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Speaker 1: I use the term African Muslim in its widest and

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Speaker 1: African Americans with Muslim connections. It includes Muslims with African connections.

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Speaker 1: It also includes Muslims with African roots or even with

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Speaker 2: Close to Africa.

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Speaker 1: And Egyptian Muslim, for instance, is an African Muslim because

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Speaker 1: this is one third world Afrocentric Islamic community. So who

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Speaker 1: are these African Muslims who want to take over America. Well,

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Speaker 1: there's Ilhan Omar, a Muslim who was born in Somalia

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Speaker 1: Also Omar Fate, another Muslim from Somalia. He ran for

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Speaker 2: There's New York.

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Speaker 1: Mayor Zoran Mamdani, whose mother is Indian but whose father

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Speaker 1: is a black African they are Muslims from Uganda. Mamdani

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Speaker 1: campaigned actively for Daria Liza Avila Chevalier, who won the

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Speaker 1: She's an Afro Latina with roots in the Dominican Republic.

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Speaker 1: She converted to Islam in twenty eighteen and identifies as

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Speaker 1: He's the likely Democratic nominee for the US Senate, another Muslim,

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Speaker 1: as his name clearly indicates he was born in America,

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Speaker 1: forget melat Kiros, an Ethiopian born in Addis Ababa. Her

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Speaker 1: public records make no mention of her religious identity.

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Speaker 2: Maybe she has none.

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Speaker 1: What we know is our family emigrated to the US

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Speaker 1: She's not Muslim, but has close ties to Muslims and

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Speaker 1: Muslims I've just listed. I have one final politician to

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Speaker 1: Jacob Fray. Now, my choice of pray seems odd because

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Speaker 2: And let me tell you why.

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Speaker 1: Jacob Frey ran as a left wing Democrat against the

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Speaker 1: not by courting the white or non Muslim vote. Rather,

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Speaker 1: Frey allied himself with Somali's who come from tribes that

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Speaker 1: Minnesota figures out that the Somalian Muslims are not one group.

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Speaker 2: They may have low IQs.

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Speaker 1: Some research at any rate suggests that, but they break

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Speaker 1: That's why he deserves his honorary African Muslim title. I've

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Speaker 1: Uma Abidin a Muslim married to George Soros's son Alex

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Speaker 1: This whole gang has close connections to democratic socialism, even

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Speaker 1: It's because his ideology of anti colonialism and anti Americanism

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Speaker 1: about these reformers is that they all come from failed societies.

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Speaker 1: I myself was raised in a failed society. India is

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Speaker 2: So what's going on with these.

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Speaker 1: Sulking, resentful African Muslims in America? Why do they have

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Speaker 1: that has made their life so much better? More specifically,

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Speaker 1: quite amazing. First, the African Muslims insist that their countries

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Speaker 1: Undeterred these African Muslims who come to America and immediately

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Speaker 1: My gosh, Salam, you just pointed to something that for

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Speaker 1: a Hindu, or you can become a Muslim, but you

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Speaker 1: are also free to leave if you decide that you

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Speaker 1: have changed your mind. Why is this is it an

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Speaker 1: Islamic Is it in the Quran that you are not

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Speaker 1: allowed to exit, and that and that leaving Islam represents

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Speaker 1: a kind of apostasy that is punishable by law and

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Speaker 1: perhaps even by death.

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Speaker 3: It's actually not in the Qur'an. It's an Islamic hadith

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Speaker 3: and jurisprudence. But the reason it's there, it's the nature

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Speaker 3: of man itself. On the nature of religion within Christianity,

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Speaker 3: within most world religion is the redemptive religion. As human,

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Speaker 3: you need help, That's what the religion does to you.

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Speaker 3: They're trying to help you. If you don't need help,

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Speaker 3: you want to stop taking amendic and you want to

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Speaker 3: leave Islam, that's that's that doesn't recognize that concept of redemption.

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Speaker 3: You need to obey and you need to fall under

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Speaker 3: its authority. So by leaving, you're leaving its authority, its dominance.

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Speaker 3: There is a hadith Mohammad said islamu Alai. Sorry if

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Speaker 3: I'm cutting in Arabic because I'm translating from my men.

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Speaker 3: Islams dominate and can never be dominated. So the act

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Speaker 3: of leaving, the act of exit itself is like during

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Speaker 3: the Second World War, an American soldier go and join

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Speaker 3: the third drive. That's how do you see it. Whatever

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Speaker 3: the belief or the conviction of the soldier are irrelevant.

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Speaker 3: You need to submit to the authority of it. It

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Speaker 3: needs to dominate over you. That's why there's no exit.

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Speaker 1: I also heard or read recently a kind of corollary

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Speaker 1: to that idea which I had not heard before, and

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Speaker 1: that is the application of the same principle to Islamic territory.

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Speaker 1: In other words, the idea here is that when Islam

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Speaker 1: conquers a region or a country, it now belongs to Islam.

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Speaker 2: It can never be returned.

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Speaker 3: Definitely is still in every single Muslim country today. You

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Speaker 3: want to Andalusia back because it was once ruled by Muslim.

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Speaker 3: It's not the it's not a French group, it's not

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Speaker 3: a minority group. It's actually the whole idea we went from.

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Speaker 3: We went Andalusia back, we want Sicily back. And what's

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Speaker 3: one of the main reasons you have all the conflict

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Speaker 3: over Israel Because it's not short of land. It's not

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Speaker 3: short of it, not because that specific land was once

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Speaker 3: under Islamic dominance. It becomes what's called in Islam's called

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Speaker 3: walk endowment. Endowment. It's an endowment for the Islamic Umah.

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Speaker 3: They can never give it back. They still want parts

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Speaker 3: of India as well.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is this is an astounding concept. Let's

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Speaker 1: spell it out more clearly. When you say Andalusia, you're

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Speaker 1: referring to Islamic Spain. Yes, the Muslims rule Spain or.

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Speaker 3: Use use I used the Andalusia because it was more

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Speaker 3: than Spain. It was up to South France, so it

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Speaker 3: was larger than Spain. Whatever the land they ruled, they

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Speaker 3: won't die.

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Speaker 2: Back, right.

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Speaker 1: And then the Muslims, in addition, conquered much of northern

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Speaker 1: India and established the Mogul Empire. And you're saying that

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Speaker 1: to this day there is the belief in Islam and

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Speaker 1: this is not Islamic radicalism but rather Islam itself, that

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Speaker 1: this territory at some point needs to be returned to

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Speaker 1: the return to Islam.

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Speaker 3: I actually don't like the term Islamic radicalism at all.

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Speaker 3: It's misleading. Think about it like this. Think about like this.

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Speaker 3: You walk into buskin robins. There are thirty one flavors. Essentially,

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Speaker 3: they are ice cream, So choosing which flavor some of

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Speaker 3: them could kill somebody If he had peanut allergy and

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Speaker 3: took a Mars sneakers ice cream. But you know, essentially

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Speaker 3: ingreed of all of them doesn't differ in its basics

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Speaker 3: or in its goal. The only difference between isis and

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Speaker 3: Muslim Brotherhood is not the goal, it's the method. The

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Speaker 3: difference between Islamic Counselor of Scholars, which was led by

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Speaker 3: Karadawi and introduced to the West as the moderate to

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Speaker 3: form of Islam, and al Kaida is different method, not

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Speaker 3: an ideology, not the aim, because all of them, when

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Speaker 3: you come to later, might explain this the end of

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Speaker 3: the same place. It's a civilization aiming at one goal

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Speaker 3: and one God. Only how you get there is a

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Speaker 3: different That's the only difference between them.

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Speaker 1: You discussed in a recent article a remarkable document that

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Speaker 1: was published by the Islamic Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization

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Speaker 1: is SCO. The document is called the Strategy for Islamic

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Speaker 1: Cultural Action Outside the Islamic World. And I want to

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Speaker 1: emphasize that this is not put out by some NGO

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Speaker 1: or some kind of fringe group. Rather, it is a

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Speaker 1: kind of institutional formalization of what the Muslim countries around

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Speaker 1: the world, Muslim communities see as.

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Speaker 2: The goal of Islam in the West.

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Speaker 3: It was that it was adopted document. It was adopted

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Speaker 3: document at the Doha Conference of Islamic Operation Council, signed

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Speaker 3: officially signed by fifty seven Musclim majority country. No, it's

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Speaker 3: a government policy. It's multi national government policy, and it's

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Speaker 3: been around to twenty six years and they are the

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Speaker 3: one who publish it. It's not a conspiracy theory theory.

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Speaker 3: That's actually official Islamic States policy and you will see

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Speaker 3: how it's been implemented.

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Speaker 1: Now, let's talk about what the document says, because this

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Speaker 1: is a at a very broad level, a road map

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Speaker 1: for what is the goal of Muslims or what should

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Speaker 1: be the goal of Muslims, both Muslim individuals but also

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Speaker 1: Muslim institutions and Muslim groups in the West.

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Speaker 2: What is that goal?

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Speaker 3: Okay, let me start in a different place. I want

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Speaker 3: to start from the United States National Archive. You go

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Speaker 3: there under heavy armored guard and a bulletproof class. You

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Speaker 3: have the most precious document in America's history, and right

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Speaker 3: involved in one of those documents, you have that three

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Speaker 3: words we the people. Those are the foundation of the

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Speaker 3: entirety of American political philosophy. They come before any political

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Speaker 3: party disagreement, before any activity activist, liking or disliking. Those

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Speaker 3: are the ground that every single American in its institution

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Speaker 3: stands on and is grounded on. On the other, completely

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Speaker 3: the other side of these three words, we the people,

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Speaker 3: you would have an Islamic philosophy called the Hackey media,

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Speaker 3: which means the absolute sovereignty of all Lah, where all

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Speaker 3: Llah is the only one who's allowed and can make

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Speaker 3: or change laws. So the most foundational document in American

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Speaker 3: history or actually in Western political philosophy, and is seen

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Speaker 3: by that concept as a confession to the act of

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Speaker 3: the gravest usurpation of power. Ever, it's a plus for me,

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Speaker 3: simple as that, because when you said we the people

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Speaker 3: are the source of law, are the sources where we

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Speaker 3: find some laws are wrong, we change it to abolish slavery.

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Speaker 3: We do that because we the people. And on the

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Speaker 3: other side, they're hearing you committing an active class FIM,

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Speaker 3: the strategy you're looking at is the vehicle that will

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Speaker 3: get you from one point to the other. It's not

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Speaker 3: the ideology, it's what gets you there because its function

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Speaker 3: is specifically, if you read it carefully, it's using very

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Speaker 3: very very intension military language, like talking about the Muslim

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Speaker 3: community in western countries or non Islamic country as the

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Speaker 3: front line for the Ummah for the name for Islamic nation.

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Speaker 3: That's basically the language you use when you talk about

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Speaker 3: the Eastern Front. That's a military language. They're talking about

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Speaker 3: the Muslim community that they should be immunized against Western assimilation.

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Speaker 3: They are telling you those communities are not here to assimilate.

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Speaker 3: They are here as a peach head for the Ummah

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Speaker 3: and the ACT. When you were talking early asking about apostasy,

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Speaker 3: the document states that's Muslim community in the West with

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Speaker 3: function with the one way evalve. No one is allowed act.

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Speaker 3: But the one of their functions is to absorb, convert

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Speaker 3: to Islam and to integrate them into the Omah. And

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Speaker 3: when we said the oma, the whole concept of it,

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Speaker 3: it means the submission to the hakeemia, to the absolute

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Speaker 3: power and jurisprudence of Allah. So you're getting we the

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Speaker 3: people to to go back to their place. The people

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Speaker 3: in Islamic concept are like a museum creator, not a

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Speaker 3: painter in an art school. A creator the museum are

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Speaker 3: not allowed to change a masterpiece. You study it, you

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Speaker 3: observe it, you keep it safe, but it's not your

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Speaker 3: job to do something new with it. We treat our civilization,

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Speaker 3: Western civilization as a student an art school. Make a masterpiece.

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Speaker 3: Show me what you're going to do with what you

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Speaker 3: have that concept, you're not allowed to do it. It

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Speaker 3: will be like the very common view these days when

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Speaker 3: some climate act gone through oil and paint on a masterpiece.

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Speaker 3: You see it as an active aggression, as an active vandalism.

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Speaker 3: So we the people from Islamic perspective, is an active vandalism.

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Speaker 1: To draw out the implication of what you're saying, there

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Speaker 1: are many Americans who have looked at traditional immigrant groups

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Speaker 1: as coming to America wanting to become part of our society,

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Speaker 1: accepting our laws. In fact, coming to join a club

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Speaker 1: that they have always wanted to be members of so

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Speaker 1: that they can have a better life. And this is

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Speaker 1: the general view of why the Irish came, and the

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Speaker 1: Italians and the Jews, and I think by a certain

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Speaker 1: type of general extension, there are many people who think, well,

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Speaker 1: the Muslims are coming kind of under the same rubric

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Speaker 1: and under the same bargain. I think what you're saying

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Speaker 1: is that this is actually not the case, or at

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Speaker 1: least this is not the goal of Islamic immigration to

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Speaker 1: the West.

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Speaker 3: What I'm saying, let me make a very clear distinction.

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Speaker 3: Muslim community in non Muslim country might not be aware

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Speaker 3: of the strategy, might actually cooperate with it, and might

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Speaker 3: not even know it says co exist. And that's completely

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Speaker 3: irrelevant because what we have is not an immigration policy problem,

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Speaker 3: it's an autoimmune disease problem. The Western protection system, immunity

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Speaker 3: system which we have, religious freedom, freedom of opinion, freedom

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Speaker 3: of conscience, freedom and aciation are used as a weapon

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Speaker 3: against the West itself. Those are the tools we're supposed

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Speaker 3: to protect our the body, but those are the tools

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Speaker 3: that use If you read the document, it explicitly stated

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Speaker 3: that a Muslim should be incarriage, to take political office,

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Speaker 3: to participate in uh a culture event in media. The

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Speaker 3: genuinely a Muslim might do that in America because he

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Speaker 3: want to be a star, he want to be a lawyer,

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Speaker 3: he wan to he want to participate in this. He

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Speaker 3: doesn't have a clue what that served. But by educating

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Speaker 3: them since the ninety through Islamic Center that was golf

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Speaker 3: money funded Egyptian as our university's scholars, teaching, and some

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Speaker 3: countries in Europe actually pay to get Curriculal'll clear about

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Speaker 3: that in a second, to get curricul and talk to

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Speaker 3: their children under the authority of another government. So all

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Speaker 3: of this would lead ultimately to the same place. When

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Speaker 3: you look at someone who has an autoimmune disease, it

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Speaker 3: functioned individually as the immune system should function. It flares,

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Speaker 3: it shows rashes. You know, you think the immune system

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Speaker 3: is working. But when you look at the whole diagnostic

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Speaker 3: as a whole and on civiliza level, the person is dying.

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Speaker 3: So and the problem with that is you are you

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Speaker 3: will not be able to ignore the problem. If you're

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Speaker 3: looking at my immigration, if you're looking at cutter media funding,

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Speaker 3: university research funding in isolation, you have to look at

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Speaker 3: all of it together where it leads what's the destination.

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Speaker 3: You have a community that feel more connected to someone

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Speaker 3: on the other side of the world. When you have

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Speaker 3: someone running in an office and he says my people,

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Speaker 3: he doesn't mean he's constituents. He means the guys in

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Speaker 3: Bangladesh or Nigeria or Indonesia, that's my people. So you're

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Speaker 3: talking about completely two different things. He would be serving

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Speaker 3: the community, but to what goal? The the already most

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Speaker 3: of that and a lot of them are Western born

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Speaker 3: citizens and even convert. But it's the same, the same

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Speaker 3: problem you have. Imagine this for a second. If you

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Speaker 3: have an institution that is run, funded, educated by Russian

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Speaker 3: government in America for over multi decayed and multi generation,

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Speaker 3: and it's kept to have its loyalty knowingly or not

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Speaker 3: to the Mother Church, Eastern Orthodox Russia and by extension,

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Speaker 3: the Russian Federation, how would you deal with that? That

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Speaker 3: that's the problem you have in Europe. I told you,

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you about that. In Europe, you have countries

650
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Speaker 3: like France. They used to I think they stopped it

651
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Speaker 3: now to pay Morocco in order to teach Arabic to

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Speaker 3: French citizens from North Africa. And the curriculum is under

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Speaker 3: French under Moroccan government authority and design and teachers. So

654
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Speaker 3: the French government paying Moroccan citizens to teach French citizens

655
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Speaker 3: about Morocco. How to keep the roots. In Germany, the

656
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Speaker 3: relig just affair under Duran in Turkey are paid by

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Speaker 3: the German tax payers in order to teach German from

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Speaker 3: Turkish origin about Islam. And it's controlled by the religious

659
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Speaker 3: authority that's under Duran government, and it's across Europe. Several

660
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Speaker 3: countries of Europe are teaching Arabic in schools optionally and

661
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Speaker 3: all this strategy is spelt out not conspiracy in the

662
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Speaker 3: documentary I sent you and to see the example in

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Speaker 3: Europe since that was published in two thousands, they started

664
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Speaker 3: before that, before that, with the first meeting was in France,

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Speaker 3: a cooperation between government in what they do, and since

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Speaker 3: then Islamic Center and Islamic education system and mosque and

667
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 3: schools mushroomed around Europe and you have naturally no conspiracies

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Speaker 3: needed and people are in it don't even have to

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Speaker 3: be aware of. With several jurisdictions in Europe voted in

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Speaker 3: entire city council of Muslims, and you know you have

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Speaker 3: you have people uh winning election because they are running

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Speaker 3: in European country for Gaza and rising the Plastinian flag,

673
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Speaker 3: which nothing to do with the constituents except the constituents

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Speaker 3: think more about the people there as my people than

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Speaker 3: actually the country they live in. It's that kind of

676
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Speaker 3: dynamic and they are not voting for global conspiracy. It's

677
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Speaker 3: the way it happens organically weaponizing your own system to

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Speaker 3: eat itself. And you see that very clearly by giving

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Speaker 3: our own government paying for it. One of the clearest

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Speaker 3: case was during the Holyland Foundation trial in America, the

681
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Speaker 3: biggest case of terrorist funding in American history. One of

682
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Speaker 3: the unindicted conspirator with Care Council of Islamic American relationship.

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Speaker 3: During the trial, Care was assistant the FBI in their

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Speaker 3: counter terrorist activity organization that's been on trial at the

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Speaker 3: time for terrorists funding. Was advising the FBI about the

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Speaker 3: counter terrorists. In the UK, one of the main advisors

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Speaker 3: of the British government is the Muslim Council of Britain,

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Speaker 3: which was founded by people who are ideologically belong to

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Speaker 3: Maududi is an Indian Pakistani scholar who started the Wholy

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Speaker 3: school of the absolute sovereignty of all Lah And who

691
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Speaker 3: would think that's the greatest plasphemy is we the people?

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Speaker 3: Those his disciples are advising the Pritchish government in counter

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Speaker 3: terrorism and telling them who's extremists and who's not. So

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Speaker 3: what immigration would solve that.

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Speaker 1: I think what you're saying is that the whole concept

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Speaker 1: of Islamic radicalism is almost a convenient fiction. And you

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Speaker 1: have groups that are pursuing this broad based Islamic agenda,

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Speaker 1: and they're able to deflect attention from their own project

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Speaker 1: by saying, hey, guess what, We're going to help you

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Speaker 1: identify the radicals and extremists, and you may want to

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Speaker 1: keep an eye on those guys, but meanwhile you're missing

702
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Speaker 1: the larger picture of the broader Islamic project, which is

703
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Speaker 1: well underway, and in fact, we have got your help

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Speaker 1: in promoting and subsidizing it.

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Speaker 3: They actually might, genuinely, they might not see it like

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Speaker 3: that because they might have a problem with the radical

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Speaker 3: what you call radical, because those radical think the one

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Speaker 3: who's playing politics are not even Muslims, and they will

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Speaker 3: be their target as well, because they want the change

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Speaker 3: from the top down, the same way it happened in

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Speaker 3: the early history of Islam in India and Egypt, in Spain.

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Speaker 3: So they want or nine to eleven, they want that

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Speaker 3: kind of change, that non radical these thing. No, they

714
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Speaker 3: want exactly the same thing. That's the Islamic flag raised

715
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Speaker 3: above Westminster and White House. But we will be voted in.

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Speaker 3: We're not going to do it violently, We're just going

717
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Speaker 3: to but the same goal. It's the same. You're talking

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Speaker 3: about the spectrum and methodology they might have. You might

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Speaker 3: have in America, for example, several different criminal gangs. Not

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Speaker 3: all of them are violent, some of them are con artists,

721
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Speaker 3: some of them are you know, doing charity work. But

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Speaker 3: the goal at the end is what I'm looking at.

723
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Speaker 3: I if I take that concept, this activity, all of

724
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Speaker 3: it and add it together, is what's the end the result,

725
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Speaker 3: what those ingredients are going to cook for me? What's

726
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Speaker 3: the end meal? And the end meal is they want

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Speaker 3: Islamic society. Mother tell you that and none Moderate tell

728
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Speaker 3: you that. The difference is one wanted now and one

729
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Speaker 3: would walk for it in several generations. The easiest could

730
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Speaker 3: document is explicitly said first, second, third, fourth generation. It's

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Speaker 3: a multi generational document telling you we won't immunize Muslim

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Speaker 3: community in non Islamic country again its assimilation. I'm not

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Speaker 3: making it up. I'm courting it again, its assimilation and

734
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Speaker 3: protect them from the danger of a Western culture. So

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Speaker 3: you have this group and these stated clearly depend on

736
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Speaker 3: the fact that this community will demographically increase higher perth

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Speaker 3: rate younger generation while Western community is lower birth rate

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Speaker 3: and older generation. So will without even immigration, they will

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Speaker 3: increase demographically the absorbed convert, and which according to the document,

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Speaker 3: might be through persuasion or it might be through marriage.

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Speaker 3: So because in Islam, a non Muslim American, one Amerrian,

742
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Speaker 3: a Muslim American, we'd have to convert to Islam first,

743
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Speaker 3: and then that became one other person in the ouma,

744
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Speaker 3: one one, one more person closer to the final project.

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Speaker 3: And it is not secret. They don't need to be radicalized,

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Speaker 3: they don't need getting you to look at them. The

747
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Speaker 3: ones who commit active terror is a shell game. It's

748
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Speaker 3: a slight of hand because at the end, the bothe

749
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Speaker 3: gonna go in the exactly same place with the people

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Speaker 3: is plasphemy.

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Speaker 1: And the goal of the project, just to emphasize it

752
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Speaker 1: very clearly, is that is not to have Muslims become

753
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Speaker 1: more westernized or more Americanized, but sort of the opposite,

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Speaker 1: to make America and the West more islam Assized.

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Speaker 2: Isn't that right?

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Speaker 3: The Quran stated quite. It says fight them until there

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Speaker 3: is no sedition and all the religion becomes for Allah,

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Speaker 3: so that the goal is not America. The goal is

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Speaker 3: a global empire submitted to Allah. Whether the people in

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Speaker 3: that empire are all become Muslims or not. Some of

761
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Speaker 3: them might stay Christian or do It's completely irrelevant because

762
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Speaker 3: you can stay Christian and pay the jijia. You don't

763
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Speaker 3: run the country, you don't run for public office, but

764
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Speaker 3: you submit to the authority of Islam. That's the goal,

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Speaker 3: and that's not the goal is stated by minority. That's

766
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Speaker 3: the goal in the Qoran. That's the goal is stated

767
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Speaker 3: by Muhammad himself. He said in one of the authentic

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Speaker 3: hadids in Masawa, Allah has pended the earth to me,

769
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Speaker 3: and I saw the east and the west and the

770
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Speaker 3: rule of my uma, my nation. We're reach as far

771
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Speaker 3: as I've seen. So it's in the authentic in the Qur'an,

772
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Speaker 3: it's the goal is a global empire that submits to

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Speaker 3: the rule of Islam.

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Speaker 1: You described a project that travels on the passport of

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Speaker 1: American and Western liberty, which is economic freedom, freedom of speech,

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Speaker 1: religious freedom. But it is attempting to move to a

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Speaker 1: society in which those freedoms would be curtailed, if not extinguished.

778
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Speaker 1: In other words, its end goal involves a subversion of

779
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Speaker 1: those exact freedoms.

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Speaker 2: How is the West or how is.

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Speaker 1: America going to be able to push back against us.

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Speaker 1: And I say this because we appear to be captive

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Speaker 1: to our own freedoms. We appear to be in an

784
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Speaker 1: awkward position of having to repudiate our own bill of

785
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Speaker 1: rights in order to say no to a project that

786
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Speaker 1: we know is not taking us where the Constitution wanted

787
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Speaker 1: to take us.

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Speaker 3: Let me take you back to the autoimmune analogy, because

789
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Speaker 3: that's precisely what's going on. The system. Western democracy is

790
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Speaker 3: not designed to deal with that kind of threat at all,

791
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Speaker 3: because not they didn't. They are stupid or ill equipped,

792
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 3: because the system itself, when it's used against the system.

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Speaker 3: An autoimmune is your body fighting mechanism, is what is

794
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Speaker 3: killing your body. So and the solution would have to

795
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Speaker 3: be in the same way. First, you have to diagnose

796
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 3: it's an autoimmune problem, that's your system fighting itself, and

797
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 3: it's not just a foreign disease because it is not

798
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 3: a foreign disease, it's homegrown in many cases. Second, it

799
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Speaker 3: has to be done explicit, with precision, and with devastating effect.

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Speaker 3: It has to be the same way you treat autoimmune

801
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 3: is to identify what cell actually eating the body, infecting

802
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Speaker 3: the body, and those cell you'd have to target those

803
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:14,439
Speaker 3: you don't invite care to the White House to advise you.

804
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 3: You're having basically the pathogen telling you what cells you

805
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:21,319
Speaker 3: should reject and what selves you should deep when the

806
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:23,839
Speaker 3: pathigs on itself is with you in the room. So

807
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 3: Western country would have and to diagnose the problem different

808
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 3: the other problem we don't recognize. We have built in

809
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Speaker 3: mechanism that forbid the diagnostics Slamophobia. For example, I'll be

810
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 3: labeled islamophobe completely if I wasn't born in a musculing

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Speaker 3: for everything I said to you today, because that is designed,

812
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Speaker 3: not grown organically. It was designed to confuse people, individuals

813
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Speaker 3: with the ideology. So the second uklarocricize the ideology, Oh

814
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Speaker 3: you're anti Muslim, you're your racist, your piggot, your islamophob

815
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 3: so and let everything move on. And Islamophobia is basically

816
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:11,360
Speaker 3: someone tell you ignore the man behind the curtain, because

817
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 3: they are fifty seven men behind the curtain and they

818
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 3: have signard document says that's what we want to do,

819
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Speaker 3: and they've been working on it for twenty six years,

820
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Speaker 3: and you can see the result in several European countries.

821
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Speaker 3: You can see it in some American states, and the

822
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Speaker 3: people who are doing it are not actually nefarious. People

823
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Speaker 3: avoided Mandanni in I believe they thought he's great for

824
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 3: New York, whatever his policy. But the end, the project

825
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:42,800
Speaker 3: itself is a submission to ideology that's funded by a

826
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Speaker 3: fifty seven foreign country and sometimes educated by teachers who

827
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Speaker 3: work for those foreign countries. How you deal with that?

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Speaker 3: Diagnose the problem first, The first thing you have to do.

829
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Speaker 3: Diagnose the problem on civilization level. If you don't do that,

830
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Speaker 3: we will be eroded, one system at a time, one

831
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Speaker 3: city municipality at a time, one city council at a time.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question that borders on the spiritual,

833
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Speaker 1: which is that one of the great strengths of Islam

834
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Speaker 1: is that it has not lost the force of its

835
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Speaker 1: original revelation. You've got people today who are just as

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Speaker 1: devoted to Islam as probably some of the people who

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Speaker 1: surrounded the prophet Muhammad. In Christianity, however, you seem to have,

838
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Speaker 1: particularly in Europe, but to some degree also in America,

839
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Speaker 1: a secularization you referred earlier to an Easter Sunday Christianity.

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Speaker 1: You've got a kind of more modest devotion to the cause.

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Speaker 1: And my question is, do you think that in the end,

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00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:55,760
Speaker 1: it will take a powerful Christian revival in the West

843
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Speaker 1: to be fully up to the challenge posed by the

844
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Speaker 1: Islamic pri project.

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Speaker 3: Okay, let me start by correcting you. I think the

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Speaker 3: power in Islam not the people devotion, because we actually

847
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Speaker 3: cannot know logically how many people are devoted Muslim. It's

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Speaker 3: impossible to know because I'm still counted and easy as

849
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Speaker 3: a Muslim. So once you're in, born in it, or

850
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Speaker 3: came in it, that's it. You're in and there's no

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Speaker 3: way out. The power Islam have its function as retric

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Speaker 3: It's intellectual junk food. I know that's a strong statement,

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Speaker 3: so let me explain what I mean by it and

854
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Speaker 3: give you a quick example. When you look at junk food,

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Speaker 3: it looks nice, it smells nice, it looks like something

856
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Speaker 3: you would like to eat, and it might be good

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Speaker 3: for you. But when you know the ingredients, you actually

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Speaker 3: discover it's not food in any meaningful way, and it's

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Speaker 3: actually bad for you. As an example, one of the

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Speaker 3: most famous verses in the Qur'an, which is Christian, when

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Speaker 3: the the psychological and rector of it will take them

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Speaker 3: completely different direction. They killed him, not they crucified him. Not,

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Speaker 3: but it appeared to them talking about the crusifix of

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Speaker 3: Jesus seven words in the Kurna and hadid. That's it,

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Speaker 3: talking about that big historical event that's the core foundation

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Speaker 3: of Christian theology. But until you ask, actually, what's the

867
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Speaker 3: ingredients what this verse is doing. It's not denying that

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00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:30,800
Speaker 3: crucifixion as a historical event. Someone was on the cross,

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Speaker 3: and everybody standing there believe that someone with Jesus. Islam

870
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:39,440
Speaker 3: is denying the identity of the person. So built in

871
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:46,960
Speaker 3: with the claim is immunionization from any sort of evidence

872
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 3: because you bring them eyewitness account, a document, take them there,

873
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 3: it's Jesus. Yeah, it looks like him. It appeared to you.

874
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Speaker 3: So when you have a verse that is unfalsifiable in

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Speaker 3: the logic, that very is not even wrong when a

876
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Speaker 3: Muslim bring If a Muslim bring this up to me,

877
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 3: the only rational answer for me is like to be

878
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 3: would you like some fries with that? Because it exited

879
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 3: the realm of the domain of truth claim. It's not

880
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 3: making a truth claim, it's telling you something that will

881
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 3: shake you to the core because it's power. He didn't die,

882
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 3: he wasn't put in the cross. But when you look

883
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 3: behind the curtain, it's actually not saying anything. So that's

884
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 3: why I mean by it's an intellectual junk food. Once

885
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 3: you just go beyond what the claim is, I can

886
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 3: give you many examples that will end the same thing.

887
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 3: But the power of red trick is very convincing and

888
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:48,440
Speaker 3: the way you find Muslim speak with the confidence about

889
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 3: what they are thinking, they saying. And the bigger problem

890
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 3: is globally, the vast majority of Muslim probably more than

891
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 3: ninety seven percent of them, are incapable logically to check

892
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 3: the sources of Islam. I'll tell you why, because in

893
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 3: order to check these sources what they mean, you have

894
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:12,440
Speaker 3: to go to classic Arabic. Classic Arabic is a second

895
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Speaker 3: language to most Arabs. It's like you reading a fifteenth

896
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Speaker 3: century English document, legal document, so there's terminology that's archaic

897
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 3: are not used. So by just going to classic Arabic,

898
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Speaker 3: you have to execlude all non Arab Muslim from the picture.

899
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Speaker 3: That leaves about four hundred million who can speak Arabic.

900
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 3: Out of those, thirty two percent are under the age

901
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 3: of fourteen, twenty three percent are illiterate, and some of

902
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 3: them are not Muslim at all, and some are not religious.

903
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 3: Leaves you with about forty to fifty millions who are

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Speaker 3: capable of actually reading classic Arabic, not the engaged with it.

905
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Speaker 3: And if you're going to be very generous and add

906
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 3: ten million non arab scholars to them, you get about

907
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 3: sixty millions who are capable. Logically, that's les than three

908
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 3: percent the actual people who read it. With the affraction

909
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 3: of that number, they made a study in a dub

910
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Speaker 3: a few years ago. They found that the average Arabic

911
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:21,440
Speaker 3: speaking person read six minutes a year. So that means

912
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Speaker 3: whatever religion they are new, they are not actually checking

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Speaker 3: the sources. They are taking that from the gate keeper,

914
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Speaker 3: from the scholars who are educated by a foreign government.

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Speaker 3: To explain how far that goes. One of the very

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Speaker 3: common misconceptions about Islam today is alcohol in Islam is

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Speaker 3: forbidden and it always has been. You heard it before.

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Speaker 3: That's not true. There's an Arabic in the book saying

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Speaker 3: quite humorous statement, says yaz sure his opinion about music

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Speaker 3: that of Hejazz, and in drinking is that of Iraq.

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Speaker 3: Because there was a disagreement historically between the scholar of

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Speaker 3: Hejazz Mecca and Medina and the scholar of Basra and

923
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Speaker 3: Baghdad about is all alcohol forbidden or only that made

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Speaker 3: out of grape juice. So the Iraqi were quite lenient

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Speaker 3: and they will say not only what made of grape juice,

926
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Speaker 3: the other you can drink, but don't get into untoxicated.

927
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Speaker 3: So someone and the hejazi said music is forbidden. So

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Speaker 3: someone who wants to have a drink and listen to music,

929
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Speaker 3: he go and fed to a shopping between the scholars

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Speaker 3: Muslim today, I think there is something called sharia that's unanimous, unified,

931
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Speaker 3: and that said, no, you don't have that. What you

932
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Speaker 3: have is a very specific school that was sold to

933
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Speaker 3: non Arabic speaking Muslim by Sadi a Habitz, Pakistani Islamia

934
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Speaker 3: and Egyptian Azar. That very specific school is what's sold

935
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Speaker 3: in the West, and it almost cannot be corrected based

936
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Speaker 3: on English translation because the people who sold you that

937
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Speaker 3: version are the one who's translating the books in English.

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Speaker 1: So I'm returning to your quotation, your quotation earlier about

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Speaker 1: the Quran with regard to the crucifixion and Jesus. To me,

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Speaker 1: it helps to illuminate something that we hear in our

941
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Speaker 1: own society now you'll hear it said by Muslims and

942
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Speaker 1: also by some people on the left, and Tucker Carlson

943
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Speaker 1: has repeated something of the same ilk, namely that Islam

944
01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:50,080
Speaker 1: accepts Jesus as a prophet and is therefore closer to

945
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Speaker 1: Christianity than Judaism, which rejects Jesus.

946
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Speaker 2: I'd like you to comment on this.

947
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Speaker 3: When a Muslim say that to me, and I hear

948
01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 3: it a lot, my reply always is, that's great, So

949
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:06,520
Speaker 3: you believe in the Son of God who came and

950
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:09,439
Speaker 3: died in across the cervies people, No, I don't. I said,

951
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:12,440
Speaker 3: you just said, I accept Jesus, but not that one.

952
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:14,960
Speaker 3: That's the only Jesus we have. We don't have another one.

953
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:18,920
Speaker 3: So you have to force again the intellectual junk food analogy.

954
01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:22,720
Speaker 3: What actually is he saying I have the name Jesus.

955
01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:26,080
Speaker 3: I know you were around during the First Gulf War

956
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:31,040
Speaker 3: and it was hugely covered by C and N and

957
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:36,280
Speaker 3: the person who's cover it was Bernard Show, an American.

958
01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:39,880
Speaker 3: If I tell you about Bernard Show, and I mean

959
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:43,240
Speaker 3: the Irish author, am I talking about the same Bernard Show.

960
01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:47,400
Speaker 3: So the fact that you stick the label Jesus, which

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01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:50,560
Speaker 3: is not in Islam. It's Aesa which came from Us

962
01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:53,880
Speaker 3: the Greek, which huge problem for Islam. But different story.

963
01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:59,680
Speaker 3: Did you stick that name on anything? It's actually doesn't

964
01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:05,400
Speaker 3: solve problem Islam. From a Christian perspective, what islam believe

965
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:10,480
Speaker 3: about Jesus is an absolute form of plasphemy. Contrary to that,

966
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:14,200
Speaker 3: what Jews believe about Jesus is accepted by Christians because

967
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 3: here's what here's the actual problem. When Jesus went on

968
01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:21,400
Speaker 3: in Matthew twelve six to eight, and he was still

969
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:26,680
Speaker 3: talking to Jews, telling them here something greater than the

970
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:30,680
Speaker 3: Temple two verse later, so you know, the Son of

971
01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:33,240
Speaker 3: Man is Lord of the Sabbath. For a Jew in

972
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:36,320
Speaker 3: the first century to hear those two sentences is a

973
01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:39,360
Speaker 3: lot worse than a Black American hearing the N word

974
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:45,280
Speaker 3: from Tucker Carson psychologically speaking, because the Temple is God's

975
01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:48,280
Speaker 3: dwelling place. That's how a Jews see it. To tell

976
01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:51,640
Speaker 3: Jesus to say someone greater than the Temple, and the

977
01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:55,200
Speaker 3: Sabbath is the Sabbath of God, that's his own day

978
01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:58,000
Speaker 3: in the Ten Commandments. So when Jesus says I'm the

979
01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:02,240
Speaker 3: Lord of the Sabbath, he's claiming property over God's own property.

980
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:06,320
Speaker 3: So for a Jew, he has one of two choices.

981
01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:10,200
Speaker 3: Believe him and down in your knees call him Lord

982
01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:13,000
Speaker 3: and savior, or you don't, and then you apply the law,

983
01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:16,480
Speaker 3: which in Deuteronomy thirteen says, if someone came to you

984
01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:19,840
Speaker 3: saying let's go after another God, you kill him. That's

985
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:22,520
Speaker 3: literally written the law. So the Jews who believed what

986
01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:25,920
Speaker 3: Jesus was saying understood exactly what they're saying. He said,

987
01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:28,880
Speaker 3: but we don't believe you. The fact that we don't

988
01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:33,640
Speaker 3: believe you means they are pushed by law to kill him.

989
01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:36,040
Speaker 3: When a Muslim come, he says, yeah, but he really

990
01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:40,840
Speaker 3: doesn't mean that's that, you know, that's condescending to what

991
01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:45,080
Speaker 3: Jesus said, dismissive to his claim. And he said, oh,

992
01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:49,080
Speaker 3: when Jesus said I and a father are one, he's

993
01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:51,400
Speaker 3: just like me and you are one. He's just being friendly.

994
01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:55,520
Speaker 3: So cus Lewis made that point quite clearly. Say the

995
01:04:55,640 --> 01:05:00,320
Speaker 3: idea of taking Jesus as the great moral teacher is

996
01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:04,080
Speaker 3: made by someone who doesn't know what Jesus said or

997
01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:08,600
Speaker 3: understand it. It's an idea that was never intended by Jesus,

998
01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:14,080
Speaker 3: and he never meant to. It's a condescending nonsense. Basically

999
01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:19,320
Speaker 3: what lewis saying, because Jesus claimed to be the creator everything,

1000
01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:21,800
Speaker 3: He claimed to be the lord of the Sabbath. He

1001
01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:24,960
Speaker 3: claimed to be greater than the Temple. And if you're

1002
01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:27,440
Speaker 3: going to take those words as he said them and

1003
01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:31,200
Speaker 3: says that's a great moral teacher, you don't understand what

1004
01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:35,640
Speaker 3: he's saying and wors and in Islam he actually comes

1005
01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:39,680
Speaker 3: second to Muhammad. You know, he's not even the greatest

1006
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:48,160
Speaker 3: moral example. They conquered. Jesus stook him of his only title,

1007
01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:53,480
Speaker 3: all his claims, all his authority. When you have someone,

1008
01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:58,800
Speaker 3: let's assume the Islamic Jesus is a human being. All

1009
01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:01,760
Speaker 3: authority in heaven on earth has been given to me.

1010
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:05,200
Speaker 3: That's a claim can be made by human all authority

1011
01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:08,320
Speaker 3: in heaven and earth. That means all authority God himself have.

1012
01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:12,040
Speaker 3: So when you read what Jesus said and he says, oh,

1013
01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:15,120
Speaker 3: this is a good prophet, you don't understand what you're saying.

1014
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:21,720
Speaker 3: And so the Muslim claim itself it's either a mislabeling

1015
01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:26,680
Speaker 3: of someone we're not show or a complete misunderstanding to

1016
01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:32,640
Speaker 3: what they are reading, or a rejection to everything Christian have,

1017
01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:35,919
Speaker 3: which another headache for Islam. You know, oh, you don't

1018
01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:39,080
Speaker 3: have the true Bible. That's one of the biggest, huge

1019
01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:43,000
Speaker 3: problems for Islam. I don't know. If you have time,

1020
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:46,360
Speaker 3: I can. I can tell you why if we have time,

1021
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:48,760
Speaker 3: but I don't want to keep speaking.

1022
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Speaker 1: Just well to me, it's very fascinating because what you're

1023
01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:57,880
Speaker 1: really saying is that the Jews might reject Jesus based

1024
01:06:57,960 --> 01:07:00,920
Speaker 1: upon his claims, but they take the claim him seriously.

1025
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:05,760
Speaker 1: They understood what Jesus is saying about himself. It's almost

1026
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:10,640
Speaker 1: as if Islam refuses to even consider the possibility that

1027
01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:13,360
Speaker 1: what Jesus is saying may not be true, may or

1028
01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:15,960
Speaker 1: may not be true. In other words, Islam doesn't even

1029
01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:20,800
Speaker 1: reject Jesus. They invent a kind of new Jesus of

1030
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Speaker 1: their own, choosing yes.

1031
01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:27,920
Speaker 3: And if you read, if you read Matthew twenty two specifically,

1032
01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:31,080
Speaker 3: and Matthew twelve and Matthew twenty two and see what

1033
01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:35,000
Speaker 3: Jesus is doing as a first century Jew, you have

1034
01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:39,320
Speaker 3: no choice. Jesus made this binary very clear. You either

1035
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:42,840
Speaker 3: believe in him or you kill him. Because if you

1036
01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:46,760
Speaker 3: read Matthew, you'll find out. That's the religious leader didn't

1037
01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:50,160
Speaker 3: want to kill him during the Sabbath, so why did they?

1038
01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:55,160
Speaker 3: Because he pushed that choice in Matthew twenty one. You

1039
01:07:55,200 --> 01:08:02,800
Speaker 3: know the claims he made is one of two things, matc. Thomas,

1040
01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:07,400
Speaker 3: my Lord and my Savior, or crucify him. There is

1041
01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:10,400
Speaker 3: no third choice, and that's based on the Bible itself.

1042
01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:16,040
Speaker 3: For Islam, now, Jesus doesn't mean what he says. I

1043
01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:20,919
Speaker 3: believe Islam is more insulting to Jesus than any rejection

1044
01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:22,360
Speaker 3: that could possibly be.

1045
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Speaker 2: Salam al Masri.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Thank you so much, and thank

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