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Speaker 3: There. Hey, everybody, thanks so much for joining us right

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Speaker 3: here on the right view tonight, we're joined by retired

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the show. I'm always so excited to talk

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Speaker 3: so much for all you've done and continue to do.

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Speaker 3: You rose to lieutenant and one of the toughest departments

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Speaker 4: Well, I appreciate so much you have me on the show.

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Speaker 4: Trajectory to Las Vegas was a little different. I was

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. I mean, yeah, that it is quite

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Speaker 3: And I assume it gave you the action that you

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Speaker 4: Oh, the challenges that that Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department

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Speaker 5: And yes, I had life changing.

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Speaker 3: Well, I will tell you are not the only person

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Speaker 4: Well, I consider myself very fortunate. From the time I

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Speaker 4: And I can tell you this that there is no

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Speaker 5: You know, as a law enforcement.

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Speaker 5: They want to play a role.

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Speaker 4: In protecting others and also at the same time protecting

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Speaker 3: I totally agree with you, and I have members of

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Speaker 3: A job where you know that without people who were

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Speaker 3: Because you know, I feel like you've had so many

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Speaker 1: These are great men and women.

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Speaker 3: But we have also had a great president who is

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Speaker 3: But where do you think things stand right now? Do

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Speaker 5: And yet they were they were not only.

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Speaker 4: Now, why is that significant Because you mentioned a date

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Speaker 4: and it's tough raising money. Well, country music stars they're

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Speaker 1: But not that I was gonna go there, Randy.

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Speaker 5: But you can't, of course not.

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Speaker 4: But if enough people do that, we can literally that

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Speaker 4: nine to one to one, The Fight for America's Safety,

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Speaker 3: So great, well, gosh, it's a win win for everybody. Listen,

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Speaker 4: Wow, you know what, Like I said, everything in my

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Speaker 3: point where you realize that baseball was more than just

442
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:38,720
Speaker 3: like kind of going out and having fun and just

443
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 3: a game for you, right.

444
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, I think I always enjoyed the game

445
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 6: of baseball. I loved sports in general. I enjoyed you

446
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:50,160
Speaker 6: know what, basketball, I actually played soccer, I was a goalkeeper.

447
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 6: I love that I didn't get to play football. My

448
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,000
Speaker 6: mom was actually thinking I was too skinny. She was

449
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,720
Speaker 6: afraid of break in half when I played, so I

450
00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,159
Speaker 6: didn't get to play that. But baseball was kind of

451
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 6: my thing man sport. It's kind of it came very

452
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,400
Speaker 6: natural for me. I had to work really hard at basketball.

453
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 6: I'd work really hard at soccer. I just didn't have

454
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 6: to work as hard at baseball. For whatever reason, I

455
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:11,879
Speaker 6: had a lot of raw talent, but I really didn't

456
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 6: understand what I had. I just went out and threw

457
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:15,880
Speaker 6: the ball real hard. And I like to play first base,

458
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 6: and I like to hit and run around the bases.

459
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:18,640
Speaker 2: I think my.

460
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:22,679
Speaker 6: Junior year was when I was actually playing for a

461
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,280
Speaker 6: summer ball team and just having a good time. I

462
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,480
Speaker 6: was just, I was just I just enjoyed playing baseball.

463
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 6: And I got done pitching against a guy that was

464
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 6: playing shortstop for another team that I guess there were

465
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:35,400
Speaker 6: scouts there watching him.

466
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:36,600
Speaker 2: I had no.

467
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 6: Idea, and so I just pitched against him. And after

468
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:40,639
Speaker 6: the game, the scouts came up to me and they

469
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,639
Speaker 6: asked my name. That's where I went to school, and

470
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:45,679
Speaker 6: I kind of was a little taken back because that's

471
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:47,440
Speaker 6: a weird thing to ask kids right after they get

472
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 6: done playing a game.

473
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 2: Random stranger was coming up and asking that.

474
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,240
Speaker 6: But then he asked me to take a psychoval and

475
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 6: I was a little bit weirded out by it. And

476
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 6: then they just said, I'm a scout for some baseball

477
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,680
Speaker 6: teams and we're kind of in the area.

478
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:02,200
Speaker 2: And then I was just excited.

479
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 5: I was.

480
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:04,440
Speaker 6: I was just like, Wow, that's pretty cool. And so

481
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 6: I took these psychic valves. Didn't think much of it

482
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,679
Speaker 6: because I just loved playing the game. And then I

483
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 6: think it was probably my first high school game after

484
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 6: Summer Ball of my senior year, and all of a sudden,

485
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,920
Speaker 6: there's thirty scouts at the game, all with these radar guns.

486
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 6: And I went to a really small school, so I

487
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,199
Speaker 6: went through to Northwest Christian. I mean it was k

488
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 6: through twelve five hundred people. I mean it was it

489
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,479
Speaker 6: was not big, and so I think there's more scouts

490
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 6: than fans at the game. And then it kind of

491
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,360
Speaker 6: got real for me, you know, And and then colleges

492
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,360
Speaker 6: started coming in, and then I got offered a really

493
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:40,200
Speaker 6: good scholarship from Gonzaga, which is in my hometown a Spokane,

494
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 6: and then I got drafted in the third round.

495
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 2: So it was kind of not one of those things

496
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:44,200
Speaker 2: where I knew it.

497
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 6: It was just all happened, and I just didn't really

498
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 6: understand exactly what I was getting into, except for the

499
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 6: chance I got to go play professional baseball for a

500
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 6: professional team. And it was the Kansas City Royals, and

501
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 6: at that time I didn't really know much about them.

502
00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,200
Speaker 6: You know, we heard the Yankees and the Dodgers and

503
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,399
Speaker 6: the Giants and all these teams. But the Royals drafted me,

504
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 6: and I kind of was just so green. I just

505
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 6: said I'll try it, and I went after it and

506
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 6: I had a good time, and next thing I know,

507
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 6: it was in the big leagues four years later.

508
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 2: It is kind of crazy.

509
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it certainly seems like it all worked out

510
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 1: for you.

511
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 3: I want to ask you this, though, at what age

512
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,119
Speaker 3: did you first start playing baseball?

513
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 1: How old were you young?

514
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 6: I was probably five or six when my first t ball,

515
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,719
Speaker 6: and I did not have a summer off until I

516
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 6: was thirty seven years old.

517
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 2: My first summer was when I retired. It was thirty seven.

518
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:32,639
Speaker 6: I actually, like, man, this is what it's like to

519
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 6: be able to go to a lake and not have to,

520
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 6: you know, just enjoy it and not have to go

521
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,439
Speaker 6: anywhere or be at a baseball field. It definitely was

522
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 6: very interesting retiring, But I started really early.

523
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:43,880
Speaker 3: Well, so my kids are six and eight. My son

524
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,400
Speaker 3: is eight, and he's really into a lot of sports too.

525
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 3: He'll tell you he's going to be It vacillates between

526
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,879
Speaker 3: whether he's going to the NBA or the NFL, but

527
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,440
Speaker 3: he hasn't done that. Baseball is like the only only

528
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,119
Speaker 3: thing he hasn't really played, but he kind of seems

529
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,920
Speaker 3: like he wants to. So I feel like we still

530
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 3: got a chance to get him in there and have

531
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,399
Speaker 3: some success at eight years old. But I noticed that

532
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 3: the kids I feel like, start so young who end

533
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 3: up kind of on that trajectory, And as a mom,

534
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,160
Speaker 3: I feel like it stresses me out because I'm like, well,

535
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 3: what if I decide he should hone in on this

536
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,360
Speaker 3: or that, and he actually should have gone the other way.

537
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,639
Speaker 3: But from what you've said, it kind of seems like

538
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 3: you went towards where it kind of like your heart

539
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,439
Speaker 3: wasn't naturally you were just that much, you know, it

540
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 3: was just easy for you to play baseball. So maybe

541
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:31,679
Speaker 3: I've got to start thinking about that. What advice do

542
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:33,919
Speaker 3: you have for a mom out there struggling.

543
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 6: I think that you go through exactly what every parent

544
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:37,440
Speaker 6: goes through.

545
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 5: You know, I go through it.

546
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 6: I mean I have an eighteen year old, a fifteen

547
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 6: year old, and a thirteen year old, and.

548
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 2: My wife and I talked about this all the time.

549
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 5: You know.

550
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 6: Our eighteen year old is six foot five, two hundred

551
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 6: and fifty pounds. He's a strong kid. He played football,

552
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,640
Speaker 6: did not play baseball. Never picked up a baseball really.

553
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 6: I think he played one year. Yeah, never played big

554
00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,359
Speaker 6: None of my sons played baseball, none of them.

555
00:27:59,240 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

556
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 6: And our our and he could be a really good

557
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 6: football player in college. And he's just like dad, I

558
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 6: want to be in business. I want to focus on that.

559
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 6: I don't want to focus on football. And you're like, okay, great.

560
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 6: My fifteen year old plays golf for his golf team,

561
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:18,360
Speaker 6: and our thirteen year old is is football and basketball,

562
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 6: and none of them play baseball.

563
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 2: I never pushed them.

564
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 6: I just say, hey, the only thing I've told them

565
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,160
Speaker 6: is once you start something, you cannot quit that year.

566
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 1: Yes, yep, we have the same rule.

567
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 3: In my house, same exact rule, and they fight you

568
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 3: on it, but you got to stick with it.

569
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 1: I think it's very importing.

570
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 6: That's right, that's right, because team you got, you have

571
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 6: to do it. You can't quit if it gets tough.

572
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 6: It just doesn't work that way. And parents out here

573
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 6: they're putting so much money, I mean tens of thousands

574
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 6: of dollars into their kids' sports programs and traveling. And

575
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 6: every every guy I've talked to, I mean in my

576
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 6: era of baseball, we all laugh and man, we're like,

577
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 6: you could put all the money you want into it.

578
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,959
Speaker 6: You either are aren't a baseball but you are going

579
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 6: to be a big leader. You're not Like, yes you

580
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 6: need to develop, Yes you need to try to get

581
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 6: with people that can help with skills and teaching skills,

582
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 6: but you can't spend all this money and expect they'll

583
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 6: still get there.

584
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 2: They won't.

585
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 6: And a lot of these kids are burning out because

586
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 6: parents are so stressed. They're getting them into everything, and

587
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 6: then we got to go here, We're gonna go there

588
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 6: somewhere to sport, Like I gotta go to soccer practice

589
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 6: and then I got to go to baseball practice after that.

590
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 6: And these kids just get warm out and at sixteen

591
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 6: they're just like, I don't want to play anymore, and

592
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 6: the parents are devastated.

593
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 5: You know.

594
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 6: So I think what you're doing is a mom I

595
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:32,959
Speaker 6: think you don't don't overstress it.

596
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 2: I think you just met out.

597
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 6: Hey, give me, give me, give me one thing, one

598
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 6: hundred percent when you go out there, give me a

599
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 6: hundred percent of practice, one hundred percent on the field,

600
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 6: give everything you got, and then we'll let's see where

601
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 6: the cards follow when you're eighteen. Either you go to

602
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 6: college and play sports, you don't get you get drafted,

603
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 6: or you don't like it's okay. Just make sure you

604
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 6: give one hundred percent. And I think it takes a

605
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 6: lot of stress off families when you think of it

606
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 6: that way.

607
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 1: It's so true.

608
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 3: And I feel like everyone is in competition with one another,

609
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 3: like here's how much stuff that this kid does and

610
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 3: that kid does and mine does this, and it's crazy.

611
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 3: Jeremy right, It's like, yeah, no, I know, well that's

612
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 3: just good advice.

613
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 1: I'm glad.

614
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 3: I'm glad we talked about this, because, yeah, I feel

615
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 3: like we're all dealing with the same stuff, no matter

616
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 3: where we live, no matter our last names, like, your

617
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 3: kids are your kids, and you want them to be successful.

618
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 3: And you know, some of the greatest lessons I ever

619
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 3: had as a kid and growing up came from actually

620
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 3: failures of mine within different sports that I played. And

621
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 3: nothing was a better lesson for me than not winning,

622
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 3: than losing, than not making the team. Look at Michael Jordan,

623
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 3: who didn't who got cut from the basketball team, and

624
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 3: he came back to be the greatest of all time.

625
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 3: So I mean, you know, we got all those all

626
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 3: those things, but for you, listen, it really worked out.

627
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 3: You've played for four organizations and one three World Series

628
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 3: with the Giants. That's pretty that's pretty solid, Jeremy, I

629
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 3: gotta be honest, Yeah, is there one of the rings

630
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 3: that means the most to you?

631
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 5: Yeah?

632
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 6: You know, actually the third one, And there's a reason

633
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 6: for that. Some people always STI would say the first one.

634
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 6: So I actually was a part of a World Series

635
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 6: in two thousand and seven with the Rockies when the

636
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 6: Boston Red Sox beat US.

637
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 2: So I was a part of four and the very

638
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 2: first one I lost.

639
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 6: And for most ballplayers, they'll tell you if you get

640
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 6: to one and lose, that's it. There's not really this.

641
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 6: You don't bank on the fact that you're going to

642
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 6: be a part of another World Series. You just don't.

643
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 6: It's just a very rare thing. I mean, I put

644
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 6: with Griffy. You know, Ken Griffy Junior is one of

645
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 6: my favorite teammates in Cincinnati. He never got to a

646
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 6: World Series and that guy is one of the greatest

647
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 6: baseball players of all time. Right, so you can't you

648
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 6: don't know what team you're gonna be on. And I

649
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 6: lost the first one. And the interesting thing is the

650
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 6: each one of my sons was born on a World

651
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 6: Series year, I believe it or not. So in two

652
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 6: thousand and seven, my oldest was born, in twenty ten,

653
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 6: my middle son was born in twenty twelve, was our

654
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 6: youngest was born, and so everything is a World Series year. Well,

655
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 6: my middle son and our youngest son is they used

656
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 6: get ring World Series rings. That's what I So I'm

657
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 6: gonna gift them in their life, like that's something that

658
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 6: you're that's gonna be yours. Well, my youngest, my oldest

659
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 6: gets a loser ring. You get a loser ring when

660
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 6: you lose the World Series too, and so it's like

661
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 6: he gets the National League Championship Series, and I'm like, man,

662
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 6: these boys, I just know how they're gonna be when

663
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 6: they're older.

664
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 2: They're just gonna be like, oh, how what's your ring

665
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 2: look like?

666
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 5: Walker?

667
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 6: I just knew it, you know, And so in the

668
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 6: back of my head, I was like, man, it would

669
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 6: be nice. And so when we won the third World Championship,

670
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 6: I got interviewed after the game and many that's the

671
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 6: same thing, and said what does this mean to you?

672
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 6: And I said, it means my son, all three of

673
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 6: my sons get a representation of this championship. And I

674
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 6: said my and and so now they all three get one.

675
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 6: And the other reason why it was super important was

676
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 6: I got drafted by Kansas City. I went through some

677
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 6: of my worst storms in Kansas City, wanted to quit

678
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 6: baseball while I played in Kansas City before I got

679
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 6: traded to Colorado. And the next time I was on

680
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 6: that field was in twenty fourteen when I walked off

681
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 6: a champion, and it was like a full circle of

682
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,479
Speaker 6: life of like getting brought up by this team, feeling

683
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 6: like a loser and just hated the game of baseball,

684
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 6: to now I leave that same exact field that I

685
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 6: grew up that I got to the big leagues on

686
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 6: as a champion. It was for a different team, but

687
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 6: it was like a circle of life for me, and

688
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 6: I actually retired a year later because I said, that's it.

689
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 2: I don't need anything else. This is something better. And

690
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 2: so that was why that's probably my favorite.

691
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 6: And I still wear it when I speak and stuff

692
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 6: like that. I wear that one when I'm out speaking.

693
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 1: That's so cool.

694
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,719
Speaker 3: Well, that's a good reason I like that. And listen,

695
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 3: who doesn't love a great comeback story. And I feel

696
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 3: like if you're paying attention out there when you have

697
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 3: those full circle moments, like you know that God set

698
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 3: it up for you, Jeremy, like in this perfect way.

699
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 3: I mean, I've seen it in my life. I certainly

700
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 3: think I can look at my father in law in

701
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 3: a lot of respects and see it in his life.

702
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 3: It's kind of amazing when you take it in and

703
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 3: you realize, like, oh my gosh, this first thing happens

704
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 3: so that I could get here, and without that, you know,

705
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 3: failure or that thing that I didn't get that I

706
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 3: thought was going to be the end, I wouldn't have

707
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 3: gotten to where I am today. And so I love

708
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 3: all of those moments, But you talk about a storm.

709
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 3: The title of your book is built for the storm.

710
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 3: So what's kind of the central message, what's the takeaway

711
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 3: for everybody after they finish the book.

712
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 6: You mentioned something earlier about sports and like some of

713
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:31,839
Speaker 6: those failures teaching you and I've always called I don't

714
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 6: like the word failure. I really don't. I think it's

715
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,839
Speaker 6: a It is a shameful word. It do just to

716
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 6: say the word fail makes you feel somewhat shamed or embarrassed, right,

717
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 6: just the word. And I tell people that they're teachable moments.

718
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 5: That's all they are.

719
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 6: You succeed or you have teachable moments. It's one or

720
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 6: the other. Because there's always a reason you go through something.

721
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 6: And that's what I want people to get to get

722
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 6: through my book. In the center, in the core message,

723
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 6: you are not meant to run from storms when they

724
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:00,879
Speaker 6: come at you. You just are not. They're not meant

725
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 6: to Life is not meant to break you. It's not

726
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,320
Speaker 6: meant to break you. There's things you go through in life,

727
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 6: whether they're the most extreme crazy health issues to fail marriages,

728
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 6: to loss of jobs to whatever it is, it's not

729
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 6: meant to break you. It's meant to build you. It's

730
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 6: meant to it's meant to prepare you because you have

731
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 6: a purpose in your life. And I said this the

732
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 6: other day when I told you, I was talking to

733
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 6: some guys. I'm like, you have a purpose, and these

734
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 6: storms are not meant to break you. They're meant to

735
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 6: actually train you. It's like a membership he really didn't

736
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 6: sign up for, right, like a gym membership.

737
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 2: Yeah.

738
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, you literally, it's literally meant to train you, to

739
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 6: get you ready for the purpose that for the reason

740
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 6: that you're on that you walk this earth. And I

741
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 6: think that God sits there and he weeps with you,

742
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 6: He laughs with you, he cries with you.

743
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 2: He understands them.

744
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 6: He's just not going to rescue you from them because

745
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:51,320
Speaker 6: he knows if I can get you through this, it'll

746
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 6: prepare you for what's ahead. Because if I let you

747
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 6: go through what's ahead, I'm prepared.

748
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 2: It can end you. It can.

749
00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 5: I mean.

750
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 6: And you see people when they run from storms, they

751
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 6: literally they mentally, emotionally or physically die suicide to just

752
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 6: mentally just give up or emotionally just like cave in

753
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 6: and become numb, and they get addicted to all kinds

754
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 6: of stuff because they don't understand that the storm was

755
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,879
Speaker 6: not meant to be against you. It's meant to train

756
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 6: you and to charge that storm. And that's why I

757
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 6: talk about the buffalo mentality. They're the only animals in

758
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,280
Speaker 6: North America that when storms come over the rocky mountains

759
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 6: that run right at it. The rest run away from it.

760
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:30,359
Speaker 6: And they run at it for a reason, and that's

761
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 6: so they can get out of it. And they're built

762
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 6: for it. And that's what when I sign all my books,

763
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:36,359
Speaker 6: every one of them says, you're built for it.

764
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 2: You are built for storms. It is you're.

765
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 6: Supposed to go through them, and you're supposed to go

766
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,359
Speaker 6: at them, and you're supposed to dig in and charge them.

767
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 6: And that's very important that that's the message I really

768
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:48,800
Speaker 6: want people to understand in life.

769
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,800
Speaker 3: By the way, amen to all of that. I couldn't

770
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 3: agree with you more. And it's so hard when you're

771
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 3: in whatever it is you're struggling with, right no one

772
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 3: wants to be in that moment. But if you think

773
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 3: about the fact that, look, life is about peaks and valleys.

774
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,720
Speaker 3: Life is not supposed to be just a flat line.

775
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 3: You're supposed to go through the things that suck, so

776
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 3: they prepare you, as you said, and then how much

777
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,359
Speaker 3: more enjoyable are the things that are great. I think

778
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,439
Speaker 3: of about a lot of it, like almost like working

779
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 3: out a muscle, right, You're never gonna get anything out

780
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 3: of just going into the gym and like not feeling

781
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 3: anything when you work out.

782
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 1: You work out.

783
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 3: It kind of sucks, It hurts, it's painful to go

784
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,320
Speaker 3: through some of it. You come out stronger on the

785
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 3: other side of that. That's It's like a metaphor for life.

786
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 3: And I love that you wrote a book about this.

787
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 3: You talked about a second ago two facing the storms.

788
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 3: You talk about literal storms you face in this book tornadoes,

789
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,320
Speaker 3: you know, surviving a near fatal accident as a kid.

790
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:54,280
Speaker 3: I mean, tell me about the hardest storm, so to speak,

791
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,320
Speaker 3: that you had to go through and how it shaped

792
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 3: you and really played into this book.

793
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, I didn't understand storms for the longest time,

794
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 6: you know, I kind of you got frustrated with them,

795
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:09,800
Speaker 6: and I didn't really necessarily have huge storms until a fuser, Yes,

796
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 6: being attacked almost literally almost that hammerhead coming over the

797
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 6: reef and I had to get swiped up and then

798
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 6: head on and I had a head on car collision

799
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 6: that I walked away from. I'm a way to spring training.

800
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 6: A girl hit me up fifty five miles an hour

801
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 6: and I walked out of the car. I didn't I

802
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 6: just walked away from it. And too so many different

803
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 6: scenarios in life, and I had a lot of storms

804
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 6: in baseball, and so you think of all these things

805
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 6: and you're like, yeah, but I wouldn't say that that is.

806
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 2: Something where you could look at in life.

807
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 6: And I always thought about it as like, oh, I'm

808
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 6: gonna say this, and people are gonna be like, oh man,

809
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,839
Speaker 6: it's super sad or like poor, you know, like there

810
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 6: wasn't that extreme situation for me until about in twenty twenty.

811
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 6: So I had been married for twenty two years and

812
00:38:59,239 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 6: we had three boys.

813
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 2: We lost.

814
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,839
Speaker 6: I lost the marriage and it was terrible. And I'm

815
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 6: against divorce. I'm against it. I'm a family guy. I man,

816
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 6: I believe man that got it.

817
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 2: I believe it.

818
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 6: What he brings together, no man should separate. I mean,

819
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 6: I believe all of that. And so when when when

820
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 6: the marriage ended, I was so devastated and scared and

821
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 6: lost and trying to protect my sons, because it wasn't

822
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 6: trying to let them know nothing to do with you,

823
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 6: nothing to do this is.

824
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:27,320
Speaker 2: Not your fault.

825
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 6: Uh, you know like your mom and I love you

826
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 6: like so that that was a huge storm for me

827
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 6: and I had to walk that out and and it

828
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,399
Speaker 6: was not in my decision and so it was a

829
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 6: terrible thing and a scary thing to go through. And

830
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 6: that's when I actually started understanding the buffalo mentality. Is

831
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 6: my therapist who was walking me through my life and

832
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 6: breaking down a thing called a trauma egg where she

833
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 6: was like, I'm going to show you why you are

834
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,760
Speaker 6: a certain way or act a certain way when things happen,

835
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,040
Speaker 6: because it's all about life, right, like how you what

836
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 6: what happened in family history stuff, and it's going through

837
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 6: all of it. And she finally said, have you ever

838
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,720
Speaker 6: read about the buffalo mentality? And I said no, Man,

839
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 6: she said, I want you to read that article and

840
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 6: it was about an article written is very well done.

841
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 2: I think it was in the nation.

842
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 6: It was in like the Tennessee and I think and

843
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 6: he wrote about what buffalo do and why they charged,

844
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,800
Speaker 6: why cow's run away, and why buffalo's charge storms. Hence

845
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 6: life when storms come at you. Why you should charge them?

846
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 6: And I was going home to read it and my

847
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 6: ex my teammate, my ex teammate Matt Cain, who was

848
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,919
Speaker 6: still playing for the Giants at the time, had called

849
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 6: me and said, I know you're going through something really

850
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 6: rough man, and you're not talking to me because I

851
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 6: wouldn't talk to anybody about the situation.

852
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 2: I was super scared.

853
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 6: And he said, but our sports psychologists and our team

854
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:46,839
Speaker 6: just gave us an article today.

855
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 2: I want you to read it. It was the same article.

856
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 2: It was the same on the same day.

857
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:55,399
Speaker 6: And I'm like, well, God, I guess, yeah, I guess

858
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 6: I should read it. And when I read it it

859
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 6: something happened in me of like, like, this is the

860
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 6: situation I'm in. I'm not gonna run from it what

861
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 6: it is. I'm gonna take this on. And God, I

862
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 6: don't know what you have for me in this. I'm

863
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,280
Speaker 6: super I was super angry at God. I was super

864
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 6: angry at I mean, I was mad. I was like,

865
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 6: this is not okay. Like I literally did everything I

866
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,280
Speaker 6: could and serve my family. I didn't do it perfect

867
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 6: all the time, but I did. I wanted to be

868
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 6: a part of it, and I charged it and I

869
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 6: went at it, and I kept my sons, and my

870
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 6: sons are sick. My oldest lives with me with my wife.

871
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 6: I've been Mary Reed married for three years to a

872
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 6: beautiful woman who loves my boys and me a tremendous amount.

873
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 6: I mean, she's just amazing woman helps me in my

874
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 6: business now. And he presented her to in my life,

875
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 6: believe or not. She owned it herd of Buffalo when

876
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 6: I met her, which was like awesome. So there was

877
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:52,919
Speaker 6: so much good. And my oldest lives with this full

878
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:56,359
Speaker 6: time or other. Two boys go back and forth, but

879
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 6: it's really become good. And what I've learned about myself,

880
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 6: what I've learned about I'm a better husband, I'm a

881
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:04,800
Speaker 6: better father, I'm a better friend, all from the storm

882
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 6: that I went through and learning to take that storm on.

883
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 6: I mean, it's just it's been incredible. And I don't

884
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 6: wish upon everybody what I went through, but I can

885
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 6: say I really wouldn't change it. Uh And and to

886
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 6: this day, I still do not believe in divorce and

887
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 6: and so and and I've told my wife, Kennedy, and

888
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 6: my kid and she's my best friend, Like this is

889
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 6: it like I could promise you I'm not going anywhere

890
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 6: You're gonna have to kill me.

891
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 2: But I mean, I'm not going anywhere. Like I'm in it.

892
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 2: I don't care how bad it gets. I'm in it.

893
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 6: And and and there's nothing go to change that, and

894
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 6: and so that's such an important thing for me. So

895
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 6: I just thought I wanted to write to people to

896
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 6: get them to understand that I don't.

897
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:45,479
Speaker 2: I don't know what you're going through.

898
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 6: But I went through a lot, and I and and

899
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 6: it was not a it was a two year deal.

900
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 6: It was not good, and I just weathered it and

901
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 6: stayed good character, honored God. I mean I even told

902
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 6: my lawyer, I said, I will own whatever I need

903
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 6: to own. I will not lie, and I will let

904
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 6: God deal with the consequences. I said, if you fib

905
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,919
Speaker 6: about anything, if you try to sugarcoat anything, I'll call

906
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 6: you out right in the middle of the court.

907
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:09,879
Speaker 2: I will not lie.

908
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,399
Speaker 6: I will I will whatever they want to say if

909
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 6: I and I did it, and I did it well,

910
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 6: and I think I came out really really, I think

911
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 6: I came out so much better on the other side

912
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 6: of just like, this is who I am, and I

913
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 6: know I'm loved by God, and I know I'm a

914
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 6: good person and I'm a good father to my sons

915
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 6: and now and it shows my sons are great and

916
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 6: Kendice Snyer are or really thankful that our boys are

917
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 6: turning out the way.

918
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 1: They are amazing, I mean, just so amazing.

919
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 3: I love to hear you say, Jeremy, that you wouldn't

920
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:45,879
Speaker 3: change anything you went through, because I think, one, it's

921
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 3: a life defining thing, right, and you're not the same

922
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 3: person you were prior to having to go through all

923
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 3: of that, and it made you stronger, it made you better,

924
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,359
Speaker 3: it made you who you are today. Before I let

925
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 3: you go, I do want to talk to you about

926
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 3: your faith. I've heard you mentioned God several times in

927
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 3: your whole story, but faith does play a huge role

928
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 3: in your story.

929
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 1: I think.

930
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 3: So when did religion go from being sort of something

931
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 3: that was like a Sunday thing for you to what

932
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 3: very clearly looks like it's the center of your everyday life.

933
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, that's a good question, you know. I mean,

934
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 6: I was raised in a Christian home. My family, you know,

935
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 6: my dad was came from a line of Lutheran pastors.

936
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 6: Actually they're German and In fact, I have a Bible

937
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 6: from sixteen ten in German that's pretty close to the Gutenberg, right,

938
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 6: So like that's that was passed down into my family

939
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 6: and it was just it was a really cool deal

940
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 6: and it's.

941
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:39,439
Speaker 2: Been in my family for years.

942
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 6: My mom came from a Baptist background, so you got

943
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:45,760
Speaker 6: Lutheran and Baptist, so you got an interesting mix when

944
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:47,879
Speaker 6: you deal with that. But you know what, we went

945
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 6: to Evangelical free church or a non denomination most of

946
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 6: my life. But it was my parents, Like I got

947
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 6: up went to church with them, Like that's what you did.

948
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 6: Like I went to Ilwana, I went to church on Sunday,

949
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:01,919
Speaker 6: youth group on Wednesday, like you just did.

950
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 2: That was the family rhythm that we had.

951
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 6: And when I when I when I remember when I

952
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 6: left to play professional baseball. That was one thing that

953
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 6: some that I had a coach, Jim Moore, who was

954
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,760
Speaker 6: a basketball coach and also our athlete director at our school,

955
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 6: who was a good who is a mentor for me,

956
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 6: and he knew I had gone through a lot and

957
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 6: he said he looked at me and said, your faith

958
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 6: now is going to be who you are when you're

959
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 6: away from your family. Like now that your mom and

960
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 6: dad aren't getting you up to go to church on Sunday,

961
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 6: not and you don't have the role the expectation of

962
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:34,359
Speaker 6: the family. Now, who are you Because I got when

963
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 6: I got drafted, I got sent to Fort Myers, Florida,

964
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 6: like and now living in Spokane, Washington. So we're talking,

965
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 6: that's is far away from the you can get. Yeah,

966
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 6: And I remember I did I we in rookie ball.

967
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 6: We had church on we didn't have we didn't have

968
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 6: to go to the field on Sundays. That was our

969
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:54,280
Speaker 6: built in day off in rookie ball. When I signed

970
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:56,399
Speaker 6: as a kid and I went to church. I found

971
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 6: a church and I went and I enjoyed it, and

972
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 6: I read my Bible every day, and I broke down

973
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 6: the New Testament, and I remember, I, you know, somebody

974
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 6: was probably be a little bit scared of being on

975
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:07,399
Speaker 6: your own at eighteen. I've never been on my own

976
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 6: in my life, and I'm on my own. And and

977
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:11,360
Speaker 6: but I started reading it, and I think the Bible

978
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 6: finally came alive to the point of I had my

979
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:17,280
Speaker 6: relationship with Jesus, not my mom and dad's relationship with Jesus.

980
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 6: My relationship. I don't see scripture the same way that

981
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 6: my parents do to a tea. We don't. I don't

982
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 6: see it. We don't, you know, And they know that

983
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:28,320
Speaker 6: and nothing wrong with it. I just look at it differently,

984
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 6: and I see life differently. And but it's my life,

985
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 6: it's my personal relationship, and I stay close to that,

986
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 6: and it helped me through everything. Uh and and I'm

987
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 6: so thankful for that, and I'm unapologetic about it.

988
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 5: Was all.

989
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 6: I was unapologetic in the in the game I helped.

990
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:48,799
Speaker 6: I was very vocal about it. Then I'm not a

991
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 6: Bible thumper. I I do not do that. I I

992
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 6: don't just smack you on the head. I'll go have

993
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 6: a beer with you. I own a brewery. I have

994
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 6: a Bible study in my brewery on Thursdays, which in

995
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 6: the Bible Belt people are like, can you do that?

996
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:04,240
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm pretty sure I can. I own the place,

997
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 2: you know.

998
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 6: And So I loved everything about who Jesus is in

999
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:12,399
Speaker 6: my life and what in the journey He's taken me on.

1000
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 6: And it started literally when I started to understand that

1001
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,400
Speaker 6: when I left home, it wasn't about fire insurance, it

1002
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 6: wasn't about I just got saved because I saw you're

1003
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 6: probably in the same era of life. I don't want

1004
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 6: to aid you that'd be insulting, So I don't know

1005
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 6: where you're at, but I'm I used to watch all

1006
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 6: the we get pulled in the Sunday school class and

1007
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 6: we watch all the Revelation movies where like guillotines and

1008
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 6: people are leaving the earth and disappearing, and.

1009
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:40,800
Speaker 2: You got super scared.

1010
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:42,839
Speaker 6: You were like, I'm just gonna become a Christian because

1011
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 6: I'm scared of all that happening, you know, like they

1012
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 6: literally scared the hell out of you, you know, so

1013
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 6: like for me, it was it was one of those

1014
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 6: things where I learned to move on from that and

1015
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 6: be like, it's not about that. It's about who Jesus

1016
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 6: is and the relationship we have with him, and how

1017
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 6: important it is that we know that our life is

1018
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 6: short here, but we can make a big impact for

1019
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 6: the kingdom, and we can love people like Jesus wants

1020
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 6: us to love our neighbor as ourself, and that's kind

1021
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:10,840
Speaker 6: of what our matre is in our home. I have

1022
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 6: a tattoo on my forum that says, no man shall

1023
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:17,240
Speaker 6: live for himself that is my message to our family

1024
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 6: that I don't want you living for yourself. I want

1025
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 6: you to understand who Jesus wants you to live for.

1026
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,959
Speaker 6: And so that's super important and that's where I'm at right.

1027
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 3: So great, Well, Jeremy, tell everybody where they can find

1028
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 3: your book, and anyone who's interested in learning about how

1029
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 3: to get through whatever you're going through, because everybody goes

1030
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 3: through stuff all on their own.

1031
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, jeremyfl dot com is where you know where I

1032
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 6: send people. Because all the books if you go to

1033
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 6: my website, any book bought off my website, I signed personally,

1034
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:52,240
Speaker 6: and so I sign every book and my wife actually

1035
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 6: makes me sign a personal note and she says, I

1036
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 6: don't care how long it takes you.

1037
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 2: You owe that to the people by so I do that.

1038
00:48:57,960 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 2: It is available on Amazon.

1039
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 6: You don't get it signed on Amazon, and then it's

1040
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:04,319
Speaker 6: available on Audible as well, and I read it. I

1041
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:07,880
Speaker 6: personally did the odd so it's on all audible venues.

1042
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 6: However you get your audible books or listen to your books,

1043
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:12,879
Speaker 6: and I did. I personally read it because I felt

1044
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 6: like that message should come from me. So I read

1045
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 6: the book for Audible as well. So you can get

1046
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 6: them on all those things.

1047
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:21,319
Speaker 3: It's been great, amazing, amazing, Well, Jeremy, thank you for

1048
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,879
Speaker 3: thank you for being willing to put your story out there.

1049
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 3: It's not easy a lot of times, I think, especially

1050
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 3: in these very personal moments, to kind.

1051
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 1: Of share that with the world.

1052
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 3: But I think you doing it is probably helping a

1053
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 3: lot of people and making people realize that you're always

1054
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:42,360
Speaker 3: going to go through things that are tough, that are challenging.

1055
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 3: It's meant to happen that way. That is, that is

1056
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 3: how life is designed to prepare you for what is

1057
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:50,719
Speaker 3: coming next. So thank you for sharing your story, and

1058
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 3: thank you so much for spending.

1059
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 1: A little bit of time with us as well today.

1060
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 1: We appreciate it.

1061
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 5: No, it was great.

1062
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 2: Thank you for having me on. I appreciate the conversation absolutely.

1063
00:49:58,360 --> 00:49:59,800
Speaker 1: Best of luck with everything. Everybody.

1064
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 3: Go by Jeremy's book and as always, make sure you like, subscribe, share,

1065
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:05,360
Speaker 3: and follow. We'll see you back here next time for

1066
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 3: more of the Right View and wom back down, baby man.

1067
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Speaker 1: There ain't no way any way out.