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<v Speaker 1>iTunes and Hillsdale Morning Laura and Etan grayce America. The

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<v Speaker 1>first week of the war is in the books, and

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<v Speaker 1>the Big Weekend Pod is all about that. John ellis

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<v Speaker 1>of course with news maybe not related to the war.

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<v Speaker 1>There's other news out there, including very bad job numbers

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<v Speaker 1>today in a very weak market that's worried about the

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<v Speaker 1>price of oil, a little bit of pants wedding going

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<v Speaker 1>on around the world because this war is not going

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<v Speaker 1>to last more than two months. Them are going to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the war with Matt Continetti, with Ben Dominic,

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<v Speaker 1>with Eli Lake, and then of course the Hillsdale Dialogue

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<v Speaker 1>coming up. But here on the Big Weekend Pod, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't do the Hillsdale Dialogue. You can find that at

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<v Speaker 1>Hugh for Hillsdale dot com. We're focused on the news

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<v Speaker 1>and just the news on the Big Weekend, so stay

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<v Speaker 1>tuned and don't go anywhere. Welcome back in America on

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<v Speaker 1>j Hewett. Matt Continetti has, of course, senior Fellow and

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<v Speaker 1>Domestic Studies at the American Enterprise Institute. He's also the

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<v Speaker 1>Free Expressions columnist at the Wall Street Journal. In today's column,

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<v Speaker 1>he writes, at the through line of Donald Trump's foreign

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<v Speaker 1>policy for forty years as been Iran, Matt, it got

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<v Speaker 1>a new iteration day to unconditional surrender. Dwayne did this

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<v Speaker 1>picture for me because I can't work chet sheetp on

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<v Speaker 1>the images. But the original unconditional surrender man was Grant

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<v Speaker 1>and he said it the Fort Donaldson and he he

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<v Speaker 1>just met walk out and lay everything down. What do

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<v Speaker 1>you think Trump meets by unconditional surrender, Well, Hugh.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he can mean a few things.

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<v Speaker 3>The first is that he's going to eliminate Iran's capacity

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<v Speaker 3>to so mayhem around the region, so decimate the Iranian

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<v Speaker 3>war machine. They're also going after Iran's apparatus of repression,

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<v Speaker 3>the institutions like the IRGC and the basiege militia that

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<v Speaker 3>slaughtered the thirty thousand Iranians during the recent protests. So

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<v Speaker 3>unconditional surrender would mean a fundamental change in the Iranian government,

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<v Speaker 3>either a new form of government, a new leader emerges

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<v Speaker 3>that says that they are going to act according to

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<v Speaker 3>Trump's will, that sort of regime coercion that we saw

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<v Speaker 3>in Venezuela, or a popular uprising. The Iranian people take

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<v Speaker 3>to the streets once again at the conclusion of this

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<v Speaker 3>military campaign and they lay the groundwork for a new

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<v Speaker 3>post Mulla post Aatola Iran.

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<v Speaker 1>Are Americans overconfident at this point? Because one missile at Demona,

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<v Speaker 1>one attack on a d sal in Saudi Arabia, one

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<v Speaker 1>mass casually, event an American will be very unhappy.

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<v Speaker 3>Will It's hard to know who exactly they'd be unhappy at.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they'd be unhappy at Iran if Iran was

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<v Speaker 3>to unleash mass terrorism or asymmetric warfare in response to

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<v Speaker 3>this conflict. But you're right to suggest that the war

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<v Speaker 3>is not over, and of course we.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't know what lies ahead, but we do know this, Hugh.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, the military effort by our sailors, pilots, soldiers

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<v Speaker 3>has been absolutely incredible, and the fact that we've seen

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<v Speaker 3>this rapid decline in Iran's capacity to fire missiles at

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<v Speaker 3>Israel at the eleven other countries it's fired missiles at

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<v Speaker 3>since the beginning of operations last week. Is a testament,

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<v Speaker 3>I think, to the effectiveness of the military campaign so far.

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<v Speaker 2>And once you've.

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<v Speaker 3>Really defanged Iran's ability to shoot these ballistic missiles at

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<v Speaker 3>its neighbors and at our forces, then you can move

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<v Speaker 3>on to the regime targets. And I think we saw

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<v Speaker 3>that in the IDF strike earlier today on the governance

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<v Speaker 3>compound underground. And then it's just a matter of time

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<v Speaker 3>as you continue to layer on the military pressure, first

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<v Speaker 3>against their ability to strike back, then against the broader

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<v Speaker 3>institutions that support the Iranian regime, and we'll just see

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<v Speaker 3>what happens when the Ranians no longer can control their

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<v Speaker 3>military response or their own actual governance in this very

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<v Speaker 3>large country.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, it's not a stupid country. And so what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>calling their Yosemite Sam strategy based upon the Warner Brothers

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<v Speaker 1>cartoon character who would walk into the saloon and fire

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<v Speaker 1>in every direction, what do you think was behind that?

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<v Speaker 1>They're not stupid? What did they think they were going

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<v Speaker 1>to get from Yosemite Sam in it?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, a couple things.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I think they're clearly wanted to test whether

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<v Speaker 3>they could break off some of the Golf States from

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<v Speaker 3>the American Alliance and show that the Iranian military capabilities

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<v Speaker 3>were such that the Gulf States should pressure the United

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<v Speaker 3>States to end the campaign and to also Iranian Israel.

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<v Speaker 3>That has not succeeded, and in fact, the Iran Yosemite

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<v Speaker 3>Sam strategy has actually created a coalition of the willing

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<v Speaker 3>against Iran. All the countries that it has been striking

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<v Speaker 3>with missiles or drones are now joining to various levels

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<v Speaker 3>the US Israeli campaign against Iran. But I think the

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<v Speaker 3>Iranians were also aiming for economic war, and we are

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<v Speaker 3>seeing that. We are seeing the price of oil increase.

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<v Speaker 3>We are seeing the stock market take a hit because

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<v Speaker 3>of fears of potential energy crunch. Not so much in

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<v Speaker 3>the United States thanks to Donald Trump's energy policies over

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<v Speaker 3>the past decade, but it Europe and certainly in the Pacific.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think that's where we got. Ninety dollars at

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<v Speaker 1>barrel today is considerably higher than sixty, and so I

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<v Speaker 1>assume the pump price will go up by a third,

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<v Speaker 1>don't you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's right, it's already increasing here. But again I

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<v Speaker 3>think really the people who'll bear the brunt of it

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<v Speaker 3>aren't necessarily in the United States, but they're in the

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<v Speaker 3>Pacific Rim, they're in Europe, so they're gonna do. The

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<v Speaker 3>Iranians hope exert some pressure on Trump, but what we've

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<v Speaker 3>seen so far is Trump is not not succumbing to

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<v Speaker 3>this pressure.

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<v Speaker 2>He wants the campaign to succeed. He wants victory.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to talk Mark Wayne Mullin with Matt during

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<v Speaker 1>the break, and on the other side, we'll be talking

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<v Speaker 1>about what the United States has to do to prepare

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<v Speaker 1>for the grandest strategy implications of the state tuned America.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm back with Matt Continetti for the big weekend pod.

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<v Speaker 1>Matt this morning, I was up early for Fox and

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<v Speaker 1>Friends and asked about the Mark Wayne Mullen choice. My

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<v Speaker 1>assessment is that Donald Trump is a ruthless patriot, meaning

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<v Speaker 1>he's in a war now and he really cannot afford

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<v Speaker 1>a side show that Christy nomand become, and he's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be ruthless about, you know, taking out people who

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<v Speaker 1>are or are detracting from the war effort. Will that continue?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think? Because he's generally been very reluctant to

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<v Speaker 1>exile people.

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<v Speaker 3>That's true, and the Gnome to Mullen, the switch would

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<v Speaker 3>be the first major switch in this cabinet, which is,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, considering the record in the first term, quite incredible.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you know, it's a great question, Hugh.

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<v Speaker 3>I was recently reading some of our friends, Victor Davis

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<v Speaker 3>Hansen's work on war, and he said, you know, a

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<v Speaker 3>war president needs to be ruthless about the types of

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<v Speaker 3>leaders that he hires to prosecute a war. And he

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<v Speaker 3>talked about Lincoln in the generals, and we saw George W.

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<v Speaker 2>Bush in the Iraq war.

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<v Speaker 3>Wasn't until he made that changed to David Petraeus and

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<v Speaker 3>that shift in strategy with the surgeon in Iraq that

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<v Speaker 3>the situation in Iraq began to turn around after several

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<v Speaker 3>years of insurgency.

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<v Speaker 2>So I would hope that.

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<v Speaker 3>President Trump would follow in the footsteps of great war

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<v Speaker 3>leaders and say, look, if you're not implementing the plan,

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<v Speaker 3>if you were not furthering the cause of victory, then

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<v Speaker 3>we're going to have to find somebody else.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was clear on the home front.

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<v Speaker 3>That Secretary Gnome had become a distraction and even a

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<v Speaker 3>political liability, and that we needed a shift in our

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<v Speaker 3>tactics on mass deportations away from these very dramatic raids

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<v Speaker 3>and blue cities to a more focused approach that's been

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<v Speaker 3>advocated by Tom Holman. So I think this was the

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<v Speaker 3>correct move by Trump, and I don't anticipate that Mullen

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<v Speaker 3>will have any difficulty getting confirmed.

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<v Speaker 1>Our Democrats in danger if they slow down Mullin. We

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<v Speaker 1>got sleepers in the United States. The hes be law

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<v Speaker 1>round up in New Jersey last year. For real. If

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<v Speaker 1>there's an attack and we haven't got DHS secretary because

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<v Speaker 1>of the Democrat that's going around or Ran Paul even

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<v Speaker 1>as chairman, do they pay a price?

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<v Speaker 2>Well they should.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm struck as I'm watching this.

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<v Speaker 3>Politically from the Iran War, the Republicans are unified. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>there are some loan dissenters, but for more or less,

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<v Speaker 3>the polls show, and it's reflected in the Congress, Republicans

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<v Speaker 3>are unified behind Trump. The Democrats, I think are unserious.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not only that they're continuing to block funding for

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<v Speaker 3>the Department of Homeland Security at a time of war,

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<v Speaker 3>but that they're also voting on the one hand against

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<v Speaker 3>Trump's powers as commander in chief and on the other

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<v Speaker 3>they're admitting that Iran is the world's largest sponsor of terrorism. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>if you think that the Iran, if you correctly, is

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<v Speaker 3>the world's largest sponsor terrorism, why would you limit the

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<v Speaker 3>US Commander in chief's ability to punish Iran, to in

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<v Speaker 3>fact change the behavior of Ron to end the threat

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<v Speaker 3>from Iran, as he's doing right now. Meanwhile, you have

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<v Speaker 3>Gavin Newsom saying Israel's in apartheid state, declaring war on

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<v Speaker 3>Israel rhetorically at a time when we were fighting Iran.

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<v Speaker 1>It is the descent of Democratic Party rhetoric into incoherence.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be right back with Matt Continetti. Go nowhere except

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<v Speaker 1>to X follow Matt on act at Continetti. I'm back

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<v Speaker 1>with mac Continetti America. Matt, of course is at the

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<v Speaker 1>Wall Street Journal for Expressions column and AEI. Matt, I

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<v Speaker 1>have been using my Goldilock strategy. But the argument is

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<v Speaker 1>premised on nineteen ninety one was too little. We shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>have quit after one hundred hours. We should have gone

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<v Speaker 1>after said am we had to go back. The too

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<v Speaker 1>big is two thousand and three. We went, we stayed,

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<v Speaker 1>We stayed. In fact, we're still there. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>just write strategy in Iran, but I don't articulate it.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think about a Goldilock strategy? What's it

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<v Speaker 1>look like in the end in five years?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, in five years we won in Iran.

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<v Speaker 3>That's not a threat to our neighbor, its neighbors, and

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<v Speaker 3>our allies, and then little least, it's not a threat

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<v Speaker 3>to Europe or ultimately to the United States because of

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<v Speaker 3>its missile program. That's not fomenting terrorism around the world

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<v Speaker 3>and is not repressing its own people. That's the goal,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think those are achievable goals if you apply

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<v Speaker 3>the correct means.

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<v Speaker 2>You're right.

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<v Speaker 3>In nineteen ninety one, we didn't go far enough. We

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<v Speaker 3>left a week in Saddam in place, and we had

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<v Speaker 3>a decade where we were trying to contain Saddam ultimately unsuccessfully,

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<v Speaker 3>and that required Operation Iraqi Freedom in two thousand and three,

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<v Speaker 3>I think.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd like to talk about with the Iraq War.

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<v Speaker 3>Though you know, the initial Iraq War was stunning success.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yes, Saddam fell within six weeks. The regime ended

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<v Speaker 3>within six weeks. When people criticized the Forever War in Iraq,

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<v Speaker 3>it's not the original operation, it's the years we spent

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<v Speaker 3>combating the insurgency, and there I would say the reason

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<v Speaker 3>we failed to combat the insurgency effectively for years was

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<v Speaker 3>we didn't go big enough.

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<v Speaker 2>Then.

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<v Speaker 3>In fact, we didn't have the number of troops that

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<v Speaker 3>were necessary. In fact, we had been denied by Turkey.

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<v Speaker 2>To have it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so glad you said it. I was going to

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<v Speaker 1>bring up and from there that the northern offensive was

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<v Speaker 1>shut off at the last minute by the Turks. Are

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<v Speaker 1>not so great allies. We are doing it again, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's always important to remember.

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<v Speaker 3>So look, I don't think we need a huge ground

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<v Speaker 3>force right now in Iran.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think we're going to need it. That's not

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<v Speaker 2>what're happening here.

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<v Speaker 3>But what I'm saying is we need to understand how

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<v Speaker 3>we get to the desired political end state and what

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<v Speaker 3>that for Iran. What that means is first denying the

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<v Speaker 3>capability of the regime to retaliate, then to destroy from

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<v Speaker 3>the air all of the instant tuitions of repression that

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<v Speaker 3>have kept the Iranian people down, and then third doing

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<v Speaker 3>what's necessary to allow the Iranian people to encourage them,

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<v Speaker 3>to give them the means to rise up and take

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<v Speaker 3>their country back. From the Mullas. And on that third point,

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<v Speaker 3>I just want to say our expert here at Ai

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<v Speaker 3>Fred Kagan, has passionately made the case that we need

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<v Speaker 3>to be providing communications to the Iranian people, that the

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<v Speaker 3>Mullas continue to suppress Internet activity in Iran, and so

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<v Speaker 3>we need to do everything we can to provide starlink

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<v Speaker 3>to somehow restore avenues of communication so that the Iranian

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<v Speaker 3>people can communicate with each other and amplify the networks

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<v Speaker 3>of descent that will be necessary for them when the

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<v Speaker 3>time comes to go to the streets and take back

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<v Speaker 3>their country.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, Fred Kagan did an Aaron McClain School of War

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<v Speaker 1>podcast earlier this week which was truly a lesson in

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<v Speaker 1>perspective on this, and I would recommend it to everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to close with grand strategy, Matt, what do

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<v Speaker 1>you think the Chinese are sinking and seeing right now?

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<v Speaker 1>Do they think and see we're running low on monitions

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<v Speaker 1>or do they think and see, Holy smokes, the Israeli

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<v Speaker 1>American Alliance is a few iterations ahead of us on tech.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I think the first thing they're seeing is that

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<v Speaker 3>there is only one country in the world that can

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<v Speaker 3>do what America is doing right now in Iran. There's

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<v Speaker 3>only one country in the world here that could project

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<v Speaker 3>this amount of power on the other side of the

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<v Speaker 3>planet in accordance or in related cooperation with this ally Israel,

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<v Speaker 3>this small, tiny country that has one of the most

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<v Speaker 3>capable air forces in the world, as Admiral Cooper stated,

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<v Speaker 3>the two most powerful air forces in the world combining

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<v Speaker 3>forces against the regime in Iran. China is noticing that,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think recognizing that it still has a ways

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<v Speaker 3>to go before it can knock the United States out

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<v Speaker 3>of the number one position. But I also think it

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<v Speaker 3>is looking at the new way of warfare missiles, AI interceptors, munitions,

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<v Speaker 3>and will power.

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<v Speaker 2>And so as we look ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>To future conflicts, rather we look ahead to deter future conflicts,

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<v Speaker 3>we have to get serious about amassing the deterrent power

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<v Speaker 3>that we will require to prevent any Chinese invasion of Taiwan.

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<v Speaker 3>And that means that not only are we going to

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<v Speaker 3>need a supplemental for this war in Iran, We're going

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<v Speaker 3>to need to go and truly restock and commit I

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<v Speaker 3>almost sink to an emergency crash program to get our

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<v Speaker 3>ammunitions up to snuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm with you, I think we should do. They could

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<v Speaker 1>do a reconciliation with a pure majority in six weeks

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<v Speaker 1>if they got the Budget Committee, Armed Services and Approaches

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<v Speaker 1>in both houses to say only defense, only munitions, and

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<v Speaker 1>here's a trust fund of a trillion dollars, build missiles

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe submarines. I don't think the Chinese missed the

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<v Speaker 1>submarine sinking Office three Lanka. You know, we don't need

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of submarines in this war. I think they're

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<v Speaker 1>all in the South China Sea. I don't know anything,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, but that was pretty an impressive display.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah it was.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know some of those vessels are intelligence vessels

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<v Speaker 3>for Iran. So that also denied the Iranians capability. They've

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<v Speaker 3>tried to slink away to Sri Lanka. It didn't work.

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<v Speaker 3>We can we can find them. So the Chinese noticed that.

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<v Speaker 3>There's no question, And again I think that's important for

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<v Speaker 3>us at home to recognize the kind of awesome power

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<v Speaker 3>of the United States here and working with Israel to

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<v Speaker 3>end a threat that has been dogging America for fifty years.

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<v Speaker 3>So China, I think we'll look at this and say

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<v Speaker 3>it has a ways to go.

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<v Speaker 1>Which one minute, Matt, which Democrat has been helped them

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<v Speaker 1>most by the last week. A Democrat who's been helped.

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<v Speaker 2>A Democrat who's been helped the most this week.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's John Fetterman, to be honest with you.

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<v Speaker 1>I think is one running for president.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, Hugh, I'd be interested to see. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think any of them have acted responsibly. I mean we

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<v Speaker 3>mentioned Newsom calling our ally an apartheid state.

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<v Speaker 2>In the middle of this operation.

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<v Speaker 3>We have Kamala Harris, who endorsed Jasmine Crockett in the

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<v Speaker 3>Texas Democratic primary, only to see her lose. I think

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<v Speaker 3>jos Shapiro may have been helped. He he's kind of

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<v Speaker 3>ducked out of this. And then I know who you're thinking.

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<v Speaker 3>You're thinking our buddy Rama Manuel, And you know you

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<v Speaker 3>know the thing about ram is he is a font

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<v Speaker 3>of good ideas and common sense.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's no way the Democratic Party is good at a.

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<v Speaker 1>Way.

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<v Speaker 2>It took me so long to get to him.

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<v Speaker 5>You John Ellis it said they'll nominate anyone who can

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<v Speaker 5>beat the son of Trump, not literally, but just anybody.

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<v Speaker 5>And the person I'm thinking who's most formidable from Emmanuel, Hey, Matt,

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<v Speaker 5>always great to see you follow him my ax A

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<v Speaker 5>continenty listen to him on the Wall Street Journal question

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<v Speaker 5>say to read him rather stays.

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<v Speaker 1>On Morning Glory and even Grace America. I'm Hugh HEWITTT.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to The Hewitt Show. I hope you're watching this

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<v Speaker 1>on Amazon Prime or on Pluto TV World, so now

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<v Speaker 1>all over the place. But you're listening in your car

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<v Speaker 1>if you're inside the Beltway driving home and you've been

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<v Speaker 1>waiting for Big Ben, dominant host of the Big Ben

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<v Speaker 1>Podcast and now the editor of the Daily Wires brand

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<v Speaker 1>new opinion page, which I think is a fabulous breakthrough

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<v Speaker 1>for smart people everywhere. Ben, you are cutting into my

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<v Speaker 1>reading time already. I thought you'd take a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>weeks to kind of lounge around and pretend to be

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<v Speaker 1>scouting for talent. You're already pumping stuff out.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I'm doing that too. In sure, this is the

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<v Speaker 4>sky and the something that I will say, Hugh, that

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, perhaps this is unwise of me, but I

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<v Speaker 4>did start to do free work prior to coming on,

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<v Speaker 4>just because the simple fact is things that needed to

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<v Speaker 4>get commissioned. And so we were very happy with the

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<v Speaker 4>first week of our tenure and the folks that we've

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<v Speaker 4>had to writing interesting pieces for us, and I hope

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<v Speaker 4>that you will be one of them too. I already

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<v Speaker 4>sent you a suggestion.

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<v Speaker 1>So well, you know, you've got a grand canyon sized

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity there. And it can be the replacement for BookWorld,

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<v Speaker 1>for the New York Times magazine. It can be everything

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<v Speaker 1>that's gone away that used to be good.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. Well, I think that you're recognizing that this is

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<v Speaker 4>something that has been a real wasteland in the last

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<v Speaker 4>couple of years. It's gotten worse and worse, and I

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<v Speaker 4>think that you know, there's still places that can do

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<v Speaker 4>it well, but we kind of know what they are,

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<v Speaker 4>you know. And no offense to our friends all three

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<v Speaker 4>journal but it's one of these things that I think

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<v Speaker 4>there's an opportunity here for a variety of opinion, a

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<v Speaker 4>variety of views, young and older, more experienced and less experienced,

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<v Speaker 4>and folks fighting it out, duking it out over all

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<v Speaker 4>sorts of different disagreements that happened within the conservative movement.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think that that's something that's very healthy and

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<v Speaker 4>that I want to feature and promote, and I hope

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<v Speaker 4>folks will come and check us out at the Daily Wire.

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<v Speaker 4>It's been a pleasure to join their team, and we're

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<v Speaker 4>going to have more people joining us.

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<v Speaker 1>Now. I believe in the market. So I thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>And Barry Weiss are in a fight. I mean, you're

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<v Speaker 1>in a death match. It's a cage match because she

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<v Speaker 1>goes and grabs people and you go and grab people.

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<v Speaker 4>And fine, you should say that, but I can't comment

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<v Speaker 4>on this.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, stay tuned, right, stay tuned? Are you allowed to

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<v Speaker 1>put a sports writer in there?

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<v Speaker 4>So? Actually, that's interesting because we were having that conversation

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<v Speaker 4>exactly this week, and that's an area that I want

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<v Speaker 4>to get into. We actually want to grow into having

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<v Speaker 4>the kind of Indian pace that features not just opinions

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<v Speaker 4>about politics, but opinions about other things as well. And

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<v Speaker 4>sports is definitely one where I am interested in having

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<v Speaker 4>some strong voices that we that we promote.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, I have a specific question followed by a general one.

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<v Speaker 1>You are a Commander's fan. You are drafting seven.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm a redskin, your red skin?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well, the Browns still the Browns and we're still

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<v Speaker 1>drafted in six. Who who if we draft them? Will

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<v Speaker 1>break your heart?

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I'm going to be completely honest with you.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm a Jeremiah Love guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh well, I'm not surprised he could be.

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<v Speaker 4>Actually, I think, look, here's the deal. People under rate

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<v Speaker 4>running backs. I think it's actually it's turned the corner.

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<v Speaker 4>They were overrated for a while, then they you know,

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<v Speaker 4>sort of drifted down and now I actually think they're underrated.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think that if you have a game changing

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<v Speaker 4>pass catching running back, who is that high up. I

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<v Speaker 4>think he has a potential to be Marshall Faulk. I

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<v Speaker 4>think he has the potential to be somebody who is

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<v Speaker 4>who is absolutely a game changer for a team that frankly,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, it's it's an underrated aspect of the terrible

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<v Speaker 4>season that they had last year, but they lost all

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<v Speaker 4>their pass catching running backs. They didn't have anybody who

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<v Speaker 4>could really get out of the backfield and catch the ball.

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<v Speaker 4>And that I think in this in this modern NFL,

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<v Speaker 4>is impossible to have as an offense. You can't just

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<v Speaker 4>have one, you know, running backs on the field who

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<v Speaker 4>are assigned to pass, block or run and can't actually

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<v Speaker 4>break out and get in underneath the linebackers and make

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<v Speaker 4>make up those yards. And that's something that I think

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<v Speaker 4>Love would change dramatically, and and you know, especially considering

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<v Speaker 4>you know, the different things that that UH, the the

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<v Speaker 4>team is probably willing to invest in. They've they've got uh,

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<v Speaker 4>I believe the second highest cap availability right now in

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<v Speaker 4>here in Washington. I think that they're going to spend

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<v Speaker 4>that on some things, including probably wide receiver and maybe

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<v Speaker 4>UH and maybe on the on the lines. But but

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<v Speaker 4>I really would like to have Love and if he

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<v Speaker 4>goes before I will be very bad.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not. Yeah, I mean, I'm looking at the NFL

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<v Speaker 1>mock Draft database, which is my favorite site because they

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<v Speaker 1>aggregate them all. And they've got Carnel Tate, which I'll

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<v Speaker 1>be happy with going to the Browns, and they've got

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<v Speaker 1>Caleb Downs going to the Redskins, and Caleb Downs would

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<v Speaker 1>be is a Hall of Famer. I think he's going

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<v Speaker 1>to go to the Hall of Fame. But if you

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<v Speaker 1>don't need him, you don't need him. And right behind

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<v Speaker 1>him is Jeremiah Love going to the Saints because he's

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<v Speaker 1>that good.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll tell you Cardil Tate's a great player, and I'm

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<v Speaker 4>happy with that. Yeah, and a lot of places, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>you know it's it's a lot of places, have you

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<v Speaker 4>know him fall in to Washington. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 4>you what your own preference is. But from my perspective,

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<v Speaker 4>I think just that this in this day and age,

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<v Speaker 4>we are going back to a tenure. And you saw

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<v Speaker 4>that in the in the surprising market for David Montgomery,

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<v Speaker 4>by the way, that this is a tenure where if

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<v Speaker 4>you have a running back who can be a game changer,

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<v Speaker 4>even if they are going to have a short tenure,

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<v Speaker 4>that creates a window for you. And we all saw

0:24:03.160 --> 0:24:05.480
<v Speaker 4>what happened for the Eagles when they pulled off that

0:24:05.640 --> 0:24:09.159
<v Speaker 4>legendary Saquon trade, and that season is really because of

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<v Speaker 4>the stupidity of the Giants.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we've got Judkins and he's real good. We need

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<v Speaker 1>receivers and offensive tackles, so we get two first rounders,

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<v Speaker 1>but we will not be taking Jeremiah up. Let me

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<v Speaker 1>then turn. That leads me to the demand signal for

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<v Speaker 1>Bock Drafts tells us that the NFL season is year round,

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<v Speaker 1>and for the Daily Signal opinion page, it tells me

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<v Speaker 1>that there's a Dan Jenkins out there, or any fine

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<v Speaker 1>stain anybody like that for just an occasional great piece

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<v Speaker 1>on any sport.

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<v Speaker 4>I would read it, Well, look, we are going to

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<v Speaker 4>be adding people. I have the I have at a

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<v Speaker 4>great colleague in Brent Sure who formerly of the Free Beacon,

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<v Speaker 4>who brought me on and convinced me to take on

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<v Speaker 4>this gig. And one of the first things that we

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<v Speaker 4>spent a lot of time talking about was his long

0:25:02.840 --> 0:25:07.000
<v Speaker 4>suffering Jets fandom. And so look, if a man can

0:25:07.119 --> 0:25:09.840
<v Speaker 4>endure that kind of pain over the course of his life,

0:25:09.920 --> 0:25:12.400
<v Speaker 4>he's absolutely willing to have people who write about.

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<v Speaker 1>It dangerous boss. I've told you he's the last man

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<v Speaker 1>to get the fetching MISSISSI at Tipsy and so I

0:25:17.640 --> 0:25:20.480
<v Speaker 1>don't trust Brent, but be careful. Now let's get the

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<v Speaker 1>serious stuff. Dwayn did this for me today's picture of

0:25:24.400 --> 0:25:29.719
<v Speaker 1>unconditional surrender Donald John Trump. And this picture came up

0:25:29.800 --> 0:25:33.480
<v Speaker 1>when we got General Grant at Shiloh, and we put

0:25:33.520 --> 0:25:36.280
<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump's face on him. At least Dwain did what

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<v Speaker 1>did the president mean by unconditional surrender? Ben?

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<v Speaker 4>I think the President is making clear that he did

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<v Speaker 4>not enter this with any intention of having leftover problems

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<v Speaker 4>for future presidents and for the country. I think that

0:25:54.400 --> 0:25:57.520
<v Speaker 4>Donald Trump used this second term as being one where

0:25:57.520 --> 0:26:01.320
<v Speaker 4>he is settling all family business, and that means he

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<v Speaker 4>is going after all the people who he wants to

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<v Speaker 4>take off the board and doing so with you know,

0:26:07.440 --> 0:26:09.760
<v Speaker 4>a precipitous nature, but you know, one that I think

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<v Speaker 4>Republicans have been surprised by, but also one that is

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<v Speaker 4>intended to achieve a new reality, a new a new

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<v Speaker 4>world that is dominated by America and that has America's

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<v Speaker 4>interests in the decisions that he has made. I don't

0:26:25.880 --> 0:26:28.000
<v Speaker 4>think he wants anything left over. I don't think he

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<v Speaker 4>wants to be asked five six years from now, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>if he's still you know, God be with you know,

0:26:33.000 --> 0:26:36.080
<v Speaker 4>God bless him, if he's still around, if he is

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<v Speaker 4>asked the kind of question, why did you leave a

0:26:39.119 --> 0:26:42.879
<v Speaker 4>rump version of this Iran regime in place to once

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<v Speaker 4>again threaten you know, your your friends or allies in

0:26:46.440 --> 0:26:49.280
<v Speaker 4>the Middle East, you know, the people who we care about.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think he wants to have that question. I

0:26:51.920 --> 0:26:54.200
<v Speaker 4>think he wants to take them off the board permanently.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's why I think he's saying this unconditional surrender thing.

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<v Speaker 4>He wants a situation that does We're down to America's

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<v Speaker 4>interests more than any kind of you know, pie in

0:27:04.119 --> 0:27:07.439
<v Speaker 4>the sky hope about a you know, a truly you know,

0:27:07.560 --> 0:27:10.000
<v Speaker 4>free I ran. But I also think that he is

0:27:10.040 --> 0:27:13.280
<v Speaker 4>not willing to accept what some people have proposed, which

0:27:13.320 --> 0:27:15.960
<v Speaker 4>is kind of a half measure in terms of the

0:27:16.000 --> 0:27:18.800
<v Speaker 4>way things look. They're thinking about domestic politics. They're worried

0:27:18.800 --> 0:27:20.720
<v Speaker 4>this is going to last too long. I don't think

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<v Speaker 4>that's something that he's worried about.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree. I think he's looking for Goldilocks nineteen ninety

0:27:25.080 --> 0:27:29.000
<v Speaker 1>one too little, two thousand and three too big. What's

0:27:29.480 --> 0:27:32.600
<v Speaker 1>in the middle of that? Winning, that's right. Winning is

0:27:32.640 --> 0:27:35.639
<v Speaker 1>in the middle of that, and then leaving and winning

0:27:35.640 --> 0:27:40.120
<v Speaker 1>and leaving is not impossible. Here during after the break,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to talk to you about the Democratic Party

0:27:41.880 --> 0:27:44.480
<v Speaker 1>and their meltdown. During the break, I'm talked about Mark

0:27:44.480 --> 0:27:46.840
<v Speaker 1>Wayne Mullen. Leading into the break, I want me in

0:27:46.920 --> 0:27:49.720
<v Speaker 1>a minute. Are you worried about sleeper cells? Because I am.

0:27:51.320 --> 0:27:53.639
<v Speaker 4>I'm less worried about sleeper cells than some people, But

0:27:53.680 --> 0:27:56.600
<v Speaker 4>that doesn't mean that I'm not worried. It's a real thing.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not a fantasy, and you shouldn't listen to anybody

0:27:59.560 --> 0:28:03.880
<v Speaker 4>who says they are. This is a very real possibility.

0:28:03.920 --> 0:28:08.119
<v Speaker 4>I will I will say though, that you look America's

0:28:08.119 --> 0:28:10.960
<v Speaker 4>military has been planning for this for a very long time.

0:28:11.040 --> 0:28:13.160
<v Speaker 4>We had a great piece this week at The Daily

0:28:13.200 --> 0:28:16.280
<v Speaker 4>Wire that I recommend to everyone about the Van Riper

0:28:17.680 --> 0:28:20.639
<v Speaker 4>Millennium Challenge game and what he did and why that

0:28:20.760 --> 0:28:24.159
<v Speaker 4>helped inform a lot of people about what could go

0:28:24.320 --> 0:28:27.720
<v Speaker 4>wrong with going after Iran. I think that same type

0:28:27.720 --> 0:28:31.359
<v Speaker 4>of approach has been used to some degree domestically to

0:28:31.359 --> 0:28:33.680
<v Speaker 4>pay attention to some of the risk points, et cetera.

0:28:34.200 --> 0:28:37.920
<v Speaker 4>But I hope that under this administration that everybody's hands

0:28:37.920 --> 0:28:40.040
<v Speaker 4>are really on the wheel. And the truth is that

0:28:40.120 --> 0:28:42.120
<v Speaker 4>after a week in which we've steamed the departure of

0:28:42.200 --> 0:28:44.640
<v Speaker 4>Christy zero, and after a week in which we've had

0:28:44.720 --> 0:28:47.960
<v Speaker 4>concerns raised about what's going on at BOJ and the FBI,

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<v Speaker 4>that's something that I think Americans need to have more confidence.

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<v Speaker 1>Though we're going to talk about the fact that President

0:28:53.040 --> 0:28:56.800
<v Speaker 1>Trump has gone into war, President ruthless mode needs to

0:28:56.840 --> 0:28:59.280
<v Speaker 1>be inconfident turning to break and after that, when we

0:28:59.400 --> 0:29:01.880
<v Speaker 1>kind of left it an't go anwhere America's big good.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm back with Ben Dominich of The Daily Wire. The

0:29:04.480 --> 0:29:07.320
<v Speaker 1>Big Ben Podcast this week is fabulous. Ben Shapiro, his

0:29:07.440 --> 0:29:10.440
<v Speaker 1>new colleague is there, Ben, and Ben Talablue, who is

0:29:10.480 --> 0:29:14.200
<v Speaker 1>with me yesterday, is on for an extended conversation about

0:29:14.200 --> 0:29:17.040
<v Speaker 1>the Kurds. Again, it's very important. But now let's talk

0:29:17.040 --> 0:29:20.520
<v Speaker 1>about this ruthlessness. I think President Trump is a ruthless,

0:29:20.600 --> 0:29:24.280
<v Speaker 1>tough patriot, in other words, non autocrat. If the Supreme

0:29:24.320 --> 0:29:26.800
<v Speaker 1>Court says no tariffs, he goes along with it. That's

0:29:26.840 --> 0:29:29.719
<v Speaker 1>not autocratic behavior. I wish the Democrats would notice that

0:29:29.760 --> 0:29:33.120
<v Speaker 1>when he loses, he loses, and he grumbles, but he loses.

0:29:33.520 --> 0:29:35.880
<v Speaker 1>But he's now going to be ruthless because he cannot

0:29:35.880 --> 0:29:39.560
<v Speaker 1>afford incompetence. Ben, and you just can't if you're running

0:29:39.600 --> 0:29:39.880
<v Speaker 1>a war.

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<v Speaker 4>No, you can't. And I think that you understands that.

0:29:42.960 --> 0:29:45.600
<v Speaker 4>And I believe that he's been you know, look, he's

0:29:45.600 --> 0:29:49.640
<v Speaker 4>a he perceives things from the outside of politics, and

0:29:49.720 --> 0:29:52.560
<v Speaker 4>you know, as was informed by a lot of you know,

0:29:52.680 --> 0:29:55.080
<v Speaker 4>the things that he watched and learned and read. And

0:29:55.240 --> 0:29:58.040
<v Speaker 4>I think that one of his takeaways was that time

0:29:58.080 --> 0:30:01.280
<v Speaker 4>and again, you know, the American warf had their hands tied.

0:30:01.320 --> 0:30:03.120
<v Speaker 4>It's one of the reasons he made some choices that

0:30:03.720 --> 0:30:06.040
<v Speaker 4>Washington doesn't like. When it comes to the leadership that

0:30:06.080 --> 0:30:09.200
<v Speaker 4>he chose. But also I think it's because he wants

0:30:09.240 --> 0:30:12.720
<v Speaker 4>to really unleash what America can do. You know, a

0:30:12.720 --> 0:30:15.160
<v Speaker 4>lot of these plans just because they you know, were

0:30:15.240 --> 0:30:18.040
<v Speaker 4>put into action or or or were put into the

0:30:18.040 --> 0:30:22.120
<v Speaker 4>process by Symcom, didn't necessarily have the possibility of going

0:30:22.160 --> 0:30:25.560
<v Speaker 4>into action under a different president, you know, meaning meaning

0:30:25.600 --> 0:30:29.680
<v Speaker 4>that you would go for the more conventional or the

0:30:29.760 --> 0:30:33.400
<v Speaker 4>more restrained plan. I think that he's shown that's not

0:30:33.440 --> 0:30:35.720
<v Speaker 4>what he does, you know, when he I mean, there's

0:30:35.800 --> 0:30:39.080
<v Speaker 4>there's a very I was not quite frankly able to

0:30:39.760 --> 0:30:42.680
<v Speaker 4>run this down. Others have said that they have, whether

0:30:42.720 --> 0:30:44.760
<v Speaker 4>you want to believe it or not, that the President

0:30:45.120 --> 0:30:48.320
<v Speaker 4>insisted when it came to that Maduro raid that they

0:30:48.360 --> 0:30:52.240
<v Speaker 4>get down to the POSI the probability of not having

0:30:52.240 --> 0:30:55.200
<v Speaker 4>a single casualty on that raid. Now, that tells you

0:30:55.280 --> 0:30:57.760
<v Speaker 4>something about his insistence. It tells you something about how

0:30:57.800 --> 0:30:59.960
<v Speaker 4>much he pays attention to this. And you know, other

0:31:00.120 --> 0:31:02.560
<v Speaker 4>presidents I think would have been willing to accept, you know, well,

0:31:03.120 --> 0:31:05.240
<v Speaker 4>we're going to do this, it's going to be something

0:31:05.240 --> 0:31:06.800
<v Speaker 4>that works out for us, but we're going to lose

0:31:06.800 --> 0:31:09.080
<v Speaker 4>fifty guys. And I think that that's not something that

0:31:09.200 --> 0:31:11.880
<v Speaker 4>is accept told him he has a ruthless behavior toward

0:31:11.960 --> 0:31:14.040
<v Speaker 4>the enemy, and then he has a very protective enemy,

0:31:14.360 --> 0:31:17.880
<v Speaker 4>protective attitude toward the American soldier. That's something that I

0:31:17.880 --> 0:31:20.440
<v Speaker 4>think is one of the reasons that he is so

0:31:20.880 --> 0:31:23.920
<v Speaker 4>uniting when it comes to the attitude of his supporters.

0:31:24.120 --> 0:31:25.920
<v Speaker 4>By the way, Hugh, I think that this is the

0:31:25.960 --> 0:31:29.440
<v Speaker 4>biggest miss out there that the media has been churning

0:31:29.520 --> 0:31:33.320
<v Speaker 4>up suggesting that Tucker and Megan and all the other

0:31:33.320 --> 0:31:36.960
<v Speaker 4>people that they actually speak for some significant president's base.

0:31:37.280 --> 0:31:39.840
<v Speaker 4>They do not. There is not a look of evidence

0:31:39.880 --> 0:31:42.800
<v Speaker 4>in any of these polls that is not what's going

0:31:42.880 --> 0:31:45.720
<v Speaker 4>on here. He might be losing people who are part

0:31:45.800 --> 0:31:49.000
<v Speaker 4>of his coalition, but the people he's losing are over

0:31:49.480 --> 0:31:53.400
<v Speaker 4>economic concerns, price of gas, et cetera. Hispanic voters who

0:31:53.600 --> 0:31:55.640
<v Speaker 4>feel like he's been a little too aggressive when it

0:31:55.640 --> 0:31:59.640
<v Speaker 4>comes to the immigration side of things. That's all explainable.

0:32:00.000 --> 0:32:03.320
<v Speaker 4>There is absolutely no evidence that these people who have

0:32:03.360 --> 0:32:05.720
<v Speaker 4>been fomenting this idea that he's going to war on

0:32:05.800 --> 0:32:08.640
<v Speaker 4>behalf of Israel as opposed to America's interest. They have

0:32:08.880 --> 0:32:11.880
<v Speaker 4>no basis whatsoever to claim that it's.

0:32:11.760 --> 0:32:15.080
<v Speaker 1>Wish casting by legacy media. That's it wish casting by

0:32:15.200 --> 0:32:17.520
<v Speaker 1>legacy Media. I'm coming right back with Ben dominic Don't

0:32:17.520 --> 0:32:21.800
<v Speaker 1>go anywhere America, don't come back in America. I'm here

0:32:21.880 --> 0:32:26.080
<v Speaker 1>here with Ben Dominich. Ben. I don't think the late

0:32:26.160 --> 0:32:29.800
<v Speaker 1>Ayatollah Hamini was a dummy, and so he came up

0:32:29.840 --> 0:32:33.520
<v Speaker 1>with this, you know, semity Sam strategy where you go

0:32:33.600 --> 0:32:36.840
<v Speaker 1>into the saloon and you just start shooting everywhere.

0:32:37.360 --> 0:32:39.840
<v Speaker 4>And it's a great description. I wish I had come

0:32:39.920 --> 0:32:41.040
<v Speaker 4>up with I enjy that.

0:32:41.240 --> 0:32:44.000
<v Speaker 1>Well to take it, you run with it, because I

0:32:44.000 --> 0:32:46.800
<v Speaker 1>don't own you know, semity Sam. What were they thinking?

0:32:47.040 --> 0:32:48.640
<v Speaker 1>What was the thinking behind that?

0:32:48.800 --> 0:32:55.480
<v Speaker 4>Which I mean oman like, yeah, we were like it's

0:32:55.520 --> 0:32:58.800
<v Speaker 4>just catching strays out here. It's just like, I mean,

0:32:58.840 --> 0:33:03.280
<v Speaker 4>it's Look. Shapiro has a theory about this, which he

0:33:03.360 --> 0:33:06.160
<v Speaker 4>says on my podcast, which is that they wanted to

0:33:06.240 --> 0:33:08.640
<v Speaker 4>just bring other people into the war and then have

0:33:08.760 --> 0:33:12.040
<v Speaker 4>them essentially get in the president's year and say, hey,

0:33:12.040 --> 0:33:13.760
<v Speaker 4>you got to slow things down or you can't do

0:33:13.920 --> 0:33:16.520
<v Speaker 4>everything the Israelis want you to do. If that was

0:33:16.520 --> 0:33:19.320
<v Speaker 4>their strategy, it was a bad strategy and it didn't work.

0:33:19.920 --> 0:33:23.320
<v Speaker 4>It's also one that frankly had set up a situation where,

0:33:23.800 --> 0:33:26.120
<v Speaker 4>you know, we already talked about a week into Ron,

0:33:26.480 --> 0:33:30.080
<v Speaker 4>their inability to project power after everything that Israel has

0:33:30.080 --> 0:33:33.120
<v Speaker 4>been able to do to their proxies across the region,

0:33:33.400 --> 0:33:36.920
<v Speaker 4>and everything that has happened to them economically and internally,

0:33:37.000 --> 0:33:40.760
<v Speaker 4>that has completely undermined their authority and ability to control

0:33:41.000 --> 0:33:43.280
<v Speaker 4>their own populace, which of course led to those tens

0:33:43.280 --> 0:33:45.600
<v Speaker 4>of thousands of people in the streets too, sadly many

0:33:45.640 --> 0:33:49.760
<v Speaker 4>of them slaughtered by the regime. This is an incredibly

0:33:49.800 --> 0:33:53.000
<v Speaker 4>weak moment, and so my attitude is when I see

0:33:53.000 --> 0:33:56.040
<v Speaker 4>these democrats who were going out there and saying this

0:33:56.120 --> 0:33:59.520
<v Speaker 4>is there's no imminent threat, there's no you know, something

0:33:59.520 --> 0:34:02.320
<v Speaker 4>that's going to you know, there's no better time to

0:34:02.400 --> 0:34:03.560
<v Speaker 4>kick a man than when he's down.

0:34:03.680 --> 0:34:07.000
<v Speaker 1>You especially well, Okay, explain to you Gavin Newsom on

0:34:07.120 --> 0:34:11.440
<v Speaker 1>the Warner Brothers theme, he's Sylvester the Cat. He doesn't

0:34:11.480 --> 0:34:14.319
<v Speaker 1>have any idea what he's doing. He went on the

0:34:14.400 --> 0:34:17.759
<v Speaker 1>Pod Bros, which has become like anti semi Central. They

0:34:17.760 --> 0:34:19.359
<v Speaker 1>should just merge with our.

0:34:19.320 --> 0:34:19.960
<v Speaker 2>Right wing frame.

0:34:20.040 --> 0:34:22.239
<v Speaker 4>Seriously, they should deem themselves Pod.

0:34:23.239 --> 0:34:28.280
<v Speaker 1>Yes, okay, I'll take that one. You can have your Semite, Sam,

0:34:28.520 --> 0:34:29.239
<v Speaker 1>that's pretty good.

0:34:30.680 --> 0:34:33.680
<v Speaker 4>But seriously, the fact that they are at this point,

0:34:34.400 --> 0:34:38.600
<v Speaker 4>like are you it's but for Ben Rhoads, Like I mean, like,

0:34:41.239 --> 0:34:42.359
<v Speaker 4>did you use that yet?

0:34:42.480 --> 0:34:44.640
<v Speaker 5>You know, I may I may delete this and just

0:34:44.680 --> 0:34:46.160
<v Speaker 5>steal that and pretend it's mine.

0:34:46.239 --> 0:34:48.960
<v Speaker 1>Pod Gosh, that's perfect.

0:34:49.120 --> 0:34:51.399
<v Speaker 4>But but this is But the point is just these

0:34:51.440 --> 0:34:57.160
<v Speaker 4>guys they are so invested, yeah, in an ahistorical revisionist

0:34:57.320 --> 0:35:00.520
<v Speaker 4>view of the Iran deal that it was some kind

0:35:00.560 --> 0:35:08.560
<v Speaker 4>of dramatic, amazing, peace loving and achieving, you know, diplomatic deal.

0:35:09.360 --> 0:35:12.279
<v Speaker 4>They are so invested in that narrative that they can't

0:35:12.320 --> 0:35:14.560
<v Speaker 4>even see anything that's going on in front of them.

0:35:14.560 --> 0:35:17.640
<v Speaker 4>It is astounding to me that these people got to

0:35:17.680 --> 0:35:20.279
<v Speaker 4>the heights of power. They really were right there next

0:35:20.280 --> 0:35:22.560
<v Speaker 4>to the President of the United States telling him what

0:35:22.680 --> 0:35:25.239
<v Speaker 4>words to say. And by the way, Obama has not

0:35:25.320 --> 0:35:29.719
<v Speaker 4>been any better on this if anything, you know, I

0:35:29.760 --> 0:35:33.279
<v Speaker 4>think the fact that Donald Trump is cleaning up his

0:35:33.440 --> 0:35:36.919
<v Speaker 4>mess in so many ways, I'm sure it's frustrating for him.

0:35:37.000 --> 0:35:39.640
<v Speaker 4>I cannot believe. I mean, I can't even imagine what

0:35:39.760 --> 0:35:42.440
<v Speaker 4>he's going through, especially considering you know, those.

0:35:42.800 --> 0:35:44.880
<v Speaker 1>I can't answer this and you can't answer this, But

0:35:44.960 --> 0:35:49.120
<v Speaker 1>the pod Bros Plus Ben Roads plus President Obama yesterday,

0:35:49.560 --> 0:35:53.120
<v Speaker 1>have you ready Gore, who's really I think Israel's emerging

0:35:53.200 --> 0:35:55.920
<v Speaker 1>public intellectual. We've had doctor Orrin for a years an

0:35:55.920 --> 0:35:58.000
<v Speaker 1>he had on Micah Goodman, who I do not know,

0:35:58.680 --> 0:36:03.200
<v Speaker 1>my Monetyese scholar. And they used some names like Comel

0:36:03.360 --> 0:36:06.600
<v Speaker 1>from Turkey, and then they brought up Katube and Bana,

0:36:07.080 --> 0:36:09.160
<v Speaker 1>guys that you would know if you read The Looming Tower.

0:36:09.440 --> 0:36:12.200
<v Speaker 1>Do you think anyone on the pod Bros Or President

0:36:12.239 --> 0:36:15.640
<v Speaker 1>Obama have any idea who these people are and how

0:36:15.680 --> 0:36:18.680
<v Speaker 1>they shape the Middle East in the image of their

0:36:19.640 --> 0:36:23.239
<v Speaker 1>resistance Islamist philosophy, because it's idiody.

0:36:24.040 --> 0:36:28.680
<v Speaker 4>I think that this is I think that this is

0:36:29.040 --> 0:36:34.960
<v Speaker 4>upon reflection a series of Democrat elites who were credentialed

0:36:35.120 --> 0:36:38.960
<v Speaker 4>and were so incurious about history that they thought everything

0:36:39.080 --> 0:36:42.400
<v Speaker 4>was new, They thought everything was bold, They thought everything

0:36:42.520 --> 0:36:45.360
<v Speaker 4>was some kind of massive achievement that was going to

0:36:45.400 --> 0:36:47.960
<v Speaker 4>stand the test of time. And the truth is that

0:36:48.000 --> 0:36:50.840
<v Speaker 4>if you know anything about history, you would be skeptical

0:36:50.880 --> 0:36:53.360
<v Speaker 4>about that. Even if you thought it was the right decision,

0:36:53.400 --> 0:36:56.080
<v Speaker 4>you would be saying, well, what if it's wrong? You know, what,

0:36:56.080 --> 0:36:58.000
<v Speaker 4>what if we do go in a different way. And

0:36:58.040 --> 0:37:00.360
<v Speaker 4>one of the things that I think is so important

0:37:00.400 --> 0:37:04.120
<v Speaker 4>when it comes to evaluating these things is to say, okay, well,

0:37:04.239 --> 0:37:06.520
<v Speaker 4>let's steal man the other side of the issue. They

0:37:06.520 --> 0:37:09.640
<v Speaker 4>have never done that. They have only ever plowed through

0:37:09.760 --> 0:37:12.799
<v Speaker 4>straw man their entire careers. And that's what I think.

0:37:13.200 --> 0:37:14.640
<v Speaker 4>That's why I think we ended up with the kind

0:37:14.640 --> 0:37:17.360
<v Speaker 4>of foreign policy that we had under Barack Obama, with

0:37:17.440 --> 0:37:21.480
<v Speaker 4>people who had incredibly impressive resumes in terms of their

0:37:21.640 --> 0:37:26.000
<v Speaker 4>educational experience, but non impressive resumes when it came to

0:37:26.160 --> 0:37:30.400
<v Speaker 4>actually doing anything, living anything, enacting any policy.

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<v Speaker 1>They knew how to seduce legacy journalists. That's what they knew.

0:37:33.840 --> 0:37:37.440
<v Speaker 1>The echo check Yes. So, which Democrat nominee for twenty

0:37:37.520 --> 0:37:40.320
<v Speaker 1>twenty eight has been most helped by the last week,

0:37:40.560 --> 0:37:44.160
<v Speaker 1>Assuming that the trajectory of American success continues.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that given the way that things are going,

0:37:49.760 --> 0:37:53.280
<v Speaker 4>I actually think that this benefits, of all people, AOC.

0:37:54.120 --> 0:37:56.040
<v Speaker 4>I think that she has actually helped the most by this,

0:37:56.200 --> 0:37:59.200
<v Speaker 4>and the reason is that she is because she has

0:37:59.280 --> 0:38:02.920
<v Speaker 4>flubbed so much on the international stage. She is going

0:38:03.000 --> 0:38:07.440
<v Speaker 4>to focus, i think, entirely on domestic issues, entirely on

0:38:07.480 --> 0:38:09.759
<v Speaker 4>affordability on all the things that are close to home,

0:38:09.800 --> 0:38:13.000
<v Speaker 4>et cetera. She's not going to try to win people

0:38:13.040 --> 0:38:15.560
<v Speaker 4>over again in the way that she did when she

0:38:15.680 --> 0:38:18.000
<v Speaker 4>went to Munich et cetera. I think that she's just

0:38:18.040 --> 0:38:20.480
<v Speaker 4>going to say, I'm just about what's going on in America.

0:38:20.840 --> 0:38:23.960
<v Speaker 4>Donald Trump has failed to meet the you know, the

0:38:24.000 --> 0:38:26.960
<v Speaker 4>mission that he had when it came to helping working people,

0:38:27.239 --> 0:38:29.560
<v Speaker 4>et cetera, et cetera. And I think that that's something

0:38:29.600 --> 0:38:33.280
<v Speaker 4>that's going to actually work within their party coalition because

0:38:33.280 --> 0:38:35.319
<v Speaker 4>they're going to want to put their blinkers on. They

0:38:35.360 --> 0:38:38.400
<v Speaker 4>don't want to actually admit anything about what happened overseas.

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<v Speaker 1>How about my my pro rama. Manuel steps out and says, hey,

0:38:43.239 --> 0:38:46.279
<v Speaker 1>I was there in the first term. Obamacare hasn't worked,

0:38:46.280 --> 0:38:48.360
<v Speaker 1>as Teddy Kennedy died, we can fix that.

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<v Speaker 4>To the heel turn. And then I went to I'm

0:38:53.320 --> 0:38:56.040
<v Speaker 4>in for this. I am absolutely in for this.

0:38:57.280 --> 0:39:00.000
<v Speaker 1>And I went to Japan and I know what China is,

0:39:00.040 --> 0:39:02.040
<v Speaker 1>and these people over here have never been out of

0:39:02.040 --> 0:39:04.839
<v Speaker 1>the country and they will not be near my White House.

0:39:04.880 --> 0:39:08.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to go get the old JFK Democrats and

0:39:08.080 --> 0:39:09.560
<v Speaker 1>bring him in and by the way I drop a

0:39:09.560 --> 0:39:12.439
<v Speaker 1>lot f bombs and I'm sorry, mom, but that's who

0:39:12.480 --> 0:39:12.759
<v Speaker 1>I am.

0:39:12.800 --> 0:39:18.040
<v Speaker 4>Well and and unlike Gavin news program, that's who it is.

0:39:18.840 --> 0:39:20.160
<v Speaker 1>It it really is who he is.

0:39:20.239 --> 0:39:21.880
<v Speaker 4>And I will tell you this. I will tell you

0:39:21.920 --> 0:39:24.439
<v Speaker 4>this you and this is is absolutely God's honest truth.

0:39:24.880 --> 0:39:27.080
<v Speaker 4>Back when I was, you know, in the in this

0:39:27.200 --> 0:39:30.320
<v Speaker 4>policy space and centive in the media space, my friends

0:39:30.320 --> 0:39:33.520
<v Speaker 4>and I admired Rom so much in terms of his

0:39:33.560 --> 0:39:36.920
<v Speaker 4>approach to the Obama white House. And we always said,

0:39:37.440 --> 0:39:40.319
<v Speaker 4>if Rom had won out over Valerie Jarrett, this white

0:39:40.360 --> 0:39:43.960
<v Speaker 4>House would have gone very amen and and that and

0:39:44.000 --> 0:39:46.320
<v Speaker 4>that is I believe still true to this day. You

0:39:46.360 --> 0:39:48.920
<v Speaker 4>would have been a better and more effective president. We

0:39:48.920 --> 0:39:51.000
<v Speaker 4>would have we would have hated it more because of

0:39:51.040 --> 0:39:54.040
<v Speaker 4>that effectiveness. It's conservatives, but it's the truth.

0:39:54.160 --> 0:39:57.160
<v Speaker 1>And his brother can raise the money, and he knows

0:39:57.200 --> 0:39:59.480
<v Speaker 1>how to debate. And he's been on this show and

0:39:59.520 --> 0:40:02.080
<v Speaker 1>Gavin new some who said a thousand times he'd come

0:40:02.120 --> 0:40:03.560
<v Speaker 1>on this show and he won't show up because he

0:40:03.560 --> 0:40:05.560
<v Speaker 1>won't take He's gone the other way. Now now he's hired.

0:40:05.680 --> 0:40:09.239
<v Speaker 4>Is he has people been pointing this out. You you

0:40:09.280 --> 0:40:11.440
<v Speaker 4>need to you need to marshal a group of people

0:40:11.480 --> 0:40:14.640
<v Speaker 4>to start teasing Gavin Newsom on the internet because I

0:40:14.680 --> 0:40:16.440
<v Speaker 4>have learned from Ted Cruz that that works.

0:40:16.600 --> 0:40:19.480
<v Speaker 1>Oh you know, I've always thought it didn't work. But

0:40:19.560 --> 0:40:22.160
<v Speaker 1>now I'm so frustrated because he said yes, yes, yes,

0:40:22.239 --> 0:40:23.759
<v Speaker 1>yes yes, And then is he took over and he

0:40:23.760 --> 0:40:26.200
<v Speaker 1>said yes yes, yes, yes yes, and then he doesn't

0:40:26.239 --> 0:40:27.759
<v Speaker 1>reply anymore because he's I.

0:40:27.800 --> 0:40:30.200
<v Speaker 4>Sit on TV with him multiple times, I've been green

0:40:30.520 --> 0:40:32.759
<v Speaker 4>rooms with him multiple times. I'm sure that this is

0:40:32.800 --> 0:40:34.239
<v Speaker 4>the There has got to be a way to get

0:40:34.320 --> 0:40:35.920
<v Speaker 4>under his skin to the point that he comes on.

0:40:36.080 --> 0:40:40.359
<v Speaker 1>Well, he's the first California gave right off the bat.

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<v Speaker 4>Right off the bat, You're going to ask him if

0:40:42.160 --> 0:40:43.719
<v Speaker 4>he read the Looming Cower and then he's going to

0:40:43.760 --> 0:40:45.560
<v Speaker 4>say that you hate people who are dyslected.

0:40:48.320 --> 0:40:50.040
<v Speaker 1>You're right. All he has to do is know the

0:40:50.160 --> 0:40:53.279
<v Speaker 1>name Katu. He can fake that. Hey, Ben Dominics, thank

0:40:53.320 --> 0:40:56.000
<v Speaker 1>you for joining me, and congratulations on the Daily Signal.

0:40:56.040 --> 0:40:58.800
<v Speaker 1>That is terrific. The Daily Wire, not the Daily Signal,

0:40:58.840 --> 0:41:01.680
<v Speaker 1>the Daily Wire. And on the Big Ben Pod this week,

0:41:01.800 --> 0:41:04.120
<v Speaker 1>listen to it because Ben and Ben Tellablue and on

0:41:04.239 --> 0:41:11.080
<v Speaker 1>that too, come my fact any the dealership Blooker back in America.

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<v Speaker 1>by Eli Lake. He is, of course of the Free Press,

0:41:32.440 --> 0:41:36.920
<v Speaker 1>the host of Breaking History, and an expert on Iran.

0:41:37.320 --> 0:41:39.319
<v Speaker 1>Eli were coming to the end of the first week

0:41:39.360 --> 0:41:41.160
<v Speaker 1>of the war. How do you think it's going.

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<v Speaker 6>I think it's going really well. I think there's still

0:41:47.400 --> 0:41:51.880
<v Speaker 6>we shouldn't get too comfortable. But right now it's hard

0:41:51.880 --> 0:41:54.600
<v Speaker 6>to say who's in charge. I think their commanding control

0:41:54.760 --> 0:41:58.480
<v Speaker 6>is severely degraded. And then if you just look at

0:41:58.520 --> 0:42:04.760
<v Speaker 6>the response, the Iranians have attacked everybody from Azerbaijan to Qatar,

0:42:05.360 --> 0:42:08.040
<v Speaker 6>and so they've turned fence sitters who are their neighbors

0:42:08.080 --> 0:42:12.480
<v Speaker 6>into adversaries. And then they're two powerful patrons. Russia and

0:42:12.560 --> 0:42:15.400
<v Speaker 6>China have not really done much of anything to help them.

0:42:15.440 --> 0:42:22.920
<v Speaker 6>They are alone, leaderless, and the strategy, which I think

0:42:23.080 --> 0:42:26.160
<v Speaker 6>you know, some of the more pessimistic people in the

0:42:26.160 --> 0:42:28.879
<v Speaker 6>West would talk about is that they want to try

0:42:28.920 --> 0:42:33.839
<v Speaker 6>to extend it out and continue to sort of drain

0:42:33.880 --> 0:42:38.680
<v Speaker 6>American resources. They may have hit some of our air

0:42:38.719 --> 0:42:42.560
<v Speaker 6>defense and missile defense radars systems. That would be a problem.

0:42:43.200 --> 0:42:46.400
<v Speaker 6>But right now, you know, according to what we're hearing

0:42:46.840 --> 0:42:51.120
<v Speaker 6>from General Kin and Admiral Cooper, the United States has

0:42:51.120 --> 0:42:54.080
<v Speaker 6>taken out most of their ability. I mean, the rate

0:42:54.120 --> 0:42:58.239
<v Speaker 6>of fire from their missiles has decreased. We're probably going

0:42:58.280 --> 0:43:01.720
<v Speaker 6>to see more of their drones, but it's going extremely well.

0:43:02.480 --> 0:43:04.640
<v Speaker 1>They have adopted what I've been calling and you're old

0:43:04.719 --> 0:43:10.080
<v Speaker 1>enough to remember this, maybe the Yosemite Sam strategy. Yeah,

0:43:10.280 --> 0:43:12.759
<v Speaker 1>I remember, I know, you know Yosemite Sam is he

0:43:12.760 --> 0:43:16.160
<v Speaker 1>would fire off for a different direction. So they've done that.

0:43:16.400 --> 0:43:18.120
<v Speaker 1>To what end do you think they did that?

0:43:20.280 --> 0:43:20.520
<v Speaker 2>Well?

0:43:20.640 --> 0:43:23.759
<v Speaker 6>I think that there. I think it was kind of

0:43:23.760 --> 0:43:26.799
<v Speaker 6>a panic move. I mean, I don't know. I mean,

0:43:26.880 --> 0:43:30.160
<v Speaker 6>at this point, we have to it's it's just think

0:43:30.200 --> 0:43:34.799
<v Speaker 6>about this. I was getting I was briefing some very

0:43:34.800 --> 0:43:39.600
<v Speaker 6>senior Israeli military folks, and what they told me was

0:43:40.000 --> 0:43:43.600
<v Speaker 6>they couldn't believe they would have the ability to target

0:43:43.680 --> 0:43:47.520
<v Speaker 6>mobile missile launchers, the way that the US and Israel

0:43:47.600 --> 0:43:52.560
<v Speaker 6>has in this war so effectively even a few years ago.

0:43:52.760 --> 0:43:54.600
<v Speaker 6>I mean, think about how hard a problem that is

0:43:54.600 --> 0:43:58.200
<v Speaker 6>in a country as large as Iran. Some of that

0:43:58.280 --> 0:44:01.360
<v Speaker 6>is because Israel has the entire country rewired, but some

0:44:01.440 --> 0:44:03.480
<v Speaker 6>of it is just because of our technology and our

0:44:03.520 --> 0:44:07.239
<v Speaker 6>ability to do the kind of instant you know, big

0:44:07.360 --> 0:44:12.239
<v Speaker 6>data sorting with AI and pinpoint these targets. But that

0:44:12.400 --> 0:44:15.520
<v Speaker 6>was seen as a kind of you know, impossible problem

0:44:16.120 --> 0:44:18.279
<v Speaker 6>with the amount of missiles that they had. And yet

0:44:18.360 --> 0:44:22.160
<v Speaker 6>here we are, and unlike the Twelve Day War, I

0:44:22.200 --> 0:44:24.520
<v Speaker 6>think we can safely say at this point that in

0:44:24.640 --> 0:44:28.799
<v Speaker 6>Ron's sort of defense industrial comprop plex, its ability to

0:44:28.960 --> 0:44:32.520
<v Speaker 6>eventually kind of renew its military at this point is finished.

0:44:32.800 --> 0:44:36.600
<v Speaker 1>Now Trump gave them the three strikes option. Solimani was

0:44:36.640 --> 0:44:39.759
<v Speaker 1>strike number roun. The Midnight Hammer was strike number two.

0:44:40.440 --> 0:44:44.000
<v Speaker 1>Now he's gone to unconditional surrender. Dwayne made this for me,

0:44:44.920 --> 0:44:48.720
<v Speaker 1>a picture of the famous US Grant picture with Donald

0:44:48.760 --> 0:44:53.360
<v Speaker 1>Trump's face over post. When fort Donaldson, he said, unconditional stender.

0:44:53.719 --> 0:44:54.920
<v Speaker 1>What does that even mean?

0:44:55.120 --> 0:45:00.920
<v Speaker 6>Eli, I think it means that whoever's left in the

0:45:01.000 --> 0:45:04.120
<v Speaker 6>leadership of Iran will you know, crawl on their knees

0:45:04.280 --> 0:45:06.799
<v Speaker 6>one hundred yards still they you know. I mean, this

0:45:06.880 --> 0:45:09.320
<v Speaker 6>is a this goes back to the history of warfare.

0:45:09.400 --> 0:45:12.360
<v Speaker 6>This is basically, you guys were saying death to America

0:45:12.400 --> 0:45:15.480
<v Speaker 6>for nearly fifty years. So now what I want is

0:45:15.520 --> 0:45:18.319
<v Speaker 6>for you to, you know, acknowledge that you lost and

0:45:18.360 --> 0:45:19.160
<v Speaker 6>you've been defeated.

0:45:21.000 --> 0:45:22.400
<v Speaker 2>I think he's.

0:45:22.280 --> 0:45:25.040
<v Speaker 6>Speaking a language that the Iranians absolutely understand.

0:45:25.040 --> 0:45:25.520
<v Speaker 2>At this point.

0:45:25.600 --> 0:45:28.279
<v Speaker 1>Do they get to keep their small arms and their

0:45:28.400 --> 0:45:32.960
<v Speaker 1>mules like Grant allows the troops to do. I mean,

0:45:33.120 --> 0:45:35.440
<v Speaker 1>they got to run a country. And we're not going

0:45:35.520 --> 0:45:38.160
<v Speaker 1>to disband the army again, right the arteche We're not

0:45:38.160 --> 0:45:40.799
<v Speaker 1>going to do that again. We did that once in

0:45:40.840 --> 0:45:42.560
<v Speaker 1>Iraq and it was the wrong move.

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<v Speaker 6>No, especially, I think that there's more likelihood that you

0:45:47.280 --> 0:45:49.200
<v Speaker 6>would see the National Army, which was by the way,

0:45:49.239 --> 0:45:53.560
<v Speaker 6>created by Rezapolovi's grandfather. That was something from the Shah

0:45:53.719 --> 0:45:55.759
<v Speaker 6>that I think is an institution that can stand. I

0:45:55.760 --> 0:45:58.480
<v Speaker 6>think that there was a chance you'll see probably I

0:45:58.520 --> 0:46:03.399
<v Speaker 6>hope leadership defections from there. I would say the Revolutionary

0:46:03.400 --> 0:46:05.919
<v Speaker 6>Guard Corp that was created by Jolakomani.

0:46:06.760 --> 0:46:07.680
<v Speaker 2>I think that's got to go.

0:46:09.440 --> 0:46:11.799
<v Speaker 6>And then you know what's interesting is that they've been

0:46:11.920 --> 0:46:15.440
<v Speaker 6>very strategic this time. I think that Trump learned a

0:46:15.480 --> 0:46:17.799
<v Speaker 6>lesson from early January when he told Iranians to go

0:46:17.840 --> 0:46:18.520
<v Speaker 6>into the streets.

0:46:18.840 --> 0:46:20.080
<v Speaker 1>They're saying, don't do it.

0:46:20.280 --> 0:46:21.279
<v Speaker 2>There's a war going on.

0:46:21.360 --> 0:46:24.279
<v Speaker 6>Bombs are dropping, and it's almost as if we're sort

0:46:24.280 --> 0:46:26.120
<v Speaker 6>of saying we're going to give the order. The other

0:46:26.200 --> 0:46:27.960
<v Speaker 6>thing to keep in mind is that we saw developments

0:46:28.040 --> 0:46:31.040
<v Speaker 6>is that it appears that there's an understanding now with

0:46:31.160 --> 0:46:34.319
<v Speaker 6>Irani encourage there are ten million of them and the

0:46:34.480 --> 0:46:38.480
<v Speaker 6>US government that there will be air cover if they

0:46:38.880 --> 0:46:41.759
<v Speaker 6>want to begin fighting the remnants of the regime in

0:46:41.840 --> 0:46:44.120
<v Speaker 6>the second phase of this. I wouldn't be surprised if

0:46:44.120 --> 0:46:46.160
<v Speaker 6>you saw that with other ethnic groups. I think it's

0:46:46.280 --> 0:46:49.160
<v Speaker 6>very important for these groups to come out and make

0:46:49.320 --> 0:46:52.359
<v Speaker 6>very clear that they are not interested in creating sort

0:46:52.360 --> 0:46:54.560
<v Speaker 6>of separatist little statelets.

0:46:55.480 --> 0:46:59.200
<v Speaker 1>I've talked to the yesterday. I said that would be

0:46:59.239 --> 0:47:03.080
<v Speaker 1>a nightmare if the various ethnicity has all said they

0:47:03.120 --> 0:47:03.920
<v Speaker 1>want the statement.

0:47:05.480 --> 0:47:07.600
<v Speaker 6>No, I don't think it's going to happen, and I

0:47:07.600 --> 0:47:12.279
<v Speaker 6>think that there's an opportunity here for some competent diplomacy

0:47:12.320 --> 0:47:16.359
<v Speaker 6>to make sure that doesn't happen, and then you know,

0:47:16.400 --> 0:47:23.240
<v Speaker 6>we'll have to see I have been critical of elements

0:47:23.239 --> 0:47:25.359
<v Speaker 6>of res apology, but I do think that he does

0:47:25.400 --> 0:47:28.760
<v Speaker 6>represent something, especially now that we're getting the unconditional surrender,

0:47:29.320 --> 0:47:32.720
<v Speaker 6>that he could be this option for a transitional leader

0:47:32.760 --> 0:47:36.320
<v Speaker 6>who has enough recognition and he needs to build support

0:47:36.360 --> 0:47:38.799
<v Speaker 6>among more Randians inside the country, though he has some

0:47:38.880 --> 0:47:41.080
<v Speaker 6>of it. And then I think he has said so

0:47:41.120 --> 0:47:44.840
<v Speaker 6>many times over the years he's not interested in becoming

0:47:44.880 --> 0:47:47.759
<v Speaker 6>another Shah, So he would be somebody who I think

0:47:47.800 --> 0:47:50.759
<v Speaker 6>you could trust to transition round to democracy. But we're

0:47:50.800 --> 0:47:53.200
<v Speaker 6>not there yet. We're still in the war. But it's

0:47:53.320 --> 0:47:56.480
<v Speaker 6>telling that only six days into it, we're talking about

0:47:56.480 --> 0:47:59.720
<v Speaker 6>these things right now because I think they're pressing questions.

0:47:59.520 --> 0:48:02.400
<v Speaker 1>What's very telling to me is that the journal story

0:48:02.440 --> 0:48:06.560
<v Speaker 1>today that UAE continues to allow the Iranian shadow banking

0:48:06.640 --> 0:48:12.160
<v Speaker 1>to continue. I mean, who does that? Who allows someone

0:48:12.160 --> 0:48:13.040
<v Speaker 1>who's firing it.

0:48:13.120 --> 0:48:15.440
<v Speaker 6>I thought that story was like a signal that they

0:48:15.520 --> 0:48:18.200
<v Speaker 6>might be ending that practice. I thought that was a

0:48:19.080 --> 0:48:20.879
<v Speaker 6>sign that this was going to be coming to an

0:48:21.000 --> 0:48:25.000
<v Speaker 6>end soon. I think certainly. I mean, listen, what's become

0:48:25.120 --> 0:48:27.839
<v Speaker 6>clear and not just because of the Iranian response when

0:48:28.040 --> 0:48:31.680
<v Speaker 6>we were getting the signals like in February and late January,

0:48:31.920 --> 0:48:35.240
<v Speaker 6>the Gulf States are really interested in these negotiations.

0:48:35.880 --> 0:48:36.840
<v Speaker 2>That was all a ruse.

0:48:36.880 --> 0:48:40.759
<v Speaker 6>They wanted to publicly say that they weren't supporting the war,

0:48:41.080 --> 0:48:43.799
<v Speaker 6>but they want the regime to go as badly as

0:48:43.800 --> 0:48:44.600
<v Speaker 6>I think Israel does.

0:48:44.920 --> 0:48:48.279
<v Speaker 1>Is it also a signal come get your money and

0:48:48.440 --> 0:48:50.320
<v Speaker 1>you can have a condo here.

0:48:52.040 --> 0:48:54.960
<v Speaker 6>Yes, I think, by the way, that's smart, as much

0:48:55.000 --> 0:48:57.520
<v Speaker 6>as it in some ways is unfair. Lots of bad

0:48:57.560 --> 0:49:01.880
<v Speaker 6>people in a Valario. Yeah, it's Macabellian, right, But if

0:49:01.880 --> 0:49:04.399
<v Speaker 6>you say, all right, you know, and it's what it's

0:49:04.400 --> 0:49:06.879
<v Speaker 6>what Kareem Sogoborg says, and I think he's right. Eighty

0:49:06.880 --> 0:49:09.680
<v Speaker 6>percent or corrupt twenty percent drew believers. So if you

0:49:09.680 --> 0:49:11.239
<v Speaker 6>can get the eighty percent of the corrupt to just

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<v Speaker 6>you know, not show up to work and take the deal,

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<v Speaker 6>then I think we have an opportunity to do something

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<v Speaker 6>truly historic. And what I don't quite understand at this

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<v Speaker 6>point is there is such It almost feels like Trump's

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<v Speaker 6>political opposition has determined that this is going to be

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<v Speaker 6>a catastrophe and a fiasco without giving it a chance,

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<v Speaker 6>and I think they're gonna it's gonna lose a lot

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<v Speaker 6>of credibility if it goes the way I certainly hope it.

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<v Speaker 1>That they're not fighting the last war. They're fighting the

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<v Speaker 1>last Fama and voyants out of the spit.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Eli Lake from the pre Press. Follow him on etchit

0:49:48.160 --> 0:49:51.240
<v Speaker 1>Eli Lake, readam. He's publishing a lot in the Free Press.

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<v Speaker 1>We got to be a subscriber. Thank you, Eli, Morning

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<v Speaker 1>Glory and even Gray. So I'm gonna go Welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>the big weekend review show, and I'll always begin with

0:50:00.880 --> 0:50:03.360
<v Speaker 1>John Ellis when we are lucky. He is the founder

0:50:03.480 --> 0:50:07.360
<v Speaker 1>editor in chief of News Items, your daily compendium of

0:50:07.480 --> 0:50:12.520
<v Speaker 1>real news, and it's becoming increasingly difficult to separate the

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<v Speaker 1>fake and the false and the disinformation online. John, Just

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<v Speaker 1>aside from the six items you've sent me, have you

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<v Speaker 1>noticed that it's almost impossible to go through the posts

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<v Speaker 1>and figure out what's real and what's not real. During

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<v Speaker 1>a war, it's difficult. You know.

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<v Speaker 7>The fog of war is a true thing, and it's

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<v Speaker 7>probably foggier than it's ever been.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there are lots of people who are eager

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<v Speaker 1>to pedal narratives, and we're just very afraid of that. However,

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<v Speaker 1>I want a reverse order of what you sent me

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<v Speaker 1>and begin with Robin Wright, because she's the opposite of

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<v Speaker 1>fake news. She's been doing this as long as I've

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<v Speaker 1>been doing this, and she is writing in The New

0:50:52.239 --> 0:50:55.440
<v Speaker 1>Yorker this week about the Iranian home front. How would

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<v Speaker 1>you summarize her report from Tehran and region's nearby, Well.

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<v Speaker 7>Just the failure of the regime to adequately you know, service,

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<v Speaker 7>it's its population. The stunning statistic is that when she

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<v Speaker 7>first started reporting on Iran, the real was seventy to

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<v Speaker 7>one hundred on the dollar, so seventy if you had

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<v Speaker 7>one hundred dollars, you'd get seventy real. And now it's

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<v Speaker 7>one point seven re all to you know, to one,

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<v Speaker 7>So you know, the collapse of the currency, the difficulty,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, the electricity is intermittent, well water is intermittent.

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<v Speaker 7>It's just one disaster after another. Uh, and one imagines

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<v Speaker 7>that the people of Tehran and the people have irun

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<v Speaker 7>more generally, can hardly wait to get rid of theocracy

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<v Speaker 7>and the security state underneath it.

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<v Speaker 1>John, I understood there we are to be one point

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<v Speaker 1>seven million to one dollar to one. Okay, that's righteo

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<v Speaker 1>point one point seven million. That's remarkable. That meant now,

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<v Speaker 1>wonder the bizaries went out on strike in December. Their

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<v Speaker 1>life savings are gone.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it's wallpaper. I mean, it's it's not a currency,

0:52:22.239 --> 0:52:26.920
<v Speaker 7>it's wallpaper. So obviously there's a huge underground cash market.

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<v Speaker 7>But you know, how do you how do you come

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<v Speaker 7>to the cash market with one point seven real and

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<v Speaker 7>get a dollar back? It's you know, it's a disaster,

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<v Speaker 7>and you know, it's it's emblematic of everything else that's

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<v Speaker 7>wrong with the society and the economy underneath the society.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, we can't really point in California to power outages

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<v Speaker 1>because that's not an infrequent occurrence here on the West coast,

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<v Speaker 1>but we don't have yet water supply pottable water shortages,

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<v Speaker 1>And that was in your notes to me. Their water

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<v Speaker 1>systems are completely broken and if anyone blows up their dams,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not going to do that America and are not

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<v Speaker 1>going to blow up their dam. But if we did,

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<v Speaker 1>they're done. They don't have any water.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I mean, the thing that people sort of don't

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<v Speaker 7>realize about the Middle East is that it's obviously rich

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<v Speaker 7>in hydrocarbons, but it's desperately short of water, and so

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<v Speaker 7>Riod the UAE Kuwait depend on desalinization plants for drinking water.

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<v Speaker 7>So if, for instance, the Iranians decided to do a

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<v Speaker 7>drone swarm and hit the desalination plant near Riod, then

0:53:48.320 --> 0:53:51.880
<v Speaker 7>Riod would have to be you know, everyone would have

0:53:51.920 --> 0:53:55.520
<v Speaker 7>to leave Riod because there would be no water. Same

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<v Speaker 7>is true in Tehran. If you blow up the two

0:53:58.040 --> 0:54:02.319
<v Speaker 7>major dam systems there would you know, there'll be a

0:54:02.400 --> 0:54:05.680
<v Speaker 7>huge flood obviously, and then there would be no drinking

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<v Speaker 7>water in Tehran. So you have it in this weird way.

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<v Speaker 7>We don't think that the Iranians are going to blow

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<v Speaker 7>up the desalinization plants, and we don't think the US

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<v Speaker 7>and Israel are going to blow up the dams. But

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<v Speaker 7>if one or the other does, then the war gets

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<v Speaker 7>you know, it's just spirals out of control.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is not on your list of news items.

0:54:29.800 --> 0:54:33.759
<v Speaker 1>Story and John's news items are available. Just Google news

0:54:33.760 --> 0:54:37.480
<v Speaker 1>items and John Ellison sign up for it. Yesterday's Wall

0:54:37.520 --> 0:54:40.479
<v Speaker 1>Street Journal story on the UAE being a financial hub.

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<v Speaker 1>They've taken about two hundred and fifty attacks and they

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<v Speaker 1>have not yet cut off the shadow Iranian banking system

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<v Speaker 1>that is in Dubai. How long do they put up

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<v Speaker 1>with that?

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<v Speaker 7>John, Apparently forever. You know, we'll deal with anyone seems

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<v Speaker 7>to be the to be the modus operendi. And at

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<v Speaker 7>some point one would think that the US would say

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<v Speaker 7>knock it off, But so far no.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, that's the strangest thing I've learned. Let's move

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<v Speaker 1>to your second story. It's the David Axelrod theory that

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<v Speaker 1>you nominate for president whomever is the opposite in personality

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<v Speaker 1>of whoever is the incumbent. Now you point out it'll

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<v Speaker 1>probably be a son of Trump and not really a

0:55:28.719 --> 0:55:32.440
<v Speaker 1>son of Trump, but JD vans for another MAGA anointed candidate,

0:55:32.920 --> 0:55:35.000
<v Speaker 1>and the Democrats will have to look for the opposite

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<v Speaker 1>of that. But if you look at their front runners,

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<v Speaker 1>they're not really the opposite. Gavin isn't AOC, isn't Ram

0:55:42.560 --> 0:55:45.919
<v Speaker 1>Emmanuel might be, Josh Shapiro might be, but their front

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<v Speaker 1>runners aren't that way.

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<v Speaker 2>John.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, you know, if you look at the candidates, you'll say,

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<v Speaker 7>Gavin Newsom is better than Pete Butter Judge, and Pete

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<v Speaker 7>Butter Judge is better than Elizabeth Warren or whatever. If

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<v Speaker 7>you look at what the Democratic primary electorate wants in

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<v Speaker 7>twenty twenty, they wanted someone to who could beat Trump

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<v Speaker 7>by sixty sixty three thirty seven percent, and so they

0:56:14.640 --> 0:56:18.239
<v Speaker 7>passed on Bernie Sanders, they passed on Elizabeth barn and

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<v Speaker 7>they chose Biden, whom they didn't particularly care about, because

0:56:21.200 --> 0:56:23.240
<v Speaker 7>they thought he had the best chance to beat Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's likely.

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<v Speaker 7>That the same dynamic will take place or occur in

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<v Speaker 7>twenty twenty seven, where after three and a half years

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<v Speaker 7>of Trump, Democrats will say primary electorate will say, look,

0:56:39.000 --> 0:56:41.440
<v Speaker 7>we don't need somebody who agrees with us on every issue.

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<v Speaker 7>We just need somebody who can get these guys out.

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<v Speaker 7>And so that opens up I think a real opportunity

0:56:47.560 --> 0:56:52.040
<v Speaker 7>for somebody Electram Emmanuel. If you read the political press,

0:56:52.080 --> 0:56:54.000
<v Speaker 7>you think it's all about Gavin and this set and

0:56:54.000 --> 0:56:57.480
<v Speaker 7>the other thing. But really it's the candidate who has

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<v Speaker 7>the best chance of defeating Trump or some of Trump

0:57:01.880 --> 0:57:03.360
<v Speaker 7>that is going to be the nominee.

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<v Speaker 1>In my view, and I agree with you, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>rama Manuel is formidable because he is the closest thing

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<v Speaker 1>to Clinton. I mean, he was deputy Chief of staff

0:57:11.840 --> 0:57:14.600
<v Speaker 1>or something like that in the Clinton White House and

0:57:14.640 --> 0:57:17.760
<v Speaker 1>then chief of staff for Obama. He's very much in

0:57:17.840 --> 0:57:21.480
<v Speaker 1>line with sort of center left Democrats and he's a

0:57:21.480 --> 0:57:25.800
<v Speaker 1>formidable candidate. I've had him on the program. We'll see. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk about the AfD and German elections on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 1>Germany's divided, like the United States into states. We've got

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of elections coming up in Germany this weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>Tells about him. Well.

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<v Speaker 7>There are five state elections this year, three in the

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<v Speaker 7>eastern what used to be East Germany, where the AfD

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<v Speaker 7>the base if you will, of the AfD, And for

0:57:52.560 --> 0:57:58.240
<v Speaker 7>simplicity's sake, we'll call the AfD the populist, mega like party.

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<v Speaker 7>It's often referred to the press as the hard right party,

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<v Speaker 7>and that's not you know, that's not inaccurate. The key

0:58:05.960 --> 0:58:09.919
<v Speaker 7>thing that we're looking at is whether the a FD

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<v Speaker 7>can extend its reach, if you will, into West German states.

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<v Speaker 7>And the one that's coming up on Sunday is Baden Wurtenberg,

0:58:21.440 --> 0:58:25.000
<v Speaker 7>which is the home to Mercedes Benz and Porsche h

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<v Speaker 7>And it is expected, based on the polling, that the

0:58:28.840 --> 0:58:33.200
<v Speaker 7>AfD will double its support from the last time. That

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<v Speaker 7>is that is an indication of the of the party's

0:58:36.880 --> 0:58:41.439
<v Speaker 7>growing strength, and it is also I think the sort

0:58:41.480 --> 0:58:44.760
<v Speaker 7>of last straw in preventing the a f D from

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<v Speaker 7>participating in the federal government.

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<v Speaker 1>If it wins, then would you in the state election,

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<v Speaker 1>would you expect Merts to invite them into the general government.

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<v Speaker 7>It's it's unclear, you know, because the Federals are off

0:59:00.760 --> 0:59:06.400
<v Speaker 7>for ways right, But I think the opportunity, the ability

0:59:06.560 --> 0:59:11.440
<v Speaker 7>of the German business political establishment to keep the af

0:59:11.560 --> 0:59:16.400
<v Speaker 7>D out of government diminishes with each election that the

0:59:16.440 --> 0:59:19.760
<v Speaker 7>AfD does well in. They're likely to finish third, maybe

0:59:19.800 --> 0:59:22.960
<v Speaker 7>even second in this election, but they will have doubled

0:59:23.000 --> 0:59:26.720
<v Speaker 7>their support. It seems all but certain they will have

0:59:26.760 --> 0:59:30.120
<v Speaker 7>doubled their support. And you know you can't. You can't

0:59:30.160 --> 0:59:34.040
<v Speaker 7>keep people out of government if they keep doing very well.

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<v Speaker 1>In election now, if they mean a majority less than

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<v Speaker 1>a minute, John, I don't get optimistic about Cuba because

0:59:40.360 --> 0:59:43.080
<v Speaker 1>I've been optimistic about Quba before. Are you an optimist

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<v Speaker 1>about Cuba now?

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<v Speaker 7>I don't think Cuba has any choice but to make

0:59:48.680 --> 0:59:52.640
<v Speaker 7>some sort of deal with the United States. Otherwise I think,

0:59:52.760 --> 0:59:54.960
<v Speaker 7>you know, I mean, they can barely keep the power on.

0:59:55.200 --> 1:00:00.280
<v Speaker 7>It's it's it's a country in full collapse, and the

1:00:00.320 --> 1:00:03.080
<v Speaker 7>only way out is to cut a deal with the

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<v Speaker 7>United States, invite investment, etc. So I think I'm yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>I'm pretty optimistic.

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