WEBVTT - Tulsi Exposes Biolabs + AMA 270

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Charlie kirk I run the largest pro

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<v Speaker 2>All Right, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. It's Friday,

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<v Speaker 2>June twelfth. We're here at the y Reefi Studios. Blake

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<v Speaker 2>is still on assignment, so we're holding it down here

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<v Speaker 2>in Phoenix, Arizona. And there is much to discuss, namely,

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<v Speaker 2>do we have a piece deal or not. So a

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<v Speaker 2>lot has been going back and forth in the news

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<v Speaker 2>media overseas, a lot of leaks coming out of the

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<v Speaker 2>Middle East. President Trump is none too pleased. But let's

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<v Speaker 2>get the basic facts about where we were supposed to

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<v Speaker 2>be at, where we thought we were at as of yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go ahead and play cut twenty four.

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<v Speaker 4>That has Iran committed to not pursuing an yplear weapon

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<v Speaker 4>or will there be more negotiations on that downloo have

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<v Speaker 4>a nuclear weapon?

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<v Speaker 5>They've agreed to that there will be none, which is

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<v Speaker 5>the whole reason, which is a big part of the reason.

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<v Speaker 6>You can agree they.

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<v Speaker 5>Will not only not have they will not purchase develop

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<v Speaker 5>in any way, any shape, in any way, shape or

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<v Speaker 5>form a nuclear weapon.

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<v Speaker 7>They will not have a nuclear weapon.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, So that's the big get obviously, But then

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<v Speaker 2>the second big get is the straight of horn Moose.

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<v Speaker 2>So again, this deal has been going on and being

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<v Speaker 2>negotiated for weeks now. I was able to participate in

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<v Speaker 2>sort of a high level call with some members of

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<v Speaker 2>the press a few weeks ago. I'm told there was

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<v Speaker 2>another one this morning. I was not on it, but

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<v Speaker 2>I'm getting updates as we go, calling my sources, and

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<v Speaker 2>they said it was gonna take weeks. At that point,

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<v Speaker 2>they basically said, you know, it's carrier pigeons that you

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<v Speaker 2>got to get into this Supreme Leader because they got

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<v Speaker 2>them hidden in a bunker somewhere, you know, no digital connection.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, So let's look at twenty five here, this

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<v Speaker 2>is another piece of it, the straight and the blockade,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five and the and when the steel is signed,

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<v Speaker 2>is the United States going to immediately lift the blockade?

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, that part of the deal. And oil prices dropping

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<v Speaker 5>like a rock.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's the piece there. Oil price is dropping like

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<v Speaker 2>a rock. Okay, next piece, just so we get it

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<v Speaker 2>all from the present, straight from the president's mouth is himself,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty six just.

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<v Speaker 5>Made a great settlement of the war with the ren

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<v Speaker 5>and we're going to be uh, subject to finalization of documents.

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<v Speaker 5>We should get done over the next few days, probably

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<v Speaker 5>have his signing, maybe in Europe, and.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a great thing, all right. So that was yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>Then over the middle of the night, there was leaks

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<v Speaker 2>coming out of the Middle East talking about maybe cash

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<v Speaker 2>being involved, talking about an immediate release of sanctions, easing

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<v Speaker 2>of sanctions. Now the White House President Trump. Jadvans out

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<v Speaker 2>in full force pushing back against that. President Trump calling

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<v Speaker 2>these people and these leakers dishonorable, some of the negotiators dishonorable.

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<v Speaker 2>Throw up this truth social that just came out. He said,

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<v Speaker 2>the terms of that Iran leaked out to the fake

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<v Speaker 2>news have nothing to do with the terms that were

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<v Speaker 2>agreed to in writing. What they said, including their weak

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<v Speaker 2>empathetic statement on having a deal, bears no relation to

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<v Speaker 2>the truth. Very dishonorable people to deal with with them.

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<v Speaker 2>There is no such thing as dealing in good faith. Amazing. Also,

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<v Speaker 2>the total they're totally rebuffed drone attack last night against

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<v Speaker 2>Indian ships leaving the hormone strait is totally unacceptable. They

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<v Speaker 2>better get their act together and fast. Jd Vance continues on.

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<v Speaker 2>He said, I'm seeing a lot of fake information about

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<v Speaker 2>a potential deal to reopen the strait and end Iran's

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<v Speaker 2>nuclear program. First, the Iranians are not receiving any cash,

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<v Speaker 2>and that was clear a couple of weeks ago that

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<v Speaker 2>was never going to be on the table. And no

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<v Speaker 2>funds are being released for simply signing a deal or

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<v Speaker 2>attending a meeting. The deal is structured to ensure that

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<v Speaker 2>the US and its allies concerns are prioritized, and that

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<v Speaker 2>if the Islamic Republic of Iran meets its obligations, then

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<v Speaker 2>economic benefits will float to them and to the entire region.

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<v Speaker 2>This deal has the potential to remake the region and

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<v Speaker 2>lead to lasting peace. I've noticed a couple of bizarre

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<v Speaker 2>things in the reporting over the last few hours. First,

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<v Speaker 2>people who rightly said Donald Trump was a historic president

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<v Speaker 2>a month ago now criticized he's criticizing a deal based

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<v Speaker 2>on unconfirmed media reports. Second, people who say you can't

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<v Speaker 2>trust a word said by the IRGC, who apparently believe

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<v Speaker 2>anonymously sore social media posts. It's a very good point.

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<v Speaker 2>The president is going to get us a good outcome

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<v Speaker 2>one way or another, all right. So I was trying

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<v Speaker 2>to get a readout of this call this morning, kind

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<v Speaker 2>of given update from a very high place source within

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<v Speaker 2>the Admin. There was a few that were apparently accurate.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is a tweet from Fox News who apparently

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<v Speaker 2>somebody from Fox was on this call, this briefing call

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<v Speaker 2>this morning, says a White House official says iron has

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<v Speaker 2>agreed to a ormance based deal that would require major

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<v Speaker 2>concessions before receiving any sanctions relief. According to the official,

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<v Speaker 2>Iran's nuclear material would be destroyed and removed, its nuclear

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<v Speaker 2>program dismantled, and none of its money released until it

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<v Speaker 2>fulfills its commitments. And that is a repeat beat. I

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<v Speaker 2>can tell you that when I've called in asked for

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<v Speaker 2>details updates on how this was progressing, that seems to

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<v Speaker 2>be a repeat beat. That there will not release any

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<v Speaker 2>of the money, meaning you know, the sanctions, easing of

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<v Speaker 2>the sanctions. They're not going to get oil shipments out

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<v Speaker 2>and money in until they fulfill its commitments. Okay. The

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<v Speaker 2>official also said that straight of Hormoose would remain open

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<v Speaker 2>and Iran would agree to stop funding terrorist groups. So

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<v Speaker 2>you got nuclear the straight of her moves and stop

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<v Speaker 2>funding terrorist groups. Okay, There's now there's another. There's another one.

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<v Speaker 2>This one hear from Kaylee mcananney. I'm assuming she must

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<v Speaker 2>have been on this briefing call. Do we have a

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<v Speaker 2>deal yet? No, but we are very close. The official

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<v Speaker 2>estimates of the deal seventy five percent. They're not one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred percent yet. While this is tentative, we feel confident

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<v Speaker 2>that we will be signing this in the next few days.

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<v Speaker 2>We have agreed to the concept and the details, but

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<v Speaker 2>the deal is not done until we sign it. What

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<v Speaker 2>is in the deal, the highly enriched geranium will be destroyed.

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<v Speaker 2>The deal accomplishes that, so very very clear. That was

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<v Speaker 2>the president's main objective. You can go back and roll

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<v Speaker 2>the tapes from ten twenty years ago. This is the

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<v Speaker 2>main objective he was looking to get accomplished with these strikes.

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<v Speaker 2>You can love it, you can hate it, but this

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<v Speaker 2>was always the main objective. This deal gets is done.

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<v Speaker 2>There is a long term number. Two. There's a long

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<v Speaker 2>term commitment that Iran cannot procure a nuclear weapon. Three.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a meaningful inspection process. I'm hearing that it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be international inspectors as well as US inspectors

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<v Speaker 2>for Iran cannot fund terrorism as we work toward broader

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<v Speaker 2>peace in the Middle East. That's a big, big piece here,

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<v Speaker 2>or you're seeing in Lebanon, what you're seeing in with

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<v Speaker 2>the houtis all this, these proxies that are sowing chaos

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<v Speaker 2>and violence across the room. If you're gonna have a

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<v Speaker 2>stable Middle East, you gotta deal with that too, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>the horror moved straight will be open. Five assets are

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<v Speaker 2>not immediately and Frozen Iron must meet its commitments first. Okay. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>let me just say I know there is a certain

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<v Speaker 2>contingent out there, the hardliners, the warhawks, that want to

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<v Speaker 2>see a full regime change. Okay, if you want, if

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<v Speaker 2>you want to do that, you gotta put boots on

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<v Speaker 2>the ground. Okay. President Trump has said publicly he doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>think the country has the appetite of the patients for that.

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<v Speaker 2>He's right. Just go talk to some of our turning

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<v Speaker 2>points students. They'll tell you even Trump voters are are

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<v Speaker 2>done with this. Okay. They want the deal. They want peace. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>So you get what you can get and you end this.

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<v Speaker 2>Oil prices drop like a rock. You have peace, stability.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not funding proxies at least, that's the deal. By

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<v Speaker 2>the way, you can you can always put sanctions back

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<v Speaker 2>on if they nig on any of these points. Main

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<v Speaker 2>point is, though you get that nuclear you get an

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<v Speaker 2>inspection regime that's actually got a backbone and action has

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<v Speaker 2>the threat of force behind it. That's a good thing.

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<v Speaker 2>We want peace. You gotta understand. And we say it

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<v Speaker 2>again and again and again. Maybe you guys are annoyed

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<v Speaker 2>to hearing it at this point, but you can always

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<v Speaker 2>choose when to start a war, which you can't choose

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<v Speaker 2>when to end it. So sometimes you're making lemonade out

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<v Speaker 2>of lemons here. I'm not saying that's what's happened. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just saying, Yeah, you want regime change, you want full

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<v Speaker 2>you want a regime that's actually acting a good faith

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<v Speaker 2>that was never gonna happen as long as the IRGC

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<v Speaker 2>and the IETOL and all these people remain in place.

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<v Speaker 2>But that doesn't have to be our job to get

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<v Speaker 2>rid of them. Okay. What we want is an end

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<v Speaker 2>in nuclear and we want stability in the region. This

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<v Speaker 2>is a step by step process that nothing's getting released immediately.

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<v Speaker 2>They gotta make good they gotta show good faith steps

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<v Speaker 2>in the right direction. It's a home run if they

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<v Speaker 2>can get it. Okay, let's pray for peace. That's the goal.

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<v Speaker 2>Pray for peace. All right, we got to turn our

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<v Speaker 2>attention to the Tulsi bombshell. Listen. I think Toulsi's great.

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<v Speaker 2>I think she's a great patriot. Charlie was super close

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<v Speaker 2>to her and she's you know, she's been wonderful to

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<v Speaker 2>me as well, and got to really know her during

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<v Speaker 2>the campaign. Her and her husband a great people. And

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<v Speaker 2>here's what I will tell you, she's going out with

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<v Speaker 2>a bang. You know. She unfortunately her husband did have

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<v Speaker 2>a really severe acute form of cancer that they caught.

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<v Speaker 2>Does seem like they caught it in time. So we're

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<v Speaker 2>praying for them. We're continue to pray for them. But

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<v Speaker 2>today she released a video on social media that was

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<v Speaker 2>pretty shocking stuff. And I love this that she's not

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<v Speaker 2>just you know, fading off into the sunset. She's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I've been working on stuff and I'm going to get

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<v Speaker 2>it out. I'm get I'm gonna get this out. So

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<v Speaker 2>here we go. It' stop twenty one.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm releasing new evidence of long standing US government funding

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<v Speaker 7>of more than one hundred and twenty bio labs in

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<v Speaker 7>over thirty countries.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 7>These biolabs include labs in places like Ukraine, which could

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<v Speaker 7>be at risk of compromise due to the ongoing Russia

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<v Speaker 7>Ukraine War. In fact, the intelligence community had previously warned

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<v Speaker 7>that a US funded biolab in Ukraine likely housed dangerous

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<v Speaker 7>pathogens and remained vulnerable to long standing threats of Russian attack, seizure,

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<v Speaker 7>or damage. Now, until now, evidence regarding the full existence

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<v Speaker 7>and funding of these laboratories had been knowingly withheld from you,

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<v Speaker 7>the American people. Many of these US government funded biolabs

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<v Speaker 7>are currently or have previously engaged in research using hazardous

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<v Speaker 7>and highly contagious pathogens and in some cases included dangerous

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<v Speaker 7>gain of function research with very little visibility or oversight.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, gain of fauci. That's what we call it, gain

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<v Speaker 2>of function. So we were told that this never happened.

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<v Speaker 2>We were told it didn't happen in Wuhan. We were

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<v Speaker 2>told these biolabs were a bunch of big conspiracy theories.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember covering this with Charlie when this story first

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<v Speaker 2>broke in twenty twenty two and watching the social media

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<v Speaker 2>posts and the clips get taken down because they were disinformation.

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<v Speaker 2>Tulci says it's all true, and that some of these

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<v Speaker 2>labs funded by the US taxpayer. Internationally were doing gain

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<v Speaker 2>of function. Why is gain of function bad? Let's just

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<v Speaker 2>remember for a second, this is how we got here.

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<v Speaker 2>This is how we got the pandemic. All of the

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<v Speaker 2>minds that got broke because of COVID, that was gain

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<v Speaker 2>of function. FAUCI was funding it. Fauci was lying to

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<v Speaker 2>us about it. That's why we say Fauci lied. People died,

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<v Speaker 2>They told us this was not true. Big giant conspiracy theory.

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<v Speaker 2>Tulsi continues twenty two.

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<v Speaker 7>Now, President Trump clearly understands the serious threat dangerous gain

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<v Speaker 7>of function research poses to the American people, and this

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<v Speaker 7>is why he took decisive action over a year ago.

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<v Speaker 7>On May twenty fifth, twenty twenty five, he signed an

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<v Speaker 7>executive order to end at federal funding of gain of

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<v Speaker 7>function research around the world world Here at ODI and I,

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<v Speaker 7>I issued new guidance to the intelligence community directing increased

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<v Speaker 7>collection on these laboratories and facilities overseas. And we're already

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<v Speaker 7>seeing the results of this increased collection. We're learning new details,

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<v Speaker 7>for example, on clinical trials that are underway at these

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<v Speaker 7>facilities and that are raising significant ethical, financial, and security

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<v Speaker 7>concerns regarding the supposed public health initiatives and US national security.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, and he's throw this up from the Guardian. You guys,

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<v Speaker 2>this is this is too good. We're our teams pulling

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<v Speaker 2>clips from this era to show just how weaponized this

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<v Speaker 2>story had been used against US, how Ukrainian bioweapons lab

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<v Speaker 2>myth went from QAnon fringe to Fox News. Oh okay,

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<v Speaker 2>So maybe this is this why the fake news tried

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<v Speaker 2>to paint Tulci Gabbart as a Russian agent? Is this why?

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<v Speaker 2>Is this why they tried to push her up? She

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<v Speaker 2>continues twenty three. This is important now.

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<v Speaker 7>Despite the obvious potential for catastrophic global impact that research

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<v Speaker 7>on dangerous pathogens and biolabs can have, politicians and so

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<v Speaker 7>called health professionals like doctor Fauci, as well as entities

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<v Speaker 7>within the Biden administration's National security team, lied repeatedly to

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<v Speaker 7>the American people about the existence of US funded and

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<v Speaker 7>supported biolabs. Not only did they lie, they threatened those

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<v Speaker 7>who attempted to expose the truth. So this release today

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<v Speaker 7>breaks new ground as the information surrounding the existence, history, locations,

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<v Speaker 7>and funding of these US funded biolabs has been intentionally

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<v Speaker 7>covered up by very powerful people. Odie and I will

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<v Speaker 7>continue working closely with partners across the US government to

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<v Speaker 7>identify exactly where these labs are and what pathogens they can.

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<v Speaker 2>She mentioned doctor fauci Us funding. It's been obscured from

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<v Speaker 2>the American public. And this is interesting because show this

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<v Speaker 2>New York Times clip from the from the headline from

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<v Speaker 2>that era. Theory about US funded bioweapons labs in Ukraine

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<v Speaker 2>is unfound, it says the New York Times. Oh okay,

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<v Speaker 2>and I remember this clip. This. I'll never forget this

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<v Speaker 2>clip because everybody was saying it was a conspiracy. There

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't real, wasn't real. And then then Senator Marco Rubio

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<v Speaker 2>asked Victoria Neulan, who's a real snake by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>about it? And everybody was like, whoa, it is real.

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<v Speaker 8>Twenty eight Does Ukraine have chemical or biological weapons?

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<v Speaker 9>Uh?

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<v Speaker 10>Ukraine has a biological research facilities, which in fact, we

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<v Speaker 10>are now quite concerned Russian troops Russian forces may be

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<v Speaker 10>seeking to gain of. So we are working with the

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<v Speaker 10>Ukrainians on how they can prevent any of those research

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<v Speaker 10>materials from falling into the hands of Russian forces should they.

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<v Speaker 2>Approach Biden Pardons Fauci million the January sixth panel, a

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<v Speaker 2>full and unconditional pardon for doctor Fauci. Makes you wonder

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<v Speaker 2>why Charlie used to talk a lot about Angel Studios

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<v Speaker 2>and what they were building, and as you know, I've

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<v Speaker 2>been a longtime fan of it for the same reason.

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<v Speaker 2>So I want to share some of my favorite films

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<v Speaker 2>and shows on Angel, and I put them all into

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<v Speaker 2>one easy to use watch list. This is content that's

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<v Speaker 2>actually worth your time, not just noise or recycled talking points,

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<v Speaker 2>but stories that go a level deeper and ask better questions.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what stands out about Angel to me. They're willing

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<v Speaker 2>to put out films and documentaries that don't just follow

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<v Speaker 2>the usual script, especially when it comes to politics, culture,

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<v Speaker 2>and the bigger conversations you and I should be having.

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<v Speaker 2>So on my watch list you'll find picks that lean

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<v Speaker 2>into those topics, but there are also solid options for

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<v Speaker 2>family or just something meaningful to watch at the end

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<v Speaker 2>of a stressful day. If you want to check it out,

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<v Speaker 2>go to Angel dot com slash Charlie and take a

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<v Speaker 2>look at the watch list I put together. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>real quick, here we're gonna bring in doctor Paul Moreno

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<v Speaker 2>just a second, we're gonna be talking about history, Carmelo, Anthony,

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<v Speaker 2>all all that crazy stuff. Uh, you know, I'm just looking.

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<v Speaker 2>The spacexipo happened today, as many of many of you know,

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<v Speaker 2>four thousand, four hundred current former employees are projected to

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<v Speaker 2>become brand new millionaires today. Then the stock is like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I think at iPod at one thirty five,

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<v Speaker 2>which a lot of people were saying, maybe that's too high,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's already at like one sixty. So the market

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<v Speaker 2>will tell you where it's gonna go. Get this, four

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<v Speaker 2>hundred of those people are expected to reach one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>million dollar net worth and there's gonna be like four

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<v Speaker 2>or five new billionaires here it goes. So congrats to

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<v Speaker 2>the SpaceX cafeteria workers who became millionaires today. That's a

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<v Speaker 2>big story, really fun stuff. All right, Without further ado,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to bring in our next guest, and that

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<v Speaker 2>is doctor Paul Moreno from Hillsdale College, William and Bernice

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<v Speaker 2>Grucock Chair in Constitutional History and the Professor of History,

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<v Speaker 2>Doctor Marina Welcome to the Charlie Kirkshow. It's good to

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<v Speaker 2>see you. I know you're traveling, so thanks for making

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<v Speaker 2>the time.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh thanks very much. Great to be on the show.

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<v Speaker 2>So we have been having this ongoing conversation about this

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<v Speaker 2>fallout from the Austin Metcalf Carmelo Anthony trial, which is

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<v Speaker 2>a total tragedy. A young man lost his life who

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<v Speaker 2>shouldn't have lost his life. But I want you to

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<v Speaker 2>hear some of the reactions from some of the folks

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<v Speaker 2>in the around the country saying that this is some

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<v Speaker 2>big injustice and it strikes at the very heart of

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<v Speaker 2>our judicial system whether or not we can have a

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<v Speaker 2>jury of our peers to find somebody's guilt or innocence.

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<v Speaker 2>Top thirty four.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, they're saying that they struck the three black jurors. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>I have two attorneys coming up that are going to

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<v Speaker 6>talk about that. But yeah, it was an all white jury.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's not true. But it is the lie that

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<v Speaker 2>keeps getting parroted again and again and again. This is

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<v Speaker 2>Carmelo Anthony's father saying the same thing. Top thirty six.

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<v Speaker 8>What stuck out to me number one was the all

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<v Speaker 8>white jury.

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<v Speaker 9>But I was trying to be you know, like, it's

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<v Speaker 9>not that big of a deal.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, the truth is on our side.

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<v Speaker 2>So that that's not true. It was actually a pretty

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<v Speaker 2>diverse jury. There was three African Americans who made it

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<v Speaker 2>to I guess some sort of final stage, but they

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<v Speaker 2>all said that they would struggle to convict a young

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<v Speaker 2>black man. And now there's tons of video clips going

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<v Speaker 2>around the internet, Doctor Marino that's say, you know, don't

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<v Speaker 2>do that in the future if you're black, just tell

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<v Speaker 2>them you can be fair. And it strikes it a

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<v Speaker 2>very deep question can we continue doing this, and what

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<v Speaker 2>is the history of it, how important is it and

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<v Speaker 2>where do we go next?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, the jury is an essential institution. It's one of

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<v Speaker 3>the most important ones in the Constitution. Although people don't

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<v Speaker 3>usually look at it as a constitutional institution, but it

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<v Speaker 3>really is, in some ways the most democratic institution in

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<v Speaker 3>the Constitution. It was sort of considered as like the

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<v Speaker 3>lower house of the judicial branch, where the judges were

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<v Speaker 3>sort of an elite, aristocratic part of the judicial system.

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<v Speaker 3>But the jury was a place where ordinary citizens in

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<v Speaker 3>person could help administer.

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<v Speaker 11>The justice system.

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<v Speaker 3>And there's a long history of that in the West,

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<v Speaker 3>going back to ancient Greece and Rome, and the English

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<v Speaker 3>jury system goes back probably to the thirteenth century. During

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<v Speaker 3>the ratification debate over the Constitution. When it came to

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<v Speaker 3>Article three, the judicial branch, there was really more controversy

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<v Speaker 3>about the jury and the way that the original Article

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<v Speaker 3>three provided for a juries. And that's the reason why

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<v Speaker 3>the fourth, fifth, and sixth amendments of the Constitution really

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<v Speaker 3>are all about the jury as an institution. So the

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<v Speaker 3>decline of the jury in American history has really been astounding.

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<v Speaker 3>I think something like two percent of criminal trials ever

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<v Speaker 3>reach a jury today and like less than one percent

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<v Speaker 3>of civil trials, So it really is almost a defunct

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<v Speaker 3>institution in America.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, that's a profound thing. You just said, why are

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<v Speaker 2>we seeing the decline? And it is just because so

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<v Speaker 2>many cases get, you know, plea deals and they find

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<v Speaker 2>settlements outside of the actual trial.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>The changes in the criminal justice system have led to

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<v Speaker 3>just routine plea bargaining and also changes in the civil

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<v Speaker 3>justice system which have made given lawyers a lot more

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<v Speaker 3>opportunity to reach the settlement before we actually go to

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<v Speaker 3>a jury. It's interesting that that's not there's a guarantee

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<v Speaker 3>to a jury trial in criminal cases, in federal criminal

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<v Speaker 3>cases in the original Constitution, and every state still has

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<v Speaker 3>a criminal jury system, although they hardly hardly ever use

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<v Speaker 3>them anymore. But civil trials, you're not entitled to a

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<v Speaker 3>jury trial. The Seventh Amendment, which says that in all

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<v Speaker 3>cases where more than twenty dollars is at stake, you're

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<v Speaker 3>entitled to a jury, has never been enforced. The States

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<v Speaker 3>can waive that if they want to.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean so, I guess, like my question is

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<v Speaker 2>is that a bad thing that more cases are getting

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<v Speaker 2>plea deals and settlements are reached before reaching the trial phase.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Most people in the criminal defense part of the justice

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<v Speaker 3>system think that it is that more people are being

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<v Speaker 3>punished for things that they didn't.

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<v Speaker 12>Do at all.

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<v Speaker 3>That, especially if you can't afford a good lawyer, you're

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<v Speaker 3>going to be taken advantage of by the system where

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<v Speaker 3>you have just sort of, you know, very quick and

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<v Speaker 3>summary justice because there are just so many cases.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, I look at this doctor Marino, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think they should have pled out the facts were

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<v Speaker 2>such they were so stacked against this kid. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>he shouldn't have been carrying the knife in the first place.

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<v Speaker 2>He shouldn't have been sitting under the tent. He was

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<v Speaker 2>asked fifteen times by some eyewitness accounts to leave. He

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't ganged up on, he wasn't assaulted. He was ultimately

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<v Speaker 2>I think a little shove is what I heard. It

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<v Speaker 2>was a small push, and then instantly he was stabbed

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<v Speaker 2>and his hand was already in the back. This this jury, though,

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<v Speaker 2>was made up of apparently it had an Asian, Hispanic, Indian,

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<v Speaker 2>or Middle Eastern individuals, three racial minorities among the twelve.

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<v Speaker 2>More and with more diversity including alternates, so it was

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<v Speaker 2>eight women, four men. Like I said, there was no

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<v Speaker 2>black jurors on the panel. Prosecutors struck all qualified black

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<v Speaker 2>prospective jurors, citing reasons like them being educators or other

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<v Speaker 2>non racial factors. I can't, I e. I can't put

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<v Speaker 2>somebody that's black in jail. Would feel bad about that.

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<v Speaker 2>And the question, I think the heart of the question

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<v Speaker 2>is what are the underlying elements necessary to have a

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<v Speaker 2>jury system that will actually, you know, be fair, that

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<v Speaker 2>will apply the law and not tribalism. And that is

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<v Speaker 2>a question I think a lot of us are asking,

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<v Speaker 2>is in our current demographic makeup and our current with

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<v Speaker 2>all the you know, the racial strife, the racial animus,

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<v Speaker 2>with all the immigration that we've had over the last

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<v Speaker 2>forty fifty years, are we still able to do this

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<v Speaker 2>in an impartial way?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that's one of the things that jury was meant

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<v Speaker 3>to do is to be a way of enforcing sort

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<v Speaker 3>of the norms and the values of the local community.

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<v Speaker 3>And when you have communities that are so divided as

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<v Speaker 3>Americans are today along racial and other lines, as you say,

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<v Speaker 3>it becomes a lot more difficult to do that. Then

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<v Speaker 3>jury trial has become a way of people reaching results

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<v Speaker 3>based upon those racial or other sort of status. People

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<v Speaker 3>are going to think now, I mean the last high

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<v Speaker 3>profile case like this, people would think of the O. J.

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<v Speaker 3>Simpson trial, the Rodney King trial. If you go back

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<v Speaker 3>to the nineteen fifties, the shoe was on the other

0:25:11.359 --> 0:25:14.400
<v Speaker 3>foot was the Emmett Till trial, where an all white

0:25:14.480 --> 0:25:19.200
<v Speaker 3>jury very quickly acquitted some whites who obviously, I think

0:25:19.359 --> 0:25:23.200
<v Speaker 3>after the fact, they confessed had lynched this young black man.

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<v Speaker 3>And so this has been going on for a long

0:25:25.000 --> 0:25:30.400
<v Speaker 3>time in American history. During the Reconstruction period, the unwillingness

0:25:30.400 --> 0:25:34.040
<v Speaker 3>of blacks to serve as jurors because it wasn't regarded

0:25:34.160 --> 0:25:38.199
<v Speaker 3>as a right of a civil right to serve on

0:25:38.240 --> 0:25:41.080
<v Speaker 3>a jury was considered a political right like voting or

0:25:41.080 --> 0:25:44.119
<v Speaker 3>holding office, because serving on a jury is really holding

0:25:44.320 --> 0:25:46.760
<v Speaker 3>an office. So it wasn't until the fifteenth Amendment that

0:25:46.920 --> 0:25:50.440
<v Speaker 3>came about. That Congress struggled with ways to make sure

0:25:50.480 --> 0:25:53.320
<v Speaker 3>that blacks could be able to get justice from all

0:25:53.359 --> 0:25:56.960
<v Speaker 3>white juries in the Southern States and a lot of

0:25:56.960 --> 0:25:59.360
<v Speaker 3>northern states which didn't allow blacks to right to vote

0:25:59.400 --> 0:26:01.639
<v Speaker 3>or serve on jury until the fifteenth Amendment.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a fascinating history. I mean, so what do you

0:26:06.400 --> 0:26:08.600
<v Speaker 2>do then when you get to a point where people

0:26:08.640 --> 0:26:12.440
<v Speaker 2>are saying, now openly lie to get on a jury,

0:26:13.000 --> 0:26:15.840
<v Speaker 2>Lie and tell people that you can be fair when

0:26:15.880 --> 0:26:18.199
<v Speaker 2>you can't, just to get on a jury so you

0:26:18.240 --> 0:26:21.959
<v Speaker 2>can acquit, you know, a black defendant.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because the Supreme it used to be that lawyers

0:26:24.960 --> 0:26:28.240
<v Speaker 3>could strike jurors for any reason whatsoever. They were called

0:26:28.240 --> 0:26:32.280
<v Speaker 3>peremptory challenges for exactly that reason. They were peremptory. In

0:26:32.280 --> 0:26:34.679
<v Speaker 3>the nineteen eighties, I think the Supreme Court said you

0:26:34.720 --> 0:26:37.919
<v Speaker 3>can't use race as the reason for striking a juror.

0:26:38.280 --> 0:26:41.200
<v Speaker 3>And that's why in the selection in this case, they're saying, well,

0:26:41.200 --> 0:26:44.040
<v Speaker 3>it wasn't for race, it was for other reasons, some

0:26:44.119 --> 0:26:47.440
<v Speaker 3>of which were I mean, if these jurors, whose potential jurors,

0:26:47.520 --> 0:26:50.239
<v Speaker 3>said that I can't be unbiased about this, I've got

0:26:50.280 --> 0:26:54.119
<v Speaker 3>to give them credit for their honesty. Yeah, and for

0:26:54.600 --> 0:26:58.159
<v Speaker 3>you know, if people can't really can't believe that a

0:26:58.240 --> 0:27:01.760
<v Speaker 3>jury of a particular race can do justice when the

0:27:01.800 --> 0:27:04.840
<v Speaker 3>defended is of another race. I don't know how why

0:27:04.920 --> 0:27:09.000
<v Speaker 3>that sentiment extends and how often high profile cases like

0:27:09.040 --> 0:27:11.960
<v Speaker 3>this would come up. But as I said before, it's

0:27:12.000 --> 0:27:14.680
<v Speaker 3>not the first time in even recent history that we've

0:27:14.920 --> 0:27:18.919
<v Speaker 3>had high profile racialized controversy like this.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I certainly hope that this does not become a

0:27:23.080 --> 0:27:27.720
<v Speaker 2>massive trend, because you know, I hope this tension dies down.

0:27:27.760 --> 0:27:31.959
<v Speaker 2>To me, this was egregious in many ways. The facts

0:27:31.960 --> 0:27:36.520
<v Speaker 2>were completely stacked against him, and I think the I

0:27:36.560 --> 0:27:38.880
<v Speaker 2>think the jury made the right decision. And I don't

0:27:38.920 --> 0:27:42.960
<v Speaker 2>actually understand the controversy other than there's a lot of

0:27:42.960 --> 0:27:45.000
<v Speaker 2>bad actors that are working in bad faith out there

0:27:45.040 --> 0:27:49.719
<v Speaker 2>that want to sew discord, that want to just malign

0:27:49.800 --> 0:27:52.480
<v Speaker 2>the system. In this instance, the system did what it

0:27:52.520 --> 0:27:56.520
<v Speaker 2>was supposed to do. This kid was clearly guilty, eyewitness accounts,

0:27:56.680 --> 0:28:01.040
<v Speaker 2>the evidence, Yeah, he should be held accountable, and people

0:28:01.080 --> 0:28:04.320
<v Speaker 2>are upset about that. You know, I don't understand what

0:28:04.359 --> 0:28:06.600
<v Speaker 2>they're upset about, other than that he's a black young man.

0:28:06.840 --> 0:28:07.280
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

0:28:07.520 --> 0:28:10.119
<v Speaker 3>The other factor is this is Texas, and Texas is

0:28:10.119 --> 0:28:13.840
<v Speaker 3>a death penalty state. And if the charge here is murder,

0:28:14.000 --> 0:28:16.159
<v Speaker 3>then there are a lot of people who have compunctions

0:28:16.200 --> 0:28:19.560
<v Speaker 3>about convicting people from murder, whereas and this is kind

0:28:19.560 --> 0:28:22.639
<v Speaker 3>of a plea bargaining thing. If you reduce the charge

0:28:22.640 --> 0:28:25.600
<v Speaker 3>to manslaughter with the prison term, more people might be

0:28:25.640 --> 0:28:29.639
<v Speaker 3>comfortable with that. English juries until England changes criminal laws.

0:28:29.720 --> 0:28:33.040
<v Speaker 3>In the nineteenth century, every felony was punishable by death,

0:28:33.359 --> 0:28:35.000
<v Speaker 3>and so you had a lot of juries that said

0:28:35.000 --> 0:28:37.199
<v Speaker 3>we're not gonna convict just because we don't think you

0:28:37.280 --> 0:28:39.600
<v Speaker 3>deserve the death penalty for picking someone's pocket.

0:28:39.720 --> 0:28:41.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to play a clip from Pete boot Edge

0:28:42.040 --> 0:28:45.120
<v Speaker 2>edge and get your reaction to it. On the other side.

0:28:45.400 --> 0:28:48.120
<v Speaker 13>Thirty three, we have to deal with a Supreme Court

0:28:48.160 --> 0:28:55.120
<v Speaker 13>that is now a rogue Supreme Court. To see them

0:28:55.160 --> 0:29:00.800
<v Speaker 13>eviscerate the Voting Rights Act is to see them reverse

0:29:00.880 --> 0:29:03.800
<v Speaker 13>some of the most important progress this country ever made,

0:29:05.680 --> 0:29:09.160
<v Speaker 13>wiping out black political representation. But also wiping out part

0:29:09.200 --> 0:29:13.240
<v Speaker 13>of what actually is great within the complex American story.

0:29:13.920 --> 0:29:16.720
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so now you see what's happening here. It's not

0:29:16.880 --> 0:29:23.160
<v Speaker 2>just delegitimizing the juries. It's not just delegitimizing a verdict

0:29:23.160 --> 0:29:27.800
<v Speaker 2>and a very clear case involving Carmelo Anthony and Austin Metcalf.

0:29:28.440 --> 0:29:30.960
<v Speaker 2>Now we got to talk about the Supreme Court. We're

0:29:30.960 --> 0:29:33.920
<v Speaker 2>gonna pack it, We're gonna we're gonna do everything we

0:29:34.000 --> 0:29:37.600
<v Speaker 2>can to get our way politically and ideologically. What do

0:29:37.640 --> 0:29:39.640
<v Speaker 2>you make of that clip from Pete boot.

0:29:39.480 --> 0:29:42.800
<v Speaker 3>Edge Edge, Well, I've just read today that the Trump

0:29:42.840 --> 0:29:48.960
<v Speaker 3>administration is really taking on the disparent impact standard of discrimination.

0:29:49.040 --> 0:29:52.720
<v Speaker 3>That's really what all those voting rights controversies about. The

0:29:52.800 --> 0:29:55.880
<v Speaker 3>idea that enforcing the fourteenth and the fifteenth Amendment is

0:29:55.880 --> 0:30:01.080
<v Speaker 3>about racial proportionalism, that we assume there's a discrimination unless

0:30:01.120 --> 0:30:05.280
<v Speaker 3>Blacks or whoever are represented in proportion to their percentage

0:30:05.320 --> 0:30:08.480
<v Speaker 3>of the population in every field of human life. And

0:30:08.600 --> 0:30:12.560
<v Speaker 3>the Reconstruction Amendments were never meant to do that. Congress

0:30:12.560 --> 0:30:16.680
<v Speaker 3>overstepped its bounds, I think in Title seven of the

0:30:16.720 --> 0:30:18.800
<v Speaker 3>Civil Rights Act and in the Voting Rights Act, and

0:30:18.840 --> 0:30:20.800
<v Speaker 3>the Court went along with that in the nineteen sixties

0:30:21.040 --> 0:30:23.760
<v Speaker 3>and seventies, and now the Roberts Court is beginning to,

0:30:23.800 --> 0:30:28.920
<v Speaker 3>I think, contain some of these excessive interpretations of the

0:30:28.920 --> 0:30:33.600
<v Speaker 3>reconstruction amendments. So the Court is, I think right now

0:30:33.600 --> 0:30:36.720
<v Speaker 3>trying to undo some of the bad decisions that it

0:30:36.760 --> 0:30:40.400
<v Speaker 3>made in the past, and I think they're completelytely right

0:30:40.480 --> 0:30:41.120
<v Speaker 3>for them to do that.

0:30:42.240 --> 0:30:44.640
<v Speaker 2>I love what you just said, doctor Marino, for a

0:30:44.760 --> 0:30:47.640
<v Speaker 2>number of reasons. Namely, Charlie felt the same way. I mean,

0:30:47.760 --> 0:30:50.720
<v Speaker 2>Charlie was very Charlie said it very bluntly that he

0:30:50.800 --> 0:30:53.160
<v Speaker 2>thought that some of the Civil Rights Act was a mistake,

0:30:53.200 --> 0:30:55.400
<v Speaker 2>and he took a bunch of incoming for it. It's

0:30:55.400 --> 0:30:58.480
<v Speaker 2>not that he didn't, you know, support the intent, but

0:30:58.560 --> 0:31:03.800
<v Speaker 2>what he was talking about was this excessive maybe language

0:31:03.880 --> 0:31:06.120
<v Speaker 2>within the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act

0:31:06.440 --> 0:31:09.360
<v Speaker 2>that they're correcting now. But talk about a little bit

0:31:09.400 --> 0:31:12.240
<v Speaker 2>more detail, because I really want the audience to absorb

0:31:12.280 --> 0:31:18.000
<v Speaker 2>this disparate impact. What is it and why has it

0:31:18.040 --> 0:31:20.960
<v Speaker 2>been misinterpreted? And then you said Section seven of the

0:31:21.000 --> 0:31:23.400
<v Speaker 2>Civil Rights Act unpacked that a little bit more.

0:31:23.560 --> 0:31:26.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because the Civil Rights Act in nineteen sixty four

0:31:26.520 --> 0:31:29.360
<v Speaker 3>is a long bill. Section two, almost nobody would have

0:31:29.360 --> 0:31:32.280
<v Speaker 3>any argument with that was about segregation Jim Crow in

0:31:32.320 --> 0:31:33.600
<v Speaker 3>places of public accommodation.

0:31:34.120 --> 0:31:35.720
<v Speaker 2>Can I pause you right there? Can I pause you

0:31:35.760 --> 0:31:38.960
<v Speaker 2>right there? This is what happens in this argument. If

0:31:39.000 --> 0:31:43.240
<v Speaker 2>you criticize anything within the Civil Rights Act, they go, oh,

0:31:43.280 --> 0:31:46.160
<v Speaker 2>what do you want segregation again? Do you want Jim Crow? No, no, no, no, no,

0:31:46.200 --> 0:31:49.040
<v Speaker 2>we're not talking about section two. That it's a big

0:31:49.080 --> 0:31:51.560
<v Speaker 2>old bill. So let's be very specific. Continue. Sorry, I

0:31:51.640 --> 0:31:54.360
<v Speaker 2>just had to make I just had to right exactly.

0:31:54.400 --> 0:31:56.960
<v Speaker 3>And that was the most controversial part of the Civil

0:31:57.040 --> 0:31:58.600
<v Speaker 3>Rights Act, and that's what most people thought the civil

0:31:58.680 --> 0:32:01.600
<v Speaker 3>rights movement was all about. Title seven is about employment

0:32:01.640 --> 0:32:05.600
<v Speaker 3>in private discrimination. It wasn't part of President Kennedy's original

0:32:05.600 --> 0:32:08.480
<v Speaker 3>proposal for the Civil Rights Bill. It was put in

0:32:08.800 --> 0:32:12.560
<v Speaker 3>by congressional liberals. And there you can make a constitutional

0:32:12.680 --> 0:32:15.840
<v Speaker 3>argument that that really goes beyond Congress's power to regulate

0:32:15.880 --> 0:32:19.360
<v Speaker 3>commerce among the states. But even if you accept that

0:32:19.560 --> 0:32:23.760
<v Speaker 3>justification for Title seven, the idea that discrimination is proved

0:32:23.800 --> 0:32:26.640
<v Speaker 3>on the basis of statistical disparity. This is the disparate

0:32:26.640 --> 0:32:29.760
<v Speaker 3>impact standard. That is just you know, I think a

0:32:29.760 --> 0:32:32.520
<v Speaker 3>bridge too far. Because when the Civil Rights Act was

0:32:32.520 --> 0:32:37.200
<v Speaker 3>being debated, almost everybody said, discrimination is defined here as

0:32:37.200 --> 0:32:41.560
<v Speaker 3>it was always understood, an intentional act treating somebody differently

0:32:41.640 --> 0:32:44.080
<v Speaker 3>on the basis of their race. And now it has

0:32:44.120 --> 0:32:48.080
<v Speaker 3>become not about individuals, not about treatment. It's become that

0:32:48.240 --> 0:32:52.560
<v Speaker 3>equal group outcomes justice. Scalida referred to the interpretation of

0:32:52.560 --> 0:32:56.600
<v Speaker 3>the Voting Rights Act as a racial entitlement to a

0:32:56.640 --> 0:32:58.880
<v Speaker 3>certain proportion of elected officials.

0:32:59.200 --> 0:33:01.960
<v Speaker 2>It's so important, and what you're saying, and what you

0:33:02.080 --> 0:33:04.360
<v Speaker 2>just said is really important. I remember reading about this

0:33:05.040 --> 0:33:09.240
<v Speaker 2>a lot within Christopher Caldwell's book Age of Entitlement, and

0:33:09.960 --> 0:33:12.320
<v Speaker 2>he you know, so let's just lay the timeline out here.

0:33:12.920 --> 0:33:16.840
<v Speaker 2>JFK gets assassinated November twenty second, nineteen sixty three, and

0:33:16.880 --> 0:33:20.760
<v Speaker 2>he was working on a version of the Civil Rights Act.

0:33:20.960 --> 0:33:24.240
<v Speaker 2>So he gets assassinated. The Civil Rights Act of nineteen

0:33:24.280 --> 0:33:27.320
<v Speaker 2>sixty four was passed by Congress and signed into law

0:33:27.360 --> 0:33:31.560
<v Speaker 2>on July second, nineteen sixty four, so about let's say

0:33:31.600 --> 0:33:35.000
<v Speaker 2>seven months later, about seven months later it signed into law,

0:33:35.320 --> 0:33:38.200
<v Speaker 2>and Lenny by Johnson, I mean, this was a huge

0:33:38.520 --> 0:33:42.280
<v Speaker 2>initial effort for him to win black support to sort

0:33:42.320 --> 0:33:44.320
<v Speaker 2>of you know, and he they pitched to the country

0:33:44.360 --> 0:33:47.680
<v Speaker 2>a morning country, a devastated country, as a way to

0:33:47.680 --> 0:33:52.320
<v Speaker 2>sort of fulfill JFK's memory and legacy. But it ballooned.

0:33:52.360 --> 0:33:54.760
<v Speaker 2>And you made that point that it was liberals within

0:33:54.800 --> 0:33:57.840
<v Speaker 2>the Congress, the progressives in the Congress, that packed it

0:33:57.920 --> 0:34:01.000
<v Speaker 2>full of all these other things that part of his vision,

0:34:01.560 --> 0:34:06.920
<v Speaker 2>namely Section seven with this proportionate representation, proportional proportional entitlement.

0:34:07.240 --> 0:34:10.520
<v Speaker 2>These are these little history nuggets that get lost, but

0:34:10.600 --> 0:34:15.960
<v Speaker 2>they're extra constitutional, they're they're very against what the foundations

0:34:16.000 --> 0:34:19.759
<v Speaker 2>of the of American society. Uh So, so it's good

0:34:19.760 --> 0:34:22.040
<v Speaker 2>that the Roberts Court is actually addressing these things. But

0:34:22.080 --> 0:34:25.480
<v Speaker 2>obviously progressives are losing their minds about it. But it's

0:34:25.520 --> 0:34:29.560
<v Speaker 2>so important that the that that our audience understands the

0:34:29.600 --> 0:34:31.480
<v Speaker 2>history of how we got here and what it's going

0:34:31.560 --> 0:34:33.160
<v Speaker 2>to take to correct a historic wrong.

0:34:33.520 --> 0:34:35.759
<v Speaker 3>Yes, in fact, that goes back to because John F.

0:34:35.800 --> 0:34:38.200
<v Speaker 3>Kennedy was already reluctant about taking on the civil rights

0:34:38.239 --> 0:34:41.680
<v Speaker 3>issue because Southern or Southern segregationists were sort of the

0:34:41.920 --> 0:34:44.760
<v Speaker 3>core of the Democratic Party. They shared all the important

0:34:44.760 --> 0:34:48.360
<v Speaker 3>committees in Congress. So Kennedy was like this FDR was

0:34:48.400 --> 0:34:51.360
<v Speaker 3>like this before him, but Johnson was able to turn

0:34:51.480 --> 0:34:53.760
<v Speaker 3>JFK into a sort of a marker for the civil

0:34:53.840 --> 0:34:58.320
<v Speaker 3>Rights bill. He really played played it politically very definitely

0:34:58.560 --> 0:35:01.319
<v Speaker 3>and was able to break the Senate filibuster. And back

0:35:01.320 --> 0:35:04.920
<v Speaker 3>then this filibuster was a two thirds majority required to

0:35:05.040 --> 0:35:07.120
<v Speaker 3>end debate. So you're right, the assassination of John F.

0:35:07.200 --> 0:35:10.399
<v Speaker 3>Kennedy really was the turning point, but that event had

0:35:10.400 --> 0:35:14.040
<v Speaker 3>to be told in a certain way to sell the connection.

0:35:14.320 --> 0:35:17.000
<v Speaker 2>Doctor Marino, this was excellent. Thank you so so much

0:35:17.000 --> 0:35:19.040
<v Speaker 2>for making the time. I hope our audience got a

0:35:19.040 --> 0:35:22.280
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<v Speaker 12>of Team Erica and I love you guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, God blessing you you.

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<v Speaker 12>The question I have is, uh is a couple of

0:37:58.600 --> 0:38:02.640
<v Speaker 12>weeks ago, the High I was voted to tell Trump

0:38:02.680 --> 0:38:06.080
<v Speaker 12>he couldn't go to war, no war, and I'm just wondering.

0:38:06.239 --> 0:38:09.680
<v Speaker 12>I think I know what that really means, but wonder

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<v Speaker 12>what one to hear your thoughts on it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean I got a bunch of thoughts on it. Basically,

0:38:15.680 --> 0:38:17.600
<v Speaker 2>to bring our audience up to speed though. Yeah, the

0:38:17.680 --> 0:38:20.120
<v Speaker 2>vote happened June third, I.

0:38:20.080 --> 0:38:21.160
<v Speaker 14>Believe, like a week ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, exactly. So it's got very limited ability to

0:38:27.400 --> 0:38:30.160
<v Speaker 2>impact Trump's ability to prosecute the war or not. It's

0:38:30.320 --> 0:38:33.440
<v Speaker 2>it's mostly viewed as a symbolic gesture, a symbolic rebuke.

0:38:33.960 --> 0:38:37.359
<v Speaker 2>It passed. I'm looking here two fifteen to two oh eight.

0:38:37.480 --> 0:38:41.000
<v Speaker 2>Four Republicans Thomas Massey, Brian Fitzpatrick, Tom Barrett, and Warren

0:38:41.120 --> 0:38:46.439
<v Speaker 2>Davidson joined the Democrats, and in its language, it sort

0:38:46.480 --> 0:38:50.080
<v Speaker 2>of says, hey, you got to withdraw your American troops,

0:38:50.120 --> 0:38:54.840
<v Speaker 2>your troops from hostilities with iron unless we declare a war. Okay.

0:38:55.400 --> 0:38:58.239
<v Speaker 2>A lot of people think it's unconstitutional. The Senate has

0:38:58.280 --> 0:39:04.320
<v Speaker 2>advanced a similar measure, really really narrow margins. It doesn't

0:39:04.360 --> 0:39:07.719
<v Speaker 2>have the weight of law behind it. Essentially, it doesn't

0:39:07.760 --> 0:39:09.720
<v Speaker 2>go to the President's desk to sign or to veto,

0:39:10.719 --> 0:39:13.360
<v Speaker 2>so it's limited real effect on Trump's powers. But I

0:39:13.400 --> 0:39:17.320
<v Speaker 2>would also add another point is that the individual most

0:39:18.360 --> 0:39:22.360
<v Speaker 2>it seems consumed obsessed with getting peace and finding a

0:39:22.400 --> 0:39:25.040
<v Speaker 2>resolution to the conflicts. It's the president himself. So I'm

0:39:25.080 --> 0:39:28.719
<v Speaker 2>not sure what they were trying to sort of communicate here.

0:39:28.719 --> 0:39:30.800
<v Speaker 2>I mean, the President has spent the last two days

0:39:31.239 --> 0:39:33.840
<v Speaker 2>trying to get the peace deal with a very difficult

0:39:33.840 --> 0:39:37.280
<v Speaker 2>negotiation over the finish line, so that we can open

0:39:37.280 --> 0:39:39.600
<v Speaker 2>the straight we can remove the blockade, that we can

0:39:39.680 --> 0:39:42.920
<v Speaker 2>get the nuclear dust, that we can ensure that Iran

0:39:43.000 --> 0:39:46.000
<v Speaker 2>never has a nuclear weapon again. And again, I was

0:39:46.040 --> 0:39:48.240
<v Speaker 2>not in favor of going it. I was not in favor.

0:39:48.280 --> 0:39:50.120
<v Speaker 2>I could say, tell I'm blue in the face, and

0:39:50.160 --> 0:39:51.960
<v Speaker 2>it's like some people will never hear me say that.

0:39:52.320 --> 0:39:54.719
<v Speaker 2>I really wasn't. I don't want to run to have

0:39:54.760 --> 0:39:57.759
<v Speaker 2>a nuclear weapon. But President Trump made the decision to

0:39:57.840 --> 0:39:59.839
<v Speaker 2>do it. And so at that point you want him

0:39:59.880 --> 0:40:01.759
<v Speaker 2>to and you want me to get what he what

0:40:01.800 --> 0:40:03.160
<v Speaker 2>he went in for, and you don't want it to

0:40:03.160 --> 0:40:05.520
<v Speaker 2>be in vain. Okay, So I would say, I don't

0:40:05.520 --> 0:40:07.600
<v Speaker 2>know what they're trying to communicate. The President wants peace,

0:40:07.640 --> 0:40:09.880
<v Speaker 2>the President's been working towards peace. He wants to get

0:40:09.920 --> 0:40:12.799
<v Speaker 2>this peace deal done. Jd Vance is very behind him

0:40:12.840 --> 0:40:16.160
<v Speaker 2>and is working tirelessly to get it done. So I

0:40:16.160 --> 0:40:18.120
<v Speaker 2>don't know what the House and the Senate we're trying

0:40:18.120 --> 0:40:20.640
<v Speaker 2>to get accomplished here, other than trying to hamstring the

0:40:20.640 --> 0:40:22.560
<v Speaker 2>President in the middle of a high stakes negotiation.

0:40:23.480 --> 0:40:25.360
<v Speaker 12>So yeah, it seems like a dumb thing to do

0:40:25.480 --> 0:40:26.480
<v Speaker 12>to me as well.

0:40:27.600 --> 0:40:29.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I genuinely don't.

0:40:30.040 --> 0:40:32.160
<v Speaker 14>These symbolic votes just seem like a waste of time.

0:40:32.239 --> 0:40:34.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's like, listen, can you can you pass the

0:40:34.040 --> 0:40:38.839
<v Speaker 2>Save America Act? Here? Yeah? Really, yeah, that's what we want.

0:40:39.960 --> 0:40:43.439
<v Speaker 2>I hope that answer your question. Don Thank you, God,

0:40:43.440 --> 0:40:45.640
<v Speaker 2>bless you man. Thank you for being team Erica of

0:40:45.719 --> 0:40:48.839
<v Speaker 2>course and team turning point, David, Welcome to the show.

0:40:48.880 --> 0:40:52.160
<v Speaker 2>You're up next. Welcome and please unmute yourself.

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<v Speaker 8>Hey, how are we doing today?

0:40:55.600 --> 0:40:57.240
<v Speaker 2>Doing great? David? What's your question?

0:40:58.880 --> 0:41:02.040
<v Speaker 8>My question is, and I'll make it a quick We're

0:41:02.080 --> 0:41:05.920
<v Speaker 8>in California. We voted early because everybody said that we

0:41:05.920 --> 0:41:11.440
<v Speaker 8>should vote early. So basically what happened is that it

0:41:11.680 --> 0:41:16.640
<v Speaker 8>seems that the Democrats saw what they needed and started

0:41:16.680 --> 0:41:21.640
<v Speaker 8>flying in ballots. What what are we supposed to do?

0:41:22.160 --> 0:41:24.880
<v Speaker 8>Or in your opinion, what what is what should we

0:41:24.920 --> 0:41:28.800
<v Speaker 8>do net for in December or in November?

0:41:28.880 --> 0:41:33.880
<v Speaker 2>November? Yeah, so you know, you got to think about

0:41:34.000 --> 0:41:36.560
<v Speaker 2>voting in states that have early voting, which is the

0:41:36.600 --> 0:41:39.080
<v Speaker 2>vast majority of them. You gotta think of it like

0:41:39.120 --> 0:41:44.000
<v Speaker 2>a basketball game or a sports competition. There's four quarters.

0:41:44.280 --> 0:41:47.120
<v Speaker 2>You gotta win all four quarters. Okay, you gotta win

0:41:48.280 --> 0:41:51.520
<v Speaker 2>early when it starts, you gotta win early in person,

0:41:51.680 --> 0:41:55.160
<v Speaker 2>late early, then you gotta win in person. So you

0:41:55.440 --> 0:41:57.319
<v Speaker 2>gotta you gotta kind of play it on all front.

0:41:57.320 --> 0:42:00.759
<v Speaker 2>So you didn't do anything wrong by voting early by

0:42:00.760 --> 0:42:03.960
<v Speaker 2>any means. Have you checked the status of your ballot?

0:42:03.960 --> 0:42:07.239
<v Speaker 2>By the way, did you get any letters for you know,

0:42:07.719 --> 0:42:10.480
<v Speaker 2>requesting your you know, to reado your signature or anything

0:42:10.520 --> 0:42:11.400
<v Speaker 2>like that. Did you check it?

0:42:12.280 --> 0:42:12.920
<v Speaker 9>I checked it.

0:42:13.480 --> 0:42:17.239
<v Speaker 8>I kept checking it because I wanted to make sure

0:42:17.920 --> 0:42:20.160
<v Speaker 8>there was this cheating going on, and it kept saying

0:42:20.200 --> 0:42:23.320
<v Speaker 8>that mine was accepted and counted.

0:42:23.880 --> 0:42:26.839
<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, well good, So here's what I would say.

0:42:27.640 --> 0:42:31.400
<v Speaker 15>But we did have but we did have people in

0:42:31.719 --> 0:42:36.839
<v Speaker 15>our in our group that there they said the signatures

0:42:36.920 --> 0:42:39.320
<v Speaker 15>what didn't match, So they flew their their.

0:42:39.239 --> 0:42:41.880
<v Speaker 8>Votes out for for certain people.

0:42:42.120 --> 0:42:44.719
<v Speaker 2>Did they did they get a chance to redo their

0:42:44.760 --> 0:42:46.400
<v Speaker 2>signatures and get their votes counted?

0:42:47.080 --> 0:42:48.759
<v Speaker 15>Uh afterwards?

0:42:48.840 --> 0:42:49.200
<v Speaker 8>Yeah?

0:42:49.320 --> 0:42:53.319
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well that's the process. Curing the ballots is a

0:42:53.520 --> 0:42:56.319
<v Speaker 2>is a legal process. So what I would say is

0:42:56.360 --> 0:42:58.320
<v Speaker 2>a couple of things. First of all, we are for

0:42:58.760 --> 0:43:02.480
<v Speaker 2>in person voting day of paper ballots that I mean,

0:43:02.560 --> 0:43:05.520
<v Speaker 2>that's what we want, right and we want the Save

0:43:05.560 --> 0:43:08.520
<v Speaker 2>America Pass. So you have to prove your citizenship, you

0:43:08.520 --> 0:43:10.600
<v Speaker 2>have to prove your identity, you have to show an ID.

0:43:11.040 --> 0:43:13.319
<v Speaker 2>All of those things are very important until we get there,

0:43:13.440 --> 0:43:16.320
<v Speaker 2>especially in places like California, especially for mayoral races and

0:43:16.360 --> 0:43:20.759
<v Speaker 2>governor dominatorial races, which they could still mandate whatever rules

0:43:20.800 --> 0:43:23.560
<v Speaker 2>they want because that's the dividing of the powers here

0:43:23.560 --> 0:43:25.640
<v Speaker 2>in the United States. What the Save America Act will

0:43:25.680 --> 0:43:28.760
<v Speaker 2>affect federal elections, right, so when you're voting for president

0:43:28.800 --> 0:43:32.919
<v Speaker 2>and Congress and all that stuff. So there's gonna still

0:43:32.920 --> 0:43:34.960
<v Speaker 2>be problems at the state level regardless of what we do.

0:43:35.440 --> 0:43:38.560
<v Speaker 2>California does have a signature verification or a voter ID

0:43:39.040 --> 0:43:40.640
<v Speaker 2>a resolution that's going to be on the ballot in

0:43:40.640 --> 0:43:43.319
<v Speaker 2>November that does seem to be popular with the even

0:43:43.360 --> 0:43:45.799
<v Speaker 2>the people of California. So we're gonna work to help

0:43:45.840 --> 0:43:48.200
<v Speaker 2>get that passed. And I think that's gonna add some

0:43:48.239 --> 0:43:50.040
<v Speaker 2>wind in the sales. But Charlie used to say this

0:43:50.080 --> 0:43:51.680
<v Speaker 2>all the time, and Danny and Dais will remember this,

0:43:52.120 --> 0:43:54.440
<v Speaker 2>that the movement is too big to fit into one day.

0:43:54.440 --> 0:43:57.080
<v Speaker 2>So when we tell you vote early, what we're saying is,

0:43:57.440 --> 0:43:59.600
<v Speaker 2>don't get on election day and realize you're sick or

0:43:59.600 --> 0:44:02.040
<v Speaker 2>get a fly at tire or something, some emergency comes

0:44:02.080 --> 0:44:04.399
<v Speaker 2>up and you don't get a chance to vote. Get

0:44:04.480 --> 0:44:07.600
<v Speaker 2>the get the ballot in go. I what I had

0:44:07.640 --> 0:44:11.040
<v Speaker 2>to do last election. I was still in California. I

0:44:11.080 --> 0:44:15.360
<v Speaker 2>took my ballot into the voting center the day before

0:44:15.520 --> 0:44:17.160
<v Speaker 2>and I dropped it in personal because I knew I

0:44:17.160 --> 0:44:18.560
<v Speaker 2>was going to be busy all day with the election.

0:44:19.000 --> 0:44:20.919
<v Speaker 16>Yeah, that's what we were just talking about what day

0:44:21.040 --> 0:44:24.400
<v Speaker 16>we typically liked vote. I agree that I like to

0:44:24.440 --> 0:44:27.320
<v Speaker 16>go in person, day of civic duty, get the sticker.

0:44:27.680 --> 0:44:30.239
<v Speaker 16>There's a great energy. But last year, I mean we

0:44:30.239 --> 0:44:33.520
<v Speaker 16>were here yeah, literally for forty eight hours in a row.

0:44:33.600 --> 0:44:36.680
<v Speaker 2>So twenty twenty four, yes, yes, four.

0:44:36.680 --> 0:44:39.480
<v Speaker 16>To me, that was almost two years ago. Wow that

0:44:40.160 --> 0:44:41.960
<v Speaker 16>a lot of us like actually filled out our ballots

0:44:42.000 --> 0:44:44.000
<v Speaker 16>and then went to drop it off that day or

0:44:44.600 --> 0:44:48.800
<v Speaker 16>went to vote early. But locally local elections, I like

0:44:48.840 --> 0:44:49.560
<v Speaker 16>to vote day of.

0:44:49.840 --> 0:44:51.360
<v Speaker 14>Yeah, yeah, I always vote day of.

0:44:52.960 --> 0:44:55.080
<v Speaker 2>It's very similar simple for Danny.

0:44:54.880 --> 0:44:57.399
<v Speaker 14>Well im Chicago too, So our elections are run very

0:44:57.400 --> 0:45:00.560
<v Speaker 14>similar to LA Yeah, so I'm always worried about it,

0:45:00.560 --> 0:45:01.680
<v Speaker 14>so I always voted in person.

0:45:01.800 --> 0:45:04.400
<v Speaker 2>Listen, and you're not wrong for being suspicious. I mean,

0:45:04.440 --> 0:45:06.799
<v Speaker 2>we have Bill a Sale on the show. You know,

0:45:07.000 --> 0:45:10.240
<v Speaker 2>the first assistant US Attorney to the Central District of California,

0:45:10.280 --> 0:45:12.719
<v Speaker 2>and he said that the fraud is just baked in.

0:45:13.160 --> 0:45:16.279
<v Speaker 2>The fraud. It's structural fraud, and it needs to be

0:45:16.320 --> 0:45:18.160
<v Speaker 2>dealt with. It needs to be litigated, it needs to

0:45:18.200 --> 0:45:20.040
<v Speaker 2>be prosecuted. There's only so much he can do when

0:45:20.040 --> 0:45:23.960
<v Speaker 2>the system is so screwed up. When you have mass

0:45:23.960 --> 0:45:28.719
<v Speaker 2>mail in voting and lax ID or no ID, that's

0:45:28.760 --> 0:45:31.959
<v Speaker 2>all they need. That's all they need to cheat. Next question,

0:45:32.000 --> 0:45:35.759
<v Speaker 2>who do we got up next? Caleb? Caleb and Michelle Yep,

0:45:36.760 --> 0:45:40.759
<v Speaker 2>welcome too. It's been too long. Where have you been?

0:45:42.280 --> 0:45:46.879
<v Speaker 17>I said, We've just been busy in North Carolina. Uh,

0:45:46.960 --> 0:45:50.160
<v Speaker 17>you know, it's it's it's having come from Minnesota. It

0:45:50.320 --> 0:45:52.600
<v Speaker 17>is just a little bit surreal that we have a

0:45:52.600 --> 0:45:56.680
<v Speaker 17>sports team here that's actually in the finals. So you

0:45:56.719 --> 0:45:58.319
<v Speaker 17>know that's been consuming a lot of our time.

0:45:58.920 --> 0:46:00.680
<v Speaker 2>Uh, fair enough.

0:46:01.760 --> 0:46:06.480
<v Speaker 17>My question is Amy Klobuchar is announced that she's running

0:46:06.480 --> 0:46:09.799
<v Speaker 17>for governor of Minnesota and she's announced her running mate

0:46:09.920 --> 0:46:14.400
<v Speaker 17>as the former mayor of our hometown, Fergus Falls, Ben Shire,

0:46:15.000 --> 0:46:17.360
<v Speaker 17>And I don't know if you guys have been paying attention.

0:46:17.440 --> 0:46:21.040
<v Speaker 17>Maybe Blake is, but he's not here today. But we're

0:46:21.080 --> 0:46:24.760
<v Speaker 17>wondering if you think that they picked Ben Schier because

0:46:24.920 --> 0:46:30.200
<v Speaker 17>either he's buddy buddy with Tim Walls, or because Fergus

0:46:30.239 --> 0:46:33.160
<v Speaker 17>Falls just made it on the map because they're the

0:46:33.160 --> 0:46:36.760
<v Speaker 17>home of the American Idol runner up, Chris tung Seth.

0:46:38.600 --> 0:46:43.120
<v Speaker 16>That I don't know about this specific story, but I

0:46:43.160 --> 0:46:46.960
<v Speaker 16>would be more inclined to lean towards Option one because

0:46:47.120 --> 0:46:50.120
<v Speaker 16>I think that American Idol is heavily on the decline.

0:46:50.120 --> 0:46:51.319
<v Speaker 16>I don't know if you saw there was a winner

0:46:51.360 --> 0:46:54.080
<v Speaker 16>from a couple of years ago that was the winner,

0:46:54.080 --> 0:46:56.080
<v Speaker 16>not even the runner up, and went back to busking

0:46:56.239 --> 0:46:58.799
<v Speaker 16>in the subway in New York City to pay rent.

0:46:58.920 --> 0:47:01.960
<v Speaker 16>So I don't know, I would lean more towards Optional one.

0:47:02.000 --> 0:47:03.640
<v Speaker 16>I don't know. You guys think the Tim Wall story

0:47:03.680 --> 0:47:04.560
<v Speaker 16>sounds more believable.

0:47:04.680 --> 0:47:05.239
<v Speaker 2>What do you think that?

0:47:05.440 --> 0:47:05.680
<v Speaker 11>I mean?

0:47:05.800 --> 0:47:09.200
<v Speaker 14>Yeah, I don't think American Idol has any relevance.

0:47:09.480 --> 0:47:14.239
<v Speaker 2>I mean maybe a small town Minnesota does. Listen, I

0:47:14.440 --> 0:47:17.200
<v Speaker 2>think that's fine. I think that's a probably, like, you know,

0:47:17.239 --> 0:47:20.640
<v Speaker 2>maybe that factored in minimally. I don't know, Kale, but

0:47:20.840 --> 0:47:23.760
<v Speaker 2>you know, the reason they picked she picked ben Shire

0:47:23.920 --> 0:47:25.759
<v Speaker 2>is because he's a white dude with five kids from

0:47:25.800 --> 0:47:29.520
<v Speaker 2>rural Minnesota. So if you're gonna win Minnesota, Minnesota, as

0:47:29.560 --> 0:47:32.839
<v Speaker 2>you know, the margins are actually pretty tight and there's

0:47:32.840 --> 0:47:36.120
<v Speaker 2>a lot of bad pr if you're a Democrat out

0:47:36.120 --> 0:47:39.600
<v Speaker 2>of Minnesota this year. So it's it's a very transparent

0:47:39.680 --> 0:47:44.000
<v Speaker 2>play to appeal to rural white voters in Minnesota. So

0:47:44.080 --> 0:47:47.160
<v Speaker 2>because he's from western Minnesota, you know, he's a he's

0:47:47.160 --> 0:47:50.080
<v Speaker 2>a small town mayor, as you said. So that's that's

0:47:50.080 --> 0:47:52.879
<v Speaker 2>what it's about. She's trying to get outside of the

0:47:53.080 --> 0:47:56.000
<v Speaker 2>Minneapolis Saint Paul bubble and bring in the rest of

0:47:56.000 --> 0:47:56.319
<v Speaker 2>the state.

0:47:56.480 --> 0:47:58.840
<v Speaker 16>You can be progressive, but not too progressive. You still

0:47:58.880 --> 0:47:59.400
<v Speaker 16>need look.

0:47:59.280 --> 0:48:04.520
<v Speaker 2>At where normal white guy, we have five kids. How

0:48:04.520 --> 0:48:06.520
<v Speaker 2>do you not hate that? Yeah?

0:48:06.600 --> 0:48:09.560
<v Speaker 17>Yeah, well and definitely, I mean, yes, you're right, smalltown

0:48:09.600 --> 0:48:11.640
<v Speaker 17>Minnesota American I was a big deal. I mean they

0:48:11.640 --> 0:48:14.520
<v Speaker 17>had parades, they had they had all sorts of events

0:48:14.600 --> 0:48:17.239
<v Speaker 17>because you know, hey, we gotta we have an uh,

0:48:17.880 --> 0:48:20.920
<v Speaker 17>we have a hometown guy, you know, on the national stage.

0:48:21.320 --> 0:48:22.800
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, but yeah.

0:48:22.640 --> 0:48:25.719
<v Speaker 16>You probably both on all three with the third one

0:48:25.719 --> 0:48:26.959
<v Speaker 16>that we offered as well.

0:48:27.200 --> 0:48:29.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, listen, it probably didn't hurt, let's be honest.

0:48:30.600 --> 0:48:32.640
<v Speaker 2>But you know, I'm reading his bio.

0:48:32.440 --> 0:48:34.759
<v Speaker 14>Right, I'm surprised she didn't choose like a Somali though.

0:48:36.680 --> 0:48:38.640
<v Speaker 2>No, they already got that vote on lockdown. You think

0:48:38.640 --> 0:48:41.879
<v Speaker 2>the Somalis are at risk now with the Republicans going

0:48:41.920 --> 0:48:43.400
<v Speaker 2>after him, trying to get the fraud and try to

0:48:43.440 --> 0:48:46.720
<v Speaker 2>retort over there. They know who butters their bread. Okay,

0:48:46.840 --> 0:48:48.799
<v Speaker 2>the Somalis are on lock and they vote in the

0:48:48.840 --> 0:48:50.960
<v Speaker 2>block by the way, so they don't need to play

0:48:50.960 --> 0:48:54.000
<v Speaker 2>to that. They need to play to the skeptical white

0:48:54.120 --> 0:48:56.319
<v Speaker 2>rural voters who think they've been taken for a ride,

0:48:56.360 --> 0:48:58.879
<v Speaker 2>which they have. Uh, you know in this guy he's

0:48:58.880 --> 0:49:01.960
<v Speaker 2>got I mean, listen, Admittedly, they've they've been married a

0:49:01.960 --> 0:49:04.040
<v Speaker 2>long time, they have five children. They own and operate

0:49:04.080 --> 0:49:07.360
<v Speaker 2>two small businesses in downtown Fergus Falls Union Pizza and

0:49:07.400 --> 0:49:11.120
<v Speaker 2>Brewing Company and Toast, which I think is another sort

0:49:11.120 --> 0:49:13.719
<v Speaker 2>of restaurant. So he's been the mayor. I mean, it's

0:49:13.760 --> 0:49:15.600
<v Speaker 2>a good it's a good bio. It kind of rounds

0:49:15.600 --> 0:49:18.760
<v Speaker 2>out her her her ticket. So whatever.

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<v Speaker 16>Okay, but let's ask you guys the debate we were

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<v Speaker 16>just having with this upcoming race. Are you thinking of

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<v Speaker 16>voting early, dropping off your ballot.

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<v Speaker 2>Day of Well, they're in North Carolina.

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<v Speaker 11>For residents of North Carolina.

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<v Speaker 16>Yeah never mind then yeah, yeah, well they haven't.

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<v Speaker 14>They have a Senate race.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Whatley versus what's his name? Cooper? We're gonna need

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<v Speaker 2>all the Yeah, so yeah, vote early, vote often. I'm kidding, uh,

0:49:46.360 --> 0:49:49.000
<v Speaker 2>but yeah, Watley's got a heck of an uphill battle.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't heard a ton of good news out of

0:49:52.480 --> 0:49:55.960
<v Speaker 2>that race, unfortunately. And that's North Carolina. North Carolina is

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<v Speaker 2>a funny red state in the sense that it has

0:49:58.960 --> 0:50:02.799
<v Speaker 2>a lot of you know, I think it's like a

0:50:02.840 --> 0:50:09.520
<v Speaker 2>Democrat governor, Democrat attorney general. Trump won it all three times,

0:50:09.719 --> 0:50:12.520
<v Speaker 2>but it does. It's just a funny, funny state. New

0:50:12.520 --> 0:50:15.200
<v Speaker 2>Hampshire's kind of like that where you get to Kentucky, Yeah,

0:50:15.360 --> 0:50:17.680
<v Speaker 2>where you get kind of a mix. New Hampshire's the

0:50:17.719 --> 0:50:19.960
<v Speaker 2>inverse though, where it's like, locally you get a bunch

0:50:20.000 --> 0:50:25.040
<v Speaker 2>of red representation, federally you get blue. So Anyways, thank

0:50:25.120 --> 0:50:27.040
<v Speaker 2>you Caleb and Michelle God bless you. Great to hear

0:50:27.080 --> 0:50:31.000
<v Speaker 2>from you again. Who's up next, Ellie, Ellie, Welcome to

0:50:31.040 --> 0:50:31.959
<v Speaker 2>the Charlie Kirk Show.

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<v Speaker 9>Hey, guys, thanks for taking my question.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 9>My question would be what would you say to someone

0:50:39.840 --> 0:50:42.600
<v Speaker 9>who really wants to travel to Amfest this year but

0:50:42.760 --> 0:50:45.160
<v Speaker 9>has never been to a turning point event before?

0:50:45.520 --> 0:50:47.640
<v Speaker 2>Are you planning on? Are you thinking about it?

0:50:48.320 --> 0:50:51.680
<v Speaker 9>I want to, but it's it would be expensive to

0:50:51.760 --> 0:50:54.120
<v Speaker 9>travel from where I live, and so I'm just kind

0:50:54.200 --> 0:50:56.160
<v Speaker 9>of like trying to feel everything out.

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<v Speaker 2>What part of the country are you in? You can

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<v Speaker 2>be vague.

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<v Speaker 9>I'm from Illinois.

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<v Speaker 2>Illinois. Oh, come on, there's a you know, I guess

0:51:02.880 --> 0:51:06.480
<v Speaker 2>if you're in southern Illinois, it's tough. You'd have to

0:51:06.520 --> 0:51:08.480
<v Speaker 2>like the Saint Louis or drive up to Chicago, but

0:51:08.480 --> 0:51:09.320
<v Speaker 2>there's direct flights.

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<v Speaker 16>Wait, how old are you, Ellie, I'm twenty two. Okay.

0:51:13.280 --> 0:51:17.200
<v Speaker 16>I think that you should totally come because there there

0:51:17.239 --> 0:51:19.960
<v Speaker 16>are so many young people that come and meet each other.

0:51:19.960 --> 0:51:21.600
<v Speaker 16>There are lots of events so you can get to

0:51:21.640 --> 0:51:23.640
<v Speaker 16>know people that are like minded.

0:51:23.840 --> 0:51:28.680
<v Speaker 18>Social hours, yes, breakouts, there's it's really it's a great

0:51:28.680 --> 0:51:32.520
<v Speaker 18>event for all ages, but I would say the young

0:51:32.560 --> 0:51:36.560
<v Speaker 18>people that show up and support make friendships that last forever.

0:51:36.600 --> 0:51:39.839
<v Speaker 16>There's so many cool experiences, Boots. You can visit and

0:51:40.239 --> 0:51:43.120
<v Speaker 16>you know, we do podcasts there, and yeah, I think

0:51:43.160 --> 0:51:45.640
<v Speaker 16>you would have a really great time. I yeah, am biased,

0:51:45.640 --> 0:51:46.239
<v Speaker 16>but I have fun.

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<v Speaker 2>It will blow your mind. There's no event really like

0:51:50.200 --> 0:51:52.480
<v Speaker 2>it in the country. You walk in and it's kind

0:51:52.480 --> 0:51:55.839
<v Speaker 2>of like visual overload and there's all the media row

0:51:56.040 --> 0:52:00.359
<v Speaker 2>and people doing interviews and it's so much fun. And

0:52:00.600 --> 0:52:02.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm not a guy that really actually likes events, but

0:52:04.000 --> 0:52:08.279
<v Speaker 2>it's a lot of fun, and we think you should come.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, there's not really a good excuse besides the money,

0:52:11.120 --> 0:52:13.279
<v Speaker 2>but we like, I don't know if I.

0:52:13.280 --> 0:52:16.000
<v Speaker 16>Can be there having contractions at thirty nine weeks pregnant,

0:52:16.080 --> 0:52:16.680
<v Speaker 16>you can come.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a compelling point.

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<v Speaker 16>Jeez, guilt tripper, We'll see you there, Ellie.

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<v Speaker 2>Good conversation is about respect. It's how we create a

0:52:28.200 --> 0:52:30.440
<v Speaker 2>space where people are able to share their ideas and

0:52:30.480 --> 0:52:33.480
<v Speaker 2>be heard. Charlie knew that Turning Point still knows that,

0:52:33.520 --> 0:52:36.360
<v Speaker 2>and TikTok has always strived to build the kind of

0:52:36.360 --> 0:52:40.440
<v Speaker 2>place that thrives on respectful connection, where Curiosity fuels connection,

0:52:40.520 --> 0:52:42.359
<v Speaker 2>and we can share what's on our minds and learn

0:52:42.400 --> 0:52:45.520
<v Speaker 2>from each other. When ideas meet respect, good things happen.

0:52:45.600 --> 0:52:48.479
<v Speaker 2>On TikTok. You can find a mechanic explaining the why

0:52:48.520 --> 0:52:50.359
<v Speaker 2>behind a problem most of us wouldn't even know how

0:52:50.400 --> 0:52:53.560
<v Speaker 2>to name, or a father sharing a lifetime of knowledge

0:52:53.560 --> 0:52:56.480
<v Speaker 2>with his viewers. Viewers who listen discuss, and then they respond.

0:52:56.880 --> 0:53:00.880
<v Speaker 2>TikTok turns connection into community through small apps of understanding.

0:53:00.880 --> 0:53:02.799
<v Speaker 2>You can feel it in the comments and the thank

0:53:02.840 --> 0:53:05.920
<v Speaker 2>you from a stranger halfway across the world. TikTok is

0:53:05.960 --> 0:53:08.759
<v Speaker 2>a place where respect opens the door for discussion, and

0:53:08.840 --> 0:53:17.000
<v Speaker 2>discussion helps us build something real. All right, who's next, Kyrie? Kyrie,

0:53:17.120 --> 0:53:18.799
<v Speaker 2>Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey guys, Happy Friday. It's good to see you all

0:53:22.360 --> 0:53:26.399
<v Speaker 4>and get to talk to you again. Yeah, real, real quick. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>I have the opportunity, Daisy, I absolutely love your eyes.

0:53:29.880 --> 0:53:33.560
<v Speaker 16>They're gorgeous and I think I'm glad. I'm glad you're

0:53:33.600 --> 0:53:35.240
<v Speaker 16>on this show today, so I can tell you that

0:53:35.160 --> 0:53:36.799
<v Speaker 16>that is so nice of you. Thank you.

0:53:38.680 --> 0:53:41.440
<v Speaker 4>Well, I've always been fascinated with eyes, and the first

0:53:41.440 --> 0:53:44.560
<v Speaker 4>time I think you were on with no dumb questions

0:53:44.640 --> 0:53:45.520
<v Speaker 4>or something maybe and I was.

0:53:45.440 --> 0:53:49.719
<v Speaker 16>Like, oh, Jasey's eyes are gorgeous. Anyway, thank you.

0:53:49.760 --> 0:53:55.960
<v Speaker 4>My main question with the Carmel Anthony Austin Mattcalf thing

0:53:56.080 --> 0:54:01.640
<v Speaker 4>this week, I mean, to me, it seems pretty pretty

0:54:01.640 --> 0:54:05.120
<v Speaker 4>cut and dry. I work at a small shop in

0:54:05.200 --> 0:54:09.480
<v Speaker 4>a small town. We have like six employees. One of

0:54:09.520 --> 0:54:13.760
<v Speaker 4>them is black. I consider her a friend. We've always

0:54:13.760 --> 0:54:17.920
<v Speaker 4>been on good terms. She's a Christian lady. She had

0:54:17.960 --> 0:54:22.520
<v Speaker 4>not even heard about this story until Wednesday. One of

0:54:22.520 --> 0:54:24.680
<v Speaker 4>my other coworkers was talking about it and she was like,

0:54:24.719 --> 0:54:27.680
<v Speaker 4>oh my, what's this, and oh, well, this one boy

0:54:27.760 --> 0:54:30.399
<v Speaker 4>stabbed this other boy and oh that's horrible. Well then

0:54:30.440 --> 0:54:33.080
<v Speaker 4>when she found out that one of the boys was black,

0:54:33.400 --> 0:54:37.320
<v Speaker 4>she immediately took his side, began making excuses for probably

0:54:37.320 --> 0:54:39.760
<v Speaker 4>why he did it. The other boy was probably saying

0:54:39.800 --> 0:54:42.680
<v Speaker 4>something racist to him. Some people don't even know they're racist,

0:54:42.719 --> 0:54:46.520
<v Speaker 4>it's just the way they're raised. And she got she

0:54:46.600 --> 0:54:51.440
<v Speaker 4>got kind of antagonistic, and she said, if she got

0:54:51.440 --> 0:54:53.000
<v Speaker 4>to looking on her phone, she said, oh, there weren't

0:54:53.040 --> 0:54:55.719
<v Speaker 4>even any black people on the jury that tried him.

0:54:55.760 --> 0:55:01.279
<v Speaker 4>And I didn't know enough about the details to come

0:55:01.320 --> 0:55:04.239
<v Speaker 4>back with facts. But I was I was so caught

0:55:04.280 --> 0:55:09.120
<v Speaker 4>off guard I got. I mean, I would love to

0:55:09.640 --> 0:55:10.960
<v Speaker 4>keep this lady as a friend.

0:55:12.440 --> 0:55:13.240
<v Speaker 16>We work together.

0:55:13.600 --> 0:55:18.280
<v Speaker 4>You know, I have been careful. I know she voted

0:55:18.280 --> 0:55:22.560
<v Speaker 4>for Kamala Harris, but we've always you know, there's always

0:55:22.600 --> 0:55:25.400
<v Speaker 4>been a good, a good relationship there at the shop.

0:55:27.239 --> 0:55:31.560
<v Speaker 4>And I was just so so hurt, you know, I

0:55:31.800 --> 0:55:37.520
<v Speaker 4>I want to I'm not great at remembering, remembering facts

0:55:37.520 --> 0:55:40.760
<v Speaker 4>and talking points and coming back to people and thinking

0:55:40.800 --> 0:55:43.920
<v Speaker 4>fast on my feet, but I really would like to

0:55:45.320 --> 0:55:48.520
<v Speaker 4>know if you all have have some tips something I

0:55:48.520 --> 0:55:51.400
<v Speaker 4>can say to this lady, because I I really I

0:55:51.480 --> 0:55:54.319
<v Speaker 4>it breaks my heart when I see people online that

0:55:54.960 --> 0:55:57.800
<v Speaker 4>you don't you know, don't know any better. But she's

0:55:57.840 --> 0:55:59.960
<v Speaker 4>she's so smart and like I said, she's a Christian

0:56:00.320 --> 0:56:03.360
<v Speaker 4>and so nice. It just seems so obvious. I mean, this.

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<v Speaker 2>Boy, you chopping at the bit here.

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<v Speaker 14>No, it's more so just like I remember Charlie always said,

0:56:10.280 --> 0:56:12.880
<v Speaker 14>like intentions don't matter when committing a crime. Like just

0:56:12.920 --> 0:56:15.120
<v Speaker 14>because you're poor doesn't mean you can go rob a bank.

0:56:15.560 --> 0:56:18.680
<v Speaker 14>Just because someone may like anger you at a track

0:56:18.760 --> 0:56:21.600
<v Speaker 14>meet doesn't mean that you then get to stab somebody.

0:56:21.840 --> 0:56:24.400
<v Speaker 14>So I just ask her that and basically say, like,

0:56:24.560 --> 0:56:26.279
<v Speaker 14>take race out of it, because that has nothing to

0:56:26.280 --> 0:56:30.240
<v Speaker 14>do with it. Why does somebody Why are you siding

0:56:30.280 --> 0:56:31.840
<v Speaker 14>with somebody that literally just murdered?

0:56:31.960 --> 0:56:34.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and why are we making this young man the victim.

0:56:34.880 --> 0:56:38.839
<v Speaker 2>Austin Metcalf is the victim. He is dead. He got

0:56:38.880 --> 0:56:43.240
<v Speaker 2>a life sentence here. Okay, you know, Carmelo, Anthony's probably

0:56:43.280 --> 0:56:45.840
<v Speaker 2>gonna be out in parole. Let's say in ten years. Okay,

0:56:46.400 --> 0:56:48.600
<v Speaker 2>you got thirty five year sentence. He's not gonna serve

0:56:48.640 --> 0:56:51.560
<v Speaker 2>all that. So you do have to hold people accountable

0:56:51.560 --> 0:56:53.920
<v Speaker 2>when they do bad things. Okay, this was a terrible,

0:56:54.040 --> 0:56:58.440
<v Speaker 2>egregious thing that has wrecked that family, wrecked his twin brother.

0:56:58.840 --> 0:57:00.200
<v Speaker 2>The other thing I would tell you is that you

0:57:00.239 --> 0:57:01.960
<v Speaker 2>got to check out Sarah Fields. We had her on

0:57:01.960 --> 0:57:05.840
<v Speaker 2>the show yesterday. Check out her Twitter x feed. She

0:57:05.960 --> 0:57:09.719
<v Speaker 2>was in the courthouse during the trial. She heard all

0:57:09.760 --> 0:57:13.840
<v Speaker 2>the witness testimony. Carmela was asked to leave upwards of

0:57:13.880 --> 0:57:19.600
<v Speaker 2>fifteen times, according to witness accounts, asked politely and then aggressively. Probably,

0:57:20.200 --> 0:57:23.280
<v Speaker 2>but that doesn't mean that he deserved to die. That

0:57:23.320 --> 0:57:28.240
<v Speaker 2>Austin Metcalf deserved to die. He eventually was told to leave.

0:57:28.320 --> 0:57:30.080
<v Speaker 2>He wasn't under his own tent. I don't know why

0:57:30.120 --> 0:57:33.400
<v Speaker 2>he was so intent on being under there. But then

0:57:33.440 --> 0:57:36.320
<v Speaker 2>it was a slight shove instantly killed him, instantly stabbed

0:57:36.400 --> 0:57:37.000
<v Speaker 2>him right through the heart.

0:57:37.200 --> 0:57:39.560
<v Speaker 14>And you can also ask your friend just a simple

0:57:39.640 --> 0:57:41.400
<v Speaker 14>question of why do you think it was right that

0:57:42.200 --> 0:57:45.280
<v Speaker 14>Carmelo Anthy was carrying this knife around at this track

0:57:45.360 --> 0:57:47.720
<v Speaker 14>mate and so easily willing to just pull it out

0:57:47.760 --> 0:57:48.959
<v Speaker 14>and stab somebody right away?

0:57:49.080 --> 0:57:51.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? He did, by the way, if he was just

0:57:51.160 --> 0:57:54.800
<v Speaker 2>trying to get free from this really aggressive group, which

0:57:54.840 --> 0:57:58.120
<v Speaker 2>doesn't sound like it was aggressive at all, why why

0:57:58.160 --> 0:57:59.840
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't you just pull it out and say, don't mess

0:57:59.880 --> 0:58:02.680
<v Speaker 2>with me? No, he pulled it out, and he kept saying,

0:58:02.720 --> 0:58:04.840
<v Speaker 2>do you you touched me? And find out you touched me?

0:58:04.840 --> 0:58:07.160
<v Speaker 2>And find out? And then he just literally, you know,

0:58:07.560 --> 0:58:10.720
<v Speaker 2>shived him right in the heart, cut him so deep

0:58:10.720 --> 0:58:13.000
<v Speaker 2>that it cut through the bone and cut his heart.

0:58:13.040 --> 0:58:17.480
<v Speaker 2>He bled to death instantly in his brother's arms. Like

0:58:17.480 --> 0:58:19.240
<v Speaker 2>this should have I mean, at the very worst, this

0:58:19.280 --> 0:58:21.600
<v Speaker 2>should have been a little like fistfight at a high

0:58:21.640 --> 0:58:25.000
<v Speaker 2>school fistfight which happens. Boys are gonna fight sometimes, but

0:58:25.040 --> 0:58:29.040
<v Speaker 2>you don't. You don't pull out a knife instantly, you know,

0:58:29.800 --> 0:58:30.560
<v Speaker 2>murder somebody.

0:58:30.640 --> 0:58:33.760
<v Speaker 14>And there's a broader problem here, the fact that like

0:58:33.840 --> 0:58:36.880
<v Speaker 14>the media and the Democrats are brainwashing black people in

0:58:36.920 --> 0:58:39.480
<v Speaker 14>this country so badly to think that when yeah, a

0:58:39.600 --> 0:58:42.000
<v Speaker 14>murder happens, you don't know the details, you side with

0:58:42.040 --> 0:58:45.280
<v Speaker 14>obviously common sense. The person that murdered somebody's obviously in

0:58:45.320 --> 0:58:47.840
<v Speaker 14>the wrong. But then you find out they're black, And

0:58:47.880 --> 0:58:50.920
<v Speaker 14>because you're brainwashed so badly, you then think the black

0:58:50.920 --> 0:58:54.160
<v Speaker 14>person has to be the victim, even though they literally

0:58:54.240 --> 0:58:57.400
<v Speaker 14>were the murderer and killed a victim. Yeah, and so

0:58:57.520 --> 0:58:59.560
<v Speaker 14>there's a broader problem here, and we see this with

0:58:59.600 --> 0:59:02.520
<v Speaker 14>the bl but it's still even though BLM is calmed down,

0:59:02.800 --> 0:59:05.480
<v Speaker 14>we still see this among black people. The damage really

0:59:05.560 --> 0:59:08.360
<v Speaker 14>is already done, and it's already baked in the cake

0:59:09.000 --> 0:59:11.600
<v Speaker 14>that they really the victim mentality is a real problem

0:59:11.680 --> 0:59:12.000
<v Speaker 14>right now.

0:59:12.120 --> 0:59:14.280
<v Speaker 16>Yeah, you will be you will be miserable if you

0:59:14.320 --> 0:59:16.520
<v Speaker 16>are constantly a victim. And like you said, it's so

0:59:16.920 --> 0:59:19.400
<v Speaker 16>obvious to read this story and hear about it and

0:59:19.440 --> 0:59:21.720
<v Speaker 16>know what happened. But like you said, you do want

0:59:21.760 --> 0:59:24.000
<v Speaker 16>to keep your friend, like you believe this person is

0:59:24.320 --> 0:59:27.920
<v Speaker 16>well intentioned, and it is. It can be kind of

0:59:27.920 --> 0:59:29.760
<v Speaker 16>ebrasive to go back to someone and be like, well, actually,

0:59:29.800 --> 0:59:32.360
<v Speaker 16>here's what happened. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight.

0:59:32.400 --> 0:59:35.040
<v Speaker 16>We have all these facts. But as a friend, I

0:59:35.040 --> 0:59:38.000
<v Speaker 16>would go back to her and be like, hey, have

0:59:38.080 --> 0:59:41.280
<v Speaker 16>you heard this? What does this make you think? Is

0:59:41.320 --> 0:59:44.760
<v Speaker 16>this right versus wrong? And just try to encourage your

0:59:44.760 --> 0:59:46.840
<v Speaker 16>friend to step out of that victim mentality, because you

0:59:46.840 --> 0:59:48.520
<v Speaker 16>don't want your friend to be miserable like that. You

0:59:48.560 --> 0:59:50.960
<v Speaker 16>don't want your friend to always assume that just because

0:59:50.960 --> 0:59:54.680
<v Speaker 16>someone's black, they are right in this situation. So I

0:59:54.720 --> 0:59:56.000
<v Speaker 16>think it's worth having another one.

0:59:56.360 --> 0:59:59.000
<v Speaker 2>Just because somebody's black, they're the victim. You know, there

0:59:59.040 --> 1:00:01.400
<v Speaker 2>were there was a jury pool, so they got this

1:00:01.520 --> 1:00:03.560
<v Speaker 2>just you know how this works. So the jury pool

1:00:03.560 --> 1:00:05.680
<v Speaker 2>of five hundred and eighty nine people was narrowed down

1:00:05.720 --> 1:00:09.560
<v Speaker 2>to twelve juror jurors and six alternates. No black jurors

1:00:09.680 --> 1:00:12.200
<v Speaker 2>ended up on the final panel. That parts true, But

1:00:12.280 --> 1:00:15.200
<v Speaker 2>apparently there was like three qualified that made it through

1:00:15.240 --> 1:00:19.800
<v Speaker 2>all the other steps and they were rejected for reasons

1:00:19.880 --> 1:00:23.280
<v Speaker 2>like they were educators, and that is apparently fair to do.

1:00:24.000 --> 1:00:26.560
<v Speaker 2>And there was other black folks that were trying to

1:00:26.560 --> 1:00:28.560
<v Speaker 2>get on the jury that said, I don't think I

1:00:28.680 --> 1:00:32.280
<v Speaker 2>can I don't think I can condemn a young black man.

1:00:32.600 --> 1:00:34.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't think I can find him guilty, And they

1:00:34.880 --> 1:00:38.080
<v Speaker 2>were rightly dismissed because you can't have a jury if

1:00:38.520 --> 1:00:40.680
<v Speaker 2>they're just going to vote along tribal lines. That's not

1:00:40.720 --> 1:00:43.160
<v Speaker 2>what it's about. It's about you have to assess the

1:00:43.200 --> 1:00:46.640
<v Speaker 2>facts and then make a determination of guilt or innocence

1:00:46.680 --> 1:00:49.600
<v Speaker 2>based on the facts. That's what a jury does. And

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<v Speaker 2>if you're not able to do that, then that's a problem.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's just so much misinformation, by the way, going

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<v Speaker 2>on around social media about he was self defense, that

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<v Speaker 2>Austin metcap Basic impaled himself when you you know, came out. No,

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<v Speaker 2>all of those facts are are complete misinformation, disinformation being

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<v Speaker 2>spread around on the internet. I can tell you somebody

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<v Speaker 2>who's dealt with a lot of this lately. It's wild.

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<v Speaker 2>It just runs rampant, and people just you know, say

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<v Speaker 2>fake things and lies. Yeah, and then all of a

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<v Speaker 2>sudden people believe it. So I think I think today's

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<v Speaker 2>these points sounds like this guy was a really sweet person.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's assume the best. By the way, there's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of black people on social media that are saying

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<v Speaker 2>really good things actually, and most of them tend to

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<v Speaker 2>be Christians, and they're they're pushing back against this narrative.

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<v Speaker 2>So so maybe find some of those clips and share

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<v Speaker 2>them with your friend if it feels appropriate. But you

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<v Speaker 2>are living proof that her victim mentality or this this

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<v Speaker 2>instant instinct to assume guilt or that wrongdoing on the

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<v Speaker 2>half on behalf of the jurors or the prosecution or

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<v Speaker 2>the judge. You're living proof you you is this your store,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, that you own, or you're just another

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<v Speaker 2>person that works there.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I'm an employee. There's the boss and the bass daughter,

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<v Speaker 4>and then like four others of us.

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<v Speaker 2>Are they white? Yes, everybody listen. They hired her and

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<v Speaker 2>they love her and they treat her well. There there's

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<v Speaker 2>no there's no there's no issue there. You guys are

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<v Speaker 2>the living embodiment that this racial strife and animosity doesn't exist,

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<v Speaker 2>that that that that she doesn't need to feel instantly victimized.

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<v Speaker 2>So I just say, you be the living proof that

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<v Speaker 2>that we don't have to live this way, We don't

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<v Speaker 2>have to be at each other all the time attacking

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<v Speaker 2>each other just because of the color of their skin.

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<v Speaker 2>So thank you for your question.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, thank you guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that is? Is that helpful? Hopefully? Hopefully that was good.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean it reaffirmed some of what I was already thinking.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know that it's going to be really easy

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<v Speaker 4>to get her in a place where the others aren't around,

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<v Speaker 4>because I don't want her to feel like she's being

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<v Speaker 4>ganged up on. The Others of us feel the same way,

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<v Speaker 4>but she doesn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but maybe maybe you don't need to do the

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<v Speaker 2>conversation like tomorrow. Maybe it's a month from now, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>when the tensions are less.

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<v Speaker 16>And I think just ask good questions and your role

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<v Speaker 16>as a friend is just to help her think through

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<v Speaker 16>these things critically and just.

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<v Speaker 2>Let her know that you're her friend. Yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's cool. For two hundred and fifty years, America has

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<v Speaker 2>I want to know this. I want this question from Gina. Gina,

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<v Speaker 2>welcome to the show. What is your question?

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<v Speaker 19>Well, I sort of thought your enthusiasm was telling, and

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<v Speaker 19>we said I hope somebody asks about this, tell us,

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<v Speaker 19>tell us about what happened.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, so here's what happened. So cafeteria workers there, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's the janitor, the janitors, all this stuff. So what

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<v Speaker 2>Elon Musk is done. So when you're starting a company,

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<v Speaker 2>cash flow is really tough, right, you gotta keep the

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<v Speaker 2>money coming in. And so what he did for a

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<v Speaker 2>long time now he's been offering sort of below markets.

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<v Speaker 2>You get paid a little bit less to do jobs, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and they have fully integrated their cafeteria so it's not

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<v Speaker 2>like an out outside company. They these are actual SpaceX employees,

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<v Speaker 2>like cafeteria cooks, janitors, all this stuff. And in exchange

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<v Speaker 2>for taking a little bit less, they get stock options.

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<v Speaker 2>They get this really kind of broad equity sharing model

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<v Speaker 2>within SpaceX. And so all the cafeteria workers are basically

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<v Speaker 2>anybody that took advantage of those stock options, which I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure is gonna be the vast majority of them, because

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<v Speaker 2>you it was an obvious call. They're all millionaires now,

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<v Speaker 2>which is amazing, So I mean a lot of them.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably we're able to exercise these options. Look probably around

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<v Speaker 2>like twenty to thirty bucks. And now the stock is

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<v Speaker 2>trading a what like right now, it's like one seventy

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<v Speaker 2>one seventy So even if they had a pretty small

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<v Speaker 2>amount of stock, they just made a lot of money.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, estimates having at about four four hundred current

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<v Speaker 2>and former SpaceX employees will become millionaires from the IPO.

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<v Speaker 2>And this group explicitly includes cafeteria workers and other hourly

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<v Speaker 2>in support staff, so that is unusual, just to be clear,

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<v Speaker 2>in the space normally these people don't get stock options.

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<v Speaker 2>You give stock options to like you know, your your managers,

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<v Speaker 2>your you know your contracts, when you when you do

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<v Speaker 2>a contract with an actual salary employee, you get stock

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<v Speaker 2>options a part of that that package. Nope, not in

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<v Speaker 2>Elon's world. So I just think it's great because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>everybody goes out, you know AOCT, the tax the rich,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, too many billionaires. Elon's evil all this stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Well guess what, the way he runs his companies is

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<v Speaker 2>brilliant because they works.

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<v Speaker 14>Capitalism creates more wealth and socialism just takes people's wealth.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, and they have a problem with Elon's a

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<v Speaker 2>builder and he makes things and I love it. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a big fan. So here's to you SpaceX cafeteria

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<v Speaker 2>working millionaires. Good on you. That is the American dream,

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<v Speaker 2>changing lives, changing lots of lives. Yeah, and the stocks

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<v Speaker 2>just rip roaring. I mean, I don't know, might crash

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<v Speaker 2>a bit or come back down to earth, which is

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<v Speaker 2>a good SpaceX expression. But yes, I am. I love

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<v Speaker 2>that story. What's our what's our next one? Kathy Rose,

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<v Speaker 2>Kathy Rose, Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. I'm meet yourself.

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<v Speaker 11>Thank you, Andrew, thank you for having me. And God

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<v Speaker 11>bless you all.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, God bless you too.

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<v Speaker 11>Thank you, Yes, thank you. My question is how can

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<v Speaker 11>I talk with friends who are very, very politically disengaged,

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<v Speaker 11>even though they're super conservative. I've grown up and been

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<v Speaker 11>very blessed to be surrounded by a very close knit

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<v Speaker 11>Christian community. We've all been at the same church since

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<v Speaker 11>we were babies, worked at the same companies, everything. But

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<v Speaker 11>I think kind of in part because of that, we

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<v Speaker 11>are so insulated from everything that goes on outside that

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<v Speaker 11>if I that, like, Nope, none of my friends would

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<v Speaker 11>even know that transgender maybe even as a thing, except

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<v Speaker 11>where we see these weird like blue haired, funny looking

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<v Speaker 11>people in Olympia, Washington. None of my friends would ever

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<v Speaker 11>consider anything like an abortion. But then over the last year,

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<v Speaker 11>like ever since President Trump watched his twenty twenty four campaign.

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<v Speaker 11>I don't even really remember why, but I started really

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<v Speaker 11>getting into it, and then watching Charlie's videos, I was like, WHOA,

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<v Speaker 11>this is really important, what is going on with our country?

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<v Speaker 11>But when I talk with my friends about it, they're like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 11>I don't really care about that at all, and so

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<v Speaker 11>I just want to I'm like, hmm, how do I

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<v Speaker 11>talk with them without just coming across like oh, this

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<v Speaker 11>says Kathy Rose's spiel and actually really genuinely catch their attention.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you are, you're basically it sounds like you're dealing

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<v Speaker 2>with low propensity voter problem, which is what we do

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<v Speaker 2>over a turning point action, right, So our whole, our

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<v Speaker 2>whole program is designed to get you and your friends

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<v Speaker 2>out to vote because we know that you're ideologically aligned,

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<v Speaker 2>that you believe all the same stuff, but for some

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<v Speaker 2>reason you are disengaged. And by the way, there's I

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<v Speaker 2>think about twenty five percent of evangelical voters in the

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<v Speaker 2>country don't even vote. So it sounds like this is

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<v Speaker 2>your friend group, which yep, it's not good because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>especially you know they used to say this all the

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<v Speaker 2>time in the Pulpits like, don't politicize my Christianity, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>don't don't politicize my religious experience. Well guess what your

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<v Speaker 2>politics is getting more religious? They're talking about it is

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<v Speaker 2>the very foundation of God's design for male and female.

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<v Speaker 2>So you you have to bring these things home. So

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<v Speaker 2>what we do is we basically in a nice way,

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<v Speaker 2>and I have to watch when these things get clipped

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<v Speaker 2>in a nice way, harass your friends, because that's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of what we do when we do chase the vote.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, here's a text, Hey have you got your

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<v Speaker 2>ballot in? Hey have you filled it out? Can I

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<v Speaker 2>come help you fill it out? Can I help come

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<v Speaker 2>help help you drop it off? Can we do? And

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<v Speaker 2>then we bring cookies and we do we do, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>barbecues in the park, and you build up something called

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<v Speaker 2>social guilt. It's actually a thing that they've studied where

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes time to vote, they feel kind of

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<v Speaker 2>obligated because you've been so devoted to getting them nicely,

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<v Speaker 2>nicely again, very you want you want to be like

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<v Speaker 2>kind of the mayor of when it comes to this,

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<v Speaker 2>you've been nicely encouraging them nicely, reminding them nicely, and

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<v Speaker 2>telling them about how important it is to get engaged

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<v Speaker 2>in your civic process, and so when it comes time

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<v Speaker 2>to vote, they feel an obligation to sort of make

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<v Speaker 2>you happy and kind of make good on their end

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<v Speaker 2>of the meal. So that's what I would say, chase

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<v Speaker 2>the vote.

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<v Speaker 16>We really happily have to get to the next question.

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<v Speaker 16>But I do just want to say that goes back

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<v Speaker 16>to the conversation we're having with Kyrie about so much

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<v Speaker 16>being a good friend is asking them questions and forcing

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<v Speaker 16>them to think about these things. Because when we all

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<v Speaker 16>have common sense and think of right versus wrong, it's

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<v Speaker 16>easy to think, oh, this is obviously right. Everyone must

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<v Speaker 16>think this way. So you might need to get them

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<v Speaker 16>more theologically engaged and understand what's happening by just asking

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<v Speaker 16>them questions. Okay, we want to read mix Nick said.

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<v Speaker 16>I had a very liberal family member in town asked

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<v Speaker 16>me why I was still on the Trump train. I

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<v Speaker 16>explained to her that I have my frustrations with the ADMIN,

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<v Speaker 16>but I would still vote for him. But I warned

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<v Speaker 16>her the off ramp for young guys like me is

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<v Speaker 16>to the very far right, with Iran. How do we

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<v Speaker 16>communicate to the admin that we need to wrap this

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<v Speaker 16>up well, so keeping the young guns from veering into

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<v Speaker 16>more anti Semitic, accelerationist wing, that's.

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<v Speaker 2>A big question, Danny.

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<v Speaker 14>Thankfully it is wrapping up. But another thing is just

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<v Speaker 14>look at this morning with Telsey Gabbert, the winds and

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<v Speaker 14>stuff that would have never happened under a liberal administration,

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<v Speaker 14>and just you have to show them that stuff's actually

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<v Speaker 14>getting done. Look at the closed border. I mean, the

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<v Speaker 14>border is actually so good that they now just like,

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<v Speaker 14>don't even talk about it. It doesn't matter, it's fine. So

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<v Speaker 14>you really just need to keep showing people the wins

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<v Speaker 14>that we have.

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<v Speaker 2>And it could always be worse with Kamala Harris if

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<v Speaker 2>she was our president. Can you imagine we would have

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<v Speaker 2>lost the country. So, yeah, we lost thirteen service members,

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<v Speaker 2>a tragedy. This is not a forever war, and if

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<v Speaker 2>you get out of it when they don't have nukes,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not the worst thing. Ever. You gotta keep them

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<v Speaker 2>from diving into nihilism though. That's the key in this.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, jew hatescapegoating. Stuff's at dead end.

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<v Speaker 16>No black pilling, No black pilling.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't fight because we know we're gonna win. We

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<v Speaker 2>fight because it's the right thing to do. For more

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