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Speaker 3: Got a hot one for you today. Two great guests.

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Speaker 1: First one Marty McCarey, Doctor Martin McCarey, the Commissioner of

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Speaker 1: the Food and Drug Administration, and we're talking about food

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Speaker 1: and drugs and administration. We're gonna be talking about eating

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Speaker 1: heavily processed foods, how to get away from that. We're

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Speaker 1: me talking about the latest cutting and cutting edge drugs,

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Speaker 1: in particular cancer drugs, things like that that he's excited about.

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Speaker 1: And we're talking to administration because it's the bureaucratic nonsense

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Speaker 1: that really gums up the works at a pretty vital organization,

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Speaker 1: particularly for you in the Mahawk crowd. We get into

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Speaker 1: all that before we talk to Joe Bruders, who runs

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Speaker 1: the RNC. He has got to have a historic victory

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Speaker 1: this November. If we want to stave off all of

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Speaker 1: the impeachments and investigations and the nonsense is going to

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Speaker 1: ruin Trump's second half of his second term. We're hoping

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Speaker 1: against that, and we go through the math, we break

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Speaker 1: down some of the races and some of the things

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Speaker 1: he's looking for to see if we can do it,

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Speaker 1: if we could pull off the unexpected. I think we can,

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Speaker 1: if we put our head down, and he'll give us

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Speaker 1: some tools on how we can get involved early and often.

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Speaker 3: It's give me a great shoe, check it out.

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Speaker 1: Very happy to have back Chairman Marty McCarey, FDA Administrator,

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Speaker 1: and I want to talk to you, sir.

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Speaker 3: About number of things.

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Speaker 1: We't talk about cancer, drugs and when talks to MAHA

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Speaker 1: with you. But I want to start with something that's

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Speaker 1: very very cool that's happening right now is the FDA

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Speaker 1: has I think, taken a pretty solid stance on going

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Speaker 1: away from animal testing, shifting away from animal testing.

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Speaker 3: The NIH and the EPA are doing this as well.

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Speaker 1: It's another one of those things on Trump's list of

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Speaker 1: things that I thought the left cared about this stuff,

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Speaker 1: and yet he's the one who's taking bold action on it,

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Speaker 1: and he has his knack for taking the less best ideas.

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Speaker 3: Tell me about what we need to know.

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Speaker 4: Here, well, Alex, we have a roadmap to get away

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Speaker 4: from animal testing that's unnecessary, and that's a lot of

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Speaker 4: animal testing, because animal testing is not very good. It

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Speaker 4: have better technology now. We have computational modeling where the

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Speaker 4: in ways that are more predictive mathematically than just giving

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Speaker 4: We also have something called organ on a chip technology

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Speaker 4: bottom line is these are modern techniques whereby we can

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Speaker 4: So we got rid of the one hundred and forty

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Speaker 4: a drug is approved in Europe, why are we requiring

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Speaker 3: Drug to go through the FDA. It's already approved in Europe.

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Speaker 3: That's the kind of stuff that has been long overdue. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it is long overdue. But what were the hold up?

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Speaker 3: You know, I don't know. It's hard to get things

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Speaker 4: There were there were strides of progress in the past

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Speaker 4: But we've announced in the twelve months that I've been

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Speaker 4: You know, in the nineteen there was a drug approved

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Speaker 1: It's very good and something that's very welcome in such

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Speaker 1: a dynamic environment where we're seeing the huge uptick in cancers,

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Speaker 1: One thing that is we're in a real moment culturally

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Speaker 4: Well, it should not be a first line treatment. It

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Speaker 4: It augments those hormones to do things like increase your

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Speaker 1: And they give you that crispy die coke that I

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Speaker 3: To stop consuming such things all the time? Well, first of.

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Speaker 4: All, this has been ignored by the medical establishment for

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Speaker 3: We've ended that corruption.

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Speaker 4: We put out a new face pyramid telling people the truth,

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Speaker 1: FDA Commissioner, I said, chairman earlier. Chairman is a good

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Speaker 1: to welcome back to the show. RNC chairman, Joe Gruder's chairman.

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Speaker 3: We have to win.

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Speaker 5: for me, I always say that if you leave people

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Speaker 5: and organize them in a way to where they can

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Speaker 5: be productive and they feel like they're being valued, which

443
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Speaker 5: you can and which we're trying to do here at

444
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Speaker 5: the party, that's the way to win over voters and

445
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Speaker 5: get people to focus on winning rather than the infighting

446
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Speaker 5: you see on both sides of the party.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, very good.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So do you feel like you've got the numbers,

449
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Speaker 1: because again in politics, you've got.

450
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Speaker 3: To there's two stores of resources.

451
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Speaker 1: There's people and then there is money. I'll ask about

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Speaker 1: money in a moment, But do you have enough people?

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Speaker 1: Do you feel like you've got the volunteers necessary?

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Speaker 5: Well, that's why we're always recruiting, and I always say,

455
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Speaker 5: right now, go to gop dot com.

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Speaker 3: Give us your time or treasure.

457
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Speaker 5: We need people to pull work, be pull workers, We

458
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Speaker 5: need people to be pull watchers.

459
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Speaker 3: We need people to do.

460
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Speaker 5: The ground game, like walking door a door, making calls.

461
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Speaker 5: You could be productive and you can help us because

462
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Speaker 5: we're going to need everybody to convince these low propensity

463
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Speaker 5: voters to show up. And yes, I think we will.

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Speaker 5: I think we've You know, if you look back in

465
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Speaker 5: twenty twenty the wake up call that we had, and

466
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Speaker 5: then go to twenty twenty two, we got a little

467
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Speaker 5: bit better, especially on electric election integrity. Twenty twenty four

468
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Speaker 5: we were even better. We have people deployed right now

469
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Speaker 5: across the country, both from a grassroots standpoint and an

470
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Speaker 5: election integrity standpoint. As we build up to get ready

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Speaker 5: for the midterms, we will be prepared.

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Speaker 3: We will.

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Speaker 5: We will make sure that we have the people in

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Speaker 5: place that will allow us to turn out our voters

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Speaker 5: to make sure that we can have a chance at

476
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Speaker 5: defying history in November.

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Speaker 1: What are the type of people who are the best

478
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Speaker 1: target for the door knocking ground game stuff? Because it

479
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Speaker 1: feels like it be younger people, but maybe not. I mean,

480
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Speaker 1: maybe that's just really because what's noteworthy is that younger

481
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Speaker 1: people seem to be the highest energy, but then in

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Speaker 1: terms of a percentage, it seems like older people are

483
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Speaker 1: the ones who are way more likely to vote. So

484
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Speaker 1: where you recruit in that regard. Really, it's across the boards.

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Speaker 5: You got to just have people that have the fire

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Speaker 5: in their belly and who have passion.

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Speaker 3: Right, if you believe.

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Speaker 5: That this president, I always say, look at what happened

489
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Speaker 5: to Butler, Pennsylvania. If you believe like I do, that

490
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Speaker 5: the president moved his head and I think God saved him.

491
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Speaker 5: And if you believe that he saved them to save

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Speaker 5: the country, he not only is saving the country, but

493
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Speaker 5: he's saving the world. And what the Democrats are going

494
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Speaker 5: to do if they win, they're gonna obstruct us. They're

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Speaker 5: gonna say all the great things this president's doing. Then

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Speaker 5: it's gonna be a hard stop. That's why you see

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Speaker 5: all the chaos. Now, that's why when the dh just

498
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Speaker 5: shut down, they're trying to create chaos. They have no

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Speaker 5: plan other than the fact that they hate the president

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Speaker 5: and the fact that he's accomplishing so much and he's

501
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Speaker 5: doing exactly what he said he was going to campaign on.

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Speaker 3: That's what it's all about. Yeah, really interesting.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So the next thing I want to get into

504
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Speaker 1: is that what also needs to happen in the economy.

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Speaker 1: This is not something that is your purview, per se

506
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Speaker 1: But here's what I'm nervous about here, and I'm going

507
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Speaker 1: to really give the president a really wide birth to

508
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Speaker 1: do what he needs to do politically. And I am

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Speaker 1: in the group that thinks that iron pursuing a nuclear

510
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Speaker 1: weapon is an existential threat to mankind. And the President,

511
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Speaker 1: I think was very justified in trying to take that out.

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Speaker 1: But we know half the country is going to disagree

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Speaker 1: with everything he does, and we know a portion of

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Speaker 1: his base is not going to want any foreign intervention

515
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Speaker 1: at all. And so if we see any sort of

516
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Speaker 1: economic teetering over this summer, it's going to make your

517
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Speaker 1: job a heck of a lot harder come November.

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Speaker 3: So what are you looking to see?

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Speaker 1: What are you hoping to see economically as we head

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Speaker 1: towards the summer. Well, first off, I'll say this is

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Speaker 1: President Trump is the president of peace. You know, he

522
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Speaker 1: negotiated eight piece deals before this conflict and I ran

523
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Speaker 1: came up.

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Speaker 3: But you're exactly right.

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Speaker 5: Forty seven years of evil where they killed countless Americans

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Speaker 5: over and over again, and it's been the mission of

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Speaker 5: every administration to stop Iran from attaining nuclear weapons and

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Speaker 5: other weapons.

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Speaker 3: And so this.

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Speaker 5: President, I'm positive he did the right thing, and he

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Speaker 5: says it himself.

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Speaker 3: We're going to hear it later.

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Speaker 5: I think this is he said, the mission is temporary,

534
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Speaker 5: the pain is temporary, but we're doing the right.

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Speaker 3: Thing at the end of the day.

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Speaker 5: And yes that when the President got elected, this economy

537
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Speaker 5: was in ruins, inflation with skyrocketing prices were out of control,

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Speaker 5: and he went in, he went to work. We have

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Speaker 5: one of the best cabinets that's ever been assembled, and

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Speaker 5: they're all following the President his effort to make sure

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Speaker 5: that the average American.

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Speaker 3: Out there has some type of relief.

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Speaker 5: We saw egg prices drop, we saw gas prices drop,

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Speaker 5: we saw mortgage rates start to drop. The jobs not

545
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Speaker 5: over and of course, now with this temporary setback with Iran,

546
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Speaker 5: how can we bring affordability? And we obviously have empathy

547
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Speaker 5: in feel for everybody out there. But like the President says,

548
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Speaker 5: is hopefully we'll be temporary. We'll get back on track,

549
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Speaker 5: and I fully expect I talked to a secretary of Vessett.

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Speaker 5: I fully expect a roaring economy by the time we

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Speaker 5: hit November.

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Speaker 1: All right, So I mentioned people, people matters, but also

553
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Speaker 1: money matters. And I know you're fundraising over time as well.

554
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Speaker 1: How's the fundraising going? One of the benchmarks, you feel

555
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Speaker 1: like that you're getting good small dollar donors, how about

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Speaker 1: the big dollar donors at any points that you want

557
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Speaker 1: to observe.

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Speaker 5: Well, it makes it a lot easier when you have

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Speaker 5: the Vice President of the United States as your finance chairman.

560
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Speaker 5: And so the first time that's ever happened. We've been

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Speaker 5: traveling together raising tons of money.

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Speaker 3: I think we'll.

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Speaker 5: Report this first quarter, which will end today, it's probably

564
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Speaker 5: going to be one of our largest quarters in the

565
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Speaker 5: history of the party. We're absolutely crushing it from a

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Speaker 5: fundraising standpoint. And what's interesting about the fundraising is you

567
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Speaker 5: got to think about the fact that we have a

568
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Speaker 5: lot fewer races because all the redistricting, So you're not

569
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Speaker 5: going to see these wild swings, these sixty or seven

570
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Speaker 5: seat flips. We have much fewer races. We have superior financing.

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Speaker 5: There's some other things in the Supreme Court that's about

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Speaker 5: to be that come down that will help us even

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Speaker 5: more if they if they go our way. And as

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Speaker 5: a result, I think we're crushing it. And if you

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Speaker 5: look at the DNC, I read article after article in

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Speaker 5: fact that they're chairman. You know, he's raising money, but

577
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Speaker 5: he's they're spending everything. You know, my mission when I

578
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,400
Speaker 5: took this job was single fold. It was to make

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Speaker 5: sure we hold the majorities into when and so we're preparing.

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Speaker 5: We're building our silos up to get ready for the

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Speaker 5: battle ahead. We won't be under futted, that's for sure.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 1: So there's a the expectation game in DC. It's always constant,

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Speaker 1: especially in our current or are where one is a

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Speaker 1: predictor of things. Everyone expects the Democrats to sweep to

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Speaker 1: the House majority and possibly Senate. Do you think that

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Speaker 1: this is the Democrats are over confident? The media is

588
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Speaker 1: over confident. Is something you can maybe use to your advantage.

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Speaker 5: Well, listen, I go back to look at the things

590
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Speaker 5: that we have going for us. We have the financial advantage,

591
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Speaker 5: we have the messaging advantage. We have the best messenger

592
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Speaker 5: that's ever existed. We have the best showman that's ever existed.

593
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Speaker 5: He's willing to burnstorm the country. This president knows how

594
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Speaker 5: to win. We have a team that is united, that

595
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 5: wants to win. And so you know, the President's gone

596
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Speaker 5: out there and picked a lot of candidates that he

597
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Speaker 5: thinks that are the right candidates to win these races.

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Speaker 5: Of course there are NC stays out of it, but

599
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Speaker 5: if you get an endorsement from the President, it's like

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Speaker 5: a golden ticket.

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Speaker 3: In some of these races we have to win.

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Speaker 5: The President's gotten involved and as a result, we have

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Speaker 5: the candidates we want in a lot of these races,

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Speaker 5: we have the resources that back those candidates, we have

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Speaker 5: people on the ground that's willing to help, and we

606
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Speaker 5: have the President. So I'm personally optimistic and we could

607
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Speaker 5: be the fifth time in in the last one hundred

608
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Speaker 5: and fifty years if we get the fi history and

609
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Speaker 5: all the naysayers and the doom and gloom guys that

610
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Speaker 5: are out there that are pointing these small races here

611
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Speaker 5: and there that are special elections, get ready because we

612
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Speaker 5: are working around the clock to make sure that we

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Speaker 5: produce some wins in November.

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Speaker 1: So those of us who work on politics at Bright

615
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Speaker 1: Bart we were kicking around this analysis from a guy

616
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Speaker 1: named Seth Keshel, who's an author. I wasn't super familiar

617
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Speaker 1: with him, but he'd a really interesting take on the House.

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Speaker 1: He said that he thinks basically three hundred and ninety

619
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Speaker 1: six seats are not competitive, and then he thinks it's

620
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Speaker 1: about twenty more seats that are really heavily favoring one

621
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Speaker 1: party or the other of the remaining seats, and that

622
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Speaker 1: leaves only about nineteen or so that are truly up

623
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Speaker 1: for grabs, which means that either way it could be

624
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Speaker 1: a very tight house race. And is it really from

625
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Speaker 1: your mindset that there's really somewhere between twenty and forty

626
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Speaker 1: seats that are top priority and you feel like that

627
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Speaker 1: either way it's going to be close. Is that something

628
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Speaker 1: that resonates with you at all?

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Speaker 3: You just nailed it. That's exactly right.

630
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Speaker 5: Because of redistricting, there are much fewer races that are competitive.

631
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Speaker 3: And so when you're sitting there.

632
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Speaker 5: And you have the advantage from a financial standpoint, and

633
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 5: you have the best messenger that's ever existed in party

634
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Speaker 5: politics who said he's willing to bard and storm the country, Listen,

635
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 5: after the last sixty days, you could expect us to

636
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Speaker 5: be on the ground and the President's going to be

637
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 5: doing everything you can to motivate those low propensity voters

638
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 5: that have come out for him three different times to

639
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 5: come out again. Remember, we don't need to win a

640
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Speaker 5: national race. We need to win certain Senate races. And

641
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Speaker 5: you look at our candidates in the Senate, look at

642
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Speaker 5: Rogers in Michigan, he's a phenomenal candidate, Sonunu in New

643
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 5: Hampshire who is endorsed by the President, Wattley in North Carolina, Georgia,

644
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Speaker 5: and we have other races, and then you look at

645
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Speaker 5: the House side. Yeah, I think there's forty two, forty

646
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 5: five potential races that can be competitive, and you're exactly right,

647
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Speaker 5: some of those are heavily favored. But let's say there's

648
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Speaker 5: forty five races, and if you look at the amount

649
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Speaker 5: of money that's being raised, really on both sides, but

650
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Speaker 5: on the Republican side, we're running laps around the Democrats,

651
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Speaker 5: and the Democrats are spending their money where we are

652
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Speaker 5: saving it for this the midterm battle that's coming. I

653
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 5: am very optimistic in our chances. But that's exactly right.

654
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Speaker 5: Far fewer races than you would have let's say, ten

655
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Speaker 5: years ago.

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Speaker 3: And even in the.

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Speaker 5: Easiest way to point this out is this, when I

658
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Speaker 5: first got elected as chairman, we used to say the

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Speaker 5: Trump thirteen, and that was there was thirteen United States

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Speaker 5: congressional races that the president one where a Democrat currently

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Speaker 5: holds that seat in Congress Trump thirteen. That's already down

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Speaker 5: to it Trump seven. So there's only seven seats left

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Speaker 5: like that, And so it goes to show you the

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Speaker 5: amount of how few races there are that are left

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Speaker 5: that are competitive as a result of all the redishicting.

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Speaker 3: Really interesting in the see.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it shows you how the jerry vandering has been

668
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Speaker 1: way out of control. But that's not your problem for now.

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Speaker 1: Your problem for now is try to win races. It's

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Speaker 1: also you're going to give myself assignment.

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Speaker 3: On the air. If there's really only like forty.

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Speaker 1: Competitive races, I should have my audience completely coached up.

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Speaker 3: On all of them by the by election time.

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Speaker 1: So audience, you've got my commitment that you're going to

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Speaker 1: know all these races by the time the dust settles here.

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Speaker 1: All right, So, Chairman, I'm looking at something that's really compelling.

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Speaker 1: That's happening with the current DHS shutdown, where the Republicans

678
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Speaker 1: in the Senate caved and even though ICE is almost

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Speaker 1: fully funded and the Democrats are ostensibly shutting down the

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Speaker 1: government or portions of the government to withhold funding from ICE,

681
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Speaker 1: apparently their entire voter base was unaware that Trump added

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Speaker 1: seventy billion dollars in supplemental funding for ICE, which is

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Speaker 1: like seven x their normal budget. So ICE is beyond

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Speaker 1: funded and whatever they're withholding for them now doesn't make

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Speaker 1: a difference. And so the Democrats say, we're still shutting

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Speaker 1: it down anyway because not a dollar more is they're reframed,

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Speaker 1: and the GOP Senate just goes along with it, which

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Speaker 1: is I completely understand from a practical level, but of

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Speaker 1: course the grassroots conservative in me doesn't like it. So

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Speaker 1: the House then surprised me and says, well, we're still

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Speaker 1: not going along with it.

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Speaker 3: You don't speak for us.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna keep it shut down so long as the

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Speaker 1: Democrats are unreasonable.

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Speaker 3: Again, the fire in the belly.

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Speaker 1: Conservative in me loves it, but it also seems semi

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Speaker 1: impractical too to keep going on like this, and slightly

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Speaker 1: risky that it will be the ones accused of not

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Speaker 1: being able to govern. You're talking to grassroots voters, you're

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Speaker 1: talking to donors. What do people really think here? Who's

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Speaker 1: in the right here? What's the right mood? You see

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Speaker 1: a clear right move for Republicans. I've been talking about

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Speaker 1: this for a few months now. Why because it's important

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Speaker 1: and it's helping me. It's a handheld red light therapy

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Speaker 1: I use it right at home, and what I really

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Speaker 1: like about is it's actually working on my back and

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Speaker 1: my knee and no drugs, no invasion, and wow, have

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Speaker 1: I generally noticed a difference? Okay, here's how it works.

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Speaker 1: Some power led makes devices at the liver red and

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Speaker 1: near infrared light energy directly into your cells reduces pain

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Speaker 1: and inflammation. The science is called photo biomodulation or PBM,

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Speaker 1: also known as red light therapy. You guys have heard

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Speaker 1: has been researched around the world for decades. In fact,

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Speaker 1: according to the PBM Foundation, over one hundred million patient

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Speaker 1: treatments have been performed without any documented side effects. The

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Speaker 1: patent pended cooling system that lets you hold it closer

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Speaker 1: pain and inflammation. You can treat arthritis, knee pain, back,

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Speaker 1: fifty also creates what's called a wall of light. The

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Speaker 1: LEDs project at a ninety degree angle, which eliminates hot

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Speaker 1: spots and spreads light evenly over a wider area, making

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Speaker 1: it five to nine times more effective than many alternative technologies.

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Speaker 1: These are medical grade PBM devices you can use at home,

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Speaker 1: and they're also used by dentists, chiropractors, physiotherapists, wellness centers,

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Speaker 5: Well as the mainstream media carries the water for the

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Speaker 5: Democrats and allows them to create this chaos and then

736
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Speaker 5: blames the Republicans.

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Speaker 3: In reality, it's the.

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Speaker 5: Democrats in Congress, the Democrats in the United States Senate

739
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Speaker 5: that are blocking this from moving forward. But remember what

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Speaker 5: the democrats ultimate goal is. They want to create chaos.

741
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Speaker 5: They want to take the attention on anything away from

742
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Speaker 5: what the president's doing, because the President's working on behalf

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Speaker 5: of these average Americans out there and going to bad

744
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Speaker 5: form and they can't have that, so they create these

745
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Speaker 5: issues like they're shutdown to the DHS. They should be ashamed.

746
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Speaker 5: And as a matter of fact, go back and look

747
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Speaker 5: at the State of the Union when the President said,

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Speaker 5: do you think the rights of American citizens should be

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Speaker 5: first and the first and foremost priority of America or

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Speaker 5: should it be illegals? And almost no Democrats stood up.

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Speaker 5: These guys are Yeah, they're out of control. Therefore illegals

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Speaker 5: over Americans. They're trying to hold on their grasp of power,

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Speaker 5: and they should be ashamed of themselves.

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Speaker 1: Sure, but from our vantage point as Republicans, what do

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Speaker 1: you feel like the base? Is the base wanting to

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Speaker 1: see us to just to hold the line, or is

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Speaker 1: the base wanting to see things pass like things just

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Speaker 1: get whatever it is gets. Well, what's more with the

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Speaker 1: priority here? What keeps people fired up heading into an

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Speaker 1: off year election.

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Speaker 5: We need to pass the State of America Act. There's

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Speaker 5: no reason why we shouldn't passed it the base.

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Speaker 3: I do talk to the base.

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Speaker 5: I go to local party state parties all the time.

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Speaker 5: The President wants and he's pushing the problem is that

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Speaker 5: we have no Democrats. They're always are united. And if

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Speaker 5: you look at ten years ago, we probably had thirty

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Speaker 5: five Republican senators that were on the team. Now we're

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Speaker 5: probably up to forty five. We're probably not there, But

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Speaker 5: I talked to the Vice President a couple of days ago.

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Speaker 5: I met with two US Senators that are critical to

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Speaker 5: the process two days ago, and I asked some point, Blake,

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Speaker 5: how can.

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Speaker 3: We push this forward?

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Speaker 5: How can we pass this the base that yes, you're

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Speaker 5: exactly right. People yell at me because why they think

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Speaker 5: that somehow I am ultimately responsible.

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Speaker 3: I'm not.

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Speaker 5: But we are pushing and we want we want to

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Speaker 5: push these guys as much as we can, because it's

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Speaker 5: not just about this this cycle. It's about the future

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Speaker 5: of American protecting the foundation of our democracy.

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Speaker 3: The Democrats have.

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Speaker 5: Lit ten tens of millions of illegals across our border.

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Speaker 3: And they're trying to cheat. That's the bottom line.

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Speaker 5: That's why they don't want voter ID, That's why they

787
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Speaker 5: don't want proof of citizenship. That's why they want to

788
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Speaker 5: count absentee ballots long after election day.

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Speaker 3: That's why they don't want.

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Speaker 5: Us to look at the voter rolls everything that they

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Speaker 5: do is to try to provide opportunities for there to

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Speaker 5: be distrusted in the system. And at the end of

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Speaker 5: the day, everybody should want full faith and confidence in

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Speaker 5: this election system.

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Speaker 3: They don't want it, and there's a reason why.

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Speaker 5: Because they are finding ways and trying to find ways

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Speaker 5: to allow their voters to cheat.

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Speaker 1: All right, So the election integrity stuff is huge. The

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Speaker 1: President had a big executive order which came out yesterday

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Speaker 1: as we're recording, and maybe a day or two later

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Speaker 1: when people can finally get to hear this.

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Speaker 3: What's in the executive order? What are you excited about

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Speaker 3: for it?

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Speaker 5: Well, listen, I'm glad he's stepping up and trying to

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Speaker 5: make sure we have that we could have absentee ballots again,

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Speaker 5: I go back to what we did in Florida at

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Speaker 5: the legislature and the fact that we put some of

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Speaker 5: these precautions in place that are just commons and solutions.

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Speaker 5: We shouldn't have illegal aliens voting by absentee ballot.

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Speaker 3: It should be a simple process.

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Speaker 5: You should be able to prove if you're an absentee

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Speaker 5: ballot that you're an American Systen and you're a voter.

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Speaker 5: Because Ultimately, we want to make it as easy as

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Speaker 5: possible to vote and as hard as possible to cheat.

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Speaker 5: You already saw Gavin new said he was going to sue.

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Speaker 5: Chuck Schumer said he was going to sue, and they're suing.

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Speaker 5: View is they want to protect their right to make

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Speaker 5: sure that their voters who were potentially are illegals, they

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Speaker 5: want to give them that right. And again go back

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Speaker 5: to what are the Democrats for therefore protecting illegals over

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Speaker 5: American rights. If you're an American, you should demand one

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Speaker 5: vote for every citizen.

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Speaker 3: That's so, that's all we want.

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Speaker 1: So one thing that's interesting also, and I've spoke to

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Speaker 1: the Commerce Secretary about this an event we did with him,

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Speaker 1: is that you guys gonna be using the US Postal

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Speaker 1: Service or the Trump administration is using the US Postal

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Speaker 1: Service to try to do some of the census, And

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Speaker 1: it feels like the Postal Service could be a way

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Speaker 1: to be a mechanism to check to make sure that

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Speaker 1: we're doing a lot of voting integrity issues. Are you

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Speaker 1: up on this stuff, Chairman, because it feels like this

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Speaker 1: is a there's a lot of infrastructure built with their

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Speaker 1: postal service that could be used for good.

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Speaker 5: Yes, And I think that the Presence well aware and

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Speaker 5: he's doing whatever he possibly can. Because we can't pass

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Speaker 5: things like the es Save America Act, which I hope

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Speaker 5: we can do.

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Speaker 3: At the end of the day, he has to do

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Speaker 3: things like these executive orders.

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Speaker 5: So I'm glad he stepped up and he's trying to

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Speaker 5: push this this forward. And yes, the US Postal Service,

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Speaker 5: I have full faith in them, and listen, we can

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Speaker 5: get this right, whether it be envelopes, whether it be

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Speaker 5: making sure that people say who they say they are

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Speaker 5: as they're voting. Simple stuff we've done in Florida. We've

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Speaker 5: proved that it could work. We get and again it

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Speaker 5: goes back to having full faith and confidency election system.

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Speaker 3: Right now, we don't have it.

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Speaker 5: The Democrats want a free for all on so many

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Speaker 5: different things. We got to get this under control, all right.

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Speaker 1: So I may make this a part of my Easter

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Speaker 1: show if I'll come out right before Easter, Chairman, and

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you that we call Easter here in the

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Speaker 1: United States. Now these days we also call it Transgender.

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Speaker 3: Day of Visibility.

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden had done this a couple of years ago,

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Speaker 1: and so we still celebrated here. I want to know

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Speaker 1: how you're celebrating transgender Day of Visibility.

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Speaker 5: Well, you think about Transgender Visibility Day, I mean, what

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Speaker 5: the bunch of left wing wacka do's on the left.

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Speaker 5: That's what they want you to focus on. They want

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Speaker 5: to put boys and women's sports. They want to put

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Speaker 5: boys in your daughter's locker rooms.

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Speaker 3: It makes no sense.

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Speaker 5: They've gone so far away from the mainstream and common

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Speaker 5: sense and reality and reasonableness.

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Speaker 3: They should be ashamed of themselves.

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Speaker 5: As for me and my family, we're going to church

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Speaker 5: right here in DC on Sunday, and we're gonna go

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Speaker 5: pick up if we're gonna go.

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Speaker 3: Catch the Nationals game.

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Speaker 5: So we're excited, my boys and my daughter and my wife.

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Speaker 5: We're gonna spend the weekend looking at cherry blossoms and

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Speaker 5: enjoying all the great things DC.

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Speaker 3: Has to offer.

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Speaker 1: Way way too normal, very normal. You should be having

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Speaker 1: a men with brass on the White House lawn. I

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Speaker 1: a day that is a real thing.

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Speaker 3: And people think I'm joking when I say that.

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Speaker 1: Biden literally declared Easter Sunday Transgender Day Visibility. So it's

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Speaker 1: a completely bizarre man. That's why I wrote so much

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Speaker 1: about them. All right, Chairman, last one for today, give

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Speaker 1: me your top three arguments for people who gonna be

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Speaker 1: seeing family. I know I'm going on a trip traveling

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Speaker 1: and family. Not all of them share my politics. Over

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Speaker 1: the weekend. Give me your top three things you think

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Speaker 1: that you should be sharing with people to gear them

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Speaker 1: should be voting Republican.

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Speaker 5: Listen, go back to the boys and girls' locker rooms.

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Speaker 5: Number one, Number two, the fact that they would not

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Speaker 5: stand when the president asked them. Do you think Americans

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Speaker 5: should be the first priority of the government rather than illegals?

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Speaker 5: That number two, number three just basic reasonableness and common sense.

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Speaker 3: This president is literally.

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Speaker 5: Going out there not only to save the country, but

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Speaker 5: saving the world. We need everybody's help if we're going

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Speaker 5: to win this election in November. To DeFi history, go

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Speaker 5: to gop dot com. Join us, give us your time

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Speaker 5: or treasure and join our movement as we get ready

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Speaker 5: to have surprised a lot of people with these victories

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Speaker 5: coming up.

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Speaker 1: Chairman Levy Energy, thank you for stopping by the Marlow Show,

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Speaker 1: and we'll talk so thanks so much,