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Speaker 1: I am joking just to make this like super duper clear,

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Speaker 1: You mean set the stage here in real time. It's

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Speaker 3: In the Sunday school. And we see this in churches,

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Speaker 1: We can discount a person's past, all that has to

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Speaker 3: It's not that he's just like this, you know, like yes,

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Speaker 3: He's still a little rough around the edges. And that's fine.

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Speaker 3: Yes, that's the song.

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Speaker 3: A lot of people were like, I didn't hear any bad.

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Speaker 1: It's artistic expression. And maybe some people have a very

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Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever considered you to be one

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Speaker 2: I just want to I mean, people were calling it

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Speaker 3: I don't know that Turning Point did so.

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Speaker 2: We didn't expect anything good from him. I expected that.

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Speaker 3: That to suck.

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Speaker 1: There were no curse words in his performance. They were retracted.

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Speaker 2: They were retracted instead of using the effort because people

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Speaker 3: No, he actually said fight.

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Speaker 1: Not that that's read either. He's on Marvel Choice Television

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Speaker 1: You pointed out that Kid Rock during his performance actually swore.

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Speaker 2: This is this is what it is, and this is

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Speaker 2: for the questions that don't have answers. The Midnight Glancers

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Speaker 2: and the topless Dancers, the can of Freaks, cars packed

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Speaker 2: All the hookers that are tricking out in Hollywood like this.

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Speaker 2: He sang this live the Alternative Halftime Show.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that song, and I'm not going to like that

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Speaker 1: for kid rock. First, well, I thinks hilarious that you're

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Speaker 3: I know read how old I am.

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Speaker 1: That song is from when we were in high school.

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Speaker 3: I remember so I heard it and I was like, oh.

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Speaker 1: Like that's what he said. His entire messaging with his

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Speaker 2: Like for me, I loved the symbolism. I loved this

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Speaker 2: And then the name goes out, and then there's that

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Speaker 3: Yes, and then he's.

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Speaker 2: Reintroduced as Richie right, his real name, and he comes

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Speaker 2: I just wish that maybe, like maybe if he had

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Speaker 2: Sing verse one and then like the like I feel

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Speaker 3: I don't know, you know what.

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Speaker 2: I just want to see everybody doing better and everyone

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Speaker 3: Why does it always have to be dirty? Why does

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Speaker 3: It was really good. It was clean. I mean, I

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Speaker 2: People were upset that they felt that I was judging

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Speaker 3: I would never do that.

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Speaker 2: Kid Rock could be a completely changed person, and I

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Speaker 1: You were questioning his authenticity in the moment as Parmy,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he has lyrics in a song that's young.

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Speaker 3: On, like yeah, like yeah, that used to be me.

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Speaker 3: But when you say that you.

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Speaker 2: They're judging your past, or judging your education, They're judging

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Speaker 2: It's an interview judgment. You're judging the way that they

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Speaker 2: you had listened to Jiminy Cricket, Like, we judge people

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Speaker 3: Sometimes people just feel off.

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Speaker 2: And as parents, you have to judge people to know

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Speaker 3: And if you're not.

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Speaker 2: Making judgments because you feel like you can't, then you're

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Speaker 1: always think that it has some weights behind it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Like a judgment is something that is cast from somebody

443
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Speaker 1: with a means of authority, right, you know what I mean.

444
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Speaker 1: And I think biblically that's what we're referring to as well. Yeah,

445
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Speaker 1: but you to a form year own opinion to have

446
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Speaker 1: that discernment, exercise that discernment is not the same thing.

447
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't say like that person's not safe. Like

448
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Speaker 2: if I came on here and I was like, I

449
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Speaker 2: don't leave Kid Rock and I don't think he's saved,

450
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Speaker 2: and I think he's going to Hell, that's judging somebody's salvation. Ye.

451
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Speaker 1: Just still, there's no judgment. You're not changing anything, You're

452
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Speaker 1: not altering his life moving forward. That's you're expressing an

453
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Speaker 1: opinion based on your own analysis and discernment. That's not

454
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Speaker 1: the same as judgment. That's what I mean. All Right, Guys,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I have to agree, but Angel is actually breaking

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this week I was exploring some of the new

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Speaker 2: So, if you're tired of the same old streaming platforms

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Speaker 2: Definitely go check out Angel Studios.

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Speaker 2: to angel dot com. Slash nWo has to become a

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Speaker 2: Premium Angel Guild member. I think that it just gets

490
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Speaker 2: used out of context, and then everybody goes around judging

491
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Speaker 2: people throughout their lives. That's how you know who's good

492
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Speaker 2: to have in your life and who's not good to

493
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Speaker 2: have in your life. You make a judgment on whether

494
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Speaker 2: or not you're going to date someone when you're on

495
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Speaker 2: a date. You make a judgment on whether or not

496
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Speaker 2: you're going to have a second date with somebody. These

497
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Speaker 2: are judgments, so like you can't say, well, I can't

498
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Speaker 2: judge that person. And they totally gave me the ick

499
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Speaker 2: and I didn't really like that. They've you know, served

500
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Speaker 2: some time in prison. But he asked me on a

501
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Speaker 2: second date, and I shouldn't judge him, like.

502
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Speaker 3: No, of course not. You shouldn't go on a second

503
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Speaker 3: date with that person.

504
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Speaker 1: So, if I'm hearing you right, you're doubling down. Basically,

505
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Speaker 1: you were not ashamed you expressed.

506
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Speaker 2: I am saying that I think that that the verse

507
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Speaker 2: is used is cherry picked and used anytime that somebody

508
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Speaker 2: doesn't like what you're saying.

509
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Speaker 1: I'm saying with with what it is that you've expressed

510
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Speaker 1: on the podcast episode last week that got you in

511
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Speaker 1: a little bit of trouble.

512
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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I mean, I I stand by what I said.

513
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Speaker 2: He wouldn't have been my first choice because I, like,

514
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Speaker 2: I really found the first song to be not family friendly, inappropriate,

515
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Speaker 2: and not necessary, and so I kind of wish that

516
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Speaker 2: he had made a different choice in that regard. And

517
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Speaker 2: you know, but I mean, I understand the symbolism. I

518
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Speaker 2: think the story was beautiful.

519
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Speaker 1: I just yeah, his messaging was great. The part of

520
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Speaker 1: this that really bothered me. And it is like when

521
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Speaker 1: you were referencing thisbody put like this was off brand

522
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,480
Speaker 1: for us. We don't come in here or do anything

523
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Speaker 1: that we eventually post online with the mindset of like,

524
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Speaker 1: oh is this on brand, Like, we're not those people.

525
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Speaker 1: I know that there are a lot of people that

526
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Speaker 1: operate online like that, we are not one of them.

527
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Speaker 1: Another thing that stood out to me that I felt

528
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Speaker 1: like I wanted to address is just the fact that, like, well,

529
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Speaker 1: you guys should have done more research before talking about

530
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Speaker 1: this subject. Do we always do a lot of research? No?

531
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Speaker 1: Do we do? Sometimes do we not do any research?

532
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Speaker 1: Looking at myself in prett regular Yeah, it doesn't mean

533
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Speaker 1: that I can't come in here and also express my opinion.

534
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Speaker 1: This is not a news outlet. We are not a

535
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Speaker 1: legacy media source for all of you to come on

536
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Speaker 1: here and educate yourself. Sometimes we're just expressing our opinions.

537
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:39,840
Speaker 1: We've said this before, like.

538
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Speaker 2: If something's going on in the news or that a

539
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Speaker 2: lot of people are talking about it, sometimes we don't

540
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Speaker 2: want to go on and listen to what everyone else

541
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Speaker 2: is saying about it and then parrot that.

542
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Sometimes it's done intentionally.

543
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Speaker 2: Yeah, because we want to be more authentic and that

544
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Speaker 2: like we're not just repeating what everybody else is repeating,

545
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Speaker 2: Like there was definitely like a narrative around the whole thing.

546
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's what other people it was like

547
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Speaker 1: I thought you guys were on this side, and so

548
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Speaker 1: you should have been parroting what everybody else.

549
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 2: Also narrative, this is unexpected, like everybody celebrated this and

550
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Speaker 2: you're poking holes.

551
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Speaker 1: And I will say, as a result, does that mean

552
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Speaker 1: that you guys are going to be sometimes right when

553
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Speaker 1: you say that we're dumb and we shouldn't speak about

554
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Speaker 1: certain things? One hundred percent. We're not coming in here

555
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 1: trying to be correct or right. We're just expressing our opinions.

556
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Speaker 1: I feel like I've said this before, I pointed this out.

557
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Speaker 2: Yeah, like if you were at our house for a

558
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Speaker 2: barbecue and we're just talking about this stuff, this is

559
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Speaker 2: how we talk about it.

560
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Speaker 3: You're like you're just talking with your friends and.

561
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Speaker 1: Stuff that doesn't jive for anybody out there. As if

562
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Speaker 1: you were like, I understand it, I respect it, I

563
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Speaker 1: do appreciate the feedback like that feedback is always one

564
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Speaker 1: hundred percent welcomed here, and I'm not I would never

565
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Speaker 1: make the claim like, oh, we're right and anybody else

566
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Speaker 1: is wrong, or you guys are right and we were

567
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Speaker 1: one hundred percent roight, Like I'm glad that you're standing

568
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Speaker 1: up for what it is. That you believe in and

569
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Speaker 1: you're you're standing by what it is that you reference.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, and I'm glad that people ask me

571
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Speaker 3: to clarify. But yeah, so to clarify, we hadn't read

572
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Speaker 3: the Bad Bunny lyrics.

573
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Speaker 2: They were worse, and we thought, apparently he didn't sing

574
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Speaker 2: the worst of parts, but the song is inappropriate. It

575
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Speaker 2: should not have been performed. I found the dancing to

576
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Speaker 2: be discussing. I found the choice to be completely pointless

577
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Speaker 2: and a total just kind of up tours from the NFL.

578
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Speaker 3: So I didn't like that.

579
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Speaker 2: I wasn't meaning to defend Bad Money in any way,

580
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Speaker 2: Like I really thought that was a garbage show. I

581
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Speaker 2: really liked the turning point one. I thought all of

582
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Speaker 2: it was great. I thought all of the performers were

583
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Speaker 2: really wonderful. I just didn't like that one little portion

584
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Speaker 2: that I thought could have been nixed. Like if it

585
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Speaker 2: were up to me, I would have been like, eh, Richie,

586
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Speaker 2: could we maybe like that a little early, like, maybe

587
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Speaker 2: don't perform the full verse one because there's some you know,

588
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Speaker 2: children that are gonna be listening to this as a

589
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Speaker 2: safe alternative, and it's in English, and there's some references

590
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Speaker 2: to some shady characters.

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Speaker 1: Okay, there you go. So you guys make sense of

592
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Speaker 1: our mindset coming in here last week and saying what

593
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Speaker 1: we said.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, maybe that's just gonna make people more mad,

595
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Speaker 3: so bed.

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Speaker 1: Okay, moving on, staying on the topic of mostly kind

597
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Speaker 1: of catching a lot of flak this week, reluctantly sold

598
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Speaker 1: our horse, LExEN. And for those of you who have

599
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Speaker 1: been watching Good Simple Living for quite a long time,

600
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Speaker 1: know that he was our horse. You said three years

601
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Speaker 1: on the video. I think it's been more than three years,

602
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Speaker 1: though it has.

603
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Speaker 2: I think it was, yeah, four years in September, maybe

604
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Speaker 2: four years, so it's been like three and a half.

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Speaker 1: Regardless, it's something that we were bummed to have to do.

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Speaker 1: We tried to lay it out for everybody out there

607
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Speaker 1: ahead of time. But Melissa in the comments once again

608
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Speaker 1: like people were just giving mama like it's been a

609
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Speaker 1: tough week from a tough week. Yeah, try to be

610
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Speaker 1: very receptive to everything. Like I just mentioned a second ago,

611
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Speaker 1: that everybody has to say with regards to anything to

612
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Speaker 1: put out there, I appreciate your input, appreciate you watching.

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Speaker 1: And we tried to lay the foundational groundwork for like, hey,

614
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Speaker 1: we're making plans to sell the horse here. But I

615
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Speaker 1: think seeing lex In back in the trailer.

616
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Speaker 3: Showed his eyes just look sad. That's just a look

617
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Speaker 3: on his face. His eyes always look like that.

618
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Speaker 1: No, but we were both really sad about it. And

619
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Speaker 1: but then people, I think a lot of horse people,

620
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Speaker 1: maybe non horse.

621
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Speaker 3: People, non horse people, you shouldn't.

622
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Speaker 1: You shouldn't have another animal. How dare you get rid

623
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Speaker 1: of that horse? That poor horse. The worst thing that

624
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Speaker 1: ever happened to that horse was meeting you.

625
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean no, I don't think so. He was

626
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Speaker 3: on the reds when I found him.

627
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Speaker 1: Explain yourself.

628
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Speaker 2: No, actually he was on the farm at Root sixty six,

629
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Speaker 2: so he was fine over there. But he would have

630
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Speaker 2: been sold to who knows, you know.

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Speaker 5: But anyway, so with LExEN as a as a young rider,

632
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Speaker 5: there was not a horse that I wouldn't ride, Like,

633
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Speaker 5: I'm not afraid of riding.

634
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Speaker 2: Like Jeremy seeing me ride and it made him really

635
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Speaker 2: nervous because he's like, Okay, you look care like you're

636
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 2: just like running down the stretch.

637
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Speaker 1: You would cut that one corner. Yeah, I'm not a

638
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 1: horse guy. Melissa is very talented with with riding, and

639
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,439
Speaker 1: she would just haul chi booty and cut these corns on,

640
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:49,640
Speaker 1: like please don't follow.

641
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've done barrels and things like that. So like,

642
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 2: my balance on a horse is really good. I feel

643
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 2: really confident of horse changes directions that I can. You know,

644
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Speaker 2: I'm I have a you know, I'm sticky, so I can.

645
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Speaker 2: But I'm not afraid of LExEN. But I know that

646
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 2: Lexin is capable of hurting somebody and it doesn't take much.

647
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Speaker 1: She was erratic.

648
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 2: He was very erratic, and he was very spooky, and

649
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Speaker 2: so that was a problem for me, and I didn't

650
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Speaker 2: know that about him when I got him. And people

651
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 2: are like, you can't just sell a horse that doesn't

652
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Speaker 2: work for you. You have to make it work. No,

653
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 2: you don't. You don't have to make it work. And

654
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:25,880
Speaker 2: if you force it and you try to make something

655
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Speaker 2: a fit, that isn't a fit.

656
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 3: This is how people get killed or paralyzed.

657
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Speaker 2: And that horse bucked off my cousin and broke his

658
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Speaker 2: back and his ribs. Now, he's never bucked with me,

659
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 2: but when I saw that, I knew that he was

660
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 2: then capable of it.

661
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 1: And sorry, Matty about that.

662
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 2: I didn't know that that horse was capable of that,

663
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 2: and that was two years into owning him. We sent

664
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 2: him to trainers, We hired people, we tried, and what

665
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 2: every trainer told us at the end was this is

666
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 2: not a family horse. And the last trainer had him

667
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 2: for two months, bunch of money into them, and she

668
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 2: was like, you need to sell him. He's not ever

669
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 2: going to be a family I don't like.

670
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 1: Hearing that though, And they'll just take thousand excused, like yeah.

671
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 1: The mentality seemed to be like, hey, you took this

672
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 1: horse all like, he's not your responsibility for life.

673
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 2: But I feel like because they're like, oh, you know,

674
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 2: I adopt animals and I would never move an animal.

675
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 2: I said, well, are you a parent? And no, the

676
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 2: dogs are my Okay, you're not a parent.

677
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 1: Well, not all animals are the same, right.

678
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 2: Like if you're talking at a cat, now, if you're

679
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 2: talking about a dog, I said, well, would you keep

680
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 2: a dog if you found out that it bites?

681
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 3: I know my dogs don't bite.

682
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 2: No dogs are animals, And I know people personally that

683
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 2: have had dogs for three and four years that all

684
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 2: of a sudden bit somebody.

685
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 1: Loodle's not biting anywhere.

686
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 2: I mean he's a Golden retriever. This is kind of

687
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 2: breed specific. But let's say you adopt pit bulls. I'm

688
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 2: going to pick on that breed for a second.

689
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,239
Speaker 1: Because before we even go there, I've owned three pit

690
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 1: boles in my life.

691
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 3: I've owned two, just so we're on the stackage here.

692
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 2: One was a nightmare. One was very docile. Yeah, but

693
00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 2: was he capable?

694
00:29:58,480 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 3: I don't know.

695
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 2: I mean it's breed specific. So let's say that you

696
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 2: adopt pipples. They're very, very sweet. You have a child

697
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 2: two years in the child pulls on in the ear

698
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 2: or something like a baby would do like Micah has

699
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 2: no you know, he would pull and roll all over

700
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 2: a dog he doesn't have any pole hair things, and

701
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 2: the dog gets annoyed and bites. Do you then feel

702
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 2: obligated to keep that dog over the safety of your child.

703
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 2: If you do, you have no business being a parent.

704
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 2: And I feel the same way with horses, only horses

705
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 2: are bigger and they're more capable of destruction and hurting

706
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 2: and killing and maiming.

707
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 1: It's a bad analogy in a sense though, because Lexin

708
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 1: didn't have the personality and demeanor of like uh of,

709
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 1: he wasn't violent. I mean, I think I suppose all

710
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 1: of them are capable, because there's thousand pound animals, but.

711
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 3: The horses are capable. But there's good fits and bad fit.

712
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 1: Was gonna say it was just simply a compatibility issue

713
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 1: between him and also he was a great horse. I

714
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 1: missed him tremendously like that. When he was driving off,

715
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 1: I was legitimately bummed. Yeah, so was I.

716
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 3: I thought Lexon was going to be my forever horse.

717
00:30:58,320 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 6: Yeah.

718
00:30:58,680 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 3: Picked him out. I loved him.

719
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 2: His grand manners were amazing him and I actually rode

720
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 2: really well together. But yeah, it sucks just knowing that

721
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 2: he's capable, and more than capable because he's very spooky,

722
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 2: so he would just fly off whenever, like you never

723
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 2: knew when something was going to set Lexon off. And

724
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 2: I thought, if I wasn't paying attention or I had

725
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 2: my feet out of the stirrups, or I was you know,

726
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 2: something happened and I got you know, paralyzed, or I

727
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 2: broke something or worse, it would just be so irresponsible.

728
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 2: And then to be able to look back and say,

729
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 2: you know, I always kind of knew this about this horse.

730
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 3: I knew he was a risk.

731
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 2: As a parent, I think Anybody who's ever been a

732
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 2: parent knows that your worst fear is something happening to

733
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 2: your children, but your next worst fear is something happening

734
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 2: to you and leaving your children, because like I know,

735
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 2: that's like a huge fear of mine, because then it's like, then,

736
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 2: what who's going to be their mom? Are they going

737
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 2: to have a mom? Are is she going to be

738
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 2: mean to them? Are they going to get what they need?

739
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 2: Is there going to be this gaping hole in their lives?

740
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 2: Like I fear leaving my children almost more than anything else.

741
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 3: Like it's this nagging fear.

742
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 2: And I remember my mom telling me that when I

743
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 2: was a kid, and when I became eighteen, she's like,

744
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 2: I feel sad that you guys aren't little anymore, but

745
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 2: I feel relief because every day I worried about leaving

746
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 2: you and having something happen. And so I have that

747
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 2: fear too. And you can say it's an irrational fear,

748
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 2: but I think every parent has it.

749
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 1: I definitely have it the entire time. I'm also a

750
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 1: cough leaving the house every day. It was a tremendous

751
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 1: fear of mind.

752
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, So, and I know that, yes, you can step

753
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 2: off a curve and you can get smacked by a

754
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 2: bus right or you can get sick and that's outside

755
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 2: of your control. But you can minimize risk. And I

756
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 2: think as parents it's smart to minimize risk to yourself

757
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 2: and to your children. I mean, there's so many men

758
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 2: that are like as soon as I became a dad,

759
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 2: when my baby was born, I sold my motorcycle, like

760
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 2: you hear that all the time. Or I sold my

761
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 2: little car, my little race car that I always thought

762
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 2: I would have.

763
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: That le is dangerous again, I'm trying to pound home that. Yeah,

764
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 1: it just was. It became a compatibility thing, Like we're

765
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 1: getting older. Sorry mama, but riding at forty two is

766
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 1: not the same as riding at sixteen.

767
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 3: You don't bounce like you don't bounce like.

768
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 1: You used to. You don't have the same balance that

769
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 1: you once did, and the situation is just different. We've

770
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 1: got five kids, four kids that were still really responsible

771
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 1: for caring for day to day and it's just it

772
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 1: didn't it didn't suit our life. Currently with word is

773
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 1: that we find ourselves. I want to work too. We

774
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 1: want to get another horse, because it's still a dream

775
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 1: of Melissa and I to be able to ride around here,

776
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 1: and you know, so we need to find another like Super.

777
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 3: We need another Bruse.

778
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, we need another Blue, something that like we can

779
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 1: both confidently hop on and yep, they're just very sound

780
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:46,959
Speaker 1: and won't take off on anyone.

781
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 2: I need the horses that I know when the kids say,

782
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 2: can we go out and ride? I don't have to

783
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 2: go out there and wear them out or ride them

784
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 2: first or anything. I want the kids to be able

785
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 2: to go out there and be confident and be safe

786
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 2: and be able to jump on bare back and ride around.

787
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 2: And every horse is capable of being a horse, but

788
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 2: there are some that are far less Like I really

789
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 2: really would be surprised if Blue did anything stupid because

790
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 2: he never has.

791
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:10,760
Speaker 1: So you don't have to. You shouldn't have to explain

792
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 1: yourself to anybody. But so much of the feedback we

793
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 1: got was negative and kind of targeted at you. But

794
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 1: this is this is something that and people are just

795
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 1: going to like, you're not going to convince anybody to

796
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 1: just say that you're trying to justify it. But it's

797
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 1: very common in like the horse community to because again,

798
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,800
Speaker 1: the compatibility is such a major factor when when finding

799
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 1: and committee to a work.

800
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 2: You can't tell. Like when you go test ride a horse,

801
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 2: you can't tell. They can be so great in the

802
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 2: arena that you're riding them in, and then you get

803
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 2: them back to your house and they're still great, and

804
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 2: then their true colors start to show over the course

805
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 2: of like six months or even a year, like little

806
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 2: little quirks, little things like.

807
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 3: That you didn't know set them off.

808
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,800
Speaker 1: Like dating somebody, Yeah, exactly, can't tell from a first day.

809
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 2: You can't like things that you didn't know scared them

810
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 2: like you could. Everything's been fine. They've been desensitized in

811
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 2: so many ways. Yeah, yeah, or a snake.

812
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,280
Speaker 1: Was across the path, or not the horse, but anyway.

813
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,359
Speaker 2: I mean, like with Debbie, she was really calm, but

814
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 2: like one day I dropped my cell phone and she

815
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 2: reared up, slipped over, pulled the whole round pen onto her.

816
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 2: I mean it was insane because I dropped my phone.

817
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 1: I was crazy, Like where did that come from? The

818
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:20,959
Speaker 1: pony we had? I think a lot of this also

819
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 1: stems from the fact that we have gotten rid of

820
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 1: We got rid of Debbie, we got rid of Cota,

821
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 1: and now you're gonna ready to getting Redlex.

822
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 3: It's hard to find a good fit horse.

823
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 2: Horses have on average like ten owners, sometimes up to

824
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 2: twenty owners because horses are horsey, and you have to

825
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 2: find the right fit of horse and person and you

826
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,799
Speaker 2: can't force it. And so sometimes you have a horse

827
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 2: for six months and you're like, this isn't a good fit.

828
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 2: You have to be open to that, otherwise you're gonna

829
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 2: get stuck with a horse that is going to hurt

830
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 2: you or just you're not going to enjoy.

831
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: Horses are horsey, Okay, yeah, for future reference.

832
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 3: Yes, horses are horsey.

833
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,399
Speaker 2: So I mean ages are No, they're animals, and they're

834
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 2: big animals. So I don't even know if the next

835
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 2: one will be right for Again, it is.

836
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,919
Speaker 1: What it is. We are shopping for a replacement horse.

837
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 1: I'm sure those people that are giving Melissa a hard

838
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 1: time we're not happy about hearing that, but it is

839
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 1: what it is. Never going to satisfy or appease everybody

840
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 1: out there, But that's that's where we stand, and that's

841
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 1: the explanation for it. Again, not that you should have

842
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 1: to explain yourself. This isn't justification. It's just where we

843
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 1: are in life. It's part of the reason that we're

844
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 1: downsizing period. It's just you know, Melissa and are getting older,

845
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 1: the older set of kids are getting older, and we

846
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,879
Speaker 1: might get back into like cheap one day, or having

847
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 1: backyard chickens again one day. These are still things that

848
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,800
Speaker 1: we're incredibly passionate about. But between trying to like homeschool

849
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 1: and raise our children here at home and running our

850
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,320
Speaker 1: own business and just all the work that is associated

851
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 1: with that and trying to make sure that Melissa and

852
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 1: I are in a good place, we have so much

853
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 1: on our plate as it stands, and if that means

854
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 1: that chickens need to go for the time being, the

855
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 1: chickens are going to be gone.

856
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 2: So I mean, yeah, we kind of like looked around

857
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 2: and we did an assessment, and we're like, what is

858
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 2: it that we can do to simplify our lives to

859
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 2: be able to because we want to focus a lot

860
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 2: on food production, and that takes so much time and diligence,

861
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 2: and since we moved here, our garden has suffered so significantly,

862
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 2: Like we haven't been good to gardeners because we've been

863
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 2: so busy with this and this and this and this

864
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 2: and this and this and this, and so it's like,

865
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 2: if we can look around and we can nix a

866
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 2: few things. We can actually have time to focus on

867
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 2: what we really want to focus on.

868
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 1: It's been so frustrating for me because we were like

869
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 1: really good gardeners at one point.

870
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 3: We were we love it so much, food about it.

871
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 1: I love it, but just feeling like you don't have

872
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 1: the time to like do everything it is that you

873
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 1: want to do like it. And for me, it has

874
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 1: primarily to do with the fact that the kids are

875
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 1: getting older, Like I'd rather go take my boys to

876
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:36,800
Speaker 1: go do something like I want to go hiking the

877
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 1: spring and summer whole lunch com on and I have

878
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 1: been running and that's just something that I do with

879
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 1: him as a means of like father son bonding. I

880
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 1: don't necessarily want to run getting older, like it hurts, Yeah,

881
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,840
Speaker 1: but it's something that we can do together. And you know,

882
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 1: when I'm committed to doing things like that and making

883
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 1: that the priority, things like gardening are going to fall

884
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 1: to the wayside. So while it does frustrate me, I'm

885
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 1: okay with it. It's just where we are currently.

886
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:57,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

887
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we all the chickens go.

888
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 2: We gave the sheep to our friends, which I mean

889
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 2: they just live right down the road, and they are

890
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 2: not missing us. They're being so spoiled. They dressed up

891
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 2: for Valentine's Day and.

892
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 1: It's really cool that we're friends with these people too.

893
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:12,839
Speaker 1: Yeah we get to see them on a regular braces.

894
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 2: Yeah we get to see the sheep all the time anyway.

895
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,839
Speaker 2: But yeah, they're doing awesome. So, I mean, we always

896
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 2: make sure that our animals go to good places when

897
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 2: we do need to move them along.

898
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's just we're in a different season now.

899
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 2: And when our kids were all little and we had

900
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 2: like this adorable little farm, and I didn't do any

901
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 2: of this, you know, like I wasn't working, and homeschool

902
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 2: is so much simpler when everyone was in elementary school,

903
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 2: and now it's harder now, and there's more.

904
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:41,959
Speaker 1: It's the irony of so many of us that broke

905
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 1: into this online space doing things like this, you know,

906
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,359
Speaker 1: like hobby farming and home setting is at for those

907
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 1: of us to where you know, we've taken it to

908
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 1: such an extent that it's become like a full time job.

909
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,800
Speaker 1: It really has gotten in the way and it inhibited,

910
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 1: ironically enough, our ability to do all of that farming

911
00:38:56,560 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 1: and homesteading that so many of us originally desired for ourselves. Yeah,

912
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 1: it's not thoselves I see it in a lot of people.

913
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, for sure.

914
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 2: And I mean when we moved out here, like, yes,

915
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 2: we were trying to homestead and be self sustaining, but

916
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 2: we were also trying to build a house and raise

917
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 2: a family, and so yeah, there's just a lot of

918
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 2: things that kind of fellow the wayside that we want

919
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 2: to get back now.

920
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 3: And so it's just a matter of priority.

921
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:21,760
Speaker 2: And yeah, I mean with a horse, like I didn't

922
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:23,439
Speaker 2: have every day to go out there and train him.

923
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:25,839
Speaker 2: I mean he needed an hour day and I didn't

924
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Speaker 2: have it. So unfortunately he had to go somewhere where

925
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 2: they did have the time to do that. And so yeah,

926
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 2: we'll find something old that doesn't need that.

927
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Speaker 1: me about all of this crazy stuff that is happening

993
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Speaker 1: with Frieda who I brought up before. If you remember

994
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 1: the breast milk ice cream, that is the brand we

995
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 1: were talking about. But what's going on with these guys?

996
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 2: Okay, so this is all the rage right now. There's

997
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 2: a brand called Freedom Mom. Now, you guys might remember

998
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 2: there was this not sucker for babies and you foot

999
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 2: the end and the baby's nose when they had a cold,

1000
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 2: and then there was a straw and then you sucked

1001
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 2: on the end and you would watch the snot go

1002
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 2: up the straw and you would stop before I get

1003
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 2: to your mouth. Hopefully you never wanted to go gas. Yes, yeah,

1004
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 2: So that was their first product and it was called

1005
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 2: like freedom nose.

1006
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 3: I believe it was their first product. And then she

1007
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:50,919
Speaker 3: the owner.

1008
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 2: Which is a mother of four and a businesswoman, she

1009
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 2: greatly expanded into there's Freedom mom, and there's freeda baby.

1010
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 1: And Chelsea her shorn Yes, okay, CEO.

1011
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's the CEO. She is a mom.

1012
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 2: Now the mistake I think she made was kind of

1013
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 2: the scrub Daddy mistake.

1014
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 3: Now it worked for scrub Daddy.

1015
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 1: Scrub Daddy's great. What scrub Daddy do scrub Daddy for me?

1016
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:20,280
Speaker 2: Grub Daddy decided to hire a bunch of gen zers

1017
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 2: for their ad campaign marketing team. It became I mean,

1018
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 2: this is like softcore sometimes even more on their Instagram page.

1019
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 2: Their marketing is so dirty.

1020
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:33,320
Speaker 1: Scrub Daddy.

1021
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you didn't know that.

1022
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 1: I'm so out of the loop on these things. You

1023
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 1: bring this stuff up. And so here's how our day

1024
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 1: to day life goes in the house. There it comes downstairs.

1025
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 1: I was like, mom, look at this. And Melissa's like, hey, Novia,

1026
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,360
Speaker 1: how about this? And they go back and forth, and meanwhile,

1027
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,240
Speaker 1: I'm just like making breakfast for myself.

1028
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 3: Jeremy still only using Facebook.

1029
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 1: So then she was just giving me.

1030
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 2: A Two weeks after we see something, he's like, oh

1031
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 2: my gosh.

1032
00:43:57,719 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 3: Did you see this for like, yeah, two weeks ago,

1033
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 3: because this just.

1034
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 1: Happened with one thing. That's why she's saying this. But

1035
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 1: she's trying to convince you to get on Instagram.

1036
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:08,320
Speaker 3: I will not do it, remain on Facebook.

1037
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 1: I have no desire. I don't need more social media

1038
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 1: in my life, any less of it.

1039
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:16,479
Speaker 6: Okay, So the scrub Daddy team anyway, hired a bunch

1040
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 6: of gen zs and their marketing is so dirty, I

1041
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 6: mean so dirty, but it has like skyrocketed the popularity

1042
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 6: of scrub Daddy because everyone thinks it's funny.

1043
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,800
Speaker 1: Really yeah, oh yeah, so no wonder this is happening right, Well.

1044
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 3: It's not just them Duo Lingo the owl.

1045
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 2: Oh that owl is so dirty and so inappropriate and

1046
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 2: he's such a jerk and like that's what people like. Yeah,

1047
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 2: so again it's just a bunch of gen zers. Now,

1048
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 2: these people are not parents, they're younger, and they think

1049
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 2: everything is funny. I mean, there this is a group

1050
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,879
Speaker 2: that makes like nine to eleven jokes and Holocaust jokes.

1051
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 2: They think everything is funny and everything is a.

1052
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:55,399
Speaker 3: Free for all.

1053
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:57,800
Speaker 1: What makes this difference about freedom? What makes this different

1054
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 1: about Freedom Baby, I think is their product lineup in

1055
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 1: the fact that they make things specifically for babies. Yeah,

1056
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 1: which makes this really weird and beyond I mean awkwards

1057
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 1: and not even the right word to use, because in

1058
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:09,879
Speaker 1: the case of dual lingo, I think in a couple

1059
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 1: of examples that I have seen that I just remembered

1060
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,359
Speaker 1: it was funny. At least the ones that I saw

1061
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 1: were funny. Maybe sometimes there are some vulgarities there.

1062
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 2: I find the scrub daddy stuff to go way too far,

1063
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 2: especially for Instagram, because there are children that you know

1064
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 2: it's there and like seek it out.

1065
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 1: But if it brings in, like if your sales go

1066
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 1: up and you gain popularity and followers online, it's no

1067
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 1: wonder that other companies are going to do the same thing.

1068
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 2: Well, and it's a lot of companies they jump on

1069
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 2: each other's stuff and leave inappropriate comments.

1070
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:41,319
Speaker 3: Which is I think what you saw a little bit

1071
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 3: with Freeedo Baby.

1072
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 2: So the director of packaging who has since been removed

1073
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 2: from the website. This has become such a big deal

1074
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,399
Speaker 2: and so many people are going over to Freedom Mom

1075
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 2: that they took the meat the team down.

1076
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 1: Do you want to provide some examples since we haven't

1077
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 1: as a about what it is that you were discussing.

1078
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 1: So Free to Baby has their online accounts, This on Instagram,

1079
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: one's on X that I'm looking at it.

1080
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 2: It's on Instagram, but they've kind of scrubbed the Instagram

1081
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 2: because it's become such a big deal. Their X page,

1082
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if they've scrubbed it, but.

1083
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:13,839
Speaker 1: Making some like sexually explicit, but like the semi borderline,

1084
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 1: like witty, so it's not too blatantly like discuss things.

1085
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 2: I think that it's a bunch of gen zers that

1086
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 2: thought it was funny. But because it's like it's products

1087
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 2: for babies, it's completely discussing and inappropriate.

1088
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 1: And given everything that's going on right now.

1089
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 2: So everything going on right now and with kids and

1090
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 2: the sexualization of children, I find it to be very distasteful.

1091
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:37,240
Speaker 3: Again, maybe it's just me being uppity, like I can't.

1092
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Speaker 1: Even I want to provide you guys with examples of

1093
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 1: what we're talking about her Maybe you're familiar with it.

1094
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 1: But this one right now I'm looking at right now,

1095
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 1: I don't think I can read. Hopefully it's not in missard. Okay, camera,

1096
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 1: you can read this one.

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00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 3: Okay, well, okay, So they have a snotsucker. I own it.

1098
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 2: I didn't know any of this when I bought this stuff.

1099
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 2: So I own the quick thermometer, the three and one thermometer,

1100
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 2: the snotsucker, and the nebulizer, all from Free to Baby.

1101
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:02,320
Speaker 2: I use their oh crap cradle cap. That's what it's

1102
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 2: literally called, oh crap cradle cap.

1103
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 1: You have a problem with stuff like that. I had a.

1104
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:09,360
Speaker 2: Problem with it that it didn't work, But no, I

1105
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 2: don't have a problem so much with that. It's a

1106
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 2: little weird to put crap on like whatever. Like when

1107
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,359
Speaker 2: I got the bottle, I was like, that's weird, and

1108
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 2: that was kind of the and then I squirt it

1109
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 2: on his head and moved on with my day. But

1110
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 2: the snotsucker, which Mike absolutely hates that that thing. I

1111
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 2: was trying to vacumunt his nose and he was like

1112
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:30,839
Speaker 2: acting like I was just torturing him. On the side

1113
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 2: of the box, it says I'm a power sucker and

1114
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 2: so that one, like, I guess I just didn't even

1115
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:39,919
Speaker 2: notice that one there, right, And then on their humidifier

1116
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 2: on the box, it says, I get turned on easily

1117
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 2: because it's like a touch humidifier.

1118
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 3: But we all know what they're saying.

1119
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 1: So this is their product packaging.

1120
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, the three and one thermometer I just bought. And

1121
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:53,799
Speaker 2: I did notice this box when I bought it. It

1122
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 2: was literally right before we left for our trip. On

1123
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 2: the side, it says, how about a quickie? And I

1124
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 2: just like and then like they have a rectal thermometer.

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00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 1: Cuse okay, yeah, yeah, okay, No, don't take this too far.

1126
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 1: I just don't want to. It's it's so blatantly like

1127
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 1: over the top.

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00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 3: Well, I wasn't gonna read all of them. It just

1129
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 3: says this is the closest your husband's going to get

1130
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 3: to a three song.

1131
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 1: See unnecessary, especially if you make good products. Let your

1132
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 1: product speak for yourself and just come up with some

1133
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 1: very straightforward advertising and marketing because it's it's their products

1134
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 1: for babies, and it is there parents that are buying it.

1135
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 1: I guess this is my biggest thing. Yeah, if you're

1136
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 1: talking about a sponging will be clever because it has

1137
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 1: a face and maybe like whatever, right, But when you're

1138
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 1: talking about parents, or especially like young parents like that

1139
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:38,319
Speaker 1: are that are dealing with their six week old baby,

1140
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 1: like nobody wants to think or like being that mindset

1141
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 1: when considering a product to use on that very.

1142
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 3: Child freedom mom stuff's pretty bad too.

1143
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 2: It's just like very insensitive, Like it makes you feel

1144
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:50,280
Speaker 2: like you're after you give birth and you're like gross

1145
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 2: and stretched down.

1146
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 1: A Brett Cooper example.

1147
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 2: Like Brett Cooper was talking about she got like the

1148
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 2: postpartum Kit and then she's like, literally I was reading

1149
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:00,240
Speaker 2: the box and I was she was telling her Husban

1150
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:03,240
Speaker 2: all it's like I just like this makes me feel

1151
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 2: like ichy.

1152
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,360
Speaker 3: I don't like it. I don't like this brand.

1153
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 2: And then because it was like it talks about like

1154
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 2: clean yourself up, you're gross and like you're all stretched

1155
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 2: out now, and like.

1156
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 3: These kind of references that just are not what you like.

1157
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,840
Speaker 2: It should be about, you know, the beauty of motherhood

1158
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 2: and self care, and like it was just inappropriate. But

1159
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 2: then when you look at the meet the team, it

1160
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 2: makes sense. It's a bunch of young people that aren't parents.

1161
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 1: So they're all like one of these parents, but they

1162
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 1: literally go out of their way to point.

1163
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 2: Out that they're not parents, Like none of them are

1164
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 2: parents except for the CEO. All of these people are

1165
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:46,320
Speaker 2: like order processing specialist, dog mom, proud title, senior international

1166
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 2: e commerce manager. Technically I'm a parent. He just has

1167
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 2: four legs, a tail, and zero respect for human space

1168
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:56,360
Speaker 2: personal space. A brand director is just a dog. First

1169
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:59,879
Speaker 2: of all, that's my child. And then like the guy

1170
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:03,439
Speaker 2: low Hers, like you know, I'm not a parent, but no.

1171
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:06,840
Speaker 1: The heart stepped on enough ran director of packaging. That

1172
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 1: guy that you mention the hardest thing about being a

1173
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:14,239
Speaker 1: parent or the kids, Wow, he loves children. Good for you.

1174
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 1: I think your kids never see that.

1175
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:18,240
Speaker 2: I mean, to me, the worst thing is a picture

1176
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 2: of the baby when the snotsucker kind of went a

1177
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 2: rye and went all over their face. The reference to

1178
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 2: that picture is so disgusting, Like I don't know the

1179
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 2: worst one, that's by far the worst one, and it's

1180
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 2: somebody else's baby, and I just find that So.

1181
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:36,760
Speaker 1: So what do you mean of somebody else's bab.

1182
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:39,320
Speaker 2: I mean that's somebody sent that in as like probably

1183
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 2: funny of like, look what happened to my baby, and

1184
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 2: then they put the caption what.

1185
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 1: Do I do with this for the sake of the

1186
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:45,720
Speaker 1: podcast episode? Do I put this stuff off on screen?

1187
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 1: I can't with that.

1188
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:52,799
Speaker 2: There's I have a picture where the baby's blocked out. Yeah,

1189
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 2: but I mean there's just like all kinds of stuff

1190
00:50:54,920 --> 00:51:00,359
Speaker 2: on here, like relax well from here. It just it's

1191
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 2: so inappropriate, and it's every box and every product.

1192
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 3: It's not like, oh, you're just taking that too.

1193
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 1: Far again, I feel like I cannot you know what,

1194
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 1: I'm just going to put this one up on screen

1195
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:12,279
Speaker 1: and everyone can read it for them.

1196
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 2: So it's important to show this stuff is hanging at Target,

1197
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 2: It's hanging in the shelves at Target.

1198
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 1: What are we doing? Like, where where do things go

1199
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 1: from here?

1200
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1201
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 1: I mean the fact that we can not normalize this,

1202
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:26,799
Speaker 1: but the fact that we all become so numb to.

1203
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 2: It's like if you don't think it's funny, then then

1204
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 2: you're just such a boomer, you know, Like I'm.

1205
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 1: Just I guess I'm just a little more disturbed by

1206
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 1: the fact that, like you said, this stuff is right

1207
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 1: like literally on their box. But even you said acknowledge

1208
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 1: you didn't even notice it because you've just kind of

1209
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:45,400
Speaker 1: liked the whole bad money thing. We're so numbs to it.

1210
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 1: You you literally have just come to expect it and

1211
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 1: it doesn't even impact or affective in the way that

1212
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:50,840
Speaker 1: maybe it should.

1213
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:53,799
Speaker 2: Right, Well, yeah, I think we see it on you know,

1214
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 2: we see it on television, We see it in our advertising,

1215
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 2: we see it all over Instagram and Facebook.

1216
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:01,720
Speaker 3: Ad can pains to desensitize.

1217
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,799
Speaker 2: You become desensitized to it, and then it becomes like, oh,

1218
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:07,319
Speaker 2: like if you if you don't think it's funny, then

1219
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 2: you're just old.

1220
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:11,759
Speaker 1: It was dark tune like that. Yeah, that's the threesome one.

1221
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:13,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, with the baby in that.

1222
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:17,840
Speaker 1: That's beyond right, like dark, it's just dis yeah what.

1223
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:21,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I think that they totally miss the market.

1224
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,879
Speaker 2: They're definitely hurting right now for it because a bunch

1225
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 2: of people are going in and finally, I mean, I'm

1226
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 2: assuming that they're going to revamp their packaging. If they

1227
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 2: don't they double down, then they're probably going to lose

1228
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 2: a lot of parents because parents aren't finding this gen

1229
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:36,800
Speaker 2: Z humor funny.

1230
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 1: Are the products good though you've been using them?

1231
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:42,760
Speaker 2: So I'm yeah, I mean I think the products are fine.

1232
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,240
Speaker 2: I don't think that they's superior to any other products.

1233
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 2: They just they happen to be like a good cheap

1234
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:48,840
Speaker 2: price point when they were available.

1235
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 1: On Amazon, Like, yeah, do we have to do this?

1236
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 2: I don't write it's unnecessary and it's inappropriate, and it

1237
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:59,800
Speaker 2: sexualizes children, and it sexualizes parenthood and the innocence and

1238
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:01,880
Speaker 2: the beauty of that, and it just kind of corrupts

1239
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 2: it and makes it something dirty and funny when it's

1240
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 2: something beautiful and pure and of God.

1241
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 1: And I just how did you catch win of this?

1242
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 2: Uh, it's just it's all over right now. People are

1243
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 2: just I've seen a bunch of I saw it on

1244
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 2: I saw the one thing on the box, and then

1245
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 2: I thought back on the cradle cap thing, and I

1246
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 2: thought like, okay, that's I told Nevada, I think gen

1247
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 2: Z is doing their marketing.

1248
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 3: But I didn't know.

1249
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 2: I had never gone down their Instagram page and looked

1250
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:29,880
Speaker 2: at how disturbing.

1251
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 1: It is as the brand different now.

1252
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 2: But yeah, well my yeah, I unless they revamp their packaging,

1253
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 2: I guess, you know, you just got to do it

1254
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:41,440
Speaker 2: with your ad dollars. But I mean even responses that

1255
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 2: they have like Netflix.

1256
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:44,720
Speaker 3: Wrote what is something?

1257
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:47,840
Speaker 2: Netflix writes a post on x saying, what is something

1258
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 2: that you can say during? But also when you manage

1259
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:55,920
Speaker 2: a brand Twitter account, freeedo Baby jumps in there and

1260
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 2: they're like, oh, something you can say during and also

1261
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:01,959
Speaker 2: something you would say is yeah in your mouth?

1262
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 1: I get it.

1263
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:08,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, what on earth? Hashtag knows freeda, which is our

1264
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 2: first product? Like your product is gross enough, but not

1265
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:13,759
Speaker 2: having to add all that so.

1266
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 1: It's not the bote too much time to is so.

1267
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:18,279
Speaker 2: Anyway, Yeah, I just again, it kind of just goes

1268
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 2: back to like can't we all just do better? Like

1269
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 2: why does everything have to be dirty? Why does everything

1270
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 2: have to be like a raunchy joke in order to

1271
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:27,320
Speaker 2: be funny.

1272
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 1: Because you're a stubborn bad bunny fan.

1273
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 3: No, I'm not a bad bunny fan at all.

1274
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 2: Like no, Like I think he's inappropriate too, Like why

1275
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:36,799
Speaker 2: can't we just all do better? Why can't we just

1276
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,400
Speaker 2: get back to like wholesome family stuff. Why is it

1277
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:42,320
Speaker 2: only people that grew up with the wholesome not the

1278
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 2: wholesome neess.

1279
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:45,359
Speaker 1: It's not flashy, it's not the dope mean here, it's

1280
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 1: not sexy, it's not appealing to most people nowadays, given

1281
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 1: what it is that we have access to.

1282
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 2: That's the reason why, I mean even comedians, like comedians

1283
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 2: just aren't even considered funny unless they're so raunchy and

1284
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 2: they're so over the top. The Netflix specials by every

1285
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 2: single comedian, you can't have your children watch any of that.

1286
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's non marketed at kids. But like, my favorite

1287
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:10,360
Speaker 1: comedians are those that are are clean and clever. You

1288
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:11,920
Speaker 1: can come up with a bit that's really clever and

1289
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 1: like right in front of your face and very abundantly obvious,

1290
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 1: but you have some like weird, bizarre outlook on it,

1291
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:18,880
Speaker 1: and that's what makes it funny. Like those are my

1292
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:19,319
Speaker 1: favorite kind.

1293
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 3: I think that's harder to be funny though it is.

1294
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yeah for sure.

1295
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1296
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I just kind of wish everybody could

1297
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:28,279
Speaker 2: do a little bit better. And we need to be

1298
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:31,840
Speaker 2: really careful when we're talking about our children or anybody

1299
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 2: else's children, to like, let's keep this PG their kids,

1300
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:38,799
Speaker 2: let them be kids, let them be innocent. Let's not

1301
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 2: make adult jokes around kids and say like, oh, well,

1302
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:43,720
Speaker 2: the kids don't get it. Like I think it started

1303
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 2: with Shrek. Remember, like Shrek is funny, but it does

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Speaker 2: have some adult humor that was like not necessarily a

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Speaker 2: lot of in you, I know.

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Speaker 3: And they say like, oh, that's for the parents.

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Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, but the kids are watching too, and

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Speaker 2: kids are clever and kids aren't stupid. They catch on

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Speaker 2: to this stuff, and it's just why are we normalizing

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Speaker 2: it for children? Even if it's geared for the parents,

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Speaker 2: when it involves children, it's unnecessary. We all need to

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Speaker 2: do better, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: For sure. All right on that note, so I appreciate

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Speaker 1: you guys being here once again. We will see you

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Speaker 1: next week. Yes, yep, anything else you want to plug

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Speaker 1: in here in the meantime.

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Speaker 3: I don't think so.

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Speaker 1: Sure, Yeah you feel better? Do you feel better?

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Speaker 3: I mean, and I think people are going to be

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Speaker 3: just as upset.

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Speaker 2: I just it's just kind of where amount as a mom,

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Speaker 2: maybe I'm just maybe I just am in a place

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Speaker 2: where I want to see anything geared towards kids to

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Speaker 2: just be a little bit more.

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Speaker 1: It causes stress a little bit more. When you get

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Speaker 1: a bunch of people, even just typing words online that

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Speaker 1: are directed you, it causes a little bit of stress.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what causes you to like, okay, was I off, like,

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Speaker 2: am I not thinking clearly?

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Speaker 3: Am Am I wrong in thinking this?

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Speaker 1: And I appreciate that for that very reason, like it

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Speaker 1: causes you to reflect and be like, no, let me

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Speaker 1: revisit this.

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Speaker 6: Here.

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Speaker 1: Was I right? And you know, like we're not perfect people.

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Speaker 1: We will make this and if we do make a mistake,

1337
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Speaker 1: will come in here. But in this case, you felt

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Speaker 1: okay about what she said?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I really did.

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Speaker 2: And then like funny, the very next day, I watched

1341
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Speaker 2: Elie Bestuccy talk about it, and I thought that she

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Speaker 2: did a much more eloquent job of explaining pretty much

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Speaker 2: the exact same thing that I was saying. So after

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Speaker 2: I listened to her podcast, I was like, yeah, that's

1345
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 2: like what I was trying to say. Maybe I just

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Speaker 2: didn't say it in a good way.

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Speaker 3: Maybe I didn't explain myself correctly.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that'll happen.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, she does a good job of explaining what

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to say. If anyone wants to check that out,

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Speaker 2: all right, this.

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Speaker 1: Mine this one down, mama. So I appreciate all you

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Speaker 1: guys out there, Thank you for being here. Once again.

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Speaker 1: We'll see you next week here on New or Botsol

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Speaker 1: Good sup a Living video will be out on Saturday. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you can catch that. In the meantime, you guys, take

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Speaker 1: care of God bless We'll see you next week.