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<v Speaker 1>Richard Goldberg as a senior advisor at the Foundation for

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<v Speaker 1>the Defensive Democracy. He's one of those people actually knows

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<v Speaker 1>what he's talking about. On Iran, Richard, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>start with this story from Iran International Iran Central Bank Warrens'

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<v Speaker 1>economy may take twelve years to rebuild after the war.

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<v Speaker 1>How much credibility did you give this report?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it probably has a good deal of credibility. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I think our own back of the envelope has been

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<v Speaker 2>in the hundreds of billions of dollars of damage done

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<v Speaker 2>to the economy already on our side. Now, obviously the Iranians,

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<v Speaker 2>for their own propaganda, might want to try to put

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<v Speaker 2>out a big number because they've supposedly asked for some

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<v Speaker 2>sort of reparation.

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<v Speaker 3>Payments and negotiations.

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<v Speaker 2>But at the same time, Iran International usually gets a

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<v Speaker 2>hold of some pretty good information, some good intelligues, and

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<v Speaker 2>so I think if you match that with what they

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<v Speaker 2>had also reported a few weeks ago of President Pizeski

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<v Speaker 2>and sending almost a memo to these IRGC officials who've

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<v Speaker 2>taken charge of the country, saying we can't hold out

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<v Speaker 2>much longer. The whole economy is on the verge of collapse.

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<v Speaker 2>It does paint a much more dire picture of what's

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<v Speaker 2>going on inside the country for this rum regime than

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<v Speaker 2>what they would lead us to believe through their cognitive warfare.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, Richard, the one thing that makes me uneasy is

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<v Speaker 1>I used to have friends who knew about the South

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<v Speaker 1>African regime before it it gave way, and they could

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<v Speaker 1>have gone to the mattresses. They could have kept their nukes,

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<v Speaker 1>they could have kept their bank accounts. The Iranian regime

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<v Speaker 1>has got a lot of money stowed away overseas in

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<v Speaker 1>shadow accounts and in banking even in the UAE and Dubai.

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<v Speaker 1>Do we have any plan to cut them off from

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<v Speaker 1>that money if they don't come to the table.

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<v Speaker 2>I think your question couldn't be more timely. It would

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<v Speaker 2>appear what the administration is doing right now, combined with

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<v Speaker 2>the blockade on the naval waters, is going from Operation

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<v Speaker 2>epic Fury to Operation economic Fury. And so a letter

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<v Speaker 2>apparently was sent just today to the UAE, to Oman,

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<v Speaker 2>to Hong Kong, and to China and all their banks saying,

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<v Speaker 2>we know that there's shadow banking. We know you may

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<v Speaker 2>be holding onto or processing some sort of Iranian funds.

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<v Speaker 2>We are watching. We are now on warning. We are

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<v Speaker 2>going to use the full maximum pressure of our sanctions

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<v Speaker 2>and cut you off from the United States the minute

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<v Speaker 2>we have evidence that you are handling their funds. Stop

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<v Speaker 2>it right now, freeze them in place. We'll see if

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<v Speaker 2>that has.

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<v Speaker 3>A big impact.

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<v Speaker 2>That was a big warning letter just sent out in

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<v Speaker 2>the last few hours. And then on top of that,

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<v Speaker 2>obviously the lack of imports coming into the country. We

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<v Speaker 2>focus a lot on the export cutoff of oil, obviously

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<v Speaker 2>in other exports where they would get revenue, but they

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<v Speaker 2>can't import either, and so that's also going to create

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<v Speaker 2>a major balance of payments crisis. The prices inside the

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<v Speaker 2>country are going skyrocket, hyperinflation going through the roof, even

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<v Speaker 2>where it already is at the banks, which were already

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<v Speaker 2>teetering back in January. We know about we'll have even

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<v Speaker 2>more pressure on them, and gasoline will not be coming

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<v Speaker 2>into the country, something that increasingly last year they had

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<v Speaker 2>to rely on imports for and it actually just cut

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<v Speaker 2>subsidies on at the end of last year.

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<v Speaker 1>So Richard I stayed up late Saturday night waiting for

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<v Speaker 1>the Vice president to come out and make a statement,

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<v Speaker 1>very very relieved when it turned out to be Recovic

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<v Speaker 1>two point zero and not Munich. Are you feeling good

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<v Speaker 1>right now about where Team Trump is vis a VI

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<v Speaker 1>the remnants of this regime?

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<v Speaker 2>I am if you put aside the cognitive warfare piece

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<v Speaker 2>that this run regime is very good at. And unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 2>they have a lot of nodes throughout the United States

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<v Speaker 2>that can echo and their propaganda, you know, unnamed sources

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<v Speaker 2>suddenly in the Wall Street Journal or Axios wherever it is,

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<v Speaker 2>and they can push this out onto social.

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<v Speaker 3>Media and you believe that we're losing. Oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 3>we're losing. How is this possible?

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<v Speaker 2>I think the more accurate assessment is likely what the presidencies,

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<v Speaker 2>which is a rump regime that has no ability to

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<v Speaker 2>defend the country anymore is hanging on to remnant offensive

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<v Speaker 2>capabilities to keep that propaganda going. Is on the verge

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<v Speaker 2>of an economic collapse potentially if you push them over

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<v Speaker 2>the edge. So I don't think he would be inclined

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<v Speaker 2>to say, hey, I'm going to give you back to

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<v Speaker 2>JCVOA after I've brought you to the brink of collapse.

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<v Speaker 2>But at the same time, we probably have a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit of deficiency in the full intel picture because a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people are dead, a lot of other people

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<v Speaker 2>are hiding, the communication is broken down, and actually having

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<v Speaker 2>a delegation come to Islamabad and watching them, how they prepared,

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<v Speaker 2>Who was there, who seems to be the leader, who's

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<v Speaker 2>in charge? Who do they have to report to when

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<v Speaker 2>they go back to Tehran. In the fact that the

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<v Speaker 2>Vice president said they couldn't make a decision, he had

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<v Speaker 2>to go back and talk to somebody, he said, the

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<v Speaker 2>Supreme Leader or somebody in his interview that you just played.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think we're learning a lot more about the

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<v Speaker 2>dysfunction inside. Now the bombs have stopped dropping for the

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<v Speaker 2>moment in the ceasefire, the Iranian side's probably learning a

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<v Speaker 2>lot more about the devastation that they have actually suffered.

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<v Speaker 2>And now with the US Navy through the Strait, alongside

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<v Speaker 2>a blockade and the crack down on the banks, this

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<v Speaker 2>is a lot of leverage for the President of the

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<v Speaker 2>United States to get what he wants at the table.

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<v Speaker 1>And Richard, a key player who's not at the table

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<v Speaker 1>but is in the background is the People's Republic of China.

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<v Speaker 1>What did they want to see happen? Do you think

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<v Speaker 1>what is it least acceptable for them to see happen?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, two things I would say.

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<v Speaker 2>First of all, the Chinese and the Russians have not

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<v Speaker 2>come to the rescue of the remnant regime.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a lot of you know, unnamed sources.

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<v Speaker 2>Though there might be a shipment of radar coming, or

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<v Speaker 2>of air defense or preakers or chemicals for fear Muel,

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<v Speaker 2>none of that has actually materialized. And from a substantive

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<v Speaker 2>contribution to saving the regime from the devastation of epic fury,

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<v Speaker 2>nothing actually was there. So, you know, whatever they thought

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<v Speaker 2>they were going to rely on from their agreements with

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<v Speaker 2>the Chinese with the Russians didn't come to fruition. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>the Chinese obviously have sort of a double edged sword here.

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<v Speaker 3>On the one side, They.

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<v Speaker 2>Depend on all of the oil and petrochemicals and other

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<v Speaker 2>imports out of the Golf.

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<v Speaker 3>Not just Iran, which is one point five to two million.

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<v Speaker 2>Barrels per day of illicit oil exports that they're getting,

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<v Speaker 2>plus the petrochemicals, but also Saudi Arabia, the UAE, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>all the players that you would think of. They're importing

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<v Speaker 2>massive more amounts for their own economy from the Golf.

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<v Speaker 3>They can't actually long term.

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<v Speaker 2>Sustain the idea of the Strait of Hormuz being shut

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<v Speaker 2>down or the Iranian somehow being control of their fate

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<v Speaker 2>and destiny. At the same time, they have been stockpiling

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<v Speaker 2>for years now with the cheap discounted sanction oil from Iran,

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<v Speaker 2>from Russia, from Venezuela, and had some sort of runway

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<v Speaker 2>to try to see if the Iranians could hold on,

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<v Speaker 2>could we lose control, Could this turnout in their favor

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<v Speaker 2>where we lose control of the Strait of Hormus.

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<v Speaker 3>Now that we have.

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<v Speaker 2>Transitioned from epic fury to economic fury and we're imposing

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<v Speaker 2>our will potentially on the imports and exports out of Iran,

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<v Speaker 2>the Chinese are now seeing their fate may.

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<v Speaker 3>Be in our hands.

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<v Speaker 2>They're still going to need the oil to come out

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<v Speaker 2>of the Strait of horm moves, they still need stability

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<v Speaker 2>to be restored. But we are now setting the terms,

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<v Speaker 2>and so if we're able to actually keep this blockade

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<v Speaker 2>in place, actually be able to dictate the future of

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<v Speaker 2>the Strait of Hormuz. This is not a good future

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<v Speaker 2>for the Chinese. They stand to benefit from us opening

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<v Speaker 2>the strait and bringing them their own oil out from

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<v Speaker 2>Saudi Arabia and the rest of the Gulf, but they will,

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<v Speaker 2>long term, and I think they know this, have a

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<v Speaker 2>strategic loss in all they've invested in in Tehran.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, one minute, Richard, the friends of Iran and

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<v Speaker 1>any American media are people who at least not enemies

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<v Speaker 1>of On, are spinning the Lebanon situation wildly. What do

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<v Speaker 1>we have one minute? What do you understand the situation

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<v Speaker 1>in Lebanon to be.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Hesbel obviously is the og of the terrorist proxies

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<v Speaker 2>of the regime in Tehran, and they got into the

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<v Speaker 2>fight on order of Tehran in the middle of epic fury,

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<v Speaker 2>and they started launching their missiles and their drones and

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<v Speaker 2>their rockets at the state of Israel under cover of

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<v Speaker 2>ceasefire for the last couple of years, since the end

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<v Speaker 2>of the Biden administration, when when they pushed the Israelis

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<v Speaker 2>into a ceasefire in Lebanon. Obviously, Iran has been trying

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<v Speaker 2>to rebuild Hesbela. The Israelis have incredible intelligence. It appears

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<v Speaker 2>a massive operation to neutralize hundreds of operatives and officials

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<v Speaker 2>very quickly. The regime would like to see Hesbela survive.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think the United States wants to see that happen.

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<v Speaker 2>Israel doesn't want to see that happen, and the US

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<v Speaker 2>is now on Israel's side, working with the government of Lebanon,

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<v Speaker 2>bringing them to the US to say, work with us

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<v Speaker 2>to take back your country. We're not giving Lebanon back

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<v Speaker 2>to Iran.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you are right, Richard Goldberg, thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>joining me from the Foundation for the Defensive Democracy. Welcome back, America.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Hugh Hewett. That music means David Druckers in the House.

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<v Speaker 1>David is the chief political correspondent for the Dispatch. He's

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<v Speaker 1>also Cammis for Bloomberg. David, you and I are Californians,

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<v Speaker 1>though we have both fled the state California lost Eric

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<v Speaker 1>Swalwell this week from the ticket and from their delegation.

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<v Speaker 1>Now Ever since Fang Thang, I've known he was not

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<v Speaker 1>to be trusted, but I just thought he was an

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<v Speaker 1>average knucklehead. I didn't know he was a predator. Had

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<v Speaker 1>you ever heard whispers that he was a predator? Ian?

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<v Speaker 4>Nothing credible, I mean, nothing that made me feel the

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<v Speaker 4>need to look into it. The thing about Hugh, the

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<v Speaker 4>thing about being a reporter in Washington is like I

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<v Speaker 4>received a rumor of just about everybody in public life

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<v Speaker 4>at one time or another, and so that's the sort

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<v Speaker 4>of thing that just happens. So, like you, I was surprised.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, look, I always thought Swalwell was punching above

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<v Speaker 4>his weight and that he seemed like effective member of

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<v Speaker 4>the House of Representatives for what his Democratic constituents wanted

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<v Speaker 4>out of him. But you know, I never saw him

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<v Speaker 4>as his presidential material if he ran for president in

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<v Speaker 4>twenty twenty four briefly or twenty twenty one of those,

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<v Speaker 4>and when he emerged as a top contended for governor

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<v Speaker 4>in California, I was somewhat surprised. But you know, talking

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<v Speaker 4>to some people back there, you know, Democratic voters who

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<v Speaker 4>you know, really don't I mean, Democratic voters don't like

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<v Speaker 4>Trump in California. It's like ratchet at up times ten.

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<v Speaker 4>They liked swollwell because he was so combative versus Trump.

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<v Speaker 4>So it makes sense in retrospect. But no, no inkling

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<v Speaker 4>of this.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, let's let's talk about that race. Two people make

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<v Speaker 1>it through to jungle primary. Republican are kind of hoping

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<v Speaker 1>that Steve Hilton and the Sheriff of San Bernardino whose

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<v Speaker 1>name I can't recall, Bianco make it through, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>thinking God forbid. But I'm thinking Katie Porter is the

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<v Speaker 1>one who bounces up. Is there any way Antonio Viragosa

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<v Speaker 1>or anybody else can catch Katie Porter at this point?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you know, the latest polling I've seen has shown

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<v Speaker 4>Tom steyerway up there because he's basically, you know, spending

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<v Speaker 4>the entire GDP of six countries to try and get elected.

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<v Speaker 4>But it might work in this case. California is not

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<v Speaker 4>big on retail politics. You know, you and I are

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<v Speaker 4>both from there. It's not big on retail politics. It's

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<v Speaker 4>a huge state and it's all about advertising, and so

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<v Speaker 4>it kind of makes sense that this is the kind

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<v Speaker 4>of campaign Stire could finally win with all of his money,

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<v Speaker 4>and I wonder if instead of Port or some other

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<v Speaker 4>Democrat can break loose and you know, either give Styre

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<v Speaker 4>a run for his money or escape into the top

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<v Speaker 4>two with Stire.

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<v Speaker 5>But you know, we're gonna have to see what happens.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Dave, one thing you know, and I know from

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<v Speaker 1>our years and decades in California, there are two organizations

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<v Speaker 1>that matter, the SCIU Service Employees International Union and the

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<v Speaker 1>California Teachers Association. And they have the troops, They've got

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<v Speaker 1>the infantry, they can season old ground, they can turn

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<v Speaker 1>in the absentees that are left lying around. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>saying they cheat. I'm just saying they're very good at

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<v Speaker 1>ballot collecting, which is legal in California. Have you seen

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<v Speaker 1>any indication that either of them has thrown their weight

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<v Speaker 1>one way or the other.

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<v Speaker 4>I haven't, But you know, I haven't followed this race

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<v Speaker 4>too closely, just with so much else to follow in California.

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<v Speaker 5>Just it seems so predictable.

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<v Speaker 4>But you know, now it's at least interesting in that

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<v Speaker 4>Democrats were really in a bind there because they had

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<v Speaker 4>so many candidates who were convinced that two of them

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<v Speaker 4>would get into the second round, if you will, that's

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<v Speaker 4>going to be held on election day in November, that

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<v Speaker 4>they weren't worried about, you know, clogging the drain there

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<v Speaker 4>and allowing two Republicans to slip through instead. And there

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<v Speaker 4>was a real concern for a while, but nobody would

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<v Speaker 4>get out of the way, so small wells bad behavior

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<v Speaker 4>solves that problem for them, And I suspect at some

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<v Speaker 4>point the players will start to drift in the direction

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<v Speaker 4>of somebody. I think what they're waiting to see is,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, who really emerges as that second tier Democrat

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<v Speaker 4>or that second Democrat to go catch up to Styre now,

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<v Speaker 4>or you know, let's see if the polling in the

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<v Speaker 4>next couple of weeks totally turns upside down and looks differently.

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<v Speaker 5>Porter's problem is that she's not likable, she doesn't.

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<v Speaker 4>Handle the press well, and she's just not the kind

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<v Speaker 4>of candidate that people warned to.

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<v Speaker 5>There's no charm there, and that's just a big problem

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<v Speaker 5>for her.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, domestic violence doesn't go over well with people, and

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<v Speaker 1>dumping what was it potatoes on her husband ex husband's head,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure what the story was. I'll have to

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<v Speaker 1>check it out, but she's not a likable person. She

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<v Speaker 1>was my congresswoman for a while back in the old day.

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<v Speaker 1>She replaced eventually a Mimi Walters, who replaced hn Campbell

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<v Speaker 1>back in the days when I lived in Orange County.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me ask you about Styer, though I have very

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<v Speaker 1>little experience with it, other than the fact I believe

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<v Speaker 1>his campaign misled the Nixon Library when they wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>cut an ad there. They said they just wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>use the backdrop, and as I recall, they actually slam Nixon.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's kind of sneaky, disgusting. What's your opinion of Styer?

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<v Speaker 5>Just look, he's just he's a vanity candidate.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, look, he's been very successful in business, so

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<v Speaker 4>let me give him his due.

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<v Speaker 5>The guy's made a lot of money. It's been very.

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<v Speaker 4>Successful, and like a lot of successful people, they somehow

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<v Speaker 4>decide the best thing they can do with all their

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<v Speaker 4>money is wasted on a campaign. And so he spent

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of money running for president, didn't get anywhere,

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<v Speaker 4>and I mean a lot of money. And now he's

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<v Speaker 4>spending a lot of money in California running for governor.

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<v Speaker 4>And now the thing he has going from California in this

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<v Speaker 4>race is Californians tend to elect boring bland, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>non charismatic people as their chief executive. I mean Arnold

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<v Speaker 4>Schwarzenegger and Ronald Reagan, and I suppose Pat Brown. Notwithstanding,

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<v Speaker 4>and now I'm really reaching into the way back. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>we can point to a number of governors Jerry Brown,

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<v Speaker 4>Pat Brown's side not very charismatic, George Duke Magin. Maybe

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<v Speaker 4>Pete Wilson was fiery, but it's not like he brought

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<v Speaker 4>the house down and so on and so forth. So

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<v Speaker 4>this is sort of a campaign that's made for him.

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<v Speaker 4>And again particularly because it's going to be all about advertising,

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<v Speaker 4>because California is just I'm sure the candidates are doing

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<v Speaker 4>town halls and stuff, but it's not the kind of

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<v Speaker 4>It's not like a New.

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<v Speaker 5>Hampshire or Georgia or Michigan.

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<v Speaker 4>He can named some medium sized states where retail is

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<v Speaker 4>a big deal.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm waiting to see us see you and the teachers.

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<v Speaker 1>Last question, We have a new story at the Atlantic today.

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Biden really wanted to pick Gretchen Whitmer to be

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<v Speaker 1>his vice president, but Black Lives Matter made him pick

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<v Speaker 1>Kamala Harris. That's nonsense. He picked Kamala Harris. But is

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<v Speaker 1>this just the beginning of puffery for Gretchen Whitmer.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I don't know, actually, you know, look, Elin Godfrey

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<v Speaker 4>is a really good reporter, I think, and I haven't

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<v Speaker 4>read her story yet, but to me, it was very

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<v Speaker 4>intriguing because I think what is true is that Gretchen

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<v Speaker 4>witt was a much talked about heavyweight and presumed future

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<v Speaker 4>presidential candidate, and she's not approaching twenty twenty eight like

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<v Speaker 4>any of her colleagues, right, Governor Josh Shapiro in Pennsylvania,

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<v Speaker 4>Governor J. B.

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<v Speaker 5>Pritzker in Illinois.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, she's really just taken a she's kind of

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<v Speaker 4>established more of a low profile in her last term

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<v Speaker 4>here and done a you know and really spent a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of time trying to be you know, get along

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<v Speaker 4>with the White House and things like that.

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<v Speaker 5>And it's great politics in Michigan, which is a you know,

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<v Speaker 5>now a quintessential swing state.

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<v Speaker 4>But she's not doing the kinds of things that would

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<v Speaker 4>suggest she's interested in running for president.

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<v Speaker 5>So I want to read the story or a comment

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<v Speaker 5>on it. But I do think she, you know, was

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<v Speaker 5>a major and could still be a.

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<v Speaker 4>Major, rising Democratic figure, and the fact that she's not.

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<v Speaker 1>Careading little longer. We shall see.

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<v Speaker 6>I wouldn't just say that things went wrong. I also

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<v Speaker 6>think things went right.

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<v Speaker 7>We made a lot of progress, but we also made

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<v Speaker 7>very clear and I think this is part of.

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<v Speaker 6>The progress we made.

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<v Speaker 7>What the term was, where the United States could make

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<v Speaker 7>some accommodation, what terms we were flexible on, and what

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<v Speaker 7>things we absolutely needed to see in order for the

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<v Speaker 7>President of the United States to feel like he was

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<v Speaker 7>getting a good deal.

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<v Speaker 1>And morning gloriating in Great America. I'm Hugh Hewett. That

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<v Speaker 1>was Vice President Vance last night on my guest Brett

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<v Speaker 1>Bear's program, Special Report. I'll be joining Brett tonight on

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<v Speaker 1>the panel. Brett, I'm going to go to your interview

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<v Speaker 1>with the Vice President in just a moment. But first,

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<v Speaker 1>you're a Master's guy. How did you enjoy the tournament?

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<v Speaker 8>Oh?

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<v Speaker 9>It was fantastic, you know. I went down with my

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<v Speaker 9>son Wednesday and then the first round on Thursday, and

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<v Speaker 9>there's nothing like it, you know, tradition, unlike any other

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<v Speaker 9>and I thought it was fantastic. The drama and Rory

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<v Speaker 9>fighting and losing, you know, on Saturday, and then fighting back,

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<v Speaker 9>and I just thought it was a great, great tournament,

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<v Speaker 9>and I'm happy that he repeated that's a tough thing

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<v Speaker 9>to do, and he is a champion.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, more of my people are buried in Sanfield,

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<v Speaker 1>Northern Ireland and County Down than there are here in

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<v Speaker 1>the state. So I always root for Rory. But he's

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<v Speaker 1>getting up there and Shuffler was on fire. Did you

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<v Speaker 1>follow Scotty at all on the first couple of days

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<v Speaker 1>when he wasn't on fire?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, And I was surprised that he wasn't at the beginning,

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<v Speaker 9>but he always seems to be there in the end.

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<v Speaker 9>And you know, Justin Rose was there as he has been,

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<v Speaker 9>so there's a lot of people knocking on the door.

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<v Speaker 9>I played in the a tem t at Tebble Beach

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<v Speaker 9>a number of years with Russell Henley and so I

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<v Speaker 9>was kind of pulling for him and he did well,

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<v Speaker 9>finished third and he at one point had to share

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<v Speaker 9>of the lead on the back line.

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<v Speaker 1>Last golf question, Brett, I do not have a good

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<v Speaker 1>fix on Justin Rose. He falls into that period of

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<v Speaker 1>time when I'm not really paying much attention to golf.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing not this stuff and he's forty five years old,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's getting up there to be as competitive as

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<v Speaker 1>he is. Does he have a reputation on the tour

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<v Speaker 1>because he always looks so grim face? But then someone

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<v Speaker 1>on the one of the announcers said, he's one of

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<v Speaker 1>the best like guys on the tour.

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<v Speaker 9>Oh, everybody loves him. He's a huge, huge favorite down

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<v Speaker 9>there in Augussa. And if he had won, he would

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<v Speaker 9>have been a very popular champion. Uh. You know, he's

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<v Speaker 9>finished second three times twice in the playoff and now

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<v Speaker 9>you know, he was up the leaderboard this time, so

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<v Speaker 9>he's a he would be a popular champion. And he's

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<v Speaker 9>obviously won the US Open, and he's a big factor

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<v Speaker 9>in the Ryder Cup. So yeah, he still got it.

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<v Speaker 9>He would be the oldest since Jack Nicholas in eighty

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<v Speaker 9>six if he did win the mess.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you're allowed to answer this, but

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<v Speaker 1>if you are allowed to answer it, and if you

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<v Speaker 1>have played Augusta, what's the best round you've shot?

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<v Speaker 9>I have played Augusta. I've been fortunate enough to play Augusta,

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<v Speaker 9>and I believe it or not shot even par Now

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<v Speaker 9>different key box.

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<v Speaker 1>That's dude. I think we should lead with that. All right, Brett,

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<v Speaker 1>let's go to last night. I have played almost every

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<v Speaker 1>major except of your interview with the Vice President. Today

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<v Speaker 1>we get a story from Iran International that Iran Central

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<v Speaker 1>Bank has warned the economy may take twelve years to

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<v Speaker 1>rebuild after the war. They're looking at inflation of possibly

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and eighty percent unless the ports reopen really quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you get the sense that the Vice President is

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<v Speaker 1>in the catbird seat or the president.

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<v Speaker 9>I do think that the leverage is increasing, and it

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<v Speaker 9>seems like at least the administration saying that they think

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<v Speaker 9>there will be more in person talks in Islamabad in

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<v Speaker 9>coming days. Vice President couldn't put it in that down

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<v Speaker 9>in the interview last night, but between us and the

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<v Speaker 9>rest of your listeners.

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<v Speaker 10>We have.

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<v Speaker 9>Had outreach with the Iranians and we've been close to

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<v Speaker 9>get any Iranan FOM minister on the show and may

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<v Speaker 9>be able to do that tomorrow. So it seems like

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<v Speaker 9>they want to send a message as well, and whether

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<v Speaker 9>that tracks with getting back to the negotia table, we'll see.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you have had the FOI administer on before. He

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<v Speaker 1>very he's chief like in his eloquence and is a

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<v Speaker 1>terrific communicator. Do we know did you pick up in

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<v Speaker 1>prepping for interviewing with the Vice president who is really

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<v Speaker 1>running the place? I know we've got the story of

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<v Speaker 1>the five guys, but the political people don't really run

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<v Speaker 1>that place. It's the generals. Do we have any sense

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<v Speaker 1>of who the foreign minister speaks for?

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, that's one of the problems. And you heard that

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<v Speaker 9>in the Vice president's remarks that they had to go

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<v Speaker 9>back and kind of get approval. It sounds like the

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<v Speaker 9>IRGC commanders have a lot of a lot of power

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<v Speaker 9>and that the other politicals do not. But you know,

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<v Speaker 9>we'll have to see if they do a deal. They're

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<v Speaker 9>doing a deal as a country, and you know they

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<v Speaker 9>have to live up to it, which the Runians don't

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<v Speaker 9>have a great track record of.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, the Vice President said, we have to get the

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<v Speaker 1>nuclear dust. Using President Trump's term, that's a month long,

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<v Speaker 1>very careful, possibly killing the people who hit the wrong

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<v Speaker 1>stone and glass and irradiating them sort of excavation. Can

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<v Speaker 1>you imagine Brett a detailed agreement that would allow us

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<v Speaker 1>to supervise or superintend that extraction.

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<v Speaker 9>It would have to be structured, probably through the iaea,

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<v Speaker 9>and it would be very complex. In the meantime, you know,

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<v Speaker 9>the intel folks I'd talked to say, you know, as

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<v Speaker 9>the President has said publicly, they have a twenty four

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<v Speaker 9>to seven eye on the sky on where they know

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<v Speaker 9>it to be and making sure that it's not touched

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<v Speaker 9>or disrupted in the current state.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, you know as well as I do. One of

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<v Speaker 1>the greatest critiques of the JCPOA was that the inspections

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<v Speaker 1>it allowed for were not any time, anywhere, no knock

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<v Speaker 1>knock inspections. They were you had to call up and schedule,

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<v Speaker 1>and they could decline, and they put off limits large

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<v Speaker 1>military bases. Do you get the sense from the Vice

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<v Speaker 1>President that any deal with US has to be anytime, anywhere,

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<v Speaker 1>no knock inspections.

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<v Speaker 9>Yes. I think the story is about the proposals of

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<v Speaker 9>when they could enrich. The US was at twenty years

0:23:26.280 --> 0:23:29.920
<v Speaker 9>and the Iranians were at five. You know, I think

0:23:29.920 --> 0:23:34.840
<v Speaker 9>you're going to end up at fifteen or something. But

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<v Speaker 9>I think that the inspection part of it was much

0:23:37.480 --> 0:23:39.320
<v Speaker 9>more rigorous than JCPO read.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, question would be why would we even allow them

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<v Speaker 1>to enrich Brett to me, I heard that when he

0:23:45.400 --> 0:23:48.160
<v Speaker 1>said twenty twenty goes by in a hurry, it won't

0:23:48.200 --> 0:23:51.120
<v Speaker 1>be my problem. Might be your problem, but it won't

0:23:51.160 --> 0:23:53.120
<v Speaker 1>be my problem. Why twenty and not never?

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<v Speaker 9>That's a good question. You know, if Enrichmond is to

0:23:59.200 --> 0:24:02.760
<v Speaker 9>enrich to a certain point. You know, we believed them

0:24:03.560 --> 0:24:06.719
<v Speaker 9>before where they said that they were at twenty percent

0:24:08.000 --> 0:24:11.959
<v Speaker 9>or medical grade even lower. But you know, and when

0:24:12.000 --> 0:24:15.040
<v Speaker 9>they hand over a document that says nine hundred pounds

0:24:15.160 --> 0:24:20.360
<v Speaker 9>at sixty percent that could go to weapons grade nine

0:24:21.280 --> 0:24:23.800
<v Speaker 9>in a couple of weeks, that's a different animal.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. All right, I'm foreshadowing what we might be talking

0:24:27.560 --> 0:24:29.920
<v Speaker 1>about tonight, but I'll relate to you what Richard Goldberg

0:24:29.920 --> 0:24:32.760
<v Speaker 1>of FTD said in the first hour. We sent a

0:24:32.880 --> 0:24:38.399
<v Speaker 1>letter today to UAE, Dubai, Saudi Arabia, China, and a

0:24:38.400 --> 0:24:42.080
<v Speaker 1>couple other places saying we know you've got their shadow funds.

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<v Speaker 1>Either you freeze them or turn them over to us,

0:24:45.880 --> 0:24:47.840
<v Speaker 1>or we are going you're going to feel the full

0:24:47.920 --> 0:24:51.800
<v Speaker 1>fury of our banking sanctions. Have you heard about that yet?

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<v Speaker 1>And do you believe I can't believe we do that

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<v Speaker 1>to UAE, but do you think we would?

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<v Speaker 9>Now the UAE has has frozen running funds they just

0:25:00.800 --> 0:25:04.920
<v Speaker 9>did it a few days ago. So I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 9>that whether we're talking past each other on the UAE,

0:25:07.520 --> 0:25:12.080
<v Speaker 9>but I specifically know they have other countries are, I'm told,

0:25:12.160 --> 0:25:14.880
<v Speaker 9>feeling a lot of pressure on a lot of fronts

0:25:15.200 --> 0:25:20.040
<v Speaker 9>from the Trump administration, including China ahead of this trip

0:25:20.080 --> 0:25:23.399
<v Speaker 9>to China that's still on by the President going to

0:25:23.400 --> 0:25:27.439
<v Speaker 9>see President Shushi Ping. So I'll be making that trip

0:25:27.960 --> 0:25:31.879
<v Speaker 9>over to China, and you know, I think that this moment,

0:25:33.320 --> 0:25:36.520
<v Speaker 9>if you want to read in between Chinese officials, they

0:25:36.640 --> 0:25:41.439
<v Speaker 9>want to be a part of this solution negotiation, but

0:25:41.560 --> 0:25:44.400
<v Speaker 9>they are not stepping up on the straightfoar moves as

0:25:44.400 --> 0:25:47.920
<v Speaker 9>of yet, or to your point, other assets.

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<v Speaker 1>When is there so much scheduled for Brett Bear is.

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<v Speaker 9>Fourteen to fifteen stuff like that?

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, do you think you think Jimmy lylell be

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<v Speaker 1>on the plane when you come back.

0:26:02.760 --> 0:26:06.200
<v Speaker 9>That would be a big deal if he was. But listen,

0:26:06.280 --> 0:26:08.720
<v Speaker 9>there's going to be something baked in the cake. They're

0:26:08.720 --> 0:26:10.640
<v Speaker 9>not going to go over there without deliverables.

0:26:11.040 --> 0:26:13.680
<v Speaker 1>That's what That's why I'm hoping it's Jimmy Lake as

0:26:13.720 --> 0:26:17.840
<v Speaker 1>that would be. It's a low cost give by Jijinping

0:26:17.960 --> 0:26:21.159
<v Speaker 1>it's a big win for the president and given the

0:26:22.320 --> 0:26:26.800
<v Speaker 1>Pope Leo the fourteenth back and forth, kind of a

0:26:26.840 --> 0:26:30.040
<v Speaker 1>double win. Brett Baer, I'm not sure you could be from.

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<v Speaker 9>A former altar boy, there could be some detante coming

0:26:33.000 --> 0:26:36.159
<v Speaker 9>on the Catholic front. I think that might be wise

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<v Speaker 9>after the last two days.

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<v Speaker 1>That's two of us, and we agree. Brett Barrell, see

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<v Speaker 1>you later tonight on Special Report, Welcome Back to America.

0:26:43.520 --> 0:26:46.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm Hugh Hewett. On this April fourteenth. I'm pleased to

0:26:47.000 --> 0:26:51.359
<v Speaker 1>welcome Bethany Mandel back to the program. Bethany. About an

0:26:51.480 --> 0:26:55.119
<v Speaker 1>hour before the program today, I pre taped a thirty

0:26:55.160 --> 0:26:58.440
<v Speaker 1>minute interview for next week with Rachel Goldberg Paulin about

0:26:58.440 --> 0:27:01.720
<v Speaker 1>her book When We See You Again. Have you read

0:27:01.720 --> 0:27:02.160
<v Speaker 1>it yet?

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<v Speaker 11>I have not, but I talked to her, to John,

0:27:07.480 --> 0:27:10.760
<v Speaker 11>Rachel's husband, I've talked to their family about the book.

0:27:11.680 --> 0:27:16.720
<v Speaker 1>It's gut wrenching and it's not a book about grief.

0:27:16.800 --> 0:27:21.200
<v Speaker 1>It is grief in pages. It's really a remarkable story.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think people will be willing to read it?

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<v Speaker 6>So?

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<v Speaker 11>The testimony of Elie Sharabi, his accounts of being held

0:27:32.000 --> 0:27:34.840
<v Speaker 11>hostage and coming out of the tunnels of Gaza after

0:27:34.920 --> 0:27:37.159
<v Speaker 11>being held for over a year to discover that his

0:27:37.200 --> 0:27:40.879
<v Speaker 11>wife and two children were murdered. That book was a bestseller.

0:27:42.200 --> 0:27:45.320
<v Speaker 11>What's special about Rachel Goldberg Poland is that she has

0:27:45.359 --> 0:27:48.720
<v Speaker 11>this American experience because her and John were born and

0:27:48.800 --> 0:27:51.080
<v Speaker 11>raised here and they moved to Israel as adults, and

0:27:51.160 --> 0:27:54.160
<v Speaker 11>so she has a way with words in English, it's

0:27:54.160 --> 0:28:00.639
<v Speaker 11>her native language. She's such a compelling human and so activating.

0:28:00.960 --> 0:28:02.919
<v Speaker 11>I'm looking forward to reading it, and I think anyone

0:28:03.000 --> 0:28:05.080
<v Speaker 11>who's seen her, which is now you know, tens of

0:28:05.160 --> 0:28:08.560
<v Speaker 11>hundreds of millions of people have as well. Her story

0:28:08.600 --> 0:28:12.000
<v Speaker 11>is incredible and her her strength is incredible. I was

0:28:12.000 --> 0:28:14.680
<v Speaker 11>wearing a T shirt the other day that they made

0:28:14.680 --> 0:28:17.520
<v Speaker 11>while hers she was being held captive. Hope is mandatory,

0:28:18.080 --> 0:28:20.639
<v Speaker 11>and that's that's the perspective that she held through that

0:28:20.920 --> 0:28:23.760
<v Speaker 11>entire you know, almost a year of her husband being

0:28:23.840 --> 0:28:26.359
<v Speaker 11>or i'm sorry, her son being held captive before he

0:28:26.440 --> 0:28:28.719
<v Speaker 11>was murdered by Hamas and the tunnels under Rafa.

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<v Speaker 1>I had no idea. I kind of no knew because

0:28:32.280 --> 0:28:34.680
<v Speaker 1>I interviewed Rachel a couple of times that they're very

0:28:34.720 --> 0:28:41.360
<v Speaker 1>deeply religious. But I didn't understand how interwoven her faith

0:28:41.440 --> 0:28:44.560
<v Speaker 1>life is with this suffering period. I mean, we've got

0:28:45.040 --> 0:28:50.240
<v Speaker 1>job Jacob, Isaac and Moses in this speaking directly to Rachel,

0:28:50.400 --> 0:28:51.520
<v Speaker 1>Did you know that about her?

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<v Speaker 12>I did.

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<v Speaker 11>She would talk a lot about, you know, starting the

0:28:55.920 --> 0:28:59.720
<v Speaker 11>day reading Psalms, and you know, every for every day

0:28:59.720 --> 0:29:03.080
<v Speaker 11>that he was held hostage, she would read the corresponding Psalm.

0:29:03.160 --> 0:29:04.960
<v Speaker 11>And so if it was day thirty three that he

0:29:05.040 --> 0:29:08.320
<v Speaker 11>was being held hostage, she would read Psalm thirty three.

0:29:09.280 --> 0:29:11.440
<v Speaker 11>So this sort of carried her through in their life.

0:29:11.520 --> 0:29:12.440
<v Speaker 3>Before the war.

0:29:12.320 --> 0:29:16.320
<v Speaker 11>Started, she was working at a Jewish learning organization in Jerusalem,

0:29:16.400 --> 0:29:18.440
<v Speaker 11>and so this was always such a huge part of

0:29:18.440 --> 0:29:20.120
<v Speaker 11>their lives, and it's why they decided to move to

0:29:20.160 --> 0:29:22.280
<v Speaker 11>Israel in the first place, when Hirsh was still a

0:29:22.280 --> 0:29:26.880
<v Speaker 11>young kid. So I knew that this was a pretty

0:29:26.880 --> 0:29:28.240
<v Speaker 11>big thing in their lives.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the book is divided into the before and the after,

0:29:33.600 --> 0:29:37.040
<v Speaker 1>the day that separates them being October seventh. I can't

0:29:37.080 --> 0:29:39.520
<v Speaker 1>recommend it enough people how to go out and buy

0:29:39.560 --> 0:29:42.200
<v Speaker 1>it in advance, but it reminded me to ask you

0:29:44.000 --> 0:29:46.800
<v Speaker 1>when you go to Temple. I didn't know this until

0:29:46.800 --> 0:29:49.520
<v Speaker 1>I read the book. The Boys and the girls sit

0:29:49.560 --> 0:29:52.520
<v Speaker 1>on different side with their mothers and their fathers, and

0:29:52.560 --> 0:29:55.160
<v Speaker 1>there's a part of the service where the father puts

0:29:55.200 --> 0:29:58.960
<v Speaker 1>their prayer shawl over their boy. Are you familiar with that?

0:29:59.120 --> 0:30:05.160
<v Speaker 11>Yeah? Yeah, it's when the Kohenes, the descendants of the

0:30:05.160 --> 0:30:09.560
<v Speaker 11>priestly class, they're called up for a special ceremony. We

0:30:09.600 --> 0:30:11.520
<v Speaker 11>actually had a lot of that happen over the holiday

0:30:11.520 --> 0:30:14.600
<v Speaker 11>of Passover this year, and my kids guilted their dad

0:30:14.640 --> 0:30:17.920
<v Speaker 11>into coming to Santagogue because he does that with them.

0:30:18.720 --> 0:30:21.640
<v Speaker 11>And one of those special things that they say about

0:30:21.760 --> 0:30:25.280
<v Speaker 11>Hirsh was that even though he wasn't religious anymore, he

0:30:25.440 --> 0:30:28.360
<v Speaker 11>still went to temple with his dad almost every single

0:30:28.400 --> 0:30:30.520
<v Speaker 11>week because he didn't want him to sit alone because

0:30:30.600 --> 0:30:33.360
<v Speaker 11>they were the only two men in their immediate family.

0:30:33.800 --> 0:30:38.600
<v Speaker 1>That's in the book, and John's afterward is particularly moving.

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<v Speaker 1>I just can't recommend this enough, which brings me to

0:30:41.360 --> 0:30:43.920
<v Speaker 1>my bigger question. You know, we're in the middle of

0:30:43.960 --> 0:30:46.760
<v Speaker 1>a war with Iran. Iran is responsible for ten to

0:30:46.800 --> 0:30:51.760
<v Speaker 1>seven I don't feel bad for any IRGC member who

0:30:51.760 --> 0:30:56.720
<v Speaker 1>gets blown up, but what percentage? Unlike Gaza, which I

0:30:56.760 --> 0:31:00.000
<v Speaker 1>think is deeply poisoned in the people, I don't think

0:31:00.120 --> 0:31:01.800
<v Speaker 1>the Iranian people are that way, do you.

0:31:03.160 --> 0:31:06.680
<v Speaker 11>I don't know everything that we've heard before the war,

0:31:06.880 --> 0:31:10.120
<v Speaker 11>and I think one of the most striking stories that

0:31:10.160 --> 0:31:12.880
<v Speaker 11>we've heard, you know, because we've had basically radio silence

0:31:12.880 --> 0:31:16.400
<v Speaker 11>from Iran since the war started, but when we lost

0:31:16.440 --> 0:31:19.760
<v Speaker 11>our airmen for you know, close to forty eight hours,

0:31:20.080 --> 0:31:22.360
<v Speaker 11>one of the most striking things was the Iranian people

0:31:22.680 --> 0:31:25.840
<v Speaker 11>went drove on that road that separated Tehran in that

0:31:25.880 --> 0:31:28.240
<v Speaker 11>region and parked their cars to try to prevent the

0:31:28.320 --> 0:31:32.680
<v Speaker 11>regime from from accessing those those areas to give the

0:31:32.720 --> 0:31:36.200
<v Speaker 11>Americans time to come in and AFT airlift our guy out.

0:31:36.920 --> 0:31:39.160
<v Speaker 11>So I think that really speaks volumes to you know,

0:31:39.400 --> 0:31:41.880
<v Speaker 11>the sentiment in Iran about their regime and about what

0:31:41.920 --> 0:31:42.680
<v Speaker 11>we're doing there.

0:31:43.160 --> 0:31:47.040
<v Speaker 1>So does that come through to you in legacy media

0:31:47.120 --> 0:31:50.000
<v Speaker 1>coverage of this war, which seems to me sometimes to

0:31:50.160 --> 0:31:52.280
<v Speaker 1>verge on rooting for Iran.

0:31:54.280 --> 0:31:57.280
<v Speaker 11>No, it's absolutely not, And it's it's interesting. Someone sent

0:31:57.320 --> 0:32:02.840
<v Speaker 11>me a clip from Norwegian television earlier today. He's as

0:32:03.440 --> 0:32:05.600
<v Speaker 11>his son is a classmate of my daughters in an

0:32:05.600 --> 0:32:07.560
<v Speaker 11>online Jewish school, and so he sent me a clip

0:32:07.600 --> 0:32:10.400
<v Speaker 11>of something that had just played on television and they

0:32:10.400 --> 0:32:13.720
<v Speaker 11>were really amping up even in Norway in their mainstream media,

0:32:14.080 --> 0:32:17.440
<v Speaker 11>this idea that the that the Iranian people are under

0:32:17.440 --> 0:32:21.280
<v Speaker 11>siege just as much as the regime is, and trying

0:32:21.280 --> 0:32:23.440
<v Speaker 11>to play that sympathy card in the same way, in

0:32:23.440 --> 0:32:25.800
<v Speaker 11>a way that I found to be very disingenuous. So

0:32:26.000 --> 0:32:27.840
<v Speaker 11>perhaps we should take comfort in the fact that it's

0:32:27.880 --> 0:32:30.040
<v Speaker 11>not just our mainstream media that's lying to us, it's

0:32:30.080 --> 0:32:31.520
<v Speaker 11>you know, it's a worldwide problem.

0:32:31.880 --> 0:32:34.680
<v Speaker 1>Well, I have her. This is third hand hearsay that

0:32:34.960 --> 0:32:37.600
<v Speaker 1>Iranians are happy that the bombs were falling in and

0:32:37.640 --> 0:32:41.400
<v Speaker 1>disappointed that they stopped. Is that consistent with their understanding?

0:32:42.640 --> 0:32:45.560
<v Speaker 11>That's what I've anecdotally heard as well. But again it's

0:32:45.600 --> 0:32:47.400
<v Speaker 11>the same sort of third hand, but I'm hearing that

0:32:47.440 --> 0:32:47.800
<v Speaker 11>as well.

0:32:48.000 --> 0:32:50.200
<v Speaker 1>All right, now, I want to switch back to northern

0:32:50.440 --> 0:32:55.200
<v Speaker 1>Israel and the Galilee. Do you think people feel safe

0:32:55.280 --> 0:32:57.840
<v Speaker 1>enough to remove themselves or to move back there? Yet?

0:32:59.280 --> 0:33:03.120
<v Speaker 11>Not at all, And it's a significant portion of the

0:33:03.160 --> 0:33:06.280
<v Speaker 11>country's that lives up there. I wonder how many of

0:33:06.280 --> 0:33:08.720
<v Speaker 11>those people will end up returning at all, because you know,

0:33:08.800 --> 0:33:12.000
<v Speaker 11>since October seventh, that area has been under siege more

0:33:12.000 --> 0:33:15.280
<v Speaker 11>than most and so you know, I think there's a

0:33:15.280 --> 0:33:17.600
<v Speaker 11>lot of likelihood that the people who had lives up

0:33:17.600 --> 0:33:19.800
<v Speaker 11>there have since moved on, who have since decided to

0:33:19.880 --> 0:33:22.440
<v Speaker 11>live in you know, Jerusalem or modi en or bait

0:33:22.520 --> 0:33:24.920
<v Speaker 11>schemesher and just sort of pick up their lives and

0:33:24.960 --> 0:33:29.120
<v Speaker 11>permanently come to this understanding that you know, their homes

0:33:29.160 --> 0:33:30.800
<v Speaker 11>might not be you know, salvageable.

0:33:31.520 --> 0:33:34.040
<v Speaker 1>Are you at all optimistic about these talks at the

0:33:34.080 --> 0:33:37.040
<v Speaker 1>State Department? They've never been held before. Lebanon has never

0:33:37.120 --> 0:33:40.120
<v Speaker 1>sat down in an official capacity with Israel. It's happening

0:33:40.120 --> 0:33:42.120
<v Speaker 1>today with Marco Rubio at the head of the table.

0:33:42.640 --> 0:33:44.160
<v Speaker 1>I think it's a big deal, do.

0:33:44.200 --> 0:33:47.440
<v Speaker 11>You I do think it's a big deal. I mean

0:33:47.680 --> 0:33:51.120
<v Speaker 11>I never I never underestimate the negotiating power of the

0:33:51.160 --> 0:33:54.280
<v Speaker 11>Trump administration, whether it be Witkoff or Jared Kushner or

0:33:54.280 --> 0:33:58.480
<v Speaker 11>Marco Rubio. They are incredibly skilled at, you know, cutting

0:33:58.520 --> 0:34:02.960
<v Speaker 11>through the nonsense and and getting agreements made and you know,

0:34:03.200 --> 0:34:05.560
<v Speaker 11>getting people to understand what's in their best interest. And so,

0:34:06.080 --> 0:34:08.399
<v Speaker 11>you know, I'm interested to see how this goes. I'm

0:34:08.400 --> 0:34:10.040
<v Speaker 11>definitely not pessimistic about it.

0:34:10.480 --> 0:34:13.080
<v Speaker 1>And have you picked up any kind of hint about

0:34:13.120 --> 0:34:16.759
<v Speaker 1>what the operation is that Israel pulled off three days

0:34:16.760 --> 0:34:19.360
<v Speaker 1>ago that Hammered has bela like the beepers.

0:34:21.000 --> 0:34:24.160
<v Speaker 11>I haven't, no, no, it's been pretty tight lipped.

0:34:25.680 --> 0:34:28.920
<v Speaker 1>Isn't that frustrating? They usually tell us when they do

0:34:28.960 --> 0:34:32.600
<v Speaker 1>a Superman kind of thing, and now I'm addicted to it.

0:34:33.800 --> 0:34:36.440
<v Speaker 11>I know the Israelis are very good at their spycraft.

0:34:36.480 --> 0:34:38.760
<v Speaker 11>I have to say they don't They keep a secret

0:34:38.760 --> 0:34:39.640
<v Speaker 11>pretty well over there.

0:34:40.000 --> 0:34:42.400
<v Speaker 1>Well, if you hear let me know. Come back a

0:34:42.440 --> 0:34:46.680
<v Speaker 1>second time once again, though, for the audience, when we

0:34:46.760 --> 0:34:50.040
<v Speaker 1>see you again, by Rachel Goldberg Pollen. It's available on

0:34:50.120 --> 0:34:52.239
<v Speaker 1>Amazon for pre order. It comes out in a week.

0:34:52.280 --> 0:34:54.800
<v Speaker 1>I will play you the interview in a week, and Bethany,

0:34:54.880 --> 0:34:56.719
<v Speaker 1>I look forward to talking with you about the book

0:34:56.760 --> 0:34:58.520
<v Speaker 1>after you've had a chance to read it. Don't go

0:34:58.560 --> 0:35:02.160
<v Speaker 1>anywhere in Maracaby right, lots more coming up, got a

0:35:02.239 --> 0:35:05.439
<v Speaker 1>lot of good clips for you, and Texas Senator John

0:35:05.480 --> 0:35:07.640
<v Speaker 1>Cornyn is coming up too. Right here on the kew

0:35:07.719 --> 0:35:14.720
<v Speaker 1>Hewitt Show. Welcome back, America. I'm Hugh Hewitt, so please

0:35:14.760 --> 0:35:17.520
<v Speaker 1>to welcome United States Senator John Cornyn from the great

0:35:17.520 --> 0:35:19.640
<v Speaker 1>state of Texas. Senator Corny, good to see you. How

0:35:19.680 --> 0:35:19.920
<v Speaker 1>are you?

0:35:21.360 --> 0:35:24.560
<v Speaker 6>Thank you you good, good, Thank you, Senator.

0:35:24.600 --> 0:35:26.200
<v Speaker 1>You've got an election coming up, and I want to

0:35:26.280 --> 0:35:29.280
<v Speaker 1>let the audience know I will be inviting Attorney General

0:35:29.320 --> 0:35:31.799
<v Speaker 1>Ken Paxson on the show. But if he says yes,

0:35:32.000 --> 0:35:34.439
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to talk to him about his impeachment, about

0:35:34.480 --> 0:35:37.760
<v Speaker 1>the fraud charges, about his divorce, about the mont Bloc

0:35:37.800 --> 0:35:40.719
<v Speaker 1>pen that he has allegedly stolen. We'll talk about it

0:35:40.800 --> 0:35:43.160
<v Speaker 1>all because I think he's going to lose that Senate

0:35:43.239 --> 0:35:44.759
<v Speaker 1>seat if he beats you. But I don't think he's

0:35:44.760 --> 0:35:47.160
<v Speaker 1>going to beat you. Well, Now tell me why you

0:35:47.239 --> 0:35:48.160
<v Speaker 1>think you're going to win.

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<v Speaker 10>Well, First of all, I don't think he'll accept your invitation.

0:35:53.160 --> 0:35:58.359
<v Speaker 10>He's basically dodged every opportunity to answer hard questions, and

0:35:58.880 --> 0:36:02.200
<v Speaker 10>I don't expect him to aren't now, But I do

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<v Speaker 10>expect to win.

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<v Speaker 6>I think.

0:36:06.040 --> 0:36:09.800
<v Speaker 10>Obviously I'm strong on border security, endorsed by the National

0:36:09.840 --> 0:36:14.719
<v Speaker 10>Border Patrol Council, which endorsed President Trump and has been

0:36:14.760 --> 0:36:20.000
<v Speaker 10>there during the disastrous riding open border policies, but now

0:36:20.040 --> 0:36:24.960
<v Speaker 10>it's steadfastly supporting border security. I've supported the President, as

0:36:25.000 --> 0:36:27.640
<v Speaker 10>you know, ninety nine point three percent of the time.

0:36:28.080 --> 0:36:31.560
<v Speaker 10>So the problem is Paxson has got so much baggage,

0:36:32.000 --> 0:36:34.680
<v Speaker 10>and for people who are interested in learning more about it,

0:36:34.920 --> 0:36:39.040
<v Speaker 10>there's a website called crookedkin dot com which details all

0:36:39.080 --> 0:36:40.839
<v Speaker 10>of the sorts of things that I'm sure you would

0:36:40.840 --> 0:36:43.480
<v Speaker 10>ask him about if he were to accept your invitation.

0:36:44.200 --> 0:36:47.600
<v Speaker 10>But I think Texas deserves good representation in the United

0:36:47.640 --> 0:36:52.120
<v Speaker 10>States Senate, all thirty two million of us. And I

0:36:52.160 --> 0:36:55.040
<v Speaker 10>love my job and it's important work, and I have

0:36:55.200 --> 0:36:59.640
<v Speaker 10>been privileged to do this for some time now, and

0:37:00.360 --> 0:37:02.240
<v Speaker 10>hopefully they'll give me a chance to do it again.

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<v Speaker 1>I like t remind people it's pretty tough to find

0:37:04.920 --> 0:37:08.000
<v Speaker 1>a former state Supreme Court justice is also a senator.

0:37:08.200 --> 0:37:10.520
<v Speaker 1>The only trouble is there aren't any scandals at all

0:37:10.560 --> 0:37:13.040
<v Speaker 1>to talk about with you, Senator Corny, and you've led

0:37:13.080 --> 0:37:16.080
<v Speaker 1>this kind of square life, so we got nothing to

0:37:16.160 --> 0:37:18.680
<v Speaker 1>ask you a hard question about. But I do want

0:37:18.680 --> 0:37:22.320
<v Speaker 1>to ask you about the reconciliation. I just played Leader

0:37:22.400 --> 0:37:26.800
<v Speaker 1>Thoon saying you're going to do reconciliation for DHS. President

0:37:26.880 --> 0:37:30.560
<v Speaker 1>dropped a budget of one point five trillion dollars for defense.

0:37:31.080 --> 0:37:34.160
<v Speaker 1>I guess the Pentagon wants a two hundred billion dollars supplemental.

0:37:34.600 --> 0:37:37.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm told by the people in and around the shipbuilding

0:37:37.800 --> 0:37:41.480
<v Speaker 1>budget that their orders for every shipyard in America in

0:37:41.520 --> 0:37:44.040
<v Speaker 1>that budget. I think Texas has got a dozen or

0:37:44.040 --> 0:37:47.240
<v Speaker 1>two dozen of them down there. How much defense spending

0:37:47.320 --> 0:37:50.000
<v Speaker 1>is going to get into the reconciliation process?

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<v Speaker 10>Well, I would support whatever the President asked for because

0:37:55.719 --> 0:37:57.440
<v Speaker 10>I think we have a lot of catching up to do.

0:37:58.560 --> 0:38:01.040
<v Speaker 10>What's so amazing is you we've seen the nature of

0:38:01.080 --> 0:38:06.640
<v Speaker 10>warfare change in Ukraine and now in Iran and the

0:38:06.760 --> 0:38:09.880
<v Speaker 10>straight up war moves, and we just simply need to

0:38:09.880 --> 0:38:13.239
<v Speaker 10>catch up. At our defense industrial basis is way too

0:38:13.280 --> 0:38:18.120
<v Speaker 10>bureaucratic and ossified, and this is dangerous for us. So

0:38:18.800 --> 0:38:22.480
<v Speaker 10>I'll support the President's request, and if it's a one

0:38:22.480 --> 0:38:25.440
<v Speaker 10>and a half trillion dollars, I'll support that. But we

0:38:25.560 --> 0:38:28.560
<v Speaker 10>need to shake off all this terrible bureaucracy. I think

0:38:29.120 --> 0:38:31.960
<v Speaker 10>Secretary of Hegseth and the Department of War are trying

0:38:32.000 --> 0:38:34.439
<v Speaker 10>to do the right thing, but we still have way

0:38:34.480 --> 0:38:39.320
<v Speaker 10>too many bureaucrats operating in the procurement process in the Pentagon,

0:38:39.680 --> 0:38:43.680
<v Speaker 10>which slow things down, may make them unaffordable, and are

0:38:44.200 --> 0:38:46.760
<v Speaker 10>basically exposing us to great danger.

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<v Speaker 1>Senaer Krian, you have the most valuable currency in the

0:38:50.160 --> 0:38:54.600
<v Speaker 1>United States Senate seniority. Do the voters at Texas realize

0:38:54.800 --> 0:38:58.600
<v Speaker 1>that if they trade you out for a tall Rico,

0:38:58.840 --> 0:39:02.960
<v Speaker 1>god Forbid or Attorney General Paxton, he'll be number one

0:39:03.000 --> 0:39:05.239
<v Speaker 1>hundred out of one hundred that they lose all the

0:39:05.280 --> 0:39:07.759
<v Speaker 1>advantages of that seniority. Is that an argument you can

0:39:07.800 --> 0:39:08.920
<v Speaker 1>make the voters.

0:39:10.800 --> 0:39:13.280
<v Speaker 10>Well, if you do learn a few things the longer

0:39:13.360 --> 0:39:16.359
<v Speaker 10>you're here, and I've been this is not a place

0:39:16.440 --> 0:39:18.680
<v Speaker 10>where you can walk into on day one and make

0:39:18.719 --> 0:39:22.440
<v Speaker 10>a difference. But for example, when the governor wanted Texas

0:39:22.440 --> 0:39:26.760
<v Speaker 10>to be reimbursed eleven billion dollars for tact what Texas

0:39:26.800 --> 0:39:30.560
<v Speaker 10>taxpayers paid to secure the border during the Biden administration's

0:39:30.600 --> 0:39:34.480
<v Speaker 10>open border policies, he called me, and I worked with

0:39:34.560 --> 0:39:37.680
<v Speaker 10>all of the Texas delegation and the Speaker and the

0:39:37.719 --> 0:39:40.279
<v Speaker 10>Majority leader, and we got that done and we'll be

0:39:40.840 --> 0:39:44.560
<v Speaker 10>presenting that check to the governor the President will sometime

0:39:44.600 --> 0:39:47.759
<v Speaker 10>in the near future. So I think it's easy to

0:39:47.800 --> 0:39:53.040
<v Speaker 10>take that sort of effectiveness for granted. But look, I

0:39:53.080 --> 0:39:56.759
<v Speaker 10>think the contrast between Tallo Rico and me will be

0:39:57.200 --> 0:39:58.120
<v Speaker 10>apparent to all.

0:39:58.680 --> 0:40:02.000
<v Speaker 1>Tallar Rico is a He's a wolf in.

0:40:01.960 --> 0:40:04.640
<v Speaker 10>Sheep's clothing that the press kind of likes him a

0:40:04.680 --> 0:40:07.400
<v Speaker 10>little bit because he's different because he claims to be

0:40:07.440 --> 0:40:10.960
<v Speaker 10>a seminarian. Maybe he is, but he's reading a different

0:40:11.040 --> 0:40:14.759
<v Speaker 10>Bible than I am, claiming God is not binarya there's

0:40:14.800 --> 0:40:19.000
<v Speaker 10>six genders, and that the Bible approves of abortion. So

0:40:19.040 --> 0:40:22.720
<v Speaker 10>he's just a classic liberal or progressive in the image

0:40:22.719 --> 0:40:27.600
<v Speaker 10>of Bernie Sanders and AOC and will expose him as such.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a woke wolf, and I don't like wolves to

0:40:31.480 --> 0:40:33.600
<v Speaker 1>begin with, but I don't like woke wolves, which brings

0:40:33.600 --> 0:40:39.719
<v Speaker 1>me back to Ken Paxton. You won the primary, Senator,

0:40:39.880 --> 0:40:43.359
<v Speaker 1>and I haven't seen polling since then. But are all

0:40:43.400 --> 0:40:46.680
<v Speaker 1>your colleagues going down to Texas's time for you? Because

0:40:46.719 --> 0:40:51.560
<v Speaker 1>we really cannot afford to pour billions of dollars into Texas.

0:40:51.680 --> 0:40:54.799
<v Speaker 1>You're a layup. You like the cavaliers against the raptors

0:40:55.320 --> 0:40:59.479
<v Speaker 1>we need. Are they working for you? Well?

0:40:59.560 --> 0:41:04.680
<v Speaker 10>Senatorsune and Senator Scott had been terrific and I've appreciated

0:41:04.719 --> 0:41:09.000
<v Speaker 10>their support. They recognize what Senator Thune calls the business

0:41:09.040 --> 0:41:13.040
<v Speaker 10>case for my candidacy because it'll be a whole lot

0:41:13.120 --> 0:41:16.440
<v Speaker 10>cheaper because Democrats won't pour in hundreds of millions of

0:41:16.480 --> 0:41:19.600
<v Speaker 10>dollars into Texas to try to elect to Tallerico if

0:41:19.640 --> 0:41:22.960
<v Speaker 10>I'm the nominee, because that will be a long shot,

0:41:23.200 --> 0:41:27.960
<v Speaker 10>to be sure. So I'm very happy with the support

0:41:28.000 --> 0:41:31.520
<v Speaker 10>I've gotten from our leadership, but more importantly, as you

0:41:31.560 --> 0:41:34.160
<v Speaker 10>point out, I'm more happy with the support I got

0:41:34.239 --> 0:41:38.200
<v Speaker 10>from Republican primary voters coming out first out of three

0:41:38.800 --> 0:41:42.120
<v Speaker 10>on March third. And so now we need to finish

0:41:42.120 --> 0:41:44.520
<v Speaker 10>the job for encouraging people to get out and vote

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<v Speaker 10>in early voting from May the eighteenth through the twenty second,

0:41:47.960 --> 0:41:51.080
<v Speaker 10>and then on election day runoff day, May the twenty

0:41:51.160 --> 0:41:55.400
<v Speaker 10>six And of course the people who show up are

0:41:55.440 --> 0:41:57.919
<v Speaker 10>the ones whose voice and whose vote count.

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<v Speaker 1>Last minute center from May eighteenth to twenty second early

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<v Speaker 1>voting is that by absentee or is it in person?

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<v Speaker 10>In person? In person, We'll still have you can still

0:42:09.440 --> 0:42:11.960
<v Speaker 10>vote by mail if you meet the qualifications.

0:42:11.960 --> 0:42:12.640
<v Speaker 12>But we have the.

0:42:12.520 --> 0:42:16.319
<v Speaker 10>Most generous voting opportunities in Texas of any state that

0:42:16.360 --> 0:42:18.960
<v Speaker 10>I'm aware of. So you can show up in person

0:42:19.040 --> 0:42:22.080
<v Speaker 10>for virtually the whole week before the election, or you

0:42:22.080 --> 0:42:25.440
<v Speaker 10>can come in the day after Memorial Day, May the

0:42:25.440 --> 0:42:29.560
<v Speaker 10>twenty sixth, But it's really important to have a good turnout.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. I really have come to believe.

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<v Speaker 10>That the reason we get such extremes in our November

0:42:36.160 --> 0:42:39.879
<v Speaker 10>general elections is because there's such poor turnout and participation

0:42:40.480 --> 0:42:43.720
<v Speaker 10>in the primaries. We had eleven percent of registered voters

0:42:43.800 --> 0:42:46.759
<v Speaker 10>voting the Republican primary and maybe even less than what.

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<v Speaker 1>Off We got to get people out, and we're on

0:42:49.400 --> 0:42:52.520
<v Speaker 1>in SEMNY stations in Texas. Hear me, get on vote

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<v Speaker 1>for John Cornyn. And when General Paxson shows up, I'll

0:42:55.840 --> 0:42:58.319
<v Speaker 1>be sure to play in a few times. Willing to

0:42:58.360 --> 0:43:01.000
<v Speaker 1>have on, very willing to have one. I know the

0:43:01.000 --> 0:43:03.759
<v Speaker 1>equal time rules, just don't I hadn't want to come yet.

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<v Speaker 1>Stay tuned, America. Thank you for listening today, Joined by

0:43:07.280 --> 0:43:12.040
<v Speaker 1>the editor in chief of National Review, longtime friend Rich Lowry. Rich,

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<v Speaker 1>I have been listening with a bit of dismay to

0:43:15.520 --> 0:43:18.799
<v Speaker 1>the editors over the last few weeks. Why do you

0:43:18.920 --> 0:43:22.880
<v Speaker 1>think that dismay exist?

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<v Speaker 8>I'm sure here you think some of us have been

0:43:25.760 --> 0:43:29.200
<v Speaker 8>too negative, including perhaps Here's truly.

0:43:29.640 --> 0:43:34.640
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I want Noah on every show. I wouldn't know

0:43:34.640 --> 0:43:36.759
<v Speaker 1>what to have four times as much time, and I

0:43:36.800 --> 0:43:39.240
<v Speaker 1>want him to be on every show. So I thought

0:43:39.320 --> 0:43:42.239
<v Speaker 1>we would just start by being fair to each other.

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<v Speaker 1>What would you put down as the conditions under which

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<v Speaker 1>you would proclaim Operation Epic Fury to be an unqualified success.

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<v Speaker 8>Unqualified would be the fall of the regime, assuming you

0:43:56.760 --> 0:43:59.120
<v Speaker 8>don't get some sort of disaster where you have a

0:43:59.160 --> 0:44:02.320
<v Speaker 8>hoopy like urgency threatening the straight or four moves in

0:44:02.960 --> 0:44:06.520
<v Speaker 8>a different way. But that would be the victory you'd

0:44:06.600 --> 0:44:08.920
<v Speaker 8>ultimately be hoping for. I don't discount you that that

0:44:08.960 --> 0:44:11.680
<v Speaker 8>could happen. I doubt it's happening on a schedule highly

0:44:11.760 --> 0:44:13.640
<v Speaker 8>convenient to us. That's usually just not the world.

0:44:13.760 --> 0:44:14.239
<v Speaker 6>The way the.

0:44:14.160 --> 0:44:16.400
<v Speaker 8>World works in this regime has survived a lot to

0:44:16.440 --> 0:44:19.160
<v Speaker 8>this point, but six months from now, twelve months from now,

0:44:19.200 --> 0:44:21.640
<v Speaker 8>I don't totally discount it. Short of that, I think

0:44:21.640 --> 0:44:26.400
<v Speaker 8>if you get the highly rich uranium, that's a huge deal.

0:44:27.239 --> 0:44:29.440
<v Speaker 8>Short of that, I think getting them just to reopen

0:44:29.480 --> 0:44:32.440
<v Speaker 8>the Strait and getting some sort of a deal to

0:44:32.560 --> 0:44:36.040
<v Speaker 8>limit their nuclear program at the same time you've eliminated

0:44:36.040 --> 0:44:38.400
<v Speaker 8>so much of the missile capacity and you kind of

0:44:38.440 --> 0:44:41.640
<v Speaker 8>wreck their economy, that would be a success as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay for me, the minimum a minimum is that the

0:44:45.280 --> 0:44:48.520
<v Speaker 1>Strait has to reopen and until the straight treopen. We

0:44:48.520 --> 0:44:51.320
<v Speaker 1>have one and I gathered twenty ships went through today.

0:44:51.680 --> 0:44:55.440
<v Speaker 1>By reopened, I mean the average one and twenty ships

0:44:55.480 --> 0:44:57.920
<v Speaker 1>a day that we were before the war. That's the

0:44:58.000 --> 0:45:02.160
<v Speaker 1>minimum baseline because we've wrecked there. But a real win,

0:45:02.920 --> 0:45:06.040
<v Speaker 1>they have to give us the highly enriched uranium and

0:45:06.080 --> 0:45:11.600
<v Speaker 1>they have to agree to an inspection regime significantly stronger

0:45:11.640 --> 0:45:15.080
<v Speaker 1>than the one that the JCPOA had. To me, that's

0:45:15.120 --> 0:45:19.480
<v Speaker 1>an almost perfect win. The perfect win. Regime change I

0:45:19.480 --> 0:45:21.719
<v Speaker 1>can't hope for. I don't think it's realistic. That's up

0:45:21.719 --> 0:45:24.680
<v Speaker 1>to the people of Iran. They've just murdered thirty five

0:45:24.719 --> 0:45:26.840
<v Speaker 1>thousand of them. I don't know that I'd be willing

0:45:26.880 --> 0:45:28.640
<v Speaker 1>to go march in the streets or have my kids

0:45:28.680 --> 0:45:32.000
<v Speaker 1>go do that. But what if we got to we

0:45:32.120 --> 0:45:35.759
<v Speaker 1>got the uranium, there are economies a wreck and they've

0:45:35.800 --> 0:45:39.520
<v Speaker 1>agreed to inspections. Isn't that like the best foreign policy

0:45:39.560 --> 0:45:41.560
<v Speaker 1>win United States is hadding thirty years.

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<v Speaker 8>Yes, So to be clear, what I signed up for

0:45:45.200 --> 0:45:47.680
<v Speaker 8>at the outside of this war A skeptical of regime

0:45:47.760 --> 0:45:50.399
<v Speaker 8>change or again doing in our schedule from the air.

0:45:50.680 --> 0:45:53.319
<v Speaker 8>But if we significantly degraded all this and set back

0:45:53.360 --> 0:45:55.360
<v Speaker 8>their nuclear program for years.

0:45:55.800 --> 0:45:56.799
<v Speaker 3>That was a win for me.

0:45:57.000 --> 0:45:59.400
<v Speaker 8>It's the Strait that's been the current goal, and I

0:45:59.440 --> 0:46:02.440
<v Speaker 8>just think it's a commitment of Anglo American naval policy

0:46:02.440 --> 0:46:06.040
<v Speaker 8>going back for centuries, for centuries free navigation of the seas.

0:46:06.400 --> 0:46:08.480
<v Speaker 8>So what Trump was saying at times, and maybe he's

0:46:08.520 --> 0:46:10.800
<v Speaker 8>just jaw owning people and trying to get help from allies,

0:46:10.800 --> 0:46:13.640
<v Speaker 8>but it's not our issue. Our crude oil doesn't come

0:46:13.680 --> 0:46:15.919
<v Speaker 8>through there. The Europeans should take the lead. I thought

0:46:16.000 --> 0:46:18.400
<v Speaker 8>that all was terrible. Now I like much more what

0:46:18.440 --> 0:46:20.640
<v Speaker 8>he's doing now. I think we need to see the

0:46:20.640 --> 0:46:22.399
<v Speaker 8>Straight reopened again, one way or the other.

0:46:23.080 --> 0:46:25.520
<v Speaker 1>Now, let's talk a little bit about NATO. I moderated

0:46:25.560 --> 0:46:29.000
<v Speaker 1>a panel today with the former National Security Advisor O'Brien,

0:46:29.080 --> 0:46:32.759
<v Speaker 1>his counterpartner Japan and Prime Minister Marshon of the Australia.

0:46:32.800 --> 0:46:36.520
<v Speaker 1>Former Prime minister and the PM reminded me nine years

0:46:36.520 --> 0:46:38.799
<v Speaker 1>ago we had a crisis in the Straight and Australia

0:46:38.920 --> 0:46:41.840
<v Speaker 1>sent a frigate. I'm really down on NATO, Rich and

0:46:41.880 --> 0:46:44.360
<v Speaker 1>I've always been in Atlanta, says but I'm beginning to

0:46:44.400 --> 0:46:48.520
<v Speaker 1>wonder are they really worth it? And that took a

0:46:48.560 --> 0:46:50.960
<v Speaker 1>lot to move me there. I've never ever doubted that.

0:46:51.080 --> 0:46:54.000
<v Speaker 1>But they're wabbly.

0:46:56.040 --> 0:46:57.920
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I mean they're always going to be wobblely, at

0:46:58.000 --> 0:47:00.799
<v Speaker 8>least compared to us. Look the way I look at it, Hugh,

0:47:01.120 --> 0:47:04.640
<v Speaker 8>and the grand historical sweep of historical sweeps of things.

0:47:04.920 --> 0:47:09.120
<v Speaker 8>If you told someone you're going to basically control Europe,

0:47:09.200 --> 0:47:12.040
<v Speaker 8>Europe is to defer to you on all military matters,

0:47:12.360 --> 0:47:15.239
<v Speaker 8>Europe's gonna be relatively united, and doing this, you're going

0:47:15.320 --> 0:47:18.560
<v Speaker 8>to effectively control Germany, which has been at the center

0:47:18.600 --> 0:47:22.719
<v Speaker 8>of geopolitics on the continent for centuries. And they're all

0:47:22.760 --> 0:47:26.160
<v Speaker 8>gonna be happy about that. Any statesman throughout the last

0:47:26.200 --> 0:47:27.280
<v Speaker 8>five hundred years would.

0:47:27.080 --> 0:47:28.479
<v Speaker 1>Say, yeah, give me that deal.

0:47:28.640 --> 0:47:29.200
<v Speaker 6>I'll take that.

0:47:29.239 --> 0:47:31.319
<v Speaker 8>So I don't think we should underestimate what we have

0:47:31.840 --> 0:47:35.399
<v Speaker 8>in the form of NATO. But they're highly irritating they.

0:47:35.480 --> 0:47:38.239
<v Speaker 8>I think they've played this wrong. I think they should help.

0:47:38.320 --> 0:47:41.719
<v Speaker 8>They have more directly direct at stake than we do

0:47:42.200 --> 0:47:45.200
<v Speaker 8>in the reopening of the Strait. But on the other hand,

0:47:45.239 --> 0:47:49.359
<v Speaker 8>you know, we did irritate them unnecessarily, irritates the wrong

0:47:49.400 --> 0:47:52.439
<v Speaker 8>word too soft. We freaked them out unnecessarily by talking

0:47:52.480 --> 0:47:56.560
<v Speaker 8>about taking Greenland by force, which never made any sense,

0:47:56.880 --> 0:47:59.439
<v Speaker 8>you know, the reports that they're actually were preparing for war.

0:48:00.080 --> 0:48:00.919
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, the Danes sent.

0:48:01.400 --> 0:48:04.080
<v Speaker 1>The Dane sent a couple of platoons that like a

0:48:04.200 --> 0:48:06.920
<v Speaker 1>symbolic deployment against their ality.

0:48:07.040 --> 0:48:09.239
<v Speaker 8>So it's kind of, you know, we've rubbed them the

0:48:09.280 --> 0:48:11.680
<v Speaker 8>wrong way unnecessarily. And then they're like, well, you didn't

0:48:11.680 --> 0:48:13.360
<v Speaker 8>tell us about this in advance, and now you're in

0:48:13.360 --> 0:48:14.759
<v Speaker 8>the soup with the straight and you want to help,

0:48:15.080 --> 0:48:17.320
<v Speaker 8>you know, come come talk to us later. Now. I

0:48:17.360 --> 0:48:19.480
<v Speaker 8>think that's the wrong attitude. I think they should be

0:48:19.520 --> 0:48:22.239
<v Speaker 8>more willing to help for many reasons, one of which

0:48:22.320 --> 0:48:24.560
<v Speaker 8>is people like you are having the reaction you are.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Maggie Thatcher is the one that told George H. W.

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<v Speaker 1>Bush not to go lobbly when nineteen ninety one rolled around.

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<v Speaker 1>I got a real long memory about the Iranians, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm beginning to want you're fifty seven, I'm seventy. I

0:48:37.640 --> 0:48:40.839
<v Speaker 1>don't know how old MBD is or your other participants

0:48:40.960 --> 0:48:43.000
<v Speaker 1>know as a kid too, but I don't know if

0:48:43.000 --> 0:48:46.880
<v Speaker 1>they have quite their emotional reaction about it around. I

0:48:46.920 --> 0:48:50.879
<v Speaker 1>hate those people, and let me play Marco Rubio Marco

0:48:50.960 --> 0:48:53.960
<v Speaker 1>Rubio gave voice to my pent up frustration with this

0:48:54.000 --> 0:48:56.000
<v Speaker 1>regime last week. Let's play Marco.

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<v Speaker 13>These people are lunatics, They are insane. They are religious

0:49:02.120 --> 0:49:04.560
<v Speaker 13>zelots who can never be allowed to possess a nuclear

0:49:04.600 --> 0:49:07.040
<v Speaker 13>weapon because they have an apocalyptic vision of the future

0:49:07.200 --> 0:49:09.040
<v Speaker 13>and all of their neighbors know that, by the way,

0:49:09.160 --> 0:49:11.200
<v Speaker 13>which is why all of their neighbors have been supportive

0:49:11.239 --> 0:49:12.239
<v Speaker 13>of the efforts you.

0:49:12.560 --> 0:49:14.520
<v Speaker 1>This is what I want you to play for MBD.

0:49:14.719 --> 0:49:20.960
<v Speaker 1>Rich people are nuts. We can't let that push us around.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, you know who has a similar attitude that we

0:49:23.680 --> 0:49:28.640
<v Speaker 8>do from our generations? Donald Trump? Right, No one who

0:49:29.280 --> 0:49:32.680
<v Speaker 8>lived through nineteen seventy nine in nineteen eighty will ever

0:49:32.840 --> 0:49:37.120
<v Speaker 8>view this regime as benign, as a benign actor, or

0:49:37.160 --> 0:49:40.359
<v Speaker 8>one that we can truly deal with. So I think,

0:49:40.440 --> 0:49:42.520
<v Speaker 8>you know, a lot of the commentary is forced into

0:49:42.560 --> 0:49:46.480
<v Speaker 8>this by Israel or gold into it by Israel. No,

0:49:46.640 --> 0:49:49.200
<v Speaker 8>he hates this regime to his core. We have statements

0:49:49.400 --> 0:49:52.200
<v Speaker 8>going back decades by Donald Trump saying he's going to

0:49:52.239 --> 0:49:54.640
<v Speaker 8>bomb them, or he's going to seize carg Island or

0:49:54.680 --> 0:49:58.359
<v Speaker 8>whatever it is. So I think he's totally his hard

0:49:58.400 --> 0:50:00.960
<v Speaker 8>as totally in the right place on and the subceeded

0:50:01.000 --> 0:50:02.560
<v Speaker 8>goal is the correct one.

0:50:03.680 --> 0:50:08.320
<v Speaker 1>So to put it in rich lowry terms, you always

0:50:08.320 --> 0:50:10.440
<v Speaker 1>asks the good questions. I think it's a very charming

0:50:10.480 --> 0:50:13.879
<v Speaker 1>way to do it. Are we better off than we

0:50:13.880 --> 0:50:18.440
<v Speaker 1>were six weeks ago, a year ago, and five years ago.

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<v Speaker 8>With regard to Iran, Yes, we'll be better off if

0:50:26.160 --> 0:50:28.440
<v Speaker 8>the strait is reopened. I don't think it's a close

0:50:28.480 --> 0:50:31.719
<v Speaker 8>call with the Straight. Without the Straight reopened, then it's

0:50:31.800 --> 0:50:34.280
<v Speaker 8>it's a real mixed bag and it's inconclusive.

0:50:35.719 --> 0:50:38.680
<v Speaker 1>How about five years ago when Joe Biden was going

0:50:38.719 --> 0:50:41.920
<v Speaker 1>into the White House and they were looking at another

0:50:42.000 --> 0:50:45.320
<v Speaker 1>appeaser in a long line a Democratic appeasers.

0:50:48.120 --> 0:50:50.840
<v Speaker 8>I mean, Biden was a disaster on every level. So

0:50:50.840 --> 0:50:52.680
<v Speaker 8>I'd rather to have Trump, you know, a hawk on

0:50:52.719 --> 0:50:55.160
<v Speaker 8>Iran in office. But we can't.

0:50:55.200 --> 0:50:56.440
<v Speaker 1>We can't lose the Straight to them.

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<v Speaker 8>That's going to be a historical lot on Trump's record,

0:50:58.880 --> 0:51:00.440
<v Speaker 8>which is not the most important thing. It's going to

0:51:00.440 --> 0:51:03.000
<v Speaker 8>be a blow to free navigation of the seas and

0:51:03.080 --> 0:51:06.960
<v Speaker 8>ultimately to our security and wealth as a country. So

0:51:07.480 --> 0:51:09.880
<v Speaker 8>that's the thing that just has to be fixed. And

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<v Speaker 8>if I've found a negative at times last several weeks.

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<v Speaker 8>That's the main reason.

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<v Speaker 1>I would agree. I agree with that. I just don't

0:51:17.920 --> 0:51:21.040
<v Speaker 1>think it's possible. I can't imagine the United States. I

0:51:21.080 --> 0:51:23.600
<v Speaker 1>know the president was mad and he posts stuff, but

0:51:23.719 --> 0:51:27.479
<v Speaker 1>if people just ignored his posts and watch what he does,

0:51:27.840 --> 0:51:30.319
<v Speaker 1>we're going to reopen the strait. We can't. One of

0:51:30.320 --> 0:51:33.799
<v Speaker 1>our greatest allies, UAE, I don't know what they do.

0:51:33.800 --> 0:51:35.799
<v Speaker 1>They have one pipeline. I guess that goes out to

0:51:35.880 --> 0:51:38.680
<v Speaker 1>the Red Sea. But we have to reopen the strait.

0:51:38.880 --> 0:51:41.719
<v Speaker 1>It's like a strategic necessity.

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<v Speaker 5>Absolutely, Yeah, totally agree with you.

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<v Speaker 8>And people focus on the oil, and we have, through

0:51:46.239 --> 0:51:48.520
<v Speaker 8>hook and crook, made up with some of that oil

0:51:48.760 --> 0:51:51.279
<v Speaker 8>dethsit which is why we haven't seen a catastrophe on

0:51:51.320 --> 0:51:53.799
<v Speaker 8>the level that some people have predicted. Excuse me, but

0:51:53.800 --> 0:51:56.480
<v Speaker 8>there are all sorts of other materials and goods that

0:51:56.520 --> 0:51:58.359
<v Speaker 8>we get through the straight ufour moves that people aren't

0:51:58.400 --> 0:52:00.839
<v Speaker 8>focusing as much on. So it has to it has

0:52:00.880 --> 0:52:02.400
<v Speaker 8>to reopen it. And I think it'd be a national

0:52:02.480 --> 0:52:05.920
<v Speaker 8>humiliation if we just let Iran control and toll the

0:52:05.960 --> 0:52:08.080
<v Speaker 8>straight of her moves. And this is what we have

0:52:08.120 --> 0:52:10.360
<v Speaker 8>a fifth fleet for Hugh to keep this kind of

0:52:10.400 --> 0:52:11.080
<v Speaker 8>thing from happening.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, now, I want to switch totally on you

0:52:13.480 --> 0:52:16.520
<v Speaker 1>because you're the Protestant. We don't care what happens with

0:52:16.560 --> 0:52:18.680
<v Speaker 1>the Pope. I'm the Catholic that says I'd rather it's

0:52:18.719 --> 0:52:20.680
<v Speaker 1>not happen. But I don't really put much stock in it.

0:52:21.600 --> 0:52:25.000
<v Speaker 1>MBD is the Catholics. Catholic I really don't put much

0:52:25.000 --> 0:52:29.080
<v Speaker 1>stock on this rich the trading of statements and posts

0:52:29.160 --> 0:52:32.600
<v Speaker 1>between a president who's got a political job and a

0:52:32.680 --> 0:52:34.839
<v Speaker 1>pontiff he's got a religious job. Do you.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's unfortunate.

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<v Speaker 8>I had to put a huge amount of stock on it,

0:52:40.120 --> 0:52:43.759
<v Speaker 8>and it look I think the Pope has been misleading

0:52:43.800 --> 0:52:46.640
<v Speaker 8>and how he's portrayed what the Bible says about warfare.

0:52:46.680 --> 0:52:51.160
<v Speaker 8>He cited on Palm Sunday this verse from Isaiah one fifteen.

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<v Speaker 8>You got blood in your hands, and God's not going

0:52:52.920 --> 0:52:55.880
<v Speaker 8>to listen to your prayers. That's about a condemnation of

0:52:55.920 --> 0:52:56.960
<v Speaker 8>the religious.

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<v Speaker 6>Practices in Judah.

0:52:57.880 --> 0:52:59.440
<v Speaker 1>It's not about Judah waging warfare.

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<v Speaker 8>And later on the chapter in the Book of Isaiah,

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<v Speaker 8>you have the King of Judeah praying to God to

0:53:06.520 --> 0:53:08.760
<v Speaker 8>smite the Assyrians who are threatening Jerusalem.

0:53:08.760 --> 0:53:09.560
<v Speaker 1>And he does so.

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<v Speaker 8>The idea that God never listens to the prayers of

0:53:12.440 --> 0:53:15.200
<v Speaker 8>anyone who ages war, as Pocolio says it, I think

0:53:15.320 --> 0:53:18.840
<v Speaker 8>is simplistic and reductive. Now just war matters, and I

0:53:18.880 --> 0:53:21.839
<v Speaker 8>think the Pope should consider when did Trump first talk

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<v Speaker 8>about hitting ran in the separation and then move down

0:53:24.560 --> 0:53:26.240
<v Speaker 8>thousands in their own people in the streets.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the part that bothers me as a Catholic is

0:53:29.880 --> 0:53:33.360
<v Speaker 1>that Jimmy la is in jail in China because of

0:53:33.400 --> 0:53:36.200
<v Speaker 1>the Roman Catholic Church making a bad deal with China.

0:53:36.719 --> 0:53:40.080
<v Speaker 1>And I haven't seen much from the Vatican about the

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<v Speaker 1>dead Iranean Rich Lowry I like to agree on that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be listening to the editors whenever it comes out next.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for joining me, follo him on exed Rich Lowry,

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<v Speaker 1>listen to the editors in stay.

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<v Speaker 10>Tuned backb the wedd is honesty that the firing is.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back America. That's Oasia. If they were inducting the

0:53:59.320 --> 0:54:01.400
<v Speaker 1>Rock and Roll Hall of Fame today, all my bump

0:54:01.480 --> 0:54:04.960
<v Speaker 1>music coming from inductees today. I'm sure Matt Cotton and

0:54:05.040 --> 0:54:07.840
<v Speaker 1>he is a big fan of Oasis since he wasn't

0:54:07.880 --> 0:54:11.480
<v Speaker 1>born when Oasis was out there, Matt, Do you like Oasis.

0:54:12.760 --> 0:54:15.919
<v Speaker 14>Qu That's like the soundtrack to my adolescence, that saw

0:54:16.040 --> 0:54:16.879
<v Speaker 14>wonder Wall right?

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<v Speaker 12>There? Are you kidding on? How young do you take me?

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<v Speaker 12>For you? I didn't just follow off the apple cart.

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<v Speaker 6>I think of you as a young man.

0:54:24.280 --> 0:54:27.440
<v Speaker 1>That's a compliment, though, that's a compliment. I want to

0:54:27.440 --> 0:54:30.120
<v Speaker 1>be in with a big assess the past week, which

0:54:30.120 --> 0:54:34.480
<v Speaker 1>would include Islamabad, an embargo, and a report from the

0:54:34.520 --> 0:54:38.120
<v Speaker 1>Bank of Tehran that the economy is in collapse in Iran.

0:54:38.200 --> 0:54:41.320
<v Speaker 1>And I mean collapse collapse. There are republic collapse.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 14>Well, I think it's been a roller coaster the past week.

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<v Speaker 14>I think that after a potential distraction in Islamabad, the

0:54:53.360 --> 0:54:55.960
<v Speaker 14>President has settled on what seems to me to be

0:54:56.080 --> 0:55:01.840
<v Speaker 14>the appropriate policy of blockading the Iranian ports and answering

0:55:01.960 --> 0:55:07.480
<v Speaker 14>Iran's hostage taking of the Strait of Hormuz. With American power,

0:55:07.719 --> 0:55:10.360
<v Speaker 14>we have the power to control our own destiny, and

0:55:10.400 --> 0:55:12.960
<v Speaker 14>that's what I think the President has done by saying

0:55:13.000 --> 0:55:17.120
<v Speaker 14>that the US Navy and Central Command will be disallowing

0:55:17.920 --> 0:55:20.480
<v Speaker 14>ships to go in and out of Iranian ports, just

0:55:20.920 --> 0:55:27.120
<v Speaker 14>strangling the regime's economy. Which is really the lifeline to

0:55:27.200 --> 0:55:32.000
<v Speaker 14>the IRGC, the terrorist regime. So I think we had

0:55:32.040 --> 0:55:35.920
<v Speaker 14>the potential for a bad deal in Islamabab, but that

0:55:36.000 --> 0:55:38.920
<v Speaker 14>didn't happen. And I think it didn't happen because the

0:55:38.960 --> 0:55:42.600
<v Speaker 14>negotiating team, whether it was Jared Kushner or Steve Witkoff

0:55:42.680 --> 0:55:47.240
<v Speaker 14>or Vice President Vance, saw just how intransigent the Iranians are.

0:55:47.719 --> 0:55:49.320
<v Speaker 12>And it's also because.

0:55:49.080 --> 0:55:52.000
<v Speaker 14>President Trump and President Trump has been crystal clear for

0:55:52.080 --> 0:55:55.040
<v Speaker 14>decades he won't allow Iran to get a nuclear weapon.

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<v Speaker 14>He has not wavered, and he continues to stand strong

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<v Speaker 14>as we enter this new phase of the conflict.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with all that. I am getting very tired

0:56:04.239 --> 0:56:06.959
<v Speaker 1>of people telling me what President Trump thinks, and what JD.

0:56:07.120 --> 0:56:10.200
<v Speaker 1>Vans thinks and what Witcoff think. Have you noticed how

0:56:10.239 --> 0:56:13.080
<v Speaker 1>many mind readers we have in the analytical community, Matt.

0:56:13.120 --> 0:56:15.279
<v Speaker 1>They don't deal with events, They deal with what they

0:56:15.360 --> 0:56:16.280
<v Speaker 1>think people think.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, it's a case of projection.

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<v Speaker 14>You need a team of psychiatrists to study Washington, and

0:56:22.960 --> 0:56:27.920
<v Speaker 14>they would they would view the analyst community as exhibiting

0:56:27.920 --> 0:56:30.919
<v Speaker 14>that that delusion of projecting their own fantasies and wish

0:56:30.920 --> 0:56:34.600
<v Speaker 14>fulfillments onto these Administrative administration players.

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<v Speaker 12>You know, it's interesting, Hugh.

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<v Speaker 14>Both Kushner and Witkoff participated in the last round of

0:56:40.320 --> 0:56:44.319
<v Speaker 14>negotiations prior to the beginning of Operation Epic Fury, and

0:56:44.560 --> 0:56:46.600
<v Speaker 14>I think both of them went in thinking, you know what,

0:56:46.760 --> 0:56:49.040
<v Speaker 14>there's a deal to be had with the Iranian regime,

0:56:49.400 --> 0:56:53.960
<v Speaker 14>and they came away, if anything, more skeptical than before.

0:56:54.080 --> 0:56:56.320
<v Speaker 14>And to hear Steve Witkoff talk about the way in

0:56:56.360 --> 0:57:00.000
<v Speaker 14>which the Iranians treated him during that round of negotiations

0:57:00.360 --> 0:57:03.239
<v Speaker 14>is to really see someone listen to someone who is

0:57:03.520 --> 0:57:06.360
<v Speaker 14>one of my heroes. One set has been mugged by reality.

0:57:06.560 --> 0:57:09.160
<v Speaker 14>And I think that's happened to Vice President Vance as well,

0:57:09.320 --> 0:57:12.840
<v Speaker 14>because in his post negotiation interview he said, look, I

0:57:12.920 --> 0:57:15.600
<v Speaker 14>may have given advice to the President before the beginning

0:57:15.600 --> 0:57:18.880
<v Speaker 14>of the operation, but having dealt with the Iranians in

0:57:18.920 --> 0:57:22.000
<v Speaker 14>Islamabad over the weekend, I can see it's very hard

0:57:22.000 --> 0:57:23.760
<v Speaker 14>to make a deal with them. Why is it so

0:57:23.840 --> 0:57:26.320
<v Speaker 14>hard to make a deal with them, because the Iranian regime,

0:57:26.360 --> 0:57:28.880
<v Speaker 14>what's left of it, understands that if they were to

0:57:28.880 --> 0:57:32.480
<v Speaker 14>give up nuclear Enrichmond, the regime really has no reason

0:57:32.840 --> 0:57:36.200
<v Speaker 14>to exist, and that is what the Iranians are playing

0:57:36.240 --> 0:57:39.320
<v Speaker 14>for They're playing for survival. We have a whole range

0:57:39.360 --> 0:57:42.160
<v Speaker 14>of different goals in this operation, but what the Iranian

0:57:42.160 --> 0:57:43.720
<v Speaker 14>regime is playing for is survival.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we achieved a strategic breakthrough, I think of sorts

0:57:47.480 --> 0:57:51.040
<v Speaker 1>and I hope we have kept Secretary Rubio's clip. Adam

0:57:51.080 --> 0:57:54.640
<v Speaker 1>can whisper in my ear if we've got it ready

0:57:54.680 --> 0:57:56.680
<v Speaker 1>to play. But in the meantime, I will ask you

0:57:56.680 --> 0:58:00.600
<v Speaker 1>about Lebanon. As we speak over at the State Department,

0:58:01.320 --> 0:58:04.120
<v Speaker 1>a first effort is occurring. A delegation from the government

0:58:04.160 --> 0:58:06.240
<v Speaker 1>of Lebanon is shitting down with a delegation from the

0:58:06.240 --> 0:58:09.600
<v Speaker 1>government of Israel. What's that tell you, Matt Kontinetti. That's

0:58:09.600 --> 0:58:10.840
<v Speaker 1>a fact that's happening.

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<v Speaker 14>Well, it tells me that since the beginning of the

0:58:15.080 --> 0:58:19.880
<v Speaker 14>post October seventh conflicts, the Lebanese government has moved to

0:58:20.040 --> 0:58:23.360
<v Speaker 14>a position where they understand that Hesbola is a liability,

0:58:23.480 --> 0:58:27.000
<v Speaker 14>not an asset, and there's a potential for some type

0:58:27.040 --> 0:58:31.800
<v Speaker 14>of effort to disarm Hezbola by the Lebanese government. Now,

0:58:32.200 --> 0:58:34.160
<v Speaker 14>I think we have ways to go before we reach

0:58:34.240 --> 0:58:38.720
<v Speaker 14>that settlement, but it does show I think that like

0:58:39.080 --> 0:58:42.120
<v Speaker 14>the other Arab states, like the other Gulf states in

0:58:42.160 --> 0:58:46.360
<v Speaker 14>the region. Since Operation Epic Fury, Lebanon and the Lebanese

0:58:46.400 --> 0:58:50.400
<v Speaker 14>government has seen the face of the enemy. They understand

0:58:50.440 --> 0:58:53.680
<v Speaker 14>that Iran and it's so called Axis of resistance, these

0:58:53.760 --> 0:58:57.400
<v Speaker 14>terrorist proxies, which include Hesbela Hamas, the Hutis, the militias

0:58:57.400 --> 0:59:01.480
<v Speaker 14>in Barak and Syria, they are contributing nothing to the

0:59:01.920 --> 0:59:05.760
<v Speaker 14>Middle East except violence, terror and bloodshed. And so I

0:59:05.800 --> 0:59:09.160
<v Speaker 14>hope that these negotiations go well, we'll have to We'll

0:59:09.160 --> 0:59:09.720
<v Speaker 14>have to watch.

0:59:10.040 --> 0:59:12.880
<v Speaker 1>That's the very clarity that I think was the breakthrough.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's Secretary of Rubio last week.

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<v Speaker 13>People are lunatics, they are insane, They are religious zelots

0:59:18.680 --> 0:59:20.920
<v Speaker 13>who can never be allowed to possess a nuclear weapon

0:59:20.920 --> 0:59:23.320
<v Speaker 13>because they have an apocalyptic vision of the future. And

0:59:23.440 --> 0:59:25.400
<v Speaker 13>all of their neighbors know that, by the way, which

0:59:25.480 --> 0:59:27.360
<v Speaker 13>is why all of their neighbors have been supportive of

0:59:27.360 --> 0:59:27.840
<v Speaker 13>the efforts.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, That's why I think it was a big win.

0:59:30.680 --> 0:59:32.680
<v Speaker 1>And when we can get the Secretary of State to

0:59:32.760 --> 0:59:36.200
<v Speaker 1>say these people are lunatics and everybody knows it, isn't

0:59:36.200 --> 0:59:39.160
<v Speaker 1>that a win for the world. When we recognize Hitler

0:59:39.240 --> 0:59:42.240
<v Speaker 1>is Hitler and the people running Iran are crazy.

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<v Speaker 14>I think the world is safer when the United States

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<v Speaker 14>has leaders who can distinguish between good and evil, sane

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<v Speaker 14>and crazy, who understand the threat from Iran. The threat

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<v Speaker 14>of an Iranian nuclear weapon, all of the havoc, the

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<v Speaker 14>economic dislocation, the damage which to civilian infrastructure that Iran

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<v Speaker 14>has caused during the weeks of Operation Epic Fury, would

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<v Speaker 14>be magnified to an apocalyptic dimension. If they had a

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<v Speaker 14>nuclear weapon. There'd be no opening the Strait of Hormuz,

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<v Speaker 14>which the United States government is now in the process

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<v Speaker 14>of doing, if Iran had a nuclear weapon. So we've

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<v Speaker 14>seen why Iran cannot be allowed to have this nuclear weapon.

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<v Speaker 14>That doesn't mean the job is done. The strait has

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<v Speaker 14>to be open, and we have to find a way,

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<v Speaker 14>either diplomatically or militarily, to guarantee that Iran never produces

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<v Speaker 14>enriched uranium again. But I think right now we're in

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<v Speaker 14>a much better place than we were, say a week ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think we have to get the six hundred

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<v Speaker 1>pounds of your enriched uranium to call it a day,

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<v Speaker 1>Matt or do we need the regime to do something

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<v Speaker 1>concrete visa be the people of Iran who are held

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<v Speaker 1>under their boot.

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<v Speaker 12>I mean the uranium uranium dust.

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<v Speaker 14>As the President has called it and others have called it,

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<v Speaker 14>is being monitored.

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<v Speaker 12>It's underground.

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<v Speaker 14>So whether it's we have eyes on it all the

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<v Speaker 14>time and we just create a circle and no go

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<v Speaker 14>zone for Iranians around that perimeter, or whether we actually

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<v Speaker 14>extract it. I mean, I think we have several options.

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<v Speaker 14>The Pickax Mountain facility, though, is one that I think

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<v Speaker 14>we have to take very seriously, and someone has to

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<v Speaker 14>gain entry into it, the United States allowing the IEA

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<v Speaker 14>to go in there and to monitor it, those are

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<v Speaker 14>very important. And opening the straight and not allowing Iran

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<v Speaker 14>to impede the free flow of commerce on the seas,

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<v Speaker 14>that is extremely important.

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<v Speaker 12>Those two things.

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<v Speaker 14>If we achieved both of those goals, combined with the

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<v Speaker 14>way which we've destroyed the iranium war machine, truly degraded it,

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<v Speaker 14>I think you then have the conditions, combined with that

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<v Speaker 14>economic pressure for with the regime to unravel. It will

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<v Speaker 14>be a process of months, but I think it will happen.

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<v Speaker 1>It took three years after Rekovic for the Berlin Wall

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<v Speaker 1>to fall. I think it might take less time for

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<v Speaker 1>this regime to fall. After Rekovic two point zero Islamabad

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<v Speaker 1>Domestic politics, next with Matt Continent, any of the Wall

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<v Speaker 1>Street Journal, the American enterprises too, don't go anywhere. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>be right back with Matt on the Hugh Hewitt Show,

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome Back America. That's Iron Maiden. I don't think Matt

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<v Speaker 1>Continent he listened to Iron Maiden. He doesn't strike me

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<v Speaker 1>as an Iron Maiden kind of guy. Did you listen

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<v Speaker 1>to Iron Maiden? Matt?

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<v Speaker 14>I went to school with a lot of kids wore

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<v Speaker 14>wearing used Iron Maiden T shirts. Hugh, That's about as

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<v Speaker 14>close as I got.

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say, this is definitely not your bowling, Wayne.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to switch to domestic issues. Last week, little

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<v Speaker 1>unnoticed because of the news, the President dropped a budget.

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<v Speaker 1>That budget called for a trillion and a half dollars

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<v Speaker 1>in defense spending and the most ambitious shipbuilding programs in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen fifty five, eighteen warships, sixteen auxiliary ships. What do

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<v Speaker 1>you think about its chances? Do you think they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to use reconciliation? And do you think it was partly

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<v Speaker 1>in response to our being a naval power very much

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<v Speaker 1>in the Straits and outside of the Straits right now,

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<v Speaker 1>in the here and.

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<v Speaker 14>Now right well, so much is up in the air

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<v Speaker 14>with reconciliation, and of course this weekend Capitol Hill will

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<v Speaker 14>be spent trying to get the shutdown of the DHS resolved.

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<v Speaker 14>I don't know whether the one and a half trillion

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<v Speaker 14>dollar defense budget will be through that process as well,

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<v Speaker 14>though I think they should consider it, because I believe

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<v Speaker 14>they have two bites of the apple, the reconciliation apple

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<v Speaker 14>left you. I think the key question here is what

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<v Speaker 14>you pointed out with the capacity of our navy, and

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<v Speaker 14>I would just refer our our audience to that great

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<v Speaker 14>interview you did with Admiral Mark Montgomery the other day

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<v Speaker 14>where he was talking about kind of the burn rate

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<v Speaker 14>of some of these vessels we have operating in the

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<v Speaker 14>Middle East and then of course in the Caribbean as well,

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<v Speaker 14>where once the deployment ends they have to go in

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<v Speaker 14>for maintenance.

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<v Speaker 12>And so you don't want to get into a situation.

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<v Speaker 14>Where, God forbid, a crisis happens in the Taiwan straight

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<v Speaker 14>and all of a sudden we have aircraft carriers they're

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<v Speaker 14>all in dry dock being repaired and can't move to

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<v Speaker 14>respond to the crisis.

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<v Speaker 12>So that is I think the biggest.

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<v Speaker 14>And most compelling argument for spending all it takes to

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<v Speaker 14>expand our naval capacity. We have guaranteed the safe passage

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<v Speaker 14>of the global commons of airscene space since the end

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<v Speaker 14>of the Second World War. That's what we're fighting for

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<v Speaker 14>right now at the Strait of Hormuz. And in order

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<v Speaker 14>to do that, you need a navy capable of the job.

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<v Speaker 14>And that's why I think Congress should move expeditiously to

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<v Speaker 14>expanding our navy, making sure it has the ships it

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<v Speaker 14>needs to guarantee the security of commerce and the prosperity

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<v Speaker 14>of the United States and the world in an event

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<v Speaker 14>of a crisis.

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<v Speaker 1>So I want to close Matt by talking about President

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<v Speaker 1>Trump's posts, and there have been a few that have

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<v Speaker 1>been very controversial this week. I don't know why he

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<v Speaker 1>posts them, but I do know the effect it has.

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<v Speaker 1>Almost instantly, everyone in my life who has TDS sends

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<v Speaker 1>me a direct message or a text that says, aren't

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<v Speaker 1>you finally going to turn on him? Aren't you finally

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<v Speaker 1>going to say He's crazy? Don't you feel bad? One

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<v Speaker 1>guy told me I was in danger of losing my

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<v Speaker 1>soul because he'd attacked the Pope, and I wasn't attacking

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<v Speaker 1>him back now. I just got done saying we shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>guess at what people's motives are. But do you think

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<v Speaker 1>he does what he does online in order to remind

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<v Speaker 1>people who've got TDS offline?

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<v Speaker 12>Sometimes I'm not sure why he does what he does.

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<v Speaker 14>To be perfectly honest, I think the one thing we

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<v Speaker 14>know about President Trump is he has no filter, and

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<v Speaker 14>that's been actually an asset for him politically because he

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<v Speaker 14>is always very direct about how he feels at any

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<v Speaker 14>given moment. Sometimes it gets him into trouble, and it's

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<v Speaker 14>gotten him into trouble with more frequency, I think in

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<v Speaker 14>the past couple of weeks. But I with President Trump

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<v Speaker 14>have a very simple rule. Rather than looking at what

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<v Speaker 14>he says, I look at what he does. He does,

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<v Speaker 14>and he's having this conflict with the Pope. I don't

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<v Speaker 14>think it will benefit anyone, But I'm looking at what

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<v Speaker 14>he does and in the policy realm and the conflict

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<v Speaker 14>we are engaged in at the moment with Iran, I

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<v Speaker 14>believe he's settled on the right policy.

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<v Speaker 1>Now. You know, I'm a Catholic, cradle Catholic matt and

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<v Speaker 1>popes have been have scuffed it up a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>with presidents forever. We did a lot with this with Francis,

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<v Speaker 1>We did some of this with Bennett Nick them with

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<v Speaker 1>John Paul, but not nearly as much. It doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't change the church, it doesn't change the presidency.

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<v Speaker 1>It sure makes good copy, though. Have you written about it?

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<v Speaker 1>I wrote about it for Tomorrow's Washington Examiner. Have you

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<v Speaker 1>written about it yet? Because it's good copy.

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<v Speaker 12>It's good copy. I haven't read about it.

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<v Speaker 14>I have to say, I do credit the president with

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<v Speaker 14>originality for calling the Pope soft on crime.

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<v Speaker 12>That was new to me, That was new to me,

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<v Speaker 12>that made me, that made me laugh. I have to

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<v Speaker 12>admit it. But okay, yeah, it does make for good copy.

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<v Speaker 14>And it puts it puts liberals in weird situations. I

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<v Speaker 14>saw one headline, Hugh where USA Today was saying a

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<v Speaker 14>Popolio for president, except really, you.

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<v Speaker 12>Know, you might you might want to look at some.

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<v Speaker 14>Of his positions on the other issues, right, that's the point,

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<v Speaker 14>United States?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, May next time I will ask you about axel

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<v Speaker 1>Rod's theory of Americans electing the opposite temperament, because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sure what the opposite temperament, and President Trump is

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<v Speaker 1>to find the most boring person in America to be president.

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<v Speaker 1>At that theory holds, Matt Continety can be followed on

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<v Speaker 1>x at continenty read in the Wall Street Journal that

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<v Speaker 1>is free Expressions column, and everything he does over at

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<v Speaker 1>the American Enterprise Institute. Thank you, Matt. I'll be right

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<v Speaker 1>Hugh Welcome back America. I'm Hugh Hewittt. That is Phil Collins,

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<v Speaker 1>and my guest is James Lyas. Who could not be

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<v Speaker 1>a more appropriate guest today on the day when the

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<v Speaker 1>Rock and Roll Hall of Fame announces its annual inductees.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm going to give you a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a minute on each of them. Let's start with Phil

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<v Speaker 1>Collins LILEX, what say you interer out? Good choice, bad.

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<v Speaker 6>Choice, fantastic choice. He is one of the best drummers

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<v Speaker 6>in rock and roll.

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<v Speaker 15>Imagine if at some point of the sixties the Rolling

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<v Speaker 15>Stones had said, you know what, We're going to put

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<v Speaker 15>Charlie Watts, our steady drummer into Mick Jagger spot and

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<v Speaker 15>Mick Jagger went off to a solo career and the

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<v Speaker 15>Rolling Stones exploded.

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<v Speaker 6>You imagined imagined Richard Starkey taking over for Paul McCartney.

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<v Speaker 15>It's about that Phil Collins stepped into the role of

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<v Speaker 15>the departed singer. The band blew up and became incredibly famous,

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<v Speaker 15>and good for them. They deserve to make some money.

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<v Speaker 15>And I was one of the first people to hear

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<v Speaker 15>in the Air Tonight because unlike most, I bought that

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<v Speaker 15>album the second it came out because I was a

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<v Speaker 15>Genesis fan. Phil Collins is also one of the world's

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<v Speaker 15>greatest collectors of Alamo material, and as a matter of fact,

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<v Speaker 15>psychic told him that he was reincarnated from the last

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<v Speaker 15>person to leave the Alamo before the battle. He donated

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<v Speaker 15>the whole collections of the Alamo itself. So this magnificent

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<v Speaker 15>thing that he assembled from all the millions that he

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<v Speaker 15>got as a pop star ended up benefiting American history

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<v Speaker 15>for generations to come.

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<v Speaker 6>I love Phil Collins.

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<v Speaker 1>I would like to tell the audience, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>Lilas had no idea we were going to do this

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<v Speaker 1>segment or talk about these people, So this is just

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<v Speaker 1>Lilac's being Lilacs. You can hear him on Thursday Night

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<v Speaker 1>with General Lisimo on the After Show, which is now

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<v Speaker 1>called Dwayne's World, but you have to join the universe,

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<v Speaker 1>Part number two, Billy Idol, What say you?

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<v Speaker 15>I love Billy Idol, the sneer, the whiplash sneer that buzz.

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<v Speaker 6>Cut came out of. You know, he came out of.

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<v Speaker 15>A real, actual generations, as they called themselves, a punk band,

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<v Speaker 15>and he was a genuine pump. But he was too charismatic,

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<v Speaker 15>and he got glammed up a little bit buffed up,

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<v Speaker 15>got some good songs and an amazing guitarist and deserved

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<v Speaker 15>again the hit that he had, iconic eighties look and songs.

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<v Speaker 15>What I love about Billy Idol is that the last

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<v Speaker 15>thing I heard from him. There's a new documentary by

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<v Speaker 15>the way called Billy Idol Should Be Dead. I haven't

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<v Speaker 15>seen it.

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<v Speaker 6>The last thing I saw from him was a Christmas

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<v Speaker 6>album that Billy.

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<v Speaker 15>Was singing, you know, honey, baby is cold outside, and

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<v Speaker 15>I hope I was hoping that he did it with

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<v Speaker 15>a particularly malevolent sneer in his voice.

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<v Speaker 6>Of malice, you know, the way people are always saying

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<v Speaker 6>that song is meant to be. But no, he played

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<v Speaker 6>it completely straight, Billy Idol doing for you know, I

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<v Speaker 6>can think of worse things I remind.

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<v Speaker 1>I get through this list. Number three, Queue up Iron

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<v Speaker 1>Maiden for people, Adam just a little Iron Maiden, James,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think of.

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<v Speaker 15>Iron Maiden, Well, one of the earlier hair bands, if

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<v Speaker 15>you want to say that, fond a whole lot of

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<v Speaker 15>other guys that came out there.

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<v Speaker 6>Put a little bit more hair on print to their hair,

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<v Speaker 6>put on a little bit more lipstick on there. Well,

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<v Speaker 6>you got to remember about Iron Maiden. They were one

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<v Speaker 6>of those groups that didn't just have a logo.

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<v Speaker 15>They had a mascot. They had a mascot called Eddie

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<v Speaker 15>Eddie the Head I think he was called.

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<v Speaker 6>It was sort of this cadaverous, leering, ec comics kind

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<v Speaker 6>of guy that would accompany their antics great stuff.

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<v Speaker 15>I wasn't really ever a heavy metal guy because it's

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<v Speaker 15>too much about you know, hello Satan, let's sit down

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<v Speaker 15>and have some crumpets. But again, you can't do the

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<v Speaker 15>history of metal and rock in the eighties without getting

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<v Speaker 15>the Iron Maiden.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, I'm not sure you're gonna have any commentary

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<v Speaker 1>on Joy Division and New Order.

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<v Speaker 15>Oh well, Joy Division, Yeah, Joy Division named after I

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<v Speaker 15>believe a Hitler organization had handed out prostitutes and then

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<v Speaker 15>of course.

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<v Speaker 6>New Order out of that New Order is one of

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<v Speaker 6>the greatest.

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<v Speaker 15>Bands synth bands, pop band of the era as well distinctive.

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<v Speaker 15>I think it's Bernard Summers is the guy who's the vocalist.

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<v Speaker 15>This very dry bass sound. You can always recognize their

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<v Speaker 15>album Requiem, which I think came out in about nineteen

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<v Speaker 15>ninety one ninety two, or Nnstory Republic as one of

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<v Speaker 15>the greatest synthpop records ever.

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<v Speaker 6>And I fil turning it out periodically every other year.

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<v Speaker 6>You'll say, oh, New Order as.

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<v Speaker 15>A song and it'll sound like it did twenty years ago.

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<v Speaker 15>You know, the iconic Blue Monday. And I shouldn't use

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<v Speaker 15>the word iconic so much, but Blue Monday is one

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<v Speaker 15>of those songs in my unit's generations, comes on the radio.

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<v Speaker 6>I turn it up. It comes on the radio, and

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<v Speaker 6>my daughter's in the car. She turns it up.

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<v Speaker 1>Great, all right, Oasis, Yeah, I don't have much to

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<v Speaker 1>say about them, all right, Sade Sharde.

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<v Speaker 15>Jar Day it was this is this beautiful, gorgeous, hultry,

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<v Speaker 15>smoky jazz gaming about eighty seven eighty eight, I'd say.

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<v Speaker 6>Smooth operator was Is it really pronounced Sunday? I think

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<v Speaker 6>it's Shardei.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh, I'm saying Mark.

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<v Speaker 15>Yeah, I mean beautiful, beautiful voice for romantic sort of

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<v Speaker 15>the happier person's Chris.

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<v Speaker 6>Isaac from the dist out side. Everybody bought her album,

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<v Speaker 6>everybody made out to it. She deserves to be there.

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<v Speaker 6>Is it rock? Well, if you want to expand the

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<v Speaker 6>definition of rock to include sultry, smokey, soft, soulful.

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<v Speaker 1>Songs, then sure, Okay.

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<v Speaker 6>Luther Van Dross, Yeah, probably.

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<v Speaker 15>I don't know as much about him at all, except

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<v Speaker 15>to say the name I heard is recognizable, and I'd

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<v Speaker 15>recognize a tune of is or two. But he's one

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<v Speaker 15>of those guys who probably should have gotten in earlier

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<v Speaker 15>and getting around to him because he's I believe, predates

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<v Speaker 15>most of the people were talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, very last one. And I have nothing to say

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<v Speaker 1>about Wutong Klan, but maybe you do.

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<v Speaker 15>I don't have anything this may about them either, and

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<v Speaker 15>it's just isn't because they're bad.

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<v Speaker 6>Some of their stuff is okay. I like it.

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<v Speaker 15>I'll NodD around to it, but it's because it comes

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<v Speaker 15>at a point where I, in my life had stopped

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<v Speaker 15>paying particular attention as much as i'd before to radio

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<v Speaker 15>and pop music for two reasons.

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<v Speaker 6>One I was getting older. Two, I was finding more

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<v Speaker 6>stuff that was niche than I ordered that I believed.

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<v Speaker 15>And I guess there's a third reason. The music of

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<v Speaker 15>the you know of my thirties was demonstrably inferior to

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<v Speaker 15>the music of my topic. So just that I got old,

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<v Speaker 15>and without question, it got bad, it'd got meritricious, it

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<v Speaker 15>got stupid.

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<v Speaker 6>There was still great stuff to be had, but ill

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<v Speaker 6>you would have were.

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<v Speaker 15>Lucky enough so that our drop off in interest in

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<v Speaker 15>pop music coincided with the fall of pop music itself.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's kind of I got just old. Phil Collins

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't have been in in like year three, right, Why

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<v Speaker 1>did it take so then?

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<v Speaker 6>I'm not sure about that.

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<v Speaker 15>There's a lot of Yeah, I don't know how many

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<v Speaker 15>induct a year, but you know, I put zz Top

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<v Speaker 15>before I put in Phil Collins. Phil Collins is a

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<v Speaker 15>great drummer, but he's a jazz drummer in so many ways.

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<v Speaker 6>He's a great vocalist and that treb. He didn't write

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<v Speaker 6>a lot of the songs I would have put.

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<v Speaker 15>You know, there's so many bands from the sixties, foundational bands.

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<v Speaker 6>That I would have put in first I would.

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<v Speaker 1>Hermit torments of the Rock Hall of Fame. You're to

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<v Speaker 1>put in Herman's m.

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<v Speaker 15>Yeah, you know, second and second verse same as the first.

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<v Speaker 15>Not exactly the moskst lyrically invented group out there, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 15>I would have.

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<v Speaker 6>I would have put them in, not because they're better.

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<v Speaker 15>But just because I would have laid the foundation for

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<v Speaker 15>the for the rock and you know, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>It's an evolutionary walk you've got to start, you know that.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you go to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame? Ever?

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<v Speaker 6>No, I haven't been there though.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh James, Uh, that's that's the place you and Dwayne

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<v Speaker 1>should do a uh what are we going on with?

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<v Speaker 1>Till Colin Lilacs. You can hear him again Thursday night

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<v Speaker 1>in the after show now called Dwayne's World. Used to

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<v Speaker 1>be called Dwayne's Road when it was behind outside the paywall.

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<v Speaker 1>Now it's behind the paywall where the after show used

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<v Speaker 1>to be. But Lilac's in the Magnificent seven back with

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<v Speaker 1>Dwayne on Thursday night to say here, thank you, James,