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Speaker 2: All right, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

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Speaker 3: We are currently in a recess in the court on

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Speaker 3: the fifth day of the State of Utah versus Tyler Robinson,

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Speaker 3: the preliminary hearing, and we've got some great guys here

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Speaker 3: the court proceedings. That is Kurt Schlichter. He is obviously

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Speaker 3: an attorney. He's the author of a lot of books.

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Speaker 3: Hold on, Kurt, you sent me you got a new one,

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Speaker 3: American Warlord that's coming up.

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Speaker 2: I want to make sure we give you that.

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Speaker 3: Kurt, you're like a lawyer, Well you're not like a lawyer.

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Speaker 3: You are a lawyer, and yet you're also a novelist,

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Speaker 3: which you're prolific, by the way. So I want to

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Speaker 2: Gentlemen, welcome to the show. It's good to have you.

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Speaker 3: Both on as we're waiting here since we do have

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I think the first misconception is that there's

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Speaker 2: I wanted to get you in so much more here, man.

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Speaker 3: Because you have been doing the Lord's work shutting down

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Speaker 3: what you're seeing here, ladies and gentlemen, is that John

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Speaker 3: To happen now, so Erica, Kathy rob Kirk, the Kirk

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Speaker 2: Okay, this whole thing was so boring this morning.

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Speaker 3: So many many multiples of that. So yeah, it is.

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Speaker 3: It is frustrating, you know. I think in general, Judge

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Speaker 3: Graf has done a pretty good job.

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Speaker 7: Eight thousand hours. I should correct my math on that.

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Speaker 3: But this is just this is beginning to become a

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Speaker 8: Judge, your owner has your honor has heard four days

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Speaker 3: So your honor has heard four days of testimony. Now

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Speaker 6: It's it's like, I think of what my friend the

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Speaker 2: It's devastating. Let's go back to this.

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Speaker 3: And by the way, apologies, apparently something happened with my

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Speaker 3: You've got law enforcement, Tyler Robinson did it. Tyler's trans boyfriend,

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Speaker 6: On the judge ruling this, we'll have been hearing on

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Speaker 6: Do we need to have more judges? Do we need

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Speaker 2: I want to talk about. You know what it is,

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Speaker 3: I'm convinced that Judge graph Is. He seems to me

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Speaker 3: he's saying, this is a violation of the fourteenth Amendment.

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Speaker 2: You know, my client six and fourteenth Amendment rights. What

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Speaker 3: In translation lawyers speak, we're going to get this thing

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Speaker 3: and it sounds like it seems like he's been successful

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Speaker 6: We all got that sinking and feeling in our I'm

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Speaker 6: they're gonna run with us, and lo and behold today

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Speaker 2: That's all they have.

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Speaker 7: This letter was blasted out to everyone.

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Speaker 6: We need to take the cameras out of the courtroom,

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Speaker 6: which if they're successful on that, that means more room

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Well, and here's here's what I'll say. So that that

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Speaker 3: that it was like at least one trillion times more

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Speaker 2: She said that twice, one trillion and then and that's

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Speaker 6: It's more than a trillion, because that's where they cap it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah exact people don't know what octilian is. Yeah, exactly so.

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Speaker 3: But the whole thing is, you know, I get if

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome everybody.

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Speaker 3: The uh preliminary hearing in the city of Utah versus

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Speaker 3: is Steve Dace. You know him from the Steve Day

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Speaker 2: Steve, welcome.

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Speaker 3: We've got a lot of little details here to wrap up,

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Speaker 3: Our family is grateful for the prayer, support, and kindness

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Speaker 3: Steve, your thoughts on balancing Judge Grafts balancing Act of

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Speaker 10: of how high profile this is. This is the most

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Speaker 10: high profile martyring in America, at least since the summer

440
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Speaker 10: of sixty eight when you had RFK and then MLK

441
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Speaker 10: that spring. This is the most viewed murder in all

442
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Speaker 10: of human history. And so therefore, and then the unprecedented

443
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Speaker 10: cottage industry of wackadoodal conspiracy theories that have come up

444
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Speaker 10: surrounding it over the last several months, that he is

445
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Speaker 10: trying to do everything he can to make sure this

446
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Speaker 10: case is open and shut and doesn't give an obvious

447
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Speaker 10: room for appeal, and is trying to do everything again

448
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Speaker 10: to make sure that all eyes are dotted and all

449
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Speaker 10: teaser crossed, and then maybe hoping that this may never

450
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Speaker 10: go to trial, that with the amount of time that

451
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Speaker 10: all this evidence has mounted and been simmering. I think

452
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Speaker 10: that you have watched within within our movement in industry

453
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Speaker 10: over the last seventy two hours, there have been a

454
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Speaker 10: lot of people jumping or turning around and saying, to

455
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Speaker 10: a lot of the the wack adoudal conspiracy theorists, you know,

456
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Speaker 10: this just is we're off the reservation here. We shouldn't

457
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Speaker 10: have let it get to this far, and to this juncture,

458
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Speaker 10: you guys are essentially essentially of excommunicated yourselves. And so

459
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Speaker 10: maybe he's hoping that with this amount of evidence out there,

460
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Speaker 10: that that might proclude, maybe motivate the Tyler Robinson folks

461
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Speaker 10: to take a plea deal to avoid a trial living

462
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Speaker 10: through all this evidence all over again, and and we

463
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Speaker 10: can now just say justice was done and moved out

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Speaker 10: and move on. But those are the only two things,

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Speaker 10: and I'm projecting in both of those, those are the

466
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Speaker 10: only two things I could find for any rationale for

467
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Speaker 10: this length of time to get to the point of

468
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Speaker 10: even declaring probable cause, especially when you're looking at the

469
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Speaker 10: amount of open and shut evidence there is. You know,

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Speaker 10: I was I was watching today when the defense attorneys

471
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Speaker 10: were attempting five different ways to ask a question that

472
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Speaker 10: was inadmissible and kept getting sustained and thrown out, to

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Speaker 10: try and question the DNA sequencing of their own witness.

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Speaker 10: And if you're trying to, if that's where you're at

475
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Speaker 10: in your defense, you're trying to you're trying to frame

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Speaker 10: your own witness to the point that you're getting frequent

477
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Speaker 10: objections against your own your own questions. At that point,

478
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Speaker 10: then I think you can see the shaky ground the

479
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Speaker 10: defense is on here because of just how overwhelming this

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Speaker 10: evidence is.

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Speaker 3: You're one thousand percent right here, And that was my

482
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Speaker 3: big takeaway. There wasn't much activity in the courtroom today

483
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Speaker 3: as far as new evidence, but the one witness that

484
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Speaker 3: was called forward by the defense ended up making great

485
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Speaker 3: points for the state. And we have a couple of

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Speaker 3: these clips. We'll play one of them. It's about as

487
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Speaker 3: an ATF DNA section chief, right, and so she again,

488
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Speaker 3: this is the defense's witness. When the state gets up

489
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Speaker 3: and cross examined examines her, this is what they get.

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Speaker 11: Tot Seven, What was your conclusion as to the likelihood

491
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Speaker 11: ratio that you analyzed in this question.

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Speaker 12: In calculation number three for this exhibit, the DNA profile

493
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Speaker 12: was at least one trillion times more likely if it

494
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Speaker 12: originated from Tyler Robinson as the major component and three

495
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Speaker 12: unknown unrelated individuals than if it originated from four unrelated individuals.

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Speaker 11: You say at least one trillion times more likely, So

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Speaker 11: it could be a much higher number than one trillion.

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Speaker 2: Is that accurate?

499
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Speaker 11: It's possible, But the protocols in your laboratory say you

500
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Speaker 11: cap that at the number one trillion.

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Speaker 7: Is that right?

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Speaker 13: Correct?

503
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Speaker 12: We would not report a number higher than one trillion.

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Speaker 11: It looks like you also did a probability statistic as

505
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Speaker 11: well in paragraph e.

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Speaker 12: The probability of an unrelated individual in the population who

507
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Speaker 12: has not contributed DNA to the sample yielding this level

508
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Speaker 12: of support is less than one in a trillion.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so that's the defense's star witness that just linked

510
00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 3: evidence to Tyler Robinson won in a trillion. But that's

511
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Speaker 3: where they cap it, So it could have been much

512
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Speaker 3: I mean, we were hearing act.

513
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Speaker 6: And yeah, Trilia just camp it out at one in

514
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Speaker 6: the number of cells in your body, I think.

515
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Speaker 3: And by the way, I was getting bombarded with texts, Steve,

516
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Speaker 3: from people that are in the legal profession, former prosecutors,

517
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Speaker 3: all this kind of stuff unrelated to the case. But

518
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Speaker 3: they're watching it, right, and they just kept the same

519
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 3: guy that's doing all the forensic you know, examine a

520
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Speaker 3: witness questioning on behalf of the defense is really hard

521
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Speaker 3: to listen to, Like your eyes glass over. It is

522
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Speaker 3: completely not fun to watch, right, This is not riveting TV.

523
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Speaker 3: And I think that's the point. But it's they kept

524
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Speaker 3: making the point that it is really going to turn

525
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Speaker 3: a jury off and it's going to exasperate the judge.

526
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Speaker 3: It's not a good winning strategy here, so that's the

527
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Speaker 3: defense's best shot. Okay, Now let's go back to what

528
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Speaker 3: you just said about the plea deal. And this is

529
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Speaker 3: I think actually a little bit more interesting here because

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Speaker 3: during the course of the week you saw the defense

531
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Speaker 3: fighting tooth and nail to keep out what are called enhancements.

532
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Speaker 3: Enhancements are legally important because that's what justifies a death

533
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Speaker 3: penalty in a case like this, right, so if you

534
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Speaker 3: can put an enhancement in Blake, actually you know this

535
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Speaker 3: pretty well because you know the case.

536
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Speaker 7: Well, yes, it's just you need.

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Speaker 6: Unfortunately, our glorious Supreme Court, in one of its slightly

538
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Speaker 6: more liberal eras, said that you can't just have the

539
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Speaker 6: death penalty as a default penalty for murder.

540
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Speaker 7: You need these enhancements.

541
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Speaker 6: There needs to be an aggravating factor, and so we

542
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Speaker 6: need something to be sustained. We need it to be

543
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Speaker 6: a politically motivated crime. We need to potentially be a

544
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Speaker 6: crime that endangers miners. That's another way they can go

545
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Speaker 6: for it. They have a few different ways they can

546
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Speaker 6: get it, but by far the most likely is that

547
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Speaker 6: he was motivated to target Charlie. I think that they're

548
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Speaker 6: going a lot for that because of Charlie's religion, because

549
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Speaker 6: then it's basically a religiously motivated hate crime enhancement.

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Speaker 2: That they could go for. So you see them fighting

551
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Speaker 2: for that.

552
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Speaker 3: But the judge ultimately allows the exhibit from David Engelhart,

553
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Speaker 3: who's one of the board members, explaining the mission of

554
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Speaker 3: Turning Point and explaining how deeply integrated Charlie's Christian faith

555
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Speaker 3: was to some of his positions, say on the trans issue,

556
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Speaker 3: or on genders and sex right, So that ended up

557
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Speaker 3: getting admitted into evidence.

558
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Speaker 2: Right.

559
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Speaker 3: Not only that, but you had the political motivations in

560
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Speaker 3: the text messages where it says some hate just can't

561
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Speaker 3: be negotiated out.

562
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Speaker 2: I had enough of his hate.

563
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Speaker 3: Then you also had the bullet engravings, which had Belichow,

564
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Speaker 3: which is a famous anti fascist song from Italy back

565
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Speaker 3: in the nineteen forties. You had hey fascist catch. There

566
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Speaker 3: are multiple pieces of that puzzle that explained the why,

567
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Speaker 3: and so I don't understand what leg they're going to

568
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Speaker 3: have to stand on. But the point is if they

569
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Speaker 3: were able to successfully argue against some of those enhancements

570
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Speaker 3: or those pieces of evidence that would lead to the enhancements,

571
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Speaker 3: you know, from being admitted as evidence, maybe that changes

572
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Speaker 3: their plea calculation.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I think at this point, if they weren't thinking

574
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Speaker 10: this going in, I have to believe after the week

575
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Speaker 10: that they just endured. As counsel Tyler's defense, their main

576
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Speaker 10: role at this point is just saving his life. I mean,

577
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Speaker 10: the evidence here is pretty overwhelming, and so that's probably

578
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Speaker 10: all this about is about, or at least it's a

579
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Speaker 10: prime directive is saving his life. And you know there's

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Speaker 10: a balance here in that on one hand, we want

581
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Speaker 10: him to have this kind of vigorous defense, We want

582
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Speaker 10: him to have this kind of detailed defense. He has

583
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Speaker 10: real attorneys, folks that have represented people like the Menendez brothers.

584
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Speaker 10: These aren't just you know, public defenders appointed by the

585
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Speaker 10: court for some lowly soul who couldn't afford, couldn't afford otherwise,

586
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Speaker 10: you want him to be to be scrutinized under a

587
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 10: rigorous defense on his behalf, because again, how important this

588
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 10: case is, the precedent that is being set here, and

589
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 10: how precedent setting this senseless tragedy and assassination was. And

590
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Speaker 10: so want you want everyone turned over, You want everything

591
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Speaker 10: explored so that no one has left to remain. I'm

592
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Speaker 10: just asking clet Sins for another nine or ten months

593
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Speaker 10: of a grift. We want to have all that stuff

594
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Speaker 10: exhausted and thrown out there. But there's a line between that,

595
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Speaker 10: which does serve the system we have. Whether we like

596
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Speaker 10: it or not, it is the system we have. There's

597
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 10: a line there somewhere between that and now we're just

598
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Speaker 10: exasperating people and exhausting this and we're delaying justice for

599
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Speaker 10: a family here when the evidence is pretty overwhelming. And

600
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Speaker 10: so I think we can certainly say, after five days

601
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Speaker 10: of this this week that this evidence is pretty overwhelming

602
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 10: and if maybe at the start of this week with

603
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Speaker 10: a hearing that was already delayed by two months. Anyway,

604
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Speaker 10: it was supposed, as you guys know in your audience knows,

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Speaker 10: to take place in May. So we've already delayed it

606
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Speaker 10: by a couple of months already to get here to July.

607
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Speaker 10: Now you're talking about delaying in another couple of months

608
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Speaker 10: just to get to really the first key official juncture

609
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Speaker 10: of a declarative judgment one way or another. I think

610
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Speaker 10: we are if we're not close to, if we're not

611
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Speaker 10: at least close to the line of we're going from

612
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Speaker 10: conscientiousness here to exasperation.

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Speaker 13: I think we've already crossed it.

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Speaker 3: I think that's that's such a great framing, Steve, exasperation.

615
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Speaker 2: But we do. Yeah, okay, yeah, Hank, Hank Tight.

616
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Speaker 3: I've got I've got some stuff I really want to share.

617
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Speaker 3: But Blake gave we.

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Speaker 7: Want to be absolutely certain.

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Speaker 2: I want to be absolutely certain.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So just Hank tight, Blake, why don't you the

621
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Speaker 3: biggest piece of evidence you saw that that was admitted

622
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Speaker 3: in court for the public viewing?

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Speaker 2: What was it? What would you say it was?

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Speaker 6: There was a lot, thankfully, as we can say, I

625
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 6: think uh, I think we go back to the thing

626
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Speaker 6: that the defense was most eager to move past.

627
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 2: That.

628
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Speaker 6: We have Lance Twigs on camera. He says, yep, I

629
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Speaker 6: received these text messages from Tyler Robinson.

630
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Speaker 7: I'm the guy who did it. He says, check for

631
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Speaker 7: this note.

632
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Speaker 6: We we saw more detail of that conversation than we

633
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Speaker 6: saw before, or we we actually have Tyler, you know, say,

634
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Speaker 6: f I thought I deleted this. He seems to have

635
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 6: mistaken basically mistakenly wroped Lance Twigs in he details trying

636
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Speaker 6: to retrieve his rifle. We have the description of the note,

637
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 6: we were mistakenly shown an image of that note. We

638
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:20,240
Speaker 6: see the burned version of that note. We see Lance Twiggs.

639
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 6: We heard Lance Twiggs say he confessed to me in person, crying,

640
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Speaker 6: saying he didn't want to do it, or he wishes

641
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Speaker 6: he hadn't done it. And I think that, in concert

642
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 6: with the physical evidence we have, just makes it absolutely overwhelming,

643
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Speaker 6: and people will fixate on whether they have one hundred

644
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 6: you know, can they match this bullet to the exact

645
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 6: gun or is it only the same category? That is

646
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 6: so beside the point when all evidence you have supports

647
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 6: the claim that Tyler Robinson did it. And when you

648
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Speaker 6: have direct confession to it, it's it truly is overwhelming.

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Speaker 6: It almost feels it almost feels like we're being toyed

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Speaker 6: with or something that this is even up for debate.

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Speaker 3: To me, all right, so I'm just getting I'm just

652
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 3: getting some breaking here right now. And I think we uh,

653
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 3: this is public it's public domain. This is from Heidi Hatch,

654
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Speaker 3: ku TV reporter, so she says, and we're pulling this video.

655
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Speaker 3: But after the defense final DNA witness, the court allowed

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Speaker 3: the family to watch the zoomed in surveillance video from

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Speaker 3: Utah Valley University. Okay, remember a little bit rewind the

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Speaker 3: tape here. There was a huge rigormarole about the enhanced video. Right,

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Speaker 3: So this is zoom zoomed in and it's it's the

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Speaker 3: quality I'm I'm being told is except like it's surprisingly high.

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Speaker 3: And this they called it the Joe John Madden kind

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Speaker 3: of style video because you know, I think they circle

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Speaker 3: it and they zoom in, they draw your eye to

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Speaker 3: kind of wear Tyler's walking around on campus, she said.

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Speaker 3: Heidi Hatch says, even zoomed in the quality of the

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Speaker 3: video is surprisingly high because remember there's press in the

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Speaker 3: courtroom that was able to watch this as well.

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Speaker 2: It just wasn't broadcast to the public.

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Speaker 3: You could see the man on the roof reportedly, this

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Speaker 3: is her words, reportedly Tyler Robinson getting down into that

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Speaker 3: wine or prone position before the shot was fired. The

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Speaker 3: video showing Robinson allegedly returning to campus with jeans on

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Speaker 3: shows that very distinct limp with the rifle likely in

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Speaker 3: the leg of his pants. You apparently can see things.

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Speaker 6: We have another source someone he was able to see it.

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Speaker 6: He says, you see the person that we believe is

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Speaker 6: Tyler Robinson. You can see them go over the guardrail,

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Speaker 6: crouch down to assemble the rifle, run across the roof,

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Speaker 6: crouch down, take the shot.

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Speaker 3: At the time we know the shot happened at twelve

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Speaker 3: twenty three, twenty eight. So you see this person roll

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Speaker 3: over the sort of railing or whatever that was to

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Speaker 3: there in Salt Lake City. She says heartbreaking to watch

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Speaker 3: Erica Kirk and Charlie's parents as they watched in greater

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Speaker 3: detail these final moments before Charlie was shot and killed

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Speaker 2: So.

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Speaker 7: And it looks like they also.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: In the enhanced video, it makes it more clear.

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Speaker 6: The limp is he has a rifle shaped object in

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Speaker 6: his pants. It seems they're able to zoom in and

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Speaker 6: that that make.

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Speaker 3: That Another reporter actually just just reached out to me

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Speaker 3: and said, the enhanced surveillance video, Jeff Nyman, the Kirk

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Speaker 3: family representative, got the court to play at the end,

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Speaker 3: was the quote single most damning piece of evidence in

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Speaker 7: We saw a lot of evidence.

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Speaker 3: We saw a lot of damning evidence. And for an

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Speaker 3: independent reporter to say that to me is yeah, and

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Speaker 3: I hope these journalists write about it. And actually, I

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Speaker 3: think we might be getting Jack Pasovich.

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Speaker 2: He might be joining just.

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Speaker 3: To describe what he saw, because I believe he was

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Speaker 3: inside the courtroom. Steve, I don't know if you have

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Speaker 3: any thoughts on that, but my instant reaction is I

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Speaker 3: can't imagine what Erica and Rob and Kathy must have

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Speaker 3: been feeling to see it in that vivid detail. You know,

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Speaker 3: most people, most murder cases, and this is what's so

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Speaker 3: funny about the internet. The Internet's like, well, you can't

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Speaker 3: see his face and his blurry Most murder convictions happen

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Speaker 3: without video of the actual In this instance, we have

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Speaker 3: this luxury of hours of footage watching him meander around

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Speaker 3: campus and case it out.

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Speaker 2: I just can't imagine.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, we've had, by comparison, we've had murder

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Speaker 6: convictions of people who were who were definitely guilty, where

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Speaker 6: they don't have a body. Yeah, and you we don't

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Speaker 6: have a body, we don't have a murder weapon. You

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Speaker 6: just have overwhelming, contextual, circumstantial evidence. And here we have that,

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Speaker 6: and we also have the parents turn the video the confession.

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Speaker 3: Just yeah, I Steve, please first react to just the

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Speaker 3: emotional impact of that moment for the Kirk family.

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Speaker 10: I I don't know how the judge can possibly watch

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Speaker 10: the family go through witnessing that and then say, but

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Speaker 10: we're gonna we're gonna hold you off here for about

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Speaker 10: two more months to try to get the first phase

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Speaker 10: of closure.

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Speaker 13: I just.

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Speaker 10: I like, again, like I said a few minutes ago,

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Speaker 10: there's a line somewhere between conscientiousness and exasperation. And I

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Speaker 10: said that before you told me about this video guys,

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Speaker 10: and now with this video, we're we're not we're way

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Speaker 10: over that line, Like that line is not even We're

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Speaker 10: so far past it now that it's not even in

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Speaker 10: the rearview mirror at this point. Like the judge has

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Speaker 10: already amended himself before when he knew he was wrong,

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Speaker 10: he needs to amend himself again. And it's it's just

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Speaker 10: very clear here that the Kirk family has deserved at

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Speaker 10: least stage one of closure as soon as absolutely possible.

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Speaker 13: Here.

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Speaker 10: As for the skeptics and stuff online, again, I've never

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Speaker 10: I don't ever have a problem with people asking questions

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Speaker 10: about anything. My issue is is and a lot of

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Speaker 10: our institutions, and I know the three of us agree

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Speaker 10: with this. A lot of our institutions are deserving and

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Speaker 10: have worked hard to earn all this skepticism that has

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Speaker 10: been pent up over.

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Speaker 13: The last few years. For sure, the question is where

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Speaker 13: do we go?

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Speaker 10: Answers right, And it would be one thing if these

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Speaker 10: people were just going to, you know, question the official narrative.

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Speaker 10: The other thing to try to shift the guilt of

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Speaker 10: this crime, even to Charlie's widow herself, even as this

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Speaker 10: and to try to hold on to these narratives. As

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Speaker 10: this evidence mounts, it's just particularly reprehensible and despicable and

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Speaker 10: just wicked and evil. I'd say that secondly as well.

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Speaker 10: And then thirdly, I think we have a real teachable

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Speaker 10: moment here just for all of us that do this

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Speaker 10: for a living, and that is when we have events,

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Speaker 10: when there's going to be things like trials, there's going

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Speaker 10: to be things like hearings, Evidence is going to be presented.

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Speaker 10: You know, we don't really have to all be in

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Speaker 10: a hurry to be wrong. You know, there's going to

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Speaker 10: be a process and it's going to be somewhat transparent,

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Speaker 10: and we're going to get answers, and you don't have

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Speaker 10: to look like a clown. When it's all over, you

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Speaker 10: can just say, you know what, I kind of just

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Speaker 10: want to wait and see what the evidence says, says.

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Speaker 10: I saw Don Junior say that the other day after

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Speaker 10: leaving the courtroom with Erica. It just was very clear,

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Speaker 10: he said, now looking at the evidence, that it was

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Speaker 10: very clear that Tyler Robinson is absolutely guilty.

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Speaker 13: It's okay.

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Speaker 10: It's okay to not know everything, to not have an

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Speaker 10: immediate take on everything, and to just let processes play

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Speaker 10: itself out. Particularly something that is as personal and as

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Speaker 10: tragic as this particular circumstance.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna play this local news reporter Heidi hatch Her

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Speaker 3: recounting of this video sop thirty three.

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Speaker 14: The Tyler Robinson hearing has adjourned for the day and

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Speaker 14: for the entire hearing, the defense finished with their final

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Speaker 14: DNA witness from the ATF. After that, the judge allowed

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Speaker 14: the family to view without it being broadcast, the zoomed

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Speaker 14: in surveillance video from Utah Valley University. The quality was

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Speaker 14: surprisingly high, a lot more detail you could see of

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Speaker 14: the man that is reportedly Tyler Robinson making his way

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Speaker 14: through campus, up and down the stairs into the parking garage,

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Speaker 14: and even zoomed in on the roof where you can

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Speaker 14: see the man who is reportedly Robinson lying down into

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Speaker 14: that prome position for the shots were fired. As that

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Speaker 14: came up on that video that zoomed in video, Erica

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Speaker 14: Kirk breaking down in tears, as well as Catherine, her

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Speaker 14: mother in law, Charlie's mother clinging to each other, hugging

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Speaker 14: each other as that video played out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so.

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Speaker 7: That's tough.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think about the time stamp to Steve,

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Speaker 3: you know, just the just knowing that moment twelve twenty three,

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Speaker 3: thirty eight, I don't, I don't know, I avoid.

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Speaker 2: Twenty eight eight, it's just it.

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Speaker 3: Anyways, I think we're gonna have Jack join us and

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Speaker 3: kind of walk through what what he what he saw,

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Speaker 3: So we'll wait for him to to join. I want

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Speaker 3: to go back to what you said, Steveville, because I

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Speaker 3: think it was an important point, and that is, you know,

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Speaker 3: you don't have to rush ahead just to be wrong.

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Speaker 3: You know, I was really moved by that. It's that

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Speaker 3: statement from Don Junior this week. You know, he said

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Speaker 3: he went on Fox News and he said, you know,

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Speaker 3: I've taken you know, a lot of incoming because I

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Speaker 3: haven't been more vocal. Well now I've seen it, and

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Speaker 3: you know, like you said, the evidence is compelling, it's overwhelming.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of people that have used that word overwhelming.

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Speaker 3: We're not telling them to use it. I think it's

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Speaker 3: just the word that comes to mind for a lot

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Speaker 3: of people when they see all of this together. What

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Speaker 3: is the right path forward with people. I'm already seeing

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Speaker 3: some of these comments come out about you know, hey,

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Speaker 3: I drank the kool aid and I regret that you know,

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Speaker 3: people are starting to little by little, and I think

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Speaker 3: it's I think we're going to see more of this,

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Speaker 3: you know, sort of admit that they had it wrong.

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Speaker 2: What what should what should be our path forward?

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Speaker 10: Well, all three of us represent a worldview that makes

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Speaker 10: it very clear that mercy triumphs over judgment. Now, it

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Speaker 10: doesn't cancel judgment, otherwise there will be no such place

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Speaker 10: as hell. So eventually there is a judgment. But but

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Speaker 10: all of us are deserving of it. None of us

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Speaker 10: are deserving of mercy. And that's why it's called grace.

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Speaker 10: So I think that for those who have who sincerely

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Speaker 10: want to come forward, sincerely want to apologize, sincerely want

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Speaker 10: to repent first and foremost apologize to Erica in the

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Speaker 10: entire family, I think that you know, they deserve an

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Speaker 10: honest hearing in terms of that, the the integrity and

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Speaker 10: the sincerity of that apology, uh and that repentance. Therefore,

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Speaker 10: by the grace of God, go I forgive us our trespass,

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Speaker 10: as Lord, as we forgive those who trespass against us.

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Speaker 10: But I also but here's the thing. Forgiveness and trust

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Speaker 10: there's quite a few people whose trust level through this.

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Speaker 10: I really believe both Charlie's murder and the aftermath of

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Speaker 10: it was the latest in a series of providential siftings

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Speaker 10: that have taken place in our culture. And I think

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Speaker 10: too many people failed this one. And I think this

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Speaker 10: is where humility has to come into play. You know,

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Speaker 10: the arrogance. There's a reason why narcissism was the first

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Speaker 10: heresy in the history of our species, because it appeals

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Speaker 10: to our vanity, and it appeals to our narcissism and

875
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 10: our egos, and the idea that you have the secret knowledge,

876
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 10: that you have the secret sauce, that you know the

877
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 10: stuff that nobody else knows. You even't speak in code.

878
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 10: You use terms like Zionist and fed slop, like their

879
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 10: conjunctions and sentences, right, you know, the secret handshake. This

880
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 10: stuff absolutely appeals to our vanity and our narcissism, and

881
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:46,799
Speaker 10: these devices right here in our hands. You know, thirty

882
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 10: years ago, when you saw the tabloid in the supermarket,

883
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:50,720
Speaker 10: you might have picked.

884
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 13: It up and looked at it at a fascination.

885
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 10: But then when you saw the frowns of everybody in

886
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 10: the checkout line next to you, you just kind of

887
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 10: smiled nervously and said, can you believe this stuff? And

888
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:00,040
Speaker 10: put it on the counter and walked away. Because we

889
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 10: were worried about the public shame of indulging in that.

890
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,399
Speaker 10: But this now takes that element away, and we can

891
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 10: all be anonymous and we can all do this a

892
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 10: million times. And now captains of industry who would never

893
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 10: even pick up such materials in a supermarket to check

894
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 10: out Lane thirty years ago are now it's seven pages

895
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 10: deep into a Reddit form, you know, on a break

896
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 10: they didn't have scheduled, and an appointment they had to

897
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 10: put off because they can't tear themselves away. And I

898
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 10: think that this was a very painful lesson that I

899
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 10: hope a lot of people learned. And then I think

900
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 10: that you're watching other people just flat out just demonstrate

901
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 10: frankly that they're just demonic and satanic influences, and I

902
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 10: think got to be treated as such.

903
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 13: Moving forward, Well, we have a.

904
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 2: Couple of these examples.

905
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 3: Steve, go up, go ahead and throw up the first

906
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 3: one that that somebody sent me this but says, I

907
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 3: would like to admit I drank some of the Candace

908
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 3: kool aid, and now I feel so gutted forever believing

909
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 3: Erica had anything.

910
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 2: To do with it.

911
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 3: And there's actually a second one here that I just

912
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:07,359
Speaker 3: found if I can get it loaded here for us. Oh,

913
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:09,319
Speaker 3: never mind, that's that that's the wrong one there. I

914
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 3: just somebody sent me another one, but I put it

915
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 3: in the wrong plot.

916
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 6: I think, I think what you said is really good, Steve,

917
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 6: And we have to we have to acknowledge a lot

918
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 6: of people are very open to unconventional stuff.

919
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 7: We live in a low trust time when trust.

920
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 6: And authorities and institutions is lower, and that makes stranger

921
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 6: ideas more appealing. People like to do their own research

922
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 6: and such. But we have to acknowledge that there's there's

923
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 6: room for people to come back on side. There's a

924
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 6: room for people to say I goofed it up. But

925
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 6: I do think we need some perspective that we have.

926
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 6: If you're a if you're a voice, if you have

927
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 6: a platform, you have a moral obligation to show good leadership.

928
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 6: And I think there will be people who will try

929
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 6: to just sort of quietly move on from this. They

930
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:00,080
Speaker 6: only be stopped talking. Maybe they were pushing this and

931
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:02,799
Speaker 6: they'll just quietly stop talking about it, or they'll just

932
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 6: make a brief up. I was wrong, and I really

933
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 6: do think that the evidence in this case was so

934
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:15,799
Speaker 6: clear for so long and so all encompassing that if

935
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,279
Speaker 6: a person is who had a platform is going to

936
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 6: come back, I think there has to be some expectation

937
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 6: of not merely acknowledging that they were incorrect.

938
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:26,319
Speaker 7: But I think they have, as you.

939
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 6: Say, they have to apologize and say I was not

940
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 6: just wrong.

941
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:33,840
Speaker 7: I made a error. I did something. I did something.

942
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 6: I think I made a moral mistake and going this

943
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 6: far down and I have to try to atone for that,

944
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 6: and that might be I have to acknowledge I maybe

945
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:47,360
Speaker 6: am not a platform that someone can trust unless I

946
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 6: really put an effort to undo this.

947
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 3: Well, but I think this has an opportunity to be

948
00:50:52,800 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 3: another piece of Charlie's legacy because I throughout this other one,

949
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 3: I watched several of Candas's podcasts. I was one of

950
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 3: the people who believed Israel was somehow involved. It was

951
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 3: extremely convincing, and I do not blame anyone for believing it,

952
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:14,280
Speaker 3: as I did lesson learned to wait for actual evidence.

953
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 3: I will never make this mistake again. I regret it,

954
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 3: and I stand with Erica like these are just starting

955
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 3: to pop up on social media right now, and you know,

956
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 3: so I think if we as a movement can build

957
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 3: up antibodies to some of this, I think that would

958
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 3: be really positive. And I have people have my sympathies.

959
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 3: I have entertained conspiracy theories, certainly, And why wouldn't I

960
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:42,279
Speaker 3: After COVID, after the Hunter Biden laptop, after all this

961
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 3: crap that's been stuffed down our throats. I totally understand

962
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:52,240
Speaker 3: that sometimes, you know, giving proper scrutiny to an official

963
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 3: narrative is the right position to take, But there is

964
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 3: a far difference. There's a huge difference between that and

965
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 3: then take turning round and recklessly accusing innocent people of

966
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:08,840
Speaker 3: wrongdoing of heinous, heinous evil acts when the evidence is

967
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:11,279
Speaker 3: right in front of you. And so I think one

968
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 3: of the drum beats of this is what is the evidence?

969
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 2: Where is the proof?

970
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:18,799
Speaker 3: If you can't prove it, it's not enough to go

971
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 3: off vibes and like speculation and innuendo.

972
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 2: You cannot do that.

973
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 3: That's no healthy society can operate and exist in that framework.

974
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 13: Ten thousand percent.

975
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 10: Listen, Christianity is not the endless asking of questions in fact,

976
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 10: the first time the enemy shows up and speaks in

977
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 10: prophetic history, he uses the following phrase.

978
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 13: Did God really say?

979
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 10: That's literally his that's his line, that's his pickup line

980
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 10: to Eve, did God really say?

981
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:46,400
Speaker 13: Okay?

982
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 10: So we're not into we're not into the endless asking

983
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 10: of questions. We're into the ceaseless seeking of answers, all right,

984
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 10: So our worldview says to ask, seek, and knock to

985
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 10: get answers, to get answers. I couldn't tell I can't

986
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:00,919
Speaker 10: tell you how many emails I got to my own show.

987
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 10: I can't believe, Steve, you would believe the official narrative

988
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:05,799
Speaker 10: and everything else on this and every one of them

989
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 10: I try to write them back. Guys, there's going to

990
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 10: be hearings, there's going to be a trial, we're gonna

991
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:12,799
Speaker 10: see the evidence. Why don't we just let it play

992
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:14,880
Speaker 10: itself out so that we know. And I didn't begrudge

993
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:17,359
Speaker 10: anybody who didn't want to believe anything until I got

994
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 10: to court, where I got really pretty pushy in the

995
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 10: pushback is when now you've got alternative theories based on

996
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 10: absolutely nothing that are just clear biblical violating clear biblical

997
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:31,799
Speaker 10: mandates against the tormenting of widows and what's went on

998
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 10: here with Erica for the last six eight months. It's

999
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 10: the most wicked and vile thing I've seen in my

1000
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:39,280
Speaker 10: entire lifetime. I mean, it's just literally a main line

1001
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 10: from Hell itself. It's just wicked. It's just it's unnatural, really,

1002
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 10: is what it was.

1003
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 1: Like.

1004
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:46,880
Speaker 10: I felt bad being in the presence of it, Like

1005
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:49,880
Speaker 10: it made my skin crawl, Like I shouldn't be listening

1006
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 10: to this, I shouldn't be watching it. I shouldn't be

1007
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:54,799
Speaker 10: subjected to this. I should turn away. That's how just

1008
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 10: pure pitch black.

1009
00:53:56,120 --> 00:54:00,879
Speaker 3: This is wow, wow, really well, said somebody this week

1010
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 3: told me, And it was one of those one liners

1011
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 3: that kind of like, you know, stops you in your tracks,

1012
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 3: and just said, Erica Kirk is the most defamed person

1013
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 3: in human history.

1014
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 10: She's certainly on a list. She's certainly maybe the most

1015
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 10: the most defamed person in the history of the English

1016
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 10: speaking world. What's been on and for what? For being

1017
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 10: the dutiful wife of the of the of you know,

1018
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 10: the most high profile martyr in the history of our world.

1019
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 10: This is the most viewed murder in the history of

1020
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 10: our world. But there's a missing piece here. I want

1021
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:36,440
Speaker 10: to make sure we hit this all transpired, I believe

1022
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 10: because of what happened after Charlie's murder, and that is

1023
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 10: the most viewed proclamation of the Gospel that this world

1024
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 10: has ever seen. And that's the first time in all

1025
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 10: my years, in my twenty three years, walking with the

1026
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 10: Lord walking coming out of that memorial was the first

1027
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 10: time I thought there was a real chance we might

1028
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 10: be able to unite around first Principles as believers. And

1029
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 10: so I don't think it's a coincidence at all that

1030
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:02,759
Speaker 10: the enemy said, oh, can't let that happen, and mobilized

1031
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 10: as fast as he could. Like I mentioned Don Junior

1032
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 10: recently or earlier here on this talk, I'd be willing

1033
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:10,320
Speaker 10: to bet you that Don Junior told more people about

1034
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:12,760
Speaker 10: who Saint Stephen was than they've heard in the American

1035
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 10: Church anywhere, Catholic or Protestant the last thirty years. I'd

1036
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 10: be willing to bet you all the more church, more

1037
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 10: people came out of that with more church and more

1038
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 10: Bible than they have any singular event in the history

1039
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 10: of this hemisphere. That was like every George Whitfield and

1040
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 10: Jonathan Edwards's revival and sermon in in one afternoon, and

1041
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:32,440
Speaker 10: I don't think it's any coincidence that coming after that then,

1042
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:35,279
Speaker 10: is when the enemy marshaled his forces, particularly once he

1043
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:38,360
Speaker 10: had strategically placed, and let them loose right at that

1044
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:40,880
Speaker 10: time to try to knife this and divide us. And

1045
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 10: I think, moving forward, two things I think we have

1046
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:46,840
Speaker 10: to learn. One skepticism. We do need to remain skeptical

1047
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 10: of things. I mean, as far as I know, I'm

1048
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:51,360
Speaker 10: the only person that wrote two best selling books debunking

1049
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 10: the COVID narrative. But here's the thing. I didn't offer

1050
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:58,319
Speaker 10: alternative theories or projections. I interviewed witnesses, I looked at

1051
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 10: data and facts. I didn't just wing it, you know,

1052
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 10: because I didn't want to get sued by Anthony Fauci

1053
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 10: and everybody else, so I used often it was their

1054
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 10: own data against them, their own assumptions against them. And

1055
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:10,759
Speaker 10: I think this brings me to point two.

1056
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:13,760
Speaker 13: There's a thing. There's cynicism, which is against a biblical worldview.

1057
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 10: If you're if your worldview begins with the premise that

1058
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:19,359
Speaker 10: God supernaturally intervened in human history to raise a dead

1059
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 10: man to life, then cynicism is not permitted for the believer.

1060
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 10: But there's healthy skepticism. There's healthy skepticism when you are

1061
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 10: in the age of the judges like we are now,

1062
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 10: when everyone does what is wise in their own eyes.

1063
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 13: And so what is the difference here? How do we know? Well,

1064
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:33,879
Speaker 13: that gets me to the second point here.

1065
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:37,279
Speaker 10: When you start, you know, when you start purporting things

1066
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 10: that just don't line up with common sense.

1067
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 13: No, No, I don't think.

1068
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:43,840
Speaker 10: Nancy four two, one, five, seven, if that's even a

1069
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 10: real person. I don't think you care more about Charlie

1070
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 10: and what happened to him than his wife.

1071
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 13: No, I don't, or his mom or his dad. No,

1072
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:52,759
Speaker 13: I don't. I don't think you do.

1073
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 10: And no, I don't think Candice Owans thinks and cares

1074
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 10: more about Tyler Robinson's fate and his potential innocence than

1075
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 10: every single member of his family and his high profile

1076
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 10: defense team.

1077
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:04,319
Speaker 13: No, I don't.

1078
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:06,880
Speaker 10: And I think when you're somebody like Sean Ryan and

1079
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:09,320
Speaker 10: you're asking questions of somebody like this a week before

1080
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 10: this proceeding, I think you need to ask questions like that, like, hey,

1081
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:13,799
Speaker 10: has the defense called you up?

1082
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 13: Have they shown any interest in what you have to say?

1083
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 10: Have you gone to Utah to offer you your profer

1084
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:21,760
Speaker 10: up your results, rather than just sitting there and providing

1085
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 10: affirmative platforms like this for just absolute raw sewage garbage.

1086
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 10: And I think when we are defying clear common sense,

1087
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 10: When you think you care more about the people involved

1088
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:36,440
Speaker 10: in this story than the people involved in the story,

1089
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 10: there's a pretty good it's pretty highly likely that you're

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Speaker 2: The team is sending me so many of these.

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Speaker 3: There is literally dozens of these types of messages of

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Speaker 3: people basically saying I was wrong. I used to be

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Speaker 3: into this, now I'm not.

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Speaker 6: It's so goofy to see this that Sean Strickland is

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Speaker 6: apologizing for it. And ye, Mma, fighter very much hates

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Speaker 6: Jewish people, Yeah, very much. Out there figure in a

1145
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Speaker 6: lot of ways. I don't even think he'd disagree, and

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Speaker 6: like he's seen the light before a lot of people

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Speaker 6: who ought to know better, I will say, And that's

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Speaker 6: what that's what pains me so much.

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Speaker 7: About this.

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Speaker 6: There's always going to people who believe weird things. We

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01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:44,400
Speaker 6: saw that during COVID. It wasn't enough to say, oh,

1152
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:47,960
Speaker 6: obviously they're fibbing to us about this, or that you

1153
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:52,400
Speaker 6: got really strange stuff about the virus being I think

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Speaker 6: probably the strangest one I ever heard was that it

1155
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:56,960
Speaker 6: was a theory that it was all snake venom. And

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Speaker 6: you're always have that. But people who have been in

1157
01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:06,640
Speaker 6: media long enough, who have been around news stories long enough,

1158
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:09,520
Speaker 6: should be able to put two and two together that

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Speaker 6: the evidence in this case adds up almost to the

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Speaker 6: point where this could be a clinic you would put

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Speaker 6: on in like a criminal justice laboratory to show all

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Speaker 6: the different types of evidence that can be available in

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Speaker 6: a case. Oh, here's your DNA evidence, here's your non

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Speaker 6: DNA forensic evidence, here's your witness testimony. You have basically

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Speaker 6: every single piece of evidence that could be obtained exists.

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Speaker 6: And if someone is going to take all of that

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Speaker 6: and say I reject all of it, I just think

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Speaker 6: it's all fake.

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Speaker 7: I'm not going to explain to you how it was faked.

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Speaker 6: I'm just gonna say it, and I'm going to assert

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Speaker 6: another completely wild theory that's mutually exclusive with the three

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Speaker 6: other theories that I'm going to run with, none of

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Speaker 6: which have any evidence that person is acting with ill will.

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Speaker 6: That person is willfully choosing to believe something that is

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Speaker 6: not true because it'll get them attention, it'll get them viewsed,

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Speaker 6: it'll get them clicks, it'll get them money, it will

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Speaker 6: allow them to hurt other people.

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Speaker 2: So we haven't like, that's not any different.

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Speaker 13: That's pardon me, I'm sorry, Go right.

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Speaker 2: And finish your thought, please, Steve.

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Speaker 10: I was just gonna say, Blake that the irony of

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Speaker 10: everything you just said is those same people would laugh

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Speaker 10: and mock those who virtue signaled with their VAX cards,

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Speaker 10: the Ukraine flags, their masks and their bios. They're just

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Speaker 10: the other side of the exact same coin as what

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Speaker 10: you just described. They're actually closer together. It really is

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Speaker 10: horseshoe theory. They're way closer together than I think they realize.

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Speaker 3: So we have this new video, I totally agree with that.

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Speaker 3: By the way, I think the team is loading it

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Speaker 3: right now. From Benny Johnson, he also had a chance

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Speaker 3: to look at this enhanced video.

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Speaker 2: We're getting more and more details here.

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Speaker 3: He said, every moment, every movement of Tyler Robinson that

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Speaker 3: day captured in full quality. HD zoomed in some footage

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Speaker 3: in four K tracking all his movements. You can see

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Speaker 3: crystal clear Tyler Robinson's face, the license plate number on

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Speaker 3: his vehicle. So that was another point of controversy with

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Speaker 3: some of this. The dodge charger there was apparently one

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Speaker 3: of the people in the houses with the ring camera

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Speaker 3: said they thought it was a bald person with three people.

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Speaker 3: But you know, instantly we sort of knew in the

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Speaker 3: whole scheme of all the mounting evidence that it was

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Speaker 3: probably just an eyewitness kind of got confused about it

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Speaker 3: because the ring camera had the actual stuff anyway.

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Speaker 6: So.

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Speaker 3: You could see the license plate on the vehicle, details

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Speaker 3: on his clothing, and his actions on the rooftop, and

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Speaker 3: you can time every horrifying detail to the minute Charlie

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Speaker 3: Kirk was murdered. What the public couldn't see was the

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Speaker 3: emotion in the courtroom, Charlie's family sobbing uncontrollably, Erica and

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Speaker 3: Missus Kirk's Senior's arms, Charlie's father comforting them. Just feet away,

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Speaker 3: sat a pale, lifeless, emaciated Tyler Robinson. I'm reading Benny's words,

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Speaker 3: who stared at the floor with remorse as he listened

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Speaker 3: to the weeping.

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Speaker 6: He says, Robinson has never once looked at Erica this

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Speaker 6: entire trial. The entire courtroom gasped when.

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Speaker 7: The video was over.

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Speaker 2: Eventually this footage will be released.

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Speaker 3: It was really tough to relive that day in such

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Speaker 3: gruesome detail. This case is overwhelming. Please pray for a

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Speaker 3: speedy trial. And to all the tormentors of the Kirk family,

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Speaker 3: you can go to hell where you belong. It's really

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Speaker 3: frustrating actually that they didn't release this footage to the public.

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Speaker 7: But well, we will get it eventually.

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Speaker 3: But I mean, it's good that, you know, Jeffrey Nyman

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Speaker 3: was successful in getting this viewed within the court. Erica

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Speaker 3: and her family completely deserved to see this, and you know,

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Speaker 3: I think jeff basically said for the sake of processing this.

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Speaker 3: You know, when he was making his comments to the judge,

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Speaker 3: he said, they deserve to see see this. They just like,

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Speaker 3: why are we here if if this isn't you know,

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Speaker 3: to actually see the evidence, And he said, they deserve

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Speaker 3: this so that they can process this moment properly.

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Speaker 2: And I'm so.

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Speaker 3: Heartbroken for them that they had to see that that

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Speaker 3: that that that that it even existed. But I'm grateful

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01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:25,920
Speaker 3: that they got to rip the band aid see it,

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01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:30,400
Speaker 3: and I think it's so important for processing this.

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Speaker 2: And so is there anything specific in that video? Up?

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to figure out Jack's gonna be joining us

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01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:44,360
Speaker 3: in just a second. He did see the video himself.

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Speaker 3: All right, Steve, you you are a very thoughtful man,

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01:05:56,520 --> 01:06:01,920
Speaker 3: and you understand the difference between pragmatism and and pure idealism,

1244
01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:04,320
Speaker 3: something you and I have talked about when it comes

1245
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Speaker 3: to politics. If we're going to rebuild this coalition the

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Speaker 3: way Charlie was doing it, what needs to happen next?

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Speaker 10: First, I would urge everyone within the sound of our

1248
01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:21,360
Speaker 10: voices to pray that the judge reconsiders putting this off

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Speaker 10: till September.

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Speaker 13: First. There's no reason why this can't be done on

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Speaker 13: August first.

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Speaker 10: It's still almost four weeks, three and a half weeks

1253
01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:32,920
Speaker 10: until then, because I think the sooner that we can

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Speaker 10: get something definitive on this and some closure for the family,

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Speaker 10: but then also for us as a movement, the sooner

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Speaker 10: we can go about.

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Speaker 13: Trying to answer these questions.

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Speaker 10: Because I think we're going to have a hard time

1259
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Speaker 10: answering that question until there's a more definitive outlook on

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Speaker 10: the outcome of this case. Then we'll just see you

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Speaker 10: again in two months.

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Speaker 3: I think some answer you just gave Steve, that's a

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Speaker 3: wild answer, because I agree with you that the the

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Speaker 3: fate of the movement that Charlie cared so much about,

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Speaker 3: that he was so instrumental in building is directly tied

1266
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Speaker 3: to closure in his assassination trial. Like, that's a wild

1267
01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:20,480
Speaker 3: thing to just even wrap your head around. Please, I

1268
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Speaker 3: didn't mean to cut you off, but I its no,

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Speaker 3: but yeah.

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Speaker 10: Because it's it's what's opened up the fissure of the

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Speaker 10: of what he was holding together is his death in

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Speaker 10: the aftermath of it. And I think the certainty of

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Speaker 10: of of what caused that death and then the outcome

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Speaker 10: for the for Tyler Robbinson, the one who committed to

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Speaker 10: that cause, I think that's the first step in letting

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Speaker 10: a lot of people you can already see just from

1277
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Speaker 10: the volume of notes you guys are getting in right

1278
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Speaker 10: now as an organization, as a show the amount of

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Speaker 10: people who are like coming in from like a fog,

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Speaker 10: you know, from like a spiritual malaise that clearing up.

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Speaker 13: Now, Yeah, that's a great analogy.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, like a spell has been broken here, right, And

1283
01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:04,400
Speaker 10: so I think that the spellcasters have got to be confronted.

1284
01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:08,000
Speaker 10: I think the spellcasters you got to find out who

1285
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Speaker 10: did so maliciously.

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Speaker 13: You know.

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Speaker 10: One of my favorite lines from Augustine is there are

1288
01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:15,360
Speaker 10: many sheep without, but many wolves within. And I think

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Speaker 10: one of the things that is that we've done to

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Speaker 10: Charlie posthumously. And I saw this after when Reagan passed

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Speaker 10: away as well, that you saw the more amicable, amicable Reagan.

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Speaker 10: You didn't see the rendezvous with Destiny Reagan. They didn't

1293
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Speaker 10: show a lot of those clips. This idea that the

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Speaker 10: guy went from you know, a lifeguard to President the

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Speaker 10: United States, just dropping quippie one liners all the way,

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Speaker 10: you know, and and being not a threat to any

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01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:42,519
Speaker 10: evil in the world whatsoever. And so there's this idea

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Speaker 10: that Charlie was just this kind of very gracious host

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Speaker 10: of these forums on you know, on these campuses, and

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01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:53,960
Speaker 10: wasn't a warrior, wasn't a general, he wasn't fierce, right

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Speaker 10: he needed to be.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, totally, Steve, We've got Jack Jack, Okay, got a

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Speaker 3: few moments here. I know we were wrestling with the

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Speaker 3: tech there. Jack Pasoba, Human Events Daily was there today, Jack, Uh,

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Speaker 3: you were in the courtroom for this viewing of this

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Speaker 3: this video that the enhanced video.

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Speaker 2: Tell us what you saw.

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Speaker 15: Look, guys, I'm I'm not gonna mince words, all right,

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Speaker 15: I'm gonna be blunt because it's it's it deserves it

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Speaker 15: and and I'm just I'm just gonna say what it was.

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Speaker 15: You see him shooting Charlie. You see him executing Charlie.

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Speaker 15: You you see him take the shot, and so you've

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Speaker 15: seen the the video and Blake, I know you were there, man,

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Speaker 15: and it's it was like watching Charlie die all over again.

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Speaker 15: Seeing this video. This is the it's the most damning

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Speaker 15: thing I've seen all week for Tyler Robinson. With the

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Speaker 15: zoom in, it just changes everything. It's like it's like

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Speaker 15: watching a completely different video because the one that zoomed

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Speaker 15: out you can't even see anything. This one. He walks up,

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Speaker 15: he it's I mean, it's just like the officer said

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Speaker 15: earlier in the I guess it was day one that

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Speaker 15: he walks up over the guardrail, goes down and you

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Speaker 15: can see him kind of working on something and it's

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Speaker 15: you know, I believe that's when he was assembling the rifle.

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Speaker 15: He then stands up, he runs very quickly across the

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Speaker 15: gravel roof to the edge, and then when he gets

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Speaker 15: to the edge, you see him go down and he's

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Speaker 15: in the prone position, and it's you know, they have

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Speaker 15: this clock like the time Stamplet's up and it's twelve twenty.

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Speaker 15: I think it's twelve twenty one, twelve twenty two when

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Speaker 15: he first gets there, and I'm just sitting there like.

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Speaker 7: Stop the clock, like don't.

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Speaker 15: Like like trying to will time to stop, like, don't

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Speaker 15: get to twelve twenty three, Like, just don't get to

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Speaker 15: twelve twenty three. And he gets to twelve twenty three

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Speaker 15: and you see him take the shot and he gets

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Speaker 15: back up and then he you know, he runs across

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Speaker 15: and you've seen the the end of it already where

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Speaker 15: he you know, makes the jump.

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Speaker 7: But it's.

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Speaker 15: It's all there. It's it's all there, it's it's on video.

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Speaker 15: It all lines up, and I got I got very

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Speaker 15: very angry watching this video in court. I was I

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Speaker 15: was gripping the you know, the seat.

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Speaker 7: I think I almost broke my rosary.

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Speaker 15: I just and to know that Erica and Charlie's parents

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Speaker 15: had to watch this with Tyler. He was sitting right

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Speaker 15: there and he wouldn't even look, by the way, he

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Speaker 15: wouldn't even look. And someone told me his own monitor

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Speaker 15: was off. He wouldn't even look at the video as

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Speaker 15: it was being played.

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Speaker 2: Of what he.

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Speaker 15: Did, and the fact that he was so close to us,

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Speaker 15: it's it's it's it is an unspeakable evil. It's since

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Speaker 15: seeing the original video, this is the worst thing I've seen.

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Speaker 15: This is the worst thing I've seen other than the

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Speaker 15: actual video of the you know, the gunshot itself. Connecting

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Speaker 15: that it was it was very hard to watch. Yeah,

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Speaker 15: there was a shockwave across the entire crowd. And and

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Speaker 15: by the way that the video you so you could

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Speaker 15: see him walking up too, and the video that we

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Speaker 15: can see and this I need to explain this to

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Speaker 15: everybody who By the way, sorry, I know I'm jumping around,

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Speaker 15: I'm a little I'm a little flustered. But the video

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Speaker 15: that we see played on that monitor is so much

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Speaker 15: more clear than the video that's on the live stream.

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Speaker 15: When you see him walking around, it's not just a

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Speaker 15: blurry guy or a pixelated guy. It's Tyler Robinson. It's

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Speaker 15: just very obviously when he's there in the red shirt

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Speaker 15: and the shorts and he comes back and all black,

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Speaker 15: it's still it's the same guy. It's just obviously him.

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Speaker 15: There's no question about it. It's so crystal clear. And

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Speaker 15: every single one of these videos needs to be released

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Speaker 15: publicly in its raw form so that everyone can see that.

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Speaker 15: I understand, you know, certain things they're holding back until trial.

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Speaker 15: I get all that, right, but everyone needs to understand

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Speaker 15: it's on video. Okay, it's on video.

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Speaker 7: It is him.

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Speaker 15: Benny Johnson came by today and he hadn't been there

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Speaker 15: early in the week, and he thought he was stunned

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Speaker 15: because he's been watching the live stream. I'm not watching

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Speaker 15: the live stream, and he said he was stunned at

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Speaker 15: how much better the video quality is when you're sitting

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Speaker 15: there and I guess, you know, compression and it's live

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Speaker 15: stream and the quality whatever. We all know the tech,

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Speaker 15: but it's it's just it's very obviously.

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Speaker 7: Him walking up to that roof.

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Speaker 15: And then to know and see I mean, we all

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Speaker 15: know what happened, but to see it, I mean, it's

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Speaker 15: it's just playing over and over again.

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Speaker 3: I think thank you for sharing that. And again, my

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Speaker 3: thoughts instantly go to Erica and Kathy and rob having

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Speaker 3: to see the very moment that Charlie's life was robbed

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Speaker 3: from him. You said, just to be clear, you said

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Speaker 3: that in this enhanced video, you can see him taking

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Speaker 3: the shot in the pro position, you see him taking

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Speaker 3: the shot. And I just I asked, just because I'm

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Speaker 3: sure there's going to be questions about it, was there

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Speaker 3: any explanation of how the video was enhanced.

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Speaker 15: It's it's it's just as simple zoom in. It's not

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Speaker 15: it's not anything other than that. It's just just literally

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Speaker 15: just zoomed in. It's it's it's like, you know, you know,

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Speaker 15: how when when he first, uh, when we didn't know

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Speaker 15: who Tyler Robinson was and they put out that first

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Speaker 15: video of him dropping off the you know, the the

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Speaker 15: awning I guess of the low C building.

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Speaker 7: It's yeah, it's it's it's just that it's like the.

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Speaker 15: I guess, the five minutes or so prior to that,

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Speaker 15: So it looks pretty similar to that in terms of quality.

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Speaker 15: It's just that same just it's just as zoom in process.

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Speaker 15: I know, you know, it doesn't look like there's any

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Speaker 15: AI upscaling or any of that stuff. It literally just

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Speaker 15: looks like a zoom in on. So they took that

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Speaker 15: wide screen because of course the looking at everything, but

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Speaker 15: it's just as zooming, just as zooming, and it's one

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Speaker 15: it's one of the worst things.

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Speaker 3: So glad we got the tech figured out for to

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Speaker 3: tell us that because it was really important. And thank

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Speaker 3: you for being there on the ground with the Kirk

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Speaker 3: family and the whole team being a support and Steve

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Speaker 3: Dace has been with us all our Steve, thank you

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Speaker 3: as well for joining us, and just want to reiterate.

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Speaker 2: What you meant to Charlie.

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Speaker 3: And he was always a big Steve Dace fan and

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Speaker 3: he he made me one as well, and now I

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Speaker 3: get to sort of experience that here on the show directly,

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Speaker 3: and it's a total blessing, man, and we just appreciate you,

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Speaker 3: and you're a good man and you're godly man.

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Speaker 2: So thank you for everything.

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Speaker 3: Gentlemen, We got to wrap it up here and for

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Speaker 3: real America's Voice, thank you for taking this recap special

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Speaker 3: all week long to honor our friend and to do

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Speaker 3: our part as we look for and seek for seek

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Speaker 3: justice for Charlie. And I think it's a really important week.

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Speaker 3: We're going to look back on it and think of

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Speaker 3: it as a really, really important week and you all

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Speaker 3: have been an important part of that.

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Speaker 2: So thank you to the audience. We'll see you. We'll

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Speaker 2: see you on Monday.

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Speaker 5: For more on many of these stories and news you

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Speaker 5: can trust, go to Charliekirk dot com.