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Speaker 4: All right, welcome to this special Saturday coverage live stream

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Speaker 4: of the United States Military along with Israel forces striking Iran.

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Speaker 4: We knew this was a potential. We actually sort of

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Speaker 4: warned about it all week long. We weren't sure when

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Speaker 4: or if. Even last we heard is that the president

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Speaker 4: was not confirmed either way. Well, now we know he

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Speaker 4: has authorized military strikes in the heart of Iran. We've

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Speaker 4: seen strikes all over actually even including the iatola's residents.

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Speaker 5: There are reports that he may he may be dead.

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Speaker 5: I don't think it's confirmed yet, but he certainly hasn't

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Speaker 5: done any dramatic appearances proving he's alive.

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Speaker 4: Well, and you also have to assume that they have

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Speaker 4: pre recorded videos of him, so if you see those,

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Speaker 4: stay frosty, as Jack Besobak always says, always wait for

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Speaker 4: the confirmation. But yes, we are seeing preliminary indications that

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Speaker 4: he could in fact be dead, along with other top

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Speaker 4: leaders of the IRGC, and it remains unclear though. It's

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Speaker 4: the fog of war. So the first casualty of war,

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Speaker 4: as they say, is the truth. So we have to

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Speaker 4: just say what we know, and this is what we know.

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Speaker 4: The United States and Israel launch coordinated major military strikes

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Speaker 4: on Iran today with US operation named Epic Fury and Israel,

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Speaker 4: which is called Roaring Line. President Donald Trump announced major

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Speaker 4: combat operations are underway aimed at destroying Iran's missile industry, navy,

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Speaker 4: and nuclear capabilities while preventing it from obtaining nuclear weapons.

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Speaker 4: Strikes targeted Iranian leadership, including apparent attempts on Supreme Leader

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Speaker 4: Ayatola Ali Kameni and the President, the armed forces, heads,

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Speaker 4: nuclear sites, missile facilities, and other regime military assets across

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Speaker 4: multiple cities, including of course, Tehran. Trump publicly urged Iranians

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Speaker 4: to rise up in his speech to take over your

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Speaker 4: government and seize their freedom, framing the action as an

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Speaker 4: opportunity for regime change against the wicked radical dictatorship and said,

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Speaker 4: in fact, he said that this was a once in

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Speaker 4: a generation opportunity, and obviously that's in response to the

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Speaker 4: massive wave of protests that rose up, at which point

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Speaker 4: the regime then killed tens of thousands of his own

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Speaker 4: citizens to quell. Iran then retaliated with a large wave

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Speaker 4: of ballistic missiles and drones targeting Israel, with intercepts reported

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Speaker 4: over areas like Haifa and Jerusalem and multiple US military

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Speaker 4: bases assets in the region. Iranian strikes hit US facilities,

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Speaker 4: including Al Udayid Air Base and cutter bases in Kuwait,

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Speaker 4: headquarters in Bahrain and other places in the Gulf. Explosion

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Speaker 4: and air defense activations were reported in Ua Dubai, Qatar, Bahrain, Kuwait,

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Speaker 4: on a girls' school in southern Iran. This is not,

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Speaker 4: as far as I'm aware, had been confirmed. That's per

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Speaker 4: but obviously that's a negative if true. The conflict marks

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Speaker 4: a massive, massive escalation, with Ongoi's operations expected over several days,

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Speaker 4: UN Security Council emergency meetings called, and global reactions ranging

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Speaker 4: from calls for restraint to fears of broader regional war

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Speaker 4: breaking out. This is nothing new, This happens just about

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Speaker 4: every time. And yeah, we are still waiting for confirmed

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Speaker 5: And that how to everyone, and that is that's how

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Speaker 5: for you know, the fog of war has been replaced

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Speaker 5: the age of AI. So you could see a video

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Speaker 5: You have to be careful, don't believe everything is true,

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Speaker 5: as we've learned in past US military interventions. So we're

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Speaker 5: watching everything, but really, unless the United States government itself

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Speaker 5: So far, there's been no reports of American casualties, but

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Speaker 5: the President did warn in his remarks last night, which

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Speaker 5: might happen. This is not like the strikes last summer

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Speaker 5: where it seems we struck their nuclear base and then

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Speaker 5: Iran was ready to sort of do this kfabe, shoot

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Speaker 6: They went wide on.

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Speaker 5: The Yes, this time, our stated intent is to bring

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Speaker 5: them to shoot at us for real this time, and

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Speaker 5: we're going to see how effective they are. On the

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Speaker 5: positive side, I will note that our first strikes went

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Speaker 5: based on that, I would guess Iran does not have

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Speaker 4: So the two waves of attack, one from the Israeli side,

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Speaker 4: one from the US. The US is going after military installations.

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Speaker 4: of a divide and conquer. It does appear that this

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Speaker 4: This was late last night, in the wee hours. This

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Speaker 7: Two fifty two, a short time ago, the United States

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Speaker 7: military began major combat operations in Iran. Our objective is

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Speaker 7: to defend the American people by eliminating eminent threats from

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Speaker 7: the Iranian regime, a vicious group of very hard, terrible people.

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Speaker 7: It's menacing activities directly in danger the United States, our troops,

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Speaker 7: our bases overseas, and our allies throughout the world. For

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Speaker 7: forty seven years, the Iranian regime has chanted death to

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Speaker 7: America and waged an unending campaign of bloodshed and mass murder,

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Speaker 4: So you know, I calling around this morning. You know,

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Speaker 4: it became very clear to me, you know that I

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Speaker 5: Now, and the President referred to that in his remarks.

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Speaker 4: But so if we're so, there's two different sort of

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Speaker 4: things we need to analyze here. There is the political

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Speaker 4: pray for all of our troops, We pray for peace.

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Speaker 4: We pray that there would be zero American casualties, although

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Speaker 4: as you said, Blake, the President has alluded that that

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Speaker 4: could happen. This The missile capabilities, especially of the Iranians,

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Speaker 4: are advanced, and one of the reasons that Israel throughout

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Speaker 4: a lot about nuclear They were very concerned about their

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Speaker 4: there will be an opportunity on the back end of this.

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Speaker 5: And obviously, if you have thoughts, send us messages. We're

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Speaker 5: that's unfolding, because we're here for you. That's why we're live. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: so we have a lot of just messages, you know,

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Speaker 5: referencing the nuclear stuff. As you said, the President did

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Speaker 5: directly mention that in his remarks as well. Let's play

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Speaker 7: It has always been the policy of the United States,

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Speaker 7: in particular my administration, that this terrorist regime can never

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Speaker 7: and we sought repeatedly to make a deal. We tried,

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Speaker 7: they rejected every opportunity to renounce their nuclear ambitions, and

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And I mean, so the other thing I would

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Speaker 4: say here is I'm seeing a lot of people on

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Speaker 4: the internet reference clips from Charlie and this is something

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Speaker 4: I was very aware of as a dynamic. I'm sure

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Speaker 4: you were aware of as well, Blake, But you know,

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Speaker 4: I've been called by multiple members of the press trying

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Speaker 4: you know? Here's here's what I know. Charlie was, by

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Speaker 6: He just was.

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Speaker 4: There's no getting around that. There's no there's there's no

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Speaker 4: I remember on multiple occasions he told me something along

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Speaker 6: And guess what. The Iranians have been a thorn.

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Speaker 4: that this is a days long struggle, that we are successful,

437
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Speaker 4: that the regime falls quickly, if that is the goal. Again,

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Speaker 4: I'm not saying I'm pro regime change. I'm saying, now

439
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Speaker 4: that we're here, what are the best outcomes. As a

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Speaker 4: matter of fact, I am very much like Charlie that

441
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Speaker 4: I am against regime change inherently by instinct, after everything

442
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Speaker 4: that happened after nine to eleven. But we are here now,

443
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Speaker 4: and this is why you elect a president, this is

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Speaker 4: why you trust. You have to at some point as

445
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Speaker 4: a republic that is representative of republic, you have to

446
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Speaker 4: trust your elected leaders to do the right things, especially

447
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Speaker 4: once you're in these types of situations. We can debate

448
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Speaker 4: whether this was the right move to do or not

449
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Speaker 4: at a later point. Certainly it is politically fraud, but

450
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Speaker 4: at this point we have to pray that it is

451
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Speaker 4: successful and that the best outcomes happen. And so far,

452
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Speaker 4: so far, we're not sure. But that is the hope

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Speaker 4: in DC. The hope in DC is that this is quick.

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Speaker 4: I will tell you that.

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Speaker 5: What some people are saying in the chat, we do

456
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Speaker 5: want to see what the base thinks about this. Uh,

457
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Speaker 5: these people want all of us dead. They consider us infidels.

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Speaker 5: If you don't understand that, you don't understand the people

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Speaker 5: of Iran. Well that that's interesting because I think part

460
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Speaker 5: of the optimistic case for this is that the Iranian

461
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Speaker 5: regime is unpopular. They did have a major uprising a

462
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Speaker 5: month ago. It has not been It is certainly not

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Speaker 5: a government that has made its people wealthier or better off.

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Speaker 5: So I think there is a lot of sentiment in

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Speaker 5: favor of toppling them. But it's also true that a

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Speaker 5: sometimes the quickest way to bolster support for a crappy

467
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Speaker 5: government is to have bombs falling on your country. So

468
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Speaker 5: we will see what unfolds in that dimension. Uh I

469
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Speaker 5: support the United States from Dylan uh sunshines Sunshine Kim says.

470
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Speaker 5: People have jumped to conclusions with everything Trump has done,

471
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Speaker 5: and he was proven right each time. So that is

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Speaker 5: what we are hoping for. We saw that with the

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Speaker 5: strike last summer. We'll be frank. Charlie was very wary

474
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Speaker 5: of that. I was very wary of that. I think

475
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Speaker 5: all of us were. But in the end, the strike

476
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Speaker 5: was successful, there were no casualties, there was no serious retaliation,

477
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Speaker 5: so he was able to properly thread the needle to

478
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Speaker 5: get the US involved without it escalating or extending into

479
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Speaker 5: something prolonged. And if there's a similar arrangement here, I

480
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Speaker 5: think we I'll be frank. We see opposition to this

481
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Speaker 5: from people who are on the right, who are in

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Speaker 5: the President's space, but success justifies itself. If this is

483
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Speaker 5: a short war, if this is a decisive war, if

484
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Speaker 5: US casualties are low or even man we could pray

485
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Speaker 5: for this non existent, then there will very rapidly be some.

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Speaker 4: I mean, we have to brace ourselves to the fact

487
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Speaker 4: that there probably are going to be some casually, hopefully

488
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Speaker 4: not dead casualties. Remember, is sort of an all inclusive

489
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Speaker 4: express that could mean injured and dead. Let's hope that.

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Speaker 4: Let's hope that we lose no lives. But I think

491
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Speaker 4: it would be naive to anticipate that we don't have

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Speaker 4: some casualties in some form.

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Speaker 5: So be happy, says dear God, please protect our troops.

494
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Speaker 5: Then get them out of the Middle East. That was

495
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Speaker 5: my initial thought, and I actually I mentioned this on

496
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Speaker 5: X that I think the best success case for this

497
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Speaker 5: conflict is if you take the attitude Iran is the

498
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Speaker 5: last really major foe of the United States in the

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Speaker 5: Middle East. You have some terrorist groups in rural areas,

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Speaker 5: you have tinpot types, but this is the last regime

501
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Speaker 5: that could you know, is making a serious bid for

502
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Speaker 5: nuclear materials of any kind. And the thought is, if

503
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Speaker 5: you can topple them, this can be We've had a

504
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Speaker 5: lot of wars in the Middle East in the last

505
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Speaker 5: forty years. This could be our last war in the

506
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Speaker 5: Middle East. And if the President is able to come

507
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Speaker 5: out of this and say now we are able to

508
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Speaker 5: die back America's involvement here, we can send those troops

509
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Speaker 5: or send them to Asia to contain China. Yep, and

510
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Speaker 5: we're done with the Middle East. Other than you know,

511
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Speaker 5: we have a few allies there. We're buds with them.

512
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Speaker 5: They are our strategic friends. And if he can say,

513
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Speaker 5: I use the Abraham Accords to make it so everyone's

514
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Speaker 5: no longer at war with Israel, and I use this

515
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Speaker 5: to make it so Iran has settled business after forty

516
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Speaker 5: five years of their nonsense. It's done. We're disengaging. I

517
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Speaker 5: think that is a winning message, if he's able to

518
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Speaker 5: sell that message. Yeah, so yeah, come on, so here,

519
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Speaker 5: here we got. This is the Board of Peace, by

520
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Speaker 5: the way, This is the executive board, which is focused

521
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Speaker 5: on diplomacy and investment. This is Donald Trump, Marco Rubio,

522
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Speaker 5: Jared Kushner, Steve Witcock, Tony Blair, Ajai Banga from the

523
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Speaker 5: World Bank, World Bank President, Mark Rowan, CEO of Apollo

524
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Speaker 5: Global Management.

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Speaker 4: Robert Gabriel, all this stuff, all right. So here's the

526
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Speaker 4: countries US, Israel, Saudi, United Arab Emirates, cutter Bafrain, Wait, Morocco, Egypt, Jordan, Argentina, Hungary, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Pakistan, Indonesia.

527
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Speaker 4: And there's from some others Albanian, Armenia, iserbai Jean, Bulgaria, Cambodia,

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Speaker 4: El Salvador, Kosovo, Mongolia, Paraguay, Turkey.

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Speaker 6: So excuse me.

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Speaker 4: When you look at that list and then you realize

531
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Speaker 4: the region that we're fighting in the Board of Peace

532
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 4: is all of a sudden assumed a much larger consequence,

533
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Speaker 4: which I think is fascinating. You sort of see maybe

534
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 4: President Trump was lining up the political the diplomatic backing

535
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Speaker 4: to finally sort of excommunicate this this evil from the region.

536
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Speaker 4: And by the way, whether you're for or against this

537
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Speaker 4: strike is irrelevant to the truth that Iran is an

538
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Speaker 4: evil regime, at least the the Ayahtola and the regime

539
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 4: that runs around. We're not saying that about the people.

540
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Speaker 4: But you do see that this Board of Peace could

541
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Speaker 4: have assume a larger consequence given the situation. Hey, Mikey, welcome.

542
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Speaker 4: Mikey just drove in. Wanted to join in.

543
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Speaker 9: How's it going, Uh, yeah, yeah, I mean I was

544
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Speaker 9: watching the stream. I think you guys are doing a

545
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Speaker 9: great job. But I agree with you Andrew that I

546
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Speaker 9: do take a stance against regime change. But at the

547
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Speaker 9: same time, I don't feel I think we learned our

548
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Speaker 9: lesson with the Venezuela thing, and also the twelve day war,

549
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 9: which is just that initial reports aren't always accurate. And

550
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Speaker 9: this isn't the first time we've even heard claims that

551
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 9: Comeni is dead right, and so anything from Comeny is

552
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 9: dead to Republicans are going to lose the Senate because

553
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 9: of this, all of that is kind of all over

554
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Speaker 9: the place, and I think we need.

555
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Speaker 6: To wait a little bit.

556
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Speaker 9: However, I will just add time and again I bet

557
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 9: against the president when it comes to foreign entanglements like this,

558
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 9: and time and again I've been proven wrong. I even

559
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Speaker 9: remember with Venezuela, I was texting, you know, Josh and

560
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 9: a few other people, is like, this is blah blah blah,

561
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 9: blah blah. And then in the coming days I was like, Wow,

562
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 9: that was a crazy operation that we ran. And so

563
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Speaker 9: I think this is something that we're going to see

564
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Speaker 9: with Iran, but also with Charlie specifically. I mean he

565
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Speaker 9: saw young people and I can relate to this, which

566
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Speaker 9: is that young people have a different stance when it

567
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Speaker 9: comes to foreign policy. And it's not that we, you know,

568
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Speaker 9: don't want to be involved in any foreign issue. It's

569
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Speaker 9: just that we kind of have a little bit of

570
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Speaker 9: a fatigue with it.

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Speaker 5: I mean from the time I was.

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Speaker 9: Born, so, believe it or not, I was born in

573
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Speaker 9: two thousand and one, pretty crazy. But from the time

574
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Speaker 9: I was born nine to eleven to today, there has

575
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Speaker 9: literally been a conflict in the Middle East. And also,

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Speaker 9: I mean when you take it into account, like there's

577
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Speaker 9: been a conflict regarding Israel from the time I was

578
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Speaker 9: born to today. And so as a young person, you're seeing,

579
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Speaker 9: you know, this increase and you're a bil he to

580
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Speaker 9: probably never be able to own a home, never be

581
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Speaker 9: able to afford a family. You know, the dating markets shrinking,

582
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,359
Speaker 9: the average home purchase is forty years of age, and

583
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 9: everything is like kind of betting against young people. And

584
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Speaker 9: so when they see something like this, their initial reaction

585
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Speaker 9: is why do I care about that?

586
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Speaker 3: Right?

587
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Speaker 5: Why do I want to do that? Why do I

588
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:19,839
Speaker 5: want to be in But to.

589
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Speaker 4: Your point, you've bet against President Trump. We've bet against

590
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Speaker 4: President Trump. I remember with Charlie feeling a lot of

591
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 4: consternation behind the scenes, wondering what the heck was going on,

592
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Speaker 4: only to be proven wrong again and again. Now none

593
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Speaker 4: of that is to say that this is politically popular,

594
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Speaker 4: So that's a whole other analysis. But I do believe

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Speaker 4: that President Trump and I've been convinced that he has

596
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Speaker 4: our best interest at heart, whether or not it's always

597
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Speaker 4: the political winner that we want it to be. We

598
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Speaker 4: have Jack Posobic joining us. Now, Jack, what do you

599
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Speaker 4: make of this?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 10: Lah?

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Speaker 11: So yeah, I've been up, you know, running on real

603
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Speaker 11: Marcus voice doing some work there from about eight in

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Speaker 11: the morning. Woke up or least all the news like

605
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Speaker 11: everyone one else. Look, you know, over human events. We've

606
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Speaker 11: been reporting all week that it looked as though these

607
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 11: strikes were imminent. We saw all the indications and warnings,

608
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Speaker 11: the fifth leet pulling out of bah Rain.

609
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Speaker 1: They knew Bahrain was going to be.

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Speaker 11: One of the earliest targets in any retaliatory strikes from Iran.

611
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Speaker 11: And indeed, just in the last couple of minutes we're

612
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Speaker 11: hearing that Iran's response actually was able to take out

613
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Speaker 11: it looks like one of their Kamakazi drones, these Shahad

614
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Speaker 11: one thirty six drones, was able to take out a

615
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Speaker 11: radar installation direct hit on a radar installation on the

616
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Speaker 11: Bahrain Naval base. There So again real questions about Iran's

617
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Speaker 11: ability to penetrate US electronic defenses air defenses ET cetera.

618
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Speaker 11: But so we saw the ships pulling out as a

619
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Speaker 11: huge indication of that.

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Speaker 1: You know, you know, obviously the United States.

621
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Speaker 11: Navy reflecting all the way back to the lessons of

622
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Speaker 11: Pearl Harbor and knowing that when you're getting into these

623
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Speaker 11: hostilities obviously different situation, but yeah, the vulnerability of ships

624
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Speaker 11: at ort. Then you know, we just saw the sheer

625
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Speaker 11: amount of heial being moved over to the the least.

626
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Speaker 11: And the indications we were also getting out of the

627
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Speaker 11: White House was that it looks like now it looks

628
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 11: like things were about to pop off. So we were

629
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Speaker 11: putting up strike packages on things that we could see

630
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Speaker 11: the United States too, whether or not it's going to

631
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Speaker 11: be infrastructure, regime infrastructure, whether it's going to be military

632
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Speaker 11: only targets, whether or not we're going to target economic infrastructure,

633
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Speaker 11: oil pipelines, oil refineries, that type of thing hit Iran

634
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 11: where it hurts in the wallet, whether or not the

635
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Speaker 11: strike packages will include that. What we've seen so far

636
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Speaker 11: is it seems the United States as targeting IRGC facilities,

637
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Speaker 11: specifically those at Chabahar band our Boss, these naval naval facilities.

638
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Speaker 11: Of course, because everyone knows that Iran's most dangerous course

639
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Speaker 11: of action is their ability to either mine or blockade

640
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Speaker 11: the strait of Horror Moves. And in fact they only

641
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 11: need to appear to mine the straight of Horror Moves

642
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 11: to be able to shut down really the entire global

643
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 11: hooties right, well, similar to the Hooties right, So the

644
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Speaker 11: straight of horn Moves is the Gulf. The Hothis were

645
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 11: on the other side of the Arabian Peninsula there in

646
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Speaker 11: the Red Sea and so.

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00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 1: Iran with their very tight order.

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Speaker 11: If you look at that choke point at the mouth

649
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Speaker 11: of the Gulf of the Persian Gulf, they have the

650
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Speaker 11: ability just to just completely shut that down with mind.

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Speaker 11: So yes, very similar to what the Houthis were doing

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Speaker 11: in their choke point the Strait of Babelmandeb at the mouth.

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Speaker 1: Of the Red Sea.

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Speaker 11: So this real ability to constrain global shipping and global

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Speaker 11: oil markets.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad, glad I filled up yesterday.

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Speaker 11: You know what I mean, you know, thinking that something

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Speaker 11: like this was going to be coming. But what I'm

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Speaker 11: also hearing out of the White House is that look

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Speaker 11: expects strikes to be days, not hours. This is not

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Speaker 11: going to be a one and done thing like Operation

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Speaker 11: Midnight Hammer. President Trump, of course, in his overnight addressed

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Speaker 11: to the nation. Of course, we're going to see whether

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Speaker 11: or not he has another adjusted to the nation, but

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Speaker 11: he said that this is about the regime. This is

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Speaker 11: about conducting an air campaign hurting the regime, and he

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Speaker 11: wants the peep to rise up and have the people

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Speaker 11: flood the streets as we saw weeks ago, but really

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Speaker 11: wants them to try to take over the regime. He's

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Speaker 11: called for this. And so what we're going to see,

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Speaker 11: I think here is sal We're gonna see salvos of

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Speaker 11: alternating attack, pause and assess, attack, pause and assess. So

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Speaker 11: wait to see the battle damage assessment, see what has

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Speaker 11: been hit, what the capabilities are of those strikes, what

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Speaker 11: the regime does, whether or not they want to sue

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Speaker 11: for peace, whether or not you see a regime crack,

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Speaker 11: and they want to come to a deal on the

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Speaker 11: nuclear programs. President Trump has talked about, or perhaps an

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Speaker 11: actual regime collapse, and in which case, obviously something that

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Speaker 11: Charlie and you know we're here on the Charlie Kirk stream,

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Speaker 11: So of course we all remember what Charlie said about

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Speaker 11: those regime change scenarios back in juney really don't know

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Speaker 11: what is going to come after. And I'm sure you

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Speaker 11: know have all the clips and it's all been going

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Speaker 11: viral right now, and people are pulling up the old

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Speaker 11: tweets of Charlie where he spoke about this and warned

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Speaker 11: about the dangers inherent and risks inherent in a regime

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Speaker 11: chain scenario. That being said, you know, as we look forward,

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Speaker 11: I don't think this is going to be over anytime soon,

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Speaker 11: and of course we want to see what Iran does

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Speaker 11: in response. We know Iran has also looks like they've

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Speaker 11: conducted strikes not only on US basis like Bahrain, as

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Speaker 11: I pointed out, but also in jebil Ali. That's the

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Speaker 11: port of Dubai, and it looks as though that port

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Speaker 11: one of the major ports on the Sunni Arab side

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Speaker 11: of the golf that's the whole golf split the Shia, Iranians,

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Speaker 11: the Persians versus the Sunni Arab. So jebil Ali, that

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Speaker 11: huge port there in Dubai looks like they did target it.

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Speaker 11: There was a strike, an interception of that strike, so

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Speaker 11: it didn't it didn't land all the way, but it

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Speaker 11: does look like some of the debris and the videos

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Speaker 11: going around now. It looks like it's been confirmed have

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Speaker 11: hit one of the four star hotels in Dubai.

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Speaker 1: Of course Dubai. This the what do they call it?

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Speaker 11: The Pearl of the golf and so real questions as

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Speaker 11: to the economic fallout from all of this as it

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Speaker 11: remains to be seen. But and Trump out there stalwart

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Speaker 11: and saying that he wants to see this through. But again,

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Speaker 11: I from what we're seeing so far, air naval combat powers,

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Speaker 11: no boots on the ground. But wouldn't surprise me if

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Speaker 11: we see some commando raids, IDF potentially even US special Forces,

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Speaker 11: we don't know just yet, similar to the Mador raid. Obviously,

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Speaker 11: we saw the Medal of Honor recipient there at the

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Speaker 11: State of the Union with Erica a couple of days ago.

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Speaker 1: So whether or not US special forces are involved, all

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Speaker 1: of that will come out in the coming days and weeks.

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Speaker 5: All right, We got a donation message from Sandra, thank

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Speaker 5: you very much, and she says, I joined late. Can

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Speaker 5: you give us a quick recap of what happened? Well, fortunately,

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Speaker 5: recap go yeah, well he basically did. Even quicker recap

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Speaker 5: of course is last night. I think it was about

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Speaker 5: midnight Phoenix time. So it's interesting it was its broad

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Speaker 5: daylight in Iran when this happened. We were used to

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Speaker 5: pass strikes have been convenient for stream timing because it's

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Speaker 5: happened in the evening, in the afternoon, he because it's

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Speaker 5: nighttime over there. But they launched strikes on Iran in

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Speaker 5: broad daylight. It was already Saturday, in the middle of

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Speaker 5: the day there, and that's basically where we're at. We're

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Speaker 5: waiting to see what the ramifications of those strikes are.

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Speaker 5: Maybe we killed the Supreme Leader, maybe we didn't. We

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Speaker 5: are possibly duve downe assassination strikes on several other leaders.

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Speaker 5: In response, Iran has shot missiles all across the Middle East.

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Speaker 5: Some of them appear to have caused damage, but we

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Speaker 5: don't know what casualties, if any, there are, and we

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Speaker 5: are waiting to see what happens next. Conflicts like this

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Speaker 5: take days or weeks. They don't happen in hours.

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Speaker 11: Can I just add as like as like an umbrella statement.

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Speaker 11: Just there's so many claims that you're going to see

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Speaker 11: online right now. Then in just breaking minutes, people are

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Speaker 11: going to say that the Supreme Leader is dead, and

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Speaker 11: I'm sure other people are going to say the bb

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Speaker 11: net Yahoo is dead and this leader has been killed

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Speaker 11: and that leader has been killed. Just just take everything

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Speaker 11: with the grain of salt. Understand, we are in the

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Speaker 11: fog of war. Truth is the first casualty in war.

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Speaker 11: So stay frosty when it comes to all of this

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Speaker 11: until any any of these claims, until things are actually confirmed,

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Speaker 11: you just take everything at face value.

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Speaker 6: I totally agree.

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Speaker 4: We actually have John Solomon, who's calling in, John, Welcome

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Speaker 4: to the stream. You've got Blake, Mikey, Jack myself. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: please give us just you know, we got a you know,

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Speaker 4: an email in or I guess it was a comment

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Speaker 4: asking for a recap. Give us your assessment of what

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Speaker 4: this strike is about. What the goals are the military mission,

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Speaker 4: what is the win? What is the administration hoping to

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Speaker 4: achieve here?

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I think the President's pretty clear that the objective

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Speaker 12: of this goal is to to basically knock down Iran's

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Speaker 12: defenses in leadership to a point where the Iranian people

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Speaker 12: can overthrow them and take over the government without Americans

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Speaker 12: having to put boots on the ground, without having to

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Speaker 12: have a significant an invasion like we did with Iraq

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Speaker 12: or other regime change moments.

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Speaker 3: Afghanistan.

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Speaker 12: So it is a ear superiority mission that is designed

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Speaker 12: to degrade the leadership, the military capabilities, and eventually open

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Speaker 12: the door for the Iranian people themselves to overthrow the government.

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Speaker 12: I'm sure the CIA has been working on an overthrow

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Speaker 12: plan for some time with groups like the MK or

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Speaker 12: the National Council for Resistance of Iran. I wouldn't be

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Speaker 12: surprised if at some point you see some of the

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Speaker 12: Kurdis's special forces come in from the west. The West

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Speaker 12: is pretty fortified now, but at time that will be degraded,

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Speaker 12: and the goal is for us to just soften it

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Speaker 12: up enough that the Iranian people can go in make

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Speaker 12: their own regime change, make their own democratically elected government,

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Speaker 12: and get over this forty seven year era of tyranny. Now,

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Speaker 12: that's going to take time, particularly when you're doing aerial only.

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Speaker 12: Last time, it took about twelve days to just simply

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Speaker 12: soften up the air defenses so we can run some

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Speaker 12: stealth bombers through and take out the nuclear facilities. Is

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Speaker 12: to be probably a more complex project. Although Iran was

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Speaker 12: pretty degraded, it's also low on resources, low on money,

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Speaker 12: low on oil, low on energy, low on food, so

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Speaker 12: it may crack sooner, or the Mullas may at some point,

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Speaker 12: though it's not been their tendency say we've had enough,

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Speaker 12: we'll tap out. And so I think those are two

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Speaker 12: options that the US Intelligence Committee will be looking.

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Speaker 3: Is there a moment where the Iranians.

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Speaker 12: Tap out because China, Russia, Venezuela, Cuba can't help them?

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Speaker 12: And if not, I think we just keep degrading to

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Speaker 12: the point of where on a ground invasion by Iranians

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Speaker 12: leads to leadership change.

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Speaker 3: That's the goalie that present is very clear.

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Speaker 4: John, So, Yeah, this does seem to be a regime

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Speaker 4: change operation. I don't think there's any way around it.

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Speaker 4: Was Have you heard any rumors or reporting that, I mean,

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Speaker 4: we saw jd Vance basically allude to the fact earlier

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Speaker 4: this last week that they were developing there was indication

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Speaker 4: that they were developing nuclear capabilities again that that would

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Speaker 4: become a Is there any indication from you, like a

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Speaker 4: dirty bomb or some other piece of intel that maybe

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Speaker 4: hasn't been made public yet that could have increased the

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Speaker 4: urgency to strike.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 12: I think there's a couple of things that we do

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Speaker 12: know for sure. We do know from and I have

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Speaker 12: confirmed this with my own resources, that Iran was pressing

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Speaker 12: China for some hypersonic missiles to get them shipped in

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Speaker 12: the next few weeks so that they would have the

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Speaker 12: ability to take out.

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Speaker 3: Our ship fleet.

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Speaker 12: Those hypersonics are so fast they can evade even American

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Speaker 12: defenses sometimes, and that's something that China's been very good at.

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Speaker 12: Those conversations, which US intelligence intercepted and monitored, was a

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Speaker 12: primary reason. You want to protect your fleet. You got

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Speaker 12: a lot of big assets in the water there, and

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Speaker 12: you don't want a hypersonic to create a loss of

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Speaker 12: life or a loss of capability for the United States.

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Speaker 12: So that was the primary reason. The second reason is

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Speaker 12: there is some indication they're rebuilding. They're trying to get

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Speaker 12: to some of the uranium that's buried beneath the rubble

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Speaker 12: that we created last summer. That could lead to a

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Speaker 12: dirty bomb, though quite frankly, it'd be easier for them

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Speaker 12: to create a dirty bomb by just getting some medical

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Speaker 12: waste in Europe somewhere than trying to extract it from

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Speaker 12: the ground. But we do see some early signs that

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Speaker 12: Iran was trying to reconstitute some elements of the uranium

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Speaker 12: enrichment and weaponization program. But they're pretty far back. They've

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Speaker 12: lost a lot of capability from those strikes last summer.

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Speaker 12: But both options are there. The third option to keep

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Speaker 12: an eye on is just sleeper sales anywhere in the world.

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Speaker 12: Here in America, there's always been a concern of hesbela

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Speaker 12: on our own soil. Europe, always a clear evidence that

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Speaker 12: hesbel has been on our soil. Remember, the Iranians just

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Speaker 12: set someone and was working on a plot to kill

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Speaker 12: Trump in twenty twenty four on our US soil. They

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Speaker 12: previously tried to kill the Saudi Arabian.

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Speaker 3: Ambassador at Washington, DC restaurant.

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Speaker 12: So non traditional warfare is probably a third option of

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Speaker 12: what they're looking at.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so that's what's interesting about this whole thing, John,

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Speaker 4: And we're about to be taken by Real America's voice

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Speaker 4: in about three minutes.

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Speaker 6: What your schedule's like, I can.

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Speaker 3: Stand up for by ten minutes, Yeah, I gotta go

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Speaker 3: back in.

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Speaker 4: Yeah minutes, two minutes till our rav join. But here

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Speaker 4: here's my sort of psychological You know, I have no

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Speaker 4: other proof other than I've watched the president closely for

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Speaker 4: a decade here, But you know, the attempted assassinations on

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Speaker 4: his life which have been confirmed. There are potential sleeper

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Speaker 4: sales cells in the United States. He's also, I think,

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Speaker 4: convinced that Iran has tried to meddle in the elections.

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Speaker 4: If you if you combine these things with is the

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Speaker 4: open threats that Iran has made throughout the years. If

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Speaker 4: you combine these things with you know the fact that

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Speaker 4: they have killed Americans, that they are a state sponsor

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Speaker 4: of terror. He's shown throughout the years, whether it's the

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Speaker 4: taking out Solomony, the fourd Oh strikes, He's shown an

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Speaker 4: increased willingness to strike Iran. It seems to be where

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Speaker 4: he believes there is a important you know, I would

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Speaker 4: say mandate for the American people. It's especially that in

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Speaker 4: that country. Thirty seconds, John.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you're right. I think the enough's enough.

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Speaker 12: He said, I'd give you a chance, give you a chance,

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Speaker 12: give you a chance to negotiate at some point. That's serious.

869
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Speaker 12: We're just finishing this. Forty seven years a menace society.

870
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Speaker 12: Iran has been all across the Western world, even on

871
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 12: our own soil. I think Donald Trump just reached the

872
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 12: fill up point. We're done, and he's going to make

873
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 12: the capability for the Iranian people to be able to

874
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:25,839
Speaker 12: overthrow their government if they so choose.

875
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Speaker 3: That's that's where he's at. I think that's it's a

876
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 3: pretty clear read.

877
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, So this is seven hours ago in truth social

878
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 4: President Trump posted Iran tried to interfere in the twenty

879
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:38,320
Speaker 4: twenty four elections to stop Trump and now faces renewed

880
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 4: war with United States. And that's a that's a headline

881
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:44,799
Speaker 4: from just the news, Just the news, John Solomon, So

882
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:51,360
Speaker 4: he retreat that. So for our rav audience, John and

883
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 4: Jack go to first to John and then to Jack.

884
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 4: Just again, let's recap where we're at right now. John,

885
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 4: you can firm just a minute ago with us this

886
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 4: it appears to be a regime change military operation in Iran.

887
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:07,240
Speaker 6: Please your thoughts.

888
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 12: Yeah, and again, the idea is that we're not going

889
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:12,720
Speaker 12: to change the regime. We're going to make it possible

890
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 12: for the Iranian people if they so choose to do that.

891
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 12: It's not our goal to go in and get the

892
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 12: Mulls out, but we will soften up the ground, we

893
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 12: will soften up the military capabilities. We will inflict significant

894
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 12: damage until the Iranian government, the Iranian forces can't attack

895
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 12: its own people strong enough, and that gives a chance

896
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Speaker 12: for the Iranian people to decide if they want to

897
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 12: on their own throughout the malls. That is the Objective's

898
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:37,840
Speaker 12: clearly what the President said. Let us do this and

899
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,399
Speaker 12: then when the bomb stop, go overthrow your government, take

900
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:43,319
Speaker 12: control of your government. Your freedom is at hand. That's

901
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:45,840
Speaker 12: what he said in the early hours of the morning.

902
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 12: So that's what this is. We are creating the capability

903
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 12: for the Iranian people to overthrow the government. We won't

904
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 12: overthrow the government ourselves. We won't go in and get

905
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 12: sodom like we did in two thousand and two. Will

906
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:56,760
Speaker 12: throw out the Taliban.

907
00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, John, You know there's conflicting reports that about the

908
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 4: Iatola himself being killed in these strikes. The way I

909
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 4: understand it is that the US is looking at infrastructure,

910
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 4: military sites, naval sites, radar defense missile sites. Israel is

911
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 4: going after the head of the snake operations, going for

912
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Speaker 4: top officials. Maybe that I told himself. Do we have

913
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 4: any confirmation?

914
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 6: Do we know?

915
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 4: Are you seeing indications early indications one way or the other?

916
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 3: We do not.

917
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 12: US intelligence does not have confirmation one way or the other.

918
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 12: There are some reports the US have received that some

919
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Speaker 12: top Republican Guard commanders were killed at these military sites,

920
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:41,240
Speaker 12: possibly a defense official.

921
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 3: No word yet oncome Any, though.

922
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Speaker 12: It is clear that Israel picked come anyse many known

923
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 12: locations during the strike, So Israel clearly their weapons were

924
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 12: clearly targeted at the Supreme leader.

925
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Speaker 3: Whether they hit him or not, I don't know.

926
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Speaker 12: There was a very important event that occurred on Monday,

927
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Speaker 12: didn't get a lot of news.

928
00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:00,240
Speaker 3: We covered it, but the resistance.

929
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 12: Group MYK, which is one of the possible successor governments here,

930
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:06,439
Speaker 12: they launched an attack on Kammane's palace and they got

931
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:10,760
Speaker 12: to inflict substantial damage and that was very eye opening

932
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 12: to the US government, US intelligence because Iranian forces weren't

933
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:17,879
Speaker 12: able to protect that facility, and it was pretty clear

934
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 12: that Kamane must not have been there right, that they

935
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 12: had a lower fossil level, So that gave us some

936
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 12: inclination that committee had left one of his known refugees

937
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:27,360
Speaker 12: and had moved somewhere else in the country, much like

938
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Speaker 12: he did before the nuclear strikes in the Twelve Day

939
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 12: War last summer.

940
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Speaker 3: But the second part of.

941
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Speaker 12: That was they realized that Iranian forces are depleted, that

942
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:40,840
Speaker 12: they couldn't even resist a ragtag team of resistance fighters

943
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 12: who aren't nearly as well armed as the IRGC.

944
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 3: And it was a sign that the world.

945
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:47,839
Speaker 12: Is caving in on the mullas that their military capabilities

946
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 12: are diminishing.

947
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 3: And I think that.

948
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 12: Just added to the paradigm of intelligence that they evaluated

949
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 12: before they launched this morning strikes.

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Speaker 4: John Solomon, just the news. Thank you so much, John,

951
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Speaker 4: We appreciate it.

952
00:51:58,800 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 3: Great to be with you guys.

953
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 4: Absolutely John, great analysis, Jack, your thoughts.

954
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:11,280
Speaker 11: Well, look, John is actually absolutely correct. You know, we're

955
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:14,319
Speaker 11: not going to be sure just yet whether or not

956
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 11: leadership was taken out in terms of the regime leadership

957
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 11: the Ietola. I mean, look, when two aircraft carriers are

958
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:23,240
Speaker 11: sent over like that, when you see that much American

959
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:26,760
Speaker 11: air power, naval power, naval combat power brought to bear

960
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 11: in the Gulf, it doesn't surprise me at all, or

961
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:32,399
Speaker 11: wouldn't surprise me at all if the IRGC moved him

962
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:35,840
Speaker 11: to a hardened sight one of the runs extensive underground

963
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:38,840
Speaker 11: bunker systems. And you know, so it really becomes that

964
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 11: spy versus spy kind of question of whether or not

965
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:44,839
Speaker 11: they knew where he was when they went to take

966
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:45,879
Speaker 11: him out, whether or.

967
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 1: Not he was using decoys, all this sorts of things.

968
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 11: So you know, really just holding holding the holding our

969
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 11: fire when it comes to that, keeping our powder dry.

970
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 1: We're staying frosty.

971
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 11: But at the same time we need to understand, I

972
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 11: think and American people want to want to hear what

973
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 11: are the goals here, what's happened on on the ground,

974
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 11: what is the status of the regime and are we

975
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:11,720
Speaker 11: seeing it have the effect?

976
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 1: Are protesters flooding the streets? Are they coming out again?

977
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:17,279
Speaker 11: But you know, big questions for the protesters of course,

978
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 11: because they faced severe crackdowns when they came out a

979
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:25,319
Speaker 11: couple of weeks ago from the IRGC, from members of

980
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 11: the regime. And so that's going to be this real

981
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 11: scenario of you know, are we going to get another

982
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:34,400
Speaker 11: are we going to get a nineteen seventy nine in reverse?

983
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:37,840
Speaker 11: Or are we going to get a Tienemen square again?

984
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 11: These you know, it's risky. It is always risky to

985
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 11: try to attempt regime change at all, let alone with

986
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:46,239
Speaker 11: the air power alone. It's something that where the track

987
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 11: record is mixed. It's a very mixed track record of

988
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 11: these things. There's certainly no confirmation. And as Charlie himself

989
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 11: always said that you take out the Ayatola, you have

990
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 11: no idea what is going to come next. You could

991
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 11: have these resistance groups launch, as John was saying there,

992
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 11: you know there are some who have.

993
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:06,320
Speaker 1: Militias as well.

994
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 11: You could see a civil war scenario breakout and a

995
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 11: total regime collapse that turns into a quagmire.

996
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 1: And then of course for US forces in the region.

997
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 11: Look, you know, that's that's why they pulled out of Bahrain,

998
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:19,879
Speaker 11: That's why they pulled out of other areas, because they

999
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:24,760
Speaker 11: know Iran has many ways to take this worldwide, and certainly,

1000
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:27,319
Speaker 11: by the way, certainly, if the regime does feel that

1001
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 11: they are in survival mode, and there's no question in

1002
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 11: my mind that it seems like Israel and you heard

1003
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 11: from the President are directly targeting the regime. If they

1004
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 11: go into full survival mode, they are going to pull

1005
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:40,400
Speaker 11: out the stops. Anything they can do, whether you're talking

1006
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 11: sleeper cells within the United States, within Europe, whether you're

1007
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:45,840
Speaker 11: talking straight to Horne Moves, everything is going to be

1008
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:46,360
Speaker 11: on the table.

1009
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:49,839
Speaker 9: Jack, What the ripple effect of this, What does this

1010
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:52,880
Speaker 9: mean for countries like China, who got like five percent

1011
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 9: of their oil from Venezuela. They get a majority of

1012
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 9: their oil from I think it's like twenty percent of

1013
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 9: their oil from Iran. What is it this mean for

1014
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 9: the CCP, What does this mean for other countries that

1015
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 9: are directly involved with the Iranian regime?

1016
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 11: Well, I mean in the near term, you know, it's

1017
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 11: it's hard to say, right, It all sort of depends

1018
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 11: on how this shakes out. Clearly, if this goes on

1019
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:14,759
Speaker 11: for several days, you're going to see an oil shock,

1020
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:17,719
Speaker 11: probably Monday, you're going to see that with an oil

1021
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 11: spike if there is. And keep in mind, with that

1022
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:22,880
Speaker 11: straight to horror moves, the IRGC doesn't even need to

1023
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 11: actually mine it. They could have a couple of freighters

1024
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 11: go out there and just drop empty barrels in the water,

1025
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 11: but that if that's enough to look like mines, there's

1026
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 11: nobody that's going to be sending these these massive oil

1027
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 11: tankers that are filled with you know, one hundred million

1028
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:40,239
Speaker 11: dollars worth of their supply to go through there. They're

1029
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:42,400
Speaker 11: not going to take that chance if they think Iran

1030
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 11: has actually put mines in the water, whether the real

1031
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 11: minds or not, there's of course, a joke in the

1032
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:49,959
Speaker 11: there's a joke in the United States Navy that every

1033
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:52,319
Speaker 11: ship can be a mind sweeper once. So you know,

1034
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 11: it depends to see who's going to go first, or

1035
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:55,880
Speaker 11: you send some barge or some kind of drone thing

1036
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 11: up there. But that being said, that's going to lead

1037
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 11: to those oil shocks if there is a you know,

1038
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 11: a regime change scenario like take Venezuela for example, where

1039
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:09,440
Speaker 11: the United States was able to find a more reliable

1040
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 11: partner after Maduro one who is willing to send oil

1041
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:16,320
Speaker 11: to the United States as well as continue those shipments

1042
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:19,360
Speaker 11: to China, but then under US auspices, that could be

1043
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 11: another scenario that plays out. However, I would caution against

1044
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:26,360
Speaker 11: that because the Iranian regime is not it's not the

1045
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:28,840
Speaker 11: same as the as the Venezuelan regime. It's a regime

1046
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 11: where you have the Ayatola on the religious side, you

1047
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:34,400
Speaker 11: have Mola's on the religious side, but then you also

1048
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 11: have it's very split, it's very mixed in terms of

1049
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 11: its government. You also have the IRGC, you have the

1050
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 11: civilian government. So again, any one of those is going

1051
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:46,319
Speaker 11: to play a role in any regime collapse that comes out.

1052
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 11: Also real questions as to whether or not Russia gets

1053
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 11: involved here, although my assessment would be that because Russia

1054
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 11: is so bogged down in Ukraine right now. Also, we

1055
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 11: didn't see Russia get involved when Asad looked like he

1056
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:01,399
Speaker 11: was on his life legs up there in Syria about

1057
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 11: a year ago. I would be very surprised if Russia

1058
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:05,520
Speaker 11: gets involved here.

1059
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 1: I wouldn't rule it out, but I.

1060
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:10,279
Speaker 11: Would assess that seeing Russian involvement, the likelihood at this

1061
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 11: point is low.

1062
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 4: So just to as a recap here, Iran's Defense Minister

1063
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 4: Amir Naza Zadai and Revolutionary Guard commander Mohammed Pakpor reportedly

1064
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 4: have been killed in Israeli strikes. Again, we don't know

1065
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 4: about the ietol himself, but that's something. UKPM kir Starmer

1066
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:36,440
Speaker 4: has said that their forces are active and British planes

1067
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 4: are in the sky today as part of the Coordinated

1068
00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 4: Regional Defense Operation. And as you said, Jack, Iran has

1069
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 4: moved to close the strait of her Moose, with ships

1070
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 4: reportedly receiving vhs a VHF transmission from Iran's Revolutionary Guard

1071
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:54,040
Speaker 4: warning no ship is allowed to pass the straight of

1072
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 4: horm Moose. Let's go ahead, and just I think for

1073
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 4: the sake of Charlie's voice getting in here, because everybody's

1074
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 4: invoking what Charlie had said, and I think that can

1075
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 4: be a little frustrating when you're on this side of it,

1076
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 4: and Jack and Mikey Blake, you can all attest because

1077
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:13,920
Speaker 4: we were involved behind the scenes with Charlie, unerstood the

1078
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 4: way he was strategically thinking about things. Some of the

1079
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:20,920
Speaker 4: presentations of his voice on social media are one sided.

1080
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 4: Let's just put it that way. Let's go to thirty eight.

1081
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 4: This is Charlie explaining Trump's unpredictability as the point two

1082
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 4: thirty eight.

1083
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 2: This is why how President Trump is handling it is perfect.

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Speaker 2: You do not know what President Trump is going to do,

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Speaker 2: and let me kind of queue you in on something.

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00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 2: The unpredictability is the point. The fact that I don't know,

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Speaker 2: and you don't know, and Iran doesn't know is the

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00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 2: greatest power he could possibly.

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Speaker 1: Exercise over these maniacs.

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Speaker 2: The fact that the US military could blow Toronto smithereens and

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Speaker 2: he's saying, get out of Toron now.

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Speaker 8: Whoof that's power?

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00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 2: And President Trump means it when he says it. And

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00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 2: President Donald Trump is balancing all of these things, and

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00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 2: he and only he is positioned to be able to

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Speaker 2: solve this problem. He has earned our trust and we

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Speaker 2: should continue to give it to him.

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Speaker 5: But we have he weighed in on around many times

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Speaker 5: because we've had many Iran things, and so as we've discussed,

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Speaker 5: one of the struggles with this conflict is I think

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00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:35,959
Speaker 5: it's gonna catch it. It catches some people off guard

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Speaker 5: that that's happening at all, if they're not big news

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00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 5: followers and they haven't fully sold yet. Why this is necessary,

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Speaker 5: why this is essential, Why this is for America's core interests.

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Speaker 5: I think they still can and if it's a big success,

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Speaker 5: it will be easier. But they have to make that case.

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Speaker 5: And Charlie commented on that, let's play clip two fifty.

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Speaker 2: By no means a military expert. But here's my rule

1109
00:59:57,680 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 2: when it comes on military things is if you, as

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00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 2: a our con citizen can't understand it, then they have

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01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 2: not done a good enough job explaining it, because that

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Speaker 2: stuff's actually not as complicated. Would you agree, Blake, like, oh,

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Speaker 2: you know this is just for military minds. Actually, now

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01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:13,240
Speaker 2: you're a US citizen, you deserve a right to understand it.

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01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:14,920
Speaker 2: You're a stakeholder. This is your government.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Well, and we started off the show before we joined

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Speaker 4: RAV and it's worth reiterating here for the real America's

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Speaker 4: Voice audience. By the way, we have Alex Marlow joining

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Speaker 4: us in just a moment, a few other guests lined

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Speaker 4: up throughout the hour. But what we will say is

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Speaker 4: my blunt assessment is that this war was not sold

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Speaker 4: sufficiently to the US public. I have no problem saying that.

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Speaker 4: It's I think that's just that's our conclusion. Okay, But

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Speaker 4: on this all this morning, I was making phone calls,

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Speaker 4: I was reaching out to people. There is legitimate concern

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Speaker 4: within certain circles of DC that John Solomon confirmed this,

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Speaker 4: that maybe it was a dirty bomb, maybe they were

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Speaker 4: reaching out to the CCP for hypersonic missiles, but there

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Speaker 4: was an urgent move. I think Iran knew that the

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01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:10,480
Speaker 4: time was running out. And if we find that out

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Speaker 4: on the back end and they do use that to

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Speaker 4: sell this and the urgency of this strike, I do

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01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:18,520
Speaker 4: think that would be helpful, and they should make that

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Speaker 4: point if they can confirm it. I do think there's

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Speaker 4: reticence in making those points ahead of time because of

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Speaker 4: what happened with the weapons of mass destruction to backle

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01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:30,360
Speaker 4: in Iraq, where we were sold a war based on

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Speaker 4: the fact that you know, Saddam Hussein was developing weapons

1140
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Speaker 4: of mass destruction. We find out that wasn't true, and

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Speaker 4: then it became a larger scandal because of that. So

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Speaker 4: I don't think they want to sell the war per

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01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:44,280
Speaker 4: se on you know, Iran having a dirty bomb or

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01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:48,040
Speaker 4: getting hypersonic missiles from China. What they want to do

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01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:50,960
Speaker 4: is say they are not allowed. The Irani regime is

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Speaker 4: not allowed to have nuclear capabilities. They want to develop

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Speaker 4: these things. We can't let them. It's time for the

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Speaker 4: people of Iran to rise up. I think those are

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01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:03,000
Speaker 4: the two safest points of action. I think we can

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01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:06,160
Speaker 4: also say is that President Trump was sick of getting

1151
01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:11,480
Speaker 4: messed with on the negotiating table. His patients wore thin.

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Speaker 4: So everybody holds your calm. I would say, this is

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Speaker 4: why we need to allow the process to play out

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Speaker 4: and not rush to judgment. I will tell you everybody

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Speaker 4: on the Internet that is claiming what Charlie would have

1156
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:29,920
Speaker 4: thought or said, Charlie would not rush to judgment. Charlie

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01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 4: would have been I think instinctively against a regime change war.

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Speaker 6: That is very clear.

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Speaker 4: But he also would have understood the fact that President

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Speaker 4: Trump is stuck between a series of very difficult decisions

1161
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Speaker 4: and that this is why we work so hard to

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01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:47,439
Speaker 4: get him elected, is to make these types of difficult decisions.

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Speaker 4: So that's what I would say, Jack, am I misstating

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Speaker 4: the facts?

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Speaker 1: No, I don't think you're understating it at all.

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Speaker 11: And look, we all know that Charlie gave his gave

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Speaker 11: his all to prevent and a ground invasion of Iran

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Speaker 11: last year, that he's on record for doing this. He

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01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 11: traveled to the White House, went to speak to the

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Speaker 11: President in the Oval Office about this and said, we

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Speaker 11: do not want to see boots on the ground.

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Speaker 1: We don't want to see a ground invasion.

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Speaker 11: Gen Z, who and everybody knows Charlie spent four hours

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Speaker 11: a day going on campus talking to gen Z. That's

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Speaker 11: how he knows exactly what gen Z thinks about this.

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Speaker 11: That gen Z support would totally collapse for the coalition

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Speaker 11: in terms of a ground invasion and pushing for a

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Speaker 11: full on regime change war where it was unilateral from

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Speaker 11: the United States.

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Speaker 1: We don't know exactly.

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Speaker 11: What Charlie would have said in this scenario where you're

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Speaker 11: seeing air, you're seeing navy, but you're not seeing that

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01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:46,800
Speaker 11: boots on the ground piece where President Trump is calling

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Speaker 11: for the Iranian people to be the ones that are

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Speaker 11: the forcing function to push out the regime. We also

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01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:56,840
Speaker 11: know that Charlie was very forceful when he talked about

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Speaker 11: the idea of endless war, prolonged war, forever war, and

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Speaker 11: just the idea in general that anyone can come up

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Speaker 11: here and tell you that you know what's going to

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01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:09,640
Speaker 11: come after the Iotola collapsing. The Iotola is going to leave,

1191
01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:12,040
Speaker 11: and suddenly you know, it's all going to be horseshoes

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01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:14,640
Speaker 11: and rainbows. You could see a regime change or excuse me,

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01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:17,720
Speaker 11: regimed collapse scenario. You could see a quagmire, you could

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Speaker 11: see a civil war. You could see regional actors come in,

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Speaker 11: non state actors. This is the Middle East, after all,

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01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:24,800
Speaker 11: it is rife with terrorist groups. That's kind of the

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Speaker 11: whole idea. So the sense that this is going to

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Speaker 11: lead to some kind of immediate, you know, immediate victory

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Speaker 11: for the Iranian people is actually a much unfortunately for

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Speaker 11: you know, I'm not saying it's a good thing, but

1201
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:41,640
Speaker 11: I'm just saying that given the track record in this region,

1202
01:04:41,960 --> 01:04:45,800
Speaker 11: we should be very, very wary of anyone telling us

1203
01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:48,640
Speaker 11: that everything is going to be perfect in the wake

1204
01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:50,720
Speaker 11: of this. And I think that Charlie understood that and

1205
01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:53,760
Speaker 11: also understood where gen Z was coming from in terms

1206
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:57,080
Speaker 11: of their wariness, because they don't want to see more war.

1207
01:04:57,200 --> 01:04:59,680
Speaker 11: They want to see arrests for Epstein, they want to

1208
01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:02,880
Speaker 11: see importations, they want to see economic relief, they want

1209
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:06,000
Speaker 11: to see a focus on domestic policy. That's particularly where

1210
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:08,880
Speaker 11: gen Z is and Charlie always did his best to

1211
01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:12,360
Speaker 11: be that voice to the administration and to the world

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01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:14,760
Speaker 11: so that folks would be able to understand that scenario.

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Speaker 9: Mikey gen Z, Yeah, yeah, I don't want a black pill,

1214
01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:20,520
Speaker 9: but I'm gonna wait.

1215
01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:22,560
Speaker 6: In a way. I'm gonna have patience.

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Speaker 13: But you said it earlier, which is great.

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Speaker 9: I mean, even people in DC are friends in DC

1218
01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:31,920
Speaker 9: right now, they don't want this to drag on. And

1219
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:35,200
Speaker 9: again back to the twelve day War. We thought that that.

1220
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Speaker 13: Was going to drag on to another endless war, and

1221
01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:38,479
Speaker 13: it ended in twelve days.

1222
01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:41,040
Speaker 6: So the k FABE, the k Fabe.

1223
01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:42,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, and even our friends in DC.

1224
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Speaker 9: I mean, I got this this morning it's success looks

1225
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:51,360
Speaker 9: like limited strikes focused on denying nuclear capability, no ground troops,

1226
01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:55,040
Speaker 9: no invasion, no forever war from this, and then also

1227
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Speaker 9: just a reminder that iron has historically armed terrorists time

1228
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Speaker 9: and again.

1229
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Speaker 6: Numbers on state sponsors, yeah, of course. And so.

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Speaker 9: When it comes to you know, terrorist groups like even

1231
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:10,240
Speaker 9: the hu Thies right that are attacking American ships, what

1232
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:12,920
Speaker 9: if they got their hands on nuclear weapons because of Iran,

1233
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:15,360
Speaker 9: or a dirty bomb because of Iran, or hypersonic missiles

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01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:17,640
Speaker 9: because of Iran. You know that that all kind of

1235
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:20,840
Speaker 9: trickles down. But I mean, as a gen Zer, I

1236
01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:23,360
Speaker 9: don't like a lot of us just don't care, Like

1237
01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:24,640
Speaker 9: we don't care.

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Speaker 13: Why do we want to see that? Why do we

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01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:28,000
Speaker 13: want to be involved in this?

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Speaker 5: It is worth remembering the divide because when you think

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Speaker 5: even this even predates to me, of course, and I'm

1242
01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:39,920
Speaker 5: kind of old that Iran was basically public enemy number

1243
01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:44,080
Speaker 5: one in the nineteen eighties, Well, Yusha was well, but

1244
01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:47,120
Speaker 5: even even Russia didn't do things they Iran literally took

1245
01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:49,680
Speaker 5: American hostages, over one hundred of them for.

1246
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Speaker 6: Over a year.

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Speaker 5: And young people won't understand what it was like that

1248
01:06:57,120 --> 01:06:59,600
Speaker 5: every night on television, the evening news, which was a

1249
01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:02,120
Speaker 5: thing people watched. Then it would come on and they

1250
01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:05,000
Speaker 5: would say, it has been two hundred and twenty eight

1251
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Speaker 5: days that Americans have been held hostage in Iran, every

1252
01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:08,520
Speaker 5: single day.

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Speaker 1: Like Carter was thrown out of office over this.

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01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:16,000
Speaker 5: Yes, and it was a huge psychological shock that a

1255
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Speaker 5: foreign country would just torment dozens of Americans taken hostage

1256
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Speaker 5: in this way, and we felt powerless to do anything

1257
01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:26,000
Speaker 5: about it. There was an attempt at rescue mission it failed,

1258
01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:30,120
Speaker 5: and in that time Iran. So if you lived through that,

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01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:34,080
Speaker 5: it's very relatable to see Iran as this very severe,

1260
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Speaker 5: permanent United States enemy, and I think that psychologically shaped

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Speaker 5: a lot of people. But as you say, if your

1262
01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:42,680
Speaker 5: gen z, you've mostly lived through the era of just

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Speaker 5: Iran is perpetually a country we might go to war with. Yeah,

1264
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Speaker 5: but you don't have that shock memory of that time.

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01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:54,040
Speaker 5: Iran actually did a hugely just you know, a hugely

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Speaker 5: harmful thing to a large number of Americans.

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Speaker 4: Well said, so we're going to have out Marlow join

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01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:02,920
Speaker 4: us in just a moment, and then we're gonna have

1269
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Speaker 4: Mike Davis there. I'm gonna throw up this image, Uh,

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Speaker 4: actually it's you know, John Fetterman keeps surprising, but throw

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01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:12,840
Speaker 4: up two eighty one.

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Speaker 6: There's a whole conversation. You know.

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Speaker 4: Axios has this article Democrats demand war powers vote after

1274
01:08:18,360 --> 01:08:22,760
Speaker 4: US strikes Iran. John Fetterman responds, committed Democrat here, I'm

1275
01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:23,200
Speaker 4: a hard no.

1276
01:08:23,360 --> 01:08:25,120
Speaker 6: My vote is Operation Epic Fury.

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Speaker 4: So we're gonna have Mike Davis walk us through the

1278
01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:32,839
Speaker 4: legalities of the strike because this will constantly come into focus.

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Speaker 4: And I want to throw in a billion grains of

1280
01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:39,240
Speaker 4: sault here, so endless grains of salt. But as we

1281
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Speaker 4: await for confirmation of the fate of the Ayatol himself, Kamani.

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Speaker 6: Uh, you know, I'm getting.

1283
01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:50,480
Speaker 4: One more little sort of unconfirmed report again unconfirmed, unconfirmed, unconfirmed,

1284
01:08:51,280 --> 01:08:56,439
Speaker 4: that Supreme leader is out unconfirmed thousand grains of sault.

1285
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Speaker 4: But as we sort of piece together these data points,

1286
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Speaker 4: it's an interesting one and to hear. So we're obviously

1287
01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:06,000
Speaker 4: very much looking at that and we will confirm when

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Speaker 4: we can.

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01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:07,280
Speaker 3: Uh.

1290
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Speaker 4: But that's one indication, very very interesting that I'm getting.

1291
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Speaker 5: Since since we're waiting on Alexa Marlow, we have a

1292
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Speaker 5: very good clip featuring him where he was speaking with

1293
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Speaker 5: Charlie about this conflict, and it's a good it's a

1294
01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:21,800
Speaker 5: good statement of Charlie's attitude, which I know a lot

1295
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Speaker 5: of people are interested how he would respond to this,

1296
01:09:24,439 --> 01:09:28,960
Speaker 5: which was that he has his personal biases, his personal beliefs,

1297
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Speaker 5: but he has also, as an American citizen, a tendency

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Speaker 5: to place trust in President Trump, which is why he

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Speaker 5: supported him. Let's play two forty nine.

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Speaker 2: I think that we need to also differentiate for everyone

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Speaker 2: keeping score online where they say, oh my goodness, Donald

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Speaker 2: Trump started a new war. It is very conceivable that

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Speaker 2: if he bombs those two cities, that is not a

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Speaker 2: new war. Now Iron could retaliate and then what happens

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Speaker 2: after that? But I trust the I trust President Trump onter.

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Speaker 1: Percent in this moment.

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Speaker 2: He's a man made for this moment.

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Speaker 1: Understand through all.

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Speaker 2: This he took out Saul. He took out isis he

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Speaker 2: is able to navigate them.

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Speaker 5: So that's the hope I think we're all having, is

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Speaker 5: that we lived through the Bush administration, for example, which

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Speaker 5: didn't which had a very open ended approach to wars,

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Speaker 5: go into Afghanistan, drop thousands of troops there, when what

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Speaker 5: does victory look like? We don't know, go into Iraq

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Speaker 5: overthrow its government. Over one hundred thousand US troops there,

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Speaker 5: thousands of them killed, They're four ages. When do we

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Speaker 5: get out? What's victory look like? Eh, we don't know.

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Speaker 5: We do have confidence that President Trump will have a

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Speaker 5: clearer sense of what does he hope to get out

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Speaker 5: of this, what are the limits of how far he

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Speaker 5: will go on this? And he's repeatedly demonstrated ability on

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Speaker 5: that front, and so we are hopeful, we are prayerful

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Speaker 5: that this will be another case of that, even though

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Speaker 5: this is a bigger intervention than we've seen in the past.

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Speaker 6: So I agree.

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Speaker 5: So I'm just trying to a lot that's going on, folks.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of information incoming here, and it looks

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Speaker 4: like we are we're gonna have let's see Rich Barris

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Speaker 4: gonna join us. We're gonna talk about the political side

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Speaker 4: of this with him connecting via phone in just a

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Speaker 4: few minutes.

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Speaker 6: We also have.

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Speaker 4: Mike Davis coming on talking about the legality of it.

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Speaker 4: We also have Alex Marlow, editor in chief of Breitbart,

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Speaker 4: joining any moment now. So you know, let's just we

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01:11:24,080 --> 01:11:27,040
Speaker 4: want all voices here. We don't want to drown out

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Speaker 4: the folks that don't want this. We don't want to

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Speaker 4: We don't want to hype it up as if it's

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Speaker 4: a good thing. The truth is, we just simply don't know.

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Speaker 4: One thing we do know is that Charlie worked his

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Speaker 4: butt off to get President Trump elected because he trusted

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Speaker 4: him to handle these types of decisions. Whether or not

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Speaker 4: Charlie was in favor of such operations that you know,

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Speaker 4: that's very clear. He didn't want like regime change. That

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Speaker 4: being said, he was willing to take each different action

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Speaker 4: on its own merits. He did, you know, regime change

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Speaker 4: as an instinct.

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Speaker 6: Bad.

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Speaker 4: Okay, fine, But Charlie was willing to take each individual operation.

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Speaker 6: On its own merits.

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Speaker 4: That's very very clear from all the time I spent

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Speaker 4: with Charlie.

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Speaker 6: So we have to do the same. Jack, are you hearing?

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Speaker 6: I think? Oh, we lost Jack for a second.

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Speaker 4: Hold on, here we have Alex Marla just told me

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Speaker 4: he's he's in the queue, so let's go ahead and

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01:12:25,200 --> 01:12:25,559
Speaker 4: try and.

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Speaker 6: Log him on.

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Speaker 4: And we have Rich Barris also joining. We are here

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Speaker 4: on Real America's Voice as well streaming everywhere. Thanks everybody

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Speaker 4: for joining. Lots of incoming. So yep, so we got

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Speaker 4: another confirmation, Iron is telling the Revolutionary Guard tell ship's

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Speaker 4: passage through the Strait of Horne Moos is not allowed.

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Speaker 4: EU Naval Mission officials say, so, the EU is confirming

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Speaker 4: that the straight of horn Moose is being closed by Iran.

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Speaker 4: Whether or not that will hold, how long that will hold,

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Speaker 4: is yet to be determined. So we have that from Reuters.

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Speaker 4: Ron's Again, Ron's Revolutionary Guards teil ships passage through the

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Speaker 4: strait of her moves not allowed. EU Naval Mission officials say, well,

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Speaker 4: the EU will just allow Ron to do whatever it wants.

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Speaker 6: So the was like, oh, I guess we can't do that.

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Speaker 6: I have it.

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Speaker 5: It is very funny. I saw today, all right, Alex

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Speaker 5: is joining us. We saw there was a French politician

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Speaker 5: who's a member of a pro EU party, and that

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Speaker 5: vander Lyon person who heads the European Commission, did some

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01:13:28,479 --> 01:13:32,640
Speaker 5: statement upset about this, and the French politicians just like, basically,

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Speaker 5: shut up. You guys are really annoying because they are always.

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Speaker 4: Well, the Europeans all each other. That's so. Alex Marlow.

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Speaker 4: Welcome to our special Saturday stream here reacting to American

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Speaker 4: strikes against Iran as well as with Israeli forces as well.

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Speaker 4: I think there's multiple ways you can now analyze what's

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Speaker 4: going on here, Alex. One is from a purely political stance.

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Speaker 4: One is from a military perspective. Taking the military side, obviously,

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Speaker 4: we pray for our troops, We pray for everybody's safety,

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Speaker 4: we pray for zero casualties, all of those things. It

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Speaker 4: seems to have been extremely effective strikes, just based on

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Speaker 4: Iran's failure to retaliate. But and we're still waiting on

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Speaker 4: confirmation on who's who's still alive, who's dead. Take it

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Speaker 4: to the political side, though, Alex, which you know, what

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Speaker 4: do you make of the political fallout of a strike

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Speaker 4: like this?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, these are all great ways to frame it.

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Speaker 14: App And first of all, credit for you guys to

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Speaker 14: forgetting on the stream. I know it's what Charlie would

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Speaker 14: have wanted. So I don't love speaking for Charlie, but

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Speaker 14: I can tell you that so great job.

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Speaker 8: I know his audience wants to hear what's going on.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, I got a quite a bit of insight because

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Speaker 14: I spend some time with the President this week and

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Speaker 14: we did talk about this is off records, so I'll

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01:14:47,680 --> 01:14:50,639
Speaker 14: try to speak in broad terms about it. But the

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01:14:50,680 --> 01:14:54,559
Speaker 14: political stuff here, just to start there, I don't see

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Speaker 14: huge upside for the president even with a successful strike.

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Speaker 8: It seems like one of.

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Speaker 14: These one of the He's endeavors where even if he

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Speaker 14: nails it, I don't know if he picks up new

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01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:07,240
Speaker 14: voters from that. But if he fails, of course it'll

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Speaker 14: be a defining thing. It'll complicate the midterms, it will

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Speaker 14: complicate twenty twenty eight. So it's a bold move. But

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Speaker 14: he knows this. He's a smart person, so he must

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Speaker 14: have felt highly confident that this thing was going to

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Speaker 14: be successful, and he was sick of dealing with a

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Speaker 14: Rod's negotiating tactics, which are very tough and very unreasonable,

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01:15:23,880 --> 01:15:26,680
Speaker 14: and they demand crazy stuff. They never back off an

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Speaker 14: inch even though they're very very weak right now. So

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Speaker 14: that seems like where it comes from politically is I

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01:15:32,400 --> 01:15:34,479
Speaker 14: don't even know if he nails it, if he picks

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Speaker 14: up any support. But his perspective, from what I'm able

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Speaker 14: to glean from my conversations with him, is that people

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01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:44,120
Speaker 14: tend to be very negative when things happen initially, and

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Speaker 14: then if they're successful, they all of a sudden get

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Speaker 14: on board. It's kind of like people remembering they were

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01:15:48,479 --> 01:15:50,760
Speaker 14: at Woodstock when they weren't that sort of thing. So

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Speaker 14: he thinks that a lot of people didn't like, for example,

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Speaker 14: the Maduro raid, and then now everyone kind of likes it.

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Speaker 14: And so he has that data point in his head,

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Speaker 14: and he thinks there's a lot of unfinished business with Iran,

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Speaker 14: and he thinks they've been incredibly weak since Solomoni's killing

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Speaker 14: in the first administration.

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Speaker 8: So we got that.

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Speaker 14: Going and I feel like this is one where the

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Speaker 14: early evidence suggests it has been a early success for

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Speaker 14: President Trump. But the key thing here, he was crucial

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Speaker 14: about emphasizing this point. He is not going to tolerate

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Speaker 14: iron getting a nuclear weapon, and nothing in their rhetoric,

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Speaker 14: and we follow Iranian state media very closely bry Britain,

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Speaker 14: is nothing in their rhetoric backed off of that at all.

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Speaker 14: He was one hundred percent, no holds barred, full steam

1441
01:16:36,439 --> 01:16:40,680
Speaker 14: ahead from the Iranian regime, even after the devastating attacks

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Speaker 14: of a couple of months ago where their nuclear program

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Speaker 14: was pretty much wiped out. Their air defenses, as you

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01:16:46,280 --> 01:16:49,680
Speaker 14: can tell from today, basically non existent. They are incredibly

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01:16:49,680 --> 01:16:51,960
Speaker 14: weak and they're not backing down at all. So if

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Speaker 14: the Iotols wanted to stay in power, they needed to

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01:16:54,680 --> 01:16:57,120
Speaker 14: commit flat out we will not have nukes, and they

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Speaker 14: didn't come remotely close to that. And clearly nothing change

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Speaker 14: in the last forty eight hours of negotiations.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and by the way, people need to understand this,

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01:17:06,320 --> 01:17:10,519
Speaker 4: President Trump has been remarkably consistent on one thing with Iran.

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Speaker 4: They cannot have nuclear capabilities. And I said it earlier, Alex,

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Speaker 4: and I think it's worth stating again. You know, I

1454
01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:21,040
Speaker 4: was calling around. There seems to be Listen. I would

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Speaker 4: put this in the unconfirmed category, but there seems to

1456
01:17:23,479 --> 01:17:27,880
Speaker 4: be a serious concern on the part of a lot

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Speaker 4: of people that are as ardently anti war as we are,

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Speaker 4: and as Charlie was, within the leadership.

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Speaker 6: Of our own government, Yeah, ardently anti war.

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Speaker 4: That the urgency to commit to this strike at this

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Speaker 4: moment escalated quickly. And I don't know if that was

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Speaker 4: a dirty bomb or as John Solomon said before you

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01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:55,760
Speaker 4: joined that there was concern of hypersonic missiles, there was

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Speaker 4: something in the calculus changed, and would I would presume

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01:17:59,320 --> 01:18:01,000
Speaker 4: that they wouldn't want to go public with that to

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Speaker 4: sell the war because of the WMD fiasco. We all

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Speaker 4: remember so, but something happened here, and I think Iran

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Speaker 4: understood that their time was ticking and they were trying

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Speaker 4: to make pretty serious moves to to you know, as

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Speaker 4: a deterrent or maybe they were serious.

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Speaker 6: About using it against us go ahead.

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Speaker 14: Yeah sure, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. So I have no

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Speaker 14: information on that, but I will tell you from my

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Speaker 14: time with the President, and you could see the steady

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Speaker 14: build up around Iran of American military personnel.

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Speaker 8: On our fleet.

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Speaker 14: It felt like this was going to happen unless Iran said,

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Speaker 14: as Trump putted the magic words, we're not going to

1479
01:18:42,280 --> 01:18:44,080
Speaker 14: have a nuclear weapon. I think he probably some mother

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Speaker 14: desires as well. But it was interesting because I was

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Speaker 14: going to follow up with Hi when I was talking

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Speaker 14: about this. I was going to ask him, well, what

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01:18:51,840 --> 01:18:54,080
Speaker 14: about making sure they released all these political prisoners, what

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01:18:54,120 --> 01:18:55,520
Speaker 14: about them becoming democratic?

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01:18:55,520 --> 01:18:57,320
Speaker 8: What about them having a free press? Can we press them?

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Speaker 8: And stuff like that?

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Speaker 14: And you could tell it was pretty singular, was they

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Speaker 14: need to commit to know nukes ever, and their rhetoric

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01:19:03,439 --> 01:19:06,479
Speaker 14: is they want enrichment to sixty percent. There's nothing else

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Speaker 14: they're gonna do with that. That's not for you know,

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01:19:08,680 --> 01:19:11,960
Speaker 14: medical R and D. For sixty percent if they're pursuing

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Speaker 14: that and you're doing it in Trump's face.

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Speaker 8: Trump hates when you get in his face.

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Speaker 14: Remember when Maduro started dancing in the street, and then

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01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:19,360
Speaker 14: Trump when he got him, he went and took him out,

1496
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Speaker 14: like That's one of the things with Trump you don't do.

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Speaker 14: And Iran was relentless about not backing down, continuing to

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Speaker 14: have rhetoric as if they're very strong, they're very weak

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Speaker 14: politically and there's no real clear opposition, which is a

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Speaker 14: big complication. We can talk about that for hours.

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Speaker 8: But there's a there.

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01:19:34,640 --> 01:19:37,760
Speaker 14: The regime was weak within Iran, they're weak from the air,

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01:19:38,200 --> 01:19:40,360
Speaker 14: and Trump is not liking the way they're behaving. So

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01:19:40,400 --> 01:19:42,320
Speaker 14: that's where it comes from. And I don't know if

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01:19:42,320 --> 01:19:45,040
Speaker 14: any of the calculus really did change. Iran is just

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01:19:45,560 --> 01:19:48,320
Speaker 14: very tough negotiators. They're smart people, and they thought they

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01:19:48,760 --> 01:19:50,439
Speaker 14: I think they kind of dared Trump to do it.

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Speaker 5: They got to I mean, they got away with this

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Speaker 5: posture for literally decades forever. You're exactly doing the same

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Speaker 5: thing for decades and getting the same results. You get

1511
01:19:59,280 --> 01:20:00,760
Speaker 5: used to it, you think it's going to work.

1512
01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:04,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I was going to say, you brought

1513
01:20:04,439 --> 01:20:06,400
Speaker 4: up Alex the political angle of this.

1514
01:20:06,520 --> 01:20:07,960
Speaker 6: We have rich bears, but I didn't want to.

1515
01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:10,920
Speaker 5: Well, well could jump to Bearrison sec but I want

1516
01:20:10,920 --> 01:20:14,280
Speaker 5: to address something because a lot of people, inevitably, a

1517
01:20:14,320 --> 01:20:16,840
Speaker 5: lot of people cared about what Charlie thought about these things.

1518
01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:19,200
Speaker 5: They looked to him, they trusted his judgment. And we're

1519
01:20:19,240 --> 01:20:21,960
Speaker 5: seeing a lot of people repost We've showed several Charlie clips.

1520
01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:25,200
Speaker 5: They're also posting tweets of his, and some of them

1521
01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:28,080
Speaker 5: were very straightforward. There's one he made last summer where

1522
01:20:28,360 --> 01:20:31,599
Speaker 5: when Lindsey Graham was calling for regime change, and Charlie said,

1523
01:20:31,920 --> 01:20:35,759
Speaker 5: regime change will cause a civil war. It would be insane,

1524
01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:37,519
Speaker 5: it could kill hundreds of thousands of people, it could

1525
01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:40,800
Speaker 5: start another Muslim refugee crisis. That's what he said at

1526
01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:43,080
Speaker 5: the time about a regime change war. And I think

1527
01:20:43,080 --> 01:20:46,200
Speaker 5: we should be frank throughout. If Charlie was with us,

1528
01:20:46,200 --> 01:20:48,600
Speaker 5: I believe throughout the lead up to this conflict, he

1529
01:20:48,640 --> 01:20:51,040
Speaker 5: would have had those same concerns. He would have been

1530
01:20:51,320 --> 01:20:53,920
Speaker 5: warning the President about the downsides. He would have been

1531
01:20:53,920 --> 01:20:56,920
Speaker 5: warning other members of the administration about the downsides. He

1532
01:20:56,960 --> 01:21:00,000
Speaker 5: would be worried, we would we were in those text chains,

1533
01:21:00,160 --> 01:21:03,960
Speaker 5: we would have seen it. That said, he also always

1534
01:21:03,960 --> 01:21:06,360
Speaker 5: did have trust with the president, and he would look

1535
01:21:06,360 --> 01:21:08,600
Speaker 5: for the bright side of things, and he was an

1536
01:21:08,600 --> 01:21:11,679
Speaker 5: American patriot, so he would pray for our success once

1537
01:21:11,720 --> 01:21:14,360
Speaker 5: that began. And I just want to say that to

1538
01:21:14,439 --> 01:21:19,080
Speaker 5: offer perspective on how I think he would have felt

1539
01:21:19,080 --> 01:21:22,160
Speaker 5: about this. And that's not to use Charlie as a shield.

1540
01:21:22,160 --> 01:21:26,400
Speaker 5: That is not to use say everything just revolves around

1541
01:21:26,560 --> 01:21:29,400
Speaker 5: him because he's not with us anymore. But I know people,

1542
01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:32,040
Speaker 5: all of us are feeling the lack of Charlie in

1543
01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:34,639
Speaker 5: a moment like this because he was a natural leader

1544
01:21:34,680 --> 01:21:35,240
Speaker 5: of the movement.

1545
01:21:35,280 --> 01:21:37,439
Speaker 9: Well, I think that's also like as soon as all

1546
01:21:37,439 --> 01:21:40,360
Speaker 9: of this broke out, you saw that social media immediately

1547
01:21:40,360 --> 01:21:43,680
Speaker 9: went to go find charge hips because he still is,

1548
01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:47,000
Speaker 9: even in death, like the leading voice on.

1549
01:21:46,960 --> 01:21:47,680
Speaker 5: A matter like this.

1550
01:21:47,760 --> 01:21:50,000
Speaker 6: Well, and I'm sorry, go ahead, no, I was just

1551
01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:50,400
Speaker 6: gonna say.

1552
01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:52,840
Speaker 9: And it makes me upset though, because for these people

1553
01:21:52,840 --> 01:21:55,439
Speaker 9: that didn't actually know Charlie, like Blake you said it

1554
01:21:55,520 --> 01:21:56,560
Speaker 9: in private.

1555
01:21:56,320 --> 01:21:59,200
Speaker 13: He would be not happy with this situation.

1556
01:22:00,360 --> 01:22:02,519
Speaker 9: He would express his thoughts you would oftentimes see him

1557
01:22:02,520 --> 01:22:04,280
Speaker 9: talk about on the show. But then as soon as

1558
01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:06,160
Speaker 9: this would happen, he'd have the he would have trust

1559
01:22:06,160 --> 01:22:08,080
Speaker 9: in the president, he would try to calm people down.

1560
01:22:08,520 --> 01:22:10,600
Speaker 9: And so it's really irritating for me to see so

1561
01:22:10,600 --> 01:22:13,880
Speaker 9: many people on social media have the opposite reaction, to

1562
01:22:13,960 --> 01:22:18,000
Speaker 9: use his voice to actually cause chaos, to actually cause

1563
01:22:18,120 --> 01:22:21,599
Speaker 9: fear of this situation, to actually cause hatred of President

1564
01:22:21,640 --> 01:22:24,599
Speaker 9: Trump in this whole ordeal, when actually that's not what

1565
01:22:24,640 --> 01:22:25,200
Speaker 9: he would want.

1566
01:22:25,280 --> 01:22:29,639
Speaker 4: Well, and one of the Charlie Charlie resisted ideological fervor

1567
01:22:29,840 --> 01:22:32,519
Speaker 4: or these like the drums of war. He was really

1568
01:22:32,560 --> 01:22:35,200
Speaker 4: good about that. And because he hated war, m M.

1569
01:22:36,439 --> 01:22:38,920
Speaker 4: But he but he trusted the president. That's certainly true.

1570
01:22:38,920 --> 01:22:42,360
Speaker 4: I think we've established those points, But politically there's there's

1571
01:22:42,400 --> 01:22:45,920
Speaker 4: no there's I think less ambiguity to help us unpack that.

1572
01:22:46,080 --> 01:22:48,479
Speaker 6: Rich Barris, are you still on the line with us?

1573
01:22:49,160 --> 01:22:52,160
Speaker 6: I'm here, brother, all right, brother, Hey, so can you

1574
01:22:52,200 --> 01:22:53,479
Speaker 6: hear me? Yeah? I can hear you.

1575
01:22:53,560 --> 01:22:57,479
Speaker 4: So you're on with Alex Marlow, Mikey McCoy, Blake Neff,

1576
01:22:57,479 --> 01:22:58,120
Speaker 4: and myself.

1577
01:22:58,479 --> 01:23:00,400
Speaker 6: So welcome to the show. Rich.

1578
01:23:01,439 --> 01:23:04,000
Speaker 4: You know, I kind of know if I if I

1579
01:23:04,080 --> 01:23:06,519
Speaker 4: know you at all, Rich, I know kind of some

1580
01:23:06,600 --> 01:23:09,719
Speaker 4: of what you might say here, but you know, break

1581
01:23:09,760 --> 01:23:12,879
Speaker 4: it down, I mean, how how.

1582
01:23:12,760 --> 01:23:13,760
Speaker 6: Bad could this be?

1583
01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:16,879
Speaker 4: But also help us paint the best case scenario.

1584
01:23:17,200 --> 01:23:20,640
Speaker 10: Okay, look, I mean, well, first of all, we're a

1585
01:23:20,720 --> 01:23:24,360
Speaker 10: little bit in the ahistorical waters, like we're in uncharted

1586
01:23:24,400 --> 01:23:28,680
Speaker 10: waters because we've never had something to compare this too. Right,

1587
01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:30,639
Speaker 10: you had a president and I hear what other people

1588
01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:33,400
Speaker 10: are saying about you know, he did. He was consistent

1589
01:23:33,520 --> 01:23:36,840
Speaker 10: that Iran could never have a nuclear bomb. Listen, Americans

1590
01:23:36,840 --> 01:23:39,599
Speaker 10: do not follow the minutia of policy like this. Donald

1591
01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:42,800
Speaker 10: Trump was the anti war president. He rose to prominence

1592
01:23:43,120 --> 01:23:47,439
Speaker 10: and took out two massive political dynasties, largely on the

1593
01:23:47,560 --> 01:23:50,960
Speaker 10: no new war's promise. That is what every average American

1594
01:23:51,080 --> 01:23:53,160
Speaker 10: voter will tell you. They're not going to tell you

1595
01:23:53,240 --> 01:23:55,840
Speaker 10: about some like, you know comment he made on a

1596
01:23:55,880 --> 01:23:59,880
Speaker 10: campaign stop somewhere about Iran not getting a nuclear weapon.

1597
01:24:00,240 --> 01:24:03,519
Speaker 10: And this was and the administration knows this was a deeply,

1598
01:24:03,640 --> 01:24:06,720
Speaker 10: deeply unpopular action. The last one that we handed to

1599
01:24:06,760 --> 01:24:09,320
Speaker 10: them before we got out of the field was seventy

1600
01:24:09,360 --> 01:24:14,120
Speaker 10: percent of post that includes a majority of Republicans. So, like,

1601
01:24:14,640 --> 01:24:16,880
Speaker 10: I would love to gauge out and say this will

1602
01:24:16,880 --> 01:24:19,720
Speaker 10: cost this much, but the truth is, we've never been

1603
01:24:19,800 --> 01:24:23,759
Speaker 10: here before. Presidents have sold military actions to the public.

1604
01:24:24,080 --> 01:24:26,880
Speaker 10: They didn't done their best to drum up support for

1605
01:24:26,960 --> 01:24:30,200
Speaker 10: it before they did, you know, took any action, and

1606
01:24:30,280 --> 01:24:34,559
Speaker 10: they did not do this. So there's there's almost there's

1607
01:24:34,640 --> 01:24:37,760
Speaker 10: no look my knee jerk reaction, guys. And I'm not

1608
01:24:37,800 --> 01:24:39,720
Speaker 10: saying this to be negative or positive. I mean my

1609
01:24:39,800 --> 01:24:42,840
Speaker 10: job as a polster, right is that there's really there's

1610
01:24:42,880 --> 01:24:45,559
Speaker 10: no upside here. I know I heard what was said

1611
01:24:45,640 --> 01:24:48,719
Speaker 10: before too about the administration and their their mindset, because

1612
01:24:48,720 --> 01:24:51,200
Speaker 10: obviously I was talking to people myself in the last

1613
01:24:51,200 --> 01:24:55,240
Speaker 10: couple of weeks about this. You know that Maduro wasn't popular,

1614
01:24:55,320 --> 01:24:58,240
Speaker 10: then they snatched him and it got more popular. Maduro

1615
01:24:58,320 --> 01:25:02,080
Speaker 10: pulled more popular than this. And the fact is that

1616
01:25:02,520 --> 01:25:05,920
Speaker 10: Maduro is just a grab. It's not, you know, a regime.

1617
01:25:05,960 --> 01:25:08,960
Speaker 10: There's more of a symbol to a regime change war

1618
01:25:09,000 --> 01:25:11,080
Speaker 10: in the Middle East when it comes to Donald Trump,

1619
01:25:11,120 --> 01:25:15,559
Speaker 10: like that specifically was his stick. And if you you know,

1620
01:25:15,640 --> 01:25:18,760
Speaker 10: I just feel like that's a bit of a generational disconnect.

1621
01:25:19,120 --> 01:25:21,559
Speaker 10: If you're still thinking that, you know, there's a rally

1622
01:25:21,560 --> 01:25:24,240
Speaker 10: around the flag effect in this country, and you know,

1623
01:25:24,320 --> 01:25:28,160
Speaker 10: a positive outcome is going to elicit more support. You're

1624
01:25:28,280 --> 01:25:30,640
Speaker 10: kind of missing, You're missing the plot. You know that

1625
01:25:30,720 --> 01:25:34,200
Speaker 10: the plot is that everybody who's under age fifty five

1626
01:25:34,320 --> 01:25:36,880
Speaker 10: fifty years old in this country feels then no matter

1627
01:25:36,960 --> 01:25:39,479
Speaker 10: who they vote for, all they get is more focused

1628
01:25:39,520 --> 01:25:41,880
Speaker 10: on the Middle East and more wars and a government

1629
01:25:41,960 --> 01:25:45,000
Speaker 10: that doesn't pay any attention to them and their needs.

1630
01:25:45,360 --> 01:25:46,040
Speaker 6: So that out.

1631
01:25:46,080 --> 01:25:49,160
Speaker 10: You know that the opposition to this conflict was less

1632
01:25:49,200 --> 01:25:52,400
Speaker 10: about the specifics of it or whether you know we're

1633
01:25:52,400 --> 01:25:54,360
Speaker 10: doing good or we're doing bad. It was just like,

1634
01:25:54,720 --> 01:25:58,760
Speaker 10: no more, no more, we have needs at home, and

1635
01:25:58,840 --> 01:26:00,640
Speaker 10: I don't know how you get around on that. I

1636
01:26:00,640 --> 01:26:03,320
Speaker 10: mean even a successful mission, which I don't know what

1637
01:26:03,400 --> 01:26:06,840
Speaker 10: successful mission is. I mean, regime change is never an

1638
01:26:06,880 --> 01:26:11,200
Speaker 10: overnight thing. There are always unintended consequences and bad political

1639
01:26:11,240 --> 01:26:14,080
Speaker 10: headlines that plague you, you know, time and time again.

1640
01:26:14,560 --> 01:26:18,560
Speaker 10: Even if there was no quote of success, it doesn't

1641
01:26:18,600 --> 01:26:21,559
Speaker 10: negate why they you know, it doesn't negate the fact

1642
01:26:21,880 --> 01:26:24,639
Speaker 10: that voters opposed this and they posed it for a reason.

1643
01:26:26,280 --> 01:26:28,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, I I I hear you. Rich.

1644
01:26:28,360 --> 01:26:31,080
Speaker 4: I wanted to get your voice in because I think

1645
01:26:31,080 --> 01:26:37,240
Speaker 4: it's important. Jack has rejoined the show, Jack Pasovic, did

1646
01:26:37,280 --> 01:26:38,840
Speaker 4: you catch what Rich just said?

1647
01:26:38,920 --> 01:26:40,360
Speaker 6: I'd love to get your input on that.

1648
01:26:40,960 --> 01:26:43,760
Speaker 11: Uh, well, I mean I've heard Rich in general. You know,

1649
01:26:44,360 --> 01:26:46,640
Speaker 11: his stuff had to have a source call just some

1650
01:26:46,760 --> 01:26:49,160
Speaker 11: uh some uh you know, and and really, you know, look,

1651
01:26:49,360 --> 01:26:52,479
Speaker 11: there there are real questions I think as to what

1652
01:26:53,800 --> 01:26:56,400
Speaker 11: as to how long this this plays out, And I

1653
01:26:56,400 --> 01:27:00,920
Speaker 11: think the longer it goes, the the more or political

1654
01:27:01,160 --> 01:27:02,280
Speaker 11: ramifications are.

1655
01:27:02,400 --> 01:27:03,960
Speaker 1: I think that's that's basically it.

1656
01:27:04,120 --> 01:27:08,800
Speaker 11: And if President Trump does indeed mean to see this

1657
01:27:09,000 --> 01:27:12,200
Speaker 11: all the way through to full regime change, that could

1658
01:27:12,200 --> 01:27:14,519
Speaker 11: be longer. That could be a lot longer than one weekend.

1659
01:27:14,600 --> 01:27:17,040
Speaker 11: It's certainly going to be longer than one round of strikes,

1660
01:27:17,600 --> 01:27:20,760
Speaker 11: but we could be looking potentially at weeks of operations

1661
01:27:20,760 --> 01:27:21,320
Speaker 11: within Iran.

1662
01:27:23,120 --> 01:27:25,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think this, you know, sort of

1663
01:27:25,840 --> 01:27:27,920
Speaker 4: one of these things that we pray it's a day

1664
01:27:28,000 --> 01:27:32,240
Speaker 4: is not weeks situation, but it certainly could be more

1665
01:27:32,320 --> 01:27:34,320
Speaker 4: drawn out. And we have to be honest about the

1666
01:27:34,320 --> 01:27:38,160
Speaker 4: fact that Iran is a much bigger country, is stronger country. Yeah,

1667
01:27:38,200 --> 01:27:41,840
Speaker 4: there's weaknesses politically militarily, I think the regime is probably

1668
01:27:41,880 --> 01:27:44,880
Speaker 4: at its weakest point. As Alex mentioned that it's been

1669
01:27:44,920 --> 01:27:48,080
Speaker 4: in a long time, but it's still Iran. This We're

1670
01:27:48,080 --> 01:27:51,880
Speaker 4: talking eighty million plus people, a lot of internal division

1671
01:27:52,040 --> 01:27:58,080
Speaker 4: and factions, different regional geographical differences. Alex Marlow final thoughts

1672
01:27:58,120 --> 01:28:00,559
Speaker 4: to you, my friend. I think, thank you for making

1673
01:28:00,600 --> 01:28:01,439
Speaker 4: the time on a Saturday.

1674
01:28:01,520 --> 01:28:02,479
Speaker 8: Yeah, we have my pleasure.

1675
01:28:02,560 --> 01:28:02,600
Speaker 1: No.

1676
01:28:02,720 --> 01:28:06,040
Speaker 14: I think Jack and Rich touch on really important stuff.

1677
01:28:06,240 --> 01:28:09,160
Speaker 14: One of the hangoffs for me is what is next.

1678
01:28:09,400 --> 01:28:13,000
Speaker 14: And it is very factionalized country, and I think Trump

1679
01:28:13,000 --> 01:28:16,240
Speaker 14: again is probably drafting off of but with Maduro is there,

1680
01:28:16,360 --> 01:28:20,000
Speaker 14: it wasn't really a regime change war. They just took

1681
01:28:20,000 --> 01:28:21,680
Speaker 14: out one bad guy and it seems like things are

1682
01:28:21,680 --> 01:28:25,160
Speaker 14: moving in a positive direction. I think Trump understands leadership,

1683
01:28:25,160 --> 01:28:27,559
Speaker 14: and I don't think that he feels as though whatever

1684
01:28:27,640 --> 01:28:28,960
Speaker 14: is going to feel the void is going to be

1685
01:28:29,000 --> 01:28:32,320
Speaker 14: as threatening to the Western way of life as the

1686
01:28:32,320 --> 01:28:34,040
Speaker 14: eye tools are. And so I don't think he's got

1687
01:28:34,080 --> 01:28:36,000
Speaker 14: a lot of confidence. And reinstalling the show, I don't

1688
01:28:36,000 --> 01:28:38,280
Speaker 14: think that's going to be a popular thing. But I

1689
01:28:38,280 --> 01:28:41,120
Speaker 14: think the litmus test will be are their boots on

1690
01:28:41,160 --> 01:28:43,720
Speaker 14: the ground. I think once American boots are actually on

1691
01:28:43,760 --> 01:28:45,959
Speaker 14: the ground, and this is no longer an aerial campaign,

1692
01:28:46,320 --> 01:28:48,120
Speaker 14: I think that's when you're going to start losing a

1693
01:28:48,120 --> 01:28:49,880
Speaker 14: lot of people. I think a lot of people are

1694
01:28:49,880 --> 01:28:52,720
Speaker 14: going to tolerate this from a political standpoint. Again, I

1695
01:28:52,720 --> 01:28:55,160
Speaker 14: don't know who he's going to be adding politically on this,

1696
01:28:55,640 --> 01:28:57,360
Speaker 14: But if he's able to take out some bad guys,

1697
01:28:57,400 --> 01:28:59,439
Speaker 14: neutralize some threats, to do it from the air in

1698
01:29:00,200 --> 01:29:03,120
Speaker 14: just the spirit of going in kicking ass and getting

1699
01:29:03,120 --> 01:29:06,040
Speaker 14: out the way he's done in the past, stuff ages

1700
01:29:06,160 --> 01:29:08,040
Speaker 14: very well. But if there's boots on the ground and

1701
01:29:08,080 --> 01:29:12,120
Speaker 14: the regime change becomes America doing it hands on, I

1702
01:29:12,120 --> 01:29:14,240
Speaker 14: think that is going to be very, very deeply unpopular.

1703
01:29:14,280 --> 01:29:15,759
Speaker 14: And I do think that sort of thing that Charlie

1704
01:29:15,800 --> 01:29:16,439
Speaker 14: certainly didn't like.

1705
01:29:17,680 --> 01:29:21,479
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I think that's right. Rich.

1706
01:29:22,520 --> 01:29:26,600
Speaker 4: You have done analysis on, you know, kind of the

1707
01:29:26,600 --> 01:29:30,080
Speaker 4: polling of the president, and listen, there's other considerations besides

1708
01:29:30,120 --> 01:29:31,519
Speaker 4: polling that in a moment like.

1709
01:29:31,439 --> 01:29:32,879
Speaker 6: This you have to take into account.

1710
01:29:33,479 --> 01:29:36,280
Speaker 4: But you you're I remember that graph you came out

1711
01:29:36,280 --> 01:29:40,680
Speaker 4: with Rich that it was basically Iran and Epstein and

1712
01:29:40,720 --> 01:29:42,320
Speaker 4: the president still hasn't recovered.

1713
01:29:42,439 --> 01:29:45,080
Speaker 6: We just had that bump. I texted you privately. Rich.

1714
01:29:45,120 --> 01:29:46,599
Speaker 4: You said he was going to get a bump from

1715
01:29:46,640 --> 01:29:49,040
Speaker 4: the State of the Union. Does this complicate that bump?

1716
01:29:49,560 --> 01:29:52,200
Speaker 10: Yeah it does. And this is something I warned and

1717
01:29:52,240 --> 01:29:54,240
Speaker 10: I mean I don't have a problem saying this out loud.

1718
01:29:54,280 --> 01:29:56,759
Speaker 10: This is something I you know, I warned them about.

1719
01:29:56,880 --> 01:29:59,280
Speaker 10: You had a great moment during the State of the Union.

1720
01:29:59,439 --> 01:30:02,360
Speaker 10: This is something we can really build on. Let's take

1721
01:30:02,400 --> 01:30:05,160
Speaker 10: this momentum now and show the American people that we

1722
01:30:05,360 --> 01:30:09,439
Speaker 10: refocused and you know, on their needs. And you know, guys,

1723
01:30:09,600 --> 01:30:12,120
Speaker 10: you know this is something I said in yesterday too,

1724
01:30:12,200 --> 01:30:14,639
Speaker 10: because you know, no one's going to remember a great

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01:30:14,720 --> 01:30:17,040
Speaker 10: moment during the State of the Union. When something like

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01:30:17,080 --> 01:30:21,240
Speaker 10: this happens, it completely drowns out all of the positive

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01:30:21,320 --> 01:30:23,920
Speaker 10: that you you know, you refocused and built on. That's

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01:30:23,960 --> 01:30:27,000
Speaker 10: just the way American voters work. And let me just

1729
01:30:27,040 --> 01:30:30,479
Speaker 10: put it like this. You know, look, if you feel

1730
01:30:30,600 --> 01:30:33,360
Speaker 10: we just won an election in twenty four guys, you know,

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01:30:33,439 --> 01:30:36,880
Speaker 10: with the president was being persecuted, they Joe Biden rounded

1732
01:30:36,960 --> 01:30:40,320
Speaker 10: up more political prisoners than Vladimir Putin. They want to

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01:30:40,360 --> 01:30:42,519
Speaker 10: pack the court, they want to add states, they want

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01:30:42,520 --> 01:30:45,439
Speaker 10: to dismantle our entire system. And we ran on this

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01:30:45,720 --> 01:30:48,960
Speaker 10: concept that you know, Democrats were an existential threat to

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01:30:49,000 --> 01:30:53,080
Speaker 10: this country, what their ideology stands for, the political violence

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01:30:53,160 --> 01:30:56,599
Speaker 10: behind it. They are the threat to average Americans. They're

1738
01:30:56,640 --> 01:30:59,599
Speaker 10: the threat to the unfairness in the economy. And if

1739
01:30:59,640 --> 01:31:03,120
Speaker 10: you know, taking an action like this has basically no

1740
01:31:03,400 --> 01:31:06,519
Speaker 10: upside and will just do nothing but shave it doesn't

1741
01:31:06,520 --> 01:31:10,400
Speaker 10: matter if it's ten percent, it weakens the coalition. And

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01:31:10,479 --> 01:31:13,280
Speaker 10: if you believe both things are true, then this was

1743
01:31:13,320 --> 01:31:17,840
Speaker 10: not wise. End of story. You know, the primary objective

1744
01:31:17,920 --> 01:31:20,760
Speaker 10: must be to preserve the integrity of the coalition, because

1745
01:31:20,760 --> 01:31:24,720
Speaker 10: if Democrats take this government back over in November, it's

1746
01:31:24,760 --> 01:31:28,080
Speaker 10: the presidency is effectively over. You know we're gonna Why

1747
01:31:28,120 --> 01:31:32,280
Speaker 10: would why would anybody, and I don't use this term lightly,

1748
01:31:32,400 --> 01:31:35,479
Speaker 10: Why would you waste the first two years of your

1749
01:31:35,479 --> 01:31:39,200
Speaker 10: peak presidency when the president has the most opportunity to

1750
01:31:39,240 --> 01:31:42,360
Speaker 10: get real change done. Why would you waste both years

1751
01:31:42,400 --> 01:31:46,240
Speaker 10: now on other people's problems instead of showing the American

1752
01:31:46,240 --> 01:31:49,120
Speaker 10: people that you cared about their problem and what their

1753
01:31:49,160 --> 01:31:51,360
Speaker 10: problems and what you were elected to do. Is your

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01:31:51,400 --> 01:31:54,800
Speaker 10: primary focus. Weakening this coalition, which could have been a

1755
01:31:54,840 --> 01:31:59,120
Speaker 10: thirty year governing coalition like the Roosevelt Coalition is an

1756
01:31:59,240 --> 01:32:02,320
Speaker 10: unbelievable thing. Is a political guy to watch. It really is.

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Speaker 8: But hold on, I got a cup half.

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01:32:07,240 --> 01:32:10,000
Speaker 14: Yeah, I got a cup half full reaction to something

1759
01:32:10,200 --> 01:32:11,920
Speaker 14: that Rich said, which is that I think Trump is

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01:32:11,920 --> 01:32:13,599
Speaker 14: aware of this stuff. I think he understands that if

1761
01:32:13,600 --> 01:32:17,640
Speaker 14: he blows the midterms, we're doing impeachments, we're doing NonStop investigations,

1762
01:32:17,640 --> 01:32:18,599
Speaker 14: we're doing NonStop loft.

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01:32:18,600 --> 01:32:20,240
Speaker 8: Here his presence, he's ruined.

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Speaker 14: So it shows you he's got a very high degree

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Speaker 14: of confidence that this is not going to be a

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Speaker 14: ground war, and that he is this is going to

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01:32:26,400 --> 01:32:27,920
Speaker 14: age well, and this is going to be we took

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01:32:27,960 --> 01:32:30,599
Speaker 14: out a terrorist regime that is funding care all around

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Speaker 14: the world from getting nuclear weapons, and that will be

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Speaker 14: the post it note talking point. I have no evidence

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01:32:36,800 --> 01:32:38,639
Speaker 14: that that's going to be how it's going to turn out.

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Speaker 14: Maybe it won't, and I'm very cautious that it won't,

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Speaker 14: but I feel like that's clearly what he was thinking

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Speaker 14: when he made this move. And so hopefully the information

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Speaker 14: he's got, which is that they were just so weak,

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01:32:49,280 --> 01:32:53,519
Speaker 14: so vulnerable, particularly from our very capable air forces, to

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Speaker 14: go in and do some real damage quickly. So hopefully

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01:32:56,120 --> 01:32:57,839
Speaker 14: that's all this is, and this is not a prolonged

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Speaker 14: regime change thing.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, hey, I pray for that.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, that's the best case scenario, Andrew, which you asked

1782
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Speaker 10: me about before. I echo that I pray for that well.

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Speaker 4: And I want to address something here because I again

1784
01:33:12,439 --> 01:33:14,799
Speaker 4: I you know, these are just what I my sources.

1785
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Speaker 4: But it's also John Solomon. I think Jack has been

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Speaker 4: hearing similar things. You know, here's a post by Matt Walsh,

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Speaker 4: and you know, Matt Walsh, it's a very lengthy post.

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Speaker 4: I think it's a very sober post. It's basically saying,

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Speaker 4: you know, nobody's sufficiently explained, you know, how this benefit

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Speaker 4: of American citizens, And on it goes, he says we

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Speaker 4: and he brings up a I think a very good point,

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Speaker 4: but I want to address it. We hear about the

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Speaker 4: dangers of a nuclear Iran, but that's odd because we

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Speaker 4: were told that Iran's nuclear capabilities were already had already

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Speaker 4: been set back decades. We hear that this war will

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Speaker 4: be over quickly and easily because Iran is powerless, which

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Speaker 4: I hope and praise the case, and maybe it will be.

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Speaker 4: But that's odd too, because if Iran is such a

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Speaker 4: paper tiger, then how are they in danger a danger

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Speaker 4: to us in the first place. It's it seems hard

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Speaker 4: to argue both that Iran is an existential threat to

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Speaker 4: the United States and that we can topple them in

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Speaker 4: twenty minutes with no casualties or negative downstream effects. So

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Speaker 4: I think those are very logical statements by Matt. But

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Speaker 4: if some of the rumors that I'm hearing about concerns

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01:34:16,880 --> 01:34:20,519
Speaker 4: about either a dirty bomb or hypersonic missiles from China,

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Speaker 4: that they were trying to initiate some sort of connection

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01:34:24,560 --> 01:34:29,880
Speaker 4: with the CCP, there even a weak Iranian regime, if

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01:34:30,439 --> 01:34:34,400
Speaker 4: properly motivated, if they understand that their time is running

1810
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Speaker 4: out quickly, then they could be extremely dangerous. Even if

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Speaker 4: we took out four toh and some of the other

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Speaker 4: nuclear sites, they could be dangerous extremely quickly and even weakened,

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Speaker 4: and they might and you know, a dog backed into

1814
01:34:49,760 --> 01:34:53,519
Speaker 4: a corners could bite you, all right. So I don't

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Speaker 4: necessarily think that these things have to be mutually exclusive.

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Speaker 4: If somebody was chiming in, oh Rich, go ahead.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, can I actually, yeah, Andrew, can I address that?

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Speaker 10: Because I think Matt is probably summarizing what the consensus

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01:35:09,000 --> 01:35:11,000
Speaker 10: is right now. I mean We're already in the field

1820
01:35:11,080 --> 01:35:14,040
Speaker 10: right now. We're already talking to voters about this. You know,

1821
01:35:14,080 --> 01:35:16,400
Speaker 10: they woke up to this this morning, so we'll take

1822
01:35:16,439 --> 01:35:22,120
Speaker 10: them some time to process. But these inconsistencies are very glaring,

1823
01:35:22,280 --> 01:35:26,560
Speaker 10: to the point where even Normans who aren't focused on politics,

1824
01:35:26,640 --> 01:35:29,639
Speaker 10: like all we all are twenty four to seven, are

1825
01:35:29,760 --> 01:35:32,639
Speaker 10: constantly saying this in interviews. Wait a minute, Wait a minute,

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Speaker 10: the Fourteau plant, the other two sites, this was supposed

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Speaker 10: to be You just told us six months ago that

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01:35:38,720 --> 01:35:42,120
Speaker 10: we completely decimated their nuclear capability. Like this is not

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01:35:42,360 --> 01:35:45,160
Speaker 10: going to be lost on people, and it was. It

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01:35:45,240 --> 01:35:48,120
Speaker 10: is the case. It is the job of the president

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01:35:48,240 --> 01:35:51,760
Speaker 10: to make that case, and he didn't, and that is

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01:35:51,880 --> 01:35:56,160
Speaker 10: a massive problem. George Bush when they lied, But George

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01:35:56,200 --> 01:35:59,360
Speaker 10: Herbert Walker Bush babies had an incubator, you know, he

1834
01:35:59,520 --> 01:36:02,920
Speaker 10: threw he drove support before he took action. It was

1835
01:36:03,000 --> 01:36:06,360
Speaker 10: unsupported at first. He drove it to eighty percent before

1836
01:36:06,400 --> 01:36:10,200
Speaker 10: he launched a golf war. Even Grenada had almost yeah,

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01:36:10,200 --> 01:36:13,040
Speaker 10: I think it was actually seventy nine eighty percent. They

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01:36:13,080 --> 01:36:16,080
Speaker 10: took time to build their case, to make their case

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Speaker 10: to the American public, and this time Americans are feeling slighted.

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Speaker 10: I think you didn't even father.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, No, I agree with you, Rich, I Yeah, I

1842
01:36:29,160 --> 01:36:31,400
Speaker 4: agree with you that I think this has not been

1843
01:36:31,400 --> 01:36:33,160
Speaker 4: sold to the American public and there is going to

1844
01:36:33,200 --> 01:36:36,040
Speaker 4: be a political fallout. The question is how how long

1845
01:36:36,080 --> 01:36:37,479
Speaker 4: will that that hangover last?

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Speaker 3: Rich?

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01:36:38,920 --> 01:36:41,800
Speaker 4: Thank you for calling in, Rich Barris, big data pole,

1848
01:36:43,600 --> 01:36:46,600
Speaker 4: really important analysis there. We're gonna we're gonna do a

1849
01:36:46,600 --> 01:36:51,920
Speaker 4: little line change here, Rich, So I appreciate you calling

1850
01:36:52,000 --> 01:36:56,880
Speaker 4: in real quick. Hey, Jack, You've got some new reporting

1851
01:36:57,080 --> 01:37:00,400
Speaker 4: on the line of succession that apparently we were of

1852
01:37:00,600 --> 01:37:02,080
Speaker 4: should Kamane be taken out?

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01:37:02,240 --> 01:37:05,200
Speaker 11: Well, of course, and this still remains to be an assessment,

1854
01:37:05,240 --> 01:37:07,200
Speaker 11: but this is in line with what I've been reporting

1855
01:37:07,560 --> 01:37:10,960
Speaker 11: over at Human Events. This coming from Reuters. They're saying

1856
01:37:11,000 --> 01:37:13,759
Speaker 11: that there's CIA assessment that was presented to the President

1857
01:37:14,280 --> 01:37:17,360
Speaker 11: that prior to the Iran strikes, the CIA had assessed

1858
01:37:17,400 --> 01:37:21,439
Speaker 11: that even if Iotola Kimani is killed, that he would

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01:37:21,520 --> 01:37:27,080
Speaker 11: be replaced by hardline IRGC elements. It goes on to

1860
01:37:27,160 --> 01:37:30,559
Speaker 11: say that in the run up that is more than

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01:37:30,720 --> 01:37:33,720
Speaker 11: likely that the IRGC would take over. These assessments were

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Speaker 11: produced over the last two weeks, really asking that question

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01:37:37,040 --> 01:37:38,000
Speaker 11: what would happen.

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Speaker 1: What could happen if.

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Speaker 11: A US military operation or US and Israeli operation would

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01:37:43,200 --> 01:37:46,680
Speaker 11: trigger regime change in the Islamic Republic? Now, obviously, as

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01:37:46,680 --> 01:37:49,160
Speaker 11: the President Trump has called for, that is the goal

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Speaker 11: of the operation. This is the of course, the IRGC,

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Speaker 11: being the elite military force whose purpose is to protect

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Speaker 11: the Schiai Muslim clerical rule in Iran. Conclude the scenario

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Speaker 11: with any certainty, but most likely that it would be

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Speaker 11: elements of the IRGC that takes over, and that of

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01:38:08,240 --> 01:38:12,240
Speaker 11: course coming out of Reuters. But a report written by

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Speaker 11: the CIA, presumably Director Ratcliffe, who we know is down

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01:38:16,680 --> 01:38:18,880
Speaker 11: at mar A Lago right now with the President as

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Speaker 11: well as Secretary Hegseeth and other members of the National

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Speaker 11: Security team that are there at this sort of the

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Speaker 11: Winter Situation Room, if you will, there at mar Alago,

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Speaker 11: has presented to the President.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I think that's important.

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Speaker 4: Basically, one kill is not gonna, you know, topple the regime.

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Speaker 4: I think that's a fair assessment here. I would not

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Speaker 4: done as well. Yeah, this isn't Venezuela, but there have

1885
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Speaker 4: been other kills, and so as confirmations come in, we'll

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Speaker 4: keep an eye out for that Mike Davis Article three

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01:38:51,200 --> 01:38:54,840
Speaker 4: project is joining us. Now we have this story, these

1888
01:38:54,880 --> 01:38:58,000
Speaker 4: these rumblings up on Capitol Hill, and I want to

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Speaker 4: make sure we throw to it because you know, we've

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Speaker 4: seen fetterman is chiming in two eighty one. Here, throw

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Speaker 4: it up, police axios, Democrats demand war powers vote.

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Speaker 6: After the US strikes.

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Speaker 4: Run, Mike Davis explained to us the legality of these

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Speaker 4: strikes and what's the jockeying that's about to take place

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Speaker 4: on Capitol Hill.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 15: Under Article one of the Constitution, Congress has the power

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Speaker 15: to declare war. Under Article two of the Constitution, the

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Speaker 15: President of the United States, as the commander in chief,

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Speaker 15: has the power to repel an imminent attack, to repel

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01:39:38,560 --> 01:39:43,000
Speaker 15: invasions of America, the homeland, to a repel attacks on

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Speaker 15: American soldiers, service members, allies interest. Back in two thousand

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Speaker 15: and one, the Congress passed a Congressional Authorization for the

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Speaker 15: use of military force after nine to eleven that permitted

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Speaker 15: the president to go after to go after terrorist attacks.

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Speaker 15: Presidents since then have interpreted that broadly. Back in nineteen

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Speaker 15: seventy three, over President Nixon's veto, Congress passed the War

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Speaker 15: Powers Act no president, Democrat or Republican Republican has ever

1909
01:40:26,280 --> 01:40:30,040
Speaker 15: complied with the War Powers Act of nineteen seventy three.

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Speaker 15: Every president since nineteen seventy three has said that the

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Speaker 15: War Powers Act is unconstitutional. If the president were to

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Speaker 15: follow the War Powers Act, what would happen is is

1913
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Speaker 15: that Congress would have six up to sixty days to

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Speaker 15: pass a joint resolution to tell the president that he

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01:40:52,000 --> 01:40:55,200
Speaker 15: is authorized to continue to use force. If they do

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Speaker 15: not do that during that sixty day period, the president

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Speaker 15: has up to thirty more days ninety days total to

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Speaker 15: withdraw those military forces.

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Speaker 4: So that would basically hamstring the president. So you're saying

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Speaker 4: that since the passage of the War Powers at nineteen

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Speaker 4: seventy three, every every president has basically defied it.

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Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, Blake, is that.

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Speaker 5: We like to our presidents like to do things.

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Speaker 4: Yes, we I mean, I don't see how it's even

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01:41:25,920 --> 01:41:29,559
Speaker 4: functional though, actually right, because you you have to move quickly,

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Speaker 4: is that you do?

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Speaker 5: But I think we should we should reflect on this

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Speaker 5: fact that for most of this Republic's history we did

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Speaker 5: rely on cong We at least went through the motions

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Speaker 5: of the Congress as a large declaring wars we declared,

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Speaker 5: we declared war on Japan after Pearl Harbor, we declared

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Speaker 5: war on Germany and World War One, we declared war

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Speaker 5: on Spain before going to seize Puerto Rico. And I

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Speaker 5: think I think you would, ideally you would want cong

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Speaker 5: to sign off on an intervention of this magnitude as

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Speaker 5: and for that matter, interact. We did sign off on

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Speaker 5: that use of military force before we went in. And

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Speaker 5: I don't think we want a country where we just

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Speaker 5: passively accept the idea that any president can start any

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Speaker 5: war of any duration without some sort of check on.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So Mike on reflecting on that, Obviously any activity

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Speaker 4: is more legitimate when you have the backing of Congress.

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Speaker 4: It's good politically, it's probably good culturally. Explain the difference

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Speaker 4: of those war resolutions, you know, in World War II,

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Speaker 4: for example, World War One, versus what was established in

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Speaker 4: the apparently unconstitutional War Powers Act of nineteen seventy three.

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Speaker 15: Well, we haven't had a declaration of war by Congress

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Speaker 15: since World War two?

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Speaker 6: Correct, And there.

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Speaker 15: Are serious implications for Americans' civil liberties. When you have

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Speaker 15: a declaration of war, the president has more authority to

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Speaker 15: do things within the borders of the United States, including

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Speaker 15: as it relates to American citizens civil liberties when there's

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Speaker 15: a declaration of war. So I think we have to

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Speaker 15: be careful about going down the path of a declaration

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Speaker 15: of war because it actually may have the opposite effect

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Speaker 15: of what many people think. Libertarians think, in particular, it

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Speaker 15: means that our liberties are more at risk. With the

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Speaker 15: War Powers Act of nineteen seventy three, again passed by Congress,

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Speaker 15: they overrode President Nixon's vita. They were trying to curb

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Speaker 15: the president's war making powers during the Cold War. Because again,

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Speaker 15: we haven't had a declaration of war since World War Two,

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Speaker 15: no president has followed it. I would say this about

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Speaker 15: this current bombing of Iran. I think the president has

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Speaker 15: inherent power under Article two of the Constitution as commander

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Speaker 15: in chief, because you just had the Iran's supreme leader,

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Speaker 15: I think it was ten days ago, put out a

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Speaker 15: video saying that he is going to sink American warships.

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Speaker 15: That is, the president has the power and the duty

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Speaker 15: under Article two to make sure that Iran does not

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Speaker 15: sink American warships. And it's hard to sink American warships.

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Speaker 15: As I ran supreme leader, if your house is obliterated

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Speaker 15: or your debt.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, great analysis there, Mike. I appreciate you. I think

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Speaker 4: this is going to be a really much much ink

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Speaker 4: will be spilled, put it that way over this fight

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Speaker 4: in Washington about what Trump's abilities are in the next

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Speaker 4: coming week. So this is really important context. We needed it.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, Mike Davis.

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Speaker 14: You know, guys, there's a legal issue which might address

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Speaker 14: really well, but a lot of this is. Part of

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Speaker 14: the problem here is that the Democrat Party is run

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Speaker 14: by online activists on the internet, and this is a

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Speaker 14: big risk of that is if they want to be

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Speaker 14: included in big boy decisions, then they can't let their

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Speaker 14: online radicals control the whole party because it probably isn't

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Speaker 14: even most of their voter base. And Rich was here,

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Speaker 14: had to ask him what the polling is on that.

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Speaker 14: But it's one of these things where there so deeply

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Speaker 14: unserious as a party that they pretty.

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Speaker 8: Much check out.

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Speaker 14: And so that's why, of course we don't want the

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Speaker 14: president breaking the law.

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Speaker 8: But what's he gonna do. He's gonna call.

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Speaker 14: Up and they did apparently according to sources that I have,

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Speaker 14: they did speak to the Gang of Eight, so that

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Speaker 14: includes four Democrats or at least three of them they

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Speaker 14: got on the phone from what I'm told ahead of time.

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Speaker 14: But you can't consult most of the people in that

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Speaker 14: party and expect anything serious to happen. It's just a

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Speaker 14: waste of time. And how do we know they're not

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Speaker 14: going to leak stuff? Remember we're not that far removed

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Speaker 14: from from General Millie basically warning the Chinese if we're

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Speaker 14: gonna attack them, or saying he would do that. So

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Speaker 14: there's so many people who try to undermine this president

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Speaker 14: every turn. We don't get to have nice things like

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Speaker 14: everyone working together when we might go to war now.

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Speaker 8: And that's a deep shame.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's really well put.

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Speaker 6: Alex So.

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Speaker 4: I just got a note from one of my contacts

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Speaker 4: in the military and he basically said, you know, first

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Speaker 4: he wants to make this clear. Iran is not Persian,

2014
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Speaker 4: is per not Arab. They are Western friendly more so

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Speaker 4: than some of the out some I think in our

2016
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Speaker 4: popular imagination that we think. And of course he's talking

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Speaker 4: about the actual people of Iran, not necessarily the regime.

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Speaker 4: The falling of the Mullahs in Iran will give an

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Speaker 4: opportunity for Iran to become Western friendly more so and

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Speaker 4: also join former allies in the Middle East to regulate

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Speaker 4: oil away from bad actors and adversaries. Obviously thinking about

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Speaker 4: the CCP. You made this point earlier, Mikey. It will

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Speaker 4: greater limit Russia to a regional power and it will

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Speaker 4: lose which will lose an ally there. It will removes

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Speaker 4: an ally from North Korea. It dams up the Chinese

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Speaker 4: Belton Road initiative, and will cause them to have a

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Speaker 4: further play pay global prices for energy they can't produce.

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Speaker 4: So there's there are knock on downstream effects. There's also

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Speaker 4: implications for Taiwan and China potentially, So I do think

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Speaker 4: that Trump is thinking strategically from an international standpoint.

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Speaker 8: I think I want to talk China, hear Andrew if

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Speaker 8: we can.

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Speaker 14: But yeah, well, we're almost ninety percent of Iron's oil

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Speaker 14: oil exports go to China and they get it a

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Speaker 14: cut rate, and China is trying to destroy our country

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Speaker 14: with fentanel and I'm sure that's part of Trump's calculus. Again,

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Speaker 14: I'm not trying to justify anything as particularly this thing

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Speaker 14: becomes a complicated ground war with regime change. I'm not

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Speaker 14: trying to do that, but I do want to add

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Speaker 14: to the context that if they're giving the Communist Party

2041
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Speaker 14: of China cut rate oil at a steep discount, then

2042
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Speaker 14: that is going to be devastating to China, who is

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Speaker 14: trying to murder Americans with fentanel. As we're having this conversation, No, I.

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Speaker 4: Think that's I think that's spot on, all right, Jack Pasowic, please.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, No, I was just gonna say, you know, when

2046
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Speaker 11: it comes to China and their reliance on Iranian oil,

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Speaker 11: that also could potentially up the ante for you know,

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Speaker 11: typically we don't see the Chinese get involved in these

2049
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Speaker 11: types of wars. We typically see them be more circumspect

2050
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Speaker 11: when it comes to that. But at the same time,

2051
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Speaker 11: you certainly could see China getting in and support similar

2052
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Speaker 11: to how they got behind the Taliban very quickly in

2053
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Speaker 11: the Fall of Kabul. You could really see China get

2054
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Speaker 11: in and back potentially, well, we're just talking about the

2055
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Speaker 11: scenario if the IRGC gets in, you could see China

2056
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Speaker 11: come in and backstopping them very quickly. Because it's all

2057
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Speaker 11: about stability for those oil supplies. China is even understanding

2058
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Speaker 11: of the issue with the straight of Horne moves. That's

2059
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Speaker 11: why they've been trying to build a part as part

2060
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Speaker 11: of the Belton Road initiative, a pipeline across Pakistan and

2061
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Speaker 11: across Shinjong. That's why the Wigers are so important to

2062
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Speaker 11: them and keeping the Wakers down, because they want a

2063
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Speaker 11: pipeline directly to their Iranian supplies and the Iranian oil

2064
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Speaker 11: supplies there in Persia, and so this is something that's very,

2065
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Speaker 11: very important for the Chinese. They don't have the types

2066
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Speaker 11: of oil supplies that they you know, that other countries do.

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Speaker 11: This is why, of course they're building pipelines with Russia

2068
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Speaker 11: in Siberia. So you really could see as an X

2069
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Speaker 11: factor here China getting involved backing the IRGC the same

2070
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Speaker 11: way that they backed the Taliban in Afghanistan because it's

2071
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Speaker 11: just that much more.

2072
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Speaker 1: Important for them.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I wonder how much Russia can actually backfill what

2074
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Speaker 4: they're about to lose from Iran, assuming this plays out

2075
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Speaker 4: the way it looks students, None of that is certain,

2076
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Speaker 4: But I wonder how much Russia could backfill if they

2077
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Speaker 4: lose an arounding source of oil.

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Speaker 5: Blake, Why don't you speak, it's just efficient.

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Speaker 4: Those pipelines aren't built yet. Yeah, so there is a

2080
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Speaker 4: time to lay there. But you're you're kind of looking

2081
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Speaker 4: into some of these these down knock on effects what

2082
01:49:26,720 --> 01:49:28,559
Speaker 4: this could mean for the Indo Pacific, for Axa.

2083
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean the best it's like I like I

2084
01:49:31,640 --> 01:49:37,120
Speaker 5: said earlier, the best argument for this conflict is if this,

2085
01:49:37,240 --> 01:49:40,280
Speaker 5: instead of being yet another Middle East war, is could

2086
01:49:40,280 --> 01:49:44,639
Speaker 5: this be the last Middle East war because Venezuela something

2087
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Speaker 5: or you know, we've had so many troops, so many assets,

2088
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Speaker 5: so much attention on the Middle East for my entire

2089
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Speaker 5: adult life. We had the Gulf War, which turned into

2090
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Speaker 5: you know, we bombed Ract several times throughout Clinton's presidence,

2091
01:50:00,120 --> 01:50:03,960
Speaker 5: which then leads into Afghanistan, leads into Iraq, leads into Libya,

2092
01:50:04,080 --> 01:50:07,679
Speaker 5: leads into the ISIS war, and now we're back around

2093
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Speaker 5: to Iran where this all started. And even before I

2094
01:50:09,960 --> 01:50:12,000
Speaker 5: was born, we had the conflicts with Iran, with the

2095
01:50:12,040 --> 01:50:15,720
Speaker 5: hostages and other standoffs. It's been this huge focus of

2096
01:50:15,760 --> 01:50:18,320
Speaker 5: America for a long time. And what's driven so much

2097
01:50:18,320 --> 01:50:22,320
Speaker 5: frustration is we've gotten involved repeatedly. Thousands of Americans have died,

2098
01:50:22,360 --> 01:50:25,640
Speaker 5: and one there never seems to be super clear progress,

2099
01:50:26,080 --> 01:50:28,840
Speaker 5: and instead it just seems to go on forever and

2100
01:50:28,960 --> 01:50:32,000
Speaker 5: there's not clear upside for the United States through all

2101
01:50:32,000 --> 01:50:35,919
Speaker 5: of it. And if President Trump is able to overthrow

2102
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Speaker 5: this regime and then say all of the big threats

2103
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Speaker 5: to America are gone. We're expanding the Abraham Accords. Will

2104
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Speaker 5: you know, We'll stay friendly with all of the countries involved.

2105
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Speaker 5: But now America is self sufficient in oil. We're an

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Speaker 5: oil exporter, which we never were throughout a lot of

2107
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Speaker 5: these conflicts in the past. And now we can take

2108
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Speaker 5: all this focus that we've had on the Middle East

2109
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Speaker 5: and we can focus on America, focus on China, focus

2110
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Speaker 5: on where our core strategic interests are. That is the

2111
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Speaker 5: best cell that he can make on this. And that's

2112
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Speaker 5: rather you think this war is a great idea or

2113
01:51:08,000 --> 01:51:11,120
Speaker 5: is a disastrous idea. The war is happening, and so

2114
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Speaker 5: now well we look forward.

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Speaker 9: I don't know, like I like, I could be wrong,

2116
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Speaker 9: you know, in the coming weeks or whatever. But this

2117
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Speaker 9: really doesn't from early reporting even look like a war.

2118
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Speaker 9: I mean, it's day one, it's day one, and we

2119
01:51:26,800 --> 01:51:28,679
Speaker 9: could be wrong, but this doesn't look like a war.

2120
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Speaker 9: This looks like strikes on regime. But if you look

2121
01:51:33,240 --> 01:51:35,960
Speaker 9: back to a rock I mean the images out of

2122
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Speaker 9: Baghdad during the start of the War like that was

2123
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Speaker 9: very different. That actually was a war. This is very different,

2124
01:51:42,160 --> 01:51:44,600
Speaker 9: and we could be wrong as time goes on. But

2125
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Speaker 9: President Trump time and again has been right on this.

2126
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Speaker 9: The Twelve Day War, everybody thought that this was going

2127
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Speaker 9: to go on forever Venezuela. People thought it was it

2128
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Speaker 9: was a bad idea, and now this is the third

2129
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Speaker 9: time where President Trump could prove us all wrong again. However,

2130
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Speaker 9: I just want to say this, This is a sign

2131
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Speaker 9: to China, This is a signed to Russia that when

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Speaker 9: President Trump warns of something, when President Trump says not

2133
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Speaker 9: to do something and you do the opposite, like he's

2134
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Speaker 9: coming in, he will.

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Speaker 4: Take Actually it's like that Marco Rubio great one liner

2136
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Speaker 4: where he says, well, if you didn't know, now you know.

2137
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Speaker 6: Yeah exactly.

2138
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Speaker 4: But he's done that a couple of times, and I

2139
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Speaker 4: do think there is power in that basically saying, you know,

2140
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Speaker 4: if you if you don't get in line, bad things

2141
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Speaker 4: are gonna happen, and then they actually happen. I mean,

2142
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Speaker 4: that is a that is a break from a lot

2143
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Speaker 4: of previous presidents. It just is, and I think it's

2144
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Speaker 4: gonna have potentially positive impacts. I think Alex Marlow thank

2145
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Speaker 4: you for making the time. Final thoughts to you, I

2146
01:52:48,680 --> 01:52:49,920
Speaker 4: think we should do a bit of a round the

2147
01:52:49,960 --> 01:52:52,920
Speaker 4: horn here, What do you hope to see? What do

2148
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Speaker 4: you expect to see? And then we'll we'll move to

2149
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Speaker 4: Jack and then.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, I'm cautious about the fact that Trump's reputation as

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Speaker 14: someone who does not start wars is in jeopardy at

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Speaker 14: the moment, and he wants that. I think he likes

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Speaker 14: that for himself for historical context. So he must have

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Speaker 14: obviously thought this was a really legitimate opportunity to take

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Speaker 14: out a terrorist funding regime that's deeply tied to China

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Speaker 14: and could do a lot of good here. So I

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Speaker 14: am definitely gonna wait it out before I have a

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Speaker 14: full evaluation that I'm not gonna light my hair on

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Speaker 14: fire over this yet, particularly if we keep it aerial

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Speaker 14: and we seem to see evidence of high profile targets

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Speaker 14: getting hit with precision, which it looks like that's what

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Speaker 14: we're seeing initially.

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Speaker 8: This could go any.

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Speaker 14: Sort of direction, but as of now, I'll keep cautious optimism.

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Speaker 8: The one thing that I want to.

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Speaker 14: Respond to that's been a discussion, is this a question

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Speaker 14: of what is his obligation to sell the war, and

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Speaker 14: it's unfortunately, I feel like it's sort of a fruitless

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Speaker 14: endeavor or a pointless endeavor for him to try to

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Speaker 14: sell it to people, because if he's talking about anything

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Speaker 14: other than affordability right now now, he's probably losing. And

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Speaker 14: if he's talking about affordability, he's probably losing two. So

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Speaker 14: it's one of these things where what is he supposed

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Speaker 14: to say to get people on board? And I don't know.

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Speaker 14: I think victory winning is its own ideology. And so

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Speaker 14: if he can have success and then say look at

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Speaker 14: the great success in retrospect, that is, in my opinion,

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Speaker 14: probably his best strategy, and I think that's why he

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Speaker 14: can go out and sell this. This was noticeably absent

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Speaker 14: from a State of the Union. He had no Iran

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Speaker 14: talk at all, which I thought was very telling. I

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Speaker 14: thought that meant that he must be really knee deep

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Speaker 14: in the negotiations for not to come up at all,

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Speaker 14: which was It was a striking omission, I thought, and

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Speaker 14: it made me think something really might happen here. Unless

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Speaker 14: these guys say they're going to give up nukes. That's

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Speaker 14: at a signal to me he was serious. He was

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Speaker 14: going to attack, And I feel like the salesmanship element

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Speaker 14: is not something that I expect. We would be nice

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Speaker 14: to get it, but I think there's just too much

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Speaker 14: risk that a convincing sale could take off China, which

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Speaker 14: is not Trump's position. Remember Trump never talks about China,

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Speaker 14: even when he's going up against China, he never says

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Speaker 14: anything negative. He always says what a great guy Hi

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Speaker 14: Jinping is. That's all he ever says publicly. That's the approach.

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Speaker 14: So you got to imagine that will continue even if

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Speaker 14: a lot of this does turn out to be about

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Speaker 14: China in the end. And I think he feels like

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Speaker 14: the more information he gives, the more people misinterpret it,

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Speaker 14: the more people twist it, the more people leak, and

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Speaker 14: that's a tough spot for him. So victory is again

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Speaker 14: it's own ideology. If this thing holds and is successful,

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Speaker 14: and a lot of high profile targets go down, and

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Speaker 14: we don't have boots on the ground and we're not

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Speaker 14: micromanaging a regime change, then we're gonna look back at

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Speaker 14: this in a few weeks and we're gonna say it

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Speaker 14: was another w But there's so many other scenarios that

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Speaker 14: could present itself between now and then.

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Speaker 4: Great great summation there, Alex Jack, We've got more intel

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Speaker 4: coming in on this potential school that was hit.

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Speaker 6: Fill us in.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, so there's been reports from early on regarding a

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Speaker 11: school that was struck. And again, just when when I

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Speaker 11: see everything on Twitter, when I see things like this,

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Speaker 11: you know, you really have to be careful with all

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Speaker 11: of it because you just you just don't know what

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Speaker 11: is real, what is a you know, what is a

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Speaker 11: false report, what's disinformation. I'll just say this is what

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Speaker 11: the AP is reporting right now. It is saying that,

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Speaker 11: according to Iranian State TV, the death toll from a

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Speaker 11: strike that hit a school in southern Iran has risen

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Speaker 11: to eighty five people. This is also being reported currently

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Speaker 11: in New York Times, BBC, and PR, but those are

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Speaker 11: also being based off of Iranian state reports. So again

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Speaker 11: I would I would caution that with a grain of

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Speaker 11: salt as to exactly what's going on. There also seeing

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Speaker 11: reports that this was a facility or this school was

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Speaker 11: near an IRGC facility.

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Speaker 1: That's going back and forth.

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Speaker 11: But again I'm just reporting with their reporting, which is

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Speaker 11: based on Iranian state reports. But because this is so

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Speaker 11: much being reported in the media, we're just telling you

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Speaker 11: to keep a breath it that that's what we're hearing.

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Speaker 11: There's also questions as to and just like I would say,

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Speaker 11: you know, we saw this in Ukraine a lot where

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Speaker 11: there would be times where a missile or an interceptor

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Speaker 11: or something that was in the path or nearby a

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Speaker 11: certain facility was hit.

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Speaker 1: That it may not have been that anyone.

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Speaker 11: Was intentionally targeting that school, that hospital or something. But

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Speaker 11: be given the nature of air combat and missile warfare,

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01:57:30,520 --> 01:57:32,839
Speaker 11: that if you get a shootdown, if you get a deflection,

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Speaker 11: if you get a misfire, if you get debris, all

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Speaker 11: of these things, if you're shooting down a drone for example,

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Speaker 11: that the munitions could still be active and it may

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Speaker 11: be unfortunately you know, in many of these cases that

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Speaker 11: it hits an unintended target. And again just you know,

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01:57:50,320 --> 01:57:52,520
Speaker 11: blanket statement. I don't know, I'm not confirming whether or

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Speaker 11: not this happened. We're just seeing those reports, but blanket

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Speaker 11: statement that these are the things that happen when you

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Speaker 11: go into war.

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Speaker 1: As as they say, the enemy always gets a vote.

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Speaker 11: Mike Tyson is famous for saying everyone's got a plan,

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01:58:06,720 --> 01:58:07,960
Speaker 11: so they get punched in the face.

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Speaker 1: And we are currently in the fog of war.

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Speaker 11: So that is that's the brief as far as I

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Speaker 11: can give it on that report right now.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Mikey than Blake, and then we're gonna wrap. Mikey

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Speaker 4: gen Z. You were born in two thousand and one,

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Speaker 4: You've only known war.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: I mean, this is why Charlie's stances on these things

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Speaker 9: were so appealing to young peoples because we just kind

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Speaker 9: of had a fatigue with it. But at the same time,

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Speaker 9: having been under kind of the tutelage of Charlie, I

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Speaker 9: learned oftentimes what was emotionally felt in private isn't always

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Speaker 9: what needs to be said in public. Even though I

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Speaker 9: am ultimately against regime change, President Trump has a record

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Speaker 9: and I'm not going to bet against the record. And

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Speaker 9: I also think as a patriot, seeing America take a

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Speaker 9: firm stance against enemies is something that ultimately, I think

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Speaker 9: all of us can agree on if it's done in

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Speaker 9: the right way, if there's full transparency, if we understand

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Speaker 9: why it matters to Americans.

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Speaker 6: So mine is.

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Speaker 9: A half a glass half full, let's wait and see approach.

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Speaker 9: But ultimately, the images coming out of Iran, I really

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Speaker 9: doubt this.

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Speaker 13: This looks like a war for now, and we could

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Speaker 13: be wrong, right this is only day one. Time will tell. However,

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Speaker 13: I think.

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Speaker 9: That these are these are Persian people.

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Speaker 13: They are ultimately pro West. And all you have.

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Speaker 9: To do is look at the reports of videos from

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Speaker 9: young people in Iran right now. Look at reports of

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Speaker 9: that is irony in Iran right now. And so the

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Speaker 9: irony is is that young people here in the US

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01:59:47,440 --> 01:59:50,000
Speaker 9: really don't care about foreign policy. But then young people

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01:59:50,040 --> 01:59:53,800
Speaker 9: in Iran are cheering President Trump's name and running out

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Speaker 9: of their schools.

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Speaker 5: For them domestic policy, yeah, yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 9: So we'll wait and see, but all ultimately, I think

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Speaker 9: we need to just trust President Trump and our friends

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Speaker 9: in DC.

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Speaker 5: Right now. What I'll say is, if you pulled me

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Speaker 5: last summer, should we do regime change in Iran? I

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Speaker 5: would have said no. If you pulled me two weeks ago,

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Speaker 5: should we do regime change in Iran? I think I

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Speaker 5: would say no. But the President did make this decision

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Speaker 5: to pursue this. We are all American patriots. We want

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Speaker 5: the best for this country. So we must hope that

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Speaker 5: this goes as the President hopes it will, as the

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Speaker 5: military hopes it will, and we must support them in

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Speaker 5: trying to achieve that a lot can happen. A lot

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Speaker 5: could happen before this day is out, before this weekend

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Speaker 5: is out. We might all be back in this studio

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Speaker 5: in a matter of hours. If something major happens, if

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Speaker 5: the US ship has hit, if US soldiers are lost,

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Speaker 5: if there's major strikes, will hopefully be a place that

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Speaker 5: you can turn to for honest perspective on this And

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Speaker 5: so looking ahead, we are hoping for the best, but

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Speaker 5: we've been frank. The administration must make a strong case

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Speaker 5: for this conflict to the American people at large and

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Speaker 5: to its base. They did run as a piece ticket.

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Speaker 5: They made the case that President Trump is good at

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Speaker 5: avoiding wars. He was very proud that in his first

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Speaker 5: administration he did not begin any new ones. That doesn't

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Speaker 5: mean he never has to start one, because sometimes that

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Speaker 5: is the best call for the American people. And if

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Speaker 5: they can make that case, God bless them and will

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Speaker 5: be praying for them to be able to do that.

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Speaker 5: And until then, we're playing a waiting game.

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Speaker 4: Like everyone, Yeah, Jack, any final thoughts before we log

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Speaker 4: off here.

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Speaker 1: Jack or Alex, I can gre with everyone.

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Speaker 11: I think that look, I think the American people want

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Speaker 11: to hear from the president. I think the American people

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Speaker 11: want to hear from the president live.

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Speaker 1: They want to know what's going on.

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Speaker 11: They want to hear from the man that they elected

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Speaker 11: that if this is the goal, they want to see

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Speaker 11: a live speech from him him from mar A Lago

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Speaker 11: or in the Oval Office, if that's possible to be

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Speaker 11: able to understand what's going on and what actions are

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Speaker 11: going to be taken. Should we take this as a

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Speaker 11: one day event, a one off event, or are we

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Speaker 11: going to see more? When you've got that many American soldiers, sailors, airmen, marines. Again,

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Speaker 11: each aircraft carrier carries five thousand American souls on it,

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Speaker 11: so that's ten thousand just there sitting off the coast.

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Speaker 11: And as these reports come out that Iran may have hypersonics, well,

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Speaker 11: what does a hypersonic missile do? Those are carrier killers,

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Speaker 11: that's what they're designed for. So with Americans and Harm's way,

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Speaker 11: everyone of course is praying for them. We are praying

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Speaker 11: for them, and the American people are going to want

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Speaker 11: to hear from the president.

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Speaker 1: There's no question.

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Speaker 6: Alex Marlow final words.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, that's great born from Jack.

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Speaker 14: I would love to see it and he does, he's

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Speaker 14: generally his best spokesperson and advocate, and everyone will pay

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Speaker 14: attention if he does make a formal address, because I

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Speaker 14: feel like that it'll get through the media filters, which

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Speaker 14: is it's just just completely sick what's going on on

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02:03:01,920 --> 02:03:03,880
Speaker 14: a lot of the networks. We're just trying to get

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Speaker 14: every single person to not give him any benefit of doubt,

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02:03:07,800 --> 02:03:10,040
Speaker 14: just to try to divide as much as possible this

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Speaker 14: obviously complicated stuff. War is very complicated. We're getting a

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Speaker 14: lot of flooding of Iranian propaganda into American media that

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Speaker 14: will be touted by our press in order to try

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Speaker 14: to harm our war effort. But it is a war effort.

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Speaker 14: It's not a war per se yet, and I hope

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Speaker 14: it doesn't get to that point. He obviously had a

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Speaker 14: high degree of confidence that aerial assaults would be effective

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Speaker 14: and taking out some high value targets, and I think

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Speaker 14: creating perhaps a leadership vacuum in a country that's already

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Speaker 14: very weak right now, both militarily and politically. And I

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Speaker 14: think we all can acknowledge that it'd be nice if

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Speaker 14: there was something else in there other than the Iyahtolas

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Speaker 14: in leading Iran, which does have a lot of Western

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Speaker 14: elements to it, and is big supporters of China, as

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Speaker 14: we've discussed multiple times now, So there's a lot of.

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Speaker 8: Upside here if this works.

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Speaker 14: The problem is is that we all have so much

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Speaker 14: scar tissue from things like this not working out, not

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Speaker 14: from President Trump but from prior price And even those

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Speaker 14: of us who are the biggest Trump supporters are imaginable,

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Speaker 14: I have that in the back of their mind right now.

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Speaker 14: So the more information that we can get, the better.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And I'll just say for now, the President's decided

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Speaker 4: to take action. He's shown us for over a decade

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Speaker 4: that he doesn't do endless wars. So we have to

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Speaker 4: trust and believe that that is the goal here as well,

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Speaker 4: that this will be a precision strike and that it

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Speaker 4: can be quick and surgical, that we don't have any

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Speaker 4: US casualties. That's the hope, and that's the prayer. And

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Speaker 4: so we pray for our troops, We pray for our leaders,

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Speaker 4: President Trump, jd Vance, Marco Rubio and on down. And

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Speaker 4: we will monitor the situation closely as the information comes on.

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Speaker 5: Monitor in the situations.

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Speaker 6: As the information comes online.

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Speaker 4: We may be back here in the studio before you

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Speaker 4: know it, but until then, thank you everybody who joined

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Speaker 4: the stream. Thank you to Real America's Voice for taking

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Speaker 4: it on their network. Alex marlow, Jack Besobic, Mike McCoy,

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Speaker 4: Blake Nepp, and my We'll talk to you soon and

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Speaker 4: pray for peace.

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Speaker 13: For more on many of these stories and news you

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Speaker 13: can trust, go to Charliekirk dot com