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Speaker 1: Hi everybody, I'm Dennis Prager and as you probably know

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Speaker 1: by now, unless it's your first time, this is my

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Speaker 1: fireside chat, my fire my side, my dog, and very

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Speaker 1: rarely I have a guest.

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Speaker 3: So what I do.

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Speaker 1: It's a rather special person, as you will find out

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Speaker 1: in a moment, and Brandon Tatum is extremely well known,

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Speaker 1: which by the way, in and of itself doesn't mean anything.

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Speaker 1: As I've always said, the famous are rarely significant and

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Speaker 1: the significant are rarely famous. But he is famous and significant.

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Speaker 1: That's that's the point.

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Speaker 3: Thank you. I like that. I'm using it. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 3: just quote me. I will no, no, no, no, it's quite right.

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Speaker 3: I give you credit, promise.

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Speaker 1: So this is a former police officer in Tucson, Arizona. Correct,

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Speaker 1: that's where you were in the Tucson Police Force. And

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Speaker 1: you now produce your own video channel, your your own

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Speaker 1: video casts, podcasts. You're creating a channel about Auto. Is

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Speaker 1: very excited, by the way, because it is not used

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Speaker 1: to guests. It's usually just Auto and myself. But he

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Speaker 1: took a liking to you very much. I like him too,

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Speaker 1: you do.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you when he wakes up, I'll tell him. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: You're doing really magnificent work, which is why I want

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Speaker 1: the more and more people to know about you. So

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Speaker 1: I'm curious. Whenever I meet a black conservative, I have

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Speaker 1: a series of immediate questions. One is, how does your

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Speaker 3: Hmm, it's very interesting. You know my mom, she loves

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Speaker 3: my videos, my dad is I'm working on him. I'm

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Speaker 3: going down the path the conservatism. He cannot stand President

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Speaker 3: My immediate family, they're not really engaged in explaining to

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Speaker 3: it's mostly just my mom. Oh, so you're not getting flack.

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Speaker 3: They don't say it to my face. Now, I could

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Speaker 3: only imagine that you might be getting flack, but not

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Speaker 3: So I could imagine that they don't like what I

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Speaker 1: Given how much good let's talk pre COVID, Given how

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Speaker 3: I think it's emotionalism, right. I think a lot of

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Speaker 1: So people will go with emotions before their own job.

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Speaker 3: When I was eighteen. I was an All American football

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Speaker 1: Six million Jews were killed in the name of anti

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Speaker 3: One of my good friends have season tickets to the

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Speaker 3: they are not representing our country. Well, they're lying to

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Speaker 1: They're going to have Black Lives Matter painted on the

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Speaker 1: Orlando Magic for example. Can one imagine if some owner decided,

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Speaker 3: And the NFL is having players that are promising to kneel.

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Speaker 1: Well, okay, so here is my theory, and tell me

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Speaker 1: I have no idea if I'm right. So it's Drew

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Speaker 1: went from I just think we should honor our flag.

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Speaker 1: It's a it's a it's a symbol of our country.

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Speaker 1: I adore it to the next day. Boy was I wrong?

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Speaker 1: I now heard my fellow players, uh, agony, and boy

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Speaker 1: was I wrong. It is the best thing to kneel

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Speaker 1: said he Drew, you know, I'm sorry, but you don't.

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Speaker 1: that's what happened? Well, I think some of it. I

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Speaker 1: think Drew had the way as options. Do you want

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Speaker 1: to be a Hall of Famer or not? Do you

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Speaker 1: Because they're going to destroy you if you stand on

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Speaker 1: that principle. I listened to what he said, and what

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Speaker 3: Well in the Kingdom of God, man, there's no race.

435
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Speaker 3: That's right, We're all children of God. At the end

436
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Speaker 3: of the day, you're gonna go to judgment and God

437
00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,760
Speaker 3: is not gonna sit up there and say, well, you're black,

438
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Speaker 3: so you get a special privilege. You're gonna you're gonna

439
00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:38,240
Speaker 3: have affirmative It's not gonna happen up there, so you

440
00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:40,879
Speaker 3: might want to practice, you know, while you're here to

441
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 3: look at people. And that's what changed me was that

442
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:48,000
Speaker 3: when I got saved, I was baptized, I was filled

443
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,959
Speaker 3: with God's spirit, and all of that race stuff went

444
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,760
Speaker 3: out the window. I just let it go. I felt

445
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Speaker 3: like God healed my heart from even evaluating people based

446
00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:58,760
Speaker 3: on race, and it was more like, you know, we

447
00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,639
Speaker 3: all God's children, and I'm going to evaluate you on

448
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:05,120
Speaker 3: the fruits, evaluate you on your character. And I've been

449
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,439
Speaker 3: like that ever since, and I think that's made me

450
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:08,359
Speaker 3: successful in life.

451
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Speaker 1: What do you do with the charge that America is

452
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 1: a racist country, systemically racist, all whites are racist?

453
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Speaker 3: How do you process that? I think it's bs man.

454
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,159
Speaker 3: It makes me angry because I know a lot of

455
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,199
Speaker 3: white people that have been tremendously kind to me, and

456
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,600
Speaker 3: I don't have that same viewpoint, and I think it's

457
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,919
Speaker 3: cheap and people don't want to have real conversations, so

458
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 3: they blanket things as systemic, like they can't point out

459
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,360
Speaker 3: a racist person or racist institution. They can't point out

460
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:41,520
Speaker 3: the individuals so we can remove them. So what they

461
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,639
Speaker 3: say is systemic. It's something that we cannot find out,

462
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Speaker 3: and it can happen in perpetuity. I think it's a

463
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Speaker 3: cheap way of not having a real conversation about differences

464
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Speaker 3: or about things that can be improved. You know, as

465
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Speaker 3: a black man in this country for thirty three years,

466
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Speaker 3: and you know, I've never dealt with racism. I never

467
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 3: dealt with with any oppression. You know, everything that I've

468
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 3: gotten my life came from hard work and I've had

469
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Speaker 3: I never had anybody hold me back unless I was

470
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Speaker 3: holding myself back. The main person that can are the

471
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,879
Speaker 3: main oppression in this country, in my personal opinion, is

472
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,679
Speaker 3: in the mind and in your own behaviors. If you

473
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Speaker 3: want to live in a press life, you want to

474
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Speaker 3: you know, project that on other individuals, then go ahead.

475
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Speaker 3: But if you want to be successful, you got to

476
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Speaker 3: lead us, all right.

477
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Speaker 1: So I just got to ask, because this is a

478
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Speaker 1: pressing issue. Now you're living in a house, not an apartment, right, correct? Okay,

479
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Speaker 1: here it goes. Does your house have a master bedroom?

480
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Speaker 3: A master suite is what we as a master's And

481
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Speaker 3: I have never and not one minute you.

482
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Speaker 1: Don't find that invoking slavery imagery.

483
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Speaker 3: Not one minute have I cared. And you know, actually,

484
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Speaker 3: when we buy a house, and God bless us to

485
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Speaker 3: have a bigger house. I want an even bigger master.

486
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Speaker 3: That's what I want to tell these individuals.

487
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Speaker 1: I heard people talking about it, and is that unbelievable?

488
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Speaker 3: It's crazy? If no, no, I know, like, so my key,

489
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 3: the keys to my house, the one that's the main key,

490
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,199
Speaker 3: which is the master key. I mean, is that now?

491
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,200
Speaker 3: Is that going to be a problem? I mean, people

492
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Speaker 3: are They're becoming so ignorant.

493
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Speaker 1: Well, you know, I want to just bounce this off

494
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Speaker 1: of you. I think you'll enjoy this. This is I

495
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:25,399
Speaker 1: am working on arguments slash proofs that America is not

496
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Speaker 1: a racist Side've course there are a racist in that,

497
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Speaker 1: but it's not a racist society. And one of them

498
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 1: is if it were really racist, you wouldn't have to

499
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Speaker 1: make up nonsense, right right, right, the.

500
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Speaker 3: Nooses will be real, and two MAGA supporters beating up

501
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 3: a black man in Chicago will be a real happening.

502
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Speaker 3: Or even even these people mayors and governors who are

503
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Speaker 3: getting pulled over by policing and claiming things that are

504
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 3: not true at all. I mean, you shouldn't have to

505
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:52,159
Speaker 3: make it up. It should just be hitting you in

506
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Speaker 3: the face every day. But it's not true.

507
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Speaker 1: What's the what's the what is the driving while black?

508
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Speaker 1: What's the story on that? Have you been stopped disproportionately?

509
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 3: No? I haven't. And when I was a cop, I

510
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,440
Speaker 3: never stopped anybody just because of the color of their skin.

511
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 3: I mean, if you want to be honest, you can't

512
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Speaker 3: even see the color of somebody's scan when you're in

513
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Speaker 3: a patrol car. Thank you.

514
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:19,159
Speaker 1: I'm shaking because I argue this. I have tested myself.

515
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 1: Can I really have? While driving? Can I see the

516
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:27,200
Speaker 1: certainly behind officers come from behind? How can you possibly

517
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 1: know unless maybe saw I even check. Can I see

518
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Speaker 1: the person's race in the side view mirror? Well, first

519
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 1: of all, twelve hours a day when it's dark, you can't.

520
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,880
Speaker 1: There's not even a chance. But even then I can't

521
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Speaker 1: even make out most of the people as I passed them.

522
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Speaker 3: Right, I mean, because you got to think as a

523
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Speaker 3: police officer, you're not looking at the person as much

524
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Speaker 3: as you're looking at the violation, looking at other signs

525
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Speaker 3: and symptoms on a vehicle, or you're looking at the

526
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Speaker 3: license plate. I mean, the first thing you gotta do

527
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,119
Speaker 3: is you got to run the license plate your first,

528
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,639
Speaker 3: your eyes not going to the person is going to

529
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Speaker 3: the plate. Okay, everything is good. Driving behaviors. Are they good?

530
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 3: Are they bad? I mean, it doesn't benefit you to

531
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Speaker 3: pull somebody over just because of the color of the skin,

532
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 3: because anybody that have done any work or service knows

533
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 3: that you cannot paint everybody with a broad brush. If

534
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 3: you only put over a black people, you are missing

535
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 3: a tremendous amount of drugs, You are missing a tremendous

536
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 3: amount of UIs, and you're not going to be as successful.

537
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Speaker 1: By the way, for the record, for those on the

538
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 1: left monitoring all of my utterances, I do not deny

539
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 1: that on occasion there are indeed racist cops.

540
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:31,640
Speaker 3: Of course there are.

541
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Speaker 1: There are racist doctors, racist lawyers, racist plumbers, racist ballplayers.

542
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 1: There are bad people in every group. But that this

543
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:44,880
Speaker 1: is quote unquote systemic. It's just difficult to believe ipsel

544
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 1: fact though in the logic of itself, because it's not

545
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 1: easy to know the race of the driver. All right,

546
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:54,680
Speaker 1: I just wanted to bounce that off you. So imagine

547
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 1: you could speak to every young black in America for

548
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 1: half a minute or a minute, why would you say.

549
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 3: I would say, stop believing a lie. These people are

550
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 3: going to get you killed. You know, treat the police

551
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,119
Speaker 3: officer the way you want to be treated. If you

552
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:11,879
Speaker 3: don't want people paying you with a bra brush, you

553
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:15,679
Speaker 3: don't want individuals looking at you and projecting something on

554
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 3: you because of what another black man did, then don't

555
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 3: do that with the police officer. Give them a fair shape.

556
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 3: Because a person killed somebody in Minneapolis, that does not

557
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,399
Speaker 3: mean that the police officer is dealing with you today

558
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,479
Speaker 3: is here to kill you. Also, hold yourself accountable. First,

559
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 3: I don't want to hear any excuses. If you're going

560
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,120
Speaker 3: over the speed limit you get pulled over, I don't

561
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:35,919
Speaker 3: want to hear any excuses about you getting pulled over

562
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 3: harassed because you're black. If you're following the law, I'll

563
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 3: stick with you. But if you're breaking the law, I

564
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 3: don't want to hear any excuses.

565
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 1: Well, you were an officer for six years, you said

566
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Speaker 1: six and a half. Yeah, so a lot of your

567
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 1: fellow officers were white. Obviously, I just assumed, and you

568
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 1: sell them most of them are white. How did you

569
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Speaker 1: find them as people?

570
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Speaker 3: Great people? I feel like police officers are exceptional. They're

571
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 3: not just average people. You have to be exceptional. You

572
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 3: have to be dedicated, you have to have integrity, all

573
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 3: of those things. You have to make it through the

574
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Speaker 3: academy and also feel training, which I train new officers

575
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 3: on the department. So you can't just be a regular

576
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Speaker 3: person just you know, running the meal individual. So most

577
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 3: of the people that I knew were exceptional. They're willing

578
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 3: to put their lives on the line for other people

579
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Speaker 3: that they did not know. And many of the police

580
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Speaker 3: officers that I work with, they had families. I knew

581
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Speaker 3: their families, I knew their little kids. Some of them,

582
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 3: you know, freshly born and go to work every day

583
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 3: and willing to risk it all for people that don't.

584
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 3: It couldcurre less. And there were some great people that

585
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 3: cared about our service, but there's a lot of people

586
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 3: who could care less about us or even their own lives.

587
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 3: And to see somebody be able to put that uniform

588
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 3: on and do that on a day to day basis,

589
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Speaker 3: that's an exceptional individual.

590
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Speaker 1: Do you get a chance to talk to young people live?

591
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously with the virus, it's not possible.

592
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Speaker 3: What is it Otto?

593
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 1: He's really I think he's worked up by the subject.

594
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 1: It's intense.

595
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Speaker 3: His brown body is I don't know if he's triggered

596
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 3: by the police officer, if he had black in him,

597
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 3: I'll say black and brown body. But no, no, no, yes.

598
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 1: See dogs are color blind, which is really we got

599
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 1: to teach them. It's not to be exactly right. So

600
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Speaker 1: do you get a chance to speak to young people?

601
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Speaker 3: I do a lot on my last stream. Last last

602
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 3: stream I did had ten thousand people watching it one

603
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 3: time for almost two hours. I do speak at universities

604
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Speaker 3: out around the country.

605
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Speaker 1: I think you should get to universities. I think it

606
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 1: would be a really healthy thing, if, of course they

607
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Speaker 1: would even allow it. Well, you are the worst for them.

608
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Speaker 1: I mean we who are not black and a conservative

609
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Speaker 1: And I say not black, not even white, because the

610
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Speaker 1: nest de Suza is Indian American, not Native American, Indian India,

611
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 1: and they hate his guts, but so he doesn't. But

612
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:05,959
Speaker 1: he doesn't post a threat even though he's not white,

613
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 1: like like you would that eat the There is no

614
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 1: hatred like the hatred of a black conservative.

615
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean the thing is that I check a

616
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 3: lot of boxes to tear down the infrastructure or the

617
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 3: brainwashing that they push through mainstream media. You know, I

618
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 3: grew up in you know, a variety of variety of areas.

619
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Speaker 3: But I grew up in the hood in Fort Worth, Texas.

620
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Speaker 3: But I became a police officer. I obviously played college football.

621
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Speaker 3: I mean, I've done a lot of things. I was

622
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 3: a Democrat before, now I'm a conservative. I've been to

623
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 3: the White House five times. Like they, if I were

624
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,719
Speaker 3: to go out and tell my story, I think that

625
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 3: it would resonate with a lot of young people and

626
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 3: they will begin to connect, and they'll connect the dots

627
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 3: and see that you know what, Maybe I'm being lied to.

628
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Speaker 1: But you have to overcome what apparently it's a very

629
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 1: very powerful drive which the left creates. Like coal miners

630
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 1: create coal or bring out coal. They bring this out

631
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 1: and that is two things which are very destructive. Anger

632
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 1: and victimhood. And the irony is everyone who is angry

633
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 1: and everyone who thinks he's a victim is an unhappy

634
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 1: human being. So just on the happiness issue, why would

635
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 1: one want to be angry and consider him or herself

636
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 1: a victim? Do you have a theory on that? It's

637
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: a very hard question. I'm not even sure I have

638
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 1: an answer. I know I have the question.

639
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 3: I think a lot of people are insecure, right, I mean,

640
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 3: they're afraid of being great. They're afraid of taking accountability

641
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 3: for their own actions, especially when they've made poor actions.

642
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 3: And so if you were able to look at all

643
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 3: of your failures in life, and you feel the pain

644
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 3: of your failures, but you can divert that attention to

645
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 3: somebody else, and then you can change that into righteous

646
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 3: anger against the other person, then you alleviate that stress

647
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 3: on yourself. And most people would like to dide stress

648
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 3: and dodge your own failures, then to face them head on.

649
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 3: And I think that that's the difference between people who

650
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Speaker 3: are successful on people who are not. If the people

651
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Speaker 3: who are successful they say, you know what, the pain

652
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Speaker 3: of what I've done are the things that my parents

653
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Speaker 3: have done and put me in this position, I'm going

654
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Speaker 3: to face some head on. I'm gonna work hard and

655
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna work myself out of this because I'm in

656
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Speaker 3: a country that gives me that ability. And I think

657
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 3: that a lot of people are gullible, a lot of

658
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 3: people are sheep. Unfortunately, there's not a lot of leaders

659
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Speaker 3: in this country in the world in general, and people

660
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Speaker 3: who have a leader, like I guess an ability to lead.

661
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 3: If they are leading without integrity, or they're leading without

662
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Speaker 3: a godly mentality. They are leading and taking advantage of people.

663
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Speaker 3: So you see, these are left liberals who are very articulate,

664
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Speaker 3: who are up in the food chain. They are using

665
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Speaker 3: their opportunity to brainwash other individuals to keep them at

666
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Speaker 3: a lower position. It takes real strong leaders like yourself

667
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 3: and I and to actually speak to people and to

668
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Speaker 3: get them on a separate idea, an idea of prospering

669
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Speaker 3: and being successful. So you'll, I think you'll enjoy.

670
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Speaker 1: I have a concise theory. There are unhappy conservatives and

671
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 1: unhappy liberals or unhappy leftists, and the difference is the

672
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 1: unhappy conservative says life is hard for everybody, so some

673
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 1: harder than others, obviously, but life is built in difficult

674
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Speaker 1: and I have made mistakes, So I look at life.

675
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 1: I blame life, and I blame myself the leftist who

676
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 1: is unhappy, as I blame America. And that's really what

677
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 1: it amounts to. And for some reason that's appealing.

678
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a theory that I learned in my master

679
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,840
Speaker 3: degree class for business leadership is internal locals of control

680
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 3: and external locals of control, and so internal locals and

681
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:20,360
Speaker 3: control is Obviously, people can look within themselves to find

682
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 3: out how can I prosper or how is my life

683
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 3: being projected? It starts with me external is that. No,

684
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 3: it starts with somebody else. It's because my mom didn't

685
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Speaker 3: get an education, that's why, or because systemic racism that's

686
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Speaker 3: why firstus saying no. At the end of the day,

687
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 3: it comes down to me. You know, if I just

688
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Speaker 3: would have applied myself in high school, like I know

689
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Speaker 3: I should have, instead of running around with the kids

690
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Speaker 3: that my mom told me not to run with, I

691
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 3: would have had a better education, or I would have

692
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,839
Speaker 3: had better grades. I could have gone to college. If

693
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Speaker 3: I would have just applied myself, even on the job

694
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Speaker 3: that I had, If I would have just gone on

695
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:57,360
Speaker 3: time every day and worked hard, I've been successful. And

696
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Speaker 3: some people are afraid they admit that that's the issue.

697
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Speaker 1: Before I go to some questions from some of the

698
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Speaker 1: prager for us young people, for either or both of us.

699
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Speaker 1: You said that your dad your mom is on board

700
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Speaker 1: with you. Your dad is not fully on the other

701
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Speaker 1: side and not fully with you. And the reason is

702
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Speaker 1: largely Donald Trump, whom you said he considers a racist.

703
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Speaker 1: On what if you would say to your dad or

704
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Speaker 1: maybe I as a stranger. I just said, so, mister Tatum,

705
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Speaker 1: why do you say Donald Trump is a racist? Why

706
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Speaker 1: would he answer?

707
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Speaker 3: Well? So, I don't know if my dad specifically he

708
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:42,840
Speaker 3: is caught up in the racist elements.

709
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Speaker 1: I thought you had mentioned that earlier, that your dad

710
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Speaker 1: thought he was a racist.

711
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 3: But yeah, I don't think my dad think he's a racist.

712
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 3: I think my dad is struggling with his leadership and character.

713
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Speaker 3: My dad brought up a point of at some of

714
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Speaker 3: these press conferences of COVID nineteen, how it seems to

715
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Speaker 3: be this grown mean, he's this person talking, this person talking,

716
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 3: and they contradicted each other. And my dad was a

717
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 3: retired fire chief in Waco, Texas, and he's, you know,

718
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Speaker 3: he's a squared away guy, and he don't like Donald

719
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Speaker 3: Trump's leadership style. Now, my dad is also not being fair,

720
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Speaker 3: in my personal opinion, evaluating his accomplishments. So outside of

721
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 3: the character that you don't like, he's not given his

722
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Speaker 3: accomplishments a fair shake in my personal opinion. So I've

723
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 3: talked to him plenty of times about Trump, and so

724
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Speaker 3: he would not say he's a racist. I don't know.

725
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Speaker 3: I don't think he say Trump is so do you.

726
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Speaker 1: Know the answer that I have never gotten a clear answer.

727
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 1: I read all all the attacks, I read more on

728
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 1: the left than I read on the right. I've never

729
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 1: gotten the evidence for his being a racist. Do you

730
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:51,399
Speaker 1: know what is generally raised as proof. I don't know.

731
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Speaker 3: I know what's raised is proof. I mean it's it's ignorant,

732
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Speaker 3: and it's and it is baseless. It's the good people

733
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Speaker 3: on both sides Charlottesville argument, which.

734
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Speaker 1: By the way, we have a video at Prigger you

735
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Speaker 1: show that's a lie. He never said that. He doesn't

736
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Speaker 1: believe they were good Nazis. By the way, just is

737
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Speaker 1: such an obvious proof his children and grandchildren, his daughter

738
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Speaker 1: and son in law and his grandchildren are Jews. The

739
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Speaker 1: man would have to be beyond He would have to

740
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Speaker 1: be a lunatic. I like people who want to kill

741
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Speaker 1: my grandchildren. That's what he would be. That's what we

742
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Speaker 1: are accusing him of actually saying.

743
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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, they bring up other stuff like when

744
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Speaker 3: he said you know, s whole countries, which is still

745
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Speaker 3: to this day not verified.

746
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Speaker 1: Well, the left says America is in s whole country exactly,

747
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Speaker 1: And I guess they me.

748
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Speaker 3: And so I mean, I've never I have never seen

749
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Speaker 3: any unequivocal proof or any good argument to say that

750
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Speaker 3: President Trump is a racist, because before he's the president,

751
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 3: nobody ever alluded to the fact. No, nobody on a

752
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 3: large scale alluded to the fact that he was a racist.

753
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 3: I mean, he's seen pictures with everybody, He loves everybody,

754
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 3: and everybody loved him before he's running for office and

755
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 3: became the president. Yeah, I I it's it's it's it's

756
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Speaker 3: just a lie. Okay, let's see.

757
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Speaker 1: So we're gonna go to a video question, which I

758
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:17,320
Speaker 1: always do with the fireside chats, and the magic press

759
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 1: never works on the first shot, sometimes doesn't work on

760
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Speaker 1: the second. A third time is a charm. I know

761
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Speaker 1: that for many reasons. Okay, here we go.

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Speaker 4: So I'm special Trotter from Indianapolis, Indiana and obviously beautiful Indianapolis, Indiana,

763
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Speaker 4: seventy five a year after and I have really one

764
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Speaker 4: pressing question I think everyone's thinking about during this time

765
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Speaker 4: of trouble, and it's would you rather spend a night

766
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Speaker 4: in chas or spend a night at a feminist film festival?

767
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Speaker 3: Did you catch that? Yeah? Well, I'd say, if I

768
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Speaker 3: want to live at the female Festival, feminist film festival, right,

769
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Speaker 3: because Chazz seemed to have the highest murder per capita

770
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Speaker 3: of black men in the entire country. So I wouldn't

771
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Speaker 3: want to be in the chazzon for sure.

772
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Speaker 1: I'm with you, but you don't have to be black

773
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Speaker 1: to answer that. I'd rather be a feminist film festival

774
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 1: because in Chaz I would be worried about survival. And

775
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Speaker 1: at the feminist Film Festival, if it's a comfortable theater,

776
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 1: I could, you know, have popcorn and take a nap

777
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 1: and it's not a problem.

778
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Speaker 3: You may have some people screaming at you about the

779
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Speaker 3: patriarchy and all that stuff, but.

780
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Speaker 1: Yeah, the patriarchy, that's like systemic racism. What does it

781
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Speaker 1: mean patriarchy? Yeah, yeah, sixty what is it? Sixty percent?

782
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Speaker 1: We're approaching a sixty forty ratio of females to males

783
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Speaker 1: in college and it's still called a misogynist, patriarchal society.

784
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Speaker 3: You wouldn't even talk about the teachers who are teaching kids,

785
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Speaker 3: especially in grade school, are primarily female, overwhelmingly overwhelming. Yes,

786
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Speaker 3: that's right.

787
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, if evidence determined people's outlooks almost everyone to

788
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,959
Speaker 1: be conservative, or at least no one would be left.

789
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Speaker 3: Some people would still be liberal.

790
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Speaker 1: Chloe seventeen, North Carolina, Mister Tatum, Oh, what was your

791
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Speaker 1: real awakening from the leftist propaganda pushing the false narrative

792
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 1: of oppression of African Americans?

793
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Speaker 3: What was my awakening? I think the biggest my awakening

794
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 3: came from Barack Obama pushing a false narrative against police officers,

795
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 3: which I saw manifest. Very interesting. Yeah, I saw it

796
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 3: manifest because you got to think I was a cop.

797
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 3: Everybody's conservative. I'm a Democrat. And all of my friends

798
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 3: on SWAT team are like, Doe, you're not a Democrat.

799
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 3: You're not a Democrat. Look at your Christian values, look

800
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 3: at all these things. And I'm like, no, no, I'm

801
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 3: a Democrat. I may not agree with this, but I

802
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 3: agree with that. But then after a while they go,

803
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 3: look at your boy, look at Obama. Look at what

804
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,919
Speaker 3: he said about these police officers, look at what he's

805
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 3: doing out there, and our job is becoming increasingly more dangerous.

806
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 3: And I said, you know what, I can never support

807
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 3: anybody that won't stand up for the men and women

808
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,439
Speaker 3: that wear the uniform. And I said I could never.

809
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 3: I can never support them again or anybody else that's

810
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 3: associated with that mentality. And for the first time in

811
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 3: my life, I said, well, let me see what the

812
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 3: Republicans have because the Democrats are far gone. And so

813
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 3: that was pretty much my away. That's where it.

814
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Speaker 1: Started, right, that makes a great deal of sense. So

815
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Speaker 1: what's your take on defunding police forces?

816
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Speaker 3: Yeah? I think it's the dumbest thing ever in mankind history.

817
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 3: I mean, they don't really. The thing is that it's

818
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Speaker 3: not just the defund they want to eliminate the police,

819
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 3: but it sounds so radical and stupid that they have

820
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 3: to then say no, we just want to defund. But

821
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Speaker 3: they can't explain what are they going to defund? Are

822
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 3: you gonna cut pensions? Are you going to cut the

823
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 3: child sex unit? Are you gonna cut domestic violence? What

824
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:51,800
Speaker 3: exactly are you going to cut from the police department

825
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:53,439
Speaker 3: that's going to keep your community safe?

826
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Speaker 1: I'm sure this one did you Were you ever called

827
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Speaker 1: in in a domestic dispute.

828
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Speaker 3: Of a I lost count? I mean good.

829
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Speaker 1: So they say, why do we need police to go

830
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 1: for a domestic dispute? We can send a social worker.

831
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Speaker 1: What's your answer to that, because I have an answer,

832
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 1: but it's not based on any experience. You have an

833
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 1: experiential answer, right.

834
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Speaker 3: If you want to be vicariously responsible for the death

835
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Speaker 3: of a social worker in a domestic violent situation, then

836
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,479
Speaker 3: go ahead and send him in there. Domestic violence calls

837
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 3: are the most dangerous cause that police officers go on

838
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 3: because people turn when you go to the house. The

839
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 3: woman could beat up and her husband could be sitting there.

840
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 3: When you go to arrest him, her feelings change and

841
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:38,840
Speaker 3: then it becomes a violent situation or he leaves and

842
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 3: comes back. That's the most dangerous call to go to.

843
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 3: But people who have never policed a day in their life,

844
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 3: never done a ride along, they have no idea what

845
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 3: they're talking about, and so they're going to get these

846
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 3: people hurt or killed. You have to not only be

847
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 3: trained to deal with an individual, but you need to

848
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 3: have the tools on your tool kit just in case

849
00:43:56,239 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 3: it goes south, because talking doesn't work for everybody. And

850
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,280
Speaker 3: so I hope people realize.

851
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Speaker 1: That that's right. It seems to me to be very naive.

852
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:11,439
Speaker 1: Ragov twenty two years old. Go rakpoor, India. How can

853
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 1: we win this cultural war by canceling the cancel culture.

854
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 1: Will America be a meritocracy system with second chances as

855
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 1: it used to be? Well, Ragov, First, I'm glad you're there.

856
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:29,879
Speaker 1: Been Tidia four times. By the way, I love love

857
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: visiting India. America is, to people like you, is the

858
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 1: beacon of freedom on Earth. That's why the French gave

859
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 1: America the Statue of liberty and no other country. And

860
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 1: the left, which has never supported liberty ever liberals do

861
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 1: and conservatives do, the left has always destroyed liberty. There

862
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 1: was no exception to that. If you love liberty, you're

863
00:44:55,280 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 1: not on the left. So our battle, Ragov, is your battle.

864
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:04,800
Speaker 1: You are entirely right. If America fails, if the left

865
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 1: brings this country down, and it is very possible it will.

866
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 1: If it does, the amount of cruelty on earth that

867
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Speaker 1: will ensue will mean a new dark ages in human history.

868
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 1: If you want to comment on that, that's fine. It's

869
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 1: not gonna go perfect what you say. I couldn't have

870
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Speaker 1: said it any better, So fair enough, okay? Noel twenty one, Eastman, Georgia.

871
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 1: How do we educate people about issues like BLM, abortion, etc.

872
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 1: Even though our social media posts will most likely be

873
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 1: reported and taken down.

874
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:41,879
Speaker 3: What would you say to that. I think sharing, see

875
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 3: this is the thing, and I have to say this,

876
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 3: and this could be a level of black privilege that

877
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 3: I have. But when African American black conservatives speak on

878
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 3: certain topics, I haven't had any of my videos taken down,

879
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:57,879
Speaker 3: not one of them, and people have a hard time.

880
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 3: Calling me a racist is very very difficult. All white supremacists,

881
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:03,439
Speaker 3: you know, believe it or not, they have a hard

882
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 3: time doing that. So I think what young people can

883
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 3: do if you happen to not be black is share

884
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 3: some of the information from black conservatives. Therefore, it'll open

885
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 3: up an opportunity to have a conversation. It will not

886
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 3: be taken down, and it's very hard for somebody to

887
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 3: deem that conversation is being racist. So I think that

888
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 3: we all have to work together in ways that we

889
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 3: can and pushing, you know, some of the messaging forward,

890
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 3: because it is very hard as a white man or

891
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 3: a white young man woman in America to give your

892
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 3: your statements. And that's why we all need to come

893
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 3: together and put out the positive information that's right.

894
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 1: Also, you just got to keep doing it. We have

895
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 1: to inundate the the the Internet, with goodness, kindness and

896
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:58,280
Speaker 1: all the good things that we stand for. They stand

897
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 1: for bad stuff. The Left is bad. And when people

898
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 1: understand that you have a choice in life, do you

899
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 1: cowra to the bad? Like Nike and Amazon. In fact,

900
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 1: virtually every major corporation who there's a contest in America

901
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 1: who are the biggest cowards? College presidents or heads of

902
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:27,800
Speaker 1: big business. It's a very tough competition, but they're almost

903
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 1: all competing. So you, Noel, you have a choice. And

904
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 1: it's a tough one. I admit it. It really is

905
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 1: a tough one. Do you fight or not? I took

906
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 1: a vow. You'll find this touching because I went to

907
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 1: Normandy many years ago and I was very moved. Thousands

908
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 1: of crosses, virtually all of them, you know, late teens,

909
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 1: early twenties, horrible death on Normandy Beach, fighting the Nazis.

910
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 1: And I looked at them and I took vow. And

911
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 1: I did and I don't often take vows. And I

912
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 1: said to myself, if these guys could die to preserve

913
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:12,799
Speaker 1: America and preserve liberty, the least I could do is live.

914
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not asked to die to live to

915
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 1: preserve America and liberty. And that's that's what you have

916
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 1: to do. They take it down, you put another one up,

917
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 1: and that that's just the way it is. And you

918
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 1: confront them. You take it down because you can't answer me.

919
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 1: That's why you're the villain, not me. Want to debate.

920
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 1: I'd love to debate you. Why don't you debate? Why

921
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 1: do you only smear? That's all the Left does is smear.

922
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 1: I'm sure you get a lot of smears.

923
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:47,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, But I look at it like this, You're

924
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 3: planting seeds. You just got to remember, you're not going

925
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:53,320
Speaker 3: to convert everybody overnight. And just like the Gospel or whatever,

926
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:55,799
Speaker 3: you're not gonna convert people over night. You just keep

927
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 3: putting that information out there. Just keep putting out there,

928
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:01,359
Speaker 3: even if even if you change one person, you may

929
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 3: change the next president, you know, So keep putting it

930
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 3: out there, and over time, other people will water it,

931
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 3: you know, you know, maybe they'll hear me, or they

932
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 3: hear somebody else or there, or they'll have their own

933
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:13,839
Speaker 3: experiences with the Left that turns them off. And then

934
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 3: eventually all of those seeds will begin to sprout in

935
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 3: a person and they may change twenty years, thirty years.

936
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 3: They may never come back and tell you, but you've

937
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 3: made an impact that you know you have if you're

938
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 3: actually planting the seeds, that's correct. We have to plan seeds,

939
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:29,399
Speaker 3: all right.

940
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 1: The final question here Sady sixteen years old Mason, Michigan.

941
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 1: What do you think of the people who painted over

942
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:41,800
Speaker 1: the BLM mural getting charged with a hate crime? Do

943
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:42,799
Speaker 1: you have any thoughts on that?

944
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:44,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought it was horrible. I mean, why would

945
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 3: you charge them with a hate crime? I don't understand.

946
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:53,359
Speaker 3: I don't understand that. It's such hypocrisy because if you

947
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:57,280
Speaker 3: are going to say that BLM that painting on the ground,

948
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 3: that means nothing. You know, it's just paint on the ground.

949
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 3: You're gonna say that that is worthy of a hate crime.

950
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:07,320
Speaker 3: But what about when they spray paint and they destroy

951
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:09,880
Speaker 3: all the monuments. I feel like that that is hateful

952
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 3: as well. I feel like that's disrespectful to the.

953
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:16,840
Speaker 1: Just on the record, I think that tearing down a

954
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 1: statue of George Washington or Lincoln who liberated as slaves

955
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 1: is a bit more hateful even than a movement, which

956
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 1: is a very hateful movement. The concept that black Lives

957
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 1: Matter is not hateful, but the movement with that name

958
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:40,320
Speaker 1: is also What if somebody erased a abortion is murdered,

959
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 1: there was somewhere painted abortion. If somebody erased that, would

960
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 1: they be charged with a hate crime.

961
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 3: They wouldn't let me. I'll tell you this. I'll tell

962
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 3: you this's two things. If somebody put White Lives Matter

963
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:54,240
Speaker 3: on that same street, right underneath or next to Black

964
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 3: Lives Matter, people will destroy it and do all kinds

965
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:00,080
Speaker 3: of things to it and nothing will happen. And they

966
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 3: should be equally set.

967
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 1: Or more or more even pertinent. Blue Lives Matter.

968
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:11,720
Speaker 3: Right even in Arizona. In Tucson, the mayor of Tucson

969
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 3: will not allow there to be a Blue Lives Matter painting.

970
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:17,400
Speaker 3: It's just I think, a blue line painted in the

971
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:20,239
Speaker 3: front of the police station. But they will allow Black

972
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 3: Lives Matter to be painted everywhere. And they have an

973
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:25,879
Speaker 3: inner lead. They have an intersection LGBTQ intersection that they've

974
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 3: painted rainbow colors, and they won't let you put a

975
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:32,320
Speaker 3: blue line in front of the police station. It's shameful.

976
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 3: And I'll say this about the statues because I think

977
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:37,279
Speaker 3: people are not rationalizing this. They take it down turning

978
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:40,319
Speaker 3: out on these statues. Police aren't doing anything. Nobody's really

979
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 3: standing up for anything. I think the president obviously he's

980
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 3: trying to do his best. But if they were to

981
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 3: go and tear down Martin Luther King's statue, do you

982
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:50,839
Speaker 3: think that the police would not intervene? Do you think

983
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 3: that people wouldn't say anything? Do you think that people

984
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 3: wouldn't be swiftly arrested, taking the jail and probably bludgeted

985
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 3: by a crowd of individuals, And so what is going

986
00:51:59,920 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 3: on and on with the hypocrisy. You shouldn't take down

987
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 3: any monument because I'm just as upset you're taking down

988
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 3: Lincoln as I am if you took down Martin Luther King.

989
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 3: You shouldn't do it. It's against the law for starters,

990
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:13,719
Speaker 3: and it's burning books. You would say, they trying to

991
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 3: erase history, and I think it's shameful. You're a good man.

992
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 3: You're a good man. I'm learning for good men like you,

993
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:24,799
Speaker 3: So that's very sweet of you to say.

994
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 1: But you are, and you give people hope. I am

995
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 1: asked now more often than any time in my life,

996
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 1: Dennis is their reason for hope for America. And there

997
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 1: are thousands and millions of reasons. The good people who

998
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 1: don't buy the lies and the evil that surrounds us.

999
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 1: But a handful are called apparently and you're one of them.

1000
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:58,879
Speaker 1: And I have no reason to say this other than

1001
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:02,840
Speaker 1: to encourage you and to let you know of this

1002
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 1: special band. So God bless you.

1003
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Speaker 3: Thanks, thanks for having me on. I really appreciate it.

1004
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Speaker 3: It was a joy.

1005
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Speaker 1: So see you next week. Dennis Prager here with Brandon

1006
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Speaker 1: Tatum the fireside.

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Speaker 5: Chat tomorrow on Timeless Wisdom with Dennis Prager.

1008
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Speaker 6: I love your show and I really respect your opinion,

1009
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1010
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