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Now let's roll. 21 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 2: Hello everybody, and welcome back into the Built Different Podcast. 22 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 2: As always, I'll be your host today, doctor Zach Clinton. 23 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 2: In we're here in a boxing ring. I mean, we 24 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:11,759 Speaker 2: got punching bags all around us, and today we talked 25 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 2: a lot about fighting for religious freedom, fighting for our rights, 26 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 2: fighting for our bodies, fighting for our health. Today we 27 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 2: talked about fighting for our brain health. And there is 28 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 2: no better person in the world to have that conversation with. 29 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 1: And a dear friend, somebody that look up to. 30 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 2: He's been a role model, he's been somebody that has 31 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 2: invested in my life personally, but also just from Afar. 32 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 2: I just look up to this man in so many ways. 33 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 2: Doctor Daniel Aman, you're very familiar with the name. I 34 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 2: know you probably are, but if you're not, this is 35 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 2: the leading I would say, this neuroscientist, brain health expert, 36 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 2: psychiatrist in the world, somebody that God is continuing to 37 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 2: use in mighty ways. And we're going to talk about 38 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 2: a whole flour program today and what that looks like, 39 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 2: some of the challenges that are facing society and culture 40 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 2: that are facing brain health, but also some of the 41 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 2: solutions to get people back to the healthiest place that 42 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 2: they could be. Doctor Danielabe and my friend, thank you 43 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 2: for joining me. 44 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 3: I'm so proud of you, Zach. Thank you watch you 45 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 3: grow and grow and make a difference in the lives 46 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 3: of so many people. And I think it's that one 47 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:16,799 Speaker 3: clip we did that ended up with like fifty million views. 48 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 3: It was my most viral clip. Don't do everything for 49 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 3: your children. 50 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: That's right, don't do everything for your children. 51 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 2: We'll talk a little bit about that today, Doc, But 52 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 2: what I want to touch on just upfront is you 53 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 2: have so many different roles, so many different responsibilities. I 54 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 2: know that you're all over the place now. You're making 55 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 2: an impact just in culture and society at large, not 56 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 2: just the individual life, but. 57 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: Over mass population groups. 58 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 2: And so with what God has opened doors for you 59 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 2: even here recently, I'm just interested what excites you the 60 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 2: most since the last time we sat down together. What 61 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 2: have you been doing that you feel like me and 62 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 2: God is using to have the greatest impact. 63 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 3: So Pastor Paula White came to see me because your 64 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 3: dad referred her to me, and she got so much 65 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 3: better that she's like, you know, I may be in 66 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 3: the White House and I want to take your work 67 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 3: to every American. And I'm like, And she asked me 68 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 3: this one question that no one had ever asked me before. 69 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 3: She goes, how big can you think? And I'm like, 70 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 3: I can think big. How about the decade of brain 71 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 3: health nineteen nineties, George bush One declared the nineteen nineties 72 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 3: the Decade of the Brain, and that brought more money 73 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 3: for neuroscience and more focused to the brain, and that 74 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 3: was a really great thing. But ultimately, it's the health 75 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 3: of your brain that determines how happy you are, how 76 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 3: connected you are, how much money you make, how long 77 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 3: you live. It's really the quality of your life goes 78 00:03:56,080 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 3: to the direct physical health of your brain. And one 79 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 3: of the programs I'm really excited about is called the 80 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 3: Aim and Whole four. My first week of medical school, 81 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 3: I went to medical school at Oral Roberts University and 82 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 3: Sid Garrett was our dean. He comes into the room 83 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 3: and he draws four big circles on the board. He goes, 84 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 3: never think of your patients as their diagnosis. Always think 85 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 3: of them in these four circles. And the first one 86 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 3: is biological. And we're in a brain body biological crisis 87 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 3: in this country with Alzheimer's expected to triple in the 88 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 3: next thirty years. Fifty percent of the population is diabetic 89 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 3: or prediabetic. Wow, seventy five percent of us are overweight 90 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 3: or OBESEI I published three brain imaging studies on thirty 91 00:04:56,279 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 3: three thousand people that showed as your weight goes up, 92 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 3: the actual physical size and function of your brain goes down, 93 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 3: which should scare the fat of anyone if you think 94 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 3: when I figured that out, I lost twenty pounds because like, no, 95 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 3: I'm not being chubby if that is in fact bad 96 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 3: for my brain. So we're in this biological crisis, but 97 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 3: we're also in a psychological crisis. You know. The second circle, 98 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:30,280 Speaker 3: doctor Garrett Drew, He said, you have to think of 99 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 3: your patient's minds, how they think their development. And we're 100 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 3: in a psychiatric crisis, right, of mental health crisis that 101 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 3: is so scary, with twenty five percent of the adult 102 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 3: population on psychiatric drugs, epidemics of anxiety, depression, ADHD, autism, 103 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 3: addiction before the pandemic, right and then everything got dramatically 104 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 3: were not only the fear and the bad policy, but 105 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 3: the virus itself activates your emotional brain. It makes you 106 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 3: more at risk for anxiety and depression. So biological crisis, 107 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 3: psychological crisis. And the third circle, he drew, was the 108 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 3: social circle. It's like, how's their job, how's their marriage, 109 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 3: what's going on in their life? And we are lonelier 110 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 3: and more isolated than ever before. And the Surgeon General 111 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 3: put out a report recently that said, if you're lonely, 112 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 3: and fifty eight percent of Americans report being significantly lonely, 113 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 3: it has the same health effect of smoking fifteen cigarettes 114 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 3: a day. Biological, psychological, social, spiritual, and fifty eight percent 115 00:06:56,680 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 3: of young people lack a sense of meaning and purpose. 116 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 3: Now not you. And you know how that just like 117 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 3: gets you up in the morning that I'm going to 118 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 3: make a difference and I'm going to learn something new 119 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 3: that you're engaged in your life. But if fifty eight 120 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 3: percent of young people are not engaged in their life 121 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 3: but their noses in their phone, right, that is only 122 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 3: driving anxiety and depression further. So we have this whole 123 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 3: for our crisis. But here's the headline. Here's the thing 124 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 3: I'm most excited. I believe the answer to these epidemics 125 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 3: is not to see them as separate disorders, but as 126 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 3: different expressions of the same unhealthy lifestyle and toxic exposures 127 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 3: that have exactly the same cure. Wow, and that's what 128 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 3: I call our aiman whole for solution, where through faith 129 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 3: based organizations because you know, most psychiatrists they're not touching 130 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 3: the spiritual circle. And you know they were taught Oh, 131 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 3: that's sort of a crutch. Why would I talk about 132 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 3: your belief in God or why you're on the planet. 133 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 3: But if you don't believe in God, it triples your 134 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 3: risk of depression. And it makes sense, right if you 135 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 3: just think we're here by random chance out of an 136 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 3: explosion that happened billions of years ago, that there's really 137 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 3: no meaning purpose to my life, well, that's depressing. 138 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 1: That's depressing. 139 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 3: And there is not one thing in my education as 140 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 3: a doctor is an Euroscientists that makes me not believe 141 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 3: in God because the brain is so beautifully and wonderfully made, 142 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:53,199 Speaker 3: and I just I don't believe our relationship over the 143 00:08:53,320 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 3: years is by random chance. And and fifteen years ago, 144 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 3: I went to my church in southern California and I 145 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:09,079 Speaker 3: just finished writing Change Your Brain, Change Your Body, which 146 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 3: is my second book on the connection between physical health 147 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 3: and mental health. And I was so happy that morning 148 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 3: until I got to church and I walked by hundreds 149 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 3: of donuts for sale for charity, and I felt like 150 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 3: someone just slugged me in the face. I'm going to 151 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 3: church to get my soul fed. These people are trying 152 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 3: to kill me because there's not one healthy thing about donuts, 153 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 3: and right around the donuts with bacon and sausage cooking 154 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:40,599 Speaker 3: on the grill in the grease, and like felt like 155 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 3: I got hit again. And then I went right before 156 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 3: I went into the sanctuary ites, this monster big church 157 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 3: at Newport Beach where I live, and saw them cooking 158 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 3: hundreds of hot dogs. And there's not one healthy thing 159 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 3: about a hot not at all. And then as I 160 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 3: sat down, the minister started talking about the ice cream 161 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 3: festival they had the night before. And when Tana, my wife, 162 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 3: found me in church because she dropped Chloe, our daughter, 163 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 3: off at children's church, typing on my phone and she 164 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 3: hates that because she thinks of the phone as the 165 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:15,679 Speaker 3: other woman, and so I showed her what I was typing. 166 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:21,079 Speaker 3: Go to church, get doughnuts, bacon, sausage, hot dogs, ice cream. 167 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 3: They have no idea. They're sending people to Heaven early, 168 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 3: save them, then kill them. I'm like, this is not 169 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 3: the plan, and so I prayed God would use me 170 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 3: to change the culture of food at church. And while 171 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:41,319 Speaker 3: I'm praying this, I'm like, that's the dumbest prayer you've 172 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 3: ever prayed. How is that ever going to happen? And 173 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:48,079 Speaker 3: you're not connected to church in that way, and I'm like, 174 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 3: it's my prayer, God deal with it. And then two 175 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 3: weeks later, Pastor Rick Warren from Settleback Church called me 176 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 3: and I'd never met Pastor Warren. He'd seen me on TV. 177 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 3: He read my book Akali add and he said, I'm fat, 178 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 3: my church is fat. You help me, and together we 179 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 3: created the Daniel Plan, a program to get the world 180 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 3: healthy through churches, and thousands of churches did our program 181 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 3: and I saw the power. But Pastor Warren only saw 182 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 3: that for a season. It's like, oh, let's lose fifty pounds, 183 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 3: and I'm like, no, this is a program, It's a lifestyle. 184 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 3: Keep doing yes, because health is your daily decision. And ultimately, 185 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 3: so I'm doing with the White House the Decade of 186 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 3: Brain Health and creating a national brain health revolution, all 187 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 3: based on one question, because you know, I've been doing 188 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 3: this a long time and I'm always thinking, how can 189 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 3: I make it simple, simple, easy to do. One question 190 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 3: is whatever I'm doing right now good for my brain 191 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 3: or bad for it? And does it make the world better? 192 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 3: There's so much in that question, but ultimately, is what 193 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 3: I had for lunch good for my brain or bad? 194 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 3: For it to stand up late scrolling on your phone? 195 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 3: Is that good for your brain or bad for it? 196 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:29,559 Speaker 3: Bad for it? Saying something rude to my wife good 197 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:34,599 Speaker 3: for my brain or bad? Way too much stress? It 198 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:38,199 Speaker 3: has gone for a walk. It's good for my brain. 199 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:42,839 Speaker 3: And if I can just make decisions and answer that 200 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 3: question with information and love, love of myself, love of 201 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 3: my family, love of the reason God put me on earth, 202 00:12:53,440 --> 00:13:01,079 Speaker 3: just make better decisions. And that's the idea behind the 203 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 3: Whole four And we have seventy seven pilot sites starting 204 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 3: why this month. And I'm so excited yeacause I think 205 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 3: this is the reason God put me on earth. 206 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 2: I'm gonna stop this right there and jump into say 207 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 2: you're listening to build different. 208 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 1: I'm Zach Clinton. 209 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 2: We need to break for a brief message from our sponsors. 210 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:22,680 Speaker 2: I'll be back with our guests to keep the conversation 211 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 2: flowing right after this. 212 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 1: You're listening to Life Audio. 213 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:28,839 Speaker 3: Amen. 214 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 2: It's an incredible mission, it's an incredible vision, it's an 215 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 2: incredible purpose, and doctor Amon, God is clearly continuing to 216 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 2: use you with this aim and Whole four plan. I 217 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 2: can't wait to unpack it a little bit deeper. But 218 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 2: I want to get to the solutions with you. Like 219 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 2: you said, there's so many problems in these four different buckets, 220 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 2: but the biological solutions. Like you said, when that massive 221 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 2: majority of the population here in the West, in the 222 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 2: United States and North America are obese or overweight, it's like, 223 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 2: there are some things that we can be doing every day, 224 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 2: some decisions that we can be making, whether it's nutritional, 225 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 2: whether it's being physical fit, whether it's movement, whatever it is. 226 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 2: What would you say or just I'm just thinking to 227 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 2: somebody out there today that's saying, I want to health 228 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 2: your brain, I want a healthier life, I want to 229 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:13,079 Speaker 2: health your body. What are some first steps for somebody 230 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 2: that maybe hasn't invested in that level of health before. 231 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 3: So it's that one question. It's just such a simple question, 232 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 3: is what am I doing? Is it good for my 233 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 3: brain or bad for it? And quite frankly, most seven 234 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 3: year olds would get a ninety percent on the test. 235 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 3: And I went to my daughter's second grade class, so 236 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 3: seven years old, and I wrote twenty things on the board. 237 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 3: I go separate these for me good for your brain 238 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 3: or bad for it? Gratitude good for your brain, playing 239 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 3: football bad for your brain. Smoking cigarettes bad for your brain, 240 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 3: drinking alcohol bad for your brain, marijuana They were not ambivalent, 241 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 3: like society is, yes, not bad for your brain, talking 242 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 3: back to your redheaded bad for the only one they 243 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 3: missed was orange juice, which they put in a good 244 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 3: category because it's a market. But it's in the bad 245 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 3: category because whenever you unwrap fruit juice fructose from its 246 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 3: fiber source, it actually turns toxic in your body. So 247 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 3: bad for your brain. And you just have to start knowing. 248 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 3: And I recommend you play the game I played with 249 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 3: Chloe when she was little. We called it Chloe's game? 250 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 3: Is this good for your brain or bad for it? 251 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 3: And so if I said avocados should go two thumbs up, 252 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 3: God's butter. If I said blueberries, she put a little 253 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 3: hands on her hips and go are they organic? Because 254 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 3: non organic berries hold more pesticides than almost any other fruit? Like, 255 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 3: of course they're organic. She goes, good for your brain, 256 00:15:54,240 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 3: God's candy, And it's we just need to teach kids 257 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 3: to love and tear yes for their brain. What's good yep, 258 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 3: and what's not good? And so many people go but 259 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 3: everything in moderation, absolutely not. That's the gateway thought to 260 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 3: cheat as soon as you go everything in moderation. You're 261 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 3: going for the ice cream, you're going for the brownie, 262 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 3: you're going for the cooky, You're going for something. It's 263 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 3: going to increase your risk of diabetes and obesity. 264 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I'm even just thinking about that question. 265 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 2: Like you said, it's so simple, but it's so profound 266 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 2: and it's so powerful. Is this good for my brain? 267 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 2: Or is this bad for my brain? When it comes 268 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 2: to food, doctor, Amon, I know this just with fast food, 269 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 2: with sugar and different things like this. It has an 270 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 2: impact on the brain where it's almost like impulsive, where 271 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 2: it just lures us back. And for some people it's 272 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 2: like magnetic. It's like an addiction. Quite literally, how do 273 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 2: we begin, right? I know we answer that question, But why, 274 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 2: I guess is it so hard for us to get 275 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 2: out of that looping cycle where we get it's so 276 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 2: fixated on this because it's like I know the answer, doctor, Like, 277 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 2: I know that's not good for me, But why do 278 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 2: I keep going back to it? What would you say 279 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 2: to that person? 280 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 3: It's it's about love and they are all these wonderful 281 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:17,880 Speaker 3: little questions with the aim and hole for absolutely and 282 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 3: The question for food is do I love food that 283 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:27,679 Speaker 3: loves me back? Because you're in a relationship, you know. 284 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 3: I love French fries, I love ice cream, I love brownies. 285 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 3: They hate me, that's right. And I don't know if 286 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 3: you've ever been in a bad relationship. I have. I 287 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 3: have to, and I'm not doing it anymore. I'm married 288 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 3: my best friend and I'm for certain not doing it 289 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 3: with food. Yes, and so, I might look at the 290 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 3: ice cream and God, love you now, but I'm not 291 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:56,400 Speaker 3: going to love you later. I love you, but you 292 00:17:56,480 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 3: hate me. And so making that daily decision, and we're 293 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 3: all creatures of habit and so, and I have a 294 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:09,439 Speaker 3: sweet tooth. My grandfather was a candymaker and I'm named 295 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 3: after him. And he was my best friend when I 296 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 3: was growing up, but now he died early. He left 297 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:24,120 Speaker 3: me early because he made bad decisions around sugar. And so, 298 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 3: but I make brain healthy hot chocolate every night, which 299 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 3: is rock cow, unsweetened almond milk and a little bit 300 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 3: of stevia, put it in a blender. It's like fifty calories, 301 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:44,919 Speaker 3: so it's calorie smart and tastes great. I love it. 302 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:48,919 Speaker 3: It loves me back, and we're creatures of habit. If 303 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 3: you're just playing twenty things you love that love you back, 304 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 3: and it needs to be calorie smart, right. A lot 305 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:00,040 Speaker 3: of people go, oh, calories don't count. It's like, do 306 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 3: failed chemistry calories? Absolutely, but the quality of your calories 307 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 3: actually matter more. I mean, you'll lose weight on an 308 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 3: eight hundred calorie Twinkie diet, but you also have cancer 309 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 3: and be incredibly sick. 310 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 1: Exactly do you love food that loves you back? 311 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 2: That's the biological component here, the psychological doc I'm just 312 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 2: thinking about. 313 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 1: Even your book, Change your Brain, Change your Pain. 314 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 2: I've sat down with people that have had chronic pain 315 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:33,919 Speaker 2: in the past physically, and a lot of times they 316 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:37,119 Speaker 2: developed this negative expectation where they wake up every single 317 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 2: morning and it's like, I just know what to expect, 318 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,400 Speaker 2: I'm gonna feel this way. They develop this pessimism, kind 319 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:45,160 Speaker 2: of this doom loop where it's just like this pit 320 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 2: of despair, this rumination, pathological obsession with their pain, and 321 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 2: it's difficult for them to actually understand. I was just 322 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 2: sitting down with Russell Johnson. He said that victory has 323 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 2: a vocabulary. It's the idea that man, we need to 324 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 2: be thinking right as tewod Corinthians tent Philippians for eight. 325 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 2: Having that expectation, clinging to hope, changing our thought processes 326 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:08,679 Speaker 2: so that way, potentially we can develop these different mental 327 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 2: ruts for the good just as we can for the bad, 328 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:14,160 Speaker 2: and neuroplasticity can begin to kick in. So I'm interested 329 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 2: for you just what are some of the healthiest tips 330 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:20,439 Speaker 2: and tactics you might give somebody psychologically to develop the 331 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 2: healthiest brain and body that they could have moving forward. 332 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 3: So the first thing, and we've talked about this before, 333 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 3: it's killing the ants, the automatic negative thoughts that steal 334 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 3: your happiness. They perpetuate the doom loop. And so another question, 335 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 3: is it true whenever you feel sad, mad, nervous, or 336 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 3: out of control like damn what you're thinking? Is it true? 337 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 3: And the aiminhole for is really based on Romans twelve 338 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:56,439 Speaker 3: one and two that getting healthy is worship and be 339 00:20:56,680 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 3: transformed by the renewing of your mind. And all Christian 340 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:03,479 Speaker 3: know that verse, but they don't know the second half 341 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 3: of that verse, which is then you contest to see 342 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 3: if it fits God's good, pleasing and perfect will. Does 343 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 3: this thought fit God's good, perfect and pleasing will, and 344 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 3: most of the bad thoughts absolutely don't. And I want 345 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 3: to be in the center of God's will, which means 346 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 3: I've got to transform my mind and think on whatever 347 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 3: is true, right, lovely, worthy of praise, whippings for a 348 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 3: let your mind dwell on these things. So don't believe 349 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 3: every stupid thing you think. Absolutely But one of the 350 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 3: fun ones that I don't know if you and I 351 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 3: have talked about before is the rule of twelve. Have 352 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:57,439 Speaker 3: we talked about the rule of. 353 00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:59,400 Speaker 2: No but I saw you posted about it. I think 354 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 2: just recently. I would love to read on packet. 355 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,639 Speaker 3: Oh. I love the Role of twelve. It's based on 356 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 3: a concept of psychological flexibility, is associated with psychological help. 357 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 3: And so many people one thing goes wrong and they 358 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 3: lose their minds. And I took Tanna to Paris for 359 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:23,159 Speaker 3: two weeks for fiftieth birthday, so seven years ago, and 360 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 3: I just noticed sometimes we'd go on vacation, something bad 361 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,159 Speaker 3: would happen and it would like sort of mess up 362 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 3: the day. And I'm like, I noticed that, So I 363 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 3: told Tana, I said, why don't we promise ourselves we're 364 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 3: going for two weeks, twelve things are going to go wrong. 365 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 3: Let's just promise ourselves we're not going to be upset 366 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 3: until the thirteenth thing goes wrong. And if the thirteenth 367 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 3: thing goes wrong, then we can scream and yell and 368 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:55,640 Speaker 3: act like four year old children. And three things went 369 00:22:55,680 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 3: wrong and nobody was upset the whole time. And I 370 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 3: came home and I posted on it. I got like 371 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 3: ten million responses, and I teach all of my patients 372 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:11,719 Speaker 3: the rule of twelve. It's like, you are competent, you 373 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 3: are a problem solver. You have solved so many problems 374 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 3: in your life. Stop letting the little things steal. That's 375 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 3: the thief right that comes to steal and kill and destroy. 376 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 3: And I want you to be flexible. And my patients 377 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 3: just like get it immediately. It's like, oh, I don't 378 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:37,439 Speaker 3: have to be upset about that. I am flexible. So 379 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 3: identify with the flexibility absolutely. 380 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 2: And I like what you said, the rule of twelve, 381 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 2: where you're allowing space for you know, these things to 382 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 2: potentially go wrong and not making them over dramatic. But 383 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 2: at the same time, I know we've talked a lot 384 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 2: about just this act of gratitude. You always talk about 385 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 2: going to sleep at night and going on a treasure 386 00:23:56,440 --> 00:24:00,160 Speaker 2: hunt what went well today and looking for the thing 387 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,919 Speaker 2: that went right. That way, we're not just waiting for 388 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 2: the things that went wrong. Gratitude really really matters. I 389 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 2: know that doctor talk to us now about the social 390 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,439 Speaker 2: aspects of life, and this is where something you and 391 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 2: I have never talked about, but I know loneliness is 392 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 2: this islent epidemic, and it's the undiagnosed diseases that are 393 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 2: always the most dangerous and deadly. Like you mentioned the 394 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,919 Speaker 2: stats about fifteen cigarettes a day, loneliness is quite literally 395 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 2: killing people. But for our next generation, because of this 396 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 2: device right here, and parents we talked about us a 397 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 2: little bit, are putting it in child's hands. I've seen 398 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 2: two and three year olds that are able to literally 399 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 2: swipe no on phone calls, open up YouTube, click on 400 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,439 Speaker 2: whatever show they want. Two year olds, three year olds, right, 401 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 2: it's fascinating to me, younger than. 402 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 3: That nine month old grandson. Unbelievable parents. And this was 403 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 3: before we knew the toxicity. Yes, that he figured out 404 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,439 Speaker 3: and then was just fascinated with it every time I 405 00:24:56,520 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 3: saw him. Oh yeah, you know, pop pop phone, pop 406 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 3: up phone? Right, No, it became Bob Bob phone. No, yes, 407 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 3: and you know, and I'm smart enough not to give in, 408 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 3: but it was clearly it is clearly addictive. And the 409 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 3: younger kids get phones, the higher risk of suicide they 410 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 3: have in their twenties. In fact, if a child got 411 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 3: a phone at five, at fifty percent risk five zero 412 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:35,239 Speaker 3: percent risk well having suicidal thoughts in their twenties. Not 413 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 3: one thing about that is okay, one thing we need 414 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 3: to be cautious. But the question, yes, with the social circle, 415 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 3: do you notice what you'll like about other people more 416 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 3: than what you don't like, because ultimately we're training other 417 00:25:56,320 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 3: people by what we pay attention to. And I don't 418 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,400 Speaker 3: know if we've ever talked about I collect penguins, and 419 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 3: I have way more than this rational for anyone. But 420 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 3: it was almost forty years ago. Was forty years ago. 421 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 3: I took my son and I adopted my oldest. He 422 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 3: was hard for me, and my supervisor I'm in training 423 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 3: at the time, says you have to spend more time 424 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 3: with him, which was sort of the last thing I 425 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 3: wanted to do. But I took him to a place 426 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 3: called Sea Life Park, which is in Hawaii where we 427 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:34,159 Speaker 3: were living at the time, and they had like great 428 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 3: sea animal shows like a whale show and a dolphin 429 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 3: and a sea lion show. And at the end of 430 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 3: the day he grabs my shirt and he goes, I 431 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,360 Speaker 3: want to see Fat Freddy. Like, who's fat Freddy. It's 432 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:49,479 Speaker 3: like the penguin, Dad, don't you know anything? And so 433 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 3: we went. There was one more show at the end 434 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 3: of the day and this little humble, chubby penguin comes 435 00:26:55,480 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 3: on to the stage bows and then goes and as 436 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 3: the latter to high dive and goes to the end 437 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 3: of the board and bounces and then jumps in the 438 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:09,239 Speaker 3: water and I'm like, whoa. Then he gets out of 439 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 3: the water, he bowls with his dose, counts with this flipper, 440 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 3: jumps through up a fire. I got my arm around 441 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 3: my son, thinking I'm a good dad, and just blown away. 442 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,400 Speaker 3: And then the trainer asked Freddy to go get something, 443 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,439 Speaker 3: and Freddy went and got it and he brought it 444 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:29,199 Speaker 3: right back, and in my mind, time stood still, because 445 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,679 Speaker 3: in my mind, I'm like, I asked this kid to 446 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 3: get something for me, and he wants to have a 447 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 3: discussion for like twenty minutes. And I knew my son 448 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 3: was smarter than the penguin, And so you know I'm 449 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 3: a child's kiatree fellow. At the time, I don't know anything, 450 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 3: and so I go up to the trainer. I said, 451 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,360 Speaker 3: howd you get Freddy to do all these really cool things? 452 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 3: And she looked at my son, and then she looked 453 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 3: at me and she said, i'mlike parents. Whenever Freddy does 454 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 3: anything like what I want him to do, I notice him. 455 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 3: I give him a hug, and I give him a fish. 456 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 3: And the light went on in my head that even 457 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 3: though my son didn't like raw fish, my daughter does that. 458 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 3: Whenever he did what I wanted him to do, I 459 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 3: didn't pay any attention to him because I was like 460 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 3: my own dad. I was busy, But when he didn't 461 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 3: do what I wanted him to do, I gave him 462 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 3: a lot of attention because I didn't want to raise 463 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:27,440 Speaker 3: bad kids, so I was inadvertently reinforcing his bad behavior. 464 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:34,679 Speaker 3: So I collect penguins to just remind me, notice what 465 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 3: you like more than what you don't like. And that 466 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 3: principle works so well in relationships. But that's not what's 467 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 3: being modeled on social media. It's not being what's modeled 468 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 3: in the news. It's not being what's modeled on television, 469 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 3: you just see because they're trying to create drama, they 470 00:28:54,320 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 3: model ineffective behavior. That then the population models makes sense. 471 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 3: And so if you notice because if tantic, because you 472 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 3: know my wife Tanna, if we're fighting, clearly I could 473 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 3: go to what I don't like and it's so ineffective, 474 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 3: or I just go to what I do like about her, 475 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 3: and that is so powerful and can shift a negative 476 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 3: moment to a loving moment. And if that's your pattern, 477 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 3: notice what you like more than what you don't. Your 478 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 3: relationships change in such a positive way. And you also 479 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 3: are less lonely because what does someone else really want 480 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 3: from you? They want you to notice this. 481 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:47,959 Speaker 1: Then that's right. 482 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 3: And if it's not about you or your politics, but 483 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 3: you're curious about them, people want that. 484 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 2: That's how you so taking a genuine interest in other people, 485 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 2: noticing what you like about them rather than what you don't. 486 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then active listening. You know, what they teach 487 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 3: us is therapists yep to do. But it's clearly not 488 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 3: modeled on TV or on social media. It's always talking 489 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:24,719 Speaker 3: over people, interrupting people, and I'm like, that's not going 490 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 3: to get you connected. 491 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 2: So powerful, we need people more than ever. There's power 492 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 2: in partnership, there's comfort and companionship. And I want to 493 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 2: kind of close this way, Doc, because I know you 494 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 2: got to get to a panel discussion here in a moment, 495 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 2: But also what I want to close on is the 496 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 2: spiritual component and how potentially this aim and hole for 497 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 2: can really continue to impact and influence the Big C 498 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 2: Church at large, because we know this that ninety percent 499 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 2: of the human population believe that there is a God, 500 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 2: but yet less than seventy percent I would say maybe 501 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 2: upward to seven ndred percent of therapists are not trained 502 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 2: in incorporating spirituality within therapy and more. And so there's 503 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 2: a massive gap here between those that are spiritually curious 504 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 2: and they actually want to incorporate spirituality and faith in 505 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 2: the midst of therapy or therapeutic alignment because it produces 506 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 2: potentially greater therapeutic outcomes. But then there's people that are 507 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 2: afraid of potentially aligning those things. When we know this 508 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 2: that faith has a significant impact. You talked about it 509 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 2: meaning and purpose on health, brain health, bodily health, relational health, 510 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 2: so much more. Speak to just the faith factor here 511 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 2: for a moment and how it potentially helps lead to 512 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 2: the flourishing life. 513 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 3: So the question is am I living in a way 514 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 3: that honors God and the reason I'm on the planet? 515 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 3: And am I living in a way? And I'd love 516 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 3: that so much because it goes you're created for a 517 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 3: purpose to do, to help make the world a better place. 518 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 3: And in the center of faith, it's admitting I am 519 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 3: the child of God and I am fearfully and wonderfully made, 520 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 3: and I love that. And as I ask my patience, 521 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 3: so why are you on the planet? Many of them 522 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 3: have never thought about that. If you think about that, 523 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 3: if it's all about you, it's sort of depressing. Yeah, 524 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 3: And I've seen some of the world's most famous people 525 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 3: that have hundreds of millions of followers, and when it's 526 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 3: all about them, do you know what they say? And 527 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 3: they all have the same thought. It's you know, I 528 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 3: think of it as the mother toxic thought, I'm not 529 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 3: enough m hm. And so if Justin Bieber and Miley 530 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 3: Cyrus and I'm not enough. I looked at Miley, I'm like, 531 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 3: so who would be enough? I Mean, it's like, how 532 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 3: does that happen? And it's this craziness of constant comparison 533 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 3: to other people. 534 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 2: We need to be reminded of who we are because 535 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 2: ultimately of whose we are, right that the Creator created 536 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 2: us in the likeness of his image so that we 537 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 2: might have a relationship with God, so that we might 538 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 2: then understand the meaning and purpose of life. And as 539 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 2: my pastor likes to say, it lose right to where 540 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 2: you were saying, doctor that if it's all about you, 541 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 2: it's all about over And so the recognition that we 542 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 2: need people, we need relationships now more than ever, Doctor Amon, 543 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 2: What can our audience be doing to potentially get plugged 544 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 2: in to the aim and Hold four program, the plan, 545 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 2: just the different solutions that you talked about. Where can 546 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 2: they find out more about you? Because again, I know 547 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 2: that our audience is very committed to the process of 548 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 2: health and I know they love you with an overwhelming 549 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 2: sense of that word. 550 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:18,799 Speaker 1: So where can they find out more? 551 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 3: And just one more thought, Yes, you know it's I 552 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 3: am here for a purpose, but my work isn't getting 553 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:33,799 Speaker 3: me into heaven. That's right, that it's my connection with 554 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 3: Jesus that is getting me into heaven. So you stop 555 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 3: having to work so hard. I think that is so 556 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:52,440 Speaker 3: important to hold on to. How we are saved is 557 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 3: our belief in Jesus. It's not our belief and our 558 00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:00,279 Speaker 3: ability to do more, but we want to do more 559 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:04,320 Speaker 3: because we're here for a purpose. That's right, but that's 560 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 3: not the ticket. I think that's comforting. Yes for the 561 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,839 Speaker 3: doers like me, Yes, yes, do more. That's right, that's right. 562 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,320 Speaker 3: And it's like I do more because I love more, 563 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 3: not because if I don't do more, bad things are 564 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 3: going to happen. I think that's absolutely so be able 565 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:30,720 Speaker 3: to learn about them and whole four am and hole for. 566 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,880 Speaker 4: H O l E W h O l E hyphen 567 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 4: for dot com and that can follow me on Instagram, 568 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 4: TikTok of all places. 569 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 2: Doc, you're a blessing again. Thank you for just your 570 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:50,239 Speaker 2: wealth of wisdom and knowledge experience. Thanks for even clarifying 571 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 2: there for some of our audience that the beautiful thing 572 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,279 Speaker 2: about Christianity and what we believe about our God, the 573 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 2: truth about our God is that he doesn't make us 574 00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 2: climb the ladder. We don't have to work our way 575 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 2: to heaven, but that he loved us so much that 576 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:03,839 Speaker 2: he sent his son to sending that ladder for us 577 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:05,719 Speaker 2: to meet us in the midst of our depravity in 578 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,240 Speaker 2: the midst of our humanity, so that way we wouldn't 579 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,279 Speaker 2: be defined by our scars, but we're defined by his 580 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 2: and that's a beautiful thing when we recognize that. It 581 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,719 Speaker 2: brings that sense of healing, and it makes us want 582 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,880 Speaker 2: to pursue the healthy life because then we have a mission, 583 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:20,439 Speaker 2: We have a purpose, and I want to be here 584 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 2: for as long as God would have me too, to 585 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:26,439 Speaker 2: fulfill that very thing. So doctor Daniel aman On behalf 586 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 2: of my dad, doctor Tim Clinton, myself, aacc our whole 587 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 2: family here. 588 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 1: We love you, we appreciate you. 589 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 3: Thanks for joining me today. 590 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,960 Speaker 2: Thanksrect so our entire audience a build different. Thank you 591 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,320 Speaker 2: guys for tuning in. I hope and pray that you 592 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,799 Speaker 2: would take some of those practical tips and strategies that 593 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 2: doctor Amon gave us, and that you would begin to 594 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,239 Speaker 2: apply them and integrate them into your life because. 595 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 1: You were made to live a healthy life. 596 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:51,279 Speaker 2: Your body, your mind, your soul, your brain, all of 597 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,440 Speaker 2: those things matter. Why because you matter and you have 598 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:58,479 Speaker 2: an incredible purpose right here right now. 599 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us. We love being a part 600 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 1: of your life.