1 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: My name is Charlie Kirk. 2 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 2: I run the largest pro American student organization in the country, 3 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 2: fighting for the future of our republic. My call is 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 2: to fight evil and to proclaim truth. If the most 5 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 2: important thing for you is just feeling good, you're gonna 6 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 2: end up miserable. But if the most important thing is 7 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 2: doing good, you'll end up purposeful. College is a scam, everybody. 8 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 2: You got to stop sending your kids to college. You 9 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 2: should get married as young as possible and have as 10 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 2: many kids as possible. Go start at turning point. You 11 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 2: would say, college chapter. Go start aturning point, yould say 12 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 2: high school chapter. Go find out how your church can 13 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 2: get involved. Sign up and become an activist. I gave 14 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 2: my life to the Lord in fifth grade, most important 15 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 2: decision I ever made in my life, and I encourage 16 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 2: you to do the same. 17 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 3: Here I am Lord, Use me. 18 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 2: Buckle up, everybody, Here we go. The Charlie Kirk Show 19 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 2: is proudly sponsored by Preserved Gold, leading gold and silver 20 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 2: experts and the only precious metals company. I recommend to 21 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 2: my family, friends and viewers. 22 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 3: All right, welcome back hour too. 23 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 4: That Charlie Kirk Show is underway and we have Sean Davis, 24 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:16,119 Speaker 4: co founder and CEO of the Federalists, joining us. 25 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 3: Sean, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. Good to 26 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 3: have you, my friend. 27 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: Good to be back. Thank you. 28 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 4: I called you about this story because I am raising 29 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 4: a five alarm, five alarm fire for the state of Virginia. 30 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 4: What is happening there, I think is a precursor that 31 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 4: portends ill for the entire country, especially with the midterms. 32 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 3: You get a lot of people. 33 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 4: Talking about, Oh, I don't feel good about the midterms. 34 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 4: I think we can win the midterms. I think the 35 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 4: economic numbers are going to give us win to our sales, 36 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 4: but it's going to be an uphill battle. Plus you've 37 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 4: got the Senate races, you got house races that are 38 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 4: gonna be hotly contested, governor's mansions, all all of those 39 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 4: races in between. Tell us about Virginia. You've spent a 40 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 4: lot of time in Virginia. Your partner, Molly's based in Virginia. 41 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 4: I believe over the Federalist and I mean, we all 42 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 4: have a lot of friends there. This is bad what 43 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 4: they are doing. In a matter of days. This is 44 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 4: like the shokun Off. Firste hundred days of the Trump administration, 45 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 4: only Democrat style in a blue state that only went 46 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 4: for Kamala Harris by six points. 47 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 5: With the legislature that will pass things, with a legislature 48 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 5: that high minded Democrats will actually pass things, unlike you know, 49 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 5: our our. 50 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 4: Rowdy bunch of congressional folks that are very independent minded, Sean, 51 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 4: what do you make of this? 52 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, Virginia is fascinating because, yes, in presidentials it's been 53 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: blue I think since eight but it's not that blue 54 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: of a state. So they just had a red governor 55 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: in Glenn Youngkin for four years. It's not uncommon for 56 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 1: them to have red majorities in the state legislature in 57 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 1: either house. So this isn't a massive blue state like 58 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: a Vermont or a Massachusetts or New York. It's actually 59 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: pretty purple. A lot of people like to analogisee it 60 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: to Colorado. It's not. It's definitely more towards the center 61 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: than Colorado, but it's faced a similar takeover. And I 62 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: think what's happening there is a major microcosm, a really 63 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:14,239 Speaker 1: important microcosm for what's happening in the country writ large, 64 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: and you're seeing it in this woman, Abigail Spamberger, career Democrat, 65 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: was a former CIA stooge. She presents as a moderate. 66 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: Oh look, I'm just like a pretty blonde, nice moderate lady. 67 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 1: When she is a radical left wing ideologue. And when 68 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 1: she came in, despite Virginia not being a super blue state, 69 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: she does what Democrats always do because Democrats understand power. 70 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: She's going in and even though she only got you know, 71 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: we'll say like fifty five percent of the vote, whatever 72 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: it is, she's not saying, oh, we're only going to 73 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: do fifty five percent of what we want. We are 74 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: going to do one hundred percent what we want because 75 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: you can't do anything to stop it. And it's scary 76 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 1: because the Democrat Party has become so radical. It's abortion 77 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: on demand, it's gutting a law that protected babies who 78 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: survived abortions. It's making illegal immigration enforcement illegal itself. It's 79 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: making the whole state a sanctuary. It's banning guns, it's 80 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: doing speech crackdowns. When Democrats get in power, because they 81 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 1: understand power, they wield it ruthlessly, and quite honestly is horrifying. 82 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 1: As I find what she's doing, I'm honestly jealous because 83 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: I would love to have a party representing me all 84 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 1: throughout Washington, not just in the White House, that understands power, 85 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 1: how to attain it, how to maintain it, and how 86 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: to wield it. Because the Democrats are putting on an 87 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:33,119 Speaker 1: absolute clinic in what you actually do when you're in power. 88 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's really well. 89 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 5: See Sean, we were talking during so you've seen all, yeah, 90 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 5: the abortion stuff, but this really remarkable one that was 91 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 5: introduced yesterday, which it would only it's a simple bill 92 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 5: to rewrite that when a state agency is administering federal funds, 93 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,840 Speaker 5: they are not allowed to impose a requirement on nonprofits 94 00:04:55,080 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 5: to check whether anyone receiving a benefit is eligible. 95 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 3: For that bene. Which is remarkable. 96 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 4: So their lesson that they are gleaning from the Somali 97 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 4: fraud scheme that has robbed US taxpayers of probably anywhere 98 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 4: between ten and nineteen twenty billion dollars in counting. We'll 99 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 4: see how big it gets when we start uncovering Washington, 100 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 4: we start uncovering Maine. I'm told there are new immigration 101 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 4: crackdowns happening in Maine right now targeting the Somali community. 102 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 4: But their takeaway from this is that we want to 103 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 4: block oversight we want to block accountability. And I just 104 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:37,119 Speaker 4: cannot get over this, Sean that anything we do, even 105 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:40,559 Speaker 4: if it makes sense, even if we cure cancer, their 106 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 4: party's reaction is to run the other way and to 107 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 4: just put their head in the sand, complete ostrich act 108 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 4: like it didn't happen, and defend what they think are 109 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 4: their values. What are their values here, Sean, That they 110 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 4: like fraud, that they like misuse of taxpayer funding and 111 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 4: there has to be a federal bonds to stuff that 112 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 4: is this insane? But I don't know if this is 113 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 4: a psychological dilemma. I don't know if this is this 114 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 4: is something that needs to be studied from a sociological level. 115 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 4: But this is patently insane, and I cannot, for the 116 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 4: life of me look at what Donald Trump and the 117 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 4: president immigration, economic, what we're accomplishing, and see why they 118 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 4: hate it so much. 119 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: Oh, I think it's easy. It's an uncomfortable answer, but 120 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: it's an easy one, and that it's entirely spiritual. If 121 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:27,840 Speaker 1: you look at something and you want to figure out 122 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: which one is the good side and which is the 123 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: bad side, look at the side that wants things to 124 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: be ugly and chaotic and disorderly and manic. That's the 125 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 1: bad side. Look at the side that wants to make 126 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: things beautiful, that believes in order and putting things where 127 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 1: they belong. That's the good side. And it's because the 128 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: good reflects our Creator, who is perfect and good and orderly. 129 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 1: We worship and we were made by a God of order, 130 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: not a god of chaos. So I think it is 131 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 1: absolutely spiritual at its very core, and that we're never 132 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 1: going to get around that. So often we try to 133 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 1: talk around it and be like, well, it's about ideologies 134 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: and philosophies and blah blah blah. That's all downstream from 135 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,799 Speaker 1: your worldview, which is built on a foundation of where 136 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: you see yourself in the cosmic order, where you believe 137 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: in a great creator, whether you believe in inherent good 138 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: and inherent evil. The Democrat Party is evil. It's just 139 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: come out and say it. It's evil. It's why it 140 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: wants to kill babies, it's why it wants to eviscerate borders. 141 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: It's why it wants to eliminate mandatory minimum sentence for rapists, 142 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 1: for child exployers, for people who attack cops, for people 143 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: guilty of manslaughter and murder, and I will say on 144 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: spam Berger again, Democrats understand power. You'll hear Republicans when 145 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 1: they get in power, because they're terrified of wielding it, 146 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: say things like, well, politics is the art of the possible, 147 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: and they'll lecture you very smugly on it. No, it's not. 148 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: Politics is about rewarding your friends and punisharing your enemies, 149 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: and the Democrats do it brilliantly. So the foreigners, the Somalis, 150 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: the scamsters, the fraudsters, that is the Democrat Party's base, 151 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 1: that is who is being rewarded here. The Democrat Party 152 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: cannot exist without shipping these people in, making them rich 153 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:07,679 Speaker 1: and getting them to use their fraud bucks to elect 154 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: more Democrats. So that's what they're doing. And again there 155 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: is a lesson here for Republicans to learn. I'm sure 156 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: they're gonna learn the wrong one. But the lesson here 157 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: is when you get in power, you wield it ruthlessly 158 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: and you support the people who put you there. 159 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, listen, you know, probably I'm naive, Sean, 160 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 4: but when you say that politics is about punishing your 161 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 4: enemies and rewarding your friends, there's like this part of 162 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 4: me that you know, remembers, you know, watching the World 163 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 4: War two movies and the John Wayne movies, and like, 164 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:36,719 Speaker 4: I gotta think you know that we as Americans can 165 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 4: you know, ban together. It's some some sort of elevated 166 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 4: pitch than that, because man, that's that's a really dark realit. 167 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 4: I don't disagree with you functionally, you know, I think 168 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 4: of this in terms of the American Empire, right, Like, 169 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 4: you know, listen, we're gonna we're gonna exert our force 170 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 4: abroad because we're the most powerful, and we're gonna take 171 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 4: care of our own, our own people. 172 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 3: I totally get that. 173 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 4: But when you come to the domestic front, but you 174 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 4: hope that it's gonna be different. But it's hard to 175 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 4: disagree with you. Man, it's hard to disagree with you 176 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 4: that when you are confronted by an ideological force that 177 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 4: is so dark, that is killing babies, that wants chaos, 178 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 4: that wants criminals on its streets. I mean, this is 179 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 4: what they're doing. They're defending criminal illegals that are child. 180 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:18,959 Speaker 6: They're very evil. 181 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:23,079 Speaker 5: I actually will I actually do a little disagree with this. 182 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 6: You hear this. 183 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 5: It's all about rewarding friends, punishing enemies. It's this Karl 184 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 5: Schmidt thing. We can talk about him sometime. 185 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 3: You've sparked debated here. 186 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 6: Oh, it definitely will. It definitely will. 187 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 5: But I think it is important a message like don't 188 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 5: don't be a wuss, don't be a coward, and like, 189 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,079 Speaker 5: actually think about what you're able to do, because Republicans 190 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:45,439 Speaker 5: love to just be inert. 191 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 6: They're kind of lazy. 192 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 5: It's like, think about all the DEI departments that just 193 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 5: sat around in red states forever. That's not You don't 194 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:53,679 Speaker 5: need to frame that in terms of oh, reward allies 195 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 5: punished enemies. You just frame that in terms of don't 196 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 5: don't be an idiot, don't do things that are obviously 197 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 5: against your value. 198 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 1: But they're not lazy. Ask Zelensky how lazy they are. 199 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: They will shovel bucks out America into that little midget's 200 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: mouth faster than you can blink. They're not lazy. They're cowards, 201 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 1: and they have a very different idea of who they're 202 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: supposed to be serving than we are. And I think 203 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 1: that's the main problem. 204 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, and by the way, Sean, I completely agree with you. 205 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 4: This is a spiritual war. I've got a clip from 206 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 4: Charlie teed Up that We're going to play on the 207 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 4: other side of his break. That underscores your point, and 208 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 4: I completely agree. At some level, the insanity just becomes 209 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 4: so brazen and so you know, nonsensical that what it 210 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 4: has to be. 211 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 3: It's demonic. 212 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 6: Howdy Blake here. 213 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 5: You know, in moments like this, truth really matters. The 214 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 5: truth was important to Charlie. 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Join the Angel Guild 231 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 5: today at angel dot com slash Charlie Kirk become a 232 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 5: member and stream Thank you doctor Fauci today. 233 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 4: All right, Sean Davis, just to underscore your point, you 234 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 4: are the co founder CEO of the Federalist Great Publication. 235 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:57,679 Speaker 3: I check it every day. That is not a lie. 236 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 4: You guys are doing amazing work, huge service to our country. 237 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 4: I'm gonna play this is Charlie with Tucker talking about 238 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 4: this exact thing. 239 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 3: Three point fifty one. 240 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 2: This is why your faith is the most important thing, 241 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 2: because for those of us that are Christians, you actually 242 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 2: see what's going on, which is that we do not 243 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 2: wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities and darkness 244 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 2: and spirits. That there is a spiritual war here. There 245 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:26,079 Speaker 2: is a God and we are not him. That there 246 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:30,559 Speaker 2: is an entire dimension of angels and demons and spirits 247 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 2: that are constantly struggling struggling around us, and that there 248 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 2: is a supernatural dimension. 249 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 4: Charlie was super tuned into this. I think we are 250 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 4: as well here, Sean, so I totally agree. I don't 251 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 4: know how else you explain the insanity that we've lived under. 252 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 4: And it almost feels like in the ear of Trump, 253 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 4: it's like the demons are shrieking, and so now they're 254 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 4: just it's like total mask off, the veil is torn. 255 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 4: They're out in the open amongst us, because how else 256 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 4: do you explain the radicalness and the brazenness of a 257 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 4: D plus sixth state going full Marxist, going full Marxist. 258 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 4: But I digress, Sean, unless you want to chime in 259 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 4: on that. But I do want to talk about a 260 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 4: year in review for. 261 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 1: Me kind of the it was made obvious as the 262 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: whole trans thing reared its disgusting little head. If you 263 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 1: can't agree on just the basis of reality of whether 264 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 1: boys or boys or girls and girls, clearly there's something 265 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: going on but beyond the conscious rational level, and it 266 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 1: can only be spiritual. 267 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely. 268 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 4: Okay, So that's the bad and the ugly, but there 269 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 4: is good happening. One year in review of President Trump, 270 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 4: let's just play part one of this three forty seven. 271 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 7: Our sovereignty will be reclaimed. 272 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 4: There have been ninety two people charged in this fraud 273 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 4: scheme in Minnesota. 274 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 6: Mcduro Venezuela. What they're doing. They're trying to kill our kids. 275 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 2: They're trying to bring drugs into our country. 276 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 5: It's not going to happen. 277 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:53,839 Speaker 2: We're gonna come after you after Venezuelan President Nico las 278 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 2: Maduro sits in a federal jail in Brooklyn. 279 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 8: Escorted by Drug Enforcement Administrator Terry Cole. 280 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 5: Thanks to the relentless work of our prosecutors and our 281 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 5: federal agents, El Maaya will spend the rest of his 282 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:09,199 Speaker 5: life behind bars. 283 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 8: Our safety will be restored. 284 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 3: Murders of the US are on pace for the largest 285 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 3: one year drop. 286 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 1: I shall police say, homicides and robberies are at multi 287 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 1: year lows. 288 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 5: The numbers were released by DC Police show a safer 289 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 5: year for the city in twenty twenty five. 290 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 4: And that's just part one. There's a part two. The 291 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 4: administration put that out. I thought it was fair and 292 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 4: it kind of highlighted and reminded me of some things 293 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 4: that RFK Junior was on with Jesse Waters last night 294 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 4: on Fox. He said that you know what, he was 295 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 4: asked what was your number one accomplishment? And it kind 296 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 4: of surprised people, and he said, what was actually most 297 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 4: favored nation drug prices are dropping. Trump used tariffs to 298 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 4: leverage as leverage to negotiate with European partners and drug companies. 299 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 4: A lot of good stuff is happening Sean in a 300 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 4: historic sense. Put this, put Trump's one year in office 301 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 4: in context for us. 302 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 3: How good has it been? What would you like to 303 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 3: see more of? 304 00:14:58,160 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 2: Well? 305 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: I think it's been spectacular. You know, has been putting 306 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: points on the board across the board. He's completely sealed 307 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 1: the border. He's fixed the border. He's dealing with immigration, 308 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: he's doing mass deportations. He's made America, say for number one, 309 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 1: by not doing stupid nonsense everywhere, and number two by 310 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 1: actually going and dealing with threats discreetly as he finds 311 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: them and then just leaving it at that. A good 312 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 1: example there would be the Iran nuclear threat, which he dispatched, 313 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:29,479 Speaker 1: and then going in and kidnapping the dictator of Venezuela 314 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: like he's some sort of historical artifact in the Nick 315 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 1: Cage heist movie. Then you have the Maha stuff. You 316 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: have RFK Junior kind of resetting these insane vaccine schedules 317 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: that we had for babies. He's fixed the food pyramid, 318 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: which for decades was nonsense and was just telling people, yeah, yeah, 319 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: you need to be just gorging yourselves on carbs because 320 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: that's what your body needs. So we've seen changes on 321 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: that where I think we've really been lacking. And this 322 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 1: isn't a Trump problem at all. It goes back to 323 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: what we were talking about earlier is totally inapt action 324 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 1: and an unwillingness to do what needs to be done 325 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: in the Republican Congress. And what we've learned is that 326 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 1: having a great president is great. It's indispensable. You can't 327 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: get things done without a great president. But you need 328 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: more than just a president doing stuff as the head 329 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: of the executive branch. You have to have people making 330 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: everything he's doing permanent law. 331 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:21,479 Speaker 3: You have to have them going. 332 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 5: To the phi pan Son philibus, but nuca filibuster if 333 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 5: you can pass stuff. But to your point, it would 334 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 5: actually make a zombie Congress actually do stuff. 335 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 6: Again, it would, it would, It would make Congress real. 336 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 5: But that well, it might be that you make Congress 337 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 5: reel only so people can really very clearly see the 338 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 5: members of their own party who are It's you know, 339 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 5: it's like you put on the they live glasses. 340 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, see what the reality. At least we have the 341 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 3: VETO with President Trump right now. 342 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 4: I mean, so if they pass crazy stuff, okay, we 343 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 4: get the veto, and then, you know, hopefully by twenty 344 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 4: twenty eight we regain some mojo. You know, I'm I 345 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 4: don't know that. I'm becoming way more convinced. The only 346 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 4: way to make the fake, you know, democracy kind of 347 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 4: thing that we've got going on right now, where it's 348 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:08,919 Speaker 4: basically rule by executive order and Congress is completely paralyzed, 349 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:10,920 Speaker 4: is you got to nuke the filibuster. Let the cards 350 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 4: out on the table, let's get let's let's see where 351 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 4: things lie. I mean, I know there's risk in that, 352 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 4: but there's no other option to get immigration fixed. There's 353 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 4: no other option to get voter ID fixed. 354 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:21,199 Speaker 3: Sean, Well, yeah, so I agree. 355 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 1: I think in a vacuum, you know, it's easier to 356 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: pass things with fifty plus one than it is with sixty. 357 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 1: But the problem is the composition of that fifty plus one. 358 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: And I think if we were to go in and 359 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 1: nuke the filibuster today, I don't think they would pass anything. 360 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: I really don't. I think the composition of Republicans in 361 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 1: Washington is such a huge problem that what we actually 362 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: would need if we wanted to get things passed was 363 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:45,440 Speaker 1: moved to threshold down to about thirty five. I think 364 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 1: then you could actually get Republicans to do stuff, and 365 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 1: so I think it's really really important, especially as we're 366 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: heading into a primary season. Republican voters have to wake up. 367 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 1: It's not enough to send a Republican to Washington. You 368 00:17:56,680 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 1: have to send the right Republican to Washington. 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There 407 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 4: was a Bill Ackman tweet where political scientists data quants 408 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 4: have been telling us this for a half decade, women 409 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 4: have moved radically leftward at a scale and speed with 410 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 4: no modern precedent, while men have, on the whole remain 411 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 4: largely steady and unchanged. You and Bill Lackman asked the 412 00:19:57,040 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 4: question why, and you responded and you this really amazing 413 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 4: article that went viral across the internet. I'd never seen 414 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:07,159 Speaker 4: your account before that, but now I've seen you multiple places. 415 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:10,160 Speaker 4: You're now in the algorithm everywhere. So congrats, I'm breaking through. 416 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,400 Speaker 4: And so please welcome to the show and tell us 417 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:16,160 Speaker 4: give us the basis of your thesis here. 418 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 7: Well, thanks for having me, it's a pleasure to be here. 419 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 7: My thesis, I don't know. Personally speaking, I don't think 420 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 7: I've enlightened people. I mean, I just tried to put 421 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:33,879 Speaker 7: together things that I thought were known. But first, I'm 422 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 7: really glad that it was well perceived and were received. 423 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 7: But my core thesis is that because of some reason, 424 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 7: there was this convergence of different technologies that allow this 425 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:52,439 Speaker 7: to happen, and the reason for these happening is that 426 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 7: men and women are just fundamentally different and we can't 427 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 7: really do anything about this. A shocking we evolved under 428 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 7: different apparently, yes, but biological men biological women are fundamentally 429 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 7: different and we evolved under different kind of selection pressure, 430 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 7: under kind of evolutionary pressure. That we're very different. And 431 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,439 Speaker 7: that's because we're biologically different. I mean, we are a 432 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 7: dimorphicsed pieces. We evolve as men and women, and we 433 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 7: have very different kind of characteristics, like just I mean 434 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 7: on a very simple level in terms of strength, and 435 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 7: so women need more defense and men don't necessarily have this. 436 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 7: So women to be protected, they need something that keeps 437 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 7: them safe. And once the safety lacks because they don't 438 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 7: have i would say strong, a good man in their life, 439 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 7: then they need to find protection and safety into the group. 440 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 7: And this when technologies as like social media and smartphones 441 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:09,199 Speaker 7: are available, then the consensus comes from the like the 442 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,640 Speaker 7: group gives you, the consensus gives you, it is protection 443 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 7: and so it's much more easy for them to be 444 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 7: polarized because they need to be in agreement with the 445 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 7: group to feel a sense of belonging. 446 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, and you say you describe social media, the rise 447 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 4: of social media as basically the triggering event. And when 448 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:28,159 Speaker 4: I thought, this is something that I've thought for a 449 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 4: long time. So to your earlier point is the ideas 450 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:34,640 Speaker 4: that I've sort of known and I've been thinking around. 451 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 4: But you concisely put it into this one article. And 452 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,159 Speaker 4: it's basically like, you got Facebook launched in two thousand 453 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 4: and four, it was college until two thousand and six, 454 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 4: the iPhone launches in two thousand and seven, but then 455 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 4: in about twenty twelve, thirteen and fourteen, you have mass 456 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,880 Speaker 4: adoption of smartphones, and that's about when you start seeing 457 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 4: this really radical divergence. And it's not just an American phenomenon. 458 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,640 Speaker 4: This is what you point out in graph three fifty five. 459 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 4: This is I believe we showed this graph when Charlie 460 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:09,160 Speaker 4: was around with us and he marveled at this as well. 461 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 4: So South Korea, US, Germany, UK, you get this massive 462 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 4: divergence between men and women. Now, this graph sort of 463 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 4: makes it look like men are getting more right wing, 464 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 4: but actually the data shows that men are sort of 465 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 4: staying stable, women are becoming more radicalized. But you describe 466 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 4: the forcing function, as that the Internet is a giant 467 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:35,199 Speaker 4: algorithmic consensus builder. What do you mean by that and 468 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 4: why does that affect women more than men? 469 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 7: Well, because I so it's common to blame social media 470 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 7: and people who design social media Facebook or whatever, But 471 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 7: I don't think that social media wants these to happen, 472 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 7: or at least the owners of social media want these 473 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:56,400 Speaker 7: to happen. Is that the platform have to be optimized 474 00:23:56,640 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 7: for engagement and time spent on the platform. So like, 475 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,199 Speaker 7: if you want to create revenue as a business, you 476 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 7: need to optimize the time that people spend using your business. 477 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 7: And in case of social media, they need to spend 478 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:12,159 Speaker 7: time on it. And men and women react differently to 479 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,639 Speaker 7: different news and women are like this is known that 480 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 7: we have different personalities. Women are more empathetic, women are 481 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:25,399 Speaker 7: more agreeable, Women have a higher neuroticism. So a news 482 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 7: and an event that makes them feel more empathetic and 483 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 7: present some kind of suffering is resonates more with women 484 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:39,640 Speaker 7: than with men. And still going back to the fact 485 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 7: that women are physically weaker than men, women are easier 486 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,479 Speaker 7: to complain than men. Like we grew up and like 487 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:52,199 Speaker 7: it's always been known that if a man was complaining, 488 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 7: he had to grow a pair and just men up. 489 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,719 Speaker 7: Women are allowed to complain, and they do complain more 490 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 7: and media, so social media wants to keep the audience, 491 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:07,719 Speaker 7: to keep their client and the users, and so like, 492 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 7: I think it's just inevitable that if the technology is 493 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:16,199 Speaker 7: not aligned with the substrate of humans, which is biology, 494 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 7: this happens. 495 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 6: But that's I think the natural follow up Vittorio. 496 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 5: So if this is driven by smartphones, which are not 497 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 5: going away, and if it's driven by social media, which 498 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 5: is not going away, is there a solution to this 499 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 5: or are we essentially are we kind of screwed? Are 500 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 5: we basically going to be dominated by whatever ideological contagion 501 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 5: sweeps through with the algorithm and takes a majority of 502 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 5: women along with it, and they're half the voter based 503 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 5: I don't. 504 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 7: Know I should black Peel or white Field, but I 505 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 7: think that like we saw, and there is an autograph 506 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,400 Speaker 7: in the article that shows that married women don't respond 507 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 7: in this way, and women with children and to be 508 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:07,199 Speaker 7: more conservative and less radical. So one solution would be 509 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 7: to bring back families and to have more kids, because 510 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,679 Speaker 7: the biggest problem is that again women are more empathetic, 511 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,919 Speaker 7: and so once you show them the suffering that is 512 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 7: happening at ten thousand miles away, they will feel as 513 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 7: if it's happening to them or close to them. But 514 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 7: once they're married and they have good men in their life, 515 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 7: then they tend to follow. And once they have kids, 516 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,439 Speaker 7: then they tend to focus more on the kids. And 517 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 7: that's just again it's natural evolutionary for them. So by 518 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 7: I don't know, pushing more for a marriage and bringing 519 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 7: back the marriage institution which is not just a legal 520 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 7: document that you can sign and just know the next day, 521 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:51,439 Speaker 7: and making like, I don't know, I'm Christian, and so 522 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,919 Speaker 7: for me, marriage is sacred and is an oath that 523 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 7: you make in front of God, so you cannot go 524 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 7: back to your world. And I also do think that 525 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 7: that's the reason and why it was that up in 526 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,359 Speaker 7: that way, because you should not be allowed to go 527 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:08,119 Speaker 7: back from your your promise. But by making it so 528 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 7: like no full divorce and so easy to rescind, then 529 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 7: people are like, if it's just a piece of paper, 530 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 7: what's the point of doing that. And so I do 531 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 7: believe that by bringing back and trying to re establish 532 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 7: the institution of marriage and pushing for more kids, which 533 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 7: again this is the black people because it's the next 534 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 7: problem is that people are not having kids. But I 535 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 7: do think that in terms of the radicalization, there is 536 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,439 Speaker 7: a solution. Now the solution has his own problem. 537 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, so Vittoria, I love this part. So listen our audience. 538 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 4: We have a lot of Christian conservatives that may not 539 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 4: even ascribe to evolution, right, so I'm not even getting 540 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,159 Speaker 4: into that. But the way you word it, I just 541 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 4: wanted to preface that you could just believe that God 542 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 4: made men and women different and for different functions and forms. 543 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 3: And this your point still still works. He said. 544 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 4: Men face different pressures hunting parties gone for day, it's exploration, combat. 545 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 4: You had to tolerate being alone, disliked outside the group 546 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 4: for extended periods. Men who could handle temporary exclusion without 547 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 4: falling apart had more options, more risk taking, more independence, 548 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 4: more ability to leave bad situation. And you said, but 549 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 4: women evolved in environments where social exclusion carried enormous survival costs. 550 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 4: You can't hunt pregnant, you can't fight nursing. Survival required 551 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 4: the tribe's acceptance. And so what you're doing is you're 552 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,159 Speaker 4: sort of showing that there's just form and function between 553 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,679 Speaker 4: male and female are different. And Blake, I love this 554 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:30,199 Speaker 4: because and I in certainly thought of you when I 555 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 4: was reading this, because you were the one that kind 556 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 4: of I think solidified this, even with Charlie, that women's 557 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 4: part of women's social roles are norm enforcers, consensus builders. 558 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 4: This is sort of the way that they're hardwired. And 559 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 4: then when you combine that natural form and function with 560 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 4: an algorithm that pushes them and builds consensus further and 561 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 4: further and deeper and deeper, this is where you start 562 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 4: seeing the two sexes diverge and depart, and this chasm 563 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 4: is formed. And I just think it's I think it's 564 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 4: a really powerful explanation. And then you pair that with 565 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 4: Helen Andrews and the radical feminization of the workplace and 566 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 4: other things, you start seeing why these larger cultural trends 567 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 4: are taking root. 568 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 3: If you agree, Blake. 569 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 5: But it's it's very interesting because I just it's kind 570 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 5: of funny. It's like, how do we fix this, Well, 571 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 5: we just have to fix marriage. 572 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, no fault devorce, just to get rid. 573 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 6: Of no fault divorce. 574 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 5: It's very tough and not the least because the people 575 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 5: we kind of need to save with us, I think 576 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 5: are the most likely to fight against them. 577 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 4: President Trump walked into a catch twenty two when taking office. 578 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 4: Do nothing in America would be staring at a ticking 579 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 4: debt bomb, the kind of crisis that could cripple our future. 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Now it's your term. 598 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 3: To help protect yours. 599 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 4: What we're talking about, this divergence of the sexist is 600 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 4: of paramount importance for the future of Western civilization. That's 601 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 4: why this understanding its root causes, how to fix it, 602 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 4: how to address it, is so critically important. And it's 603 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 4: something that Charlie talked a lot about as well. This 604 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 4: is Charlie at December twenty twenty four am Fest. 605 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 3: Let's go ahead and play cut three point fifty two. 606 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 2: Young men are the most conservative that they have been 607 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 2: in over fifty years. 608 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 3: Fifty years. Think about that now. 609 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 2: A reporter asked me, They said, Charlie, can you try 610 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 2: to explain this phenomenon. 611 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 5: I said, yeah, It's very simple. 612 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,959 Speaker 2: Young men want to be part of a political movement 613 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 2: that doesn't hate them. In fact, let me go a 614 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 2: step further, that thinks they're essential to a future of 615 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 2: a country, that we need strong men and strong women, 616 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 2: that we're sick and tired of hearing about toxic masculinity 617 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 2: when we are drowning in toxic femininity. 618 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 5: And he kept on that theme because we have another 619 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 5: clip here and this is one of the last hits 620 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 5: he ever did on Fox. 621 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 6: Let's play three point fifty three. 622 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 7: What is going on with women and not wanting to 623 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 7: prioritize family. 624 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a pattern that I've seen time and 625 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 2: time in these college campuses where young men are ordering 626 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 2: their life correctly. They want to first and foremost have children, 627 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 2: get married, and then have a nice job or to 628 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 2: be able to travel. If you look deeper into this data, 629 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 2: it's completely consistent with other data we've seen the last 630 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 2: couple of years. Young women they don't value having children, 631 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 2: and this is one of the reasons why we are 632 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 2: seeing a fertility collapse in the West. If you play 633 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 2: out the liberal worldview, the Kamala Harris worldview to its 634 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 2: furthest possible logical point, you have a country with literally 635 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 2: no future. When you play out the logical endpoint of 636 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 2: President Trump's agenda of where young men voted for him, 637 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 2: you have one of lots of children increasing communities, and 638 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 2: you also don't have a need then for mass immigration. 639 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 5: So Victorrio once thought, I've had maybe this could bail 640 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 5: us out. Is we are seeing this fertility collapse. We 641 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 5: are seeing far fewer people get married far fewer people 642 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 5: having children. Could this basically be a transitional phase where 643 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 5: for all of human history basically everyone had kids because 644 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 5: that was what you did, natural biological impulse. And now 645 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 5: we're just going to go through this one generation where 646 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 5: basically all the people uninterested in having kids poof out 647 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:12,479 Speaker 5: of the gene pool, and the people who don't value 648 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 5: marriage poof out of the gene pool, and we'll just 649 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 5: have a new society of the people who actually select 650 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 5: for those things. And could we fix it that way? 651 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 5: Are we going to see this huge I guess political 652 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 5: and social divergence caused by who actually shows up for 653 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 5: the future. 654 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 7: I mean, you see it already happening. I mean conservative 655 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 7: families have more children than liberal families. I spoke time 656 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 7: ago about this, and I do think that there is 657 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 7: a problem here because the institutions that then educate and 658 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 7: raise your kids, schools and media and TVs are captured 659 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 7: instead by the other ideology. And that's why they care 660 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:53,960 Speaker 7: so much about it, because by not being able to 661 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 7: have their own kids, they need to indoctrinate someone else's 662 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 7: kids so they can perpetrate this the views. So to 663 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 7: your point, I do agree that they will self select out, 664 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:12,240 Speaker 7: but only if the kids that then are being had, 665 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,760 Speaker 7: like they're protected. So that's another problem. 666 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 6: I'm looking at the numbers here to remind myself. So 667 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 6: if you looked. 668 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:23,279 Speaker 5: At the average number of kids for a woman over 669 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 5: forty four, so they've finished their child great window. In 670 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 5: nineteen eighty two, liberal women had more kids than conservative 671 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 5: ones on average, and even as recently as twenty eighteen, 672 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,839 Speaker 5: for women over forty four completed fertility, they had about 673 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 5: the same number of kids liberal versus conservative. For women 674 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 5: below that threshold, it's widened to the point where it's 675 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 5: almost a full child per woman gap between liberal and 676 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:47,880 Speaker 5: conservative women in the US. 677 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,919 Speaker 4: That's a lot people do like that. Maybe doesn't sound 678 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 4: like a lot, but that's a huge gap. 679 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 3: But to your. 680 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 4: Point that you know, listen, we've said more striking things 681 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:01,799 Speaker 4: I think before in the past, but there is this 682 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 4: tendency with people that do not pro create to then 683 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 4: recruit or groom, and that is a huge problem with 684 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:13,440 Speaker 4: our institutions. That's why school's choice is so fundamentally important. 685 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:17,719 Speaker 4: That's why classical school education is so important. Victoria, you 686 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 4: are I would presume maybe you're a Christian Protestant, but 687 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 4: You're Italian, correct, and one of the countries that has 688 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 4: experienced in the West the most dramatic fertility collapse is Italy. 689 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,279 Speaker 4: Are there lessons from Italy that you could share that 690 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 4: shed light on. 691 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:38,319 Speaker 7: This, Well, what Italy learned is like what you can 692 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:41,280 Speaker 7: learn from Italy is what not to do? Like it's 693 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 7: I don't know. Again, it's alrmal White problem, the fertwoity crisis, 694 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:53,840 Speaker 7: and there are several probably reasons that can be both political, biological, cultural, 695 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,359 Speaker 7: But I think that at the very bottom is just 696 00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:02,360 Speaker 7: an extremely individualistic culture and everyone just think about themselves 697 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,919 Speaker 7: and for themselves. They want to have money for their own, 698 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 7: they want to be successful on their own, and no 699 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:12,319 Speaker 7: one cares any more about what will happen to them. 700 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 7: There's not anymore some kind of overarching principle and guiding 701 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:24,240 Speaker 7: reality that pushes them to have a lineage in the future. 702 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 7: So I think it's still a collapse of meaning. 703 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,920 Speaker 5: I think ultimately it's a value fight, and that's tough 704 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 5: because the values are tough to change. I had a 705 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,080 Speaker 5: friend who was just in Israel and he was saying 706 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,200 Speaker 5: it was so jarring to see. It's not just that 707 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,799 Speaker 5: there's kids everywhere compared to the US or anywhere else, 708 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,640 Speaker 5: but that it so aggressively comes up when you talk 709 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,799 Speaker 5: to someone, they're rapidly going to brag, Oh, yeah, I 710 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,359 Speaker 5: have four kids already, I have five kids. It's such 711 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 5: a point of pride. It's so well, you know, baked 712 00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:53,400 Speaker 5: into everything. That's what drives it. 713 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,160 Speaker 4: You're right, Israel is this loan standout on the in 714 00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,320 Speaker 4: the world right now because people think about Sub Saharan 715 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:03,040 Speaker 4: Africa is this massively fertile area, and historically they would 716 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 4: be correct, but they are seeing dramatic drops in fertility 717 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:10,279 Speaker 4: and Sub Saharan Africa even this one standout is very fascinating. 718 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,400 Speaker 4: That's Israel. And because Israel is a value based country 719 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 4: right well, people are there often because of their their religion, 720 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:21,800 Speaker 4: because of their their ethnicity. And what's really fascinating about 721 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,799 Speaker 4: Israel is the group that's losing fertility rates right now 722 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:28,440 Speaker 4: are the Muslims within Israel. The people that are sustaining 723 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,279 Speaker 4: their fertility rates are the Jews. It's a very fascinating extent, 724 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:35,520 Speaker 4: which just underscores that it's a value proposition exactly. 725 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,000 Speaker 6: Man, it's it's bleak. 726 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 5: Vittorio, I have to say because it does feel like 727 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 5: it's when it's a problem that's almost everywhere in the world, 728 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,720 Speaker 5: and the ones that are defining it are so unique 729 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:50,480 Speaker 5: compared to the US or Europe. It's it's tough, but 730 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,239 Speaker 5: we're very thankful for you for laying it out in 731 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,520 Speaker 5: a clear cut way. I think there is rising awareness 732 00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:57,719 Speaker 5: of the nature. 733 00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 3: Of the problems to Elms and Charles. 734 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,120 Speaker 5: Yes, and I think we're we are going to have 735 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:07,680 Speaker 5: to make the push for a revolution in values in 736 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 5: the West, and it's kind of the only way I 737 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:11,640 Speaker 5: think you can turn it around. 738 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,919 Speaker 4: And this this push about individualism, we are not individualists. 739 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 4: We're we're more community based. We're not collectivists. We're not individualists. 740 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:22,560 Speaker 4: We're about community. We're about uh, shared meaning as a 741 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,440 Speaker 4: as a you know community, as a as a local community, 742 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:26,400 Speaker 4: as a church community. 743 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 3: Vittorio, really fascinating stuff. 744 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,560 Speaker 4: Thank you so much for your contribution to this discussion, 745 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,799 Speaker 4: and uh, you know, good, good job you cut through 746 00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 4: the algorithm. 747 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:36,840 Speaker 7: Thank you for having me. It was a pleasure. 748 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,520 Speaker 8: For more on many of these stories and news you 749 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,520 Speaker 8: can trust, go to Charliekirk dot com.