1 00:00:03,490 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: The gospel of this kingdom, Israel, will be preached all 2 00:00:06,970 --> 00:00:11,500 Speaker 1: over the world. So seeing that the gospel is going 3 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:17,290 Speaker 1: forth so powerfully throughout the entire world makes me believe 4 00:00:17,310 --> 00:00:20,430 Speaker 1: the end is at hand. Jesus is coming soon. 5 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 2: In the past 50 or 60 years or so, more 6 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:35,199 Speaker 2: Muslims have left Islam and become true, born-again followers of 7 00:00:35,300 --> 00:00:39,010 Speaker 2: Jesus Christ, the crucified and risen Savior, and the God 8 00:00:39,030 --> 00:00:41,810 Speaker 2: of the universe. More Muslims have come to faith in 9 00:00:41,909 --> 00:00:43,909 Speaker 2: Jesus in the last 50 or 60 years than the 10 00:00:43,950 --> 00:00:46,610 Speaker 2: last 14 centuries combined. 11 00:00:47,170 --> 00:00:47,470 Speaker 1: Why? 12 00:00:47,610 --> 00:00:50,050 Speaker 2: What is happening? Why is there a spiritual revolution, a 13 00:00:50,090 --> 00:00:54,450 Speaker 2: great awakening happening in the Muslim world today? And why is... 14 00:00:54,940 --> 00:00:59,420 Speaker 2: Preaching the gospel and making disciples and strengthening the church 15 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:03,190 Speaker 2: in the Arab and Iranian, the Muslim world, so important 16 00:01:03,230 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 2: to the work of the Joshua Fund. right from our 17 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 2: inception 20 years ago. Well, welcome to Inside the Epicenter. 18 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:13,170 Speaker 2: I'm Joel Rosenberg. I'm so glad to be here with 19 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:17,369 Speaker 2: my fellow co-founder of the Joshua Fund and my dear wife, Lynn, 20 00:01:17,770 --> 00:01:20,650 Speaker 2: as we record one of the last episodes in this 21 00:01:20,730 --> 00:01:25,709 Speaker 2: series on sort of the origin story of the Joshua Fund. 22 00:01:25,770 --> 00:01:28,170 Speaker 2: How did this thing come about? And why do we 23 00:01:28,230 --> 00:01:32,069 Speaker 2: love Arabs and Iranians? Why do we love Muslims as 24 00:01:32,190 --> 00:01:34,310 Speaker 2: much as we love Jews? Why do we want them 25 00:01:34,370 --> 00:01:36,690 Speaker 2: to know Jesus just as much? Why do we focus 26 00:01:36,750 --> 00:01:39,380 Speaker 2: on it just as much as well? And Lynn, I'm 27 00:01:39,500 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 2: really excited about this episode to welcome really the first 28 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:47,820 Speaker 2: Arab evangelical leader that we had ever met in our lives. 29 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:51,580 Speaker 2: We didn't expect to be so involved in his life 30 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 2: over the next 35 years, much less to have him 31 00:01:54,650 --> 00:01:58,670 Speaker 2: come on the board in this past year. But He's 32 00:01:58,710 --> 00:02:02,610 Speaker 2: a very dear friend and a Lebanese evangelical Christian brother. Lynn, 33 00:02:02,630 --> 00:02:04,950 Speaker 2: would you introduce our special guest today? 34 00:02:05,910 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 3: Yes, it would be my honor. It's such a pleasure. 35 00:02:08,500 --> 00:02:10,660 Speaker 3: And we're so grateful to have Henry Allen as our 36 00:02:10,700 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 3: guest today. You know, we've been just looking back at 37 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:17,639 Speaker 3: God's faithfulness over these past 20 years to the Joshua 38 00:02:17,660 --> 00:02:21,370 Speaker 3: Fund and to us personally and to the partners that 39 00:02:21,389 --> 00:02:23,570 Speaker 3: we've been working with. And, you know, one of the 40 00:02:23,610 --> 00:02:26,230 Speaker 3: ways that God has shown us his faithfulness is just 41 00:02:26,330 --> 00:02:29,190 Speaker 3: bringing us people to teach us. bringing us people to 42 00:02:29,250 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 3: show us that are much more experienced than us to 43 00:02:32,590 --> 00:02:35,179 Speaker 3: teach us what is His heart. And I can't think 44 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 3: of anyone that God used more in our lives than 45 00:02:38,220 --> 00:02:41,419 Speaker 3: Henry Aoun, our guest today. You know, we've traveled together. 46 00:02:41,460 --> 00:02:45,089 Speaker 3: We've served together. We've eaten great food together. We've been 47 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:47,090 Speaker 3: in his home. He's been in our home and my 48 00:02:47,210 --> 00:02:51,190 Speaker 3: mom's home. And We're just so grateful for our friendship, 49 00:02:51,230 --> 00:02:53,369 Speaker 3: our deep and long friendship with Henry. And it's such 50 00:02:53,410 --> 00:02:56,089 Speaker 3: a joy today to share some of the stories about 51 00:02:56,150 --> 00:02:59,090 Speaker 3: how God really put a love and a commitment, like 52 00:02:59,130 --> 00:03:04,610 Speaker 3: a real commitment to Israel's neighbors, to the whole Middle East, 53 00:03:04,669 --> 00:03:08,990 Speaker 3: the whole world of where Islam is dominant, deep into 54 00:03:09,030 --> 00:03:11,490 Speaker 3: the DNA of the Joshua Fund right from the beginning, 55 00:03:11,930 --> 00:03:14,770 Speaker 3: what we're called to do and what we are doing. So, Henry, 56 00:03:14,810 --> 00:03:16,609 Speaker 3: thanks so much for joining us today. 57 00:03:16,630 --> 00:03:17,870 Speaker 1: My pleasure. 58 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:21,620 Speaker 3: Now, we met you and your wife, Ruthie, when Joel 59 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 3: and I were just newlyweds. We were at a mission 60 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 3: conference in the United States, and Joel and I were 61 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 3: just showing up, hoping to meet people who were doing 62 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,220 Speaker 3: ministry in the Middle East. And we, of course, we 63 00:03:33,260 --> 00:03:35,710 Speaker 3: were thinking, are there anybody doing ministry in Israel, doing 64 00:03:35,750 --> 00:03:38,810 Speaker 3: ministry with Jewish people? But the Lord introduced us to 65 00:03:38,890 --> 00:03:42,430 Speaker 3: you and Ruthie, and this became such a key moment 66 00:03:42,470 --> 00:03:42,770 Speaker 3: for us. 67 00:03:42,830 --> 00:03:44,030 Speaker 2: We're forever grateful. 68 00:03:44,490 --> 00:03:46,970 Speaker 3: You know, when you meet a young couple like us, 69 00:03:47,650 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 3: filled with questions, you know, about what God's doing in 70 00:03:50,410 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 3: the Middle East. What are the things you most want 71 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:55,460 Speaker 3: to share with someone like us back then? 72 00:03:56,560 --> 00:04:01,250 Speaker 1: Yes. With a couple like this, I would love to 73 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:06,390 Speaker 1: let them know that God Almighty is at work through 74 00:04:06,450 --> 00:04:11,830 Speaker 1: His Holy Spirit and through His faithful servants throughout the world. 75 00:04:12,510 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: And it's true. God is truly at work. throughout the 76 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:22,220 Speaker 1: whole Middle East like never before. You know, I remember 77 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:27,870 Speaker 1: reading somewhere that Dr. Zwimmer, one of the grandfathers of 78 00:04:27,910 --> 00:04:31,890 Speaker 1: the Christian work, mission work in the Middle East, he said, 79 00:04:32,450 --> 00:04:37,980 Speaker 1: if you think God is not at work, maybe you're 80 00:04:38,020 --> 00:04:41,980 Speaker 1: hiding the key of the door in your own pocket. Yeah. 81 00:04:43,190 --> 00:04:47,870 Speaker 1: God is opening wide doors like never before. I also 82 00:04:47,930 --> 00:04:53,650 Speaker 1: want them to know that God is raising up a 83 00:04:53,850 --> 00:05:01,169 Speaker 1: great number, hosts of converts from many backgrounds and also 84 00:05:01,230 --> 00:05:06,950 Speaker 1: raising up national workers like I have never seen. You know, 85 00:05:07,330 --> 00:05:11,539 Speaker 1: I was one time in Monte Carlo recording music radio 86 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:16,700 Speaker 1: program for Trans World Radio beaming into North Africa and 87 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:20,919 Speaker 1: the Middle East. And I remember looking across the sea, 88 00:05:21,540 --> 00:05:25,550 Speaker 1: you could see the shores of North Africa in the 89 00:05:25,610 --> 00:05:30,690 Speaker 1: horizon on a good weather day. And I really had 90 00:05:30,730 --> 00:05:37,650 Speaker 1: a vision seeing an army coming out of the national 91 00:05:38,980 --> 00:05:44,409 Speaker 1: countries of North Africa, Middle East. I'll never forget that scene. 92 00:05:45,870 --> 00:05:49,930 Speaker 2: An army of believers, right? We've seen armies come into 93 00:05:50,029 --> 00:05:52,670 Speaker 2: Europe or into other places, but you're talking about a 94 00:05:52,750 --> 00:05:56,810 Speaker 2: spiritual army of God taking people out of whatever religion 95 00:05:57,170 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 2: they were part of and realizing the truth of Jesus Christ. 96 00:06:00,900 --> 00:06:07,420 Speaker 1: Exactly. I'm talking about people embracing Christ as Lord and Savior, 97 00:06:07,740 --> 00:06:12,700 Speaker 1: but also embracing an army of Christian workers to spread 98 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:18,740 Speaker 1: the gospel. And I've never seen it. And I'll never forget, honestly, 99 00:06:18,940 --> 00:06:24,290 Speaker 1: I was in a conference leading just executives, top executives 100 00:06:24,350 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: in the Arab world. And I gave a challenge. Would 101 00:06:28,820 --> 00:06:33,330 Speaker 1: you consider serving the Lord in your own profession? Not 102 00:06:33,410 --> 00:06:36,790 Speaker 1: leave your profession, but as a lawyer, as a teacher, 103 00:06:36,970 --> 00:06:40,870 Speaker 1: as a doctor, as a driver, you know, taxi driver, 104 00:06:40,990 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 1: as a, you know, housewife, as whatever. Would you consider 105 00:06:46,700 --> 00:06:50,900 Speaker 1: committing your life to serve the Lord, you know, and 106 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 1: through your profession? I'll never forget that. There was a line. 107 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:02,010 Speaker 1: of about 50 people lined up to sign up to 108 00:07:02,190 --> 00:07:08,990 Speaker 1: join the mission as professionals. I just got a word yesterday. 109 00:07:09,310 --> 00:07:15,980 Speaker 1: We have 11 new professionals joining staff as professionals. in 110 00:07:16,140 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: one single Arab country. That was yesterday I got the news. 111 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:22,900 Speaker 1: You know, and they said, this is your original idea. 112 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: Would you consider coming to speak to these people throughout 113 00:07:26,540 --> 00:07:29,220 Speaker 1: this year? They're going to be going through the training 114 00:07:29,300 --> 00:07:34,550 Speaker 1: for two years to prepare to become Christian workers through 115 00:07:34,580 --> 00:07:38,930 Speaker 1: their profession. And they commit a minimum 10 hours a 116 00:07:39,170 --> 00:07:42,890 Speaker 1: week in evangelism and discipleship. Hmm. 117 00:07:43,810 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 2: You know, when we first met you, Henry, and again, 118 00:07:46,820 --> 00:07:50,490 Speaker 2: being newly married and fresh out of undergraduate school, so 119 00:07:50,530 --> 00:07:55,940 Speaker 2: we really didn't know anything. We also didn't understand where 120 00:07:55,980 --> 00:07:57,740 Speaker 2: God had placed you. You know, we saw you at 121 00:07:57,780 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 2: this mission conference. We knew you were the sort of 122 00:08:00,460 --> 00:08:04,060 Speaker 2: the Middle East and North Africa director of a ministry 123 00:08:04,100 --> 00:08:07,460 Speaker 2: called Campus Crusade for Christ International, which in the region 124 00:08:07,500 --> 00:08:11,290 Speaker 2: is called Life Agape. But we didn't understand the magnitude 125 00:08:11,310 --> 00:08:13,970 Speaker 2: of what you were doing. What we came to know, 126 00:08:14,010 --> 00:08:16,790 Speaker 2: I'm telling this to our viewers and listeners, was that 127 00:08:16,830 --> 00:08:21,190 Speaker 2: at the time, Henry was responsible for all the national 128 00:08:21,250 --> 00:08:26,500 Speaker 2: ministries that Leif Agape was doing, of national believers, in 129 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:31,980 Speaker 2: every country from Morocco in the west to Afghanistan in 130 00:08:32,020 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 2: the east. Think of every Muslim country in between there. 131 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 2: So they called it Namestan, meaning North Africa, that's the na, 132 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:43,610 Speaker 2: and then the me from name would be Middle East, 133 00:08:43,710 --> 00:08:47,589 Speaker 2: and then the stans, the Central Asian stans, some of 134 00:08:47,650 --> 00:08:51,340 Speaker 2: former Soviet republics, and then, of course, Afghanistan itself. That 135 00:08:51,380 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 2: was like an astonishing amount of territory and a lot 136 00:08:56,059 --> 00:08:59,260 Speaker 2: of responsibility. But what drew us to you, aside from 137 00:08:59,300 --> 00:09:02,479 Speaker 2: you're just kind as you and Ruthie and your kids, 138 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:07,989 Speaker 2: was that you would share with us stories of people, 139 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:11,870 Speaker 2: of Muslims coming to Christ and of Christian workers serving 140 00:09:11,929 --> 00:09:15,290 Speaker 2: and preaching and teaching and making disciples here. Because you 141 00:09:15,330 --> 00:09:18,870 Speaker 2: had all these streams of intelligence from all these other countries. 142 00:09:18,910 --> 00:09:22,350 Speaker 2: I don't mean government intelligence. I mean ministry intelligence. But 143 00:09:22,370 --> 00:09:25,860 Speaker 2: also you were traveling to almost every single one of 144 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:29,709 Speaker 2: those countries if it was accessible to you. and gathering 145 00:09:29,730 --> 00:09:33,460 Speaker 2: your national leaders in other places for conferences and the listening. 146 00:09:34,030 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 2: And it's just the scope of what God was doing, 147 00:09:38,100 --> 00:09:40,180 Speaker 2: not so much what you were doing, but the scope 148 00:09:40,220 --> 00:09:42,220 Speaker 2: of what God was doing was so touching to us. 149 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 2: I do want to get in a moment, we want 150 00:09:44,460 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 2: to get to why you've joined the Joshua Fund board 151 00:09:47,620 --> 00:09:49,559 Speaker 2: in a season of your life where you're trying to 152 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,439 Speaker 2: slow down a little bit. Why is that important to you? 153 00:09:53,220 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 2: But first, would you just share some stories even recent stories, 154 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:00,059 Speaker 2: of Muslims that either you have led to the Lord 155 00:10:00,179 --> 00:10:02,900 Speaker 2: or just had even opportunities to share the gospel with 156 00:10:03,300 --> 00:10:06,459 Speaker 2: or that your staff have? Because it's really one of 157 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 2: the most exciting things is to see in an area 158 00:10:09,020 --> 00:10:12,010 Speaker 2: where people think, oh, it's just terrorism and radicalism and 159 00:10:12,070 --> 00:10:16,290 Speaker 2: war and darkness. True, but God is moving. 160 00:10:16,970 --> 00:10:17,150 Speaker 3: Yes. 161 00:10:17,870 --> 00:10:22,459 Speaker 1: You know... because of all that is happening, I'm saying 162 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:28,460 Speaker 1: God is at work, not in spite of what is happening, 163 00:10:28,580 --> 00:10:33,420 Speaker 1: all the wars, but because, and God does not cause 164 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: the war, but he uses the war. World calamities are 165 00:10:38,420 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: God's opportunities. And God uses the word when people get displaced, 166 00:10:45,500 --> 00:10:50,590 Speaker 1: scattered everywhere, you know, and, They hear the good news. 167 00:10:51,450 --> 00:10:55,490 Speaker 1: I was on the plane just 10 days ago on 168 00:10:55,530 --> 00:10:59,500 Speaker 1: my way to one Arab nation. And sitting next to 169 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:04,620 Speaker 1: me is an executive with his daughter, an adult daughter, 170 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: who is, he's training her to take over his business. 171 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:12,070 Speaker 1: He's approaching retirement and he wants his daughter to take 172 00:11:12,250 --> 00:11:17,590 Speaker 1: over this business they have. And they were just so hungry. 173 00:11:18,510 --> 00:11:23,050 Speaker 1: as I shared the gospel with them. And amazingly, we 174 00:11:23,090 --> 00:11:27,210 Speaker 1: have appointment to meet on the 9th of September, right here, 175 00:11:27,710 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: because they are based in France. We're going to meet here. 176 00:11:31,220 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: You know, one of my personal strategies is I put 177 00:11:35,820 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: a New Testament in my briefcase and I say, Lord, 178 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: would you introduce me to the owner of this book? 179 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:48,390 Speaker 1: It's not mine. Would you introduce me? You know, I 180 00:11:48,429 --> 00:11:52,109 Speaker 1: was in the U.S. just last month, and I got 181 00:11:52,150 --> 00:11:56,950 Speaker 1: invited by friends to watch the final game of the 182 00:11:57,010 --> 00:12:03,540 Speaker 1: World Cup. Wow. And during the halftime, the hostess was 183 00:12:03,620 --> 00:12:07,980 Speaker 1: telling me, you know, our neighbor, an American lady, she 184 00:12:08,100 --> 00:12:11,420 Speaker 1: has dementia. And the lady that takes care of her 185 00:12:11,770 --> 00:12:16,890 Speaker 1: is Lebanese. And you're Lebanese. I said, oh. Can I 186 00:12:16,950 --> 00:12:20,030 Speaker 1: meet her? She runs over to the house. This is 187 00:12:20,100 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: during halftime. She comes over and I meet this lady. 188 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: She's not a Christian lady. She's from different background. And 189 00:12:31,380 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 1: we started talking. And I asked her, have you ever 190 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:39,809 Speaker 1: read the Ingeo, the New Testament? She goes, you know, 191 00:12:40,350 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 1: somebody gave me one copy and I lost it. I 192 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 1: was in North Carolina. Now I moved to D.C. and 193 00:12:48,870 --> 00:12:53,609 Speaker 1: Virginia and I lost it. I said, if I give 194 00:12:53,650 --> 00:12:56,370 Speaker 1: you one, would you like to read it? She said, yes, 195 00:12:56,770 --> 00:13:01,790 Speaker 1: I do. Well, so happened. I have one. And I'm thinking, Lord, 196 00:13:01,870 --> 00:13:04,980 Speaker 1: thank you. I just met the owner of this, you know, 197 00:13:06,059 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 1: of this copy right there, you know, like this one. 198 00:13:10,380 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 1: And she was so hungry. You know, she was really 199 00:13:14,179 --> 00:13:17,300 Speaker 1: wanted to read it. And now the lady, but the 200 00:13:17,370 --> 00:13:22,350 Speaker 1: hostess is following up with her. I was invited to 201 00:13:22,429 --> 00:13:29,690 Speaker 1: dinner at the pastor of the church where I attended before. And, um, 202 00:13:30,330 --> 00:13:34,540 Speaker 1: during dinner, he had invited other guests. There were many 203 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:39,059 Speaker 1: people around the table, but right across from me was 204 00:13:39,140 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: a lady from an Arab country. And, um, I asked her, 205 00:13:44,250 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: have you ever read the New Testament, the Injil? She goes, yes, 206 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:56,060 Speaker 1: I did. And I know a lot, and I've been 207 00:13:56,480 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: asking many people. I said, is there something that's still 208 00:14:01,300 --> 00:14:05,940 Speaker 1: bothering you about our faith? She goes, yes. Do you 209 00:14:05,980 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 1: worship one God or three gods? I said, I am 210 00:14:10,500 --> 00:14:14,890 Speaker 1: so glad. Thank you. for being honest and letting me 211 00:14:14,950 --> 00:14:18,020 Speaker 1: know what bothers you. And I went on to explain 212 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: to her. The amazing thing, the gentleman next to me 213 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 1: is one of the elders of the churches. He said, 214 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:30,230 Speaker 1: please continue. I've never heard this explanation. I've been a 215 00:14:30,290 --> 00:14:33,010 Speaker 1: Christian all my life. I don't know why we believe 216 00:14:33,070 --> 00:14:36,090 Speaker 1: in the Trinity. We believe in one God, yes, but 217 00:14:36,130 --> 00:14:40,010 Speaker 1: we live in Trinity. I didn't understand all that. Continue, continue, please. 218 00:14:40,950 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: So here I was discipling a guy and sharing the 219 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: gospel with another. 220 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:46,980 Speaker 3: That's great. 221 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:49,900 Speaker 2: Hold that thought. We've got to take a break. When 222 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 2: we come back, we want to hear more. Why do 223 00:14:52,500 --> 00:14:55,770 Speaker 2: you think this last 50 or 60 years and especially 224 00:14:55,810 --> 00:15:00,330 Speaker 2: with the season we're in now, why are Muslims so open? And, 225 00:15:00,590 --> 00:15:03,310 Speaker 2: and of course, why should the Joshua fund be, you know, 226 00:15:03,490 --> 00:15:05,950 Speaker 2: why should this be a part of, of our DNA 227 00:15:06,030 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 2: right from the beginning over these 20 years? And why 228 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 2: have you joined the board? We've got a few other questions, 229 00:15:11,100 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 2: but let's take a break. Don't go away. Everyone will 230 00:15:14,020 --> 00:15:17,060 Speaker 2: be right back with more with Henry Aoun, a wonderful 231 00:15:17,100 --> 00:15:21,350 Speaker 2: Lebanese evangelical and who is, God has been using he, 232 00:15:21,390 --> 00:15:24,770 Speaker 2: his family, his team, to minister all throughout the Muslim 233 00:15:24,790 --> 00:15:26,450 Speaker 2: world so beautifully. Don't go away. 234 00:15:33,900 --> 00:15:37,980 Speaker 3: Our verse from today comes from Romans chapter one, verse 16. 235 00:15:37,980 --> 00:15:41,100 Speaker 3: For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it 236 00:15:41,180 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 3: is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, 237 00:15:45,700 --> 00:15:49,710 Speaker 3: to the Jew first and also to the nations. Will 238 00:15:49,750 --> 00:15:53,330 Speaker 3: you join us in praying and fasting like Henry encouraged 239 00:15:53,450 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 3: us to pray for God to raise up more workers? 240 00:15:57,500 --> 00:16:01,140 Speaker 3: We know that the harvest is plentiful. Will you join 241 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 3: us in being active and sharing your faith? We know 242 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:08,230 Speaker 3: from Philemon that if we are active in sharing our faith, 243 00:16:08,330 --> 00:16:10,990 Speaker 3: we will know all the blessings that we have in 244 00:16:11,030 --> 00:16:14,310 Speaker 3: Christ Jesus. And finally, would you pray that the people 245 00:16:14,430 --> 00:16:18,140 Speaker 3: of the epicenter would walk in confidence, knowing that God 246 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 3: is at work. 247 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:19,620 Speaker 2: God is moving. 248 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:23,060 Speaker 3: The Holy Spirit is pouring out across this region and 249 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:26,190 Speaker 3: there's work to be done. So let's walk with confidence. 250 00:16:33,690 --> 00:16:37,030 Speaker 3: Welcome back to Inside the Epicenter. We're so grateful that 251 00:16:37,220 --> 00:16:39,740 Speaker 3: we have our friend Henry Allen with us today, and 252 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 3: we want to get right back into this wonderful conversation. Henry, 253 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:47,300 Speaker 3: Joel mentioned before we went to the break, just this 254 00:16:47,500 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 3: openness that we see in the last maybe 50 years. 255 00:16:50,980 --> 00:16:53,460 Speaker 3: You can tell us, what would you say? Why is 256 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:56,860 Speaker 3: it that there's this great openness among the Muslims to 257 00:16:57,020 --> 00:17:00,470 Speaker 3: be so curious about Jesus and to come to Jesus, really? 258 00:17:01,350 --> 00:17:05,670 Speaker 1: Yes, you know, I... strongly believe in what Jesus said 259 00:17:05,790 --> 00:17:11,610 Speaker 1: in Matthew chapter 24, that before the end, the gospel 260 00:17:11,630 --> 00:17:14,820 Speaker 1: is going to go all over the world. The gospel 261 00:17:14,859 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 1: will be preached. The gospel of this kingdom, he said, 262 00:17:18,980 --> 00:17:23,220 Speaker 1: will be preached all over the world. So seeing that 263 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 1: the gospel is going forth so powerfully throughout the entire 264 00:17:27,859 --> 00:17:32,640 Speaker 1: world makes me believe the end is at hand. Jesus 265 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:38,060 Speaker 1: is coming soon. So that's one. Second, always before the 266 00:17:38,180 --> 00:17:43,149 Speaker 1: great revivals, God puts on the heart of people the 267 00:17:43,250 --> 00:17:48,590 Speaker 1: importance of fasting and prayer. And, you know, the movement 268 00:17:48,630 --> 00:17:55,300 Speaker 1: that started early 90s and during the holy month of Ramadan, 269 00:17:56,300 --> 00:18:02,570 Speaker 1: in respect of our Muslim neighbors who are fasting, we 270 00:18:03,470 --> 00:18:07,210 Speaker 1: try to fast with them and pray for them. 30 271 00:18:07,210 --> 00:18:12,120 Speaker 1: days of concerted effort of prayer and it's spread. It's 272 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 1: now recorded like over 30 million believers pray and many 273 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:21,679 Speaker 1: fast during the month of Ramadan for the Muslim people. 274 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 1: And I believe this is the secret behind people coming 275 00:18:27,220 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 1: to know Christ in such a huge number. I practice 276 00:18:31,619 --> 00:18:37,060 Speaker 1: this personally of fasting and prayer. I like to really 277 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:42,090 Speaker 1: dedicate the month of Ramadan to fasting, not necessarily the 278 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:47,570 Speaker 1: same way my Muslim neighbors fast, but I fast in 279 00:18:47,690 --> 00:18:50,889 Speaker 1: a way that I believe I should, but I pray 280 00:18:51,010 --> 00:18:54,209 Speaker 1: a lot for the Muslim people. And, you know, I 281 00:18:54,310 --> 00:18:58,649 Speaker 1: love what Paul really said in 1 Timothy 2. He said, 282 00:19:00,369 --> 00:19:04,970 Speaker 1: First of all, then, I urge that entreaties and prayers, 283 00:19:05,510 --> 00:19:09,650 Speaker 1: petitions and thanksgiving be made on behalf of all men. 284 00:19:10,710 --> 00:19:13,570 Speaker 1: God wants us to pray for all the people. And 285 00:19:13,690 --> 00:19:17,430 Speaker 1: I love to pray for millions of Muslims. And what's 286 00:19:17,470 --> 00:19:21,169 Speaker 1: a better way to pray than to say, Lord, I 287 00:19:21,250 --> 00:19:25,969 Speaker 1: bring before you every man whose name is Muhammad. And 288 00:19:26,430 --> 00:19:29,810 Speaker 1: I love that. I pray for Muhammad that God will 289 00:19:29,900 --> 00:19:34,570 Speaker 1: bless him and God will allow him to understand the truth, 290 00:19:34,869 --> 00:19:39,310 Speaker 1: to open his eyes, to embrace the gospel, to embrace 291 00:19:39,390 --> 00:19:42,609 Speaker 1: the way, Jesus, the way, the truth, and the life. 292 00:19:43,230 --> 00:19:49,050 Speaker 1: And pray for every Muslim father and mother and etc. 293 00:19:50,130 --> 00:19:53,690 Speaker 1: I like to pray for the entire Muslim world, entire 294 00:19:53,790 --> 00:19:59,369 Speaker 1: people of this region. And that's why we're seeing amazing revival. 295 00:19:59,869 --> 00:20:04,020 Speaker 1: I mean, number of people coming to know Christ today 296 00:20:04,470 --> 00:20:06,260 Speaker 1: is staggering. Yeah. 297 00:20:06,780 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 3: You know, we got, I don't know if it was 298 00:20:09,580 --> 00:20:12,380 Speaker 3: from you or from our church, but those 30 days 299 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:16,020 Speaker 3: of prayer during Ramadan. There's wonderful things online. You know, 300 00:20:16,060 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 3: we'll put a link to these things, you know, going forward. 301 00:20:19,700 --> 00:20:22,679 Speaker 3: Ramadan will be in February. And I remember with our 302 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:25,290 Speaker 3: children growing up, we would take the month of Ramadan 303 00:20:25,350 --> 00:20:29,129 Speaker 3: at breakfast. We would read the devotional about another Muslim 304 00:20:29,150 --> 00:20:32,210 Speaker 3: people group. Each day was a different group and the 305 00:20:32,250 --> 00:20:35,389 Speaker 3: prayer requests and what's God doing. So it's a simple 306 00:20:35,430 --> 00:20:38,050 Speaker 3: thing for families to do and to join in this 307 00:20:38,109 --> 00:20:38,909 Speaker 3: movement of prayer. 308 00:20:39,070 --> 00:20:39,429 Speaker 1: Amen. 309 00:20:39,490 --> 00:20:41,470 Speaker 3: It's so wonderfully important. 310 00:20:41,940 --> 00:20:42,290 Speaker 1: Thank you. 311 00:20:42,910 --> 00:20:45,250 Speaker 2: And I want to say what an inspiration you have been. 312 00:20:45,550 --> 00:20:48,429 Speaker 2: First of all, when you first said, hey, if you 313 00:20:48,450 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 2: just prayed for Mohammeds, all the hundreds of millions of 314 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 2: Mohammeds every day, you would. You'd be praying for the 315 00:20:55,660 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 2: open hearts of hundreds and hundreds of millions of people. 316 00:20:58,340 --> 00:21:00,500 Speaker 2: Then you said, if you want to add the name 317 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:03,780 Speaker 2: Ali in there, if you want to add Fatima, I mean, 318 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:08,459 Speaker 2: you're covering a lot of people because they're such common names. 319 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,780 Speaker 2: And that has been something Lynn and I have practiced, 320 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,260 Speaker 2: what you have taught us. I also want to say 321 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,939 Speaker 2: you have inspired us. Obviously, this is what you do 322 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:21,530 Speaker 2: every day. Our focus is primarily Jews in terms of 323 00:21:21,670 --> 00:21:25,850 Speaker 2: our personal witness, but the Joshua Fund funds an enormous 324 00:21:25,910 --> 00:21:29,330 Speaker 2: amount of projects, including some directly with you and Life 325 00:21:29,390 --> 00:21:33,190 Speaker 2: Agape over the years. The first ever Christian radio station 326 00:21:33,310 --> 00:21:35,969 Speaker 2: in Iraq was a project we worked on together. And 327 00:21:36,010 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 2: that's still amazing. Ninety seven point one or ninety seven 328 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:42,300 Speaker 2: point three. I forget now in northern Iraq is still running. 329 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,619 Speaker 2: Praise God. But the other thing is, when I started 330 00:21:45,700 --> 00:21:49,119 Speaker 2: getting opportunities to travel into the Muslim world because of 331 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:53,620 Speaker 2: my novel writing, I was so emboldened, even as a Jew, 332 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:57,260 Speaker 2: even as a Joel Rosenberg. to try to be a witness, 333 00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 2: even though I don't speak Arabic. So I remember getting 334 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:04,260 Speaker 2: invited the man who was the head of all Islamic 335 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:07,109 Speaker 2: affairs in an Arab country. He was in charge of 336 00:22:07,109 --> 00:22:10,449 Speaker 2: 33,000 mosques. That was his job. And he read one 337 00:22:10,470 --> 00:22:12,750 Speaker 2: of my novels in his country. Somebody had given him 338 00:22:12,790 --> 00:22:15,990 Speaker 2: a copy. And so he contacted me when we lived 339 00:22:16,030 --> 00:22:18,330 Speaker 2: in Washington, D.C. at the time and said, hey, I'm 340 00:22:18,390 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 2: coming to town. I'd like to meet you. And I'm 341 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:24,340 Speaker 2: kind of curious about you. And I'd never met a 342 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:28,550 Speaker 2: director of the Islamic affairs division of this, of a country. Like, 343 00:22:29,130 --> 00:22:31,070 Speaker 2: so we said, yes, but we said, you know, it's 344 00:22:31,150 --> 00:22:35,410 Speaker 2: Passover when you're coming. So we're going to be having Passover. 345 00:22:35,430 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 2: So anyway, so he was curious in learning about Passover. 346 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,619 Speaker 2: We were curious, you know, to be respectful about Ramadan 347 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,719 Speaker 2: and elsewhere. And then he invited me to his country. 348 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,100 Speaker 2: And a few months later, I went to his country 349 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 2: and he had this big dinner party for me. And he, 350 00:22:51,950 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 2: He said an Islamic prayer. We all sat down. And 351 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:57,360 Speaker 2: then he said, now, Joel, something that's been bothering me 352 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,370 Speaker 2: ever since I came to your home. And you were 353 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,210 Speaker 2: so kind to invite me. But how can you be 354 00:23:03,470 --> 00:23:07,419 Speaker 2: Jewish and believe in Jesus? Like I don't understand how 355 00:23:07,460 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 2: you could be a Rosenberg and be an evangelical Christian. 356 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,139 Speaker 2: What is that all about? This is in front of 357 00:23:12,380 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 2: all of his, like this was top cabinet ministers and 358 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,750 Speaker 2: other like, and I thought, Oh, I'm, I'm having a 359 00:23:18,830 --> 00:23:23,210 Speaker 2: Henry own moment. This is not my normal life, but 360 00:23:23,290 --> 00:23:26,090 Speaker 2: you know, but I've been mentored. It's been given an 361 00:23:26,130 --> 00:23:28,929 Speaker 2: example from me. I better step up. And it was 362 00:23:28,950 --> 00:23:31,649 Speaker 2: a wonderful opportunity. And just the first, that was the 363 00:23:31,710 --> 00:23:34,980 Speaker 2: first opportunity like that. But, you know, to the crown 364 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,380 Speaker 2: prince of Saudi Arabia and to others over the time, 365 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 2: it's been amazing. And I just want to say to 366 00:23:40,380 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 2: our audience, what an inspiration you and your wife. Now, 367 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:47,970 Speaker 2: your wife, very sadly to you, to us, went home 368 00:23:48,070 --> 00:23:51,169 Speaker 2: to be with the Lord last year. She's having the 369 00:23:51,210 --> 00:23:54,129 Speaker 2: time of her life. And now Lynn's mom is in 370 00:23:54,190 --> 00:23:55,950 Speaker 2: heaven and my mom is now in heaven. 371 00:23:55,990 --> 00:24:00,170 Speaker 3: And so I think they're watching Peter Sellers movies together 372 00:24:00,230 --> 00:24:00,669 Speaker 3: and laughing. 373 00:24:00,690 --> 00:24:01,110 Speaker 1: Yeah. 374 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 2: We miss them all and we miss Ruthie dearly, but 375 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,030 Speaker 2: you guys have set an example for Lynn and me. And, 376 00:24:11,570 --> 00:24:13,490 Speaker 2: and I just want to say thank you for that. 377 00:24:13,670 --> 00:24:18,590 Speaker 2: Shukran Habibi for that, because you've helped teach us and 378 00:24:18,609 --> 00:24:21,770 Speaker 2: you've helped model stuff for us. And now just in 379 00:24:21,790 --> 00:24:23,909 Speaker 2: the last year, we said, I know you've got a 380 00:24:24,130 --> 00:24:26,470 Speaker 2: lot on your plate. You're not running the whole ministry 381 00:24:26,510 --> 00:24:29,010 Speaker 2: the way you used to, but you're a training, investing, 382 00:24:29,050 --> 00:24:33,159 Speaker 2: encouraging leaders. And that's a lot, but, Would you be 383 00:24:33,220 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 2: willing to come on to the Joshua Fund board? And 384 00:24:37,060 --> 00:24:40,219 Speaker 2: we wanted to ask and we thought, well, God's the 385 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,270 Speaker 2: God of the impossible. But you said yes. And I 386 00:24:43,290 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 2: just wanted you to share. Why did you say yes? 387 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,510 Speaker 2: Why is this ministry something you want to invest time 388 00:24:49,590 --> 00:24:53,250 Speaker 2: in when you're trying to slow down in other areas? 389 00:24:53,810 --> 00:24:57,310 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. You know, I love serving on the board 390 00:24:57,410 --> 00:25:02,220 Speaker 1: of different organizations with whom we partner a lot. And 391 00:25:02,500 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 1: so happened our love for you and our friendship over 392 00:25:06,540 --> 00:25:12,369 Speaker 1: the years. And we have followed you very carefully over 393 00:25:12,619 --> 00:25:16,169 Speaker 1: all these years and have seen how God has blessed 394 00:25:16,210 --> 00:25:22,350 Speaker 1: you with an amazing ministry in Israel and the surrounding 395 00:25:22,470 --> 00:25:26,630 Speaker 1: and its neighbors. And I love this theme, you know, 396 00:25:26,950 --> 00:25:32,150 Speaker 1: that you want to see Israel being blessed, the Israeli people, 397 00:25:32,490 --> 00:25:35,490 Speaker 1: the Jewish people being blessed, but you don't want to 398 00:25:35,530 --> 00:25:40,190 Speaker 1: neglect the neighbors. Because that's what God taught us from 399 00:25:40,230 --> 00:25:43,030 Speaker 1: the very beginning in the Old Testament, you know, in 400 00:25:43,070 --> 00:25:46,820 Speaker 1: the Torah. Be loving to the strangers in your land. 401 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,940 Speaker 1: When Solomon stood up to pray, you know, in front 402 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:56,020 Speaker 1: of the temple, dedicating the temple, he prayed also for 403 00:25:56,060 --> 00:26:00,640 Speaker 1: the foreigners, you know, in the land. which means this 404 00:26:00,700 --> 00:26:03,540 Speaker 1: is the way God wants us. And I have loved 405 00:26:04,100 --> 00:26:07,899 Speaker 1: the way you have kept this commitment to bless the 406 00:26:07,980 --> 00:26:12,060 Speaker 1: Israeli people as well as the neighbors. And I have 407 00:26:12,140 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 1: watched you, and I have known your colleagues who work 408 00:26:16,740 --> 00:26:21,109 Speaker 1: specifically in the neighboring countries, and I loved them, and 409 00:26:21,150 --> 00:26:25,050 Speaker 1: I loved the way they were working. And as Ruthie 410 00:26:25,090 --> 00:26:27,710 Speaker 1: and I really prayed, that was before she passed away, 411 00:26:28,140 --> 00:26:32,710 Speaker 1: We prayed about the idea of the Joshua Fund board, 412 00:26:33,390 --> 00:26:37,189 Speaker 1: and we both had peace about it. But I couldn't 413 00:26:37,510 --> 00:26:41,910 Speaker 1: really join until because I was taking care of her 414 00:26:42,330 --> 00:26:50,700 Speaker 1: at that time. But we believe that blessing Israel along 415 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 1: with the neighbors is exactly what God wants us to do. 416 00:26:55,390 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: And I want to come alongside you and encourage you 417 00:27:01,410 --> 00:27:05,659 Speaker 1: to that end. And if there's anything I can help 418 00:27:06,260 --> 00:27:11,180 Speaker 1: on the ground, whether in Israel or in the neighboring countries, 419 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:16,479 Speaker 1: I want to do that. I've had many opportunities to 420 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:20,260 Speaker 1: share the gospel, not just with Arabs, but also with 421 00:27:20,420 --> 00:27:24,260 Speaker 1: Jewish people, even here in France. Even in the U.S., 422 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:28,500 Speaker 1: I've had a chance to, actually the one person who 423 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,740 Speaker 1: helped me the most, you know, when I was struggling 424 00:27:31,869 --> 00:27:35,070 Speaker 1: as a student in the U.S., was a Jewish person, 425 00:27:35,530 --> 00:27:38,890 Speaker 1: Harvey Kushner. I'll never forget that. He took me under 426 00:27:38,950 --> 00:27:41,590 Speaker 1: his wings and he helped me a lot, you know. 427 00:27:41,790 --> 00:27:45,650 Speaker 1: And my father, I grew up, he told me, he 428 00:27:45,750 --> 00:27:49,370 Speaker 1: always said, you know, if you want something done right, 429 00:27:49,830 --> 00:27:53,310 Speaker 1: give it to a Jew or an Armenian. And I 430 00:27:53,330 --> 00:27:56,910 Speaker 1: would tell him why. And he would say, they have 431 00:27:57,030 --> 00:28:04,020 Speaker 1: the best work ethics ever. My father was a very detailed, 432 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:11,030 Speaker 1: hardworking man, raised an amazing family of seven kids with 433 00:28:11,310 --> 00:28:16,169 Speaker 1: our grandparents. So having 12, 14 people around the table 434 00:28:16,210 --> 00:28:19,469 Speaker 1: for every meal was the norm for us growing up. 435 00:28:19,869 --> 00:28:26,610 Speaker 1: But he... had high work ethics, and he appreciated the 436 00:28:26,730 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 1: Jewish and the Armenian, you know, work ethics. And I 437 00:28:32,100 --> 00:28:36,879 Speaker 1: grew up loving Jewish people, loving Arabs, loving Armenians, loving 438 00:28:37,220 --> 00:28:40,900 Speaker 1: people from all backgrounds. I love it, you know. In 439 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:45,010 Speaker 1: just two days, I'm having someone who's from Kurdish background, 440 00:28:45,790 --> 00:28:48,570 Speaker 1: second time going to come to my house, stay two, 441 00:28:48,650 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: three days, He said, I just want to come and 442 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 1: learn from you. I said, come. And he's coming on Sunday. 443 00:28:55,620 --> 00:28:56,220 Speaker 2: We're jealous. 444 00:28:58,380 --> 00:29:00,930 Speaker 1: He'll be with me for two or three days. Nice. 445 00:29:00,950 --> 00:29:06,210 Speaker 1: From Kurdish Syrian background. I love meeting people from different 446 00:29:06,290 --> 00:29:10,910 Speaker 1: backgrounds because that's the kingdom of God. The kingdom of 447 00:29:10,950 --> 00:29:15,310 Speaker 1: God is not one single people group. He said from 448 00:29:15,550 --> 00:29:21,190 Speaker 1: every tribe, from every nation, from every tongue. Because inside 449 00:29:21,250 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 1: the country, there are people who speak different languages. So specifically, 450 00:29:26,460 --> 00:29:31,060 Speaker 1: Jesus said from every tongue. And that's the kingdom of God. 451 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 1: And that's the way I want to live. And that's 452 00:29:33,860 --> 00:29:36,990 Speaker 1: why I love Joshua Fund and the theme you have, 453 00:29:37,350 --> 00:29:41,620 Speaker 1: Blessing Israel and Its Neighbors. That's the key. It's wonderful. 454 00:29:41,660 --> 00:29:45,740 Speaker 2: Thank you. We are so grateful to you. We miss 455 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:51,510 Speaker 2: Ruthie terribly. We look forward to inviting more Jews and 456 00:29:51,610 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 2: Muslims to come into the kingdom of Christ and mostly 457 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 2: to meet Jesus, but also to meet you and to 458 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 2: meet her in due time. We're going to have you back. 459 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,030 Speaker 2: You've been on the podcast before. We've talked a lot 460 00:30:03,070 --> 00:30:06,030 Speaker 2: about what God is doing in Lebanon and the importance 461 00:30:06,070 --> 00:30:09,590 Speaker 2: of praying for peace between Israel and Lebanon and to 462 00:30:09,610 --> 00:30:12,730 Speaker 2: be set free from the Iranian and Hezbollah sort of slavery. 463 00:30:13,090 --> 00:30:15,170 Speaker 2: We're going to keep talking about that. There's so many 464 00:30:15,210 --> 00:30:18,010 Speaker 2: more stories that I know of that I want you 465 00:30:18,050 --> 00:30:19,580 Speaker 2: to share and that Lynn wants you to share. And 466 00:30:19,620 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 2: there's many more that we don't know, but we do 467 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,990 Speaker 2: have to, to land the plane for today. I'm going 468 00:30:25,010 --> 00:30:26,430 Speaker 2: to have Lynn close us in a moment, but I'll 469 00:30:26,450 --> 00:30:29,450 Speaker 2: just say, folks, I just encourage you to be praying 470 00:30:29,510 --> 00:30:32,010 Speaker 2: for Henry, that God would continue to use him, and 471 00:30:32,030 --> 00:30:34,370 Speaker 2: for all the members of our board. We're so grateful 472 00:30:34,430 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 2: for them. And I also want you to invite you 473 00:30:37,450 --> 00:30:39,739 Speaker 2: to come to the land of Israel, right? We talk 474 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 2: about learn and pray. and give and go. This is 475 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:48,230 Speaker 2: part of the learning. And we've talked about praying. We 476 00:30:49,410 --> 00:30:52,030 Speaker 2: certainly would love you to give financially to the Joshua Fund. 477 00:30:52,070 --> 00:30:58,490 Speaker 2: And you can go to joshuafund.com. Again, joshuafund.com. And you'll 478 00:30:58,510 --> 00:31:00,330 Speaker 2: see a donate button right at the top. It'll walk 479 00:31:00,370 --> 00:31:04,190 Speaker 2: you through. You can make a secure online donation. And 480 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,140 Speaker 2: if you became a monthly donor, that would be really wonderful. 481 00:31:07,140 --> 00:31:10,820 Speaker 2: $ 50 a $ 75 a month or more, if you're able, 482 00:31:11,140 --> 00:31:13,940 Speaker 2: that helps us know that you are consistently with us 483 00:31:14,020 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 2: if you become a monthly donor. We appreciate a one-time gift, 484 00:31:17,100 --> 00:31:19,740 Speaker 2: of course. We'd be super grateful. But if you become 485 00:31:19,780 --> 00:31:23,190 Speaker 2: a monthly donor, that would be very, very extra special 486 00:31:23,330 --> 00:31:25,810 Speaker 2: and wonderful. But we also want you to come on 487 00:31:25,850 --> 00:31:29,830 Speaker 2: the Joshua Fund's tour of Israel, our prayer and vision tour. 488 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 2: and to the Epicenter Summit, which we'll talk about more 489 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:38,140 Speaker 2: in upcoming episodes. But that's next spring, March 31st to 490 00:31:38,260 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 2: April 9th is the tour of Israel. And April 7th 491 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 2: will be the Epicenter Summit. Henry will be with us, 492 00:31:45,700 --> 00:31:48,620 Speaker 2: Lord willing. We're very much looking forward to having him 493 00:31:49,140 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 2: and hopefully speaking as well. And it's just going to 494 00:31:52,500 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 2: be an amazing time and we want you to come. 495 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 2: But we are out of time. Speaking of time, Lynn, 496 00:31:57,180 --> 00:31:59,730 Speaker 2: would you just tie things together and we we will 497 00:31:59,770 --> 00:32:04,810 Speaker 2: wrap up this wonderful 20th anniversary episode talking about our 498 00:32:04,870 --> 00:32:08,310 Speaker 2: love for Henry and what he's taught us about how 499 00:32:08,330 --> 00:32:11,310 Speaker 2: to love the neighbors better than we ever knew. 500 00:32:11,330 --> 00:32:13,430 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely. 501 00:32:13,450 --> 00:32:15,770 Speaker 3: Thank you so much. This has been such a sweet time. 502 00:32:15,870 --> 00:32:18,470 Speaker 3: And we're, yeah, we can't say it enough how grateful 503 00:32:18,490 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 3: we are. But, you know, and when I, one of 504 00:32:21,060 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 3: the things that stood out for me, even in just 505 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:26,090 Speaker 3: in this last 30 minutes together is, you can teach 506 00:32:26,130 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 3: people to do evangelism, you can teach people to do discipleship, 507 00:32:29,660 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 3: but modeling it and doing it every day, and that's 508 00:32:33,820 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 3: part of your heartbeat, is something that you've modeled for us. 509 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:40,770 Speaker 3: You haven't just told us to do it, you've done 510 00:32:40,790 --> 00:32:42,150 Speaker 3: it and showed us how to do it. And I 511 00:32:42,190 --> 00:32:44,910 Speaker 3: think for all of our listeners, that's a great takeaway, 512 00:32:44,950 --> 00:32:47,990 Speaker 3: I think. Am I walking in the good works that 513 00:32:48,010 --> 00:32:49,810 Speaker 3: the Lord's put in front of me? Do I wake 514 00:32:49,850 --> 00:32:51,810 Speaker 3: up every day and I say, Lord, who am I 515 00:32:51,850 --> 00:32:55,780 Speaker 3: supposed to talk to about you, you know, and what 516 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 3: a great idea to bring a New Testament in our 517 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:02,100 Speaker 3: backpacks to pray, to know there's this great prayer movement. 518 00:33:02,260 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 3: And so the fields are white for harvest. And so, yeah, 519 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,420 Speaker 3: just continue to look around in your own backyard. We 520 00:33:09,460 --> 00:33:12,459 Speaker 3: have Muslim and Jewish friends and neighbors all around us 521 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 3: that need the gospel as well as all people, of course. 522 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 3: And so Thank you, Henry, for these stories. And we 523 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 3: have a lot to take away, I think, from even 524 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 3: just these last 30 minutes to put into practice. So 525 00:33:24,100 --> 00:33:27,010 Speaker 3: thank you all for listening to this episode of Inside 526 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,650 Speaker 3: the Epicenter. We look forward to seeing you next time. 527 00:33:30,050 --> 00:33:33,750 Speaker 3: But for now, we'll say shalom from Jerusalem and see 528 00:33:33,770 --> 00:33:34,230 Speaker 3: you next time. 529 00:33:34,950 --> 00:33:35,489 Speaker 2: God bless you. 530 00:33:39,460 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 3: Thank you.