Speaker 1: Right out the gate here, I'm just gonna lay it
Speaker 1: out there. I'm gonna speak on behalf of the viewing
Speaker 1: audience and simply put, I mean, what do you what
Speaker 1: do you have to say for yourself? What is it
Speaker 1: that you have to say for yourself? How dare you? Melissa?
Speaker 1: How dare you? I know you got everybody all riled
Speaker 1: up in saying yourself.
Speaker 2: I got everyone riled up last week and I had
Speaker 2: a few people, one hundred people write me and ask
Speaker 2: me to please explain myself.
Speaker 1: Would you like to offer up a retraction? Okay, because I,
Speaker 1: as your husband, I don't know that I've ever been
Speaker 1: uh so so reluctant to lend my support over over
Speaker 1: to your side of the table. You lie for shame
Speaker 1: for shame.
Speaker 3: I like, you say the same thing, and I'm the
Speaker 3: only one that gets in trouble.
Speaker 1: I am joking just to make this like super duper clear,
Speaker 1: totally joking. Welcome back to the New World Old Soul Podcast.
Speaker 1: Welcome back, guys.
Speaker 3: If you're back, thanks for coming.
Speaker 1: You mean set the stage here in real time. It's
Speaker 1: been like three days, four days since we record, since
Speaker 1: we posted on this channel previously, and a good chunk
Speaker 1: of that conversation revolved around the halftime show the Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: regushing about the Seahawks. I know it was a very
Speaker 1: small portion of the conversation, but it got people really
Speaker 1: fired up in the comments, and so they wanted to
Speaker 1: come in here to address some of the questions and
Speaker 1: concerns and confusion that so many people expressed. And we're
Speaker 1: joking here in the onset about all of this, but
Speaker 1: it's just it's been a thing, and Melissa has been stewing.
Speaker 3: I've been about it.
Speaker 1: We're being totally honest and transparent here.
Speaker 3: I've been. I've been stewing.
Speaker 1: This is like read this one and I'm like, no, well, okay.
Speaker 3: I felt a little misunderstood.
Speaker 2: And I think people I think people got pretty upset
Speaker 2: over what I mean. I guess I just didn't coming
Speaker 2: out of the podcast, I didn't see that it was
Speaker 2: going to cause a big upset, but then it did.
Speaker 3: And I couldn't tell if it was just people.
Speaker 1: Did you say a big upset?
Speaker 2: I couldn't tell if it was just people kind of
Speaker 2: like jumping all on the bandwagon, or if what I said.
Speaker 3: Was actually that upsetting or that confusing.
Speaker 2: So I had some people that I do recognize as
Speaker 2: regulars writing me and saying, could you please clarify because
Speaker 2: it was so off brand for you that we were
Speaker 2: left feeling very confused because it doesn't mirror what you
Speaker 2: normally say.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't necessarily feel that way. I mean, I
Speaker 1: put the episode together and I was a little shocked
Speaker 1: by it as well. I guess here's what I think happened,
Speaker 1: and let's let's review exactly what it is that was said. Basically,
Speaker 1: we expressed that we were very happy this US won
Speaker 1: a Super Bowls the halftime show, I indicated that I
Speaker 1: left the stupid bad Bunny thing on because I didn't
Speaker 1: want to miss a second of the game, rather than
Speaker 1: turning over to the kid rock performance that was produced
Speaker 1: by Turning Point USA. So many of our audience it
Speaker 1: sounds like, did go over to watch.
Speaker 3: With the Great American halftime shows, Great.
Speaker 1: American half I'm shure, I love it. I'm glad that
Speaker 1: people moved over. I would have moved over to had
Speaker 1: it been like of greater significance to me. It just
Speaker 1: really wasn't quite Honestly, I said that I took a
Speaker 1: bathroom break. I want to got something to eat. The
Speaker 1: stupid bad bunny thing was on TV. I to be
Speaker 1: totally honest with you, I don't know that I digested
Speaker 1: more than twenty seconds of that halftime show. I said
Speaker 1: on the podcast that it was in Spanish, So if
Speaker 1: there was anything that I was supposed to take offense to,
Speaker 1: it went over my head, right, Okay, you.
Speaker 2: Said, Okay, So I said that. I basically I wasn't
Speaker 2: really surprised by it, or like I thought that they
Speaker 2: were going to go on there and make a really
Speaker 2: big political statement, like an anti ICE political statement. And
Speaker 2: then when I watched it, I mean I had no
Speaker 2: idea what he was saying. But when I watched it,
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, Like to me, it just looked
Speaker 2: like all these different Latin countries.
Speaker 1: You also were like sitting in front of the TV plane.
Speaker 3: No, I mean we took it. We made pizza. It
Speaker 3: was a bathroom break. I was changing Mica.
Speaker 1: I was like a talk about the game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the halftime show to us is like recess whatever,
Speaker 2: you know, get up and do what you need to do.
Speaker 2: But we did have it on, and I did glance
Speaker 2: at it a few times, and I figured we were
Speaker 2: going to come on here and at least briefly talk
Speaker 2: about it. I didn't know it would become such a controversy,
Speaker 2: and so from the little bit that I saw, I
Speaker 2: was like, okay, so basically he's saying that any part
Speaker 2: of the America, South America, North America, all these different
Speaker 2: countries are all American.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Wait, But we didn't know that at the time,
Speaker 1: because again, well, I.
Speaker 2: Mean that's when I gathered from it. I thought it
Speaker 2: was going to be like an anti Ice statement. When
Speaker 2: it wasn't, I was like, okay, I.
Speaker 1: Would just want to provide a little context here. So
Speaker 1: we watched the game on Sunday, obviously Super Bowl Sunday.
Speaker 1: We came in here the next morning, it was Monday morning.
Speaker 1: We were like glowing from our wind, like we indicated
Speaker 1: on the episode, and we offered up our opinion on
Speaker 1: all things, including the halftime show. It was at that
Speaker 1: point that I think, just in the internet space and
Speaker 1: in the media, that they were all all these narratives
Speaker 1: began to be pushed. We had tons of people referencing
Speaker 1: Glenn Beck, who as far as like breaking down.
Speaker 2: So there were some there were different podcasters that I
Speaker 2: guess a lot of you guys listened to that broke
Speaker 2: down the bad bunny lyrics. He's saying, I think four songs.
Speaker 2: One of them was explicit, the other three they really weren't,
Speaker 2: So one was bad. Now a lot of people are saying,
Speaker 2: why wasn't he fine? Why wasn't he you know, why
Speaker 2: was he allowed to sing this song and everything?
Speaker 3: So what was explained.
Speaker 2: After the fact after, Like, if you look up the
Speaker 2: original lyrics, the song is horrible. We didn't know that
Speaker 2: at the time when we recorded the podcast. We just
Speaker 2: came on here and talked like we were talking.
Speaker 1: We didn't understand what.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we didn't know what they were saying.
Speaker 2: When I read the lyrics, I was like, oh my gosh, yeah,
Speaker 2: that the song was really really bad. But then later
Speaker 2: I discovered through doing more research that the really explicit
Speaker 2: parts were actually retracted.
Speaker 3: From the song.
Speaker 2: He didn't sing them or perform there was It was
Speaker 2: the radio version, So the really bad parts where you're like, oh, wow,
Speaker 2: he actually didn't sing those during And I'm not defending him.
Speaker 2: I think he was a horrible garbage choice. Nobody knew
Speaker 2: who he was. He sings explicit content, he dresses in
Speaker 2: women's clothing, he does all kinds of stuff that I
Speaker 2: would consider not family friendly. The NFL is definitely just
Speaker 2: like sticking it to Yeah.
Speaker 1: I will say, maybe we didn't place enough emphasis on
Speaker 1: that part of it. We didn't like the choice the dancers,
Speaker 1: the like the gyration and everything, and maybe sad to
Speaker 1: say on our part, but it wasn't just that Partners
Speaker 1: wasn't surprising or shocking. It was completely expected by both
Speaker 1: myself and Melissa, and so when we saw it, I
Speaker 1: don't know that it required any further comment. Show maybe
Speaker 1: pointed that on the episode.
Speaker 2: Sure, but we're I guess I wasn't surprised by the
Speaker 2: dancing because a lot of people are referencing the dancing.
Speaker 2: I wasn't surprised by it because it's no different than
Speaker 2: what we saw last year or the year before, or
Speaker 2: the year before or the year before.
Speaker 3: I mean, it goes all the way back.
Speaker 2: Rihanna's dancing her halftime show was by far way more
Speaker 2: gross and she.
Speaker 3: Was pregnant while doing it.
Speaker 2: And then like j Low's and Shakiro were poll dancing
Speaker 2: during the halftime show, Beyonce's dancers were like a newer
Speaker 2: and they were dancing just as bad. It's the norm
Speaker 2: that it's just gross, which is why Turning Point offered
Speaker 2: up an alternative, and I think that's great.
Speaker 3: I think that we can You know.
Speaker 2: Everybody speaks with viewership because you were ship equals dollars,
Speaker 2: you speak with your dollars. So I think it's great
Speaker 2: that there's an alternative. So what I stated last week
Speaker 2: that really upset people's right is where I got in
Speaker 2: trouble there that Kid Rock wouldn't have been my personal
Speaker 2: choice for family friendly entertainer because I don't consider kid
Speaker 2: Rock to be family friendly. Now, if you aren't very
Speaker 2: familiar with kid Rock, and all you know is what
Speaker 2: you've seen lately or what you've been told through other podcasts,
Speaker 2: then I can understand why you were upset with me.
Speaker 2: But I grew up listening to kid Rock and seeing
Speaker 2: his many arrests and the stuff he does and the
Speaker 2: heavy oh yeah multiple times for different assaults, and the
Speaker 2: video that you know, so there is stuff like kid Rock.
Speaker 2: To me was always I wasn't allowed to listen to
Speaker 2: Kid Rock.
Speaker 1: We foolheartedly believe in the power of redemption.
Speaker 2: Yes, however, okay, so this is this is where else
Speaker 2: I got in trouble. So I had quite a few
Speaker 2: Christian people saying, well, so how dare you judge him?
Speaker 2: Because he is now saved, he is now a Christian,
Speaker 2: he's now a christ follower. Therefore, you are not allowed
Speaker 2: to cast judgment. You're not allowed to cast shade. I
Speaker 2: was accused of doing or question somebody's salvation.
Speaker 3: Now I know Matthew.
Speaker 2: Seven verse one, you know, judge not lest you be judged,
Speaker 2: And I understand that. I do feel like that verse
Speaker 2: is taken out of context. I know, because we all
Speaker 2: it's not that you should go around judging everyone like obviously,
Speaker 2: like if you continue reading, it talks about removing the
Speaker 2: plank out of your own eye so that you can
Speaker 2: help the person with the speck in their eye. It
Speaker 2: doesn't say don't help your neighbor with the speck in
Speaker 2: their eye. It says, first, remove the plank out of
Speaker 2: your own and so I.
Speaker 1: Think it's more roll capable of judgment. Well, what is
Speaker 1: judgment without authority? I guess because kind of always my thing.
Speaker 1: You're you're able to form your own opinions, and you should.
Speaker 1: You should fully embrace that. It helps you to navigate
Speaker 1: the world and help you to stay safe. Okay, you're
Speaker 1: casting judgment upon somebody anybody moving on.
Speaker 2: So okay, So going back a little bit before I
Speaker 2: really did into the whole judgment thing is because I'm
Speaker 2: not like a judging mcjudge your pants. But I do
Speaker 2: use discernment and I do use caution based on people's
Speaker 2: past actions because I think that there's a character issue
Speaker 2: and can people change. Yes, people are like, what about
Speaker 2: the Apostle Paul. Yes, the Apostle Paul was a terrible person,
Speaker 2: hunting down Christians and advocating for their murder, and then
Speaker 2: he became the Apostle to the gentile and a great
Speaker 2: great man. Now that doesn't mean that just because somebody
Speaker 2: claims to be a Christian that now we can no
Speaker 2: longer question anything.
Speaker 3: That ever happened in the past.
Speaker 2: We have to just accept their word and then just
Speaker 2: blindly trust them.
Speaker 1: So we're talking about skepticism. Yeah, based on person's prior actions,
Speaker 1: we have to use that.
Speaker 2: So think about the church body, Like you can have
Speaker 2: somebody that gets out of prison for a crime against
Speaker 2: a child and they say, I'm now completely new, I've
Speaker 2: found Christ and I'm a different person, and I left
Speaker 2: that person in the past and I would never ever
Speaker 2: harm a child again do we and they want to work.
Speaker 3: In the Sunday school. And we see this in churches,
Speaker 3: we see it.
Speaker 2: I mean there was a church right by where we
Speaker 2: used to live in Washington State that allowed somebody who
Speaker 2: served time in prison for a crime against a child
Speaker 2: to serve in their Sunday school.
Speaker 3: And then seven.
Speaker 2: More victims over the course of three years, ended up
Speaker 2: surfacing because they trusted what this man said.
Speaker 1: We can discount a person's past, all that has to
Speaker 1: be higging into consideration.
Speaker 3: I think it's okay to use discern mine.
Speaker 1: Yes, I completely agree with you, especially as a parent.
Speaker 1: So with regard to kid Rock, So with regard.
Speaker 2: To kid Rock, he has a colorful past and a
Speaker 2: colorful present.
Speaker 3: It's not that he's just like this, you know, like yes,
Speaker 3: like let's have tea.
Speaker 2: You know, kid Rock is kid Rock, Like he still
Speaker 2: gets up there and like like you know his music, yeah,
Speaker 2: and you know he's still you know, on his Instagram
Speaker 2: there's still a pretty recent picture of remember when bud
Speaker 2: Light didn't suck, And he's got Pamela Anderson crawling on
Speaker 2: him in underwear and you know, like.
Speaker 3: He's still a little rough around the edges. And that's fine.
Speaker 2: You can be a Christian and be rough around the edges.
Speaker 2: God tends to pick people that are rough around the edges.
Speaker 2: We are a little rough around the edges. All I'm
Speaker 2: saying was he wouldn't have been my first pick for
Speaker 2: family friendly alternative entertainment because what I saw when I
Speaker 2: did watch the halftime show was that he performed one
Speaker 2: of his more sketchy songs in my opinion, and he
Speaker 2: performed it in English where we could understand the lyrics.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's the song.
Speaker 2: So the very first song that he came out and performed,
Speaker 2: he sang verse one two.
Speaker 3: A lot of people were like, I didn't hear any bad.
Speaker 2: It's like, well, maybe he just couldn't understand him, because
Speaker 2: if you actually go and look up the.
Speaker 4: Lyrics, I don't consider that should be family friendly copyright trick.
Speaker 4: Maybe I'm an uppity, old prissy mom, but I don't
Speaker 4: find that song verse one to be family friendly.
Speaker 1: It's artistic expression. And maybe some people have a very
Speaker 1: through low threshold for this.
Speaker 3: I guess they do. With the kid.
Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever considered you to be one
Speaker 1: of those people. But yeah, from a parental perspective. If
Speaker 1: Turning Point is going to market their entire show as
Speaker 1: being quote unquote family friendly, which was that the case?
Speaker 2: I just want to I mean, people were calling it
Speaker 2: the family friendly one.
Speaker 3: I don't know that Turning Point did so.
Speaker 1: And the point, the point you made to me here
Speaker 1: in our private discussion here in our home, was that
Speaker 1: bad bunny, right.
Speaker 2: We didn't expect anything good from him. I expected that.
Speaker 3: That to suck.
Speaker 1: There were no curse words in his performance. They were retracted.
Speaker 2: They were retracted instead of using the effort because people
Speaker 2: are accused four efforts.
Speaker 3: No, he actually said fight.
Speaker 1: Not that that's read either. He's on Marvel Choice Television
Speaker 1: and FCC being the FCC right covers.
Speaker 3: Fine.
Speaker 1: You pointed out that Kid Rock during his performance actually swore.
Speaker 2: Well, okay, can I can I just read you what
Speaker 2: he actually sang at the Turning Point halftime show verse one.
Speaker 2: This is this is what it is, and this is
Speaker 2: for the questions that don't have answers. The Midnight Glancers
Speaker 2: and the topless Dancers, the can of Freaks, cars packed
Speaker 2: with speakers, the G's with the forties and the Clicks
Speaker 2: with the fevers. Okay, the Northern Lights and Southern comfort,
Speaker 2: and it don't matter if your veins are punctured. Reference
Speaker 2: to heroin, all the crackheads, the critics, the cynics, and
Speaker 2: all my heroes at the methadone clinics, all you bastards
Speaker 2: at the I R s. For the crooked cops and
Speaker 2: the cluttered desks, for the shots of Jack and the
Speaker 2: caps of meth, half pints of love and fifth of stress.
Speaker 2: All the hookers that are tricking out in Hollywood like this.
Speaker 2: He sang this live the Alternative Halftime Show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that song, and I'm not going to like that
Speaker 1: for kid rock. First, well, I thinks hilarious that you're
Speaker 1: not one of these moms.
Speaker 3: I know read how old I am.
Speaker 1: That song is from when we were in high school.
Speaker 1: I think like that.
Speaker 3: I remember so I heard it and I was like, oh.
Speaker 1: Like that's what he said. His entire messaging with his
Speaker 1: performance is the fact that he's a change man now
Speaker 1: and he left all that in the past, right, so
Speaker 1: fair enough.
Speaker 2: Like for me, I loved the symbolism. I loved this
Speaker 2: is the you know, kid rock, and then he's being
Speaker 2: kid rock and then like, don't I know I look
Speaker 2: so old right now?
Speaker 3: Oh? God, my kids are gonna cringe.
Speaker 2: And then the name goes out, and then there's that
Speaker 2: beautiful duo that plays like the orchestra music.
Speaker 3: Yes, and then he's.
Speaker 2: Reintroduced as Richie right, his real name, and he comes
Speaker 2: out and he shares the gospel, and to me, that
Speaker 2: was so powerful and so beautiful, and I absolutely love it.
Speaker 2: I just wish that maybe, like maybe if he had
Speaker 2: come out and just did the like kid rock part
Speaker 2: and then saying that first part you.
Speaker 3: Know it of the song and then maybe didn't.
Speaker 2: Sing verse one and then like the like I feel
Speaker 2: like it could have been done a little bit more
Speaker 2: family friendly, just me if I were in charge. Clearly
Speaker 2: I'm not because I'm a big lame, dorky mom that
Speaker 2: thinks everything's inappropriate, so clearly I don't get to be
Speaker 2: in charge. It was my personal opinion that I didn't
Speaker 2: find that to be family friendly either, and I have
Speaker 2: questions about, you know, whether or not.
Speaker 3: I don't know, you know what.
Speaker 2: I just want to see everybody doing better and everyone
Speaker 2: trying to protect the little innocent ears of children. If
Speaker 2: you know kids are going to be watching, they're gonna
Speaker 2: be in the audience, Like we can all do a
Speaker 2: little bit better. The NFL can do a whole lot better,
Speaker 2: like way better. Why haven't we done a Carrie Underwood
Speaker 2: halftime show? She works with the NFL. She's an incredible
Speaker 2: live performer. She keeps it clean. Like, let's do like
Speaker 2: Carrie Underwood and like Chris Stapleton, or he did the
Speaker 2: National Anthem and it was so good. It was so good,
Speaker 2: So let's do a time show anyway. I'm just I
Speaker 2: just think we can all do better, Like why does
Speaker 2: it always have to be provocative?
Speaker 3: Why does it always have to be dirty? Why does
Speaker 3: it always have to.
Speaker 1: Have like because it works because it's defective.
Speaker 2: I just think like if they did a really clean one,
Speaker 2: everybody would like it.
Speaker 1: Cold Play Coldplay was good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but everyone made fun of that choice, like, oh Coldplay.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think I was one of those people, but
Speaker 1: actually end up liking it.
Speaker 3: It was really good. It was clean. I mean, I
Speaker 3: thought that Bruno Mars one was good. I don't know. Anyway.
Speaker 2: People were upset that they felt that I was judging
Speaker 2: kid Rock, and I'm not judging his salvation.
Speaker 3: I would never do that.
Speaker 2: Kid Rock could be a completely changed person, and I
Speaker 2: seriously pray to God that he is, because he'd be
Speaker 2: very powerful, you know, or he is being the fact that.
Speaker 1: You were questioning his authenticity in the moment as Parmy,
Speaker 1: maybe we got people riled up, and all you were
Speaker 1: saying just for the sake of clarification here like you
Speaker 1: if you're not, you don't you have you don't have
Speaker 1: any real reason to doubt his authenticity with his current
Speaker 1: day messaging. He does have a very checkered pass and
Speaker 1: that is valid and relevant and something that should be
Speaker 1: taken in consideration. And these are the things that you
Speaker 1: referenced last week.
Speaker 2: Me as a parent to remain cautious. Would I want
Speaker 2: him to hang out with Niveah? Probably not, based on
Speaker 2: past references to young girls and stuff.
Speaker 3: No, I wouldn't.
Speaker 1: Sorry, Yeah. The thing the thing that I found the
Speaker 1: most troubling was what it is was that you brought
Speaker 1: up last week about was the lyrics.
Speaker 3: Oh, the lyrics?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he has lyrics in a song that's young.
Speaker 3: Ladies, young ladies like a underage. Some call it statutory,
Speaker 3: but you know what it would be.
Speaker 1: For him, and not that it would be necessarily wise
Speaker 1: for him to do so, but to address some of
Speaker 1: this stuff head.
Speaker 3: On, like yeah, like yeah, that used to be me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, like offer up just maybe what
Speaker 1: his mindset was, and hey, that was me in the past.
Speaker 1: Not that you need to like explain yourself. Like I said,
Speaker 1: I'm not good. I'm not a pr person.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's better to just like let the past be
Speaker 2: the past. But I mean those of us that grew
Speaker 2: up with it are going to remember it. So yeah, no,
Speaker 2: I hope that he's a completely changed person, and maybe
Speaker 2: he is. And nobody's salvation is anyone else is to
Speaker 2: judge us between you and your creator.
Speaker 3: But when you say that you.
Speaker 2: Can't judge anyone at any time, I think that for
Speaker 2: a Yeah, I just think that that's very disingenuous and
Speaker 2: kind of hypocritical, because everybody makes judgments every day. When
Speaker 2: you go to a job interview, the person interviewing you.
Speaker 3: Is judging you.
Speaker 2: They're judging your past, or judging your education, They're judging
Speaker 2: what other people have said about you. They're making a
Speaker 2: judgment on whether or not to hire you. When you
Speaker 2: interview a nanny for your children, you are judging that person.
Speaker 2: It's an interview judgment. You're judging the way that they
Speaker 2: make you feel. You're judging the answers that they have
Speaker 2: to your questions. You're judging what people in the past
Speaker 2: have said. When you're walking down the street at night
Speaker 2: and you see somebody walking towards you and they look
Speaker 2: a little sketchy, like it's not a little old lady,
Speaker 2: you will make a judgment on whether or not to
Speaker 2: cross the street based on that person's appearance alone. And
Speaker 2: if you don't make that, if you're like, nope, I
Speaker 2: can't judge anyone, and you just keep walking and the
Speaker 2: hair is on your neck, are standing up like cross
Speaker 2: the street and you're like nope, can't judge anyone, and
Speaker 2: then they shank you prison style. You're gonna wish that
Speaker 2: you had listened to Jiminy Cricket, Like, we judge people
Speaker 2: every day based on their actions, their words, mostly their actions,
Speaker 2: and sometimes just the way that the way that they
Speaker 2: make us feel.
Speaker 3: Sometimes people just feel off.
Speaker 2: And as parents, you have to judge people to know
Speaker 2: who's safe and who's not around your family.
Speaker 3: And if you're not.
Speaker 2: Making judgments because you feel like you can't, then you're
Speaker 2: not being a good or safe parent.
Speaker 1: Are we talking about like an evaluation or an assessment.
Speaker 1: Because when I think of the word judgment, like I said,
Speaker 1: always think that it has some weights behind it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like a judgment is something that is cast from somebody
Speaker 1: with a means of authority, right, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And I think biblically that's what we're referring to as well. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you to a form year own opinion to have
Speaker 1: that discernment, exercise that discernment is not the same thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't say like that person's not safe. Like
Speaker 2: if I came on here and I was like, I
Speaker 2: don't leave Kid Rock and I don't think he's saved,
Speaker 2: and I think he's going to Hell, that's judging somebody's salvation. Ye.
Speaker 1: Just still, there's no judgment. You're not changing anything, You're
Speaker 1: not altering his life moving forward. That's you're expressing an
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Speaker 2: used out of context, and then everybody goes around judging
Speaker 2: people throughout their lives. That's how you know who's good
Speaker 2: to have in your life and who's not good to
Speaker 2: have in your life. You make a judgment on whether
Speaker 2: or not you're going to date someone when you're on
Speaker 2: a date. You make a judgment on whether or not
Speaker 2: you're going to have a second date with somebody. These
Speaker 2: are judgments, so like you can't say, well, I can't
Speaker 2: judge that person. And they totally gave me the ick
Speaker 2: and I didn't really like that. They've you know, served
Speaker 2: some time in prison. But he asked me on a
Speaker 2: second date, and I shouldn't judge him, like.
Speaker 3: No, of course not. You shouldn't go on a second
Speaker 3: date with that person.
Speaker 1: So, if I'm hearing you right, you're doubling down. Basically,
Speaker 1: you were not ashamed you expressed.
Speaker 2: I am saying that I think that that the verse
Speaker 2: is used is cherry picked and used anytime that somebody
Speaker 2: doesn't like what you're saying.
Speaker 1: I'm saying with with what it is that you've expressed
Speaker 1: on the podcast episode last week that got you in
Speaker 1: a little bit of trouble.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I mean, I I stand by what I said.
Speaker 2: He wouldn't have been my first choice because I, like,
Speaker 2: I really found the first song to be not family friendly, inappropriate,
Speaker 2: and not necessary, and so I kind of wish that
Speaker 2: he had made a different choice in that regard. And
Speaker 2: you know, but I mean, I understand the symbolism. I
Speaker 2: think the story was beautiful.
Speaker 1: I just yeah, his messaging was great. The part of
Speaker 1: this that really bothered me. And it is like when
Speaker 1: you were referencing thisbody put like this was off brand
Speaker 1: for us. We don't come in here or do anything
Speaker 1: that we eventually post online with the mindset of like,
Speaker 1: oh is this on brand, Like, we're not those people.
Speaker 1: I know that there are a lot of people that
Speaker 1: operate online like that, we are not one of them.
Speaker 1: Another thing that stood out to me that I felt
Speaker 1: like I wanted to address is just the fact that, like, well,
Speaker 1: you guys should have done more research before talking about
Speaker 1: this subject. Do we always do a lot of research? No?
Speaker 1: Do we do? Sometimes do we not do any research?
Speaker 1: Looking at myself in prett regular Yeah, it doesn't mean
Speaker 1: that I can't come in here and also express my opinion.
Speaker 1: This is not a news outlet. We are not a
Speaker 1: legacy media source for all of you to come on
Speaker 1: here and educate yourself. Sometimes we're just expressing our opinions.
Speaker 1: We've said this before, like.
Speaker 2: If something's going on in the news or that a
Speaker 2: lot of people are talking about it, sometimes we don't
Speaker 2: want to go on and listen to what everyone else
Speaker 2: is saying about it and then parrot that.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Sometimes it's done intentionally.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because we want to be more authentic and that
Speaker 2: like we're not just repeating what everybody else is repeating,
Speaker 2: Like there was definitely like a narrative around the whole thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's what other people it was like
Speaker 1: I thought you guys were on this side, and so
Speaker 1: you should have been parroting what everybody else.
Speaker 2: Also narrative, this is unexpected, like everybody celebrated this and
Speaker 2: you're poking holes.
Speaker 1: And I will say, as a result, does that mean
Speaker 1: that you guys are going to be sometimes right when
Speaker 1: you say that we're dumb and we shouldn't speak about
Speaker 1: certain things? One hundred percent. We're not coming in here
Speaker 1: trying to be correct or right. We're just expressing our opinions.
Speaker 1: I feel like I've said this before, I pointed this out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like if you were at our house for a
Speaker 2: barbecue and we're just talking about this stuff, this is
Speaker 2: how we talk about it.
Speaker 3: You're like you're just talking with your friends and.
Speaker 1: Stuff that doesn't jive for anybody out there. As if
Speaker 1: you were like, I understand it, I respect it, I
Speaker 1: do appreciate the feedback like that feedback is always one
Speaker 1: hundred percent welcomed here, and I'm not I would never
Speaker 1: make the claim like, oh, we're right and anybody else
Speaker 1: is wrong, or you guys are right and we were
Speaker 1: one hundred percent roight, Like I'm glad that you're standing
Speaker 1: up for what it is. That you believe in and
Speaker 1: you're you're standing by what it is that you reference.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, and I'm glad that people ask me
Speaker 3: to clarify. But yeah, so to clarify, we hadn't read
Speaker 3: the Bad Bunny lyrics.
Speaker 2: They were worse, and we thought, apparently he didn't sing
Speaker 2: the worst of parts, but the song is inappropriate. It
Speaker 2: should not have been performed. I found the dancing to
Speaker 2: be discussing. I found the choice to be completely pointless
Speaker 2: and a total just kind of up tours from the NFL.
Speaker 3: So I didn't like that.
Speaker 2: I wasn't meaning to defend Bad Money in any way,
Speaker 2: Like I really thought that was a garbage show. I
Speaker 2: really liked the turning point one. I thought all of
Speaker 2: it was great. I thought all of the performers were
Speaker 2: really wonderful. I just didn't like that one little portion
Speaker 2: that I thought could have been nixed. Like if it
Speaker 2: were up to me, I would have been like, eh, Richie,
Speaker 2: could we maybe like that a little early, like, maybe
Speaker 2: don't perform the full verse one because there's some you know,
Speaker 2: children that are gonna be listening to this as a
Speaker 2: safe alternative, and it's in English, and there's some references
Speaker 2: to some shady characters.
Speaker 1: Okay, there you go. So you guys make sense of
Speaker 1: our mindset coming in here last week and saying what
Speaker 1: we said.
Speaker 3: I don't know, maybe that's just gonna make people more mad,
Speaker 3: so bed.
Speaker 1: Okay, moving on, staying on the topic of mostly kind
Speaker 1: of catching a lot of flak this week, reluctantly sold
Speaker 1: our horse, LExEN. And for those of you who have
Speaker 1: been watching Good Simple Living for quite a long time,
Speaker 1: know that he was our horse. You said three years
Speaker 1: on the video. I think it's been more than three years,
Speaker 1: though it has.
Speaker 2: I think it was, yeah, four years in September, maybe
Speaker 2: four years, so it's been like three and a half.
Speaker 1: Regardless, it's something that we were bummed to have to do.
Speaker 1: We tried to lay it out for everybody out there
Speaker 1: ahead of time. But Melissa in the comments once again
Speaker 1: like people were just giving mama like it's been a
Speaker 1: tough week from a tough week. Yeah, try to be
Speaker 1: very receptive to everything. Like I just mentioned a second ago,
Speaker 1: that everybody has to say with regards to anything to
Speaker 1: put out there, I appreciate your input, appreciate you watching.
Speaker 1: And we tried to lay the foundational groundwork for like, hey,
Speaker 1: we're making plans to sell the horse here. But I
Speaker 1: think seeing lex In back in the trailer.
Speaker 3: Showed his eyes just look sad. That's just a look
Speaker 3: on his face. His eyes always look like that.
Speaker 1: No, but we were both really sad about it. And
Speaker 1: but then people, I think a lot of horse people,
Speaker 1: maybe non horse.
Speaker 3: People, non horse people, you shouldn't.
Speaker 1: You shouldn't have another animal. How dare you get rid
Speaker 1: of that horse? That poor horse. The worst thing that
Speaker 1: ever happened to that horse was meeting you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean no, I don't think so. He was
Speaker 3: on the reds when I found him.
Speaker 1: Explain yourself.
Speaker 2: No, actually he was on the farm at Root sixty six,
Speaker 2: so he was fine over there. But he would have
Speaker 2: been sold to who knows, you know.
Speaker 5: But anyway, so with LExEN as a as a young rider,
Speaker 5: there was not a horse that I wouldn't ride, Like,
Speaker 5: I'm not afraid of riding.
Speaker 2: Like Jeremy seeing me ride and it made him really
Speaker 2: nervous because he's like, Okay, you look care like you're
Speaker 2: just like running down the stretch.
Speaker 1: You would cut that one corner. Yeah, I'm not a
Speaker 1: horse guy. Melissa is very talented with with riding, and
Speaker 1: she would just haul chi booty and cut these corns on,
Speaker 1: like please don't follow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've done barrels and things like that. So like,
Speaker 2: my balance on a horse is really good. I feel
Speaker 2: really confident of horse changes directions that I can. You know,
Speaker 2: I'm I have a you know, I'm sticky, so I can.
Speaker 2: But I'm not afraid of LExEN. But I know that
Speaker 2: Lexin is capable of hurting somebody and it doesn't take much.
Speaker 1: She was erratic.
Speaker 2: He was very erratic, and he was very spooky, and
Speaker 2: so that was a problem for me, and I didn't
Speaker 2: know that about him when I got him. And people
Speaker 2: are like, you can't just sell a horse that doesn't
Speaker 2: work for you. You have to make it work. No,
Speaker 2: you don't. You don't have to make it work. And
Speaker 2: if you force it and you try to make something
Speaker 2: a fit, that isn't a fit.
Speaker 3: This is how people get killed or paralyzed.
Speaker 2: And that horse bucked off my cousin and broke his
Speaker 2: back and his ribs. Now, he's never bucked with me,
Speaker 2: but when I saw that, I knew that he was
Speaker 2: then capable of it.
Speaker 1: And sorry, Matty about that.
Speaker 2: I didn't know that that horse was capable of that,
Speaker 2: and that was two years into owning him. We sent
Speaker 2: him to trainers, We hired people, we tried, and what
Speaker 2: every trainer told us at the end was this is
Speaker 2: not a family horse. And the last trainer had him
Speaker 2: for two months, bunch of money into them, and she
Speaker 2: was like, you need to sell him. He's not ever
Speaker 2: going to be a family I don't like.
Speaker 1: Hearing that though, And they'll just take thousand excused, like yeah.
Speaker 1: The mentality seemed to be like, hey, you took this
Speaker 1: horse all like, he's not your responsibility for life.
Speaker 2: But I feel like because they're like, oh, you know,
Speaker 2: I adopt animals and I would never move an animal.
Speaker 2: I said, well, are you a parent? And no, the
Speaker 2: dogs are my Okay, you're not a parent.
Speaker 1: Well, not all animals are the same, right.
Speaker 2: Like if you're talking at a cat, now, if you're
Speaker 2: talking about a dog, I said, well, would you keep
Speaker 2: a dog if you found out that it bites?
Speaker 3: I know my dogs don't bite.
Speaker 2: No dogs are animals, And I know people personally that
Speaker 2: have had dogs for three and four years that all
Speaker 2: of a sudden bit somebody.
Speaker 1: Loodle's not biting anywhere.
Speaker 2: I mean he's a Golden retriever. This is kind of
Speaker 2: breed specific. But let's say you adopt pit bulls. I'm
Speaker 2: going to pick on that breed for a second.
Speaker 1: Because before we even go there, I've owned three pit
Speaker 1: boles in my life.
Speaker 3: I've owned two, just so we're on the stackage here.
Speaker 2: One was a nightmare. One was very docile. Yeah, but
Speaker 2: was he capable?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean it's breed specific. So let's say that you
Speaker 2: adopt pipples. They're very, very sweet. You have a child
Speaker 2: two years in the child pulls on in the ear
Speaker 2: or something like a baby would do like Micah has
Speaker 2: no you know, he would pull and roll all over
Speaker 2: a dog he doesn't have any pole hair things, and
Speaker 2: the dog gets annoyed and bites. Do you then feel
Speaker 2: obligated to keep that dog over the safety of your child.
Speaker 2: If you do, you have no business being a parent.
Speaker 2: And I feel the same way with horses, only horses
Speaker 2: are bigger and they're more capable of destruction and hurting
Speaker 2: and killing and maiming.
Speaker 1: It's a bad analogy in a sense though, because Lexin
Speaker 1: didn't have the personality and demeanor of like uh of,
Speaker 1: he wasn't violent. I mean, I think I suppose all
Speaker 1: of them are capable, because there's thousand pound animals, but.
Speaker 3: The horses are capable. But there's good fits and bad fit.
Speaker 1: Was gonna say it was just simply a compatibility issue
Speaker 1: between him and also he was a great horse. I
Speaker 1: missed him tremendously like that. When he was driving off,
Speaker 1: I was legitimately bummed. Yeah, so was I.
Speaker 3: I thought Lexon was going to be my forever horse.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Picked him out. I loved him.
Speaker 2: His grand manners were amazing him and I actually rode
Speaker 2: really well together. But yeah, it sucks just knowing that
Speaker 2: he's capable, and more than capable because he's very spooky,
Speaker 2: so he would just fly off whenever, like you never
Speaker 2: knew when something was going to set Lexon off. And
Speaker 2: I thought, if I wasn't paying attention or I had
Speaker 2: my feet out of the stirrups, or I was you know,
Speaker 2: something happened and I got you know, paralyzed, or I
Speaker 2: broke something or worse, it would just be so irresponsible.
Speaker 2: And then to be able to look back and say,
Speaker 2: you know, I always kind of knew this about this horse.
Speaker 3: I knew he was a risk.
Speaker 2: As a parent, I think Anybody who's ever been a
Speaker 2: parent knows that your worst fear is something happening to
Speaker 2: your children, but your next worst fear is something happening
Speaker 2: to you and leaving your children, because like I know,
Speaker 2: that's like a huge fear of mine, because then it's like, then,
Speaker 2: what who's going to be their mom? Are they going
Speaker 2: to have a mom? Are is she going to be
Speaker 2: mean to them? Are they going to get what they need?
Speaker 2: Is there going to be this gaping hole in their lives?
Speaker 2: Like I fear leaving my children almost more than anything else.
Speaker 3: Like it's this nagging fear.
Speaker 2: And I remember my mom telling me that when I
Speaker 2: was a kid, and when I became eighteen, she's like,
Speaker 2: I feel sad that you guys aren't little anymore, but
Speaker 2: I feel relief because every day I worried about leaving
Speaker 2: you and having something happen. And so I have that
Speaker 2: fear too. And you can say it's an irrational fear,
Speaker 2: but I think every parent has it.
Speaker 1: I definitely have it the entire time. I'm also a
Speaker 1: cough leaving the house every day. It was a tremendous
Speaker 1: fear of mind.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So, and I know that, yes, you can step
Speaker 2: off a curve and you can get smacked by a
Speaker 2: bus right or you can get sick and that's outside
Speaker 2: of your control. But you can minimize risk. And I
Speaker 2: think as parents it's smart to minimize risk to yourself
Speaker 2: and to your children. I mean, there's so many men
Speaker 2: that are like as soon as I became a dad,
Speaker 2: when my baby was born, I sold my motorcycle, like
Speaker 2: you hear that all the time. Or I sold my
Speaker 2: little car, my little race car that I always thought
Speaker 2: I would have.
Speaker 1: That le is dangerous again, I'm trying to pound home that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it just was. It became a compatibility thing, Like we're
Speaker 1: getting older. Sorry mama, but riding at forty two is
Speaker 1: not the same as riding at sixteen.
Speaker 3: You don't bounce like you don't bounce like.
Speaker 1: You used to. You don't have the same balance that
Speaker 1: you once did, and the situation is just different. We've
Speaker 1: got five kids, four kids that were still really responsible
Speaker 1: for caring for day to day and it's just it
Speaker 1: didn't it didn't suit our life. Currently with word is
Speaker 1: that we find ourselves. I want to work too. We
Speaker 1: want to get another horse, because it's still a dream
Speaker 1: of Melissa and I to be able to ride around here,
Speaker 1: and you know, so we need to find another like Super.
Speaker 3: We need another Bruse.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we need another Blue, something that like we can
Speaker 1: both confidently hop on and yep, they're just very sound
Speaker 1: and won't take off on anyone.
Speaker 2: I need the horses that I know when the kids say,
Speaker 2: can we go out and ride? I don't have to
Speaker 2: go out there and wear them out or ride them
Speaker 2: first or anything. I want the kids to be able
Speaker 2: to go out there and be confident and be safe
Speaker 2: and be able to jump on bare back and ride around.
Speaker 2: And every horse is capable of being a horse, but
Speaker 2: there are some that are far less Like I really
Speaker 2: really would be surprised if Blue did anything stupid because
Speaker 2: he never has.
Speaker 1: So you don't have to. You shouldn't have to explain
Speaker 1: yourself to anybody. But so much of the feedback we
Speaker 1: got was negative and kind of targeted at you. But
Speaker 1: this is this is something that and people are just
Speaker 1: going to like, you're not going to convince anybody to
Speaker 1: just say that you're trying to justify it. But it's
Speaker 1: very common in like the horse community to because again,
Speaker 1: the compatibility is such a major factor when when finding
Speaker 1: and committee to a work.
Speaker 2: You can't tell. Like when you go test ride a horse,
Speaker 2: you can't tell. They can be so great in the
Speaker 2: arena that you're riding them in, and then you get
Speaker 2: them back to your house and they're still great, and
Speaker 2: then their true colors start to show over the course
Speaker 2: of like six months or even a year, like little
Speaker 2: little quirks, little things like.
Speaker 3: That you didn't know set them off.
Speaker 1: Like dating somebody, Yeah, exactly, can't tell from a first day.
Speaker 2: You can't like things that you didn't know scared them
Speaker 2: like you could. Everything's been fine. They've been desensitized in
Speaker 2: so many ways. Yeah, yeah, or a snake.
Speaker 1: Was across the path, or not the horse, but anyway.
Speaker 2: I mean, like with Debbie, she was really calm, but
Speaker 2: like one day I dropped my cell phone and she
Speaker 2: reared up, slipped over, pulled the whole round pen onto her.
Speaker 2: I mean it was insane because I dropped my phone.
Speaker 1: I was crazy, Like where did that come from? The
Speaker 1: pony we had? I think a lot of this also
Speaker 1: stems from the fact that we have gotten rid of
Speaker 1: We got rid of Debbie, we got rid of Cota,
Speaker 1: and now you're gonna ready to getting Redlex.
Speaker 3: It's hard to find a good fit horse.
Speaker 2: Horses have on average like ten owners, sometimes up to
Speaker 2: twenty owners because horses are horsey, and you have to
Speaker 2: find the right fit of horse and person and you
Speaker 2: can't force it. And so sometimes you have a horse
Speaker 2: for six months and you're like, this isn't a good fit.
Speaker 2: You have to be open to that, otherwise you're gonna
Speaker 2: get stuck with a horse that is going to hurt
Speaker 2: you or just you're not going to enjoy.
Speaker 1: Horses are horsey, Okay, yeah, for future reference.
Speaker 3: Yes, horses are horsey.
Speaker 2: So I mean ages are No, they're animals, and they're
Speaker 2: big animals. So I don't even know if the next
Speaker 2: one will be right for Again, it is.
Speaker 1: What it is. We are shopping for a replacement horse.
Speaker 1: I'm sure those people that are giving Melissa a hard
Speaker 1: time we're not happy about hearing that, but it is
Speaker 1: what it is. Never going to satisfy or appease everybody
Speaker 1: out there, But that's that's where we stand, and that's
Speaker 1: the explanation for it. Again, not that you should have
Speaker 1: to explain yourself. This isn't justification. It's just where we
Speaker 1: are in life. It's part of the reason that we're
Speaker 1: downsizing period. It's just you know, Melissa and are getting older,
Speaker 1: the older set of kids are getting older, and we
Speaker 1: might get back into like cheap one day, or having
Speaker 1: backyard chickens again one day. These are still things that
Speaker 1: we're incredibly passionate about. But between trying to like homeschool
Speaker 1: and raise our children here at home and running our
Speaker 1: own business and just all the work that is associated
Speaker 1: with that and trying to make sure that Melissa and
Speaker 1: I are in a good place, we have so much
Speaker 1: on our plate as it stands, and if that means
Speaker 1: that chickens need to go for the time being, the
Speaker 1: chickens are going to be gone.
Speaker 2: So I mean, yeah, we kind of like looked around
Speaker 2: and we did an assessment, and we're like, what is
Speaker 2: it that we can do to simplify our lives to
Speaker 2: be able to because we want to focus a lot
Speaker 2: on food production, and that takes so much time and diligence,
Speaker 2: and since we moved here, our garden has suffered so significantly,
Speaker 2: Like we haven't been good to gardeners because we've been
Speaker 2: so busy with this and this and this and this
Speaker 2: and this and this and this, and so it's like,
Speaker 2: if we can look around and we can nix a
Speaker 2: few things. We can actually have time to focus on
Speaker 2: what we really want to focus on.
Speaker 1: It's been so frustrating for me because we were like
Speaker 1: really good gardeners at one point.
Speaker 3: We were we love it so much, food about it.
Speaker 1: I love it, but just feeling like you don't have
Speaker 1: the time to like do everything it is that you
Speaker 1: want to do like it. And for me, it has
Speaker 1: primarily to do with the fact that the kids are
Speaker 1: getting older, Like I'd rather go take my boys to
Speaker 1: go do something like I want to go hiking the
Speaker 1: spring and summer whole lunch com on and I have
Speaker 1: been running and that's just something that I do with
Speaker 1: him as a means of like father son bonding. I
Speaker 1: don't necessarily want to run getting older, like it hurts, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it's something that we can do together. And you know,
Speaker 1: when I'm committed to doing things like that and making
Speaker 1: that the priority, things like gardening are going to fall
Speaker 1: to the wayside. So while it does frustrate me, I'm
Speaker 1: okay with it. It's just where we are currently.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we all the chickens go.
Speaker 2: We gave the sheep to our friends, which I mean
Speaker 2: they just live right down the road, and they are
Speaker 2: not missing us. They're being so spoiled. They dressed up
Speaker 2: for Valentine's Day and.
Speaker 1: It's really cool that we're friends with these people too.
Speaker 1: Yeah we get to see them on a regular braces.
Speaker 2: Yeah we get to see the sheep all the time anyway.
Speaker 2: But yeah, they're doing awesome. So, I mean, we always
Speaker 2: make sure that our animals go to good places when
Speaker 2: we do need to move them along.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's just we're in a different season now.
Speaker 2: And when our kids were all little and we had
Speaker 2: like this adorable little farm, and I didn't do any
Speaker 2: of this, you know, like I wasn't working, and homeschool
Speaker 2: is so much simpler when everyone was in elementary school,
Speaker 2: and now it's harder now, and there's more.
Speaker 1: It's the irony of so many of us that broke
Speaker 1: into this online space doing things like this, you know,
Speaker 1: like hobby farming and home setting is at for those
Speaker 1: of us to where you know, we've taken it to
Speaker 1: such an extent that it's become like a full time job.
Speaker 1: It really has gotten in the way and it inhibited,
Speaker 1: ironically enough, our ability to do all of that farming
Speaker 1: and homesteading that so many of us originally desired for ourselves. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not thoselves I see it in a lot of people.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, for sure.
Speaker 2: And I mean when we moved out here, like, yes,
Speaker 2: we were trying to homestead and be self sustaining, but
Speaker 2: we were also trying to build a house and raise
Speaker 2: a family, and so yeah, there's just a lot of
Speaker 2: things that kind of fellow the wayside that we want
Speaker 2: to get back now.
Speaker 3: And so it's just a matter of priority.
Speaker 2: And yeah, I mean with a horse, like I didn't
Speaker 2: have every day to go out there and train him.
Speaker 2: I mean he needed an hour day and I didn't
Speaker 2: have it. So unfortunately he had to go somewhere where
Speaker 2: they did have the time to do that. And so yeah,
Speaker 2: we'll find something old that doesn't need that.
Speaker 1: Okay. Final topic for today's episode of the podcast is
Speaker 1: something that Melissa brought to my attention, something that was
Speaker 1: pretty disturbing. Yeah.
Speaker 3: First you didn't think it was a big deal until
Speaker 3: you started looking.
Speaker 1: At it didn't sound real to me. Let's jump in
Speaker 1: showing we have said this repeatedly, but we were living
Speaker 1: in unprecedented times, seeing so many attacks against godly values
Speaker 1: and the family, So it's more important than ever that
Speaker 1: we have a plan to help our kids internalize what
Speaker 1: they believe and actually own it for themselves.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's why we'd love what our friends over
Speaker 2: at Brave Books are doing. We know the team personally
Speaker 2: and so we truly know where their hearts are. And
Speaker 2: of course, you guys know that we teamed up with
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Speaker 2: goal for CCC, So they are such an incredible company
Speaker 2: to support.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Plus, their stories are actually incredible and exciting, and
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Speaker 1: me about all of this crazy stuff that is happening
Speaker 1: with Frieda who I brought up before. If you remember
Speaker 1: the breast milk ice cream, that is the brand we
Speaker 1: were talking about. But what's going on with these guys?
Speaker 2: Okay, so this is all the rage right now. There's
Speaker 2: a brand called Freedom Mom. Now, you guys might remember
Speaker 2: there was this not sucker for babies and you foot
Speaker 2: the end and the baby's nose when they had a cold,
Speaker 2: and then there was a straw and then you sucked
Speaker 2: on the end and you would watch the snot go
Speaker 2: up the straw and you would stop before I get
Speaker 2: to your mouth. Hopefully you never wanted to go gas. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 2: So that was their first product and it was called
Speaker 2: like freedom nose.
Speaker 3: I believe it was their first product. And then she
Speaker 3: the owner.
Speaker 2: Which is a mother of four and a businesswoman, she
Speaker 2: greatly expanded into there's Freedom mom, and there's freeda baby.
Speaker 1: And Chelsea her shorn Yes, okay, CEO.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's the CEO. She is a mom.
Speaker 2: Now the mistake I think she made was kind of
Speaker 2: the scrub Daddy mistake.
Speaker 3: Now it worked for scrub Daddy.
Speaker 1: Scrub Daddy's great. What scrub Daddy do scrub Daddy for me?
Speaker 2: Grub Daddy decided to hire a bunch of gen zers
Speaker 2: for their ad campaign marketing team. It became I mean,
Speaker 2: this is like softcore sometimes even more on their Instagram page.
Speaker 2: Their marketing is so dirty.
Speaker 1: Scrub Daddy.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you didn't know that.
Speaker 1: I'm so out of the loop on these things. You
Speaker 1: bring this stuff up. And so here's how our day
Speaker 1: to day life goes in the house. There it comes downstairs.
Speaker 1: I was like, mom, look at this. And Melissa's like, hey, Novia,
Speaker 1: how about this? And they go back and forth, and meanwhile,
Speaker 1: I'm just like making breakfast for myself.
Speaker 3: Jeremy still only using Facebook.
Speaker 1: So then she was just giving me.
Speaker 2: A Two weeks after we see something, he's like, oh
Speaker 2: my gosh.
Speaker 3: Did you see this for like, yeah, two weeks ago,
Speaker 3: because this just.
Speaker 1: Happened with one thing. That's why she's saying this. But
Speaker 1: she's trying to convince you to get on Instagram.
Speaker 3: I will not do it, remain on Facebook.
Speaker 1: I have no desire. I don't need more social media
Speaker 1: in my life, any less of it.
Speaker 6: Okay, So the scrub Daddy team anyway, hired a bunch
Speaker 6: of gen zs and their marketing is so dirty, I
Speaker 6: mean so dirty, but it has like skyrocketed the popularity
Speaker 6: of scrub Daddy because everyone thinks it's funny.
Speaker 1: Really yeah, oh yeah, so no wonder this is happening right, Well.
Speaker 3: It's not just them Duo Lingo the owl.
Speaker 2: Oh that owl is so dirty and so inappropriate and
Speaker 2: he's such a jerk and like that's what people like. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so again it's just a bunch of gen zers. Now,
Speaker 2: these people are not parents, they're younger, and they think
Speaker 2: everything is funny. I mean, there this is a group
Speaker 2: that makes like nine to eleven jokes and Holocaust jokes.
Speaker 2: They think everything is funny and everything is a.
Speaker 3: Free for all.
Speaker 1: What makes this difference about freedom? What makes this different
Speaker 1: about Freedom Baby, I think is their product lineup in
Speaker 1: the fact that they make things specifically for babies. Yeah,
Speaker 1: which makes this really weird and beyond I mean awkwards
Speaker 1: and not even the right word to use, because in
Speaker 1: the case of dual lingo, I think in a couple
Speaker 1: of examples that I have seen that I just remembered
Speaker 1: it was funny. At least the ones that I saw
Speaker 1: were funny. Maybe sometimes there are some vulgarities there.
Speaker 2: I find the scrub daddy stuff to go way too far,
Speaker 2: especially for Instagram, because there are children that you know
Speaker 2: it's there and like seek it out.
Speaker 1: But if it brings in, like if your sales go
Speaker 1: up and you gain popularity and followers online, it's no
Speaker 1: wonder that other companies are going to do the same thing.
Speaker 2: Well, and it's a lot of companies they jump on
Speaker 2: each other's stuff and leave inappropriate comments.
Speaker 3: Which is I think what you saw a little bit
Speaker 3: with Freeedo Baby.
Speaker 2: So the director of packaging who has since been removed
Speaker 2: from the website. This has become such a big deal
Speaker 2: and so many people are going over to Freedom Mom
Speaker 2: that they took the meat the team down.
Speaker 1: Do you want to provide some examples since we haven't
Speaker 1: as a about what it is that you were discussing.
Speaker 1: So Free to Baby has their online accounts, This on Instagram,
Speaker 1: one's on X that I'm looking at it.
Speaker 2: It's on Instagram, but they've kind of scrubbed the Instagram
Speaker 2: because it's become such a big deal. Their X page,
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if they've scrubbed it, but.
Speaker 1: Making some like sexually explicit, but like the semi borderline,
Speaker 1: like witty, so it's not too blatantly like discuss things.
Speaker 2: I think that it's a bunch of gen zers that
Speaker 2: thought it was funny. But because it's like it's products
Speaker 2: for babies, it's completely discussing and inappropriate.
Speaker 1: And given everything that's going on right now.
Speaker 2: So everything going on right now and with kids and
Speaker 2: the sexualization of children, I find it to be very distasteful.
Speaker 3: Again, maybe it's just me being uppity, like I can't.
Speaker 1: Even I want to provide you guys with examples of
Speaker 1: what we're talking about her Maybe you're familiar with it.
Speaker 1: But this one right now I'm looking at right now,
Speaker 1: I don't think I can read. Hopefully it's not in missard. Okay, camera,
Speaker 1: you can read this one.
Speaker 3: Okay, well, okay, So they have a snotsucker. I own it.
Speaker 2: I didn't know any of this when I bought this stuff.
Speaker 2: So I own the quick thermometer, the three and one thermometer,
Speaker 2: the snotsucker, and the nebulizer, all from Free to Baby.
Speaker 2: I use their oh crap cradle cap. That's what it's
Speaker 2: literally called, oh crap cradle cap.
Speaker 1: You have a problem with stuff like that. I had a.
Speaker 2: Problem with it that it didn't work, But no, I
Speaker 2: don't have a problem so much with that. It's a
Speaker 2: little weird to put crap on like whatever. Like when
Speaker 2: I got the bottle, I was like, that's weird, and
Speaker 2: that was kind of the and then I squirt it
Speaker 2: on his head and moved on with my day. But
Speaker 2: the snotsucker, which Mike absolutely hates that that thing. I
Speaker 2: was trying to vacumunt his nose and he was like
Speaker 2: acting like I was just torturing him. On the side
Speaker 2: of the box, it says I'm a power sucker and
Speaker 2: so that one, like, I guess I just didn't even
Speaker 2: notice that one there, right, And then on their humidifier
Speaker 2: on the box, it says, I get turned on easily
Speaker 2: because it's like a touch humidifier.
Speaker 3: But we all know what they're saying.
Speaker 1: So this is their product packaging.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the three and one thermometer I just bought. And
Speaker 2: I did notice this box when I bought it. It
Speaker 2: was literally right before we left for our trip. On
Speaker 2: the side, it says, how about a quickie? And I
Speaker 2: just like and then like they have a rectal thermometer.
Speaker 1: Cuse okay, yeah, yeah, okay, No, don't take this too far.
Speaker 1: I just don't want to. It's it's so blatantly like
Speaker 1: over the top.
Speaker 3: Well, I wasn't gonna read all of them. It just
Speaker 3: says this is the closest your husband's going to get
Speaker 3: to a three song.
Speaker 1: See unnecessary, especially if you make good products. Let your
Speaker 1: product speak for yourself and just come up with some
Speaker 1: very straightforward advertising and marketing because it's it's their products
Speaker 1: for babies, and it is there parents that are buying it.
Speaker 1: I guess this is my biggest thing. Yeah, if you're
Speaker 1: talking about a sponging will be clever because it has
Speaker 1: a face and maybe like whatever, right, But when you're
Speaker 1: talking about parents, or especially like young parents like that
Speaker 1: are that are dealing with their six week old baby,
Speaker 1: like nobody wants to think or like being that mindset
Speaker 1: when considering a product to use on that very.
Speaker 3: Child freedom mom stuff's pretty bad too.
Speaker 2: It's just like very insensitive, Like it makes you feel
Speaker 2: like you're after you give birth and you're like gross
Speaker 2: and stretched down.
Speaker 1: A Brett Cooper example.
Speaker 2: Like Brett Cooper was talking about she got like the
Speaker 2: postpartum Kit and then she's like, literally I was reading
Speaker 2: the box and I was she was telling her Husban
Speaker 2: all it's like I just like this makes me feel
Speaker 2: like ichy.
Speaker 3: I don't like it. I don't like this brand.
Speaker 2: And then because it was like it talks about like
Speaker 2: clean yourself up, you're gross and like you're all stretched
Speaker 2: out now, and like.
Speaker 3: These kind of references that just are not what you like.
Speaker 2: It should be about, you know, the beauty of motherhood
Speaker 2: and self care, and like it was just inappropriate. But
Speaker 2: then when you look at the meet the team, it
Speaker 2: makes sense. It's a bunch of young people that aren't parents.
Speaker 1: So they're all like one of these parents, but they
Speaker 1: literally go out of their way to point.
Speaker 2: Out that they're not parents, Like none of them are
Speaker 2: parents except for the CEO. All of these people are
Speaker 2: like order processing specialist, dog mom, proud title, senior international
Speaker 2: e commerce manager. Technically I'm a parent. He just has
Speaker 2: four legs, a tail, and zero respect for human space
Speaker 2: personal space. A brand director is just a dog. First
Speaker 2: of all, that's my child. And then like the guy
Speaker 2: low Hers, like you know, I'm not a parent, but no.
Speaker 1: The heart stepped on enough ran director of packaging. That
Speaker 1: guy that you mention the hardest thing about being a
Speaker 1: parent or the kids, Wow, he loves children. Good for you.
Speaker 1: I think your kids never see that.
Speaker 2: I mean, to me, the worst thing is a picture
Speaker 2: of the baby when the snotsucker kind of went a
Speaker 2: rye and went all over their face. The reference to
Speaker 2: that picture is so disgusting, Like I don't know the
Speaker 2: worst one, that's by far the worst one, and it's
Speaker 2: somebody else's baby, and I just find that So.
Speaker 1: So what do you mean of somebody else's bab.
Speaker 2: I mean that's somebody sent that in as like probably
Speaker 2: funny of like, look what happened to my baby, and
Speaker 2: then they put the caption what.
Speaker 1: Do I do with this for the sake of the
Speaker 1: podcast episode? Do I put this stuff off on screen?
Speaker 1: I can't with that.
Speaker 2: There's I have a picture where the baby's blocked out. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but I mean there's just like all kinds of stuff
Speaker 2: on here, like relax well from here. It just it's
Speaker 2: so inappropriate, and it's every box and every product.
Speaker 3: It's not like, oh, you're just taking that too.
Speaker 1: Far again, I feel like I cannot you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm just going to put this one up on screen
Speaker 1: and everyone can read it for them.
Speaker 2: So it's important to show this stuff is hanging at Target,
Speaker 2: It's hanging in the shelves at Target.
Speaker 1: What are we doing? Like, where where do things go
Speaker 1: from here?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean the fact that we can not normalize this,
Speaker 1: but the fact that we all become so numb to.
Speaker 2: It's like if you don't think it's funny, then then
Speaker 2: you're just such a boomer, you know, Like I'm.
Speaker 1: Just I guess I'm just a little more disturbed by
Speaker 1: the fact that, like you said, this stuff is right
Speaker 1: like literally on their box. But even you said acknowledge
Speaker 1: you didn't even notice it because you've just kind of
Speaker 1: liked the whole bad money thing. We're so numbs to it.
Speaker 1: You you literally have just come to expect it and
Speaker 1: it doesn't even impact or affective in the way that
Speaker 1: maybe it should.
Speaker 2: Right, Well, yeah, I think we see it on you know,
Speaker 2: we see it on television, We see it in our advertising,
Speaker 2: we see it all over Instagram and Facebook.
Speaker 3: Ad can pains to desensitize.
Speaker 2: You become desensitized to it, and then it becomes like, oh,
Speaker 2: like if you if you don't think it's funny, then
Speaker 2: you're just old.
Speaker 1: It was dark tune like that. Yeah, that's the threesome one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, with the baby in that.
Speaker 1: That's beyond right, like dark, it's just dis yeah what.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I think that they totally miss the market.
Speaker 2: They're definitely hurting right now for it because a bunch
Speaker 2: of people are going in and finally, I mean, I'm
Speaker 2: assuming that they're going to revamp their packaging. If they
Speaker 2: don't they double down, then they're probably going to lose
Speaker 2: a lot of parents because parents aren't finding this gen
Speaker 2: Z humor funny.
Speaker 1: Are the products good though you've been using them?
Speaker 2: So I'm yeah, I mean I think the products are fine.
Speaker 2: I don't think that they's superior to any other products.
Speaker 2: They just they happen to be like a good cheap
Speaker 2: price point when they were available.
Speaker 1: On Amazon, Like, yeah, do we have to do this?
Speaker 2: I don't write it's unnecessary and it's inappropriate, and it
Speaker 2: sexualizes children, and it sexualizes parenthood and the innocence and
Speaker 2: the beauty of that, and it just kind of corrupts
Speaker 2: it and makes it something dirty and funny when it's
Speaker 2: something beautiful and pure and of God.
Speaker 1: And I just how did you catch win of this?
Speaker 2: Uh, it's just it's all over right now. People are
Speaker 2: just I've seen a bunch of I saw it on
Speaker 2: I saw the one thing on the box, and then
Speaker 2: I thought back on the cradle cap thing, and I
Speaker 2: thought like, okay, that's I told Nevada, I think gen
Speaker 2: Z is doing their marketing.
Speaker 3: But I didn't know.
Speaker 2: I had never gone down their Instagram page and looked
Speaker 2: at how disturbing.
Speaker 1: It is as the brand different now.
Speaker 2: But yeah, well my yeah, I unless they revamp their packaging,
Speaker 2: I guess, you know, you just got to do it
Speaker 2: with your ad dollars. But I mean even responses that
Speaker 2: they have like Netflix.
Speaker 3: Wrote what is something?
Speaker 2: Netflix writes a post on x saying, what is something
Speaker 2: that you can say during? But also when you manage
Speaker 2: a brand Twitter account, freeedo Baby jumps in there and
Speaker 2: they're like, oh, something you can say during and also
Speaker 2: something you would say is yeah in your mouth?
Speaker 1: I get it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what on earth? Hashtag knows freeda, which is our
Speaker 2: first product? Like your product is gross enough, but not
Speaker 2: having to add all that so.
Speaker 1: It's not the bote too much time to is so.
Speaker 2: Anyway, Yeah, I just again, it kind of just goes
Speaker 2: back to like can't we all just do better? Like
Speaker 2: why does everything have to be dirty? Why does everything
Speaker 2: have to be like a raunchy joke in order to
Speaker 2: be funny.
Speaker 1: Because you're a stubborn bad bunny fan.
Speaker 3: No, I'm not a bad bunny fan at all.
Speaker 2: Like no, Like I think he's inappropriate too, Like why
Speaker 2: can't we just all do better? Why can't we just
Speaker 2: get back to like wholesome family stuff. Why is it
Speaker 2: only people that grew up with the wholesome not the
Speaker 2: wholesome neess.
Speaker 1: It's not flashy, it's not the dope mean here, it's
Speaker 1: not sexy, it's not appealing to most people nowadays, given
Speaker 1: what it is that we have access to.
Speaker 2: That's the reason why, I mean even comedians, like comedians
Speaker 2: just aren't even considered funny unless they're so raunchy and
Speaker 2: they're so over the top. The Netflix specials by every
Speaker 2: single comedian, you can't have your children watch any of that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's non marketed at kids. But like, my favorite
Speaker 1: comedians are those that are are clean and clever. You
Speaker 1: can come up with a bit that's really clever and
Speaker 1: like right in front of your face and very abundantly obvious,
Speaker 1: but you have some like weird, bizarre outlook on it,
Speaker 1: and that's what makes it funny. Like those are my
Speaker 1: favorite kind.
Speaker 3: I think that's harder to be funny though it is.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yeah for sure.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I just kind of wish everybody could
Speaker 2: do a little bit better. And we need to be
Speaker 2: really careful when we're talking about our children or anybody
Speaker 2: else's children, to like, let's keep this PG their kids,
Speaker 2: let them be kids, let them be innocent. Let's not
Speaker 2: make adult jokes around kids and say like, oh, well,
Speaker 2: the kids don't get it. Like I think it started
Speaker 2: with Shrek. Remember, like Shrek is funny, but it does
Speaker 2: have some adult humor that was like not necessarily a
Speaker 2: lot of in you, I know.
Speaker 3: And they say like, oh, that's for the parents.
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, but the kids are watching too, and
Speaker 2: kids are clever and kids aren't stupid. They catch on
Speaker 2: to this stuff, and it's just why are we normalizing
Speaker 2: it for children? Even if it's geared for the parents,
Speaker 2: when it involves children, it's unnecessary. We all need to
Speaker 2: do better, Yeah.
Speaker 1: For sure. All right on that note, so I appreciate
Speaker 1: you guys being here once again. We will see you
Speaker 1: next week. Yes, yep, anything else you want to plug
Speaker 1: in here in the meantime.
Speaker 3: I don't think so.
Speaker 1: Sure, Yeah you feel better? Do you feel better?
Speaker 3: I mean, and I think people are going to be
Speaker 3: just as upset.
Speaker 2: I just it's just kind of where amount as a mom,
Speaker 2: maybe I'm just maybe I just am in a place
Speaker 2: where I want to see anything geared towards kids to
Speaker 2: just be a little bit more.
Speaker 1: It causes stress a little bit more. When you get
Speaker 1: a bunch of people, even just typing words online that
Speaker 1: are directed you, it causes a little bit of stress.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what causes you to like, okay, was I off, like,
Speaker 2: am I not thinking clearly?
Speaker 3: Am Am I wrong in thinking this?
Speaker 1: And I appreciate that for that very reason, like it
Speaker 1: causes you to reflect and be like, no, let me
Speaker 1: revisit this.
Speaker 6: Here.
Speaker 1: Was I right? And you know, like we're not perfect people.
Speaker 1: We will make this and if we do make a mistake,
Speaker 1: will come in here. But in this case, you felt
Speaker 1: okay about what she said?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I really did.
Speaker 2: And then like funny, the very next day, I watched
Speaker 2: Elie Bestuccy talk about it, and I thought that she
Speaker 2: did a much more eloquent job of explaining pretty much
Speaker 2: the exact same thing that I was saying. So after
Speaker 2: I listened to her podcast, I was like, yeah, that's
Speaker 2: like what I was trying to say. Maybe I just
Speaker 2: didn't say it in a good way.
Speaker 3: Maybe I didn't explain myself correctly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that'll happen.
Speaker 2: But yeah, she does a good job of explaining what
Speaker 2: I'm trying to say. If anyone wants to check that out,
Speaker 2: all right, this.
Speaker 1: Mine this one down, mama. So I appreciate all you
Speaker 1: guys out there, Thank you for being here. Once again.
Speaker 1: We'll see you next week here on New or Botsol
Speaker 1: Good sup a Living video will be out on Saturday. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can catch that. In the meantime, you guys, take
Speaker 1: care of God bless We'll see you next week.