1 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: Life Audio. Welcome to the Everyday Prayers Podcast with Million 2 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:20,080 Speaker 1: Praying Moms. I'm your host, Nicolette Belle, and I am 3 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: so excited today to have a special guest joining us, 4 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 1: Lindsay Goff, that is joining us this day to talk 5 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: about her new book, The Amazing Brain Club. And it 6 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: is such a valuable resource to parents and teachers, friends 7 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: of little people, and I think that we are going 8 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 1: to have a lot to gain from it here in 9 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 1: our conversation today. Lindsey, welcome to the show. 10 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me. I'm so happy 11 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:52,840 Speaker 2: to be here. We are glad as well. 12 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: Linday. Why don't you begin by telling us the age 13 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: of your kids, a little bit about you and what 14 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: you do. So I have a. 15 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 2: Very full and fun life. I have a four year 16 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 2: old and a seven year old, so the amount of 17 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 2: noise and joy in our house is just unreal. It's awesome. 18 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 2: I have been an education for about seventeen years now, 19 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:22,320 Speaker 2: so started out teaching preschool and then got to move 20 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 2: up in the world. I tak kindergarten and first and 21 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 2: second grade, and then when my oldest was born, switched 22 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 2: over into working as a school administrator and get to 23 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 2: specialize in student support, which is really exciting. So I 24 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 2: get to help families as they're navigating the process of 25 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 2: getting their child, you know, connected to the support they 26 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 2: need at school. But then at the same time, we're 27 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 2: really closely with teachers and help them with their planning 28 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 2: to have all kids in mind as they're planning their lessons. 29 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: That's really really great. What a neat way to be 30 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: able to serve families and students in that way. Well, 31 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: tell us, just as we're getting started, a little bit 32 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 1: about your new book. Why did you write it and 33 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: what does it talk about. 34 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 2: So the new book is called The Amazing Brain Club, 35 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 2: and it was inspired by both my work as an educator, 36 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 2: but then also as a person who was diagnosed later 37 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:28,239 Speaker 2: in life with ADHD. I actually, after my second child 38 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 2: was born, I ended up having like very big postpartum 39 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 2: depression and anxiety, and as part of the treatment for that, 40 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 2: figured out like, wait a second, I'm getting better in 41 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 2: all these other areas. I feel like there's another layer 42 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 2: we need to figure out, you know, what's going on. 43 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 2: So I didn't find out until I was thirty three 44 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 2: that I had ADHD. And this is a book that 45 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 2: I wish that I had had much earlier in life. 46 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 2: And it was inspired by you know, these children too 47 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 2: that I've gotten to work with, have these incredible brains 48 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 2: that are just wired differently or they have you know, 49 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 2: so much energy and creativity and wanting to develop. Really, 50 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:15,799 Speaker 2: what is our theology of neurodiversity. That's a big and 51 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 2: ambitious goal. But how do we as teachers and as 52 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 2: parents and the grownups who love these beautiful kids in 53 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 2: our lives, how do we help them shape their understanding 54 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 2: of how they were wired with this worldview that God 55 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 2: created all of us and that he didn't make a 56 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 2: mistake when he made all of us. So it really 57 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 2: was several layers of things that led up to the 58 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 2: creation of the book. But that's really what inspired it. 59 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, tell us a little bit about that core message 60 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: of the book. I love you said that kind of 61 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: our theology around NeuroD divergence. So what is that? What 62 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: is that core message that you're trying to get out? 63 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 2: Yes, So, something I've talked about for years with teachers 64 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 2: is parent teacher conference prep. Right that moment when you're 65 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 2: sitting down with Hans and you're talking about, you know, 66 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 2: how's your child doing. And I actually made like a 67 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 2: chart that we look at where my belief is that 68 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 2: every behavior that we see in a child and how 69 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 2: they are wired is really a strength that's just waiting 70 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 2: for support, right, Just like you know, we teach our 71 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 2: kids how to walk, and we teach them how to talk, 72 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 2: and they you know, some of them depending on where 73 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 2: they are, you know, their age, Like they only learned 74 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 2: how to walk a few years ago. So we forget 75 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 2: how how much support kids need on all levels, right, 76 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 2: And so I have this chart where it shows, you know, 77 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:53,840 Speaker 2: here the behaviors you're seeing in class. This child is 78 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 2: talking out, they're blurting out in class. That could be challenging, 79 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 2: but that kid is a gifted public speaker. So how 80 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 2: can we support that strength and affirm that in this 81 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 2: child or even our kids who are you know, more quiet. 82 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 2: It's evil easy to label them as like they're really shy, 83 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 2: they don't want to participate, but I would say, man, 84 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 2: they are really thoughtful and intentional. They are a child 85 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 2: who is still a natural leader. They just do that quietly. 86 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 2: And so how can you look at these kids and say, 87 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 2: in your wiring, how do you show us more about 88 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 2: who God is? And what he is like, because I 89 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 2: believe each of us carry that. So that was really 90 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 2: the heart of the book, And the message of the 91 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 2: book is, you know, instead of looking at kids and 92 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 2: saying what's wrong with you, it's saying what is right 93 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 2: with you? And let's celebrate you know, all the things 94 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:59,039 Speaker 2: that come with having ADHD. But then even for kids 95 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 2: who are neuro typical, right, kids who are developing how 96 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:06,679 Speaker 2: we would expect a typical child to develop, we also 97 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 2: want those kids to have a lot of compassion and 98 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 2: understanding for their siblings and their classmates. So it's really 99 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 2: everybody gets to be in the amazing brain club. We 100 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 2: just want to celebrate how every person's brain is wired. 101 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 1: That's so, that's so cool. This is such a cute book, y'all. 102 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: It is the cutest little illustration and cutest story. You know, 103 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:32,239 Speaker 1: you describe ADHD traits as zippy, zippy and zoomi rather 104 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 1: than disruptive. How does changing this language around the way 105 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: we describe your diversity impact a child's self esteem? And then, 106 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:44,280 Speaker 1: like you were saying, impact of family, right, how we 107 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 1: talk about our siblings that may be struggling in that 108 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 1: area can completely impact how we view them and interact 109 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: with them in our homes. 110 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:02,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so important our voices as adults, whether you 111 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 2: are a parent or a teacher, it will become their 112 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 2: inner voice, it will become how they see themselves. And 113 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 2: so we were so intentional in creating the book where 114 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 2: we described some brains are like file cabinets where they 115 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 2: organize things, you know, a linear thinker. And I get 116 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 2: to be married to someone who has a file cabinet brain, 117 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 2: and he's amazing. He could sit and focus and you know, 118 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 2: get something done. He'll focus for five hours in a row. 119 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 2: I could not do that. And then other brains are 120 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 2: like confetti where it's there's ideas, they're scrilling around really 121 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 2: fast and there's lots of energy. But in the illustrations, 122 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 2: we didn't want to have like here's our file cabinet 123 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 2: brains or you know serious and they exactly the confetti brain. 124 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 2: You know, they are really fun, but we also have 125 00:07:55,320 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 2: really bright color colors and whimsical like there's an eye 126 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 2: to puts crawling out of when it's the file cabinets. 127 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 2: So we wanted it to portray these different types of 128 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 2: wiring as a really positive thing. So as families are 129 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 2: reading this book, and I've experienced this with the kids 130 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 2: in my life. It takes longer to read the book 131 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 2: because people get sidetracked by the illustrations. It's so cute, 132 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 2: like we need to stop and talk about everything they 133 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 2: see on the page and the things that they connect to. 134 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 2: And it's been neat to see kids like follow the 135 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 2: lead of the words that are used in the book 136 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 2: and say that they're so proud, like oh, my brain's 137 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 2: the file cabinet one. Mine brain's the confetti one. And 138 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 2: just see kids, you know, use that positive language after 139 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 2: reading it. 140 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: And I think that this book could be helpful. Like 141 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: I'm thinking of my sister and her family. She has 142 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 1: three kids, two of them what we would call maybe 143 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: have some neurodivergent to see and one of them does not, 144 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 1: and so it's always kind of an interesting dynamic within 145 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: their home. And they're all teenagers. But I think that 146 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 1: this book would even be helpful for them, right, you know, 147 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: it's it's not a chapter book with pages and different things, 148 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: but I think it would be a really great tool 149 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 1: even to help these teenagers help understand and how they 150 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 1: talk with one another and interact with each other around 151 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 1: this topic. 152 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely absolutely, And that's been feedback that I wasn't expecting. 153 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 2: But a lot of adults have said, like, this book 154 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 2: was so meaningful to me and as a grown up, 155 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 2: because I think, you know, when we were all kids, 156 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 2: this wasn't I don't think we were as aware of 157 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 2: how brains were wired. And you know, I that certainly 158 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 2: wasn't a resource that was available to me. Is like 159 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 2: the little quiet kidding class. These brain was you know, 160 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 2: all over the place. And so I think that that's 161 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 2: a really beautiful thing that this book can be for 162 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 2: kids who are forward one hundred and four, that everybody 163 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 2: needs to hear that message that the way that you 164 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 2: are wired is something that is needed in the world 165 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 2: and in the body of Christ. 166 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. So I want to kind of dig in just 167 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: a little bit because this is the Everyday Prayers podcast, 168 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 1: and we talk daily about praying for our children, and 169 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 1: so as we're talking about kind of changing some of 170 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 1: this language or our understanding, how might this change the 171 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: way we pray for the children in our life who, 172 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: you know, we receive an ADHD diagnosis and that might 173 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 1: can be have some anxiety that comes along with it, 174 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: or for our parents or they're just not sure about it. 175 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 1: Maybe they haven't struggled with that themselves and don't know 176 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 1: how to navigate that. What does that look like in 177 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: our prayers? How can we partner with God for the 178 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:55,199 Speaker 1: hearts of our children? That's the saying we have here 179 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 1: on the podcast in prayer for our kids when we're 180 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 1: now getting some of these conversations. 181 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I have so much compassion for that because I know, 182 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 2: like as a mom myself, I like made out a 183 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:12,199 Speaker 2: tissue paper when it comes to my kids, like if 184 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 2: there's anything that they're struggling with or that's hard, like 185 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 2: I just oh, it just hits you right at the 186 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:20,959 Speaker 2: core of who you are, right, it's just so near 187 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 2: and dear to your heart. And so I want to 188 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 2: encourage families, you know, as they're going through that process. 189 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:31,479 Speaker 2: I think that there is a space where you're you're 190 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 2: going to God with like there's a you know, please 191 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 2: give me the patience and please give me like the 192 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 2: the calm and the wisdom to be able to navigate 193 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 2: this with my child. But then I think that really 194 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 2: important layer of praying for our kids and over our kids, 195 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 2: I would put my hands on their little heads, like, yes, 196 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 2: who they are becoming right like that, and that they 197 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:02,839 Speaker 2: hear us like being so thankful for that, Like, thank 198 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 2: you for this incredible engineer brain that you have given 199 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 2: my child who is taking apart every single one of 200 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 2: his toys because they want to see how they work. 201 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 2: The bedroom comd is Yes, So thank you for this 202 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 2: inquisitive engineer brain. Thank you for this bold child who 203 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 2: has never met a stranger. And please, you know, give 204 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 2: them the right people in their lives to connect with, 205 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 2: give them opportunities to lead. I think that that, you know, 206 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 2: having that perspective of how can we pray for our 207 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 2: kids with their strengths and mind and then ask God 208 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 2: to give us a really sincere sensitivity to that, like 209 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 2: what are what are the things that You've put in 210 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 2: my child as part of the body of Christ to 211 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 2: make the world better? Because I believe that every single kid, 212 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 2: all of us, have something in us that the world 213 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 2: really needs. So just having a sense of activity to 214 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 2: that as their parents. 215 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 1: That's really beautiful. That really lines up a lot with 216 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 1: what we teach about praying scripture over our kids and 217 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:11,319 Speaker 1: so kind of taking these maybe this behavior that I'm 218 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 1: frustrated with in my child and taking the biblical opposite 219 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 1: of that. So if my child's having anger fits, you know, 220 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: we're going to pray for joy for our child. We're 221 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: not going to focus on the anger. We're not going 222 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 1: to say Lord. You know, we can say Lord, take 223 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 1: away the anger. But we don't want our focus or 224 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: our intention to be about the negative in our kids. 225 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 1: We want to focus on this biblical opposite of what 226 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:36,319 Speaker 1: we want to see and what we know God wants 227 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: to see the fruit of His spirit in their lives, 228 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: and we want to put that forth our in our children. 229 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 1: So I love this conversation because it is it's just 230 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 1: affirming of how we do that in this particular situation 231 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 1: in a child's life. 232 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 2: Yep, yep, absolutely absolutely, and that's for every kid, right 233 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:01,959 Speaker 2: we want to have you know, the children in our 234 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 2: lives are really getting that message, whether you are neurodivergent 235 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 2: or neurotypical, that all of our brains, every single one is, 236 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:12,839 Speaker 2: you know, bring something really important to the world. 237 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think. You know, our society especially can 238 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 1: like glorify different personality traits and with the kind of 239 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 1: our just social media culture and you know, certain things 240 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: can be put on pedestals and you know, it's just 241 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 1: so important to remember that we are all made differently, 242 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 1: and we're all we all bring something to the table 243 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 1: that the world needs. I love that you you pointed 244 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: that out to us, Lindsay, I wonder you described yourself 245 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: as that quiet one in class with your brain running 246 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: in a lot of different directions. So I just want 247 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: to ask you growing up with your dad, Bob Goff, 248 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 1: who is just an influential Christian leader, voice, visionary, all 249 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 1: of these things people are looking to to help inform 250 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: what they believe and be encouraged by him. So, growing 251 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: up with a parent in that type of a role, 252 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: how did you really kind of find your own your 253 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 1: own legs and your own vision and ministry. And you've 254 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 1: gotten to write a book with your dad, which is 255 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 1: really really so kind of talk about that and maybe 256 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 1: how he and your mom supported you in that. 257 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 2: Oh, that's a great question. They have always been our 258 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 2: our biggest supporters. And I grew up in a home 259 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 2: where our interests were really taken so seriously, like so 260 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 2: loving and where you know, my brothers and I we 261 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 2: are all neurodry virgin in our own ways. It's it 262 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 2: runs in the family. And I remember as a kid, 263 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 2: I got a wild hair that I was going to 264 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 2: be an artist and I was going to paint. So 265 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 2: I started nailing a bunch of nails into the side 266 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 2: of the house and had all these canvases hanging up, 267 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 2: and I remember, instead of instead of getting mad, it 268 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 2: was like a teaching moment. My dad said, you know what, 269 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 2: this is beautiful, you are an artist. Let's go get 270 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 2: you an easel. And we made it like a. 271 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: Day to go get an meself. 272 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 2: So that was I mean, it's one silly example, but 273 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 2: that was very much how we were raised that like 274 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 2: we we see these really great things in you, and 275 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 2: we are here to support that. And we were exposed 276 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 2: to a lot of things they think at a very 277 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 2: young age because of what my dad did, you know, 278 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 2: in his human rights attorney work, is you know, as 279 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 2: a fourteen year old, I'm seeing, you know, what's happening 280 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 2: around the world, and just that global perspective and that 281 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 2: model that I am so thankful that I grew up 282 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 2: with is that you can take the your profession and 283 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 2: you can use that con text to bring in your faith. 284 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: Right. 285 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 2: These are not separate categories, like faith cannot be separated 286 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:10,679 Speaker 2: from how you live your day to day life in 287 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 2: the world. So I think that's been very much the 288 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 2: approach that I've brought to education, where I knew was 289 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 2: an eight year old that I wanted to be a teacher. 290 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 2: My brothers were my first students. We were like this, 291 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:25,159 Speaker 2: this was always going to be the track that I 292 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 2: went on. But I even as an adult now, I 293 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 2: cannot separate like my you know, expression of faith and 294 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 2: what I do in the day to day. So that's 295 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 2: really where this came out of. But I think when 296 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 2: you talk about you know, standing standing on your own 297 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 2: in faith, I remember there was a really pivotal moment 298 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:51,640 Speaker 2: right after my daughter was born. Do you remember when 299 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 2: there was the baby formula shortage. It was a few 300 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 2: years ago, and that was right when my daughter was 301 00:17:57,960 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 2: born when that happened. 302 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 1: And you're both for right, yeah, yeah, yeah, right there 303 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 1: with you, yeah, same face. 304 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 2: So that was terrifying. That was like a couple months 305 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 2: after she was born. We couldn't find her formula anywhere. 306 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 2: So I would be up at you know, two am 307 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:18,159 Speaker 2: and feeding and checking you know, different websites or is 308 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 2: it available on placing orders? And I remember in that 309 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 2: time and I can't oh, I really get choked up 310 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 2: even talking about it. Where I a bunch of moms 311 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 2: made this website where it was like a formula exchange, 312 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:33,880 Speaker 2: so you could put like here's the formula I need, 313 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 2: or here's the formula I have extra And I remember 314 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 2: like making a commitment during that time that I will 315 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 2: always have a thing of my daughter's formula on that 316 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 2: website because like I want, like, if I'm going to 317 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 2: love my child so much, like it also means like 318 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 2: I'm loving other people's kids too, right, And so since then, 319 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 2: I've just described it as like this is the faith 320 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 2: that I'm interested in living out is like the baby 321 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 2: formula faith, right that like this is that we love 322 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:07,640 Speaker 2: other people's kids just as much as our own, and 323 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 2: that the places where we have been placed and have influence, 324 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 2: that we bring a level of excellence to that because 325 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 2: we have Jesus, like because we love Jesus. So those 326 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 2: are all you know, It's it's a bunch of separate 327 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 2: thoughts there, but I think that's really you know, how 328 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 2: would some up my faith is just that you know, 329 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 2: the baby formula moment that is such. 330 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 1: A beautiful, a beautiful testament of that. I was breastfeeding 331 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: during that time. So, by God's blessing, I did not. 332 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 1: I wasn't in complete panic over that in that moment, 333 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 1: but I felt it so really because I knew I 334 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 1: was fortunate to have what I needed in that moment 335 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: to feed my daughter, and I knew so many And 336 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,199 Speaker 1: so what a beautiful testament that I love that that 337 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:58,640 Speaker 1: baby formula faith that we're looking we're looking to our 338 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 1: neighbor regin and loving our neighbor as ourselves as our Yes, 339 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,359 Speaker 1: that's often as moms we can feel like, Okay, we've 340 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 1: been called to our family to disciple our children, and 341 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 1: that is our number one calling, right is to disciple 342 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 1: our our unit, the people that God has given directly 343 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 1: to us. But we should never do that at the 344 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 1: cost of the people around us, right that we should 345 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:27,159 Speaker 1: always be looking out and looking next door, and looking 346 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 1: across the street and looking in the carpool line or 347 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:34,160 Speaker 1: wherever we find ourselves, that we are engaging and loving 348 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 1: the children around us who need need love and affection 349 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: as well. So that's a beautiful witness. Thank you for 350 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 1: sharing that with us, Lindsey. 351 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:47,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And I think it's you know, so easy 352 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 2: to lose sight of like what an impact those things 353 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 2: can have. I mean that was mostly you know, impacted 354 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:57,640 Speaker 2: me and my understanding of faith. But I remember, even 355 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 2: really early on in my teaching career, there was a 356 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 2: child in my class who had he had enough energy 357 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 2: in his body to power Chicago. This kid was like 358 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:13,160 Speaker 2: bunting up. He came into my room with a reputation. 359 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 2: And I remember feeling. 360 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 1: Like, hey, like why gives the kid a chance? Like 361 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: let's see you know what he's like. 362 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is you know, first grade, so they're really little. 363 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 2: But I remember partnering with this little kid's family and 364 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 2: asking them like, hey, there's gonna be a jump rope 365 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 2: club at school. Can I can I go with your kids? 366 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 2: Like can we try this together and see if this 367 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 2: works for And he was the best kid in that club, 368 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 2: Like he now had an outlet for his energy where 369 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 2: he's like fount in my busy. 370 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, but oh but. 371 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 2: Here was like the really beautiful part is that he 372 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 2: now had a T shirt that matched the other kids. 373 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:57,159 Speaker 2: He like had that sense of belonging, he had something 374 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 2: to do at recess, Like social things were really tricky, 375 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 2: but now if he like has a jump rope and 376 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 2: all the other kids are practicing. Now he's like part 377 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 2: of the club and included with the group. And so 378 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:14,120 Speaker 2: I think that, you know, that is the heart of Jesus, right, 379 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 2: is like that we want to have kids included. But 380 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:21,879 Speaker 2: I think we we cannot separate faith out from you 381 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:25,479 Speaker 2: know that putting that into action and just being on 382 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 2: the lookout for who are the kids on the fringes 383 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 2: who really need to hear this message? And it's really 384 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 2: our job as the safe grown ups in kids' lives, 385 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 2: to be a couple steps out ahead of them, which 386 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 2: is you know, there's a lot of work. I don't 387 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:42,159 Speaker 2: say that lightly at all, especially in the parenting side. 388 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 2: Like there, I wrote this book because I needed to 389 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 2: hear this, yeah, for myself and for my kid. But 390 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 2: there's there's a there's a part in that where in 391 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,680 Speaker 2: the book I say, when I'm worried that I'm too much, 392 00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 2: I come back to that truth that we are all 393 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 2: created as a part of the body of Christ and 394 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 2: we all have a special purpose. And so I hope 395 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 2: that you know, this book is encouraging for parents who 396 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 2: are really in the thick of it. But you know, 397 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 2: it's really it is. It is hard, and so this 398 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 2: can provide, you know, some encouragement, hope, and perspective. I 399 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 2: hope that that's a takeaway for other moms who are 400 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 2: in the thick of it too. 401 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really really beautiful. And I think too, you know, 402 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 1: praying for our kids to notice the kids around them too, 403 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 1: and modeling that for them. I specifically, they're always telling me, 404 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 1: you know, if I would come home and I got 405 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 1: left out of something, or all my friends with other 406 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,679 Speaker 1: lunch table and they're went in a seat for me, 407 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,160 Speaker 1: and she would always tell me, you know, look around 408 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,880 Speaker 1: and see who else is sitting by theirselves and go 409 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,479 Speaker 1: ask them and use them with them. And that just 410 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 1: stuck with me. I wouldn't have done that on my own. 411 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 1: And because she might for me and taught me that 412 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: and gave me that idea and that language. When I 413 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: was in the lunch room, I began to look around 414 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 1: and see and then even as an adult now, I 415 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 1: walk into a room and I don't know anybody, I 416 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,120 Speaker 1: try to find the person who's by themselves and quietly 417 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,639 Speaker 1: introduce myself to them. And you know, that's just something 418 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 1: that we can pray for in our kids, and we 419 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: can model that in our kids, And so I think 420 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,199 Speaker 1: that this book helps us to be able to have 421 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:28,400 Speaker 1: those types of conversations, you know, with kids who are 422 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:32,239 Speaker 1: maybe more typical brains, have those filing cabinet brains that 423 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 1: maybe society puts on a pedestal to really kind of 424 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:40,120 Speaker 1: teach them. You know that when this friend acts out 425 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 1: in class, acts out, you know, is how we say that, 426 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 1: where sure he should be doing that? And so just 427 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 1: allows us to help kind of have those conversations of 428 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 1: looking around and looking outside of ourselves and including and 429 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: taking that first step, not waiting, you know, oh nobody's 430 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:01,120 Speaker 1: including me, poor, poor, pitiful me, but being the one 431 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 1: to go, okay, who else needs to feel included and 432 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,959 Speaker 1: loved and kind of modeling that for our kids and 433 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 1: helping those conversations. So I think this book is a 434 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 1: great way to hold us to do that, lindsay, so, 435 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 1: I want you to tell people where they can find 436 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 1: you and how they can find your book, because I 437 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 1: know everybody's going to want to grab a copy. 438 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 2: Oh I hope they do. It's it's on Amazon, Target, Barnes, 439 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:32,679 Speaker 2: and Noble wherever books are sold. Yes, yes, and you were, 440 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 2: And that's been so exciting to now that it's actually 441 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 2: out in the world to see, you know, here from 442 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 2: people that you know it's been meaningful for them to 443 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 2: read with their kids and meaningful to read as a 444 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 2: grown up. But I can be found. I have a 445 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 2: website lindsaygoffitisag dot com, and then I'm also on Instagram 446 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 2: at Lindsay Vidisich. So would love to connect and I've 447 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 2: just been so touched. I've been getting, you know, messages 448 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 2: from people with stories about reading it with their classrooms 449 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,159 Speaker 2: or reading it with their kids, and so I just 450 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 2: I love hearing that I'm always always here for it. 451 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 1: Oh great, great, great, great, Well, Lindsay, thank you so 452 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 1: much for your time and for encouraging all of us today. 453 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 1: And I wondered if you would be willing to close 454 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 1: us in prayer and pray for our moms who are 455 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:23,679 Speaker 1: listening today. 456 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 2: Oh, I would love to God, thank you so much 457 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 2: for the gift of getting to love these beautiful kids 458 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:37,640 Speaker 2: in our lives. I pray that you will give us 459 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:41,640 Speaker 2: wisdom and patience, that you will help us to see 460 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 2: the strengths and our kids, and that you will help 461 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 2: us to be the ones who speak that over them, 462 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 2: to be the ones who point out to them. You 463 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 2: know who they are becoming, the plan that you have 464 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 2: for them. So we pray that you will be with us. 465 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 2: Thank you for the gift of God to love these 466 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 2: kids in our lives, and we pray this in your 467 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 2: strong name. 468 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 1: Amen, Amen Lindsay, thank you so much, and friends, we'll 469 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 1: see you back next week on the podcast. May is 470 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 1: the month to celebrate moms, and we've updated our mom 471 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 1: shop just in time with some of our favorite resources. 472 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 1: Be sure to check out our updated shop at Million 473 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 1: Prayingmoms dot com, forward slash shop, or click shop from 474 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 1: our homepage. 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