WEBVTT - Tennessee's Botched Execution

0:00:01.560 --> 0:00:06.380
<v Speaker 1>Well, how do we feel with this botched execution of

0:00:06.519 --> 0:00:09.990
<v Speaker 1>like a pillow, like a nurse sneaking into the hospital

0:00:10.070 --> 0:00:13.630
<v Speaker 1>room and putting a pillow over her head? I mean,

0:00:13.650 --> 0:00:17.370
<v Speaker 1>is that more humane than injecting? What do they do

0:00:17.410 --> 0:00:19.889
<v Speaker 1>with her now? Now what do they do?

0:00:20.310 --> 0:00:23.250
<v Speaker 2>For those that don't know, Krista Gale Pike was the

0:00:23.470 --> 0:00:26.650
<v Speaker 2>poster woman for the death penalty, a brutal murderess.

0:00:26.810 --> 0:00:27.350
<v Speaker 1>Demon.

0:00:27.930 --> 0:00:28.550
<v Speaker 2>Horrible.

0:00:28.910 --> 0:00:33.610
<v Speaker 1>In fact, quote, I cut that B word nine times.

0:00:33.690 --> 0:00:37.240
<v Speaker 1>I cut that B word's throat nine times, and the

0:00:37.300 --> 0:00:40.700
<v Speaker 1>B word didn't die. That's this nice lady that's on

0:00:40.760 --> 0:00:43.199
<v Speaker 1>death row right now that they can't figure out how

0:00:43.240 --> 0:00:45.839
<v Speaker 1>to kill. I mean, the Supreme Court had to go

0:00:46.210 --> 0:00:50.030
<v Speaker 1>green light the execution because an appeals court put it

0:00:50.110 --> 0:00:53.050
<v Speaker 1>on hold, which, by the way, that's cruel. She's an

0:00:53.110 --> 0:00:56.170
<v Speaker 1>hour away. You talk about cruel and unusual punishment. She's

0:00:56.210 --> 0:00:58.910
<v Speaker 1>about to die. Then they say, oh, no, there's a stay. Oh,

0:00:58.930 --> 0:01:00.610
<v Speaker 1>let's throw it to the Supreme Court. Oh, no. Then

0:01:00.630 --> 0:01:02.730
<v Speaker 1>the Supreme Court says, yeah, go ahead. Of course we're

0:01:02.750 --> 0:01:03.870
<v Speaker 1>going to do it. And, of course, it was the

0:01:03.930 --> 0:01:10.089
<v Speaker 1>typical 6-3. from the SCOTUS. It's always the same three

0:01:10.170 --> 0:01:12.560
<v Speaker 1>libs holding out. They're always on the wrong side of

0:01:12.600 --> 0:01:15.740
<v Speaker 1>every issue. Anyway, and this is not the first time

0:01:15.760 --> 0:01:19.100
<v Speaker 1>this has happened in Tennessee. Or in America.

0:01:19.160 --> 0:01:23.070
<v Speaker 2>We have a lethal injection problem. I think there's a

0:01:23.170 --> 0:01:25.630
<v Speaker 2>supply chain problem with the quality of the stuff they're

0:01:25.650 --> 0:01:28.149
<v Speaker 2>using because they could not kill her. And the question,

0:01:28.170 --> 0:01:30.770
<v Speaker 2>and this is, I don't mean funny like in a

0:01:30.790 --> 0:01:34.390
<v Speaker 2>real comical way, but it is almost satire, What did

0:01:34.430 --> 0:01:36.000
<v Speaker 2>they do with her when they failed to kill her?

0:01:36.110 --> 0:01:39.899
<v Speaker 2>They took her to the hospital. She's getting treated. The hospital? Yes.

0:01:40.480 --> 0:01:40.800
<v Speaker 2>To what?

0:01:40.840 --> 0:01:42.700
<v Speaker 1>To try to make her better?

0:01:43.100 --> 0:01:45.899
<v Speaker 2>Yes, to get better so we can ostensibly try to

0:01:46.100 --> 0:01:46.760
<v Speaker 2>execute her again.

0:01:46.860 --> 0:01:47.360
<v Speaker 1>Kill her again.

0:01:47.380 --> 0:01:47.500
<v Speaker 3>Yep.

0:01:47.740 --> 0:01:51.750
<v Speaker 1>Well, you know what, though? I'm sorry. I'm enough. of

0:01:51.790 --> 0:01:55.029
<v Speaker 1>a conspiracy theorist. I don't think I'm a conspiracy theorist,

0:01:55.050 --> 0:01:59.180
<v Speaker 1>but maybe I am. This stinks like yesterday's herring. It's

0:01:59.220 --> 0:02:01.440
<v Speaker 1>like somebody said, well, you know what? If we don't

0:02:01.500 --> 0:02:03.700
<v Speaker 1>put it in the vein the right way, maybe she'll

0:02:03.780 --> 0:02:07.030
<v Speaker 1>live and they'll get rid of this barbaric death penalty.

0:02:07.440 --> 0:02:12.030
<v Speaker 2>I do not dismiss that at all from people tainting

0:02:12.570 --> 0:02:17.620
<v Speaker 2>The supply of lethal injection chemicals to any one of

0:02:17.660 --> 0:02:20.060
<v Speaker 2>a number of things, and not to be comical again,

0:02:20.080 --> 0:02:22.019
<v Speaker 2>but of course, you know what the last thing they

0:02:22.060 --> 0:02:24.410
<v Speaker 2>do before you get the needle in Huntsville or in

0:02:24.850 --> 0:02:27.710
<v Speaker 2>Tennessee or whatever is they swab your arm because you

0:02:27.730 --> 0:02:28.850
<v Speaker 2>don't want that thing to get infected.

0:02:29.270 --> 0:02:31.620
<v Speaker 1>Right, you don't want a little infection there. That is

0:02:31.630 --> 0:02:34.280
<v Speaker 1>so right. Well, I also love the last meal thing. Now,

0:02:34.320 --> 0:02:38.220
<v Speaker 1>she didn't want a last meal. Look, I was up

0:02:38.280 --> 0:02:40.919
<v Speaker 1>late the night watching this crap unfold. And, of course,

0:02:41.060 --> 0:02:43.720
<v Speaker 1>I always have to make it about me. I'm now convinced,

0:02:43.800 --> 0:02:46.380
<v Speaker 1>because of my new cardiovascular disease, that I'm about to

0:02:46.500 --> 0:02:49.380
<v Speaker 1>keel over any second now. And they can't kill her.

0:02:49.940 --> 0:02:53.260
<v Speaker 1>I didn't hurt anybody. And they can't kill her intentionally.

0:02:53.560 --> 0:02:57.280
<v Speaker 1>And I'm about to drop. I may drop during M &amp;

0:02:56.960 --> 0:03:00.220
<v Speaker 1>M Extra today. I'm right in the middle, and they

0:03:00.320 --> 0:03:02.910
<v Speaker 1>can't kill this woman who's.

0:03:02.850 --> 0:03:04.989
<v Speaker 2>A brutal murderer?

0:03:05.010 --> 0:03:09.010
<v Speaker 1>Oh, my gosh. What's going on in the world today?

0:03:09.169 --> 0:03:13.380
<v Speaker 1>Can I pause all this weird and great news? Incidentally,

0:03:13.740 --> 0:03:18.079
<v Speaker 1>are you catching the vibe shift about polls, about the economy?

0:03:18.820 --> 0:03:20.000
<v Speaker 1>even gas prices.

0:03:20.440 --> 0:03:24.609
<v Speaker 2>I am, and I am cautiously vigilant in looking at

0:03:24.690 --> 0:03:27.830
<v Speaker 2>where this all might go, and that would.

0:03:27.650 --> 0:03:33.410
<v Speaker 1>Be really good. Now they're picking Kansas, Iowa, Alaska, Collins

0:03:33.490 --> 0:03:37.670
<v Speaker 1>and Maine. Now they're saying Michelle Tafoya's in play against Flanagan.

0:03:37.710 --> 0:03:39.990
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to talk to her next week on the show.

0:03:40.010 --> 0:03:40.730
<v Speaker 2>Oh, awesome.

0:03:40.750 --> 0:03:45.420
<v Speaker 1>Michelle Tafoya. But let's just pause for a moment and

0:03:45.500 --> 0:03:48.640
<v Speaker 1>talk about the goodness of of the Mark Davis audience.

0:03:48.660 --> 0:03:51.900
<v Speaker 1>And I mean the Mark Davis. Look, you're like, I

0:03:51.960 --> 0:03:54.480
<v Speaker 1>know you're a rock star. I get it. I know.

0:03:54.660 --> 0:03:58.370
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm the guy that carries your bags around.

0:03:58.750 --> 0:04:02.110
<v Speaker 1>So we did something kind of neat in the past,

0:04:02.190 --> 0:04:05.590
<v Speaker 1>over the years, when we have a partnership with somebody

0:04:06.170 --> 0:04:10.620
<v Speaker 1>that's doing good. Like, let's say Preborn, an organization that

0:04:10.690 --> 0:04:14.400
<v Speaker 1>is saving babies' lives. You can provide an ultrasound device

0:04:15.150 --> 0:04:17.750
<v Speaker 1>to a young woman who's considering an abortion. And when

0:04:17.800 --> 0:04:21.219
<v Speaker 1>she sees that baby and hears that baby's heartbeat, she's

0:04:21.260 --> 0:04:23.660
<v Speaker 1>two times more likely to save that baby and not

0:04:23.820 --> 0:04:28.440
<v Speaker 1>abort it than not. And they've become the title sponsor

0:04:28.600 --> 0:04:32.650
<v Speaker 1>of our new venture that just celebrated 100 episodes yesterday,

0:04:33.310 --> 0:04:37.180
<v Speaker 1>M &amp; M Extra. Mark Davis, Mike Gallagher, unfiltered, unscripted.

0:04:37.220 --> 0:04:39.719
<v Speaker 1>Mark's always going blue. I can't believe your language.

0:04:39.740 --> 0:04:40.159
<v Speaker 2>Stop it.

0:04:40.500 --> 0:04:43.750
<v Speaker 1>Your potty mouth. I mean, it's crap. I'm yammering about it.

0:04:43.790 --> 0:04:47.930
<v Speaker 1>I'm showing my EKG and my health results on the podcast.

0:04:47.950 --> 0:04:50.830
<v Speaker 1>I mean, we get very personal. And we're having a ball,

0:04:50.910 --> 0:04:52.530
<v Speaker 1>and we have so much fun. We hope everybody checks

0:04:52.589 --> 0:04:54.859
<v Speaker 1>out M &amp; M Extra wherever you get your podcasts. Well,

0:04:56.260 --> 0:04:59.540
<v Speaker 1>with Preborn, you could do $ 28 a month to provide

0:04:59.760 --> 0:05:05.050
<v Speaker 1>one ultrasound a month. But $ 15, 000 buys a whole ultrasound

0:05:05.089 --> 0:05:09.150
<v Speaker 1>machine to save babies for years. I thought, wouldn't it

0:05:09.170 --> 0:05:12.250
<v Speaker 1>be kind of neat if M &amp; M Extra sponsored

0:05:12.290 --> 0:05:15.690
<v Speaker 1>a machine, if we could provide a machine from the podcast?

0:05:16.210 --> 0:05:18.310
<v Speaker 1>So I said, the fun you and I have had,

0:05:18.350 --> 0:05:21.390
<v Speaker 1>we've had lunches in Dallas for years with big donors

0:05:21.450 --> 0:05:24.100
<v Speaker 1>that are big-hearted people who want to hang out with

0:05:24.120 --> 0:05:26.380
<v Speaker 1>you and me at a beautiful restaurant. We have this

0:05:26.440 --> 0:05:29.370
<v Speaker 1>great spot picked out, private room. And I thought, all

0:05:29.410 --> 0:05:33.830
<v Speaker 1>we need are five people to donate $ 5, 000. I mean, $ 3, 000.

0:05:33.670 --> 0:05:36.450
<v Speaker 1>Five people to donate $ 3, 000 apiece. They can bring a guest,

0:05:36.490 --> 0:05:40.170
<v Speaker 1>of course. And we'll have an ultrasound machine, courtesy of

0:05:40.190 --> 0:05:44.330
<v Speaker 1>Eminem Extra, the podcast. Mark, we've got four out of five.

0:05:44.430 --> 0:05:45.950
<v Speaker 1>We have one slot left.

0:05:46.110 --> 0:05:48.440
<v Speaker 2>We're this close. We're this close.

0:05:48.560 --> 0:05:53.230
<v Speaker 1>We just need one person. So, right now. Right now,

0:05:53.290 --> 0:06:01.420
<v Speaker 1>if you call 800-655-MIKE, Tracy standing by, 800-655-6453, it's a

0:06:01.480 --> 0:06:05.320
<v Speaker 1>tax-deductible donation. There's only one seat. Well, there's two seats

0:06:05.400 --> 0:06:05.940
<v Speaker 1>technically left.

0:06:05.980 --> 0:06:07.240
<v Speaker 2>Because you get to bring somebody.

0:06:07.640 --> 0:06:13.099
<v Speaker 1>Right. But there's one slot left. Four people, Corey, Greg, Buddy, John,

0:06:13.400 --> 0:06:16.110
<v Speaker 1>have already donated $ 3, 000 apiece. All we need is one more,

0:06:16.210 --> 0:06:17.630
<v Speaker 1>and I think we're going to get it. And we

0:06:17.650 --> 0:06:21.210
<v Speaker 1>might get it today. So if you're inclined to save lives,

0:06:21.370 --> 0:06:23.669
<v Speaker 1>and if you're pro-life, this is a great way to

0:06:23.730 --> 0:06:28.050
<v Speaker 1>show it. $ 3, 000 tax-deductible donation, courtesy of M &amp; M.

0:06:28.089 --> 0:06:29.630
<v Speaker 1>We'll have an ultrasound machine.

0:06:29.670 --> 0:06:31.250
<v Speaker 2>We'll set up the date. We'll get with everybody and

0:06:31.300 --> 0:06:33.920
<v Speaker 2>see what date works best for everybody as we work

0:06:33.940 --> 0:06:35.340
<v Speaker 2>through the fall. It's not going to be next week

0:06:35.400 --> 0:06:37.339
<v Speaker 2>or anything. We'll get with everybody's schedule and see what

0:06:37.380 --> 0:06:39.020
<v Speaker 2>works well. Try to get it certainly done before the

0:06:39.060 --> 0:06:43.080
<v Speaker 2>holidays at a wonderful, close to the FW airport, and

0:06:43.140 --> 0:06:45.279
<v Speaker 2>just a nice, convenient, wonderful place. So if you'd like

0:06:45.320 --> 0:06:48.640
<v Speaker 2>that last... last seat for you and your plus one

0:06:49.200 --> 0:06:52.190
<v Speaker 2>as we celebrate the acquisition of an ultrasound machine for pre-born.

0:06:52.430 --> 0:06:53.810
<v Speaker 2>But what we're really going to do is sit around.

0:06:53.830 --> 0:06:55.750
<v Speaker 2>We're going to eat. We're going to sling hot topics.

0:06:56.110 --> 0:06:58.029
<v Speaker 2>We're going to talk about stuff. Lots of Q &amp; A.

0:06:58.089 --> 0:07:00.409
<v Speaker 2>It's always just a joy to do this with listeners,

0:07:00.470 --> 0:07:01.620
<v Speaker 2>and we'd love for you to be a part of it.

0:07:01.930 --> 0:07:04.150
<v Speaker 1>We hope first one in gets it. So we've only

0:07:04.170 --> 0:07:09.730
<v Speaker 1>got one slot left, 800-655-6453. Call right now, Trace. Let's

0:07:09.770 --> 0:07:11.920
<v Speaker 1>get that one person in, and I have a good feeling.

0:07:11.950 --> 0:07:14.150
<v Speaker 1>All right. Now, let's see how that happens in the

0:07:14.190 --> 0:07:16.790
<v Speaker 1>next couple of minutes. Fingers crossed. Prayers are up that

0:07:16.830 --> 0:07:19.090
<v Speaker 1>somebody's heart is touched and wants to save those lives

0:07:19.150 --> 0:07:21.750
<v Speaker 1>and have lunch with Mark and Mike in the Dallas-Fort

0:07:21.770 --> 0:07:24.680
<v Speaker 1>Worth Metroplex. So go back. Honest to goodness, I'm not

0:07:24.700 --> 0:07:26.980
<v Speaker 1>being rhetorical. What do they do with her now?

0:07:28.320 --> 0:07:32.230
<v Speaker 2>He just can't let it go. Well, they stabilize her. Well, no,

0:07:32.270 --> 0:07:35.190
<v Speaker 2>you haven't answered me. No, well, they stabilize her. And

0:07:35.410 --> 0:07:37.690
<v Speaker 2>now what? And then we tee it up and give

0:07:37.710 --> 0:07:38.280
<v Speaker 2>it another shot.

0:07:38.640 --> 0:07:39.240
<v Speaker 1>Do it again?

0:07:39.500 --> 0:07:41.220
<v Speaker 2>Yes.

0:07:41.460 --> 0:07:44.220
<v Speaker 1>Isn't there like a thing when you survive an accident?

0:07:44.500 --> 0:07:47.070
<v Speaker 2>No, that's a complete urban. Of course not.

0:07:47.590 --> 0:07:48.030
<v Speaker 1>Really?

0:07:48.170 --> 0:07:50.790
<v Speaker 2>We tried. We can't do it again. No, you guys.

0:07:51.570 --> 0:07:55.340
<v Speaker 1>The audience. You get it right. The text message audience

0:07:55.380 --> 0:07:58.240
<v Speaker 1>is in a forgiving mood. Dallas just wrote they need

0:07:58.260 --> 0:08:00.080
<v Speaker 1>to drive a silver stake through her heart.

0:08:01.920 --> 0:08:02.360
<v Speaker 2>Sorry, wow.

0:08:03.980 --> 0:08:06.980
<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean, look, it's hard to kill the devil.

0:08:07.220 --> 0:08:10.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean, the devil, it's hard to stamp out evil.

0:08:10.680 --> 0:08:14.240
<v Speaker 2>And maybe we have a methodology issue because this did

0:08:14.320 --> 0:08:16.920
<v Speaker 2>not happen with old Sparky in the state of Florida

0:08:16.940 --> 0:08:19.480
<v Speaker 2>in an execution that I witnessed in July of 1984.

0:08:19.480 --> 0:08:23.920
<v Speaker 1>I forgot about that. You saw, you witnessed an execution.

0:08:24.280 --> 0:08:29.760
<v Speaker 2>And it turned me into a staunch death penalty supporter.

0:08:30.840 --> 0:08:33.200
<v Speaker 2>People said, if you ever see one, you'll be shrieking

0:08:33.280 --> 0:08:36.610
<v Speaker 2>and repelled by the whole thing. I'm 26 when I

0:08:36.620 --> 0:08:38.429
<v Speaker 2>go into this thing, and I've got a kind of

0:08:38.450 --> 0:08:42.290
<v Speaker 2>a young punk libertarian thing going, does government really need

0:08:42.330 --> 0:08:44.410
<v Speaker 2>to determine when people live or die, blah, blah, blah,

0:08:44.429 --> 0:08:47.170
<v Speaker 2>which is a good sentence, but the ultimate answer is yes,

0:08:47.429 --> 0:08:50.330
<v Speaker 2>because the death penalty is proper. It's symmetrical. It's scriptural.

0:08:50.370 --> 0:08:53.579
<v Speaker 2>It's good. And when I saw the relief on the

0:08:53.620 --> 0:08:55.880
<v Speaker 2>faces of the victims of this horrible man who had

0:08:55.980 --> 0:08:58.260
<v Speaker 2>slaughtered people in Miami a couple years earlier, I was like,

0:08:58.640 --> 0:09:01.740
<v Speaker 2>I said, I just saw something that was good and just. Now,

0:09:01.760 --> 0:09:04.020
<v Speaker 2>that was 2,000 volts at 14 amps, and he was

0:09:04.059 --> 0:09:05.640
<v Speaker 2>gone in, like, 90 seconds.

0:09:05.880 --> 0:09:08.030
<v Speaker 1>Well, you know what also works? You know what also works?

0:09:08.370 --> 0:09:10.870
<v Speaker 1>Firing squad. Firing squad doesn't really miss.

0:09:11.170 --> 0:09:16.510
<v Speaker 2>Is Gary Gilmore, right? Utah, 1970-something. His famous quote, let's

0:09:16.600 --> 0:09:20.179
<v Speaker 2>do it. And how did they do that? They put, like,

0:09:20.340 --> 0:09:22.860
<v Speaker 2>five guys, and, like, only one or two of them

0:09:22.880 --> 0:09:27.630
<v Speaker 2>have actual... They're real concerned about someone... Now, this is interesting.

0:09:27.650 --> 0:09:30.450
<v Speaker 2>How would you like to be the executioner on that staff?

0:09:32.630 --> 0:09:34.980
<v Speaker 2>In the firing squad, some of the guns had blanks

0:09:35.200 --> 0:09:38.100
<v Speaker 2>so that people of the firing squad– could live the

0:09:38.120 --> 0:09:40.059
<v Speaker 2>rest of their lives and say, maybe it wasn't my

0:09:40.120 --> 0:09:42.060
<v Speaker 2>bullet that killed him. That would not have bothered me,

0:09:42.120 --> 0:09:43.500
<v Speaker 2>by the way. I would have wanted it to be

0:09:43.559 --> 0:09:46.280
<v Speaker 2>my bullet that killed him. I don't know what you

0:09:46.300 --> 0:09:49.200
<v Speaker 2>do with the syringe there. I don't think you have

0:09:49.240 --> 0:09:53.250
<v Speaker 2>seven syringes and people going, oh, mine contains Kool-Aid. I

0:09:53.290 --> 0:09:53.710
<v Speaker 2>do not know.

0:09:54.050 --> 0:09:58.550
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's a wild thing, and you know what's

0:09:58.570 --> 0:10:00.460
<v Speaker 1>going to happen. This has just given up. all kinds

0:10:00.520 --> 0:10:03.200
<v Speaker 1>of fodder to the anti-death penalty crowd.

0:10:03.220 --> 0:10:03.660
<v Speaker 2>Of course.

0:10:03.679 --> 0:10:07.470
<v Speaker 1>They're saying it's cruel, it's terrible, it's unusual. It doesn't work.

0:10:07.850 --> 0:10:09.530
<v Speaker 1>And I'm not kidding you. When I'm talking about the

0:10:09.550 --> 0:10:12.970
<v Speaker 1>pillow over the head, why not? I mean, just.

0:10:12.850 --> 0:10:16.570
<v Speaker 2>Put her out. Because that probably is cruel and unusual.

0:10:17.190 --> 0:10:18.430
<v Speaker 1>Well, you're killing her.

0:10:18.450 --> 0:10:19.630
<v Speaker 2>No, I know.

0:10:19.670 --> 0:10:20.080
<v Speaker 1>I never.

0:10:20.100 --> 0:10:22.340
<v Speaker 2>Then why don't we just hang her from a tree

0:10:22.400 --> 0:10:25.600
<v Speaker 2>until she... I mean, there are things... I'm always... We

0:10:25.620 --> 0:10:26.690
<v Speaker 2>did hanging back in the day.

0:10:26.700 --> 0:10:29.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm always fascinated that we're worried about the method of

0:10:29.740 --> 0:10:31.000
<v Speaker 1>killing somebody.

0:10:31.059 --> 0:10:33.570
<v Speaker 2>I think that's optics. And I know what you mean.

0:10:34.000 --> 0:10:36.689
<v Speaker 2>It's all optics. I don't lie awake at night. In

0:10:36.730 --> 0:10:39.090
<v Speaker 2>view of what these people did, I don't lie awake

0:10:39.130 --> 0:10:42.949
<v Speaker 2>at night worrying about coddling them to their death. However,

0:10:43.190 --> 0:10:46.839
<v Speaker 2>as a society... We would probably like to be a

0:10:46.900 --> 0:10:49.900
<v Speaker 2>little bit high-minded about this. We're going to kill you.

0:10:50.420 --> 0:10:53.670
<v Speaker 2>But with the electric chair, it's apparently, from what I'm told,

0:10:53.690 --> 0:10:56.450
<v Speaker 2>it's like being hit by a train at a million

0:10:56.470 --> 0:10:58.970
<v Speaker 2>miles an hour. You don't feel anything. You are gone.

0:11:00.670 --> 0:11:03.319
<v Speaker 2>Lethal injection is like putting your dog to sleep, again,

0:11:03.630 --> 0:11:04.699
<v Speaker 2>or so I'm told.

0:11:05.059 --> 0:11:05.959
<v Speaker 1>Well, I did.

0:11:06.000 --> 0:11:09.760
<v Speaker 3>Firing squad's a little grisly, but, you know. Blood spatter

0:11:09.800 --> 0:11:11.780
<v Speaker 3>and all that, head blown off. I mean, that's a

0:11:11.880 --> 0:11:15.970
<v Speaker 3>little rough. I mean, look, we've all had to, us

0:11:15.990 --> 0:11:18.910
<v Speaker 3>dog lovers, we've all been there, done that. I'll never

0:11:18.970 --> 0:11:21.710
<v Speaker 3>get over, and I've done it four times in my life,

0:11:21.770 --> 0:11:22.670
<v Speaker 3>which is the worst.

0:11:22.770 --> 0:11:25.550
<v Speaker 1>Oh, man. It's terrible. And you know what, though? It's

0:11:25.610 --> 0:11:32.370
<v Speaker 1>the most peaceful, gentle, wonderful thing for an alien dog

0:11:32.670 --> 0:11:34.910
<v Speaker 1>to have that injection and they just stop moving.

0:11:34.970 --> 0:11:38.189
<v Speaker 2>And I don't think anybody's German shepherd ever sprang from

0:11:38.230 --> 0:11:41.150
<v Speaker 2>the table and went, but didn't work. I mean, so

0:11:41.480 --> 0:11:43.500
<v Speaker 2>if we can make this work, if we can bat

0:11:43.540 --> 0:11:47.240
<v Speaker 2>a thousand with this at the veterinarian's office, it would

0:11:47.300 --> 0:11:49.860
<v Speaker 2>seem like we wouldn't be dropping the ball on death row.

0:11:50.260 --> 0:11:53.500
<v Speaker 1>Do you think the online rumors that the execution squad

0:11:53.540 --> 0:11:55.900
<v Speaker 1>was made up of all females is true?

0:11:57.340 --> 0:12:00.579
<v Speaker 2>That seems like a Lindsay Clancy urban myth.

0:12:00.700 --> 0:12:01.820
<v Speaker 1>It's all over the Internet.

0:12:01.920 --> 0:12:02.720
<v Speaker 2>It's on the Internet.

0:12:02.780 --> 0:12:04.060
<v Speaker 1>I believe it. It's on the Internet.

0:12:04.100 --> 0:12:04.780
<v Speaker 2>Well, there you are.

0:12:04.800 --> 0:12:08.939
<v Speaker 1>If I saw it online, it seemed– what I also

0:12:08.980 --> 0:12:12.590
<v Speaker 1>saw was a bunch of heroes saving 175 lives on that–

0:12:13.970 --> 0:12:16.910
<v Speaker 1>fly Dubai plane. What a story. And did you see

0:12:16.950 --> 0:12:20.830
<v Speaker 1>how they called it like a tussle? A skirmish or something?

0:12:20.890 --> 0:12:21.370
<v Speaker 1>A skirmish.

0:12:21.390 --> 0:12:23.500
<v Speaker 2>It was just kind of a disagreement. They were concerned

0:12:23.540 --> 0:12:24.480
<v Speaker 2>about the altitude.

0:12:24.620 --> 0:12:26.740
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they were arguing about the temperature in the cockpit.

0:12:26.760 --> 0:12:33.810
<v Speaker 1>Dinner choices. Yeah, they didn't Heaven forbid they say jihadist

0:12:33.870 --> 0:12:37.350
<v Speaker 1>terrorists wanted to have another 9-11. No, let's not say that.

0:12:37.710 --> 0:12:42.500
<v Speaker 1>Let's dance around that story. You don't hate the news

0:12:42.600 --> 0:12:47.380
<v Speaker 1>media enough. Enough, enough, enough. And Steve Hilton clobbered Becerra

0:12:47.420 --> 0:12:49.400
<v Speaker 1>in the debate last night. We've got some highlights for

0:12:49.450 --> 0:12:50.210
<v Speaker 1>that as well.

0:12:50.270 --> 0:12:51.850
<v Speaker 2>California governor, can he win?

0:12:53.320 --> 0:12:56.780
<v Speaker 1>No, maybe not, but probably not. But there's a lot

0:12:56.800 --> 0:12:59.140
<v Speaker 1>of places where Republicans can win, and I don't think

0:12:59.160 --> 0:13:02.479
<v Speaker 1>you're optimistic enough. When I told you about the vibe

0:13:02.540 --> 0:13:06.240
<v Speaker 1>change in America, I'm telling you, Mark, go with it.

0:13:06.440 --> 0:13:09.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm totally, totally right. Listen, I'm the guy who says

0:13:09.640 --> 0:13:12.040
<v Speaker 2>that I consider it to be a thoroughly plausible notion

0:13:12.110 --> 0:13:15.370
<v Speaker 2>that the disaster does not happen. Paxton is absolutely going

0:13:15.390 --> 0:13:18.089
<v Speaker 2>to beat Tallarico. Don't know about Michelle in Minnesota. I

0:13:18.130 --> 0:13:20.429
<v Speaker 2>certainly don't know about California. But all kinds of things

0:13:20.610 --> 0:13:22.930
<v Speaker 2>are possible, and I think we are going to fend–

0:13:22.970 --> 0:13:26.270
<v Speaker 2>I think we– as you have so skillfully said, all

0:13:26.309 --> 0:13:28.150
<v Speaker 2>we have to do is show up. If we care

0:13:28.190 --> 0:13:30.959
<v Speaker 2>enough about this country, we can fend off the midterm disaster.

0:13:31.270 --> 0:13:32.940
<v Speaker 2>I believe it is possible. I'm going to pray for

0:13:32.960 --> 0:13:33.339
<v Speaker 2>that to happen.

0:13:33.900 --> 0:13:34.620
<v Speaker 1>Amen. Love it.

0:13:34.720 --> 0:13:35.020
<v Speaker 2>Love it.

0:13:35.040 --> 0:13:36.439
<v Speaker 1>See you at M &amp; M Extra. We've got a

0:13:36.480 --> 0:13:39.220
<v Speaker 1>big day today and a big special interview tomorrow about

0:13:39.240 --> 0:13:43.860
<v Speaker 1>the admiral who was scapegoated for Pearl Harbor. So don't

0:13:43.880 --> 0:13:45.810
<v Speaker 1>miss it wherever you get your podcast, M &amp; M Extra.