1 00:00:02,710 --> 00:00:03,690 Speaker 1: Life Audio. 2 00:00:05,830 --> 00:00:09,070 Speaker 2: Well, hello, welcome to this week's Out of Zion podcast. 3 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:13,340 Speaker 2: And I am your host, Dr. Susan Michael. And we're 4 00:00:13,380 --> 00:00:16,780 Speaker 2: in the middle of a series talking about the problem 5 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:22,820 Speaker 2: of antisemitism. And so last week, I shared the biblical 6 00:00:23,020 --> 00:00:27,660 Speaker 2: explanation for antisemitism. So it's so important that my Christian 7 00:00:27,820 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 2: audience understand that this is an evil spiritual force. And therefore, 8 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 2: we need to address it in prayer. But secondly, we 9 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 2: need to be very careful not to get caught up 10 00:00:40,090 --> 00:00:42,430 Speaker 2: in it. So if you haven't listened to last week's, 11 00:00:42,550 --> 00:00:46,209 Speaker 2: please go back and listen to last week's. It's very important. 12 00:00:47,050 --> 00:00:51,370 Speaker 2: This week, equally as important, I'm going to talk about 13 00:00:51,550 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 2: what makes some Christians vulnerable to anti-Semitism. I mean, you know, 14 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 2: we see it. We see Christians around us falling for this. 15 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:07,170 Speaker 2: and repeating things that they're hearing online. And it's very distressing. 16 00:01:07,230 --> 00:01:09,170 Speaker 2: So I want us to understand what are some of 17 00:01:09,230 --> 00:01:12,729 Speaker 2: the areas that make us vulnerable so that we can 18 00:01:12,790 --> 00:01:15,970 Speaker 2: guard against it and with our families and our churches 19 00:01:16,050 --> 00:01:16,750 Speaker 2: and our friends. 20 00:01:18,690 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 1: Let's take a break and hear a message from one 21 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:29,300 Speaker 1: of our sponsors. Welcome to the Israel Answers series, connecting Israel, 22 00:01:29,660 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 1: the Bible, and you. Join Susan Michael as she explores 23 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:37,540 Speaker 1: timely issues and current events from a scriptural perspective to 24 00:01:37,580 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: equip the Christian world with a balanced and biblical response. 25 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 1: Be sure to subscribe for future episodes, which will ignite 26 00:01:44,220 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 1: your faith and bring the Bible to life in your 27 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:50,900 Speaker 1: everyday world. Now, let's join Susan with your Israel answers. 28 00:01:54,700 --> 00:01:55,220 Speaker 2: All right, so. 29 00:01:57,580 --> 00:01:59,940 Speaker 2: I want to just make a comment before we get 30 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:04,020 Speaker 2: started here that last week I talked about the changing 31 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:09,220 Speaker 2: faces of anti-Semitism throughout history. And I talked about that today, 32 00:02:09,300 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 2: the prevalent face of anti-Semitism is a political one. It's 33 00:02:14,180 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 2: called anti-Zionism and it kind of focuses on Israel. And 34 00:02:18,220 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 2: then that makes the excuse to turn against the Jewish 35 00:02:22,660 --> 00:02:27,010 Speaker 2: people as a whole. There's another form of anti-Semitism that 36 00:02:27,050 --> 00:02:33,530 Speaker 2: was prevalent throughout centuries of history, and it was Christian anti-Semitism. 37 00:02:34,350 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 2: And I talked about it last week. The definition of 38 00:02:37,100 --> 00:02:43,139 Speaker 2: Christian anti-Semitism is when a professing Christian uses the Christian 39 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 2: scriptures to denigrate Jews and to repeat anti-Semitic tropes and slogans. 40 00:02:54,419 --> 00:02:58,380 Speaker 2: so you may think that's an oxymoron. You can't be 41 00:02:58,419 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 2: a Christian and be an anti-Semite. Oh, yes, you can. 42 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,460 Speaker 2: I wish it was that simple. I wish we could 43 00:03:06,500 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 2: say a true Christian would not be anti-Semitic. How could 44 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:16,220 Speaker 2: they be? Our Lord is Jewish. Jesus is the Jewish Messiah. 45 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 2: Our Bible is, most of it is the Hebrew Bible. 46 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:25,790 Speaker 2: How How could a Christian, a real Christian, be anti-Semitic? 47 00:03:25,810 --> 00:03:28,850 Speaker 2: So we're going to talk about that today, how it 48 00:03:28,889 --> 00:03:33,630 Speaker 2: could happen. First, we have to start with the theology 49 00:03:33,790 --> 00:03:38,940 Speaker 2: or the belief in what we call replacement theology. Replacement 50 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:42,580 Speaker 2: theology is any theology, it might be called something else, 51 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:48,230 Speaker 2: but any theology that assumes that that God's promises to 52 00:03:48,410 --> 00:03:51,870 Speaker 2: and his covenants with the Jewish people are no longer valid, 53 00:03:52,670 --> 00:03:56,010 Speaker 2: and that the church has replaced the Jewish people in 54 00:03:56,070 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 2: God's plans and purposes. That would be a replacement theology. 55 00:04:01,540 --> 00:04:07,870 Speaker 2: Replacement theology is once again gaining traction in the Christian world, 56 00:04:08,190 --> 00:04:13,330 Speaker 2: and it's very distressing. The problem is that it makes 57 00:04:13,370 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 2: the Christian vulnerable to anti-Semitism. Why? Because if you believe 58 00:04:19,260 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 2: that the Jews were so bad that they have been 59 00:04:22,100 --> 00:04:26,219 Speaker 2: rejected by God and they lost their covenants and their 60 00:04:26,260 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 2: standing with God, then you will believe just about anything 61 00:04:31,420 --> 00:04:34,750 Speaker 2: you hear about them. And you may even take it 62 00:04:34,870 --> 00:04:39,110 Speaker 2: up as a cause to repeat those things. So it's 63 00:04:39,150 --> 00:04:45,380 Speaker 2: a real source of vulnerability. Replacement theology was the theological 64 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:52,060 Speaker 2: foundation throughout most of Christian history for the Christian antisemitism 65 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:54,380 Speaker 2: to grow out of it. Let me say that again. 66 00:04:54,960 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 2: It was the theological foundation for centuries of Christian antisemitism. 67 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 2: It was so bad that many scholars agree that had 68 00:05:05,779 --> 00:05:11,430 Speaker 2: it not been for the centuries of Christian antisemitism, the 69 00:05:11,490 --> 00:05:16,870 Speaker 2: Holocaust could have never happened. Now, therefore, we need to 70 00:05:16,930 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 2: be very, very concerned about the growth of replacement theology 71 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 2: and learn how to refute it. We do not want 72 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:32,570 Speaker 2: to repeat that history. Very, very clear that the Apostle 73 00:05:32,630 --> 00:05:37,550 Speaker 2: Paul said in Romans 11, God had not rejected his people, 74 00:05:38,250 --> 00:05:40,729 Speaker 2: and he went on to say that that even though 75 00:05:40,770 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 2: they may be enemies of the gospel, but concerning their election, 76 00:05:46,940 --> 00:05:50,659 Speaker 2: they are beloved for the sake of the fathers. And 77 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:58,339 Speaker 2: then he said specifically, their calling is irrevocable. Their calling 78 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:03,060 Speaker 2: is irrevocable. So do not fall for this lie anymore. 79 00:06:03,610 --> 00:06:08,510 Speaker 2: that because the Jews rejected Jesus, God rejected them, and 80 00:06:08,550 --> 00:06:11,010 Speaker 2: it's all over for them, and they've been replaced with 81 00:06:11,070 --> 00:06:15,970 Speaker 2: the Christian church. It's just not the case. Thousands of 82 00:06:16,029 --> 00:06:21,150 Speaker 2: Jews accepted Jesus, and that was the ignition of the church. 83 00:06:21,890 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 2: It was by the Jews that accepted Jesus. Yes, there 84 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 2: were Jewish leaders that turned him over to the Romans 85 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:34,530 Speaker 2: for execution. That is true. That's historical record. But that's 86 00:06:34,570 --> 00:06:37,860 Speaker 2: not the end of the story. And so we need 87 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 2: to always go back to Romans 11 and the Apostle 88 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 2: Paul's words. Even though they may be the enemy to 89 00:06:50,460 --> 00:06:54,230 Speaker 2: the gospel, but for the sake of their election, they 90 00:06:54,310 --> 00:06:54,990 Speaker 2: are beloved. 91 00:06:57,110 --> 00:06:57,530 Speaker 1: All right. 92 00:06:57,910 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 2: God made promises to Abraham, to Moses, to David. he's 93 00:07:03,540 --> 00:07:06,740 Speaker 2: not going to break his promises. And many of those 94 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:12,540 Speaker 2: promises were unconditional. They were unconditional. All right, so that's 95 00:07:12,580 --> 00:07:17,980 Speaker 2: replacement theology. There's another area of vulnerability today, and that 96 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:23,940 Speaker 2: is growing biblical illiteracy. This is also leaving the church 97 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:28,350 Speaker 2: vulnerable to these lies about the Jewish people. And that's 98 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,950 Speaker 2: because we have generally American society is just far more 99 00:07:32,090 --> 00:07:34,210 Speaker 2: secular now than it used to be. Like when I 100 00:07:34,250 --> 00:07:37,210 Speaker 2: was growing up and we went to Sunday school and 101 00:07:37,590 --> 00:07:43,130 Speaker 2: the Bible stories, you've learned them. Today, our society doesn't 102 00:07:43,270 --> 00:07:48,730 Speaker 2: have that biblical foundation. And our churches are battling with it. 103 00:07:48,810 --> 00:07:51,910 Speaker 2: Our Christian schools are battling with it. One of the 104 00:07:52,030 --> 00:07:56,940 Speaker 2: core tenets of evangelical life Christianity is the belief in 105 00:07:57,060 --> 00:08:02,790 Speaker 2: scripture alone as the infallible source of doctrinal truth. However, 106 00:08:03,550 --> 00:08:08,070 Speaker 2: our pastors and our churches are combating this growing biblical 107 00:08:08,150 --> 00:08:12,070 Speaker 2: illiteracy in society, and it's producing a new generation of 108 00:08:12,150 --> 00:08:17,790 Speaker 2: Christians coming to church without that basic knowledge of the Bible. 109 00:08:18,450 --> 00:08:23,330 Speaker 2: they also are facing growing what I call biblical skepticism 110 00:08:23,450 --> 00:08:26,410 Speaker 2: in society. So a lot of our young people, they 111 00:08:26,450 --> 00:08:31,470 Speaker 2: grew up in secular schools and went to secular colleges 112 00:08:31,910 --> 00:08:36,860 Speaker 2: and the Christian faith and the Christian Bible were totally 113 00:08:37,050 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 2: beat up on every day. And many, many Christian students 114 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:43,820 Speaker 2: didn't want to be associated with it because of the 115 00:08:43,860 --> 00:08:47,190 Speaker 2: ridicule that they would go through. So they're skeptical of 116 00:08:47,230 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 2: the Bible also. They've heard all these accusations against it. 117 00:08:51,590 --> 00:08:55,890 Speaker 2: And so our churches and our schools are really battling 118 00:08:56,590 --> 00:09:03,370 Speaker 2: to bring a knowledge of and an appreciation of the Bible. So, 119 00:09:05,330 --> 00:09:09,460 Speaker 2: you know, as a result, we also have some of 120 00:09:09,550 --> 00:09:16,590 Speaker 2: our evangelical pastors are even compromising on things in the 121 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:21,050 Speaker 2: Bible because it's hard to convey to young people who 122 00:09:21,130 --> 00:09:28,410 Speaker 2: have this skepticism. And so we've had one major evangelical 123 00:09:28,450 --> 00:09:30,510 Speaker 2: leader that just came out and said, well, just forget 124 00:09:30,550 --> 00:09:35,230 Speaker 2: the Old Testament. It's irrelevant to the Christian faith. And 125 00:09:35,750 --> 00:09:38,710 Speaker 2: I mean, that's a core tenet of the evangelical faith 126 00:09:38,950 --> 00:09:42,130 Speaker 2: is the belief in the So because of this is 127 00:09:42,190 --> 00:09:47,599 Speaker 2: why I wrote my book, Encounter the 3D Bible, how 128 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 2: to read the Bible so it comes to life. Because 129 00:09:50,820 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 2: I saw that this younger generation, and it's not just them, 130 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:58,390 Speaker 2: it's all of us, need just a basic introduction to 131 00:09:58,450 --> 00:10:01,100 Speaker 2: the Bible so that when we start to read it, 132 00:10:01,150 --> 00:10:06,390 Speaker 2: we understand so much more about it. So first of all, 133 00:10:06,410 --> 00:10:08,970 Speaker 2: I tell the story of the Bible. What is the 134 00:10:09,030 --> 00:10:13,890 Speaker 2: story of the Bible from Genesis to Revelation? Once you 135 00:10:13,910 --> 00:10:17,390 Speaker 2: get the story and the timeline, then you can go 136 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:20,410 Speaker 2: in and you start studying, well, Who are the people 137 00:10:20,470 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 2: of the Bible? Who are the Jews? Who's the Christians? 138 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,940 Speaker 2: Who's the nations? How do these three groups, how are 139 00:10:26,980 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 2: they addressed in the Bible? Why is the land of 140 00:10:30,020 --> 00:10:33,740 Speaker 2: the Bible so important? What's that all about? Who's the 141 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 2: God of the Bible? Is it a different God in 142 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:39,290 Speaker 2: the Old Testament than the New? Of course not. But 143 00:10:39,410 --> 00:10:42,530 Speaker 2: I just give very simple explanations to a lot of 144 00:10:42,570 --> 00:10:46,849 Speaker 2: these things to help. So we have a free download 145 00:10:46,910 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 2: for you today. And it's a guide to how to 146 00:10:50,260 --> 00:10:53,530 Speaker 2: read the Bible. It's just a little introduction to some 147 00:10:53,570 --> 00:10:55,610 Speaker 2: of the material that's in that book. And then we 148 00:10:55,650 --> 00:10:58,189 Speaker 2: encourage you to also get the book. But please sign 149 00:10:58,309 --> 00:11:01,110 Speaker 2: up and get that free download. You might be able 150 00:11:01,130 --> 00:11:03,050 Speaker 2: to give it to some of the young people in 151 00:11:03,090 --> 00:11:06,020 Speaker 2: your family or in your church in your Bible study. 152 00:11:07,220 --> 00:11:12,140 Speaker 2: You know, I found it comical that Tucker Carlson, who 153 00:11:12,179 --> 00:11:16,610 Speaker 2: recently assaulted the biblical basis for support for Israel, he 154 00:11:16,660 --> 00:11:22,130 Speaker 2: called a heresy. He admitted he had only just read 155 00:11:22,170 --> 00:11:24,390 Speaker 2: through the Bible for the first time. And so I'm 156 00:11:24,530 --> 00:11:26,550 Speaker 2: kind of like, I think you need to read it 157 00:11:26,590 --> 00:11:30,089 Speaker 2: a few more times. But we all do, don't we? 158 00:11:30,390 --> 00:11:32,630 Speaker 2: And that's why I wrote that book, to help all 159 00:11:32,670 --> 00:11:34,940 Speaker 2: of us to be able to spend more time in 160 00:11:34,980 --> 00:11:39,460 Speaker 2: the Bible. Because if we think it's confusing or boring, 161 00:11:39,500 --> 00:11:41,820 Speaker 2: we're not going to want to read it. Actually, the 162 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:47,750 Speaker 2: Bible is so exciting. Once you understand these pieces, It 163 00:11:47,910 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 2: is so amazing. And so I invite you, please, get 164 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 2: that free download. 165 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:57,460 Speaker 1: Let's take a break and hear a message from one 166 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:04,660 Speaker 1: of our sponsors. Welcome back to the Out of Zion 167 00:12:04,700 --> 00:12:06,540 Speaker 1: podcast with Susan Michael. 168 00:12:06,820 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 2: Now, all right, so we just talked about replacement theology. 169 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:14,030 Speaker 2: We talked about biblical illiteracy. The next thing I want 170 00:12:14,050 --> 00:12:17,410 Speaker 2: to talk about is a new movement in the Christian 171 00:12:18,250 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 2: far right here in America. And it's called Christ is 172 00:12:23,100 --> 00:12:26,500 Speaker 2: King or the Dominion Movement. I want to talk about 173 00:12:26,540 --> 00:12:30,580 Speaker 2: it because it's getting a lot of followers from our 174 00:12:30,660 --> 00:12:37,989 Speaker 2: young people, especially white male Christians. And this is, it's 175 00:12:38,170 --> 00:12:43,750 Speaker 2: a movement, a radical Christian right movement. that's built on 176 00:12:43,990 --> 00:12:47,670 Speaker 2: what we call a post-millennial view of the return of Jesus. 177 00:12:47,790 --> 00:12:52,170 Speaker 2: And so it believes that Jesus will only return after 178 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:57,679 Speaker 2: the church has actually accomplished, you know, taking over society 179 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 2: and taking over the world and establishing a Christian kingdom 180 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 2: or a Christian nation. So this is real true Christian nationalism. Now, 181 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:14,580 Speaker 2: I know the term Christian nationalism is thrown around, especially 182 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:19,250 Speaker 2: by the liberals. They'll call all of us a Christian nationalist. 183 00:13:19,390 --> 00:13:22,250 Speaker 2: If you're a Christian and you're patriotic, they're going to 184 00:13:22,290 --> 00:13:25,670 Speaker 2: call you a Christian nationalist. I'm not talking about that. 185 00:13:25,950 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 2: That's not. This is true Christian nationalism where they believe 186 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:38,680 Speaker 2: in taking over in America and imposing... a Christian nation 187 00:13:39,140 --> 00:13:43,900 Speaker 2: on everyone. And so you might say, well, what does 188 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:47,189 Speaker 2: this have to do with Israel and the Jewish people? Well, 189 00:13:47,230 --> 00:13:52,550 Speaker 2: it's interesting because in this paradigm, it's the Jews that 190 00:13:52,590 --> 00:13:56,370 Speaker 2: are blamed for the church's failure in being able to 191 00:13:56,490 --> 00:14:03,380 Speaker 2: establish this Christian kingdom or Christian dominion for Jesus to return. 192 00:14:04,210 --> 00:14:04,570 Speaker 1: Why? 193 00:14:04,670 --> 00:14:07,950 Speaker 2: Well, they blame the Jews for all the ideologies in 194 00:14:07,990 --> 00:14:14,839 Speaker 2: the world like feminism, communism, Marxism, socialism, etc. So this 195 00:14:14,940 --> 00:14:18,959 Speaker 2: movement is very fertile ground for all kinds of conspiracy 196 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 2: theories about the Jews because they are seen as the 197 00:14:22,020 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 2: evil opposers to the coming of Christ by not allowing 198 00:14:26,700 --> 00:14:30,970 Speaker 2: this Christian nation to be established. So, I bring it 199 00:14:31,090 --> 00:14:34,650 Speaker 2: up because on social media we see this all the time. 200 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 2: We keep getting these comments back when we're posting. And 201 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:43,860 Speaker 2: all they'll say is Christ is king. Well, you know, 202 00:14:43,980 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 2: I believe Christ is king also. You probably do too. 203 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:52,260 Speaker 2: But that's not what they're talking about. They are saying 204 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:58,630 Speaker 2: Christ is king over the Jews. And the Jews are 205 00:14:58,670 --> 00:15:02,130 Speaker 2: going to be put down. And this Christian kingdom is 206 00:15:02,170 --> 00:15:06,780 Speaker 2: going to be established. So be on guard. All right. 207 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:12,460 Speaker 2: Another area that is making Christians vulnerable is that there's 208 00:15:12,500 --> 00:15:17,540 Speaker 2: a lot of accusations going around in social media that 209 00:15:17,660 --> 00:15:21,910 Speaker 2: the Jews hate Christians and the Jews are persecuting Christians. 210 00:15:22,850 --> 00:15:27,190 Speaker 2: And they tend to quote the Talmud on this. So 211 00:15:27,370 --> 00:15:30,450 Speaker 2: I just want to take a minute to explain What 212 00:15:30,810 --> 00:15:34,530 Speaker 2: is the Talmud? Well, it is not the Bible, okay? 213 00:15:35,170 --> 00:15:38,610 Speaker 2: So the Bible in Hebrew is called the Tanakh. It 214 00:15:38,650 --> 00:15:42,750 Speaker 2: stands for the Torah, the Prophets, and the Writings. So 215 00:15:42,830 --> 00:15:49,180 Speaker 2: that's the Tanakh. The Talmud is a massive compilation. It's 216 00:15:49,220 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 2: like 20 volumes long, 6,000 pages of opinions and commentary 217 00:15:57,180 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 2: and disagreements of thousands of rabbis on a variety of 218 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:09,150 Speaker 2: subjects like Jewish law, ethics, customs, folklore, history, many, many topics. 219 00:16:09,990 --> 00:16:13,630 Speaker 2: And there are some quotes buried deep in some of 220 00:16:13,670 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 2: there about Jesus or Christianity. Some are negative and they're genuine, 221 00:16:19,860 --> 00:16:22,739 Speaker 2: but there's others that are being taken out of context 222 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 2: and there are others that are just outright false lies. 223 00:16:26,420 --> 00:16:29,660 Speaker 2: So now, why would there be a negative comment about 224 00:16:29,700 --> 00:16:33,260 Speaker 2: Christianity in the Talmud? Well, I want you to remember 225 00:16:34,020 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 2: that some of this was written in the Middle Ages 226 00:16:38,500 --> 00:16:41,479 Speaker 2: when the church was the enemy of the Jewish people. 227 00:16:41,580 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 2: We were persecuting them. We were teaching contempt of the Jews. 228 00:16:46,620 --> 00:16:49,970 Speaker 2: Our state churches were led by the king of the state, 229 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:55,130 Speaker 2: and he was then putting into place anti-Jewish legislation because 230 00:16:55,170 --> 00:16:58,490 Speaker 2: of what the church was teaching. So we were the enemy, 231 00:16:59,030 --> 00:17:02,370 Speaker 2: and they did see Jesus in a very negative light. 232 00:17:02,830 --> 00:17:07,340 Speaker 2: So you have to understand the context of this. But remember, 233 00:17:07,710 --> 00:17:13,190 Speaker 2: the Talmud is not the Bible. Now, the second thing 234 00:17:13,210 --> 00:17:15,750 Speaker 2: that's being said is that if you go to Israel, 235 00:17:15,770 --> 00:17:18,260 Speaker 2: the Jews are spitting on the Christians. You see this 236 00:17:18,580 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 2: a lot. I just want to be very clear. There 237 00:17:22,500 --> 00:17:28,179 Speaker 2: is a small spitting problem, but it's very, very limited, 238 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 2: and it happens in the very close quarters of the 239 00:17:31,140 --> 00:17:36,880 Speaker 2: Old City, where this sect of highly religious, ultra-Orthodox Jews, 240 00:17:37,619 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 2: under the teaching of a certain rabbi, certain school of thought, 241 00:17:42,050 --> 00:17:45,939 Speaker 2: are still living in the Middle Ages. They're still living 242 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:49,699 Speaker 2: there where they believe that Christianity is their enemy and 243 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:53,820 Speaker 2: is out to kill them. And so, yes, they see 244 00:17:53,859 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 2: the Christians as unclean, and there may be an incident 245 00:17:57,359 --> 00:17:58,959 Speaker 2: of this, but I want you to know it is 246 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:02,940 Speaker 2: very limited. I've been going to Israel for 48 years 247 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:07,860 Speaker 2: and never had that happen, and that you know, there 248 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:12,180 Speaker 2: is a Jewish organization that is actually exposing this because 249 00:18:12,220 --> 00:18:15,740 Speaker 2: they said, this is not Jewish. This is unacceptable. So 250 00:18:15,820 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 2: they're the ones exposing it. It's not the Christians. And 251 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:24,609 Speaker 2: so don't fall for that one. So now that's our 252 00:18:24,690 --> 00:18:30,330 Speaker 2: fourth weakness. We've talked about replacement theology, biblical illiteracy, and 253 00:18:30,350 --> 00:18:36,310 Speaker 2: biblical skepticism. We talked about the Christ is King movement. 254 00:18:36,390 --> 00:18:39,470 Speaker 2: And now we've talked about these accusations that the Jews 255 00:18:39,530 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 2: hate Christians and this stuff. So I'm going to come 256 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 2: now to the fifth area of vulnerability. And this is 257 00:18:46,380 --> 00:18:50,919 Speaker 2: a very, very common accusation. And I'm sure every one 258 00:18:50,980 --> 00:18:54,290 Speaker 2: of you have heard it. And it's calling the Jews 259 00:18:55,010 --> 00:19:00,250 Speaker 2: Christ killers. Now, what is this talking about? This is 260 00:19:00,350 --> 00:19:04,830 Speaker 2: not talking about the historical narrative of the New Testament 261 00:19:04,890 --> 00:19:07,970 Speaker 2: that tells a story of what happened 2,000 years ago 262 00:19:08,630 --> 00:19:13,020 Speaker 2: when certain Jewish leaders turned Jesus over to the Romans 263 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 2: for execution. This is saying that Jews alive today are 264 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:24,820 Speaker 2: guilty for killing Christ. That's what it's saying. And that's absurd. 265 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 2: And do you know that for centuries, The most dangerous 266 00:19:28,859 --> 00:19:32,340 Speaker 2: day of the year for the Jewish people was Good 267 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:38,470 Speaker 2: Friday because in the churches, in the masses, the Christian 268 00:19:38,510 --> 00:19:43,750 Speaker 2: worshipers heard all these very bad things about the Jewish people. 269 00:19:43,810 --> 00:19:46,429 Speaker 2: And when they'd leave church and they're out in the 270 00:19:46,470 --> 00:19:52,220 Speaker 2: street going home, they would sometimes dance. persecute or attack 271 00:19:52,300 --> 00:19:58,399 Speaker 2: Jewish people as Christ killers. Thankfully, after the Holocaust, the 272 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:04,129 Speaker 2: Catholic Church re-evaluated and they changed their Good Friday liturgy. 273 00:20:05,330 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 2: But we do still have a tendency to to fall 274 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 2: for this and not rightly discern that what happened 2,000 275 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:17,570 Speaker 2: years ago is one thing. And yes, they would be 276 00:20:17,619 --> 00:20:20,770 Speaker 2: guilty of that 2,000 years ago. But you can't blame 277 00:20:20,869 --> 00:20:25,590 Speaker 2: every generation of Jews, including the Jews of today. So 278 00:20:25,630 --> 00:20:30,010 Speaker 2: we see this more and more online. We get lots 279 00:20:30,510 --> 00:20:33,790 Speaker 2: of comments about that they are Christ-killers. And why are 280 00:20:33,830 --> 00:20:38,189 Speaker 2: we supporting them? They're Christ-killers. So those are five areas 281 00:20:38,310 --> 00:20:42,030 Speaker 2: of vulnerability that I wanted to highlight today so that 282 00:20:42,050 --> 00:20:44,909 Speaker 2: we can all be on guard for these things in 283 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 2: our homes, in our churches, in our schools, in our friends, 284 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:55,420 Speaker 2: and really steer them away from that so that they're 285 00:20:55,460 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 2: not vulnerable to anti-Semitism. Now, you know, anti-Semitism is not 286 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 2: just a danger to the Jews. It's a danger to 287 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 2: the church, too, because if we allow anti-Semitism to take root, 288 00:21:09,970 --> 00:21:14,610 Speaker 2: what it does is it severs the church from its 289 00:21:14,690 --> 00:21:18,850 Speaker 2: Jewish roots. It severs us from the very people that 290 00:21:19,470 --> 00:21:25,590 Speaker 2: live out and demonstrate God's covenants and God's promises and 291 00:21:25,850 --> 00:21:29,730 Speaker 2: the very people that gave us the Bible. that gave 292 00:21:29,850 --> 00:21:33,120 Speaker 2: us the Messiah, that gave us the covenants, that we 293 00:21:33,230 --> 00:21:38,120 Speaker 2: learn all of this from them to understand who God is, 294 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 2: to understand how to have a relationship with him. We 295 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:43,880 Speaker 2: gain all of this. Everything we hold dear as Christians 296 00:21:44,380 --> 00:21:47,870 Speaker 2: comes from the Jewish people. And so if we allow 297 00:21:47,910 --> 00:21:51,230 Speaker 2: the church to become anti-Semitic, it will cut us off 298 00:21:51,730 --> 00:21:54,750 Speaker 2: from the very root that sustains us. And the Apostle 299 00:21:54,810 --> 00:21:59,740 Speaker 2: Paul warned against that. of being cut off because it 300 00:21:59,780 --> 00:22:05,360 Speaker 2: would mean spiritual death. We're supported by the root. That's 301 00:22:05,380 --> 00:22:10,140 Speaker 2: where we receive our sustenance. So the spiritual battle, again, 302 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:14,929 Speaker 2: in this evil ideology, it's our battle. And Jews and 303 00:22:14,970 --> 00:22:18,990 Speaker 2: Christians both will be destroyed if we don't wake up 304 00:22:19,210 --> 00:22:21,750 Speaker 2: to it. So it behooves us to do everything we 305 00:22:21,810 --> 00:22:25,959 Speaker 2: can to protect our churches and and to stand against 306 00:22:26,020 --> 00:22:29,780 Speaker 2: this evil. So once again, in today's show notes, we 307 00:22:29,820 --> 00:22:32,340 Speaker 2: have a free downloadable for you, how to read the 308 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:37,149 Speaker 2: Bible so it comes to life. And I just really 309 00:22:37,230 --> 00:22:39,909 Speaker 2: encourage you to go to the show notes. If we 310 00:22:39,930 --> 00:22:43,030 Speaker 2: don't have show notes on today's platform down below, go 311 00:22:43,670 --> 00:22:50,740 Speaker 2: to our website show notes at icejusa.org forward slash show. 312 00:22:51,980 --> 00:22:53,780 Speaker 2: And there you're going to find all the links for 313 00:22:53,859 --> 00:22:57,770 Speaker 2: all of our free downloadables and today's offer of how 314 00:22:57,810 --> 00:23:02,109 Speaker 2: to read the Bible so it comes to life. Next week, 315 00:23:02,450 --> 00:23:04,910 Speaker 2: I'm going to talk just a little bit more about 316 00:23:04,930 --> 00:23:11,369 Speaker 2: the problem of biblical illiteracy and some of the ramifications 317 00:23:11,670 --> 00:23:15,060 Speaker 2: of that. so that we can give that a bit 318 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:18,750 Speaker 2: more attention than we were able to today. All right, 319 00:23:18,850 --> 00:23:21,750 Speaker 2: so I look forward to seeing you back here next week, 320 00:23:22,050 --> 00:23:25,230 Speaker 2: and in the meantime, God bless. 321 00:23:26,770 --> 00:23:29,350 Speaker 1: We hope you have enjoyed this episode of Out of 322 00:23:29,410 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 1: Zion with Susan Michael. Be sure to subscribe to Out 323 00:23:33,100 --> 00:23:40,540 Speaker 1: of Zion now on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, Pray.com, Salem OnePlace, 324 00:23:41,140 --> 00:23:45,070 Speaker 1: Salem Life Audio, Out of Zion with Susan Michael is 325 00:23:45,109 --> 00:23:52,300 Speaker 1: a production of ICEJ USA, all rights reserved. This podcast 326 00:23:52,580 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 1: is presented in partnership with Life Audio. To explore a 327 00:23:56,800 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 1: wide range of faith-centered podcasts on prayer, Bible study, parenting, 328 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,400 Speaker 1: and more, visit lifeaudio.com.