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Speaker 1: I'm pleased to welcome back Vice President jd. Vance to
Speaker 1: the program to talk about his brand new book, Communion.
Speaker 1: Mister Vice President, Welcome back and congratulations on your book.
Speaker 1: You a memoir about crossing the Tiber. I found it
Speaker 1: very winsome, very revealing. I found it very frustrating that
Speaker 1: on your book tour no one talked to you about it.
Speaker 1: Did you Were you surprised by that? They talked about
Speaker 1: everything but Communions.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's amazing anybody bought the book, Hugh, because I
Speaker 2: was talking about, of course, the Iran situation. I was
Speaker 2: talking about economic issues. I think it kind of comes
Speaker 2: with the territory though, Hugh. When you're the vice president,
Speaker 2: you're out there talking about a book, people are going
Speaker 2: to ask you about the news today and whatever else.
Speaker 2: Is going on. So I appreciated it. It certainly was. You know,
Speaker 2: for me, what I wanted to do was just write
Speaker 2: a book about obviously my own faith journey, but try
Speaker 2: to write something that was not kind of a traditional
Speaker 2: political book. Right, it's not. Here are ten problems in America,
Speaker 2: and here are thirty policy proposals for how to fix
Speaker 2: it. It's very honest. It's some I think in some ways
Speaker 2: it's very self critical. But I think any honest account
Speaker 2: of how a person finds their way to Christ is
Speaker 2: going to be exactly that, and hopefully some people pick
Speaker 2: it up and find some meaning in it.
Speaker 1: I want to make sure that at least the Catholics
Speaker 1: who are listening today are those who are Catholic adjacent.
Speaker 1: Get out there and read it, or they can get
Speaker 1: the audiobook. I got both. You did a very fine
Speaker 1: job reading it. I want to start though, with Father
Speaker 1: Harry Steven or Stephan. How do you pronounce his name?
Speaker 2: Henry Stephan?
Speaker 1: All right, Father Stephan is exactly the sort of priest
Speaker 1: every Catholic curious person would be blessed to run into.
Speaker 1: Please tell the audience about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'll tell you. Worry about Henry's stephan Father Henry,
Speaker 2: as I call him so very early in my own
Speaker 2: faith journey. He is the priest who baptized me, but
Speaker 2: I don't believe I had been baptized at this point.
Speaker 2: I met him at a Cincinnati waffle restaurant and he
Speaker 2: walks in. It is October the thirty first, and he's
Speaker 2: a Dominican friar, so he always wears this sort of
Speaker 2: gigantic white frock. And I say gigantic because Father Henry's
Speaker 2: probably six', five two. Fifty he's a very big. Dude
Speaker 2: and he walks in the entire restaurant stops and stares at,
Speaker 2: him And Father, henry without skipping a, beat, says don't worry,
Speaker 2: everybody it's not A halloween. COSTUME i actually do believe In.
Speaker 2: Jesus and everybody laughs that he sits. Down he's just
Speaker 2: this amazingly, gregarious funny but just a good human, being
Speaker 2: a good. Priest he cares a lot about the, faith
Speaker 2: but he's also very. Thoughtful he's a brilliant guy who
Speaker 2: went To, princeton who just he feels, it but he
Speaker 2: also thinks about. It AND i think he was the
Speaker 2: exact kind of person THAT i need to be connected
Speaker 2: to in order to find my own way back To,
Speaker 2: christ because you, KNOW i had a lot of. QUESTIONS
Speaker 2: i had a lot of you, KNOW i was very
Speaker 2: interested in the intellectual tradition of The catholic, faith BUT
Speaker 2: i also needed somebody who could steer me in my
Speaker 2: own practice of. It And Father henry did all of those.
Speaker 2: Things he's a, great great guy.
Speaker 1: There i'm going to come back to him in a,
Speaker 1: second BUT i want to lay the. Groundwork you're a
Speaker 1: Young life, kid which is a reveal to. Me i'm
Speaker 1: a big fan Of Young life for high school. Kids
Speaker 1: it's better THAN i have not drinking beer and chasing
Speaker 1: the other. Sex but did you go To Young life?
Speaker 1: Camp do you remember the name of your area director
Speaker 1: or anything like.
Speaker 2: That, NOW i never went to the, camp BUT i
Speaker 2: always went to the high school, meetings and it look
Speaker 2: it was very very good for me to your, point
Speaker 2: kept me out of some other trouble That i'm SURE
Speaker 2: i would have gotten involved in as a. Teenager and you,
Speaker 2: know it's one of these ways in WHICH i did
Speaker 2: have a foundation in faith that eventually came back to
Speaker 2: me in a big. Way AS i talk about in the,
Speaker 2: BOOK i kind of fell away from, it, RIGHT i
Speaker 2: called myself an atheist for a. Time but WHEN i
Speaker 2: look back at my own journey coming back to the,
Speaker 2: FAITH i don't think THAT i would have had quite
Speaker 2: the same trajectory if it hadn't been for that original.
Speaker 2: Foundation so even though it didn't take you, know sometimes
Speaker 2: these seeds get planted and they lay dormant for a.
Speaker 3: While but for those of you who.
Speaker 2: Don't know About Young, LIFE i, mean you, know you show,
Speaker 2: up you read The, bible you do some, singing and
Speaker 2: it's just a really good way for high schoolers to
Speaker 2: engage with their faith at their, level BECAUSE i, think
Speaker 2: as everybody, knows you, know the way of sixty five
Speaker 2: year old engages with The Christian, faith it's going to
Speaker 2: be different from the way of forty five year old
Speaker 2: and certainly different from the way of fifteen year old
Speaker 2: engages with the.
Speaker 1: Faith and it's a great entry level and it does
Speaker 1: lay seeds so good on Young. LIFE i want to
Speaker 1: go back to Bother stephan now because if anyone picks
Speaker 1: up the book in the, BOOKSTORE i go to page
Speaker 1: one sixty. Three it's a very concise statement of how
Speaker 1: one comes to religious. Belief, quote you don't Fail god's
Speaker 1: presence and. Change in an, instance The father told you
Speaker 1: there's a roadmap To, god and you've got to, travel
Speaker 1: because for most of, us grace is not something that
Speaker 1: happens in a. MOMENT i thought that is exactly by the,
Speaker 1: Way Billy graham wasn't An aha moment lightning striking. Either
Speaker 1: Father stefan seemed to lay out the gradual, path the path.
Speaker 2: Upward, yeah that's exactly, Right, hugh and that that gradual
Speaker 2: path really spoke to, me because you know you're you're exactly.
Speaker 2: RIGHT i think some people probably Misrepresent Billy graham as
Speaker 2: kind of An aha moment and all of a sudden
Speaker 2: everything is. BETTER i think that's unfair To Billy. Graham
Speaker 2: but certainly in my own, FAITH i kind of had
Speaker 2: this idea that you, know you, prayed you Accepted jesus
Speaker 2: in your, heart and then everything was supposed to be
Speaker 2: better in your life and everything was supposed to be.
Speaker 2: Easy AND i found that unsatisfying in my, youth and
Speaker 2: that's one of the reasons WHY i fell away from that.
Speaker 2: Faith And Father henry explained grace as sort of a,
Speaker 2: process as sort of this process of, perfection AND i
Speaker 2: don't say self, perfection because the idea is that you
Speaker 2: Need god's help along the, way And he's constantly working
Speaker 2: in these subtle. Ways but you also you have to
Speaker 2: work at. It and there's there's a way in which
Speaker 2: the practice of the faith informs you in the right.
Speaker 2: Way there's a way in, which you, know participating in
Speaker 2: the sacraments and praying and actually going to confession and
Speaker 2: doing all these things they slowly have this miraculous effect
Speaker 2: on a. Person but for, me you, know WHEN i
Speaker 2: was nineteen years, old to, YOU i would think of
Speaker 2: a miracle as sort of you, Know god waves the
Speaker 2: magic wand and everything's different in some. WAYS i think
Speaker 2: What Father henry was able to show to me is
Speaker 2: that true miracles sometimes are no less amazing and no
Speaker 2: less physics, defying but sometimes they take a little bit of.
Speaker 2: Time and that way in which grace works patiently was
Speaker 2: a very important insight for me because it fit how
Speaker 2: the world actually. Worked it spoke to me in a
Speaker 2: way that the aha moment idea of theology never.
Speaker 1: DID i want the audience to. Know in the course
Speaker 1: of Reading, commune you'll run Into Saint Augustine chesterton of
Speaker 1: COURSE a S, Lewis Rene, Girard Pope leo the. Thirteenth
Speaker 1: you rossed out that And rod dreher in. There BUT
Speaker 1: i got to tell, YOU i went out and got
Speaker 1: The symposium On theology And falsification that you referenced By
Speaker 1: anthony Flu hair And Basil. Mitchell that that's not for,
Speaker 1: me Mister pikes, brat that's way about my.
Speaker 4: Bag, Ray did you actually get through?
Speaker 2: THAT i, did though the part THAT i talk about
Speaker 2: in the book is very, short so SO i think
Speaker 2: it's it's it's a relatively short series of essays and
Speaker 2: back and forth that was very important to. Me but
Speaker 2: but you know, what what WHAT i write about in
Speaker 2: the book IS i encountered these essays as a you, know,
Speaker 2: college you, know philosophy, kid and there was this sort
Speaker 2: of debate and AND i kind of at the time
Speaker 2: thought the atheist had won the. Debate but there was
Speaker 2: a response From Basil mitchell THAT i actually thought was
Speaker 2: very very, compelling AND i kept on returning to. It
Speaker 2: and the basic idea, Here i'm not going to do it.
Speaker 2: Justice SO i hope you and your listener listeners will forgive.
Speaker 2: Me but is this this idea that when you see
Speaker 2: something that doesn't comport with what you Think god should be,
Speaker 2: doing or you see something you see something that makes you, think,
Speaker 2: well Maybe god doesn't actually care about. Me the debate, is,
Speaker 2: really does that mean That god is real or does
Speaker 2: that mean That god is? False and What Basil mitchell
Speaker 2: says is, no, no, no, no you guys are kind of
Speaker 2: missing the. Point, absolutely when you see something happen that
Speaker 2: goes against divine, providence or when you see bad things
Speaker 2: to happen to good, people that absolutely does count against
Speaker 2: the idea That god loves human, beings but it doesn't count.
Speaker 2: Definitively in other, words it is something that should cause some,
Speaker 2: skepticism it is something that should cause some, humility but
Speaker 2: it's not something that should lead you to disregard your
Speaker 2: faith because the, ultimate you, know one of the ultimate
Speaker 2: truths of The christian faith is That god knows. Best
Speaker 2: now it requires again some humility to believe in, that
Speaker 2: it requires some patience to accept. It BUT i just
Speaker 2: this idea that you could see something that really did
Speaker 2: make you question your, faith but didn't make you discard.
Speaker 2: It the idea that it was okay to question and have,
Speaker 2: doubts even be angry At. God that was a very
Speaker 2: powerful thing for.
Speaker 4: Me, well it is.
Speaker 1: POWERFUL i left The Roman Catholic church for a dozen.
Speaker 1: YEARS i got brought back in By Archbishop charles shapewho
Speaker 1: listened to my radio show and, thought, no you got
Speaker 1: this all, wrong because the bishops went nuts in the
Speaker 1: Eighties Vice President. Vans they would send The Reagan White
Speaker 1: house letters on nuclear weapons and. Poverty they were just.
Speaker 1: Nuts they went over the left cliff AND i just
Speaker 1: couldn't take it. Anymore and the archbishop, explained and THEREFORE
Speaker 1: i was armored up against the pre, scandal, which by the,
Speaker 1: WAY i want the honest you deal with the pre,
Speaker 1: scandal the abuse, scandal and in a very forthright. WAY
Speaker 1: a lot Of catholics dodged, that And i'm very glad
Speaker 1: that you. Didn't the book would lack authenticity if you.
Speaker 1: Had do people still question you about that that they
Speaker 1: still have because it still lingers in the.
Speaker 2: Culture, well, YEAH i think it's one of those things
Speaker 2: that's always going to linger Over catholic culture because it
Speaker 2: was such a wounding thing for so Many, catholics that
Speaker 2: hurt so many people so, deeply and even those of,
Speaker 2: course key who weren't caught up in it, directly they
Speaker 2: were still offended by. It they were still asking, questions
Speaker 2: how could the church let this? Happen and for, Me,
Speaker 2: HUGH i write about this in the book that one
Speaker 2: of the things that happened is there was a Big
Speaker 2: Pennsylvania catholic abuse sort of reports that had come out
Speaker 2: right at the point WHERE i was talking With Father
Speaker 2: henry about becoming baptized and becoming received into The Catholic.
Speaker 2: Church and you, know my Wife, usha who is you,
Speaker 2: Know hugh is this brilliant. Lawyer there was a point
Speaker 2: where we're sitting at home late one night and she
Speaker 2: just absolutely Interrogates Father henry about this because she's, like
Speaker 2: If jad does, this then he's going to want to
Speaker 2: raise the kids in the. Church and we had you
Speaker 2: at the, time two little, boys and obviously loved them
Speaker 2: very much and didn't want anything like this to happen to.
Speaker 2: Them And Father henry later would describe it as the
Speaker 2: most difficult set of questions he's ever faced his entire.
Speaker 2: Life but again his point was if you read The,
Speaker 2: bible like if you read the foundational text of The christian,
Speaker 2: faith it tells you That god works through humans who
Speaker 2: are deeply, imperfect who are murderers and liars and all
Speaker 2: manner of bad, things and it's kind of one of
Speaker 2: these very unique but also you, know requires some humility
Speaker 2: to believe in That god works through imperfect. People and
Speaker 2: so the argument is not that The church is. Perfect
Speaker 2: the argument is not that the church always succeeds in
Speaker 2: its effort to help people and to serve. People the, argument,
Speaker 2: though is that this, institution in its very imperfect, way
Speaker 2: does reveal something About Jesus christ and his love for.
Speaker 2: People and you have to be able to accept the
Speaker 2: good and the bad and the same way that you
Speaker 2: have to be able to read The bible and, say,
Speaker 2: Well King david was this terrible, guy and yet he
Speaker 2: was the chosen person to kind of Implement god's kingdom
Speaker 2: at that time in. History and that is an interesting, Place.
Speaker 2: Hugh i've always been fascinated by, this by just the
Speaker 2: philosophy of. It That god doesn't sort of, say, Oh
Speaker 2: i'm going to come in and make everybody, perfect and
Speaker 2: everybody who serves me is going to be. Perfect he
Speaker 2: makes a much different claim about human, beings that he
Speaker 2: is the one True, god that his grace can transform,
Speaker 2: people but that he's going to work through these incredibly
Speaker 2: imperfect people who constantly fail to follow. HIM i think
Speaker 2: for a lot of people they say that's, Absurd but for,
Speaker 2: ME i, say that actually fits with the human nature
Speaker 2: As i've encountered.
Speaker 1: It, now if it's, persuasive if you adopt an intellectual
Speaker 1: approach To catholicism or To christianity in the, beginning and
Speaker 1: work through the various writers that you, do you'll get.
Speaker 1: There BEFORE i go back to, THAT i want to
Speaker 1: ask you about your level of. PRACTICE i know you've been,
Speaker 1: baptized you've had your first, communion you've had your first.
Speaker 1: Confession did you get, confirmed Mister Vice?
Speaker 2: President, well it's a good, Question. HUGH i, MEAN i
Speaker 2: believe that that happened as part of getting, baptized BECAUSE
Speaker 2: i had never been baptized, before and SO i actually
Speaker 2: didn't do a first confession because as you, know you,
Speaker 2: know when you do the, baptism if you've never been baptized,
Speaker 2: before that kind of washes away all those, sins and
Speaker 2: so the first CONFESSION i did was probably, ever you,
Speaker 2: know four or, five six weeks after, that so you,
Speaker 2: KNOW i basically just Followed Father henry's lead and did
Speaker 2: the things that he said THAT i needed to. Do
Speaker 2: and you, KNOW i what we do is we go
Speaker 2: to church every every. Week sometimes travel or the duties
Speaker 2: the vice president make that, harder but we still try
Speaker 2: to make it. Work and you, KNOW i try to
Speaker 2: go to confession every four, weeks every six, weeks AND
Speaker 2: i try to just follow The sacramental life as much
Speaker 2: AS i. Can AND i found that it has become
Speaker 2: easier over. Time and it's actually one of these things
Speaker 2: where you get better at it the more you practice at.
Speaker 1: It, oh the most winsent part of the book is
Speaker 1: getting your three now four babies ready to go to
Speaker 1: church or smalls because they rig, all they, yell they,
Speaker 1: pinch they. PUNCH i was one of those. Families my
Speaker 1: mom somehow managed to get through my dad's The, presbyterians
Speaker 1: who didn't often go to church with. Us he was
Speaker 1: at his own. Church BUT i thought that was The
Speaker 1: Every catholic family is going to recognize that. Story so well.
Speaker 1: DONE i was, wondering, though if you had a confirmation
Speaker 1: name and you obviously don't recall it or you would
Speaker 1: know you were.
Speaker 2: Confirmed, well, yeah so my confirmation name Is. Augustine SO i,
Speaker 2: GUESS i, GUESS i GUESS i was. Confirmed but oh,
Speaker 2: yeah it's funny that that exact word just never came
Speaker 2: up in the process Where Father henry, said or we're,
Speaker 2: gonna we're gonna choose a confirmation. Name he just you,
Speaker 2: know we chose the Name augustine for my, baptism and
Speaker 2: that's that's what we.
Speaker 4: Did good. CHOICE i mean that that's. Reaching that puts
Speaker 4: a lot on your, shoulders that's. Reaching do you do
Speaker 4: things for, You?
Speaker 2: Hugh it demands a lot of, you high.
Speaker 4: Expectations you got to read confessions at least. Once.
Speaker 1: Here do you, observe for, example All Saints day and
Speaker 1: the weak of The octave Of All souls where you
Speaker 1: can for the benefit of The catholic ca the. Audience
Speaker 1: catholics believe in The church militant on, earth The church
Speaker 1: suffering In, purgatory and The church triumphant in, heaven and
Speaker 1: The church militant can help out the church suffering during
Speaker 1: The week Of All saints and The octave Of All
Speaker 1: saints In. November do you do that for, Say mama
Speaker 1: or any of your, family or do you do any
Speaker 1: of that? Work is that something that's come across your raidar.
Speaker 4: Yet.
Speaker 2: YEAH i MEAN i go to church during the required,
Speaker 2: days during During All, saints During All Saints', day and
Speaker 2: OBVIOUSLY i do the prayers for the, dead and that
Speaker 2: includes the prayers for a lot of the people That
Speaker 2: i'm in, love but also just general prayers for the.
Speaker 2: DEAD i try To you, know What Father henry has told, Me,
Speaker 2: hugh is that you try to treat the church as
Speaker 2: a witness and you try to follow as much as.
Speaker 2: Possible AND i don't want to say That i'm perfect about,
Speaker 2: it Because i've, found for, example you, know there are
Speaker 2: certain days of, Obligation, hugh WHERE i will find out
Speaker 2: afterwards that it was a day of. OBLIGATION i didn't even.
Speaker 2: Know it didn't even.
Speaker 4: Try it doesn't count as a. Sentence he didn't. Know,
Speaker 4: yeah it doesn't.
Speaker 2: Count, well that's, good that's good to. Know BUT i
Speaker 2: still try to go to confession and try to be
Speaker 2: responsive to. It and you, KNOW i just my attitude towards, It,
Speaker 2: hugh is you try to follow the lead of the
Speaker 2: faith as much as, possible recognizing you're going to be
Speaker 2: imperfect about. It there are a lot of THINGS i
Speaker 2: will Say hugh as a sort of evangelical convert To.
Speaker 2: Catholicism there's certain things about it THAT i, find you,
Speaker 2: know culturally. DISTINCT i mean even confession, right the idea
Speaker 2: that earlier on and talk to a stranger about every
Speaker 2: bad thing that you've done over the last four or six.
Speaker 2: WEEKS i find that a little. Unusual BUT i just
Speaker 2: try to follow the. Rules AND i find that the
Speaker 2: more THAT i follow the, rules the BETTER i get
Speaker 2: at following those, rules and the MORE i start to
Speaker 2: realize that there's a real purpose to.
Speaker 1: It now you are now used to Be President biden
Speaker 1: and before That Nancy. Pelosi you're now the highest ranking
Speaker 1: Secular catholic In, america and with that comes a certain
Speaker 1: obligation to conduct yourself as Every catholic would wish you
Speaker 1: would conduct. Yourself have you felt that pressure.
Speaker 2: All the, time all the? Time AND i fail all
Speaker 2: the time to? YOU i, mean, look it's you, know
Speaker 2: you have debates with people and you try to be the.
Speaker 2: CHARITABLE i certainly fail to be. Charitable and you try
Speaker 2: to make the best version of an argument as, possible
Speaker 2: and you, know you try to conduct yourself in public
Speaker 2: life with maximal patience and. HUMILITY i think you try
Speaker 2: to do the best you, can and you recognize that
Speaker 2: you fail from time to, time and when you try to,
Speaker 2: fail you try to do. Better AND i write about
Speaker 2: this in the Book You. Know there was the famous
Speaker 2: Cat lady comment that you, KNOW i got the. CAMPAIGN
Speaker 2: i got myself in trouble during the twenty twenty four,
Speaker 2: campaign AND i sort of realized that there were two problems.
Speaker 2: There Number, ONE i just pissed a lot of people,
Speaker 2: off so they weren't sort of really able to hear
Speaker 2: the message THAT i was trying to, make and that
Speaker 2: to me was maybe the most important. Thing IS i
Speaker 2: was trying to make an argument that was very, real
Speaker 2: which is That, AMERICA i, think in the last twenty thirty,
Speaker 2: years has become more hostile and our leadership has become
Speaker 2: more blind to the plight of young. FAMILIES i think
Speaker 2: that's why THE covid thing was such a, disaster is
Speaker 2: you had a lot of people in positions of leadership
Speaker 2: who they weren't asking themselves questions like what happens when
Speaker 2: we mask three year? Olds? Indefinitely what effect does this
Speaker 2: have on young families when we try to force kids
Speaker 2: to sit at a computer screen instead of go to the.
Speaker 2: CLASSROOM i JUST i felt there was an important point to.
Speaker 2: Make and part of the era THAT i made is
Speaker 2: THAT i didn't make it in the right. WAY i
Speaker 2: turned people off instead of actually leading to some insight
Speaker 2: in some. Wisdom so you AND.
Speaker 1: I when you lived In virginia belonged to the same,
Speaker 1: parish AND i always went to the seven Am. MASS
Speaker 1: i think you rolled in at nine thirty or. ELEVEN
Speaker 1: i never crossed paths with you, there BUT i knew
Speaker 1: it was your.
Speaker 2: Church, also we try to do the eight.
Speaker 4: Thirty, OKAY i was at.
Speaker 1: Seven no, music Bad catholic music drives me, Crazy so
Speaker 1: it's a silent. Mass but on in that church Is Mark.
Speaker 1: Tison yesterday it took. It took a.
Speaker 4: Punch At mark. ONLINE i did in the burrito.
Speaker 1: Thing So i'm, curious do you ever regret that night
Speaker 1: that you took a punch at a Fellow catholic in your.
Speaker 2: Parish you know it was a joke. YOU i think
Speaker 2: that way at which you're you're, allowed you're allowed to
Speaker 2: you're allowed to punch, back and you're allowed to be
Speaker 2: a little bit. Humorous i'm sure it was not as
Speaker 2: chteritable AS i should have. Been but you know what
Speaker 2: what they. Is, Look i'm sure that he's a Good.
Speaker 2: CATHOLIC i certainly wish him the. BEST i think he's
Speaker 2: been a little bit unfair to me over the last
Speaker 2: couple of, weeks and SO i decided to hit back
Speaker 2: with a little bit of. SPICE i will say that
Speaker 2: if if, you if you read The, gospel you Know
Speaker 2: jesus has remarkable. Humility he also has a remarkable way with,
Speaker 2: words and So i'm always going to fall short of that.
Speaker 2: Example BUT i don't think that there's anything wrong with
Speaker 2: being a little spicy from time to. Time and you,
Speaker 2: know maybe in two years you'll all look back and,
Speaker 2: SAY i WISH i hadn't said, That but right NOW
Speaker 2: i feel pretty good about.
Speaker 4: That, Okay, okay.
Speaker 1: That's not going to be in that. CONFESSION i want
Speaker 1: to cover two big. Things one of the best lines
Speaker 1: in the, book one of the jobs of The christian,
Speaker 1: Statesman you're, right is to preserve the social cohesion that
Speaker 1: makes charity and generosity. Possible that is an ideal that's
Speaker 1: pretty hard to. Reach charity and generosity is something that
Speaker 1: should be expected of each. Person how do you try
Speaker 1: and do that.
Speaker 2: WELL i think one of the Things hugh is is
Speaker 2: you have to have an immigration policy that promotes social.
Speaker 2: Cohesion you, know when you send your kid to, school
Speaker 2: you want them to share the same language with the
Speaker 2: people that are in that. Classroom you want them to
Speaker 2: have something in common with the people that are in that.
Speaker 2: Classroom AND i do think that's possible with the tradition
Speaker 2: of immigration like The United states Of america. Has but
Speaker 2: one of the Criticisms i've had of some of the
Speaker 2: church leadership that's attacked our immigration. Policy and Again i'm
Speaker 2: not saying that we're always, perfect but the simple reality
Speaker 2: is that when you have too many immigrants who come
Speaker 2: in too, quickly with no proper procedure and no proper,
Speaker 2: vetting it actually does erode social. Trust it erodes the
Speaker 2: very foundation of cohesion that allows us to be generous
Speaker 2: to the poor and to ensure that you, know poor
Speaker 2: kids In america don't go hungry and don't lack you,
Speaker 2: know medical. Treatment those are important and good, things but
Speaker 2: those things exist on a foundation of social trust that
Speaker 2: sky high immigration actually. Erodes and So i've actually made
Speaker 2: this point in some of my conversations with The catholic
Speaker 2: leadership who criticized their immigration. POLICIES i, said, guys, look you,
Speaker 2: Know i'm all for being, charitable And i'm all for you,
Speaker 2: know you guys have a moral, witness And i'm not
Speaker 2: going to tell you shouldn't exercise that moral. Witness but
Speaker 2: you've got to recognize that our immigration policy is geared
Speaker 2: not just towards law and, order but towards ensuring That
Speaker 2: america has a functioning social. Feats you can't do that
Speaker 2: with too much and too rapid demographic.
Speaker 4: CHANGE i thought it.
Speaker 1: Was well argued in the, book AND i encourage people
Speaker 1: to read. That here's the most delicate AND i want
Speaker 1: to make SURE i put this the right. Way Ariel
Speaker 1: whitman will be on Later today's An israeli blogger and
Speaker 1: podcaster That i've been on his. PROGRAM i have a
Speaker 1: lot Of israelis on the. Show Haveviv Ready gore and
Speaker 1: Meet segahal and The Dave yea BECAUSE i want to
Speaker 1: figure out what they. Think there is a recurring. Thing
Speaker 1: they are afraid that, you YOU Jd vans are Anti
Speaker 1: israel or Anti, semitic AND i tell, them, no, no, no.
Speaker 1: No i've talked to the vice president since he ran
Speaker 1: for The. Senate you are getting that. Wrong part of
Speaker 1: that is The Catholic church's. Tradition you. Know John paul
Speaker 1: in two thousand went To jerusalem to make a. Tonement
Speaker 1: benedict wrote a book in twenty eleven, saying we are
Speaker 1: sorry because we caused the. Pogrims we've got a special
Speaker 1: obligation of The. Jews BUT i tell them that's not
Speaker 1: The vice. President are you frustrated by? That have you
Speaker 1: heard that suspicion that you're Anti, israel Anti, jewish Anti,
Speaker 1: semitic and what do you do about?
Speaker 4: It?
Speaker 2: Yeah i've certainly heard that, Criticism. HUGH i, MEAN i
Speaker 2: obviously think that it's. Unfair DO i AM i frustrated by?
Speaker 2: IT i mean, NO i think people are entitled to their,
Speaker 2: opinion AND i just have to do as good of
Speaker 2: a job AS i, can recognizing my. IMPERFECTIONS i have
Speaker 2: to do as good of a job AS i can
Speaker 2: and actually articulating WHAT i think and WHAT i. Believe
Speaker 2: and you, know my, Argument hugh On israel is, one
Speaker 2: it's a great. COUNTRY i love the. COUNTRY i love
Speaker 2: a lot of the people in. It some very very
Speaker 2: dear friends who are. THERE i also recognize that there
Speaker 2: are times when a Given israeli government is going to
Speaker 2: have interests that are different from The United states Of.
Speaker 2: America AND i think That, hugh a lot of young,
Speaker 2: people in particular Young, republicans but young people everywhere are
Speaker 2: looking at THE Us israel relationship and it's, really as you, Know,
Speaker 2: hugh built on a foundation of seventy eighty years of
Speaker 2: common values and common. Interests BUT i also think that
Speaker 2: sometimes when people defend The United States israel, relationship it's
Speaker 2: very easy to get trapped in slogans and you're the same,
Speaker 2: phrases and those phrases lose their. Meaning and so What
Speaker 2: i've tried to do is, say when we have shared
Speaker 2: interest with The, israelis they're a great partner and we're
Speaker 2: going to work. Together and when we don't have shared
Speaker 2: interests with The, israelis we're going to pursue our interests,
Speaker 2: distinctly with no, animosity of, course in the same way
Speaker 2: that we would do with The french of The, british
Speaker 2: two other allies where we have a great historical tradition
Speaker 2: of shared interests and shared. Values SO i really think
Speaker 2: that it's important for us to articulate why we work
Speaker 2: with the, country why we don't work with the. Country
Speaker 2: AND i think that there are Some israelis who are
Speaker 2: just so, used at least some people In israeli media
Speaker 2: who are so used to politicians just taking as a
Speaker 2: given That america And israel always have shared, interests WHEN
Speaker 2: i think the reality is that we often have shared
Speaker 2: interest but we don't. Always AND i don't think that
Speaker 2: makes me Anti, semitic AND i don't think it makes
Speaker 2: me anti israel JUST i think it makes me.
Speaker 4: Honest it.
Speaker 1: Doesn't and by the, way that is exactly the answer
Speaker 1: you gave to me when you were running For SENATE
Speaker 1: i don't know how many years, ago so you haven't,
Speaker 1: changed AND i that's WHAT i explained to My israeli.
Speaker 1: FRIENDS i want to close with a, suggestion Mister Vice
Speaker 1: president a the end of your book about my former
Speaker 1: Colleague Charlie. KIRK i was not close to him the
Speaker 1: way you. Are But I'm i'm the next generation older than.
Speaker 1: You you could be my, kids So i'm not. Surprised
Speaker 1: but it's a very generous thing that you wrote About
Speaker 1: charlie and what he was talking to you, about SO
Speaker 1: i could encourage people to read. That but there are
Speaker 1: a lot of Young catholic writers out, there and you
Speaker 1: mentioned rothoutit And Rod dreher is Not catholic But. Orthodox
Speaker 1: but you Got Ryan, anderson and you got people a
Speaker 1: little bit older Like Arthur brooks and And Frand mayer
Speaker 1: And Charles. Shape would you ever convene the younger ones
Speaker 1: and sort of get them talking about the church because
Speaker 1: you've got this great convening authority as the vice. President
Speaker 1: nobody turns down an invitation to come chat with the
Speaker 1: with the vice president about the.
Speaker 4: Church is that part of the? Job do you? Think?
Speaker 2: Absolutely let's let's do, It hugh AND i. WILL i
Speaker 2: will talk to you. Offline we'll get a good group.
Speaker 2: Together i'd love to get everybody together and chat about.
Speaker 1: Things i'll start With Ryan anderson and everyone out there
Speaker 1: listening start With. Communion it's a fabulous book and it's
Speaker 1: very well, read Mister Vice. President thanks for the extra time.
Speaker 1: TODAY i appreciate. It and a good.
Speaker 2: Week absolutely good to talk with.
Speaker 4: You thank.
Speaker 1: You my conversation now With Michelle, tafoya candidate For United
Speaker 1: States senate In. Minnesota, michelle good to see you. Again
Speaker 1: it's been a so cool day on the UU at.
Speaker 1: Show i'm talking with you With lisa dumuthe With Tom,
Speaker 1: wyler But i'm starting with you because voting starts. Today
Speaker 1: how do you feel about your?
Speaker 5: RACE i feel.
Speaker 6: GOOD i feel very, good But i'm not one to
Speaker 6: count my chickens before they.
Speaker 4: Hatch.
Speaker 6: Here that the the the Primaries, tuesday and we've been
Speaker 6: doing everything we can to finish strong through the, tape
Speaker 6: and that's what we're going to keep. Doing but at this,
Speaker 6: Point poland looks. Good but you, know Sometimes poland can fool.
Speaker 4: You, okay let's look ahead for a.
Speaker 1: Moment if you are the, nominee how are you gonna
Speaker 1: Beatte peggy? Flanagain because she's as radical as Elsiad but
Speaker 1: people don't know.
Speaker 6: That we've got to point that out to, everybody and
Speaker 6: actually some people do know. It, look she's the sitting lieutenant.
Speaker 6: Governor she's been at the right hand Of Tim walls
Speaker 6: for these last eight, years and she's proven to be
Speaker 6: maybe even more radical than he, is but at least
Speaker 6: so at least as. Much so it's going to be
Speaker 6: our job to really point out what that would mean
Speaker 6: for this state if she were to represent us in The,
Speaker 6: Senate so that's our. Job i've already talked To democrats
Speaker 6: who are willing to come over if she is the.
Speaker 6: Nominee SO i think we have a really good message
Speaker 6: and a great contrast to.
Speaker 4: Sell how does it work with the fraud?
Speaker 1: Investigation Do minnesotans like to talk about that or are
Speaker 1: they embarrassed by the fact that their state was hoodwinked
Speaker 1: out of billions of?
Speaker 5: Dollars depends what's side of the aisle there.
Speaker 6: On you, know you've Got Keith ellison And Tim walls
Speaker 6: refusing to talk about it at. All even these Two
Speaker 6: democrat candidates FOR Us senate don't talk about the. Fraud
Speaker 6: they don't acknowledge, it they don't address, it they don't
Speaker 6: ask for corrections or repercussions or. Accountability so that is a.
Speaker 6: Shame i'm willing to talk about it all day long
Speaker 6: because it really propelled me to want to run for this.
Speaker 4: Office, so, look it is.
Speaker 6: Bad Most minnesotans are terribly embarrassed by. It they're embarrassed By,
Speaker 6: Walls they're embarrassed By Keith ellison and the way he's handled.
Speaker 6: This and it's amazing to, Me, hugh THAT i talk
Speaker 6: to people who are you, know it's, summertime they're, traveling
Speaker 6: no matter where they, go if it's out of state
Speaker 6: or out of the, country they are embarrassed to say
Speaker 6: they are From minnesota because we've had years and years of.
Speaker 6: This now we've been at the epicenter of a lot of.
Speaker 6: Tumult but this was an unforced, error a self inflicted,
Speaker 6: wound this, fraud and people are angry and they want
Speaker 6: to see, accountability not just for the criminals who stole the,
Speaker 6: money but for the people who enabled. It and we
Speaker 6: hope that's.
Speaker 1: Coming talk to me about The somali Community Smalley american
Speaker 1: in recent arrivals From. Somalia are they active in? Politics
Speaker 1: are they embarrassed by the scandal which has been predominantly
Speaker 1: within their.
Speaker 6: COMMUNITY i some, Are some are ashamed of. That you,
Speaker 6: know they've come here as honest. Brokers they want to
Speaker 6: help build the, community they want to live. Here but
Speaker 6: there's a lot of not talking about. It, again when
Speaker 6: you talk to Ilhan, omar who is a very strong
Speaker 6: representative of that, community she doesn't want to talk about.
Speaker 6: It she'd rather focus on other. Things so it's it's,
Speaker 6: difficult you, KNOW i don't want to paint the whole
Speaker 6: community with a broad, brushstroke but it is in the
Speaker 6: paperwork that the vast majority of especially feeding our, future
Speaker 6: but even some of these medicaid fraud items were committed
Speaker 6: by this community and money being shipped back To. Somalia
Speaker 6: that's in the. Paperwork that's not an, opinion So i've address.
Speaker 1: It i've been broadcasting from a And tobata The patriot
Speaker 1: for twenty seven. Years i'm on In, duluth live in the.
Speaker 1: State there are a lot of great concerts, there Like
Speaker 1: Hender rocker And Scott johnson and the people at Power.
Speaker 1: Line but there's also The strip and it's just the
Speaker 1: left wingiest left wing newspaper in the. World are they
Speaker 1: trying to kill? You are They what are they doing to?
Speaker 6: YOU i don't they haven't tried to kill me. Yet
Speaker 6: but you approach them with a level of mistrust because
Speaker 6: they don't represent things. WELL a perfect example when you
Speaker 6: talk about this fraud last, year at the end of the,
Speaker 6: year you, know all the papers AND tv shows do
Speaker 6: their end of the year's. Story what were the biggest
Speaker 6: stories of twenty twenty? Five they did not mention fraud
Speaker 6: in The Star. Tribune, wow that's that's.
Speaker 5: Just just almost.
Speaker 6: Laughable actually it is. Laughable it's not almost. Laughable everyone
Speaker 6: looked at that and, said, well how could that not
Speaker 6: be one of the biggest stories of twenty twenty. Five
Speaker 6: so you, know we are careful and there are a
Speaker 6: lot of conservatives who are, very very reluctant to talk
Speaker 6: to a lot of the media outlets. Here but, LOOK
Speaker 6: i want to get my message. Out you're looking At Nick,
Speaker 6: shirley who did a lot of the work for, them
Speaker 6: and if not for that twenty four year, OLD i
Speaker 6: think he. Is now you got to wonder you talked
Speaker 6: About John, hinderocker THE ceo of The center for The American,
Speaker 6: experiment and his group has done a ton of research
Speaker 6: on this fraud and they're doing a fraud tour this
Speaker 6: summer where you.
Speaker 5: Get to connect the.
Speaker 6: Dots but Until Nick shirley made it really simple and
Speaker 6: showed everyone with his phone camera the quality.
Speaker 4: Leering, center clearing, center, breaking the liaring.
Speaker 5: Center.
Speaker 4: Yep, Yeah, Well, MICHELLE i want to close with. It
Speaker 4: what's your?
Speaker 1: Website if people want to get involved in help, you
Speaker 1: whether up In minnesota or across The United, states what's the?
Speaker 6: Website It's Michelle tafoya dot. Com it's really, Simple, michelle
Speaker 6: with ONE L T a F o Y. A i
Speaker 6: imagine if people you know put it in their search,
Speaker 6: engine they'll be directed to. It but we would love to.
Speaker 6: Help we want To this is a great, State. Hugh
Speaker 6: you know that you've been. Here there's so much to
Speaker 6: love About. Minnesota we want to get it back on
Speaker 6: track and.
Speaker 7: We can do.
Speaker 6: This you can be the first campaign in twenty. Years
Speaker 6: Norm coleman was the Last republican senator for the state Of.
Speaker 7: Minnesota we're going to break that.
Speaker 6: Streak we're gonna do it.
Speaker 1: Well if you're, Close i'll come to The fair. AGAIN
Speaker 1: i hadn't broadcast from The fair in probably five, years
Speaker 1: But i'm sure you'll be living there at the end
Speaker 1: of the. Month Michelle, tafoya good to see you. Again
Speaker 1: michelletafoya dot. Com we're Any Race. America I'm Hugh. Hewett
Speaker 1: it Is Minnesota day on The Huqwitt, show because they've
Speaker 1: begun voting there and they will wrap up On tuesday
Speaker 1: next in their governor and senator. Races i'm pleased to
Speaker 1: welcome The speaker of The Minnesota, House lisa De, muth
Speaker 1: who's running for. Governor, Welcome Madam. Speaker how goes the
Speaker 1: campaign Up?
Speaker 8: North, well great to have a conversation with, You, hugh
Speaker 8: and things are going very well in our race for.
Speaker 8: Governor this is my opportunity AS i run for, governor
Speaker 8: win the primary On, tuesday but to really Give minnesota
Speaker 8: a comeback that is so desperately needed here in our,
Speaker 8: state given all of the fraud and all of the
Speaker 8: failures that we have had Under democrat control here in
Speaker 8: the state for too.
Speaker 1: Long your press office put out your statement today on illegal.
Speaker 1: Immigration why is that important to be putting out.
Speaker 4: A week before the?
Speaker 8: Vote you, know WHEN i look at the issues of
Speaker 8: illegal immigration, here especially in the state Of, MINNESOTA i
Speaker 8: have fought in my time in the, legislature specifically during
Speaker 8: my time As speaker of The, house to end some
Speaker 8: of the policies That democrats have put in place that
Speaker 8: has Made minnesota become a magnet for illegal immigration and.
Speaker 8: FRAUD i was able to end the taxpayer funding of
Speaker 8: illegal immigrant health. Care it was four times what have
Speaker 8: been projected Under democrat. Control and so making sure that
Speaker 8: we are following federal immigration laws is a priority for.
Speaker 8: Me and for the state Of minnesota to make sure
Speaker 8: that our taxpayer dollars are, safe that we're Providing minnesota
Speaker 8: benefits For. Minnesotans AND i do believe that we need
Speaker 8: to look at some changes with our federal immigration. Laws
Speaker 8: but offering amnesty such As Mike, lindell one of the
Speaker 8: Other republicans actually running for, governor an amnesty plan that
Speaker 8: he's put into, place that is not the answer For.
Speaker 1: Minnesota all, right, now tell me about how you would
Speaker 1: tackle the fraud dirigible that is hovering over the state Of.
Speaker 4: Minnesota if you're the, governor you, Know, Hugh.
Speaker 8: Fraud In minnesota has, exploded AND i would say that
Speaker 8: there has been incompetence after sixteen years Of democrat control
Speaker 8: here in the state Of, minnesota but especially under the
Speaker 8: Failed walls administration over the last eight. Years it is
Speaker 8: a complete failure and waste of our tax. Dollars for
Speaker 8: much too, long The minnesota media And democrats In minnesota
Speaker 8: would not take fraud. Seriously my time in the, LEGISLATURE
Speaker 8: i have pushed AND i was able to get through
Speaker 8: An office Of Inspectors. GENERAL i was able to put
Speaker 8: more whistleblower protections in but that was only after an independent,
Speaker 8: YouTuber Nick shirley came in at the end of last
Speaker 8: year and exploded what was known or what we As
Speaker 8: republicans that expected or thought was actually going on in our.
Speaker 8: State he exploded That democrats no longer could hide from.
Speaker 4: IT i put.
Speaker 8: Together a fraud prevention an agency oversight committee WHEN i
Speaker 8: Became speaker a year, ago and Again democrats can't hide
Speaker 8: from the fraud that they have allowed to go on
Speaker 8: under their.
Speaker 1: Watch all, right last, Question lisa De, Mute you And
Speaker 1: Mike lindell are running for the nomination to go Against Amy.
Speaker 1: Klobuchark why are you the better candidate to beat? Her
Speaker 1: she's going to be formidable in the general election just
Speaker 1: because she's been there. FOREVER i, mean she's been On
Speaker 1: minnesota's ballot forever and hadn't been county and then in The.
Speaker 1: Senate why are you better Than lindell to beat?
Speaker 8: HER i have the best chance of Beating Amy klobashar And.
Speaker 8: Hugh WHEN i got into this, RACE i never thought
Speaker 8: it was going to be. Easy But i'm also the
Speaker 8: one that led The republican caucus in The house to
Speaker 8: ending The democrat control in the. State in twenty twenty.
Speaker 8: Four the reason THAT i am better For minnesota IS
Speaker 8: i have proven. Leadership i've gone up Against democrats already
Speaker 8: in one with Becoming, speaker helping to end fraud or
Speaker 8: at least expose.
Speaker 5: It and there is more that needs to be. DONE
Speaker 5: i have the.
Speaker 8: Ability to work across the aisle because we've been in
Speaker 8: a tie in The house Of, representatives And i'm the
Speaker 8: best one to. Gain, yes The republican, votes but those
Speaker 8: independent votes or Those democrats that are tired of what
Speaker 8: has happened with their party here In minnesota and what
Speaker 8: has been allowed to go. On SO i am ready
Speaker 8: to win this primary On tuesday night and then go
Speaker 8: on and Give Amy Klobashar Senator klobshar the biggest fight
Speaker 8: For minnesota that she has ever.
Speaker 4: Seen what is your?
Speaker 1: Website your campaign website if people want to help you
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Speaker 8: Week great for M n dot. Com that's L i
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Speaker 1: Process lisa formn dot. Com nice to meet, You LISA.
Speaker 1: D mute and good luck next. Week, uh don't go Anywhere.
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Speaker 4: Carolina first stay with, Us welcome back in, there time
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Speaker 1: D muth is going to be our next congresswoman From North,
Speaker 1: carolina First Congressional. District i'll call her colonel because that's
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Speaker 1: defense for. Cybersecurity who recruited, you who recruited you to
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Speaker 5: Thing, hey SO i ran last? Time who recruited? ME
Speaker 5: a bunch of local folks here In North carolina were
Speaker 5: looking at me as somebody who is a strong, conservative
Speaker 5: as a good background of national security. ECONOMICS i ran
Speaker 5: my own small, Business SO i got recruited last, time
Speaker 5: lost by a point and a, half and we got
Speaker 5: redistricted to a slightly More republican. District i'm not a,
Speaker 5: quitter couldn't walk away from this race and just fired
Speaker 5: up to. Go so kind of got recruited by the
Speaker 5: local folks who wanted to see a Strong republican run
Speaker 5: who understood the economy and was close To President.
Speaker 1: Trump, Now, COLONEL i believe the first district is the
Speaker 1: northern border Of North. Carolina how did they tweak your?
Speaker 5: Boundaries they added a few more southern counties so it
Speaker 5: goes all along the, beach and it added five, counties
Speaker 5: took away a couple more that were central in the,
Speaker 5: state and added some very conservative counties further down.
Speaker 4: South, oh very.
Speaker 1: Good we like me, Districting so tell us about your.
Speaker 1: Opponent we do just what the race is turning.
Speaker 5: On, HEY i think this race is going to turn
Speaker 5: on the fact that this district is a very poor
Speaker 5: district and it's been that way for. Decades it's Been
Speaker 5: democrat for a very long, time for, decades and it's
Speaker 5: been at the bottom of the poverty, level not just
Speaker 5: statewide but nationally for literally. Decades my opponent Is Don.
Speaker 5: Davis we call him do Nothing. Don he hasn't moved
Speaker 5: the needle at all on, prosperity on, business on, jobs
Speaker 5: on anything in the. District he's done just literally. Nothing
Speaker 5: we call him do Nothing. Don AND i think people
Speaker 5: are ready for a. Change the folks that are new
Speaker 5: in the district in Those republican counties are definitely not
Speaker 5: going to put up with, him AND i think folks
Speaker 5: throughout the district have realized nothing will get better as
Speaker 5: long as you've got A democrat Like Don davis in.
Speaker 1: Charge let's remember what is your website so that people
Speaker 1: can help you out with a contribution or volunteer. Time
Speaker 1: how do they find The dumouth?
Speaker 5: Campaign it's actually The buckout.
Speaker 4: Campaign but on, Sorry, laurie that's, okay that's.
Speaker 9: Okay, hey it's she's great, too by the, Way but
Speaker 9: It's Laurie buckout L A u R I e B
Speaker 9: u C k h O U t For congress dot.
Speaker 5: Com easy to.
Speaker 1: Find, YEAH i just had On lisa From minnesota right before.
Speaker 1: You that's WHY i was looking at my sheet AND
Speaker 1: i forgot it is. Candidate so let's focus On Lori.
Speaker 1: Buckout Colonel, Buckout, colonel you've been watching the current battle With.
Speaker 1: Iran you know what is involved with, this especially on
Speaker 1: the cyber. Side they're taking down some of our water quality.
Speaker 1: Programs do you think we're punching back in the cyber?
Speaker 1: Arena we just don't know about.
Speaker 5: It that's exactly the. Case you, know these programs are highly.
Speaker 5: Classifying you've got to have a need to, know and you, know,
Speaker 5: frankly the enemy doesn't need to know everything that we're.
Speaker 5: Doing they don't need to have our. TTPs they don't
Speaker 5: need to know every time that something happens that it
Speaker 5: is even necessarily us and that it can be attributed to.
Speaker 5: Us SO i know we're punching. BACK i know we're
Speaker 5: taking care of, business and, frankly the less a lot
Speaker 5: of folks know about, that the.
Speaker 4: Better i'll leave it at that.
Speaker 1: Then But Colonel buckett talked to us about the, district
Speaker 1: and if you've got a military, President i'm kind of
Speaker 1: amazed there's Any democrats From North carolina given the number
Speaker 1: of retirees you have from the military they're and active.
Speaker 5: Duty, yeah, absolutely so for. Starters there's over eighty thousand
Speaker 5: veterans in my, district and we have not been taking
Speaker 5: care of veterans very well in the. District President trump
Speaker 5: has made a big, difference but we can definitely do
Speaker 5: better in my district. Alone i've got The Coast guard
Speaker 5: base In Elizabeth city And i've got Cherry Port Marine
Speaker 5: corps Air, Station so those are the two big ones
Speaker 5: THAT i Have Camp La june is just right out
Speaker 5: of my, district And Seymour Air Force base is just
Speaker 5: right out of my, district so we dry in retirees
Speaker 5: from both of those. Areas there's a lot of work
Speaker 5: to be done in supporting both of those installations and
Speaker 5: making sure that we're bringing jobs. There we're bringing more programs,
Speaker 5: there especially In Marine. Corps Air Station Cherry point is
Speaker 5: a fantastic launching point For atlantic operations and a Fantastic
Speaker 5: East coast launching point for, operations so we want to
Speaker 5: bring more capabilities down there to show this is a
Speaker 5: great place for the military to do.
Speaker 1: Business where did you spend most of your, Career, Colonel
Speaker 1: was it In North carolina or all over the?
Speaker 5: World, no pretty much all over the, World SO i
Speaker 5: was an army. BRAT i grew up all over the
Speaker 5: place to include In. Europe was actually born In. Virginia
Speaker 5: when my dad was at The. Pentagon he Was World
Speaker 5: war Two, Korea. Vietnam my mother was A World war
Speaker 5: two the light. Nurse she was pretty bad, Too so
Speaker 5: dad retired WHEN i was a little girl in The
Speaker 5: Cenandeau valley and THEN i went to school ON rotc.
Speaker 5: Scholarship got sent all, over spent time in The Middle,
Speaker 5: east tours In, iraq a lot of time In, europe
Speaker 5: and a little time IN dc WHEN i retired out
Speaker 5: of The. Pentagon so does do?
Speaker 1: Nothing don debate. YOU i doubt he really would want
Speaker 1: to do, That colonel Buck, OUT.
Speaker 5: I don't think, so you. KNOW i, Mean i'm pretty
Speaker 5: on to go after anything. THERE i feel very comfortable
Speaker 5: with the, issues of, course national, security global, issues but
Speaker 5: very comfortable with issues in the district and pointing out
Speaker 5: the facts that this district needs. Help it needs a
Speaker 5: lot of. Work it needs somebody who's got some, energy
Speaker 5: some understanding of, economics and is ready to bring businesses
Speaker 5: down here and bring.
Speaker 4: JOBS i also assume you know how to work With.
Speaker 1: Congress if you were acting assistant secretary AT DoD you
Speaker 1: know how that, works so you could be on the
Speaker 1: other side and just on the first day know what
Speaker 1: you wanted to.
Speaker 5: Do Right and, no, ABSOLUTELY i MEAN i was privileged
Speaker 5: to work as Assistant secretary of De men's For cyber
Speaker 5: working on getting some major budgets passed for for, cybersecurity
Speaker 5: for offensive, cyber for the military and other, organizations SO
Speaker 5: i know how to do. THAT i feel comfortable doing.
Speaker 5: That that's SOMETHING i want to lean, into is that
Speaker 5: experience THAT i had to help this.
Speaker 1: District and so last question about, affordability which is the
Speaker 1: million dollar word in this campaign. Cycle are they feeling
Speaker 1: it In North carolina one or does that somehow escape
Speaker 1: the angel of eye prices swooping over?
Speaker 5: It you, KNOW i think everybody's feeling it to a.
Speaker 5: Degree but you look at What President's trump has. Done
Speaker 5: the economy is actually doing better THAN i think the
Speaker 5: naysayers want to have it. Do gas prices are going,
Speaker 5: down of, course they're fluctuating based On. Iran nobody talks
Speaker 5: about egg prices anymore because they've gotten so much. Lower so,
Speaker 5: YEAH i think affordability continues to be an. Issue as
Speaker 5: a national security, PERSON i have to lean into the
Speaker 5: fact that war With, iran or this ongoing tussle With,
Speaker 5: iran whatever we want to call, it is definitely worth
Speaker 5: it for keeping the keeping nuclear weapons out of the
Speaker 5: hands of people who are just so. Unstable SO i
Speaker 5: think we're doing all, Right dana, here we can do,
Speaker 5: better all.
Speaker 1: Right so last, question, Website let's make sure people know
Speaker 1: where to go to contribute and to help you out
Speaker 1: if they can volunteer.
Speaker 5: Absolutely thank you so. Much and It's lori L A
Speaker 5: U R I e last name buck out b u
Speaker 5: C k h O U t For congress dot.
Speaker 4: Com and is the four the number four or is
Speaker 4: it FO r.
Speaker 5: F O?
Speaker 4: R thank?
Speaker 1: You Louri buckout f O R congress dot. Com louribuckout
Speaker 1: f O R congress Dot. Com thank, you. COLONEL i
Speaker 1: look forward to talking to you again before the general
Speaker 1: election In. November we want to remind everyone this is
Speaker 1: one of the gettable flips for The Republican THE nrcc
Speaker 1: told me, so AND i believe. Them they know their own. Numbers,
Speaker 1: Colonel thank you so. Much i'll be right back In.
Speaker 1: America stay tuned to the CONFE a. Show welcome back In.
Speaker 4: America on you.
Speaker 1: Here Tom weiler joins me. Now he is also a
Speaker 1: candidate for The United States senate And. Minnesota, Hello, tom
Speaker 1: whin's the? Vote how do you feel about?
Speaker 4: It, Hello.
Speaker 10: Hugh vote is actually today any day up until Next,
Speaker 10: tuesday the eleventh Of. August And i'm feeling. Good we
Speaker 10: are run sort of a submarine style. Campaign we've been
Speaker 10: stealthy early and we're getting our name out right. Now
Speaker 10: we're having a big search here at the end everywhere
Speaker 10: from yard signs all the way.
Speaker 3: To talking with, You. Hugh SO i feel pretty.
Speaker 10: GOOD i think we're gonna shock a lot of folks
Speaker 10: here In minnesota and get a big win in the
Speaker 10: primary and move on To november.
Speaker 1: THREE i expect The democrats Of minnesota to Nominate Peggy,
Speaker 1: flanagan who's a. Radical why are you the best candidate
Speaker 1: to take her on a?
Speaker 10: Transition it just comes out to, experience, UNDERSTANDING uh tested
Speaker 10: leadership throughout my military and national security, career and fundamentally
Speaker 10: a problem solving me an acumen that THAT i can
Speaker 10: uniquely bring to this job to attack the, many many
Speaker 10: problems that Face United States, senate make develop, solutions get
Speaker 10: team teams In congress and The senate to support those,
Speaker 10: solutions actually get the ball across the goal line that
Speaker 10: will fundamentally Improve minnesota's. Lives and that's Why i'm. Running
Speaker 10: solve problems IN dc and help solve problems In Saint
Speaker 10: paul to Improve Minnesota minnesotan's lives back here in the
Speaker 10: great state Of.
Speaker 1: Minnesota do you think Most minnesota voters understand what it
Speaker 1: took to become a commander in the submarine fleet as you.
Speaker 10: Were you know that's that's, uh not, exactly BUT i
Speaker 10: think there a lot of them are understanding when we
Speaker 10: when we meet, people has a chance to interact with.
Speaker 10: People like, Today i'm out At, farmfest you, know we we.
Speaker 10: Were we just get a really good, reception and it
Speaker 10: seems like almost everyone we talked to walks away Saying
Speaker 10: i'm going to vote for. You i'm going to talk
Speaker 10: to my friends and. Family so the word of mouth
Speaker 10: is really what's going to get us across the finish,
Speaker 10: LINE i, Think and you, know, politicians especially for a,
Speaker 10: submariners is something you need to jump into talking about
Speaker 10: yourself so. Much BUT i have developed just a simple
Speaker 10: matrix That i've sent out on all my social media
Speaker 10: And i've, written bought some maagine the newspapers actually and
Speaker 10: all this simply is the sixteen committees in The United
Speaker 10: States senate and it compares my experience professional experience with
Speaker 10: the other candidates in the.
Speaker 3: Race AND i got a lot Of greens on my, side.
Speaker 10: And other candidates have a lot of, Reds so green
Speaker 10: demonstrates experience and with, THAT i THINK i Think minnesota's
Speaker 10: understanding AND i will be the most effective senator Because
Speaker 10: i'm enough to BE i know enough to be.
Speaker 3: Dangerous in The United States, senate.
Speaker 1: There have been a lot of debates Between republicans And.
Speaker 1: Democrats what did The republicans In minnesota disagree?
Speaker 3: About, well you bring up.
Speaker 10: Debates, unfortunately just YESTERDAY i was shutn out of another
Speaker 10: debate here In. Minnesota And Michelle tafoya is Running i'm
Speaker 10: running against her in The republican, primary and she has
Speaker 10: basically run The biden basement. Campaign, Unfortunately i've never had
Speaker 10: the chance to debate.
Speaker 3: Her but she doesn't.
Speaker 10: Really have any any in depth solutions to the Problems minnesota.
Speaker 10: Space she just sort of sticks with the talking. Points
Speaker 10: i've developed a just a simple table with the nine
Speaker 10: most common problems That i've Heard minnesota's.
Speaker 3: Discuss with my.
Speaker 10: Nine, solutions AND i do deviate from the Standard republican
Speaker 10: and a lot of those. ISSUES i addressed, IMMIGRATION i
Speaker 10: addressed The american, divisiveness and right at the top of,
Speaker 10: course It's minnesota fraud and The minnesota struggling. Economy AND
Speaker 10: i have, ideas specific solutions to help one in fraud
Speaker 10: that's just straight accountability and holding people responsible And, secondly
Speaker 10: to start propelling The minnesota economy. Forward we've been stagging
Speaker 10: up here for a number of years Under Governor, walls
Speaker 10: in twenty years of democratic.
Speaker 3: Control so it's time to chart a new course From.
Speaker 10: Minnesota and we're getting, it getting a lot of folks,
Speaker 10: excited AND i think we're gonna do quite well In tuesday's.
Speaker 1: Primary what do you say about the, Fraud John, MOYLER.
Speaker 10: I just, one it's, unacceptable and, two it's the accountability
Speaker 10: on the people on.
Speaker 3: Top when you're a, SUBMARINER i was on gonna be
Speaker 3: THE exo of THE Uss.
Speaker 10: Michigan when you're THE, xo number two in, command everything
Speaker 10: that occurs on that ship and with the crew of
Speaker 10: that ship is your. Responsibility i'm running against The lieutenant
Speaker 10: governor Of Penny fillin, again the number two of the,
Speaker 10: state and she has yet to admit any of the
Speaker 10: nine to twenty billion dollars of fraud fraud money stolen
Speaker 10: From minnesota tax payers that she's.
Speaker 3: Yet to admit she has any responsibility of.
Speaker 10: That so the biggest thing is just holding people, accountable
Speaker 10: all the way up to the leading folks in, government
Speaker 10: all the way down to Every minnesota and parent who
Speaker 10: received a kickback on a monthly basis because they got
Speaker 10: their kid of fake autism. Diagnosis and that number is
Speaker 10: in the. Thousands unfortunately up here In minnesota and right
Speaker 10: now we've held a couple of people accountable by the
Speaker 10: numbers of like one hundred and fifty two hundred.
Speaker 3: PEOPLE i, mean there's thousands. Here and it needs to
Speaker 3: be a.
Speaker 10: Proactive old people accountable and the punishment.
Speaker 3: Has to have a turn. Effect those are the two
Speaker 3: ways we need to stop fraud here In.
Speaker 1: Minnesota And Tom, wyder last, question what's your website for
Speaker 1: people who are, Listening.
Speaker 3: Tom wiler twenty twenty six dot.
Speaker 10: Com for All minnesotas out, there get out and, vote
Speaker 10: and LIKE i tell, everyone vote early and often. Legally of,
Speaker 10: course you vote for me today or anytime before Next,
Speaker 10: Tuesday august, eleventh and then hopefully you can vote for
Speaker 10: me again on the.
Speaker 1: Verb, Third Tom, weiler good to see you, again old
Speaker 1: friend FROM dc.
Speaker 4: Day it's good to see a.
Speaker 1: Commander don't give up the, ship as we say at
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Speaker 4: Channel welcome back In.
Speaker 1: America I'm Hugh hugh At Josh crassa or joined, me
Speaker 1: editor in chief Of Jewish, Insider. Josh welcome. BACK a
Speaker 1: couple of things to cover with you first next, Time
Speaker 1: i'm Gonna Havel whitman. On he's the op ed editor
Speaker 1: At globes In. Israel he's the host of The Western spirit.
Speaker 1: Podcast have you come Across aral?
Speaker 12: YET i definitely know who he, is BUT i have
Speaker 12: not been a regular reader of his.
Speaker 1: Work pretty interesting. Character i'll recommend him to. You, SECONDLY
Speaker 1: i had The Vice president on today And i'm going
Speaker 1: to replay the interview next. HOUR i asked him about
Speaker 1: the belief widespread Among israelis and Some American, jews that
Speaker 1: he's Anti israel or Anti, semitic and he rejects it
Speaker 1: fundamentally and. Thoroughly same answered gave me like five years. Ago,
Speaker 1: No i'm very Pro. Israel it's just our interest sometimes.
Speaker 1: Diverge is that enough for him to make the.
Speaker 12: Case, Well, LOOK i think there are two two parts
Speaker 12: to the concern among a lot Of Jewish americans About
Speaker 12: Vice President. Fance, LOOK i think he's Perfectly he's been
Speaker 12: more critical Of israel than a lot of other leading
Speaker 12: figures in the. Administration but you, know certainly compared to
Speaker 12: we're a lot of, folks especially on the left ar and,
Speaker 12: POLITICS i, mean vance his views are not not. All
Speaker 12: but you, KNOW i think it's less about his views
Speaker 12: On israel that he that he's in his critiques in
Speaker 12: recent months on, podcasts AND i think it's more about
Speaker 12: his associations and his refusal to denounce folks Like Tucker
Speaker 12: carlson on the Anti semitic far right that have raised
Speaker 12: concerns in The jewish.
Speaker 4: Community so when.
Speaker 12: You have both those associations and his unwillingness to condemn
Speaker 12: the outright Anti semitism coming from those podcast, figures uh
Speaker 12: and and and and those associations he, has and then
Speaker 12: you combine that, with you, know the more vocal critiques
Speaker 12: he's offered Of israel and skepticism of some of the
Speaker 12: military engagements uh, internally at least within within the private
Speaker 12: conversations in The White. House that's what's raising a lot
Speaker 12: of a lot of. CONCERNS i don't THINK i think
Speaker 12: there's plenty of room for him to kind of make
Speaker 12: nice and and and and and and you, know regain
Speaker 12: confidence among a lot of Pro israel. Voters but there
Speaker 12: are a lot of reasons beyond just his most recent
Speaker 12: comments About israel that have raised.
Speaker 1: Questions let's probe THAT i have been blasting, al Said
Speaker 1: Abdul Rahman. Il say, YOU i don't want to get
Speaker 1: him mad at me from his pronouncing his. Name Abduur
Speaker 1: Rahman el said The Senate Democratic radical Candidate. Michigan he
Speaker 1: is like stabled at the hipto Son piker who's just
Speaker 1: An islamist anti semi and.
Speaker 4: He goes everywhere with him and they stream.
Speaker 1: Together that's an association that he has to answer for
Speaker 1: the vice. PRESIDENT i actually haven't seen him With Tucker
Speaker 1: carlson since he became vice president of.
Speaker 12: YOU i, mean you have to go, BACK i think
Speaker 12: to The charlie AND i think right after The Charlie kirk.
Speaker 12: ASSASSINATION i think they both. Did DID i think he
Speaker 12: filled in on on the there was a show they did,
Speaker 12: together or he filled In but, YEAH i mean it's
Speaker 12: been a little bit of of. Time but the big,
Speaker 12: question both internally and, publicly is THAT i think a
Speaker 12: lot of folks would like to, see you, know someone
Speaker 12: who has a close relationship with with With Tucker carlson
Speaker 12: to be much more outspoken on the Anti semitism that's
Speaker 12: come from from his end of the far.
Speaker 1: Right but it's that it's the assertion of a close
Speaker 1: relationship THAT i don't believe is born. NOW i, MEAN
Speaker 1: i don't see him on his. PODCAST i don't see
Speaker 1: Him palin around a close relationship is A Son piker
Speaker 1: And elsayatt would you agree with? That that's a close.
Speaker 1: Relationship oh of.
Speaker 12: COURSE i, mean, Look i'll say it And piker were
Speaker 12: campaigned in the final day together of the of the
Speaker 12: of the, Primary so, yes and then there's a much bigger.
Speaker 12: Difference BUT i, also you, know it's pretty well documented
Speaker 12: that That carlson was a big champion Of trump Picking
Speaker 12: vance as his running made in the twenty twenty four
Speaker 12: in the run up to the twenty twenty four reelection
Speaker 12: or election. Campaign and you, know, again there there have
Speaker 12: been it's not just that. Relationship there have been moments
Speaker 12: on college. Campuses you've talked about This hue When vance
Speaker 12: has spoken At Turning point, rallies and there's a real,
Speaker 12: vile noxious.
Speaker 4: Anti semitism that comes up with some of the.
Speaker 12: Speakers AND i think there's been a widespread concern that
Speaker 12: The vance's pushback has not been as aggressive as it
Speaker 12: could be from a leader in the country as the
Speaker 12: vice president of The United.
Speaker 1: States, okay the transcriptors area and go over and read
Speaker 1: it at h hewitt dot. Com see what his answer.
Speaker 1: Is let's talk about el, SAID i believe you you
Speaker 1: posted that while they're making nice in public In. Michigan
Speaker 1: N Alie stevens AND l, Said in, fact those wounds are too.
Speaker 1: DEEP i can't imagine An american jew voting FOR l.
Speaker 1: Said can you.
Speaker 12: Look if you look at the precinct by precinct results
Speaker 12: In jewish communities Across, MICHIGAN i, mean it looks about
Speaker 12: seventy five to eighty percent Of jewish. VOTERS i will
Speaker 12: probably get a more specific number when we can kind
Speaker 12: of crunch do a little more number, crunching but it
Speaker 12: looks like it's about a four to five to one
Speaker 12: margin in the Most jewish areas In, detroit in The
Speaker 12: Oakland county from For stevens over L sai ed in
Speaker 12: The democratic. Primary SO i, mean, look it's. Good there's
Speaker 12: gonna be a big Swing hugh in the general. Election
Speaker 12: we reported A Jewish insider that there are a lot
Speaker 12: of very Prominent Democratic jewish leaders that are already either
Speaker 12: coming out for Supporting Mike, rodgers very Mainstream republican former,
Speaker 12: congressman or very close to doing. That so you're going
Speaker 12: to be SEEING i think a lot of notable names
Speaker 12: in The democratic, community in the moderate space in The
Speaker 12: jewish Among jewish leaders and. Beyond there's a real alarm
Speaker 12: about the radicalism That elsad brings to the. Table, now
Speaker 12: look on the other, side you Have stevens And Gretchen,
Speaker 12: whitmer the, governor and a lot of the leaders of
Speaker 12: the party endorsing L sayeed and getting to playing team. Ball,
Speaker 12: Notably Hillary, skulton one of the more Moderate democrats in the,
Speaker 12: delegation has been very outspoken and said has not said
Speaker 12: she would Support El, saied.
Speaker 4: But a lot of Other democrats.
Speaker 12: Have and it's going to be a partisan mud fight
Speaker 12: for A senate election that could very well decide who
Speaker 12: has The senate.
Speaker 1: Majority Has Alissa slotkin the Other democratic, Senator Gary peters is.
Speaker 1: Retiring Melissa slotkin Beat Mike rogers by a very narrow
Speaker 1: margin in twenty twenty. Four Has Alissa slotkin put her
Speaker 1: arms Around el sai.
Speaker 6: Ed.
Speaker 12: She's. ENDORSED i don't know if she's put her arms around.
Speaker 12: Him i'm not sure if she was at there was
Speaker 12: our unity rally for the. Party i'm not sure if
Speaker 12: she was. There BUT i do know that she quickly
Speaker 12: endorsed him after he won the. Nomination AND i think
Speaker 12: one thing if you talk To Hailey stephens, supporters that
Speaker 12: they were very. Privately i've talked to a number of them.
Speaker 12: Privately very upset about is That, slockin even with the
Speaker 12: governor's endorsement Of, Stevens slopkin.
Speaker 4: Stayed on the.
Speaker 12: Sideline she's a national Security democrat who's thinking maybe of
Speaker 12: running for president as a, moderate as someone who's going
Speaker 12: to steer the party in a more moderate, direction and
Speaker 12: she did not have the gumption to endorse the candidate
Speaker 12: who much more closely a Matgined and she's you, know
Speaker 12: if you can't endorse against someone who's aligned with A
Speaker 12: san piker and his Anti american, views and you claim
Speaker 12: to be a nation FORMER cia, agent a national security
Speaker 12: leader in the, party and that tells you a lot
Speaker 12: about where The Democratic party is right. Now And hailey
Speaker 12: steven supporters think If slockin, endorsed given how close that race,
Speaker 12: was If slockin had the courage to Endorse, stevens she
Speaker 12: probably would have won the nomination and prevented a.
Speaker 4: ROUND i think you're, Right.
Speaker 1: Josh we'll follow that story very very closely with you
Speaker 1: throughout the next three. Months Follow josh on Exit josh Cross.
Speaker 1: Ower you meet him at The Jewish. Insider you can
Speaker 1: subscribe for free for two weeks Over jewish insider Dot.
Speaker 1: Com thank, You. Josh stay Tuned. America i'll be welcome Back.
Speaker 1: AMERICA a few weeks, AGO i found a New israeli,
Speaker 1: Podcaster Ariel. Whitman he actually found. ME i was enjoyed
Speaker 1: my time on his, Podcast The Western, spirit SO i
Speaker 1: thought we'd have a home and away. Discussion, Ariel welcome
Speaker 1: to The huhuite. Show tell people a little bit about
Speaker 1: yourself and what you do In.
Speaker 13: Israel So i'm the op ed editor At israel's most
Speaker 13: read financial. Newspaper we're sort of like The Wolf Street
Speaker 13: journal's sister. Paper we actually take stuff from, them so
Speaker 13: we work. Together AND i have the, podcast which is
Speaker 13: my own, thing which we did which was a lot of.
Speaker 7: Fun by the, way it went on much longer THAN i.
Speaker 7: Thought it was so much. Fun, well thank you.
Speaker 1: For having WHAT i do how many times a week
Speaker 1: to do The Western, spirit and let's tell people how
Speaker 1: to find The Western spirit so that they subscribe and
Speaker 1: like The Western. SPIRIT i thought it was an excellent.
Speaker 13: Conversation SO i try to upload about three episodes a,
Speaker 13: week and the idea came.
Speaker 7: OUT i THINK i told you about.
Speaker 13: IT i about five six years ago lost almost all my,
Speaker 13: eyesight and my wife was, like you have to do
Speaker 13: something for, yourself.
Speaker 7: AND i was, like what SHOULD i? DO i, SAID
Speaker 7: i like to talk to.
Speaker 13: People and it was right Before october. SEVENTH i started
Speaker 13: In hebrew and THEN i did an episode In english
Speaker 13: just because it was, interesting and suddenly tons of people started.
Speaker 7: Watching so it just you, know ballooned from.
Speaker 13: There so that's where that's how everything, happened just by.
Speaker 7: Chance and uh so would.
Speaker 1: You locate yourself on these rarely political spectrum for the
Speaker 1: listeners who are pretty conversion with?
Speaker 7: It SO i used to work in the The coude.
Speaker 13: In about at this point in twenty, nineteen Before, corona
Speaker 13: there was the three. Elections remember there was like one
Speaker 13: election and no government was, formed then two months later
Speaker 13: another one and so during that TIME i worked in
Speaker 13: the De coude And i've always been even BEFORE i
Speaker 13: was working and writing in the newspapers, HERE i was
Speaker 13: very right wing and, volunteering AND i organized an entire
Speaker 13: group of people that became THE cud. Members our hope
Speaker 13: was to try to get more free market oriented members
Speaker 13: Of kannesset into higher places in the The.
Speaker 7: Coude lists of The kannesset in the past three four.
Speaker 13: Years i've been very disillusioned With, nataniello probably even, longer
Speaker 13: but more from the fact THAT i don't think he's
Speaker 13: being right wing, enough if that makes any. Sense SO
Speaker 13: i would Say i'm more on the is ready. RIGHT
Speaker 13: i also think that now the big discussion of this
Speaker 13: election will be about the Ultra orthodox. Issue, today as we're,
Speaker 13: Speaking Gilader, dan which used to be member of the De,
Speaker 13: coude announced him Annually, edelstein which is also another the
Speaker 13: coud are leaving THE cud and forming a new. Party
Speaker 13: and this party explicitly in their press conference was the
Speaker 13: reason why is that the coud is too much in
Speaker 13: the pocket of the Ultra orthodox with both the conscription
Speaker 13: stuff and the economic.
Speaker 7: Issues so this is going to be a big.
Speaker 13: Thing there's a bunch of parties in the middle of
Speaker 13: the political spectrum that are trying to get in BECAUSE
Speaker 13: i think they see in the polls about twelve seats
Speaker 13: equivalent Of israelis who, say we don't care B, b NOT,
Speaker 13: bb we just want the Ultra orthodox to start paying
Speaker 13: their fair share quote unquote to borrow the Leftist american.
Speaker 7: Line and so that's going to be a very.
Speaker 13: Bigtion taniao already is trying to distance himself from the
Speaker 13: ha redeem the Ultra. Orthodox he said in The this,
Speaker 13: week he said in a closed meeting that somehow someone
Speaker 13: released that whoever doesn't go to the army needs.
Speaker 4: To go to.
Speaker 13: Jail this is the exact opposite of the law that
Speaker 13: he tried to pass three weeks, ago which said that
Speaker 13: Ultra orthodox who don't go to the army will not
Speaker 13: go to. Jail Supreme court put a stop to. THAT
Speaker 13: i wonder what your opinion on that, is The Supreme,
Speaker 13: court BECAUSE i know you're more more Of alwer THAN i.
Speaker 13: Am but he basically said, no, no, no, no that was
Speaker 13: a little one time. Thing but really in my next,
Speaker 13: government whoever it doesn't go to the army will go to.
Speaker 13: Jail and so he's already trying to distance. Himself so
Speaker 13: this IS i, think unless The iran war restarts with
Speaker 13: a vigor AND i don't know what's happening with, That
Speaker 13: President trump IS i don't really understand what's. Happening but
Speaker 13: if that doesn't, happen then the Internal israeli stuff is
Speaker 13: what's going to decide the, election which is really, weird
Speaker 13: AND i think we spoke about it when you were
Speaker 13: on my, show that you would think three four years
Speaker 13: After october, seventh not even three, years the discussion would be.
Speaker 13: Security but it turns out that All israelis pretty much
Speaker 13: don't want a too state. Solution All israelis pretty much
Speaker 13: are very right wing also on the settlement's, issue even
Speaker 13: if they're not ideological like The Greater israel quote, unquote
Speaker 13: they don't want The palestinians to have a state because
Speaker 13: they saw what happened In gaza and they think the
Speaker 13: settlements are a buffer to. That so pretty much there's
Speaker 13: no not a lot of disagreements on the fundamentals of
Speaker 13: the security.
Speaker 7: Situation So, Benny, yeah.
Speaker 1: Because this is a broadcast not a, PODCAST i have
Speaker 1: to do it in eight minute, segment SO i want
Speaker 1: to make SURE i have you back again to. Continue
Speaker 1: BUT i want to make sure sure my listeners understand
Speaker 1: when they go to The Western, spirit will they hear
Speaker 1: views from across The israeli? Spectrum will they hear people
Speaker 1: left right? Center, Yes i've had a lot of.
Speaker 13: People i'm gonna do it now about two months of
Speaker 13: towards the. Election we're going to do a bunch Of israeli,
Speaker 13: stuff just to, know you, know who what where. WHEN
Speaker 13: i think a lot Of americans don't really understand the
Speaker 13: ins and, outs and they are, interested especially, Nowadays israel's
Speaker 13: all the time in the.
Speaker 7: News so, yeah we're going to do.
Speaker 13: Left we've Had simphrothman from the judicial reform.
Speaker 7: ISSUE i Had bibi's brother on this, week so we're
Speaker 7: gonna have a bunch of. People Maybe babe will come.
Speaker 1: On we'll, See so Op Ed editor of The. Globes
Speaker 1: how many people submit for Op? Ed is that a
Speaker 1: thriving space in The israel?
Speaker 13: MEDIA i get ABOUT i would, say on average two
Speaker 13: thousand emails a week.
Speaker 7: Submitting everyone here has an opinion Their.
Speaker 13: Jews so you can imagine they like, writing they like
Speaker 13: fighting with each. Other they read something in the paper
Speaker 13: that gets them, angry they want to write it's it's
Speaker 13: REALLY i am so not good at saying no to,
Speaker 13: people and this has become my life because you, know
Speaker 13: most of the Time i'm just sending Emails i'm, sorry you,
Speaker 13: know get accept your, thing and it's like this is
Speaker 13: this is one of the difficult things That i've had
Speaker 13: to deal with in this. Job it's like telling people
Speaker 13: no you're, good but no we don't have. Room it's not,
Speaker 13: you it's. Me it's it's like well girls used to
Speaker 13: say to me WHEN i was going out BEFORE i
Speaker 13: met my.
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Speaker 1: Spirit Ariel, whitman it's a fabulous like a meet sagaal
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Speaker 1: Into israeli politics and security policy with nuance in his. Style,
Speaker 1: ariel thank you for the home and. Away come back.
Speaker 1: Again we'll put you on the regular. ROTATION i appreciate your.
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