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Speaker 1: Good morning, good afternoon, good evening, and good night. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the Aaron Mullin Show. Great to have your company.

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Speaker 1: We've got a big episode coming up for you. Gideon

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Speaker 1: later on, but first up, we've got Elliott Abrams, former

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Speaker 1: foreign policy advisor to Reagan Bush and Donald J.

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Speaker 1: What he says the American President has missed.

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Speaker 2: That is key. You do not want to miss that interview.

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Speaker 1: Plus my take on Megan Kelly's take on the Iran war,

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Speaker 1: Pete Hegseeth finally speaks, and Rubio as well. Plus memorials

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Speaker 1: for the evil killer Ayatola to be held in Australia.

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Speaker 1: free kit while it's still free. Within moments of the

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Speaker 1: news coming out that the Supreme Leader had been killed,

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Speaker 1: we started to see tributes pop up on some social

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Speaker 1: media sites in Australia representing local mosques and Muslim groups

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Speaker 1: to honor him, to mourn him, three day periods of

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Speaker 1: being sad. No, no, he does not qualify for this

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Speaker 1: and this is not about him being Muslim. By the

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Speaker 1: way they're going to try and frame this as a

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Speaker 1: war against Muslims.

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Speaker 2: No, it's not.

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Speaker 1: It is a war against terror terrorists. Haimini was a terrorist,

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Speaker 1: not some revered amazing religious leader.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter who you are, how you look at it,

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Speaker 1: where you're from, what religion you are. He was a

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Speaker 1: blood thirsty terrorist who killed more Muslims arguably than anyone else.

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Speaker 1: So nobody, particularly in a country like Australia, should be

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Speaker 1: holding tributes for a terrorist.

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Speaker 2: Mind you, we.

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Speaker 1: Saw his face up there being waved during that march

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Speaker 1: across the Harbor Bridge. Remember that march for humanity. They

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Speaker 1: called it a march for humanity, A little reminder of

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Speaker 1: the only humanity that existed on that Harbor Bridge march,

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Speaker 1: and that was myself and three other women holding up

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Speaker 1: the hostages.

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Speaker 2: Take a look.

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Speaker 1: Now, Kamala Harris, I mean, lord, do they give out

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Speaker 1: awards for hypocrisy?

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Speaker 2: She would win every single time.

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Speaker 1: Now she needs to stop, stop because the more she speaks,

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Speaker 1: the more that it confirms that she has absolutely no

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Speaker 1: In twenty twenty four, she said this about Iran.

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Speaker 3: Which foreign country do you consider to be our greatest nablishary.

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Speaker 4: I think there's an obvious one in mind, which is Iran.

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Speaker 4: Iran has American blood on their hands. Okay, this attack

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Speaker 4: on Israel two hundred ballistic missiles. What we need to

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Speaker 4: do to ensure that Iran never achieves the ability to

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Speaker 4: be a nuclear power. That is one of my highest priorities, and.

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Speaker 3: That must be that Iran is building a nuclear weapon.

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Speaker 3: Would you take military action?

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Speaker 4: I'm not going to talk about hypotheticals.

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Speaker 5: At this moment. Now.

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Speaker 1: At the time, a lot of people were very critical

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Speaker 1: without doubt the greatest threat to America. But hey, she

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Speaker 1: identified how significant the Islamic craisy in Iran. The threat

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Speaker 1: is now though that someone, Donald Trump is courageously taking

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Speaker 2: She says this before I go in, I want to

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Speaker 2: address what we learn today.

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Speaker 4: Donald Trump has dragged us into a war the American

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Speaker 4: people do not want. He has put American troops in

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Speaker 4: harm's way. I unequivocally oppose this war of choice, and

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Speaker 4: everyone should. And the bottom line when it comes down

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Speaker 4: Trump with this random decision that he has arrived at,

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Speaker 4: then Congress must act, and Congress must act immediately. The

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Speaker 4: American people do not want our sons and daughters to

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Speaker 4: go into this unauthorized war of choice, and I unequivocally

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Speaker 2: Thank you well again, I get it.

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Speaker 1: If we lived in a stone age and there were

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Speaker 1: no videos, you can say whatever you like. And if

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Speaker 1: someone says, oh, but I thought you said you say no,

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Speaker 1: I didn't. No, I didn't No, I didn't find me

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Speaker 1: the rock that it's etched in, not saying nothing I

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Speaker 2: But we live in a digital age.

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Speaker 1: Everything is recorded, so you just look really silly, really silly. Now,

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Speaker 1: Megan Kelly, I've been waiting for her take, and her take, ladies.

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Speaker 2: And gentlemen, what part of it is this?

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Speaker 6: My own feeling is no one should have to die

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Speaker 6: for a foreign country. I don't think those four service

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Speaker 6: members died for the United States. I think they died

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Speaker 6: for Iran or for Israel. I think I understand how

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Speaker 6: this helps Iran perfectly. Well, I get it. I mean,

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Speaker 6: I hope long term we'll see but they seem rather jubilant.

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Speaker 6: Eighty percent of the country does not support the Ayahtola.

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Speaker 6: He was a terrible, terrible man. No one's crying that

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Speaker 6: he's dead, no normal person. But our government's job is

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Speaker 6: not to look out for Iran or for Israel. It's

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Speaker 6: to look out for us. And this feels very much

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Speaker 6: to me like it is clearly Israel's Mark Levin winded it,

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Speaker 6: it's his war, Ben Shapiro, Lindsey Graham, Miriam Maddelson.

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Speaker 2: That's obvious.

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Speaker 6: They are the ones who've been pushing us into them.

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Speaker 1: The only thing she gets right in that video is

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Speaker 1: that all of our thoughts and prayers should be with

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Speaker 1: every single brave man and woman who is fighting on

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Speaker 1: else who fights against terrorism. Absolutely any loss is so tragic,

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Speaker 1: died for Israel or died for Iran, she is taking

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Speaker 1: Megan has been asleep for the last forty seven years.

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Speaker 1: Potentially this regime has the blood of Americans on its hands.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you don't care about the specific type of American.

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Speaker 1: Maybe they don't matter as much to you as others.

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Speaker 1: You realize there were Americans killed on October seven, Americans

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Speaker 1: because they're Jewish or they're also Israeli Americans? How can

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Speaker 1: you say that that they died for Iran and died

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Speaker 1: for Israel. That's bs highly offensive and it really it

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Speaker 1: tarnishes their legacy, and that is shameful. There are so

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Speaker 1: many reasons why America had to take the action that

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Speaker 1: it took, so many reasons. This is not popular for Trump.

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Speaker 1: This is not going to help him domestically. This is

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Speaker 1: an incredible act of courage for the greater good. And no,

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Speaker 1: not just the greater good of Israel or Iran, but

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Speaker 1: yes they're included.

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Speaker 2: And that's okay.

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Speaker 1: By the way, it's okay to do something that is

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Speaker 1: good for America that is also good for Israel and

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Speaker 1: also good for the people of Iran.

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Speaker 2: That's okay.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't take away from the goodness of what you're

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Speaker 1: doing for you to have them also benefit. This is

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Speaker 1: an evil regime who was building ballistic missiles that could

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Speaker 1: not reportedly, not rumored to have been, like so many

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Speaker 1: in your circles continually talk about in reference, well this

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Speaker 1: may be nothing verifies. It does a verifiable evidence of

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Speaker 1: what they were doing. And if that's not enough for you,

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Speaker 1: death to America, death to America bounties on President Trump's

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Speaker 1: head and a hell of a lot of other Americans.

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Speaker 2: Why don't they matter?

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Speaker 1: Why don't their deaths, the ones who have been killed

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Speaker 1: by this regime, including American troops, deserve to be avenged.

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Speaker 1: That's a disgrace seful thing to say that these incredible

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Speaker 2: No they didn't.

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Speaker 1: They died so that America does not have to deal

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Speaker 1: with the threat of an Islamic terrorist regime who chants

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Speaker 1: death to America daily. That's my thoughts on her take. Now,

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Speaker 1: I'd like to bring someone in who makes a whole

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Speaker 1: hell of a lot of sense, who sees this clearly.

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Speaker 1: Former foreign policy advisor to the Reagan administration Bush and

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Speaker 1: to Donald Trump in his first term, Elliot Abrams. Elliot Abrams,

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Speaker 1: thank you so so much for joining us here on

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Speaker 1: the Aaron Mollan Show. So excited to get your thoughts,

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Speaker 1: so thank you for being here.

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Speaker 3: Sure, my pleasure. Good to see you again.

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Speaker 2: Your initial reaction when you heard the news.

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Speaker 7: Great happiness, delight that finally a president of the United

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Speaker 7: States has done what we should have been doing for

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Speaker 7: decades while this regime has been killing Americans and Iranians

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Speaker 1: Doing it is one thing, but doing it well is

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Speaker 1: another thing. Have they done it well thus far?

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Speaker 7: Thus far? Yes, it's a massive attack. It is going

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Speaker 7: to destroy their nuclear program completely. It is going to

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Speaker 7: destroy their navy and its ability to block the Strait

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Speaker 7: destroy the vast, vast majority of their missiles and missile launchers.

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Speaker 7: So even if the regime survives, it's a different regime.

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Speaker 7: It's a much weakened regime and its ability to do harm.

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Speaker 7: They're also going after the means of repression, the Revolutionary Guard,

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Speaker 7: police stations, all of these instruments that were used to

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Speaker 7: kill thousands and probably tens of thousands of Iranians in

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Speaker 7: the last two months. So I think the start is

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Speaker 7: very good. Frankly, helped a bit by the Iranians. I

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Speaker 7: mean they've attacked all of their neighbors now, which is extraordinary,

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Speaker 7: and so those who are sitting on the fence, you know,

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Speaker 7: are moving in our direction. The British, good example, we've

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Speaker 7: started out saying well we can't. Then Cypress, They're base

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Speaker 7: in Cypress was attacked. The harder part, of course, is

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Speaker 7: always the political part at the end. What comes next?

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Speaker 7: But the beginning is exactly right.

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Speaker 1: Beautifully put so, mister Abrams, what comes next? Say that

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Speaker 1: the military action is done, the objectives are achieved, How

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Speaker 1: does one transition a nation into either a new government

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Speaker 1: or a less extreme version of the current existing one.

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Speaker 2: If that is what will occur.

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Speaker 7: I think we will have hit them so hard that,

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Speaker 7: you know, they may not be regime change in the

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Speaker 7: formal sense, but it'll be a change regime. Whoever is

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Speaker 7: the so called supreme leader won't really be supreme. You

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Speaker 7: won't really have any particular legitimacy. It'll be a very

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Speaker 7: weak government and country. Can it go further than that?

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Speaker 7: Can we see the beginnings of a turn completely away

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Speaker 7: I think as we're talking about other countries that their

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Speaker 7: know he likes these one and done things. Yeah, he'll

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Speaker 7: hit them once and then say let's go back to

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Speaker 7: the table. He's not going to do something that takes

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Speaker 7: a week or two or three or four and risks

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Speaker 7: American debt. Yeah, so he's broken all his rules here.

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Speaker 7: He's never done anything like this before. And that's why

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Speaker 7: I'm That's why I'm surprised about it.

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Speaker 1: Courage is a word that gets thrown around a lot,

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Speaker 1: and you can't argue that this is going to help

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Speaker 1: him domestically.

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Speaker 3: It won't.

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Speaker 1: This took a lot of courage. I believe wholeheartedly this

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Speaker 1: is the right thing to do, and I'm so grateful

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Speaker 1: to him for doing it. I'm an Australian as an American.

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Speaker 1: Do you look at it in awe almost the courage

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Speaker 1: it took for him to pull the trigger?

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Speaker 7: Essentially, yes, And he was certainly told by the Chairman

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Speaker 7: of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, this will be difficult.

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Speaker 7: They will be how is this will take a while.

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Speaker 7: And I'm again, I was surprised that you did it.

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Speaker 7: And I think it's an act of responsibility and it's

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Speaker 7: an act that will change and I think elevate his

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Speaker 7: position in history. This country, the United States has been

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Speaker 7: under attacked from Iran for forty five years. This is

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Speaker 7: the only country in the world saying death to America.

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Speaker 7: This is the country that's been killing Americans and getting

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Speaker 7: away with it with impunity for decades. And finally there

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Speaker 7: is a president who says this is going to stop.

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Speaker 7: We're going to put an end to it. And I

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Speaker 7: think that's I agree with your words.

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Speaker 1: Courageous Secretary of War said this is a war we

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Speaker 1: didn't start, but we will finish it.

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Speaker 2: And he's spot on.

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Speaker 1: Final question, Elliott, before I let you go, China, I'd

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Speaker 1: love your insight into I mean, I think between twenty

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Speaker 1: and thirty percent of their oil from Venezuela and Iran

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Speaker 1: at fairly cheap prices as well. What does this asay

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Speaker 1: to China regarding its intentions to retake Taiwan and be

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Speaker 1: how do they look at in America post this, maybe

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Speaker 1: compared to how they previously would have viewed the Trump administration.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't know that they were all that impressed

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Speaker 7: by Venezuela because it was a one day deal. Impressed yes,

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Speaker 7: by the ability in the United States to do a

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Speaker 7: complex action like that.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's you know, not all that far from the US,

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Speaker 3: It's in our hemisphere. This is different.

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Speaker 7: This is a reminder that the US is not only

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Speaker 7: a global power, but the only real global power, with

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Speaker 7: an extraordinary military and a president who is willing to fight.

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Speaker 7: They might have thought he'll never do anything on Taiwan

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Speaker 7: because it's all he doesn't do that. He does one

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Speaker 7: day deals, you know, and never risks any American lives.

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Speaker 7: Now they know that's not true, so they've got, I think,

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Speaker 7: to recalculate. We are global power, and the presidents have

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Speaker 7: shown that he's willing to act, So I would think

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Speaker 7: the Chinese got to recalculate. And this hurts them, of course,

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Speaker 7: as did Venezuela. These are their two main sources, as

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Speaker 7: you said, or two of their main sources of oil,

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Speaker 7: and they're getting it at a hefty discount. And I

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Speaker 7: mean now for a while they won't be getting any

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Speaker 7: from Venezuela or from.

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Speaker 3: Iran, certainly for a matter of weeks.

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Speaker 7: But I would think what people outside of Asia, Unfortunately

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Speaker 7: this may not apply to Australia. Certainly, outside of Asia,

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Speaker 7: people have seen what the Chinese are willing and able

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Speaker 7: to do for their friends and allies.

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Speaker 3: Nothing.

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Speaker 2: It's the same way with America.

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Speaker 1: It's one thing to have the capability, but the willingness

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Speaker 1: to use it is an entirely different kettle of fish.

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Speaker 1: And you're right, they haven't come to anyone's aid. They've

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Speaker 1: just been like, take care of yourselves.

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Speaker 3: True.

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Speaker 1: So it significantly not only does it change the way

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Speaker 1: they view the US, it changes significantly the way their

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Speaker 1: allies view them.

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Speaker 7: And I would I would think, and I would hope

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Speaker 7: that for countries in Asia, Australia, but Japan and South Korea, Philippines,

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Speaker 7: that when they look at China and the US and

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Speaker 7: wonder if if in the worst of cases the US

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Speaker 7: would act, would come to their aid, I would think

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Speaker 7: they feel a lot better this week than they did

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Speaker 7: a week ago.

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Speaker 1: Great point, great point, Elliot Arams, you are brilliant. Thank

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Speaker 1: you so so much for joining us here on the

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Speaker 1: Aaron mullin Chow.

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Speaker 3: Thank you my pleasure.

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Speaker 1: Anow the Israeli Foreign Minister, Gideon sar He opens up

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Speaker 1: on reaction from other countries around the world, his own daughter,

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Speaker 1: her home being bombed during the Islamic Regimes retaliation attacks,

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Speaker 1: and also what happens next, particularly with Hesbola.

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Speaker 2: Foreign Minister, thank you so much for your time. Really

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Speaker 2: appreciate you. Joining me here on the Aaron Mullin show.

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Speaker 5: Thank you, Erin, Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 1: We don't have much time, so let me jump straight in.

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Speaker 1: This is not just a job for you, This is

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Speaker 1: existential in Israel. You are willing to pay a price

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Speaker 1: the lives of your people to achieve the objectives in

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Speaker 1: this war. How big a price are you willing to pay?

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Speaker 5: What we took into consideration that there will be casualties, unfortunately,

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Speaker 5: that there will be consequences. But we thought, unanimously, by

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Speaker 5: the way it was taken unanimously by a security cabinet,

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Speaker 5: that it is much more dangerous not to act rather

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Speaker 5: than to act. Having taken into consideration the fact that

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Speaker 5: they are planning to take to a deep underground their

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Speaker 5: nuclear program as much as missile long range missiles production,

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Speaker 5: so within a short time they will be immune from

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Speaker 5: any air force activity. So we came into conclusion that

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Speaker 5: we must act.

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Speaker 1: Your daughter's home was hit by an Islamic regime missile.

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Speaker 2: Is she okay? And how does that feel? As a father?

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Speaker 5: Well, I was. I participated in a meeting and they

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Speaker 5: were speaking about a missile land and in Tel Aviv,

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Speaker 5: and most of my family is living there, so I

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Speaker 5: was interesting. I was interested to know where exactly. When

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Speaker 5: I went out from the meeting, I found out that

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Speaker 5: her apartment was really damaged, but fortunately enough, she's okay

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Speaker 5: with her fiance. There were only damages to the flat.

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Speaker 5: They moved temporarily to live in the house of the

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Speaker 5: parents of her fiance. But she acted actually quite bravely,

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Speaker 5: helping a wounded person in the scene, and I'm quite

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Speaker 5: proud that she functioned that way in those terrible circumstances.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely for others, though not so lucky. There have been

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Speaker 1: lives lost in Israel, including the lives of children.

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Speaker 2: It's heartbreaking.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yesterday we had nine casualties in an attack on Bitchemish,

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Speaker 5: a city quite near to Jerusalem, including children, including k

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Speaker 5: Says when the mother and the child were killed in

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Speaker 5: the same attack. This is really horrible. But the most

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Speaker 5: horrible thing is that this is what they plan. They

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Speaker 5: deliberately target civilians and civilian population centers. While we are

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Speaker 5: targeting the head the heads of disturb states and security apparatus,

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Speaker 5: and also military industry and military facilities, they are targeting

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Speaker 5: our civilians. And they are not doing it only to Israel.

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Speaker 5: They are doing it now also to Arab neighboring countries

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Speaker 5: in the Gulf, very cruelly and without any provocation. So

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Speaker 5: this is a regime which is dangerous to his people,

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Speaker 5: to his own people, as we sow lately with the

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Speaker 5: way they repress with murder, with murderers thousands of Iranians.

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Speaker 5: And also it is dangerous for the old region and

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Speaker 5: for the old world when.

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Speaker 2: You look at the reaction of the region. The Golf.

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Speaker 1: Arab states have come out and condemned, including Qatar, who's

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Speaker 1: put out a statement not mentioned Israel in that statement,

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Speaker 1: but have been very scathing when it comes to the

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Speaker 1: targeting of civilians. Again, didn't mention any Israeli civilians.

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Speaker 2: We know.

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Speaker 1: Why do you think that this erratic action from the

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Speaker 1: Islamic regime will actually benefit Israel in that the Arab

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Speaker 1: states seem to be coming together to condemn.

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Speaker 5: Iran is the enemy of these states as well. Some

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Speaker 5: of them five years ago came with us to the

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Speaker 5: Ebrahm Accords, and we have normalization and peace relations with

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Speaker 5: them like the Emirates and the Bahrain others didn't. But

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Speaker 5: we wish to have peaceful relations with all of them.

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Speaker 5: And as a matter of fact, I think it's the

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Speaker 5: interest of their people and their countries, and I hope

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Speaker 5: we will reach that day. And I think that defeating

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Speaker 5: this vicious regime will get us close to a different region.

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Speaker 5: So it is necessary that we will achieve our goals

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Speaker 5: in this mutual operation with the United States of America.

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Speaker 5: And I believe we are already five decades that the

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Speaker 5: Iranian nation and its neighbors and the world had suffer

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Speaker 5: a lot from this regime and it doesn't have any

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Speaker 5: right to exist. And I hope that many governments in

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Speaker 5: the world will take actions, and they can take actions

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Speaker 5: by disconnecting connections with their regime. And I think it

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Speaker 5: is vital. By the way, Canada, Canada, which we had

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Speaker 5: a lot of disputes with on the Palestinian conflict for example,

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Speaker 5: did that and did that before the war, and I

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Speaker 5: think it is crucial that many other states will do

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Speaker 5: that as well.

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Speaker 1: I'd like your quick reaction to the following, and I'll

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Speaker 1: mention a few different foreign nations and some of the

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Speaker 1: rhetoric coming out of them. The French Foreign Minister says

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Speaker 1: that this should have been debated, this military action.

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Speaker 2: What is your response to that?

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Speaker 5: Well, when you plan such a thing, it is very

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Speaker 5: important to keep it in secret because then it is successful.

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Speaker 5: As we demonstrated in the first attack on the first day.

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Speaker 5: It was hugely successful, taking out supreme leader of this

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Speaker 5: vicious regime and so many of the heads of the

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Speaker 5: Revolutionary Guards, which Europe itself designated as a tour organization.

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Speaker 5: And we did it. And when you want to debate it,

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Speaker 5: it is tougher. But I had a good conversation with

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Speaker 5: the French minister on the first day of this war,

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Speaker 5: and I hope they will take actions. It can be

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Speaker 5: diplomatic actions as well, in order to isolate and delegitimize

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Speaker 5: this regime. It is vital for the safety of the world.

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Speaker 5: And by the way, when I'm speaking with European minister,

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Speaker 5: they are extremely worried about this long range missiles that

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Speaker 5: Iranians can use also against Europe, and they declared, the

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Speaker 5: Iranians declare that all the armies of Europe are terror armies.

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Speaker 5: So I think it is also time for other states

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Speaker 5: to step in and to do something in order to

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Speaker 5: create a safer world.

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Speaker 1: Would you say there's a difference between what they tell

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Speaker 1: you privately and often what they put out public.

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Speaker 5: There is some difference in some cases, but this is

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Speaker 5: the diplomatic world, and we always have more sympathy in

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Speaker 5: close rooms than we have in the international multilateral forums.

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Speaker 5: It is something we are used to experience.

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Speaker 1: Vladimir Putin has condemned these attacks. Have you heard of

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Speaker 1: anything more ridiculous than that?

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Speaker 5: That was funny when President putty is put In spoke

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Speaker 5: about the international law. Really it's something amazing, and it's

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Speaker 5: not for the first time that Russians are speaking about

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Speaker 5: international law or such things which they never implement themselves.

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Speaker 5: But it's not a surprise. Iran was Russia's all in

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Speaker 5: the war in Ukraine, so it didn't came as a

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Speaker 5: surprise for us.

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Speaker 2: Do you trust the United Kingdom?

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Speaker 5: I trust the IDF.

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Speaker 1: Lebanon Hesbela. You've changed from a defensive war into an

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Speaker 1: offensive war. Your chief of staff of the IDF, which

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Speaker 1: you trust, has said this could be extended. This could

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Speaker 1: be a much longer war. What do you need to

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Speaker 1: achieve before you consider it? A win against Hesbola is

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Speaker 1: an entire eradication.

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Speaker 5: They declare a war on us during the night, very

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Speaker 5: late at night. They lounged missiles and drones to our

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Speaker 5: It's only demonstrated that Lebanon, unfortunately is still under Iranian occupation.

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Speaker 5: They are not free with all their declarations about getting

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Speaker 5: operational control on the southern part of Lebanon. This is

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Speaker 5: the places which from the conduct his Balla attacked against

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Speaker 5: us last night. So it demonstrated the importance that Lebanon

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Speaker 5: will be free, and it cannot be free until hes

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Speaker 5: Bala will be dismantled. Anyhow, we will act in Lebanon,

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Speaker 5: and we launched as a response a massive attack and

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Speaker 5: we will continue to act there. But we are not

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Speaker 5: taking our eyes off the ball which is the war

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Speaker 5: in Iran, because Iran is the head of the snake.

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Speaker 5: Iran had financed his Bolla from the beginning from the

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Speaker 5: ceasefire during the last year with one point two two

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Speaker 5: billion dollars. They are also financing hamas more than they

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Speaker 5: did before this war. So it is very important. All

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Speaker 5: these turb proxies are leaving finance trained by the Iranians

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Speaker 5: and to take out this vicious regime will change the

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Speaker 5: equation in much more areas in this region.

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Speaker 1: Do you and America share the exact same goals for

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Speaker 1: this war, or is there a scenario in which America

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Speaker 1: will stop because they've achieved theirs and Israel will continue.

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Speaker 5: Well, we both share the same analysis, and we share

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Speaker 5: the same goals, and we are consulting and we are

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Speaker 5: working together in a very intimate way. Of course, each

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Speaker 5: took decisions in both those countries according to how they

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Speaker 5: analyze their interests. Ourselves and also the Americans, and I

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Speaker 5: believe that we continue to consult and to work together.

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Speaker 1: Final question, looking ahead, what is a win? When does

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Speaker 1: it end? What does Israel need to know for sure

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Speaker 1: with certainty has occurred for you to again consider this

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Speaker 1: a win for Israel.

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Speaker 5: The objective is clear, is to remove existential threats from

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Speaker 5: Iran for the long term. And this cannot happen while

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Speaker 5: this regime is in power, because they hadn't changed their goal.

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Speaker 5: So we will have to do it again within one

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Speaker 5: year or within two years, as we did last June.

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Speaker 5: So there must be a change there. Of course, we

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Speaker 5: take into consideration that it won't to be achieved during

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Speaker 5: this campaign itself, but the campaign should create the conditions

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Speaker 5: for the Iranian people, which are the only one that

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Speaker 5: can replace this regime. And we will create the conditions

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Speaker 5: by weakening this regime to an accident where a regime

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Speaker 5: change will be possible during the campaign or after the campaign.

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Speaker 5: But this is the only thing we see as a

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Speaker 5: mean to protect our will to remove these existential threats

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Speaker 5: from ourselves.

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Speaker 1: Foreign Minister, thank you so much for your time, and

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Speaker 1: thank you on behalf of the Western world for taking

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Speaker 1: up this fight. I truly believe in it, and I'm

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Speaker 1: very grateful.

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Speaker 5: Thank you, Thank you, Erin, thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: So now we've got some fan feedback, and yesterday's was salty,

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Speaker 1: so I'll try and keep.

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Speaker 2: This a little bit more above board for you.

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Speaker 1: Leia says, and this is regard guarding my interview with Gazelle,

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Speaker 1: whose father Jimmy, was murdered by this Islamic regime. I

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Speaker 1: wanted to get her reaction to what's occurred over the

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Speaker 1: last few days. Wonderful guest, Aaron, so much important information.

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Speaker 1: I love the spelling lecture. Some people just can't get

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Speaker 1: their minds out of the gutter. Yes, agree entirely. Brac says,

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I don't even know what to comment first,

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Speaker 1: you're brilliant interviews or your spelling lessons.

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Speaker 2: Do you really liked my spelling lessons? Maybe I should

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Speaker 2: do these each week. You go, Barbie, we all love

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Speaker 2: you and want to see you do more. That's from

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Speaker 2: Peter MOI thanks Peter. Paul says you're the best. I

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Speaker 2: love your spelling lessons. God really into the spelling lessons. Hooley.

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Speaker 1: Dooley says, love to the interview with Gazelle. She is

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Speaker 1: a delight. She is absolutely a delight. Chrisna says, listening

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Speaker 1: to your channel keeps me sane. I was at a

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Speaker 1: barbecue earlier today with the only acceptable view was that

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Speaker 1: Trump is out of control, starting wars that put up

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Speaker 1: petrol prices and delay people's flights.

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Speaker 2: You poor thing.

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Speaker 1: You need to not go to those barbecues unless it's

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Speaker 1: like your mother. Even then, just Paul is sicky. That

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Speaker 1: sounds terrific. George says, I do not always agree with

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Speaker 1: what you say, but appreciate.

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Speaker 2: Your intellect and eloquence. Now I must add to it

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Speaker 2: your sense of humor.

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Speaker 1: Rudent obnoxious comments certainly hurts you, as would any sensible person.

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Speaker 2: No, they don't hurt me. I love you, George, and

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Speaker 2: thank you.

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Speaker 1: I love that you agree with some and you disagree

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Speaker 1: with other points. That's very healthy. But I promise you

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Speaker 1: those comments do not hurt me. They make me laugh.

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Speaker 1: I think they're very funny. And Jasmine says, thank your

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Speaker 1: own for speaking the truth to the world. From South Africa, Halla,

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Speaker 1: all you legends in South Africa, We've got a big

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Speaker 1: audience in South Africa. John Clinton Jamadu says, I'm in

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Speaker 1: love with the brain of Aussie women. Thanks John, It's

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Speaker 1: nice to have my brain referenced. And Ilan says Aaron

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Speaker 1: Wei in Israel, love you and admire your integrity. You

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Speaker 1: speak the plain truth while so many others deny. You're

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Speaker 1: incredibly brave and we admire your courage in supporting both

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Speaker 1: the Jewish people and the Iranian people during our darkest

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Speaker 1: time since the Holocaust. Well, i'd say to you, Ilan,

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Speaker 1: this will now be your brightest time. I have no doubt,

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Speaker 1: and it's in an honor and a privilege to stand

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Speaker 1: alongside you and to fight alongside your people.

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Speaker 2: What a monumental moment in history to be a part of.

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Speaker 2: Love you all.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much. We'll see you Wednesday morning at

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Speaker 1: six am. Otherwise, you know we'll continue to share stuff

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Speaker 1: all day and all night by