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Speaker 2: All Right, welcome to The Charlie Kirk Show. It's January sixth,
Speaker 2: fifth anniversary of the fifth anniversary of the New Pearl Harbor.
Speaker 3: Yes, the greatest attack on our democracy, Well, it.
Speaker 2: Was a great attack on patriots that largely did nothing wrong.
Speaker 2: Most of whom were attacked should have probably just been.
Speaker 3: We did the greatest passing, We did the greatest man
Speaker 3: hunt in American history for.
Speaker 2: What could have been settled with a mere trespassing charge.
Speaker 2: And actually, on that note, we here at the Charlie
Speaker 2: Kirk Show are going to pay tribute to some of
Speaker 2: these patriots that are in Washington, d C. Marching to
Speaker 2: raise awareness of injustices that are still unaccounted for. And
Speaker 2: to help us do that is Ben Birkwam Real America's Voice,
Speaker 2: national correspondent and host of Law and Border On America's Voice. Ben,
Speaker 2: Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. Tell us what you're
Speaker 2: doing on the ground and what Yeah, there you are
Speaker 2: walking backwards, beautiful site. Ben, tell us what's going on
Speaker 2: in DC.
Speaker 4: Let me just give you the lay of the land.
Speaker 4: So five years ago today, I was freezing on the Ellipse.
Speaker 4: The Ellipses right over here. We've got the White House
Speaker 4: right off to my left. We've got the Washington Monument
Speaker 4: off to our right. This entire area five years ago
Speaker 4: was packed full of patriotic Americans who loved this country,
Speaker 4: who wanted one simple thing was the truth about the
Speaker 4: twenty twenty elections that the majority at least maga know
Speaker 4: was stolen. And so they came to peacefully assemble. President
Speaker 4: Trump said, peacefully march. And we went down and we
Speaker 4: saw what happened that day. One thing, Andrew. And as
Speaker 4: we're getting up here, we're gonna get to some of
Speaker 4: the the folks that are gonna be marching. There's over
Speaker 4: two hundred January six ers that are here. God bless
Speaker 4: you guys. You should be thankful you live in a
Speaker 4: free country. God bless President Trump.
Speaker 2: Huh, good for you, bet and so.
Speaker 4: But this is the uh, this is the You look
Speaker 4: at what happened, the injustice that happened to these guys,
Speaker 4: and you compare that to where we're at now in
Speaker 4: our country. And the bottom line is the message is
Speaker 4: very simple. We've started it the president. Thank god President
Speaker 4: Trump won the election. Thank god he made the pardons.
Speaker 4: But until the people that orchestrated the real coup against
Speaker 4: President Trump, the four years of a coup against President Trump,
Speaker 4: the insurrection against President Trump, all of the Russia collusion hoax,
Speaker 4: all of that nonsense, the impeachments, everything else. Until they're
Speaker 4: held accountable, the Deep States held accountable, the American people
Speaker 4: aren't gonna rest. And so that's what we're here today.
Speaker 4: We're gonna be talking to some of those two hundred
Speaker 4: January six ers and helping, you know, get their stories out.
Speaker 4: Some of them still struggling, many of them not here today,
Speaker 4: committed suicide, and so it's just, you know, it's a
Speaker 4: bittersweet day, but thank god they're out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Ben. Two points on this one is people don't
Speaker 2: really know this part of the story behind the pardons
Speaker 2: of the JA sixers. But and that was getting debated
Speaker 2: during the transition. Actually, Charlie was in the room and
Speaker 2: spoke up very vociferously on their behalf and said, pardon
Speaker 2: them all, pardon them all. And that's ultimately what President
Speaker 2: Trump did. So I want people to know that piece
Speaker 2: of the story. And I remember when he told me
Speaker 2: about that, and I said, good for you. At second
Speaker 2: piece here, Ben, Yeah, for the audience, please, you know,
Speaker 2: you talk about the personal stories. I mean a lot
Speaker 2: of these people should have if anything right, they should
Speaker 2: have been maybe a trespassing charge. Instead, there was this
Speaker 2: man hunt across the country. Homes were raided, families disrupted,
Speaker 2: pregnant wives left without their husbands, and then they were
Speaker 2: placed in you know, these jail cells, the gulag inside
Speaker 2: of DC. Tell us more about some of the personal
Speaker 2: stories from these JA six political prisoners that you've heard
Speaker 2: on the ground.
Speaker 4: Well, first to your your first point about Charlie and
Speaker 4: America misses Charlie. Every single day, Charlie was the so
Speaker 4: instrumental not just getting President Trump elected, but really this
Speaker 4: this Maga genesis in the next generation, in Gen Z
Speaker 4: and the next generation. But the seeds that Charlie planted
Speaker 4: were seeing the fruits of those, and I pray we
Speaker 4: continue to see the fruits of those every day. And
Speaker 4: to your point, what Charlie said is the only way
Speaker 4: it could have happened, because to parse through every single
Speaker 4: one of these I think of my friend Coy Griffin,
Speaker 4: who was there that day, never went inside the building.
Speaker 4: He's cowboys for Trump. He went up there, had a
Speaker 4: megaphone and simply went up on the steps to pray
Speaker 4: over the crowd. He got on a megaphone, prayed over
Speaker 4: the crowd, and then he left. He got stuck in
Speaker 4: solitary confinement for two weeks. He wasn't able to see
Speaker 4: an attorney, wasn't able to call a family member, slept
Speaker 4: on a cold floor for praying on a megaphone, and
Speaker 4: their story after story after story like that. As you
Speaker 4: mentioned trespassing, that's the worst that some people did not
Speaker 4: even knowing they were trespassing when it was a fence
Speaker 4: basically like this. It was green, this is metal, it
Speaker 4: was plastic. That was taken down within minutes before I
Speaker 4: even arrived. We marched from this location down to the house.
Speaker 4: When I got there, there were no fences up. You
Speaker 4: had no idea that there was any barricade that anyone
Speaker 4: had crossed through. And so a lot of people entered
Speaker 4: that day that space not even realizing that they were
Speaker 4: breaking the law going into a place. Now, obviously we
Speaker 4: saw some of the violence, we saw the attacks. The
Speaker 4: question is how much of that was instigated. We're getting
Speaker 4: We're only getting the tip of the iceberg on how
Speaker 4: involved the federal government was, how many FBI agents were there,
Speaker 4: which ones of those actually instigated anything, How many Antifa
Speaker 4: and BLM members were there. We know John Sullivan. We
Speaker 4: know many other BLM and ANTIFA were there to instigate violence,
Speaker 4: but the bottom line is we don't know.
Speaker 5: We still know.
Speaker 2: Less than we know.
Speaker 4: There's a lot we don't know, and the question is
Speaker 4: will we ever get to the bottom of it. But
Speaker 4: to the stories, it's just crazy. I mean, they weren't given.
Speaker 4: Shane Jenkins, big dude, big burly guy. You look at him,
Speaker 4: you think, man, that's a tough guy. When he talks
Speaker 4: about just sitting in that cell, he was in there
Speaker 4: for over a thousand days. There were months that he
Speaker 4: went where he couldn't brush his teeth, he couldn't clip
Speaker 4: his nails, couldn't no haircuts, I mean, little simple things
Speaker 4: like that, but just treated like animals. And you compare
Speaker 4: the way that January six ers were treated compared to
Speaker 4: BLM and Antifa, who were burning down our country for
Speaker 4: four years, who were actually trying to destroy our country
Speaker 4: from within, who professed that they want to destroy America,
Speaker 4: they want to remake it and their and their their anarchist,
Speaker 4: communist vision. When we're talking about January six ers, we're
Speaker 4: talking about patriots that love this country, that want to
Speaker 4: restore the values of this nation. So huge difference between
Speaker 4: the people that were arrested and they the way they
Speaker 4: were treated from all of the real insurrectionists that got
Speaker 4: away with it. Most of the guys in BLM that
Speaker 4: were burning down their cities never even got charged. Most
Speaker 4: of Antifa never even got charged. And so that that's
Speaker 4: the when you look at it, it's the it's the
Speaker 4: two tiers of justice.
Speaker 2: Then a lot of those BLM rioters got settlements from
Speaker 2: the cities that they that they helped burn down. So crazy,
Speaker 2: So that's so crazy talk about anarcho tyranny. It's the
Speaker 2: lab binding people that try and do things the right
Speaker 2: way that the regime will target and harass. And it's
Speaker 2: the rioters, the law breakers, the criminals, the illegal immigrants
Speaker 2: that get free passed, They get money, they get subsidies,
Speaker 2: and then they get settlements from blue states and blue cities.
Speaker 2: You know, what's an interesting story. You can throw this
Speaker 2: up to twelve reporting from Paul Sperry. New records show
Speaker 2: US Capitol Police Captain Michael Byrd, who fatally shot unarmed
Speaker 2: J six protester Ashley bad of It without warning, has
Speaker 2: been running an unaccredited daycare center with wife Kolesca from
Speaker 2: their Maryland homes since two thousand and eight, that Maryland
Speaker 2: has received over one hundred and ninety million dollars in
Speaker 2: HHS daycare funds.
Speaker 3: Well, if it's unaccredited, is the idea that they're not right?
Speaker 2: Apparently?
Speaker 3: I don't think I'm ever going to get mad at
Speaker 3: someone for running an questions emerged.
Speaker 2: You can throw up to eleven. It's just funny how
Speaker 2: these different storylines bend seem to overlap. So this is
Speaker 2: from town Hall. On January sixth, questions emerged about Michael
Speaker 2: Bird's taxpayer funded Maryland day care. That's out of town Hall.
Speaker 2: So well, think about it's just it's just one of
Speaker 2: those funny, funny uh overlaps.
Speaker 4: Yeah, think about the way uh Michael Bird was treated
Speaker 4: while while BLM was raging across America. He shoots without warning,
Speaker 4: as you mentioned, an unarmed civilian who a veteran of
Speaker 4: our country, who was simply there, you know again, wanting
Speaker 4: answers to a stolen election, shoots and kills her, no accountability.
Speaker 4: In fact, he gets promoted. And and you look at
Speaker 4: how officers were treated obviously, George Floyd and and Chauvin,
Speaker 4: and that whole charade how they were treated, but the
Speaker 4: difference between the left and the the activist response to it.
Speaker 4: The bird became a hero to the left for murdering
Speaker 4: Ashley Babbitt, while other cops who actually were doing their
Speaker 4: jobs against real criminals were demonized and ostracides and lost
Speaker 4: their jobs. Many times, it is it's again, it's it
Speaker 4: all goes back to that double standard. But then you
Speaker 4: also compare that now to what we're finally finding out.
Speaker 4: How did it take this long? Yeah, to get some answers.
Speaker 4: Shout out to Nick Shirley and the work he did,
Speaker 4: but to get some answers on this fraud and shout
Speaker 4: out to Doge. The only real reason that we have
Speaker 4: most of these all of this fraud information about all
Speaker 4: these fake daycare is because of Doge.
Speaker 2: I got a wrap bend. But give our love to
Speaker 2: Mickey Ashley's mom. I saw that she's there with you.
Speaker 2: God bless you, sir, Thanks for putting a spotlight on
Speaker 2: this important story.
Speaker 4: God bless you.
Speaker 5: Guys. Talk to you soon.
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Speaker 2: whatever you think about January sixth, whatever you think about it,
Speaker 2: because yeah, we shouldn't have been, you know, going inside
Speaker 2: a capitol. But I remember, by the way, Blake, I
Speaker 2: remember doing that show live that morning with Charlie from
Speaker 2: Phoenix and being like, please get out, please get out,
Speaker 2: because we knew what they were gonna do. They were
Speaker 2: gonna use this against this pod. It was so obviously bad.
Speaker 2: It was so yes. But regardless of what you know,
Speaker 2: what you think about the particulars on that day, these
Speaker 2: were a lot of really amazing patriots that got caught
Speaker 2: up in a drag net and a man hunt. As
Speaker 2: you said in the first segment, that should have been
Speaker 2: reserved for the likes of Nicholas Maduro. The way that
Speaker 2: they came in, guns ablazing, raiding these people's homes was
Speaker 2: an absolute travesty and a mistrial, a miscarriage of justice.
Speaker 2: And I'm glad that we're celebrating their stories because so
Speaker 2: many of these people had their lives absolutely ruined for
Speaker 2: basically a trespassing charge. Okay, all right, moving on to
Speaker 2: our next story here, this story made me think of you, Blake,
Speaker 2: And that's why we put it on the rundown here,
Speaker 2: and that is The New York Times has come out
Speaker 2: with a whole piece about why Trump and the Trump
Speaker 2: administration has soured on Machado. Now, Machado is the it's
Speaker 2: like the old SNL bit, you gotta so then, so
Speaker 2: there was rumors going around that that Trump had lost
Speaker 2: faith in her because she didn't deny the Nobel Peace Prize,
Speaker 2: and so we should supply.
Speaker 3: Some context to those give us Mashadow was the candidate
Speaker 3: in the most recent Venezuelas or she they evicted her,
Speaker 3: she was going to.
Speaker 2: Be that she couldn't run. She couldn't run, so she
Speaker 2: had sort of a proxy.
Speaker 3: So, yes, exactly her location apparently is unknown right now.
Speaker 2: Yes, she's been under threat.
Speaker 3: And then the other guy was in I think he
Speaker 3: fled the country for Spain. Yes, so, but she was
Speaker 3: the opposition leader, so she was a common figurehead for
Speaker 3: the Venezuelan opposition. And then right after they abducted Maduro,
Speaker 3: it seemed plausible that they would say, okay, install the
Speaker 3: opposition leader. Because we'd been endorsing the Venezuelan position. We said,
Speaker 3: they actually.
Speaker 2: Went and she got the Nobel Peace Prize assumption.
Speaker 3: Assumption, and then she won the Nobel Peace Prize back
Speaker 3: in October instead of Trump, and Trump was just very
Speaker 3: public campaigning for that award in an interesting way, and
Speaker 3: they awarded it to her instead.
Speaker 2: She actually did even the day she received it, she
Speaker 2: dedicated it to Trump. Yes. Uh, but apparently they believed
Speaker 2: she should have a hold on Now, this was a rumor.
Speaker 2: It's unsubstantiated, but it was stated.
Speaker 3: It was reported by the Washington.
Speaker 2: So so they which we know, never lies about anything.
Speaker 3: The Washington Post has So the rumor has been going
Speaker 3: around that Trump soured on Machado because she didn't just
Speaker 3: decline the award and offer it to Trump.
Speaker 2: I thought that that sounded silly, Okay. So there's a
Speaker 2: big piece in the New York Times that is detailing
Speaker 2: why the Trump administration decided not to back Marina Maria
Speaker 2: Karina Machado as Maduro's replacement, and it has nothing to
Speaker 2: do with her winning the Nobel Peace Prize. So I
Speaker 2: don't know if you want to take this or if
Speaker 2: you sure.
Speaker 3: Well, what's probably most interesting about it is, it seems,
Speaker 3: honestly the first a point that of it is the
Speaker 3: most interesting, which is apparently Marco Rubio talked to President
Speaker 3: Trump out of doing it. He said, I'll quote from
Speaker 3: Ryan Savega's summary, if the United States tried to back
Speaker 3: the opposition, it could further destabilize the country and require
Speaker 3: a more robust military presence inside of it. And a
Speaker 3: classified CAA intelligence analysis reflected that view. They were also
Speaker 3: frustrated that they believed her assessments of the situation in
Speaker 3: Venezuela were inaccurate, that she underestimated Maduro's strength, that they
Speaker 3: were skeptical of her ability to seize power. Apparently Rick
Speaker 3: Grinnell would go and have meetings and he was just
Speaker 3: very annoyed with her.
Speaker 2: When he tried to have an in person meeting. The
Speaker 2: US tried to guarantee her security, and apparently she refused
Speaker 2: to do that or it somehow didn't materialize despite those
Speaker 2: promises in those assurances of security, but also that they
Speaker 2: asked for a list of political prisoners. Apparently that didn't happen.
Speaker 2: Over time, the relationship deteriorated to according to people briefed
Speaker 2: on the interactions, Machado and her team ignored the request
Speaker 2: for a list of political prisoners so there was also
Speaker 2: this issue that Machado had been taking a pretty forceful
Speaker 2: stance asking for more sanctions against Maduro backed businesses and products.
Speaker 2: The whole thing is she does and that alienated her
Speaker 2: from the business class. Well, she comes off as just
Speaker 2: generally being very uncompromising. So it has like, for example,
Speaker 2: Machada was upset that Rick Garnell did not denounce Maduro
Speaker 2: as illegitimate, when Grenell believed that that would undercut any
Speaker 2: diplomatic thing, no negotiations with Maduro's government. They were still
Speaker 2: trying to have a conversation, so we were.
Speaker 3: Open to a negotiated exit for Maduro, and she seemed
Speaker 3: to kind of have the attitude of Maduro just has
Speaker 3: to quit, and so it just seems they got very
Speaker 3: fed up with her, which is a very good adventure
Speaker 3: in third world politics.
Speaker 2: I suppose it sounds like she basically there's reason to
Speaker 2: believe that she had alienated many members of Venezuela's like
Speaker 2: sort of elite right, the business class, the civil society.
Speaker 3: Our position is that she's the valid opposition leader and
Speaker 3: that she her proxy won the election. So you kind
Speaker 3: of you believe in elections or you don't, as well,
Speaker 3: and I think the opening point is one of the
Speaker 3: most interesting, which is Rubio arguing if we back the opposition,
Speaker 3: it could destabilize the country. Reading between the lines there,
Speaker 3: that kind of suggests there's there's more support for the regime.
Speaker 3: Seventy third might have otherwise thought. But I mean, even
Speaker 3: if it's.
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Speaker 5: That was a game plan, open up the borders, flood
Speaker 5: blue states for more people would be counting the census,
Speaker 5: that gives them more members of Congress, make them more
Speaker 5: dependent on government, that grows, government that gives them greater
Speaker 5: power again, that is what the Democrat Party is all about.
Speaker 5: Power Again. The shutdown wasn't about literally the enhanced subs.
Speaker 5: He was about making sure that President Trump has no
Speaker 5: success they want. They're happy to take anybody hostage, whatever
Speaker 5: the cloudal damage, bad economy so that they can win
Speaker 5: in November and retain power.
Speaker 2: Democrats want power, they want to rule over the ashes,
Speaker 2: and they don't care how they get it. That was
Speaker 2: the point made by the great Senator Ron Johnson from
Speaker 2: the state of Wisconsin. He joins us now, Senator, welcome
Speaker 2: back to the show. It's great to see you. I
Speaker 2: happen to be on that same show coming on after you,
Speaker 2: and I was watching the program you were with Charlie Hurd.
Speaker 2: I was on a few segments later and I was
Speaker 2: watching you, going like he's absolutely right, and I text
Speaker 2: your team. I was like, I got to get him
Speaker 2: on to talk about this because what we're seeing in
Speaker 2: so many of these blue states and with the Somali
Speaker 2: fraud ring, is you see that the tentacles of flooding
Speaker 2: the world with Third worlders and illegal immigrants, and they
Speaker 2: we're seeing now that this is not just fraud. This
Speaker 2: could have voting implications. You mentioned the census, maybe build
Speaker 2: out that point of how what this scheme for power
Speaker 2: is really all about.
Speaker 5: Well, it happened to year guys. Yeah, you know my
Speaker 5: concern about what's been uncovered in Minnesota with the you know,
Speaker 5: Somali childcare fraud and medicaid fraud. That type thing is
Speaker 5: that you know, people will say, Okay, well we found it.
Speaker 5: That's the problem. It's it's literally just a tip of
Speaker 5: the iceberg. These programs have been designed to be abused,
Speaker 5: to be difficult to really investigate and convict people based
Speaker 5: on fraud. But you know the bottom line, you know,
Speaker 5: Democrats have always just sought power to conservatives. It makes
Speaker 5: no sense. I mean, I've got enough dealing with my
Speaker 5: own life. I mean, why do you want to control
Speaker 5: somebody else's life. But that's what Democrats want to do.
Speaker 5: That they want to grow government so they can have
Speaker 5: the power to control the people's lives. And in order
Speaker 5: to grow government, they've created all these programs that people
Speaker 5: sign up for. They daisy chain them, so you sign
Speaker 5: up for one, you qualify for another or another another.
Speaker 5: They open the borders during Obama and then again during
Speaker 5: Biden to allow people to flood in this country. Very
Speaker 5: few people really understand that even illegal immigrants get counted
Speaker 5: in the census. So when you counted the census, then
Speaker 5: they basically reapportion the congressional seats. Those states, the sanctuary
Speaker 5: states that encourage the illegal immigrants to flood to their states,
Speaker 5: they get more members of Congress. That means they've got
Speaker 5: more votes. And when you've got Congresses evenly divided as
Speaker 5: we are, one of two seats may make the difference
Speaker 5: between having Democrats in total control government like they were
Speaker 5: when they passed Obamacare to carry out some other massive
Speaker 5: communists and socialists type of program that, as we're seeing
Speaker 5: with Obamacare, is utterly failed. But it was designed to fail.
Speaker 5: So again that's the whole point. All these programs are
Speaker 5: designed to grow government, to make more people dependent on government,
Speaker 5: so they've got the power that people are dependent on
Speaker 5: voting them back into office. It's sick to conservative, it
Speaker 5: makes no sense whatsoever. But that's exactly what Democrats are.
Speaker 5: That's what they're all about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I couldn't help hear that you were echoing
Speaker 2: some of the sentiments from the great Stephen Miller play
Speaker 2: cut two ten. This was not a loophole.
Speaker 6: The body of the administration Secretary of Homeland Security Allehandra
Speaker 6: Majorkis devised a scheme to fly illegal aliens into the
Speaker 6: country and then to escort them in mass across the
Speaker 6: board by the millions, and to give them something known
Speaker 6: as parole, which gives them a work permit, which gives
Speaker 6: them which gives them a Social Security number, which gives
Speaker 6: them access to the voting booth. This was the plan
Speaker 6: all along to get them here illegally so they can
Speaker 6: get free government benefits, get hooked to welfare and be
Speaker 6: able to participate in an American elections.
Speaker 2: And one more clip here for you, Senator. This is
Speaker 2: from Nick Shirley and David. We had Nick Shirley on
Speaker 2: the show. We don't know David's last name, but he's
Speaker 2: a patriot in Minnesota that helped uncover this massive viral story.
Speaker 2: And now they're talking about how these Somali immigrants are
Speaker 2: engaging potentially. I mean, I think it's fairly certain in
Speaker 2: voter front play cut two nineteen and.
Speaker 7: They're all Somali. You're talking probably one hundred thousand or
Speaker 7: more people, and they're all living rent free. They're driving
Speaker 7: a vehicle that you paid for, they're eating food that
Speaker 7: you paid for. Everything they do is something that you
Speaker 7: paid for.
Speaker 1: And for instance, now entire block, well, then go and
Speaker 1: vote for well specific candidate.
Speaker 7: They'll have one person go there and collect all the ballots,
Speaker 7: and nobody tracks. They could say they have nine people
Speaker 7: living in an apartment, They're going to send them nine ballots,
Speaker 7: and then they have someone who comes along collects all
Speaker 7: the ballots.
Speaker 2: So the scheme, the jig is up here, even when
Speaker 2: it's not that bad.
Speaker 3: I remember accounts like so a lot of them don't
Speaker 3: speak English. So if you can't speak English, you're allowed
Speaker 3: to have an interpreter in the booth. And there's tons
Speaker 3: of accounts where you bring in everyone all at once,
Speaker 3: and they have the same guy going like, that's our guy,
Speaker 3: that's our guy, that's our guy, that's the guy. Yeah,
Speaker 3: really really making you know, really displaying the sanctity of
Speaker 3: the secret ballot.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it's so exactly. I mean, it seems like
Speaker 2: the jig is up. We pay these people to come here,
Speaker 2: we settle them, we give them free money, they loot
Speaker 2: the system, commit fraud, and then they vote Democrat. The
Speaker 2: question is what do you do about it now?
Speaker 5: Senator, Well, the problem is you've got about half the
Speaker 5: country that votes Democrat, and they have no problem with this.
Speaker 5: They also want to get their guys and gals into office,
Speaker 5: so they just look the other other way. My concerned
Speaker 5: about only focusing on what's happening in Minnesota, and I'm
Speaker 5: happy to do that. We have to use that as
Speaker 5: a springboard to investigate all the fraud. You know, I'm
Speaker 5: older than you guys. I live through the development of
Speaker 5: the big State, the War on poverty, which is utterly failed.
Speaker 5: But what it did do is a grew government. Back then,
Speaker 5: when I grew up, you know, my dad worked, my
Speaker 5: mom stayed at home. We weren't very wealthy, but we
Speaker 5: had a great life. You know, parents of faith, they
Speaker 5: loved their kids, supportive homes, but that was the norm.
Speaker 5: You didn't need to earn her families. Nowadays you can't
Speaker 5: really survive that way. And what's really tragic is the
Speaker 5: individuals that do work their tail off, you know, making
Speaker 5: seventy eighty ninety thousand bucks a year in a place
Speaker 5: like Wisconsin, paying taxes, carrying the load for the people
Speaker 5: who then do videos on social media taunting the hard workers, saying,
Speaker 5: look all these benefits I'm getting. You'll take a look
Speaker 5: at how much money I've got on my EBT card.
Speaker 5: Thank you for funding my lifestyle. It is just galling
Speaker 5: and you take a look at some of the work
Speaker 5: by people like former Center Phil Graham that talks about
Speaker 5: on average people in the wall, you know, benefit from
Speaker 5: the wealth fair state. Not get down about fifty seven
Speaker 5: thousand dollars a year tax free benefits, consider their depth.
Speaker 5: They don't have to work, which is why you've got
Speaker 5: about twenty percent of the adult male work of population
Speaker 5: out of the workforce permanently. So they don't have to
Speaker 5: We pay them not to work. We now pay for
Speaker 5: their healthcare. And the Medicaid expansion, the Obamacare expansion and
Speaker 5: Medicaid is crowding out disabled children from providers because it's
Speaker 5: more lucrative to get reimbursed nine dollars to one dollar
Speaker 5: for a single adult. So again, this has been designed.
Speaker 5: Obamacare was designed to make people dependent on government for
Speaker 5: the healthcare so it could be abused, you know, provider
Speaker 5: tax I mean, I could go on and on and on.
Speaker 5: This is by design. This is exactly what the Democrat
Speaker 5: Party set out to do, and it's worked marvelously well
Speaker 5: for them. It's terrible for America.
Speaker 2: So is the issue. Senator in this block Grant the way,
Speaker 2: it's sort of like the federal government it's giving money
Speaker 2: to a state like Minnesota or Wisconsin or wherever, Ohio,
Speaker 2: and then the state is then entrusted with policing the system.
Speaker 2: So it But if you get a state like Minnesota
Speaker 2: where the Democrat politicians are incentivized, especially with a community
Speaker 2: that votes in blocks, like the Somali community, they're incentivized
Speaker 2: to then turn the other cheek, to turn a blind
Speaker 2: eye to the fraud right in front of them. Is
Speaker 2: that the problem with the system or is it run
Speaker 2: deeper than that?
Speaker 5: The overall problem is just the massive amount of money
Speaker 5: we spend. Now, JAO issues an improper payment report since
Speaker 5: two thousand and three, since that point in time, they've
Speaker 5: they've logged about two point eight trillion dollars of improper payments.
Speaker 5: Now that's a very imprecise term. That also is probably
Speaker 5: just the tip of the iceberg. So yeah, I mean,
Speaker 5: the federal government is the easiest entity to fleece, and
Speaker 5: so it gets fleeced all the time. And I keep
Speaker 5: pointing out, you know, the Somalies the relatively knew this country.
Speaker 5: They're amateurs relative to the entrench's interest. You know, the
Speaker 5: military destrial complex. Mean, I can tell you a story
Speaker 5: after a story of small businesses who create a product
Speaker 5: for the defense industry. You sold it at pennies on
Speaker 5: the dollar versus what the big contractor bought them and
Speaker 5: then started charging the Defense Department for. So again, we
Speaker 5: get fleeced across the board on every in every program
Speaker 5: of government. So the solution is you have to reduce
Speaker 5: the size, scope and cost government. But that's not the
Speaker 5: path we're on. And regrettably, you know, I was one
Speaker 5: of the big holdouts on the Reconciliation bill because I
Speaker 5: was imploring, I was begging the administration of my colleagues.
Speaker 5: You guys, we have to return to reasonable pre pandemic
Speaker 5: global spending. This is absurdity. We went from four point
Speaker 5: four trillion to over seven trillion dollars. We have to
Speaker 5: return to a reasonable baseline. But you know, doing those
Speaker 5: types of spending reductions that kind of constraint, it's not
Speaker 5: policely popular. It's often set here in Washington. See show
Speaker 5: me a member of Congress whoever lost because they spent
Speaker 5: too much money. You can't. And that's until the public,
Speaker 5: until the public demands it. And that's the beauty of
Speaker 5: the Nick Shirley video is the working people of this country,
Speaker 5: And the question is are there enough of them? They've
Speaker 5: seen that that are properly outraged by how they are
Speaker 5: getting screwed, how they're being taken advantage of. These people
Speaker 5: then go on social media and taunt them for giving
Speaker 5: this lifestyle where they don't have to work. You work
Speaker 5: your tail, if you pay the taxes, and I'll live
Speaker 5: in I'll live in the lap of luxury off off
Speaker 5: of the benefits you provide me. Are there enough for Americans?
Speaker 5: Have we already crossed that rubicon where there are too
Speaker 5: many people going to vote themselves benefits, vote for Democrats,
Speaker 5: and this democracy, this republic is over. That's the sixty
Speaker 5: four thousand dollars question. I can't answer it well.
Speaker 2: It's terrifying fork in the road that you're presenting. It's
Speaker 2: something Blake and I argue about off the air all
Speaker 2: the time. Is there enough virtue left in the people?
Speaker 2: You know, we often say that you get the leaders
Speaker 2: that you deserve, and you know, Charlie's message was always
Speaker 2: like a type of person worthy of great leadership. It
Speaker 2: starts individually. Are there enough good people left? Right? And that?
Speaker 2: And that is the question. The other question, though, Senator,
Speaker 2: is you know, how do we reform our elections so
Speaker 2: that you know, Somali uh one Somali can collect eight
Speaker 2: different ballots, nobody checks it, just hands them all in uh.
Speaker 2: And that's you know. Trump was mentioning it this morning
Speaker 2: with in front of the House, GOP guys, the Save
Speaker 2: Act play cut two twenty.
Speaker 8: You want to have voter ID, you want to insist
Speaker 8: on it, You want to insist on it. The only
Speaker 8: reason somebody doesn't want that is because they want to cheat.
Speaker 8: And you you would have passed the Safe Act or
Speaker 8: whatever you're gonna call is it?
Speaker 2: I mean, so it's it's getting mentioned again, Senator. Is
Speaker 2: there any hope of this? Is there any political will?
Speaker 2: Or do we have the votes?
Speaker 5: One of the reasons I reluctantly again, I think the
Speaker 5: philibuster has prevented us from being a socialist nation for decades.
Speaker 5: But Democrats they're gonna over, They're gonna get rid of
Speaker 5: the philibuster. So we better beat them to the punch,
Speaker 5: and and to do it, so we actually pass pieces
Speaker 5: of legislation like to Save Act. So some overall federal
Speaker 5: controls and the controls we're out put in place are
Speaker 5: the same thing as our State Department advises other nations
Speaker 5: to hold free and fairy elections. We don't follow own advice. Okay.
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Speaker 2: Senator Ron Johnson, you brought up you opened a huge
Speaker 2: can of worms. You said something that Blake and I
Speaker 2: have been having ongoing debates about the filibuster. I am
Speaker 2: still on the fence because I don't believe with Murkowski
Speaker 2: and Susan Collins and Mitch McConnell right now, that we
Speaker 2: even have the votes to do much anything good. Rampaul
Speaker 2: is always a wild card. Maybe get fifty plus one
Speaker 2: on some of these.
Speaker 3: The concern is, do we eliminate the filibuster and then
Speaker 3: we're not able to pass anything other than the most
Speaker 3: you know, Oh, we avoid another government shutdown, and then
Speaker 3: Democrats take power and it's just that much easier for
Speaker 3: them to tee off on their much more explicit, ambitious agenda.
Speaker 2: You know, national abortion, national uh, you know, DC statehood.
Speaker 3: Puerto Rico stated a lot of stuff that they've talked
Speaker 3: about packing the courts.
Speaker 5: Well, first of all, they're going to do that when
Speaker 5: they regain power. They purged the two senators that prevented
Speaker 5: that last time. Again it's it's unfortunate they don't respect
Speaker 5: the minority rights in the Senate. So the first step
Speaker 5: would be to lay out the powerful agenda that we
Speaker 5: could pass an altake presidential leadership. And I'm not talking
Speaker 5: about a laundry lipp list of you know, three or
Speaker 5: four dozen items. I'm talking about the three or four
Speaker 5: or five things that we must do, starting with restoring
Speaker 5: dry elections. And that's that's you know, Democrats used COVID,
Speaker 5: they exploited it. They complete contrary to the Baker Carter
Speaker 5: Bipartisan Commission said that APPSTEA balloting is probably the greatest
Speaker 5: threat to election integrity. They you know, doubled the number
Speaker 5: of apps tea ballots they had mail in balloting, which
Speaker 5: is well, I think Biden if he actually got the
Speaker 5: eighty million votes for every gain, I mean, that's a joke.
Speaker 5: So again, we've got we have to restore integratory elections
Speaker 5: or or this this thing's over because the Democrats will cheat.
Speaker 5: They're designing the system to cheat. Uh, and they'll cheat.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I totally agree, you know. So my question, so,
Speaker 2: my big white whale is the voting voting integrity, voter
Speaker 2: voter ID. But it's also uh, immigration, And I don't
Speaker 2: believe that we have the political will or the motivation
Speaker 2: within either the House or the Senate to get real
Speaker 2: immigration work done. And I mean, listen, I'm in favor
Speaker 2: of a of a net zero immigration moratorium. I get it.
Speaker 2: Not everybody's on that wavelength with me, but we cannot
Speaker 2: be flooding our country. Not It's not just illegal immigrants, Senator.
Speaker 2: There is one point two million green cards to legals,
Speaker 2: family reunification, chain migration, visa lottery, diversity lottery, all this
Speaker 2: stuff's gotta go. I mean, we don't need it. We
Speaker 2: got the AI revolution nipping at our heels. We're gonna
Speaker 2: we're not gonna need a lot of these jobs, robotics,
Speaker 2: even for things like farming and different industries that have
Speaker 2: typically been the ones that are loudest in the room
Speaker 2: trying to get more immigrants into the country. We're watching
Speaker 2: the eraser of American culture before our eyes, and you
Speaker 2: think about how many babies different immigrants groups are having
Speaker 2: compared to native born Americans. This thing is a ticking
Speaker 2: time bomb and we're going to lose the country if
Speaker 2: we don't get that done. But we don't have it.
Speaker 2: So if I'm going to do filibuster, nuke the philibus,
Speaker 2: that's what I want. I want those two things. I
Speaker 2: don't know your reaction to that, and if there's anything
Speaker 2: else on your laundry list that you think we need
Speaker 2: to get done.
Speaker 5: Well, the major thing Democrats exploited in our immigration law
Speaker 5: was credible fear, the incredibly low standard versus the standard
Speaker 5: for actual asylum, which is kind of hard to prove.
Speaker 5: And so we've got to get that initial hurdle much
Speaker 5: closer to the general asylum standard. That should be a
Speaker 5: reasonably easy fix, not really complex, of sure, legislatively, but
Speaker 5: again you start with these are the things that have
Speaker 5: to be done, make sure that we've got the votes
Speaker 5: to do it, this philbuster until we have that done. Now.
Speaker 5: Short of that, and Mike Lee's the champion of this,
Speaker 5: we could also stay here in town, stay in legislative
Speaker 5: a session and do a talking philibuster, and you really
Speaker 5: need to talk to Mike Lee. How do you do that?
Speaker 5: At them?
Speaker 2: We had them on Yeah, I like that idea, I
Speaker 2: actually like.
Speaker 5: So we actually discussed that this morning, myself and Rick
Speaker 5: Scott and Mike Lee's we need to start talking to
Speaker 5: our colleagues about that, because right now you don't have
Speaker 5: the votes felim me in the philbuster. That's just true.
Speaker 5: But you know, I think we need to express our
Speaker 5: colleagues and the Republican Conference go okay. Short of that,
Speaker 5: there are things we have to do, and we talked
Speaker 5: to actually starting about saving with start with the Save Act.
Speaker 5: Let's take that basic step to restore that level of integrity. Again,
Speaker 5: I don't want to take over elections. That's a slippery slope,
Speaker 5: but there have to be some basic federal standards for
Speaker 5: elections that states have to follow so that we have
Speaker 5: free and fair elections that you know don't produce illegitimate votes.
Speaker 2: Well, God bless you for that. I endure Senator Les
Speaker 2: because that would be I mean, the question is Dune
Speaker 2: at that point, it would you know, Senator Thune be
Speaker 2: on board with changing the rules and make people actually
Speaker 2: sit and stand on the Senate floor and argue until
Speaker 2: they lose lose steam. I don't know, Uh, you would
Speaker 2: know better. Is there any appetite from uh? Senator Thune, Well.
Speaker 5: We've got to sell it. And I come from a
Speaker 5: manufacturing background. So what I suggest is we need to
Speaker 5: put the Senate. When we do that, on a continuous shift,
Speaker 5: do a scale down staff. I mean, I don't want
Speaker 5: to buse that staff, but I mean it's pretty easy.
Speaker 5: You know, you put three shifts. People come in eight
Speaker 5: hour shifts. You know, we've got to be around available.
Speaker 5: Don't have to be on the floor, but we just
Speaker 5: have to be available in case there's a quorum call
Speaker 5: or whatever. So it's entirely doable. You just have to
Speaker 5: have the will to do it. I always drove my kids,
Speaker 5: not sustain. You know, three courters of the word can't
Speaker 5: is can? It just requires a will pumplish again.
Speaker 2: I can imagine big frustrated is your is your is
Speaker 2: your child? If you kept hitting me with that one.
Speaker 2: But yes, absolutely, I totally agree. We just you just
Speaker 2: need to have the political will. And I just you know,
Speaker 2: I hope for the best froom. Senator Thoon, I just
Speaker 2: I don't hold my breath. Unfortunately, I want to get
Speaker 2: to one other topic here really quick. Yesterday the President
Speaker 2: announced that we are as a big win for MAHA,
Speaker 2: going from seventy two jabs for children and they're moving
Speaker 2: it down more in alignment with European some of the
Speaker 2: other industrialized nations eleven injections. What do you make of this?
Speaker 2: You were huge when it came to fighting the COVID's jabs,
Speaker 2: and so I wanted to get your comments on that, Senator.
Speaker 5: An incredibly important first step. I give you, Bobby Kennedy
Speaker 5: and the President all the credit in the world for
Speaker 5: doing this, and I'm sure it's not popular in the
Speaker 5: medical establishment, who let's face it, they literally do not
Speaker 5: understand that much about vaccines. They're just total, they're safe, effective,
Speaker 5: and then they move forward. Okay, So I would recommend
Speaker 5: your listeners read Vaccines a Man by Aaron Siries. There
Speaker 5: are a lot of good books. Mccullucha's a good one
Speaker 5: out Dissolving Illusions Turtles all the way down. But one
Speaker 5: that brings it all together most powerfully is A Vaccines Men.
Speaker 5: Read that and you'll start uncoming to understand really what
Speaker 5: a reasonable debate is about vaccines and how we should
Speaker 5: approach it. But I'm happy that we're growing more to
Speaker 5: our European model, spacing him out and do real science.
Speaker 5: And that's what takes time, because we have not had true,
Speaker 5: rigorous studies on the safety and effectans of these vaccines.
Speaker 5: We simply have it. And that's what Bobby Kenny's been
Speaker 5: pointing out. That's what Aaron Siri proves in his book.
Speaker 5: There's a much more rational way approaching this. Our approach
Speaker 5: hasn't been rational this day. So again it's a great
Speaker 5: first step I had.
Speaker 2: We had Aaron Siri on the show for a long
Speaker 2: form conversation and it was it was fascinating. I learned
Speaker 2: a ton. He cross examined some of these big pharma
Speaker 2: folks that are supposed to be experts in injections and
Speaker 2: vaccines and in depositions. It gets them to admit that
Speaker 2: there hasn't been studies on these It's just I mean,
Speaker 2: it will blow your mind when you hear the lack
Speaker 2: of evidence of science that back some of these broad
Speaker 2: sweeping mandates for our children.
Speaker 5: It should outrage all of your listeners to the extent
Speaker 5: that we've been lied to by the medical stands from
Speaker 5: our federal health agencies. We're not being lied to anymore
Speaker 5: with the Bobby Kennedy.
Speaker 2: And President God bless you, Senator. We'll have you back
Speaker 2: on again soon. Thank you.
Speaker 5: Take care.
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