WEBVTT - Vice President Vance returns to The Hugh Hewitt Show 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:03.720 Welcome to today's podcast sponsored by Hillsdale College, All Things 0:00:03.800 --> 0:00:06.280 Hillsdale at Hillsdale dot ed or. I encourage you to 0:00:06.280 --> 0:00:08.800 take advantage of the many free online courses there, and 0:00:08.840 --> 0:00:11.119 of course I'll listener to the Hilldale dialogues, all of 0:00:11.119 --> 0:00:14.080 them at que for Hillsdale dot com or just Google, 0:00:14.200 --> 0:00:20.560 Apple iTunes and Hilldale Berna Glory Eating Grace America special program. Today, 0:00:20.560 --> 0:00:23.319 I'm pleased to welcome back Vice President jd. Vance to 0:00:23.360 --> 0:00:26.680 the program to talk about his brand new book, Communion. 0:00:26.720 --> 0:00:29.760 Mister Vice President, Welcome back and congratulations on your book. 0:00:29.800 --> 0:00:32.479 You a memoir about crossing the Tiber. I found it 0:00:32.600 --> 0:00:35.960 very winsome, very revealing. I found it very frustrating that 0:00:36.080 --> 0:00:37.960 on your book tour no one talked to you about it. 0:00:38.040 --> 0:00:40.320 Did you Were you surprised by that? They talked about 0:00:40.360 --> 0:00:41.520 everything but Communions. 0:00:42.600 --> 0:00:45.559 Yeah, it's amazing anybody bought the book, Hugh, because I 0:00:45.680 --> 0:00:48.479 was talking about, of course, the Iran situation. I was 0:00:48.520 --> 0:00:50.600 talking about economic issues. I think it kind of comes 0:00:50.600 --> 0:00:52.800 with the territory though, Hugh. When you're the vice president, 0:00:52.800 --> 0:00:54.920 you're out there talking about a book, people are going 0:00:54.960 --> 0:00:56.720 to ask you about the news today and whatever else. 0:00:56.800 --> 0:01:00.480 Is going on. So I appreciated it. It certainly was. You know, 0:01:01.000 --> 0:01:03.520 for me, what I wanted to do was just write 0:01:03.560 --> 0:01:07.160 a book about obviously my own faith journey, but try 0:01:07.200 --> 0:01:09.640 to write something that was not kind of a traditional 0:01:09.880 --> 0:01:13.319 political book. Right, it's not. Here are ten problems in America, 0:01:13.360 --> 0:01:15.720 and here are thirty policy proposals for how to fix 0:01:15.800 --> 0:01:19.959 it. It's very honest. It's some I think in some ways 0:01:19.400 --> 0:01:24.640 it's very self critical. But I think any honest account 0:01:24.760 --> 0:01:27.440 of how a person finds their way to Christ is 0:01:27.480 --> 0:01:30.160 going to be exactly that, and hopefully some people pick 0:01:30.200 --> 0:01:31.760 it up and find some meaning in it. 0:01:32.120 --> 0:01:34.360 I want to make sure that at least the Catholics 0:01:34.360 --> 0:01:36.760 who are listening today are those who are Catholic adjacent. 0:01:36.880 --> 0:01:38.840 Get out there and read it, or they can get 0:01:38.840 --> 0:01:41.119 the audiobook. I got both. You did a very fine 0:01:41.200 --> 0:01:43.560 job reading it. I want to start though, with Father 0:01:43.680 --> 0:01:46.240 Harry Steven or Stephan. How do you pronounce his name? 0:01:46.920 --> 0:01:47.680 Henry Stephan? 0:01:48.040 --> 0:01:51.080 All right, Father Stephan is exactly the sort of priest 0:01:51.360 --> 0:01:55.720 every Catholic curious person would be blessed to run into. 0:01:56.000 --> 0:01:57.480 Please tell the audience about it. 0:01:58.800 --> 0:02:02.400 Yeah, so I'll tell you. Worry about Henry's stephan Father Henry, 0:02:02.440 --> 0:02:05.200 as I call him so very early in my own 0:02:05.280 --> 0:02:07.560 faith journey. He is the priest who baptized me, but 0:02:07.600 --> 0:02:09.800 I don't believe I had been baptized at this point. 0:02:10.280 --> 0:02:14.040 I met him at a Cincinnati waffle restaurant and he 0:02:14.120 --> 0:02:17.560 walks in. It is October the thirty first, and he's 0:02:17.560 --> 0:02:20.240 a Dominican friar, so he always wears this sort of 0:02:20.360 --> 0:02:24.000 gigantic white frock. And I say gigantic because Father Henry's 0:02:24.000 --> 0:02:28.560 probably six', five two. Fifty he's a very big. Dude 0:02:29.000 --> 0:02:32.000 and he walks in the entire restaurant stops and stares at, 0:02:32.040 --> 0:02:34.960 him And Father, henry without skipping a, beat, says don't worry, 0:02:35.000 --> 0:02:38.519 everybody it's not A halloween. COSTUME i actually do believe In. 0:02:38.639 --> 0:02:42.080 Jesus and everybody laughs that he sits. Down he's just 0:02:42.080 --> 0:02:46.920 this amazingly, gregarious funny but just a good human, being 0:02:46.960 --> 0:02:49.720 a good. Priest he cares a lot about the, faith 0:02:50.160 --> 0:02:52.600 but he's also very. Thoughtful he's a brilliant guy who 0:02:52.680 --> 0:02:55.880 went To, princeton who just he feels, it but he 0:02:55.919 --> 0:02:58.120 also thinks about. It AND i think he was the 0:02:58.480 --> 0:03:00.720 exact kind of person THAT i need to be connected 0:03:00.760 --> 0:03:02.239 to in order to find my own way back To, 0:03:02.320 --> 0:03:04.600 christ because you, KNOW i had a lot of. QUESTIONS 0:03:04.720 --> 0:03:06.440 i had a lot of you, KNOW i was very 0:03:06.440 --> 0:03:09.160 interested in the intellectual tradition of The catholic, faith BUT 0:03:09.560 --> 0:03:11.360 i also needed somebody who could steer me in my 0:03:11.360 --> 0:03:13.639 own practice of. It And Father henry did all of those. 0:03:13.639 --> 0:03:14.960 Things he's a, great great guy. 0:03:15.440 --> 0:03:16.720 There i'm going to come back to him in a, 0:03:16.720 --> 0:03:18.840 second BUT i want to lay the. Groundwork you're a 0:03:18.880 --> 0:03:20.960 Young life, kid which is a reveal to. Me i'm 0:03:21.000 --> 0:03:23.080 a big fan Of Young life for high school. Kids 0:03:23.080 --> 0:03:25.280 it's better THAN i have not drinking beer and chasing 0:03:25.680 --> 0:03:28.519 the other. Sex but did you go To Young life? 0:03:28.560 --> 0:03:30.720 Camp do you remember the name of your area director 0:03:30.800 --> 0:03:31.240 or anything like. 0:03:31.280 --> 0:03:33.760 That, NOW i never went to the, camp BUT i 0:03:33.760 --> 0:03:37.280 always went to the high school, meetings and it look 0:03:37.360 --> 0:03:39.080 it was very very good for me to your, point 0:03:39.240 --> 0:03:41.120 kept me out of some other trouble That i'm SURE 0:03:41.120 --> 0:03:44.720 i would have gotten involved in as a. Teenager and you, 0:03:44.760 --> 0:03:46.840 know it's one of these ways in WHICH i did 0:03:46.880 --> 0:03:50.000 have a foundation in faith that eventually came back to 0:03:50.040 --> 0:03:52.120 me in a big. Way AS i talk about in the, 0:03:52.120 --> 0:03:53.720 BOOK i kind of fell away from, it, RIGHT i 0:03:53.760 --> 0:03:56.200 called myself an atheist for a. Time but WHEN i 0:03:56.240 --> 0:03:59.040 look back at my own journey coming back to the, 0:03:59.080 --> 0:04:02.400 FAITH i don't think THAT i would have had quite 0:04:02.400 --> 0:04:05.360 the same trajectory if it hadn't been for that original. 0:04:05.400 --> 0:04:07.920 Foundation so even though it didn't take you, know sometimes 0:04:07.920 --> 0:04:10.560 these seeds get planted and they lay dormant for a. 0:04:10.600 --> 0:04:13.000 While but for those of you who. 0:04:12.920 --> 0:04:14.840 Don't know About Young, LIFE i, mean you, know you show, 0:04:14.920 --> 0:04:17.040 up you read The, bible you do some, singing and 0:04:17.440 --> 0:04:20.240 it's just a really good way for high schoolers to 0:04:20.400 --> 0:04:23.000 engage with their faith at their, level BECAUSE i, think 0:04:23.000 --> 0:04:25.599 as everybody, knows you, know the way of sixty five 0:04:25.640 --> 0:04:28.640 year old engages with The Christian, faith it's going to 0:04:28.640 --> 0:04:30.520 be different from the way of forty five year old 0:04:30.520 --> 0:04:32.520 and certainly different from the way of fifteen year old 0:04:32.520 --> 0:04:33.080 engages with the. 0:04:33.120 --> 0:04:36.039 Faith and it's a great entry level and it does 0:04:36.120 --> 0:04:38.480 lay seeds so good on Young. LIFE i want to 0:04:38.520 --> 0:04:40.880 go back to Bother stephan now because if anyone picks 0:04:40.920 --> 0:04:42.440 up the book in the, BOOKSTORE i go to page 0:04:42.480 --> 0:04:46.440 one sixty. Three it's a very concise statement of how 0:04:46.480 --> 0:04:49.719 one comes to religious. Belief, quote you don't Fail god's 0:04:49.760 --> 0:04:52.360 presence and. Change in an, instance The father told you 0:04:52.600 --> 0:04:56.480 there's a roadmap To, god and you've got to, travel 0:04:56.560 --> 0:04:59.000 because for most of, us grace is not something that 0:04:59.080 --> 0:05:02.160 happens in a. MOMENT i thought that is exactly by the, 0:05:02.200 --> 0:05:05.599 Way Billy graham wasn't An aha moment lightning striking. Either 0:05:06.120 --> 0:05:09.279 Father stefan seemed to lay out the gradual, path the path. 0:05:09.360 --> 0:05:13.680 Upward, yeah that's exactly, Right, hugh and that that gradual 0:05:13.800 --> 0:05:17.160 path really spoke to, me because you know you're you're exactly. 0:05:17.240 --> 0:05:21.400 RIGHT i think some people probably Misrepresent Billy graham as 0:05:21.480 --> 0:05:23.279 kind of An aha moment and all of a sudden 0:05:23.279 --> 0:05:25.920 everything is. BETTER i think that's unfair To Billy. Graham 0:05:26.320 --> 0:05:29.600 but certainly in my own, FAITH i kind of had 0:05:29.600 --> 0:05:32.920 this idea that you, know you, prayed you Accepted jesus 0:05:32.920 --> 0:05:34.640 in your, heart and then everything was supposed to be 0:05:34.640 --> 0:05:36.440 better in your life and everything was supposed to be. 0:05:36.520 --> 0:05:40.000 Easy AND i found that unsatisfying in my, youth and 0:05:40.000 --> 0:05:41.919 that's one of the reasons WHY i fell away from that. 0:05:42.000 --> 0:05:45.760 Faith And Father henry explained grace as sort of a, 0:05:45.839 --> 0:05:49.560 process as sort of this process of, perfection AND i 0:05:49.600 --> 0:05:52.159 don't say self, perfection because the idea is that you 0:05:52.200 --> 0:05:55.000 Need god's help along the, way And he's constantly working 0:05:55.440 --> 0:05:58.560 in these subtle. Ways but you also you have to 0:05:58.600 --> 0:06:00.800 work at. It and there's there's a way in which 0:06:00.839 --> 0:06:03.120 the practice of the faith informs you in the right. 0:06:03.160 --> 0:06:05.440 Way there's a way in, which you, know participating in 0:06:05.440 --> 0:06:08.599 the sacraments and praying and actually going to confession and 0:06:08.640 --> 0:06:12.560 doing all these things they slowly have this miraculous effect 0:06:12.560 --> 0:06:15.640 on a. Person but for, me you, know WHEN i 0:06:15.680 --> 0:06:17.360 was nineteen years, old to, YOU i would think of 0:06:17.400 --> 0:06:19.640 a miracle as sort of you, Know god waves the 0:06:19.680 --> 0:06:23.279 magic wand and everything's different in some. WAYS i think 0:06:23.440 --> 0:06:25.560 What Father henry was able to show to me is 0:06:25.600 --> 0:06:30.080 that true miracles sometimes are no less amazing and no 0:06:30.200 --> 0:06:33.320 less physics, defying but sometimes they take a little bit of. 0:06:33.360 --> 0:06:37.159 Time and that way in which grace works patiently was 0:06:37.200 --> 0:06:40.480 a very important insight for me because it fit how 0:06:40.520 --> 0:06:43.039 the world actually. Worked it spoke to me in a 0:06:43.040 --> 0:06:45.640 way that the aha moment idea of theology never. 0:06:45.680 --> 0:06:48.880 DID i want the audience to. Know in the course 0:06:48.920 --> 0:06:52.839 of Reading, commune you'll run Into Saint Augustine chesterton of 0:06:52.880 --> 0:06:57.040 COURSE a S, Lewis Rene, Girard Pope leo the. Thirteenth 0:06:57.120 --> 0:07:00.040 you rossed out that And rod dreher in. There BUT 0:07:00.120 --> 0:07:01.760 i got to tell, YOU i went out and got 0:07:01.839 --> 0:07:05.720 The symposium On theology And falsification that you referenced By 0:07:05.760 --> 0:07:10.000 anthony Flu hair And Basil. Mitchell that that's not for, 0:07:10.080 --> 0:07:11.920 me Mister pikes, brat that's way about my. 0:07:12.040 --> 0:07:13.800 Bag, Ray did you actually get through? 0:07:13.800 --> 0:07:17.520 THAT i, did though the part THAT i talk about 0:07:17.560 --> 0:07:20.360 in the book is very, short so SO i think 0:07:20.440 --> 0:07:23.280 it's it's it's a relatively short series of essays and 0:07:23.320 --> 0:07:26.080 back and forth that was very important to. Me but 0:07:26.080 --> 0:07:28.480 but you know, what what WHAT i write about in 0:07:28.480 --> 0:07:30.760 the book IS i encountered these essays as a you, know, 0:07:30.920 --> 0:07:35.360 college you, know philosophy, kid and there was this sort 0:07:35.400 --> 0:07:38.400 of debate and AND i kind of at the time 0:07:39.440 --> 0:07:42.000 thought the atheist had won the. Debate but there was 0:07:42.200 --> 0:07:46.120 a response From Basil mitchell THAT i actually thought was 0:07:46.480 --> 0:07:48.960 very very, compelling AND i kept on returning to. It 0:07:49.000 --> 0:07:51.000 and the basic idea, Here i'm not going to do it. 0:07:51.160 --> 0:07:54.240 Justice SO i hope you and your listener listeners will forgive. 0:07:54.280 --> 0:07:57.680 Me but is this this idea that when you see 0:07:57.720 --> 0:08:01.560 something that doesn't comport with what you Think god should be, 0:08:01.640 --> 0:08:05.080 doing or you see something you see something that makes you, think, 0:08:05.080 --> 0:08:09.120 well Maybe god doesn't actually care about. Me the debate, is, 0:08:09.160 --> 0:08:11.840 really does that mean That god is real or does 0:08:11.840 --> 0:08:14.720 that mean That god is? False and What Basil mitchell 0:08:14.800 --> 0:08:17.400 says is, no, no, no, no you guys are kind of 0:08:17.440 --> 0:08:22.160 missing the. Point, absolutely when you see something happen that 0:08:22.320 --> 0:08:26.440 goes against divine, providence or when you see bad things 0:08:26.440 --> 0:08:30.400 to happen to good, people that absolutely does count against 0:08:30.480 --> 0:08:34.000 the idea That god loves human, beings but it doesn't count. 0:08:34.000 --> 0:08:38.120 Definitively in other, words it is something that should cause some, 0:08:38.200 --> 0:08:41.800 skepticism it is something that should cause some, humility but 0:08:41.840 --> 0:08:44.200 it's not something that should lead you to disregard your 0:08:44.200 --> 0:08:46.760 faith because the, ultimate you, know one of the ultimate 0:08:46.800 --> 0:08:49.640 truths of The christian faith is That god knows. Best 0:08:50.000 --> 0:08:52.560 now it requires again some humility to believe in, that 0:08:52.600 --> 0:08:56.000 it requires some patience to accept. It BUT i just 0:08:56.080 --> 0:08:59.240 this idea that you could see something that really did 0:08:59.280 --> 0:09:02.120 make you question your, faith but didn't make you discard. 0:09:02.160 --> 0:09:04.920 It the idea that it was okay to question and have, 0:09:05.000 --> 0:09:07.559 doubts even be angry At. God that was a very 0:09:07.600 --> 0:09:08.280 powerful thing for. 0:09:08.360 --> 0:09:09.360 Me, well it is. 0:09:09.400 --> 0:09:12.400 POWERFUL i left The Roman Catholic church for a dozen. 0:09:12.480 --> 0:09:15.520 YEARS i got brought back in By Archbishop charles shapewho 0:09:15.640 --> 0:09:18.199 listened to my radio show and, thought, no you got 0:09:18.200 --> 0:09:20.760 this all, wrong because the bishops went nuts in the 0:09:20.800 --> 0:09:24.680 Eighties Vice President. Vans they would send The Reagan White 0:09:24.679 --> 0:09:27.080 house letters on nuclear weapons and. Poverty they were just. 0:09:27.200 --> 0:09:29.719 Nuts they went over the left cliff AND i just 0:09:29.760 --> 0:09:32.800 couldn't take it. Anymore and the archbishop, explained and THEREFORE 0:09:32.800 --> 0:09:36.080 i was armored up against the pre, scandal, which by the, 0:09:36.080 --> 0:09:38.480 WAY i want the honest you deal with the pre, 0:09:38.600 --> 0:09:41.960 scandal the abuse, scandal and in a very forthright. WAY 0:09:42.040 --> 0:09:44.880 a lot Of catholics dodged, that And i'm very glad 0:09:44.920 --> 0:09:48.240 that you. Didn't the book would lack authenticity if you. 0:09:48.440 --> 0:09:51.720 Had do people still question you about that that they 0:09:51.720 --> 0:09:53.600 still have because it still lingers in the. 0:09:53.640 --> 0:09:56.640 Culture, well, YEAH i think it's one of those things 0:09:56.679 --> 0:10:00.160 that's always going to linger Over catholic culture because it 0:10:00.240 --> 0:10:04.240 was such a wounding thing for so Many, catholics that 0:10:04.360 --> 0:10:07.400 hurt so many people so, deeply and even those of, 0:10:07.440 --> 0:10:09.840 course key who weren't caught up in it, directly they 0:10:09.880 --> 0:10:12.320 were still offended by. It they were still asking, questions 0:10:12.400 --> 0:10:15.120 how could the church let this? Happen and for, Me, 0:10:15.280 --> 0:10:17.640 HUGH i write about this in the book that one 0:10:17.679 --> 0:10:20.360 of the things that happened is there was a Big 0:10:20.480 --> 0:10:26.120 Pennsylvania catholic abuse sort of reports that had come out 0:10:26.640 --> 0:10:28.560 right at the point WHERE i was talking With Father 0:10:28.640 --> 0:10:32.319 henry about becoming baptized and becoming received into The Catholic. 0:10:32.360 --> 0:10:34.920 Church and you, know my Wife, usha who is you, 0:10:34.960 --> 0:10:37.680 Know hugh is this brilliant. Lawyer there was a point 0:10:37.720 --> 0:10:40.120 where we're sitting at home late one night and she 0:10:40.280 --> 0:10:44.200 just absolutely Interrogates Father henry about this because she's, like 0:10:44.200 --> 0:10:45.880 If jad does, this then he's going to want to 0:10:45.920 --> 0:10:47.760 raise the kids in the. Church and we had you 0:10:47.880 --> 0:10:50.880 at the, time two little, boys and obviously loved them 0:10:50.960 --> 0:10:53.280 very much and didn't want anything like this to happen to. 0:10:53.320 --> 0:10:57.040 Them And Father henry later would describe it as the 0:10:57.040 --> 0:10:59.800 most difficult set of questions he's ever faced his entire. 0:10:59.840 --> 0:11:04.600 Life but again his point was if you read The, 0:11:04.600 --> 0:11:08.160 bible like if you read the foundational text of The christian, 0:11:08.240 --> 0:11:11.880 faith it tells you That god works through humans who 0:11:11.880 --> 0:11:15.360 are deeply, imperfect who are murderers and liars and all 0:11:15.440 --> 0:11:18.960 manner of bad, things and it's kind of one of 0:11:19.000 --> 0:11:23.079 these very unique but also you, know requires some humility 0:11:23.120 --> 0:11:26.280 to believe in That god works through imperfect. People and 0:11:26.320 --> 0:11:28.920 so the argument is not that The church is. Perfect 0:11:29.240 --> 0:11:31.760 the argument is not that the church always succeeds in 0:11:31.800 --> 0:11:35.320 its effort to help people and to serve. People the, argument, 0:11:35.400 --> 0:11:39.160 though is that this, institution in its very imperfect, way 0:11:39.800 --> 0:11:43.160 does reveal something About Jesus christ and his love for. 0:11:43.240 --> 0:11:45.160 People and you have to be able to accept the 0:11:45.160 --> 0:11:47.080 good and the bad and the same way that you 0:11:47.080 --> 0:11:48.640 have to be able to read The bible and, say, 0:11:48.679 --> 0:11:52.520 Well King david was this terrible, guy and yet he 0:11:52.720 --> 0:11:56.440 was the chosen person to kind of Implement god's kingdom 0:11:56.800 --> 0:11:59.960 at that time in. History and that is an interesting, Place. 0:12:00.640 --> 0:12:02.880 Hugh i've always been fascinated by, this by just the 0:12:02.880 --> 0:12:06.360 philosophy of. It That god doesn't sort of, say, Oh 0:12:06.440 --> 0:12:08.520 i'm going to come in and make everybody, perfect and 0:12:08.559 --> 0:12:10.520 everybody who serves me is going to be. Perfect he 0:12:10.559 --> 0:12:13.560 makes a much different claim about human, beings that he 0:12:13.760 --> 0:12:17.240 is the one True, god that his grace can transform, 0:12:17.320 --> 0:12:19.840 people but that he's going to work through these incredibly 0:12:19.880 --> 0:12:23.640 imperfect people who constantly fail to follow. HIM i think 0:12:23.640 --> 0:12:25.920 for a lot of people they say that's, Absurd but for, 0:12:26.000 --> 0:12:28.240 ME i, say that actually fits with the human nature 0:12:28.280 --> 0:12:29.319 As i've encountered. 0:12:29.360 --> 0:12:33.040 It, now if it's, persuasive if you adopt an intellectual 0:12:33.040 --> 0:12:36.719 approach To catholicism or To christianity in the, beginning and 0:12:37.160 --> 0:12:40.040 work through the various writers that you, do you'll get. 0:12:40.040 --> 0:12:42.120 There BEFORE i go back to, THAT i want to 0:12:42.160 --> 0:12:45.160 ask you about your level of. PRACTICE i know you've been, 0:12:45.240 --> 0:12:48.240 baptized you've had your first, communion you've had your first. 0:12:48.280 --> 0:12:50.680 Confession did you get, confirmed Mister Vice? 0:12:50.679 --> 0:12:55.120 President, well it's a good, Question. HUGH i, MEAN i 0:12:55.200 --> 0:12:57.880 believe that that happened as part of getting, baptized BECAUSE 0:12:57.880 --> 0:13:00.520 i had never been baptized, before and SO i actually 0:13:00.559 --> 0:13:04.080 didn't do a first confession because as you, know you, 0:13:04.120 --> 0:13:07.320 know when you do the, baptism if you've never been baptized, 0:13:07.360 --> 0:13:09.760 before that kind of washes away all those, sins and 0:13:09.840 --> 0:13:12.720 so the first CONFESSION i did was probably, ever you, 0:13:12.720 --> 0:13:16.440 know four or, five six weeks after, that so you, 0:13:16.480 --> 0:13:20.160 KNOW i basically just Followed Father henry's lead and did 0:13:20.240 --> 0:13:21.920 the things that he said THAT i needed to. Do 0:13:22.600 --> 0:13:25.920 and you, KNOW i what we do is we go 0:13:25.960 --> 0:13:29.679 to church every every. Week sometimes travel or the duties 0:13:29.720 --> 0:13:32.400 the vice president make that, harder but we still try 0:13:32.400 --> 0:13:34.400 to make it. Work and you, KNOW i try to 0:13:34.440 --> 0:13:36.640 go to confession every four, weeks every six, weeks AND 0:13:37.280 --> 0:13:40.440 i try to just follow The sacramental life as much 0:13:40.440 --> 0:13:43.240 AS i. Can AND i found that it has become 0:13:43.400 --> 0:13:46.160 easier over. Time and it's actually one of these things 0:13:46.160 --> 0:13:48.720 where you get better at it the more you practice at. 0:13:48.760 --> 0:13:50.800 It, oh the most winsent part of the book is 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:53.480 getting your three now four babies ready to go to 0:13:53.559 --> 0:13:56.560 church or smalls because they rig, all they, yell they, 0:13:56.600 --> 0:14:00.120 pinch they. PUNCH i was one of those. Families my 0:14:00.160 --> 0:14:02.480 mom somehow managed to get through my dad's The, presbyterians 0:14:02.480 --> 0:14:04.400 who didn't often go to church with. Us he was 0:14:04.440 --> 0:14:07.520 at his own. Church BUT i thought that was The 0:14:08.120 --> 0:14:11.080 Every catholic family is going to recognize that. Story so well. 0:14:11.080 --> 0:14:14.280 DONE i was, wondering, though if you had a confirmation 0:14:14.440 --> 0:14:16.720 name and you obviously don't recall it or you would 0:14:16.800 --> 0:14:17.160 know you were. 0:14:17.200 --> 0:14:21.840 Confirmed, well, yeah so my confirmation name Is. Augustine SO i, 0:14:21.840 --> 0:14:24.680 GUESS i, GUESS i GUESS i was. Confirmed but oh, 0:14:24.760 --> 0:14:27.680 yeah it's funny that that exact word just never came 0:14:27.760 --> 0:14:30.560 up in the process Where Father henry, said or we're, 0:14:30.560 --> 0:14:34.160 gonna we're gonna choose a confirmation. Name he just you, 0:14:34.160 --> 0:14:36.800 know we chose the Name augustine for my, baptism and 0:14:36.840 --> 0:14:37.640 that's that's what we. 0:14:37.680 --> 0:14:41.440 Did good. CHOICE i mean that that's. Reaching that puts 0:14:41.480 --> 0:14:45.040 a lot on your, shoulders that's. Reaching do you do 0:14:45.280 --> 0:14:46.000 things for, You? 0:14:46.160 --> 0:14:48.720 Hugh it demands a lot of, you high. 0:14:48.800 --> 0:14:51.880 Expectations you got to read confessions at least. Once. 0:14:51.960 --> 0:14:55.400 Here do you, observe for, example All Saints day and 0:14:55.480 --> 0:14:57.760 the weak of The octave Of All souls where you 0:14:57.840 --> 0:15:00.680 can for the benefit of The catholic ca the. Audience 0:15:00.720 --> 0:15:03.760 catholics believe in The church militant on, earth The church 0:15:03.800 --> 0:15:08.160 suffering In, purgatory and The church triumphant in, heaven and 0:15:08.200 --> 0:15:11.160 The church militant can help out the church suffering during 0:15:11.200 --> 0:15:14.080 The week Of All saints and The octave Of All 0:15:14.120 --> 0:15:17.160 saints In. November do you do that for, Say mama 0:15:17.320 --> 0:15:19.240 or any of your, family or do you do any 0:15:19.280 --> 0:15:21.520 of that? Work is that something that's come across your raidar. 0:15:21.640 --> 0:15:21.840 Yet. 0:15:22.560 --> 0:15:24.840 YEAH i MEAN i go to church during the required, 0:15:24.960 --> 0:15:28.960 days during During All, saints During All Saints', day and 0:15:29.240 --> 0:15:31.720 OBVIOUSLY i do the prayers for the, dead and that 0:15:31.760 --> 0:15:34.320 includes the prayers for a lot of the people That 0:15:34.600 --> 0:15:36.800 i'm in, love but also just general prayers for the. 0:15:36.840 --> 0:15:40.600 DEAD i try To you, know What Father henry has told, Me, 0:15:40.680 --> 0:15:43.520 hugh is that you try to treat the church as 0:15:43.560 --> 0:15:45.480 a witness and you try to follow as much as. 0:15:45.480 --> 0:15:47.920 Possible AND i don't want to say That i'm perfect about, 0:15:47.920 --> 0:15:50.840 it Because i've, found for, example you, know there are 0:15:50.880 --> 0:15:53.600 certain days of, Obligation, hugh WHERE i will find out 0:15:53.640 --> 0:15:55.720 afterwards that it was a day of. OBLIGATION i didn't even. 0:15:55.760 --> 0:15:56.320 Know it didn't even. 0:15:56.320 --> 0:15:58.200 Try it doesn't count as a. Sentence he didn't. Know, 0:15:58.440 --> 0:15:59.080 yeah it doesn't. 0:15:59.080 --> 0:16:02.560 Count, well that's, good that's good to. Know BUT i 0:16:02.600 --> 0:16:04.360 still try to go to confession and try to be 0:16:04.440 --> 0:16:07.520 responsive to. It and you, KNOW i just my attitude towards, It, 0:16:07.640 --> 0:16:10.160 hugh is you try to follow the lead of the 0:16:10.200 --> 0:16:12.480 faith as much as, possible recognizing you're going to be 0:16:12.520 --> 0:16:15.280 imperfect about. It there are a lot of THINGS i 0:16:15.320 --> 0:16:18.200 will Say hugh as a sort of evangelical convert To. 0:16:18.280 --> 0:16:21.240 Catholicism there's certain things about it THAT i, find you, 0:16:21.280 --> 0:16:24.600 know culturally. DISTINCT i mean even confession, right the idea 0:16:24.640 --> 0:16:27.200 that earlier on and talk to a stranger about every 0:16:27.200 --> 0:16:29.080 bad thing that you've done over the last four or six. 0:16:29.120 --> 0:16:32.440 WEEKS i find that a little. Unusual BUT i just 0:16:32.520 --> 0:16:34.800 try to follow the. Rules AND i find that the 0:16:34.840 --> 0:16:37.960 more THAT i follow the, rules the BETTER i get 0:16:38.000 --> 0:16:40.040 at following those, rules and the MORE i start to 0:16:40.040 --> 0:16:41.560 realize that there's a real purpose to. 0:16:41.600 --> 0:16:45.680 It now you are now used to Be President biden 0:16:45.920 --> 0:16:49.400 and before That Nancy. Pelosi you're now the highest ranking 0:16:49.720 --> 0:16:53.960 Secular catholic In, america and with that comes a certain 0:16:54.040 --> 0:16:57.360 obligation to conduct yourself as Every catholic would wish you 0:16:57.400 --> 0:17:00.480 would conduct. Yourself have you felt that pressure. 0:17:01.520 --> 0:17:03.560 All the, time all the? Time AND i fail all 0:17:03.600 --> 0:17:06.199 the time to? YOU i, mean, look it's you, know 0:17:06.359 --> 0:17:10.159 you have debates with people and you try to be the. 0:17:10.280 --> 0:17:13.320 CHARITABLE i certainly fail to be. Charitable and you try 0:17:13.359 --> 0:17:15.920 to make the best version of an argument as, possible 0:17:16.000 --> 0:17:19.679 and you, know you try to conduct yourself in public 0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:23.880 life with maximal patience and. HUMILITY i think you try 0:17:23.920 --> 0:17:26.359 to do the best you, can and you recognize that 0:17:26.440 --> 0:17:28.200 you fail from time to, time and when you try to, 0:17:28.200 --> 0:17:30.280 fail you try to do. Better AND i write about 0:17:30.280 --> 0:17:32.200 this in the Book You. Know there was the famous 0:17:32.320 --> 0:17:34.920 Cat lady comment that you, KNOW i got the. CAMPAIGN 0:17:35.040 --> 0:17:37.520 i got myself in trouble during the twenty twenty four, 0:17:37.600 --> 0:17:41.920 campaign AND i sort of realized that there were two problems. 0:17:41.960 --> 0:17:45.000 There Number, ONE i just pissed a lot of people, 0:17:45.040 --> 0:17:47.960 off so they weren't sort of really able to hear 0:17:48.040 --> 0:17:50.480 the message THAT i was trying to, make and that 0:17:50.600 --> 0:17:53.399 to me was maybe the most important. Thing IS i 0:17:53.480 --> 0:17:55.560 was trying to make an argument that was very, real 0:17:55.800 --> 0:17:58.560 which is That, AMERICA i, think in the last twenty thirty, 0:17:58.640 --> 0:18:02.639 years has become more hostile and our leadership has become 0:18:02.760 --> 0:18:05.479 more blind to the plight of young. FAMILIES i think 0:18:05.520 --> 0:18:09.439 that's why THE covid thing was such a, disaster is 0:18:09.480 --> 0:18:11.560 you had a lot of people in positions of leadership 0:18:11.600 --> 0:18:15.400 who they weren't asking themselves questions like what happens when 0:18:15.400 --> 0:18:18.959 we mask three year? Olds? Indefinitely what effect does this 0:18:19.000 --> 0:18:21.680 have on young families when we try to force kids 0:18:21.720 --> 0:18:23.760 to sit at a computer screen instead of go to the. 0:18:23.760 --> 0:18:27.199 CLASSROOM i JUST i felt there was an important point to. 0:18:27.200 --> 0:18:29.159 Make and part of the era THAT i made is 0:18:29.200 --> 0:18:31.359 THAT i didn't make it in the right. WAY i 0:18:31.480 --> 0:18:34.800 turned people off instead of actually leading to some insight 0:18:35.040 --> 0:18:37.200 in some. Wisdom so you AND. 0:18:37.119 --> 0:18:39.800 I when you lived In virginia belonged to the same, 0:18:39.880 --> 0:18:42.720 parish AND i always went to the seven Am. MASS 0:18:42.720 --> 0:18:44.840 i think you rolled in at nine thirty or. ELEVEN 0:18:44.880 --> 0:18:47.000 i never crossed paths with you, there BUT i knew 0:18:47.000 --> 0:18:47.360 it was your. 0:18:47.440 --> 0:18:50.199 Church, also we try to do the eight. 0:18:50.320 --> 0:18:52.000 Thirty, OKAY i was at. 0:18:52.000 --> 0:18:55.320 Seven no, music Bad catholic music drives me, Crazy so 0:18:55.359 --> 0:18:59.160 it's a silent. Mass but on in that church Is Mark. 0:18:59.200 --> 0:19:02.159 Tison yesterday it took. It took a. 0:19:02.280 --> 0:19:05.000 Punch At mark. ONLINE i did in the burrito. 0:19:05.119 --> 0:19:08.640 Thing So i'm, curious do you ever regret that night 0:19:08.720 --> 0:19:11.400 that you took a punch at a Fellow catholic in your. 0:19:11.400 --> 0:19:14.840 Parish you know it was a joke. YOU i think 0:19:14.840 --> 0:19:17.840 that way at which you're you're, allowed you're allowed to 0:19:17.960 --> 0:19:19.879 you're allowed to punch, back and you're allowed to be 0:19:20.040 --> 0:19:22.720 a little bit. Humorous i'm sure it was not as 0:19:22.800 --> 0:19:25.560 chteritable AS i should have. Been but you know what 0:19:25.560 --> 0:19:28.800 what they. Is, Look i'm sure that he's a Good. 0:19:28.840 --> 0:19:31.640 CATHOLIC i certainly wish him the. BEST i think he's 0:19:31.680 --> 0:19:34.160 been a little bit unfair to me over the last 0:19:34.240 --> 0:19:36.240 couple of, weeks and SO i decided to hit back 0:19:36.280 --> 0:19:40.119 with a little bit of. SPICE i will say that 0:19:40.480 --> 0:19:43.719 if if, you if you read The, gospel you Know 0:19:43.880 --> 0:19:48.560 jesus has remarkable. Humility he also has a remarkable way with, 0:19:48.680 --> 0:19:53.359 words and So i'm always going to fall short of that. 0:19:53.440 --> 0:19:55.679 Example BUT i don't think that there's anything wrong with 0:19:55.760 --> 0:19:59.439 being a little spicy from time to. Time and you, 0:19:59.480 --> 0:20:01.840 know maybe in two years you'll all look back and, 0:20:01.880 --> 0:20:03.399 SAY i WISH i hadn't said, That but right NOW 0:20:03.440 --> 0:20:04.320 i feel pretty good about. 0:20:04.320 --> 0:20:06.680 That, Okay, okay. 0:20:06.560 --> 0:20:08.600 That's not going to be in that. CONFESSION i want 0:20:08.600 --> 0:20:10.920 to cover two big. Things one of the best lines 0:20:10.960 --> 0:20:13.440 in the, book one of the jobs of The christian, 0:20:13.520 --> 0:20:17.359 Statesman you're, right is to preserve the social cohesion that 0:20:17.440 --> 0:20:22.240 makes charity and generosity. Possible that is an ideal that's 0:20:22.280 --> 0:20:25.560 pretty hard to. Reach charity and generosity is something that 0:20:25.600 --> 0:20:28.400 should be expected of each. Person how do you try 0:20:28.480 --> 0:20:29.240 and do that. 0:20:31.160 --> 0:20:34.000 WELL i think one of the Things hugh is is 0:20:34.560 --> 0:20:37.760 you have to have an immigration policy that promotes social. 0:20:37.760 --> 0:20:41.320 Cohesion you, know when you send your kid to, school 0:20:41.480 --> 0:20:43.879 you want them to share the same language with the 0:20:43.880 --> 0:20:45.720 people that are in that. Classroom you want them to 0:20:45.800 --> 0:20:47.679 have something in common with the people that are in that. 0:20:47.720 --> 0:20:51.399 Classroom AND i do think that's possible with the tradition 0:20:51.480 --> 0:20:54.359 of immigration like The United states Of america. Has but 0:20:54.920 --> 0:20:57.040 one of the Criticisms i've had of some of the 0:20:57.119 --> 0:21:01.400 church leadership that's attacked our immigration. Policy and Again i'm 0:21:01.400 --> 0:21:04.560 not saying that we're always, perfect but the simple reality 0:21:04.640 --> 0:21:07.160 is that when you have too many immigrants who come 0:21:07.200 --> 0:21:10.359 in too, quickly with no proper procedure and no proper, 0:21:10.480 --> 0:21:14.639 vetting it actually does erode social. Trust it erodes the 0:21:14.760 --> 0:21:18.520 very foundation of cohesion that allows us to be generous 0:21:18.560 --> 0:21:21.080 to the poor and to ensure that you, know poor 0:21:21.160 --> 0:21:24.800 kids In america don't go hungry and don't lack you, 0:21:24.800 --> 0:21:28.159 know medical. Treatment those are important and good, things but 0:21:28.400 --> 0:21:32.159 those things exist on a foundation of social trust that 0:21:32.320 --> 0:21:35.360 sky high immigration actually. Erodes and So i've actually made 0:21:35.400 --> 0:21:37.760 this point in some of my conversations with The catholic 0:21:37.840 --> 0:21:41.800 leadership who criticized their immigration. POLICIES i, said, guys, look you, 0:21:41.840 --> 0:21:45.800 Know i'm all for being, charitable And i'm all for you, 0:21:45.840 --> 0:21:48.040 know you guys have a moral, witness And i'm not 0:21:48.040 --> 0:21:51.159 going to tell you shouldn't exercise that moral. Witness but 0:21:51.200 --> 0:21:54.080 you've got to recognize that our immigration policy is geared 0:21:54.480 --> 0:21:57.399 not just towards law and, order but towards ensuring That 0:21:57.480 --> 0:22:01.320 america has a functioning social. Feats you can't do that 0:22:01.400 --> 0:22:03.600 with too much and too rapid demographic. 0:22:03.680 --> 0:22:05.040 CHANGE i thought it. 0:22:04.960 --> 0:22:07.560 Was well argued in the, book AND i encourage people 0:22:07.600 --> 0:22:09.840 to read. That here's the most delicate AND i want 0:22:09.880 --> 0:22:11.879 to make SURE i put this the right. Way Ariel 0:22:11.920 --> 0:22:14.720 whitman will be on Later today's An israeli blogger and 0:22:15.040 --> 0:22:17.040 podcaster That i've been on his. PROGRAM i have a 0:22:17.040 --> 0:22:19.720 lot Of israelis on the. Show Haveviv Ready gore and 0:22:19.760 --> 0:22:21.480 Meet segahal and The Dave yea BECAUSE i want to 0:22:21.480 --> 0:22:24.200 figure out what they. Think there is a recurring. Thing 0:22:24.359 --> 0:22:28.000 they are afraid that, you YOU Jd vans are Anti 0:22:28.119 --> 0:22:30.440 israel or Anti, semitic AND i tell, them, no, no, no. 0:22:30.440 --> 0:22:32.680 No i've talked to the vice president since he ran 0:22:32.760 --> 0:22:35.399 for The. Senate you are getting that. Wrong part of 0:22:35.440 --> 0:22:38.920 that is The Catholic church's. Tradition you. Know John paul 0:22:38.960 --> 0:22:42.240 in two thousand went To jerusalem to make a. Tonement 0:22:42.320 --> 0:22:45.640 benedict wrote a book in twenty eleven, saying we are 0:22:45.720 --> 0:22:48.880 sorry because we caused the. Pogrims we've got a special 0:22:48.920 --> 0:22:51.800 obligation of The. Jews BUT i tell them that's not 0:22:51.960 --> 0:22:55.040 The vice. President are you frustrated by? That have you 0:22:55.119 --> 0:22:58.960 heard that suspicion that you're Anti, israel Anti, jewish Anti, 0:22:58.960 --> 0:23:00.560 semitic and what do you do about? 0:23:00.560 --> 0:23:00.720 It? 0:23:01.600 --> 0:23:04.639 Yeah i've certainly heard that, Criticism. HUGH i, MEAN i 0:23:04.720 --> 0:23:08.160 obviously think that it's. Unfair DO i AM i frustrated by? 0:23:08.160 --> 0:23:10.560 IT i mean, NO i think people are entitled to their, 0:23:10.560 --> 0:23:12.919 opinion AND i just have to do as good of 0:23:12.960 --> 0:23:15.960 a job AS i, can recognizing my. IMPERFECTIONS i have 0:23:16.000 --> 0:23:17.400 to do as good of a job AS i can 0:23:17.440 --> 0:23:20.320 and actually articulating WHAT i think and WHAT i. Believe 0:23:20.960 --> 0:23:25.360 and you, know my, Argument hugh On israel is, one 0:23:25.720 --> 0:23:27.960 it's a great. COUNTRY i love the. COUNTRY i love 0:23:28.040 --> 0:23:29.640 a lot of the people in. It some very very 0:23:29.640 --> 0:23:33.600 dear friends who are. THERE i also recognize that there 0:23:33.600 --> 0:23:36.720 are times when a Given israeli government is going to 0:23:36.760 --> 0:23:38.840 have interests that are different from The United states Of. 0:23:38.880 --> 0:23:42.240 America AND i think That, hugh a lot of young, 0:23:42.280 --> 0:23:46.000 people in particular Young, republicans but young people everywhere are 0:23:46.080 --> 0:23:50.399 looking at THE Us israel relationship and it's, really as you, Know, 0:23:50.520 --> 0:23:54.199 hugh built on a foundation of seventy eighty years of 0:23:54.359 --> 0:23:57.679 common values and common. Interests BUT i also think that 0:23:57.760 --> 0:24:02.400 sometimes when people defend The United States israel, relationship it's 0:24:02.520 --> 0:24:05.800 very easy to get trapped in slogans and you're the same, 0:24:05.920 --> 0:24:08.640 phrases and those phrases lose their. Meaning and so What 0:24:08.720 --> 0:24:11.639 i've tried to do is, say when we have shared 0:24:11.680 --> 0:24:14.400 interest with The, israelis they're a great partner and we're 0:24:14.400 --> 0:24:16.600 going to work. Together and when we don't have shared 0:24:16.600 --> 0:24:19.240 interests with The, israelis we're going to pursue our interests, 0:24:19.280 --> 0:24:22.440 distinctly with no, animosity of, course in the same way 0:24:22.440 --> 0:24:24.840 that we would do with The french of The, british 0:24:24.840 --> 0:24:28.640 two other allies where we have a great historical tradition 0:24:29.080 --> 0:24:32.760 of shared interests and shared. Values SO i really think 0:24:32.800 --> 0:24:37.040 that it's important for us to articulate why we work 0:24:37.080 --> 0:24:39.440 with the, country why we don't work with the. Country 0:24:39.800 --> 0:24:41.960 AND i think that there are Some israelis who are 0:24:42.000 --> 0:24:45.680 just so, used at least some people In israeli media 0:24:46.119 --> 0:24:48.960 who are so used to politicians just taking as a 0:24:49.000 --> 0:24:52.680 given That america And israel always have shared, interests WHEN 0:24:52.720 --> 0:24:54.960 i think the reality is that we often have shared 0:24:55.000 --> 0:24:56.959 interest but we don't. Always AND i don't think that 0:24:56.960 --> 0:24:59.000 makes me Anti, semitic AND i don't think it makes 0:24:59.040 --> 0:25:00.520 me anti israel JUST i think it makes me. 0:25:00.600 --> 0:25:01.600 Honest it. 0:25:01.640 --> 0:25:03.760 Doesn't and by the, way that is exactly the answer 0:25:03.840 --> 0:25:05.679 you gave to me when you were running For SENATE 0:25:05.840 --> 0:25:07.600 i don't know how many years, ago so you haven't, 0:25:07.680 --> 0:25:09.880 changed AND i that's WHAT i explained to My israeli. 0:25:09.880 --> 0:25:12.240 FRIENDS i want to close with a, suggestion Mister Vice 0:25:12.280 --> 0:25:14.879 president a the end of your book about my former 0:25:14.880 --> 0:25:17.040 Colleague Charlie. KIRK i was not close to him the 0:25:17.040 --> 0:25:20.000 way you. Are But I'm i'm the next generation older than. 0:25:20.040 --> 0:25:22.120 You you could be my, kids So i'm not. Surprised 0:25:22.119 --> 0:25:24.400 but it's a very generous thing that you wrote About 0:25:24.480 --> 0:25:26.080 charlie and what he was talking to you, about SO 0:25:26.080 --> 0:25:28.199 i could encourage people to read. That but there are 0:25:28.240 --> 0:25:30.359 a lot of Young catholic writers out, there and you 0:25:30.440 --> 0:25:34.040 mentioned rothoutit And Rod dreher is Not catholic But. Orthodox 0:25:34.240 --> 0:25:36.280 but you Got Ryan, anderson and you got people a 0:25:36.320 --> 0:25:39.760 little bit older Like Arthur brooks and And Frand mayer 0:25:39.800 --> 0:25:42.800 And Charles. Shape would you ever convene the younger ones 0:25:43.080 --> 0:25:45.840 and sort of get them talking about the church because 0:25:45.840 --> 0:25:49.320 you've got this great convening authority as the vice. President 0:25:49.400 --> 0:25:51.560 nobody turns down an invitation to come chat with the 0:25:51.960 --> 0:25:53.159 with the vice president about the. 0:25:53.240 --> 0:25:55.120 Church is that part of the? Job do you? Think? 0:25:55.800 --> 0:25:58.639 Absolutely let's let's do, It hugh AND i. WILL i 0:25:58.640 --> 0:26:00.400 will talk to you. Offline we'll get a good group. 0:26:00.440 --> 0:26:02.680 Together i'd love to get everybody together and chat about. 0:26:02.680 --> 0:26:05.399 Things i'll start With Ryan anderson and everyone out there 0:26:05.400 --> 0:26:08.280 listening start With. Communion it's a fabulous book and it's 0:26:08.400 --> 0:26:11.000 very well, read Mister Vice. President thanks for the extra time. 0:26:11.000 --> 0:26:12.400 TODAY i appreciate. It and a good. 0:26:12.400 --> 0:26:14.960 Week absolutely good to talk with. 0:26:15.000 --> 0:26:15.680 You thank. 0:26:15.720 --> 0:26:20.200 You my conversation now With Michelle, tafoya candidate For United 0:26:20.240 --> 0:26:23.119 States senate In. Minnesota, michelle good to see you. Again 0:26:23.600 --> 0:26:25.679 it's been a so cool day on the UU at. 0:26:25.720 --> 0:26:28.200 Show i'm talking with you With lisa dumuthe With Tom, 0:26:28.240 --> 0:26:31.480 wyler But i'm starting with you because voting starts. Today 0:26:31.480 --> 0:26:32.359 how do you feel about your? 0:26:32.440 --> 0:26:34.840 RACE i feel. 0:26:34.840 --> 0:26:37.639 GOOD i feel very, good But i'm not one to 0:26:37.680 --> 0:26:39.000 count my chickens before they. 0:26:39.040 --> 0:26:39.280 Hatch. 0:26:39.320 --> 0:26:43.640 Here that the the the Primaries, tuesday and we've been 0:26:43.680 --> 0:26:46.880 doing everything we can to finish strong through the, tape 0:26:47.119 --> 0:26:49.280 and that's what we're going to keep. Doing but at this, 0:26:49.359 --> 0:26:53.240 Point poland looks. Good but you, know Sometimes poland can fool. 0:26:53.280 --> 0:26:55.240 You, okay let's look ahead for a. 0:26:55.280 --> 0:26:58.200 Moment if you are the, nominee how are you gonna 0:26:58.200 --> 0:27:01.399 Beatte peggy? Flanagain because she's as radical as Elsiad but 0:27:01.480 --> 0:27:02.159 people don't know. 0:27:02.240 --> 0:27:05.919 That we've got to point that out to, everybody and 0:27:06.040 --> 0:27:09.320 actually some people do know. It, look she's the sitting lieutenant. 0:27:09.359 --> 0:27:11.359 Governor she's been at the right hand Of Tim walls 0:27:11.359 --> 0:27:14.200 for these last eight, years and she's proven to be 0:27:14.520 --> 0:27:16.720 maybe even more radical than he, is but at least 0:27:16.720 --> 0:27:18.960 so at least as. Much so it's going to be 0:27:19.000 --> 0:27:21.520 our job to really point out what that would mean 0:27:21.640 --> 0:27:23.639 for this state if she were to represent us in The, 0:27:23.680 --> 0:27:28.440 Senate so that's our. Job i've already talked To democrats 0:27:28.520 --> 0:27:30.320 who are willing to come over if she is the. 0:27:30.320 --> 0:27:34.640 Nominee SO i think we have a really good message 0:27:34.680 --> 0:27:36.399 and a great contrast to. 0:27:36.480 --> 0:27:40.560 Sell how does it work with the fraud? 0:27:40.640 --> 0:27:44.399 Investigation Do minnesotans like to talk about that or are 0:27:44.400 --> 0:27:47.680 they embarrassed by the fact that their state was hoodwinked 0:27:47.680 --> 0:27:48.399 out of billions of? 0:27:48.400 --> 0:27:51.760 Dollars depends what's side of the aisle there. 0:27:51.760 --> 0:27:54.159 On you, know you've Got Keith ellison And Tim walls 0:27:54.160 --> 0:27:56.639 refusing to talk about it at. All even these Two 0:27:56.680 --> 0:27:59.879 democrat candidates FOR Us senate don't talk about the. Fraud 0:28:00.000 --> 0:28:02.680 they don't acknowledge, it they don't address, it they don't 0:28:02.720 --> 0:28:08.399 ask for corrections or repercussions or. Accountability so that is a. 0:28:08.440 --> 0:28:11.240 Shame i'm willing to talk about it all day long 0:28:11.320 --> 0:28:14.080 because it really propelled me to want to run for this. 0:28:14.240 --> 0:28:16.000 Office, so, look it is. 0:28:16.119 --> 0:28:20.200 Bad Most minnesotans are terribly embarrassed by. It they're embarrassed By, 0:28:20.240 --> 0:28:23.560 Walls they're embarrassed By Keith ellison and the way he's handled. 0:28:23.560 --> 0:28:26.560 This and it's amazing to, Me, hugh THAT i talk 0:28:26.640 --> 0:28:29.200 to people who are you, know it's, summertime they're, traveling 0:28:29.640 --> 0:28:31.480 no matter where they, go if it's out of state 0:28:31.560 --> 0:28:34.160 or out of the, country they are embarrassed to say 0:28:34.160 --> 0:28:37.760 they are From minnesota because we've had years and years of. 0:28:37.800 --> 0:28:40.600 This now we've been at the epicenter of a lot of. 0:28:40.640 --> 0:28:45.160 Tumult but this was an unforced, error a self inflicted, 0:28:45.160 --> 0:28:48.280 wound this, fraud and people are angry and they want 0:28:48.280 --> 0:28:52.560 to see, accountability not just for the criminals who stole the, 0:28:52.600 --> 0:28:55.320 money but for the people who enabled. It and we 0:28:55.400 --> 0:28:55.840 hope that's. 0:28:55.880 --> 0:28:59.840 Coming talk to me about The somali Community Smalley american 0:29:00.080 --> 0:29:03.960 in recent arrivals From. Somalia are they active in? Politics 0:29:04.000 --> 0:29:07.040 are they embarrassed by the scandal which has been predominantly 0:29:07.040 --> 0:29:07.480 within their. 0:29:07.480 --> 0:29:11.480 COMMUNITY i some, Are some are ashamed of. That you, 0:29:11.520 --> 0:29:14.040 know they've come here as honest. Brokers they want to 0:29:14.280 --> 0:29:17.239 help build the, community they want to live. Here but 0:29:17.400 --> 0:29:20.680 there's a lot of not talking about. It, again when 0:29:20.720 --> 0:29:24.040 you talk to Ilhan, omar who is a very strong 0:29:24.520 --> 0:29:27.720 representative of that, community she doesn't want to talk about. 0:29:27.720 --> 0:29:31.480 It she'd rather focus on other. Things so it's it's, 0:29:31.600 --> 0:29:34.800 difficult you, KNOW i don't want to paint the whole 0:29:34.800 --> 0:29:38.200 community with a broad, brushstroke but it is in the 0:29:38.240 --> 0:29:42.120 paperwork that the vast majority of especially feeding our, future 0:29:42.120 --> 0:29:45.320 but even some of these medicaid fraud items were committed 0:29:45.520 --> 0:29:48.960 by this community and money being shipped back To. Somalia 0:29:49.520 --> 0:29:54.680 that's in the. Paperwork that's not an, opinion So i've address. 0:29:54.760 --> 0:29:57.840 It i've been broadcasting from a And tobata The patriot 0:29:57.920 --> 0:30:00.400 for twenty seven. Years i'm on In, duluth live in the. 0:30:00.440 --> 0:30:02.520 State there are a lot of great concerts, there Like 0:30:02.600 --> 0:30:04.920 Hender rocker And Scott johnson and the people at Power. 0:30:04.920 --> 0:30:08.320 Line but there's also The strip and it's just the 0:30:08.400 --> 0:30:11.200 left wingiest left wing newspaper in the. World are they 0:30:11.600 --> 0:30:13.720 trying to kill? You are They what are they doing to? 0:30:13.720 --> 0:30:17.880 YOU i don't they haven't tried to kill me. Yet 0:30:18.480 --> 0:30:22.480 but you approach them with a level of mistrust because 0:30:22.480 --> 0:30:25.280 they don't represent things. WELL a perfect example when you 0:30:25.320 --> 0:30:27.760 talk about this fraud last, year at the end of the, 0:30:27.840 --> 0:30:30.040 year you, know all the papers AND tv shows do 0:30:30.120 --> 0:30:32.080 their end of the year's. Story what were the biggest 0:30:32.120 --> 0:30:35.520 stories of twenty twenty? Five they did not mention fraud 0:30:35.600 --> 0:30:38.280 in The Star. Tribune, wow that's that's. 0:30:38.280 --> 0:30:39.280 Just just almost. 0:30:40.080 --> 0:30:43.640 Laughable actually it is. Laughable it's not almost. Laughable everyone 0:30:43.640 --> 0:30:45.520 looked at that and, said, well how could that not 0:30:45.640 --> 0:30:48.040 be one of the biggest stories of twenty twenty. Five 0:30:48.600 --> 0:30:50.640 so you, know we are careful and there are a 0:30:50.680 --> 0:30:53.800 lot of conservatives who are, very very reluctant to talk 0:30:53.840 --> 0:30:55.840 to a lot of the media outlets. Here but, LOOK 0:30:56.320 --> 0:30:58.680 i want to get my message. Out you're looking At Nick, 0:30:58.720 --> 0:31:00.560 shirley who did a lot of the work for, them 0:31:00.880 --> 0:31:03.000 and if not for that twenty four year, OLD i 0:31:03.000 --> 0:31:05.360 think he. Is now you got to wonder you talked 0:31:05.360 --> 0:31:09.520 About John, hinderocker THE ceo of The center for The American, 0:31:09.520 --> 0:31:12.440 experiment and his group has done a ton of research 0:31:12.480 --> 0:31:14.760 on this fraud and they're doing a fraud tour this 0:31:14.760 --> 0:31:15.480 summer where you. 0:31:15.400 --> 0:31:16.040 Get to connect the. 0:31:16.080 --> 0:31:20.520 Dots but Until Nick shirley made it really simple and 0:31:20.640 --> 0:31:25.360 showed everyone with his phone camera the quality. 0:31:25.040 --> 0:31:29.320 Leering, center clearing, center, breaking the liaring. 0:31:29.600 --> 0:31:29.880 Center. 0:31:29.960 --> 0:31:32.920 Yep, Yeah, Well, MICHELLE i want to close with. It 0:31:32.960 --> 0:31:33.280 what's your? 0:31:33.320 --> 0:31:35.280 Website if people want to get involved in help, you 0:31:35.360 --> 0:31:37.880 whether up In minnesota or across The United, states what's the? 0:31:37.880 --> 0:31:42.480 Website It's Michelle tafoya dot. Com it's really, Simple, michelle 0:31:42.480 --> 0:31:45.040 with ONE L T a F o Y. A i 0:31:45.040 --> 0:31:46.800 imagine if people you know put it in their search, 0:31:46.840 --> 0:31:49.200 engine they'll be directed to. It but we would love to. 0:31:49.240 --> 0:31:52.840 Help we want To this is a great, State. Hugh 0:31:52.880 --> 0:31:55.600 you know that you've been. Here there's so much to 0:31:55.640 --> 0:31:58.040 love About. Minnesota we want to get it back on 0:31:58.160 --> 0:31:58.840 track and. 0:31:59.160 --> 0:31:59.640 We can do. 0:31:59.720 --> 0:32:02.840 This you can be the first campaign in twenty. Years 0:32:03.080 --> 0:32:06.000 Norm coleman was the Last republican senator for the state Of. 0:32:06.040 --> 0:32:07.560 Minnesota we're going to break that. 0:32:07.640 --> 0:32:08.760 Streak we're gonna do it. 0:32:08.800 --> 0:32:12.080 Well if you're, Close i'll come to The fair. AGAIN 0:32:12.080 --> 0:32:14.120 i hadn't broadcast from The fair in probably five, years 0:32:14.120 --> 0:32:15.560 But i'm sure you'll be living there at the end 0:32:15.560 --> 0:32:18.000 of the. Month Michelle, tafoya good to see you. Again 0:32:18.080 --> 0:32:22.240 michelletafoya dot. Com we're Any Race. America I'm Hugh. Hewett 0:32:22.360 --> 0:32:24.880 it Is Minnesota day on The Huqwitt, show because they've 0:32:24.920 --> 0:32:27.840 begun voting there and they will wrap up On tuesday 0:32:27.880 --> 0:32:31.080 next in their governor and senator. Races i'm pleased to 0:32:31.120 --> 0:32:33.800 welcome The speaker of The Minnesota, House lisa De, muth 0:32:34.000 --> 0:32:37.480 who's running for. Governor, Welcome Madam. Speaker how goes the 0:32:37.520 --> 0:32:38.200 campaign Up? 0:32:38.240 --> 0:32:42.440 North, well great to have a conversation with, You, hugh 0:32:42.600 --> 0:32:45.120 and things are going very well in our race for. 0:32:45.200 --> 0:32:48.640 Governor this is my opportunity AS i run for, governor 0:32:48.960 --> 0:32:52.440 win the primary On, tuesday but to really Give minnesota 0:32:52.480 --> 0:32:56.040 a comeback that is so desperately needed here in our, 0:32:56.120 --> 0:32:58.800 state given all of the fraud and all of the 0:32:58.840 --> 0:33:02.040 failures that we have had Under democrat control here in 0:33:02.080 --> 0:33:02.840 the state for too. 0:33:02.880 --> 0:33:07.000 Long your press office put out your statement today on illegal. 0:33:07.040 --> 0:33:09.800 Immigration why is that important to be putting out. 0:33:09.640 --> 0:33:10.400 A week before the? 0:33:10.560 --> 0:33:13.960 Vote you, know WHEN i look at the issues of 0:33:14.040 --> 0:33:18.240 illegal immigration, here especially in the state Of, MINNESOTA i 0:33:18.360 --> 0:33:22.080 have fought in my time in the, legislature specifically during 0:33:22.080 --> 0:33:25.000 my time As speaker of The, house to end some 0:33:25.160 --> 0:33:28.840 of the policies That democrats have put in place that 0:33:28.920 --> 0:33:32.880 has Made minnesota become a magnet for illegal immigration and. 0:33:33.120 --> 0:33:36.640 FRAUD i was able to end the taxpayer funding of 0:33:36.680 --> 0:33:40.160 illegal immigrant health. Care it was four times what have 0:33:40.280 --> 0:33:45.600 been projected Under democrat. Control and so making sure that 0:33:45.640 --> 0:33:49.880 we are following federal immigration laws is a priority for. 0:33:50.040 --> 0:33:53.320 Me and for the state Of minnesota to make sure 0:33:53.320 --> 0:33:57.760 that our taxpayer dollars are, safe that we're Providing minnesota 0:33:57.800 --> 0:34:01.960 benefits For. Minnesotans AND i do believe that we need 0:34:02.000 --> 0:34:05.680 to look at some changes with our federal immigration. Laws 0:34:05.920 --> 0:34:09.520 but offering amnesty such As Mike, lindell one of the 0:34:09.560 --> 0:34:13.360 Other republicans actually running for, governor an amnesty plan that 0:34:13.440 --> 0:34:16.360 he's put into, place that is not the answer For. 0:34:16.560 --> 0:34:19.759 Minnesota all, right, now tell me about how you would 0:34:19.840 --> 0:34:24.680 tackle the fraud dirigible that is hovering over the state Of. 0:34:24.719 --> 0:34:27.879 Minnesota if you're the, governor you, Know, Hugh. 0:34:28.960 --> 0:34:32.080 Fraud In minnesota has, exploded AND i would say that 0:34:32.120 --> 0:34:37.840 there has been incompetence after sixteen years Of democrat control 0:34:37.920 --> 0:34:40.759 here in the state Of, minnesota but especially under the 0:34:40.800 --> 0:34:44.960 Failed walls administration over the last eight. Years it is 0:34:45.000 --> 0:34:48.400 a complete failure and waste of our tax. Dollars for 0:34:48.520 --> 0:34:52.600 much too, long The minnesota media And democrats In minnesota 0:34:52.719 --> 0:34:57.359 would not take fraud. Seriously my time in the, LEGISLATURE 0:34:57.440 --> 0:34:59.319 i have pushed AND i was able to get through 0:34:59.360 --> 0:35:02.640 An office Of Inspectors. GENERAL i was able to put 0:35:02.719 --> 0:35:07.520 more whistleblower protections in but that was only after an independent, 0:35:07.680 --> 0:35:11.080 YouTuber Nick shirley came in at the end of last 0:35:11.160 --> 0:35:14.799 year and exploded what was known or what we As 0:35:14.840 --> 0:35:18.680 republicans that expected or thought was actually going on in our. 0:35:18.719 --> 0:35:23.319 State he exploded That democrats no longer could hide from. 0:35:23.360 --> 0:35:25.240 IT i put. 0:35:25.080 --> 0:35:29.239 Together a fraud prevention an agency oversight committee WHEN i 0:35:29.280 --> 0:35:33.239 Became speaker a year, ago and Again democrats can't hide 0:35:33.280 --> 0:35:35.440 from the fraud that they have allowed to go on 0:35:36.280 --> 0:35:36.719 under their. 0:35:36.760 --> 0:35:40.640 Watch all, right last, Question lisa De, Mute you And 0:35:40.680 --> 0:35:44.000 Mike lindell are running for the nomination to go Against Amy. 0:35:44.080 --> 0:35:47.359 Klobuchark why are you the better candidate to beat? Her 0:35:47.440 --> 0:35:49.680 she's going to be formidable in the general election just 0:35:49.719 --> 0:35:52.359 because she's been there. FOREVER i, mean she's been On 0:35:53.040 --> 0:35:56.600 minnesota's ballot forever and hadn't been county and then in The. 0:35:56.640 --> 0:35:59.239 Senate why are you better Than lindell to beat? 0:35:59.280 --> 0:36:02.440 HER i have the best chance of Beating Amy klobashar And. 0:36:02.520 --> 0:36:05.080 Hugh WHEN i got into this, RACE i never thought 0:36:05.080 --> 0:36:07.600 it was going to be. Easy But i'm also the 0:36:07.640 --> 0:36:10.719 one that led The republican caucus in The house to 0:36:10.960 --> 0:36:13.560 ending The democrat control in the. State in twenty twenty. 0:36:13.600 --> 0:36:16.640 Four the reason THAT i am better For minnesota IS 0:36:16.680 --> 0:36:20.920 i have proven. Leadership i've gone up Against democrats already 0:36:20.920 --> 0:36:24.400 in one with Becoming, speaker helping to end fraud or 0:36:24.400 --> 0:36:25.800 at least expose. 0:36:25.360 --> 0:36:27.520 It and there is more that needs to be. DONE 0:36:27.719 --> 0:36:28.200 i have the. 0:36:28.160 --> 0:36:31.640 Ability to work across the aisle because we've been in 0:36:31.680 --> 0:36:34.640 a tie in The house Of, representatives And i'm the 0:36:34.680 --> 0:36:37.719 best one to. Gain, yes The republican, votes but those 0:36:37.840 --> 0:36:41.960 independent votes or Those democrats that are tired of what 0:36:42.120 --> 0:36:45.600 has happened with their party here In minnesota and what 0:36:45.760 --> 0:36:48.680 has been allowed to go. On SO i am ready 0:36:48.719 --> 0:36:51.839 to win this primary On tuesday night and then go 0:36:51.920 --> 0:36:56.319 on and Give Amy Klobashar Senator klobshar the biggest fight 0:36:56.440 --> 0:36:58.200 For minnesota that she has ever. 0:36:58.239 --> 0:37:00.640 Seen what is your? 0:37:00.680 --> 0:37:02.960 Website your campaign website if people want to help you 0:37:03.080 --> 0:37:04.520 or sign up to get out the vote next? 0:37:04.520 --> 0:37:09.319 Week great for M n dot. Com that's L i 0:37:09.600 --> 0:37:13.680 S a F O r M n dot. Com please 0:37:13.760 --> 0:37:15.400 check it out and be involved in the. 0:37:15.440 --> 0:37:19.439 Process lisa formn dot. Com nice to meet, You LISA. 0:37:19.520 --> 0:37:22.640 D mute and good luck next. Week, uh don't go Anywhere. 0:37:22.640 --> 0:37:24.880 America i've got more coming. 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Program last TIME i talked to, 0:42:50.640 --> 0:42:52.759 YOU i think you were the Acting Assistant secretary Of 0:42:52.760 --> 0:42:57.120 defense for. Cybersecurity who recruited, you who recruited you to 0:42:57.200 --> 0:42:57.680 run for this? 0:42:57.760 --> 0:43:04.239 Thing, hey SO i ran last? Time who recruited? ME 0:43:04.920 --> 0:43:07.879 a bunch of local folks here In North carolina were 0:43:07.880 --> 0:43:12.120 looking at me as somebody who is a strong, conservative 0:43:12.239 --> 0:43:15.560 as a good background of national security. ECONOMICS i ran 0:43:15.640 --> 0:43:18.439 my own small, Business SO i got recruited last, time 0:43:18.520 --> 0:43:21.000 lost by a point and a, half and we got 0:43:21.000 --> 0:43:24.920 redistricted to a slightly More republican. District i'm not a, 0:43:25.000 --> 0:43:27.880 quitter couldn't walk away from this race and just fired 0:43:27.960 --> 0:43:30.600 up to. Go so kind of got recruited by the 0:43:30.640 --> 0:43:33.880 local folks who wanted to see a Strong republican run 0:43:34.160 --> 0:43:37.760 who understood the economy and was close To President. 0:43:37.800 --> 0:43:41.719 Trump, Now, COLONEL i believe the first district is the 0:43:41.760 --> 0:43:44.560 northern border Of North. Carolina how did they tweak your? 0:43:44.600 --> 0:43:50.520 Boundaries they added a few more southern counties so it 0:43:50.600 --> 0:43:54.440 goes all along the, beach and it added five, counties 0:43:54.520 --> 0:43:56.840 took away a couple more that were central in the, 0:43:58.080 --> 0:44:01.759 state and added some very conservative counties further down. 0:44:01.840 --> 0:44:03.239 South, oh very. 0:44:03.280 --> 0:44:06.400 Good we like me, Districting so tell us about your. 0:44:06.400 --> 0:44:08.400 Opponent we do just what the race is turning. 0:44:08.440 --> 0:44:13.120 On, HEY i think this race is going to turn 0:44:13.239 --> 0:44:16.680 on the fact that this district is a very poor 0:44:16.719 --> 0:44:19.759 district and it's been that way for. Decades it's Been 0:44:19.840 --> 0:44:22.440 democrat for a very long, time for, decades and it's 0:44:22.440 --> 0:44:24.799 been at the bottom of the poverty, level not just 0:44:24.880 --> 0:44:29.879 statewide but nationally for literally. Decades my opponent Is Don. 0:44:29.960 --> 0:44:32.879 Davis we call him do Nothing. Don he hasn't moved 0:44:32.920 --> 0:44:37.560 the needle at all on, prosperity on, business on, jobs 0:44:37.800 --> 0:44:40.920 on anything in the. District he's done just literally. Nothing 0:44:40.960 --> 0:44:43.479 we call him do Nothing. Don AND i think people 0:44:43.520 --> 0:44:45.960 are ready for a. Change the folks that are new 0:44:46.000 --> 0:44:49.319 in the district in Those republican counties are definitely not 0:44:49.400 --> 0:44:52.560 going to put up with, him AND i think folks 0:44:52.600 --> 0:44:56.359 throughout the district have realized nothing will get better as 0:44:56.400 --> 0:44:58.759 long as you've got A democrat Like Don davis in. 0:44:58.840 --> 0:45:02.720 Charge let's remember what is your website so that people 0:45:02.840 --> 0:45:05.520 can help you out with a contribution or volunteer. Time 0:45:05.560 --> 0:45:06.760 how do they find The dumouth? 0:45:06.840 --> 0:45:10.680 Campaign it's actually The buckout. 0:45:10.719 --> 0:45:17.600 Campaign but on, Sorry, laurie that's, okay that's. 0:45:17.600 --> 0:45:21.440 Okay, hey it's she's great, too by the, Way but 0:45:21.520 --> 0:45:24.560 It's Laurie buckout L A u R I e B 0:45:24.719 --> 0:45:28.080 u C k h O U t For congress dot. 0:45:28.120 --> 0:45:29.000 Com easy to. 0:45:29.040 --> 0:45:33.080 Find, YEAH i just had On lisa From minnesota right before. 0:45:33.080 --> 0:45:34.560 You that's WHY i was looking at my sheet AND 0:45:34.600 --> 0:45:37.239 i forgot it is. Candidate so let's focus On Lori. 0:45:37.360 --> 0:45:41.279 Buckout Colonel, Buckout, colonel you've been watching the current battle With. 0:45:41.320 --> 0:45:44.880 Iran you know what is involved with, this especially on 0:45:44.920 --> 0:45:49.280 the cyber. Side they're taking down some of our water quality. 0:45:49.440 --> 0:45:52.320 Programs do you think we're punching back in the cyber? 0:45:52.360 --> 0:45:53.560 Arena we just don't know about. 0:45:53.560 --> 0:45:59.360 It that's exactly the. Case you, know these programs are highly. 0:45:59.400 --> 0:46:02.520 Classifying you've got to have a need to, know and you, know, 0:46:02.600 --> 0:46:04.960 frankly the enemy doesn't need to know everything that we're. 0:46:04.960 --> 0:46:08.000 Doing they don't need to have our. TTPs they don't 0:46:08.040 --> 0:46:09.960 need to know every time that something happens that it 0:46:10.000 --> 0:46:13.080 is even necessarily us and that it can be attributed to. 0:46:13.200 --> 0:46:17.319 Us SO i know we're punching. BACK i know we're 0:46:17.320 --> 0:46:19.799 taking care of, business and, frankly the less a lot 0:46:19.880 --> 0:46:20.960 of folks know about, that the. 0:46:21.000 --> 0:46:22.520 Better i'll leave it at that. 0:46:22.600 --> 0:46:25.080 Then But Colonel buckett talked to us about the, district 0:46:25.120 --> 0:46:27.799 and if you've got a military, President i'm kind of 0:46:27.840 --> 0:46:30.879 amazed there's Any democrats From North carolina given the number 0:46:30.920 --> 0:46:33.440 of retirees you have from the military they're and active. 0:46:33.520 --> 0:46:39.120 Duty, yeah, absolutely so for. Starters there's over eighty thousand 0:46:39.239 --> 0:46:42.560 veterans in my, district and we have not been taking 0:46:42.600 --> 0:46:45.839 care of veterans very well in the. District President trump 0:46:45.880 --> 0:46:48.319 has made a big, difference but we can definitely do 0:46:48.400 --> 0:46:54.480 better in my district. Alone i've got The Coast guard 0:46:54.480 --> 0:46:58.000 base In Elizabeth city And i've got Cherry Port Marine 0:46:58.000 --> 0:47:01.439 corps Air, Station so those are the two big ones 0:47:01.480 --> 0:47:03.799 THAT i Have Camp La june is just right out 0:47:03.840 --> 0:47:06.920 of my, district And Seymour Air Force base is just 0:47:07.000 --> 0:47:09.839 right out of my, district so we dry in retirees 0:47:09.840 --> 0:47:12.439 from both of those. Areas there's a lot of work 0:47:12.440 --> 0:47:15.839 to be done in supporting both of those installations and 0:47:16.000 --> 0:47:19.640 making sure that we're bringing jobs. There we're bringing more programs, 0:47:19.680 --> 0:47:23.000 there especially In Marine. Corps Air Station Cherry point is 0:47:23.040 --> 0:47:28.680 a fantastic launching point For atlantic operations and a Fantastic 0:47:28.760 --> 0:47:32.160 East coast launching point for, operations so we want to 0:47:32.200 --> 0:47:34.960 bring more capabilities down there to show this is a 0:47:35.000 --> 0:47:36.840 great place for the military to do. 0:47:36.960 --> 0:47:39.880 Business where did you spend most of your, Career, Colonel 0:47:39.960 --> 0:47:41.880 was it In North carolina or all over the? 0:47:41.920 --> 0:47:45.719 World, no pretty much all over the, World SO i 0:47:45.760 --> 0:47:47.520 was an army. BRAT i grew up all over the 0:47:47.520 --> 0:47:52.360 place to include In. Europe was actually born In. Virginia 0:47:52.400 --> 0:47:54.439 when my dad was at The. Pentagon he Was World 0:47:54.520 --> 0:47:57.160 war Two, Korea. Vietnam my mother was A World war 0:47:57.200 --> 0:48:01.399 two the light. Nurse she was pretty bad, Too so 0:48:01.600 --> 0:48:03.160 dad retired WHEN i was a little girl in The 0:48:03.200 --> 0:48:06.520 Cenandeau valley and THEN i went to school ON rotc. 0:48:06.680 --> 0:48:09.879 Scholarship got sent all, over spent time in The Middle, 0:48:09.920 --> 0:48:13.719 east tours In, iraq a lot of time In, europe 0:48:14.080 --> 0:48:16.799 and a little time IN dc WHEN i retired out 0:48:16.840 --> 0:48:18.719 of The. Pentagon so does do? 0:48:18.800 --> 0:48:21.319 Nothing don debate. YOU i doubt he really would want 0:48:21.320 --> 0:48:22.880 to do, That colonel Buck, OUT. 0:48:24.960 --> 0:48:27.960 I don't think, so you. KNOW i, Mean i'm pretty 0:48:27.960 --> 0:48:30.440 on to go after anything. THERE i feel very comfortable 0:48:30.760 --> 0:48:33.960 with the, issues of, course national, security global, issues but 0:48:34.160 --> 0:48:36.839 very comfortable with issues in the district and pointing out 0:48:36.840 --> 0:48:39.480 the facts that this district needs. Help it needs a 0:48:39.480 --> 0:48:41.680 lot of. Work it needs somebody who's got some, energy 0:48:42.000 --> 0:48:44.960 some understanding of, economics and is ready to bring businesses 0:48:45.000 --> 0:48:45.680 down here and bring. 0:48:45.760 --> 0:48:48.080 JOBS i also assume you know how to work With. 0:48:48.200 --> 0:48:51.759 Congress if you were acting assistant secretary AT DoD you 0:48:51.880 --> 0:48:53.520 know how that, works so you could be on the 0:48:53.520 --> 0:48:55.480 other side and just on the first day know what 0:48:55.520 --> 0:48:56.000 you wanted to. 0:48:56.040 --> 0:49:01.000 Do Right and, no, ABSOLUTELY i MEAN i was privileged 0:49:01.040 --> 0:49:03.560 to work as Assistant secretary of De men's For cyber 0:49:04.320 --> 0:49:09.000 working on getting some major budgets passed for for, cybersecurity 0:49:09.440 --> 0:49:13.279 for offensive, cyber for the military and other, organizations SO 0:49:14.000 --> 0:49:15.960 i know how to do. THAT i feel comfortable doing. 0:49:16.000 --> 0:49:18.440 That that's SOMETHING i want to lean, into is that 0:49:18.520 --> 0:49:20.120 experience THAT i had to help this. 0:49:20.160 --> 0:49:23.360 District and so last question about, affordability which is the 0:49:24.600 --> 0:49:28.560 million dollar word in this campaign. Cycle are they feeling 0:49:28.600 --> 0:49:32.080 it In North carolina one or does that somehow escape 0:49:32.160 --> 0:49:34.200 the angel of eye prices swooping over? 0:49:34.239 --> 0:49:38.960 It you, KNOW i think everybody's feeling it to a. 0:49:39.040 --> 0:49:41.680 Degree but you look at What President's trump has. Done 0:49:41.719 --> 0:49:44.000 the economy is actually doing better THAN i think the 0:49:44.080 --> 0:49:47.640 naysayers want to have it. Do gas prices are going, 0:49:47.680 --> 0:49:51.239 down of, course they're fluctuating based On. Iran nobody talks 0:49:51.239 --> 0:49:55.040 about egg prices anymore because they've gotten so much. Lower so, 0:49:55.160 --> 0:49:59.680 YEAH i think affordability continues to be an. Issue as 0:49:59.719 --> 0:50:02.440 a national security, PERSON i have to lean into the 0:50:02.480 --> 0:50:06.680 fact that war With, iran or this ongoing tussle With, 0:50:06.719 --> 0:50:09.560 iran whatever we want to call, it is definitely worth 0:50:09.600 --> 0:50:12.920 it for keeping the keeping nuclear weapons out of the 0:50:13.000 --> 0:50:17.080 hands of people who are just so. Unstable SO i 0:50:17.080 --> 0:50:18.759 think we're doing all, Right dana, here we can do, 0:50:18.840 --> 0:50:19.680 better all. 0:50:19.760 --> 0:50:22.520 Right so last, question, Website let's make sure people know 0:50:22.560 --> 0:50:24.560 where to go to contribute and to help you out 0:50:24.600 --> 0:50:26.000 if they can volunteer. 0:50:27.400 --> 0:50:29.960 Absolutely thank you so. Much and It's lori L A 0:50:30.080 --> 0:50:32.960 U R I e last name buck out b u 0:50:33.040 --> 0:50:36.200 C k h O U t For congress dot. 0:50:36.200 --> 0:50:39.279 Com and is the four the number four or is 0:50:39.320 --> 0:50:40.160 it FO r. 0:50:41.640 --> 0:50:41.800 F O? 0:50:42.000 --> 0:50:42.479 R thank? 0:50:42.520 --> 0:50:47.360 You Louri buckout f O R congress dot. Com louribuckout 0:50:47.640 --> 0:50:50.920 f O R congress Dot. Com thank, you. COLONEL i 0:50:50.920 --> 0:50:52.880 look forward to talking to you again before the general 0:50:52.920 --> 0:50:55.880 election In. November we want to remind everyone this is 0:50:55.880 --> 0:50:58.680 one of the gettable flips for The Republican THE nrcc 0:50:58.920 --> 0:51:01.920 told me, so AND i believe. Them they know their own. Numbers, 0:51:01.960 --> 0:51:03.840 Colonel thank you so. Much i'll be right back In. 0:51:03.840 --> 0:51:12.520 America stay tuned to the CONFE a. Show welcome back In. 0:51:12.520 --> 0:51:13.320 America on you. 0:51:13.440 --> 0:51:16.160 Here Tom weiler joins me. Now he is also a 0:51:16.239 --> 0:51:19.560 candidate for The United States senate And. Minnesota, Hello, tom 0:51:19.600 --> 0:51:21.160 whin's the? Vote how do you feel about? 0:51:21.200 --> 0:51:23.520 It, Hello. 0:51:23.640 --> 0:51:27.719 Hugh vote is actually today any day up until Next, 0:51:27.719 --> 0:51:30.920 tuesday the eleventh Of. August And i'm feeling. Good we 0:51:30.960 --> 0:51:34.759 are run sort of a submarine style. Campaign we've been 0:51:34.800 --> 0:51:37.799 stealthy early and we're getting our name out right. Now 0:51:37.800 --> 0:51:40.600 we're having a big search here at the end everywhere 0:51:40.640 --> 0:51:42.080 from yard signs all the way. 0:51:41.960 --> 0:51:43.640 To talking with, You. Hugh SO i feel pretty. 0:51:43.640 --> 0:51:45.560 GOOD i think we're gonna shock a lot of folks 0:51:45.560 --> 0:51:47.759 here In minnesota and get a big win in the 0:51:47.760 --> 0:51:49.400 primary and move on To november. 0:51:49.440 --> 0:51:53.560 THREE i expect The democrats Of minnesota to Nominate Peggy, 0:51:53.600 --> 0:51:56.320 flanagan who's a. Radical why are you the best candidate 0:51:56.360 --> 0:51:57.960 to take her on a? 0:51:58.080 --> 0:52:03.400 Transition it just comes out to, experience, UNDERSTANDING uh tested 0:52:03.480 --> 0:52:07.279 leadership throughout my military and national security, career and fundamentally 0:52:07.360 --> 0:52:09.640 a problem solving me an acumen that THAT i can 0:52:09.760 --> 0:52:13.439 uniquely bring to this job to attack the, many many 0:52:13.480 --> 0:52:18.799 problems that Face United States, senate make develop, solutions get 0:52:19.080 --> 0:52:21.759 team teams In congress and The senate to support those, 0:52:21.800 --> 0:52:24.640 solutions actually get the ball across the goal line that 0:52:24.719 --> 0:52:27.640 will fundamentally Improve minnesota's. Lives and that's Why i'm. Running 0:52:27.960 --> 0:52:30.479 solve problems IN dc and help solve problems In Saint 0:52:30.520 --> 0:52:34.000 paul to Improve Minnesota minnesotan's lives back here in the 0:52:34.040 --> 0:52:34.520 great state Of. 0:52:34.520 --> 0:52:38.360 Minnesota do you think Most minnesota voters understand what it 0:52:38.400 --> 0:52:40.920 took to become a commander in the submarine fleet as you. 0:52:40.960 --> 0:52:45.759 Were you know that's that's, uh not, exactly BUT i 0:52:45.760 --> 0:52:48.080 think there a lot of them are understanding when we 0:52:48.280 --> 0:52:50.360 when we meet, people has a chance to interact with. 0:52:50.360 --> 0:52:53.719 People like, Today i'm out At, farmfest you, know we we. 0:52:53.719 --> 0:52:56.080 Were we just get a really good, reception and it 0:52:56.120 --> 0:52:58.640 seems like almost everyone we talked to walks away Saying 0:52:59.040 --> 0:53:00.399 i'm going to vote for. You i'm going to talk 0:53:00.400 --> 0:53:02.719 to my friends and. Family so the word of mouth 0:53:02.800 --> 0:53:04.680 is really what's going to get us across the finish, 0:53:04.719 --> 0:53:08.719 LINE i, Think and you, know, politicians especially for a, 0:53:08.760 --> 0:53:11.719 submariners is something you need to jump into talking about 0:53:11.760 --> 0:53:14.120 yourself so. Much BUT i have developed just a simple 0:53:14.160 --> 0:53:18.280 matrix That i've sent out on all my social media 0:53:18.280 --> 0:53:21.759 And i've, written bought some maagine the newspapers actually and 0:53:21.800 --> 0:53:24.839 all this simply is the sixteen committees in The United 0:53:24.880 --> 0:53:30.600 States senate and it compares my experience professional experience with 0:53:30.680 --> 0:53:31.880 the other candidates in the. 0:53:31.960 --> 0:53:34.760 Race AND i got a lot Of greens on my, side. 0:53:34.560 --> 0:53:37.479 And other candidates have a lot of, Reds so green 0:53:37.520 --> 0:53:41.000 demonstrates experience and with, THAT i THINK i Think minnesota's 0:53:41.080 --> 0:53:43.520 understanding AND i will be the most effective senator Because 0:53:43.760 --> 0:53:45.360 i'm enough to BE i know enough to be. 0:53:45.400 --> 0:53:47.080 Dangerous in The United States, senate. 0:53:47.160 --> 0:53:50.600 There have been a lot of debates Between republicans And. 0:53:50.640 --> 0:53:54.160 Democrats what did The republicans In minnesota disagree? 0:53:54.160 --> 0:53:57.799 About, well you bring up. 0:53:57.800 --> 0:54:01.080 Debates, unfortunately just YESTERDAY i was shutn out of another 0:54:01.080 --> 0:54:04.080 debate here In. Minnesota And Michelle tafoya is Running i'm 0:54:04.160 --> 0:54:06.960 running against her in The republican, primary and she has 0:54:07.040 --> 0:54:10.879 basically run The biden basement. Campaign, Unfortunately i've never had 0:54:10.880 --> 0:54:11.720 the chance to debate. 0:54:11.760 --> 0:54:13.960 Her but she doesn't. 0:54:13.760 --> 0:54:17.280 Really have any any in depth solutions to the Problems minnesota. 0:54:17.320 --> 0:54:20.000 Space she just sort of sticks with the talking. Points 0:54:20.600 --> 0:54:24.279 i've developed a just a simple table with the nine 0:54:24.360 --> 0:54:27.440 most common problems That i've Heard minnesota's. 0:54:27.480 --> 0:54:28.560 Discuss with my. 0:54:28.640 --> 0:54:32.239 Nine, solutions AND i do deviate from the Standard republican 0:54:32.320 --> 0:54:35.040 and a lot of those. ISSUES i addressed, IMMIGRATION i 0:54:35.080 --> 0:54:38.440 addressed The american, divisiveness and right at the top of, 0:54:38.440 --> 0:54:42.239 course It's minnesota fraud and The minnesota struggling. Economy AND 0:54:42.320 --> 0:54:46.040 i have, ideas specific solutions to help one in fraud 0:54:46.040 --> 0:54:50.200 that's just straight accountability and holding people responsible And, secondly 0:54:50.280 --> 0:54:54.280 to start propelling The minnesota economy. Forward we've been stagging 0:54:54.400 --> 0:54:57.280 up here for a number of years Under Governor, walls 0:54:57.320 --> 0:54:59.000 in twenty years of democratic. 0:54:59.000 --> 0:55:01.040 Control so it's time to chart a new course From. 0:55:01.080 --> 0:55:02.960 Minnesota and we're getting, it getting a lot of folks, 0:55:02.960 --> 0:55:06.000 excited AND i think we're gonna do quite well In tuesday's. 0:55:06.000 --> 0:55:09.480 Primary what do you say about the, Fraud John, MOYLER. 0:55:11.120 --> 0:55:15.440 I just, one it's, unacceptable and, two it's the accountability 0:55:15.440 --> 0:55:15.960 on the people on. 0:55:16.000 --> 0:55:18.840 Top when you're a, SUBMARINER i was on gonna be 0:55:18.920 --> 0:55:19.880 THE exo of THE Uss. 0:55:19.960 --> 0:55:23.800 Michigan when you're THE, xo number two in, command everything 0:55:23.800 --> 0:55:26.080 that occurs on that ship and with the crew of 0:55:26.080 --> 0:55:28.960 that ship is your. Responsibility i'm running against The lieutenant 0:55:29.000 --> 0:55:31.000 governor Of Penny fillin, again the number two of the, 0:55:31.040 --> 0:55:33.480 state and she has yet to admit any of the 0:55:33.600 --> 0:55:37.320 nine to twenty billion dollars of fraud fraud money stolen 0:55:37.320 --> 0:55:39.760 From minnesota tax payers that she's. 0:55:39.640 --> 0:55:41.239 Yet to admit she has any responsibility of. 0:55:41.239 --> 0:55:44.480 That so the biggest thing is just holding people, accountable 0:55:44.520 --> 0:55:47.400 all the way up to the leading folks in, government 0:55:47.440 --> 0:55:49.960 all the way down to Every minnesota and parent who 0:55:50.080 --> 0:55:52.719 received a kickback on a monthly basis because they got 0:55:52.719 --> 0:55:56.600 their kid of fake autism. Diagnosis and that number is 0:55:56.640 --> 0:55:59.120 in the. Thousands unfortunately up here In minnesota and right 0:55:59.160 --> 0:56:02.120 now we've held a couple of people accountable by the 0:56:02.239 --> 0:56:04.080 numbers of like one hundred and fifty two hundred. 0:56:04.080 --> 0:56:06.840 PEOPLE i, mean there's thousands. Here and it needs to 0:56:06.880 --> 0:56:07.120 be a. 0:56:08.760 --> 0:56:12.480 Proactive old people accountable and the punishment. 0:56:12.120 --> 0:56:13.960 Has to have a turn. Effect those are the two 0:56:14.000 --> 0:56:15.200 ways we need to stop fraud here In. 0:56:15.239 --> 0:56:18.880 Minnesota And Tom, wyder last, question what's your website for 0:56:18.920 --> 0:56:20.200 people who are, Listening. 0:56:21.880 --> 0:56:23.719 Tom wiler twenty twenty six dot. 0:56:23.719 --> 0:56:26.320 Com for All minnesotas out, there get out and, vote 0:56:26.360 --> 0:56:29.400 and LIKE i tell, everyone vote early and often. Legally of, 0:56:29.400 --> 0:56:33.399 course you vote for me today or anytime before Next, 0:56:33.440 --> 0:56:36.080 Tuesday august, eleventh and then hopefully you can vote for 0:56:36.120 --> 0:56:36.560 me again on the. 0:56:36.680 --> 0:56:40.000 Verb, Third Tom, weiler good to see you, again old 0:56:40.040 --> 0:56:40.799 friend FROM dc. 0:56:41.040 --> 0:56:42.040 Day it's good to see a. 0:56:42.040 --> 0:56:45.120 Commander don't give up the, ship as we say at 0:56:45.120 --> 0:56:46.840 The battle of The lake. Area if you're around that 0:56:47.000 --> 0:56:49.759 at any, Times Tom, wyler thank you so. Much i'll 0:56:49.760 --> 0:56:52.360 be right back In america's, Paycha my, friends you've probably 0:56:52.400 --> 0:56:53.319 seen the headlines are. 0:56:53.320 --> 0:56:54.480 Worse your latest. 0:56:54.560 --> 0:56:57.360 Bill Meg wireless is raising rates. 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Betrayals revisit the investigation 0:58:28.240 --> 0:58:32.840 through archival, footage, interviews and new arguments about what. Happened 0:58:33.560 --> 0:58:37.280 Launched saturday And sunday at seven Pm eastern On Salem News. 0:58:37.400 --> 0:58:50.240 Channel welcome back In. 0:58:50.240 --> 0:58:52.560 America I'm Hugh hugh At Josh crassa or joined, me 0:58:52.760 --> 0:58:56.800 editor in chief Of Jewish, Insider. Josh welcome. BACK a 0:58:56.840 --> 0:58:58.840 couple of things to cover with you first next, Time 0:58:58.880 --> 0:59:02.040 i'm Gonna Havel whitman. On he's the op ed editor 0:59:02.080 --> 0:59:06.120 At globes In. Israel he's the host of The Western spirit. 0:59:06.200 --> 0:59:07.800 Podcast have you come Across aral? 0:59:07.920 --> 0:59:12.720 YET i definitely know who he, is BUT i have 0:59:12.800 --> 0:59:14.320 not been a regular reader of his. 0:59:14.680 --> 0:59:18.880 Work pretty interesting. Character i'll recommend him to. You, SECONDLY 0:59:19.680 --> 0:59:21.680 i had The Vice president on today And i'm going 0:59:21.720 --> 0:59:24.440 to replay the interview next. HOUR i asked him about 0:59:24.560 --> 0:59:29.280 the belief widespread Among israelis and Some American, jews that 0:59:29.360 --> 0:59:32.520 he's Anti israel or Anti, semitic and he rejects it 0:59:33.240 --> 0:59:36.360 fundamentally and. Thoroughly same answered gave me like five years. Ago, 0:59:36.440 --> 0:59:39.600 No i'm very Pro. Israel it's just our interest sometimes. 0:59:39.600 --> 0:59:42.000 Diverge is that enough for him to make the. 0:59:42.080 --> 0:59:46.200 Case, Well, LOOK i think there are two two parts 0:59:46.240 --> 0:59:49.320 to the concern among a lot Of Jewish americans About 0:59:49.480 --> 0:59:54.040 Vice President. Fance, LOOK i think he's Perfectly he's been 0:59:54.080 --> 0:59:56.439 more critical Of israel than a lot of other leading 0:59:56.480 --> 0:59:58.920 figures in the. Administration but you, know certainly compared to 0:59:58.960 --> 1:00:02.360 we're a lot of, folks especially on the left ar and, 1:00:02.400 --> 1:00:05.120 POLITICS i, mean vance his views are not not. All 1:00:05.160 --> 1:00:07.200 but you, KNOW i think it's less about his views 1:00:07.200 --> 1:00:09.760 On israel that he that he's in his critiques in 1:00:09.800 --> 1:00:12.479 recent months on, podcasts AND i think it's more about 1:00:12.480 --> 1:00:15.960 his associations and his refusal to denounce folks Like Tucker 1:00:16.000 --> 1:00:19.320 carlson on the Anti semitic far right that have raised 1:00:19.360 --> 1:00:20.520 concerns in The jewish. 1:00:20.560 --> 1:00:21.680 Community so when. 1:00:21.480 --> 1:00:24.960 You have both those associations and his unwillingness to condemn 1:00:25.040 --> 1:00:29.160 the outright Anti semitism coming from those podcast, figures uh 1:00:29.360 --> 1:00:31.840 and and and and those associations he, has and then 1:00:31.840 --> 1:00:34.360 you combine that, with you, know the more vocal critiques 1:00:34.400 --> 1:00:36.960 he's offered Of israel and skepticism of some of the 1:00:36.960 --> 1:00:41.000 military engagements uh, internally at least within within the private 1:00:41.000 --> 1:00:43.880 conversations in The White. House that's what's raising a lot 1:00:43.880 --> 1:00:45.480 of a lot of. CONCERNS i don't THINK i think 1:00:45.480 --> 1:00:48.520 there's plenty of room for him to kind of make 1:00:48.640 --> 1:00:51.320 nice and and and and and and you, know regain 1:00:51.400 --> 1:00:55.440 confidence among a lot of Pro israel. Voters but there 1:00:55.480 --> 1:00:57.680 are a lot of reasons beyond just his most recent 1:00:57.680 --> 1:00:59.400 comments About israel that have raised. 1:00:59.440 --> 1:01:03.600 Questions let's probe THAT i have been blasting, al Said 1:01:03.760 --> 1:01:06.200 Abdul Rahman. Il say, YOU i don't want to get 1:01:06.240 --> 1:01:08.600 him mad at me from his pronouncing his. Name Abduur 1:01:08.680 --> 1:01:14.120 Rahman el said The Senate Democratic radical Candidate. Michigan he 1:01:14.280 --> 1:01:17.520 is like stabled at the hipto Son piker who's just 1:01:17.560 --> 1:01:19.560 An islamist anti semi and. 1:01:19.520 --> 1:01:21.280 He goes everywhere with him and they stream. 1:01:21.360 --> 1:01:25.080 Together that's an association that he has to answer for 1:01:25.720 --> 1:01:28.160 the vice. PRESIDENT i actually haven't seen him With Tucker 1:01:28.200 --> 1:01:30.080 carlson since he became vice president of. 1:01:30.120 --> 1:01:33.040 YOU i, mean you have to go, BACK i think 1:01:33.080 --> 1:01:35.520 to The charlie AND i think right after The Charlie kirk. 1:01:35.560 --> 1:01:38.520 ASSASSINATION i think they both. Did DID i think he 1:01:38.560 --> 1:01:40.920 filled in on on the there was a show they did, 1:01:40.920 --> 1:01:42.880 together or he filled In but, YEAH i mean it's 1:01:42.880 --> 1:01:45.120 been a little bit of of. Time but the big, 1:01:45.200 --> 1:01:48.400 question both internally and, publicly is THAT i think a 1:01:48.440 --> 1:01:51.080 lot of folks would like to, see you, know someone 1:01:51.120 --> 1:01:55.600 who has a close relationship with with With Tucker carlson 1:01:55.840 --> 1:01:57.960 to be much more outspoken on the Anti semitism that's 1:01:57.960 --> 1:01:59.440 come from from his end of the far. 1:01:59.520 --> 1:02:02.880 Right but it's that it's the assertion of a close 1:02:02.960 --> 1:02:07.000 relationship THAT i don't believe is born. NOW i, MEAN 1:02:07.040 --> 1:02:09.560 i don't see him on his. PODCAST i don't see 1:02:09.600 --> 1:02:12.760 Him palin around a close relationship is A Son piker 1:02:12.800 --> 1:02:14.920 And elsayatt would you agree with? That that's a close. 1:02:14.960 --> 1:02:16.560 Relationship oh of. 1:02:16.640 --> 1:02:18.520 COURSE i, mean, Look i'll say it And piker were 1:02:18.560 --> 1:02:20.960 campaigned in the final day together of the of the 1:02:21.200 --> 1:02:26.000 of the, Primary so, yes and then there's a much bigger. 1:02:26.040 --> 1:02:29.920 Difference BUT i, also you, know it's pretty well documented 1:02:29.960 --> 1:02:32.560 that That carlson was a big champion Of trump Picking 1:02:32.680 --> 1:02:34.919 vance as his running made in the twenty twenty four 1:02:35.080 --> 1:02:36.800 in the run up to the twenty twenty four reelection 1:02:37.120 --> 1:02:40.480 or election. Campaign and you, know, again there there have 1:02:40.480 --> 1:02:43.000 been it's not just that. Relationship there have been moments 1:02:43.000 --> 1:02:45.840 on college. Campuses you've talked about This hue When vance 1:02:45.840 --> 1:02:48.160 has spoken At Turning point, rallies and there's a real, 1:02:48.240 --> 1:02:49.280 vile noxious. 1:02:48.920 --> 1:02:50.600 Anti semitism that comes up with some of the. 1:02:50.600 --> 1:02:53.400 Speakers AND i think there's been a widespread concern that 1:02:53.440 --> 1:02:56.400 The vance's pushback has not been as aggressive as it 1:02:56.440 --> 1:02:58.280 could be from a leader in the country as the 1:02:58.320 --> 1:02:59.200 vice president of The United. 1:02:59.240 --> 1:03:02.200 States, okay the transcriptors area and go over and read 1:03:02.240 --> 1:03:04.080 it at h hewitt dot. Com see what his answer. 1:03:04.120 --> 1:03:07.480 Is let's talk about el, SAID i believe you you 1:03:07.920 --> 1:03:11.400 posted that while they're making nice in public In. Michigan 1:03:11.480 --> 1:03:14.760 N Alie stevens AND l, Said in, fact those wounds are too. 1:03:14.760 --> 1:03:18.480 DEEP i can't imagine An american jew voting FOR l. 1:03:18.560 --> 1:03:19.320 Said can you. 1:03:22.160 --> 1:03:25.560 Look if you look at the precinct by precinct results 1:03:25.280 --> 1:03:29.240 In jewish communities Across, MICHIGAN i, mean it looks about 1:03:29.440 --> 1:03:31.960 seventy five to eighty percent Of jewish. VOTERS i will 1:03:31.960 --> 1:03:34.640 probably get a more specific number when we can kind 1:03:34.640 --> 1:03:36.920 of crunch do a little more number, crunching but it 1:03:36.920 --> 1:03:38.600 looks like it's about a four to five to one 1:03:38.640 --> 1:03:41.320 margin in the Most jewish areas In, detroit in The 1:03:41.360 --> 1:03:45.320 Oakland county from For stevens over L sai ed in 1:03:45.600 --> 1:03:48.919 The democratic. Primary SO i, mean, look it's. Good there's 1:03:48.960 --> 1:03:51.720 gonna be a big Swing hugh in the general. Election 1:03:51.800 --> 1:03:54.040 we reported A Jewish insider that there are a lot 1:03:54.040 --> 1:03:57.400 of very Prominent Democratic jewish leaders that are already either 1:03:57.400 --> 1:04:01.520 coming out for Supporting Mike, rodgers very Mainstream republican former, 1:04:01.560 --> 1:04:05.240 congressman or very close to doing. That so you're going 1:04:05.280 --> 1:04:06.720 to be SEEING i think a lot of notable names 1:04:06.720 --> 1:04:09.600 in The democratic, community in the moderate space in The 1:04:09.640 --> 1:04:14.240 jewish Among jewish leaders and. Beyond there's a real alarm 1:04:14.360 --> 1:04:17.000 about the radicalism That elsad brings to the. Table, now 1:04:17.000 --> 1:04:19.520 look on the other, side you Have stevens And Gretchen, 1:04:19.560 --> 1:04:22.200 whitmer the, governor and a lot of the leaders of 1:04:22.240 --> 1:04:25.240 the party endorsing L sayeed and getting to playing team. Ball, 1:04:26.600 --> 1:04:29.600 Notably Hillary, skulton one of the more Moderate democrats in the, 1:04:29.640 --> 1:04:33.280 delegation has been very outspoken and said has not said 1:04:33.480 --> 1:04:35.200 she would Support El, saied. 1:04:35.200 --> 1:04:36.400 But a lot of Other democrats. 1:04:36.440 --> 1:04:39.439 Have and it's going to be a partisan mud fight 1:04:39.840 --> 1:04:42.680 for A senate election that could very well decide who 1:04:42.760 --> 1:04:43.480 has The senate. 1:04:43.520 --> 1:04:48.600 Majority Has Alissa slotkin the Other democratic, Senator Gary peters is. 1:04:48.640 --> 1:04:51.800 Retiring Melissa slotkin Beat Mike rogers by a very narrow 1:04:51.840 --> 1:04:55.240 margin in twenty twenty. Four Has Alissa slotkin put her 1:04:55.320 --> 1:04:56.240 arms Around el sai. 1:04:56.280 --> 1:04:56.440 Ed. 1:04:58.320 --> 1:05:00.680 She's. ENDORSED i don't know if she's put her arms around. 1:05:00.720 --> 1:05:02.200 Him i'm not sure if she was at there was 1:05:02.200 --> 1:05:04.200 our unity rally for the. Party i'm not sure if 1:05:04.240 --> 1:05:06.800 she was. There BUT i do know that she quickly 1:05:06.880 --> 1:05:09.640 endorsed him after he won the. Nomination AND i think 1:05:09.720 --> 1:05:12.080 one thing if you talk To Hailey stephens, supporters that 1:05:12.360 --> 1:05:14.640 they were very. Privately i've talked to a number of them. 1:05:14.760 --> 1:05:18.000 Privately very upset about is That, slockin even with the 1:05:18.040 --> 1:05:21.920 governor's endorsement Of, Stevens slopkin. 1:05:21.560 --> 1:05:21.960 Stayed on the. 1:05:22.000 --> 1:05:25.160 Sideline she's a national Security democrat who's thinking maybe of 1:05:25.200 --> 1:05:27.440 running for president as a, moderate as someone who's going 1:05:27.480 --> 1:05:30.960 to steer the party in a more moderate, direction and 1:05:31.000 --> 1:05:33.960 she did not have the gumption to endorse the candidate 1:05:34.000 --> 1:05:36.000 who much more closely a Matgined and she's you, know 1:05:36.400 --> 1:05:39.800 if you can't endorse against someone who's aligned with A 1:05:39.880 --> 1:05:43.479 san piker and his Anti american, views and you claim 1:05:43.520 --> 1:05:46.240 to be a nation FORMER cia, agent a national security 1:05:46.320 --> 1:05:48.080 leader in the, party and that tells you a lot 1:05:48.080 --> 1:05:50.800 about where The Democratic party is right. Now And hailey 1:05:50.840 --> 1:05:53.919 steven supporters think If slockin, endorsed given how close that race, 1:05:54.080 --> 1:05:57.040 was If slockin had the courage to Endorse, stevens she 1:05:57.040 --> 1:05:58.720 probably would have won the nomination and prevented a. 1:05:58.760 --> 1:05:59.560 ROUND i think you're, Right. 1:05:59.640 --> 1:06:03.240 Josh we'll follow that story very very closely with you 1:06:03.320 --> 1:06:07.120 throughout the next three. Months Follow josh on Exit josh Cross. 1:06:07.200 --> 1:06:09.960 Ower you meet him at The Jewish. Insider you can 1:06:10.000 --> 1:06:12.840 subscribe for free for two weeks Over jewish insider Dot. 1:06:12.880 --> 1:06:20.840 Com thank, You. Josh stay Tuned. America i'll be welcome Back. 1:06:20.920 --> 1:06:23.640 AMERICA a few weeks, AGO i found a New israeli, 1:06:23.720 --> 1:06:27.360 Podcaster Ariel. Whitman he actually found. ME i was enjoyed 1:06:27.720 --> 1:06:31.040 my time on his, Podcast The Western, spirit SO i 1:06:31.040 --> 1:06:34.320 thought we'd have a home and away. Discussion, Ariel welcome 1:06:34.320 --> 1:06:36.600 to The huhuite. Show tell people a little bit about 1:06:36.640 --> 1:06:37.760 yourself and what you do In. 1:06:37.840 --> 1:06:42.360 Israel So i'm the op ed editor At israel's most 1:06:42.400 --> 1:06:45.200 read financial. Newspaper we're sort of like The Wolf Street 1:06:45.240 --> 1:06:47.920 journal's sister. Paper we actually take stuff from, them so 1:06:47.960 --> 1:06:51.160 we work. Together AND i have the, podcast which is 1:06:51.200 --> 1:06:53.720 my own, thing which we did which was a lot of. 1:06:53.720 --> 1:06:55.560 Fun by the, way it went on much longer THAN i. 1:06:55.600 --> 1:06:57.960 Thought it was so much. Fun, well thank you. 1:06:57.920 --> 1:07:00.760 For having WHAT i do how many times a week 1:07:00.800 --> 1:07:02.960 to do The Western, spirit and let's tell people how 1:07:02.960 --> 1:07:05.400 to find The Western spirit so that they subscribe and 1:07:05.560 --> 1:07:07.520 like The Western. SPIRIT i thought it was an excellent. 1:07:07.960 --> 1:07:13.040 Conversation SO i try to upload about three episodes a, 1:07:13.080 --> 1:07:16.640 week and the idea came. 1:07:16.680 --> 1:07:18.200 OUT i THINK i told you about. 1:07:18.240 --> 1:07:21.040 IT i about five six years ago lost almost all my, 1:07:21.120 --> 1:07:23.720 eyesight and my wife was, like you have to do 1:07:23.760 --> 1:07:25.360 something for, yourself. 1:07:25.360 --> 1:07:26.800 AND i was, like what SHOULD i? DO i, SAID 1:07:26.800 --> 1:07:27.560 i like to talk to. 1:07:27.640 --> 1:07:31.000 People and it was right Before october. SEVENTH i started 1:07:31.000 --> 1:07:34.200 In hebrew and THEN i did an episode In english 1:07:34.240 --> 1:07:37.080 just because it was, interesting and suddenly tons of people started. 1:07:37.120 --> 1:07:40.400 Watching so it just you, know ballooned from. 1:07:40.440 --> 1:07:43.480 There so that's where that's how everything, happened just by. 1:07:43.560 --> 1:07:46.280 Chance and uh so would. 1:07:46.040 --> 1:07:49.360 You locate yourself on these rarely political spectrum for the 1:07:49.440 --> 1:07:50.920 listeners who are pretty conversion with? 1:07:50.960 --> 1:07:54.480 It SO i used to work in the The coude. 1:07:55.760 --> 1:07:59.880 In about at this point in twenty, nineteen Before, corona 1:08:00.120 --> 1:08:02.720 there was the three. Elections remember there was like one 1:08:02.800 --> 1:08:05.320 election and no government was, formed then two months later 1:08:05.320 --> 1:08:08.520 another one and so during that TIME i worked in 1:08:08.560 --> 1:08:12.440 the De coude And i've always been even BEFORE i 1:08:12.560 --> 1:08:14.920 was working and writing in the newspapers, HERE i was 1:08:15.120 --> 1:08:19.360 very right wing and, volunteering AND i organized an entire 1:08:19.400 --> 1:08:22.759 group of people that became THE cud. Members our hope 1:08:22.840 --> 1:08:25.280 was to try to get more free market oriented members 1:08:25.280 --> 1:08:28.040 Of kannesset into higher places in the The. 1:08:28.040 --> 1:08:31.639 Coude lists of The kannesset in the past three four. 1:08:31.720 --> 1:08:36.040 Years i've been very disillusioned With, nataniello probably even, longer 1:08:36.920 --> 1:08:39.559 but more from the fact THAT i don't think he's 1:08:39.600 --> 1:08:43.200 being right wing, enough if that makes any. Sense SO 1:08:43.840 --> 1:08:45.760 i would Say i'm more on the is ready. RIGHT 1:08:45.800 --> 1:08:48.680 i also think that now the big discussion of this 1:08:48.760 --> 1:08:53.400 election will be about the Ultra orthodox. Issue, today as we're, 1:08:53.439 --> 1:08:56.320 Speaking Gilader, dan which used to be member of the De, 1:08:56.400 --> 1:09:00.280 coude announced him Annually, edelstein which is also another the 1:09:00.479 --> 1:09:03.280 coud are leaving THE cud and forming a new. Party 1:09:03.800 --> 1:09:07.439 and this party explicitly in their press conference was the 1:09:07.479 --> 1:09:09.600 reason why is that the coud is too much in 1:09:09.640 --> 1:09:13.480 the pocket of the Ultra orthodox with both the conscription 1:09:14.120 --> 1:09:15.960 stuff and the economic. 1:09:16.000 --> 1:09:18.280 Issues so this is going to be a big. 1:09:18.320 --> 1:09:20.280 Thing there's a bunch of parties in the middle of 1:09:20.320 --> 1:09:24.080 the political spectrum that are trying to get in BECAUSE 1:09:24.120 --> 1:09:26.240 i think they see in the polls about twelve seats 1:09:26.280 --> 1:09:29.680 equivalent Of israelis who, say we don't care B, b NOT, 1:09:29.760 --> 1:09:32.519 bb we just want the Ultra orthodox to start paying 1:09:32.600 --> 1:09:36.240 their fair share quote unquote to borrow the Leftist american. 1:09:36.280 --> 1:09:38.840 Line and so that's going to be a very. 1:09:38.880 --> 1:09:41.920 Bigtion taniao already is trying to distance himself from the 1:09:42.360 --> 1:09:45.559 ha redeem the Ultra. Orthodox he said in The this, 1:09:45.600 --> 1:09:49.559 week he said in a closed meeting that somehow someone 1:09:50.120 --> 1:09:52.839 released that whoever doesn't go to the army needs. 1:09:52.640 --> 1:09:52.920 To go to. 1:09:52.960 --> 1:09:55.680 Jail this is the exact opposite of the law that 1:09:55.760 --> 1:09:58.559 he tried to pass three weeks, ago which said that 1:09:58.680 --> 1:10:00.600 Ultra orthodox who don't go to the army will not 1:10:00.680 --> 1:10:03.400 go to. Jail Supreme court put a stop to. THAT 1:10:04.560 --> 1:10:06.599 i wonder what your opinion on that, is The Supreme, 1:10:06.600 --> 1:10:08.800 court BECAUSE i know you're more more Of alwer THAN i. 1:10:08.840 --> 1:10:12.040 Am but he basically said, no, no, no, no that was 1:10:12.080 --> 1:10:15.719 a little one time. Thing but really in my next, 1:10:15.760 --> 1:10:18.800 government whoever it doesn't go to the army will go to. 1:10:18.880 --> 1:10:22.160 Jail and so he's already trying to distance. Himself so 1:10:22.240 --> 1:10:25.600 this IS i, think unless The iran war restarts with 1:10:25.720 --> 1:10:29.040 a vigor AND i don't know what's happening with, That 1:10:29.280 --> 1:10:33.000 President trump IS i don't really understand what's. Happening but 1:10:33.160 --> 1:10:36.920 if that doesn't, happen then the Internal israeli stuff is 1:10:36.920 --> 1:10:40.519 what's going to decide the, election which is really, weird 1:10:40.640 --> 1:10:42.360 AND i think we spoke about it when you were 1:10:42.400 --> 1:10:45.519 on my, show that you would think three four years 1:10:45.520 --> 1:10:50.240 After october, seventh not even three, years the discussion would be. 1:10:50.280 --> 1:10:53.400 Security but it turns out that All israelis pretty much 1:10:53.400 --> 1:10:56.200 don't want a too state. Solution All israelis pretty much 1:10:56.240 --> 1:10:59.639 are very right wing also on the settlement's, issue even 1:10:59.640 --> 1:11:03.520 if they're not ideological like The Greater israel quote, unquote 1:11:03.800 --> 1:11:06.400 they don't want The palestinians to have a state because 1:11:06.439 --> 1:11:08.760 they saw what happened In gaza and they think the 1:11:08.800 --> 1:11:12.000 settlements are a buffer to. That so pretty much there's 1:11:12.160 --> 1:11:16.400 no not a lot of disagreements on the fundamentals of 1:11:16.439 --> 1:11:17.080 the security. 1:11:17.160 --> 1:11:21.920 Situation So, Benny, yeah. 1:11:21.479 --> 1:11:24.000 Because this is a broadcast not a, PODCAST i have 1:11:24.080 --> 1:11:25.639 to do it in eight minute, segment SO i want 1:11:25.680 --> 1:11:28.320 to make SURE i have you back again to. 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