WEBVTT - The Iran Dilemma

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<v Speaker 1>due doing the Earlief Factors video West. It's got a

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<v Speaker 1>lot coming up. Today's Senator Tom Cotton, Dan Rundy, other

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<v Speaker 1>experts on what looks to be the inevitability of hostilities

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<v Speaker 1>with Iran President Trump speaking about that at the Board

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<v Speaker 1>of Peace. I have that tape as well. But before

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<v Speaker 1>today's program, I was able to pre record an interview

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<v Speaker 1>that will drop next week when I'm gone. Kirschleitcher will

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<v Speaker 1>be my guest host next week and you'll hear the

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<v Speaker 1>whole interview then. But it gave me such great joy

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to let you hear a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of it right now. Dennis, welcome back. This gives me

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<v Speaker 1>great joy to talk to you. How are you, my friend?

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<v Speaker 2>That is a complex question. I'm Since November twelfth, twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty four. I have been paralyzed from the shoulders down,

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<v Speaker 2>so that goes a long way in answering your question.

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<v Speaker 2>On the other hand, I am thinking as creatively as ever,

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<v Speaker 2>and I am able to speak, which every doctor who's

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<v Speaker 2>commented on it, and none of them have been religious

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<v Speaker 2>as called a miracle.

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<v Speaker 1>Stop right there. I'm not giving away the story. You

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<v Speaker 1>have to wait till next week. You can order Dennis's

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<v Speaker 1>right now. It's available in bookstores on Monday, but you

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<v Speaker 1>can pre order it so it's delivered by then. It's

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<v Speaker 1>called If there Is No God? The battleover who Defines

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<v Speaker 1>Good and Evil. It is written with the assistance of

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<v Speaker 1>his dear friend Joel Alperson. It's a fabulous book. I've

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<v Speaker 1>read it over the last week knowing that we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to talk to Dennis today, and we spent a half

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<v Speaker 1>hour on subjects immediate and remote, enduring, an eternal, and

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<v Speaker 1>just as fresh as yesterday's news. We talked about ten

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<v Speaker 1>to seven. We talked about his recovery, we talked about

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<v Speaker 1>the imminence of the war with Iran. We talked about

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<v Speaker 1>all that. But the book doesn't drop until Monday, so

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<v Speaker 1>I got permission just to play a little clip, little

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<v Speaker 1>teaser as a way of getting you to go and

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<v Speaker 1>purchase Dennis Prager's brand new book, If there Is No God.

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<v Speaker 1>If there Is No God. It's in bookstores on Monday,

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<v Speaker 1>but you can have it on your doorstep if you

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<v Speaker 1>go to Amazon or Barnes and Noble right now in

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<v Speaker 1>order If there Is No God. Dennis Prager back in

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<v Speaker 1>the game. So much fun to talk to him. Last

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<v Speaker 1>time I saw Dennis, he couldn't speak. Now he speaks

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<v Speaker 1>quite well, quite clearly. He'll take his time occasionally, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's a fabulous interview. Kurt will play it for you

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<v Speaker 1>next week. Now to the eminence of war, which appears

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<v Speaker 1>to be to me certain Donald Trump at the Board

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<v Speaker 1>of Peace this morning, cut number one.

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<v Speaker 3>Now is the time for Iran to join us on

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<v Speaker 3>a path that will complete what we're doing. And if

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<v Speaker 3>they join us, that'll be great. If they don't join us,

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<v Speaker 3>that'll be great too, but it'll be a very different path.

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<v Speaker 3>They cannot continue to threaten the stability of the entire region,

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<v Speaker 3>and they must make a deal. Or if that doesn't happen,

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<v Speaker 3>I maybe can understand if it doesn't happen, it doesn't happen, But.

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<v Speaker 1>Bad things will happen. If it doesn't, bad things for Iran.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of reporting out of Israel today about

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<v Speaker 1>the order of battle plans, and you never know. But

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<v Speaker 1>the Israeli media does have amazing sources within the IDF

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<v Speaker 1>and the government, and it appears as though the missiles

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<v Speaker 1>are the number one target. Try and take them out

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<v Speaker 1>immediately and preemptively. The Ford is not yet there. It

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<v Speaker 1>is reported to be headed to the coast of Israel

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<v Speaker 1>to assist with missile defense. If Iran gets off a barrage,

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<v Speaker 1>Iron can always capitulate.

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<v Speaker 4>By the way, We're supposed to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Something in writing soon, but they're down to ten days now.

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<v Speaker 1>And with President Trump, when he gets impatient, he gets

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<v Speaker 1>impatient and the blow will fall, and it looks like

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be many blows over many days. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk with Senator Cotton about that. He also said cut

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<v Speaker 1>number two. I want to play it.

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<v Speaker 3>Again, guitar countries. Nobody could have signed. You would have

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<v Speaker 3>had that threat. Nobody could have had. You couldn't have

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<v Speaker 3>peace in the Middle East. So now we may have

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<v Speaker 3>to take it a step further, or we may not.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe we're gonna make a deal you're gonna be finding

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<v Speaker 3>out over the next probably ten days.

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<v Speaker 1>Ten days, ten days. Don't count on it, Iran, make

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<v Speaker 1>a deal or get dealt with. Also today the President

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<v Speaker 1>heaps some praise on his secretary of State. That was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of funny as well. Cut number five.

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<v Speaker 3>Marco does it with the velvet love, but it's a kill.

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<v Speaker 5>The result is the same.

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<v Speaker 3>They do it very differently, And Marco, you really did

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<v Speaker 3>yourself proud two days ago in Munich, In fact, so

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<v Speaker 3>proud that I almost terminated his employee because they were saying,

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<v Speaker 3>we why can't Trump do this? I do, but I

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<v Speaker 3>say it differently. But Marco, don't do any better than

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<v Speaker 3>you did.

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<v Speaker 6>Police you think, because if you can't.

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<v Speaker 1>Be legit funny, that was legit funny. I got asked

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<v Speaker 1>on the Fox News today. I thought I've covered just

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<v Speaker 1>about everything in my life. I've never been asked about

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<v Speaker 1>British Royalty before, but I did my homework. This was

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<v Speaker 1>with John Roberts earlier this afternoon. Cut number eight.

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<v Speaker 7>And let's forget Hugh Hewitt, Foxy's contributed, our host of

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<v Speaker 7>the Huge Show. So with these charges, the allegation, the

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<v Speaker 7>investigation not about sex. It's about whether or not he

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<v Speaker 7>gave confidential government documents to Jeffrey Epstein. But as Jillian

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<v Speaker 7>and I were talking about just a second ago, this

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<v Speaker 7>is kind of like popping al capone for taxibit.

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<v Speaker 4>Well good after in John.

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<v Speaker 1>Misconduct in public office is the charge that's a common

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<v Speaker 1>law crime in Great Britain, meaning it goes back centuries.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, it goes back to before the United States

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<v Speaker 1>was founded, before the Colony of Virginia existed, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty expansive. It can cover all sorts of actions by

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<v Speaker 1>a public official wrongfully carrying out their public duties, and

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<v Speaker 1>there are lots of cases about this. It can be

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<v Speaker 1>a life imprisonment. Now, very few things are as annoying

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<v Speaker 1>on television as a lawyer talking out of the top

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<v Speaker 1>of their hat about things that they don't know about.

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<v Speaker 1>I practice con law and land use law, but I

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<v Speaker 1>dug into some of these precedents, and if Andrew gave

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<v Speaker 1>confidential documents to Epstein from which Epstein could make a buck,

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<v Speaker 1>it's clearly covered. But there isn't the process that we

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<v Speaker 1>have in the United States where we get an indictment

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<v Speaker 1>and a detailed charge of what is happening. But as

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<v Speaker 1>it happened after the explosion of documents ordered by Congress.

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<v Speaker 1>We have to assume that they found an email from

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<v Speaker 1>Andrew to Epstein, including an attachment of a public note,

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<v Speaker 1>and that would be misconducted public official. But it's not

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<v Speaker 1>a criminal statute, it's common law.

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<v Speaker 4>So wait till you get to the sword cases.

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<v Speaker 1>It goes all the way back to sixteen hundred people

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<v Speaker 1>fighting in the wrong places with swords.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's a wild kind of a charge, right, but.

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<v Speaker 7>It's one that was spoorted out moments ago. Could land

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<v Speaker 7>him in prisoned for an awfully long time if he

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<v Speaker 7>were to be convicted. Analysts are portraying this as a

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<v Speaker 7>huge blow to the British nation and maybe an even

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<v Speaker 7>bigger one to the monarchy, some people going so far

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<v Speaker 7>as to say that this could be the beginning of

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<v Speaker 7>the end for the monarchy.

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<v Speaker 4>What do you think?

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<v Speaker 8>I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't agree with that, John, because I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>such an integral part of the United Kingdom and everyone

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<v Speaker 1>else that recognizes Charles as their sovereign.

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<v Speaker 4>And head of state. We've had abdications.

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<v Speaker 1>We even go back to Charles the First who lost

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<v Speaker 1>his head to Cromwell and gang. So There have been

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<v Speaker 1>lots of crises in the long and tortured history of

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<v Speaker 1>the British monarch, but England without a king is really

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<v Speaker 1>kind of unthinkable. Charles has got nothing to do with this.

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<v Speaker 1>Charles the third, I'm glad that Elizabeth the second is

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<v Speaker 1>around is not around to say this Mecca. That's deeply

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<v Speaker 1>embarrassing to everyone in the royal family.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's a pillar of the.

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<v Speaker 1>United Kingdom and those who think it's going to bring

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<v Speaker 1>down the monarchy have been expecting the monarchy to end

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<v Speaker 1>for about a thousand years.

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<v Speaker 4>Not going to happen, you know.

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<v Speaker 7>Democrats were pushing so hard to get these Epstein files released,

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<v Speaker 7>thinking that they were going to fall hardest on Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 7>While the president is mentioned a number of times in

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<v Speaker 7>various documents, there's nothing to suggest that he was guilty

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<v Speaker 7>of any wrongdoing. Meantime, Democrats are falling by the wayside,

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<v Speaker 7>including Catherine Rummler, who was the lead councilor for Goldman Sachs.

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<v Speaker 7>After she stepped down. This is what Democratic consultant Michael

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<v Speaker 7>Lrossa wrote on actually say quote and another Democrat bites

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<v Speaker 7>the dust. How many more deeds will be embarrassed dragged

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<v Speaker 7>through the mutter, declared guilty by association. I've lost track

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<v Speaker 7>of the team blue casualty counts so far. But in

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<v Speaker 7>terms of politics, these files continue to embarrass only one

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<v Speaker 7>party over the other.

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<v Speaker 4>What's the end game here?

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<v Speaker 7>Did Democrats shoot themselves full of holes by pushing so

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<v Speaker 7>hard for the document's release?

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<v Speaker 4>I think they did. John.

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<v Speaker 1>The blast radius is so large in getting larger, and

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<v Speaker 1>it seems to be taking so many more Democrats down.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, it's exonerated Donald Trump. It's absolutely completely

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<v Speaker 1>exonerated Donald Trump. He's got nothing to do with the

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<v Speaker 1>misdeeds of Jeffrey Epstein. But a lot of people who

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<v Speaker 1>were palsy wellsey with Jeffrey Epstein, even though they weren't

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<v Speaker 1>involved with the horrific crimes that he committed.

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<v Speaker 4>They're too close for comfort.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, the head of the Olympic Committee in LA

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<v Speaker 1>is being asked to step down by everyone who lives

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<v Speaker 1>in LA in every adjacent zip code, because they don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to be associated with Jeffrey Epstein in any sort

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<v Speaker 1>of way. Everyone knows he's a sordid, horrible, evil man,

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<v Speaker 1>and so, as I said, the blast radius is large.

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<v Speaker 1>The only thing that's going to get this off the

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<v Speaker 1>front pages is when President and Trump begins the attack

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<v Speaker 1>on Iran. And even then we're going to continue to

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<v Speaker 1>hear echoes of this as Andrew goes to trial in

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<v Speaker 1>Great Britain, or at least his release after a thorough investigation.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just going to go on and on and on.

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<v Speaker 7>It's real quick. You so sure that the President's going

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<v Speaker 7>to attack hern.

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<v Speaker 4>I believe he is.

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<v Speaker 1>I think one does not assemble that kind of ar

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<v Speaker 1>mod of that kind of firepower and then not use it.

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<v Speaker 1>If he did that, it would be a shadow on

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<v Speaker 1>his presidency and on his legacy. There is only one

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<v Speaker 1>way out for the capitulate, give up everything, their missiles,

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<v Speaker 1>the uranium. They might even have to leave the country,

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<v Speaker 1>or they're going to be as many holes around the

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<v Speaker 1>Iatolas bunker as there are around the Friends of Jeffrey Epstein.

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<v Speaker 1>That was earlier today on Fox. There's always fun to

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<v Speaker 1>be on with John Roberts, who knows what he's doing.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be right back in America. I'm Cecily. Welcome back America.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm you Hewett. Please to welcome Congressman chip Roy to

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<v Speaker 1>the program. Chip Roy is running for Attorney General in Texas.

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<v Speaker 1>Early voting has begun. Chip has been a longtime friend

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<v Speaker 1>of the program, back to when he was chief of

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<v Speaker 1>staff to Cenator Ted Cruz. He and I get along

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<v Speaker 1>about ninety five percent of the issues. I'm so glad

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<v Speaker 1>he's running for AG because state AG's matter.

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<v Speaker 8>Chip.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just thinking of my Josh Holly Eric Schmidt.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, Steve Cox is the attorney general in Alaska.

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<v Speaker 1>I've had so many great friends, David Yosta in Ohio.

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<v Speaker 1>AG's in the states matter a lot. Some people, though,

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<v Speaker 1>would say, why change mause representatives. We are a major

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<v Speaker 1>player for to be attorney general? Why is that?

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<v Speaker 9>Well, Hugh, great to be on the show, And you're right,

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<v Speaker 9>we are great friends. And look that give and take

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<v Speaker 9>in those disagreements sharpen us and make us better.

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<v Speaker 6>And I appreciate them. And you're right.

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<v Speaker 9>Attorneys general have a great presence in Congress, in the

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<v Speaker 9>Senate former attorneys general who have gone that direction. But

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<v Speaker 9>the reason I'm going in the other directions because look

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<v Speaker 9>after four terms, which I will serve out this year

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<v Speaker 9>in my fourth term, you know, I think I've made

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<v Speaker 9>a big difference, had a big impact, tried to change

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<v Speaker 9>the town. And look, but I'm one four hundred and

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<v Speaker 9>thirty fifth of one half of one third right, and

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<v Speaker 9>as Attorney General, you're one of one. And the state

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<v Speaker 9>of Texas is under direct assault by the radical left,

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<v Speaker 9>by Marxists they want it, George Soros funding you know, das,

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<v Speaker 9>and judges that are lending criminals on the streets our

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<v Speaker 9>border when it's under assault, like Trump's got it under

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<v Speaker 9>control now, but under Biden, my Orcht it was a

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<v Speaker 9>total disaster. And then the Islamification of Texas. It's a

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<v Speaker 9>real thing. It's a real issue. It's well funded. There's

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<v Speaker 9>six hundred different groups that are doing it. And it's

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<v Speaker 9>not just Epic City and all those things, and not

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<v Speaker 9>just care, it's an organized effort in that and election

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<v Speaker 9>integrity and then other issues. The AG's office is really important.

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<v Speaker 9>It's the biggest law firm in the state of Texas.

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<v Speaker 9>It's the number one AG's office in the state of

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<v Speaker 9>Texas in my view. And look Ted Kruz, my former

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<v Speaker 9>boss was the Solicitor general. A lot of our great

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<v Speaker 9>leaders have come through that space. And so I want

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<v Speaker 9>to go home to Texas and fight for Texas because

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<v Speaker 9>if we lose Texas, there's no America.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>First time I met Senator Cruz was at Alliance Defending

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<v Speaker 1>Freedom dinner at which former President Jeff W. Bush was

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<v Speaker 1>the guest of honor. I was blown away by the guys.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, just complete grasp of everything constitutional? Does this argument?

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<v Speaker 1>Does the debate for Texas depend upon knowing what you're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about? Because you'll win those debates. We might not

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<v Speaker 1>always agree, but you're always prepped. Do they actually know

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<v Speaker 1>anything like what you know your opponents?

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, respectfully and as humbly as I can say it.

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<v Speaker 3>No.

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<v Speaker 9>I mean, Look, I've been in the trenches. I've been

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<v Speaker 9>in the fights. I've been in constitutional issues. I was

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<v Speaker 9>a Senate Judiciary lawyer. I'm the former first Assistant Attorney General,

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<v Speaker 9>former federal prosecutor. I'm the chairman of the Subcommittee on

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<v Speaker 9>the Constitution. I've worked for Ted Cruz. Look, I've been

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<v Speaker 9>neck deep in this stuff. And I think, look, Hugh,

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<v Speaker 9>I viewed this through a bit of a spiritual lens.

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<v Speaker 9>You know, I think you know this that I went

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<v Speaker 9>through cancer fourteen years ago. I at Hodgkins lafoma stage three,

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<v Speaker 9>and I had a four month old daughter and a

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<v Speaker 9>two year old son. God gave me more time on

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<v Speaker 9>this planet. I believe that He's brought me to this moment.

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<v Speaker 9>With the skills in the back that I have and

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<v Speaker 9>the tested being someone who's been tested in the fights

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<v Speaker 9>in Washington, I think I'm well prepared to try to

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<v Speaker 9>lead Texas forward at a time when it's really critical that.

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<v Speaker 6>We do so.

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<v Speaker 9>So you know, look, those subsidient fights are sometimes hard

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<v Speaker 9>to bring out for the electorate to hear them. You know,

0:14:17.080 --> 0:14:19.960
<v Speaker 9>things get distilled to sound bites and ads. But people

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<v Speaker 9>know me, they know who I am. They know I'm

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<v Speaker 9>an independent voice. I'm ninety nine percent in line with

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<v Speaker 9>the President and support the President's agenda and Speaker Johnson.

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<v Speaker 6>But when I disagree, I do it. I'm independent.

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<v Speaker 9>I follow the Constitution, I follow the truth wherever it

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<v Speaker 9>may lead, and if I think I need to stand

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<v Speaker 9>up on that, I'll do it, even if it raises

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<v Speaker 9>some political pressure.

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<v Speaker 1>I really don't think Texas can do better for an

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<v Speaker 1>attorney general than chip Roy. And we're on right now

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<v Speaker 1>in every major market in Texas. And I get down

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<v Speaker 1>there enough to and I teach con law and chip

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<v Speaker 1>Roy knows his stuff. Now I want to talk to

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<v Speaker 1>you about the Islamification of Texas, because I read stories

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<v Speaker 1>about the ship.

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<v Speaker 4>And I can't even believe it.

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<v Speaker 1>But then responsible people say no, it's actually that's against

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<v Speaker 1>the establishment clause, and Texas is bound by the establishment clause.

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<v Speaker 4>What is going on?

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<v Speaker 9>Well, well, look, we've got a host of things that

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<v Speaker 9>are happening. I mean, first of all, you and I

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<v Speaker 9>would agree. I'm not going to put words in your mouth,

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<v Speaker 9>but I know you all have to know your belief

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<v Speaker 9>the Constitution mine too, that the First Amendment is sacker

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<v Speaker 9>sanct and we've got to be very careful to ensure

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<v Speaker 9>that we're not saying anything about what any individual can believe.

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<v Speaker 9>Correct your right to your religious expression and so forth.

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<v Speaker 9>But what we are saying is that two things. One,

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<v Speaker 9>you've got a political ideological movement that is very clearly

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<v Speaker 9>a part of the Islamist network, right the Muslim Brotherhood,

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<v Speaker 9>a lot of people that are trying to push that

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<v Speaker 9>not just as a religious doctrine or faith, but as

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<v Speaker 9>a political movement in ideology. We're seeing it unfold in Europe,

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<v Speaker 9>and it's happening here in the United States. We're seeing

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<v Speaker 9>it in Dearborn, We're seeing it a little bit with

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<v Speaker 9>Mom Donnie now and then that's going to get head

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<v Speaker 9>in that direction. And in Texas it's happening in very

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<v Speaker 9>real terms. There were two Sharia courts. There are Sharia

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<v Speaker 9>systems that were operating in the Dallas for Worth metroplex.

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<v Speaker 9>The governor have had to step in front of We're

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<v Speaker 9>obviously dealing with CARE and dealing with the Muslim Brotherhood.

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<v Speaker 9>The Governor's declared his terrorist organizations because of their deep

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<v Speaker 9>affiliation and you know this, remember the Holy found Holy

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<v Speaker 9>Land Foundation.

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<v Speaker 4>Terrorists. Yep.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, and they're the unindicted co conspirator from that that's

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<v Speaker 9>affiliated with CARE. All of these things are resulting in

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<v Speaker 9>things that you're now seeing with this epic city right

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<v Speaker 9>this compound, this four hunderd acres that they try to say, oh,

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<v Speaker 9>don't worry, it's fine, it's open to anybody, We're not

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<v Speaker 9>gonna have Sharia. But when you start looking at it,

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<v Speaker 9>that's not true. That's why the AG is going after

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<v Speaker 9>them on their deceptive trade practices and other things. We've

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<v Speaker 9>got to expose this. We're in the part of doing that.

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<v Speaker 9>We're going to defend the constitution, but we're going to

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<v Speaker 9>stand up against this political ideological effort to remake Texas

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<v Speaker 9>in Islama FI Texas.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Chip Roy.

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<v Speaker 1>When I first read about that, I thought to myself,

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<v Speaker 1>where is the United States Attorney because that's got to

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<v Speaker 1>violate the Federal fair housing hack. Is the a USA

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<v Speaker 1>or the USA is on your side down there?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 9>I believe so, and it'd be fair. I haven't had

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<v Speaker 9>a direct conversation with the US attorney in that district

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<v Speaker 9>up there. Funny enough, when I was a federal prosecutor,

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<v Speaker 9>I lived in McKenny, worked in Plano, worked in Sherman.

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<v Speaker 9>I was right up the road there from where this

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<v Speaker 9>is occurring. You know where epic city is. So we

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<v Speaker 9>need to have that conversation. But I'm certainly alerted. The

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<v Speaker 9>Department of Justice is looking into this. I know Harmeat

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<v Speaker 9>Dylan is looking into this. I know that they're all

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<v Speaker 9>very well aware of what's happening. And I know the

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<v Speaker 9>current Attorney General kN Paxon has been in conversations with

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<v Speaker 9>the Department of Justice. So I'll let them speak to it,

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<v Speaker 9>but I know they've been having those conversations.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, let's close with the specifics. When can people early vote?

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<v Speaker 1>When is the primary? And probably going to be a runoff,

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<v Speaker 1>you might get fifty percent plus one. It's possible you're

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<v Speaker 1>that popular, that you're that qualified. But when are people

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<v Speaker 1>voting early? When did they vote in the primary, and

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<v Speaker 1>when would a runoff be?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 9>Thanks, So the early voting started this past Tuesday. It

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<v Speaker 9>runs through this week end at the next week through

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<v Speaker 9>next Friday. The actual primary date is March third. You

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<v Speaker 9>know Chiproy dot com. You can follow me chip Roy

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<v Speaker 9>t x chi p r o i X on.

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<v Speaker 6>X slash Twitter.

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<v Speaker 9>If we have a runoff, it'll be in late May.

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<v Speaker 9>I think it's May twenty sixth or seventh, but anyway,

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<v Speaker 9>late May. We do want to try to win it outright,

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<v Speaker 9>I want to save the money. If we go to

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<v Speaker 9>a runoff, look, we'll go. We'll win it. You know,

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<v Speaker 9>if there is a runoff, it'll probably be against a

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<v Speaker 9>guy named mas Middleton who's running a lot of negative

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<v Speaker 9>ads on MELL. We'll push back with all due respect.

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<v Speaker 9>He's never been in a courtroom, he's never been a prosecutor,

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<v Speaker 9>he's never run the AG's office, he's never run a

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<v Speaker 9>law firm. And this is the biggest law firm in

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<v Speaker 9>the state of Texas and one of the most important

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<v Speaker 9>offices in the country. So we'll win that race, but

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<v Speaker 9>we're going to need some help and support and money

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<v Speaker 9>and get to the polls. And I appreciate it. And

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<v Speaker 9>you keep doing what you're doing. And like, like you said,

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<v Speaker 9>even when we occasionally disagree, Man, when I have a

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<v Speaker 9>conversation with you, iron sharpens iron. You help me think

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<v Speaker 9>through arguments I haven't necessarily thought through, you know, like

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<v Speaker 9>to Save America Act. Some of the issues you and

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<v Speaker 9>I have talked about, and we can I can come

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<v Speaker 9>back on and talk about those and defense and everything

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<v Speaker 9>going on with Ron and everything else. But appreciate you

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<v Speaker 9>and appreciate the time to be on the show today.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and first thing first, you got to win.

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<v Speaker 1>And we need chip Roy as the attorney general in

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<v Speaker 1>tech because we need great attorney generals, so defend the

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<v Speaker 1>constitution and know the constitution. That's chip Roy. Good to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to you, Congressman. Keep coming back. If you don't

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<v Speaker 1>get the fifty percent plus one, we'll talk again after

0:19:10.440 --> 0:19:13.359
<v Speaker 1>the runoff. But chiproy dot com is where you go

0:19:13.440 --> 0:19:15.920
<v Speaker 1>to find out more about my friend from Texas who's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a fantastic attorney general for the lone

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<v Speaker 1>star State. Stay tuned in America.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm Huglyck.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back America. I'm hue you a time for the

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<v Speaker 1>insur report. We missed Selena Zito last week. You can

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<v Speaker 1>follow Selena on ex at Zito. Selena read all of

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<v Speaker 1>her work at Selenazito dot com. Selena, we only have

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<v Speaker 1>six minutes and I want to cover two stories with you.

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<v Speaker 1>One is about The Derek from Oil City, Pennsylvania. I

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<v Speaker 1>know about Oil City because I read Daniel Jurgen's book

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<v Speaker 1>on John D. Rockefeller and mister Flagler, so tell us

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<v Speaker 1>about closing the Derek, but also missing the story between

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<v Speaker 1>the lines. I guess Ice is coming to Pittsburgh.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>Absolutely, so.

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<v Speaker 10>The Derek is one of the oldest newspapers in the country.

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<v Speaker 10>Or it was very important in covering the oil boom,

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<v Speaker 10>which happened in Oil City, Pennsylvania and also Pitthol City

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<v Speaker 10>in Titusville. This is where Drake's oil was discovered. It

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<v Speaker 10>was the first place where oil was pumped. And this

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<v Speaker 10>was significant because before that moment you couldn't oil couldn't

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<v Speaker 10>be produced to light buildings, to light homes, to light streets.

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<v Speaker 10>So the industrial Revolution really wasn't able to turn until

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<v Speaker 10>after that discovery, there was also wildcatters and it was the.

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<v Speaker 11>Birth of.

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<v Speaker 10>Standard oil, and there was really incredible investigations going on

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<v Speaker 10>at that time with the local reporters, and every morning

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<v Speaker 10>there would be a wire story that came out of

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<v Speaker 10>the day that every newspaper in the world carriage because

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<v Speaker 10>except the oil price every.

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<v Speaker 1>Morning it's a great column and it's a wonderful sendoff

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<v Speaker 1>to institution. But the times they are changing for media,

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<v Speaker 1>and they are changing to people like Selena covering stories

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<v Speaker 1>that nobody else does, including the crazy people tracking ice

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<v Speaker 1>across the country. Apparently they're coming to Pittsburgh. Selena tell

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<v Speaker 1>us about that.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, so they have.

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<v Speaker 10>These protests are you know, seemingly people think, oh they're

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<v Speaker 10>organic because I saw a local person there. They're not

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<v Speaker 10>really organic. But you know, one of the responsibilities as

0:21:39.600 --> 0:21:43.400
<v Speaker 10>a journalist that they learned very long ago was always

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<v Speaker 10>follow the money. And so when an organization is saying

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<v Speaker 10>they're behind something like more than likely means they are

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<v Speaker 10>sponsoring something, and which means you should see who is

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<v Speaker 10>trying to be disruptive, whether it is in Minneapolis or

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<v Speaker 10>in Pittsburgh, and why are they trying to cause this disruption,

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<v Speaker 10>and you know there will be well meaning ideological people

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<v Speaker 10>that will go along and want to be part of

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<v Speaker 10>this because of their ideological points of view. But a

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<v Speaker 10>lot of the people that are causing very aggressive tactical

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<v Speaker 10>protests that get out of hand are funded by foundations

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<v Speaker 10>whose names you would recognize and other groups who hnd

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<v Speaker 10>their money. But I think it's important that if you

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<v Speaker 10>want to get involved with something, you better understand who's

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<v Speaker 10>behind it, because then you have attached yourself to something

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<v Speaker 10>that you might not feel comfortable with.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the groups mentioned in your column is the

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<v Speaker 1>Sunrise Foundation, with which my audience is very familiar, but

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<v Speaker 1>there's also the Rockefeller Family Fund, the Wallace Global Fund.

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<v Speaker 1>I am mostly concerned about people from abroad, not those three,

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<v Speaker 1>but people i'm abroad pumping money into the United States,

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<v Speaker 1>including that crazy Swiss billionaire.

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<v Speaker 4>Do we think he's got anything to do with this stuff?

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<v Speaker 8>We don't know. It's very hidden.

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<v Speaker 10>However, that doesn't mean it's not the case, and they've

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<v Speaker 10>done a really good job of hiding their tracks. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 10>I mean unfortunately for them. It usually comes up either

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<v Speaker 10>through arrogance or through someone leaking the information but I

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<v Speaker 10>suspect we will find out quit soon.

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<v Speaker 1>Now the Pittsburgh protests, do you expect they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>be like the Minneapolis protests? The occasion for tragedy a

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<v Speaker 1>ridiculous A number of outsiders and a lot of national

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<v Speaker 1>media that the same thing going to happen again.

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<v Speaker 10>There was a lot of outsiders there. There are a

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<v Speaker 10>lot of troublemakers there. There are also just regular people

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<v Speaker 10>who that's what the side of the ideological curve they

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<v Speaker 10>are on. So far, they have not they have not

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<v Speaker 10>gotten out of hand. However, even they get concerned, the

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<v Speaker 10>locals get concerned that people will infiltrate their protests. They've

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<v Speaker 10>been pretty pedestrian. There hasn't been anything crazy that's happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Has Governor Shapiro or Senator Fetterman said anything to the

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<v Speaker 1>protesters about not interfering with law enforcement?

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<v Speaker 8>No, No, betterman has.

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<v Speaker 10>Betterman has been pretty striding about about not interfering and

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<v Speaker 10>if people are legal, they should follow the law.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, there's a big opportunity here for Josh Shapiro,

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<v Speaker 1>as a former attorney general, not to side with anyone,

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<v Speaker 1>but just to say the law must be observed. If

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<v Speaker 1>he does that, I know we'll read about it first

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<v Speaker 1>in a Selena Zito column. Follow her again on next

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<v Speaker 1>of her work at every newspaper in America. It appears

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<v Speaker 1>at Selenazito dot com. Thank you, Sulline. I'll be right

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<v Speaker 1>back in America. Stay too, working back of America. I'm you, Hewett.

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<v Speaker 1>Eleana Johnson is editor in chief of the Washington Free Beacon.

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<v Speaker 1>She's also a contributor to the commentary podcast almost every morning.

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<v Speaker 1>I am not listed this morning, Eleiana, because I was

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<v Speaker 1>here early taping an interview with our friend Dennis Prager

0:25:27.640 --> 0:25:29.320
<v Speaker 1>is back in the game with a brand new book,

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<v Speaker 1>If There Is No God? So that cheered me up.

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<v Speaker 1>But then I heard about the Pootomac, and I'm worried

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<v Speaker 1>about you.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't realize that there was sewage on.

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<v Speaker 1>The banks of the Potomac as far as you can see.

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<v Speaker 1>Stay away from the river, Eliana.

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<v Speaker 12>Oh, don't worry you. You can actually see it out

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<v Speaker 12>my back window here, not the not the Pooh, but

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<v Speaker 12>the Toomac. And I'm on the Virginia side of the river.

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<v Speaker 12>So I think we're okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I just wouldn't even go over the mem Bridge right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't want to have the ODI first experience, Ellianna.

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<v Speaker 1>I listen every day to commentary, and you folks are

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<v Speaker 1>working very hard not to obsess on Iran. But I

0:26:08.000 --> 0:26:11.080
<v Speaker 1>obsess on Iran every day. So I'm going to make

0:26:11.080 --> 0:26:13.320
<v Speaker 1>you obsess on Iran with me. How do you read

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<v Speaker 1>the tea leaves today?

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<v Speaker 12>You know you I heard the President put a ten

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<v Speaker 12>day time frame on this and say, well, we'll know

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<v Speaker 12>in the next ten days whether there will be military

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<v Speaker 12>action or whether these negotiations work out. I have to

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<v Speaker 12>say I don't put too much stock in this. As

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<v Speaker 12>you recall, the president put a two week timeframe on

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<v Speaker 12>negotiations and about forty eight hours later we had Operation

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<v Speaker 12>Midnight Hammer. But the best thing you I have read

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<v Speaker 12>on this is a piece of analysis by Walter Russell

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<v Speaker 12>Mead in the Wall Street Journal, who, just as a

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<v Speaker 12>student of Trump said, this is exactly where the president

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<v Speaker 12>wants to be, which is at the center of all

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<v Speaker 12>the news coverage, with the fate of a nation and

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<v Speaker 12>its leaders at his control. And he's at the center

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<v Speaker 12>of it all, and he can decide is he going

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<v Speaker 12>to try to take out the Malas. Is he going

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<v Speaker 12>to merely attack their nuclear program? Is he going to

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<v Speaker 12>agree to a bad deal and let the Malas live

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<v Speaker 12>another day? Is he going to do nothing at all?

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<v Speaker 12>This is where this is Trump's sweet spot and where

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<v Speaker 12>he likes to be. And I think why we are

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<v Speaker 12>seeing this drag out. Another potential reason is the potent

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<v Speaker 12>is the positioning of our military forces, which will allow

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<v Speaker 12>us to strike if the President wants, and I'm not

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<v Speaker 12>sure he's made up his mind, but also to defend

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<v Speaker 12>against any potential Iranian retaliation against us. And it does

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<v Speaker 12>seem like we aren't moving all of our potential you know,

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<v Speaker 12>many potential air defenses into the region.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, I want people to listen very closely to the

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<v Speaker 1>president of the boarded peace because he doesn't say after

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<v Speaker 1>ten days or so, and he doesn't say it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be ten days. Here's what he says, cut number.

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<v Speaker 3>Two guitar countries. Nobody could have signed. You would have

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<v Speaker 3>had that threat. Nobody could have had You couldn't had

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<v Speaker 3>peace in the Middle East. So now we may have

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<v Speaker 3>to take it a step further, or we may not.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe we're going to make a deal with You're going

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<v Speaker 3>to be you're gonna be finding out over the next

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<v Speaker 3>probably ten days.

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<v Speaker 1>So Aliana, he didn't say it's going to be ten

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<v Speaker 1>days before you find out.

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<v Speaker 4>He said, we're going to find out over the next

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<v Speaker 4>ten days. That could be now, could be now.

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<v Speaker 12>And Hugh, key to Trump's strategy and his approach to

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<v Speaker 12>world affairs is the preservation of the element of surprise,

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<v Speaker 12>and that is what you heard. He said, We'll see

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<v Speaker 12>how things play out. We may do something, we may not,

0:28:46.160 --> 0:28:51.680
<v Speaker 12>preserving optionality for himself. And the president likes to keep

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<v Speaker 12>both the news media and his adversaries on their toes

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<v Speaker 12>and prepared to be whacked upside the head.

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<v Speaker 1>So Eleiana, I'm going to ask Seth Mandel this later,

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<v Speaker 1>because Seth has an opinion of the vice president which

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<v Speaker 1>I don't share, that he's an isolationist.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you think he is? And on what is that

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<v Speaker 4>opinion based If you do, you know.

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<v Speaker 12>Hugh, I'm not sure we know fully what's in the

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<v Speaker 12>vice president's heart. I think right now we see him

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<v Speaker 12>out there supporting the president's policies, which is his job

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<v Speaker 12>as vice president, and he's been a pretty capable defender

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<v Speaker 12>of Trump's We saw that, particularly on the campaign trail,

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<v Speaker 12>and we see it when he tangles with the news media. Now,

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<v Speaker 12>if Vice President JD. Vance runs for president, we will

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<v Speaker 12>begin to see he'll have the chance to differentiate himself

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<v Speaker 12>from the president and to talk to the American people

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<v Speaker 12>about what his views on world affairs are and where

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<v Speaker 12>he stands, and have the chance to differentiate himself from

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<v Speaker 12>the president. But I don't think I'm in a position

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<v Speaker 12>to say what's in his heart and what his real

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<v Speaker 12>views are right now. It's simply not his job. And

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<v Speaker 12>he's been a really capable defender of this president.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've been interviewing him his book came out, and

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<v Speaker 1>then when he ran for Senate a number of times

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<v Speaker 1>I moderated to debate. He has just never struck me

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<v Speaker 1>as an isolationist or a so called restrainer. But he's

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<v Speaker 1>got this rap, right, I mean, you hear the rap

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<v Speaker 1>all the time. This reputation for being from the restrainer wing,

0:30:17.480 --> 0:30:20.960
<v Speaker 1>that is sort of overblown in my view. But if

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<v Speaker 1>I can be corrected by all me, what's the best

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<v Speaker 1>case that he's a restrainer, I don't know of any sure.

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<v Speaker 12>I think the case for that is that he's got

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<v Speaker 12>close friends and allies in that wing, including Tucker Carlson.

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<v Speaker 12>You know, he's a close friend and not only that,

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<v Speaker 12>but instrumental to his political rise and both in this

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<v Speaker 12>White House. You see it on the president too. Win

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<v Speaker 12>Folks in that wing of the party, you know, step

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<v Speaker 12>in it. The Vice president and the President are reluctant

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<v Speaker 12>to criticize, you know, they don't criticize people who like

0:30:56.920 --> 0:30:59.600
<v Speaker 12>them and who are a part of their coalition. And

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<v Speaker 12>what we will see that shake out when there's a

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<v Speaker 12>primary campaign and there are other Republicans. We're already starting

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<v Speaker 12>to see it with Ted Cruz and others hitting this admit,

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<v Speaker 12>hitting the Vice president and others. But we're really going

0:31:15.200 --> 0:31:17.280
<v Speaker 12>to see it ahead of twenty twenty eight when this

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<v Speaker 12>becomes an issue in a Republican primary.

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<v Speaker 1>Ellianna quick exit question. I think it will be a

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<v Speaker 1>multi candidate primary. I think they'll be at least three

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<v Speaker 1>others besides the Vice president. What do you think?

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<v Speaker 11>I totally agree with you.

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<v Speaker 12>I think it's going to be quite a big field

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<v Speaker 12>as the battle to define post trump Ism and to

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<v Speaker 12>succeed President Trump plays out, and likewise on the Democratic side,

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<v Speaker 12>I think it's going to be quite a big field.

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<v Speaker 12>One thing I will say, Hugh, and I think we

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<v Speaker 12>saw this in Munich with AOC and Gretchen Whitmer being

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<v Speaker 12>pressed on world affairs and stumbling quite visibly and embarrassingly.

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<v Speaker 12>I do think the democratic field, though it's vaunted and

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<v Speaker 12>puffed up by the by the legacy media, is quite overrated.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh do you remember You're not old enough, but you

0:32:06.640 --> 0:32:11.040
<v Speaker 1>might remember your dad's copy of commentary defining devanc down

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<v Speaker 1>by Patrick moynihan. Of course, the last week is defining

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<v Speaker 1>competence down. But they had to define it down for

0:32:17.760 --> 0:32:21.280
<v Speaker 1>Whitmer and Gavin and especially for AOC. Josh Holmes on

0:32:21.320 --> 0:32:23.760
<v Speaker 1>this show said, AOC, you would think she would know

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<v Speaker 1>about Spanish horses. Her last name is Cortes. After all,

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<v Speaker 1>Eleian always good to see you. Follow Eleana on exit,

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<v Speaker 1>Eleanna Y Johnson, follow me to the next segment on

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<v Speaker 1>The Hugh Hewitt Show, Morning Glory and even Grace America.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Hugh hewittt welcome please to be joined by the

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<v Speaker 1>United States Senator from Arkansas, Senator Tom Cotton, Chairman of

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<v Speaker 1>the Republican Conference and Chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee,

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<v Speaker 1>and a noted New England Patriots fan. It's taken him

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<v Speaker 1>a week to recover from that. Senator Cotton, welcome back.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you're feeling better.

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<v Speaker 13>Go back on with you now, Senator I don't.

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<v Speaker 4>Know if you're glad to tell me.

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<v Speaker 1>You remember the Gang of Eight that gets brief when

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<v Speaker 1>big things are about to happen. Are you allowed to

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<v Speaker 1>tell me if you've been brief yet?

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<v Speaker 13>Now, Hugh, you know we're not session this week, so

0:33:11.000 --> 0:33:13.280
<v Speaker 13>all of Congress is scattered all across the country, somewhere

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<v Speaker 13>around the world. I'm here in Arkansas. I just look

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<v Speaker 13>to Ourccount and Judge Association, not being a secure font

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<v Speaker 13>near a secure phone. I've just been enjoying the time

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<v Speaker 13>on campaign trail and with my fellow or Cansons. But

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<v Speaker 13>obviously we're staying in close touch with the President his

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<v Speaker 13>senior team and strongly supportive of what they're doing to

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<v Speaker 13>try to make a run or to eliminate the threat

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<v Speaker 13>from Iran once and for all.

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<v Speaker 4>Senta.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll come back to that, but I want to ask

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<v Speaker 1>you about the campaign we're on. In Little Rock, we

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<v Speaker 1>cover a lot of the state. Is anyone running against

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<v Speaker 1>you this time? Or are you getting another Ali Ali

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<v Speaker 1>in Free No?

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<v Speaker 13>No, Hugh, that's pretty rare to see, right, Yeah, I've

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<v Speaker 13>got a couple opponents of my primary, a couple of

0:33:50.480 --> 0:33:53.480
<v Speaker 13>Democrats vying for the general election. So the election is

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<v Speaker 13>just about ten days away now on March third. Early

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<v Speaker 13>voting it is underway. So if you're in the natural

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<v Speaker 13>you haven't voted yet, please out and vote somehow in

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<v Speaker 13>the next few days.

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<v Speaker 4>I concurring that please go and do that.

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<v Speaker 1>I just had Chip roy Ono is running in Texas

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<v Speaker 1>and they also have early voting. Now I'm not up

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<v Speaker 1>to day on the calendar. Let's turn to a ron.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me play for you what the President had to

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<v Speaker 1>say on his flight down to Georgia last hour. Senator Cotton,

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<v Speaker 1>can we play that Harley Day on.

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<v Speaker 10>A lot sad things will happen, you know a lot.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, it's really what will that. I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 4>talk you about that.

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<v Speaker 10>You're just look cool to get their fifth in US

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<v Speaker 10>mel expos.

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<v Speaker 3>We're gonna make a deal, or we're gonna get a

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<v Speaker 3>deal one way or the other.

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<v Speaker 6>Starting to wait out there.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not going to talk to you about that, but

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<v Speaker 3>we're either going to get a deal or it's going

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<v Speaker 3>to be unfortunate for them, then.

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<v Speaker 12>A deadline firm field.

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<v Speaker 8>I would think that would be enough time.

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<v Speaker 3>Ten to fifteen days pretty much maximum.

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<v Speaker 1>So pretty much maximum, But he doesn't say it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be ten or fifteen days. Senator Cotton, you're a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty expert listening to and translating the president.

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<v Speaker 13>What's he saying, well, Hughes, what he's been saying for

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<v Speaker 13>more than a decade now is that we cannot tolerate

0:35:10.680 --> 0:35:12.759
<v Speaker 13>a nuclear run. For that matter, we can't tolerate a

0:35:12.800 --> 0:35:15.880
<v Speaker 13>nuclear run that is armed with thousands of ballistic missiles

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<v Speaker 13>that can target not just our troops in the region,

0:35:18.640 --> 0:35:21.359
<v Speaker 13>but also our friends in the region and much of

0:35:21.360 --> 0:35:27.720
<v Speaker 13>the civilized world. And finally, we can't tolerate fanatical, revolutionary

0:35:27.840 --> 0:35:32.640
<v Speaker 13>theocratic regime that supports terrorists like Amos and has Belond

0:35:32.760 --> 0:35:35.360
<v Speaker 13>others that have the blood of thousands of Americans on

0:35:35.400 --> 0:35:39.040
<v Speaker 13>their hands. These are pretty reasonable requests by the United

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<v Speaker 13>States and by Israel that Iran no longer export terror

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<v Speaker 13>and violence and chaos. But of course they've been doing

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<v Speaker 13>that for forty seven years, so color me skeptical about

0:35:50.360 --> 0:35:52.759
<v Speaker 13>their willingness to change their spots at this late hour.

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<v Speaker 1>Sata, you know that dictators can capitulate Kadothee capitulated on

0:35:57.719 --> 0:36:02.960
<v Speaker 1>his WMD nukes chemical scots in two thousand and three,

0:36:03.040 --> 0:36:05.520
<v Speaker 1>two thousand and four. Is that what it would take

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<v Speaker 1>for us to hold off from attacking them?

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<v Speaker 13>Yes, you that there are clear models. As I've said

0:36:10.880 --> 0:36:13.359
<v Speaker 13>for more than a decade, if Iran could come in

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<v Speaker 13>from the cold and uh turn the page uh Wmark

0:36:19.040 --> 0:36:21.520
<v Speaker 13>Cadoppi and Libya is maybe the best example of that. Again,

0:36:22.800 --> 0:36:26.120
<v Speaker 13>repressive dictator who had the blood of lots of Americans.

0:36:25.760 --> 0:36:26.239
<v Speaker 4>On his hands.

0:36:26.239 --> 0:36:28.560
<v Speaker 13>In two thousand and three, he was scared straight and

0:36:28.600 --> 0:36:31.120
<v Speaker 13>he threw the doors open, and he told America, come in,

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<v Speaker 13>take everything, take my nuclear research, my biological and chemical research,

0:36:35.800 --> 0:36:39.120
<v Speaker 13>and weapons. I don't want to be next. And over

0:36:39.160 --> 0:36:42.359
<v Speaker 13>the next eight years he became in essence of day

0:36:42.400 --> 0:36:45.719
<v Speaker 13>facto ally and fill Barack Obama foolishly overthrew them and

0:36:46.280 --> 0:36:48.800
<v Speaker 13>opened up what's been the chaotic civil war ever since

0:36:48.800 --> 0:36:51.960
<v Speaker 13>and kind of uncorked the rest of Africa, creating migration crises.

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<v Speaker 13>But that's what genuine disarmament would look like. If Iran said, here,

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<v Speaker 13>take all of our nukes. By the way, we don't

0:36:59.320 --> 0:37:01.479
<v Speaker 13>need we don't need ballistic missiles that I can shoot

0:37:01.480 --> 0:37:05.360
<v Speaker 13>halfway around the world either and we promise, well, I'll

0:37:05.400 --> 0:37:07.640
<v Speaker 13>only cut off from ofs and has blah. We'll give

0:37:07.680 --> 0:37:09.200
<v Speaker 13>you the keys of the kingdom and tell you where

0:37:09.200 --> 0:37:11.120
<v Speaker 13>all the money's been going and where they're located, and

0:37:11.120 --> 0:37:12.800
<v Speaker 13>how you can get a hold of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Senator, yesterday the mender nick of ms now Ben Rhoades

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<v Speaker 1>posted that we're on the brink of war and there's

0:37:19.680 --> 0:37:23.359
<v Speaker 1>been no debate, no talk, no resolution in Congress. First

0:37:23.360 --> 0:37:25.880
<v Speaker 1>of all, I assume everybody in Congress is talking about

0:37:25.880 --> 0:37:28.759
<v Speaker 1>Iran to each other. And I also assume the AUMF

0:37:28.880 --> 0:37:32.200
<v Speaker 1>from two thousand and one is adequate to the day.

0:37:32.480 --> 0:37:34.759
<v Speaker 1>But I also assume the president's inherent Article two power

0:37:34.840 --> 0:37:35.680
<v Speaker 1>is adequate to the day.

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<v Speaker 13>What do you think, Well, yeah, I mean I think

0:37:38.400 --> 0:37:41.080
<v Speaker 13>the president, as commander in chief, has the authority, all

0:37:41.120 --> 0:37:44.040
<v Speaker 13>the authority he needs in the Constitution to take military

0:37:44.040 --> 0:37:48.280
<v Speaker 13>action to safeguard this country. It's rich that the Obama

0:37:48.320 --> 0:37:51.560
<v Speaker 13>crew would be talking about military action with any need

0:37:51.600 --> 0:37:54.920
<v Speaker 13>debate or vote in Congress. That's exactly what Barack Obama

0:37:55.000 --> 0:37:59.040
<v Speaker 13>did in twenty eleven when he toppled Umar Kadaffi. The

0:37:59.080 --> 0:38:02.200
<v Speaker 13>difference is tough. The Cadafi by that time was a

0:38:02.200 --> 0:38:05.600
<v Speaker 13>de facto ally for American Iran is the most virulent

0:38:05.680 --> 0:38:08.759
<v Speaker 13>anti American regime in the world. And that's the real

0:38:08.760 --> 0:38:12.400
<v Speaker 13>dividing line for the Obama crew and the Democrats is

0:38:12.440 --> 0:38:16.239
<v Speaker 13>they always want to attack and undermine our allies and

0:38:16.320 --> 0:38:19.120
<v Speaker 13>to appease and capitulate to our enemies.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, I also recall that during Team Obama era, they

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<v Speaker 1>did not follow They entered into a treaty with Iran,

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<v Speaker 1>a bad treaty, a bad deal. You wrote a letter

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<v Speaker 1>to the Iranian government time, it's not a treaty because

0:38:31.840 --> 0:38:35.319
<v Speaker 1>they didn't submit it to US. I believe the same

0:38:35.360 --> 0:38:37.520
<v Speaker 1>would apply to President Trump if they entered into a

0:38:37.560 --> 0:38:39.720
<v Speaker 1>deal with US. You ought to go to the Senate, right.

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<v Speaker 13>You know. I made two simple observations in that letter,

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<v Speaker 13>along with forty six other Republican senators. One, if you

0:38:49.040 --> 0:38:51.040
<v Speaker 13>don't have a treaty with the United States, you don't

0:38:51.080 --> 0:38:53.440
<v Speaker 13>have much because it can just be reversed by the

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<v Speaker 13>next president. And to remember, the United States Senate has

0:38:57.360 --> 0:39:00.000
<v Speaker 13>staggered six year terms, So what's Barack Obama left to say?

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<v Speaker 13>The Senate would be there much longer if the President

0:39:03.239 --> 0:39:07.960
<v Speaker 13>gets any kind of reasonable and forceal deal. Again, I'm

0:39:08.000 --> 0:39:11.399
<v Speaker 13>skeptical that he will, because the Ietolas have never been

0:39:11.440 --> 0:39:15.200
<v Speaker 13>willing to surrender their nuclear weapons or their missiles. Then yes,

0:39:15.280 --> 0:39:16.880
<v Speaker 13>we would want to review that in Congress.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, mister Rhodes wrote, I want to quote it to

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<v Speaker 1>no legal basis and no debate in Congress about what

0:39:24.000 --> 0:39:27.000
<v Speaker 1>could be a major war, with no clear sense of

0:39:27.040 --> 0:39:30.000
<v Speaker 1>what the objective is or what comes next. Let's focus

0:39:30.040 --> 0:39:33.719
<v Speaker 1>on the second part. I think that's incorrect. My clear

0:39:33.760 --> 0:39:37.400
<v Speaker 1>objective is getting the Ietolos away from power, transitioning to

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<v Speaker 1>any government that isn't theocratically crazy, and as millennial ambitions

0:39:43.920 --> 0:39:47.800
<v Speaker 1>to end the world. What's your end objective for Iran,

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<v Speaker 1>Senator Cotton, I.

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<v Speaker 13>Think that puts it well. As the President said, of course,

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<v Speaker 13>it will will be a better place if the regime

0:39:54.960 --> 0:39:58.080
<v Speaker 13>was changed in Iran. That doesn't mean that America is

0:39:58.120 --> 0:39:59.920
<v Speaker 13>going to do so militarily, or do so with a

0:40:00.080 --> 0:40:02.759
<v Speaker 13>hundred thousand troops. But who can doubt that the world

0:40:02.800 --> 0:40:06.080
<v Speaker 13>would be a better place, to include Iran itself, if

0:40:06.080 --> 0:40:11.240
<v Speaker 13>you didn't have craze theocratic dictators oppressing their own people

0:40:11.560 --> 0:40:15.960
<v Speaker 13>and radiating violence, chaos, and revolution across Iran's borders.

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<v Speaker 1>A Senator, do you have any idea who might be

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<v Speaker 1>the transitional leadership? The Crown Prince has been on this

0:40:21.920 --> 0:40:25.480
<v Speaker 1>program since last week talked, but he's an expat He's

0:40:25.480 --> 0:40:27.280
<v Speaker 1>been an exile for forty seven years.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think there are other forces within the regime

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<v Speaker 1>that could step forward as did in Venezuela. Former allies

0:40:36.840 --> 0:40:39.400
<v Speaker 1>of Maduro stepped forward as soon as the guy was gone.

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<v Speaker 13>Well, I'll put it this way. I would suspect, given

0:40:44.200 --> 0:40:47.320
<v Speaker 13>human nature, that there's more than a few senior leaders

0:40:47.360 --> 0:40:50.400
<v Speaker 13>in Tehran who look at what happened to Duro and

0:40:50.440 --> 0:40:52.799
<v Speaker 13>look at what's happened in that country since then, who

0:40:52.800 --> 0:40:57.160
<v Speaker 13>are thinking themselves. I'd like Elci Rodriguez's deal, not Nicholas's

0:40:57.200 --> 0:40:57.919
<v Speaker 13>Maduro's deal.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yea question, Senator.

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<v Speaker 4>In terms of.

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<v Speaker 1>The costs of this operation, it's extraordinary to forward stage

0:41:07.160 --> 0:41:09.600
<v Speaker 1>this number of people. And I just saw a picture

0:41:09.600 --> 0:41:11.600
<v Speaker 1>of the number of tankers we've got at the Sofia

0:41:11.680 --> 0:41:13.120
<v Speaker 1>airport in Bulgaria.

0:41:14.280 --> 0:41:16.399
<v Speaker 4>England United Kingdom will not let.

0:41:16.400 --> 0:41:19.960
<v Speaker 1>Us use their bases, but Bulgaria is letting us use

0:41:20.000 --> 0:41:23.200
<v Speaker 1>their basis. Does that call for some kind of rethinking

0:41:23.560 --> 0:41:25.640
<v Speaker 1>about who's our friend and who isn't.

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<v Speaker 13>Well, Hugh, I haven't seen that reports. I don't want

0:41:29.719 --> 0:41:31.560
<v Speaker 13>to comment on it, but if any one of our

0:41:31.600 --> 0:41:35.400
<v Speaker 13>allies is closing their airspace or closing off their bases,

0:41:35.680 --> 0:41:38.320
<v Speaker 13>let's just say I think it calls for a direct

0:41:38.360 --> 0:41:40.480
<v Speaker 13>and frank phone call from the president. If not a

0:41:40.680 --> 0:41:43.440
<v Speaker 13>direct and frank post on his social media accounts.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I hope we get that too. I cheated one

0:41:46.520 --> 0:41:49.359
<v Speaker 1>more question. Do we need a supplemental for defense? Given

0:41:49.360 --> 0:41:55.600
<v Speaker 1>the amount of expenditure that's going into this forward push.

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<v Speaker 13>We're very vulmid you, especially if approporations are delayed again.

0:41:57.080 --> 0:42:00.520
<v Speaker 13>You know, we've spent a large amount. That's a large

0:42:00.520 --> 0:42:03.880
<v Speaker 13>amount in the department last summer during or in the

0:42:03.880 --> 0:42:06.880
<v Speaker 13>Working Family Tax Cut Act, and we just increased in

0:42:06.960 --> 0:42:09.319
<v Speaker 13>the last yearday and your appropriation spending a little bit.

0:42:09.360 --> 0:42:12.040
<v Speaker 13>It still needs more, though to be determined, whether that's

0:42:12.080 --> 0:42:15.839
<v Speaker 13>in a short term supplemental or in the typical appropriations process.

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<v Speaker 4>Center.

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Cotton, thank you for joining us from the campaign

0:42:18.360 --> 0:42:22.000
<v Speaker 1>trailer in Arkansas. I always appreciate it, and I'll talk

0:42:22.040 --> 0:42:23.960
<v Speaker 1>to you again next week. Don't go anywhere in America.

0:42:23.960 --> 0:42:26.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm coming right back with Vic Mattis of the Washington

0:42:26.239 --> 0:42:30.000
<v Speaker 1>Free Beacon, and we've got more President Trump talking at

0:42:30.000 --> 0:42:32.680
<v Speaker 1>the Institute or at the boarded Piece today and what

0:42:32.760 --> 0:42:34.520
<v Speaker 1>he had to say, as well as Vice President Vance.

0:42:34.560 --> 0:42:37.279
<v Speaker 1>So there's a lot more ahead. Don't go anywhere. Stay

0:42:37.320 --> 0:42:40.480
<v Speaker 1>tuned to the Salem News Channel if you've missed anything.

0:42:40.800 --> 0:42:43.600
<v Speaker 1>We put on thost all of our interviews over at

0:42:43.680 --> 0:42:46.880
<v Speaker 1>my YouTube channel, Hugh Hewlett YouTube. But stay tuned the

0:42:46.880 --> 0:42:48.759
<v Speaker 1>Salem News Channel to watch them all, or do these

0:42:48.760 --> 0:42:51.400
<v Speaker 1>great radio stations that you're listening to, because I'll be

0:42:51.480 --> 0:42:54.319
<v Speaker 1>right back with a lot more on what's going on

0:42:54.400 --> 0:42:56.400
<v Speaker 1>in Iran in the latest development's got.

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<v Speaker 4>My eye on the web.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back America, little free bird for you, Vic Madis.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you know why I'm playing that?

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<v Speaker 14>You're thinking of the Super Bowl commercial for No blud

0:43:07.840 --> 0:43:08.799
<v Speaker 14>Wiser or No Now.

0:43:08.800 --> 0:43:11.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm playing a prominent role in the Olympics today, but

0:43:11.880 --> 0:43:17.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm not doing any spoilers. Okay, I think I heard something.

0:43:17.239 --> 0:43:20.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm setting the table. I'm setting the table, Vic Madison.

0:43:20.040 --> 0:43:22.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm mad at you, I know.

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<v Speaker 8>Do you know why I do?

0:43:26.280 --> 0:43:29.160
<v Speaker 14>Because I was talking about bad football teams and for

0:43:29.200 --> 0:43:32.680
<v Speaker 14>some insane, crazy reason that I cannot explain, I have

0:43:32.760 --> 0:43:35.799
<v Speaker 14>no excuse you. I said the Cleveland Browns. We were

0:43:35.800 --> 0:43:39.759
<v Speaker 14>talking about bad teams playing overseas because we're trying to

0:43:39.800 --> 0:43:42.239
<v Speaker 14>marry Catherine, and I were trying to explain about how

0:43:42.280 --> 0:43:47.080
<v Speaker 14>to gin up excitement beyond our borders for American football.

0:43:47.320 --> 0:43:49.759
<v Speaker 14>But every time they have some event taking place, either

0:43:49.840 --> 0:43:52.800
<v Speaker 14>in Germany or in Britain or somewhere else in the future,

0:43:53.400 --> 0:43:55.719
<v Speaker 14>it's always kind of two teams that do fairly bad.

0:43:56.239 --> 0:43:58.360
<v Speaker 4>And for some reason, I said.

0:43:58.280 --> 0:44:01.640
<v Speaker 14>Cleveland, and I know I should have known better. As

0:44:01.680 --> 0:44:03.880
<v Speaker 14>soon as I said it, I thought he was going

0:44:03.960 --> 0:44:05.879
<v Speaker 14>to hear this, and I know I should have said

0:44:05.920 --> 0:44:06.480
<v Speaker 14>the Jets.

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<v Speaker 4>I did hear that. But that's not the reason.

0:44:09.800 --> 0:44:13.000
<v Speaker 1>That's why I always ask an open ended questions. That's

0:44:13.040 --> 0:44:15.839
<v Speaker 1>because people interrogate themselves and they fall and I feel

0:44:15.840 --> 0:44:18.920
<v Speaker 1>like Peter Falk right now, it's Colombo. That's not the

0:44:19.000 --> 0:44:21.960
<v Speaker 1>reason I didn't mind me about the Browns. The reason

0:44:22.000 --> 0:44:24.440
<v Speaker 1>is from the latest episode of Getting Hammered.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, no, I don't remember.

0:44:29.719 --> 0:44:33.279
<v Speaker 4>Why you're mad. Okay, go ahead, you take that.

0:44:33.440 --> 0:44:38.360
<v Speaker 1>On Fat Tuesday, and you talked extensively about Chinese food

0:44:38.400 --> 0:44:41.160
<v Speaker 1>and how great it is and Peking gourmet and how

0:44:41.160 --> 0:44:43.960
<v Speaker 1>he does that duck. You went on forever about what

0:44:44.000 --> 0:44:46.520
<v Speaker 1>you'd like to eat at Chinese restaurant, and then it

0:44:46.640 --> 0:44:48.640
<v Speaker 1>drops on ash Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 4>Vic Maddis, I know.

0:44:52.520 --> 0:44:54.640
<v Speaker 11>It's unfair for the rest.

0:44:54.440 --> 0:44:56.600
<v Speaker 14>Of us who have to fast and that fast thing

0:44:56.680 --> 0:44:59.920
<v Speaker 14>involves you know, it's it's a very peculiar thing, Hugh,

0:45:00.040 --> 0:45:02.560
<v Speaker 14>as you know as a fellow Catholic, because it's like,

0:45:03.239 --> 0:45:06.640
<v Speaker 14>you know, two small meals that don't equal the larger meal,

0:45:06.719 --> 0:45:09.160
<v Speaker 14>but if your larger meal happens to be a Chinese buffet,

0:45:09.200 --> 0:45:11.319
<v Speaker 14>you could pretty much eat anything you want. So that

0:45:11.520 --> 0:45:13.480
<v Speaker 14>was unfair for most of us because all we're doing

0:45:13.560 --> 0:45:15.560
<v Speaker 14>is thinking about food the one day we feel like

0:45:15.560 --> 0:45:16.359
<v Speaker 14>we can't have it.

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<v Speaker 1>So which you guilty is charged You talked about it

0:45:19.120 --> 0:45:21.600
<v Speaker 1>on Tuesday, so you could run out to your local

0:45:21.719 --> 0:45:25.920
<v Speaker 1>Chinese deli and grab as much kung pow whatever that

0:45:25.960 --> 0:45:28.040
<v Speaker 1>you wanted, and then the rest of us are heard

0:45:28.120 --> 0:45:31.160
<v Speaker 1>on Wednesday. Now I want to go to doppelganger. You

0:45:31.200 --> 0:45:34.120
<v Speaker 1>were talking about being mistaken in front of people. I

0:45:34.120 --> 0:45:38.000
<v Speaker 1>didn't recognize the name of the person with the blockhead

0:45:38.000 --> 0:45:39.680
<v Speaker 1>that you don't like being compared to.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, who is that?

0:45:41.040 --> 0:45:41.239
<v Speaker 8>Yes?

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<v Speaker 5>That is the professional golf for kJ CHOI.

0:45:45.719 --> 0:45:48.439
<v Speaker 14>He's a very good golfer, so that we actually don't

0:45:48.480 --> 0:45:52.000
<v Speaker 14>have in common. But when my good friend pointed that out,

0:45:52.080 --> 0:45:53.400
<v Speaker 14>you know, the first thing I think.

0:45:53.320 --> 0:45:54.359
<v Speaker 4>Is do we all look the same?

0:45:54.400 --> 0:45:56.000
<v Speaker 14>And then I went to check him out and I said,

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<v Speaker 14>my goodness, the skeletal structure his head size is eerily,

0:46:02.440 --> 0:46:05.839
<v Speaker 14>eerily similar. And I said, okay, that was fair, all right?

0:46:05.880 --> 0:46:09.320
<v Speaker 1>So I came up with for Mary Catherine Audrey Hepburn,

0:46:09.640 --> 0:46:11.320
<v Speaker 1>and I think it's a very good match.

0:46:12.120 --> 0:46:14.200
<v Speaker 4>And I've gott an agreement from people.

0:46:14.520 --> 0:46:17.040
<v Speaker 1>But I have two doppel gangers, at least i've been

0:46:17.040 --> 0:46:20.719
<v Speaker 1>accused of to. One is the former lieutenant governor of Missouri.

0:46:20.760 --> 0:46:23.040
<v Speaker 1>And if you're watching on the Salem News channel, here's

0:46:23.040 --> 0:46:23.720
<v Speaker 1>Peter Kinder.

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<v Speaker 14>What do you think, vic, Yeah, that looks like a

0:46:27.840 --> 0:46:28.480
<v Speaker 14>twit of yours.

0:46:28.520 --> 0:46:30.480
<v Speaker 4>Definitely then perhaps older.

0:46:30.640 --> 0:46:33.799
<v Speaker 1>At the two thousand and seven American League Championship game,

0:46:33.840 --> 0:46:37.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm there with my brother Rob ganarian Patrick Wilson, and

0:46:37.520 --> 0:46:41.440
<v Speaker 1>a fan stumbles by and says you you you're Stephen

0:46:41.560 --> 0:46:44.480
<v Speaker 1>King And this is what Stephen King looks like.

0:46:44.640 --> 0:46:45.840
<v Speaker 4>And I was not happy.

0:46:48.120 --> 0:46:48.319
<v Speaker 8>No.

0:46:48.400 --> 0:46:51.040
<v Speaker 14>I mean maybe they were thinking about your writing somehow

0:46:51.440 --> 0:46:54.160
<v Speaker 14>that they just thought, you know, there's a lot about

0:46:54.200 --> 0:46:57.120
<v Speaker 14>the creativity that flows through you. You know, there's some

0:46:57.160 --> 0:46:58.920
<v Speaker 14>similarity just in the eyes.

0:46:59.000 --> 0:47:00.040
<v Speaker 5>But that's about.

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<v Speaker 1>It, all right, Let's go to the key issue of

0:47:02.160 --> 0:47:08.480
<v Speaker 1>the day, the Pootomac. I have been following this from Afar, like, really, Afar,

0:47:08.680 --> 0:47:10.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad I left DC last week.

0:47:11.000 --> 0:47:15.200
<v Speaker 4>Where can you smell it? Well, this is the thing.

0:47:15.520 --> 0:47:18.720
<v Speaker 14>This happened in late January, just before the big storm

0:47:18.880 --> 0:47:21.719
<v Speaker 14>was to happen, So that is not an excuse for

0:47:21.840 --> 0:47:24.840
<v Speaker 14>why there hadn't been better coverage, at least on the

0:47:24.880 --> 0:47:29.360
<v Speaker 14>local level. But then when that happened, all anybody wanted

0:47:29.400 --> 0:47:32.680
<v Speaker 14>to talk about was the snow Creek. And somehow it's

0:47:32.760 --> 0:47:36.200
<v Speaker 14>like we almost wanted to convince ourself that it was.

0:47:36.160 --> 0:47:38.520
<v Speaker 15>So cold that the sewage spell would just be frozen

0:47:38.560 --> 0:47:39.000
<v Speaker 15>in place.

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<v Speaker 4>That is not true at all.

0:47:40.360 --> 0:47:42.200
<v Speaker 14>It comes out of the pipes and it's just spilling

0:47:42.280 --> 0:47:44.920
<v Speaker 14>on top of the surface of what normally would be

0:47:44.960 --> 0:47:45.360
<v Speaker 14>the water.

0:47:45.520 --> 0:47:46.840
<v Speaker 4>So it was even worse.

0:47:46.880 --> 0:47:49.960
<v Speaker 14>I mean, you've seen the video and footage of this

0:47:50.080 --> 0:47:54.560
<v Speaker 14>now with the toilet paper. It's absolutely disgusting. We are

0:47:54.640 --> 0:47:57.920
<v Speaker 14>down here, we don't smell it yet. This isn't the summertime.

0:47:57.960 --> 0:48:01.040
<v Speaker 14>We just got an email from Arlington County assuring us

0:48:01.400 --> 0:48:04.880
<v Speaker 14>our drinking water is safe because it comes from a

0:48:04.920 --> 0:48:06.279
<v Speaker 14>source further upstream.

0:48:06.360 --> 0:48:08.000
<v Speaker 4>They say that said.

0:48:08.400 --> 0:48:12.120
<v Speaker 14>Everybody around us is saying do not go into the water. Now,

0:48:12.160 --> 0:48:15.080
<v Speaker 14>that's impossible. Right now, I look out my office window

0:48:15.400 --> 0:48:19.239
<v Speaker 14>and the Potomac was still largely frozen. But you oftentimes

0:48:19.320 --> 0:48:21.879
<v Speaker 14>see in the late spring, well into the summer and fall,

0:48:22.160 --> 0:48:24.759
<v Speaker 14>people love to go kayaking, people love to do all

0:48:24.800 --> 0:48:28.480
<v Speaker 14>sorts of water sports. And even before the spill, Hue,

0:48:28.520 --> 0:48:31.080
<v Speaker 14>we were told, you know, don't fall in the water,

0:48:31.160 --> 0:48:33.680
<v Speaker 14>and definitely don't, you know, consume any of the water.

0:48:33.920 --> 0:48:37.719
<v Speaker 14>But now it's just downright deadly and that's disappointing. In particular, Hue,

0:48:38.360 --> 0:48:40.719
<v Speaker 14>where the spill happened is Cabin John. I don't know

0:48:40.760 --> 0:48:42.960
<v Speaker 14>if you're familiar with that area. It's near the American

0:48:43.040 --> 0:48:47.279
<v Speaker 14>Legion Bridge, Carter Rock. The Glen Echo Park is a beautiful,

0:48:47.480 --> 0:48:50.719
<v Speaker 14>beautiful area in Maryland where a lot of people can

0:48:50.760 --> 0:48:54.560
<v Speaker 14>go hiking. There are a lot of nature trails, not anymore.

0:48:54.440 --> 0:48:57.960
<v Speaker 4>So you know, accountability is needed. Have you ever read

0:48:58.360 --> 0:49:03.000
<v Speaker 4>Steven Johnson's The Map? By chance? I have no.

0:49:03.440 --> 0:49:06.240
<v Speaker 1>The Ghost Map is about the eighteen fifty one cholera

0:49:06.400 --> 0:49:11.239
<v Speaker 1>epidemic in London. And the cholera epidemic began when there

0:49:11.400 --> 0:49:15.839
<v Speaker 1>was a mixture of human waste with well water in

0:49:15.880 --> 0:49:20.200
<v Speaker 1>London and it spread throughout the city through the pipes.

0:49:20.560 --> 0:49:24.040
<v Speaker 1>So I'm not buying Arlington, don't. Are they sure there

0:49:24.120 --> 0:49:27.360
<v Speaker 1>is no way for that Cholera travels by human waste?

0:49:27.400 --> 0:49:29.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean, why is that lot London?

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<v Speaker 14>Yeah, Well, the good thing is that even if they're

0:49:35.320 --> 0:49:37.319
<v Speaker 14>wrong about it, I'm pretty sure they'll still all have

0:49:37.400 --> 0:49:41.279
<v Speaker 14>their jobs because, as you know, you know, there's no

0:49:41.320 --> 0:49:43.520
<v Speaker 14>account But it's all Democrats here, I mean, and they

0:49:43.600 --> 0:49:45.319
<v Speaker 14>keep on getting re elected year after year.

0:49:45.400 --> 0:49:47.480
<v Speaker 4>There's no other alternative. I wish there were.

0:49:47.880 --> 0:49:50.080
<v Speaker 14>And you're talking about what happened up in cabbage On,

0:49:50.239 --> 0:49:53.279
<v Speaker 14>that's up in Maryland and so I mean, yeah, there's

0:49:53.320 --> 0:49:56.919
<v Speaker 14>the DC Water Authority that's involved. The EPA of course

0:49:57.000 --> 0:49:59.800
<v Speaker 14>now should be obviously has to be involved. And Leezelden

0:49:59.880 --> 0:50:02.239
<v Speaker 14>is only now getting into it, but this is a

0:50:02.320 --> 0:50:03.200
<v Speaker 14>very serious spelling and.

0:50:04.680 --> 0:50:06.240
<v Speaker 4>His first month on the job.

0:50:06.080 --> 0:50:09.239
<v Speaker 1>He had the Pacific Palisades with all the burned up

0:50:10.239 --> 0:50:12.839
<v Speaker 1>batteries that had to be disposed of. Now a year

0:50:12.880 --> 0:50:15.920
<v Speaker 1>in he gets to Pootomac and I don't know that

0:50:15.960 --> 0:50:18.560
<v Speaker 1>he signed up for a job that meant clearing up

0:50:18.600 --> 0:50:21.799
<v Speaker 1>all this bleep, but he did. That's his job now, right,

0:50:21.840 --> 0:50:23.720
<v Speaker 1>it's inner jurisdiction on it's federal.

0:50:24.920 --> 0:50:29.480
<v Speaker 14>Yeah, that's right, And I'm pretty sure that reporters will

0:50:29.520 --> 0:50:32.680
<v Speaker 14>be definitely on him for that. Where the reporters were

0:50:32.719 --> 0:50:35.880
<v Speaker 14>earlier is a good question. Again, we talk about the

0:50:35.880 --> 0:50:38.480
<v Speaker 14>need for better metro reporting. There are some local sources

0:50:38.480 --> 0:50:41.120
<v Speaker 14>obviously that we're doing a good job, but a lot

0:50:41.160 --> 0:50:43.120
<v Speaker 14>of it is, you know, I mean, there doesn't seem

0:50:43.120 --> 0:50:45.399
<v Speaker 14>to be a sense of urgency. Certainly when this first

0:50:45.440 --> 0:50:48.480
<v Speaker 14>thing happened. You had local news radio, as you know,

0:50:48.920 --> 0:50:51.600
<v Speaker 14>doing this, but none of the major papers were really

0:50:51.600 --> 0:50:56.319
<v Speaker 14>spending that much time on what happened, I think, but I.

0:50:56.320 --> 0:50:58.400
<v Speaker 1>Mean all over it, but I mean covering it closely,

0:50:58.600 --> 0:51:02.000
<v Speaker 1>very quickly. Kudos on the Free Beacon review by the

0:51:02.080 --> 0:51:04.520
<v Speaker 1>latest atheist to try and get on the atheist train.

0:51:04.960 --> 0:51:07.239
<v Speaker 1>I thought the review was one of the most devastating

0:51:07.280 --> 0:51:08.960
<v Speaker 1>I've ever read who wrote that, the guy.

0:51:08.800 --> 0:51:10.520
<v Speaker 4>From the Ethics and Public Policy.

0:51:11.520 --> 0:51:15.839
<v Speaker 14>Yeah, that is Carl Truman, a Protestant theologian. But it

0:51:15.920 --> 0:51:18.439
<v Speaker 14>was my good friend and you know him as well,

0:51:18.480 --> 0:51:20.200
<v Speaker 14>George Wigel, who said, you got to get.

0:51:20.080 --> 0:51:22.160
<v Speaker 15>Carl to review this book. It's going to be something else.

0:51:22.760 --> 0:51:25.279
<v Speaker 15>And he did not disappoint when you torture book right

0:51:25.360 --> 0:51:27.960
<v Speaker 15>down to the blurbs. I mean he even took down

0:51:28.000 --> 0:51:31.640
<v Speaker 15>the blurbs. That's a thorough construction of a book.

0:51:32.120 --> 0:51:33.239
<v Speaker 4>Always good to talk to.

0:51:33.320 --> 0:51:37.879
<v Speaker 3>Vic Madison, guitar coutries. Nobody could have signed you would

0:51:37.880 --> 0:51:41.120
<v Speaker 3>have had that threat. Nobody could have had. You couldn't

0:51:41.120 --> 0:51:43.520
<v Speaker 3>had peace in the Middle East. So now we may

0:51:43.560 --> 0:51:45.120
<v Speaker 3>have to take it a step further, or we may

0:51:45.400 --> 0:51:47.800
<v Speaker 3>maybe we're gonna make a deal. You're gonna be finding

0:51:47.840 --> 0:51:51.080
<v Speaker 3>out over the next probably ten days.

0:51:51.160 --> 0:51:54.640
<v Speaker 1>Probably ten days, Josh Crosser joined Vanitor in chief of

0:51:54.719 --> 0:52:02.600
<v Speaker 1>Jewish Insider. How do you interpret probably ten days, Josh.

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<v Speaker 16>Well, I have the same analysis that we've been talking

0:52:03.800 --> 0:52:06.200
<v Speaker 16>about for the last several weeks, which is that Trump

0:52:06.400 --> 0:52:10.480
<v Speaker 16>would like to make a good deal with getting Iran

0:52:10.520 --> 0:52:15.160
<v Speaker 16>to give up its ballistic missiles, not continue building its

0:52:15.280 --> 0:52:19.560
<v Speaker 16>nuclear facilities and preventing all of its rogue activities in

0:52:19.560 --> 0:52:24.640
<v Speaker 16>the Middle East. Iran has not the diplomatic meetings in Geneva,

0:52:24.800 --> 0:52:27.520
<v Speaker 16>but nowhere, Iran has not put anything on the table.

0:52:28.080 --> 0:52:30.640
<v Speaker 16>The Wall Street Journal just came out with a breaking

0:52:30.680 --> 0:52:33.920
<v Speaker 16>news report that Trump seems to be thinking about a

0:52:34.000 --> 0:52:37.439
<v Speaker 16>very limited strike against Iran as a means to try

0:52:37.440 --> 0:52:39.160
<v Speaker 16>to get them back to the bargaining table and to

0:52:39.200 --> 0:52:42.839
<v Speaker 16>actually make concessions to show that he's serious about a

0:52:42.880 --> 0:52:46.759
<v Speaker 16>more extended military engagement. But my read of Trump is

0:52:46.760 --> 0:52:49.520
<v Speaker 16>that he would really like to make a deal. The Iranians,

0:52:49.719 --> 0:52:54.000
<v Speaker 16>as has been their ideology for decades under the IATOLA,

0:52:54.080 --> 0:52:56.840
<v Speaker 16>don't believe in giving up their nuclear program and their

0:52:56.920 --> 0:53:01.279
<v Speaker 16>rogue regimes and their roague activities in the region. That's

0:53:01.280 --> 0:53:03.279
<v Speaker 16>going to really force Trump's hands. So we'll see where

0:53:03.280 --> 0:53:05.480
<v Speaker 16>things go. I was I think I said on the

0:53:05.480 --> 0:53:07.839
<v Speaker 16>show cue that I was sort of skeptical that Trump

0:53:07.880 --> 0:53:09.279
<v Speaker 16>would go ahead with military action.

0:53:09.560 --> 0:53:11.719
<v Speaker 8>I don't think he wants to. I think he preferred diplomacy.

0:53:11.800 --> 0:53:14.920
<v Speaker 16>But given Iranian and transigence, we may actually see the

0:53:14.920 --> 0:53:16.600
<v Speaker 16>propect of military now.

0:53:16.680 --> 0:53:19.040
<v Speaker 1>Now, Josh, I've got the Wall Street Journal story in

0:53:19.040 --> 0:53:23.520
<v Speaker 1>front of me on the desktop. Trump Way's initial limited

0:53:23.560 --> 0:53:27.360
<v Speaker 1>strike to force Iran into a nuclear deal it begins.

0:53:27.440 --> 0:53:30.400
<v Speaker 1>President Trump is weighing an initial military strike on Iran

0:53:30.520 --> 0:53:33.560
<v Speaker 1>to force it to meet his demands for a nuclear deal,

0:53:33.920 --> 0:53:36.400
<v Speaker 1>a first step that would be designed to pressure Tehran

0:53:36.480 --> 0:53:38.560
<v Speaker 1>to an agreement, but fall short of a full scale

0:53:38.600 --> 0:53:42.360
<v Speaker 1>attack that could inspire a major retaliation. The opening assault,

0:53:42.360 --> 0:53:44.880
<v Speaker 1>which if authorized, could come within days, would target a

0:53:44.880 --> 0:53:47.840
<v Speaker 1>few military or government sites. People familiar with the matters

0:53:47.840 --> 0:53:51.280
<v Speaker 1>said if Iran still refused to comply with Trump's directive

0:53:51.520 --> 0:53:53.880
<v Speaker 1>to end its nuclear in Richmond, the US would respond

0:53:53.920 --> 0:53:57.600
<v Speaker 1>with a broad campaign against regime facility, potentially aimed at

0:53:57.600 --> 0:54:03.840
<v Speaker 1>toppling the Tehran regime. First of all, that's really ambiguous sourcing. Uh,

0:54:04.120 --> 0:54:07.520
<v Speaker 1>it's not senior age to the president, well informed official.

0:54:08.000 --> 0:54:13.040
<v Speaker 1>It's people familiar. That's like the worst sourcing, isn't it, Josh?

0:54:14.000 --> 0:54:16.920
<v Speaker 16>It is and it's I was amused earlier in the

0:54:16.960 --> 0:54:19.680
<v Speaker 16>week when there was an initial readout from an unnamed

0:54:19.800 --> 0:54:23.680
<v Speaker 16>US official of the talks with the Iranians in Geneva

0:54:23.760 --> 0:54:25.879
<v Speaker 16>that that they seem to go well and it turned

0:54:25.880 --> 0:54:28.720
<v Speaker 16>out they were a disaster. That the Iranians didn't agreet anything.

0:54:28.800 --> 0:54:33.160
<v Speaker 16>So I always am cautious about leaping to any great

0:54:33.200 --> 0:54:36.080
<v Speaker 16>conclusions based on one unnamed source, especially in this White House,

0:54:36.120 --> 0:54:38.480
<v Speaker 16>there's a lot of different views on foreign policy, so

0:54:38.520 --> 0:54:41.640
<v Speaker 16>I think that's extra significant in this case.

0:54:41.680 --> 0:54:44.319
<v Speaker 4>But look, I do think given and you've you've laid

0:54:44.320 --> 0:54:44.680
<v Speaker 4>it out on.

0:54:44.680 --> 0:54:48.480
<v Speaker 16>The show so with such detail, Q, But the scope

0:54:48.520 --> 0:54:51.680
<v Speaker 16>of the build up over the last month in the

0:54:51.800 --> 0:54:54.920
<v Speaker 16>in the Middle East, in the Gulf, suggesting you know

0:54:54.960 --> 0:54:57.120
<v Speaker 16>this is that Trump is not playing around and he

0:54:57.239 --> 0:55:00.680
<v Speaker 16>is very committed to at least the option of military strike.

0:55:00.719 --> 0:55:04.080
<v Speaker 1>Again, Josh, again having I'm not crediting this report, but

0:55:04.200 --> 0:55:06.719
<v Speaker 1>let's assume for the sake of argument that there's.

0:55:06.520 --> 0:55:07.799
<v Speaker 4>Some truth to it.

0:55:07.800 --> 0:55:10.000
<v Speaker 1>It would be a very bad idea to do a

0:55:10.040 --> 0:55:13.239
<v Speaker 1>limited strike and give Iron the opportunity to let go

0:55:13.360 --> 0:55:17.000
<v Speaker 1>with a fuseilot, as opposed to a debilitating major first

0:55:17.000 --> 0:55:20.000
<v Speaker 1>strike to take out all their missile capacity that we could.

0:55:20.480 --> 0:55:23.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm not a general, I have never served

0:55:23.520 --> 0:55:26.759
<v Speaker 1>in the military. I read spy thrillers and I talked

0:55:26.800 --> 0:55:28.880
<v Speaker 1>to generals, but that just seemed to me to be

0:55:29.000 --> 0:55:30.200
<v Speaker 1>a really bad choice.

0:55:30.320 --> 0:55:33.680
<v Speaker 4>What do you think, Well, I.

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<v Speaker 16>Think perhaps the worst option would be that you kind

0:55:35.920 --> 0:55:39.359
<v Speaker 16>of have this symbolic pin prick that's staged, go back

0:55:39.400 --> 0:55:42.319
<v Speaker 16>to the parkeating table, and hope to get anything.

0:55:42.040 --> 0:55:43.279
<v Speaker 4>More out of there.

0:55:43.480 --> 0:55:44.920
<v Speaker 16>I don't when I say stage, I don't mean that

0:55:44.960 --> 0:55:47.080
<v Speaker 16>it's it's not you know that they they're asking for this.

0:55:47.200 --> 0:55:49.919
<v Speaker 16>But you know the fact is that there's a lot

0:55:49.920 --> 0:55:54.440
<v Speaker 16>of symbolic, you know, activity that that may not do

0:55:54.560 --> 0:55:58.840
<v Speaker 16>much at all to degrade or Adian military capabilities, do

0:55:59.040 --> 0:56:01.880
<v Speaker 16>very little to really the message about the US being serious.

0:56:02.280 --> 0:56:05.120
<v Speaker 16>So yeah, I mean, I do think the worry is

0:56:05.120 --> 0:56:07.359
<v Speaker 16>that Trump doesn't want to go to war and he's

0:56:07.360 --> 0:56:10.440
<v Speaker 16>trying to figure out, you know, a way out, and

0:56:11.080 --> 0:56:13.920
<v Speaker 16>Rand is not giving that. They're not conceding anything. So

0:56:15.120 --> 0:56:16.839
<v Speaker 16>you know, on one hand, it looks like we are

0:56:16.840 --> 0:56:18.960
<v Speaker 16>prepared to go to war with Iran. On the other hand,

0:56:18.960 --> 0:56:22.000
<v Speaker 16>it does seem like there's some indecisiveness from the president

0:56:22.040 --> 0:56:22.919
<v Speaker 16>and that's not a good sign.

0:56:23.000 --> 0:56:25.600
<v Speaker 1>Well, again, I question whether or not he's just not

0:56:26.239 --> 0:56:29.600
<v Speaker 1>doing the strategic confusion dance again, but I do think

0:56:29.840 --> 0:56:34.320
<v Speaker 1>a pinprick or a symbolic strike is the worst idea

0:56:34.480 --> 0:56:38.600
<v Speaker 1>I've seen because of what Hamani has said and as

0:56:38.600 --> 0:56:41.560
<v Speaker 1>generals have said, which is massive retaliation for any kind

0:56:41.600 --> 0:56:44.520
<v Speaker 1>of strike. That means Israel gets every ballistic missile they

0:56:44.520 --> 0:56:46.440
<v Speaker 1>can get off in round one, doesn't it.

0:56:47.280 --> 0:56:50.200
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, well, that's certainly could could be the case.

0:56:50.239 --> 0:56:51.560
<v Speaker 8>And I think if this.

0:56:51.600 --> 0:56:53.440
<v Speaker 16>Is not something you don't play with the military for

0:56:53.520 --> 0:56:56.879
<v Speaker 16>symbolic strikes. You go and have a mission, whether it's

0:56:57.040 --> 0:56:59.960
<v Speaker 16>to take out you know, nuclear facilities as we do

0:57:00.080 --> 0:57:02.400
<v Speaker 16>in the Twelve Day War, whether it's to you know,

0:57:02.400 --> 0:57:04.040
<v Speaker 16>get rid of some of their ballistic missiles that they've

0:57:04.040 --> 0:57:07.000
<v Speaker 16>been building up and getting from other other road countries,

0:57:07.239 --> 0:57:10.520
<v Speaker 16>whether it's to you know, attack the IRGC because they've

0:57:10.520 --> 0:57:14.759
<v Speaker 16>been slaughtering Iranian civilians like this guy. And frankly, I

0:57:14.760 --> 0:57:16.840
<v Speaker 16>think the president would be well advised to speak in

0:57:16.840 --> 0:57:19.520
<v Speaker 16>front of the country to actually lay out the mission

0:57:19.560 --> 0:57:22.200
<v Speaker 16>and the goals and why we're building up our military

0:57:22.600 --> 0:57:24.680
<v Speaker 16>uh uh.

0:57:24.200 --> 0:57:25.880
<v Speaker 8>Personnel in the in the Gulf.

0:57:26.280 --> 0:57:29.280
<v Speaker 16>But you know, I think that's that's that's the big

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<v Speaker 16>There's a lot of there's some Look, Trump has been good,

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<v Speaker 16>as you said to you, about kind of being being

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<v Speaker 16>coy about his intentions.

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<v Speaker 4>Sometimes that's a good thing.

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<v Speaker 16>But I do think that the clarity and in the

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<v Speaker 16>mission and what the goal is. It would be helpful to,

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<v Speaker 16>at least from the American.

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<v Speaker 1>Public's point of view, well, we might get that in

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<v Speaker 1>the State of the Union. We also might get an

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<v Speaker 1>announcement during the State of the Union that the bombing

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<v Speaker 1>of Iran is underway. With this president, you can't tell.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm curious how you read the Israeli leaks, which are

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<v Speaker 1>not quite big, you know, six feet from the shelter,

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<v Speaker 1>but getting there.

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<v Speaker 16>Yeah, well, we had a report in Yesterday's Jewish Insider

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<v Speaker 16>that they don't expect an imminage military strike this weekend

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<v Speaker 16>the Israelis, So you know that that was one sense

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<v Speaker 16>about the timetable. Look Prime Minister notting Now who made

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<v Speaker 16>a very short visit to DC to meet with President Trump.

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<v Speaker 16>They didn't have any press briefings after. They didn't talk

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<v Speaker 16>to to the to the press or do do the

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<v Speaker 16>traditional kind of Trump comment uh after Trump, you know,

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<v Speaker 16>conversations with the media after.

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<v Speaker 8>The after the meeting.

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<v Speaker 4>So, I mean, I think that means they must have

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<v Speaker 4>had some very.

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<v Speaker 16>Serious talks about, you know, gaming out what would happen

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<v Speaker 16>if the US does that does indeed strike I ran

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<v Speaker 16>And then there's reporting that you know Israelis would also

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<v Speaker 16>be involved in such a military action.

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<v Speaker 4>There's a reporting.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever you want to read, you can go and find

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<v Speaker 1>and read actually somewhere because nobody knows nothing except Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump and maybe Prime Minister and Josh cross Our follow

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<v Speaker 1>him on actual Josh cross Hower follow me in the

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<v Speaker 1>next segment of Today is you would give a show

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<v Speaker 1>stay tuned, Good Morning Glory and even grash America. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>h it is Thursday. It is ragning like Madden California.

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<v Speaker 1>But all eyes aren't on California. They're on Iran, including

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<v Speaker 1>those of former United States Senator Jim Talon, who's on

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<v Speaker 1>the Reagan Institute's Security Board. Jim Talent, Welcome back, Senator.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to begin by asking you about Ben Rhoades,

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<v Speaker 1>former Deputy National Security advisor to President Obama, posted yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>quote no legal basis and no debate in Congress about

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<v Speaker 1>what could be a major war with no clear sense

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<v Speaker 1>of what the objective is or what comes next? End

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<v Speaker 1>quote and post.

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<v Speaker 8>What do you think, Well, let's take the objectives first.

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<v Speaker 17>You and I anticipated you asking about Ben Rhoads, and

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<v Speaker 17>so I went and printed off page five of the

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<v Speaker 17>National Security Strategy. You know, if this goes on much longer,

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<v Speaker 17>I'm going to end up reading all of page five

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<v Speaker 17>at one point or another, because I read part of

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<v Speaker 17>it after the Venezuelan operation. Here it is, by the way,

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<v Speaker 17>and you notice the bold part, you know, which our

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<v Speaker 17>audience can't read yet, I'll read it to you.

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<v Speaker 8>That's about the Middle East.

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<v Speaker 17>It says we want to prevent an adversarial power from

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<v Speaker 17>dominating the Middle East. It's oil and gas supplies and

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<v Speaker 17>the choke points through which they pass while avoiding the

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<v Speaker 17>forever wars that bogged us down in that region at

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<v Speaker 17>great costs.

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<v Speaker 8>So what is the adversarial power?

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<v Speaker 17>Who is it that wants to dominate the Middle East

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<v Speaker 17>shove their version of sharia law down everybody's throat to

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<v Speaker 17>include most especially the Gulf States, and has threatened to

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<v Speaker 17>and would love to shut down the choke points for

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<v Speaker 17>oil and gas in the Middle East.

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<v Speaker 8>Who is that?

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<v Speaker 3>You?

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<v Speaker 17>It's Iran, right, And so what we're doing is preventing

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<v Speaker 17>that adversarial power, you know, from doing that. And the

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<v Speaker 17>operational goals, I think they're pretty clear. The president is

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<v Speaker 17>going for a big win, which is what he does.

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<v Speaker 17>And a big win would be somebody wearing a military

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<v Speaker 17>app in Iran, either now or after an attack, deciding

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<v Speaker 17>that they'd like to survive and maybe keep some of

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<v Speaker 17>the loot they've stolen from the country, so they push

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<v Speaker 17>home any aside and decide to play ball with us.

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<v Speaker 8>That would be a very big win.

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<v Speaker 17>But at minimum, if that doesn't happen, because the Mullas

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<v Speaker 17>are not going to make a deal. And if you

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<v Speaker 17>don't think Donald Trump knows that, you don't know Donald Trump,

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<v Speaker 17>he does not miss the obvious in a negotiation.

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<v Speaker 4>So okay, let me be hoping.

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<v Speaker 1>An hour ago, the Wall Street Journal posted a story

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<v Speaker 1>Trump weighs initial limited strike to force Iran into a

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<v Speaker 1>nuclear deal. It then reads, in the first two grabs,

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<v Speaker 1>President Trump is weighing an initial limited military strike on

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<v Speaker 1>Iran to force it to meet his demands for a

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<v Speaker 1>nuclear deal, a first step that would be designed to

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<v Speaker 1>pressure Tehran into an agreement, but fall short of a

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<v Speaker 1>full scale attack that could inspire a major retaliation. The

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<v Speaker 1>opening assault, which if authorized, could come within days, would

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<v Speaker 1>target a few millionlitary or government sites. People familiar with

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<v Speaker 1>the matter said, if Iran still refused to comply with

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<v Speaker 1>Trump's directive to end its nuclear enrichment. The US would

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<v Speaker 1>respond with a broad campaign against the regime, potentially aimed

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<v Speaker 1>at toppling the Tehran regime. These are sources familiar with

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<v Speaker 1>the situation. I think that's nonsense, Jim Tallon, because it

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<v Speaker 1>would give Iran a first strike on Israel and our allies.

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<v Speaker 8>I think it's highly unlikely.

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<v Speaker 17>I think when he hits, when we hit, and I

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<v Speaker 17>think we're going to end up doing it, because I

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<v Speaker 17>think the Molas are going to stay in control and

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<v Speaker 17>they're not going to do this deal. Although there's a chance,

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<v Speaker 17>I mean, Neil Ferguson thinks. On Dan Senor's show, he

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<v Speaker 17>indicated he thought there was a chance, and he had

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<v Speaker 17>some pretty good arguments for it.

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<v Speaker 8>No, I think we're going to hit him much harder

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<v Speaker 8>than that.

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<v Speaker 17>It is not only possible, but likely that we will

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<v Speaker 17>reserve some targets as secondary deterrence. And you've talked about

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<v Speaker 17>carc Island. I mean, but we can hit them very

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<v Speaker 17>hard while still retaining targets that will secondarily deter them.

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<v Speaker 8>And as I.

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<v Speaker 17>Said, I think the goal is either to get a

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<v Speaker 17>deal now that's not likely, to get a deal with

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<v Speaker 17>new leadership after a strike that's much more likely to

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<v Speaker 17>have the protesters come out again because they're encouraged by

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<v Speaker 17>after a strike, because they're encouraged, and because the regime

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<v Speaker 17>is weakened further, and overthrow the regime.

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<v Speaker 8>That's possible. And if we don't get.

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<v Speaker 17>Any of that, the minimum we're going to get out

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<v Speaker 17>of this is destroying their ballistic missile arsenal, which means

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<v Speaker 17>they will have lost two of their three tools of power.

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<v Speaker 17>They've lost the nuclear program and they've lost the ballistic missiles.

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<v Speaker 17>And because they're economies in the tank because of our sanctions,

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<v Speaker 17>they can't support the proxies anymore. So we're going to

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<v Speaker 17>get The odds are very high. We're going to get

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<v Speaker 17>a solid win out of this. The question is how

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<v Speaker 17>big a win? And if you read the art of

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<v Speaker 17>the deal, you you'll see this is exactly how Trump

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<v Speaker 17>set up all the deals he talks about there. I'm

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<v Speaker 17>on the chapter now with the Atlantic City Casino. It's fascinating.

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<v Speaker 1>Well again, developers are deal people and they know what

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<v Speaker 1>they're doing on deals. Let me talk to you about

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<v Speaker 1>the deal with the United Kingdom. Harley, if you would

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<v Speaker 1>put up for our viewers on the Salem News Channel

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<v Speaker 1>and for Senator Talleng. This is a picture of Sofia

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<v Speaker 1>International Airport in Bulgaria with a half dozen KC one

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<v Speaker 1>thirty five's parked on the ramp last night. Now, Sofia's

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<v Speaker 1>in Bulgaria, which was on the wrong team during the

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<v Speaker 1>Cold War. So, when you and I were young men

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<v Speaker 1>in Washington, d C. The idea that Bulgaria would be

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<v Speaker 1>our partner, but the United Kingdom would be telling us

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<v Speaker 1>we can't use our air bases for this was unthinkable.

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<v Speaker 1>But that is the report out of the United Kingdom.

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<v Speaker 1>Jim Tallan, how do you think that sits with the President?

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<v Speaker 8>Well, I have a well.

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<v Speaker 17>You know how that sat with the and so do

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<v Speaker 17>I Look, i have a soft spot for the Brits,

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<v Speaker 17>and I'm hopeful. I think they're they're they're going through

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<v Speaker 17>a lot of internal turmoil. I hope they get to

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<v Speaker 17>the right place in the next couple of years. But

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<v Speaker 17>this is an example of exactly what our people have

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<v Speaker 17>been complaining about. I mean, first the President, then Vance,

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<v Speaker 17>then then the Speaker Johnson in his own way before

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<v Speaker 17>the House of Commons, and now Marco Rubio. Okay, we

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<v Speaker 17>have a foreign policy realist administration insofar as you can

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<v Speaker 17>capture Donald Trump's doctrine. And by the way, that's what

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<v Speaker 17>I think Vice President Vance is. Realists believe, and I

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<v Speaker 17>think they're right that the international order can only be

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<v Speaker 17>anchored and be stable if it's anchored by nation states

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<v Speaker 17>who nurture tools of power so they can achieve their

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<v Speaker 17>own uh strategic goals, but also so they can work

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<v Speaker 17>with with nations who have common interests and goals to

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<v Speaker 17>achieve the common goals. That assumes the other nations have

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<v Speaker 17>capabilities that can be actually of assistance. So the Europeans

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<v Speaker 17>have disarmed, They've driven their economies in the tank, and

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<v Speaker 17>now that I'm.

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<v Speaker 8>Going to let us use their air fields.

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<v Speaker 17>This is exactly why we're complaining about them as allies.

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<v Speaker 8>They need to hold up their end.

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<v Speaker 4>They have to hold up their end. They hadn't been.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the demnimous I mean just overflight right, that

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't cost them anything. It's our bases. They are a

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<v Speaker 1>NATO ally. I don't understand it. I'm hoping the reports

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<v Speaker 1>are wrong, but they are many. I want to circle

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<v Speaker 1>back and conclude where we began. The Obama Bros, the

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<v Speaker 1>Pod Bros, the kiddies who surrounded President Obama with Unicorn

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<v Speaker 1>and bubbles thinking during his eight years, why are they

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<v Speaker 1>so upset that Iran is teetering on the brink of collapse.

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<v Speaker 17>Well, because they had a foreign policy that was crazy

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<v Speaker 17>for the Middle East. Their policy was to try and

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<v Speaker 17>stabilize the Middle East around a partnership with iron which

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<v Speaker 17>was crazy. I mean that there was no way that

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<v Speaker 17>the Islamic Republic, while it was controlled by the Molas,

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<v Speaker 17>was ever going to try to do anything other than

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<v Speaker 17>dominate the region. And it's choke points to the detriment

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<v Speaker 17>of the United States. Oh and you I want to

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<v Speaker 17>address Rhodes's claimed that there has been no debate and

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<v Speaker 17>this needs congressional authorization, and you mentioned it before. I

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<v Speaker 17>believe if I'm correct, that we that we had an

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<v Speaker 17>eight month bombing campaign in Libya.

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<v Speaker 8>Correct, we flew out.

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<v Speaker 17>If I recall twenty five thousand sorties, including seven thousand

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<v Speaker 17>against Libyan forces, We're not going to have an eight

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<v Speaker 17>month bombing campaign here.

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<v Speaker 1>No authorization from Congress, well within the president, nothing for

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<v Speaker 1>the county.

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<v Speaker 17>As a matter of fact, you the House voted against

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<v Speaker 17>authorizing and it was a bipartisan vote. Now that did

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<v Speaker 17>not pass the Senate. So I mean there was there

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<v Speaker 17>was considerable Congressional opposition there, but the president had the

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<v Speaker 17>authority under the counts under his Article to authority, and

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<v Speaker 17>he did it. And so does Trump here. I mean,

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<v Speaker 17>if Congress wants to weigh in, it'll happen when there's

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<v Speaker 17>a supplemental and you talked about that with Tom Cotton.

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<v Speaker 17>I think they're probably going to need one. I think

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<v Speaker 17>Tom said that, and I think it's going to pass,

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<v Speaker 17>and that's going to be Congressional approval.

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<v Speaker 1>That it's always the purse strings. Congress always has. You

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<v Speaker 1>remember the Nicaragua controversy with Reagan, they cut off the

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<v Speaker 1>money to the conscious.

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<v Speaker 4>They can do this again. But I'm going to.

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<v Speaker 17>And and and with with after Nixon had gone. But

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<v Speaker 17>on Vietnam as a practical matter, you that's where this

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<v Speaker 17>tension works itself out to between Article one and Article two.

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<v Speaker 17>If the military commitment is so sustained that the president

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<v Speaker 17>has to go to Congress for more money for it,

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<v Speaker 17>that's where Congress weighs in, and if it disapproves, it

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<v Speaker 17>does not provide the money and the military operation stops well.

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<v Speaker 8>Instead.

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<v Speaker 1>Senator Jim Tallon from the Board of the Reagan Institute

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<v Speaker 1>for Peace through Strength next week, page six of the

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<v Speaker 1>National Security Strategy. Thank you, Senator Talent. I'll be right

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<v Speaker 1>back with Seth Mandel. Stay to in America.

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<v Speaker 4>Welcome back in America. I'm Hugh Hewitt.

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<v Speaker 1>Seth Mandel joins me, senior writer for commentary magazine. Seth,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to read to you the beginning of his

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<v Speaker 1>story from the wires this afternoon. The United Kingdom has

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<v Speaker 1>refused to grant US forces permission to use British military

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<v Speaker 1>bases for potential strikes against Iran. The Times of London

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<v Speaker 1>reported on Thursday. The decision is heightened tensions with Washington,

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<v Speaker 1>prompted criticism President Donald Trump. Under long standing agreements, American

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<v Speaker 1>aircraft could operate from RIF Fairford in Gloucestershire, home to

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<v Speaker 1>US have any bombers and the joint US UK base

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<v Speaker 1>on Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean, only with prior

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<v Speaker 1>approval from the British government. However, London had not granted

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<v Speaker 1>that permission for any hypothetical answer against Iran, citing concerns

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<v Speaker 1>at participating in a strike without clear legal justification could

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<v Speaker 1>breach international law.

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<v Speaker 4>What do you think?

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<v Speaker 5>I think it's a bluff.

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<v Speaker 18>I think it's a way of saying whether they you know,

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<v Speaker 18>somebody told a reporter that they haven't yet granted that permission,

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<v Speaker 18>and you know that's something that when things are in

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<v Speaker 18>place and ready to.

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<v Speaker 5>Be moved there and ready to go.

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<v Speaker 18>That they'll get I just don't think that Britain is

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<v Speaker 18>going to stand in the way of what is essentially

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<v Speaker 18>meant to help free the Iranian people from there from

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<v Speaker 18>the government that is mowing them down in the streets.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, the Europeans all.

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<v Speaker 18>Talk about human rights and caring about human rights and

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<v Speaker 18>civilians and all that, and this this is this in

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<v Speaker 18>Iran is nothing but civilians. That's the only people dying

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<v Speaker 18>are civilians. The only people fighting are the regime.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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<v Speaker 18>And so this is just an easy one if you

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<v Speaker 18>if you believe anything, if these guys believe anything that

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<v Speaker 18>they say, they can't they can't plausibly stand in the

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<v Speaker 18>way of of what Trump is trying to do.

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<v Speaker 1>If they do, in fact denyse of our basis, what

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<v Speaker 1>is the consequence of that.

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<v Speaker 5>That's really up to the administration. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 18>I mean, the administration will uh, you know, tends to

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<v Speaker 18>use tariffs and things like that as as as punishment.

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<v Speaker 5>But I don't. I don't really.

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<v Speaker 18>It's just hard for me to believe that diplomatically, Britain

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<v Speaker 18>would be the reason that these uh, these innocent protesters

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<v Speaker 18>rising up for democracy in Iran would be left at

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<v Speaker 18>the mercy of their killers. So I just don't. I

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<v Speaker 18>don't think it's really going to be necessary.

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<v Speaker 5>But I don't know.

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<v Speaker 18>It's a good question about the what the you know,

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<v Speaker 18>retaliatory measures would be.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't right, Let me show you a picture of the

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<v Speaker 1>Sofia airfield in Bulgaria, where a half dozen of our

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<v Speaker 1>biggest cargo ships are located. You know, I was a

1:12:21.920 --> 1:12:24.680
<v Speaker 1>kid in the Reagan White House forty years ago. The

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<v Speaker 1>idea that we would be able to use the Bulgarian

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<v Speaker 1>airplanes air A reports but not the United Kingdom is

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<v Speaker 1>astonishing to me. That was the age of Thatcher. I

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<v Speaker 1>just can't believe it. Not if they want NATO to SURVIVEE.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, no, I That's why I say I don't. I

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<v Speaker 5>don't believe it either.

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<v Speaker 18>I just you know, there's been a lot of talk

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<v Speaker 18>about the Transatlantic Alliance and whether Trump puts that in danger.

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<v Speaker 18>But you know, when when Iran lobbied a couple hundred

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<v Speaker 18>missiles and drones at Israel.

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<v Speaker 5>The British were there.

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<v Speaker 18>To mobilize and try to protect the skies, and so

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<v Speaker 18>were the Jordanians. By the way, So these coalitions that

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<v Speaker 18>Trump puts together involve Americans, Europeans, and Arab states, and

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<v Speaker 18>I just don't see I mean, I can see why

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<v Speaker 18>Arab states would want to not be obviously playing front

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<v Speaker 18>and set of roles in this with Iran, like I

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<v Speaker 18>can understand why the Saudis are trying to sort of

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<v Speaker 18>walk a tightrope here. But in the end, this either

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<v Speaker 18>happens or it doesn't. And if it happens, it's because

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<v Speaker 18>Trump put together roughly the same coalition that he did

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<v Speaker 18>last time to do it.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, Seth Mandeu.

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<v Speaker 1>The Wall Street Journal published sixty five minutes ago a

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<v Speaker 1>story by Alexander Ward Good reporter Trump weighs initial limited

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<v Speaker 1>strike to force Iran into a nuclear deal, and Alexander

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<v Speaker 1>cited sources familiar with the situation, and it says he's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of hit them with a small strike to force

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<v Speaker 1>them to the table on a big deal. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's inane. I think that would give Iran the opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>to launch a massive first strike on Israel and our bases.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't believe it. Do you believe it?

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<v Speaker 8>No?

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<v Speaker 18>But I also think that Trump and the Israelis are

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<v Speaker 18>preparing for for any scenario. You know, Trump has been

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<v Speaker 18>probably more hawkish with regard to Hesbola in South Lebanon

1:14:26.439 --> 1:14:28.600
<v Speaker 18>than the Israelis have been. In recent months, there have

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<v Speaker 18>been several credible reports that he's been kind of pushing

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<v Speaker 18>the Israelis to make sure that Hesbela doesn't stick its

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<v Speaker 18>head up above ground and doesn't get rolling again. Obviously

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<v Speaker 18>there's going to be smuggling and other things that are

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<v Speaker 18>going to get Hesbola weapons and money, but you know.

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<v Speaker 5>And some capabilities.

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<v Speaker 18>But he's been telling the Israelis don't don't let the

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<v Speaker 18>weeds overgo the garden. And the Israelis, I think, have

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<v Speaker 18>been more hesitant than that to strike because they don't

1:14:57.800 --> 1:15:00.720
<v Speaker 18>want another war in Lebanon. They don't to open up

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<v Speaker 18>another front or be the ones to open up another front.

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<v Speaker 18>But I think that this has been Trump's way of saying,

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<v Speaker 18>let's and the whole adminstruation that's saying, let's take care

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<v Speaker 18>of every contingency. Don't give the Iranians a chance to

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<v Speaker 18>hit back from anywhere. Don't give them options for a

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<v Speaker 18>first strike, don't give them options for retaliation, keep them down,

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<v Speaker 18>keep the boot on their neck until we're ready to

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<v Speaker 18>decide exactly what we want to do. And when that happens,

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<v Speaker 18>it won't be for fear of retaliation. And he has

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<v Speaker 18>not shown a willingness to allow Iran and its proxies

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<v Speaker 18>the space to even be able to carry out an

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<v Speaker 18>initial first strike to surprise us or.

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<v Speaker 5>Something like that. I mean, I think he's really got

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<v Speaker 5>them tied up.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you're right, but I think the one way

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<v Speaker 1>to forfeit any advantage that has been built up is

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<v Speaker 1>to give them a chance to go first. And Israel

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<v Speaker 1>does not have a history of that. Last question, Cheth,

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't heard commentary this morning, but yesterday you seem

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<v Speaker 1>to be persuaded that the vice president is a restrainer,

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<v Speaker 1>Neil isolationist.

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<v Speaker 4>I am not. What do you base that.

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<v Speaker 18>On, Well, I base it on the speech that he

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<v Speaker 18>gave where he enunciated this most clearly was a last year.

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<v Speaker 18>The year before, he gave a speech where he talked

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<v Speaker 18>about The speech is mostly remembered for the fact that

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<v Speaker 18>Vance explained why he's a supporter of Israel and why

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<v Speaker 18>Israel is a good ally.

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<v Speaker 5>That's usually where you hear the relevance of.

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<v Speaker 18>The speech, because it was one of the few times

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<v Speaker 18>that you know, Vans made clear that yes, you know,

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<v Speaker 18>we think Israel is an ally and you know, and

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<v Speaker 18>they're valuable and they provide us. But in that speech

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<v Speaker 18>was he he had laid out the idea that there

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<v Speaker 18>really can't be that weak nations are far you know,

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<v Speaker 18>that they take more than they get, and that you know,

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<v Speaker 18>our alliances should be with strong states like Israel. You know,

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<v Speaker 18>in his opinion, in Israel, you obviously get the intelligence,

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<v Speaker 18>you get the improvement on aircraft, you get all sorts

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<v Speaker 18>of of of weapons capabilities when the two work together.

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<v Speaker 18>What you get from Israel is very very clear. It's

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<v Speaker 18>a it's a strong army. It's his first world power

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<v Speaker 18>in a crucial region, and so you know that. But

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<v Speaker 18>he does not seem to feel that way. And when

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<v Speaker 18>he made the speech, he was pretty clear that he

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<v Speaker 18>didn't feel that way about say.

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<v Speaker 5>Ukraine and others.

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<v Speaker 18>So I think he tends to, you know, not want

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<v Speaker 18>to feel like he's carrying anybody along. And that's what

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<v Speaker 18>makes me you know, gives me the impression that he's

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<v Speaker 18>more of a restrainer than otherwise.

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<v Speaker 4>I think.

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<v Speaker 1>It, but I will and I'm glad you have something

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<v Speaker 1>specific in mind, because I think there's there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of mythology around Vance that is never evident.

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<v Speaker 4>Its out to me in.

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<v Speaker 1>Dozens of interviews with him over a dozen years. Seth

1:18:02.439 --> 1:18:04.840
<v Speaker 1>Mandel can be followed at Seth Mandel and you can

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<v Speaker 1>hear them every single day on the commentary podcast, which

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<v Speaker 1>I recommend strongly.

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<v Speaker 4>To you and stay tuned.

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<v Speaker 1>Dan Rundy from CSI as his next still talking about

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<v Speaker 4>Looking back in America as war looms.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought I would talk to an expert on post

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<v Speaker 1>war issues. Daniel Rundy is a senior advisor at the

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<v Speaker 1>Center for Security, Strategic and International Studies CSIS in Washington, DC.

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<v Speaker 1>Also the author of The American Imperative, which I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's imperative for Americans to read on the brink of war. Daniel, First,

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<v Speaker 1>your assessment of what the President had to say today

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<v Speaker 1>and running up to today, is war inevitable?

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<v Speaker 19>I mean, obviously President Trump has been trying to establish

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<v Speaker 19>that we have peace. He's been trying to have negotiations.

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<v Speaker 19>But if our counterparts are not willing to participate in

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<v Speaker 19>negotiations in a serious way, we're looking at some sort

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<v Speaker 19>of a conflict.

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<v Speaker 1>So Whyett is reporting today that there's a coordinated plan

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<v Speaker 1>to destroy all the missiles, to do damage to the

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<v Speaker 1>command and control structures throughout Iran. It sounds like regime

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<v Speaker 1>collapse to me? Is that how you would guess it

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<v Speaker 1>looks to you?

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<v Speaker 19>Yeah, I would call it something like regime collapse. This

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<v Speaker 19>is not regime change by invasion. Rather, it's deterrence. It's

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<v Speaker 19>nuclear rollback. It's creating conditions for Iranian led change while

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<v Speaker 19>avoiding a regional war. I think it's really important for

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<v Speaker 19>your listeners to understand of the prize that we're talking about.

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<v Speaker 19>Imagine a world where there were a Mullah free world

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<v Speaker 19>in Iran, where we had some sort of a different

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<v Speaker 19>kind of either the current government decided that they were

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<v Speaker 19>going to go on the wagon in terms of financing

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<v Speaker 19>proxies and investing in nuclear weapons and decided to change

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<v Speaker 19>their behavior, which would be a great outcome. And I

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<v Speaker 19>want to talk about that in terms of what the

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<v Speaker 19>best day after scenario looks like, but also like or

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<v Speaker 19>there was some sort of a freedom there was some

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<v Speaker 19>sort of.

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<v Speaker 11>A freedom uprising.

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<v Speaker 19>There's been clearly a lot of people very very unhappy

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<v Speaker 19>with the regime. You have all these young people who

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<v Speaker 19>are very unhappy. What's happened to the young people's outrageous.

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<v Speaker 19>President Trump has talked about this, But I think in

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<v Speaker 19>some ways the best day after scenario, you is a

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<v Speaker 19>boring day after scenario. Fighting stops fast ports, open oil flows,

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<v Speaker 19>power and water stays on. Proxies like Hezbollah or Harmas

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<v Speaker 19>are restrained, and Iran looks for an off ramp and

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<v Speaker 19>looks to kind of restart negotiations. Because in some ways

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<v Speaker 19>you need to think about this as an opportunity a

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<v Speaker 19>to defang them, but also to force them back to

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<v Speaker 19>the negotiating table in a real way as opposed to

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<v Speaker 19>in a fake way.

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<v Speaker 1>Dan, do you think that that would mean that the

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<v Speaker 1>Idolahamini and the senior molocracy would have to be out

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<v Speaker 1>of the picture because they're fanatics. I don't think they

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<v Speaker 1>can see a way to actually sitting down and repairing

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<v Speaker 1>their country with the world. Do you think they are

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<v Speaker 1>reasonable in any way?

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<v Speaker 11>No, I mean, these are crazy people. I mean, as

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<v Speaker 11>you know.

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<v Speaker 19>And one of the things I want to say is,

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<v Speaker 19>thank you you for what you've done with your radio

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<v Speaker 19>show about consistently talking about Iran. As you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 19>a listener, but I think you've been really it's been

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<v Speaker 19>important to educate the American people and listeners worldwide about

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<v Speaker 19>what an evil regime this is. Ending this regime and

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<v Speaker 19>ending the nature of this regime would be a really

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<v Speaker 19>great thing for the world.

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<v Speaker 11>So my hope is is there's a small.

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<v Speaker 19>Probability that they could They could say, oh, we're going

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<v Speaker 19>to stop doing this, We're going to go on the bat,

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<v Speaker 19>we're going to stop being bad guys. But it's really

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<v Speaker 19>hard to get these folks to change their strikes stripes.

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<v Speaker 19>So I think ultimately it's about defanging them, and it's

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<v Speaker 19>about hoping to pave the way for the Iranians to

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<v Speaker 19>bring about a different kind of a government on their own.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's finish this segment and talk next segment about what

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<v Speaker 1>is most likely, in my view, a period of chaos

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<v Speaker 1>followed by the emergence of a quote strong man, someone

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<v Speaker 1>to bring authority to the streets, monopoly of violence, all

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<v Speaker 1>that sort of stuff. What is the But it's not

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<v Speaker 1>an iotola, it's not a fanatic, it's not a theocrat.

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<v Speaker 1>If we get to that, what's the best case scenario

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<v Speaker 1>for ran thereafter? And we can take a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>minutes here and then eight minutes after the break.

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<v Speaker 19>Okay, I would say a couple of things. One is,

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<v Speaker 19>you could have some kind of regime fracturing. That's a

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<v Speaker 19>fancy term for the folks that have been running the

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<v Speaker 19>country split up and say I'd rather cut a deal

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<v Speaker 19>with the Americans than rather die or you know, or

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<v Speaker 19>have something really bad happen. So you could have some

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<v Speaker 19>part of the military force a coup that's possible. And

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<v Speaker 19>then so you could have something along those lines. There's

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<v Speaker 19>obviously been talk about having the Shaw comeback.

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<v Speaker 11>I think that may be more.

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<v Speaker 19>Of a hope within the diaspora community, people outside of

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<v Speaker 19>Iran who hope to see that. There have been protests

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<v Speaker 19>and calling for his name. There's been graffiti calling for

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<v Speaker 19>his name. I mean, obviously that would be a wonderful

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<v Speaker 19>phenomenal thing where he served as some sort of transitional figure.

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<v Speaker 19>But it's more likely that you have the regime breaks

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<v Speaker 19>up and a piece.

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<v Speaker 11>Of it says we're going to have a palace.

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<v Speaker 19>Coup and we're going to take over and we're going

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<v Speaker 19>to negotiate with with the United States and our allies.

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<v Speaker 1>When we come back from break, we're going to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about the many, many problems that Ron faces no matter

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<v Speaker 1>who is running it.

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<v Speaker 4>Dan.

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<v Speaker 1>The first time I went to a Dan seminar at CSIS,

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<v Speaker 1>it was about rebuilding shattered economies, and they're probably an

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<v Speaker 1>economy and the developed world economy as shattered as Ron's

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<v Speaker 1>is nor one with as much wealth to put to

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<v Speaker 1>the service of the people who are on if they

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<v Speaker 1>actually want to go about it. We'll talk about the

1:25:08.360 --> 1:25:10.920
<v Speaker 1>steps that ought to be followed in the aftermath of

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<v Speaker 1>the conflict, which we hope, as Dan Rundy said, is

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<v Speaker 1>short sharp and over with no loss of life to

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<v Speaker 1>the Americans or allies and just simply a quick regime chain away. Gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>what an arc that would be for my life, because

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<v Speaker 1>I started working for Richard Nixon when they were.

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<v Speaker 4>Pushing the show out.

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<v Speaker 1>Wouldn't it be great to be talking on the radio

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<v Speaker 1>and television when they pushed out the CIA tool or

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<v Speaker 1>stated in America.

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<v Speaker 4>Welcome back to America.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Hugh Hewitt, joined by Daniel Rundy. Daniel is a

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<v Speaker 1>senior advisor at the Center for Strategic and International Studies

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<v Speaker 1>in DC. Not place to go for smart people at CSIS.

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<v Speaker 1>He's the author of a fabulous book, The American Imperative.

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<v Speaker 1>Dan as I said before the break, I went up

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<v Speaker 1>to CSIS wants to hear you talk about international banking

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<v Speaker 1>and how lending facilities operate with countries. What is the

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<v Speaker 1>best way for the world of support a free people

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<v Speaker 1>of Iran with a shattered economy and infrastructure.

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<v Speaker 19>So in an ideal world, the day after is a

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<v Speaker 19>boring day and things are still functioning. The day after

1:26:16.040 --> 1:26:19.200
<v Speaker 19>there's some sort of a peaceful, bloodless palace coup and

1:26:19.200 --> 1:26:23.000
<v Speaker 19>there's some sort of a military strongman comes in that

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<v Speaker 19>it was associated with the regime and wants to negotiate

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<v Speaker 19>with us.

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<v Speaker 11>That would be, in my view, the best outcome, and it's.

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<v Speaker 19>Not impossible, but it's something that we have to work towards.

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<v Speaker 19>So whatever happens in an ideal scenario where you have

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<v Speaker 19>a boring day after, you have to think about stabilization

1:26:42.080 --> 1:26:45.360
<v Speaker 19>along with diplomacy. So we have to think about making

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<v Speaker 19>sure we're protecting the US force and our allies. We

1:26:48.600 --> 1:26:50.960
<v Speaker 19>have to make sure that they understand that if they

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<v Speaker 19>mess with us, then really bad things will happen, and

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<v Speaker 19>then we need to announce a stabilization plan. They have

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<v Speaker 19>a whole series of problems. They've had inflation, and they've

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<v Speaker 19>had a run on their currency because they didn't have

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<v Speaker 19>enough money in their central bank.

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<v Speaker 11>So they're going to have to look.

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<v Speaker 19>At things like making sure that they have enough money

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<v Speaker 19>in the till you Also, they spend a lot of

1:27:11.000 --> 1:27:14.680
<v Speaker 19>money on their army, and they also spend money on

1:27:14.720 --> 1:27:17.320
<v Speaker 19>their nukes, and they spend money on their proxies.

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<v Speaker 11>If they got out of the proxy.

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<v Speaker 19>Business and got out of the nuke business and cut

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<v Speaker 19>back on their defense, a lot of that money over

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<v Speaker 19>time could be allocated towards things like water, which is

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<v Speaker 19>something I want to talk about as well as other

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<v Speaker 19>infrastructure projects.

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<v Speaker 11>But also if they were out of the proxy.

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<v Speaker 19>Business and now the nuke business, the risk premium of

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<v Speaker 19>investing in Iran or in the neighborhood would go down.

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<v Speaker 1>You.

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<v Speaker 11>I mean, that's actually even more important than the money that.

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<v Speaker 19>If people felt like, Okay, well this is actually a

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<v Speaker 19>safer place. Imagine an Iran that was as peaceful as

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<v Speaker 19>say Turkey, or in Iran that was as stable as

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<v Speaker 19>a place like I don't know, Saudi Arabia, or as

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<v Speaker 19>stable as UAE, and as investor friendly as UAE.

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<v Speaker 11>And you know this, you because you spent a lot

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<v Speaker 11>of time in Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 19>There's some incredible people of Iranian descent who live all

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<v Speaker 19>the states and.

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<v Speaker 4>Unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go to water, water water right now in the

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<v Speaker 1>district of Columbia. I heard on Fox News this morning,

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<v Speaker 1>John Roberts referred to it as the pooh Tomic because

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<v Speaker 1>of the massive sewage spill. All of a sudden, people

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<v Speaker 1>in the h in the del Marva area are realizing

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<v Speaker 1>clean water is not a given.

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<v Speaker 4>Do they have enough water in Iran? When you say water, water, water.

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<v Speaker 1>People might snooze off, but it's actually the number one

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<v Speaker 1>thing you need in a country.

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<v Speaker 19>So Prime Minister net and Yahoo did a video to

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<v Speaker 19>the Iranian people with a glass of water.

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<v Speaker 11>I don't know if you saw this here. No, this

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<v Speaker 11>is maybe six or six or.

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<v Speaker 19>Nine months ago, and actually maybe something for your listeners

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<v Speaker 19>to take a look at, because he understood how important

1:28:49.840 --> 1:28:52.120
<v Speaker 19>this was. So it's him sitting at a table with

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<v Speaker 19>a clean glass of water. Because as you know you,

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<v Speaker 19>because you've you and your your listeners, or you have

1:28:56.760 --> 1:29:00.479
<v Speaker 19>a smart listening audience, they know that Israel has really

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<v Speaker 19>done phenomenal things with water management. They've made the desert

1:29:03.680 --> 1:29:08.360
<v Speaker 19>bloom in Israel. Netnyah who got on a video and

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<v Speaker 19>said I want to bring Israel's water technology and agricultural

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<v Speaker 19>technologies to Iran, and they drank the glass of water

1:29:17.080 --> 1:29:19.519
<v Speaker 19>and said, you guys have a major water crisis and

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<v Speaker 19>a major water problem. So some of it is about

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<v Speaker 19>management issues, some of it's about there's also all sorts

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<v Speaker 19>of urban issues. We're obviously here in the District of Columbia,

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<v Speaker 19>we've been taking for granted for a long time water infrastructure.

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<v Speaker 19>They have water infrastructure problems. The amount of money needed

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<v Speaker 19>to repair the water systems in Iran. The estimates are

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<v Speaker 19>certainly in the tens of billions and as high as

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<v Speaker 19>in the hundreds of billions of dollars.

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<v Speaker 11>Ye, they've underinvested in it.

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<v Speaker 19>Like I said, if you have a choice between financing

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<v Speaker 19>a proxy or financing nuclear weapons or water, they've said,

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<v Speaker 19>I'll finance the proxies and the nuclear weapons over the water,

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<v Speaker 19>and now they're paying for it. One of the regimes

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<v Speaker 19>leaders has even openly talked about Tehran people leaving Tehran

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<v Speaker 19>and moving to other cities because there's not enough water

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<v Speaker 19>for people to live in Tehran. That the water levels

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<v Speaker 19>and you know about this from California, like the water

1:30:13.160 --> 1:30:16.519
<v Speaker 19>tables are so low for a bunch of reasons, but

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<v Speaker 19>basically a lot of it's mismanagement, under investment, but also

1:30:20.600 --> 1:30:24.599
<v Speaker 19>lack of technology. So let's say you had a peaceful Iran.

1:30:25.040 --> 1:30:30.559
<v Speaker 19>Imagine Iran as you know, you had a centuries long

1:30:30.640 --> 1:30:36.639
<v Speaker 19>peaceful relationship with Judaism before the Ayatolas took over. Imagine

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<v Speaker 19>a new partnership on water and water technology and agriculture

1:30:41.000 --> 1:30:45.479
<v Speaker 19>in Iran with Israel. In Iran that's at peace is

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<v Speaker 19>in Iran that can have a much more productive agriculture.

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<v Speaker 11>They have all sorts of.

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<v Speaker 19>Opportunities, but they have to get a handle on this

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<v Speaker 19>water issue so that it would be absolutely one of

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<v Speaker 19>the first things.

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<v Speaker 1>We no longer have USA idea, and I'm one of

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<v Speaker 1>the people that it's happy that we don't. But who

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<v Speaker 1>takes the lead for the United States in the post?

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<v Speaker 1>We didn't give much shot to this when we invaded

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<v Speaker 1>Iraq and as a result it was a mess. Who

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<v Speaker 1>ought to be in charge of our relations with Iran?

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<v Speaker 1>The President can't do everything and Secretary Rubio has got

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<v Speaker 1>ninety five jobs. Who takes the lead?

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<v Speaker 19>Well, ultimately we're going to have to have it. Certainly

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<v Speaker 19>shouldn't be the Department of Defense over time, And as

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<v Speaker 19>I said, I don't think we want to be in

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<v Speaker 19>the regime like taking over and having a CPA like

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<v Speaker 19>we had in Iraq. I don't think that's what they're

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<v Speaker 19>looking to do. I think they're looking to either defang

1:31:34.680 --> 1:31:37.599
<v Speaker 19>the regime, force them back to the negotiating table, have

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<v Speaker 19>a palace coup and have some more pliable, manageable partner

1:31:41.479 --> 1:31:44.519
<v Speaker 19>like we have in Venezuela, or hopefully some sort of

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<v Speaker 19>a freedom agenda uprising where some more reasonable leader, whether

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<v Speaker 19>it's the shot, the shot, the son of the shot,

1:31:52.439 --> 1:31:55.880
<v Speaker 19>or somebody else, comes in. Given all that, we ultimately

1:31:55.920 --> 1:31:58.080
<v Speaker 19>want the Iranians to run things. Look at what's happened

1:31:58.120 --> 1:32:02.200
<v Speaker 19>in Venezuela, where since the US has been using different

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<v Speaker 19>tools to help channel behavior and incentivize behavior, but has

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<v Speaker 19>not put.

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<v Speaker 11>Troops on the ground.

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<v Speaker 19>I do not imagine center we're going to put troops

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<v Speaker 19>on the ground, and I could see us channeling and

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<v Speaker 19>we want to manage the oil revenues so that they're

1:32:15.439 --> 1:32:17.840
<v Speaker 19>not spending it on proxies and nukes and rather spending

1:32:17.880 --> 1:32:21.479
<v Speaker 19>it on things like water and electricity, and then helping

1:32:21.520 --> 1:32:24.559
<v Speaker 19>to change the behavior of the regime so that all

1:32:24.600 --> 1:32:28.120
<v Speaker 19>these fabulous Iranians in the diaspora come back and rebuild

1:32:28.120 --> 1:32:31.479
<v Speaker 19>the country, invest in the country, and then others could

1:32:31.479 --> 1:32:32.479
<v Speaker 19>come in alongside it.

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<v Speaker 11>There's a series of institutions.

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<v Speaker 19>Of course, the IMF and the World Bank, your listeners

1:32:36.640 --> 1:32:38.080
<v Speaker 19>have heard of it, but there's a series of other

1:32:38.120 --> 1:32:41.160
<v Speaker 19>institutions that are less well known that over time could

1:32:41.200 --> 1:32:43.200
<v Speaker 19>be very involved in the reconstruction of Iran.

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<v Speaker 11>One is something called the.

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<v Speaker 19>EBRD, which has operations in Turkey operations in the Caucasuits.

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<v Speaker 4>You don't get to use an acronym without telling it's what.

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<v Speaker 11>It's starting for.

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<v Speaker 4>Dan.

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<v Speaker 11>Sorry, I shouldn't do that. I know I've been on

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<v Speaker 11>your show before.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you owe me a chocolate Sunday, and I know

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<v Speaker 1>you're very particular about it.

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<v Speaker 4>Replace what's it stands up?

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<v Speaker 19>The European The European Bank for Reconstruction and Development.

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<v Speaker 11>The ebr D was a regional development bank set up

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<v Speaker 11>after the after the fall of the Soviet Union. So

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<v Speaker 11>they're they're a.

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<v Speaker 1>Partner, all right, Dan Rundy, keep coming back. Follow him

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<v Speaker 1>on x at Dan Rundy d a n r U

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<v Speaker 1>n d E. He's a senior advisor at the Centervisi

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<v Speaker 1>Tech Union National Studies.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you, Jane, I'll be right now.