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Speaker 2: Hey Froend, Heather Creek Moore Here, I'm glad you're listening

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Speaker 2: Hope to see there, Nicole Suvar, thank you for being

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Speaker 2: on the Compared to You podcast today.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it's so good to be here. Heather.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm excited to talk to you because you are

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Speaker 2: you have a ministry you are talking about. You're writing

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Speaker 2: about this topic that I just don't know anyone who

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Speaker 2: is exempt from thinking about. And that's anxiety, worry, all

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Speaker 2: the things that we have, the list of things we

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Speaker 2: have to feel anxious about every day. And I'm excited

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Speaker 2: for us to just dig in because I know you

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Speaker 2: must have a story, Nicole, Like you don't write about

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Speaker 2: this stuff without having a story.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so can.

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Speaker 2: You tell us what led you to a place where

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Speaker 2: you wanted to do this kind of work and what's

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Speaker 2: your what's your story?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? So, yeah, my ministry is about mental wellness, is

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Speaker 3: specifically anxiety and exploring God's.

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Speaker 1: Design for mental wellness, okay, versus what the world has

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Speaker 3: You could probably say I'm an expert on it, just because,

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Speaker 3: like an experts decided, someone who has at least ten

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Speaker 3: thousand hours doing whatever the thing is. I have at

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Speaker 3: I was like eight years old, having panic attacks in

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Speaker 3: And so even though like my stomach's up in knots,

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Speaker 1: Just like, don't worry about it. It's not that big

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Speaker 3: it's just we didn't have that language back in the nineties.

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Speaker 3: And also I wasn't communicating the best just because I

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Speaker 3: And so I took on another burden of not only

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Speaker 3: was diagnosed with generalized anxiety disorder as well as severe

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Speaker 1: And started on That was when I finally started on

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Speaker 3: To healing and as I'm learning more about these diagnoses

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Speaker 3: when I was open and talking about it with others,

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Speaker 3: realize that it's okay to struggle with anxiety, like this

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Speaker 3: We're gonna experience it, but it's what we do with it,

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Speaker 2: But at forty I got my tonsils out because I

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Speaker 2: now for pandas. If you're familiar with pianidas, yes, but

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Speaker 2: And so she's like, we could just try it. It

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Speaker 2: younger people, I think are more versed in that language.

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Speaker 3: Like it's okay to be concerned about things. I think

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Speaker 3: They might keep you from going places that you would

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Speaker 2: focused on image. Right, It's what will other people think

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Speaker 3: to find the things in our lives that we can control.

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Speaker 1: And what is one thing that we can control? We

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Speaker 3: There is this feeling that we get that finally, I

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Speaker 1: Yeah? No, the peace was never ours to make.

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Speaker 1: So that part is that's.

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Speaker 3: The stewardship that He has asked of us, like what

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Speaker 3: is what is He given in our lives that we

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Speaker 3: steward and you steward with open hands. But then after

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Speaker 3: the fall has happened, we've twisted stewardship into control and

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Speaker 3: we've start taken it all and believe that we are

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Speaker 3: center of the provision of the outcomes.

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Speaker 2: Spot on, spot on. Yeah. I mean we talk about

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Speaker 2: that a lot. You know that the stewardship message as

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Speaker 2: it pertains to take care of your body, I think

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Speaker 2: has been super twisted in Christian Yester, Yeah, by the church. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 2: I love the church, husband's and pastor, but we have

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Speaker 2: taken what it means to steward and exactly what you

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Speaker 2: just said, we've we've made that about the control. When

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Speaker 2: that's I think why eating disorders are an epidemic, a

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Speaker 2: silent epidem perhaps inside the church, because we congratulate the

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Speaker 2: woman who can go a day without eating for how

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Speaker 2: much quote unquote self control she has and how well

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Speaker 2: So I really appreciate you, yeah, breaking that down and

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Speaker 2: you know, to just circle back it's the peace that

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Speaker 2: we're all looking for, right, that's what we all desire.

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Speaker 2: We just want to make the buzz and the noise

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Speaker 2: and the aha go away. We're looking for that piece

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Speaker 2: and we can't. We can't make it happen on our own,

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Speaker 2: can we.

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Speaker 1: We can't make it happen. And you are not going

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Speaker 1: to find it anywhere in the world.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't come when you wear a certain size,

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Speaker 2: or get a certain house, or marry a certain person,

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Speaker 2: or have a certain number of children, or have this children,

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Speaker 2: be a certain kind of successful or any of the

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Speaker 2: things that the world promises us. Yeah. Oh, Nicole, I

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Speaker 2: am so excited about your book. There's a lot of

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Speaker 2: themes in it that are similar to things I'm writing

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Speaker 2: about right now. My book won't be out for a year,

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Speaker 2: so you guys need to go read this book todays,

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Speaker 2: tell us the name one one more time because I

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Speaker 2: just love it, and then talk to us about where

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Speaker 2: we can connect with you.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I don't have to hold it all together, cultivating

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Speaker 3: the Piece of Eden when feeling overwhelmed, And you can

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Speaker 3: find me on my website Live with intent dot org

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Speaker 3: and there's a tab on there for books All of

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Speaker 3: my books are on there, and my latest one being

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Speaker 3: this one.

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Speaker 1: I'm also on Instagram.

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Speaker 3: I post a few times a week, generally something that

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Speaker 3: has to do with God's design for mental wellness and

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Speaker 3: encouragement to live in Him, cultivate His goodness instead of

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Speaker 3: what the world has. And you can find me at

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Speaker 3: Nicole Jsuvar over there too.

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Speaker 2: Awesome, and I'll make sure we've got links to all

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Speaker 2: of that in the show notes. Well, Nicole, thank you

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Speaker 2: so much for being on the podcast today.

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Speaker 1: This has been so good. Heather, thank you.

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