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Speaker 2: Hi everybody, I'm Dennis Prager and this is my home.

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Speaker 2: As you probably know by now, Unless this is your

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Speaker 2: first time watching, this is completely unscripted. It's called by

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Speaker 2: fireside chat. Very very rarely I have a guest. So

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Speaker 2: if I have a guest, it's pretty pretty special, and

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Speaker 2: he is pretty special. Charlie Kirk, who is known to

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Speaker 2: many of you. But not to all of you, but

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Speaker 2: you will know him as a result of today. Is

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Speaker 2: my guest, Charlie. It is a joy, a privilege and

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Speaker 2: all the good things like honor to have you.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's an honor to be here, Dennis. I listened

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Speaker 3: to you a most daily and have for years. Thank

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Speaker 3: you have a big impact.

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Speaker 2: On my life. That means a lot to me. Actually,

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Speaker 2: let me tell you. Let me give my way of

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Speaker 2: introducing Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk founded Turning Point USA. Turning

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Speaker 2: Point USA is enormous. It is actually one of the

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Speaker 2: handful of reasons for optimism about America. I'm known for

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Speaker 2: for my word. He has, out of nothing, created this

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Speaker 2: thing called Turning Point USA TP USA. Thousands and thousands

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Speaker 2: will find out the specific numbers in a moment of

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Speaker 2: young people. It's a college correct, it doesn't start in

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Speaker 2: high school? Oh you do so like Prager for us

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Speaker 2: you also, yeah, so they organize events. He organizes events.

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Speaker 2: For example, I just spoke in Florida for his group

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Speaker 2: to four thousand people. Three thousand of them were college

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Speaker 2: and high school students. And it's very moving because we're

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Speaker 2: worried about the next generation of Americans. Look, the truth

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Speaker 2: is you should be worried about my generation of Americans.

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Speaker 2: So this is not new worrying about the young generation.

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Speaker 2: I was worried about my generation when I was twenty

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Speaker 2: one time anyway. So he is combating this terrible nealism,

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Speaker 2: this destructive force that it's permeating our society, not of liberalism,

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Speaker 2: which we can all live with, but of leftism, which

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Speaker 2: believe in. This is when I go to your conferences,

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Speaker 2: I meet a lot of these kids. Obviously not all

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Speaker 2: they radiate good cheer. They're simply happy kids. Yes, I

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Speaker 2: to a left wing conference of thousands of kids and

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Speaker 3: Well, So I think I know why that is, and

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Speaker 3: it's perfectly consistent with what you talk about our students

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Speaker 2: because you're simply you. You represent to me something that

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Speaker 2: Right? And and then you made it? Where where did

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Speaker 3: You could not start turning point Italy. It's just maybe

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Speaker 2: So one day you had an idea, Listen, this my

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Speaker 3: Well, I wanted to go to West Point. That was

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Speaker 2: Say this to you folks who were watching. The reason

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Speaker 2: asked it is I think that there are a lot

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Speaker 2: of young women who have who have been made sad.

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Speaker 2: I know that depression rates on college with college girls

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Speaker 2: is very high, and there's got to be a reason

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Speaker 2: this was not true in my parents' generation. In college.

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Speaker 2: Something has happened something certainly happened with males. Everybody knows

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Speaker 2: is a big male issue, but I think something has

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Speaker 2: happened with females. Yes, have you ever thought on that? Sure?

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Speaker 3: And I'm gonna yes. So the myth of the patriarchy

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Speaker 3: is just that it's one of the great lives of

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Speaker 3: our time that somehow we live in a patriarchal society

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Speaker 3: where a vast majority of incoming college freshmen are women,

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Speaker 3: almost fifty six percent, vast majority of graduates, master's degree recipients,

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Speaker 3: doctorate degree recipients. Women live much longer, women are far

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Speaker 3: less likely to have heart disease, die of depressions, whoicide,

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Speaker 3: all these sorts of things. But you are seeing a

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Speaker 3: problem in the college university amongst depression rates amongst young women.

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Speaker 3: And the solution of the feminists and the gender studies

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Speaker 3: professors are it's because of men, this is happening, right,

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Speaker 3: So that's their conclusion, which it's incorrect. My observation is

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Speaker 3: that some women, not all women, are being forced into

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Speaker 3: very linear, very linear focused on a career pursuit when

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Speaker 3: that's not what they always want. It's almost if they're

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Speaker 3: forcing themselves in.

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Speaker 2: It just occurred to me now and I may do

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Speaker 2: a radio show on this. It just occurred to me.

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Speaker 2: I would like to see statistics, if they're available. What

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Speaker 2: percentage of depressed women in college have a.

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Speaker 3: A significant other?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 3: Yes, And I think that's exactly correct. And so the

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Speaker 3: things that built Western society to function and to grow,

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Speaker 3: monogamous relationships, committing yourself to another person, not over drinking,

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Speaker 3: you know, not participating in binge drinking culture, all those

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Speaker 3: things are frowned upon in college. In fact, the opposite

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Speaker 3: is glorified, where it's hook up culture, where it is

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Speaker 3: binge drinking, you know, drink to your drunk, where it's

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Speaker 3: almost unlimited amount I hate this word, but a limited

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Speaker 3: amount of freedom but no responsibility, and that that will

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Speaker 3: only create unhappy people and unproductive people.

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Speaker 2: That's that. That look that, and you and I resonate

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Speaker 2: to this. That and secularism.

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Speaker 3: Without that, that's the number one thing.

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Speaker 2: I mean, look every pole by totally secular organizations, Pew Gallop.

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Speaker 2: Religious people are happier than secular people.

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Speaker 3: Sure.

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Speaker 2: And so when you combine the complete lack of religious foundation,

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Speaker 2: a godless life, and told career is everything you the

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Speaker 2: last thing you need is a man in your life.

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Speaker 2: It's no wonder that I think a lot of young

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Speaker 2: women are unhappy.

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Speaker 3: Sure, And and the secular side of it is put

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Speaker 3: forth by by people that first they themselves are unhappy,

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Speaker 3: and they almost proselytize the secularization more than religious people

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Speaker 3: put forth their religious beliefs.

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Speaker 2: Oh God, is that ever true? When they say this mantra,

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Speaker 2: it is so wrong? And I'm saying this is a jew. Oh,

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Speaker 2: it's so wrong if Christians try to proselytize, I'm a Jew.

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Speaker 2: I don't care. Why is it wrong? Why is it

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Speaker 2: okay for the left to proselytize, but Christians shouldn't prosely.

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Speaker 3: The atheist proselytize.

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Speaker 2: Everybody prosely. If you believe in something, you proselytize. You

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Speaker 2: can do it obnoxiously or you can do it nicely.

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Speaker 2: But what is wrong? This is what I believe. I'd

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Speaker 2: like you to hear about it. I would love to

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Speaker 2: hear about it well.

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Speaker 3: And I joke around with the atheists. Why does it

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Speaker 3: matter to you?

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's right.

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Speaker 3: I mean, why are you wasting your limited amount of

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Speaker 3: time on this planet? Because you got forty two years left?

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Speaker 3: In seventeen days, and yes, you know, for me, there's

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Speaker 3: a whole afterlife for us. We're good. I mean, so

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Speaker 3: if you want to have this conversation, I actually see

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Speaker 3: some benefit in getting you to.

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Speaker 2: But I apply this everything. I remember. If you know,

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Speaker 2: on the rare occasion I'll say a Mormon would come

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Speaker 2: to my door, I would invite him in. Of course.

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Speaker 3: Well you gotta also, you know, appreciate the commitment they

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Speaker 3: have too.

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Speaker 2: And I totally do. Look, I'm a big fan of more.

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Speaker 3: And so this was one of the one and I've

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Speaker 3: done so much thinking about this when I when I

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Speaker 3: was younger, What were some of the themes that was taught

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Speaker 3: to me? And just beat like a drum in. One

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Speaker 3: of them is the world is a worse place because

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Speaker 3: of Jews and Christians. That was one of the things

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Speaker 3: that I was taught.

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Speaker 2: So and it would be better if we were in

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Speaker 2: a post religious aid, that's right.

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Speaker 3: So it was it's the lies about the Crusades and

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Speaker 3: the evils of you know, Christianity.

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Speaker 2: You know what I say because I and I in

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Speaker 2: this sense, I can say it more easily than you

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Speaker 2: because I'm not Christian. So you know, I say, well,

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Speaker 2: so wait a minute, and I wrote a book on

534
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Speaker 2: anti Semitism which has a big chapter on Christian anti Semitism.

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Speaker 2: I know all about it all. I taught courses on

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Speaker 2: Jewish history at college on the college level. Nevertheless, the

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Speaker 2: fact that you have to go back to the fifteenth century,

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Speaker 2: you know, hello, that's a long time ago. That's correct.

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Speaker 2: The Spanish Inquisition that was in fourteen ninety two. Okay,

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Speaker 2: So the Christian record since fifteen hundred isn't so bad

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Speaker 2: if you have to go back to fourteen ninety two.

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Speaker 2: And wait a minute, and who would bolished slavery? Well?

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Speaker 3: And thetheists who formed America, Yes, religious refugees from Europe

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Speaker 3: that wanted to form their own colonies around specific forms

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Speaker 3: of Christianity.

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Speaker 2: That is correct.

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Speaker 3: And so here's the question that I asked with Israel

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Speaker 3: about Israel, about America, about religion. Is the world a

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Speaker 3: better place because of America? Is the better a better

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Speaker 3: Is the world a better place because of Israel?

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Speaker 2: I asked Howard's in that question? Howard's in is the

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Speaker 2: is the He's now passed away?

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Speaker 3: Howard most committed anti Americans?

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Speaker 2: Well, he wrote the standard tragically, the standard history.

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Speaker 3: Tech the Untold History, or something the popular history.

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Speaker 2: I think it's of the United States. And what I

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Speaker 2: call it is it's a practologists view of America. That's

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Speaker 2: what I That's how I describe his book. But I

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Speaker 2: had him on my show, and I never I never

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Speaker 2: dump on guests, no matter how much I can stand

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Speaker 2: their views, and I treated him perfectly, kindly. All I

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Speaker 2: wanted was to get is I asked him that question,

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Speaker 2: would the world have been better had there never been

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Speaker 2: a United States? And he was agnostic.

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Speaker 3: He's it's stunning.

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Speaker 2: To it's stunning.

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Speaker 3: It is stunning, but it's also it takes effort to

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Speaker 3: come to that conclusion. And it takes an unsettled and

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Speaker 3: unsettled soul to come to that conclusion in order to

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Speaker 3: say that. And I don't want to virtue signal to him,

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Speaker 3: but he must have been in a very unhappy place

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Speaker 3: in his life.

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Speaker 2: Do you go to college campuses or are you? Are

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Speaker 2: you almost always greeted by protesters?

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Speaker 3: Initially? Yes, But I'm seeing a change, Dennis, you are, Yes,

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Speaker 3: that's great, more curiosity and open mindedness. Look, there's still

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Speaker 3: the protesters that sit up.

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Speaker 2: Right, But you know what, I believe you because I

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Speaker 2: think a lot of students are thinking, what's so bad

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Speaker 2: about these people? Let me find out.

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Speaker 3: That's right, that's correct. Let me see it for myself.

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Speaker 3: And there's a hilarious video of one of these street

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Speaker 3: journalists that did. We spoke at cal State Long Beach

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Speaker 3: and if you want to lose hope for America, spend

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Speaker 3: time in California universities. Let me just put it that way.

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Speaker 3: You had to gain hope for America, spend time anywhere else.

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Speaker 3: So they Candace Owens and I and Candas is a

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Speaker 3: total superstar. As you will know, we were speaking at

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Speaker 3: cal State Long Beach and we had a sold out

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Speaker 3: crowd in the university refused to give us a bigger auditorium.

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Speaker 3: Of course, we had four hundred people inside, and they

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Speaker 3: had this protest outside and saying that, you know, the

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Speaker 3: white supremacists are inside. And one of these street journalists

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Speaker 3: went around, they said, hey, so you think Candice Owens

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Speaker 3: is a white supremacist? Absolutely, one hundred percent, just for

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Speaker 3: the record. But then they said, and Charlie Kirk's white supremacist? Yes,

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Speaker 3: what does he say? That's what it rooted in white supremacy,

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Speaker 3: just all of it, you know, And they well to show.

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Speaker 2: You'll love this. And I don't know if you know

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Speaker 2: this one when I was and I think it was

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Speaker 2: was university.

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Speaker 3: That's correct. Yes, that was a turning point USA event.

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Speaker 3: So why socialism makes people selfish?

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Speaker 2: Yes, they were twelve hundred people and four hundred in

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Speaker 2: another room. It was. It was a great success. And

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Speaker 2: by the way, you could folks should watch them.

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Speaker 3: It's a great it's a wonderful to speak.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. So the usual every campus I go to

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Speaker 2: there are attacks on me prior to my coming from

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Speaker 2: left wing professors or students. So this one included the

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Speaker 2: usual how could we spend student funds or whatever it is? Oh,

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Speaker 2: that was Colorado State. Why are we bringing in Dennis Prager?

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Speaker 2: You know who is a homophobic, Islamophobic, all the phobias, okay,

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Speaker 2: and anti Semitic? Well that one, did you see that one?

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Speaker 3: Of course?

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Speaker 2: That was worth everything.

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Speaker 3: He wrote a book that's been published multiple times.

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Speaker 2: Not only that you are Jewish, yes, and I'm pro

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Speaker 2: Jewish Jewish, which is not always the case in Jewish.

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Speaker 2: I'm practicing jew I fought antisemitism my whole life and

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Speaker 2: so why so then why did this woman write anti Semitic?

622
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Speaker 3: Because they get away with it.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and because they just have a list. I am

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Speaker 2: as homophobic, in Islamophobic and racist and that and all

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Speaker 2: that as I am anti Semitic. All of it is

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Speaker 2: a lie. It's the whole thing is a lot that's right,

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Speaker 2: But it doesn't matter if you throw it out enough,

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Speaker 2: the assumption it will.

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Speaker 3: Stick without a doubt, and and it's it's it's corrosive.

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Speaker 3: And the university teaches students and they weaponize them to

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Speaker 3: become activists that attack people's character, not challenges ideas. And

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Speaker 3: so the academy was originally built to actually culture people

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Speaker 3: away from the more tribal type thinking that the academy

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Speaker 3: was built originally and first of all to teach religion.

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Speaker 3: That's actually the original charter of the American College. But

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Speaker 3: secondly it was if you actually look at the reason

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Speaker 3: why Harvard and Princeton and Yale, the original universities of

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Speaker 3: America's founding John Hopkins, were formed and advanced, it was

639
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Speaker 3: people need to learn deeper things, ways to think, and

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Speaker 3: to be able to communicate. Now it's done the exact composite, correct,

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Speaker 3: Isn't that it's gone absolutely full circle back to the tribal.

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Speaker 2: And the assumption was that you are here to learn truth,

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Speaker 2: irrespective of where the chips may fall. Yes, you are

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Speaker 2: here to learn the best music, the best idea is

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Speaker 2: the best literature. But not now.

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Speaker 3: I love I love what you say about Bach and

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Speaker 3: the Tokyo Philharmonic and the Indonesian music and for the

648
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Speaker 3: people that know the time, about the New York Times

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Speaker 3: music critic and this is someone should write a book

650
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Speaker 3: on this. And Jordan Peterson talked about it a little bit.

651
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Speaker 3: But is the left hates anyone could be better at

652
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Speaker 3: anything than anyone else, And if anyone is is because

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Speaker 3: they exploited themselves to get there. How is Bach? Who

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Speaker 3: did he exploit by becoming the best composer of all time? Like,

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Speaker 3: well as you well know, I.

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Speaker 2: Mean the look, it's all backwards. I'm reading Stephen Pinker

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Speaker 2: because I always like to read people I different with.

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Speaker 2: He's the psychologist at the Harvard who's an atheist, but

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Speaker 2: he's a good He also attacks the left. He's rare

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Speaker 2: because he's a liberal. He's not a leftist, but of

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Speaker 2: course he uh he So he has a whole chapter

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Speaker 2: on don't be pessimistic, things are getting better and then

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Speaker 2: he has a list of all of the diseases that

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Speaker 2: we've conquered in the last one hundred years. And when

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Speaker 2: he went through the list, I realized every single one

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Speaker 2: is a European or American name. Every single disease that

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Speaker 2: has been conquered, it has been in your Now, does

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Speaker 2: that mean white supremacy? That's idiotic. Hitler was white, and

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Speaker 2: he was he was the garbage of humanity. Stalin was white.

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Speaker 2: He was garbage. It has nothing to do with white.

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Speaker 2: It has to do with values. Yes, values produced Bach,

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Speaker 2: values produced insulin and a Salk vaccine, and that's what matters.

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Speaker 3: Well, and values created the peanut by George Washington Carver.

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Speaker 3: I mean had nothing to do with had nothing to

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Speaker 3: do with race, has everything to do with ideas and

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Speaker 3: values and character.

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Speaker 2: So we're attacked for saying what we're saying now. Of

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Speaker 2: course that is what is so amazing. It's the anti

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Speaker 2: intel lectual center the university.

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Speaker 3: Well, without a doubt, yes, and there they've become a place,

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Speaker 3: and I say, it's commonly where they want everyone to

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Speaker 3: look different but think the same.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's right. Right, diversity is only looks.

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Speaker 3: Only racial diversities. That's right. And and that that should

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Speaker 3: be a point of optimism. You asked me earlier, why

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Speaker 3: are you optimistic? That brings me optimism? If the left

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Speaker 3: trying to stop us from talking shows us that when

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Speaker 3: we do talk, we win, So all we have to

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Speaker 3: do is just talk more, to talk to more people.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's what TPUSA.

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Speaker 3: And that that's that gives me optimism.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's good. I'm happy to hear this. By the way,

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Speaker 2: how's our timing here? Because this is too much fun? Sorry, oh,

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Speaker 2: we've already gone over your fun.

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Speaker 3: We can keep going.

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Speaker 2: I know we can't, but we could. I know what

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Speaker 2: you mean. Well, because it's better that they should want more.

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Speaker 2: If you want more, Charlie Kirk tell tell everybody I

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Speaker 2: I I was blown away. And that's a reason for optimism.

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Speaker 2: You're the third most tweeted thinker type in the country.

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Speaker 2: How what is the order the.

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Speaker 3: President Alexandria Casio Cortes.

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Speaker 2: Well, hold on, that's that's a little tough to hear.

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Speaker 3: I have and then and then and then me. But

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Speaker 3: so but if so the president. So here's the optimism

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Speaker 3: is that you've got a Casio Cortes who's a sitting

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Speaker 3: member of Congress with unlimited amount of positive media coverage,

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Speaker 3: and then me just a couple of varial points within

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Speaker 3: her with nothing but negative media coverage and not a

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Speaker 3: sitting member of Congress in five years younger. That should

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Speaker 3: give you optimism. I mean, she has received billions of

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Speaker 3: dollars earned media, of course, and I'm still within a

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Speaker 3: couple margin points of Twitter engagement. So Axios did an

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Speaker 3: objective analysis of who has the most engaged Twitter in

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Speaker 3: American politics, and so the president was way up there

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Speaker 3: than Acazio Cortez and I was right there, even above

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Speaker 3: the New York Times, and people like even Don Junior

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Speaker 3: and Sean Hannity were mentioned. There were much much bigger

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Speaker 3: and so kind of I'm happy to hear it shows

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Speaker 3: that as Cortez.

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Speaker 2: And is America's success.

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Speaker 3: Same to you in Prager University.

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Speaker 2: God bless you, Thank you, Dennis, Charlie Kirk. He's special.

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Speaker 2: Every generation throws out these special people. He's one of them.

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Speaker 2: I'm Dennis Prager. This is a special addition, as it were,

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Speaker 2: of my fireside chat. I'll see you next week. Thank

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