WEBVTT - Why did Women Move Left, While Men Didn't?

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Charlie Kirk.

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<v Speaker 2>I run the largest pro American student organization in the country,

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<v Speaker 2>fighting for the future of our republic. My call is

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<v Speaker 2>to fight evil and to proclaim truth. If the most

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<v Speaker 2>important thing for you is just feeling good, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>end up miserable. But if the most important thing is

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<v Speaker 2>You got to stop sending your kids to college. You

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<v Speaker 2>would say, college chapter. Go start aturning point, yould say

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<v Speaker 2>you to do the same.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, welcome back hour too.

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<v Speaker 4>That Charlie Kirk Show is underway and we have Sean Davis,

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<v Speaker 4>co founder and CEO of the Federalists, joining us.

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<v Speaker 3>Sean, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. Good to

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<v Speaker 3>have you, my friend.

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<v Speaker 1>Good to be back. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>I called you about this story because I am raising

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<v Speaker 4>a five alarm, five alarm fire for the state of Virginia.

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<v Speaker 4>What is happening there, I think is a precursor that

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<v Speaker 4>portends ill for the entire country, especially with the midterms.

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<v Speaker 3>You get a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 4>Talking about, Oh, I don't feel good about the midterms.

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<v Speaker 4>I think we can win the midterms. I think the

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<v Speaker 4>economic numbers are going to give us win to our sales,

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<v Speaker 4>but it's going to be an uphill battle. Plus you've

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<v Speaker 4>got the Senate races, you got house races that are

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<v Speaker 4>gonna be hotly contested, governor's mansions, all all of those

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<v Speaker 4>races in between. Tell us about Virginia. You've spent a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of time in Virginia. Your partner, Molly's based in Virginia.

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<v Speaker 4>I believe over the Federalist and I mean, we all

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<v Speaker 4>have a lot of friends there. This is bad what

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<v Speaker 4>they are doing. In a matter of days. This is

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<v Speaker 4>like the shokun Off. Firste hundred days of the Trump administration,

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<v Speaker 4>only Democrat style in a blue state that only went

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<v Speaker 4>for Kamala Harris by six points.

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<v Speaker 5>With the legislature that will pass things, with a legislature

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<v Speaker 5>that high minded Democrats will actually pass things, unlike you know,

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<v Speaker 5>our our.

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<v Speaker 4>Rowdy bunch of congressional folks that are very independent minded, Sean,

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<v Speaker 4>what do you make of this?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Virginia is fascinating because, yes, in presidentials it's been

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<v Speaker 1>blue I think since eight but it's not that blue

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<v Speaker 1>of a state. So they just had a red governor

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<v Speaker 1>in Glenn Youngkin for four years. It's not uncommon for

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<v Speaker 1>them to have red majorities in the state legislature in

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<v Speaker 1>either house. So this isn't a massive blue state like

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<v Speaker 1>a Vermont or a Massachusetts or New York. It's actually

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<v Speaker 1>pretty purple. A lot of people like to analogisee it

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<v Speaker 1>to Colorado. It's not. It's definitely more towards the center

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<v Speaker 1>than Colorado, but it's faced a similar takeover. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think what's happening there is a major microcosm, a really

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<v Speaker 1>important microcosm for what's happening in the country writ large,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're seeing it in this woman, Abigail Spamberger, career Democrat,

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<v Speaker 1>was a former CIA stooge. She presents as a moderate.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh look, I'm just like a pretty blonde, nice moderate lady.

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<v Speaker 1>When she is a radical left wing ideologue. And when

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<v Speaker 1>she came in, despite Virginia not being a super blue state,

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<v Speaker 1>she does what Democrats always do because Democrats understand power.

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<v Speaker 1>She's going in and even though she only got you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll say like fifty five percent of the vote, whatever

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<v Speaker 1>it is, she's not saying, oh, we're only going to

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<v Speaker 1>do fifty five percent of what we want. We are

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<v Speaker 1>going to do one hundred percent what we want because

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<v Speaker 1>you can't do anything to stop it. And it's scary

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<v Speaker 1>because the Democrat Party has become so radical. It's abortion

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<v Speaker 1>on demand, it's gutting a law that protected babies who

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<v Speaker 1>survived abortions. It's making illegal immigration enforcement illegal itself. It's

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<v Speaker 1>making the whole state a sanctuary. It's banning guns, it's

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<v Speaker 1>doing speech crackdowns. When Democrats get in power, because they

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<v Speaker 1>understand power, they wield it ruthlessly, and quite honestly is horrifying.

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<v Speaker 1>As I find what she's doing, I'm honestly jealous because

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<v Speaker 1>I would love to have a party representing me all

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<v Speaker 1>throughout Washington, not just in the White House, that understands power,

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<v Speaker 1>how to attain it, how to maintain it, and how

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<v Speaker 1>to wield it. Because the Democrats are putting on an

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<v Speaker 1>absolute clinic in what you actually do when you're in power.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's really well.

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<v Speaker 5>See Sean, we were talking during so you've seen all, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>the abortion stuff, but this really remarkable one that was

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<v Speaker 5>introduced yesterday, which it would only it's a simple bill

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<v Speaker 5>to rewrite that when a state agency is administering federal funds,

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<v Speaker 5>they are not allowed to impose a requirement on nonprofits

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<v Speaker 5>to check whether anyone receiving a benefit is eligible.

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<v Speaker 3>For that bene. Which is remarkable.

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<v Speaker 4>So their lesson that they are gleaning from the Somali

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<v Speaker 4>fraud scheme that has robbed US taxpayers of probably anywhere

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<v Speaker 4>between ten and nineteen twenty billion dollars in counting. We'll

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<v Speaker 4>see how big it gets when we start uncovering Washington,

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<v Speaker 4>we start uncovering Maine. I'm told there are new immigration

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<v Speaker 4>crackdowns happening in Maine right now targeting the Somali community.

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<v Speaker 4>But their takeaway from this is that we want to

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<v Speaker 4>block oversight we want to block accountability. And I just

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<v Speaker 4>cannot get over this, Sean that anything we do, even

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<v Speaker 4>if it makes sense, even if we cure cancer, their

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<v Speaker 4>party's reaction is to run the other way and to

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<v Speaker 4>just put their head in the sand, complete ostrich act

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<v Speaker 4>like it didn't happen, and defend what they think are

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<v Speaker 4>their values. What are their values here, Sean, That they

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<v Speaker 4>like fraud, that they like misuse of taxpayer funding and

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<v Speaker 4>there has to be a federal bonds to stuff that

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<v Speaker 4>is this insane? But I don't know if this is

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<v Speaker 4>a psychological dilemma. I don't know if this is this

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<v Speaker 4>is something that needs to be studied from a sociological level.

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<v Speaker 4>But this is patently insane, and I cannot, for the

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<v Speaker 4>life of me look at what Donald Trump and the

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<v Speaker 4>president immigration, economic, what we're accomplishing, and see why they

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<v Speaker 4>hate it so much.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I think it's easy. It's an uncomfortable answer, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's an easy one, and that it's entirely spiritual. If

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<v Speaker 1>you look at something and you want to figure out

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<v Speaker 1>which one is the good side and which is the

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<v Speaker 1>bad side, look at the side that wants things to

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<v Speaker 1>be ugly and chaotic and disorderly and manic. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>bad side. Look at the side that wants to make

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<v Speaker 1>things beautiful, that believes in order and putting things where

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<v Speaker 1>they belong. That's the good side. And it's because the

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<v Speaker 1>good reflects our Creator, who is perfect and good and orderly.

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<v Speaker 1>We worship and we were made by a God of order,

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<v Speaker 1>not a god of chaos. So I think it is

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely spiritual at its very core, and that we're never

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<v Speaker 1>going to get around that. So often we try to

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<v Speaker 1>talk around it and be like, well, it's about ideologies

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<v Speaker 1>and philosophies and blah blah blah. That's all downstream from

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<v Speaker 1>your worldview, which is built on a foundation of where

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<v Speaker 1>you see yourself in the cosmic order, where you believe

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<v Speaker 1>in a great creator, whether you believe in inherent good

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<v Speaker 1>and inherent evil. The Democrat Party is evil. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>come out and say it. It's evil. It's why it

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<v Speaker 1>wants to kill babies, it's why it wants to eviscerate borders.

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<v Speaker 1>It's why it wants to eliminate mandatory minimum sentence for rapists,

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<v Speaker 1>for child exployers, for people who attack cops, for people

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<v Speaker 1>guilty of manslaughter and murder, and I will say on

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<v Speaker 1>spam Berger again, Democrats understand power. You'll hear Republicans when

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<v Speaker 1>they get in power, because they're terrified of wielding it,

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<v Speaker 1>say things like, well, politics is the art of the possible,

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<v Speaker 1>and they'll lecture you very smugly on it. No, it's not.

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<v Speaker 1>Politics is about rewarding your friends and punisharing your enemies,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Democrats do it brilliantly. So the foreigners, the Somalis,

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<v Speaker 1>the scamsters, the fraudsters, that is the Democrat Party's base,

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<v Speaker 1>that is who is being rewarded here. The Democrat Party

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<v Speaker 1>cannot exist without shipping these people in, making them rich

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<v Speaker 1>and getting them to use their fraud bucks to elect

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<v Speaker 1>more Democrats. So that's what they're doing. And again there

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<v Speaker 1>is a lesson here for Republicans to learn. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna learn the wrong one. But the lesson here

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<v Speaker 1>is when you get in power, you wield it ruthlessly

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<v Speaker 1>and you support the people who put you there.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean, listen, you know, probably I'm naive, Sean,

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<v Speaker 4>but when you say that politics is about punishing your

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<v Speaker 4>enemies and rewarding your friends, there's like this part of

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<v Speaker 4>me that you know, remembers, you know, watching the World

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<v Speaker 4>War two movies and the John Wayne movies, and like,

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<v Speaker 4>I gotta think you know that we as Americans can

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<v Speaker 4>you know, ban together. It's some some sort of elevated

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<v Speaker 4>pitch than that, because man, that's that's a really dark realit.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't disagree with you functionally, you know, I think

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<v Speaker 4>of this in terms of the American Empire, right, Like,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, listen, we're gonna we're gonna exert our force

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<v Speaker 4>abroad because we're the most powerful, and we're gonna take

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<v Speaker 4>care of our own, our own people.

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<v Speaker 3>I totally get that.

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<v Speaker 4>But when you come to the domestic front, but you

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<v Speaker 4>hope that it's gonna be different. But it's hard to

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<v Speaker 4>disagree with you. Man, it's hard to disagree with you

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<v Speaker 4>that when you are confronted by an ideological force that

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<v Speaker 4>is so dark, that is killing babies, that wants chaos,

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<v Speaker 4>that wants criminals on its streets. I mean, this is

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<v Speaker 4>what they're doing. They're defending criminal illegals that are child.

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<v Speaker 6>They're very evil.

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<v Speaker 5>I actually will I actually do a little disagree with this.

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<v Speaker 6>You hear this.

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<v Speaker 5>It's all about rewarding friends, punishing enemies. It's this Karl

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<v Speaker 5>Schmidt thing. We can talk about him sometime.

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<v Speaker 3>You've sparked debated here.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh, it definitely will. It definitely will.

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<v Speaker 5>But I think it is important a message like don't

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<v Speaker 5>don't be a wuss, don't be a coward, and like,

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<v Speaker 5>actually think about what you're able to do, because Republicans

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<v Speaker 5>love to just be inert.

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<v Speaker 6>They're kind of lazy.

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<v Speaker 5>It's like, think about all the DEI departments that just

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<v Speaker 5>sat around in red states forever. That's not You don't

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<v Speaker 5>need to frame that in terms of oh, reward allies

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<v Speaker 5>punished enemies. You just frame that in terms of don't

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<v Speaker 5>don't be an idiot, don't do things that are obviously

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<v Speaker 5>against your value.

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<v Speaker 1>But they're not lazy. Ask Zelensky how lazy they are.

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<v Speaker 1>They will shovel bucks out America into that little midget's

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<v Speaker 1>mouth faster than you can blink. They're not lazy. They're cowards,

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<v Speaker 1>and they have a very different idea of who they're

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be serving than we are. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's the main problem.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and by the way, Sean, I completely agree with you.

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<v Speaker 4>This is a spiritual war. I've got a clip from

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<v Speaker 4>Charlie teed Up that We're going to play on the

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<v Speaker 4>other side of his break. That underscores your point, and

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<v Speaker 4>I completely agree. At some level, the insanity just becomes

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<v Speaker 4>so brazen and so you know, nonsensical that what it

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<v Speaker 4>has to be.

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<v Speaker 3>It's demonic.

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<v Speaker 6>Howdy Blake here.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, in moments like this, truth really matters. The

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<v Speaker 4>All right, Sean Davis, just to underscore your point, you

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<v Speaker 4>are the co founder CEO of the Federalist Great Publication.

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<v Speaker 3>I check it every day. That is not a lie.

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<v Speaker 4>You guys are doing amazing work, huge service to our country.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna play this is Charlie with Tucker talking about

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<v Speaker 4>this exact thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Three point fifty one.

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<v Speaker 2>This is why your faith is the most important thing,

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<v Speaker 2>because for those of us that are Christians, you actually

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<v Speaker 2>see what's going on, which is that we do not

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<v Speaker 2>wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities and darkness

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<v Speaker 2>and spirits. That there is a spiritual war here. There

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<v Speaker 2>is a God and we are not him. That there

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<v Speaker 2>is an entire dimension of angels and demons and spirits

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<v Speaker 2>that are constantly struggling struggling around us, and that there

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<v Speaker 2>is a supernatural dimension.

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<v Speaker 4>Charlie was super tuned into this. I think we are

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<v Speaker 4>as well here, Sean, so I totally agree. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know how else you explain the insanity that we've lived under.

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<v Speaker 4>And it almost feels like in the ear of Trump,

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<v Speaker 4>it's like the demons are shrieking, and so now they're

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<v Speaker 4>just it's like total mask off, the veil is torn.

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<v Speaker 4>They're out in the open amongst us, because how else

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<v Speaker 4>do you explain the radicalness and the brazenness of a

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<v Speaker 4>D plus sixth state going full Marxist, going full Marxist.

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<v Speaker 4>But I digress, Sean, unless you want to chime in

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<v Speaker 4>on that. But I do want to talk about a

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<v Speaker 4>year in review for.

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<v Speaker 1>Me kind of the it was made obvious as the

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<v Speaker 1>whole trans thing reared its disgusting little head. If you

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<v Speaker 1>can't agree on just the basis of reality of whether

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<v Speaker 1>boys or boys or girls and girls, clearly there's something

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<v Speaker 1>going on but beyond the conscious rational level, and it

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<v Speaker 1>can only be spiritual.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, So that's the bad and the ugly, but there

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<v Speaker 4>is good happening. One year in review of President Trump,

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<v Speaker 4>let's just play part one of this three forty seven.

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<v Speaker 7>Our sovereignty will be reclaimed.

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<v Speaker 4>There have been ninety two people charged in this fraud

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<v Speaker 4>scheme in Minnesota.

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<v Speaker 6>Mcduro Venezuela. What they're doing. They're trying to kill our kids.

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<v Speaker 2>They're trying to bring drugs into our country.

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<v Speaker 5>It's not going to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna come after you after Venezuelan President Nico las

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<v Speaker 2>Maduro sits in a federal jail in Brooklyn.

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<v Speaker 8>Escorted by Drug Enforcement Administrator Terry Cole.

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<v Speaker 5>Thanks to the relentless work of our prosecutors and our

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<v Speaker 5>federal agents, El Maaya will spend the rest of his

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<v Speaker 5>life behind bars.

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<v Speaker 8>Our safety will be restored.

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<v Speaker 3>Murders of the US are on pace for the largest

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<v Speaker 3>one year drop.

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<v Speaker 1>I shall police say, homicides and robberies are at multi

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<v Speaker 1>year lows.

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<v Speaker 5>The numbers were released by DC Police show a safer

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<v Speaker 5>year for the city in twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's just part one. There's a part two. The

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<v Speaker 4>administration put that out. I thought it was fair and

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<v Speaker 4>it kind of highlighted and reminded me of some things

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<v Speaker 4>that RFK Junior was on with Jesse Waters last night

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<v Speaker 4>on Fox. He said that you know what, he was

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<v Speaker 4>asked what was your number one accomplishment? And it kind

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<v Speaker 4>of surprised people, and he said, what was actually most

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<v Speaker 4>favored nation drug prices are dropping. Trump used tariffs to

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<v Speaker 4>leverage as leverage to negotiate with European partners and drug companies.

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<v Speaker 4>A lot of good stuff is happening Sean in a

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<v Speaker 4>historic sense. Put this, put Trump's one year in office

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<v Speaker 4>in context for us.

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<v Speaker 3>How good has it been? What would you like to

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<v Speaker 3>see more of?

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<v Speaker 2>Well?

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's been spectacular. You know, has been putting

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<v Speaker 1>points on the board across the board. He's completely sealed

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<v Speaker 1>the border. He's fixed the border. He's dealing with immigration,

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<v Speaker 1>he's doing mass deportations. He's made America, say for number one,

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<v Speaker 1>by not doing stupid nonsense everywhere, and number two by

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<v Speaker 1>actually going and dealing with threats discreetly as he finds

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<v Speaker 1>them and then just leaving it at that. A good

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<v Speaker 1>example there would be the Iran nuclear threat, which he dispatched,

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<v Speaker 1>and then going in and kidnapping the dictator of Venezuela

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<v Speaker 1>like he's some sort of historical artifact in the Nick

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<v Speaker 1>Cage heist movie. Then you have the Maha stuff. You

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<v Speaker 1>have RFK Junior kind of resetting these insane vaccine schedules

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<v Speaker 1>that we had for babies. He's fixed the food pyramid,

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<v Speaker 1>which for decades was nonsense and was just telling people, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you need to be just gorging yourselves on carbs because

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<v Speaker 1>that's what your body needs. So we've seen changes on

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<v Speaker 1>that where I think we've really been lacking. And this

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<v Speaker 1>isn't a Trump problem at all. It goes back to

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<v Speaker 1>what we were talking about earlier is totally inapt action

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<v Speaker 1>and an unwillingness to do what needs to be done

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<v Speaker 1>in the Republican Congress. And what we've learned is that

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<v Speaker 1>having a great president is great. It's indispensable. You can't

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<v Speaker 1>get things done without a great president. But you need

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<v Speaker 1>more than just a president doing stuff as the head

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<v Speaker 1>of the executive branch. You have to have people making

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<v Speaker 1>everything he's doing permanent law.

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<v Speaker 3>You have to have them going.

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<v Speaker 5>To the phi pan Son philibus, but nuca filibuster if

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<v Speaker 5>you can pass stuff. But to your point, it would

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<v Speaker 5>actually make a zombie Congress actually do stuff.

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<v Speaker 6>Again, it would, it would, It would make Congress real.

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<v Speaker 5>But that well, it might be that you make Congress

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<v Speaker 5>reel only so people can really very clearly see the

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<v Speaker 5>members of their own party who are It's you know,

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<v Speaker 5>it's like you put on the they live glasses.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, see what the reality. At least we have the

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<v Speaker 3>VETO with President Trump right now.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, so if they pass crazy stuff, okay, we

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<v Speaker 4>get the veto, and then, you know, hopefully by twenty

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<v Speaker 4>twenty eight we regain some mojo. You know, I'm I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know that. I'm becoming way more convinced. The only

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<v Speaker 4>way to make the fake, you know, democracy kind of

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<v Speaker 4>thing that we've got going on right now, where it's

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<v Speaker 4>basically rule by executive order and Congress is completely paralyzed,

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<v Speaker 4>is you got to nuke the filibuster. Let the cards

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<v Speaker 4>out on the table, let's get let's let's see where

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<v Speaker 4>things lie. I mean, I know there's risk in that,

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<v Speaker 4>but there's no other option to get immigration fixed. There's

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<v Speaker 4>no other option to get voter ID fixed.

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<v Speaker 3>Sean, Well, yeah, so I agree.

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<v Speaker 1>I think in a vacuum, you know, it's easier to

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<v Speaker 1>pass things with fifty plus one than it is with sixty.

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<v Speaker 1>But the problem is the composition of that fifty plus one.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think if we were to go in and

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<v Speaker 1>nuke the filibuster today, I don't think they would pass anything.

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<v Speaker 1>I really don't. I think the composition of Republicans in

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<v Speaker 1>Washington is such a huge problem that what we actually

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<v Speaker 1>would need if we wanted to get things passed was

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<v Speaker 1>moved to threshold down to about thirty five. I think

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<v Speaker 1>then you could actually get Republicans to do stuff, and

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<v Speaker 1>so I think it's really really important, especially as we're

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<v Speaker 1>heading into a primary season. Republican voters have to wake up.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not enough to send a Republican to Washington. You

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<v Speaker 1>have to send the right Republican to Washington. If you don't,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't matter what your vote threshold shown, Sty'll have

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<v Speaker 1>find a reason to not do anything.

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<v Speaker 3>Sean.

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<v Speaker 4>What we need to do is we need to have

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<v Speaker 4>you back on with Tyler, and we need to go

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<v Speaker 4>through a list of the races and give people direction

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<v Speaker 4>on it. Honestly, we need to go race by race.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's do that soon, my friend, all right, love it.

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<v Speaker 4>Vittorio, you are joining us now. You had welcome to

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<v Speaker 4>the Charlie Kirk Show. It's great to have you you.

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<v Speaker 7>Uh.

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<v Speaker 4>We talked earlier this morning, just prepping for this. There

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<v Speaker 4>was a Bill Ackman tweet where political scientists data quants

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<v Speaker 4>have been telling us this for a half decade, women

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<v Speaker 4>have moved radically leftward at a scale and speed with

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<v Speaker 4>no modern precedent, while men have, on the whole remain

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<v Speaker 4>largely steady and unchanged. You and Bill Lackman asked the

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<v Speaker 4>question why, and you responded and you this really amazing

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<v Speaker 4>article that went viral across the internet. I'd never seen

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<v Speaker 4>your account before that, but now I've seen you multiple places.

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<v Speaker 4>You're now in the algorithm everywhere. So congrats, I'm breaking through.

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<v Speaker 4>And so please welcome to the show and tell us

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<v Speaker 4>give us the basis of your thesis here.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, thanks for having me, it's a pleasure to be here.

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<v Speaker 7>My thesis, I don't know. Personally speaking, I don't think

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<v Speaker 7>I've enlightened people. I mean, I just tried to put

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<v Speaker 7>together things that I thought were known. But first, I'm

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<v Speaker 7>really glad that it was well perceived and were received.

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<v Speaker 7>But my core thesis is that because of some reason,

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<v Speaker 7>there was this convergence of different technologies that allow this

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<v Speaker 7>to happen, and the reason for these happening is that

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<v Speaker 7>men and women are just fundamentally different and we can't

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<v Speaker 7>really do anything about this. A shocking we evolved under

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<v Speaker 7>different apparently, yes, but biological men biological women are fundamentally

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<v Speaker 7>different and we evolved under different kind of selection pressure,

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<v Speaker 7>under kind of evolutionary pressure. That we're very different. And

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<v Speaker 7>that's because we're biologically different. I mean, we are a

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<v Speaker 7>dimorphicsed pieces. We evolve as men and women, and we

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<v Speaker 7>have very different kind of characteristics, like just I mean

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<v Speaker 7>on a very simple level in terms of strength, and

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<v Speaker 7>so women need more defense and men don't necessarily have this.

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<v Speaker 7>So women to be protected, they need something that keeps

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<v Speaker 7>them safe. And once the safety lacks because they don't

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<v Speaker 7>have i would say strong, a good man in their life,

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<v Speaker 7>then they need to find protection and safety into the group.

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<v Speaker 7>And this when technologies as like social media and smartphones

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<v Speaker 7>are available, then the consensus comes from the like the

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<v Speaker 7>group gives you, the consensus gives you, it is protection

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<v Speaker 7>and so it's much more easy for them to be

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<v Speaker 7>polarized because they need to be in agreement with the

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<v Speaker 7>group to feel a sense of belonging.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and you say you describe social media, the rise

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<v Speaker 4>of social media as basically the triggering event. And when

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<v Speaker 4>I thought, this is something that I've thought for a

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<v Speaker 4>long time. So to your earlier point is the ideas

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<v Speaker 4>that I've sort of known and I've been thinking around.

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<v Speaker 4>But you concisely put it into this one article. And

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<v Speaker 4>it's basically like, you got Facebook launched in two thousand

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<v Speaker 4>and four, it was college until two thousand and six,

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<v Speaker 4>the iPhone launches in two thousand and seven, but then

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<v Speaker 4>in about twenty twelve, thirteen and fourteen, you have mass

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<v Speaker 4>adoption of smartphones, and that's about when you start seeing

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<v Speaker 4>this really radical divergence. And it's not just an American phenomenon.

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<v Speaker 4>This is what you point out in graph three fifty five.

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<v Speaker 4>This is I believe we showed this graph when Charlie

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<v Speaker 4>was around with us and he marveled at this as well.

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<v Speaker 4>So South Korea, US, Germany, UK, you get this massive

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<v Speaker 4>divergence between men and women. Now, this graph sort of

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<v Speaker 4>makes it look like men are getting more right wing,

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<v Speaker 4>but actually the data shows that men are sort of

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<v Speaker 4>staying stable, women are becoming more radicalized. But you describe

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<v Speaker 4>the forcing function, as that the Internet is a giant

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<v Speaker 4>algorithmic consensus builder. What do you mean by that and

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<v Speaker 4>why does that affect women more than men?

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<v Speaker 7>Well, because I so it's common to blame social media

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<v Speaker 7>and people who design social media Facebook or whatever, But

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<v Speaker 7>I don't think that social media wants these to happen,

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<v Speaker 7>or at least the owners of social media want these

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<v Speaker 7>to happen. Is that the platform have to be optimized

0:23:56.640 --> 0:24:01.280
<v Speaker 7>for engagement and time spent on the platform. So like,

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<v Speaker 7>if you want to create revenue as a business, you

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<v Speaker 7>need to optimize the time that people spend using your business.

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<v Speaker 7>And in case of social media, they need to spend

0:24:08.400 --> 0:24:12.159
<v Speaker 7>time on it. And men and women react differently to

0:24:12.240 --> 0:24:15.639
<v Speaker 7>different news and women are like this is known that

0:24:15.880 --> 0:24:20.000
<v Speaker 7>we have different personalities. Women are more empathetic, women are

0:24:20.000 --> 0:24:25.399
<v Speaker 7>more agreeable, Women have a higher neuroticism. So a news

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<v Speaker 7>and an event that makes them feel more empathetic and

0:24:29.880 --> 0:24:35.320
<v Speaker 7>present some kind of suffering is resonates more with women

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<v Speaker 7>than with men. And still going back to the fact

0:24:39.680 --> 0:24:44.280
<v Speaker 7>that women are physically weaker than men, women are easier

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<v Speaker 7>to complain than men. Like we grew up and like

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<v Speaker 7>it's always been known that if a man was complaining,

0:24:52.400 --> 0:24:55.280
<v Speaker 7>he had to grow a pair and just men up.

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<v Speaker 7>Women are allowed to complain, and they do complain more

0:24:59.720 --> 0:25:03.080
<v Speaker 7>and media, so social media wants to keep the audience,

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<v Speaker 7>to keep their client and the users, and so like,

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<v Speaker 7>I think it's just inevitable that if the technology is

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<v Speaker 7>not aligned with the substrate of humans, which is biology,

0:25:15.240 --> 0:25:17.080
<v Speaker 7>this happens.

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<v Speaker 6>But that's I think the natural follow up Vittorio.

0:25:20.560 --> 0:25:24.040
<v Speaker 5>So if this is driven by smartphones, which are not

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<v Speaker 5>going away, and if it's driven by social media, which

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<v Speaker 5>is not going away, is there a solution to this

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<v Speaker 5>or are we essentially are we kind of screwed? Are

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<v Speaker 5>we basically going to be dominated by whatever ideological contagion

0:25:39.440 --> 0:25:43.320
<v Speaker 5>sweeps through with the algorithm and takes a majority of

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<v Speaker 5>women along with it, and they're half the voter based

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<v Speaker 5>I don't.

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<v Speaker 7>Know I should black Peel or white Field, but I

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<v Speaker 7>think that like we saw, and there is an autograph

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<v Speaker 7>in the article that shows that married women don't respond

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<v Speaker 7>in this way, and women with children and to be

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<v Speaker 7>more conservative and less radical. So one solution would be

0:26:07.240 --> 0:26:10.520
<v Speaker 7>to bring back families and to have more kids, because

0:26:11.240 --> 0:26:13.679
<v Speaker 7>the biggest problem is that again women are more empathetic,

0:26:13.720 --> 0:26:16.919
<v Speaker 7>and so once you show them the suffering that is

0:26:16.960 --> 0:26:20.520
<v Speaker 7>happening at ten thousand miles away, they will feel as

0:26:20.520 --> 0:26:23.440
<v Speaker 7>if it's happening to them or close to them. But

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<v Speaker 7>once they're married and they have good men in their life,

0:26:26.560 --> 0:26:30.560
<v Speaker 7>then they tend to follow. And once they have kids,

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<v Speaker 7>then they tend to focus more on the kids. And

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<v Speaker 7>that's just again it's natural evolutionary for them. So by

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know, pushing more for a marriage and bringing

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<v Speaker 7>back the marriage institution which is not just a legal

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<v Speaker 7>document that you can sign and just know the next day,

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<v Speaker 7>and making like, I don't know, I'm Christian, and so

0:26:51.520 --> 0:26:54.919
<v Speaker 7>for me, marriage is sacred and is an oath that

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<v Speaker 7>you make in front of God, so you cannot go

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<v Speaker 7>back to your world. And I also do think that

0:26:59.520 --> 0:27:01.480
<v Speaker 7>that's the reason and why it was that up in

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<v Speaker 7>that way, because you should not be allowed to go

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<v Speaker 7>back from your your promise. But by making it so

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<v Speaker 7>like no full divorce and so easy to rescind, then

0:27:11.840 --> 0:27:13.879
<v Speaker 7>people are like, if it's just a piece of paper,

0:27:13.920 --> 0:27:16.080
<v Speaker 7>what's the point of doing that. And so I do

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<v Speaker 7>believe that by bringing back and trying to re establish

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<v Speaker 7>the institution of marriage and pushing for more kids, which

0:27:24.200 --> 0:27:26.800
<v Speaker 7>again this is the black people because it's the next

0:27:26.800 --> 0:27:29.560
<v Speaker 7>problem is that people are not having kids. But I

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<v Speaker 7>do think that in terms of the radicalization, there is

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<v Speaker 7>a solution. Now the solution has his own problem.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so Vittoria, I love this part. So listen our audience.

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<v Speaker 4>We have a lot of Christian conservatives that may not

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<v Speaker 4>even ascribe to evolution, right, so I'm not even getting

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<v Speaker 4>into that. But the way you word it, I just

0:27:46.160 --> 0:27:48.600
<v Speaker 4>wanted to preface that you could just believe that God

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<v Speaker 4>made men and women different and for different functions and forms.

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<v Speaker 3>And this your point still still works. He said.

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<v Speaker 4>Men face different pressures hunting parties gone for day, it's exploration, combat.

0:27:58.840 --> 0:28:01.440
<v Speaker 4>You had to tolerate being alone, disliked outside the group

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<v Speaker 4>for extended periods. Men who could handle temporary exclusion without

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<v Speaker 4>falling apart had more options, more risk taking, more independence,

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<v Speaker 4>more ability to leave bad situation. And you said, but

0:28:10.800 --> 0:28:16.200
<v Speaker 4>women evolved in environments where social exclusion carried enormous survival costs.

0:28:16.240 --> 0:28:20.200
<v Speaker 4>You can't hunt pregnant, you can't fight nursing. Survival required

0:28:20.359 --> 0:28:23.280
<v Speaker 4>the tribe's acceptance. And so what you're doing is you're

0:28:23.520 --> 0:28:26.159
<v Speaker 4>sort of showing that there's just form and function between

0:28:26.200 --> 0:28:28.679
<v Speaker 4>male and female are different. And Blake, I love this

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<v Speaker 4>because and I in certainly thought of you when I

0:28:30.200 --> 0:28:32.280
<v Speaker 4>was reading this, because you were the one that kind

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<v Speaker 4>of I think solidified this, even with Charlie, that women's

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<v Speaker 4>part of women's social roles are norm enforcers, consensus builders.

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<v Speaker 4>This is sort of the way that they're hardwired. And

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<v Speaker 4>then when you combine that natural form and function with

0:28:45.280 --> 0:28:48.800
<v Speaker 4>an algorithm that pushes them and builds consensus further and

0:28:48.840 --> 0:28:51.520
<v Speaker 4>further and deeper and deeper, this is where you start

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<v Speaker 4>seeing the two sexes diverge and depart, and this chasm

0:28:55.320 --> 0:28:57.800
<v Speaker 4>is formed. And I just think it's I think it's

0:28:57.800 --> 0:29:02.080
<v Speaker 4>a really powerful explanation. And then you pair that with

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<v Speaker 4>Helen Andrews and the radical feminization of the workplace and

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<v Speaker 4>other things, you start seeing why these larger cultural trends

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<v Speaker 4>are taking root.

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<v Speaker 3>If you agree, Blake.

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<v Speaker 5>But it's it's very interesting because I just it's kind

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<v Speaker 5>of funny. It's like, how do we fix this, Well,

0:29:17.480 --> 0:29:19.120
<v Speaker 5>we just have to fix marriage.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no fault devorce, just to get rid.

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<v Speaker 6>Of no fault divorce.

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<v Speaker 5>It's very tough and not the least because the people

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<v Speaker 5>we kind of need to save with us, I think

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<v Speaker 4>What we're talking about, this divergence of the sexist is

0:30:37.760 --> 0:30:41.440
<v Speaker 4>of paramount importance for the future of Western civilization. That's

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<v Speaker 4>why this understanding its root causes, how to fix it,

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<v Speaker 4>how to address it, is so critically important. And it's

0:30:48.600 --> 0:30:51.280
<v Speaker 4>something that Charlie talked a lot about as well. This

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<v Speaker 4>is Charlie at December twenty twenty four am Fest.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's go ahead and play cut three point fifty two.

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<v Speaker 2>Young men are the most conservative that they have been

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<v Speaker 2>in over fifty years.

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<v Speaker 3>Fifty years. Think about that now.

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<v Speaker 2>A reporter asked me, They said, Charlie, can you try

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<v Speaker 2>to explain this phenomenon.

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<v Speaker 5>I said, yeah, It's very simple.

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<v Speaker 2>Young men want to be part of a political movement

0:31:19.320 --> 0:31:23.800
<v Speaker 2>that doesn't hate them. In fact, let me go a

0:31:23.800 --> 0:31:27.920
<v Speaker 2>step further, that thinks they're essential to a future of

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<v Speaker 2>a country, that we need strong men and strong women,

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<v Speaker 2>that we're sick and tired of hearing about toxic masculinity

0:31:37.480 --> 0:31:39.880
<v Speaker 2>when we are drowning in toxic femininity.

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<v Speaker 5>And he kept on that theme because we have another

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<v Speaker 5>clip here and this is one of the last hits

0:31:45.320 --> 0:31:46.320
<v Speaker 5>he ever did on Fox.

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<v Speaker 6>Let's play three point fifty three.

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<v Speaker 7>What is going on with women and not wanting to

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<v Speaker 7>prioritize family.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is a pattern that I've seen time and

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<v Speaker 2>time in these college campuses where young men are ordering

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<v Speaker 2>their life correctly. They want to first and foremost have children,

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<v Speaker 2>get married, and then have a nice job or to

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<v Speaker 2>be able to travel. If you look deeper into this data,

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<v Speaker 2>it's completely consistent with other data we've seen the last

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<v Speaker 2>couple of years. Young women they don't value having children,

0:32:13.600 --> 0:32:14.800
<v Speaker 2>and this is one of the reasons why we are

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<v Speaker 2>seeing a fertility collapse in the West. If you play

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<v Speaker 2>out the liberal worldview, the Kamala Harris worldview to its

0:32:21.360 --> 0:32:25.400
<v Speaker 2>furthest possible logical point, you have a country with literally

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<v Speaker 2>no future. When you play out the logical endpoint of

0:32:29.120 --> 0:32:32.200
<v Speaker 2>President Trump's agenda of where young men voted for him,

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<v Speaker 2>you have one of lots of children increasing communities, and

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<v Speaker 2>you also don't have a need then for mass immigration.

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<v Speaker 5>So Victorrio once thought, I've had maybe this could bail

0:32:43.040 --> 0:32:45.760
<v Speaker 5>us out. Is we are seeing this fertility collapse. We

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<v Speaker 5>are seeing far fewer people get married far fewer people

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<v Speaker 5>having children. Could this basically be a transitional phase where

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<v Speaker 5>for all of human history basically everyone had kids because

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<v Speaker 5>that was what you did, natural biological impulse. And now

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<v Speaker 5>we're just going to go through this one generation where

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<v Speaker 5>basically all the people uninterested in having kids poof out

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<v Speaker 5>of the gene pool, and the people who don't value

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<v Speaker 5>marriage poof out of the gene pool, and we'll just

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<v Speaker 5>have a new society of the people who actually select

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<v Speaker 5>for those things. And could we fix it that way?

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<v Speaker 5>Are we going to see this huge I guess political

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<v Speaker 5>and social divergence caused by who actually shows up for

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<v Speaker 5>the future.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, you see it already happening. I mean conservative

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<v Speaker 7>families have more children than liberal families. I spoke time

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<v Speaker 7>ago about this, and I do think that there is

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<v Speaker 7>a problem here because the institutions that then educate and

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<v Speaker 7>raise your kids, schools and media and TVs are captured

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<v Speaker 7>instead by the other ideology. And that's why they care

0:33:51.720 --> 0:33:53.960
<v Speaker 7>so much about it, because by not being able to

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<v Speaker 7>have their own kids, they need to indoctrinate someone else's

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<v Speaker 7>kids so they can perpetrate this the views. So to

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<v Speaker 7>your point, I do agree that they will self select out,

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<v Speaker 7>but only if the kids that then are being had,

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<v Speaker 7>like they're protected. So that's another problem.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm looking at the numbers here to remind myself. So

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<v Speaker 6>if you looked.

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<v Speaker 5>At the average number of kids for a woman over

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<v Speaker 5>forty four, so they've finished their child great window. In

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<v Speaker 5>nineteen eighty two, liberal women had more kids than conservative

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<v Speaker 5>ones on average, and even as recently as twenty eighteen,

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<v Speaker 5>for women over forty four completed fertility, they had about

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<v Speaker 5>the same number of kids liberal versus conservative. For women

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<v Speaker 5>below that threshold, it's widened to the point where it's

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<v Speaker 5>almost a full child per woman gap between liberal and

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<v Speaker 5>conservative women in the US.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a lot people do like that. Maybe doesn't sound

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<v Speaker 4>like a lot, but that's a huge gap.

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<v Speaker 3>But to your.

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<v Speaker 4>Point that you know, listen, we've said more striking things

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<v Speaker 4>I think before in the past, but there is this

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<v Speaker 4>tendency with people that do not pro create to then

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<v Speaker 4>recruit or groom, and that is a huge problem with

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<v Speaker 4>our institutions. That's why school's choice is so fundamentally important.

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<v Speaker 4>That's why classical school education is so important. Victoria, you

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<v Speaker 4>are I would presume maybe you're a Christian Protestant, but

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<v Speaker 4>You're Italian, correct, and one of the countries that has

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<v Speaker 4>experienced in the West the most dramatic fertility collapse is Italy.

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<v Speaker 4>Are there lessons from Italy that you could share that

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<v Speaker 4>shed light on.

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<v Speaker 7>This, Well, what Italy learned is like what you can

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<v Speaker 7>learn from Italy is what not to do? Like it's

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know. Again, it's alrmal White problem, the fertwoity crisis,

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<v Speaker 7>and there are several probably reasons that can be both political, biological, cultural,

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<v Speaker 7>But I think that at the very bottom is just

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<v Speaker 7>an extremely individualistic culture and everyone just think about themselves

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<v Speaker 7>and for themselves. They want to have money for their own,

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<v Speaker 7>they want to be successful on their own, and no

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<v Speaker 7>one cares any more about what will happen to them.

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<v Speaker 7>There's not anymore some kind of overarching principle and guiding

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<v Speaker 7>reality that pushes them to have a lineage in the future.

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<v Speaker 7>So I think it's still a collapse of meaning.

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<v Speaker 5>I think ultimately it's a value fight, and that's tough

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<v Speaker 5>because the values are tough to change. I had a

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<v Speaker 5>friend who was just in Israel and he was saying

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<v Speaker 5>it was so jarring to see. It's not just that

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<v Speaker 5>there's kids everywhere compared to the US or anywhere else,

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<v Speaker 5>but that it so aggressively comes up when you talk

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<v Speaker 5>to someone, they're rapidly going to brag, Oh, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 5>have four kids already, I have five kids. It's such

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<v Speaker 5>a point of pride. It's so well, you know, baked

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<v Speaker 5>into everything. That's what drives it.

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<v Speaker 4>You're right, Israel is this loan standout on the in

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<v Speaker 4>the world right now because people think about Sub Saharan

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<v Speaker 4>Africa is this massively fertile area, and historically they would

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<v Speaker 4>be correct, but they are seeing dramatic drops in fertility

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<v Speaker 4>and Sub Saharan Africa even this one standout is very fascinating.

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<v Speaker 4>That's Israel. And because Israel is a value based country

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<v Speaker 4>right well, people are there often because of their their religion,

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<v Speaker 4>because of their their ethnicity. And what's really fascinating about

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<v Speaker 4>Israel is the group that's losing fertility rates right now

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<v Speaker 4>are the Muslims within Israel. The people that are sustaining

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<v Speaker 4>their fertility rates are the Jews. It's a very fascinating extent,

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<v Speaker 4>which just underscores that it's a value proposition exactly.

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<v Speaker 6>Man, it's it's bleak.

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<v Speaker 5>Vittorio, I have to say because it does feel like

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<v Speaker 5>it's when it's a problem that's almost everywhere in the world,

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<v Speaker 5>and the ones that are defining it are so unique

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<v Speaker 5>compared to the US or Europe. It's it's tough, but

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<v Speaker 5>we're very thankful for you for laying it out in

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<v Speaker 5>a clear cut way. I think there is rising awareness

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<v Speaker 5>of the nature.

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<v Speaker 3>Of the problems to Elms and Charles.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, and I think we're we are going to have

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<v Speaker 5>to make the push for a revolution in values in

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<v Speaker 5>the West, and it's kind of the only way I

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<v Speaker 5>think you can turn it around.

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<v Speaker 4>And this this push about individualism, we are not individualists.

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<v Speaker 4>We're we're more community based. We're not collectivists. We're not individualists.

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<v Speaker 4>We're about community. We're about uh, shared meaning as a

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<v Speaker 4>as a you know community, as a as a local community,

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<v Speaker 4>as a church community.

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<v Speaker 3>Vittorio, really fascinating stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you so much for your contribution to this discussion,

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<v Speaker 4>and uh, you know, good, good job you cut through

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<v Speaker 4>the algorithm.

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<v Speaker 7>Thank you for having me. It was a pleasure.

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