they say illegal aliens don't vote?

931
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Speaker 10: But look, you know part of you is his job

932
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Speaker 10: is secure elections and I'm.

933
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Speaker 8: Not going to save you know, you know what our

934
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Speaker 8: plan is going forward, But.

935
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Speaker 10: If only you as citizens can vote, I don't see

936
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Speaker 10: the issue what they're concerned about. They ought to be

937
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Speaker 10: concerned about the safety and security of this nation and

938
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Speaker 10: why is the Department Homeland Security not funded. That's why

939
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 10: they need to explain. And look, they can get angry

940
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Speaker 10: at ICE all they want. We've got to remember they

941
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 10: set the stage, right, they baked this pie.

942
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Speaker 8: Right.

943
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 10: They four years of open borders, four years of no

944
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Speaker 10: immigration enforcement. We had historic illegal migration on the southern border.

945
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Speaker 10: They knew it, and the members of Congress stood silent.

946
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 10: They're complicit. They didn't do anything to Secretary of Mariorcus.

947
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:37,840
Speaker 8: When he sat under OULTI Border secure. So they're to

948
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Speaker 8: blame for this.

949
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Speaker 10: And what ICE is simply doing is responding to four

950
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Speaker 10: years of open borders and historic illegal migration on border

951
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Speaker 10: that brought mens upon minions of people to the border

952
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Speaker 10: and release the United States. That requires a historic deportation operation.

953
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,479
Speaker 10: It's just simple maths. So they got to remember, why

954
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 10: are we in this position? Why is ICE hiring more people?

955
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 10: Why was President Trump elected to be the President of

956
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 10: the United States and put in the Oval Office to

957
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 10: secure the border and enforced immigration law.

958
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Speaker 8: That's what we're doing.

959
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Speaker 10: And they set the stage for the open border for

960
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Speaker 10: four years.

961
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Speaker 8: They can't they can't forget that.

962
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, amen to that.

963
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 4: So you have a new as of yesterday, Senator Mark

964
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Speaker 4: Wayne Mullen is now Secretary. Mark Wayne Mullen, DHS Secretary.

965
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 4: What do you expect any changes during his tenure? Have

966
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 4: you spoken directly with him?

967
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 8: What?

968
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:32,720
Speaker 3: What? What can we expect as the American people.

969
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 10: I speak to Mark Wayne Mullen every day, sometimes several

970
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 10: times a day ever since President Trump announce him as

971
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 10: a nominee. I'll be with him today when he gets

972
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 10: sworn in. I mean I said, I've said one hundred

973
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:50,919
Speaker 10: times since he's been nominated. I think he's the right

974
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 10: guy at the right time and the right job. He

975
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 10: understands our challenges. He understands you know, as a member

976
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Speaker 10: of Congress, he stands what upset, what's up, what Congress

977
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 10: is upset about, and what false errative they're pushing and

978
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Speaker 10: and how we can you know, work across the aisle

979
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Speaker 10: and uh, I think I think it's a game changer,

980
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 10: and I'm looking forward to working with him. And again

981
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 10: we have a close relationship. And uh, even though he

982
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 10: wasn't a secretary yet, I read him in on the

983
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:24,360
Speaker 10: operation and what we're doing at the airport speak because

984
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:27,479
Speaker 10: I want him to hit the ground running. And we uh,

985
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 10: my office and and many others has offered him any

986
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 10: resources he needs to hit the ground running on day one.

987
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:37,319
Speaker 10: He's already started. I mean he's already engaged. He may

988
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Speaker 10: not be the second, he might not be sworn in,

989
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 10: yet he's already being read in on things he needs

990
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 10: to be read in on.

991
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 8: So he hit the ground running the minute he's sworn in.

992
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's for people who are curious. There was only

993
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 4: one Republican that voted against That was rand Paul wasn't

994
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:56,760
Speaker 4: necessarily surprise after it seems pretty personal, seems like there's

995
00:49:56,560 --> 00:50:00,120
Speaker 4: some beef there. But then two Democrats Fetterman and and

996
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 4: then a senator from New Mexico I forget his name,

997
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 4: but you.

998
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 10: Know, not only that, but you know a lot of

999
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 10: Democrats I've talked to. I'm you know a handful. I

1000
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:15,280
Speaker 10: know he's talked to many more. They want to vote

1001
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 10: for him, but his election yere but I think there's

1002
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:21,439
Speaker 10: a lot more Democrats to support him that's known. And look,

1003
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:23,359
Speaker 10: he's going to prove to him. He's going to prove

1004
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 10: to them he's the right guy. And I think give

1005
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 10: him a few months, I think he's going to press

1006
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 10: this country with his drive to maintain the more secure

1007
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 10: board in the nation at the same time and forced

1008
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 10: himmigration long in a smart, effective way. And look, FEMA

1009
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:45,360
Speaker 10: needs some attention. You TSA needs attention, Secret Service needs attention.

1010
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 10: All these things that he can to wrap his arms around.

1011
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 10: And he's got a talented staff. Look what Mark Wayne

1012
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 10: mull has told me you got. You got career officials

1013
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 10: at ICE, been there for decades. You've got career officials

1014
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:00,399
Speaker 10: at CBP, board patrol, the ben there for day case.

1015
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 10: He's you going to count on these careers, career officials

1016
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,919
Speaker 10: who've done this for decades to do their job.

1017
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:08,359
Speaker 8: And I think that's the smart way to go about it.

1018
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 10: Let the people who've done this for decades, who know Look,

1019
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 10: for instance, I have a close relationship with him. I've

1020
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:17,799
Speaker 10: worked for six presidents on immigration. I've seen hundreds of

1021
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 10: policies come and go. I know what worked, I know

1022
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 10: it didn't. And the same thing with CBP and ICE

1023
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:26,360
Speaker 10: in these other age sees. Count on these career officials

1024
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 10: who've been on both sides, who've seen you know, successes

1025
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 10: versus failures. Count on them and their knowledge And as

1026
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 10: a winning game, winning formula.

1027
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 4: I wanted to you were talking about how Mark Wayne Mullin,

1028
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 4: Secretary of Mark Wayne Ullen can be effective in this role.

1029
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 4: I said, and I defended you publicly on this. What

1030
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 4: you did in Minneapolis was an absolute masterstroke. You got

1031
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 4: cooperation at the local prisons and the county jails. Explain

1032
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 4: what you did there and how that can be a

1033
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 4: model of working with blue these blue jurisdictions, these sanctuary

1034
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:03,280
Speaker 4: cities across the country.

1035
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 10: Well, look, we know that we have a problem sanctuary

1036
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:09,320
Speaker 10: cities because we know they're released in public safety threats

1037
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 10: back into the community.

1038
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 8: They're released some.

1039
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 10: Public safety threats back into the public, which I think

1040
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:17,720
Speaker 10: is just plain stupid. So when we got to Minnesota,

1041
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 10: I met with the governor and the attorney general and

1042
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 10: the mayors about cooperation. I explained, some more agents in

1043
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 10: the jail means less agents in the street, because you know,

1044
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 10: we can arrest a criminal, illegal alien. The safety and

1045
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 10: security of a jail, we're safer for the alien, safer

1046
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 10: for the officer, certainly safer for the community. But when

1047
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 10: they release them into the street, we got to send

1048
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 10: a whole team to go look for them because officers

1049
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 10: safety concerns, and in Minneapolis, things are out of control.

1050
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 10: So not only do we send a team to go

1051
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 10: look to rest the bad guy, then we had to

1052
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 10: send an additional team as backup because of the chaos

1053
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 10: that was going on the threats CONCIS officers. So what

1054
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:58,359
Speaker 10: one officer could have done in the jail or two,

1055
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 10: now team fifteen guys out there in the street for

1056
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 10: that one guy. And when you got you know, twenty

1057
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:07,719
Speaker 10: different teams out, you're talking about hundreds of people out

1058
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 10: the rest a few people. So I explained, and I

1059
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 10: understand that that raises fear in the community that you

1060
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:17,760
Speaker 10: have a bunch of ice officers out there and tactical

1061
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:19,399
Speaker 10: gear the rest a bad guy. I said, you want

1062
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 10: to want that that vision to go away, then it's

1063
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 10: in a damn jail. And you know we got we

1064
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 10: got unprecedented cooperation.

1065
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 8: So it was a win.

1066
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 10: But we also got to remember that we're out there

1067
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:35,360
Speaker 10: enforcing immigration law. We got, as President Trump said, we

1068
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:38,800
Speaker 10: got to prioritize public safety threats and national security threats.

1069
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 10: We got almost seven hundred thousand illegal aliens and criminals

1070
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 10: that are walking the streets of this country. We got

1071
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:46,760
Speaker 10: to get the words first. And I think that smart

1072
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:50,760
Speaker 10: way of doing business. It's not less enforcement, it's smarter enforcement.

1073
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 10: You got a criminal here, non criminal here, who are

1074
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 10: going to rest first? Who is the biggest threat to

1075
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 10: our community? Of course, not the criminal is. But as

1076
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 10: I said in day one, if you're in the country legally,

1077
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 10: you're not off the table. We're going to find you,

1078
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 10: We're going to deport you. It's just a matter of

1079
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 10: smart enforcement, targeted enforcement. When we leave the building every morning,

1080
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 10: we know who we're going to look for. We know

1081
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:14,239
Speaker 10: a lot about his criminal history and his immigration history.

1082
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:16,919
Speaker 10: Pretty much got a pretty idea where he lives, where

1083
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 10: he works, and that's the way.

1084
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:19,319
Speaker 8: They do operations.

1085
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 10: Is safer for the agents, safer the communities, and that's

1086
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 10: where we're don't go move forward as President Trump coming

1087
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 10: into in day one, prioritizing the worst first again doesn't

1088
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 10: mean amnesty. Doesn't mean if you're in the country or

1089
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 10: legally you didn't commit another crime, you're off the table.

1090
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:36,240
Speaker 8: That's not what it means. It's about smarter enforcement.

1091
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 3: Blake, I know we have an audience question, Yes we have.

1092
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 6: I think I've told you about this in private, Tom,

1093
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Speaker 6: but I wanted to get it on the air. We

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Speaker 6: have a viewer who emails us very often, and he

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Speaker 6: asks if you can say publicly to announce to all

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Speaker 6: of America confidently that any illegal aliens who try to

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Speaker 6: vote in the coming elections will be caught and will

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Speaker 6: be deported.

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Speaker 8: Do you after we prosecute them?

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Speaker 10: I mean, it's a crime to vote illegally United States,

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Speaker 10: So we're going to take us seriously. You want to

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Speaker 10: go to prison, try it, but after we prosecute you

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Speaker 10: will be deported.

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Speaker 8: Absolutely.

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Speaker 10: Now.

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Speaker 8: The President has made that clear.

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Speaker 10: And that's why. Look, that's why Congress needs a pass

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Speaker 10: save America. I don't know why anybody wouldn't require identification

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Speaker 10: to vote. I pick up tickets that will call it,

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Speaker 10: to go to sportsman, I got to show ID. I

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Speaker 10: go pick up my dry cleaning, I show ID. So

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Speaker 10: why wouldn't you want to show ID to to take

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Speaker 10: advantage of the most significant thing this country has, your

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Speaker 10: ability to vote for your next leader. I mean it's

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Speaker 10: a sacred it's a sacred ability, and we ought to

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Speaker 10: keep rules wrapped around it. If you're not a citizen,

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Speaker 10: don't vote. If you do vote, we're coming for you.

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Speaker 4: How does that work when you prosecute an illegal alien

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Speaker 4: that has attempted to vote. Do we throw them in

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Speaker 4: prison or do we deport them once they're convicted?

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Speaker 10: Now they're going to do is in time first. Then

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Speaker 10: we've been waiting out the door, and he gets released

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Speaker 10: and we'll send him home.

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Speaker 3: Got it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna play a clip here from Gavin Newsom

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Speaker 4: and I'll have you respond quickly.

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Speaker 3: Here at SOT six.

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Speaker 2: It's self evident. It's a self optimist advice. Do the

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Speaker 2: work to you to say, when in fact it's Ice

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Speaker 2: in the.

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Speaker 12: Conditions that have been perpetuating on the streets of America

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Speaker 12: of what often is described as a secret police that

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Speaker 12: took an over office, not to the Constitution but to

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Speaker 12: Gonald Trump.

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Speaker 2: The whole thing is rather worse. And I don't know

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Speaker 2: how it ends well. I'm not suggesting it's going badly.

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00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:43,839
Speaker 2: I just I don't know the behavior of this administration

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Speaker 2: to negotiate an agreement.

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Speaker 12: With Democrats to address the device and the other Americans

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Speaker 12: concerned about how ICE is currently being deployed and utilized.

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Speaker 2: I just wish the president would take responsibility.

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Speaker 4: So this is him playing off a narrative from the

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Speaker 4: left where somehow Ice agents at airports or whatever. This

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00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 4: is the secret police. They're gonna There were some senators

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Speaker 4: that were saying they were going to shoot people in

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Speaker 4: the in the airports. So we end where we begin.

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Speaker 4: Tom Your reaction to this narrative that they're trying.

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Speaker 10: To build the same people who push this negative, you know,

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00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 10: narrative against ice agents are the same ones that want

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Speaker 10: to take the masks off.

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00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 8: There are reason we're wearing the masks.

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Speaker 10: Their haypo Rietic is convinced that small percentage of people

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Speaker 10: who are already nuts to take you know, by axe

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Speaker 10: against ice officers. So you know, they if their hyperritic

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00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:40,320
Speaker 10: doesn't decrease, directs will continue to rise, assaults will continued

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00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 10: to rise. But they're obviously the great danger and it

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00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:45,960
Speaker 10: gives us more reason to try to protect themselves in

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Speaker 10: their families. So you know, and I'll say this, Democrats,

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Speaker 10: members of char can argue and complain. All they want

1160
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 10: were enforce the laws they enacted. If they don't like it,

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Speaker 10: change the law, if they want to cross Nazis for

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Speaker 10: and four wishing the law that they wrote, what's that

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00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 10: make them? They created the law. So we're going to

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Speaker 10: keep enforcing laws as as mandated by Congress. That's appropriated

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Speaker 10: funding to do this. That's exactly what we're going to do.

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Speaker 10: The American people have spoken. They put Donald Trump in

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Speaker 10: the old office to enforce him regraced law and security border.

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Speaker 10: We've got the most secure border in the history of

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Speaker 10: this nation, and we're doing record number of rest deportations.

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Speaker 10: It's knock on the stop.

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Speaker 4: And mark Waynemullen is the new Secretary of DHS. Commas

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Speaker 4: not dramas. I believe that that is our future. Let's

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Speaker 4: wrap this man in bubble wrap. National hero and Treasure.

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Speaker 4: Borders are tom home and thank.

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Speaker 3: You, sir. We'll see you soon.

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Speaker 8: Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 4: Andrews sent you. All right, here we go without further ado.

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Speaker 4: We have Addison, Mark Kurt, and Danielle Cosetto. Danielle is

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Speaker 4: the SU chapter chair, She runs their social right, their

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Speaker 4: social account, the X account, all this stuff. And Addison

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Speaker 4: is the SU chapter vice president. So welcome, Welcome to the.

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Speaker 13: Charlie Kirkshow thank you for robbing us?

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Speaker 4: All right, So the real most important question is who

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Speaker 4: did better yesterday?

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Speaker 3: Jack Posoviac or Blake Neff? Jack?

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Speaker 6: Oh, can I just turn around so that you can

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Speaker 6: stab me in the past?

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Speaker 3: I mean, Jack is not here. You had an easy layup,

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Speaker 3: But that's fine. I appreciate the candor, all right.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, So Uh, tell us, what was it like

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Speaker 4: kind of getting back into the event world, pick up

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Speaker 4: the mic having it on your chapter yesterday.

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Speaker 11: Oh, it was awesome.

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Speaker 9: We it was very expedited, so it was fun to

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Speaker 9: see all of the hard work put into it, and

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Speaker 9: it was definitely hard to fly her and get an

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Speaker 9: advertised But I think we had a good turnout and

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Speaker 9: it was really great having Blake and Jack, So it

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Speaker 9: was awesome.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: It's an important like muscle memory for chapters to have,

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Speaker 4: is like get out and fly or get out and

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Speaker 4: do the thing table announce the event. What was What

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Speaker 4: was the reaction from students?

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Speaker 13: I think it was well received and I think students

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Speaker 13: are pre shaded the fact that they could go up

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Speaker 13: to the mic and you know, if they disagreed, that's okay.

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Speaker 13: And being able to hear both sides of the conversation,

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Speaker 13: which is I think the number one thing that Charlie prioritized.

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Speaker 3: M hmm. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So what has it been like in the aftermath of

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Speaker 4: when we lost Charlie.

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Speaker 3: What's it been like for your chapter?

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Speaker 9: The chapter has grown exponentially, it's been so there's light

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Speaker 9: at the.

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Speaker 11: End of the tunnel of silver lining. Yeah, silver lining

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Speaker 11: that everything.

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Speaker 9: It's been awesome seeing everyone who didn't necessarily think that

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Speaker 9: they wanted to get involved in politics until obviously seeing

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Speaker 9: how important it is to be involved politically and talking

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Speaker 9: to your peers getting involved on campus because they didn't

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Speaker 9: see that before. They didn't think they needed the part

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Speaker 9: to be a part of turning point because they were

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Speaker 9: just like, oh, like, it'll go how it goes. But

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Speaker 9: now they actually see a reason to, you know, step

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Speaker 9: up and make their opinions.

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Speaker 3: Heard same question to you, Charlie died.

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Speaker 13: I think it really just put a spark under our butts.

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Speaker 13: I know I got involved a turning point after Charlie

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Speaker 13: was assassinated. Yeah, and just seeing how people have come

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Speaker 13: together after that, it just makes our voices stronger.

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Speaker 4: Blake, I have lots of questions, but you know you're

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Speaker 4: the one who went and spent time with them.

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Speaker 6: Yes, yes, I suppose. I suppose. It's do you see

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Speaker 6: any what do they in the wake of Charlie's loss.

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Speaker 6: Is there something that particularly appeals to him about his legacy?

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Speaker 6: Do you see them leaning more towards the faith side

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Speaker 6: of things maybe than the past, or do they see

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Speaker 6: him as a guy to look towards in terms of debate,

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Speaker 6: argument politics.

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Speaker 5: Just I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I'm trying to think of how young people look to

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Speaker 6: Charlie now that he's no longer with us.

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Speaker 13: I can speak for myself, and I think that my

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Speaker 13: thoughts on activism have certainly come up. It makes me

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Speaker 13: just want to get more involved with knocking on doors,

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Speaker 13: getting people to sign up for being a PC, et cetera,

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Speaker 13: et cetera. And I think maybe for more people on

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Speaker 13: ASU just it sparks us to have even more open

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Speaker 13: debates hearing clearly what the other side has to say.

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Speaker 9: I think he remains controversial definitely. People who are part

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Speaker 9: of the Trapter obviously see him as a great debater,

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Speaker 9: and it doesn't matter what they thought of him before.

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Speaker 9: They still appreciate what he's done for the youth and

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Speaker 9: making our voices heard onlike the liberal side of things.

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Speaker 9: They they don't like him still, I don't think they

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Speaker 9: hate him as much to the extent that maybe they

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Speaker 9: did before, because.

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Speaker 5: They see that you do you run?

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01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:41,120
Speaker 6: It has to be asked, do you run into people?

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Speaker 6: Will let people ever ridicule you about Charlie being dead?

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Speaker 5: What will they do?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, they don't stop yeah, they say like crazy things

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Speaker 9: and they.

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Speaker 11: Don't have a conversation with us. Yes, we're tabling.

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Speaker 9: They'll walk past us and say something diabolical and it's

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Speaker 9: very rude.

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Speaker 6: I actually I heard last night that apparently someone showed

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Speaker 6: up at a meeting at I think when Erica showed

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Speaker 6: up at the chapter and they made some sort of

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Speaker 6: joke about Charlie being dead or something, and oh, oh well, he.

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Speaker 11: Got put in his place. For sure.

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Speaker 9: I don't think he met any mal intent with that comment.

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Speaker 9: He didn't know Erica was there. I'm sure he would

1293
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Speaker 9: have held his tongue a little bit more. I hope

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Speaker 9: he knew, because he's a great guy.

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Speaker 11: He was just trying to be funny.

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Speaker 3: Oh dear, Oh well, that's not a funny thing, the joke.

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Speaker 4: And that's, by the way, that's what I told the

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Speaker 4: the whatever, the progressive group that's trying to troll and

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Speaker 4: draft off turning point. I just said, don't don't disrespect

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Speaker 4: my dead friend, and don't don't post pictures on social media.

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Speaker 3: It's not cool. It's not funny.

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Speaker 4: You know, I don't care what Trump says, like, yeah, okay,

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Speaker 4: he didn't he They made this whole point about Bob

1304
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Speaker 4: Mueller and who was the other guy, the the actor

1305
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Speaker 4: Rob b Reiner, And I was just like, so, what

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01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:02,480
Speaker 4: if you don't like it when he does it, why

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Speaker 4: are you doing it to us? Why are you doing

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Speaker 4: that to Charlie? Anyways, So I want to talk about

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Speaker 4: some of the issues. We've only got two and a

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Speaker 4: half minutes in this segment. We have a whole nother

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Speaker 4: segment Iran. What are even Trump supporting students? Students, you know,

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Speaker 4: voted for Trump. What are they feeling about the Iran war?

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Speaker 13: I think that mostly they're saying, you know, Trump said

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Speaker 13: no new wars. Now we're in a war, talking about

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Speaker 13: prices going up, especially gas. I don't know if you

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Speaker 13: want to add on that, Addie.

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Speaker 5: Wait a minute, student, is he still driver?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Okay, you guys are living large. I didn't have a

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Speaker 5: car in college.

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Speaker 13: I don't either.

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Speaker 11: They're mixed.

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Speaker 9: People who voted for Trump are either in support of

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Speaker 9: him or they're totally against it, because, like Danny said,

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Speaker 9: no new wars, that's one of the primary reasons. At

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Speaker 9: least I voted for him, and a lot of the

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Speaker 9: people and the chapter voted for him. And we don't

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Speaker 9: want to lose American lives.

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Speaker 3: Does this change your opinion of the president?

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Speaker 9: Uh, My opinion of the president hasn't really changed all

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Speaker 9: that much. I obviously am not in full support for

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Speaker 9: everything that he does, and I didn't want any new wars.

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Speaker 9: I don't think interference in the Middle East is in

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Speaker 9: America's best interests.

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Speaker 11: So they're the same.

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Speaker 4: So you still support the president, but you don't support

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Speaker 4: this particular war, that's correct.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 4: So when you hear people talking about they've been a

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Speaker 4: threat to the United States for forty seven years, the

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Speaker 4: nuclear threat, they what was that island, the Diego gar

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Speaker 4: Diego Garcia Island. When you see that they actually have

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Speaker 4: the ability to shoot missiles extraordinarily far, but I think

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Speaker 4: that was like two thousand miles away. Does does any

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Speaker 4: of that change the way you think about it? Is

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Speaker 4: it's still just like, hey, it's thousands of miles away.

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Speaker 4: It's we want to be nation built here at home.

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Speaker 9: Well, like you said, they we've been saying Iran has

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Speaker 9: been building a nuke for forty seven years and they

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Speaker 9: just don't have one.

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Speaker 11: So sure, so I don't really see them.

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Speaker 4: When you see Jared Kushner and Steve woodcoff say we

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Speaker 4: sat with them and they said they have enough nuclear

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Speaker 4: material to build eleven nukes. That those kind of things

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Speaker 4: don't change your calculus. I'm not giving I'm not trying

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Speaker 4: to tell you right or wrong.

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Speaker 3: I'm just wondering.

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Speaker 4: I'm trying to get inside your psyche, like what works,

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Speaker 4: what is persuasive, what's not well.

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Speaker 9: I think the military in the Operation Epic Fury, they've

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Speaker 9: been targeting those facilities and they have hit them. We've

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Speaker 9: decimated their nuclear capacity from what I have seen.

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Speaker 13: Can I just add something I actually disagree. I think

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Speaker 13: that they're a threat to our national security, and I

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Speaker 13: think that what Trump is doing is a broader part

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Speaker 13: of trying to limit long term threats.

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Speaker 4: So you're saying, I'm not persuaded by these and let's

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Speaker 4: just call them talking points.

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Speaker 3: They may be true or they may maybe some of

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Speaker 3: them may not be true. But you've heard this like

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Speaker 3: forty seven years.

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Speaker 4: This is a war that's been going on, or it's

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Speaker 4: a problem that's been left to fester, and so you're

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Speaker 4: not persuaded by those you it sounds like, are more persuaded.

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Speaker 3: What what do you think about your peers? Though?

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Speaker 4: If you had to, like take a snapshot of the

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Speaker 4: Turning Point chapter, a lot of conservative young people. Is

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Speaker 4: it fifty to fifty seventy thirty?

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Speaker 11: I would say it's twenty eighty eighty percent being not.

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Speaker 3: Against it against? Would you agree with that? Okay?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's listen, there's no right or wrong

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Speaker 4: answers here. I just want to know the truth. I

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Speaker 4: want to like get inside the brain of the gen

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Speaker 4: Z college student. So I don't know if you have

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Speaker 4: a follow up on that, specifically on Iran, but it's

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Speaker 4: fertile ground obviously.

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Speaker 3: What do you want to see what happened? Yeah?

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Speaker 6: I mean I would also just i'd be interested in

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Speaker 6: not just the war.

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Speaker 5: But like the bigger picture.

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Speaker 4: Well yeah, yeah, but while we've got a minute and

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Speaker 4: fifty seven left, So the point is, what would you

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Speaker 4: like to see happen?

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Speaker 3: I mean, at this point we're in it, do you

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Speaker 3: just is it.

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Speaker 4: Like the goal is to get out as quickly as possible,

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Speaker 4: that would be a win. I mean, is there any

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Speaker 4: salvaging this? Do you think that Do you think that

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Speaker 4: you said eighty or against? Do you think those eighty

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Speaker 4: percent are still going to vote for President Trump in

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Speaker 4: the midterm or the Republicans the midterms or yes, I.

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Speaker 9: Still think they vote for Trump in the mid terms. However,

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Speaker 9: I think the end goal would be regime change, which

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Speaker 9: I'm totally against. I mean, iron when they experienced our

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Speaker 9: interference with their regime put implementing the SHAW, they overthrew it.

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Speaker 9: So I don't think the United States has very much a.

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Speaker 3: Good track record in the track.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, exactly, and I would say the same for my peers.

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Speaker 3: And maybe take that same question.

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Speaker 4: But outside of turning point, you know, a lot of

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Speaker 4: people voted for President Trump for the first time. Maybe

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Speaker 4: you were one of them in twenty twenty four. I

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Speaker 4: don't know if you were old enough yet. But do

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Speaker 4: you feel like he's lost a bunch of people that

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Speaker 4: are never going to vote Republican now or do you

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Speaker 4: think it's salvageable.

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Speaker 13: I don't know about a bunch of people. I would

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Speaker 13: say definitely the higher propensity to Republicans will probably be

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Speaker 13: voting for him Again, maybe the lower propensity to Republicans

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Speaker 13: that maybe this was their first time voting Republican or

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Speaker 13: they tend to lean more moderate. I think maybe he

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Speaker 13: might have lost some of their votes.

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Speaker 3: Got it all right?

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Speaker 4: Well, I think this is listen again, no right or

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Speaker 4: wrong answers. Will you just want to hear what you

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Speaker 4: really think? Okay, this is not you know, toe the

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Speaker 4: party line hour, So let's take this broader. What are

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Speaker 4: would you say are the main issues that students are

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Speaker 4: talking about when it comes.

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Speaker 3: To politics right now?

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Speaker 9: Immigration, for sure, that's definitely split up right now. I

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Speaker 9: would say the Conservatives are for more mass deportations and

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Speaker 9: liberals are more for you know, aiding them and helping

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Speaker 9: them and since they help out our economy, oh they

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Speaker 9: should stay here is definitely an issue. And then again affordability, Uh,

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Speaker 9: prices are skyrocketed, wages are low.

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Speaker 13: That's exactly what I was gonna say. Immigration too, Immigration

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Speaker 13: and affordability.

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Speaker 4: So obviously the Turning Point chapter wants more of a

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Speaker 4: hardline immigration approach.

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Speaker 3: But what about the larger student body.

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Speaker 13: I think at a s U I conducted interviews regarding ICE.

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Speaker 13: We had a bunch of ICE protests on campus. When

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Speaker 13: was that like a month ago maybe, And it was

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Speaker 13: an overwhelming response of f ICE, get them off of

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Speaker 13: our campus, get them out of America, you know, like

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Speaker 13: nobody's you know, like on stolen land, you know kind

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Speaker 13: of stuff. Yeah and yeah, I mean we conducted maybe

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Speaker 13: twenty interviews that day and I think we only got

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Speaker 13: two people that were pro ICE. So that was really

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Speaker 13: eye opening.

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Speaker 4: So maybe them helping with the TSA lines is this

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Speaker 4: huge new PR blitz where they're going.

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Speaker 5: To I mean, i'd have to believe that.

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Speaker 6: My guess is you actually probably just need to steamroll

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Speaker 6: this sentiment, is my guess.

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Speaker 3: What do you mean?

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Speaker 6: Well, Like, I don't think the kind of person who

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Speaker 6: thinks ICE is a fascist paramilitary because they enforce our

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Speaker 6: laws are going to be won over by a TSA line.

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Speaker 6: I think they have they have just kind of have

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Speaker 6: a virus in their brain. I mean, especially if they're

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Speaker 6: also falling for oh, like the US is on stolen

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Speaker 6: land land back. These people they just want to destroy America. Yeah, unfortunately,

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Speaker 6: a very tempting attitude.

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Speaker 3: So what about jobs?

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Speaker 4: When we talk about immigration H one B, there was

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Speaker 4: some students we'd had on that were super focused on

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Speaker 4: H one B.

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Speaker 3: Do you guys talk about H one B maybe stealing

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Speaker 3: college grads jobs.

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Speaker 11: Here and there.

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Speaker 9: It's definitely there's way too many H one B visas

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Speaker 9: going out that should be going to American citizens first.

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Speaker 11: However, that's not it's.

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Speaker 3: Not super top of mind. What about jobs in general?

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Speaker 3: The AI revolution?

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Speaker 11: I did so.

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Speaker 9: One of Jack's talking points was in the agricultual sector

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Speaker 9: which immigrants work in, replacing them with AI when they're

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Speaker 9: deported because of the wages are song like robotics and things, Yeah, mechanization,

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Speaker 9: things like that.

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Speaker 11: I totally disagree with that.

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Speaker 9: I do think it should be going to Americans, even

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Speaker 9: if that means UH corporations and farms have to raise

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Speaker 9: their wages to incentivize.

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Speaker 4: I think automation's probably coming one way the but maybe

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Speaker 4: there's some Yeah, I agree with you. In general, if

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Speaker 4: there's jobs that need to be done, give those two

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Speaker 4: Americans too. Absolutely, Yeah, go ahead, Blake, were you trying to?

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Speaker 3: Okay?

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Speaker 4: So what are the big topics? Maybe they're related to politics,

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Speaker 4: Maybe they're not that are top of mind right now.

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Speaker 4: Maybe the cultural musical, Maybe it's dating relationships, maybe it's apps.

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Speaker 3: What are people? What are kids talking about on college

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Speaker 3: campus right now?

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Speaker 9: Well, I think because we're in the political part of campus,

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Speaker 9: we interact with a lot of political people. Politics is

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Speaker 9: obviously one. Donald Trump is a huge one. No one

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Speaker 9: likes him his executive of cabinet. They're all questioning him.

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Speaker 9: Maybe social media as well, that's a big topic, just

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Speaker 9: like the dating market.

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Speaker 11: Uh, they don't like it.

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Speaker 3: Looks maxing, Yeah, it looks maxing.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we talked about that. Actually a SU is well,

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01:15:16,200 --> 01:15:18,920
Speaker 6: a SU has a guy. A s U frat leader

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01:15:19,040 --> 01:15:21,200
Speaker 6: is some character on the internet. Now is that an

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01:15:21,200 --> 01:15:23,080
Speaker 6: actual student at a s U.

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Speaker 5: Or it's not.

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Speaker 9: He's not.

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Speaker 11: He doesn't even go to a of.

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Speaker 3: Course he doesn't. He's he's too busy, like breaking micro

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Speaker 3: fact fractions.

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Speaker 5: Now you're thinking now you're thinking of a different you're

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Speaker 5: thinking of clivocular.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know this because you have to do it

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01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:42,840
Speaker 6: for the show. Yeah, we're educating our audience. We need

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Speaker 6: to know the important issues.

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Speaker 3: So do women in general, because you two are women.

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Speaker 4: If there was a guy here, I'd ask them the

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01:15:49,960 --> 01:15:53,360
Speaker 4: same question reverse, But do women when you're thinking about

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Speaker 4: dating young men?

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01:15:56,720 --> 01:15:59,559
Speaker 3: Is it bleak out there? Is it hard to date?

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Speaker 1: You?

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Speaker 3: Guys? Happy with your choices at.

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Speaker 13: ASU, it's looking pretty dim.

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Speaker 3: Oh.

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Speaker 4: I feel like a lot of women say that about

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Speaker 4: their their local community.

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Speaker 11: So oh, I think the guys are great.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so we have a difference of opinion here, guess Okay, well,

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Speaker 3: what's your beef?

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Speaker 13: What's your your I think that they're too focused on

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01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:26,160
Speaker 13: lust over love. And also I'm young. I'm eighteen. I

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Speaker 13: don't know, like, I just.

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Speaker 3: Want to Okay, So you're like a freshman, then I

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Speaker 3: am a freshman.

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Speaker 13: I just want to do my own thing. I don't

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01:16:30,640 --> 01:16:32,200
Speaker 13: want to you know what I mean. I don't need

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Speaker 13: a date right now.

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Speaker 3: You're eighteen, You're totally right right approach.

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Speaker 9: What you are?

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Speaker 11: You sophomore, I'm nineteen.

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Speaker 3: Okay, and you think you you're you have no.

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Speaker 9: Issues being surrounded with conservative boys like for most of

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Speaker 9: my week. Yeah, they're great, and there's good people in

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Speaker 9: the world, and sure social media can portray these guys

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Speaker 9: as lustful creatures, will innately they are.

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Speaker 11: I think there's more good people.

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Speaker 3: In the gaging.

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Speaker 4: Do you feel like young men are taking their faith

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Speaker 4: seriously about at least the conservative guys. I mean, there

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01:17:03,479 --> 01:17:05,519
Speaker 4: was that NBC poll that pulled all the men and

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Speaker 4: the women, And it was actually the men that wanted

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Speaker 4: to get married, have families like that was their top priorities,

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Speaker 4: and it was the women that put that way down

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Speaker 4: at the bottom of the list. They wanted their careers.

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Speaker 4: They wanted to be boss babes. Do you see that

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Speaker 4: the boss babe thing, the career drive, is that still

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Speaker 4: top of the list for women?

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Speaker 9: You think, Oh, definitely, it may be dilated because of

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01:17:25,160 --> 01:17:27,760
Speaker 9: what I view on social media, But there are some

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01:17:27,960 --> 01:17:32,320
Speaker 9: serious men haters and they're definitely doing the right thing,

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Speaker 9: getting a career, going to school.

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Speaker 11: But there's a balance that we have to achieve with that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you think about the whole career versus

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Speaker 3: family thing? How did you break it down?

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Speaker 13: I think you can have both. I don't understand why

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Speaker 13: you can't have both. I think a lot of women,

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Speaker 13: maybe it's just on social media, like you said, but

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01:17:47,439 --> 01:17:49,040
Speaker 13: I feel like they think they can only have one

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01:17:49,120 --> 01:17:51,519
Speaker 13: or the other, and that's just not true. You can

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Speaker 13: have both.

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Speaker 3: Well, I've heard it said that you can have both

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Speaker 3: but not necessarily at the same.

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Speaker 13: Time, and I don't agree with that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean, you're you're eighteen. You haven't done

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Speaker 3: it yet will.

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Speaker 4: I have three kids, and I will tell you that

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Speaker 4: prioritizing family is a way better long term payoff.

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Speaker 3: That's what I would say.

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Speaker 4: Easy for me to say, I go to work every day,

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Speaker 4: so but my wife is my wife is very in

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Speaker 4: agreement with that. Well, you guys, this has been fascinating

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Speaker 4: in a really good conversation, and so thank you guys

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Speaker 4: for making the time and coming. Thank you for supporting

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Speaker 4: Blake and Jack yesterday. What seems like it was a

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Speaker 4: great event.

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Speaker 13: It was great.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, fantastic, more to come, more to come. Congratulations on

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Speaker 4: the chapter exploding and we'll.

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Speaker 3: See you guys soon.

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Speaker 13: Thank you, guys, God bless you guys.

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Speaker 5: For more on many of these stories and news you

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Speaker 5: can trust, go to Charliekirk dot com.