WEBVTT - January 6, Five Years Later 0:00:03.520 --> 0:00:06.360 My name is Charlie Kirk. I run the largest pro 0:00:06.400 --> 0:00:09.960 American student organization in the country, fighting for the future 0:00:10.080 --> 0:00:13.360 of our republic. My call is to fight evil and 0:00:13.480 --> 0:00:16.520 to proclaim truth. If the most important thing for you 0:00:16.960 --> 0:00:19.919 is just feeling good, you're gonna end up miserable. But 0:00:20.000 --> 0:00:23.200 if the most important thing is doing good, you'll end 0:00:23.280 --> 0:00:24.480 up purposeful. 0:00:24.720 --> 0:00:26.040 College is a scam, everybody. 0:00:26.079 --> 0:00:27.760 You got to stop sending your kids to college. 0:00:27.800 --> 0:00:28.880 You should get married. 0:00:28.640 --> 0:00:31.160 As young as possible and have as many kids as possible. 0:00:31.240 --> 0:00:33.280 Go start at turning point you would say, college chapter. 0:00:33.479 --> 0:00:35.599 Go start attning point. Yould say high school chapter. Go 0:00:35.640 --> 0:00:37.839 find out how your church can get involved. Sign up 0:00:37.880 --> 0:00:38.880 and become an activist. 0:00:39.000 --> 0:00:39.479 I gave my. 0:00:39.440 --> 0:00:42.280 Life to the Lord in fifth grade, most important decision 0:00:42.640 --> 0:00:44.519 I ever made in my life, and I encourage you 0:00:44.560 --> 0:00:45.080 to do the same. 0:00:45.200 --> 0:00:47.080 Here I am Lord, Use me. 0:00:48.200 --> 0:00:57.400 Buckle up, everybody, Here we go. The Charlie Kirk Show 0:00:57.480 --> 0:01:01.400 is proudly sponsored by Preserved Gold, leading gold and silver 0:01:01.520 --> 0:01:05.480 experts and the only precious metals company I recommend to 0:01:05.560 --> 0:01:07.000 my family, friends and viewers. 0:01:09.560 --> 0:01:13.039 All Right, welcome to The Charlie Kirk Show. It's January sixth, 0:01:13.280 --> 0:01:18.800 fifth anniversary of the fifth anniversary of the New Pearl Harbor. 0:01:19.640 --> 0:01:23.880 Yes, the greatest attack on our democracy, Well, it. 0:01:24.000 --> 0:01:28.839 Was a great attack on patriots that largely did nothing wrong. 0:01:28.959 --> 0:01:33.000 Most of whom were attacked should have probably just been. 0:01:33.000 --> 0:01:35.479 We did the greatest passing, We did the greatest man 0:01:35.560 --> 0:01:37.600 hunt in American history for. 0:01:37.760 --> 0:01:40.280 What could have been settled with a mere trespassing charge. 0:01:40.319 --> 0:01:44.080 And actually, on that note, we here at the Charlie 0:01:44.160 --> 0:01:46.280 Kirk Show are going to pay tribute to some of 0:01:46.280 --> 0:01:49.960 these patriots that are in Washington, d C. Marching to 0:01:50.040 --> 0:01:54.040 raise awareness of injustices that are still unaccounted for. And 0:01:54.160 --> 0:01:57.200 to help us do that is Ben Birkwam Real America's Voice, 0:01:57.280 --> 0:02:01.280 national correspondent and host of Law and Border On America's Voice. Ben, 0:02:01.560 --> 0:02:05.000 Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. Tell us what you're 0:02:05.040 --> 0:02:08.320 doing on the ground and what Yeah, there you are 0:02:08.360 --> 0:02:11.400 walking backwards, beautiful site. Ben, tell us what's going on 0:02:11.440 --> 0:02:11.840 in DC. 0:02:12.639 --> 0:02:14.000 Let me just give you the lay of the land. 0:02:14.080 --> 0:02:17.440 So five years ago today, I was freezing on the Ellipse. 0:02:17.480 --> 0:02:19.519 The Ellipses right over here. We've got the White House 0:02:19.600 --> 0:02:22.280 right off to my left. We've got the Washington Monument 0:02:22.320 --> 0:02:25.000 off to our right. This entire area five years ago 0:02:25.240 --> 0:02:28.520 was packed full of patriotic Americans who loved this country, 0:02:28.600 --> 0:02:32.120 who wanted one simple thing was the truth about the 0:02:32.160 --> 0:02:36.120 twenty twenty elections that the majority at least maga know 0:02:36.320 --> 0:02:39.440 was stolen. And so they came to peacefully assemble. President 0:02:39.440 --> 0:02:42.239 Trump said, peacefully march. And we went down and we 0:02:42.280 --> 0:02:45.799 saw what happened that day. One thing, Andrew. And as 0:02:45.800 --> 0:02:47.600 we're getting up here, we're gonna get to some of 0:02:47.639 --> 0:02:50.079 the the folks that are gonna be marching. There's over 0:02:50.120 --> 0:02:53.840 two hundred January six ers that are here. God bless 0:02:53.840 --> 0:02:55.440 you guys. You should be thankful you live in a 0:02:55.480 --> 0:02:57.919 free country. God bless President Trump. 0:02:58.040 --> 0:02:59.200 Huh, good for you, bet and so. 0:02:59.480 --> 0:03:03.440 But this is the uh, this is the You look 0:03:03.480 --> 0:03:06.079 at what happened, the injustice that happened to these guys, 0:03:06.639 --> 0:03:08.960 and you compare that to where we're at now in 0:03:09.000 --> 0:03:11.760 our country. And the bottom line is the message is 0:03:11.840 --> 0:03:14.800 very simple. We've started it the president. Thank god President 0:03:14.800 --> 0:03:17.040 Trump won the election. Thank god he made the pardons. 0:03:17.320 --> 0:03:20.680 But until the people that orchestrated the real coup against 0:03:20.720 --> 0:03:23.880 President Trump, the four years of a coup against President Trump, 0:03:24.120 --> 0:03:28.040 the insurrection against President Trump, all of the Russia collusion hoax, 0:03:28.120 --> 0:03:31.320 all of that nonsense, the impeachments, everything else. Until they're 0:03:31.320 --> 0:03:34.360 held accountable, the Deep States held accountable, the American people 0:03:34.360 --> 0:03:36.080 aren't gonna rest. And so that's what we're here today. 0:03:36.120 --> 0:03:38.440 We're gonna be talking to some of those two hundred 0:03:38.520 --> 0:03:42.000 January six ers and helping, you know, get their stories out. 0:03:42.000 --> 0:03:44.760 Some of them still struggling, many of them not here today, 0:03:44.800 --> 0:03:48.080 committed suicide, and so it's just, you know, it's a 0:03:48.080 --> 0:03:50.560 bittersweet day, but thank god they're out. 0:03:51.080 --> 0:03:54.360 Yeah, Ben. Two points on this one is people don't 0:03:54.360 --> 0:03:58.280 really know this part of the story behind the pardons 0:03:58.280 --> 0:04:01.160 of the JA sixers. But and that was getting debated 0:04:01.280 --> 0:04:04.640 during the transition. Actually, Charlie was in the room and 0:04:04.680 --> 0:04:08.040 spoke up very vociferously on their behalf and said, pardon 0:04:08.120 --> 0:04:11.440 them all, pardon them all. And that's ultimately what President 0:04:11.440 --> 0:04:14.520 Trump did. So I want people to know that piece 0:04:14.520 --> 0:04:16.440 of the story. And I remember when he told me 0:04:16.480 --> 0:04:19.680 about that, and I said, good for you. At second 0:04:19.720 --> 0:04:22.640 piece here, Ben, Yeah, for the audience, please, you know, 0:04:22.720 --> 0:04:25.000 you talk about the personal stories. I mean a lot 0:04:25.040 --> 0:04:27.680 of these people should have if anything right, they should 0:04:27.720 --> 0:04:30.479 have been maybe a trespassing charge. Instead, there was this 0:04:30.600 --> 0:04:34.920 man hunt across the country. Homes were raided, families disrupted, 0:04:35.040 --> 0:04:37.800 pregnant wives left without their husbands, and then they were 0:04:37.839 --> 0:04:41.479 placed in you know, these jail cells, the gulag inside 0:04:41.560 --> 0:04:44.239 of DC. Tell us more about some of the personal 0:04:44.279 --> 0:04:47.880 stories from these JA six political prisoners that you've heard 0:04:47.960 --> 0:04:48.560 on the ground. 0:04:49.000 --> 0:04:51.360 Well, first to your your first point about Charlie and 0:04:51.839 --> 0:04:55.039 America misses Charlie. Every single day, Charlie was the so 0:04:55.240 --> 0:04:58.800 instrumental not just getting President Trump elected, but really this 0:04:58.800 --> 0:05:02.359 this Maga genesis in the next generation, in Gen Z 0:05:03.200 --> 0:05:06.600 and the next generation. But the seeds that Charlie planted 0:05:06.720 --> 0:05:08.680 were seeing the fruits of those, and I pray we 0:05:08.720 --> 0:05:10.720 continue to see the fruits of those every day. And 0:05:10.760 --> 0:05:13.040 to your point, what Charlie said is the only way 0:05:13.080 --> 0:05:15.800 it could have happened, because to parse through every single 0:05:15.880 --> 0:05:17.839 one of these I think of my friend Coy Griffin, 0:05:18.040 --> 0:05:20.440 who was there that day, never went inside the building. 0:05:20.800 --> 0:05:22.760 He's cowboys for Trump. He went up there, had a 0:05:22.760 --> 0:05:26.360 megaphone and simply went up on the steps to pray 0:05:26.520 --> 0:05:28.720 over the crowd. He got on a megaphone, prayed over 0:05:28.760 --> 0:05:30.880 the crowd, and then he left. He got stuck in 0:05:30.920 --> 0:05:33.800 solitary confinement for two weeks. He wasn't able to see 0:05:33.800 --> 0:05:37.280 an attorney, wasn't able to call a family member, slept 0:05:37.279 --> 0:05:40.120 on a cold floor for praying on a megaphone, and 0:05:40.440 --> 0:05:42.479 their story after story after story like that. As you 0:05:42.480 --> 0:05:46.200 mentioned trespassing, that's the worst that some people did not 0:05:46.279 --> 0:05:48.880 even knowing they were trespassing when it was a fence 0:05:48.960 --> 0:05:51.720 basically like this. It was green, this is metal, it 0:05:51.760 --> 0:05:55.159 was plastic. That was taken down within minutes before I 0:05:55.200 --> 0:05:59.760 even arrived. We marched from this location down to the house. 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:01.560 When I got there, there were no fences up. You 0:06:01.600 --> 0:06:04.000 had no idea that there was any barricade that anyone 0:06:04.040 --> 0:06:06.160 had crossed through. And so a lot of people entered 0:06:06.160 --> 0:06:09.240 that day that space not even realizing that they were 0:06:09.400 --> 0:06:11.680 breaking the law going into a place. Now, obviously we 0:06:11.720 --> 0:06:13.680 saw some of the violence, we saw the attacks. The 0:06:13.760 --> 0:06:16.440 question is how much of that was instigated. We're getting 0:06:16.600 --> 0:06:19.080 We're only getting the tip of the iceberg on how 0:06:19.120 --> 0:06:22.880 involved the federal government was, how many FBI agents were there, 0:06:23.200 --> 0:06:26.839 which ones of those actually instigated anything, How many Antifa 0:06:26.880 --> 0:06:29.000 and BLM members were there. We know John Sullivan. We 0:06:29.000 --> 0:06:32.080 know many other BLM and ANTIFA were there to instigate violence, 0:06:32.320 --> 0:06:34.280 but the bottom line is we don't know. 0:06:34.560 --> 0:06:35.280 We still know. 0:06:35.320 --> 0:06:36.080 Less than we know. 0:06:36.400 --> 0:06:38.599 There's a lot we don't know, and the question is 0:06:38.680 --> 0:06:40.720 will we ever get to the bottom of it. But 0:06:40.800 --> 0:06:44.800 to the stories, it's just crazy. I mean, they weren't given. 0:06:44.960 --> 0:06:47.800 Shane Jenkins, big dude, big burly guy. You look at him, 0:06:47.800 --> 0:06:50.200 you think, man, that's a tough guy. When he talks 0:06:50.200 --> 0:06:53.040 about just sitting in that cell, he was in there 0:06:53.040 --> 0:06:56.680 for over a thousand days. There were months that he 0:06:56.760 --> 0:06:59.160 went where he couldn't brush his teeth, he couldn't clip 0:06:59.200 --> 0:07:03.400 his nails, couldn't no haircuts, I mean, little simple things 0:07:03.440 --> 0:07:06.440 like that, but just treated like animals. And you compare 0:07:06.520 --> 0:07:09.120 the way that January six ers were treated compared to 0:07:09.320 --> 0:07:11.800 BLM and Antifa, who were burning down our country for 0:07:11.840 --> 0:07:15.040 four years, who were actually trying to destroy our country 0:07:15.040 --> 0:07:17.440 from within, who professed that they want to destroy America, 0:07:17.560 --> 0:07:20.400 they want to remake it and their and their their anarchist, 0:07:20.640 --> 0:07:23.720 communist vision. When we're talking about January six ers, we're 0:07:23.720 --> 0:07:25.760 talking about patriots that love this country, that want to 0:07:25.760 --> 0:07:28.960 restore the values of this nation. So huge difference between 0:07:29.320 --> 0:07:32.400 the people that were arrested and they the way they 0:07:32.400 --> 0:07:35.440 were treated from all of the real insurrectionists that got 0:07:35.480 --> 0:07:37.200 away with it. Most of the guys in BLM that 0:07:37.240 --> 0:07:40.240 were burning down their cities never even got charged. Most 0:07:40.240 --> 0:07:42.600 of Antifa never even got charged. And so that that's 0:07:42.640 --> 0:07:44.640 the when you look at it, it's the it's the 0:07:44.680 --> 0:07:45.720 two tiers of justice. 0:07:45.800 --> 0:07:48.760 Then a lot of those BLM rioters got settlements from 0:07:48.800 --> 0:07:52.360 the cities that they that they helped burn down. So crazy, 0:07:52.480 --> 0:07:55.960 So that's so crazy talk about anarcho tyranny. It's the 0:07:56.040 --> 0:07:57.960 lab binding people that try and do things the right 0:07:58.000 --> 0:08:01.680 way that the regime will target and harass. And it's 0:08:01.760 --> 0:08:05.080 the rioters, the law breakers, the criminals, the illegal immigrants 0:08:05.120 --> 0:08:08.280 that get free passed, They get money, they get subsidies, 0:08:08.440 --> 0:08:11.440 and then they get settlements from blue states and blue cities. 0:08:11.760 --> 0:08:14.200 You know, what's an interesting story. You can throw this 0:08:14.320 --> 0:08:17.920 up to twelve reporting from Paul Sperry. New records show 0:08:18.000 --> 0:08:21.560 US Capitol Police Captain Michael Byrd, who fatally shot unarmed 0:08:21.640 --> 0:08:25.200 J six protester Ashley bad of It without warning, has 0:08:25.200 --> 0:08:29.120 been running an unaccredited daycare center with wife Kolesca from 0:08:29.160 --> 0:08:34.320 their Maryland homes since two thousand and eight, that Maryland 0:08:34.360 --> 0:08:36.440 has received over one hundred and ninety million dollars in 0:08:36.679 --> 0:08:38.080 HHS daycare funds. 0:08:38.120 --> 0:08:42.000 Well, if it's unaccredited, is the idea that they're not right? 0:08:43.120 --> 0:08:43.720 Apparently? 0:08:44.040 --> 0:08:45.360 I don't think I'm ever going to get mad at 0:08:45.360 --> 0:08:48.160 someone for running an questions emerged. 0:08:48.559 --> 0:08:51.560 You can throw up to eleven. It's just funny how 0:08:51.600 --> 0:08:54.800 these different storylines bend seem to overlap. So this is 0:08:54.800 --> 0:08:57.720 from town Hall. On January sixth, questions emerged about Michael 0:08:57.720 --> 0:09:02.120 Bird's taxpayer funded Maryland day care. That's out of town Hall. 0:09:02.280 --> 0:09:04.640 So well, think about it's just it's just one of 0:09:04.679 --> 0:09:06.599 those funny, funny uh overlaps. 0:09:06.840 --> 0:09:10.040 Yeah, think about the way uh Michael Bird was treated 0:09:10.640 --> 0:09:15.760 while while BLM was raging across America. He shoots without warning, 0:09:15.800 --> 0:09:20.160 as you mentioned, an unarmed civilian who a veteran of 0:09:20.200 --> 0:09:22.840 our country, who was simply there, you know again, wanting 0:09:22.880 --> 0:09:26.480 answers to a stolen election, shoots and kills her, no accountability. 0:09:26.480 --> 0:09:28.920 In fact, he gets promoted. And and you look at 0:09:28.960 --> 0:09:32.959 how officers were treated obviously, George Floyd and and Chauvin, 0:09:33.040 --> 0:09:36.079 and that whole charade how they were treated, but the 0:09:36.400 --> 0:09:40.600 difference between the left and the the activist response to it. 0:09:41.000 --> 0:09:44.120 The bird became a hero to the left for murdering 0:09:44.160 --> 0:09:47.200 Ashley Babbitt, while other cops who actually were doing their 0:09:47.280 --> 0:09:51.800 jobs against real criminals were demonized and ostracides and lost 0:09:51.840 --> 0:09:55.280 their jobs. Many times, it is it's again, it's it 0:09:55.320 --> 0:09:57.400 all goes back to that double standard. But then you 0:09:57.440 --> 0:09:59.839 also compare that now to what we're finally finding out. 0:10:00.360 --> 0:10:04.000 How did it take this long? Yeah, to get some answers. 0:10:04.280 --> 0:10:07.319 Shout out to Nick Shirley and the work he did, 0:10:07.400 --> 0:10:09.439 but to get some answers on this fraud and shout 0:10:09.440 --> 0:10:11.320 out to Doge. The only real reason that we have 0:10:11.400 --> 0:10:14.040 most of these all of this fraud information about all 0:10:14.080 --> 0:10:16.080 these fake daycare is because of Doge. 0:10:16.120 --> 0:10:17.840 I got a wrap bend. But give our love to 0:10:17.920 --> 0:10:20.280 Mickey Ashley's mom. I saw that she's there with you. 0:10:20.320 --> 0:10:22.680 God bless you, sir, Thanks for putting a spotlight on 0:10:22.720 --> 0:10:23.640 this important story. 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:24.600 God bless you. 0:10:24.640 --> 0:10:25.520 Guys. 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One putting the resource on the 0:11:43.240 --> 0:11:45.880 ground to highlight some of the stories of and listen, 0:11:45.920 --> 0:11:50.240 whatever you think about January sixth, whatever you think about it, 0:11:50.320 --> 0:11:53.880 because yeah, we shouldn't have been, you know, going inside 0:11:53.880 --> 0:11:55.839 a capitol. But I remember, by the way, Blake, I 0:11:55.880 --> 0:11:59.080 remember doing that show live that morning with Charlie from 0:11:59.120 --> 0:12:02.160 Phoenix and being like, please get out, please get out, 0:12:02.160 --> 0:12:03.520 because we knew what they were gonna do. They were 0:12:03.520 --> 0:12:05.920 gonna use this against this pod. It was so obviously bad. 0:12:06.000 --> 0:12:09.600 It was so yes. But regardless of what you know, 0:12:09.920 --> 0:12:12.360 what you think about the particulars on that day, these 0:12:12.360 --> 0:12:15.000 were a lot of really amazing patriots that got caught 0:12:15.080 --> 0:12:17.319 up in a drag net and a man hunt. As 0:12:17.360 --> 0:12:19.959 you said in the first segment, that should have been 0:12:20.160 --> 0:12:22.720 reserved for the likes of Nicholas Maduro. The way that 0:12:22.720 --> 0:12:25.760 they came in, guns ablazing, raiding these people's homes was 0:12:25.800 --> 0:12:30.400 an absolute travesty and a mistrial, a miscarriage of justice. 0:12:31.040 --> 0:12:33.560 And I'm glad that we're celebrating their stories because so 0:12:33.600 --> 0:12:35.559 many of these people had their lives absolutely ruined for 0:12:35.679 --> 0:12:39.680 basically a trespassing charge. Okay, all right, moving on to 0:12:39.760 --> 0:12:42.959 our next story here, this story made me think of you, Blake, 0:12:43.000 --> 0:12:44.680 And that's why we put it on the rundown here, 0:12:44.840 --> 0:12:47.320 and that is The New York Times has come out 0:12:47.360 --> 0:12:50.439 with a whole piece about why Trump and the Trump 0:12:50.480 --> 0:12:57.679 administration has soured on Machado. Now, Machado is the it's 0:12:57.679 --> 0:13:00.560 like the old SNL bit, you gotta so then, so 0:13:00.600 --> 0:13:03.680 there was rumors going around that that Trump had lost 0:13:03.720 --> 0:13:07.560 faith in her because she didn't deny the Nobel Peace Prize, 0:13:07.679 --> 0:13:09.320 and so we should supply. 0:13:09.040 --> 0:13:13.400 Some context to those give us Mashadow was the candidate 0:13:13.480 --> 0:13:17.080 in the most recent Venezuelas or she they evicted her, 0:13:17.080 --> 0:13:17.600 she was going to. 0:13:17.600 --> 0:13:19.600 Be that she couldn't run. She couldn't run, so she 0:13:19.679 --> 0:13:20.800 had sort of a proxy. 0:13:20.960 --> 0:13:24.400 So, yes, exactly her location apparently is unknown right now. 0:13:24.480 --> 0:13:25.760 Yes, she's been under threat. 0:13:26.679 --> 0:13:28.520 And then the other guy was in I think he 0:13:28.559 --> 0:13:32.559 fled the country for Spain. Yes, so, but she was 0:13:32.720 --> 0:13:36.440 the opposition leader, so she was a common figurehead for 0:13:36.520 --> 0:13:41.679 the Venezuelan opposition. And then right after they abducted Maduro, 0:13:41.760 --> 0:13:45.000 it seemed plausible that they would say, okay, install the 0:13:45.000 --> 0:13:48.360 opposition leader. Because we'd been endorsing the Venezuelan position. We said, 0:13:48.360 --> 0:13:49.000 they actually. 0:13:48.760 --> 0:13:53.040 Went and she got the Nobel Peace Prize assumption. 0:13:52.760 --> 0:13:55.880 Assumption, and then she won the Nobel Peace Prize back 0:13:55.920 --> 0:13:59.640 in October instead of Trump, and Trump was just very 0:13:59.679 --> 0:14:04.360 public campaigning for that award in an interesting way, and 0:14:04.720 --> 0:14:06.240 they awarded it to her instead. 0:14:06.360 --> 0:14:08.400 She actually did even the day she received it, she 0:14:08.480 --> 0:14:11.800 dedicated it to Trump. Yes. Uh, but apparently they believed 0:14:11.840 --> 0:14:14.080 she should have a hold on Now, this was a rumor. 0:14:14.120 --> 0:14:17.120 It's unsubstantiated, but it was stated. 0:14:17.240 --> 0:14:18.719 It was reported by the Washington. 0:14:18.760 --> 0:14:21.520 So so they which we know, never lies about anything. 0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:25.480 The Washington Post has So the rumor has been going 0:14:25.520 --> 0:14:29.400 around that Trump soured on Machado because she didn't just 0:14:29.480 --> 0:14:32.240 decline the award and offer it to Trump. 0:14:32.560 --> 0:14:35.040 I thought that that sounded silly, Okay. So there's a 0:14:35.080 --> 0:14:39.080 big piece in the New York Times that is detailing 0:14:39.520 --> 0:14:43.520 why the Trump administration decided not to back Marina Maria 0:14:43.640 --> 0:14:48.680 Karina Machado as Maduro's replacement, and it has nothing to 0:14:48.720 --> 0:14:51.760 do with her winning the Nobel Peace Prize. So I 0:14:51.760 --> 0:14:53.240 don't know if you want to take this or if 0:14:53.280 --> 0:14:53.840 you sure. 0:14:53.880 --> 0:14:57.600 Well, what's probably most interesting about it is, it seems, 0:14:59.120 --> 0:15:01.200 honestly the first a point that of it is the 0:15:01.200 --> 0:15:04.200 most interesting, which is apparently Marco Rubio talked to President 0:15:04.200 --> 0:15:08.040 Trump out of doing it. He said, I'll quote from 0:15:08.280 --> 0:15:11.560 Ryan Savega's summary, if the United States tried to back 0:15:11.600 --> 0:15:15.520 the opposition, it could further destabilize the country and require 0:15:15.560 --> 0:15:18.640 a more robust military presence inside of it. And a 0:15:18.680 --> 0:15:22.560 classified CAA intelligence analysis reflected that view. They were also 0:15:22.720 --> 0:15:29.200 frustrated that they believed her assessments of the situation in 0:15:29.280 --> 0:15:36.640 Venezuela were inaccurate, that she underestimated Maduro's strength, that they 0:15:36.680 --> 0:15:39.920 were skeptical of her ability to seize power. Apparently Rick 0:15:40.000 --> 0:15:43.840 Grinnell would go and have meetings and he was just 0:15:43.960 --> 0:15:44.920 very annoyed with her. 0:15:45.080 --> 0:15:46.920 When he tried to have an in person meeting. The 0:15:47.000 --> 0:15:52.000 US tried to guarantee her security, and apparently she refused 0:15:52.000 --> 0:15:55.000 to do that or it somehow didn't materialize despite those 0:15:55.040 --> 0:15:59.720 promises in those assurances of security, but also that they 0:15:59.760 --> 0:16:03.000 asked for a list of political prisoners. Apparently that didn't happen. 0:16:03.440 --> 0:16:06.800 Over time, the relationship deteriorated to according to people briefed 0:16:06.840 --> 0:16:09.160 on the interactions, Machado and her team ignored the request 0:16:09.240 --> 0:16:13.000 for a list of political prisoners so there was also 0:16:13.080 --> 0:16:16.360 this issue that Machado had been taking a pretty forceful 0:16:16.560 --> 0:16:23.600 stance asking for more sanctions against Maduro backed businesses and products. 0:16:23.720 --> 0:16:25.920 The whole thing is she does and that alienated her 0:16:25.920 --> 0:16:28.000 from the business class. Well, she comes off as just 0:16:28.080 --> 0:16:31.280 generally being very uncompromising. So it has like, for example, 0:16:31.400 --> 0:16:34.880 Machada was upset that Rick Garnell did not denounce Maduro 0:16:34.960 --> 0:16:38.840 as illegitimate, when Grenell believed that that would undercut any 0:16:38.920 --> 0:16:44.160 diplomatic thing, no negotiations with Maduro's government. They were still 0:16:44.160 --> 0:16:46.920 trying to have a conversation, so we were. 0:16:46.800 --> 0:16:49.320 Open to a negotiated exit for Maduro, and she seemed 0:16:49.320 --> 0:16:51.800 to kind of have the attitude of Maduro just has 0:16:51.840 --> 0:16:54.520 to quit, and so it just seems they got very 0:16:54.520 --> 0:16:56.920 fed up with her, which is a very good adventure 0:16:57.080 --> 0:16:58.920 in third world politics. 0:16:58.960 --> 0:17:01.560 I suppose it sounds like she basically there's reason to 0:17:01.600 --> 0:17:04.800 believe that she had alienated many members of Venezuela's like 0:17:04.840 --> 0:17:07.679 sort of elite right, the business class, the civil society. 0:17:08.040 --> 0:17:10.840 Our position is that she's the valid opposition leader and 0:17:10.880 --> 0:17:13.680 that she her proxy won the election. So you kind 0:17:13.680 --> 0:17:15.960 of you believe in elections or you don't, as well, 0:17:16.160 --> 0:17:17.680 and I think the opening point is one of the 0:17:17.720 --> 0:17:21.320 most interesting, which is Rubio arguing if we back the opposition, 0:17:21.680 --> 0:17:25.400 it could destabilize the country. Reading between the lines there, 0:17:25.880 --> 0:17:30.120 that kind of suggests there's there's more support for the regime. 0:17:30.440 --> 0:17:32.400 Seventy third might have otherwise thought. But I mean, even 0:17:32.400 --> 0:17:32.800 if it's. 0:17:32.720 --> 0:17:35.120 Seventy thirty, you don't want to inflame the thirty. I mean, 0:17:35.160 --> 0:17:38.080 that's a landslide by any measure. But you want to 0:17:38.119 --> 0:17:40.679 bring the entire country together as much as possible. 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They're happy to take anybody hostage, whatever 0:19:22.400 --> 0:19:26.200 the cloudal damage, bad economy so that they can win 0:19:26.240 --> 0:19:27.919 in November and retain power. 0:19:28.440 --> 0:19:31.080 Democrats want power, they want to rule over the ashes, 0:19:31.119 --> 0:19:32.560 and they don't care how they get it. That was 0:19:32.600 --> 0:19:35.000 the point made by the great Senator Ron Johnson from 0:19:35.080 --> 0:19:37.760 the state of Wisconsin. He joins us now, Senator, welcome 0:19:37.800 --> 0:19:40.560 back to the show. It's great to see you. I 0:19:40.600 --> 0:19:43.880 happen to be on that same show coming on after you, 0:19:44.119 --> 0:19:47.600 and I was watching the program you were with Charlie Hurd. 0:19:47.640 --> 0:19:50.200 I was on a few segments later and I was 0:19:50.720 --> 0:19:54.119 watching you, going like he's absolutely right, and I text 0:19:54.160 --> 0:19:55.360 your team. I was like, I got to get him 0:19:55.359 --> 0:19:57.840 on to talk about this because what we're seeing in 0:19:58.080 --> 0:20:00.480 so many of these blue states and with the Somali 0:20:00.560 --> 0:20:03.680 fraud ring, is you see that the tentacles of flooding 0:20:03.680 --> 0:20:07.600 the world with Third worlders and illegal immigrants, and they 0:20:08.000 --> 0:20:10.000 we're seeing now that this is not just fraud. This 0:20:10.080 --> 0:20:13.879 could have voting implications. You mentioned the census, maybe build 0:20:13.880 --> 0:20:16.840 out that point of how what this scheme for power 0:20:17.280 --> 0:20:18.159 is really all about. 0:20:18.520 --> 0:20:21.840