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Speaker 4: All right, welcome back hour too. That Charlie Kirkshow is underway.

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Speaker 4: Excited about this next guest. He's a contrarian, he's a filmmaker,

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Speaker 3: We had him on when I think in the.

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Speaker 4: Campaign season quite a bit with Charlie head of twenty

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Speaker 4: give you hope, optimism, whether that's the midterms heading into

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty eight, about deportation. That's Larry Schweikert, the real

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Speaker 4: Larry schweiker again. He's an author, historian, PhD New York

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Speaker 4: Times number one best selling author, filmmaker, rock drummer, America's

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Speaker 3: Larry. Welcome back to the show.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, don't forget the rock drummer part.

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Speaker 2: That's really important.

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Speaker 5: A study came out today showing that bison are returning

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Speaker 6: Come wild bison.

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Speaker 6: They're avoiding the I'm just thinking of driving.

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Speaker 7: I don't want to man hitting a bison would probably

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Speaker 4: That sometimes as well, you know, like I sort of

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Speaker 7: deep deepness in my soul. If you fly over like

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Speaker 7: going to South Dakota and just seeing agriculture as conservation.

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Speaker 6: Especially because it keeps libs from moving there.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's true.

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Speaker 4: We'll open carry give keeps libs from moving there too.

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Speaker 4: Larry Yea, I love the way your mind works. You

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Speaker 4: You have a different way of seeing what's happening right

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Speaker 4: This is why you need to always take a step

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Speaker 4: stay calm. You got to focus on these things because

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Speaker 4: this is what Turning Point Action is doing. So you know, yeah,

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Speaker 4: there's all this handwringing. There's people that are freaking out

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Speaker 4: independent vote that will swing that state. But still, it's

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Speaker 4: we're putting up wins. We're registering voters in all of

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Speaker 5: They lie, of course they lie, yes, So give Usada,

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Speaker 5: Keshel and I follow a lot. New Hampshire has moved

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Speaker 5: everywhere you look, these numbers are marching steadily toward the Republicans.

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Speaker 5: Now you mentioned indies, and the Independents, of course are

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Speaker 5: as far as that goes.

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Speaker 4: Where do you what's your vibe on the independent? And

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Speaker 4: the conservative base has developed antibodies and immunities from the

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Speaker 4: Obama comes out with this statement talking about masked agents,

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Speaker 4: and they're rightly upset, and we need to our values

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Speaker 4: rightly are skeptical. They rightly push back independence. Where are

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Speaker 5: They are probably far more susceptible to these kinds of

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Speaker 2: Of what is the most important.

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Speaker 5: Issue to them, because usually it almost always comes down

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Speaker 5: Independence is not going to be immigration or what's happening

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Speaker 5: in Minnesota's going to be the economy is pretty good.

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Speaker 5: I'm not gonna mess that up.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: So the good news about Indies is they are not

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's a smart analysis there Larry, Folks,

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Speaker 4: Charlie Larry, I got two questions for you. You mentioned

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Speaker 5: Well, the constantly shifting redistricting numbers show that North Carolina

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Speaker 3: Safe?

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Speaker 5: I'm just going by Cook, and I think Cook is

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it.

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Speaker 4: You know, one of the things that I'll just continue

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Speaker 7: Blake, sorry that we struggle with the fact that there's

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Speaker 4: I think Larry or Lutnix should just call a new

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Speaker 3: Fight it.

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Speaker 6: We lose, but at least the challenges you'd have to

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Speaker 3: We'll find the funding. We'll pull it from somewhere.

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Speaker 5: I mean, could do a you know, a TikTok fundraiser

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Speaker 3: I would donate to it.

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Speaker 4: Would we would do We would do promotions on the

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Speaker 5: Last important thing about Minnesota. I want to make this point.

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Speaker 5: Seth Cashell has said twice that Minnesota would have voted

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Speaker 4: Well, and certainly the demographic replacement immigration with all the

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Speaker 4: Somali's is certainly playing a role there too. Larry Schweikert,

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Speaker 4: Next Up on the Megan Kelly Network. Mark, you have

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Speaker 4: a very You are one of the most i would

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Speaker 4: expecting you to give me bad news about the politics

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Speaker 4: of deportation, that we're losing the information battle, especially with

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Speaker 4: what's going on with this recent shooting.

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Speaker 3: Am I right? Is that where your head is at?

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Speaker 2: Well? It was true four hours ago.

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Speaker 8: It's clear that White House, after getting a lot of input,

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Speaker 2: It's a three pronged process.

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Speaker 8: One is to make Homans the face of this as

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Speaker 7: In Minneapolis, Yeah, Mark, so we can see that there's

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Speaker 8: Two weeks from now, two segments from now, we could

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Speaker 2: Chance to do that. And that's what we're in the

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Speaker 8: Asking me what the chances are, i'd say better than

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Speaker 2: I think he can do both those things. He was responsible.

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Speaker 8: And I think they're going to try to secure that now.

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Speaker 7: So the flip side of this is the President can

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Speaker 7: make the moves he wants. But there's also the Democrats.

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Speaker 7: We've heard Senator Schiff and others talk about, let's make

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Speaker 7: a giant defund the government showdown over whether Ice gets

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Speaker 7: any more funding, whether the border patrol gets any more funding.

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Speaker 7: Do you think Democrats will want this battle where they'll

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Speaker 7: escalate to massive war over the border patrol in Ice

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Speaker 7: or do you think they're likely to back down if

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Speaker 7: the President is giving them a bit of an off rent.

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Speaker 8: Well, last night they wanted to fight. Let's see with

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Speaker 8: the changes the President's making if they still want it.

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Speaker 8: And remember, as you know, ICE is funded. ICE was

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Speaker 8: funded by the Big Beautiful Bill. So this budget showdown

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Speaker 8: that the Democrats say they're willing to precipitate, even if

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Speaker 8: it leads to shutting down, the government is not going

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Speaker 8: to actually.

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Speaker 2: Get them what they want.

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Speaker 8: But the president should want some cooperation for the symbolism

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Speaker 8: and the optics and the politics, but also the substance.

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Speaker 8: So if Republicans have to give something to make the

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Speaker 8: mission work more effectively, they well.

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Speaker 2: They may want to do that.

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Speaker 8: And if that gets the Democrats to the table keep

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Speaker 8: there from being a shut down, that seems like a

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Speaker 8: win win. So I don't think it's impossible to avoid

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Speaker 8: a shut down, in part because, as I said, the

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Speaker 8: Democrats don't have the leverage they might because of ICE

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Speaker 8: is already funded.

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Speaker 4: So, Mark, I know you're reacting to this readout from

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Speaker 4: the Tim Waltz call that President Trump put out. I still,

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Speaker 4: you know, I'm incredulous that this would actually happen the

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Speaker 4: way that you're suggesting, that there would be actual cooperation

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Speaker 4: like we experienced in the Obama years. Right Obama, I

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Speaker 4: think is you know, listen, it's a good talking point

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Speaker 4: for us to porter in chief. What was really happening

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Speaker 4: there was that blue districts were blue municipalities were coordinating

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Speaker 4: with immigration enforcement. They were handing over criminals in jails,

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Speaker 4: in prisons when there was a detainer request. Is that

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Speaker 4: what you're suggesting is going to happen in Minneapolis, that

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Speaker 4: this could be the the compromise that's reached.

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Speaker 8: Well, cooperation between Governor Walts and Donald Trump is as

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Speaker 8: far far fetched and outlandish as a friendly Oval office

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Speaker 8: meeting between Mayor Mom, Donnie and the President. You know

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Speaker 8: that happened, dudes, right now. The level of cooperation between

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Speaker 8: them remains to be seen. But apparently they took that

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Speaker 8: meeting and made themselves texting buddies. One of the things

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Speaker 8: that Caroline said at the briefing and that the President's

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Speaker 8: talked about over the weekend is they want to have

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Speaker 8: Congress outlaw sanctuary cities. That's not going to happen, But

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Speaker 8: there is a middle ground between Walt's capitulation completely and

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Speaker 8: Walt's cooperating. And I think one of the big measures,

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Speaker 8: two big measures that I've heard both sides talk about

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Speaker 8: as possibilities. One is the local police should be helping here.

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Speaker 8: They shouldn't be just turning their heads the other way

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Speaker 8: and not showing up when there's activity on the streets

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Speaker 8: that they could help defuse. And then number two, you know,

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Speaker 8: it's a sanctuary city, but they can find a way

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Speaker 8: to make the process of deporting people who leave local

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Speaker 8: law enforcement control and then can be deported. They can

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Speaker 8: make that easier. They don't have to completely turn their

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Speaker 8: heads away from that. And I think if those two

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Speaker 8: things are done, that would allow Ice and Border Patrol

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Speaker 8: to make their footprint in the city smaller. And this

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Speaker 8: is THEE George Floyd City. This is a very blue city.

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Speaker 8: The people who are protesting have not quite become professionals yet,

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Speaker 8: but they're semi pro But I think if those two

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Speaker 8: things happened and the footprint decreased, people could go back

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Speaker 8: to being Minnesotan's rather than warriors for a protesting a

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Speaker 8: lawful and proved federal law enforcement activity.

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Speaker 4: And Mark, I love where your HEA's at. I mean,

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Speaker 4: all this makes sense, but nothing makes sense when you're

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Speaker 4: dealing with these radical leftists.

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Speaker 3: I mean, they.

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Speaker 7: Feel very amped up to me. I just I can't help,

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Speaker 7: but wonder if they Democrats might want to back off.

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Speaker 7: But I see, yeah, I can see the people on

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Speaker 7: where going on. You can see the people on TikTok,

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Speaker 7: on Blue Sky. They're they're saying, like, we need to

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Speaker 7: shoot Ice office.

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Speaker 3: So let's let's game this out here. Mark.

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Speaker 4: So they're winning currently as of four hours ago, the

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Speaker 4: information war right. I saw it on Twitter x all weekend.

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Speaker 4: I mean, the shooting unleashes them. They win when bad

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Speaker 4: things happen because Ice are getting confronted in the streets,

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Speaker 4: somebody gets shot, somebody gets killed. That's actually a win

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Speaker 4: for them. So why would they want to back down

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Speaker 4: when this tactic is seemingly working. Why would Governor Waltz

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Speaker 4: hand any cooperation or any sort of political win to

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Speaker 4: President Trump.

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Speaker 8: There are some who wouldn't want to, but I believe,

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Speaker 8: having spent a lot of time in the Twin Cities,

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Speaker 8: I believe that the majority of those people would like normalcy.

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Speaker 8: The majority of the city, regardless of their of an

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Speaker 8: individual's politics, and the suburbs would like the.

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Speaker 2: Chaos to end.

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Speaker 8: And like I said, this is a harder city to

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Speaker 8: calm down. That's why this has happened. They've got to

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Speaker 8: poste George Floyd mentality. The liberals there don't like the President,

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Speaker 8: but if the footprint gets reduced, you just you have

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Speaker 8: to realize what it's like for them now to have

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Speaker 8: a federal force on the ground larger than their police

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Speaker 8: force by a lot. So will all the people on

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Speaker 8: that signal chat want to stand down? No, but I

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Speaker 8: believe that most of the electives will, including the governor

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Speaker 8: and the mayor, and I believe they'll have a story

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Speaker 8: to tell, which is the President can say we won

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Speaker 8: because we got local cooperation and we've already arrested a

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Speaker 8: lot of people. And the Democrats can say we won

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Speaker 8: because they've really duce.

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Speaker 2: The federal footprint here.

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Speaker 8: And I think that's the recipe to calm this down

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Speaker 8: and to get all but the most professional protesters to

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Speaker 8: stand down.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Well, and again we talk about where this started. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: it started with Joe Biden letting in millions of illegals.

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Speaker 4: That's obviously the starting point originally, but also there's this

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Speaker 4: fraud story, and you've got the Somali fraud rings that

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Speaker 4: are bilking tax payers and sending the money who knows

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Speaker 4: where that you know, millions and millions of dollars going

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Speaker 4: through MSP right, So you know, I don't know. I'm

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Speaker 4: sitting here going like, yeah, I would like to win

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Speaker 4: the information war. I think the base is completely committed

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Speaker 4: to this. I think we're building up immunities to the

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Speaker 4: the rest of the year here, but you know, everything

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Speaker 3: You're gonna get the these moderates.

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Speaker 4: We're seeing Lisa Murkowski, you're seeing Governor Stitt already sort

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Speaker 4: see a messaging pivot from the White House. But there

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Speaker 3: Need to do? In your opinion?

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Speaker 4: You said, you said, take this off the front page

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Speaker 4: you if you were in the room, what would you

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Speaker 2: Well, a couple things.

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Speaker 8: First of all, I think Governor Stitt would laugh if

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Speaker 8: he said he was a moderate governor of Oklahoma. I've

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Speaker 8: met Governor stip By the way, you think he's a

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's By the way, I never will trust Mark,

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Speaker 4: call me a cinec. I will never trust a governor

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Speaker 4: or a Senator that's already said I'm I'm you know,

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Speaker 4: I'm not running again or you know, listen, you never

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Speaker 4: know what kind of And I'm not accusing Governor Stid

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Speaker 4: of this, but I've seen it too many times. You know,

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Speaker 4: what gig are they angling for next? What rubber Chicken did?

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Speaker 4: Or do they want to get invited to next? That's

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Speaker 4: all I'll say.

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Speaker 8: For all I know he wants to be Abby Abby

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Speaker 8: Phillips main substitute host. Okay, So again I say this

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Speaker 8: with respect. I'm not a political analyst or a political reporter.

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Speaker 8: I'm an American analyst or American reporter. And I think

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Speaker 8: to just relentlessly focus on the midterms. Again, I say

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Speaker 8: with respect is not the right thing for the country.

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Speaker 8: Even in an election year. The president's job is to

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Speaker 8: do is to do well in the midterms by doing

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Speaker 8: good things for the American people. Same with Congress, same

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Speaker 8: with Governor Waltz. So the focus should not be, I

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Speaker 8: think on sort of the tactics and the fundraising, at

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Speaker 8: least not yet. This is hurting the president's poll numbers,

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Speaker 8: it's hurting Maga because people don't like what they're seeing,

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Speaker 8: and they don't like what they're seeing because it rubs

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Speaker 8: what Americas should be. People don't want to see government

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Speaker 8: officials telling bald faced lies that are contradicted by what

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Speaker 8: they can see with their own eyes. They don't want

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Speaker 8: to see American citizens shot on the street by government officials.

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Speaker 8: And they don't don't want to see an enforcement operation

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Speaker 8: that creates chaos when the whole point of this is

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Speaker 8: to create more order and less chaos. Okay, So those

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Speaker 8: are all things that I think the President can be

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Speaker 8: by working on them. If he does that, if he

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Speaker 8: gets the focus on the extraordinary achievement of shutting down

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Speaker 8: the border and the achievement of going into these cities

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Speaker 8: with federal officials and taking out the bad ombres, taking

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Speaker 8: out the people who are dangerous to the community, and

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Speaker 8: then deporting others as a bandwidth allows, then I think

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Speaker 8: one of the great promises made promises kept will be

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Speaker 8: the focus of a lot of voters in the midterms.

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Speaker 8: This is not just mag Democrats, and this is not

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Speaker 8: just moderate Democrats. I talked to Republicans for the last

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Speaker 8: seventy two hours, including some major supporters of the president,

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Speaker 8: who don't want to see this continue the way it's

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Speaker 8: been going.

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Speaker 2: Again.

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Speaker 8: They support the President's immigration agenda, they just don't want

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Speaker 8: to see this, And I think if the President can

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Speaker 8: work that out, to phasize the parts of this that

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Speaker 8: have worked and can continue to work, and mitigate the

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Speaker 8: prospect of American citizens being shot by federal officers, I

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Speaker 8: think that's that people will give him the party credit

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Speaker 8: for making a mid course correction.

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Speaker 7: So, Mark, there's obviously, despite your advice, there is a

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Speaker 7: lot of fixation on the midterms, and there's definitely on

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Speaker 7: the right. I've seen this sort of all or nothing

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Speaker 7: attitude that if the midterms are bad, it's it's all

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Speaker 7: over for.

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Speaker 6: The administration or something.

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Speaker 7: But it strikes me, as you noted, they already funded ice,

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Speaker 7: for example, for a long time with a big, beautiful bill.

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Speaker 7: The president has obviously a lot of power to do

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Speaker 7: things even if he doesn't control Congress. How much do

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Speaker 7: you think it actually matters for President Trump's agenda that

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Speaker 7: he control Congress, And what do you think is likely

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Speaker 7: to happen if he loses it, Are we actually likely

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Speaker 7: to see, for example, the impeachment every week that some

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Speaker 7: people have talked about. And if they do impeach Trump

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Speaker 7: every week, does that actually matter?

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Speaker 8: Well's not just impeaching, right, it's investigator him. There's one

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Speaker 8: hundred things they'd like to have subpoena power to investigate

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Speaker 8: and to call members of the administration up to Capitol

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Speaker 8: Hill to testify. All those things are not just a

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Speaker 8: distraction and a bandwidth suck, but they can create a

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Speaker 8: lot of news because the media would love to see

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Speaker 8: a fourteen day investigation into the Trump family's crypto holdings

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Speaker 8: or an investigation into policy making around Ice. So it

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Speaker 8: matters for that. It also matters if the president wants

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Speaker 8: to pass anything. The president can do a lot by

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Speaker 8: executive action, but it's there's some things like the budget

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Speaker 8: that Congress has to do. And I'm a big believer

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Speaker 8: that the president does lose the House, he can turn

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Speaker 8: that into a virtue by starting to pass some things

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Speaker 8: in a bipartisan way that the current balance of power would.

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Speaker 2: Let him do.

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Speaker 8: Now, that won't be popular with everyone in Maggot because

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Speaker 8: it'll mean the president making deal with aikem Jeffries. But

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Speaker 8: the alternative is perhaps getting nothing done because they don't

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Speaker 8: have sixty votes in the Senate. I think that that

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Speaker 8: right now, the present chances of keeping the House are underrated.

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Speaker 8: It's not the most likely outcompany, it's underrated, and the

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Speaker 8: Senate is still better than even Stays to stay Republican.

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Speaker 8: So he needs to again, the best thing he can

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Speaker 8: do to make sure that he's got the best possible

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Speaker 8: chance to keep the majority is to do things the

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Speaker 8: American people like, to do things that are popular, and

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Speaker 8: to let Republicans talk about those things. And if he

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Speaker 8: does that, you know, it won't take care of itself,

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Speaker 8: but it will be the biggest down payment he could

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Speaker 8: make on success in the midterms.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think you're right, Mark. You know, I'm

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Speaker 4: willing to concede the fact. Something we've talked about on

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Speaker 4: this show is that, you know, the whole masking of

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Speaker 4: ICE agents, it strikes I guess the majority of Americans

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Speaker 4: is Unamerican, but they are getting docked and we do

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Speaker 4: have the sanctuary city issues where they're not, you know,

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Speaker 4: willing to cooperate like they did with Obama, like they

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Speaker 4: did with Clinton. And it's TDS on the local level.

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Speaker 4: I mean, if there is some sort of detent that's

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Speaker 4: possible where they actually you know, La Portland, Minneapolis, New

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Speaker 4: York are willing to say, hey, smaller footprint, but will

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Speaker 4: cooperate at the local level, will hand over detention.

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Speaker 3: Requests of illegals. I think that'd be a huge win

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Speaker 3: for the country.

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Speaker 4: And by the way, it would be safer for agents

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Speaker 4: and cities and illegals. If you care about the immigrants,

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Speaker 4: it would be safer.

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Speaker 2: I agree.

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Speaker 8: I agree you need you need I totally agree you

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Speaker 8: need rational policies. And you know, we haven't talked about

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Speaker 8: these guys may have talked about it earlier in the show.

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Speaker 8: I was doing other stuff, so I wasn't able to listen.

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Speaker 8: You know, to be so twisted to have every administration

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Speaker 8: official out on Sunday saying if you show up with

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Speaker 8: a gun, you're a threat, that is that is a

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Speaker 8: twisting of the Second Amendment. It's a twisting of the

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Speaker 8: MAGA attitude. It's the Second Amendment. And and so you've

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Speaker 8: got to get policies that you can defend. And they

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Speaker 8: can defend the mission here, they can defend what they

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Speaker 8: want to do with deportations. They can't defend saying a

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Speaker 8: guy who shows up with a gun is a threat automatically.

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Speaker 8: They can't defend claiming the guys of domestic terrorists without

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Speaker 8: any evidence. I agree, and that's why you're seeing Tom

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Speaker 8: Homans who says, let's have an investigation go in. Tom

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Speaker 8: Holmes isn't going to say I'm quite sure anyone who

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Speaker 8: shows up with a gun is a threat.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 4: I think we bungled the messaging right at the jump.

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Speaker 4: I think that's fair and we can do better and

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Speaker 4: we will. Mark Alprin, thank.

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Speaker 3: You so much.

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Speaker 2: Thank you guys, good to see you.

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Speaker 3: For more on many of these stories and news you

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Speaker 3: can trust, go to Charliekirk dot com